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Ep. 78: Jaguars Players & Positions to Watch in Preseason | Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Never dog bates, never dog bans.
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Speaker 2: It's awesome to be here.
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Speaker 1: Oh, guys have a great outlook, really tough group, tough
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Speaker 1: minded group. It's just another opportunity to get better and
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Speaker 1: we just take one day at a time, one practice
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Speaker 1: at a time, one rep at a time.
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Speaker 3: That's defending coordinator Ryan Nielsen, and like many of you,
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Speaker 3: he's excited to have football back in his life. Here's
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Speaker 3: a live look at Jaguars' training camp taking place right
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Speaker 3: now outside the Miller Electric Center. We're going to give
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Speaker 3: you a live look throughout the day as we talk
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Speaker 3: about what's been going down this week so far in
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Speaker 3: training camp. As we're midway through week three, Welcome in
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Speaker 3: to jag Dam this morning. I'm kind Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton,
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Speaker 3: and John Osier are with me as we get ready
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Speaker 3: just a couple of days away from our preseason games.
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Speaker 3: We're getting very excited for that. Let's start off with
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Speaker 3: our big things today. Big thing number one is the
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Speaker 3: injury bug. Last week, we saw some key injuries on
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Speaker 3: this team and a lot of injuries to different position
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Speaker 3: groups as well. Brian, we saw a couple of injuries
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Speaker 3: to the offensive line and elsewhere on the team on defense,
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Speaker 3: anything concerning you right now.
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Speaker 4: You know this might seem esoteric, but yeah, Cooper Hodgers, right,
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Speaker 4: I mean they need young interior players on that offensive line.
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Speaker 2: You've got age with.
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Speaker 4: Mitch Morse and with Brandon Sheriff, and he's a guy
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Speaker 4: for whom there are high expectations. You know, you had
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Speaker 4: the knee that cost him all of last season, and
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Speaker 4: now the back has slowed him down in camp. I
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Speaker 4: want to see Cooper Hodgs because at some point, just
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Speaker 4: looking at the law of averages, John, they're gonna need
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Speaker 4: a young interior offensive lineman out there on the field.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you would like that he's come back a little
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Speaker 5: bit working individual. You would like that not to be
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Speaker 5: long term so that he can develop this year. I
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Speaker 5: guess the thing with injuries, for me, I'm glad for
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Speaker 5: the jaguars sake that they're not involving Mitch Morse, Brand
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Speaker 5: and Shaff some of the older guys. You don't want
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Speaker 5: to see them get hurt and sort of caught in
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Speaker 5: that cycle. I guess the one I'm worried most about
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Speaker 5: is Dey. I mean, it's Andrew Winderd as silly as
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Speaker 5: it would have seen. Maybe three years ago when special
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Speaker 5: teams guy was sort of his role. He matters on
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Speaker 5: defense as a role player, as a guy who's a
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Speaker 5: leader out there, and he really matters on special teams.
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Speaker 2: I don't want my guy do yet very long. He's
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Speaker 2: the best.
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Speaker 4: Special teams player on this team. And when you don't
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Speaker 4: have that guy, it hurts.
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Speaker 3: Certainly does Captain last year as well, plays a big
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Speaker 3: role on the defense. We'll go to big thing number
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Speaker 3: two today. That's gonna be game speed. We're talking about
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs coming to town on Saturday. We'll get more
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Speaker 3: into that tomorrow, but that's the first preseason game.
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Speaker 6: Getting up to game speed.
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Speaker 3: But we've been seeing them amp up their practicing a
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Speaker 3: little bit, John as they try to get ready for
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Speaker 3: that first preseason game. But can you ever really get
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Speaker 3: up to speed until you finally play.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I don't know that you can get
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Speaker 5: up to speed. I think that's what the game's for,
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Speaker 5: is there's a transition. There's OTAs which yeh, you know,
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Speaker 5: and then there's a training camp and you start hitting
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Speaker 5: a little bit.
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Speaker 2: There needs to be that transition to the regular season.
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Speaker 5: The preseason won't match the regular season opener, but It
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Speaker 5: gets you one more step closer, and they'll play a
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Speaker 5: quarter quarter and a half the starters. That gets the
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Speaker 5: blood pumping a little bit and gets you a little
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Speaker 5: more ready for that ran.
