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CFB, NFL and HSFB Talk, UTSA Head Coach Jeff Traylor · The Craig Way Show

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  Speaker 1: We welcome you to Tuesday here. A Tuesday on Sports
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  Speaker 1: to get to on the program today. Coming up here
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  Speaker 1: in just a few minutes, I'm going to bring some
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  Speaker 1: more Sark sounds, some more.
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  Speaker 3: Audio from Longhorn's head football coach, Steve Sarkisian. We'll do that.
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  Speaker 1: There were some things we didn't get to yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: some important pieces of audio.
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  Speaker 3: We'll play that. We'll also hear from Arch Manning.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll hear from him. But also coming up this
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  Speaker 1: coming up later this hour. 3 o'clock hour, our weekly
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  Speaker 1: conversation with Greg Tepper, the editor-in-chief of Dave Campbell's Texas
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  Speaker 1: Football Magazine to talk college and high school football. across
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  Speaker 1: the Lone Star State. We'll get his feedback on the
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  Speaker 1: weekend of football and not just as it pertained to
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  Speaker 1: the Texas Longhorns, but the other teams in the league.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll get his thoughts on that and then talk
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  Speaker 1: some high school football with him as well. In the
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  Speaker 1: four o'clock hour, the Longhorns are playing, as we know, UTSA,
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  Speaker 1: the University of Texas San Antonio, UTSA on Saturday night
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  Speaker 1: at DKR Texas Memorial Stadium. Jeff Traylor is the head
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  Speaker 1: coach of the UTSA Roadrunners. Jeff Traylor, who was a
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  Speaker 1: fabulous high school coach out of East Texas and Gilbert,
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  Speaker 1: multiple state championships, that sort of thing, then was actually
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  Speaker 1: on Charlie Strong's staff in Texas briefly. And, uh, then
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  Speaker 1: was up at Arkansas and then ultimately got the head
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  Speaker 1: coaching job, his first collegiate head coaching job at UTSA.
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  Speaker 1: And he's done a tremendous job there. He will join
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  Speaker 1: us in the four o'clock hour. We'll visit with coach
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  Speaker 1: trailer and get his thoughts on his teams to a
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  Speaker 1: no start and this matchup with Texas.
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  Speaker 1: There's a couple of college football things that I do
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  Speaker 1: sure that we, uh, get to, this was again, some,
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  Speaker 1: some pieces of sound we didn't get a chance to
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  Speaker 1: the news conference. And we just kind of set it
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  Speaker 1: up and tell you what the question was. So that's
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  Speaker 1: what we were doing yesterday. But we didn't have a
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  Speaker 1: chance to get to all of them because of other
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  Speaker 1: things that were going on. So there were a few
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  Speaker 1: responses left that I wanted to get to. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: and these are kind of important we're talking about. When
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  Speaker 1: you play a team like Ohio State, and even if
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  Speaker 1: you're not playing a major team, division one college football
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  Speaker 1: powerhouse like ohio state is they're one of the dynastic
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  Speaker 1: programs in college football no question about they've won seven
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  Speaker 1: national titles you know they they won a national championship
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  Speaker 1: a couple years ago and of course they'd had scoreboard
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  Speaker 1: on texas uh the last two times i mean going
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  Speaker 1: into the game last saturday night the series only stood
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  Speaker 1: 3-2 favor of the buckeyes because they'd not met until
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  Speaker 1: 2005 the texas national championship season longhorns won that You know,
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  Speaker 1: that memorable matchup up in Columbus, 25-22. Ohio State returned
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  Speaker 1: the favor down in Austin the next year and won
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  Speaker 1: 24-7 en route to winning the national title. Then they
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  Speaker 1: met in the January 2009 Fiesta Bowl following the 2008 seasons,
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  Speaker 1: and Texas won that heart-stopping finish. Colt McCoy to Kwon Cosby,
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  Speaker 1: game-winning touchdown pass with seconds to go. They won that
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  Speaker 1: one by a score of 24 to 21. And so
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  Speaker 1: Texas actually had a 2-1 lead until they started up
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  Speaker 1: the series. But before they started the series, they met
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  Speaker 1: in the semifinals of the college football playoff going on
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  Speaker 1: two years ago, 16 months ago. And it was in
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  Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl and Ohio State won that one, 28-14.
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  Speaker 1: And then they started the season last year in Columbus
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  Speaker 1: and Ohio State won that 14-7. So Ohio State had
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  Speaker 1: a 3-2 lead in the series. And Texas was able
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  Speaker 1: to square that and maybe answer some questions in some
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  Speaker 1: folks' minds about, you know, whatever did Texas have. I
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  Speaker 1: heard this mentioned a lot last week, an Ohio State problem,
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  Speaker 1: a Georgia problem, you know, because since they've been in
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  Speaker 1: the same league with Georgia, they haven't beat them. They
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  Speaker 1: beat them in the Sugar Bowl when Tom Herman was
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  Speaker 1: coaching following the 2018 season, but have not beaten Georgia yet.
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  Speaker 1: in two regular season meetings and in the SEC championship game,
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  Speaker 1: which went overtime, but they lost all three of those meetings.
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  Speaker 1: So somewhere down the road, perhaps they'll have that opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to square that up and get things flipped around. But
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  Speaker 1: in describing those games, what folks have taken the call
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  Speaker 1: on is talking about tough, physical, bruising brand of football.
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  Speaker 1: And were the Longhorns strong enough to, to be able
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  Speaker 1: to make that happen. That included being strong in the
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  Speaker 1: running game. And so Sark was asked about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: being very run heavy in their practice periods. Remember they had,
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  Speaker 1: I think he mentioned they had like 16 consecutive carries
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  Speaker 1: or something like that, that they did.
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  Speaker 3: They were just running, running, running, running the ball.
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  Speaker 1: To make them tough in terms of getting the push
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  Speaker 1: from the offensive line and getting production out of the
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  Speaker 1: running backs. By the same token, on the defensive side,
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  Speaker 1: since we're talking about practice, having Will Muschamp's defense get
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  Speaker 1: accustomed to that, to the physical brand of that. So
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  Speaker 1: Sark was asked, did he see that those kind of
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  Speaker 1: run-heavy practices paid dividends for his team?
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  Speaker 4: I say it a lot in here, too. You guys
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  Speaker 4: have heard me. I always say, as a coach... you
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  Speaker 4: get what you emphasize, right? And we've been emphasizing being
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  Speaker 4: a more physical football team, being a more physical offensive
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  Speaker 4: team and running the football when they know you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: run the football and having the ability to do that
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  Speaker 4: and having the ability to have confidence to call it
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  Speaker 4: that way. And so, you know, like at the end
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  Speaker 4: of that game, you know, when we were down there
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  Speaker 4: first and goal, it was like, we're running it, man.
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  Speaker 5: And they knew we were running it. There wasn't a secret.
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  Speaker 4: We weren't going to call a bootleg or a tight
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  Speaker 4: end corner out or something. And so the ability to
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  Speaker 4: get that ball on the end zone is gratifying as
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  Speaker 4: a coach. that your players have bought into to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: what you're asking of them to get accomplished. But there
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  Speaker 4: was more than that. You talk about get what you emphasize.
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  Speaker 4: We had two penalties for 12 yards Saturday night. And
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  Speaker 4: we've been in these games before when it's been eight
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  Speaker 4: penalties for 98 yards, right? And the impact that those
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  Speaker 4: penalties can have. And so I was proud of our
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  Speaker 4: team for that, too, that we're playing a more disciplined
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  Speaker 4: brand of football right now. And so that was encouraging
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  Speaker 4: as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it was important to have that discipline, tough, physical
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  Speaker 1: brand of football. He was asked about some of his
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  Speaker 1: former players making NFL debuts and some like Michael Tav
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  Speaker 1: coming up with an interception in a ballgame and some
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  Speaker 1: other guys as well.
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  Speaker 4: And as far as our guys go, I mean, shoot,
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  Speaker 4: Manny Muhammad gets a pick. Michael Taft gets a pick.
