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129. Joshua N. Haldeman - Elon Musk's Apartheid-Loving Grandfather · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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  Speaker 1: Hello, delicious friends, and welcome to Who Did What Now?
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  Speaker 1: pick up what is a massive box because I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: from my wish list arrived actually, and it really really
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  Speaker 1: if anything has arrived for me, because there's it's kind
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  Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. But it's there and it's nice.
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  Speaker 1: And I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, Katie, quit
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  Speaker 1: your jibber jabba in fact me, in fact you I will.
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  Speaker 1: But first we've got to get our source on. Our
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  Speaker 1: sources are Elon Musk's anti Semitic, apartheid loving grandfather by
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  Speaker 1: Joshua Benton, Social Discredit, anti Emotism, social credit, and the
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  Speaker 1: Jewish Response by Janine Stingle. The World according to Elon
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  Speaker 1: Musk's Grandfather by Jill Lapore, Joshua N. Haldeman DC. The
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  Speaker 1: Canadian Years nineteen twenty six to nineteen fifty by Scott
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  Speaker 1: Haldeman and Joseph C. Keating, How the roots of the
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  Speaker 1: Papal Mafia extend to Aparthe't South Africa by Chris mcgreel,
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  Speaker 1: The International Conspiracy to establish a world dictatorship and the
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  Speaker 1: Menace to South Africa by Joshua N. Haldeman. And of
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  Speaker 1: course we have our old favourites, History dot com and
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  Speaker 1: biography dot com. iOS it in coomfortably good. Then let's begin.
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  Speaker 1: We are currently in February at time of recording, which
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  Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, over in the
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  Speaker 1: and scream about the terrible actions performed by other white people,
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  Speaker 1: I will be out carroning the Karens and I hope
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  Speaker 1: you're here for it. So naturally, with the current political
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  Speaker 1: climate going on and the man who went from space
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  Speaker 1: race to space racist super quick to anyone not paying attention,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, why not go back into this history a
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  Speaker 1: wee bit and maybe have a weight discussion and tell
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  Speaker 1: you all about Elon Musk's apartheid loving grandfather. You could
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  Speaker 1: be forgiven for assuming that our story would start in
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  Speaker 1: South Africa, because that's all we hear you know family
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  Speaker 1: from South Africa, but our story actually starts in a
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  Speaker 1: log cabin in Minnesota. On the twenty fifth of November
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  Speaker 1: nineteen o two. Elon Musk's maternal grandfather, Joshua and Norman Haldman,
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  Speaker 1: was born in a log cabin in Peacot Lake, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: He was the only son of John Elon Haldeman that's
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  Speaker 1: where the Elon name comes from, and Almida May Haldeman.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Joshua, when he was only two years old,
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  Speaker 1: his father John was diagnosed with diabetes, which at the
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  Speaker 1: time was a death sentence because back in nineteen oh two,
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  Speaker 1: insulin was not an option. I don't even think it
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  Speaker 1: became like a fully fledged diabetic treatment until like the
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  Speaker 1: nineteen twenties, and like, up until then, you basically had
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  Speaker 1: two arguing sides about how to treat diabetes. Like it
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  Speaker 1: was a death sentence. You were not going to survive
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  Speaker 1: very long, and you kind of ended up in two camps,
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  Speaker 1: and they were both sort of dietary. It was maintained
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  Speaker 1: with diet, and there were still some forms of diabetes
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  Speaker 1: which are mainly controlled by diet, but back in the
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  Speaker 1: day it was mainly controlled with extreme diet and because
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  Speaker 1: it's the past, peates lots and lots civil piates. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: let's face it, people were always taking like cocaine and heroin,
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  Speaker 1: and for this it was morphine. Morphine was the drug
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  Speaker 1: of choice, and it really either made you like over
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  Speaker 1: eight and then die or then not really eat enough
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  Speaker 1: and then die. Like back in the day, it was
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  Speaker 1: fairly common for people with diabetes to just starve to death,
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  Speaker 1: like they would just starve, And diabetes is one of
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  Speaker 1: those conditions that for a very very long time people
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  Speaker 1: just didn't understand what was happening with it, like they
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  Speaker 1: didn't grasp it specifically. And maybe I should do an
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  Speaker 1: episode specifically on diseases like little bonus ones on the
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  Speaker 1: Patreon maybe, but that's for another day. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: that another time. Back to this sidebar, people often died
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  Speaker 1: within months of being diagnosed, and what the doctors were suggesting,
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  Speaker 1: John's wife wasn't feeling. She wasn't really into it, and
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  Speaker 1: she kind of wasn't too into the whole traditional medicine scenario,
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  Speaker 1: especially living in rural Minnesota, and like didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: see her husband suffer. So Almida Jane Haldeman. I called
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  Speaker 1: her May earlier, but Almida Jane Haldeman, she was like,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting the heck at a dodge. She is just
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  Speaker 1: not feeling traditional medicine at all. She says, fuck this
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  Speaker 1: for a game of soldiers and goes to chiropractic school
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  Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. She gets her Doctorate of Chiropractic certificate in
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  Speaker 1: like a couple of months, which, I mean, we've all
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  Speaker 1: spoken about how in the Victorian era it took a
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  Speaker 1: very short time to become a medical professional. So I
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  Speaker 1: feel like this is part of the par or, like
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  Speaker 1: it's the nineteen hundreds. We're good, you know. And so
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  Speaker 1: she's like, great, let's get out of here, and they
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  Speaker 1: move up to Saskatchewan and Canada, where Amilda Haldeman became
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  Speaker 1: the very first, the actual first chiropractor in all of Canada,
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  Speaker 1: like the first Canadian chiropractor, like not even first female chiropractor,
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  Speaker 1: like she was the very first one at all. Which
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  Speaker 1: you know what, Amida that I say, hats off to you,
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  Speaker 1: because that's pretty cool. Granted, at the time, in chiropractic practices,
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  Speaker 1: well very much alternative. This was very alternative at the
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  Speaker 1: time because one it was like a decade. If that
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  Speaker 1: old in two, it was still very much linked to
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  Speaker 1: pseudoscience and spiritualism, because, like the guy who came up
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  Speaker 1: with at Dade Palmer, he claims that he discovered the
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  Speaker 1: practice by going to the other side, like the spiritual realm,
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  Speaker 1: he passed through the veil, and it taught him chiro
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  Speaker 1: practic techniques allegedly, so like as far as medical practices,
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  Speaker 1: though this is very much hippy dippy essential oils of
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  Speaker 1: the era. That being said, she must have been doing
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  Speaker 1: something right because John, her husband, when most people with
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  Speaker 1: diabetes died within a couple months, he lived for another
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  Speaker 1: four years. But life mevs on and so does Almida,
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  Speaker 1: and she remarries a rancher named Hazeltine Wilson. I love
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  Speaker 1: all timy names and Almida she's a busy lady. She
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  Speaker 1: has many fingers, many pies. She's a chiropractice. She sets
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  Speaker 1: up a restaurant and also becomes a teacher at a
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  Speaker 1: local school. I'm getting newer divergent vibes from Almida here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm definitely feeling it. And Joshua, he grows up on
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  Speaker 1: his step fellow's ranch in rural Canada, where he does
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  Speaker 1: manly ranching things. He rides horses. He doesn't go to
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  Speaker 1: the doctor because he doesn't believe in traditional medicine. After
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  Speaker 1: years of doing man like Canadian ranching stuff, he does
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  Speaker 1: go to school, and he goes to and I shit
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  Speaker 1: you not nine separate sort of colleges and universities, and
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  Speaker 1: there was no record of this man, Joshua Norman Haldeman,
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  Speaker 1: of completing any of them. Like, so he went to
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  Speaker 1: get educated and then did not complete anything. It seems
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  Speaker 1: there was no record of him graduating anywhere at all
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  Speaker 1: from any of these schools, not a one. And I
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  Speaker 1: know sometimes like documents in the past, can be difficult
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  Speaker 1: to find, but the fact that there isn't one out
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  Speaker 1: of nine highly suspicious if he did graduate. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna go with nah. I'm going to assume that he
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  Speaker 1: just didn't like how things were running there, because like
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  Speaker 1: in later interviews in Like Day Traveler and things like that,
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  Speaker 1: he always talks about how he grew up on a
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  Speaker 1: ranch and was very self reliant and like a manly
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  Speaker 1: man who did things for himself. But usually those kind
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  Speaker 1: of men aren't good at taking direction from other people.