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Speaker 7: You know, I kind of think it's kind of like
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Speaker 7: the show.
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Speaker 4: You know, when we started doing the show a couple
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Speaker 4: of weeks back, after taking a couple of weeks off,
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Speaker 4: it kind of felt start and stop. You know, it's
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Speaker 4: pretty good. We hadn't done it for a while notwithstanding that,
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Speaker 4: but you get my point. It's about getting back into
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Speaker 4: the rhythm of it to understand it. You know what
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Speaker 4: the guy next to you is doing, what the play
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Speaker 4: design is, all of that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 2: They'll get to it.
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Speaker 3: Let's do our final big thing today. It's dog Days now, Ryan,
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Speaker 3: ielt's off the top.
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Speaker 6: He said he doesn't believe in the dog days. I'll
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Speaker 6: politely disagree on that one.
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Speaker 3: But are we very yet, Brian? I mean we're about
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Speaker 3: two and a half weeks and we've had some hot practices.
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Speaker 6: What can you learn about your team during the dog days?
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Speaker 2: Is this over yet? Got nuke? What can you learnt?
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Speaker 4: It's about the mental side of the game at that point,
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Speaker 4: because the guys who can dial in their focus, who
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Speaker 4: can find their frequency right there and then and stay
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Speaker 4: with it. Those are the guys that end up making
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Speaker 4: this team or building a career in the NFL. The
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Speaker 4: long days, you know, consecutive days, the grind of it.
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Speaker 4: If it's still a grind compared to what camp used
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Speaker 4: to be, but there is some grind to it that
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Speaker 4: requires you to really be purposeful about what you're doing
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Speaker 4: and when you're doing it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the old man and me will tell you there
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Speaker 5: are no dog days in camp right now compared to
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Speaker 5: what it was. But it's not what it was. It's
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Speaker 5: what it is to me. The dog days were this
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Speaker 5: last weekend when you go fourn Or. Doug Peterson talked
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Speaker 5: about it. For the young guys, there's a little bit
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Speaker 5: of a wall right now. They have to fight there.
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Speaker 5: And I forget which day he talked about it, but
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Speaker 5: he was pretty good on it and said, look, the
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Speaker 5: young guys have to learn right now.
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Speaker 2: To fight through this.
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Speaker 5: Still find a way to produce, still find a way
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Speaker 5: to keep learning even though you're tired. He talked about
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Speaker 5: in that process is where these guys learn how to
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Speaker 5: be pros. So for what they can push them with
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Speaker 5: with no two a days anymore. These very much are
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Speaker 5: the dog days. It felt like that over the weekend
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Speaker 5: and now there's no more four straight day practices. It's
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Speaker 5: two right now and they're not and you have a game.
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Speaker 5: So the dog days, as it were, are over. But
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Speaker 5: they did push through, push right through.
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Speaker 6: Stay with us here on Jagzam.
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Speaker 3: We're prepared to do some hot takes and we're going
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Speaker 3: to talk about that preseason game coming up on Saturday.
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Speaker 3: all the available inventory and go Jags so alive. Look
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Speaker 3: right now at practice, as Trevor Lawrence trying to get
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Speaker 3: everybody organized early on. This is going to be a
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Speaker 3: shorter practice today, so imagine we'll get into team drills
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Speaker 3: in a little bit.
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Speaker 6: But things are looking good.
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Speaker 3: We'll see him, I think Head coach Doug Peterson said,
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Speaker 3: we'll see the first teamers for about one or two
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Speaker 3: drives depending on how they go. I think that's kind
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Speaker 3: of them that he usually goes with. So we'll be
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Speaker 3: good to see the starters out there for a little bit.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to see the offensive line, especially if
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Speaker 4: Cam and Ezra are going to be back and playing.
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Speaker 4: You need to develop that timing, that rhythmic cohesion, especially
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Speaker 4: with a new starting center in the middle of it.
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Speaker 4: You need time in the preseason because they're not going
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Speaker 4: to play against the Buccaneers, and then they'll get back
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Speaker 4: in against the Falcons, so you want to make sure
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Speaker 4: you get.
