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Full Show Podcast: 20 May 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: early edition with one roof make your Property search simple,
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  Speaker 1: US dogs.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be good morning, Welcome to your Tuesday. Coming up
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  Speaker 2: on the program. This Trump putin call lasted two hours.
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  Speaker 2: It's now over. We'll bring you when we hear the
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  Speaker 2: latest on what was said, what happened and what it
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  Speaker 2: means for Ukraine. The government's sweeteners on foreign investment. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about that before six to party Mardi and the
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  Speaker 2: Shrimozzle rolls on to Parliament this afternoon. This is going
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  Speaker 2: to go on for a while. We'll have reaction to that. Also,
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  Speaker 2: AI cheating by our students. This is in secondary school,
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  Speaker 2: so they're not cheating in exams. They're cheating on the
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  Speaker 2: essays they write at home. So the question is should
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  Speaker 2: they even be writing essays when you've got access to AI.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Demayo out of Australia. Good morning the agenda, and
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  Speaker 2: we will start with a Brixit nine years on from Bricksit.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a new UK EU deal.
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  Speaker 3: We're turning a page.
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  Speaker 4: We're opening a new chapter in our unique relationship.
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  Speaker 2: It's like going from a marriage to now having copy
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  Speaker 2: dates this one. It includes things like fishing, defense and
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  Speaker 2: passport checks. This deal is a win win.
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  Speaker 5: It delivers what the British public voted for last year.
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  Speaker 5: It gives us unprecedented access to the EU market, the
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  Speaker 5: best of any country outside of the EU or after.
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  Speaker 2: When you say unprecedented, not quite as unprecedented as it
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  Speaker 2: was when you were in the EU.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, we move on to the Trump and Posting call.
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  Speaker 2: It's now concluded. Here's what Varnce said. They wanted out
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  Speaker 2: of it beforehand. Talks have been.
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  Speaker 7: Proceeding for a little while. We realized there's a bit
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  Speaker 7: of an impass here. And I think the President's going
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  Speaker 7: to say to President boot and, look, are you serious?
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  Speaker 7: Are you real about this? Because the proposal from the
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  Speaker 7: United States has always been Look, there are a lot
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  Speaker 7: of economic benefits to thawing relations between Russia and the
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  Speaker 7: rest of the world, but you're not going to get
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  Speaker 7: those benefits you keep on killing a lot of innocent people.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden's prostate cancer. Who's got to let it from
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  Speaker 2: the king. After he announced the diagnosis yesterday on social media,
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  Speaker 2: Biden said cancer touches us all. He's grateful for the support.
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  Speaker 8: President Donald Trump, reacting on social media saying Milania and
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  Speaker 8: I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden's recent medical diagnosis.
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  Speaker 8: We wish Joe a fast and successful recovery. Former President
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  Speaker 8: Barack Obama also added a statement saying nobody has done
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  Speaker 8: more to find breakthrough treatments for cancer in all its
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  Speaker 8: forms than Joe.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, It is nine after five News Talk,
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  Speaker 1: You trust to stud your day's Philly editioned with Ryan
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  Speaker 2: Nine two nine two is the number of ticks we'd
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  Speaker 2: love to hear from you this morning. Now, the Trump
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  Speaker 2: potent call is a big deal. Bigger deal than anything
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  Speaker 2: we've been talking about re Ukraine over the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks. America is the only country really that Putin
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  Speaker 2: still fears, who doesn't care about Europe. You know this
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  Speaker 2: coalition of the Willing that they've been talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: your Stamas and your Macrons coming out in Kiev. And
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  Speaker 2: we supposedly supposedly part of this coalition of the Willing
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  Speaker 2: as well, although we don't quite say that we are.
