Latest / Anchored by the Sword / Behind the Scenes of Sugarcreek Amish Mysteries (Part 1): A Conversation with Chevonne O’Shaughnessy!
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- 0:00Thank you for joining me on this episode of the Anchor by the
- 0:02Sword podcast. I pray that today's episode will
- 0:05leave you encouraged and also challenged in your faith.
- 0:08And I pray that you would take the stories that are talked
- 0:13about here today and share them with other people.
- 0:17Thank you so much for joining me and enjoy today's episode.
- 0:22Hey guys, welcome to this episode of the Anchor by the
- 0:24Sword podcast. I am super excited because I am
- 0:28starting a three episode series about a new television series
- 0:34coming out that I personally got to be involved in and I loved it
- 0:38so much. It's called Sugar Creek Amish
- 0:40Mysteries and it is coming out on up TV and on up faith and
- 0:45family. And it's also got a movie that
- 0:48came out last year. And I'm just so excited because
- 0:52today I have Siobhan Oshanowski on and we are going to talk
- 0:58about all things her story, Sugar Creek Amish Mysteries, how
- 1:03she got involved with all things Sugar Creek and just everything.
- 1:06So thank you for coming on today.
- 1:09Thanks Gina, It was so much fun having you even on set.
- 1:12It was great. Absolutely.
- 1:14The first day I was ever on set, it was me and my husband, and we
- 1:18sat and probably talked your ear off during lunchtime because we
- 1:22were so excited. So let's start by having you
- 1:27tell my listeners a little bit about yourself.
- 1:30Well, I've been in the business between 35 years.
- 1:33You know, I started doing action movies.
- 1:36I started in the 19 in the early 90s and when home video was
- 1:42really well and we were doing one crash, boom, bam a month and
- 1:47we loved it. And we'd go to all the markets
- 1:49of the Calm Film Festival, the TV markets and literally could
- 1:52put on the outside door, sold out.
- 1:55Every country in the world was taking our movies.
- 1:58They the dialogue was very small because basically it was just
- 2:02stunts and it was fun and we are doing great.
- 2:06And, and as things started going on, we did 75 of them.
- 2:10That was PM Entertainment. And then George and I started
- 2:13together on American Cinema. I was a single mom and my
- 2:18daughter was nine years old and she came to me and she wanted to
- 2:22watch Child's Play. And I don't know if you remember
- 2:25that movie Child's Play. It was about the doll and the
- 2:28stabs. I'll check the And I told her
- 2:31she couldn't see it. And of course, just like
- 2:34children, they did. She went behind my back and she
- 2:36watched the movie and she came to me and she said that she was
- 2:40scared. And I kind of brushed it off.
- 2:44I was busy. I was doing markets and busy
- 2:47with business. And I didn't really think that
- 2:50much of it, thinking it was just an hour and a half how much
- 2:53damage could have done. And I think of a month later, I
- 2:58went to her school and I walked in her, her classroom, Gina.
- 3:02And you know how when you go in, there's pictures on all the
- 3:06walls and I'm looking around and all the pictures of the
- 3:08students. And I'm looking around and all
- 3:11of a sudden I come to my daughter's pictures and usually
- 3:14they're bright and colorful. And all of a sudden now they're
- 3:18dark and they're red. And I'm talking to the teacher.
- 3:22I'm saying, what's going on? And she goes, your daughter has
- 3:25so much anxiety. And I said, really, she goes,
- 3:29yes, that movie really affected her.
- 3:34And for starters, first I felt ashamed that I must give you a
- 3:38horrible mother, that I really didn't take it seriously because
- 3:43I didn't think it wouldn't be that that much.
- 3:47And I had to go home and really say I was sorry to her.
- 3:51And then I looked at myself and I said from then on, I said if I
- 3:56have the power of making movies, I want to make movies that a
- 4:01family can sit down and watch together.
- 4:04I can't stop the other ones from being made, but I want a place
- 4:08that a family can sit down and have an alternative.
- 4:11So that's when I started doing the other type of movies.
- 4:15So you started American cinema inspires.