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Speaker 7: The most time available to them.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's been Doug's EMMO for people who didn't really
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Speaker 5: catch earlier in camp. If they practice against a team
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Speaker 5: early in the week, then he doesn't play the starters
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Speaker 5: in the game. So that's what the Tampa Bay situation
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Speaker 5: will be. And then against against the Chiefs, he'll play
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Speaker 5: the starters. So again about a quarter and a half,
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Speaker 5: I would think in terms of the offensive line, Brian.
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Speaker 2: Yes, they need to get reps.
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Speaker 5: The reality is the way the league is set up now,
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Speaker 5: Mitch Morse talked about it, I'm not sure the offensive
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Speaker 5: line ever has a legitimate chance for real cohesion until
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Speaker 5: the regular season starts anymore. They've got to get what
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Speaker 5: you're talking about. They've got to get a glimpse of it.
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Speaker 5: But it's so hard to get any sort of hitting
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Speaker 5: because they're so scared of injuries. Correctly, so it's not
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Speaker 5: the coaches are doing the right thing, but it's not.
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Speaker 2: Until week four or five where they really feel cohesion.
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Speaker 2: I don't think Listen, they might not need it. You're
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Speaker 2: probably right.
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Speaker 7: I need to see it.
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Speaker 5: No, they need it, but it's even hard to judge
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Speaker 5: because you're only seeing him for two series.
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Speaker 2: It's an amazing thing to think about these guys.
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Speaker 5: It's so important, and yet the circumstance of the league
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Speaker 5: dictate that it's really hard to prepare.
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Speaker 4: On Monday, they were indoors because of the rain, obviously,
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Speaker 4: but it didn't look like the offense line had anything
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Speaker 4: going forward it.
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Speaker 7: It was at a disadvantage all day. They were having
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Speaker 7: a bad day.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, but I left that
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Speaker 4: practice saying, these guys really need time together.
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Speaker 3: They do, and the injury bug has been hurting them
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Speaker 3: as well, as we mentioned. I'll talk a little bit
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Speaker 3: about that in my hot take later, but let's just
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Speaker 3: in this or that. Right now, we're gonna play the
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Speaker 3: Chiefs on Saturday, right, So is this a big deal
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Speaker 3: or not? It's the preseason, but you're going up against
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl champ. Whether we'll see a ton of
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Speaker 3: their starters, we don't know about that just yet. But Brian,
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Speaker 3: is it a big deal or is it not a
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Speaker 3: big deal?
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Speaker 7: Well, here's why it's a big deal to me because,
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Speaker 7: and John.
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Speaker 4: You know this, there are good teams that do everything
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Speaker 4: well right.
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Speaker 2: They practice well, they travel well, they eat well.
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Speaker 7: I mean everything they do they do it at a
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Speaker 7: high standard. In Kansas City is one of those teams.
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Speaker 4: This franchise, this team aspires to be one.
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Speaker 7: Of those teams. Well, how do you get there?
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Speaker 4: Well, in twenty seventeen, they went and practice against the
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Speaker 4: Patriots and saw it firsthand. I think that's the exact
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Speaker 4: same thing that you have here. Is you've got a
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Speaker 4: young franchise, young team that wants to be.
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Speaker 7: The team that does everything the right way.
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Speaker 4: Well, you're gonna see that when Andy reading the Chiefs
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Speaker 4: are here on Saturday night.
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Speaker 5: You did a great job with that, because I almost
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Speaker 5: believed that the preseason game was a big deal there
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Speaker 5: for me.
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Speaker 2: But I get to your point.
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Speaker 5: They can use that as a model in terms of
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Speaker 5: the actual game itself.
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Speaker 2: I have a hard time swallowing that it's a.
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Speaker 5: Big deal for the starters or for any sort of
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Speaker 5: evaluation the Chiefs being it isn't a big deal to
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Speaker 5: me because I just feel like, you know, you've watched
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Speaker 5: so many preseason games.
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Speaker 2: There's not the intensity, there's not that Mahomes magic or
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Speaker 2: whatever that is. It's a big deal for evaluation, but oh,
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Speaker 2: give your credit.