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  Speaker 2: It's all a bit vague anyway. They came out with
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  Speaker 2: a deadline. Remember that if you don't behave Vladimir, you
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  Speaker 2: naughty boy, we will sanction you, and we mean it
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  Speaker 2: will that deadline. Guess what passed a week ago, and
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  Speaker 2: guess what, no sanctions. If you're going to stand up
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  Speaker 2: to a bully and look credible, you're going to follow
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  Speaker 2: through with it. Surely. Anyway, this call will either send
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  Speaker 2: Trump packing. He'll give up and walk away from the
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  Speaker 2: whole thing, and that would probably be the worst outcome
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  Speaker 2: because then Putin just continues with impunity, or it could
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  Speaker 2: piss them off, and that would be the best outcome
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  Speaker 2: for Ukraine, or the best outcome for actually a cease
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  Speaker 2: fire or wanting to end this thing. You know, had
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  Speaker 2: them with new sanction. If he's really riled up and
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  Speaker 2: you know Putin's just being intolerable, then you get new sanctions.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you kick out some diplomats, you cut ties,
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  Speaker 2: even maximum pressure. That's why this call that started two
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  Speaker 2: hours ago has now ended. Is a big deal. Certainly
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  Speaker 2: a bigger deal than a bunch of Europeans signing ultimatums
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  Speaker 2: that they don't keep enough five year on news talks
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  Speaker 2: they'd be Does anyone care about what's going on at
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  Speaker 2: Parliament today. If you're a member of the public, you're
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  Speaker 2: not even allowed to go and watch. That's how worried
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  Speaker 2: they are about security at Parliament today. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: let's not forget that this if a win for what
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  Speaker 2: we what you might consider we might consider a win
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  Speaker 2: for democracy or a win for the rules, is not
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  Speaker 2: it's a loss. It's a win for taparty Marti on
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  Speaker 2: social media. That's what it is. Anyway, we'll discuss this next.
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  Speaker 2: News Talks said BE five thirteen. News Talk said BE.
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  Speaker 2: We have heard that the phone call between Putin and
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  Speaker 2: the US President Donald Trump has ended. And now we
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  Speaker 2: not haven't heard from the White House, but we've heard
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  Speaker 2: from the Kremlin. This is a statement from Putin. This
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  Speaker 2: is just in the last couple of minutes. It was
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  Speaker 2: a very informative and quite a frank conversation, very useful
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  Speaker 2: in this respect. I thank the US President for his
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  Speaker 2: resuming direct negotiations between Russia and Ukraine on a possible
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  Speaker 2: peace agreement. The US President voiced his position on a
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  Speaker 2: ceased fire. For my part, I noted that Russia too
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  Speaker 2: favors a peaceful settlement of the Ukrainian crisis. We simply
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  Speaker 2: must determine the most effective ways of moving towards peace.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't sound like they've actually come to any major agreements.
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  Speaker 2: It is fourteen after five Parliament votes on the three
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  Speaker 2: week suspension for Debbie and Rawerdy today and seven days
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  Speaker 2: for my pet Clark. The public gallery will sit empty.
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  Speaker 2: The debate could drag on, with filibustering every MP able
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  Speaker 2: to speak. Liam. Here is a columnist and political commentator
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  Speaker 2: with me this morning. Them, Good morning, good morning. You're right,
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  Speaker 2: this is unprecedented. You know, normally you just get named,
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  Speaker 2: you apologized. It would be the worst suspension since Muldoon
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  Speaker 2: in the eighties. Is it too far?
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  Speaker 9: Well, look, that's for Parliament to decide, and it's a
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  Speaker 9: really important thing. But can I just point out something
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  Speaker 9: that's going to annoy me a little bit, is yes,
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  Speaker 9: the punishment would be unprecedented, but the offense is pretty
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  Speaker 9: unprecedented too, right, and so sort of the idea that
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  Speaker 9: there's some sort of sort of arbitrary or outrageous thing
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  Speaker 9: about her a never before I heard of. Punishment needs
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  Speaker 9: to be in the context of the fact that it's
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  Speaker 9: never before heard of offense to in breach of parliamentary privilege.
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  Speaker 9: So it's pretty Yes, it's severe, but the circumstances were severe.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you, But so for me that the
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  Speaker 2: aggravating factor was the pistol gesture by Debbie. But then
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  Speaker 2: why why was her sentence not longer? And what about
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  Speaker 2: Julianne Jenta.
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  Speaker 9: Well it certainly well, that certainly was an aggregating aggravating factor,
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  Speaker 9: but really the truly aggravating factor is the complete lack
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  Speaker 9: of remorse and contrition and and that's the difference between
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  Speaker 9: julian and Jester. And also, and let's not forget that
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  Speaker 9: Penny Helladay is also up for a vote today because
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  Speaker 9: he was also complained of to the privilege of committee
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  Speaker 9: and in both cases apologize unreservedly accepted the authority of
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  Speaker 9: the House to regulate its own affairs and conduct its
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  Speaker 9: own discipline of the members. And you know, we're treated
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  Speaker 9: with some leniency as a result, whereas here we have
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  Speaker 9: a continuing, continuing contempt for the ability of Parliament to
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  Speaker 9: even regulate the conduct of its own members. And that
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  Speaker 9: is more than anything as an aggravating factor.
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  Speaker 2: So that what has to happen today, because this drag
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  Speaker 2: on and on and on. Does National need to cut
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  Speaker 2: a deal with the labor Because from where I'm sitting,
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  Speaker 2: you zeam first act to party Maldi, the Greens, they
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  Speaker 2: all have a political interest in dragging this out, But
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  Speaker 2: the bigger parties are the ones probably who will actually
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  Speaker 2: lose if this starts to look messy and too long.