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  Speaker 1: So I have my suspicions. So yeah, he ends up
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  Speaker 1: when he's like twenty, like nineteen twenty, like he's having
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  Speaker 1: vision issues. He's having problems with his eyes. But instead
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  Speaker 1: of going to I don't know, an optomologist or an optometrist,
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  Speaker 1: he's like, no, none of those traditional doctrine for me,
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  Speaker 1: And so he travels to Davenport, Iowa, where he travels
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  Speaker 1: to get extreme chiropractic treatment for his eyes. So they
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  Speaker 1: believed that a lot of the issues in the body
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  Speaker 1: could be resolved by like aligning the vertebrae and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. It's kind of like reflexology. They're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: if I rub your toe this way, you won't have
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  Speaker 1: digestive problems anymore. Fit massage is cure diarrhea. You've heard
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  Speaker 1: it your first lads. Joshua Haldman reminds me of the
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  Speaker 1: guy in Monty Python who builds swamp castle less that
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  Speaker 1: I was daff to build my castle on the swamp,
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  Speaker 1: but I built it all the same. It sunk, and
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  Speaker 1: I built a second castle on it fell into the swamp,
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  Speaker 1: and the third castle it burned down, fell over. Then
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  Speaker 1: s I came to the swamp. But the fourth one,
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  Speaker 1: the fourth one it stayed. And that's what this is
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  Speaker 1: like with his nine musiciacilities and colleges. Because Joshua Haldeman
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  Speaker 1: this is his fourth swamp castle. He goes to the
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  Speaker 1: chiropractic school, studies for four whole years and graduates in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen twenty six as a Doctor of Chiropractic And after
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  Speaker 1: four years of treatment in study, Joshua claims that he
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  Speaker 1: does not need optical aids of any kind and thanks
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  Speaker 1: to special extreme chiropractic treatment from his lifelong friend bj Palmer,
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  Speaker 1: chiropractor and possible committeer of patricide. But anyway, Joshua claimed
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  Speaker 1: that for the next twenty years he will not require
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  Speaker 1: any optical aids, no glasses, spectacles, monocles, none of that jazz.
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  Speaker 1: He's like got perfect eyes thanks to his buddy Bjay.
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  Speaker 1: After Joshua graduates, however, he does not go into the
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  Speaker 1: chiropractic field. Instead, he returns to ranching. Unfortunately for Joshua,
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  Speaker 1: this was not exactly the most opportune moment in which
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  Speaker 1: to return to farming. You see nineteen twenty nine, the
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  Speaker 1: stock market crashes and also there is a ten year
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  Speaker 1: drought in Saskatchewan, Canada. The drought was bad enough because
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  Speaker 1: you're already struggling to farm, you're not getting the same
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  Speaker 1: returns on your labor. But they're in the midst of
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  Speaker 1: the depression and people are struggling. Finances are down, and
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  Speaker 1: the banks start calling in their loans, especially on farming equipment,
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  Speaker 1: and so Joshua here cannot keep up with the repayments.
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  Speaker 1: And so just like a lot of his neighbors who
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  Speaker 1: were also leasing farming equipment and could not keep up
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  Speaker 1: with the payments. But the banks ends up losing his farm,
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  Speaker 1: the ranch gone, just like a bunch of people he knew.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a turning point for Joshua because this
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  Speaker 1: is a moment in his life where like a switch
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  Speaker 1: is flicked and he decides that he hates banks and
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  Speaker 1: hates the government. Now heating banks. I get it, I
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  Speaker 1: get it. We bail them out. They've done stupid shit
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  Speaker 1: for so many years, and yet here we are. But
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  Speaker 1: although for Joshua it was less about the banks being
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  Speaker 1: financial institutions and more about who was running the banks,
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  Speaker 1: very much scapegoat poisonous mushroom scenario. And Joshuay he's lost
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  Speaker 1: his farm, what is he going to do? A man
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  Speaker 1: who hates government, decides to get into politics. And here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing. The conditions in this area of Canada are
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  Speaker 1: fucking dire. Like people are one hundred percent struggling. And
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  Speaker 1: so I can understand when people are struggling to feed
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  Speaker 1: their children and to get through the day and pay
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  Speaker 1: for their necessary medicine cough, that they end up looking
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  Speaker 1: towards more radical political movements that they think are going
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  Speaker 1: to ensure the betterment of their lives. And so Haldeman
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  Speaker 1: again no farm, nothing to do, very pissed off at
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  Speaker 1: the government and banks and the bankers, bureaucrats, etc. He
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  Speaker 1: ends up joining several political movements. It first, he's very
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  Speaker 1: much on the left, the Cooperative Common Moealth Foundation. This
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  Speaker 1: was like an amalgamation of various labor, farmer and socialist
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  Speaker 1: groups which is basically a farmer's co op, which expected
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  Speaker 1: the government to provide more relief and to alleviate the
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  Speaker 1: pressure for people suffering in these areas in Canada, specifically
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  Speaker 1: farmers and farming communities. And by the mid nineteen thirties
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  Speaker 1: he becomes a big supporter of this. He even becomes
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  Speaker 1: the local party chairman. All the while Joshua here is
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  Speaker 1: surviving off of a government relief program. So just to
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  Speaker 1: confirm for everybody, just to make sure we're all on
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  Speaker 1: the same page here, Joshua Norman Haldeman is currently complaining
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  Speaker 1: about socialism, bureaucracy, the government while being part of political
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  Speaker 1: party and also in receipt of government subsidies. We are
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  Speaker 1: clear great this being a time where employment is at
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  Speaker 1: an all time low, you kind of take the jobs
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  Speaker 1: that you're given. And Joshua's traveling around and he takes
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of odd jobs. He does a lot of
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  Speaker 1: like cowboy stuff, so he's like herding cattle, he's doing ranching,
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  Speaker 1: he performs in rodeos, and also construction here what was
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  Speaker 1: construction because they're still building things, so there's a job.