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  Speaker 4: Ant Hill has 16 tackles. I mean, that's just to
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  Speaker 4: name a few right off the top. And so that
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  Speaker 4: part's gratifying as well, that we're developing our players to
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  Speaker 4: fulfill their dreams of playing in the NFL, not just
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  Speaker 4: making it, but playing and playing at a high level.
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  Speaker 4: And so that obviously was very encouraging and excited for
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  Speaker 4: those guys that they were able to accomplish all that.
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  Speaker 3: And there was one more piece of sound.
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  Speaker 1: Now, we played this as part of yesterday's show, but
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  Speaker 1: I feel compelled to bring it to you again because
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  Speaker 1: it's really taken on a bit of a national life.
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  Speaker 1: And it's talking about the issue of non-conference scheduling. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and sark has stood up right from the
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  Speaker 1: start and said we want to play these type of
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  Speaker 1: tough non-conference games and we should be rewarded for that
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  Speaker 1: win or lose you shouldn't take a hit on that
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  Speaker 1: and he felt the same way about ohio state so
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  Speaker 1: you'll hear that in the in the bite the the
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  Speaker 1: point i'm making about this is that uh it's become
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  Speaker 1: a national thing colin cowherd was playing it i was
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  Speaker 1: on uh as a guest on sec network radio this
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  Speaker 1: morning uh with peter burns uh and chris during uh
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  Speaker 1: during and daring and um They played it as well,
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  Speaker 1: and I saw it on SportsCenter. So it's become a
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  Speaker 1: really important part of the... this week coming off of
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  Speaker 1: that game, these matchups, these huge matchups in non-conference play
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  Speaker 1: and what their place is in college football with the
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  Speaker 1: possibility of the playoff expanding to 24 teams. ESPN's in
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  Speaker 1: that negotiating window right now where they get 30 exclusive
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  Speaker 1: days to negotiate in the event that the playoff gets expanded.
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  Speaker 1: The mere fact that the window was open to them
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  Speaker 1: has most folks speculating that the playoff is probably going
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  Speaker 1: to expand. Now, Greg Sankey yesterday wouldn't quite go there.
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  Speaker 1: He said it's not a foregone conclusion, but it is
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  Speaker 1: the next step in the process, that exclusive negotiating period.
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  Speaker 1: So Sark was asked about this, balancing the schedule in
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  Speaker 1: a nine-game conference schedule in a rough and tumble-grueling league
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  Speaker 1: like the SEC and the Big Ten has to deal
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  Speaker 1: with it. In fact, all the powerful conferences have their
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  Speaker 1: issues with it. Certainly the Big 12 and the ACC,
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  Speaker 1: but there seems to be more and more of a
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  Speaker 1: concerted effort to make sure you're scheduling beyond just your
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  Speaker 1: conference opponents to have more equity in terms of who
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  Speaker 1: you're playing. And Sarton made a point about that when
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  Speaker 1: talking about how this matchup should be viewed in the
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  Speaker 1: prism now in the rearview mirror.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a really good question because, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the brand is the brand. you know, and surely, There's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of teams that would want to play us
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  Speaker 4: in the event, right, in those games. And obviously television
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  Speaker 4: loves to have the brand on television and the viewership
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  Speaker 4: and all the things. And we've got a locker room
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  Speaker 4: full of players that come here to be part of
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  Speaker 4: those types of games. And we've got a fan base
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  Speaker 4: that loves to watch us compete at the highest level
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  Speaker 4: in those games.
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  Speaker 5: I've said this all along.
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  Speaker 4: We want to play in those games. There's so much
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  Speaker 4: about those games that matter. for a lot of reasons
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  Speaker 4: to be part of those games competitively the balance is
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  Speaker 4: when you take in humans and and they they're the
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  Speaker 4: ones that dictate who makes the playoffs like we're not
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  Speaker 4: the nfl where it's all based on what's your record
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  Speaker 4: who did you beat those are the teams that make
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  Speaker 4: it you make the playoffs based off of opinions of
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  Speaker 4: others essentially right outside unless you win your conference and
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  Speaker 4: so There's a fine line in that as what is
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  Speaker 4: the impact of that and what are the metrics that
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  Speaker 4: they're using to determine who makes the playoffs. And so
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  Speaker 4: that's the risk reward. You know, I hope Ohio State
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  Speaker 4: does not get punished for that game Saturday night.
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  Speaker 5: They played a heck of a game.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's 24-23.
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  Speaker 4: They lose a scorn with 25 seconds to go in
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  Speaker 4: the game that I hope If they end up being
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  Speaker 4: a 9-3 team, the committee can appreciate the fact that
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  Speaker 4: they came to Austin, Texas in September when it was
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  Speaker 4: 100 degrees and played us in that environment and played
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  Speaker 4: a heck of a game.
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  Speaker 5: And so they should not be punished.
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  Speaker 4: Quite frankly, Ohio State should be rewarded for playing in
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  Speaker 4: this game against us. And so that's my goal. Time
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  Speaker 4: will tell. And this isn't crying over spilled milk. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think we got rewarded for going to Columbus last
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  Speaker 4: year in week one. Hopefully this year they reward Ohio
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  Speaker 4: State for coming and playing in this game with us
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  Speaker 4: this year.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how their season goes. They may go 11-1.
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  Speaker 5: It's a moot point.
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  Speaker 4: But if they are 9-3, and depending on what happens
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  Speaker 4: to those other two, surely I hope they get rewarded
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  Speaker 4: for playing this game and not. Because if they don't
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  Speaker 4: reward them for playing in the game... then all of
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  Speaker 4: us start playing FCS power six. And then I don't
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  Speaker 4: think that's the product that we want in college football.
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  Speaker 5: You guys love it. We love it.
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  Speaker 4: Our fans love it. The players love it. The players,
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  Speaker 4: everybody loves those matchups. Well, if we want to continue
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  Speaker 4: with those matchups, we got to reward the teams for playing.
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  Speaker 3: In those games.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, so there's some from Sark. We're going to hear
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  Speaker 1: from some more from Sark later. Um, uh, Coming up,
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  Speaker 1: and by the way, let me just put a PS
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  Speaker 1: on this because I know folks have their opinions on
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing about where Texas was last year with
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  Speaker 1: the college football playoff. You heard Sark say he didn't
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  Speaker 1: feel that they were rewarded enough for having played the
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  Speaker 1: game in Columbus a year ago. You've heard Sark saying,
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  Speaker 1: if we didn't play that game, if we played somebody else,
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  Speaker 1: we could have gotten into the college football playoff, all
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  Speaker 1: of which is true. The counter-argument to that, and believe me,
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  Speaker 1: I heard it at nauseam as well, is, well, if
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  Speaker 1: you hadn't lost to Florida, you wouldn't be having this conversation.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: What is also true is if they hadn't played Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State and played somebody else, kind of like how Indiana
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  Speaker 1: and Notre Dame did with some of their scheduling, They
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  Speaker 1: probably would have won that 10th game. They would have
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  Speaker 1: been 10-2, and then we wouldn't be having the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, both things can be true, both, including
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  Speaker 1: if they hadn't lost to Florida, they'd be 10-2 and
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  Speaker 1: they'd have gotten in. If they hadn't played Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: and played a G6 team and won it, they'd be
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  Speaker 1: 10-2 and they would have gotten in. That's the plain
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  Speaker 1: and simple truth. So now you move forward with this.
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  Speaker 1: Texas wins a big game like that. Obviously, it might be,
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  Speaker 1: as Ryan Day was saying last week, a big data point.
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  Speaker 3: Might be.
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  Speaker 6: We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see how both teams do from here on out.
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  Speaker 1: Sarg's point was that Ohio State should not get a
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  Speaker 1: big smackdown for having played that game in Austin, having
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  Speaker 1: led for.
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  Speaker 1: You know nearly all of it nearly 59 minutes of
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  Speaker 1: the game and uh i guess counting the field goal
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  Speaker 1: early was like two and a half minutes in the
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  Speaker 1: game something like that so 57 minutes of the game
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  Speaker 1: um before falling to texas on their home field and
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  Speaker 1: he he doesn't think that they should have a negative
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: blowback because of it so anyway just wanted to wanted
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: to put that out there Coming up, we're going to
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: hear from Arch Manning. Also an update on something involving
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Arch over the weekend. So we'll, you know, let his
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: words set the record straight on this. And Holly Rose
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: as well. So we'll do that. We've got a lot
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: coming up right here on Sports Radio AM 13 Under
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: the Zone and the iHeartRadio app.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: It's worth all the years in the past.