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  Speaker 9: You're right about that. So the small parties always have
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  Speaker 9: an incentive for it to be as much of a
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  Speaker 9: stunt as possible because that plays their base. But really
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  Speaker 9: the key person is Jerry Brownlee. So this is an
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  Speaker 9: unusual kind of situation when you're debating matters of privilege.
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  Speaker 9: When the house is you're not subject to the normal
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  Speaker 9: time limits because it's sort of it's a special sort
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  Speaker 9: of circumstance. And so in the theory, you know, speeches
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  Speaker 9: can go on for as long as they want. They're
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  Speaker 9: not subject or time limit, and so you have what
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  Speaker 9: might look in some ways like an American filibuster, where
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  Speaker 9: are speaker can get up and talk forever to protest
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  Speaker 9: what's happening and come up to the whole business of
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  Speaker 9: the House. But Jerry Brownlee is the Speaker of the House,
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  Speaker 9: has the unique ability to regulate how long people speak,
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  Speaker 9: to say that they're repeating themselves, that they're talking about
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  Speaker 9: irrelevant things, and also to close off debate. So actually,
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  Speaker 9: Jerry Brownlee, he holds all the power in the situation.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting take. Lem really appreciate that. Thanks for coming on
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  Speaker 2: lim here columnist and political commentator with us this morning.
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  Speaker 2: That will take place this afternoon seventeen after five News
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  Speaker 2: talks MB still to come AI. Are your kids doing
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  Speaker 2: exams and are they using AI? There have been a
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  Speaker 2: bit of an uptick in the use, so how should
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  Speaker 2: we test our kids going forward?
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  Speaker 2: Loads of feedback onto party May. I'll get to that
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  Speaker 2: in a second five to twenty hour. This one from
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  Speaker 2: Roder says Ryan Jerry brownly needs a swift kick up
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  Speaker 2: his voluminous ass. Do we need to bring his weight
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  Speaker 2: into this Poor old Jerry, he has a sturdy seat,
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  Speaker 2: that is for sure. Educators cracking down on AI and
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  Speaker 2: school exams. This is the story this morning MZQA figures
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  Speaker 2: show exam breaches are up two hundred and fifty percent
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  Speaker 2: since twenty nineteen. We're talking here actually about external assessments
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  Speaker 2: with AI, so investigating eight hundred and seventy six breaches
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  Speaker 2: last year, about sixty of those down to AI. This
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  Speaker 2: is for your take home work though, So Associate Professor
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Catherine McCallum is with US University of Canterbury this
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  Speaker 2: morning to discuss Good morning.
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  Speaker 10: Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: So is it easy to spot because I've talked to
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  Speaker 2: teachers about this, easy to spot a student who doesn't
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  Speaker 2: normally do well using AI because it stands out like
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  Speaker 2: a sore thumb. But the problem is actually when you've
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  Speaker 2: got a student who performs well and uses it, they fly.
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  Speaker 10: You don't know, Oh yeah, exactly. I mean that's the
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  Speaker 10: problem with AI. I mean you can't detect AI writing
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  Speaker 10: reliably and so any sort of solution that's been given
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  Speaker 10: to us, a technological solution is not useful because it cannot.
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  Speaker 11: Pick up AI writing.
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  Speaker 10: So yeah, so trying to identify students that do well
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  Speaker 10: with the technology is you're really going down a road
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  Speaker 10: that it's not useful. You're wasting your time.
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  Speaker 2: So exams in person exams that are monitored by people.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine, But should we actually be getting kids to
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  Speaker 2: write essays if they can use AI and we won't know?
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  Speaker 10: Well, I think what we need to do is start
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  Speaker 10: thinking about and changing the dialogue a little bit around
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  Speaker 10: AI use. We tend to just assume that AI writing
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  Speaker 10: is cheating, and you know, the minute that I is
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  Speaker 10: part of the process is a cheating is issue And
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  Speaker 10: that's not true. So you can still have assessments writing
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  Speaker 10: and essay writing with AI and it still can be
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  Speaker 10: an assessment of the students learning and their understanding. It's
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  Speaker 10: just we need to change how we assess. We need
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  Speaker 10: to change how we are looking at at the use
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  Speaker 10: of the technology in that space. And so I think
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  Speaker 10: that's the key thing is that you know, just because
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  Speaker 10: we have AI doesn't mean that it's integrity. Is sure,
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  Speaker 10: it's not cheating, but we need to start thinking about
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  Speaker 10: how we stroke that balance where students can use the
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  Speaker 10: technology to scaffold their learning and scaffold them into the
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  Speaker 10: writing process, but.