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  Speaker 1: He is quite literally living the nineteen thirties, like depression
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  Speaker 1: era hobo living like that is his life. He's jumping
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  Speaker 1: on freight trains. He's living in I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: call it like a shanty town, but like the little
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  Speaker 1: tent towns, like that's the life he's living. Meanwhile, he's
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  Speaker 1: got a wife back home, like his family is back
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  Speaker 1: home and he's just not going near them. Like I
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  Speaker 1: think eleven years they're married in total. But yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: just like off doing this and she's back in Saskatchewan,
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  Speaker 1: and so he's traveling around doing this all the while.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, because I think this is just funny,
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  Speaker 1: he hates Coca Cola because at this point coca cola
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  Speaker 1: still had cocaine in it, so it was made with cola, nuts, cocaine,
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  Speaker 1: something else. I don't remember the rest, but like other
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  Speaker 1: things that, I've got a whole episode in Coca Cola.
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  Speaker 1: It's like episode three or four. Go back and listen
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  Speaker 1: or don't. It's actually shockingly bad audio wise, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna record that again. But anyway, hates coca cola
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  Speaker 1: because there's cocaine in it, and so he believes people
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  Speaker 1: are being overly medicated with coca cola and that that's
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  Speaker 1: an issue because again he doesn't believe in medicine, like
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing. But yeah, he's out doing his hobo
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  Speaker 1: life and eventually comes back to Saskatchewan, and yeah, their
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  Speaker 1: marriage doesn't stick. I think they cite financial difficulties as
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  Speaker 1: the reason for divorce, which during the nineteen thirties everyone's lit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that seems fair, that seems fair. I mean you can't
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  Speaker 1: fault her though eleven years of this dealing with him
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  Speaker 1: hobo and around Canada, only for him to come back,
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  Speaker 1: start a debate society and then get a divorce. Like cool,
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  Speaker 1: She's like cool, thanks adio. Somego bye bye. In nineteen
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  Speaker 1: thirty six, he ends up in Regina, the place, not
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  Speaker 1: the person, just to clarify, and he becomes enamored with
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  Speaker 1: a new political ideology, technocracy. What is technocracy, Katie, Well,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked, because I'll tell you so. You
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: know how, democracy is a system of government that ideally
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: is by the people for the people, Like it is
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: a rule which should be done by majority vote. People
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: that make the rules and enforce the rules should be elected,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Like that's democracy. People should have their say majority rules.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Now a technocracy is saying that we don't need that
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: because that's emotional. We shouldn't be ruled like that. Everything
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: should be clinical and should be led by engineers. And
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: later on they add scientists to that, but initially, at
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: this point in time, it's specifically engineers, like let the
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: smartest people do the job. And before the Second World
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: War breaks out, Joshua joins technocracy inc. Technocracy Incorporated was
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the brainchild of one Howard Scott, a renowned scientist and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: engineer with a doctorate from the University of Berlin. He
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: had been involved in really complicated projects across the world.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: He had worked in munitions factories in Britain and industrial
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: projects for US Steel, and those involved in Technocracy inc
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Believed that it would solve all the issues currently being
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: caused or mismanaged by the governments. It believed it could
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: create a more rational and productive society because it was
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: controlled by technical experts instead of politicians and other such people.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: And Technocracy in goes out of its way to state
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: that it is not a political movement, even though it
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: is entrenched in it. They have this whole goal for
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: changing society for the better, and the first thing is
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to remove all elected officials and replace them with technical experts, scientists,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: engineers and the like. The smart people are supposed to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: be in charge. They're like officially smart people, but like,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: who's testing for that? What are you know? The prerequisites?
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Who watches the watchmen? Yep, you know, it's a it's
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: a system, but there's no regulation really in that. It's
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: about we're anyway, so countries don't exist. It's like a
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: single entity. Countries don't exist. Everybody is part of and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: now quote the technate. They're all part of the Technque,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: ruled by engineers and scientists because they know how to
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: make a productive society. Because they're not relying on emotion.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Capitalism is out the window, which is not the worst
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: thing in the world, because like people confuse commerce in
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: capitalism all the time, they're two separate things. Anyway, I'm
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: not gonna get into that right now. So they're like,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: capitalism is a way we don't want money. Money is
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: a problem because nobody earns an income. So just to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: keep everybody on the same page, there is no government. Engineers, scientists,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: they're running the show. There are no countries. Everything's part
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: of the Technque. There is no currency, like the concept
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: of currency has gone. Money, money, money, money, money, money, money,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: money is gone. Okay. Instead you have energy vouls. So
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: as part of their functional control system, the Technique would
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: measure the total energy output of the continent and any
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: other continent, and annually a lot to each citizen a
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: set number of energy certificates, which would replace money. This
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: would mean people wouldn't go into debt. They wouldn't be
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: able to save anything for the future, and they also
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to buy or sell anything. And the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: value of goods of services would be measured not on
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: how much they cost to produce money wise, because that
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist, and not on how much physical human labor
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: was involved in creating it, but on how much energy
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: was consumed to produce the product or produce the service,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: like literal energy, like burning coal. It's basically removing the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: human element from society. It's weird. It's so it's not
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: even rational, it's not even logical. It is just devoid
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: of humanity. It's weird to me because technocracy is trying
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to present itself as this utopia of equality, when all
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: it's done is invented a new form of rations. It's
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: just rationing, but in a different format. And this is
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: where they really ensnaed people as denizens of the technocracy.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: You would only have to work from ages twenty five
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: to forty five, so you've only got twenty years of
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: work in and if you think that's good, right, you
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: only have to work about four hours a day for
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five days a year, so you
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: have two hundred days or two hundred and one on elite.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Yea off free time, leisure to do as you pleased.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Because everyone would just been living a completely rational life.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: You would have more time for leisure activities. And remember
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: this is during the Great Depression where people are struggling,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and when you hear ideas like this, of course they're
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: going to grasp onto it with two hands. That being said,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: there was a journalist who was able to smell some
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: bullshit in the air and started to do some digging
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: on mister Howard Scott. See, he was not the genius
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: engineer he had claimed to be. No, he was talking
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: right out of his horse, that's right. His entire backstory
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: was a complete fabrication. Walter Mitty here had not just
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: claimed to be a super genius scientist man, but he
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: had also claimed to be a football star at Notre Dame,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: that he started a literal riot in Montreal after punching
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: some Jesuits, and that he once had to flee to
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Mexico because he shot an archbishop. But of course, Howard
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Scott wasn't going to let something like the truth get