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Speaker 5: I'll give you the w I was quite because I
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Speaker 5: heavily qualified. Boy, this is gonna be Yeah, I heavily
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Speaker 5: qualified it again, that's me. It's cool to see that
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Speaker 5: up close for these teams, right, And I agree with you.
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Speaker 5: But the Patriots that year it seemed to matter. They
9:54
Speaker 5: seem to pick up something when they they got to a
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Speaker 5: good start. They made the playoffs that year. I'm not
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Speaker 5: saying that practicing against the Patriots.
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Speaker 4: It's just you want your team to see how the
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Speaker 4: best does it, and the Chiefs are the best.
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Speaker 3: You always get up a little bit more when you're
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Speaker 3: playing the champs. So there's that, Brian, you should give
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Speaker 3: the pregame speech. I think, just get a to the
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Speaker 3: latest way.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think listen, I think most reaction You're right
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Speaker 4: about that talking is not my problem. Stopping is. I
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Speaker 4: think his reaction would be most of the players, they
10:20
Speaker 4: get it. It's a preseason.
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Speaker 6: Get all right, let's do we're talking about evaluation.
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Speaker 3: Obviously, you're gonna learn a lot about the players. Some
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Speaker 3: of these rookies. It's their first not some of the rookies.
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Speaker 3: All the rookies, this is their first time playing in
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Speaker 3: an NFL game.
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Speaker 6: So when you go out.
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Speaker 3: There, is there a lot of pressure specifically on the
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Speaker 3: rookies trying to figure things out? Or is it more
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Speaker 3: pressure for maybe a veteran player trying.
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Speaker 6: To make this squad.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of veterans that have come in that
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Speaker 3: will make the squad, but you know, maybe a lot
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Speaker 3: of these offseason editions that we've been talking about, Mitch
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Speaker 3: Morris gave Davis others that we think are immediately going
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Speaker 3: to come in and have an impact.
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Speaker 5: What's the pressure like that as well? Yeah, I don't
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Speaker 5: think it's pressure on guys like Morris and Daves. I
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Speaker 5: think it's pressure on maybe a guy like Trey Flowers.
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Speaker 5: You know, I'm the roster a little bit the veteran
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Speaker 5: guy who is in here trying to be maybe either
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Speaker 5: a fifth guy or a practice squad guy. But for
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Speaker 5: the most part, those guys can also hap they've been around,
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Speaker 5: they've been in that position, they've seen other guys do it.
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Speaker 2: I'll answer like this.
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Speaker 5: The coaches do everything they can, I think, to ease
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Speaker 5: the pressure on rookie.
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Speaker 2: But there's pressure.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I can remember, you know, as iconic as
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Speaker 5: Fred Taylor is, I remember him telling me the first
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Speaker 5: few games he didn't think he was gonna make a team.
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Speaker 2: And he was a first round pick. Obviously he was
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Speaker 2: gonna make the team.
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Speaker 5: But when you're a rookie coming in and you're facing
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Speaker 5: that for the first time, and then there's this reality of.
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Speaker 2: I was just did in college anymore? You know?
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Speaker 5: So, yeah, there's pressure. But I do think, Bryan, I'm
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Speaker 5: talking to most of these guys. As soon as the
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Speaker 5: first couple of plays.
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Speaker 2: Happen, it goes back to football, and these guys are
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Speaker 2: high end. But there's pressure going in.
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Speaker 4: Right, and the pressure isn't a bad thing because that's
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Speaker 4: what you're gonna face every.
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Speaker 7: Sunday, right in the fourth quarter a big game.
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Speaker 4: Can you handle what you are seeing and feeling as
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Speaker 4: you go through the course of it. There is some
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Speaker 4: pressure though, because you've got guys who are.
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Speaker 2: Gonna get limited reps.
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Speaker 4: Right next week, a lot of reps are gonna be
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Speaker 4: spent on starting players, and then the week after that
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Speaker 4: you start giving more reps in practice to the veteran
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Speaker 4: players who are.
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Speaker 2: Gonna make the team.
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Speaker 4: So Saturday night is one really golden opportunity for a
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Speaker 4: younger guy, a younger veteran or a rookie to make
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Speaker 4: the most and try to carve his space up that
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Speaker 4: pseudo depth chart that Brian Nielsen talks about, but to
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Speaker 4: make an impression on the coaches.