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  Speaker 2: How do you make sure that they actually understand, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what's on the paper?
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  Speaker 10: Well, I mean, this is the whole point of assessment
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  Speaker 10: for learning is that your a cess for their understanding
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  Speaker 10: and you're building the learning. So it's the problem when
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  Speaker 10: we start thinking about assessment there's this discrete thing that
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  Speaker 10: is summative and that it will identify their work. So
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  Speaker 10: if you are looking at it as a process where
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  Speaker 10: students are engaging with the technology or without the technology
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  Speaker 10: and with you, and as you build up to the
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  Speaker 10: writing and demonstrate their learning, and you do it in
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  Speaker 10: multiple way, so it's not just that written assessment work
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  Speaker 10: that maybe it's conversation afterwards, maybe they translated into something else.
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  Speaker 10: That's when the learning happens. And so that's the point
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  Speaker 10: around the assessment for learning is that it's a process.
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  Speaker 10: It's not just the one hit wonder.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so maybe you get yeah they do
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  Speaker 2: the essay, sure, fine, but then they have to do
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  Speaker 2: a speech afterwards or a presentation and actually prove that
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  Speaker 2: they understand what the hell's are that they're Writtian or
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  Speaker 2: potentially ais Wrissian. I appreciate your time this morning, Associate Professor,
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Catherine McCullum, University of Canterbury. It is twenty four
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  Speaker 2: minutes after five. Would you use AI If you were
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  Speaker 2: at school, you'd be tempted. People used to when I
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  Speaker 2: was at school, right on their knees, you know. He
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  Speaker 2: had to memorize very difficult calculations and stuff and maths.
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  Speaker 2: They would write on their knees or the pen the formulas,
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  Speaker 2: you know, or in the inside their calculator. Now I
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  Speaker 2: never did that. Never. Twenty four or after five, we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about to Party Marty. Lots of your feedback on
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  Speaker 2: that and what's going to happen today at Parliament.
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  Speaker 1: Next the early edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio,
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  Speaker 1: how It by NEWSTALKSB.
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  Speaker 2: News TALKSB It is twenty six minutes after five. Government
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  Speaker 2: debt is the worst it's been since the nineteen nineties.
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  Speaker 2: But today, two days out from a budget designed to
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  Speaker 2: fix it, our parliamentarians will be debating a hakka. The public,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think largely cares about this stuff. Pocketbook book
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  Speaker 2: politics always trumps theatrics, except if you're to Party Mardi.
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  Speaker 2: No matter how today's debate over the Privileges Committee report goes,
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  Speaker 2: and it could go on for a long time, to
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  Speaker 2: Party Marti wins a loss for them. In our Westminster system,
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  Speaker 2: what we might think of as a sanction or a
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  Speaker 2: punishment is to them a badge of honor. Already, they're
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  Speaker 2: well followed. Social media accounts are beating the drum of discontent.
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  Speaker 2: There are some who say that twenty one days is
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  Speaker 2: too harsh. People are comparing the hackets and Debbie's gun
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  Speaker 2: thing to Brooks ced for example, They miss an important point.
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  Speaker 2: Both the sea bomb and the hakka were pre planned,
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  Speaker 2: choreographed stunts. The difference between the two is Brooke asked
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  Speaker 2: the clerk in advance of her stunt if she was
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  Speaker 2: allowed to use the word. The answer is yes to party.
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  Speaker 2: Mardi did not. Brooks stunt did not disrupt a vote
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  Speaker 2: being taken in the House. The Mardi parties did. Voting
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  Speaker 2: is the essence of democracy, where the elected expressed the
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  Speaker 2: views of the electors us. It's Parliament's holy communion, and
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  Speaker 2: nobody has yet said sorry. That does not mean the punishment,
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  Speaker 2: which a slim majority of government members voted for, is
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  Speaker 2: not overly harsh. The clerk reckons its brownly, clearly reckons
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  Speaker 2: it is. The opposition reckons it is. Does the punishment
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  Speaker 2: really fit the crime? That's the question? Or have standards
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  Speaker 2: slipped so badly? The House is such a hot mess
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  Speaker 2: that a precedent and a message needs to be sent
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  Speaker 2: to our parliamentarians. As I said, I think on the
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  Speaker 2: whole the public largely doesn't really care about this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: The question today is how long will national let this
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  Speaker 2: debate drag on with amendments and filibustering before a compromise
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  Speaker 2: is reached. Winston and Seymour, they're your hardliners of course,
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  Speaker 2: to Party Maori, your Greens, the your opposing hard liners
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  Speaker 2: of course. But for the bigger parties the risk is
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  Speaker 2: if you play politics over policy for too long, you
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  Speaker 2: look childish. The only winners from today's sideshow will be
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  Speaker 2: the minnows and of course, well the losers, I should
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  Speaker 2: say with the minnos will be the winners. The losers
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  Speaker 2: really will be the bigger parties and the rest of us.