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: No one will not die.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: In addition to everything else, it is a Texan Tuesday
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: where our return cuts are reflected by that. Included in,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: not necessarily limited to, but always inclusive of, these three
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: all-world Texas artists. In the 4 o'clock hour, we'll hear
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: from the king, George Strait. In the 3 o'clock hour,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: from the iconic Willie Nelson. And here in the 2
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: o'clock hour, as we lead it off with the immortal...
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Stevie Ray Vaughan.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Some things never change on Texan Tuesdays. One of those
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: is Stevie, like you said, this cut called Change It.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Why not? Before we get to hearing from Arch Manning,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Jake and I were talking during the break and we
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: were talking to Major League Baseball and later this week
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: we'll visit with Gene Watson because we're getting down to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: just like a dozen game left at most for teams.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Some have fewer than that.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Most teams have 11 or 12 games left, and there
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: is still a great deal that has yet to be settled,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: mainly in the wild card races, although the American League
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: West race up for grabs. And again, both the Astros
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: and Rangers hovering right around the 500 mark.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Again, giving some credence to.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: My speculation that there was a very real chance that
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the American League West Division winner will have a sub-500 record.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Well, it's all a game of tug of war. Every
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: time somebody gets a chance to run away with this thing,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: like the Astros who opened up that three-game lead They
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: lose three in a row and now their lead is
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: down to one game. And just when that opens up
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the chance for a team like Seattle to maybe claw
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: their way back into it, they lose in Anaheim. Kate
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Anderson didn't have it last night and the Mariners, it
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: is all but gone for them.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: You know, one of the most dehumanizing things that can
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: happen to a baseball team is a baseball team. And
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: you could, You could apply this in the NBA. You
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: could apply it in the NFL. But it really, because
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: there's more games in baseball, this seems to pop up
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: more often, or at least you hear about it more often.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: One of the more dehumanizing things that can happen to
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a ball club is to be in the thick of
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the fight or trying to stay in the thick of
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the fight for a playoff spot, a division title, whatever,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and they don't perform well and lose to a team
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: that is playing spoiler, has nothing to lose, and has
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: long since out of the race.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Padres avoided that last night. Close win over Colorado.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had to come back. And the Diamondbacks did
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: as well against the Marlins. They needed a Corbin Carroll
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: walk-off home run in the bottom line. I happened to
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: catch it live when it happened off of that. But anyway,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: what we were talking about, we were talking about different things.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: You said you saw Tristan Peters, what, 16 pitch at bat?
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: 16 pitch at bat.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: In a tie ball game in the sixth inning, Guardians-White Sox,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Peters does that, driving Gavin Williams' pitch count from 90
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: to 106. So all of a sudden, you get the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Guardians ace out of the game. It turned into his
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: last hitter. Peters gets on base. Then he takes a
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: smart angle around the base pass, turning what might have
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: been a double play ground ball into an error because
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: he didn't give Nathaniel Lowe a good throwing lane. All
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, it turns into a six spot in
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: the inning for the White Sox. They get a win,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: and that's huge for them in the American League Central race.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're up, what, a game and a half?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Game and a half.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: On the Guardians. So that thing is going to go
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: to the wire. So there's two division races that'll go
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: to the wire. I think the Rays are closing in
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: on finishing things in the East. The Braves still have
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: not locked it up. The Phillies kind of hanging around there.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: The Brewers probably will clinch tonight or tomorrow, something like that.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: And the Dodgers' magic number for wrapping up the National
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: League West is three. The reason it got to three,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Linda and I went out to grab a bite.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: To eat last night.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: And then we came back and we watched the Manning cast,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: which we did, and we were highly entertained.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: There was some great stuff.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Eli brought big-time game last night, embarrassing Peyton.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Did he really?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, just stats and highlights of Peyton getting sacked four
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: times by the Ravens when Mike McDonald, the Seahawks coach,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: who was one of their guests, was... on the defensive
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: coaching staff for John Harbaugh in Baltimore.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: And they showed just Manning just getting crunched.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: So there was a lot of that.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: They did a thing where Eli was comparing Mike McDonald
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: to Michael McDonald.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: And so they had a slide.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: That's right up your alley.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: So there's Michael McDonald.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And so he asks him, did people ever confuse you?
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And are you a fan of Yacht Rock? To which
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald said, I don't think anybody ever confused me.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: But he goes, I have to admit, I am a
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: fan of Yacht Rock.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: So he said that.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: And then Eli just launches into taking it to the
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: streets by saying, you don't know me, but I'm your brother.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: And he says, Peyton used to say that to me
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: when I was a kid because he's a fan of
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the Doobie Brothers.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: And Peyton goes, I'm so embarrassed.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: This thing has just completely gone off the rails. But
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: that's the kind of entertainment that is, especially when the
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: game had gone off the rails by then.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Man, I wonder if Eli should start sending Arch those
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: voice memos that he's talking about.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: He says, I get them from Peyton all the time,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: and they're long, and I ask for, you know, 10 minutes,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: or I.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Ask for one minute, and I get 10. Well, yeah,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and we're going to hear from Eli coming up a
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: little later.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: From Arch, you mean, right? I'm sorry. We're going to
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: hear from Arch. But here's where I was getting to.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: When we got back to the house, and we did
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: watch that, but we were also catching the end of
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers-Reds game. And the Dodgers have a 4-0 lead
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: going into the ninth.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Scooball.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Scooball was great. Best performance yet in the Dodgers. The
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: last three outings have been better, better, better.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Scary good.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So he was really good. Seven shutout innings. Then
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: they got a shutout eighth out of Alex Vessia. So
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: they go to the ninth, and Evan Phillips is pitching.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And so I think there's one out in the ninth.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and L.A. De La Cruz comes up. And if you
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: don't know about L.A. De La Cruz, you really need
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to check it out. This guy is a superstar in
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the making. He's got all the tools, all the gifts.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: He's amazing. Here's the other thing. He has homered in
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: every game against the Dodgers this year. The games out
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: in L.A. did all three. Dodgers won all three, but
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: he homered in the ninth. So he comes to the
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: plate in the ninth, 0-3 for the ninth as defensively,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Scooball just dominated him, struck him out twice, once looking,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: once swinging. He got him to ground out another time.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: So he's out for three and he comes to the plate.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: And there were actually two outs in the ninth. So,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you know, he's at the plate and Evan Phillips is
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: working and he's kind of working carefully and it gets
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: to three balls and two strikes. And I just said aloud,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: sitting there watching it with Linda, I said, Evan, like
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: he can hear me, of course, Evan, just throw him
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a fastball. If he hits it into the Ohio River,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you're still up three runs. Phillips throws him a fastball,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and he came very close to hitting it into the
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Ohio River. It sailed out of the ballpark. It was
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: well over 450 feet. It was amazing. It was a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: monstrous shot. Dodgers won the game 4-1. The reason why
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I say this now is we get ready to go
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: to break. It brings up topic that's going to be
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: part of inconceivable oh okay all right so that's coming
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: up now.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: What did he did he sign with the dodgers already
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: no no but it's all deferred and he's like a
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: one million dollars next year yeah.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Linda's like i have hope he's going to be a
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: dodger when they were like settle down okay don't worry
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: about that right now hey.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: That's realistic yeah yeah they're signing.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Everybody yeah we'll see all right but anyway uh what
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: he did last night is part of inconceivable. Not the
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: blast itself, except the tail end of it. It brings
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: to mind something else that you may not know about
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the state where that was hit. We'll get to that
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: coming up here on 13 Under the Zone. Second hour
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: of the program here on Sports Radio AM 1300 The Zone.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Craig Way alongside.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: The producer, Jay Kerman. With you all the way up
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: until 5 o'clock this afternoon. Reminder, coming up in a
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: few minutes, we'll talk football with Greg Tepper, Editor-in-Chief, Dave
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: That's coming up in a few minutes.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: And the 4 o'clock hour head coach of the UTSA Roadrunners,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Jeff Traylor, will join us. So we'll look forward to
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: bringing you that conversation as well. There were a couple
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: of things to get to from Longhorn's head coach, Steve Sarkisian,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and then a couple of things from Arch Manning. One
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: from Sark yesterday was asked about the vibe that he
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: was getting from his players. What was he seeing, hearing,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and feeling from his players as they began to mount
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the comeback?
