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Next Steps · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Music. And welcome back to the Boundary
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  Corner Podcast, along with my partners Brian Siegler and
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  Jonathan Talley, and the family member himself, the White
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  Victoria. Tonight I'm Curtis Wilson and
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  this episode is brought to you by Doctor Jeremy Counts down at
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  Main Street Pharmacy in Blacksburg, your friendly
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  neighborhood pharmacy. Three O 1 S Main St.
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  Blacksburg, VA appearance #7 for #1 in our hearts. 57 on the
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  line, Dwight. How you doing tonight, man?
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  The. Original.
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  Yeah, man. Hey, I appreciate it, man.
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  Listen, it's it's an honor to be back on, man.
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  I do. So I got a radio show.
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  I do a segment. I've.
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  I've done a lot of stuff, man. I've been very blessed.
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  Hokey Nation continues to show me love when I come back for
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  games. It's crazy, man, because lineman
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  need love too. And y'all show me a lot of love
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  man. And I'm just, I'm really.
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  I told you guys this. I keep telling you sometimes
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  when I get on and listen or watch y'all y'all got one of the
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  top Vt podcasts in the game, man.
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  And that's that's real. I mean the guests you guys have
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  been having, the topics. It's lovely bro.
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  But thank you. I'm great.
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  I'm blessed. Awesome, awesome.
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  The guest we we just said, you said the guest we'd be having
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  too. You the guest, you the you, the
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  honorary #1 guest. So hey man, we we appreciate you
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  coming in here. We know you got a a lot of
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  things you could be doing or you do have to do.
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  But you choose to spend a little bit of time with us.
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  But we'll jump right in it when we talking about things to do.
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  We know you got kids. We've been keeping up with you,
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  your son playing basketball with your daughter.
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  Your daughter's out there. ODU, right?
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  My. Older daughter, Yeah.
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  Oldest daughter out there. ODU can.
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  I ask you a quick question. Go ahead.
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  How'd she feel after September? How did Daddy lay it on her?
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  Oh, she was salty because she was talking.
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  And a lot of. The first year, her freshman
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  year, even on my dirty, my dirty suburban, she rode in the back
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  of the window. ODU.
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  Whatever. Some little thing.
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  Just trolling, bro. I said you.
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  Grew up a hokey fan? You even went to the Tech UVA
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  game at UVA and we're trolling UVA fans at the UVA bar.
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  You know you're a Victoria, but. She's also a so yeah she was
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  trolling but it felt good because I don't really chalk
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  trash but if anyone knows me, once I talk I I let you have it.
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  And I am also AKA petty Victoria.
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  I keep receipts. I got that Virgo memory, so I
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  remember a lot of stuff. And you know, funny thing, I
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  mentioned my birthday being a Virgo, we play ODU on the 14th.
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  We can't lose that game. That's my birthday.
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  Oh man, they ain't lose that game.
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  We cannot lose that one. Man, I don't care who birthday
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  it's on. We can't lose that.
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  That would be a horrible start. So we we don't get to that.
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  We ain't going to even talk about that.
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  We want to stay on the kids and the family for just a minute.
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  Isaiah state runner up, right? Yeah, two years in a row.
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  Stay runner up. Stay run up who who they get
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  beat by. They lost.
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  You know it's funny. Tally they they played South
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  Lakes. The team they beat early this
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  season who has Jordan Scott. George Scott plays at the South
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  Lakes for those that know Virginia high school basketball.
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  South Lakes, rich in tradition. I was was building 77 Patriots,
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  only 12 years old as a school and Isaiah finished his school.
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  His record at Patriot 89 and 13 and had a great year Just was
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  named Allstate second team all region first team all day.
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  Had a great junior year but just a great career.
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  They played South Lakes early this season and Isaiah was a key
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  factor with 17, seven and seven. Seven boys and seven assists but
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  had a monster dunk that was trending online but South Lakes
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  they would do we miss shots that we would we normally make with
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  our eyes closed. Isaiah who shoot shot this past
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  year 80% from the field. He missed 7 or 8 free throws.
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  He was only one or two or something from the field.
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  It's just that that his team made a long time friend and
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  brother Tay Barbara, who's going to Harvard to play there in the
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  fall. He only scored eleven.
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  He was our leading scorer. He was off, he was 4 or 13 and
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  Desmond the point guard was O of eight from the field.
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  He did have nine points, but it all came at the free throw line.
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  It's just one of those games, man, because you know sometimes
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  you got to tip your hat and say they made the shots, they made
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  the plays and just was just just was a was a tough loss.
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  But you know I look at his career, he's not he's just
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  scratching the surface as a player.
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  You know he's getting a lot of interest and calls.
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  It's it's so different now with the portal he's got.
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  He's got a couple of small offers but he's been contacted
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  by Boston College. Radford has reached out Wagner,
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  who just won. Wagner reached out about him
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  three weeks ago. I know a lot of people are
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  texting and wondering online right now.
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  The deal is we're going to possibly prep because he's only
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  17. He turns 18 in May.
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  He's 6. Seven.
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  He's still. Growing.
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  If we do prep, we'll go forth union, but he's going to play
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  with New World, the AAU organization, one of the best
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  AAU teams in the DMV up here in the DC area, which has a lot of
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  college connections, You know, again, he's going down to ODU to
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  visit his oldest sister. He's going to work out with
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  Jason Wade, just finished his senior year at ODU as a
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  basketball player. So God has a plan.
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  We got a lot of interest with his skill set inside.
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  He can handle the ball, he can play defense, he can guard one
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  through 5. He's coachable, he can score.
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  I mean, he's got things to work on.
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  But right after the loss, just I'll say this so we can move on
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  right after the loss, you know, it's emotional.
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  You watch your son's career end, even though it's a remarkable
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  career. And if you have kids, everyone's
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  going to go through this because when they are hurt and they're
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  sick, you're hurt and you're sick.
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  You know, seeing him breakdown during the runner up trophy
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  presentation, then watching South Lake cheer and celebrate,
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  you can't hide from that disappointment.
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  But it was tough to watch. But then when I think about it,
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  I know God has a plan. It's just different because you
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  have to be patient. You have to be hard, work hard.
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  And he came home rested for a day.
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  And that that weekend, that Sunday and Monday, he was in the
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  gym working out and went in the garage, which is working out.
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  And respect to South Lakes, I got a kid named Jordan Scott.
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  He's got a Tech offer, Virginia Tech, he's got about 22 Power
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  Five offers. His mom played at Michigan
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  State. She's a South Lakes alumni.
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  And then his dad played at Miami.
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  So he's basketball royalty. You guys, if you follow high
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  school basketball, you hear more about him.
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  Again, Tech was there to see him when when Patriot, my son's
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  team, beat him. I thought maybe they might
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  scratch and knock at Isaiah's door.
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  But it's OK We're going to see what happens.
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  And I'm happy. My son had a great career.
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  I mean, you know, he chose. It's weird.
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  He started off with football, but me, Mike and Marcus and all
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  of. Us.
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  They were football. He chose basketball.
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  That's the right thing on, man. Thank you, man.
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  Thank you. We love to hear it, man.
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  We love to hear it. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I mean I saw you, I saw you earlier, you know, you know
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  kind of piggybacking off this with the with the basketball you
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  you had some thoughts on the VHSL?
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  Oh. Gosh, and some of those rules,
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  man. I saw it out there.
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  I figured I had to throw it out there to you.
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  So AB, I've been holding back because I'm very, I'm very
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  aware. Because if I would have been
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  tweeting and talking my son as a sophomore, junior senior.
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  If you saw remember the Titans, man, Virginia is progressed.
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  We're a blue state now. But some people still get, you
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  know, petty. Remember.
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  Remember the Titans? They were trying to blackballed,
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  Denzel trying. To see them, so I didn't.
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  Want to say anything but now that my son's graduating in May,
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  I'm not holding back the VHSL. Even with the voting how they
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  did for Allstate this year, The fact that I grew up in Virginia.
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  I'm a proud Virginian. I played football and basketball
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  for two Hall of Fame coaches, coach, browser and basketball
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  coach Mike Smith. The truth of the matter is it's
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  just different. And I'm not one of those guys.
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  As y'all all know that my day was so much better and AAA, AA
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  and single A was so much better. We are a huge state South.
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  Virginia. Grown.
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  Northern Virginia is booming. I live up here.
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  It's overcrowded. The 757 is growing.
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  Richmond is growing. It's it.
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  You got to have classifications. But in Virginia, we have.
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  Six on basketball and football and all the other sports and
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  each region is done does things differently, even for the
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  playoffs. I'll share this with you and
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  your your viewers and listeners. Classic example.
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  We played Oscars with my son's team played Oscar Smith in the
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  state semis at Hilton high school in Woodbridge or neutral
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  site. But Patriot was the higher seed
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  so they it was up. Here I go to watch OP Girls play
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  Thomas, Dale, Thomas, Dale Girls before my son plays.
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  Back in the day, a double header or triple header was held You
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  you bought your ticket. You were there the whole day
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  night or whatever. The VHSL?
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  No. I see what they were doing.
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  They made us. You had to buy 2 tickets for
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  both games if you were there for the OP Osborne Park Thomas Dale
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  game. The announcer, who is a friend
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  of mine, made an announcement. Security, police and everybody a
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  DS made everyone clear. The gym go back outside after
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  the game was over, wait in the cold and rain and then re enter
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  with your electronic ticket and you had to go back in.
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  It was insane. And I'm just like, what?
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  What? Why?
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  Why? It's just dumb.
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  And it's dumb. And you know, football is at a
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  all time bad. It's all at all time low, I
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  mean. You got three and seven teams,
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  including my alma mater, on the best programs of VHSL history,
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  Hampton High, two years ago, made the playoffs at 3:00 and
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  7:00. I played in the year well.
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  My senior year we finished eight and two and we needed a team to
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  lose and we had to beat Bethel because Iverson was locked up.
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  So we ended up winning 20 and seven, but we had to win that
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  game. And I think we needed Norview to
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  lose in Norfolk. And we got in and we lost the
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  NORCOM who won states that year out of porcelain.
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  But that's how hard it was. I don't know, man.
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  We are in a I'm, I'm not gonna stop now that my son's out,
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  'cause I didn't want any shame that's going on.
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  I didn't. But I'm going to speak, and I'm
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  not even one of those guys that stirs the pot.
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  I'm very conscious of what I tweet, what I say.
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  But I'm not going to, I'm not going to lose sight of the fact
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  that what's wrong is wrong, is what's right is right.
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  And it's what you see now in this world with the NCAA, the
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  VHSL, even if you want to get political, even the educational
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  system, there are a lot of people making decisions that
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  don't understand how it affects the people you're making
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  decisions for. From the college football
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  playoffs to conference realignment to NIL the portal,
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  there are a lot of decisions being made and like y'all need
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  to get the right people. In the room, man.
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  That's all I'm going to say, man.
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  It's just crazy. All right.
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  I'm going to jump there because we, I had this to talk later on,
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  but you brought it up. Let's talk about it.
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  Let's talk about NIL, man, because if you look across the
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  boards at sites, you hear people's insights in talking
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  about the Hokies. I mean, it's considered a top 25
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  NIL product. I mean.
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  Top 25 NL product. You don't seem surprised by
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  that. So why?
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  Why? Why don't you?
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  Why are we already there? Go ahead.
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  Brendan Hill, who's now a coaching He's kind of backed off
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  with Twitter, but I would chime in with him because I would try
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  to tell people on Twitter spaces I'm not calling people liars.
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  I'm not that guy. But I know and have always
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  known. But Genia tech collectors have
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  money. As a matter of fact, April 4th
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  or 5th, I'm meeting up with some boosters in Alexandria, city of
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  Alexandria for some cocktails and drinks and dinner where I
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  think my cousin Mike's going to be there, some other former
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  players and some other donors. I'm like, damn bro, we got
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  people that got money like we think about tech.
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  You think about Bruce with Mike and hold on the Today.
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  Show. Nah, bro.
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  We got donors that own construction companies that that
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  that know people like Tony Soprano.
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  We got money to burn, man. Like people just be talking.
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  Like, oh, you know, we don't have it, you know, Yes, that
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  article that came out right before the season started, shed
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  some light in how we weren't or we were misusing stuff or the
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  whole thing with John Boleyn and all of that.
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  But I still know, and I've always known Curtis, we've had a
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  group of people that really care about tech and that donate
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  money. I've been around them, I've hung
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  out with them. I've been even last spring game
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  I was up in the suite with Kevin Jones and all those guys and
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  Aaron Rouse and there was a lot of money up there, a lot of
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  important people, and you wouldn't even know it, man.
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  People think money. You see in the Drip and the
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  jewels a lot of times it's like, Nah, they got they got on some
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  khakis from TJ Maxx and the Polo.
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  It's not what you think, and they're real chill.
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  But in all seriousness, man, we have a great in our in IL,
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  Triumph is doing a great job, and there are a lot of people
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  who really want to see Virginia Tech succeed in all sports and
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  they're donating their time and money.