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Speaker 6: A depth chart that's made in sand.
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Speaker 7: That's a great line.
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Speaker 3: So we'll see what that kind of ends up looking
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Speaker 3: like at the end of the weekend. Coming up here
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Speaker 3: on jag Zam, we'll take another live look at practice
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Speaker 3: and then we'll do some hot takes as well to
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Speaker 3: see if I here.
13:04
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Speaker 6: We hope to see you there.
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Speaker 3: I got a practice today as they get ready for
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Speaker 3: their first preseason game of the year on Saturday. So
13:32
Speaker 3: a little bit shorter, lighter practices the back half of
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Speaker 3: this week, but we'll finally get to see them in
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Speaker 3: game action, at least the starters for a little bit,
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Speaker 3: and then some of the.
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Speaker 6: Rookies, younger players that we haven't seen yet.
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Speaker 3: So it's going to be exciting to see them out
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Speaker 3: there and of course taking on the Chiefs as well.
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Speaker 3: As I look forward, I think we're going to do.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna do our hot takes right now. Actually, so, Brian,
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Speaker 3: do you remember what your hot take is?
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Speaker 2: I do? I do.
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Speaker 4: And it's young corners who are making plays. And there
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Speaker 4: are three of them that in the last week. Have
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Speaker 4: mont K Brown, who had a big play against Gave
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Speaker 4: Davis on Sunday down the sideline, really did a nice
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Speaker 4: job against the big body to turn and break the
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Speaker 4: ball up. Trey Prince, who has had a great day
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Speaker 4: on Monday in practice, and Christian braswell, who has had
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Speaker 4: a really solid camp. It's important because we talked about
14:17
Speaker 4: needing depth in the secondary and playing this press band coverage.
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Speaker 4: And I asked Ryan Nielsen during his news conference about
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Speaker 4: an hour ago about these three guys, and his eyes
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Speaker 4: lit up and he's seen the exact same thing.
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Speaker 7: He likes where they're at and what they're doing.
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Speaker 4: Trey Prince in particular, the rookie fifth round draft pick,
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Speaker 4: I really have been impressed with. He's got length, he's
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Speaker 4: got speed, he's got an attitude, he's got a chip
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Speaker 4: on his shoulder. He really wants to play well. So
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Speaker 4: it's good to see those guys. It's important because you're
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Speaker 4: not gonna be able to go to free agency and
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Speaker 4: just go pay the highest.
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Speaker 7: Salary for a corner. You've got that entice in Campbell.
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Speaker 4: Now, and this team has over the last twenty years
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Speaker 4: made up for their lack of depth or inability to
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Speaker 4: develop talent in free agency. And Trent Balke and I
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Speaker 4: had a conversation on the practice field last week, and
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Speaker 4: he knows that he's got to bring the talent in
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Speaker 4: for these coaches who then have to coach their butts
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Speaker 4: off and get these guys ready to play. And it
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Speaker 4: sure looks like that's what's happening with christ Richard in
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Speaker 4: the secondary. These three young corners are playing well.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they've invested a lot in it in terms of numbers,
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Speaker 5: necessarily in terms of high picks and these guys you're
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Speaker 5: talking about, But.
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Speaker 2: I agree that's really important.
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Speaker 5: It's a good sign too, Brian, that you've got three
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Speaker 5: guys you're talking about, because they really don't need all
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Speaker 5: three to be high end. They need a couple of
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Speaker 5: those guys they can depend on, so their odds are good.
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Speaker 5: And I agree you like what you're seeing out of
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Speaker 5: these guys. And I think with Braswell in particular, everybody
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Speaker 5: talked during the draft, well why don't they go after
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Speaker 5: this guy, Why don't they.
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Speaker 2: Take it's position of weakness.
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Speaker 5: They like Christian Braswell a lot last year, and then
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Speaker 5: he got hurt, so I think they were sort of
15:51
Speaker 5: playing the percentages a little bit. Hey, we have Christian Arrow,
15:55
Speaker 5: draft one more guy late and later in the draft
15:57
Speaker 5: in Prince, and then see our percentages on these guys
16:00
Speaker 5: develop them. It's a good sign because you need numbers
16:03
Speaker 5: back there you need and you also need those guys
16:05
Speaker 5: for teams, So that's.