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: in the way of his big dreams. And Joshua, who's
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: going by j. N. Haldeman at this time, he is
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: a massive fan. He is super into Technocracy Inc. It
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: is his jam and his butter, And by the late
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: nineteen thirties, not only is he an active member, but
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: he was the Canadian president of the Canadian chapter of
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Technocracy Inc. I feel like this is a good time
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to remind everybody that Joshua Norman Haldeman was a rancher
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: come chiropractor who was now the Canadian chairman for a
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: political movement that was claiming not to be a political
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: movement that was based on the concept of a socialist
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: utopia the utilized slave labor. So, like the members of
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Technocracy Inc. They always start wearing like matching gray uniform
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and it's like, of all the options they chose, we
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: want one that is devoid of color. It's gray like machines,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: like good guys kill. That's the way to do it. So, yeah,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: they're all in gray uniforms and they're saluting each other
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: at meetings in what some have referred to as not
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: dissimilar to certain fascist salutes like brown shirts and black
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: shirts and the like, just putting it out there anywhow
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: they're doing that. They're wearing these gray hacking uniforms so depressing,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and they are it's suggested, it's suggested by Scott that
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: they refer to themselves by number and not by name,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: which makes me wonder if anybody kind of stood up
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: in the middle of it and was just like, I
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: am not a number, I am a free man. For
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: those of you who get that reference, you're well, I
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: like old things, so you know, the numbers, not names.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: The weird matching outfits. The saluting people are noticing, but
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: they're not getting too mad about it because it's Canada
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and they weren't too worried about that. But by nineteen forty,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: World War two has been going on for about a year.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Technocracy Ink is banned in Canada, and not because it's
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: aligned with Nazis or Nazi ideology or anything akin to that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: It's because it was politically opposed to the Second World War,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: or i should say Canada's involvement in the Second World War.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: So effectively, Technocracy Ink was anti war because they believed
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: that war was a waste of energy and resources. Which
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. They're not wrong, like war is a
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: waste of energy and resources. But unfortunately, when those injustices
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: happening across the world, and some motherfucker thinks it's perfectly
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: acceptable to try and annihilate another group of people for
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: no fucking reason other than their own bigotry. Yeah, get up,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: do shit, solve the problem. You want a fucking utopia,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: then you have to create the utopia. You cannot let
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: the bad people win. Sidebar. I'm gonna take a moment
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: to tell you about a movie called Equilibrium starring Sean Bean.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, he dies. That's why I don't trust any
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: movie Sean Bean's and Cuma watching him suspiciously every single time.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: So the movie is called Equilibrium, I'm fairly certain. And
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: it's a society where emotion has been removed. It is
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: a crime to feel emotion, and so everybody is taking
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: these pills to stop themselves from feeling things right, and
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: so everybody goes about their day without feeling any emotion.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: So you can't enjoy poetry or art or anything like that.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: And people are not taking the meds and our feeling emotions,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: and it's a whole thing, but it reminds me kind
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: of of this whole concept of technocracy because they're trying
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: to remove the human element from humanity, which is bad.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: It's just a shitty idea. So roll back to Technocracy
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Incia and they are anti war. They're anti politics. Allegedly,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: they're like not what in Canada has be involved in
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: a world war. They don't like Nazis, which is good
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: because nobody should like Nazis. I feel like this is
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: something I should not have to explain to you. But
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: if you hold Nazis in high regard, you've got a
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: fucking problem. You need therapy because you are wrong. You
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: are just objectively wrong as a person. Okay. No, they
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: don't like the Nazi Party because they're political and because
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: they started a war, which wastes resources. That's why they
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: don't like them, because they wasted energy and resources. They
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: don't like any form of communism or socialism specifically because
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: they don't believe that is the best way to distribute resources,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: because it should be divvied out by engineers. They don't
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: like capitalism because it's a waste of energy and resources.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: And so because they release a statement saying that they
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: are anti war, Technocracy inc Is banned in Canada and
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: on the eighth of October nineteen forty Joshua Haldeman is
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: actually arrested by Mounties the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: charged with belonging to an illegal organization on the Canadian
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Defense Act. Why because he was out printing Technocracy ink flyers.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: He had paid for it to be printed in a
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: local newspaper. Like I feel like this is an actual
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: literal definition of a paper trail, Like you left an
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: actual paper trail, Joshua, Oh my goodness, I didn't even
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: tell you his number. So, Joshua Norman Haldeman's number was
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: one zero four five zero dash one. In the way
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: that they came up with these numbers, it was like
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the longitude and laritude of the place in which you
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: were residing. So because he was in Regina, again the location,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: not the person, that was his number. And Joshua, a
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: man who clearly loved to hear his own thoughts, wrote
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: in the Technocracy Inc. Magazine predicting an upcoming smash up
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: of society. So I'm going to do a way transatlantic
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: accent for you all. M M. Technocracy Inc. Is preparing
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: for a new social order that is to come. If
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: you are a technocraid, are you doing all that you
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: can to extend the organization and discipline yourself to mar
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: it subjectives, and like before the ban actually comes into play,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Howard Scott is out there telling everyboday that technocracy ink
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: is so powerful and so influential that it will affect
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the government's decisions to be involved in the Second World War.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: So Joshua tries to travel, like from Canada down to
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: the US to Minnesota, to Minnesota, eh to do like
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: a speech regarding technocracy inc. But he stopped at the
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: border and they're like no, no, thank you, You're not allowed.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: So you're back to Joshua being arrested by mounties. So
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: he put an ad in the paper. He had his
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: paper trail and like twelve buildings end up being raided
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: by mounties, including his. He gets arrested and then is charged,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and he is charged with distributing and publishing documents likely
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: or intended to interfere with the efficient prosecution of the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: war and likely to cause disaffection to his majesty. Joshua
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: was convicted on all counts, and so he either had
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: to pay a fine of one hundred dollars plus court
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: costs or spend two months in jail. So he's convicted
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: in nineteen forty. The following year, Joshua decides it's time
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: to leave Technocracy Ink. You say, the man had become
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: disillusioned with the organization and the utopia it was supposed
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: to create, and so he establishes his own party, Total
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: War in Defense by nineteen forty three. So like before
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the end of the war, even Canada ends up removing
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the ban from Technocracy Ink, like they really it's not
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: anti war, or they accept it's not anti war, or
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that they don't have the power to do what they
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: say they're going to do, like to create dissent. For
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: whatever reason, they unban it. But at this point he
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: is already hitched to another wagon. Consistency, it seems, is
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: not Joshua Norman Haldeman's strong point. I think that might