- 4:21No, first I started with Cindy Bond.
- 4:23Bond it meant and we she had given me the 10 commandments
- 4:29this years ago, 2007. She had made a animation called
- 4:3410 commandments. She had Christian Slater, Alva
- 4:36Molina and Ben Kingsley in it. They were the voices on it.
- 4:39And she asked me to sell it. And I'm like, I don't know
- 4:45Cindy. I do action and the crash from
- 4:47them. I said, I said, let me ask my
- 4:49partner see if we can we can do this.
- 4:51I mean, we're at the market. So anyhow, I'll put up a panel
- 4:55and I said, let me see if we can sell this movie.
- 4:58And it's like, OK, so, but I mean, it can't hurt us.
- 5:01We'll have these pictures of Alpha Molino, Ben Kingsley and
- 5:03Christian Slater. What can it do?
- 5:05So he sold the movie. The animation was OK, It wasn't
- 5:08great. And he ended up going the
- 5:12market. He ended up selling the world,
- 5:16the world except for one territory.
- 5:18You know what that one territory was?
- 5:20And the funny part, Gina was I thought it was going to be my
- 5:23first territory that I was going to sell.
- 5:26It was Israel. Wow.
- 5:30I sold China, I sold Japan, I sold Turkey for Ramadan, I sold
- 5:35the Middle East, I sold everywhere except for Israel.
- 5:39And think first thing they said to me, we already know the
- 5:42story. Wow.
- 5:43Hey, base didn't want a Christian giving them the Jewish
- 5:46story, but everywhere else. And that's when Cindy and I
- 5:49said, I said, Cindy, if we're doing these movies, we should
- 5:53not only just have one, we have to have at least six to ten of
- 5:58these a year because that's what we were doing with AC before.
- 6:00We were making one, one a month. So a friend of mine said,
- 6:04Siobhan, you should get a whole bunch of these together.
- 6:07So we started Mission Pictures and then for 5-7 years we got 75
- 6:13of these faith-based movies and we would go to the markets and
- 6:16the markets were kind of like they had never seen these type
- 6:19of movies before in the beginning.
- 6:22They would come in and then they walk out.
- 6:26They were like kind of scared, like what's going on here?
- 6:28And sometimes it go, we always were looking for these type of
- 6:32movies, but we didn't know where to find them.
- 6:35So we did really well. Then all of a sudden, Cindy,
- 6:40Cindy wanted to convert people. I just want to inspire people.
- 6:43So she went her way and I started American Cinemas Fires.
- 6:47So my movies are, I would call myself more of a seed planter.
- 6:52I want to also sell the world internationally.
- 6:54And the problem is if you do open a Bible or you start to
- 6:57convert and you use those, then I can sell television and I can
- 7:01sell certain places. And I didn't want to put too
- 7:05much in a box. So my movies are more hinting at
- 7:09it. But you make your decision,
- 7:12Yeah. So what got you interested in
- 7:16the whole Sugar Creek area? Because this is not your first
- 7:20venture with Sugar Creek style movies.
- 7:24Well, when Cindy and I started Mission, I went into Hallmark
- 7:29and because I'd done 75 movies and I had a script, I'm thinking
- 7:33they're going to give me a chance to make a movie for.
- 7:36So I had this script and go into them and I show them the stuff.
- 7:39And the girl, the Hallmark movie says to me, she goes, what are
- 7:44you bringing to me? And I'm looking at going, what
- 7:46do you mean what I'm bringing to you?
- 7:48I'm, I've made 75 movies and I have a script and she goes, OK,
- 7:53we have a whole bunch of people like you, what are you bringing
- 7:56to me? And I'm like, what do you mean
- 7:57bringing to you? You're Hallmark.
- 7:58I'm not Hallmark. I just make movies.
- 8:01And she goes, no, no, yeah, I need you to bring me something
- 8:04different than that. So I remember walking out of
- 8:07there going basically thinking to myself, what does she mean?
- 8:11So I don't have cast. So then I started doing books.