16:07
Speaker 7: The big thing.
16:08
Speaker 4: On Saturday night, you can see how these guys play
16:09
Speaker 4: on special teams because that's where they're going to not
16:12
Speaker 4: not only make the roster ki but be active on
16:16
Speaker 4: game day.
16:16
Speaker 2: Earn a jersey, to earn a jersey, got to earn it.
16:19
Speaker 6: It's one of my favorite position battles. I just want
16:21
Speaker 6: to say the secondary is definitely something we should keep
16:23
Speaker 6: an eye on. I kick it back to you, John.
16:25
Speaker 2: Well, kick it back to me. Good segue. You're pro.
16:27
Speaker 5: I went with Cam Little and it went against everything
16:30
Speaker 5: I believe in a little bit because here I am
16:33
Speaker 5: talking about how this kid has shined in training camp,
16:37
Speaker 5: how boys look great. And I know that it doesn't
16:41
Speaker 5: matter for kickers until the lights go on. It doesn't
16:43
Speaker 5: matter really until week one or sometimes when you're kicking
16:47
Speaker 5: a game winner. But everything you see out of Cam
16:50
Speaker 5: Little is nothing's affected him so far. He knew coming
16:56
Speaker 5: in his sixth round, pick six or seven.
16:59
Speaker 6: OK.
17:00
Speaker 2: So yes he.
17:02
Speaker 5: Has the advantage coming in over Riley Patterson, but he
17:05
Speaker 5: stills to earn it and he's gone out and there
17:08
Speaker 5: really hasn't been any flubs.
17:09
Speaker 2: There hasn't been any.
17:10
Speaker 5: Day where he looked like a rookie who was you know,
17:13
Speaker 5: it was too big for him and the lag man.
17:15
Speaker 2: I mean, he's.
17:18
Speaker 5: All indications right now is he looks like that guy
17:21
Speaker 5: who could be the kicker for a long time now.
17:23
Speaker 5: So you say that about a kicker, you know, the
17:25
Speaker 5: circuits go crazy.
17:26
Speaker 2: But I'm very optimistic about this kid.
17:28
Speaker 5: It's it's very interesting to watch that they may have
17:31
Speaker 5: solved something that's been an issue for a few years.
17:33
Speaker 4: So I'm convinced that he has a bionic you know,
17:37
Speaker 4: hip flexer or something.
17:38
Speaker 2: He was on.
17:39
Speaker 7: He was on the field last week and they had.
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Speaker 4: That little you know, like tee that holds the ball
17:44
Speaker 4: up so they can kick field goals. And he was
17:47
Speaker 4: not stepping. He was just swinging his leg, plant foot
17:50
Speaker 4: and swinging his leg and they started at you know,
17:52
Speaker 4: twenty five yards and they got up to forty five
17:54
Speaker 4: fifty yards and he's still booming the ball without taking
17:57
Speaker 4: a step. It's amazing to watch the leg. That is
18:01
Speaker 4: a god given gift and he knows how to use it.
18:03
Speaker 4: We'll see again when the lights are on and the
18:05
Speaker 4: pressure's there. But you know, Doug was trying to get
18:07
Speaker 4: a little sense of that on the practice field on
18:09
Speaker 4: Saturday in the stadium.
18:10
Speaker 7: And stopped it, got the crowd going and drilled it.
18:14
Speaker 7: I mean, it appears the kid is unflappable.
18:17
Speaker 5: We've all been around kickers a lot. Some guys just
18:22
Speaker 5: have the gene, the personality type to handle it and
18:27
Speaker 5: not have.
18:27
Speaker 2: Stuff for it.
18:30
Speaker 5: This kid's again, it's so hard to predict with him,
18:34
Speaker 5: but this kid seems to have that and the legs
18:37
Speaker 5: unbelievable because fingers crossed.