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: be genetic, you know. AnyWho, between him starting his new party,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Total War in Defense and Technocracy Ink being like unbanned,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: he falls in love. See, for whatever reason, he decides
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: to take up dance lessons. Maybe he was just craving
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: social interaction, who's to say, But he takes up dance
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: lessons and he falls in love with his dance teacher,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Winnifred Josephine Fletcher, who unsurprisingly goes by Winnie as opposed
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: to Winnifred. So he and Winnie get married in nineteen
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: forty two. So forty one he sets up his party,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: forty two he gets married. Forty three Technocracy inc On banned.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: And when he gives birth to a set of twins,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: May and k I shit you not. They named their
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: children May and Kay and May yes is Elon Musk's mother.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: The Holdomans actually going to have two more children, so
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: they have four in total, and just to remind Joselle,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Joshua also has another kid from his first wife, who
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: he has no connection to. Again, weird how that happens.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: So he's got a wife, two kids, and he's a
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: fairly big member of the DCCC, which is the Dominion
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Council of Canadian Cairo practice. So here's a funny story. Actually,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: because we're still during the war, right in the DCCC,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: they have a meeting with the Canadian Army because they're like, hey,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: how about we send chiropractors off to war like to
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: treat soldiers, And the Minister of Defense is like, it's
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: okay for them to enlist as orderlies. But they're not
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: allowed to enlist as doctors because he doesn't see them
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: as doctors. And then this goes like down the chain
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: to the head of the Canadian Army Medical Corps and
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: they're just like, no, you're you're not allowed to be
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: non combatants. So like, if you come here, you have
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: to actively fight in the war, not just be cracking
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: backs in a tent. Like, but the chiropractors want to
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: be treated as doctors, and they use the Soviet Union
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: in who are like the Allies. They're saying, like they
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: treat chiropractors and doctors equally, you should do it too.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Needless to say, this doesn't pan out for anybody in
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Joshua sort of between forty three and forty four he
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: founds a new political party to align with the Social
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Credit Party of Canada, and this all comes from an
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: idea by a Scottish man called Cloveld Hugh Douglas, and
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: so he had this concept of social credit. So like
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Joshua was like super into Howard Scott, who had you know,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: was a big bullshitter, and then goes to Clifford who Douglas,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: who was also a bullshitter, who made up a bunch
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: of stuff of his past as well, Like he said
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: he was the chief engineer of the British Westinghouse Company
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: in India, but like there's no information, there's no record
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: of his existence there whatsoever. He's just like pulled it
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: out of a hat, like, Yep, no, this is the
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: British westing House Company. Yeah, where we're where we got
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: the colonies India, Yep, that's where they are. Yeah, but
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: there's like no record of him doing anything. So this
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Social Credit Party, which is Douglas's idea, he believed that
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: the financial system, so capitalism effectively, that there was a
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: natural imbalance in it. When I tell you the amount
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: of jargon I had to dig through to get to
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: this core concept. Basically, workers don't earn enough money if
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: they cannot consume the goods they produce. Like if you
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: made boots, you should be able to afford the boots,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: If you made bread, you had to be able to
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: afford the bread, et cetera, et cetera. And that in
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: social credit, in order to bridge that gap, the government
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: should provide sort of a stipend like sort of like
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: a universal basic income that everyone should have in order
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: to survive. And Douglas felt that social credit should exist
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: within a political sets, but it wasn't the political system itself.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: This is actually a great segue for me to talk
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: about Marxism. So Marxism does not exist in a vacuum.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Marxism exists within capitalism because, as far as Marx was concerned,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: the polarity, the distance between poor and rich was too wide,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: and that these should be closer, like nobody should be
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: mega rich and nobody should be poor. Basically, you know,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: no billionails right, effectively billionaires didn't exist then, but also no,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: so the gap between rich and pool should be closer, right,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: so that nobody's living in poverty and nobody's buying twelve
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: fucking super yachts. Release the orcas. Anyway, it exists within capitalism.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: That's how Marxism works. So social credit should exist within
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: some kind of system. However, Douglas believed that it was
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: incompatible with democracy, and it was also supposed to be
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: part of like this Christian altruism system. No, I'm not
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: here to trash anybody's economic system, except I absolutely am,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: because it's fucking laughable. So like the idea of getting
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: like a boost to your income makes perfect sense, like
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: that in itself. I don't really have too much of
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: an issue with but he wanted like goods to be
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: worthless and the government to pay more. And but like
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: this is a time where we're talking about like bread.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: You know, bread should be much cheaper, like corang should
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: be much cheaper. Yeah, okay, co, but you still have
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: to pay farmers. Like it was a whole it's a
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: whole weird thing with like some very strong Christian roots
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: and boil boy, does Joshy love this? And what do
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: you know? He eventually becomes a provincial leader of the
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Social Credit Party. There must be more than this provincial life,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: which there is because he goes on and becomes the
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: party's national chairman. And for a party that believes in
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: having a basic universal income, they're not really a big
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: fan of equality or equity, Like they're so anti communists,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: like no sharing and caring hair pals, Like they're not
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: into that at all. And in case you're wondering, yes,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: it does get worse because it's not only anti communists,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: but it's also anti Semitic because it bloody hates banks right,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: which on its own again you're thinking that's fine, people
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: can hate banks, bankers or wankers quite a lot of
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the time. But the reason that they were so staunchly
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: anti bank was mainly because Jewish people worked in the banks,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: because the banks were Jewish. That's it. It's based specifically
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: on that. And J. N. Haldeman has to like tell
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: members not to be too overtly anti Semitic, like, don't
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: do too many dog whistles, guys, because the press is
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: starting to notice and we don't need the bad publicity.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Their aggressively anti Jewish movement did not go unnoticed, like
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: the Canadian Jewish Congress were well aware of them, like
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: they were genuinely concerned by the actions of this party,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: and like the Social Credit Party I think in Canada's
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: entire history, is like the most anti Semitic party that
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: has ever existed. And the Socreds have like a bunch
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: of newspapers and shit, and in one of them they
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: actually print this bollocks. It is propaganda. It's a fake
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Zionist like peace. It is the protocols of the is
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: a zion It is pure conspiracy fodder, right, And when
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: he is called on it, Joshua says that the plan
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: is outlined in this protocols has been rapidly unfolding in
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: a period of observation of this generation. Effectively, the soul
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Creds made up this fake text, right, this fake document
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: saying that Jewish people were part of a secret society
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: that we're planning to take over the world. Right, it's
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: absolute fucking nonsense. Right. But Joshua was like, this is