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: I think there was a real sense of poise and composure.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I felt like the demeanor of our guys was, we're
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: gonna come back. We just need to continue to do
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: the things the right way. And a lot of things
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: had to line up. If we don't get two, three
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: and outs, that's another... three minutes off the clock that
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: impacts how the end of that game goes. So it
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: was us playing complimentary football. You could feel each side
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: working with each other of wanting to get off the field.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: The offense knew the value of a third down stop.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: We got now it's nine minutes to go. We're getting
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: the ball. We still need two scores.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: And so, you know, the defense realizing, Hey, We just
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: scored to cut it to a six-point game. Holding them,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: not being able to get points is critical. And so
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: when they got into field goal range, you could feel
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: the aggressiveness of Coach Muschamp calling it, Bo Masco making
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: the play on the fade. And then you could feel
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: the rush on field goal block to try to affect
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: that kick, knowing then they make that kick. It's a
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: nine-point game. Now we need two scores again. And so
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: you could just look at the excitement by our players
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: on defense when he misses the kick. I mean, Juice Cryer,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: is so excited he knows Now it's a one-score game.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Our offense can go down and win the game. So
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: I think through it all, I thought there was great
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: clarity by our team, poise and composure, but yet the
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: execution that it took in working and playing complementary football, offense, defense,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: and special teams all working together.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Which then engendered the question that you knew had to
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: be coming and everybody could have a chuckle about it.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Was there a moment? What moment was it where he
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: felt like they were definitely going to win?
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: When Grayson was laying on the ground with the ball,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean. shoot, they threw it up and
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: the ball's bouncing around. I'm thinking, man, they got an
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: alien on the other side. If he catches it, we lose.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, it can happen. So I don't ever feel
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: like that. I just feel like, man, if we can
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: just execute, we will get back in the game. And
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: if we get back in the game, we have a chance,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: you know, and these games have been very similar. It's
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: just three times in a row against these guys and
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: they're really good. I mean, Two years ago in the semifinals,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: we have the ball inside the 10-yard line to tie
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: the game. Last year, we get stopped twice inside the 10.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: We still have the ball with two minutes to go
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: to go drive again down 14 to 7. We didn't
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: quite execute the way we needed to in those moments
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: to make it happen. I felt like this year, we
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: were executing up until that point to be like, if
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: we can just get one more shot, we're going to
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: go down and score and we're going to win this game.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: And I felt like the guys did do that. There
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: was great execution. I mean, a couple of the passes
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: to Emmett on that last drive that the curl route
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: he catches over the middle, the slant route he catches
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: in the low red to get down to the one,
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: like the execution was at a high level in those moments.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: And so, um, I just felt like if we could
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: just have enough time that, that we would have a
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: chance to go do it. And, but I, Hey, I didn't,
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: I didn't feel good until like the game was like
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: the clock was at zero. I mean, I was watching
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: it tick down and I'm like, please hit zero, you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: because I just know they're really good. Like, Ohio State's
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: a really good team. They weren't number one in the
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: country on accident. They're a very good team.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. And then one final thing from Sartre. I
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: was asked what he learned, if there was anything. And
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not a real big fan, I'm going to tell
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: you this. I have never asked this question of a coach,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: even a coach I've worked with an awful lot. I've
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: never asked the question, what did you learn about your team?
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Because the coach has been with them months and months
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and months. Yeah, you still learn some things about your team. But,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: you know, it almost makes it sound like you didn't
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: know anything about it. What did you learn about it?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: That sort of thing.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I'm guilty of that sometimes with high school coaches. I've
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: started going, what did they show you?
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: That's good, too. And I will say this, too. You
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: can make an exception on this. When you have newer
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: players in your system, And even though Hollywood Smothers and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Raleigh Brown have been around for a few months, still,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: he hadn't seen them, you know, really have to respond
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: in a game crisis situation. So he was asked what
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: new things he might have learned about those two.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: They're both really tough.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Hollywood Smothers and Raleigh Brown are really tough and they
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: love football. That is what I've learned about these guys. Like,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: They are in the moment. They're engaged. They're picking other
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: guys up. They're talking to the offensive line. They run
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: the football with passion. They blocked. They were competing at
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: a really high level Saturday night. And that's something you
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: don't know until you actually get into the fire with them.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: And I've learned that about zero and two for sure.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Those guys are great competitors.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I want to move on to Arch Manning here before
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: we get a break, and then we'll visit with Greg Tepper.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: No doubt by now you've heard all about the things
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: that happened with the attempts by ESPN to interview Sark
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: both at halftime and at the game's conclusion. The halftime
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: thing was just kind of a combination of meltdown stuff
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: from the ESPN side. They took a long while when
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Holly Rowe was interviewing Ryan Day, get that set up
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and the director get it out to him there and
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: they did that. Uh, then they were going to Laura
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Rutledge who was with Sark, but the problem was after
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: he was waiting two, three, almost four minutes, the, they
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: had a camera malfunction. And so Sark finally said to,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to a Laura Rutledge, I got to go. And she
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: gets to understand, go ahead. And he takes off. And
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: then she mentions later that's on us, not on him.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: He waited patiently. That was all in the statement. It
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: was in the tweet, all that sort of stuff. She
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: said it on live television. When the game ended, Holly
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Rowe went over to talk to Sark. And again, the
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: waiting game was underway while Chris Fowler and Kirk Herbstreit
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: were finishing the recap of it. So he wanted to
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: celebrate with the team. And when they got it down
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to him, he said, that's Texas fight.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Hook him. And he ran off.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: And you can tell Holly wasn't real happy about it,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: you know, in the shot. And so a lot has
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: been said and posted, you know, should Sark have run off?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: You know, is it an entitlement thing of the networks
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: to have those deals? And probably both wish that it
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: could have gone a little more smoothly. Arch Manning wishes
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: what happened yesterday could have gone smoothly in his press conference.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: And we'll hear some of his press conference things from
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: yesterday where he's talking about the game and on Saturday
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: night and all that kind of stuff.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: But he was also asked, was it Evan V that
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: asked him?
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: And he's with?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Inside Texas.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Inside Texas. So Evan asked him if he'd watched.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Any of those AI fan edited clips of, and he said,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I've seen a few AI edits of stuff, but that's
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: about it. I saw an AI edit of Sark's interview,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and he started chuckling. He goes, have y'all seen that one?
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: It's a good one of him slapping Holly Roe.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: It's hilarious. Now, Sark never... Obviously slapped her.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: There was an AI creation of him, you know, whatever,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: slapping her and then running off and, you know, doing
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: And I saw another one.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I saw another one where it was AI generated where
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Sark was supposedly flipping off the camera with a cigar
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: in his mouth. They got that from the fact there
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: was a cigar in the post-game press conference there.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: So a lot of people did a lot of stuff.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: That's what AI can do and give that impression. Well,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Manning saw it and he laughed about it. And all
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: the reporters were laughing. I had left before Arch came in.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I had to get back here and get ready for
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: But understanding that room and knowing, I'm guessing the reporters
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: were laughing as much because it was a real kind
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: of unusual bit of emotion and lighthearted stuff from Arch,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: who's usually pretty businesslike. So it made them laugh and
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Arch was laughing at the deal. However, however, to laugh
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: at that was definitely going to make a lot of
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: people unhappy. And, you know, about making light of violence
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: toward women, even though it wasn't true, it was all
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: AI generated and so on and so forth. And there
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: were a lot of people that were defending him on that,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: saying like, he's laughing at a meme, come on. But
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: there were enough people who probably, you know, many who
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: took offense at it. Arch giving this thought, on all
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: of this, decided to issue an apology for it today.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: And here was the apology. Quote, he said, in my
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: press conference yesterday, I made an insensitive comment about an
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: AI video. There's nothing funny about it. It's easy to
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: say I didn't mean it, but I know my words
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: and actions were hurtful to a lot of people. I
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: do not take that lightly and I'm deeply sorry for that.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I specifically want to apologize to Holly Rowe for what
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: she has personally had to deal with because of my comments.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I have a ton of respect for her, and appreciate
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: her showing me grace in this moment. I need to
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: do better, and I'll be more thoughtful going forward. Holly
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: then replied on X on Twitter, and she said they
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: discussed it. She said, thank you, Arch. I appreciate our
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: conversation about this, which will remain private. Apology accepted. We
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: move forward with respect and kindness for one another. So
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: there it is. Arch made comments about it, was joking
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: about it yesterday, and something not to joke about. He
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: said he realized that, had his apology, and Holly said,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: apology accepted. We have kindness and understanding.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Let's move on. And so they moved on. So hopefully
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: he does. I mean, I know people are going to.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Still say things and post things and things like that,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: but that's from the principals involved. They made their peace
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: with it, and they have moved on. All right, coming up,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: we'll talk football with Greg Tepper, editor-in-chief of Dave Campbell's
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Texas Football Magazine on 13 Under the Zone. As we mentioned,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: in the 4 o'clock hour, we hear from the King
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: George Strait. In the 2 o'clock hour, the immortal Stevie
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Ray Vaughan. 3 o'clock hour, we bump back with the
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: iconic Willie Nelson. What drove you to this particular selection, Jake?