- 8:15So I was having a, a Christian person that was doing some
- 8:20liturgy for us. We were trying to look at things
- 8:22and he brought me the love find you books.
- 8:26I don't know if you remember those from Guidepost.
- 8:29And at first it was some of them press, some of them press first
- 8:32had them and then some of them press sold them to Guidepost.
- 8:34And Cindy and I went to Guideposts and we got the rights
- 8:39for it. And I, they're 50.
- 8:42So there are 50 States and each one had one.
- 8:44And I went through them. I read most of them.
- 8:46So, you know, I read most of those books.
- 8:49And we started with the Love Find You in Sugar Creek.
- 8:53And I came back into the Hallmark office and I said,
- 8:56look, and at that time, Guideposts used to do a monthly
- 8:59letter to 6 million people. I have 6 million people.
- 9:03I have this script again, it's very contained.
- 9:06And it's this and the other. And this is what I have.
- 9:10They still said no, but Up TV said yes.
- 9:14So before we went out of it, George and I called up Up TV and
- 9:18we said we're doing a lot of promotion.
- 9:20At that time, social media wasn't what it is today, but we
- 9:23were doing mom bloggers, we're doing the Christian bookstores,
- 9:26and we knew we had guideposts. So we said to them, we think
- 9:30we're going to do 2 million views on the channel for this
- 9:33movie. And they started laughing and
- 9:35they said, well, the highest movie we've had to date has been
- 9:41Passion of the Christ on Easter and that has only done 700,000
- 9:47views. Wow.
- 9:49Do you really think you're going to beat Jesus?
- 9:52And of course you go no, no, no, I wouldn't say that, No, no,
- 9:56right. But we aired and we did 4.7
- 10:01million views. Wow.
- 10:04And then they thought it was Anomaly.
- 10:06It's only because we had Kelly Mcgillis and it is not going to
- 10:09be able to do again. So they gave me another one
- 10:10called Love Finds You in Charm, which you know is right next
- 10:13door to Sugar Creek. So we were still in that same
- 10:16area and we did 4.7 million. And then they gave us Love Finds
- 10:22You in Valentine, which is we did in I think a town right next
- 10:26to it, which is, I forgot the name of the right now, but we're
- 10:30still in that same area, still in Ohio.
- 10:32And that one we did 5 million because it was Valentine's Day.
- 10:37So that whole area was a very good part for us.
- 10:39So we loved it. That's why.
- 10:41So when it came to doing another Amish movie, which was my Dutch
- 10:45buyer who said, Schwan, I need another Amish.
- 10:48Can you give me a series? In the beginning I was like, oh,
- 10:51no, not Amish. I have to read all these books
- 10:54again. And sometimes they're not that
- 10:56great. And then I found the Sugar Creek
- 10:59with guideposts, and I was like, oh, so that's how it started.
- 11:03I love it and being a lifelong Ohioan, I've been to Sugar Creek
- 11:09Charm. I've been to all of those areas
- 11:12many, many times. I've stayed the night at the
- 11:14Amish in the whole area is just gorgeous.
- 11:18And if you haven't been there, the movies and the TV series,
- 11:23anything filmed down there doesn't do it completely justice
- 11:27because it is just so beautiful down there.
- 11:30And it's calm too. Like you go down there and you
- 11:34instantly feel calm. Like, I mean, it's just a
- 11:37different way of life down there and it's just beautiful.
- 11:42So I love that you guys are bringing more and more people
- 11:45are using that area for filming because I know that it also
- 11:51brings a lot more people to that area that would have been there
- 11:57before. And yeah, and I loved when we
- 12:02were filming, when we were filming the TV series.
- 12:06And I mean, I remember how hot it was the one day at the one of
- 12:12the scenes that are in the series, it was so hot, but
- 12:16people were out there with their lawn chairs watching the filming
- 12:20taking place. And I just thought that was the
- 12:23coolest thing, just having people just come by and just
- 12:28kind of watch and see how it was made.
- 12:31Yeah, it. Was fun.
- 12:32Yeah, a lot of people, a lot of people were very curious, but it
- 12:35was fun. They they kept their distance
- 12:36because they knew they had to. We kind of told them where they
- 12:39could sit. Loved watch.