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  I'm seeing it. Good to hear.
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  Yeah. And I mean we it's been a whole
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  lot from a national perspective in terms of nil and in terms of
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  some of these other things that we're that we're talking about.
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  I mean you got, you know, you got one team that's like
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  unionizing players. You know there might be you know
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  there's talk of like in the future trying to get collected,
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  bargaining on the table. Like what are your thoughts on
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  nil and how it's trying to, you know, move forward with these
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  new, these new type of rules? I'm learning more about it every
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  day, every week, every month. I I mean, I don't.
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  I've never thought that it was a bad thing.
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  I've always just wanted some parameters.
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  I just saw an article this morning about Anne Anne.
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  What's her name? Reese.
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  Angela Reese. Angel Reese.
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  Angel Reese talk. About how discouraged she was
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  and surprised how she had to pay taxes on her nil money.
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  And when I used to write. I told people this Michael go to
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  jail for tax evasion in the middle of the tournament.
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  Listen, bro and Curtis, I I wrote an article.
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  As you all know, I used to write for 247 Sports and before that I
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  used to write for Rivals and Hokey Haven.
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  One of my favorite articles I wrote wasn't even my best one,
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  but it was one of my favorites 'cause I can relate to it was
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  the fact that I've always felt life skills wasn't was essential
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  in helping people understand the student athletes and students in
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  general on how to manage money and and what it meant to have
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  the understanding of being adult and being self-sufficient.
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  And that's my only concern because we've seen the 30, four
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  30s, the Sports Illustrated articles about how 78% of NFL
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  and 79% of NBA players go broke after being done.
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  And I just think that it's still an issue.
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  And I mean, it's just 'cause you don't think the money is going
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  to run out. I remember when we used to get
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  our bowl per DM, bro, just get our bowl per DM for the Sugar
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  Bowl and Orange Bowl, and that was back in the late 90s.
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  I know these guys are getting way more than what we got.
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  I remember getting my money and I, you know, when I went to five
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  straight Bulls. So my red shirt.
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  Yeah, you know, it was, it was nothing.
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  But like my sophomore, junior, senior year, I was like, you get
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  the gear, but you could opt out and say, you know what, keep
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  that gear, give me the money. And I remember getting like.
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  $700.00 or 800 for one bowl game.
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  And I just remember going back home to the 757, even when we
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  got back to Roanoke, Blacksburg, going to New River Valley Mall
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  and just buying up, just going crazy, you know?
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  And you realize that ain't no money but you know, we no, I I
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  was just happy. But then my last couple years, I
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  remember like saving a little bit, getting my mom and my
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  girlfriend who was not my wife's gift.
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  And you know, spending money and managing money is a skill.
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  It's not. It's, it needs to become
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  habitual when it comes to saving.
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  And you know, old girl Reese is one of the many people that's
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  going to get caught up. But I I think it's a good thing.
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  But I think if you don't have leadership or some type of
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  systematic approach involved, they can get messy.
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  And I think, you know, I know a lot of people have been on Saban
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  about his comments when he went in front of Congress about it.
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  I don't know Nick Saban. He never recruited me.
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  I've never had a conversation with him.
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  I know my cousin knows him, but at the end of the day, I have to
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  respect what he's saying. But at the same time, we're all
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  part of the monster that made this, the mess that it is.
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  We all helped create it. I mean I posted you know, B, you
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  follow me on Instagram, my personal stuff and you follow me
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  on like so you know how funny I like to be with movies and
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  clips. You know, I I even posted on
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  Twitter about my man from blue trips who went in there.
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  The white dude that was, you know, wanted the tractor for his
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  dad. And he was the first guy that
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  came in try to secure the bag. And he, he told the coach, he
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  was like, I'm a white player, American, you know, bred or
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  whatever. I'm paraphrasing.
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  I like to get $30,000 cash. And he was just talking about
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  what he needed after the recruiting visit.
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  And I was like, damn, that was in the early 90s.
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  So that stuff has been going on. And now?
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  Look, I I wrote for Rivals in 247, so I interviewed a lot of
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  prospects over the last year, talked to him.
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  You know, I I've been around. I was just talking to Tim Suttle
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  yesterday, Tim Suttle Junior yesterday, congratulate him on
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  his deal with the Texans. So I've been around this even
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  before my son was playing ball and I know what goes on.
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  So this is nothing new. So in a lot of ways, don't get
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  mad when kids are getting even more greedy.
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  When the NCAA has been greedy, college coaches have been
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  greedy. We've all been greedy.
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  We've all been greedy. You know the NFL added in one
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  additional game, So you know it is what it is, man.
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  Now you created a monster where kids, you know, know their worth
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  and they want money. And it's not about coming from a
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  situation from the South or from up north where you don't have
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  much. It doesn't matter if you grow up
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  in the suburban environment. These kids want to get paid.
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  I come from a different time where you just won the
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  scholarship. You want the chance to get a
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  degree and go to the NFL. These kids want.
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  I mean, look at Baker with UNCI. Feel like he's been there seven
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  years, you know, so he wants to get paid and he's probably
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  living very well. You know, I mean I I tell you
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  it's wild and we talk about the system all the time and you know
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  I I've been on record as you know I I'm very pro NIL, I'm
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  very pro player across the board.
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  I do think that having some guardrails up there is
• 19:39
  necessary. But when we think about the
• 19:40
  history of college football, I mean, and just looking at the
• 19:43
  last, you know, 20 to 30 years, I mean the money made off the
• 19:48
  backs of players, it's incredible.
• 19:51
  And when you think about the ramifications of the bag
• 19:54
  dropping game, the player is the one that gets screwed the most
• 19:57
  if that shit comes to light. Speaking facts B.
• 20:02
  Look at the end of the day. Man, At the end of the day, man,
• 20:05
  my best example is my cousin. Because I was there, I recruited
• 20:09
  him at Tech. His mom was driving the school
• 20:12
  bus. He lived in Easton Newton News
• 20:15
  where my grandmother stayed, my Nana, my dad grew up.
• 20:17
  Easton Newton News then and now is no damn joke.
• 20:21
  He didn't even have a suit for the Heisman.
• 20:24
  I've talked about this on your show previously in other
• 20:26
  platforms, and the truth of the matter is, is that he made Tech
• 20:33
  A. Lot of money.
• 20:35
  I mean, think about this. He is still in 2024, an icon.
• 20:40
  Their kids, nine years old, I meet.
• 20:42
  They're like Michael Vick and I'm like yo, you nine years old,
• 20:46
  bro. I'm just telling you and think
• 20:49
  about like because tech was already doing very good.
• 20:52
  I'm. I was part of the build.
• 20:53
  I'm I'm. I was there when it started.
• 20:55
  But Mike just put this. In a zone where after that
• 20:58
  national championship game, everybody was recruiting
• 21:01
  quarterbacks like him, he gave birth.
• 21:03
  Not figuratively, but, you know, in the sense of marketing to
• 21:06
  Lamar Jackson and Russell, Sam, Newt, and this goes on on my
• 21:11
  own. And then you look at what he did
• 21:13
  for Virginia Tech. I mean, when I got to tech in
• 21:15
  94, man, we had like 3 hotels, bro.
• 21:18
  I mean, it's crazy now with all the little overpass and
• 21:21
  underpass and all these different exits in the roads.
• 21:24
  So NI LS crazy, man. But, you know, I think about how
• 21:28
  Mike was living, you know, in an apartment like a regular college
• 21:31
  student. He didn't have a bunch of money
• 21:32
  and he wasn't. People thought he was getting
• 21:35
  paid like that. He wasn't.
• 21:36
  Not under Beamer's watch. And one last point before we
• 21:39
  move to the next question. I've always said this, I've
• 21:42
  talked about this on on other other platforms.
• 21:45
  Virginia Tech isn't even now with the booming of Southwest
• 21:48
  Virginia and the growth of the campus, unlike Georgia Tech and
• 21:53
  Miami, which is in South Beach. And this is going to sound
• 21:56
  crazy, but hear me out. It's tough to cheat.
• 21:59
  Or do what Miami and other schools did.
• 22:01
  Because if you have a Hummer or you got prostitution or
• 22:06
  helicopters picking your girlfriend up.
• 22:08
  Everybody in Blacksburg and rapper and Floyd and everywhere
• 22:13
  what's going on. It is in college town, so even
• 22:19
  when I was. There, back in the day.
• 22:21
  You know, or even when I go back and it's.
• 22:23
  Grown. So much, but it's still a
• 22:25
  Southwest. If you can't do all that stuff
• 22:28
  you did at other schools because Atlanta is always jumping.
• 22:32
  You got Georgia Tech, Georgia. It's a lot to do.
• 22:35
  People go there, you know, to do other stuff, to get wings at the
• 22:39
  club where Gilbert Arenas and then hang out.
• 22:41
  You got concerts and all that. We had concerts at Tech where
• 22:45
  they came to Radford or Virginia Tech or most likely Roanoke.
• 22:49
  So it's tough to get stuff jumped off there because
• 22:51
  everybody's going to know what you driving and you ain't going
• 22:54
  to hear. About no Kingpin setting up shop
• 22:57
  in Blacksburg. It just ain't happening.
• 23:01
  Tell me what you got on this man.
• 23:03
  He had to jump off for a second day.
• 23:05
  Yeah, well, I I got a lot, but I ain't going to go into all of
• 23:10
  what I got. But I did want to say this from
• 23:12
  earlier. Virginia high school basketball.
• 23:15
  Alabama high school basketball. High school basketball in
• 23:18
  general. Get a fucking shot clock.
• 23:21
  Please. That's what I need y'all to do.
• 23:25
  Get a fucking shot, please. Proud of seeing people get a six
• 23:28
  to two lead and hold a ball at the top of the key for a whole
• 23:32
  quarter. That shit needs to stop now back
• 23:36
  to your regular schedule program.
• 23:37
  Hey, look, NIF. Hey, Tally.
• 23:40
  Look real quick. What's?
• 23:41
  Crazy I'm in the DMV with you here that DC, Maryland and
• 23:44
  Northern Virginia, right? DC and Maryland, right beside
• 23:48
  us, have shot clocks for high school basketball.
• 23:51
  You. Know what I know?
• 23:52
  But yet the VHSL last summer this past summer approved
• 23:57
  student athletes to get nil money, which I thought was
• 24:00
  insane because this is a conservative group of people
• 24:03
  that you won't get a shot clock. You get a shot clock.
• 24:07
  They get 40 seconds. Make it.
• 24:09
  Make it 60 seconds they. Get the shot clock.
• 24:11
  They don't. Care about the integrity of the
• 24:12
  game, man. They they they're worried about.
• 24:14
  You know they're. Worried about other shit?
• 24:15
  Oh boy. Things line in their pockets.
• 24:18
  Hey, let me ask you this. Dwight, one more question on NIL
• 24:21
  before we jump through the next subject.
• 24:23
  Next 10 years. How important is it for the
• 24:26
  program to have that right support staff like like, I mean
• 24:30
  are we going to have to have financial planners on staff for
• 24:34
  all the like, You just got a $80,000 that you need to go down
• 24:38
  there and see John. John knows what to help you do
• 24:40
  with the money, help you invest it.
• 24:42
  He'll tell you if it's a good purchase.
• 24:44
  I mean is that going to become we going to have like financial
• 24:48
  planners sitting on staff 10 years from now, you?
• 24:50
  Know you need it because here's the thing, you're getting money
• 24:52
  in college. You're getting money in high
• 24:53
  school, Curtis. And on top of it, I remember my,
• 24:56
  my, my cousin Mike was talking about.
• 24:58
  He was sitting in A room with Jim Kelly's brother, the great
• 25:01
  quarterback for the Buffalo Bills, and he said his, you
• 25:05
  know, his brother had a financial management company and
• 25:07
  they were also agents. And I was talking with Mike
• 25:10
  after the meeting. He was like, you know, they had
• 25:12
  flow charts and portfolios. Yeah, where we come from the 757
• 25:16
  then and and now we didn't grow up around that shit.
• 25:19
  We, we, I, I, I went to a public school, had to hide and get air
• 25:22
  conditioned until my senior year.
• 25:24
  We went to school. So if it was too hot we had to
• 25:27
  get out early. We had inhumane living
• 25:29
  conditions and and in regards to going to school it was very
• 25:32
  difficult and you're supposed to be in a conducive learning
• 25:34
  environment. We come, I don't get all deep
• 25:37
  like we come from the mud in the slums cause Virginia Beach and
• 25:40
  Chesapeake have some very great places to live and reside.
• 25:43
  So there's Hampton. I lived in the good neighborhood
• 25:45
  once we moved on Shell Rd. But my point being is, man, a
• 25:48
  lot of us then and now don't know unless you come from a home
• 25:52
  where you have family that teaches about four O 1 and 450
• 25:55
  sevens and portfolios and just saving your money and putting
• 26:00
  some aside. We just trying to get turned up
• 26:02
  and just get something in. A lot of times, man, even when I
• 26:05
  got a little bit of money, I got, I just send some back home,
• 26:08
  you know what I'm saying? And it's just the way it is and
• 26:10
  it's not even a black or white thing.