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Well, we hadn't gone with devil in a sleeping bag
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: just yet here on the program. And who knows, Texas
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: exercising some demons of their own on the way back
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: to Austin this week.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: The devil's in the details, that's for sure.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: My good friend and the editor-in-chief of Dave Campbell's Texas
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Football Magazine is known for having a devilish grin from
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: time to time.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: That's Greg Tepper, who joins us now. And you do,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: you do.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I could just see you grinning on that tweet you had.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Was it was it sunday night or was it yesterday
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: where you said something like dallas fort worth media you're
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: welcome yeah in the aftermath of uh the cowboy sunday
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: night debacle right.
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: So I'm not a Cowboys fan. My family moved back
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: to Dallas when I was gaining football consciousness when I
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: was about 11 or 12. But that's when the Cowboys stunk.
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: That's when the Cowboys had Quincy Carter as their quarterback.
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: They weren't very good. And so I was like, I
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: feel like I'm going to let this pitch pass by.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: And that.
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: It affects.
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: My brother's a big Cowboys fan. And I have a
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: lot of friends who are Cowboys fans. And enough friends
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: that I think are... That I root for them.
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: But I will tell you.
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: And I want them to succeed because I want my
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: friends to be happy and experience joy. But also, I've
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: just got enough pain in my life. I've just got enough...
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: I don't need it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: I don't like... And so.
• 40:32
  Speaker 8: And then I also know that like around, and I
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: think this is in any NFL city, a loss and
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: especially a nationally televised loss and especially a nationally televised
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: loss to like a rival that you've dominated for a
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: long time.
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: Good for content.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: It's a good, it's a good content, good content production. I, I,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I dare say it probably is.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Um, Let me get your thoughts.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I know when I'm on your program on Thursday, you
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: asked me what the vibe and the pulse down here is,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: and you can imagine it's going to be really upbeat
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: after what happened here on Saturday night as well. But
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: what's the statewide vibe you get, not only about Texas,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: but about the college football scene this week? Interesting matchups,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: North Texas playing at Texas State, and Texas State is.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Trying to get off the deck.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: UTSA is coming up the road here. North Texas comes
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: off an impressive win over UNLV. And then TCU kind
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: of got back to work and SMU got back to
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: work and all those as well. But your thoughts on
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the overall vibe that the folks in the office there
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: are getting?
• 41:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's kind of a mixed bag.
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: Obviously, you see what Texas did, and obviously, that's the headline.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: I don't need to.
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: Pump anybody's tires down there in Austin. You guys are
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: well aware. That's the big headline there. I think you
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: are correct to mention North Texas. What they did to
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: UNLV in the first win under Neil Brown was really impressive.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: And when you.
• 41:57
  Speaker 9: Pair that with... what I.
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: Would classify as a good loss in week one to
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: the national champs in Indiana, where they went on the
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: road and played the team that's the reigning national champs
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: and played okay, didn't embarrass themselves, didn't go out there
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: and get trounced. I think that is really positive. There's
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: a lot of positive. I thought what UTSA kind of
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: able to get the win on the road at Texas
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: State in a really nice back and forth affair. I
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: thought there's a lot of positivity coming from there. I
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: think there's positivity coming from the hilltop with what we've
• 42:32
  Speaker 8: seen so far, especially from Kevin Jennings. He's been fantastic. Now,
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: it's not all sunshine and daffodils. Now, I will say
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: it's interesting because there's two programs that I think The
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: standards are so high that even though they won, there
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: are enough red flags to look at it. One of
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: them is Texas Tech. They beat Oregon State, and we
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: don't apologize for wins about stuff like that. But there
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: are still some concerns, right? The offense looked a little
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: bit out of sync.
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: The defense... I think they're missing kind of that war
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: daddy on the defensive.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Side right now.
• 43:06
  Speaker 9: Let's not say they won't come along. And then there's
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: A & M. And A & M, look, they beat
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: Arizona State. And again, we don't apologize for wins.
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: But it's one of those things that the more you
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: dive into it, the more you're like, oh, wow, there's
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: some concerns here. They got outgained pretty severely in that
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: game by Arizona State.
• 43:26
  Speaker 9: And A & M wasn't able to get a pass rush.
• 43:31
  Speaker 8: Now, again, they forced a bunch of mistakes, and Arizona
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: State kept handing the ball over to them, and we
• 43:36
  Speaker 8: don't apologize for that. But I think that it's one
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: of those things that with those particular wins, they maybe
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: weren't as emphatic. as maybe their fans were hoping. So
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: I think overall, the state of the state is good.
• 43:49
  Speaker 8: But we'll find out a lot more kind of moving forward, obviously,
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: as we get more data points. But more importantly, as
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: we see if these kind of concerns that we have
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: for teams that have been winning kind of manifest themselves
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: in any sort of meaningful win-loss way.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: How good is SMU? Hard to tell down here.
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: I think they're pretty good. I think that they are
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: in a legit ACC contender. I mean, look, last week,
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: you know, they dominated in their win over UC Davis.
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: That was never going to be a challenge for them.
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: But to go on the road, we talked about it
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: when they go on the road and beat Florida State
• 44:29
  Speaker 8: in week one.
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: That says something.
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: I have a couple of small concerns about their defense,
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: but I do think that offensively, they've got the guy
• 44:38
  Speaker 8: in Kevin Jennings that if he can stay upright and
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: they can continue to protect him, the sky's the.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Limit for them.
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: Now, look, I think the ACC... is overall stronger than
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: maybe people give them credit for. I think that it's
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: a really good, I think it's a pretty good conference.
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: Obviously Miami at the very top, but there's, I think,
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: some depth within that conference that makes it You know,
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: difficult is particularly Louisville, Virginia, programs like that.
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: But I think that SMU is right there in that mix.
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: And they're going to have an opportunity to make some
• 45:14
  Speaker 8: noise and play an ACC championship game if things go correctly.
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: You just got to make sure they maintain.
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: And I think, again, I think the biggest thing is
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: got to make sure you keep Kevin Jennings upright. As
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: long as he's upright, things are going to be going okay.
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: But if he were to get injured or he were
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: to get kind of banged up a little bit, that
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: could be a real problem for them.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I would ask you the same question about Houston with
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: the added emphasis based on what you said about Texas Tech.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: This business Friday night on the South Plains could be
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: pretty interesting, couldn't it?
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: This is a big game.
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: This is a really big game because I'll tell you what,
• 45:48
  Speaker 8: Houston so far, no notes.
• 45:50
  Speaker 9: They have been as advertised.
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: They have been kind of, I would say they're like
• 45:55
  Speaker 8: the sexy pick in the Big 12 right now, just
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: because what Willie Fritz is his history and what he's
• 46:01
  Speaker 8: been able to do. They've looked great in their first
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: two weeks. They have looked cohesive. They've looked dominant, especially
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: on the defensive side, which I think is really important
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: for them. But here's their test. They get to go
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: on the road to Lubbock on a Friday night, much
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: to the chagrin of Cody Campbell, that they will have
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: an opportunity on national television to make a statement and
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: to establish themselves, knock off the defending Big 12 champions.