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: clearly happening and says, and I quote this evidence indicates
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: that anti Semitism is a whopon of international finance and
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: socialism to introduce totalitarianism. He's trying to say that people
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: accusing him of being anti Semitic is a way to
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: create dictatorships. That's what he's saying. That's what as fucking
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Bonker's pal, you need to either take more or less
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: of your medication. I'm not sure which. It's such a fake.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: It is such a complete fake that like a Swiss
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: court ends up dealing with it and they're like this
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: is officially bollocks, Like this is the fakest fake that
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: of effecd Like that's like someone trying to paint the
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Mona Lisa. But it looks like what that wee lady
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: did when she tried to repaint Jesus and made him
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: look like a monkey like that. And this is in
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: nineteen forty seven, this is two years after the end
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: of World War Two, where literally millions of Jewish people
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: was slaughtered like animals. And he's trying to say that
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: there's a secret world word I'll try to take over,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: and like, here's the thing. We're going to talk about
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Jewish people in banks for a quick way second. So
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: the reason that Jewish people are typically a sonociated with
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: money and money lenders in banking is because of discrimination
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: throughout history. And that's where they ended up because that
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: was the only positions that were available to them, like
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: for a long time, unless they were working within their
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: own communities. Those were the ways that they made money.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like that whole trope of gay men
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: becoming hairdressers, right, and it's an old one, and it
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: basically went that heterosexual men do not work in hair salons.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Homosexual men work in hair salons, and so what would
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: happen is outwardly, gay men would get jobs and hair
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: salons because they knew they'd get a job as a
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: hairdresser or whatever, because that was a safe space for them.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Like stereotypes happen because society usually forces it to be
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: that way. Like that was the example my old lecturer
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: gave us on our very first week in sociology, because
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: like when you first start, they try and deconstruct your
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: biases and things like that, and so it sort of
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: talked about things like that and how stereotypes exist and
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: how to challenge those stereotypes and the inherent bias that
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: we have within us, so things like that. So Jewish
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: people became money lenders because that was the employment that
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: was available to them, and Joshua Norman Haldeman here is
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: convinced that Jewish people were controlling all the banks and
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: therefore the governments and everything in between, and he wanted
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Jewish people to join the Social Credit Party of Canada
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: because Social Credit is pro Christian and pro Canadian. It
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: is nineteen forty eight. J. N. Haldeman is married, he's
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: got four kids. He's part of a political party with
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: some dodgy origins and current stuff going on, and his
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: chiropractice business is doing well, and he also finds his
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: new passion in life and he never gets what it is. Flying.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: He obtains his pilot's license, which just makes things much
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: easier for him. So before he'd be driving like six
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: hours to get from like one practice to the other practice,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: or he was trying to go to one rally i
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: mean meeting, and you'd be going from A to B.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: And now you could just fly, and so he was
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: zooming across the airways. My favorite part about the political
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: side of this is the fact that J. N. Haldeman
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: managed to lose every single election he ever stood in,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Like he never won once, he didn't even get close.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: He just failed consistently. I mean, this is a definition
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: of a man who kept failing upwards, you know. But yeah,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: he's using the plane to fly from like practice to practice,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: he's doing political stuff. He's taking his family on trips,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: and he even goes to like the Palmer Lyceum down
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: in Davenport, Iowa, where he says his best day B. J. Palmer,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: which is where they're having this big chiropractic event, and
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: so he goes down to it. It's like a conference
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: and he does this big speech about personal freedom. WHOA.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: He's there with his wife and May and Kay the
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Flying Twins, like they actually get named the Flying Twins
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: because they're like, look at these babies on a plane
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: or like these toddlers on a plane. It's like the
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: old timey version of going viral, Like it was like, wow,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: look at these babies on a plane. So it becomes
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: like a big thing and it ends up on like
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the TV and stuff. But back in Canada, things were
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: not going super great for Jen. See he was losing
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: every election and also was convinced that communists were everywhere.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: He ends up getting absolutely like balled at by a
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: group of like housewives in Regina and Canada because he
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: tells them they're like affront for the Communist party, like
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Canadian housewives, like you're technically communists? What may what? So, like,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: he tries to gather sort of proper funding for the
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: soul Creds, but he just can't do it, possibly because
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: he's pissed off all the bloody bankers. So by nineteen
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: fifty he's like, oh, the government's out to get me.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Everybody hates me. And instead of moving to I don't know, America,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: like United States, of which is just across the border.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I mean he loves Minnesota. Eh, clearly he's born there,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Like he he could easily move to the United States,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Like he could just move there, him and his family
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: couldn't move them all. He chooses not to do that
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: and instead decides nineteen fifty time to move to South Africa.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Like it was a surprise for most people that he
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: decided to upsticks and move with may Ky and Whennie
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: like down to South Africa, because it, for a lot
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: of people just seemed to come out of nowhere. But
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: he says that he was inspired to move there by
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: an Anglican minister from South Africa that he met at
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: a Toronto trade fail, the place that Anglican ministers are
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: known to frequent. And when he moves there with may Ky,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Whinnie and the whole kit and Kaboul, like the apartheid
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: regime is only really being like established, Like it wasn't
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: running for like this entire time. It wasn't fully integrated.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: But he came just at the right time for him.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: And like in South Africa, because most people were clean shaven,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: they thought he was a bit weird because he had
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: a beard and it's like reddish brown. That being said,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I've never met a man who didn't have a bit
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: of a in his beld, Like it just seems to
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: be a thing anywhow not relevant, but I just noticed
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: it like you'll start noticing it to you. But like
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: does some man have read in his beild? Everyone does.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: So their life in South Africa did not start off
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: in the most luxurious of ways because like he sells everything,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: gets rid of everything, grabs the wife and the four kids,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: gets on a boat and travels for like a month
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: to get to South Africa. And the entire journey he
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: is just chucking buckets. He has terrible seasickness. He is
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: not doing well, and here arrives in South Africa without
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: knowing anybody, without having any sort of plan, like he
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't have anything set up, like nothing, Like they arrive
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: and they have to sleep on a beach because he
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: hasn't organized anything, Like they have to stay on the beach.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Will they build a bloody plane? Like it was a
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: plane kit, like you could buy a plane kit back then.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: It wasn't just like making it out of bicycle parts