• 26:12
  It's just more so an awareness thing because there's some white
• 26:15
  people and other people that come from environments where
• 26:17
  they don't know. Either, but my point being is
• 26:19
  this. The game is changing and Price
• 26:22
  seems to have a good pulse on what's going on.
• 26:25
  And I've always felt that coaches that get ahead of stuff
• 26:28
  that look ahead, they'll set their players up to be straight.
• 26:33
  Because I can tell you right now, despite my complaining or
• 26:36
  my concerns, the money in college football and basketball
• 26:40
  is going to grow. It is.
• 26:42
  It's so funny how when we talk about recessions or whatever,
• 26:44
  when it comes to sports, the money's still there.
• 26:47
  It's just crazy. Matter of fact, I heard this
• 26:49
  morning on one of my sports shows, I listen to they talking
• 26:52
  about expanding the NCAA tournament again.
• 26:55
  Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
• 26:57
  And look, gambling. I know I got my parlays.
• 27:00
  You know, I'm on 5-6. Money is crazy right now, man.
• 27:04
  Like everybody's gambling. I know Shorty's in the gambling
• 27:07
  right now, man. It's crazy.
• 27:09
  So first, yeah, they're going to have to get that man, because.
• 27:12
  If you're going. To preach family, you're going
• 27:13
  to preach this. Is home.
• 27:14
  It's not just text if you're going to really want to look out
• 27:17
  for these young men, you know. We.
• 27:19
  You have your Jerrod Evans and you have your quarterbacks and
• 27:23
  your star players. You got Chyron, drones and all
• 27:27
  those guys who I think is going to be a Heisman candidate when
• 27:30
  it's all said and done. But you also have your middle of
• 27:33
  the pack players who are going to get a smaller deals and they
• 27:36
  need help. You know they need help.
• 27:38
  We need to what do I do with $30,000?
• 27:41
  You know what do I mean? For real?
• 27:42
  Think about when you are 19. What $30,000 would like 'cause I
• 27:46
  remember when my shit. I'm 38.
• 27:47
  And if I got I'm 38 and if I got 30,000 it's gonna get blue right
• 27:52
  now. Yo-yo, that's crazy.
• 27:55
  My cousin called me. I was living in Fairfax.
• 27:58
  I'd just gotten married in 2001. He was the first overall pick.
• 28:01
  I remember Mike called me and was like, yo, Dwight, man, come
• 28:03
  down and live with me. I'll take.
• 28:04
  Care of you. And he was just talking to me
• 28:06
  about the money he got. And then when I went down there
• 28:09
  about four years, five years later, he was the face of the
• 28:11
  league. This is when Brady and Manning
• 28:13
  was still playing and he was getting ready to sign a record
• 28:16
  contract. He was the highest paid player
• 28:18
  in the NFL. He was about to be.
• 28:20
  And I remember sitting with him, we were in Atlanta and we were
• 28:23
  in the gated community where Little Bow Wow Live, David
• 28:26
  Justice and Alley Berry win a ladder.
• 28:28
  Like, you can't even go in his neighborhood, right?
• 28:31
  We in there, me and him hanging out and I remember he showed me
• 28:34
  on his laptop just. Pulled it up, he said.
• 28:37
  Yo, sometimes I just stare at this man and there was his bank
• 28:40
  account. I remember seeing to this day.
• 28:42
  It's crazy. It's like seeing.
• 28:43
  The golden ticket you got from Willy Wonka, it was crazy,
• 28:46
  'cause I was looking at the screen, it was like $27 million
• 28:51
  and you go from getting per diem from Bruce and Berlin, $10 a
• 28:58
  week. That was the game money we got.
• 29:00
  Or bowl game money to $27 million, bro.
• 29:04
  That's crazy. Curtain.
• 29:05
  That's crazy. That's.
• 29:05
  Crazy. It's crazy.
• 29:07
  Shit. Well, you hit on.
• 29:08
  You was hitting on a lot of stuff, man.
• 29:10
  And I know, I know we ain't got you all night tonight.
• 29:13
  I know we got some other stuff to do.
• 29:14
  But we talked a couple things that no, you all good.
• 29:18
  You all good. I I I wanted to to chime in a
• 29:21
  little bit with the Triumph NIL that that Virginia Tech has.
• 29:28
  From what I hear, you know I'm just a fan.
• 29:30
  But reliable sources tell me that Triumph has Virginia Tech
• 29:36
  moving in the right direction. In the NIL.
• 29:38
  They said they already have people in place that are talking
• 29:42
  to kids about financial planning, which is awesome.
• 29:46
  So everybody, you know, you should feel good out there.
• 29:50
  I think we moving in the right direction.
• 29:52
  But Dwight, we want to get it, you know, change it up just a
• 29:56
  little bit, start talking some high school recruiting.
• 29:58
  You know what I'm saying, 'cause we know you are boots on the
• 30:01
  ground as far as knowing a lot of these kids, knowing knowing
• 30:05
  the areas and things like that. And you say it, you know a a few
• 30:09
  minutes ago that you feel like Pry had gotten out ahead of some
• 30:12
  things and he was doing some things right.
• 30:14
  So we've seen an uptick in recruiting in Virginia,
• 30:17
  specifically the 757. What is resonating right now?
• 30:21
  Like, what is he doing that's got got Virginia taking the
• 30:25
  uptick? You know what's crazy bro is.
• 30:29
  He's following Beamer's blueprint.
• 30:31
  He's making it more modern. I I kept saying all Fuente had
• 30:35
  to do was just evolve and build on Beamer's blueprint and make
• 30:39
  it more modern and, you know, get on social media, be more
• 30:43
  hip, talk to the fans and you know, we got this guy coming and
• 30:48
  roll out the red carpet. And I'm telling you, man, Prize
• 30:52
  is doing what makes sense, the crazy thing now.
• 30:54
  And it's crazy how quickly this thing is turned around between
• 30:58
  Triumph and the collectives and what you got going on with them
• 31:01
  and how they're connecting with the former players and the
• 31:05
  superstar former players and current players.
• 31:07
  And then you look at what Pry is doing.
• 31:09
  It's a really good hustle. Right now and hustle in a good
• 31:12
  way. It's a great marriage.
• 31:13
  Right now, Pry is making Virginia Tech hip again.
• 31:17
  Like, I I don't know how. I'm just telling you, I'm a
• 31:20
  Virginian and I remember in the 90s and even the early 2000s.
• 31:24
  When I was done playing, but I was still like a former player
• 31:27
  where I just finished playing. I was still playing some pro
• 31:30
  ball and working out for NFL scouts and doing arena ball.
• 31:33
  And when I went home in the 2000s or when I was in DC when I
• 31:38
  went to Chicago one time people knew about Tech.
• 31:41
  I remember I would have on Tech Sweatshu who on video games.
• 31:44
  This is back when East Bay was popping and when you went to,
• 31:48
  when you went to Virginia Beach, Chesapeake, New for News or the
• 31:50
  804 in Richmond, it was like, yo, I'm trying to go to Tech.
• 31:54
  Like you understand something, man.
• 31:56
  A lot of those guys we missed out on with Tech fans.
• 31:58
  Derek, Naughty, Josh Sweat, they were all Tech growing up.
• 32:03
  Smoke. Mizelle was a Tech fan.
• 32:05
  Andrew Brown was a Tech fan. I'm naming guys.
• 32:08
  We burned that thoroughbred bridge man.
• 32:13
  And and see again, that's funny you said that because Pry knows
• 32:17
  Coach Red and the coat boys. The coat boys are a group down
• 32:21
  to 757 that have tons of guys. In the 757 that only seven on
• 32:26
  seven teams that are really young in the upcoming studs and
• 32:30
  the truth of the matter is, is that they.
• 32:33
  No pride and they no tech. And he just for the lack of a
• 32:38
  better, you know, phrase or whatever, he's just making tech
• 32:40
  great again. He's making them hip like, and
• 32:42
  then we still have a long way to go to get back to where we want
• 32:45
  to. Because my goal, I'm surprised.
• 32:47
  The same goal is to exceed the expectations of just 10 and 11
• 32:51
  win seasons, but to be relevant to the point where when you wake
• 32:54
  up on Sunday morning, you expect to see us in.
• 32:56
  The top 15 top. 12 in the rain. So yeah, man, like.
• 32:59
  Kids are. The thing about it is, man, kids
• 33:01
  are checking for. Tech now, man.
• 33:04
  They're checking for tech like kids in in Norfolk.
• 33:07
  Like they're like yeah, I'm going to tech.
• 33:09
  You going to you got to understand something.
• 33:11
  I know the the true story Tom. Rod, tell us my.
• 33:14
  God. He played in my high school.
• 33:16
  We go for Hampton High Crabbers. He saw me play.
• 33:19
  I remember. Seeing Tom as a middle schooler.
• 33:22
  Throwing the ball at my neighbor's house, 'cause he was
• 33:24
  tight with their grandson and Tyrod knew.
• 33:27
  About tech and when Tyrod was being recruited, him and Ryan
• 33:31
  Williams and all that met up one time.
• 33:32
  I don't know if they would attract me or whatever, but they
• 33:35
  were somewhere. They were like, yo, I'm feeling
• 33:37
  tech, man. I'm going to go there like.
• 33:39
  You know, remember now, we used to be so cool.
• 33:41
  We had household names like Marcus Vick, Aaron Rouse and all
• 33:45
  those guys. And I remember we playing NC
• 33:47
  State one time on. A a Saturday night game.
• 33:50
  It was the 2005 season and we were at NC State first time
• 33:54
  playing them and I remember we scored a touchdown and Marcus
• 33:57
  and them pose like Marcus and Hyman and Justin Harper and all
• 34:02
  the guys on the end zone and they were posing, taking
• 34:04
  pictures and they were doing like this and they were doing
• 34:06
  like that. DJ Parker and all those guys.
• 34:10
  We had so many Virginians and they were just superstars in
• 34:13
  their own state. And it became, I remember Chris
• 34:17
  Chris Coleman for Tech sideline said Virginia Tech is Virginia's
• 34:21
  favorite team because you know, the Washington commanders then
• 34:25
  the Redskins were trash. They, you know, they were owned
• 34:28
  by Snyder. UVA was still rebuilding.
• 34:31
  They've been rebuilding for a long time and you know, Liberty
• 34:34
  didn't even have football or they were whatever.
• 34:36
  I don't even think they have football yet.
• 34:38
  OU didn't have football. We were the team, you know, and
• 34:41
  you had the entrance, You had the fan, the alumni and the one
• 34:44
  thing I want to say real quick and we can go to the next
• 34:46
  question, the alumni and fan base, despite this transition
• 34:50
  from Beamer to Fuente to Pry, they're one reason why we've
• 34:54
  been able to right the ship. Because as bad as we've been and
• 34:57
  underachieved as we've been, great podcasts like yours, Don
• 35:02
  V, all these other shows and the fan base cause Virginia Tech fan
• 35:06
  base on Twitter is lit all the time.
• 35:08
  It could be a Tuesday night and we're lit.
• 35:10
  So when we come, you give us a product that's worth watching.
• 35:13
  Last year at home, Virginia Tech was on fire.
• 35:16
  And so, yeah, Virginia Tech recruits.
• 35:21
  Virginia Tech recruits were there to see it like it.
• 35:24
  It felt that game against Syracuse felt so much like the
• 35:28
  overhyped Miami. Game when we hosted Percy Harvin
• 35:32
  and over 200 recruits. We went to bed that night.
• 35:35
  We didn't play well, but we had. So many people there because
• 35:38
  Virginia Tech was in the top three in the nation. #5 in me,
• 35:42
  you. Believe.
• 35:43
  Yeah. So, you know, just.
• 35:45
  I know what's the long. Answer, but I just feel like it
• 35:47
  was relevant to the to the question all.
• 35:49
  Right, Dwight, Real quick. I'm going to throw this in there
• 35:52
  before I throw out the Curtis give me because you always do
• 35:55
  this when you come on give me. I usually say one.
• 35:59
  I'm going to say two kids that we need to look out for.
• 36:04
  I ain't saying they going to Virginia Tech.
• 36:06
  I'm just say 2 Virginia kids. That's 25 kids that we need to
• 36:11
  be looking for. I don't have a cause.
• 36:14
  I've been in basketball mode. So OK with that next time we do
• 36:18
  our our season preview. But I do have a kid I'm very
• 36:22
  high on and it's going to sound like a Homer.
• 36:25
  But this kid, his name is Jackson Mccarter.
• 36:28
  And there's another kid. I got 2 for you, but one you
• 36:31
  probably heard of Jackson Mccarter.
• 36:33
  Is a running back. He is super fast.
• 36:36
  He runs track at Patriot, but he plays football.
• 36:39
  He was just there on a visit last week.