• 46:29
  Speaker 8: I think Houston's got a real shot in this game.
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: I think that they are understandable underdogs on the road
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: in this one. But they're not going to walk in scared.
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: And we've been big believers in what Willie Fritz is
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: building there. We think that they've got a real good
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: shot to go up there and knock off the Red Raiders.
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: It'll take a lot because they're hard to beat anywhere.
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: They're especially hard to beat in Lubbock. They're especially hard
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: to beat in Lubbock at night. But that, I think,
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: is something that is obviously a huge, huge game and
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: will go a long way towards determining what the Big
• 47:00
  Speaker 8: 12 championship looks like. And we said this a lot
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: in the high school ranks. This is one of those
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: games where it wouldn't be a surprise if this is
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: the first two meetings.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Greg Tepper, editor-in-chief of Dave Campbell's
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Texas Football Magazine, joining us here on 1300 Zone. Let's
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: jump to the high school thing. And you think the
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: collective high school community got a vision of.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Paddles, stand back, woo! Oh, we got a pulse. It's DeSoto.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: They're still alive after that duel in the Cotton Bowl
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: with Duncanville last Saturday.
• 47:34
  Speaker 9: Man, I said this on my show yesterday, on Monday.
• 47:38
  Speaker 9: I think it's okay for us to just say about
• 47:41
  Speaker 9: some certain teams, I don't know. And with DeSoto, we
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: caught some.
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: Flack for dropping them out of the 5A rankings after
• 47:49
  Speaker 8: they dropped to 0-2. Now, they played, obviously, an extremely
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: difficult schedule at that point with that team from Florida.
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: And then they played Allen. But they had basically been
• 47:58
  Speaker 9: functionally non-competitive for two games. And then suddenly they come out.
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: And they find a way past, you know, Duncanville in
• 48:07
  Speaker 8: what can only be described as like a Herculean performance
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: from Sir Rod Baker. He's like throwing up on the
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: sideline and then missing one play and getting back in
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: there and taking the snap. They have built the whole
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: plane out of Sir Rod Baker. I think that I'm
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: of two minds with DeSoto. On one hand, my concerns
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: are still persist as far as they've got to find
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: a secondary weapon outside of Sir Rod Baker. They've got
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: to be able to unload the box because otherwise they're
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: just going to keep running him and running him and
• 48:37
  Speaker 8: running him. And just frankly, nobody's got that kind of
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: tread on their tires for that last 16 games, which
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: is what they hope they play. On the other hand,
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: they're done playing 6-18s. Like, they've made it through their
• 48:50
  Speaker 8: brutal non-district schedule. They're 1-2. They're battered and bruised, but
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: at the same time, they're now into district play. They
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: played an unbeaten Burleson Centennial team this week, but I
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: think they're better than them. A couple weeks from now,
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: they play Lancaster. That is a real test, but at
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: the same time, they're now playing teams within their weight class.
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: So we'll find out more about it. I still have
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: my concerns, and I think that there are major... not
• 49:15
  Speaker 8: major but there are persistent concerns about what the offense
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: looks like but we don't apologize for beating Duncanville like
• 49:23
  Speaker 8: that's that's a really nice win punching up and getting
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: a win I have some concerns about Duncanville now and
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: by the way they're staring down the barrel yeah yeah
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: they're staring down the barrel of one three taking on North.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Crowley this week Yeah, that's where I was going to
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: go next is like how much concern should one have
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: for Duncanville given the fact of who they played and then,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: you know, Allen summarily kind of slapped them around a
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: little bit and then now they've got to deal with
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: a North Crowley team that's really, really good.
• 49:51
  Speaker 9: Yeah, now again, similar situation.
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: Their two losses are to DeSoto. We just got done
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: talking about them. And then Allen, who has looked like
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: the best team in Texas so far. But the issue
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: for them is twofold. One, and my colleague Matt Stepp
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: mentioned this to me because he went and we watched
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: the DeSoto-Duncanville game at the Cotton Bowl. He said one
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: of the things about Duncanville this year is that, he
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: says twofold. One, they're not as big as they usually are,
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: like physically large. Like they do not have the kind
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: of beef.
• 50:20
  Speaker 9: And God knows we've watched enough Reginald Samples football over
• 50:23
  Speaker 9: the past decade or so.
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: We know that that guy likes beef. And they don't
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: necessarily have that. They also, and this is the point
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: he brought up, they don't have that defensive war daddy.
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: They don't have that guy who, they don't have Colin Simmons.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 50:38
  Speaker 8: Where in the past, it was like, oh, they've got
• 50:42
  Speaker 8: a bunch of really good players, but that guy over there,
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: like he's a cyborg.
• 50:46
  Speaker 9: They don't have that right now. And so I think
• 50:48
  Speaker 9: that's one of the things I'm concerned about.
• 50:50
  Speaker 8: And kind of speaking in the same way that I
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: talked about DeSoto, if you want to say that DeSoto, okay,
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: they get into district play, things lighten up for them.
• 51:00
  Speaker 9: This is the wrong district for you.
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: To have some flaws because right now, taking on North
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: Crowley this week, and then in a few weeks, they're
• 51:07
  Speaker 8: taking on Waxahachie, the number one team in the state. So, yeah,
• 51:11
  Speaker 8: I think that there's real concerns about Duncanville this year
• 51:16
  Speaker 8: that maybe there are some holes that they may not
• 51:19
  Speaker 8: have the personnel to fill in 2026.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: How for real.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Is Prosper.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: You just saw them last week. They beat Westlake. They
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: can obviously get to use your term, pointsy. They can
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: do that. Now, acid test this week, playing Allen. But,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, are they legitimate to have a shot to
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: beat them? I mean, look, they just beat Westlake.
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: They just hung 49 on Tony Salazar defense. That goes
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: for something. Their offense is electric, okay? They've got a quarterback,
• 51:55
  Speaker 8: Tyler Albert. He's not, I want to say this in
• 51:58
  Speaker 8: a nice way, like he's not, like walking off the bus,
• 52:01
  Speaker 8: he's not going to impress you all that much. Like 5'11, 170,
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: but man, when the lights turn on, this kid is
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: incredibly at eight total, seven total touchdowns against Westlake last week.
• 52:14
  Speaker 8: He's got two big time receivers. One of them, Marcus McCoy.
• 52:17
  Speaker 8: The other one, they've got a tight end. They use
• 52:19
  Speaker 8: a ton, Elliot Brown. That combination of those three is dynamic.
• 52:24
  Speaker 8: They are fun to watch. The defense is giving up
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: 40 points a game. And it's really interesting because last
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: week on our coaches call going into that game, Tyler Moore,
• 52:33
  Speaker 8: their head coach, he's a great guy and super candid.
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: He just told us, hey, we're better than a 40-point
• 52:38
  Speaker 8: game defense. We put ourselves in a bad situation. Special
• 52:41
  Speaker 8: teams and turnovers and stuff. He's like, we're better than that.
• 52:44
  Speaker 8: And they give up 40 points on the dot to Westlake. Now,
• 52:47
  Speaker 8: they've won every game. I'm not sure that's going to
• 52:51
  Speaker 8: work against Allen, but you never know. If you've got
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: that flamethrower in your back pocket, you can go out
• 52:58
  Speaker 8: there and do it. They are a fun team to watch.
• 53:02
  Speaker 8: Your entertainment dollar goes a long way with Prosper.
• 53:05
  Speaker 9: They are fun.
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: Um we will find out a lot more this week
• 53:09
  Speaker 8: against allen as district play opens to get him at
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: home on a thursday night in a raucous crowd there
• 53:15
  Speaker 8: um it should be fun but can they like this
• 53:19
  Speaker 8: this would be as impressed this would be more impressive
• 53:22
  Speaker 8: than beating westlake which is saying something because beating westlake
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: is is always impressive.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: No doubt about it uh all right uh As Greg
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Tepper joins us, time for what we like to call
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the meanest thing we do each week. He actually coined
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: that phrase. I just kind of hopped on board with
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: it since he's been with us. And I give you
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: three games and you tell me what you think of
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: the three games and you go from there and pick
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: one game out of it. Now, let me just say
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: this before we get started. You have a real humdinger
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: of a game in your own right. I was actually
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: going to have it on the list.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, no, no.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Wait, you guys are doing Argyle Highland Park, right?