18:39
Speaker 3: Kickers kind of like goalie and hockey like they're they're
18:42
Speaker 3: kind of out there, they're doing their own thing. But
18:43
Speaker 3: it works somehow, somehow it all comes together. And it's
18:46
Speaker 3: good we don't practice at Piscoal anymore because I do
18:48
Speaker 3: think sometimes he would look like he was playing on
18:50
Speaker 3: the high school team because he is still twenty. So
18:52
Speaker 3: we do have to remember his birthday is coming up.
18:54
Speaker 7: His birthday is a week from Saturday, right against the Buccaneers.
18:57
Speaker 6: Celebrate against Tampa.
18:58
Speaker 3: It'll be good to see my hot take this week
19:01
Speaker 3: is a little bit. We've touched on this already, but
19:03
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna learn pretty quickly on Saturday whether
19:06
Speaker 3: this offensive line has everything together. They didn't add a
19:08
Speaker 3: lot to it other than Mitch Morris. They resigned Azra Cleveland,
19:11
Speaker 3: who they traded for during the season, but a lot
19:14
Speaker 3: of what they said the issues were last season was
19:17
Speaker 3: injuries and not all playing together. So if they can
19:20
Speaker 3: get everybody healthy and play together, the thought process is
19:22
Speaker 3: that the offensive line is good enough. I think we're
19:24
Speaker 3: gonna see this pretty early whether they have the depth
19:27
Speaker 3: around them because some of them are dealing with injuries already.
19:30
Speaker 3: As Anton Harrison goes into a second year, he's in
19:32
Speaker 3: concussion protocol. We're not sure if he's gonna be playing,
19:34
Speaker 3: probably not this weekend. Ezra Cleveland has a heel injury
19:38
Speaker 3: that's limited him in practice as well, So we will
19:41
Speaker 3: see if they're gonna be able to make this work
19:43
Speaker 3: because injuries do happen, and they're gonna need somebody that
19:46
Speaker 3: can step in and play that role. Walker Little's looked
19:48
Speaker 3: great at both tackles. We know he's able to do
19:50
Speaker 3: that and step in and play, but is there anybody else.
19:53
Speaker 3: Cooper Hodges, you've mentioned before, he's heard he's working his
19:55
Speaker 3: way back from a back injury as well, So we're
19:58
Speaker 3: gonna see some of these young guys and some of
19:59
Speaker 3: the big boys and see.
20:00
Speaker 6: What they can do.
20:02
Speaker 4: There aren't that many young interior offensive lineman. You see
20:07
Speaker 4: guys like you see Keeping settling there. He's a six
20:09
Speaker 4: year VET, right, Daryl Williams has been around here a
20:11
Speaker 4: couple of years. I guess you could throw Luke Fortner
20:14
Speaker 4: into the mix there, and maybe he plays better at
20:16
Speaker 4: guard than he did at center. I don't know, but
20:19
Speaker 4: you're relying on Tyler Shatley still, right, who's a ten
20:22
Speaker 4: year VET, who said this is it for him. They're
20:26
Speaker 4: gonna need some youth in the middle of that offensive
20:29
Speaker 4: line because guys get hurt.
20:31
Speaker 5: Yeah, the major storylines to me for Camp, for the line,
20:34
Speaker 5: I'm ering away from the interior a little bit. At
20:37
Speaker 5: some point you want to see if Foster and Hodges
20:39
Speaker 5: can be those guys have grown.
20:41
Speaker 2: You've drafted him.
20:42
Speaker 5: You clearly love Hodge, as everybody who's talked to anybody
20:44
Speaker 5: around here knows they love him.
20:46
Speaker 2: Foster the same way.
20:47
Speaker 5: Those should be your guys that you're developing by next year,
20:52
Speaker 5: with Cam and Walker both in their last year. By
20:55
Speaker 5: the end of this year, you want to be walking
20:58
Speaker 5: around here with people whispering to you, Hey, looks like
21:00
Speaker 5: Jamon Foster's can yo, it can beat the swing tag?
21:03
Speaker 5: Like you want to start hearing those things. Other guys
21:06
Speaker 5: could knock him off that track, But those are the
21:08
Speaker 5: guys you're looking at.
21:09
Speaker 4: I watched practice with Tonycelly on Monday and he was,
21:12
Speaker 4: for what it's worth, impressed with Fosters. That's kid's got
21:15
Speaker 4: a chance because he's got good feet.