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  Speaker 2: Bryan Bridge, Ryanum absolutely sick of parliament. It's a disgrace.
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  Speaker 2: They need to get on and do what we voted
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  Speaker 2: them in for, which is running the country. This is MMP,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it. This is MMP. That is what you might
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  Speaker 2: I voted for. It's not what departy Marty's voters are
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  Speaker 2: voting for. It's not what some Winning's supporters are voting for.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed some of acts News Talks, said b will get
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  Speaker 2: to our Australia correspondent and reporters next.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, it is twenty four away from the Sex year.
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  Speaker 2: On news Talksai'd be busy old morning this morning. Putin
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  Speaker 2: and Trump have had a call the White House. Haven't
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  Speaker 2: heard from them yet, but the Kremlin has said they
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  Speaker 2: are quote ready to work towards a memorandum for peace. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it sounds to me a lot more like stalling for time,
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  Speaker 2: which is what they've been doing. And I sent that
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  Speaker 2: crew to Istanbul, Will Putin go, won't he go? And
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  Speaker 2: then no, he doesn't go, and they send an insulting
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  Speaker 2: low level diplomat in his place. So no real firm
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  Speaker 2: word out of what came, if anything firm came out
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  Speaker 2: of this call. Trump was then going to call Zelensky.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll keep you updated and Mike will later on
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  Speaker 2: about any updates from them. Twenty three minutes away from
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: six now. The markets rattled overnight. This is the US
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: debt downgrade from Moody's was that the last of them
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: to strip its triple A rating, So you got rising
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: interest costs, you got your big deficit, only going to
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: get bigger, of course, with the Big Beautiful Bill, which
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: allowed anywhere from three point three trillion to five point
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: two trillion dollars in debt. That Big Beautiful Bill to.
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: Be updated on the progress of the one Big Beautiful Bill.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: We love that bill so beautiful.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I won't like it if it doesn't pass, neither will you.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: So good basically, borrow span, borrow spand hope some tariff
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: revenues offset that spendinguts. By the way, although doge you
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: know they made big promises, didn't they about trillions being cut?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: They only got to hundreds of billions. It's like our government,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, our government has the same problem with hacking spending.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Governments around the world actually have a real problem cutting
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: the spending that we took on the commitments we made
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: during COVID. It's like trying to lose weight. You know,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: once you get to a certain size your this is
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: just science. Your metabolism changes. It is harder to shift
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the kegs. It's true, and the Western world is both
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: now physically and financially firmly in the overweight category. Anyway,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Treasury yields are up. The thirty year hit five percent down.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: The S ANDP opened down this morning on the news
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: that came through on Friday. It's twenty two away from
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: six reporters around the country Callumen to Needen for us
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: cullum as students there being given a bit of a
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: reminder about run down flats.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, look at nb's tendency, compliance and Investigations team are
• 20:01
  Speaker 12: on the prowl here and deeda. They're inspecting some of
• 20:03
  Speaker 12: our most notorious student flats and they're taking aim at
• 20:07
  Speaker 12: the landlords who especially offer up damp rentals to young students.
• 20:12
  Speaker 12: So they're waiting to ensure that they're well maintained, compliance
• 20:15
  Speaker 12: and clean. NBC's they want to make clear the consequences
• 20:19
  Speaker 12: of non compliance because young students are unaware of their rights.
• 20:23
  Speaker 12: The Students Association here says the quality of housing is
• 20:27
  Speaker 12: unacceptable for what students pay, and they say many flats
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: are not compliant simply because of their responsible landlords.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: All right, how's your where they come?
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: Morning Shells then find a strong sol easterly gusting eighty
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  Speaker 12: k's this morning.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: That is as though the heighth today fourteen. Thank you
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Clais and christ to clear. Good morning, good morning, our
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: job for anyone with a fish tank well, yes.
• 20:49
  Speaker 13: A job indeed, Ryan. The Canterbury community is being urged
• 20:51
  Speaker 13: to be on the lookout for an aquatic weed called hornward.
• 20:55
  Speaker 13: It is said to be New Zealand's most submerged weed.