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: We are.
• 54:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we're doing Argyle Highland Park.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Give me a breakdown of that before I give you
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: the game that I'm going to give you from that area.
• 54:09
  Speaker 9: First of all, whale of a coaching matchup.
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: You've got two top 30 all-time winningest coaches, and Randy Allen,
• 54:13
  Speaker 8: number two, and Todd Rodgers, number 27 or so, in
• 54:17
  Speaker 8: all-time wins. These guys are ball knowers. Argyle's a beautiful
• 54:21
  Speaker 8: new stadium. Argyle off to a really fast start. Hayes Hackney,
• 54:24
  Speaker 8: the move-in from Prosper Walnut Grove. He's got a full
• 54:27
  Speaker 8: complement of weapons, including Julian Caldwell on the outside, who's
• 54:30
  Speaker 8: a legit blue chip wide receiver. Really like their defense.
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: Highland Park is interesting. They started 0-2. Their defense really
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: was getting gashed by good teams, by Louisville and by
• 54:41
  Speaker 8: Rockwall Heath. They played last week against Tyler and looked
• 54:44
  Speaker 8: a lot more Highland Park. They've got their outstanding quarterback,
• 54:48
  Speaker 8: Buck Randall, who is now the leading passer in Highland
• 54:50
  Speaker 8: Park history. Yes, more than Matthew Stafford. And he is really,
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: really playing at a high level right now. My question
• 54:59
  Speaker 8: is going to be, can the Highland Park defense, is
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: it a lot more like we saw last week in
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: their win against Tyler than it was in the first
• 55:04
  Speaker 8: two weeks?
• 55:04
  Speaker 9: It'll be a challenge.
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: I think, again, we'll have a pointy affair on Friday
• 55:08
  Speaker 8: night on our broadcast.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 55:10
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: So here are the games I'm going to throw at
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: you here and see what you think of this. So
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: I'll keep it with a 5A matchup, whether you're talking
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: D2 or D1. because it involves another team that I'm still,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know if struggling is the right word, but
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: still looking to try to get a handle on.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: And that's Weiss.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: And they're at home against an unbeaten College Station team.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: This Weiss team beat Round Rock, but they've turned around
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: a loss since then. Round Rock, by the way, goes
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: out and beats Dripping Springs. I've got Round Rock Vandegrift
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: on Friday night, which should be an awful lot of
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: fun over at Monroe Stadium. But what's your take on
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: College Station at Weiss at the field in Pflugerville?
• 55:49
  Speaker 9: Whale of a game. I'm so excited about this one
• 55:52
  Speaker 9: for a lot of reasons.
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: One of them is that this is a game of pace.
• 55:59
  Speaker 8: The way I would describe College Nation is they move deliberately.
• 56:02
  Speaker 8: They're a team that moves at a deliberate pace. They've
• 56:05
  Speaker 8: got really nice players like Noah Semeny, their quarterback, and
• 56:09
  Speaker 8: Trey Walton, but their defense is kind of what leads
• 56:10
  Speaker 8: the way.
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: Weiss.
• 56:12
  Speaker 8: is not deliberate in their pace. Weiss is like all
• 56:16
  Speaker 8: systems go, like as fast.
• 56:18
  Speaker 9: As you can go.
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: Playmakers galore, Jackson Shad, Trey Moore, Jordan Anderson. I think
• 56:23
  Speaker 8: a lot of it comes down to pace. A lot
• 56:25
  Speaker 8: of it comes down to whether or not Weiss can
• 56:26
  Speaker 8: play defense. That's kind of the biggest thing on this
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: one is can their defense match up with what their
• 56:31
  Speaker 8: offense is doing. The other thing is that there's a
• 56:33
  Speaker 8: fascinating story here because the College Station has had Weiss's
• 56:37
  Speaker 8: number Last year, Weiss gave up a double-digit lead, a
• 56:42
  Speaker 8: halftime lead, and lost to College Station. They did the
• 56:45
  Speaker 8: same thing to A & M Consolidated. I know that
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: sticks in Malcolm Hill's craw. Can they find a way
• 56:53
  Speaker 8: past that and make sure history is behind them? We'll
• 56:56
  Speaker 8: get huge, huge District 12 5A Division I opener.
• 57:00
  Speaker 9: A massive district game.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: All right, you can choose between that game or either
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: of these other two.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Also.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Out of five AD2. How about Brenham, Port Natchez, Groves?
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: And then I drop all the way down to six, man,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: for Borden County and Rankin.
• 57:16
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: So which of the three are you at? If you're
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: going to be at one of them? If you weren't
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: doing Argyle Highland Park, which of these three would.
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: You have did?
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: I'm probably up at the field.
• 57:26
  Speaker 8: I'm probably up at the field in Pflugerville because of
• 57:28
  Speaker 8: that and the district implications there. But Brenham P &
• 57:31
  Speaker 8: G is really interesting too. P & G, one and two,
• 57:34
  Speaker 8: just got beat by Fort Penn Crawford at home. Now
• 57:36
  Speaker 8: they got to go on the road to Brenham. Jacoby
• 57:38
  Speaker 8: Dixon is back. Like, Jacoby Dixon, the ballot of Jacoby Dixon,
• 57:43
  Speaker 8: their superstar running back, is really strange, but they're glad
• 57:46
  Speaker 8: to have him back. He's been fantastic. They're up to
• 57:48
  Speaker 8: a 3-0 start. And then, yeah, you know I can't
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: pass up. a good six-man action, Borden County and Rankin.
• 57:53
  Speaker 8: That'll be a lot of fun. Rankin, the team that
• 57:55
  Speaker 8: took a loss earlier this year, but they got right
• 57:57
  Speaker 8: back on the saddle last week. By the way, I
• 57:59
  Speaker 8: don't know if you saw, but my colleague Ashley Pickle's
• 58:03
  Speaker 8: parents went to Strong for Gordon Strong.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Did they go?
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: And they were.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 58:08
  Speaker 8: And they were sending me photos all throughout the night.
• 58:10
  Speaker 8: Like I'm working and they're like having the time of
• 58:13
  Speaker 8: their lives, eating at Mary's and like watching, watching like
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: elite level six man football at a great stadium there.
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: And so like, I was like, I like my job,
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: but that would have been a better job.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: No doubt about it.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Should we have Stephenville on upset alert playing at Abilene Wiley?
• 58:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Wiley's really sneaky. I think Wiley's really sneaky.
• 58:35
  Speaker 8: They've got some... The question for Stephenville and beating them
• 58:39
  Speaker 8: is always a matter of can you match up with
• 58:41
  Speaker 8: them up front. Go back to their title against Kilgore
• 58:45
  Speaker 8: last year, where that game was a full-on taffy poll,
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: scoreless at half.
• 58:51
  Speaker 9: It was because Kilgore matched them up front. Now, here's
• 58:53
  Speaker 9: the thing.
• 58:54
  Speaker 8: Stephenville's winning up front on the other side, too. I
• 58:56
  Speaker 8: think Wiley's one of those rare teams that can... match
• 58:59
  Speaker 8: up with them up front and i think that could
• 59:01
  Speaker 8: give the yellow jackets a little bit of trouble if
• 59:03
  Speaker 8: they're not careful.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Final thing here.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: That aforementioned Gordon Strawn game.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Should we be.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: More impressed by the fact that Gordon has now won
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: 47 in a row, or should we be more impressed
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: by the fact that it was a full game and
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: that Strawn lost by 18 points and they weren't 45
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: like Gordon seems to do to just about everybody else?