• 36:41
  You probably saw me retweet his teeth, his tweet.
• 36:44
  He is an animal. I'm telling you right now, he's
• 36:48
  a kid. One of those kids that's a
• 36:50
  Virginia Tech guy. Like he just, he can run the
• 36:54
  football and he gets out. You're not catching him.
• 36:56
  But the number one guy? I really wish we can land.
• 36:59
  I hope. We can land him.
• 37:00
  I've seen him play since he was nine years old.
• 37:03
  His name is Jeff Overton Junior. He played the Freedom
• 37:06
  Woodbridge. Oh yeah, we heard about it.
• 37:08
  We knew. I coached against him and youth
• 37:11
  ball. My son played against him.
• 37:14
  And then, of course, my son went to basketball.
• 37:15
  Jeff stuck with football. His dad won the state
• 37:18
  championship. His dad is his coach.
• 37:20
  His uncle just went back-to-back state championships at Freedom
• 37:24
  Woodbridge last this past season over my my brother Lauren
• 37:27
  Johnson at Highland Springs and then the previous year he won
• 37:33
  against. I forgot the team not
• 37:36
  Stonebridge but they they won back-to-back state championships
• 37:39
  and Jeffrey Overton junior. If you ever see his tape, he is
• 37:43
  going to. Remind you of Reggie Bush?
• 37:47
  He is. He is electric, he can cash, he
• 37:50
  can run and he is shifty and he is a playmaker.
• 37:53
  He has offers from NCI, mean NC State will probably.
• 37:56
  I know he has an offer from Ohio State and Clemson and.
• 37:59
  He's been to Tech a few times. Tech was just in with their
• 38:02
  entire staff, or at least five of them To meet with him a
• 38:05
  couple of months ago up here in the seven O 3, he is an animal.
• 38:08
  I'm telling you right now, Jeffrey Overton, Junior, he's a
• 38:13
  he is a game changer. He's a program changer.
• 38:16
  Remember, I said, Pride has to start.
• 38:18
  Stacking his Mount Rushmore recruits.
• 38:20
  That's the guy like you look with Tooting doing he he is
• 38:24
  Tooting already like Tooting with how he's all-purpose shards
• 38:28
  kickoff returns. Jeffrey Overton Junior is the
• 38:31
  same kind of back you get again like Brandon Orr the moment he
• 38:35
  touched and he's like boom, boom boom even better.
• 38:39
  Now here's the thing you got to keep recruiting him.
• 38:42
  That's when that NIO money I'm. I've never talked to his dad
• 38:46
  about his son. I don't do all that.
• 38:48
  I didn't get involved with Greg. Stroman's recruiting or Tim
• 38:50
  Settle juniors? But I will.
• 38:51
  Tell you you got to take care of him because he's going to have
• 38:54
  even more people on him. His his uncle just left freedom
• 38:56
  and he's coaching at Hay Field up in Alexandria now.
• 38:59
  But they're going to be a contended again for States
• 39:01
  because his uncle Darrell Overton is a phenomenal coach.
• 39:04
  He's an offers a genius and then the last guy I'll throw out
• 39:07
  there is a guy y'all probably are familiar with.
• 39:09
  Man is Peanut, Lauren Johnson's youngest son.
• 39:12
  He's a linebacker. He's one of those guys.
• 39:15
  Again you have his brother there Breeland at Tech but Peanut is
• 39:20
  even got more dog in him and he's got offers from Auburn SEC
• 39:25
  schools. He's a heart and soul of
• 39:27
  Highland Springs defense. And we got a little bit of a
• 39:30
  pipeline going with Holly Springs.
• 39:31
  I like that because those guys win.
• 39:34
  And I feel like what Beamer always did a great job of is
• 39:36
  getting winners. And one thing I know from.
• 39:38
  Even my son being. Recruited.
• 39:39
  Is that coaches that know how to coach like winners and talented
• 39:44
  players. So keep those names in your back
• 39:47
  pocket, man. I'm gonna keep in the back
• 39:49
  pocket. And he almost took my next
• 39:51
  question because give me this, because you talked about
• 39:55
  coaching winners. We know how many team captains,
• 39:57
  We know how many guys who are breaking state records, whether
• 40:00
  it be Virginia, North Carolina, other parts.
• 40:02
  But as guys who are sitting there on campus, do y'all notice
• 40:06
  that? Like, you know, like the way
• 40:09
  they carry themselves. Or like like for example, the
• 40:13
  running back from North Carolina who ran for 13.7 yards to carry
• 40:17
  down in North Carolina last year.
• 40:18
  Which is insane, Doesn't matter at the level.
• 40:20
  It's insane. You can do that.
• 40:22
  But when they walk in, what is that?
• 40:24
  Does it mean that the guys on the team see that and say that
• 40:28
  guy plays his heart out, he plays a dog, That guy's got a
• 40:31
  level head. He's our captain.
• 40:33
  That guy won two state titles. Do you think about that?
• 40:37
  When they come in? Or is it now you're down here
• 40:39
  now? Or is it how you come in and
• 40:41
  carry yourself? It's a level of you got to earn
• 40:44
  your spot here. But we know real recognize real.
• 40:48
  I know I hate y'all with the early 2000 hip hop reference,
• 40:50
  but you real recognize real like you recognize a dog when you see
• 40:55
  one. And we talk, I mean.
• 40:57
  Again, this is before social media, so I know they do it now.
• 41:01
  Everybody has that high school pride like we them Florida boys,
• 41:05
  even when they were on the team. We'll talk about Florida boys
• 41:07
  and high school players. When I was there, we talked
• 41:10
  about Ronald Curry and Mike Vick, everyone.
• 41:12
  Knew. Yo, big Victoria.
• 41:14
  Dwight. Victoria constantly talks about
• 41:16
  his cousin Mike. I told everybody that would
• 41:18
  listen. Y'all talking about Ronald
• 41:20
  Curry. And I love Ronald.
• 41:21
  He's one of the best quarterbacks in the history of
• 41:24
  the high school football. But you know when.
• 41:28
  You got a guy that comes in you like, yo, we got to get this
• 41:31
  guy. You know, listen, you know
• 41:33
  Curtis, when you're in practice. And you see a young guy you
• 41:37
  like, yo, man, he should be playing like the older guys
• 41:40
  whisper to each other. Like I remember texting coaches
• 41:44
  at Tech like, why the hell are you are not playing Wyatt Teller
• 41:48
  More start his ass. What are we doing?
• 41:51
  And then I got that BS. Well, you know, the guy who runs
• 41:53
  the senior and I'm like, man, Wyatt Teller is a Cyborg.
• 41:57
  He. Is an animal.
• 41:59
  He is. He's got that, you know and.
• 42:02
  Look, you Curtis, you talk to anybody.
• 42:04
  It's not even a Virginia Tech thing.
• 42:05
  You know when the car comes on his visit, it's not even about
• 42:08
  the look for the eye test. You just you.
• 42:10
  You especially now with with these things you see Twitter,
• 42:14
  you hear about people because everybody in the locker was
• 42:16
  like, yo, man, I got a cousin in Georgia, he's coming up here on
• 42:19
  a visit. He just won the.
• 42:21
  State 4 by 1. And he also hoops like guys knew
• 42:26
  about Logan Thomas before he got the Virginia Tech.
• 42:28
  Like you knew when Logan Thomas walked in, you had already heard
• 42:32
  about Logan Thomas because he was killing it.
• 42:34
  And a lot of times you hear about these guys because they're
• 42:38
  really good guys that especially during tech's heyday and what
• 42:41
  you see with prize, you know about them from the state
• 42:44
  championships. I remember seeing Greg Deutsch
• 42:48
  and I remember when Fuente first got to Tech.
• 42:50
  He was at the state semis when Lauren Johnson and were hosting
• 42:54
  Indian River and Indian River had a linebacker going to
• 42:56
  Alabama and then they had another linebacker coming to
• 42:59
  Tech. End up committing the tech, but
• 43:01
  Greg Doris put on the show and Greg Doris said please give me
• 43:05
  the tech offer. What's crazy about that is in
• 43:08
  that game you had Greg Doris, you wanted to go to Tech, you
• 43:11
  had Kevon Wallace, who won three national championships at
• 43:14
  Clemson, who wore #12 because of Lauren Johnson, and he wanted to
• 43:19
  come to Tech. And we didn't pull the trigger.
• 43:22
  So we went in high school and you're at Tech.
• 43:25
  You know about those dogs? In Virginia, Maryland and DCI,
• 43:29
  Remember Josh Morgan talking? About guys, he's younger than
• 43:32
  me, but I remember you meet guys that are, you know, spring game
• 43:35
  and you see the guys with those like passes on the sideline.
• 43:38
  He was like, yo, see that kid right there?
• 43:40
  From a Brian Edmonds, God rest his soul, told me about Macho
• 43:43
  Harris. Macho Harris was at the spring
• 43:46
  game and he said listen to that boy right there, Macho Harris.
• 43:51
  I said what's his name? He said Macho.
• 43:53
  I said what's his real name? Macho.
• 43:55
  So that's how So his name, that was his nickname, 'cause he was
• 43:59
  so good. We know his real name, he said.
• 44:01
  I Brian Edmonds and three other dudes from the eight O 4 from
• 44:04
  the Rich, Marion said. Look, if he come here, he's a
• 44:06
  game changer. And so you know about it and
• 44:09
  look what Macho did when the few guys that play both offense and.
• 44:12
  Defense would be so. You know, Curtis, you know, you
• 44:16
  know about those dogs on the way.
• 44:17
  You know, listen, you know when you get the guy, man.
• 44:20
  Look, I I'm going to tell you this.
• 44:22
  I know for a fact everybody in that locker.
• 44:25
  Room knew Drones should have been on the field earlier than
• 44:27
  when he was. Everybody.
• 44:28
  Oh, here we go. Everybody knew.
• 44:30
  Everybody knew. Everybody knew.
• 44:32
  Everybody knew. I'd be hit him up.
• 44:34
  I'll be we we already there. Let's go ahead and talk about 24
• 44:37
  three a little bit. I mean I know, I know you know
• 44:40
  that we were on record after the spring game saying start the.
• 44:43
  Band. Everybody on this podcast said
• 44:46
  it all right. Y'all do it.
• 44:49
  We did, you know, let's talk about that a little bit.
• 44:51
  You know, you get off to a slow start.
• 44:53
  You know, you, you, you start one quarterback, you're working
• 44:57
  another one in. How do you think in the locker
• 45:02
  room this played out? And you know, no one really
• 45:04
  hitting the panic button that early after a rough one and
• 45:07
  three start? Well hold hold on Dwight, before
• 45:10
  you even answer that, before you even answer that.
• 45:12
  We got to go back to 2022 in the when we when we talk about the
• 45:17
  Twitter space when when everybody was going to jump into
• 45:21
  the lake of fire and you had to talk everybody off the ledge
• 45:24
  with with with LJ. When we went down there and lost
• 45:27
  the ODU, got our ass beat, they stole our stuff.
• 45:30
  We got trapped in the elevator. It was just a bad night.
• 45:34
  You had people following you to your car talking jump.
• 45:37
  All of that stuff went down. You talked us off the ledge in
• 45:40
  2022. Now we going to go to 2023.
• 45:43
  Yep. You know we know what happened
• 45:45
  in 2022. We in 2023 what we start B1 and
• 45:49
  three, One and three. OK, we one and three.
• 45:53
  Now you take us to what? Big Victoria?
• 45:55
  What, Dwight? Well.
• 45:56
  I was checking in with people that I could check in with you
• 45:59
  and the word on the street was that it was time to see drones
• 46:02
  take over, the take over as the quarterback.
• 46:05
  And the truth of the matter is I was on the on the, on the my.
• 46:09
  I had the mindset of I'm a trust pride to the wheels fall off.
• 46:13
  I still trust pride, but I think it's one of those things where
• 46:16
  Brent pride, he's been on your show.
• 46:18
  He's one of those guys that takes ownership of his success
• 46:21
  but also of his mistakes and mishaps or misses.
• 46:23
  And I knew he was going to get it right.
• 46:26
  I think drones came in and Tyler, you talked about this on
• 46:29
  your on this pod with you guys and in the Twitter space is
• 46:32
  that, you know he came in even in that game against Purdue and
• 46:36
  showed us that he had the moxie and the right attitude.
• 46:39
  I think sometimes you have to figure things out, but I do
• 46:42
  remember when Tyrod got there and Tyrod was a five star, one
• 46:49
  of the few five stars Tech has gotten along with the Fuller
• 46:51
  brother. And Sean Glennon was a damn good
• 46:54
  quarterback. He won an ACC championship and
• 46:56
  he wanted some games, but everybody knew Tyronn.