21:17
Speaker 6: That's so when you want to co sign, Yeah, that's
21:18
Speaker 6: a pretty good endorsement.
21:20
Speaker 7: He was impressed with his feet.
21:22
Speaker 6: Very good.
21:23
Speaker 3: Stay with us here on jack Zam. We'll be back
21:24
Speaker 3: after the break discuss what's coming up before the preseason game.
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Speaker 6: And the NFL.
21:56
Speaker 8: It's them becoming a pro and what it means to
21:58
Speaker 8: be a pro, how to take care of their body
22:00
Speaker 8: these what it means to get rest tonight, what it
22:02
Speaker 8: means to hydrate or eat, study when they're tired, you know,
22:07
Speaker 8: and that's all the that's the process that they have.
22:11
Speaker 9: To learn, because it's probably more of that mental grind,
22:16
Speaker 9: especially when your body gets tired, they wear down mentally
22:20
Speaker 9: a little bit, and the ones that can really stay
22:24
Speaker 9: mentally strong really find a way.
22:25
Speaker 8: To kind of push through.
22:28
Speaker 3: Coach Doug Peterson talking a little bit about what we've
22:30
Speaker 3: been talking about today and kind of learning to be
22:32
Speaker 3: a pro right grinding through.
22:34
Speaker 6: No one wants to be out there in full pads
22:36
Speaker 6: practicing and not usually heat, but somehow they find a way. John,
22:40
Speaker 6: what are we going to learn about them in this
22:42
Speaker 6: first preseason game, maybe from the rookies you haven't seen
22:45
Speaker 6: so far.
22:47
Speaker 5: Probably for the rookies just a feel and I don't
22:50
Speaker 5: know if we'll see it, but they'll get a feel
22:52
Speaker 5: for the speed of the.
22:53
Speaker 2: Game, the power, the change. I think we talked about earlier.
22:58
Speaker 5: I think what the rookies learned more than anything is, oh,
23:03
Speaker 5: that thing the veterans are talking about the speed that's real.
23:07
Speaker 5: So it gives them a little bit of an idea
23:09
Speaker 5: of okay out when I first played in the regular season.
23:13
Speaker 2: I've got to be ready for something different.
23:15
Speaker 5: I've got to be ready for a different level of
23:17
Speaker 5: intensity and for some rookies, frankly, you hope not the
23:21
Speaker 5: first four or five guys are afted. For some rookies
23:24
Speaker 5: they figure out, oh, this isn't something I'm gonna be
23:28
Speaker 5: able to do. But that won't be something they say.
23:31
Speaker 5: But there are rookies that figure that out of Okay, well,
23:35
Speaker 5: I need to.
23:35
Speaker 2: Start brushing up the resume.
23:38
Speaker 4: I'd like to learn that the offensive line is ready
23:40
Speaker 4: to be more efficient on third down and short right,
23:43
Speaker 4: that's the drum up and hdden, but as John pointed out,
23:45
Speaker 4: we probably won't know that until the regular season. I
23:48
Speaker 4: think what we're going to learn is is that Ryan
23:49
Speaker 4: Nilsen and his coaching staff have taken a system and
23:54
Speaker 4: implemented it pretty quickly because it's not all that complex, right,
23:58
Speaker 4: and they played with great speed and d energy. And
24:00
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna see the difference that a coaching
24:03
Speaker 4: staff can make because this defense on Monday, but throughout
24:07
Speaker 4: camp have.
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Speaker 7: Really looked like they're ready to.
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Speaker 5: Go augre with Brian again, which is a record, but
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Speaker 5: that's exactly I mean, what you want in the first quarter,
24:17
Speaker 5: after the first quarter is to be walking around the
24:20
Speaker 5: press box and what guys played fast, and does that
24:24
Speaker 5: necessarily translate the regular season.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but.
24:28
Speaker 5: You don't want to not be feeling that because if
24:30
Speaker 5: you're not playing faster right now, you sort of wonder
24:32
Speaker 5: when they're gonna play fast.
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Speaker 3: A lot to talk about. We're gonna go over a
24:35
Speaker 3: little bit more tomorrow on jag Zam. Then until then,
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Speaker 3: we will see you then