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: and an old engine like Lilian Bland. No, he was
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: building it from a kit. And so then they had
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: the plane and he flew across trying to find somewhere
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: to be. This is the wildest part, Like this is
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: a thing crazy men do. This is midlife crisis nonsense
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: right here. Oh, just sell up your entire life, make
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: your family travel listening to your puke for a month,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: make them live on a beach. Will you build a
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: plane so you can figure out your next step? And
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: the man is we know, Love's flying. So he's flying
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: all over South Africa trying to find somewhere to go.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: And his own family say that he wanted to do
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: like adventuring because he was like an adventure junkie and
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: love traveling around like he is flying his plane, so
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: he's trying to find someone to live. Yeah, but he
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: is also trying to find the lost city of the
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Kalahari Desert. And he would do it every summer. Every
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: summer he'd get in his plane and he'd be like,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna find this lost city. I'm a white man,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna do it, like sure, buddy, sure. Like
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: he loved flying about so much. He'd be in South Africa.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: He'd been up in Rhodesia. So Rhodesia is like you
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: think apartheid was bad, Rhodesia is a proper white supremacist
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: state and people fucking hated it, like even the British
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Empire thought they were too racist the British Empire, like
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: it was awful and it's just shitty. But anyway, South Africa.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: So when he finally settles down in Pretoria, he hints
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: up writing an essay back to one of the old
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: newspapers in Canada, basically stating like how amazing life is
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: in apartheid South Africa. And I'm gonna I'm gonna do
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: the voice again because I'm gonna read you almost verbatim.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say some words. We have two Native
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: and word garden boys in the summer and one in
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: the winter, and a Native girl. We give them food
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: and a lot of their clothing and pay them from
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: ten dollars to fifteen dollars a month. The law requires
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: that we supply them with separate furnished rooms with nine
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: inch brick walls, private toilet and shower. In fact, better
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: living accommodations than I enjoyed for most of my life
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: in Canada. It is impossible to make a Native work hard.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: It takes three Natives to do the work of one
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: white man, and white people here work half as hard
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: as Canadians. Don't worry, it gets worse. Black labor in
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: South Africa industry is found to be the most expensive
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: labor in the world. The males among the blacks on
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: their reservations do not work at all, and the women
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: may work an hour or two so on the reservations.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Their standard of living is not very high, but they
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: are happy and contented with it unless straight up and
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: stirring them up is an almost impossible job. In spite
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: of the best efforts of the communists, they've had no success.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Any talk of a native uprising in Africa is purely
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Communist wishful thinking or propaganda. There was no place in
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: the world where the natives are treated better nor receive
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: higher wages than here. Strict law enforcement is necessary to
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: prevent the natives from surrounding territories from flocking here. He's
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: basically saying that everything's great, the working conditions are great,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: he pays everyone so much money, like everybody is doing amazing,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: and that they have to stop people from other African
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: countries coming to South Africa because native indigenous people of
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: South Africa are having too good a life and as such,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: other people are flocking there and they have to stop it,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: and that very strict laws as part of this apartheid
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: regime are necessary to keep order, and that everyone is
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: too lazy to revolt. Like that's that's what he goes
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: on to say. A native may be able to read
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: and write in four languages and have no understanding of them,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: or maybe he just understands what he wants to understand.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Some are quite clever in a routine job, but the
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: best of them cannot assume responsibility and will abuse authority.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: The present government of South Africa knows how to handle
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: the native question. They are endeavoring to make the native
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: as independent and self supporting as possible. The Communists and
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: their fellow travelers continually misrepresents the government's efforts. See Josh boy,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: he always felt like he was hot done by that
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: he had a tough life. Like here's the thing, living
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: through the Great Depression. Granted, I will give you that
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: that sucks, right, but you have every opportunity to make
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: a good life for yourself if you just loved it
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: and enjoyed it. But instead you wanted to remove the
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: rights of other people. Because apparently, unless he can physically
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: see someone being oppressed in front of him, then he
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: must be the one being oppressed, and he is trying
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: to convince more Canadians to move to South Africa. He's
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: trying to get a greater white population there. He's like,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: everything's better here and the natives are stupid and we're
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: so much better than them. It's not just racism, it's
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: eugenics as well. It's like this whole fucking thing. And
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: he's trying to convince racists to move to an area
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: and make it even more racist, like Elon Musk's racist
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: grandfather is trying to do that. He's like, come, let's
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: treat these people as if they're not human. But look
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: how well I'm treating them. They have the ability to
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: work for me, even though they're so stupid they can
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: only just about do their jobs. Like what the actual fuck, Joshua.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: He's also, by the way, getting super tight with the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: South African government because he's doing it's Cairo practiced of
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: He's clack in the backs of South African leaders, government officials, presidents,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: the whole shaban and like even his office, like his
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: chiropractor practice, like the governor's mansion was like I think
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: it overlooked it even it was like fairly close. And
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: his business builds for like the next ten years and
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: then in nineteen sixty the Prime Minister comes to visit,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: like the British Prime Minister Harold McMillan is there and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: he's like, you're being a bit racist. Like the British
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Prime Minister has been like us a bit much, Lads,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: I think you might be crossing a bout of a line.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like when Isabella and Ferdinand of Portugal,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: who were like, okay, Christopher Columbus, could you maybe not
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: subjects of Portugal should not be slaves? Christopher Columbus, Okay, okay,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Like it's got that kind of vibe to it. It's
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: like to that pal that's not appropriate. And in retaliation,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Jane Haldeman writes a book, The International Conspiracy to establish
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: a World Dictatorship and the Menace to South Africa, like
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: he does write another book, which is The International Conspiracy
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: and Health Like the dude loves of conspiracy and the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: conspiracies all revolve around Jewish people in socialists have a
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: secret society that is trying to take over the world,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: like I wouldn't be surprised if he was also the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: person who came up with the Lizard people, like I
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: would not be surprised. So he thinks Jews and socialists
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: are trying to rule the world and they're doing it
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: through control of health, because remember socialists want everyone to
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: have like social health care, universal health care, medicine, and
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Jewish people are doctors. And so he's like, oh, they're
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: trying to get us with medicine and fluoride in the
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: water in vaccines. Ah, Like nobody's putting a five G
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: chip in your brain. Pow, Like it's not happening. Like
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: if you walk around with a phone, people can track you.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Like it's it's not the algorithm knows. Buddy. We're gonna