• 20:58
  Speaker 13: This is often purchased to be used as a plant
• 21:00
  Speaker 13: for fish tanks and aquariums, and environment Canterbury Regional Council
• 21:05
  Speaker 13: has received reports of it being sold and bought online
• 21:09
  Speaker 13: around Canterbury. Hornwalt has a detrimental impact on native ecosystems
• 21:13
  Speaker 13: that can displace native vegetation and then increase the flooding risks,
• 21:18
  Speaker 13: so it's pretty worrying. Environment Canterbury is offering to remove
• 21:21
  Speaker 13: the weed from anyone who does find they have it
• 21:24
  Speaker 13: in order to prevent it from entering the natural environment.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Do we know what it looks like like?
• 21:29
  Speaker 13: A fish tank weed? Is pretty much how you describe it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 13: It's very standard looking. So all the informations on the
• 21:35
  Speaker 13: ECAN website.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: All right, thank you, how'shuld were the clear frosty.
• 21:38
  Speaker 13: To start should clear to a bit cloudy southwesterlies and
• 21:42
  Speaker 13: fifteen degrees right.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Stay warm this morning, Max and willing to Max. Good morning,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Good morning. You've got scammers targeting restaurants and cafes.
• 21:49
  Speaker 14: Yeah, front page of the post today is a bit
• 21:51
  Speaker 14: of a depressing one. A good range of hospitality owners,
• 21:54
  Speaker 14: a bar owner, a courtney place, a hipster cafe owner
• 21:58
  Speaker 14: on Cuba Street, mid Night Espresso Beach, Babylon by Oriental Beach.
• 22:02
  Speaker 14: They're all seeing an uptick in scam attempts right now.
• 22:06
  Speaker 14: There's someone, some group calling these places up complaining of
• 22:09
  Speaker 14: severe food poisoning, having eaten their frantic Maybe their partner
• 22:13
  Speaker 14: was rushed to hospital, huge medical bills. Perhaps she's pregnant,
• 22:17
  Speaker 14: went into anaphylectic shock after a bad onion or a
• 22:20
  Speaker 14: bad piece of meat. Shifting accents on the phone, a
• 22:23
  Speaker 14: thespian in person. It's all very elaborate, and it's fraudulent,
• 22:27
  Speaker 14: and it seems it's happening quite frequently around the Capitol
• 22:30
  Speaker 14: at the moment. More traditional scam attempts are also happening
• 22:34
  Speaker 14: with greater frequency. You double charged me, you overcharged me.
• 22:38
  Speaker 14: A wide range of different places seeing this kind of
• 22:40
  Speaker 14: crap right now.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Who do they think it as like one person who's
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: doing this or is this an orchestrated a tech from
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: North Korea?
• 22:49
  Speaker 14: That's right, Russia. Well, in terms of the sort of
• 22:53
  Speaker 14: food poisoning scam, the Russians, what was the accent, Yeah,
• 23:01
  Speaker 14: it's probably an easier accent to do less offensive as well. Yeah,
• 23:04
  Speaker 14: in terms of the food poisoning stuff, that seems like
• 23:07
  Speaker 14: it could be the same group because it's very specific.
• 23:10
  Speaker 14: But you know, the sort of overcharging stuff has been
• 23:13
  Speaker 14: going on for decades, isn't it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, Max, how's your weather?
• 23:18
  Speaker 14: Mostly fine? Northerly's getting up to a higher fifteenth central?
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Nice one, thank you need a good morning to good morning.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Now we've got the Golden Triangle.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: Correct, trust you? Yes, yes, family show as a family
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: show today the Golden Triangle in this years budget. So
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: now this region, the Golden Triangle includes Auckland, Hamilton and
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: Todunger creating more than fifty percent of GDP has more
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: than half of the population that I did not know,
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: but it makes sense.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: All into the Golden Triangle. A lot to fit in
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: a small place.
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: But oh, the barbser keep coming total me at Mahi Drysdale.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: He wants investment and key infrastrution actually like health services,
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: roads and schools.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: We know that.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: Aukland me and Wayne Brown has said, look, I am
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: seeking a bednight levy to fund these major events. He
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: wants easier transit for Chinese nationals and the ability you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: we know this to take control of Auckland Transport. Hamilton's
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: mere port of Southgate. She's not commenting, She said, nope,
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: I'm going to wait till the budgets released.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Huh, you have it, here we go. How's the weather today?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Any showers?
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: Oh my, I sweet, you had had too much sleep
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: last night because you've come on in the fizzing on
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: all cylinders, haven't you.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I had a good sleep on Monday, Monday night, Tuesday, Tuesday,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: sleep on Sunday nights.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Sunday night.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Good today here you do?