• 47:00
  Tyrod Taylor was that dude. And I remember when we played
• 47:03
  LSU, the LSU players, Dorsey and those guys they went on, went to
• 47:08
  national championship. We had a chance that year to
• 47:10
  back into it because we finished third in the BCS that year, but
• 47:13
  LSU ended up winning first time in that that time frame era
• 47:17
  where national championship won the championship with two
• 47:19
  losses. But they said the game changed
• 47:23
  when Tyrod came in. Tyrod gave us our only score
• 47:26
  that night. We lost 44 to 7 at LSU and the
• 47:30
  truth of the matter is is that drones is cut from that same
• 47:33
  clause. I think it was evident when he
• 47:35
  came in. It was just an energy and he had
• 47:37
  an attitude. You saw him and Tyler, you
• 47:40
  talked about this and Curtis and B, you talked about it, how
• 47:43
  against Pittsburgh he was running up on linebackers and
• 47:45
  DBS and grilling them. And you know, he slammed that D
• 47:49
  tackle from Wake Forest and it was like, damn, he about that
• 47:52
  life. And to me, he's marketable.
• 47:56
  I have him right now and again on your show, I have him as a
• 48:00
  dark horse for a Heisman candidate.
• 48:02
  I think with everybody coming back at the offense and Tyler
• 48:04
  Bowen does what I know he's going to do.
• 48:08
  Turn loose, I felt. This way.
• 48:10
  Turn loose, he got. In the rhythm, so.
• 48:13
  I'm going to tell you all this too, man.
• 48:14
  I talk. I got a yeah, no, I got AI got A
• 48:17
  and I ain't nobody special. But like I said, Dwight is my
• 48:20
  uncle, man. I'm, I'm an honorary Victoria
• 48:24
  family member. If y'all didn't know that.
• 48:26
  So me and Dwight we talk a little bit more than maybe
• 48:28
  something y'all y'all need to get on my level, you know what
• 48:31
  I'm saying? I'm.
• 48:32
  Sorry. No, but for real, Dwight will
• 48:34
  hit me up on some stuff and that I'm not even paying to because
• 48:37
  I'm emotional about a game or something and Dwight says
• 48:40
  something, I'm going to air it out.
• 48:42
  So y'all, y'all getting some Nuggets that y'all might not
• 48:45
  know. Dwight told me last year
• 48:47
  whenever Kyron started playing, he wasn't starting really, you
• 48:53
  know what? He's he was playing and we kept
• 48:54
  doing that teetering thing where we didn't know if if Grant was
• 48:58
  coming back or Kyron was playing.
• 49:00
  And Dwight, text me and said, I'm looking at this.
• 49:03
  I'm looking at this young man, but he's after it was after a
• 49:07
  game or something. He said if they start endorsing
• 49:10
  him, he is a star. That's what he said.
• 49:14
  He's like once they come out and say he's our starting
• 49:17
  quarterback, you're going to see a change in this young man, not
• 49:21
  just his play, but everything about him.
• 49:24
  And when they started, I think profoundly came out and said,
• 49:27
  you know, he's the quarterback moving forward.
• 49:29
  And it was like the the light switch hit, you know what I'm
• 49:33
  saying? Kyron was already playing.
• 49:35
  He was already doing the stuff he could do.
• 49:36
  But you can see the confidence come, you can see the play calls
• 49:39
  come for him. You can see the the media start
• 49:42
  gravitating toward him. You can see him.
• 49:45
  Those 5050 balls start going our way.
• 49:48
  So I don't know man. Dwight might be what was the
• 49:51
  what was the lady name Did the old fortune teller that
• 49:54
  everybody. Is talking about Miss Cleo.
• 49:57
  Miss Cleo. He might be kidding to Miss
• 49:59
  Cleo, you know. Hey.
• 50:01
  I I I have a good track record. I always.
• 50:03
  Tweet it every now and then. I don't miss when.
• 50:05
  It comes to stuff I call. I called it with Greg Stroman.
• 50:07
  I called it with Eddie Royo. I said it about Mike Vick.
• 50:10
  Everything I said about my cousin Mike came to fruition.
• 50:13
  I feel so confident about drones.
• 50:15
  And here's the deal he He is special.
• 50:20
  I'm not going to get all you fork and talk about all time
• 50:22
  greats whatever. But he is just that missing
• 50:25
  piece and and going back to your question you guys asked me about
• 50:29
  like you know do guys know whatever.
• 50:32
  Even though these guys are young men they're still young adults.
• 50:34
  And what I mean is in high school you kind of do what the
• 50:37
  coach tells you but you kind of know man you know coach is
• 50:41
  tripping. You know it's the he's the
• 50:42
  better guy. You see it in shit like movies
• 50:43
  like Varsity Blues when you're like, yo man.
• 50:46
  Kilmore's tripping, you know what I'm saying?
• 50:48
  But when they get to Tech or whatever college, they're young
• 50:51
  adults and they know they're young men.
• 50:54
  And now with COVID and Nil and guys staying 567 years now.
• 50:59
  They are they really young men. They they are in their 20s and
• 51:04
  everybody knew. They whispered, they knew.
• 51:06
  And again. Ain't nothing against old boy
• 51:08
  that he replaced. It's just more so like he fits
• 51:10
  better. But we did.
• 51:13
  And Tyler Boyne, I think we forget.
• 51:14
  We got to give him the credit. He went and got him, we went.
• 51:18
  Tyler Boyne knew what he wanted. So yeah man, I'm.
• 51:23
  I'm. I am so excited now doing his
• 51:24
  podcast. I kind of been in basketball
• 51:26
  mode. I am so excited.
• 51:28
  About the fall. Well, we've been, well, we've
• 51:30
  been to get you a little bit more excited because I know we
• 51:32
  ain't got you long much longer here.
• 51:34
  But I do got to go to the 2024 season right quick and ask you,
• 51:38
  you know, a couple of things. But what I'm going to start
• 51:40
  with, I'm going to go a little bit out of order.
• 51:42
  I'm just going to start with you looked at the at the schedule,
• 51:46
  you've seen the schedule, There are some good games on the
• 51:48
  schedule. But you know, you being a big
• 51:50
  football guy, You being a big Virginia Tech guy, You being a
• 51:53
  big pry guy. What game or a couple of games?
• 51:59
  Does Pry really need to dig into the win to solidify his legacy?
• 52:05
  Great question. What you're saying is he needs
• 52:07
  that signature win that beam. Signature win?
• 52:10
  No. No, no, no he he needs that.
• 52:13
  He needs that signature win and the the fact of the matter is,
• 52:17
  is that. Can I say something, Dwight?
• 52:22
  What's going to be his 1995 Miami?
• 52:30
  Damn, which one could it be? This.
• 52:31
  Year we got we got Clemson at home we got Miami.
• 52:34
  If they place we got what who else we got Let me pull it up
• 52:38
  right quick. Oh we got Vanderbilt.
• 52:40
  I know these I'm just calling games that we got.
• 52:42
  We got Vanderbilt if they place. We got Miami if they place.
• 52:47
  We got Clemson at home. You know we got ODU if they
• 52:51
  place. OK, so I think, and this is a
• 52:56
  great question, I actually looked at the schedule and I
• 52:58
  thought about this because I'm a visionary and I I always do that
• 53:02
  manifestation stuff. I I, I've always done it.
• 53:04
  My son does the same thing too. It's a technique we both do.
• 53:08
  It works. If you really believe in it.
• 53:09
  I, I, I, I, I really feel like they're two games that stand
• 53:13
  out. And it's been like that since I
• 53:16
  followed schedule released a few months ago.
• 53:18
  And the truth of the matter is, is that some of it's going to
• 53:21
  take shape based on who's ranked and where we are as far as
• 53:25
  standings in the ACC. But the two games that stand out
• 53:28
  to me are Clemson and Miami. Because Clemson at home, if it's
• 53:32
  a night game or even A330 kickoff when they come out the
• 53:35
  locker room at halftime, it'll be dark.
• 53:37
  A Clemson game at home. Because Clemson, despite some of
• 53:41
  their their step backs in recent years, they're still considered
• 53:45
  the classic college football along with Alabama, Ohio State,
• 53:48
  Michigan and Alabama. And those guys, right?
• 53:52
  And dabble. If you remember, I know you 3.
• 53:54
  Remember you got historians like me.
• 53:57
  He took the torch. He took the torch.
• 53:59
  I was there in the stadium in Charlotte from Beemer and Foster
• 54:04
  In 2011, we were going for back-to-back ACC championships.
• 54:07
  They stubbed their toe coming into the conference championship
• 54:10
  game. We were ten and one after
• 54:13
  smashing UVA when David Wilson, Logan Thomas went crazy.
• 54:16
  They beat beat us 30 to something like it was a blowout
• 54:20
  and they never look back. They did get boat race by West
• 54:23
  Virginia in the Orange Bowl, but they never look back.
• 54:25
  They became the team in the ACC and we became a shell of
• 54:30
  ourselves. You know, teetering around 7:00
• 54:32
  and 6:00, six and six, six and seven.
• 54:34
  It was tough to watch. I think our game against Clemson
• 54:39
  is going to be a huge opportunity because Virginia
• 54:42
  Tech fans say we're like 6 and two or seven and two.
• 54:45
  I don't have the schedule in front of me going into that game
• 54:47
  or we're like ranked 24 or right there where we're still in the
• 54:51
  contention for the ACC. Blacksburg, the fans, the town,
• 54:56
  the podcast like yours and mine, we're going to do our part.
• 55:00
  The build up will be there. The one thing I said about
• 55:02
  Virginia Tech last year, which they did a better job late in
• 55:05
  the season, was they have to learn how to win and they have
• 55:09
  to learn how to handle success. Until they do that, they're
• 55:12
  going to continue to under under achieve and they started to
• 55:15
  learn how to handle success. One of the games I remember was
• 55:18
  going down to Boston College. They beat the brakes off.
• 55:20
  BCBC was A7 win team. When they did that they
• 55:24
  destroyed them. OK, they went to UVA and the
• 55:27
  ferry. Opponent in a rivalry game set a
• 55:30
  record for points and they destroyed UVA.
• 55:34
  That's never going to be a game. Outsiders going to be like, Oh
• 55:37
  my God, but we know what that game.
• 55:38
  Means for the state of Virginia and Pratt understood the meaning
• 55:42
  of it, even coming back that next day trolling holding a
• 55:45
  trophy in the picture of an office.
• 55:48
  So with that being said, man, Clemson is the game for me
• 55:51
  because Clemson is still considered the class of the ACC
• 55:55
  and beyond and you will turn some heads if you.
• 55:59
  I don't mean just win like. You know, for the win in the
• 56:03
  field goal and we win 2120. No, I mean like.
• 56:06
  How we did against Miami when Jacory Harris came in ranked 9th
• 56:09
  and we were ranked 11th and Tyrod and Jerry Boykin and Ryan
• 56:12
  Williams got this. Yeah, that that's what you need.
• 56:15
  You need. One of those games, and I think
• 56:17
  the Miami game is 1 because no matter, even though I I troll
• 56:21
  Miami, I clown them and they've got one bowl game-winning 1213
• 56:25
  years. They've never won the ACC
• 56:26
  outright or even they've only won the Coastal winning.
• 56:29
  We had Division One time. They're still Miami.
• 56:31
  They still have a name. And for me, you beat Miami at
• 56:37
  Miami, right? You beat Miami.
• 56:40
  On Friday night. Yeah, see, you beat Miami at
• 56:42
  Miami. Even if they're not the Miami
• 56:46
  during my time, they still Miami.
• 56:49
  Those are two wins. But again.
• 56:51
  Just to bring it full. Circle Signature wins sometimes
• 56:55
  happen in bowl games. They happen against a team that
• 56:59
  you may not think like. In 95 we knew UVA.
• 57:02
  Was going to be good. We were in two different
• 57:04
  conferences. It was probably.
• 57:07
  The. One of the better robberies in
• 57:09
  the nation at the time. It's not now, but we didn't know
• 57:12
  they were going to be Florida State for the first time in
• 57:14
  history. We didn't know that they were
• 57:15
  going to be the best team in the ACC along with Florida.
• 57:18
  State and we didn't know we were going to be a top ten team in
• 57:21
  the nation. We started off O and two that
• 57:23
  year, so that's the beauty of college football.
• 57:25
  As the element of supplies. So as much as I want to say
• 57:28
  Clemson and Miami, we just don't know.
• 57:30
  A signature win sometimes happens in a bowl game, like I
• 57:33
  said a few minutes ago, where it happens when and you know, you
• 57:37
  play a team that is, you know, having a historic run, you know,
• 57:41
  and you didn't, you didn't realize that.
• 57:43
  But beating Miami on a Friday night, I know high school
• 57:48
  football is still big and, you know, and across the country,
• 57:50
  but that'll be a game you win in Miami, win the game on the road,
• 57:56
  You know, seeing. Proud walk to the locker.
• 57:58
  Room holding up his first and waving to the tech fans that are
• 58:00
  going to be there and then everybody jumping up and down in
• 58:04
  drones, walking off with his helmet in his hand, looking,
• 58:06
  smiling with that smiley guy. Then you come back a few weeks
• 58:10
  later, you beat Clemson to secure secure a spot in ACC
• 58:14
  Championship game. Or it might be a.