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: give you another one of the quotes. Okay, the conspiracy
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: feels like any medical intervention, so long as it is
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: in mass is a desirable procedure. Above all, promoters of
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: the world government have always been behind mex vaccination programs.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Like he was worried that this Jewish socialist medical secret conspiracy.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: We're trying to control the world through vaccinations, which kind
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: of explains why Muskie Boy himself when absolutely feral during
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: COVID Like, here's the thing I want to make clear
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: to you, they tested the COVID vaccine. I get my
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: boostoos like every opportunity I get because I don't want
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: to be responsible for the deaths of other people. You know,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have to explain to you that we should
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: care about other people. And the whole thing about vaccinations
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: is we know what's in them because they list the ingredients,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: and we know how we respond to them because of
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: the immuno response we have, which is why if you
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: get a vaccine, a lot of the time, after you
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: get a jab, you'll get a fever. Like I react
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: bloody horribly to all my jabs. I am sick for
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: full twenty four hours, sometimes more. I have fevers because
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: I have some kind of autoimmune condition that my doctors
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: haven't figured out yet. But I react really badly. But
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: what's a day or two of just shitness than you know,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: the death of somebody on chemo, Like I don't want
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: that on my fucking hands, like it, neither should you.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: We know the effect of the vaccine because we have
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  Speaker 1: an immuno response. Naturally, there's going to be some people
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  Speaker 1: that are going to have a worse reaction and some
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  Speaker 1: people will have a better reaction. That's how things work.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm on birth control, you know, One of the
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  Speaker 1: side effects for birth control is death death. Another one
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  Speaker 1: is cancer or blood clots. Like, none of these are good,
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  Speaker 1: and yet I keep doing it. Okay, if I'm willing
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  Speaker 1: to go through that. If you expect anybody to go
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  Speaker 1: on birth control and you're not willing to get vaccinated,
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  Speaker 1: you don't deserve to have sex. I'm gonna say that now, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: AnyWho rant over back to Joshua Norman Haldeman Elon Musks,
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  Speaker 1: Rasi's grandfather living in South Africa with his wife Winnie
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  Speaker 1: and their group of children. So he's there, he's doing
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  Speaker 1: his chiropractice stuff. He's and they're also putting out like
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  Speaker 1: bulletins every month in the chiropractic office. And so you've
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  Speaker 1: got way May Young May of May and Kay. The
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  Speaker 1: Flying Twins fame Elon Musk's mother. She would like help
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  Speaker 1: write a bunch of the stuff. And the twins would
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  Speaker 1: like do shit about the office like they would do
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  Speaker 1: reception work. And I think from when they were like twelve.
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  Speaker 1: It started when they're twelve and they just kind of
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  Speaker 1: went up from there. Anyway, forget about the Flying Twins
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  Speaker 1: for a week. Second, we're going to roll back to
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  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty. You've got Heward McMillan who's like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's a good idea, old chap. I think you're
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  Speaker 1: being away bit far about the whole concept of apartheid,
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  Speaker 1: because he sent us one of the people to kind
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  Speaker 1: of have away investigation because there was a protest of
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  Speaker 1: indigenous South Africans, of black South Africans were protesting the
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  Speaker 1: cruelty or the latest cruelty of the apartheid regime, and
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  Speaker 1: in a move that surprise is absolutely no one, they
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  Speaker 1: opened fire on the protesters. Sixty nine Black South Africans
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  Speaker 1: were killed, over one hundred and eighty more were wounded,
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  Speaker 1: and unsurprisingly, the law enforcement and the government justified the
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  Speaker 1: slaughtering of innocent humans, stating that the native mentality does
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  Speaker 1: not allow them to gather for peaceful demonstration. For them
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  Speaker 1: to gather means violence. This was known as the Sharp
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  Speaker 1: Film massacre, and in March nineteen sixty the United Nations
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  Speaker 1: passed Resolution one three four, which was the first official
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  Speaker 1: condemnation of apartheid. And it was like the start of
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it diplomatic isolation. Like you had McMillan
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  Speaker 1: been like, okay, now, this is definitely too much, Like
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  Speaker 1: you can't just shoot people. This isn't the old days
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  Speaker 1: of the Empire. You can't just do that. And so
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  Speaker 1: like this led to like a bit of a schism,
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  Speaker 1: and so this led to himself Haldeman producing the book,
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  Speaker 1: like I want to add as well, it was self published,
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  Speaker 1: like a publisher didn't do it for him. He self
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  Speaker 1: published this book, The International Conspiracy to establish a World
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  Speaker 1: Dictatorship and the Menace to South Africa. This book is
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  Speaker 1: forty two pages long, and let me tell you it
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  Speaker 1: is forty two pages too many. Like in this book
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  Speaker 1: that he chose to write and then publish, he actually
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  Speaker 1: goes on about other black people from other nations are
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  Speaker 1: going to try and invade South Africa because of the
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  Speaker 1: Sharp film massacre, and it's like you think they want
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  Speaker 1: to put themselves in front of the fire and squat,
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  Speaker 1: like you think that's situation. And he also blames like
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  Speaker 1: the world's media for calling attention to it because he
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  Speaker 1: says it's not like a big deal because he doesn't think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the slaughter, the murder of sixty nine people
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  Speaker 1: and the wounding of like one hundred and eighty others
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  Speaker 1: is acceptable like he thinks that's fine. Like he refuses
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  Speaker 1: us to call it a massacre. He calls it a riot,
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  Speaker 1: and he says it happened on purpose to affect the
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  Speaker 1: South African stock market. Like the man is coco bananas. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is not a healthy person who is
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  Speaker 1: coming up with these ideas. And like at the very
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  Speaker 1: end of his book, like he gives reading recommendations and
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  Speaker 1: it's just to a bunch of anti Semitic like newspapers
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  Speaker 1: and journals, like it's just a trover them. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the type of tripe he's were gurgitating for the rest
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  Speaker 1: of his life. But anyway, when he's in his late sixties,
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one, his grandson, Elon Musk is born
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  Speaker 1: to May and Eryl Musk, and three years later, in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four, Jan Haldeman. He's in his plane, he's
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  Speaker 1: got a passenger and he's flying one day and as
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  Speaker 1: he's trying to get to the ground, he's trying to
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  Speaker 1: do like a practice landing, the wheels get caught in
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  Speaker 1: a telephone wire and it basically just sling shots him
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  Speaker 1: to the ground like the entire plane and he is killed.
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  Speaker 1: I believe instantly he just like an old timey Acme Cutton.
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  Speaker 1: He just splats right on the ground where that he
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  Speaker 1: didn't see those telephone wires, considering how fantastic his eyesight
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  Speaker 1: was from you know, all of that chiropractic treatment. AnyWho
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  Speaker 1: So ends the story of Joshua Norman Haldeman, a man
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  Speaker 1: who had a fondness for men with dodgy credentials and
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  Speaker 1: backstories and big ideas on how to upton society, who
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  Speaker 1: was convinced that socialists and Jewish people were working together
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  Speaker 1: as puppet masters to destroy civilization and rule the world,
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  Speaker 1: that any disease could be cured by a good chiropracta
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  Speaker 1: in the vaccines will just affront to create dictatorships, and
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  Speaker 1: that democracy was the root of all evil. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: all for listening to me tell you about Elon Musk's
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