- 12:41Yes, it was very fun. So if nobody's ever watched the
- 12:45movie, let's talk about the movie 1st and then lead into how
- 12:49it became a series. Well, it's always been a series
- 12:53of books. The Sugar Creek Amish Mysteries
- 12:57was a series of books, which is kind of like The Love Finds You,
- 12:59which is 50, but Love Finds You were individual stories.
- 13:03This one, I wanted the continuation of the same cast
- 13:05and I was so grateful that the Sugar Creek Amish Mysteries is
- 13:0935 books. And I think there's even more
- 13:11now today because it's continued on.
- 13:13All right. It started with 35 S To test it,
- 13:17I decided to do the first two books, which was the movie.
- 13:21So it's called the Sugar Creek Amish Mysteries, Blessings in
- 13:24Disguise, which is the first two books, and that one is aired
- 13:29last year on Easter on Up T and then went on Up Faith and Family
- 13:34in June. And it has been on Up Faith and
- 13:37Family for 10 months and has been through 10 months on the
- 13:40top ten, top 10. Films so.
- 13:43Now that it's going to go on, it's it's another 8 hours.
- 13:47So we're all excited because everybody's loving it.
- 13:50And as you saw, were you at NRB? At NRB, not this year, not this
- 13:55year, but I will be next year. I brought a buggy and everybody
- 14:00was so excited and Riley and Denise, Naomi and Esther, who
- 14:04play the characters dressed in Amish for the things.
- 14:07And Galadriel and Kevin, which is Cheryl and Levi dressed, did
- 14:14not dress. But they were there to meet the
- 14:15people too at NRB with the buggies.
- 14:18So it's very cute. That's awesome.
- 14:20OK, So you are doing all of these things now.
- 14:25You're doing the series is you're doing just all the things
- 14:30that are continuing. How do you stay grounded with
- 14:33your faith and with the purpose that you feel like you are being
- 14:38given to do? Oh, I'm praying about it.
- 14:42But the same time, you know, there was a part at night you
- 14:46didn't know about it, but there was a part when I had a very big
- 14:50clerical error that when I made the LLC to do it because I have
- 14:55to create an LLC to make the series.
- 14:58The guy in my office, instead of putting the correct address that
- 15:02we have a guy in Ohio, he put the wrong address and all of a
- 15:07sudden my mail was going to a guy who did not know me because
- 15:11went to the wrong address ended up claiming that I was a
- 15:14fraudulent incumbent to the state, the Secretary of State's
- 15:18office. So when I went to go to get the
- 15:22banking, I had a fraudulent case and I almost had to shut down
- 15:26the series at 4 episodes and all of a sudden I met the Secretary
- 15:32of State and he ended up fixing it for me.
- 15:36So sometimes I think that it's not me who's in control of this
- 15:39series. It's a lot bigger power and we
- 15:42ended up doing and things are just falling in place and things
- 15:46are going well. And sometimes I don't get
- 15:48worried about it because I know it's not me.
- 15:52Absolutely. So the other part I just want to
- 15:57touch on real quick is about the loss and the resilience and the
- 16:02rebuilding life with faith and purpose.
- 16:05That has been part of your story to encourage other people who
- 16:09are maybe trying to figure that part out of their life.
- 16:13They they're going through those same things and they see what
- 16:16you're doing and they're like, I don't know if I could do that or
- 16:19I might think about doing something like that, or I've
- 16:22always thought about movies or just even general life.
- 16:28Well. General life, sometimes when
- 16:30you're stuck in your the hardest, the hardest times in my
- 16:34life is just getting up and starting to do something.
- 16:38You know, I feel like you just have to get up, start moving and
- 16:44starts in your brain and doing something.