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, to like comedian.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: You're a comedian.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: You're funnier than met today.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Fine.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: Apart from evening cloud just the odd shower though in
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: the west, sixteen's the high.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Have a great day. Even Ryan Bridge, seventeen away from
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Sex you're on news talk, said but we're going to
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: get to Donal tomorrow. Out of Australia. Next bit of
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: a scandal about the tanks they're sending to Ukraine. News
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Talk said B. News Talk c THEREB. It is fourteen
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: minutes away from six. If you're just joining us and
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: catching up with the news. This morning, there's been a
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: phone called Trump's been on the blower to Putin. Putin
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: has come out and said basically where we will look
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: to do something. Trump's just posted to his truth social
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: He says the call went very well. He said Russia
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: and Ukraine will immediately start negotiations toward a seasfire and
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: more importantly bring an end to the war. We've heard
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: that before, haven't we. It's fourteen to.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Six International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance Peace of
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Donad Tomato's with us this morning. Our Australia correspondent on
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: a good morning to you. Good morning now, speaking of Ukraine,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: there's questions over some old tanks being sent there.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, well, these tanks are on the way. We've just
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: had confirmation that the first of these forty nine Abrams
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: tanks have been put on a cargo ship and are
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: on their way to Ukraine. There's a hired tanks. Of course,
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: now the ABC has confirmed that they're on the cargo ship,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: but there's these whispers that keep surfacing that American officials
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: don't think that the arrangement is quite a good idea
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: because they're saying they might not be that useful on
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: the battlefield. Apparently these tanks. The weakest point on these
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: tanks is the roof. And we know that this is
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: called a drone war. What's happening over in Ukraine so
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: interesting perspective from the Americans. The fact is that they
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Australia had to get permission from the US before they
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: were allowed to even export these tanks to a third country.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: So just sort of interesting little rumblings there. But we
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: do know that Ukraine President of Vladimir Zelensky has actually
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: thanked the Prime Minister and that was just recently because
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: they met up in Rome. As we know, there's been
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: a lot happening in Rome.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Lately, has very quickly. What's different about this new octopus
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: species found off west coast of Australia.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's just fascinating. So this tiny little it goes
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: to four centimeters. It's called the canarve and flapjack. It's
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: just been named and it was found off the West
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Australian coast by the CSIRO. It's a shape shifter. It's
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: got huge eyes so it can see on the seabed,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: you know, so we can find its food. It's got
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: blood red tentacles and it's super super, super duper rare.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: So I just thought it was fascinating that they found
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: this very unique octopus in Australia.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very cool. I'll tell you all about it. Very small,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: by the sounds of it, very cool.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Tiny, only grows to four.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Cinemets and a big eye. It must be all I
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: basically musters. Hey, Donald, think thank you for that. Really
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: appreciate your time. Donald, Australia correspondent, just kind of living
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: away from.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Sex Brian Bread.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: How the government says it's going to help infrastructure investment
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: in New Zealand seventy five million dollars over the next
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: four years to encourage foreign investment in New Zealand Infrastructure.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Also wants to make it easier for startups to attract
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: and retain high quality staff. Infrastructure ends ed ce you
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: nickle get with me this morning. Nick, Good morning, low Ryan.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Now how is this going to work?
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  Speaker 11: Well, this is another sort of tweak in the infrastructure system.
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: The government has been moving sort of step by step
• 28:32
  Speaker 11: to make improvements, and you know, in itself it's on
• 28:35
  Speaker 11: a massive tweet. But essentially, what they're going to do
• 28:39
  Speaker 11: is allow foreign known companies to fund a higher proportion
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: of their investment in New Zealand subsidiaries through debt. At
• 28:47
  Speaker 11: the moment, they can't do that, and what that means
• 28:50
  Speaker 11: is that it's going to reduce the government's ability to
• 28:53
  Speaker 11: collect tax on that investment. And so that's what this
• 28:59
  Speaker 11: sixty five million and is actually really just income tax
• 29:02
  Speaker 11: revenue that the government thinks they're going to forego as
• 29:05
  Speaker 11: a result of this change. What it does is that
• 29:08
  Speaker 11: sends the signal that New Zealand is a better place
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: to invest in infrastructure, that there are hum incentives at play,
• 29:16
  Speaker 11: and that's really important because we are at the bottom
• 29:19
  Speaker 11: of the world. We don't while we've got there's great
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: confidence in our government and our and our democracy, in
• 29:26
  Speaker 11: our systems, they do have to be incentives to get
• 29:29
  Speaker 11: people to want to put money into New Zealand, which
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: in turn grows our economy.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: As you said, this is sixty five million dollars over
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: four years it's not going to change the world overnight
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: very quickly. Is there a what would be a big
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: ticket item you'd be looking for in the budget?