• 58:18
  Situation where you win the ACC. If you F around and win the ACC
• 58:23
  in your third year, now it's a win you now you put everybody on
• 58:29
  notice because even though the ACC suing itself.
• 58:32
  And you got all this stuff about rumors or whatever.
• 58:35
  It's still a credible conference.
• 58:36
  It's still a Power 5 conference and it's still a conference
• 58:38
  championship. I don't give a damn if it's the
• 58:40
  70s, eighties or right now, a conference championship.
• 58:43
  It's. Still, an automatic big
• 58:45
  conference. You hey, you win the.
• 58:46
  You win the, you win the ACC, man.
• 58:48
  It's playoff time. Playoff time, baby.
• 58:50
  Yeah, but that's what I'm going to say.
• 58:52
  That's what I'm going to say to go along with.
• 58:53
  Real quick, real quick, real quick.
• 58:54
  Charlie. The thing about it is, is that I
• 58:57
  know I love how Don V said what we lying about the day and we
• 59:00
  telling lies. I'm not even on some euphoric
• 59:02
  shit. I'm not even on some.
• 59:04
  Oh yeah, you know, 'cause. You guys know I'm.
• 59:06
  I'm pretty rational. I'm the voice of reason.
• 59:08
  But the one thing I know about these kids now is the kids in
• 59:12
  that locker room, They believe, They believe.
• 59:16
  Like you had everybody back for the bowl game.
• 59:20
  Ain't been but a few guys in the portal.
• 59:23
  And those guys should have left. They need to leave, man.
• 59:25
  Drones and them believe, man. I'm telling you, I've been a
• 59:28
  player. I know what it's like when you
• 59:30
  believe my son. I I talked to him.
• 59:34
  It's something about watching a young man or young woman.
• 59:35
  When they play sports, they believe.
• 59:37
  You see it with South Carolina and Don Staley.
• 59:39
  You see it when championship mindsets take over.
• 59:43
  They believe. When I was at Tech.
• 59:44
  It's so crazy, guys. Because we won 90.
• 59:47
  Percent of our games and many times we believe either we were
• 59:50
  down 14 we believe man and I just feel like these guys
• 59:54
  believe man they like they don't even look at tech like on some
• 59:58
  you know we hope we win or whatever not last year there was
• 1:00:01
  some tough moments you know growing things against
• 1:00:03
  Louisville that was tough to watch Florida State we kind of
• 1:00:06
  made a a little run at the end we know we're going into it was
• 1:00:10
  A1 possession game but we we didn't score whatever.
• 1:00:14
  But those to me are growing pains in life, lessons I I feel
• 1:00:17
  like. Right now, man, this spring is
• 1:00:19
  so critical. So go ahead, Tyler.
• 1:00:21
  You want to make a point. Yeah, no, I was going to say,
• 1:00:26
  just to speak on a little bit of what you said talking about
• 1:00:28
  Miami, that makes it a little bit more interesting.
• 1:00:32
  First of all, we play Rutgers the week before, which is going
• 1:00:34
  to be a very physical game. It don't matter if they roll me
• 1:00:37
  and my grandma out on the field, Rutgers is going to be physical.
• 1:00:40
  That that's just, that's what my grandma, she passed away.
• 1:00:43
  God wrestle. So if if, if, if she don't know
• 1:00:47
  if he, whoever he rolls out on the field they're going to play
• 1:00:49
  hard and they going to hit you. So we play them and then the
• 1:00:53
  next week we go and play Miami. Now when you think about Miami
• 1:00:56
  this year they got Cam Ward down there.
• 1:00:59
  So Kyron wanted to he wanted to start some stuff up.
• 1:01:03
  Kyron done went and worked out with Cam Ward and Shador Sanders
• 1:01:08
  and if you go watch that because I, I, I done dug into it, man.
• 1:01:11
  I don't watch the the tapes probably four times Cam talking
• 1:01:15
  a little junk to to Kyron. He said he said something to the
• 1:01:19
  effect of all you. That ain't how you throw that.
• 1:01:22
  And then Kyron told him, he said I won my bowl game and then Cam
• 1:01:28
  said something like, well you had to run 250 yards when you
• 1:01:31
  get. And then I think Chador chimed
• 1:01:33
  in and said something like you know the second year of them
• 1:01:37
  hits start, you start feeling them hits And Kyron didn't say
• 1:01:40
  nothing. He just looked at him like, and
• 1:01:42
  I'm looking at his face like y'all don't know who you talking
• 1:01:45
  to #1 and #2, y'all are in Miami.
• 1:01:49
  But Kyron has his receivers there Ally and and Quan was
• 1:01:53
  there and they you know, the cameraman went to Quan and was
• 1:01:55
  like, hey man, tell us your name and there was no partying on
• 1:01:59
  Quan's face. Quan was like Quan.
• 1:02:03
  He didn't say the Quan Felton, Virginia Tech.
• 1:02:06
  He said Quan and that was it and went back to catch him.
• 1:02:10
  Hey, the boys mean businessman and I'm telling them what we're
• 1:02:13
  going to start hearing around that that Miami game is, you
• 1:02:18
  know you got Heisman candidate Cameron Ward and depending on
• 1:02:23
  how our season's going and and and dark host candidate Kyron
• 1:02:26
  drones, that could potentially be a big match up and now.
• 1:02:31
  I feel like I I I I. Listen, I am I I I I I don't.
• 1:02:37
  I can't explain to y'all I'm not on no Homer shit.
• 1:02:40
  I'm just telling y'all man. Like drones is that dude.
• 1:02:44
  I'm telling you I can't I I don't miss.
• 1:02:46
  I I said the same thing when I saw my cousin play long before
• 1:02:51
  Jam you. I saw it in practice and it was.
• 1:02:53
  I remember telling my girlfriend then now my wife.
• 1:02:56
  I was like Shanice Mike is that guy, bro.
• 1:02:58
  Like I can't explain it. And it's something about people
• 1:03:01
  in sports. You you you you can't.
• 1:03:04
  Describe it I You know what? I'm a chill.
• 1:03:08
  I know y'all got one last question before I jump off.
• 1:03:10
  I cannot wait. I wasn't even really this height
• 1:03:12
  for the season until I came on tonight, man.
• 1:03:15
  I'm just, I was like, Oh, yeah, you know, we.
• 1:03:17
  Don't chop it up. Talk about spring.
• 1:03:18
  And now I'm like, damn. And we get this September.
• 1:03:21
  Oh, I'm ready. Yeah.
• 1:03:24
  All right, man. And I know, I know, we got
• 1:03:26
  another question, but we got some dude like new king under
• 1:03:29
  score. Yeah, Miami.
• 1:03:30
  Fans water. Yeah, he keep chiming in and
• 1:03:32
  he's telling me about all these people.
• 1:03:35
  Man, listen, we do not give a fuck about Miami.
• 1:03:39
  This is a Virginia Tech podcast. There's nobody on Miami's team
• 1:03:43
  that we ever been scared of. Fuck you talk about like anybody
• 1:03:47
  that y'all have ever had on your team.
• 1:03:49
  We don't give a fuck about that. I don't care if the only bang we
• 1:03:53
  would be scared of is if you got banged.
• 1:03:54
  It broke Batman's back. If y'all ain't got him.
• 1:03:57
  What we talking about? So hey, we going to see.
• 1:04:02
  We we going to see. Come.
• 1:04:03
  On man, Stop. Miami.
• 1:04:04
  Look, they will always be back. They will always talk.
• 1:04:08
  I love it. You know, to me, I was just on
• 1:04:09
  my. Front last night.
• 1:04:11
  Miami was more of our rival than UVA Miami and then West
• 1:04:15
  Virginia. We never, really.
• 1:04:16
  Had that kind of energy with UVA even when we were both ranked
• 1:04:20
  and there was a lot of trash talking ahead.
• 1:04:22
  Anthony Poindexter, it was intense.
• 1:04:24
  But Miami and West Virginia brought that dog out of us to a
• 1:04:28
  level where it was nasty. I I love playing Miami.
• 1:04:31
  I love when they're good and we're good.
• 1:04:33
  Cause to me the ACC did get that right.
• 1:04:35
  When they renewed that rivalry and made it every year and I I
• 1:04:39
  love it, we going, you know, we going, we going to revisit that,
• 1:04:41
  you know, shout out to that fan, I get it.
• 1:04:43
  But every year y'all supposed to be back and y'all supposed to be
• 1:04:46
  doing this. And again, y'all haven't won one
• 1:04:48
  bowl game in 1314 years. Y'all have.
• 1:04:51
  Man we don't get we going to get new king to God on here and we
• 1:04:54
  going to talk some we going to talk some football The week of
• 1:04:58
  the Miami game It's all love, man.
• 1:05:00
  It's all love. I'm I'm glad.
• 1:05:01
  I'm glad he ripping. That means y'all, look, look,
• 1:05:04
  that's y'all look, that's y'all podcast, bro.
• 1:05:08
  You know what I'm saying? That's that's you.
• 1:05:09
  Don't get him on here. That when you got haters and you
• 1:05:12
  got fans from other schools, that's a good thing.
• 1:05:14
  That means you're branching out and growing.
• 1:05:16
  That's a good thing. Shout out to that guy, man.
• 1:05:18
  I love it. I love it.
• 1:05:20
  You talk. About drones going down to Miami
• 1:05:22
  now like you know who's. Going to be.
• 1:05:24
  Trading Who's going to be trading in late February in
• 1:05:26
  Virginia? Come on, he just talking, man,
• 1:05:28
  Man told me. That's the reason they came to
• 1:05:29
  Miami. You don't have any bolts and
• 1:05:31
  holes in in Miami during this time.
• 1:05:38
  The boys on that, the boys on that with their shirts off and
• 1:05:43
  everything. Yeah, I would have been in Miami
• 1:05:44
  too. What you talking about?
• 1:05:46
  I would have been out there with my shirt off.
• 1:05:48
  That's. What?
• 1:05:49
  That's what After Dark podcast, right?
• 1:05:52
  There, right? That's right.
• 1:05:54
  Yeah, he used a lot to do down there.
• 1:05:59
  Brian, I think you had some before before the White House to
• 1:06:02
  hop off. Yeah, I mean this, this is the
• 1:06:04
  big one. I mean we got a got a spring
• 1:06:06
  game coming up on April 13th. Are we going to see you there?
• 1:06:09
  We going we going to have some good times in in Blacksburg.
• 1:06:12
  Oh. Man, it's so funny.
• 1:06:13
  I was just talking to my my son and my wife about this because I
• 1:06:17
  got, I got so many experiences. If I come to be a part of, I
• 1:06:20
  love the spring game. You know, until Puente took
• 1:06:22
  over, I went to the spring game fourteen straight times.
• 1:06:25
  I never missed one and then maybe more than that And then
• 1:06:28
  you know there was a couple years with him.
• 1:06:30
  I I started boycotting it not even on some boycotting tech but
• 1:06:34
  it was just it didn't feel right.
• 1:06:36
  You know it's like you know when you and your girl trying to
• 1:06:38
  reconcile but you know it ain't right no more but it feels right
• 1:06:42
  now, man. And and and I love tech.
• 1:06:44
  I love going back to Southwest Virginia.
• 1:06:47
  So to answer to that is as of right now the plans to come
• 1:06:49
  back. I got to get my room or
• 1:06:52
  something. But yeah man, I'm, I'm planning
• 1:06:56
  to come. The only reason if I don't come
• 1:06:57
  and over because my son has AAU game, but I think you can live
• 1:07:03
  stream it. Plus, man, he bought to be 18,
• 1:07:05
  so he don't need me there. I don't even go.
• 1:07:06
  I didn't even get his games last year, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:07:09
  So Nah, man, the plans to be there, BI mean a lot of guys are
• 1:07:14
  coming back like they always do and I think prying them have
• 1:07:18
  done a great job reconnecting with the alumni.
• 1:07:20
  I love going back. You know, it's funny.
• 1:07:21
  I played. Our last game was in Tech was
• 1:07:24
  against Alabama in 98. Our last home game was in 98.
• 1:07:28
  I've been played in since 1998 as far As for Tech and Hokey
• 1:07:32
  Nation shows me love, man. Like, it's crazy, bro.
• 1:07:35
  Like going back, I feel like a star.
• 1:07:38
  Like I get pictures and selfies. I sign so many footballs and I
• 1:07:44
  met my wife there. My cousins went there.
• 1:07:46
  My cousin I I say this every time I'm on your show, man.
• 1:07:48
  It's a family affair, man. Like, it's just a great place.
• 1:07:52
  It was some of the best five to six years of my life.
• 1:07:55
  And thank God we didn't have social media, because we did
• 1:07:57
  some wild stuff too. And I don't mean that.
• 1:08:00
  Nothing, nothing illegal. I don't want to get cancelled.
• 1:08:04
  College man. Nothing crazy, man.