- 16:46But also, if you're going to make a movie, the one advice I
- 16:51can give is try to figure it out where, where, what channel or
- 16:56where would it land? Just like what Hallmark said to
- 16:59me, what are you bringing to me? So how can you get your audience
- 17:03to go to that place and try to find something that you know
- 17:08would go there? Or even if it's like Hallmark,
- 17:12or if it's up TV or if it's GAC, all of them have a formula of
- 17:18what they're looking for. So something happens to happen
- 17:22by 10 minutes or 20 minutes. You should really study what
- 17:28they're looking for. I had done, like I said, I went
- 17:31back to Hallmark and then they finally wanted one of my scripts
- 17:34and I send them just exactly what they wanted.
- 17:37And then they was crickets. And I'm going, you asked me for
- 17:41another Amish one because you saw how well they're doing.
- 17:43Why are you giving me crickets? And then all of a sudden I'm,
- 17:46I'm watching the channel 24/7, 24/7.
- 17:50And then I, I said, I got this by this page.
- 17:52I got this by this page. Yes, it's this Dennis.
- 17:55And I'm why, why, why aren't you calling me?
- 17:57And then I figured out what it was.
- 17:59Their main advertise was Petco and I didn't have an animal in
- 18:02the store. So I ended up putting a dog
- 18:06really quick. He gets saved.
- 18:08He put him to the to the animal, you know, just something really
- 18:11quick was all they wanted. And they said, why don't you
- 18:14just tell me? And they said, no, you should
- 18:17know what we want before we tell you.
- 18:23So that's going to say the same thing.
- 18:25You should study what they want. So by the time you go in, you
- 18:29can tell. Them it's like being able to
- 18:33like things that I've learned in doing the podcast and ministry
- 18:37work and writing the book and all the things I've learned
- 18:40about what my audience expects. And so and doing the research
- 18:46and finding out who your target audience is and what they expect
- 18:51when they tune into your podcast or tune into your movies or tune
- 18:54into the TV series, whatever it is, they expect a certain thing.
- 18:59So then you build on that. But you did it, so that's what
- 19:04I'm saying. Somebody's going to do
- 19:05something. They should try to figure that
- 19:07out too instead of just begin it.
- 19:10And it takes time and patience is key.
- 19:12And some of us are just not great at patience.
- 19:14But it it's not us. Patient either.
- 19:19I'm not patient at all. That's funny that you say that
- 19:22because you seem to be one of the most relaxed people on set.
- 19:27Well, because I've done all my job before that's.
- 19:29True, that's true. You've done all the work to get
- 19:32to get everybody there. Yes.
- 19:36Like I said, I, I feel so blessed that the whole, the
- 19:40whole reason I started coming down there is because of Micah.
- 19:44And you know, I feel so blessed that I've gotten to be a part of
- 19:48this project and I'm super excited for everybody to see.
- 19:51I'm excited to see all the episodes and see them come
- 19:56together and how they build on each other and I'm just so
- 19:58excited. If you are in Ohio, keep an eye
- 20:01out because Season 2 is going to be filming and I cannot wait to
- 20:06see which stories you guys pick up for season 2.
- 20:09Which parts of the books you guys?
- 20:10Use SO. Where can people keep an eye out
- 20:15on that? Where can they keep an eye on
- 20:18whatever else you're doing? Well, they can always look on
- 20:23ACI American Cinema inspires our website.
- 20:27We are also looking at some Christmas movies maybe this year
- 20:30that we're going to be doing as well.
- 20:32That's awesome. We're also trying to maybe do
- 20:36another series, not Sugar Creek Amish Mysteries, but maybe a
- 20:41kind of like a Heartland. We're trying to create something
- 20:44new and different. So we're trying to get bigger.
- 20:49I love it. I love it so you guys go check
- 20:52out American cinema inspires and also check out Sugar Creek Amish
- 20:56mysteries when it hits up TV and up faith family and thank you so
- 21:01much for hanging out with me today.
- 21:02I really appreciate it. Thank.
- 21:04You, Gina. Awesome.
- 21:05And I'll see you in a couple months.
- 21:06Thank you. So much for joining me for this
- 21:08episode, the Anchor by the Store podcast.
- 21:10I pray that the story that you heard today will encourage your
- 21:13faith, challenge your faith, and also help you as you walk in
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