• 29:45
  Speaker 11: Well, it's really you know, there might be some projects
• 29:48
  Speaker 11: that the government want to move faster on. So perhaps
• 29:52
  Speaker 11: projects that they are they've investigated and that they want
• 29:55
  Speaker 11: to drive faster. There might be some more money potentially
• 29:58
  Speaker 11: perhaps for the Auckland Second Harbor crossing. It could be
• 30:01
  Speaker 11: things like that, or new road, school or hospital projects.
• 30:05
  Speaker 11: But I would say this, you know the Prime Minister
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: heads Investments some of a couple of months ago. That's
• 30:10
  Speaker 11: sending the signal to the world that New Zealand is
• 30:13
  Speaker 11: wanting to partner where it comes to building infrastructure. That's
• 30:16
  Speaker 11: really important because we know we've got this massive infrastructure
• 30:19
  Speaker 11: gain and if people want you know, and we do
• 30:21
  Speaker 11: want stronger economy to be more productive, to be able
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: to pay for those schools and hospitals and in a
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: stronger standard of living over time, infrastructure is vital for that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: And so I think this is a good move from
• 30:35
  Speaker 11: the government and it's one of a number of small moves,
• 30:38
  Speaker 11: but they all equal hopefully greater strength in our infrastructure market.
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: And the fact that we're going to be building more
• 30:44
  Speaker 11: pretty soon.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Moving into by Nick, appreciate your time. That's infrastructure
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: and MCR Nick Leggett. Yeah. About as significant as that
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: al to put stay found in Australia. But you know,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: and when you add them all together, hopefully you get
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: yourself somewhere. It is eight minutes away from six News
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• 31:02
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• 31:07
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• 31:11
  Speaker 1: News Talks B.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: It's the sixth on News Talks B. The services sector
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: going backwards again, battling for momentum. The services sector makes
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: up two thirds of our GDP, so it's quite important.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Business endzs PSI for April was forty eight point five.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: That's down point four. Anything below fifty is going backwards
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: and we are below the average, which is fifty three,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and we're trending. We were trending coming up towards fifty.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: But it seems to install all of our trading partners,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: with the exception of the UK, we're now an outlier two,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: all of them above fifty, the US fifty point eight,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the eurzone fifty point one. You get the message. All
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: of us talk about the economic recovery. Basically, they're saying,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: this is the reality check. It is still tough out there,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and it increases the risk that we don't hit our
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: growth forecast of two percent this year. It's five two
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: six Bryan Bridge this morning, Hi, Mike.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Big announcement this morning, Ryan seven thirty.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: What's happening?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: More money on rail? So Winston, Yeah, probably because he's
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: pro rail. So you got six hundred million, aren't you
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: desperate to know where this money is coming from? You
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: think about all the announcements that have been made in
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks, hundreds and hundreds of I
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: mean we're into billions now.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: So and I heard you talk about the taxing. Yes,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: say that's pocket change, that's you know, sixty seventy eighty
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: million dollars. That's nothing, that's a that's token. So you're
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: into billions of dollars. Where's the where are the billions?
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Where are they reprioritization? Well that's fine, So what are
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: you reprioritizing. Who's losing out somebody.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Somewhere loan money you got. I mean there's a whole
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: bunch of stuff that they'll cut, Like what well, we
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: That's the point. Aren't you desperately Aren't you desperate.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Or I'm semi fizzed, or are you worried.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: They're going to borrow more money? And if they borrow,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: if they borrow more money, you don't think they're going
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: to borrow more money. I think I think they got.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: More money by virtue of the fact that we're spending
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: more money.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: No, that's true. So in other words, I'm saying more
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: top of that time, I do. You don't think they will.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I don't think they can, but I think they might.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Politically they can't. I mean, how stupid would they look?
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Pretty stupid? But I said to the Prime Minister yesterday
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: who was where I am right now, And I said,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: I you better not be borrowing more money. And you
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: know he's one of he's one of those people who
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: doesn't hide stuff well visually and you can tell when
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: he's got the sort of look of alarm about him,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: going oh shouldn't I.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Oh what maybe I have? So I would know you
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: you think, and that from a glint in his eye
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: you think they're gonna want it wasn't a.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Glint it was, But no, my my feet as they are,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: and that's because it's somewhere someone's paying for all of us.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: And I just says, just this morning, six hundred million dollars.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Where's it coming.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: No, we can't be borrowing more, and we're borrowing more
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: than I'm getting on the plane to Australia.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Are you promise there?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Have a great day, everyone, Mike's Next.
• 33:55
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