• 1:08:07
  But lived in Fox Ridge Terrenceville Collegiate.
• 1:08:09
  Suites. Oh man, you did them all.
• 1:08:11
  Then you lifted up. I lifted up.
• 1:08:14
  Look, bro. That's back in the day when that
• 1:08:16
  energy, man, I go to bed at 3:00 in the morning, man, and wake up
• 1:08:18
  at 7. And and that's back when I could
• 1:08:21
  eat whatever when I was in shape.
• 1:08:22
  Now, man, I got to be careful. I don't even eat.
• 1:08:24
  Eat ice cream no more, man. I'll be done.
• 1:08:27
  That's back when Blacksburg allowed gatherings, right?
• 1:08:30
  I saw that, yo. I saw this crazy bro.
• 1:08:34
  You know what, man? I told y'all anyway, I got to
• 1:08:37
  jump off, man, I I love. Y'all I really do.
• 1:08:40
  I can't tell. Y'all shout out to all of y'all
• 1:08:42
  man. Y'all keep supporting this
• 1:08:44
  Boundary Corner podcast, man. Three of the best brothers out
• 1:08:47
  here. Y'all doing enough for Virginia
• 1:08:49
  Tech sports, especially the football program.
• 1:08:52
  Curtis B Tally, man, I love Y'all to death, man.
• 1:08:56
  Y'all really bring everybody together.
• 1:08:59
  And the thing about y'all hold us accountable.
• 1:09:01
  Yet you give great insight, great guests.
• 1:09:03
  I'm always on it every time B texts.
• 1:09:05
  And I'm like, all right, let me make my let me make this
• 1:09:07
  schedule work. I got lots of what I do tonight.
• 1:09:09
  I'm going to make this work. Can I can I say something real
• 1:09:11
  quick? Thank you for jumping on in
• 1:09:13
  December, because you hopping on in the middle of that chaos was
• 1:09:18
  Absolutely Fabulous 'cause I'm. I'm I'm feeling.
• 1:09:21
  Good. Over here.
• 1:09:22
  I'm going to text. Dwight.
• 1:09:23
  Dwight, can you get on? It's like 11:00 at night.
• 1:09:26
  Give me 5, Kurt. I'll be there.
• 1:09:28
  Pop on screen. It's like, oh man.
• 1:09:31
  Yeah, you know, I don't have. AI don't have a favorite team
• 1:09:34
  anymore except tech. Like, I grew up a Washington
• 1:09:38
  Skins fan and when Snyder took over, I just kind of fell back.
• 1:09:42
  I play fantasy football, do parlays.
• 1:09:45
  NBA is more of a player. So I have players I check for
• 1:09:48
  and you know, I like watching Jason Tatum and other guys
• 1:09:50
  Curry. It's great to watch.
• 1:09:51
  But when it comes to Tech, man, y'all got to understand
• 1:09:54
  something, bro. When when we lost in Boston
• 1:09:57
  College, man, we were #3 or number something in the nation
• 1:09:59
  and we lost to that last minute with Matt Ryan or we lost those
• 1:10:03
  games that we shouldn't have won.
• 1:10:05
  You know, for me, it sits with me.
• 1:10:07
  It hurts my spirit like it it because it you know, it's my
• 1:10:10
  squad, bro. Like you know I helped built
• 1:10:12
  that. Like you will never catch me at
• 1:10:14
  a pro game fighting with a Raiders fan.
• 1:10:16
  I don't care. I'm there just to watch the game
• 1:10:18
  and make for my. Parlay hit, but with tech, it
• 1:10:21
  means too much, man. That's why I was on Sally's
• 1:10:24
  part. Twitter live that night, man.
• 1:10:26
  Till damn near 3 in the morning. I really was like, we weren't
• 1:10:29
  there. Like because I didn't do it just
• 1:10:34
  for pride. And Virginia Tech, I did it
• 1:10:35
  because. I needed the fans to calm down
• 1:10:38
  because we were on that pod, because we love tech that that
• 1:10:42
  live. Wouldn't.
• 1:10:42
  We were ready to blow. Yeah, we people would talk.
• 1:10:45
  It was. It was anarchy.
• 1:10:47
  I mean, it was. Crazy people were like.
• 1:10:48
  Yeah, man, but. But.
• 1:10:49
  We we wrote. We wrote it out.
• 1:10:52
  And you know, God bless everybody, man.
• 1:10:54
  I appreciate y'all for real. I appreciate you, brother.
• 1:10:57
  Appreciate. Appreciate.
• 1:10:59
  Yeah, Yes, Sir. So y'all do with the great work,
• 1:11:01
  man, I will catch y'all the next one.
• 1:11:03
  Of course, when y'all go live again, I'll be there with my.
• 1:11:06
  Comments at the bottom doing my thing.
• 1:11:09
  We'll throw them up, man. We'll keep it moving, man.
• 1:11:11
  Appreciate you, Dwight. Appreciate you, Dwight.
• 1:11:13
  Tell Isaiah. Keep doing this thing.
• 1:11:15
  Yeah, man, keep with some prayer.
• 1:11:16
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  All righty, we are back. We got a couple more things
• 1:12:49
  we're going to hit before we wrap up here tonight.
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  Y'all it came out today and I just wanted to hear my two guys
• 1:12:55
  opinions. Clemson has effectively joined
• 1:12:58
  Florida State and suing the ACC. I don't think I'm not shocked,
• 1:13:03
  Brian, Tally, y'all got anything on it.
• 1:13:05
  I'm not shocked. I think they were going to be
• 1:13:07
  the the next domino always. That was kind of what we
• 1:13:11
  expected from the jump. Them maybe UNC kind of a, you
• 1:13:15
  know, potential to throw their name in there, maybe Miami.
• 1:13:18
  But Clemson was always from a revenue standpoint going to be
• 1:13:22
  the team that can make the most noise at the top end of the ACC.
• 1:13:26
  So they're going to obviously be the ones that would have the
• 1:13:29
  most grievances under the current current rules, the
• 1:13:32
  modified rules that we're moving into.
• 1:13:36
  Though it doesn't surprise me. I'm interested to see the
• 1:13:41
  lawyers for FSU versus the lawyers for Clemson because
• 1:13:43
  Clemson is taking a slightly different angle with their
• 1:13:47
  argument. So and I think might be a more
• 1:13:50
  effective angle with their argument, but we'll see what the
• 1:13:55
  powers that be rule on there. But it's very interesting the
• 1:13:59
  way they're approaching this thing.
• 1:14:01
  Yeah, and Clemson was a lot more quiet about it, too.
• 1:14:04
  Yeah, Florida State was ramping up and they was woofing a lot.
• 1:14:07
  You know what I'm saying? They had a lot to say before
• 1:14:09
  they actually pull the trigger. Clemson just kind of did it.
• 1:14:12
  So you know it is what it is. And you know, just added fuel to
• 1:14:16
  the fire with the way the whole College Football Playoff shit
• 1:14:19
  went down this year. So yeah, they they were already
• 1:14:21
  gassed up before that and you just threw the fuel on that
• 1:14:23
  fire. So they they were definitely
• 1:14:25
  coming at it from a very vitriol standpoint.
• 1:14:30
  Whereas Clemson is very much like all right, we're we're,
• 1:14:33
  we're kind of laying it out here step by step.
• 1:14:37
  It it they seem to be a little more methodical with their
• 1:14:39
  approach. Methodical, but the one
• 1:14:41
  methodical thing that I, I do think that I don't know why
• 1:14:44
  they're barking up this tree and I and I talked to Tally me and
• 1:14:48
  we were talking about it before we jumped on tonight was the
• 1:14:51
  whole, well, this is too big of a, this is too much money to get
• 1:14:55
  out of a conference and it's like well did you sign it?
• 1:14:58
  Well yeah we did. OK, That's like signing the non
• 1:15:01
  disclosure and non compete with a company, right.
• 1:15:04
  Hey, this company wants me for $300,000.
• 1:15:06
  You did a non compete, you can't do that.
• 1:15:08
  You do that. We're going to sue the pants off
• 1:15:09
  you. Like you can't sit here and say
• 1:15:12
  it's too much when you literally signed the document saying it
• 1:15:15
  was that much because clearly at that point in time it won't too
• 1:15:18
  much to you. But now, now it's too much
• 1:15:19
  because I want to leave. That's the only part of their
• 1:15:23
  like release that makes no sense.
• 1:15:26
  Like if you leave that off there, like you said Brian, it's
• 1:15:29
  more methodical, but that piece doesn't make sense to anybody,
• 1:15:32
  doesn't make sense to me thinking in a in a legal or
• 1:15:35
  business sense. Well, I think, I think the, the,
• 1:15:37
  the one thing they're doing that may be smart is that they're
• 1:15:40
  breaking it up into two different arguments, right.
• 1:15:43
  So they're breaking it up into the exit fee and then the
• 1:15:48
  rights. Yeah.
• 1:15:49
  So combined those are worth about 600 million, but broken
• 1:15:53
  apart, the exit fee is only about 180.
• 1:15:57
  Somewhere in there, yeah, somewhere in that ballpark.
• 1:16:00
  So by breaking it out, you know, the judge might rule, you know,
• 1:16:04
  affirmatively for them on one end and not on the other, which
• 1:16:07
  might give them a little more leverage with whatever their
• 1:16:10
  potential landing spot might be as far as new conference and
• 1:16:13
  what they're willing to pony up in order to get them out and
• 1:16:18
  into their conference. It's true.
• 1:16:21
  All right, I'm looking up at the TV here.
• 1:16:23
  Let's jump on this thing because I don't think they can blow this
• 1:16:25
  lead. Tech's up 7256 NIT first round
• 1:16:29
  and home, so looking like they're going to.
• 1:16:32
  It's less than a minute. I think we're good.
• 1:16:35
  You. Sure, about that.
• 1:16:37
  You know if they if they pull it off, you know props to them
• 1:16:39
  because 16 points and 49 seconds.
• 1:16:43
  Is they deserve. They deserve to win if they do
• 1:16:46
  that, don't they? Yeah, they do.
• 1:16:48
  Yeah, they do. But I don't think that's going
• 1:16:49
  to happen because you know, we even got the Subs out there.
• 1:16:53
  But I mean, at least we got any niti mean, I, you know, it's
• 1:16:59
  it's tough to get up for like that you the only thing you hope
• 1:17:03
  is there's not many guy, the only person leaving Sonic
• 1:17:06
  Couture, right? That's the only person that can
• 1:17:11
  cannot come back, yeah. Cannot come back because that.
• 1:17:13
  That might be a better way to phrase it.
• 1:17:14
  There you go. We don't have a look on that,
• 1:17:17
  but that's the only upside is maybe you get somebody like play
• 1:17:20
  Tyler Nichols some more because we saw at times this year tally
• 1:17:23
  you can shake your head. Yeah, when Tyler Nichols, there
• 1:17:26
  were a couple games where I like.
• 1:17:27
  Tyler Nichols. That kid, that kid can play and
• 1:17:29
  he's coming off the bench and I'm sure there are times Tally's
• 1:17:31
  like you start him. And MM Young is, I think Mike
• 1:17:36
  Young is a good coach. He's a very systems coach and he
• 1:17:39
  looks for system players. So system players sometimes are
• 1:17:44
  more fundamental than they are athletic.
• 1:17:47
  Yeah. Again, I'm not saying that I
• 1:17:49
  know anything more than he does because he is a good coach.
• 1:17:52
  He's been coaching for a long time.
• 1:17:54
  But I can tell you in the ACC some of those old systems and
• 1:17:58
  fundamentals will lose you games when you're playing against
• 1:18:02
  these big physical athletic guards that you're going to pay
• 1:18:06
  against from Miami, Boston College, you know Duke, North
• 1:18:11
  Carolina and that. I mean it just it's it's tough
• 1:18:16
  man. So I I I would love for him to.
• 1:18:21
  I mean he could have capitalized well.
• 1:18:22
  He did capitalize on some of the success he had.
• 1:18:25
  But that we can't keep anybody in Blacksburg, you know what I'm
• 1:18:28
  saying? We get somebody and we think
• 1:18:29
  that pretty decent and next thing you know they're gone or
• 1:18:33
  you know they don't even start the start the season.
• 1:18:35
  So I don't know, man. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's been
• 1:18:39
  frustrating to watch. I think, you know, to your
• 1:18:41
  point, Talley, like when we do get a couple of those guys that
• 1:18:44
  can be bigger or more more physical and more athletic, we
• 1:18:49
  we tend to not be able to hold on to them.
• 1:18:51
  And then, you know, we're kind of taking one step forward, 2
• 1:18:56
  steps back with the way the roster management is.
• 1:18:59
  And I think that's probably hurt us more than anything, is roster
• 1:19:02
  management has been so inconsistent that we can't
• 1:19:05
  really lean on anyone but some of these more fundamental guys
• 1:19:10
  that you know, we're going to stick around because they fit
• 1:19:11
  what Mike Young's trying to do schematically.
• 1:19:14
  Right. Yeah.
• 1:19:15
  But that is what it is. They'll play Ohio State.
• 1:19:18
  I assume that'll be what's today.
• 1:19:21
  Today is Tuesday, Thursday, Tuesday.
• 1:19:25
  All right, let's roll on, ladies.
• 1:19:27
  Got a four seed. They'll be playing at home this
• 1:19:29
  weekend. I I did not see the whole thing.
• 1:19:34
  I called pieces of it. There's potentially Kitley could
• 1:19:38
  play, which tells me she did not tear because my assumption was
• 1:19:43
  going to be this. If that thing was torn as soon
• 1:19:46
  as they got to four seed, they would just say it right.
• 1:19:50
  There's there's nothing left to hide.
• 1:19:51
  Yeah. Chips are on the table.
• 1:19:54
  I mean at at this point I mean. What are you trying to hide from
• 1:19:56
  a 13 seed? They going to figure it out real
• 1:19:59
  quick, practicing in Blacksburg that she ain't going to be
• 1:20:01
  there. So.
• 1:20:04
  So maybe it's just a terrible sprain and it's, I mean I got to
• 1:20:08
  pull up the the bracket here because I know we're playing
• 1:20:10
  Marshall. Who's the five?
• 1:20:13
  Brian, do you have that up? Or I can get it up.
• 1:20:18
  Because either way, you know you, you feel it.
• 1:20:22
  It just hurts because you know they got a legitimate shot.
• 1:20:25
  If she's fully healthy, not only to win two weeks ago, but to go
• 1:20:28
  deep again and that's where it. Irritates you.
• 1:20:33
  Yeah. I think that's the biggest thing
• 1:20:34
  is that, you know, you know that there's that potential there and
• 1:20:38
  it's hard to see if they're going to be able to live up to
• 1:20:41
  that potential without her in the lineup.
• 1:20:45
  And we saw some up and down stuff with in the ACC tournament
• 1:20:48
  from you know, being able to sustain without her in the line
• 1:20:53
  up. So it's going to be interesting.
• 1:20:55
  I think Kenny said something to the effect of if she didn't have
• 1:21:00
  a future going forward then they might have tried her in maybe
• 1:21:06
  like the last game or something she tried to play.
• 1:21:09
  He said something to that effect, but.
• 1:21:11
  Some of the ACC. Championships.
• 1:21:13
  Yeah. But because of because they know
• 1:21:15
  she has a future in basketball, they don't want to risk
• 1:21:18
  anything, you know, with they want to make sure that she's
• 1:21:21
  fine before she steps back on the court.
• 1:21:24
  So I'm hoping that that ain't just coach speak, you know what
• 1:21:28
  I'm saying? I'm hoping that you know, like
• 1:21:30
  you say it when they got that four seed, you would have said,
• 1:21:34
  hey, she's getting surgery. There was ACL.
• 1:21:37
  You're having surgery. You know what?
• 1:21:38
  Well, you can't you if you got to do it, what are you waiting
• 1:21:40
  on? You know what I'm saying?
• 1:21:41
  You want to go ahead and get started so you can start
• 1:21:44
  rehabbing. So if it's not torn, you know, I
• 1:21:48
  would love to see you in Virginia Tech jersey again.
• 1:21:50
  You know what I'm saying? One more time, even if it even
• 1:21:52
  if it's one more time, man, you know, I would love to see you in
• 1:21:56
  a because she deserves that. So I don't know, man.
• 1:21:59
  I'm holding out hope that we'll see her again.
• 1:22:02
  Yep, and it's Baylor. Baylor is the match up down at
• 1:22:05
  home. Kind of funny, right?
• 1:22:07
  Full circle. Got to play Baylor a year later.
• 1:22:10
  All right, last piece. I wanted to hit this because,
• 1:22:14
  you know, we had Joe on here just a couple weeks ago talking
• 1:22:16
  about wrestling. Did y'all see that because of
• 1:22:20
  the injuries that happened, that Tex, now the second betting
• 1:22:24
  favorite to win the national title?
• 1:22:27
  I did not see that. Joe tweet too much because I
• 1:22:31
  would go find it and pull it up, but it's one of the sites he
• 1:22:34
  follows pretty closely. Literally, we are the 2nd
• 1:22:37
  betting favorite because a couple of the categories where
• 1:22:41
  Penn State's strong, it's where guys of ours could win.
• 1:22:46
  And you know, Joe talked about it.
• 1:22:47
  If you get 3. There's there's there's two key
• 1:22:49
  injuries called yeah he's out so there's two key injuries that
• 1:22:56
  are putting us in a in a really good position at weight classes
• 1:22:59
  where we were already predicted to to finish pretty high could
• 1:23:04
  end up finished in one so. You.
• 1:23:08
  Start you start stacking some of that, you start getting some of
• 1:23:11
  these. I think as Joe said some of the
• 1:23:13
  younger guys in these spots where we haven't looked as good
• 1:23:17
  or a sharp. I think if you get some some
• 1:23:19
  extra wins there you might be on to something.
• 1:23:22
  So that's going to be kind of the interesting piece because of
• 1:23:26
  that. And it's such a weird sport
• 1:23:28
  because you know, we had a couple years ago, young guys get
• 1:23:32
  in the top five and that's what happens.
• 1:23:34
  Some kid who's good gets in the top five, he becomes an All
• 1:23:38
  American and the next thing you know you go from being 10th to
• 1:23:40
  like being 5th because of that finish.
• 1:23:43
  It's it's wild to watch. I know we'll be watching bracket
• 1:23:46
  games and doing fun shit like that this weekend spring ball
• 1:23:51
  going on. I know it's all.
• 1:23:54
  I I, I mean, we probably could talk another hour on that, but
• 1:23:58
  I'm going to hold that because we got a guest coming in a few
• 1:24:02
  weeks. We're going to talk all about
• 1:24:03
  it, but I think the thing I want to point out real quick, Gunner
• 1:24:08
  Givens, Lamar Law goes from the defensive line to the offensive
• 1:24:12
  line. Probably the biggest thing that
• 1:24:14
  I saw in the as far as depth chart goes.
• 1:24:18
  I don't. Nothing else really jumped out
• 1:24:19
  to me. Maybe it should have.
• 1:24:22
  Maybe I just was sitting there like this is what I expected.
• 1:24:26
  I mean, they talked about one of the guy, maybe it was Andy today
• 1:24:31
  like the first four Nias, Kamari, Fuga and Gilliam.
• 1:24:38
  Gilliam. Thank you.
• 1:24:40
  I just like so like, OK, that's what we expected, you know?
• 1:24:50
  Yeah. And I think that's good.
• 1:24:53
  I've seen that, you know, Montagne's Cunningham working,
• 1:24:58
  you know working with the with the second team right now.
• 1:25:00
  But we'll see how that evolves as as Kent moves forward for for
• 1:25:04
  spring practice here. But you know, I think the
• 1:25:08
  biggest news again is going to be that those position switches
• 1:25:11
  for Law and Givens hoping to see Givens kind of put things
• 1:25:15
  together to put the pieces together.
• 1:25:17
  You know, getting him on the side of the ball where he
• 1:25:20
  probably should have started if it wasn't for depth necessity at
• 1:25:24
  the time his recruiting class came on board.
• 1:25:27
  Y'all said it a few minutes ago. Roster mismanagement.
• 1:25:31
  My God And and thankfully the Portal helped shore up some of
• 1:25:36
  that this offseason and we still have to keep back feeling.
• 1:25:39
  But I think that, you know, we at least kind of stopped the
• 1:25:42
  bleeding on that position group. So that's good to see because
• 1:25:47
  when he came on, I mean let's talk about it real quick.
• 1:25:49
  It wasn't as easy as OK, well, you know, we ended up having, we
• 1:25:54
  ended up having Kendricks and Pollard for 2023.
• 1:25:58
  That was not always expected. When those decisions were made
• 1:26:03
  in 2022, we thought we wouldn't have Pollard, we wouldn't have
• 1:26:06
  Kendrick's. We thought pain was going to be
• 1:26:08
  gone because he only had one year left.
• 1:26:10
  But then he ended up having an injury that kind of pushed that
• 1:26:12
  back a year. So we were in a very, very
• 1:26:15
  different situation, you know, late 2022 than we were right
• 1:26:21
  now. We can actually afford to make
• 1:26:24
  those shuffles that we really couldn't afford to do at that
• 1:26:26
  point. So.
• 1:26:31
  There you go. And and that's the things that
• 1:26:33
  are that are happening. Y'all want a good laugh?
• 1:26:35
  Look at the UVA score. Oh, I saw.
• 1:26:40
  Yeah, I've seen it a little bit ago.
• 1:26:41
  I think think B Fish tweeted about it and then I seen it in.
• 1:26:46
  The That 10 minute scoring drought is a bitch.
• 1:26:50
  Well, they had only scored like 2 out of halftime.
• 1:26:53
  That's if I I think if you look at both, it might be, it might
• 1:26:57
  be almost a 15 to 20 minute scoring drought.
• 1:26:59
  They crazy. I don't know what's going on
• 1:27:01
  with them. They they don't understand, like
• 1:27:05
  y'all got anything else? You don't talk about the night
• 1:27:07
  Boys, Anything that's crossed your mind?
• 1:27:09
  If you have not went and seen the picture of Aiden Green with
• 1:27:15
  his shirt off flexing, go find it.
• 1:27:18
  I don't know who posted it. There's a picture of some of the
• 1:27:22
  younger wide receivers and Aiden Green has a shirt off and he
• 1:27:26
  flexing Big boy BMF homo. He done leveled up.
• 1:27:36
  He looked like a he looked like a statue man, like I thought he
• 1:27:39
  was a skinny kid. Hold on.
• 1:27:41
  Wait a SEC. You can't.
• 1:27:42
  This is just a tease. Because after Spring Game, it's
• 1:27:45
  the BMF award. From John Man.
• 1:27:47
  Listen, I'm telling you, Aiden Green looked like a A a Greek
• 1:27:51
  statue man on that. On that picture.
• 1:27:53
  It might have been photoshopped. I know they see the AI and all
• 1:27:57
  that stuff, man. Boy got muffled everywhere.
• 1:27:59
  You say he's on the BMF watch list.
• 1:28:02
  BMF watch. List I'm telling you, man, I
• 1:28:04
  know we, I know we're getting out of here, but a spring ball
• 1:28:06
  is here. It's time to get excited.
• 1:28:08
  This is going to be a great season.
• 1:28:11
  My boy. My boy Brody is in that number
• 1:28:15
  six, you know what I'm saying? I've been seeing pictures and
• 1:28:19
  watching them run routes with the number six on.
• 1:28:21
  We got Chaz Wiggins at #7. Hey, the wide receiver room is
• 1:28:26
  looking good right now. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:28:29
  We got some. Hey, we got some good shit
• 1:28:32
  going. On Look at Robbie.
• 1:28:33
  Look at Robbie. Talking about parlays, Robbie
• 1:28:35
  hit a parlay tonight. Robbie Robbie been on the on the
• 1:28:38
  side here lately so he finally hit one all.
• 1:28:41
  Righty. Hey, by the way, other thing.
• 1:28:44
  And I'm sure we'll talk about a little bit more next week.
• 1:28:46
  Fontell Minds. Man.
• 1:28:49
  That's big. I wanted to get that with
• 1:28:51
  Dwight, but doing. What you got to do to keep your
• 1:28:54
  guy in house too, I mean that's that's important, that's taking
• 1:28:57
  care of your own, that's that's making sure that you keep the
• 1:29:02
  talent, where the talent is and you keep the talent coming in.
• 1:29:07
  100%. Yep, it's 100% smart ass.
• 1:29:10
  Move, hey, I mean, hey, you know, Dwight said it earlier and
• 1:29:14
  we we're going to wrap up. We're kind of trying to wrap up
• 1:29:16
  on this note. Frank Beamer had laid the
• 1:29:19
  blueprint 30 plus years ago. All the blueprint needed was an
• 1:29:23
  updating to the modern times and.
• 1:29:29
  Everything off? Put some infrastructure behind
• 1:29:31
  it. And every little while,
• 1:29:34
  everything. It hasn't been a quick and
• 1:29:37
  unfortunately hasn't been quick, but it's everything is a little
• 1:29:41
  step, little wrong, little step hit every piece right.
• 1:29:46
  And it was nice the back half of last season, taking two steps at
• 1:29:49
  a time. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:29:52
  And as Frank built, yeah, Frank built the house, man.
• 1:29:56
  All Fuente had to come in and do was paint it.
• 1:30:00
  But this motherfucker start putting.
• 1:30:02
  He tried to, he put start putting outhouses in the
• 1:30:04
  backyard, trying to raise cattle back there When he was on, when
• 1:30:09
  he was on concrete, he had all type of bullshit going on.
• 1:30:14
  So but that's all right though what Chris say, right?
• 1:30:17
  There. And probably trust.
• 1:30:19
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• 1:30:22
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