• 59:26
  Speaker 8: One of those games, and Dwayne Lee will not take
• 59:29
  Speaker 8: any solace in me saying this, but I look at
• 59:31
  Speaker 8: that as a pretty decent result for Strong. Remember, that's
• 59:33
  Speaker 8: a 180-2 team punching up to a 180-1 team that's
• 59:36
  Speaker 8: won three straight state championships. For them to hang, I mean,
• 59:39
  Speaker 8: Gordon won every game last year by the 45-point mercy rule,
• 59:43
  Speaker 8: so that's at least a streak of... and I think
• 59:47
  Speaker 8: the first two they did as well, so at least
• 59:49
  Speaker 8: a streak of 17 in a row of the Mercy rule.
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: So for them to hang in the ballgame that long,
• 59:53
  Speaker 8: I think is a credit to Strawn.
• 59:55
  Speaker 9: They'll be just fine. I ain't worried about them.
• 59:58
  Speaker 8: I think they may have dropped one spot in our
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: rankings just because that's a pretty impressive performance against a
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 8: team that is of according to statute, the only issue
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 8: is that it's like they're arch rivals, so it stinks altogether.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: He's Greg Tepper, editor-in-chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: I take it you haven't been bombarded with ticket requests
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: like you were last week for Texas Ohio State for
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Texas UTSA this week.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: No, not as many.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 8: Not as many people asking me which Austin area game
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 8: they can go to for this.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 9: But, I mean, there's a good one you're going to
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 9: be on down there.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: A couple really good ones in Austin. Yeah, yeah. There'll
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: be a couple of good ones. Hey, appreciate it, Tepp.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: Thanks. All right, play, guys.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: That is our Tuesdays with Tepper segment there with Greg Tepper, editor-in-chief,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. We have more coming up
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: when we continue on 13 Under the Zone. Here on
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Texan Tuesday. Thanks again to Greg Tepper, editor-in-chief, Dave Campbell's
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Texas Football Magazine. Joining us, Clint Black. Where's Clint from
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: other than the state of Texas? Yeah, born up in
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: New Jersey. Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Raised in Katy.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: I always liked him. I had this CD.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: In fact, there's a better man on there.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: So that one. That song is killing time. It's killing me.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: We had a couple of questions to get to. You
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: hit me with one of them. You said, was this
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: on a talkback or was it just another one?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a talkback just a little while ago.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I don't have a name on this. They only left
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: their email address. But here's the question for you.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 10: Can you please get Craig to explain the two time
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: stoppages with under a minute in the game Saturday night.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 10: One at 51 seconds, the other one at 34, both
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 10: of them on running plays.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: Thanks.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I know that one was stopped for, well, they both
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: got stopped when the line in the game was achieved.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: So they stopped the clock for that. Then they put
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: it back in motion. But a timeout was called. Texas
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: took one timeout in there. And then the other one
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: might have been a review game.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they were looking on the second down run.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: They were looking. I think Sark wanted them to look
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: and see if the ball was in. Right.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: And then Ohio State wanted to look for a fumble.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: To see if Smothers fumbled the ball. And in fact,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: he did. But it might have been difficult to overturn
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: the result of it because it was a mass of humanity,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: whether the knee was touching down. And in any event,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Amari Winston fell on it anyway.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: And so then there was this sort of game of chicken.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: I was worried Ohio State was going to get out
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: of there keeping a timeout from a Texas perspective.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Well, they had to use the timeout. That was one
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: of them. That might have been the one. That might
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: have been the first stoppage. Because a player lost his helmet. Right.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: And they had to spend the timeout or there would
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: have been a 10-second runoff. And I even said that
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: on the broadcast. They're going to have to use a
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: timeout here or it's going to tick down.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: And I thought when they used that timeout, they were
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: then going to let Texas score.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: They didn't do that.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: And they didn't.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: They decided maybe they're remembering a year ago when they
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: stopped Texas at the goal line and thinking they could
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: do it again.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: It could have been that.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Okay. So that was.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: And then we had somebody else texting in a question?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: No, just on the text line.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: So also... We had the question coming in on the
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: text line. Somebody's saying, it's been well documented about Texas'
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: struggle in the red zone the past couple of years.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: On Monday, it is presser.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Sark mentioned his concern over turnovers in red zone defense,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: but no mention of his red zone offense, which currently ranks...
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: smack dab in the middle of the pack of the
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: SEC at number eight. Hopefully he recognizes that this area
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: needs improvement, not just the defense. I totally agree with you.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: And he did make one reference to that. So we've
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: got to be better in the red zone. He did
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: say that. The thing about the current ranking, Uh, it's a,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: it's kind of a small sample size given who, uh,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: they were playing in Ohio state as opposed to some
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: of the other teams like, you know, Georgia playing Western
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Kentucky and in some of those, but I do think
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: we'll get a better read on it as these next
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks go forward. And as you heard him say,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: he's really concerned about ball security, wanting to make sure
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: that the guys take care of the football. And yes, the, the, uh, uh, he,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: he mentioned, um, not so much red zone defense, third
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: down defense, where they're like last in the SEC. Third
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: down defense. That's an action item for sure. But it's
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: a good question there. And it's something that they'll get into.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: And I'll ask him about it on the show tomorrow
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: when we record Longhorn Weekly. I'll ask him about those
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: areas of concern and see what his thoughts are on
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: that now that they will have had a couple of,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: you know, hay in the barn practice days under their belt.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back to wrap up our number
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: two on 13 Under the Zone. Third and final hour
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: of the program here on Sports Radio AM 1300 The Zone.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Craig Lane joined by the producer Jay Kerman. If you're
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: watching us on YouTube, you see Jake on the right.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: His face will be replaced here in a few minutes.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: By that of Jeff Traylor, the head coach of the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: UTSA Roadrunners.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Much to everybody's relief.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: We'll have him come up. Arch, did you get a
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: chance to watch any of the Monday night game last night?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. I saw a big, big chunk of it.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 9: Saw all four Bo Nix fumbles?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: It was a tough night. Tough night for him. And
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: tough night for the Broncos. They couldn't tackle very well.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Kenneth Walker III... Looked like the
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: third and the fourth and the fifth. I mean, he
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: was running through, what, 173 rushing yards, scored a couple
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: of touchdowns, one on that little shovel pass. And, you know,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: much to the contrary of some of the reports, despite
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: reports of contrary, Patrick Mahomes looked pretty able.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was always coming, right? Patrick Mahomes with something
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: to prove, rushing it in. on the first touchdown of
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: the year. Andy Reid with something to prove, getting creative,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: dialing up his patented shovel pass, finding a way to
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: get Travis Kelsey an explosive play in the second half
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: after he looked pretty old and quiet for the first
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: three quarters of the game. And, you know, Eric Biennemi
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: being back, some familiarity between him and Patrick Mahomes. He
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: didn't quite work out at the other stops, but I
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: think Kansas City is welcoming him back to that facility
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: with open arms. The Chiefs defense looking good. Mansoor Delane
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: standing up to the test on his first big night.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: So I think the Chiefs came out and played a
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: really crisp game. The Broncos looked like they had a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: first-time play caller last night.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's exactly what the case was. And it
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: ended up coming up on the short end of that one.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: So week number one is fully in the books. around
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: the National Football League. Coming up in a few minutes,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: like I said, Jeff Traylor, head coach of the UTSA Roadrunners,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: will join us.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: Let's hear a little bit from Arch Manning.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: In case you didn't hear, Arch did, by the way,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: issue an apology to Holly Rowe for making light of
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: or laughing at that AI-generated video thing, and she accepted
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: the apology and said, hey, you know, he said, nothing
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: more needs to be said. We move on from here.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: with friendship and understanding and that sort of thing, and
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: so they move on. As far as coming off the
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: game was concerned, Arch was asked for his thoughts on
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: the performance overall in the game.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 7: Proud of the way the guys responded late in the game.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 7: It's always good getting a win, but there's a lot left.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 7: We didn't play to our standard, so we got a
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 7: lot of room to go.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: Also, he was asked about the mental transition.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: To uh to big games like that and how that's
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: gone for him i.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 7: Think it's a credit to our coaches and the way
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 7: they coach and it's a four-quarter game obviously i'd like
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 7: to start faster um not have to wait till the
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 7: fourth quarter to play well but uh that's something we're
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 7: uh putting an emphasis on this week and to try
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 7: and start fast versus utsa.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: One of the guys who helped turn it around was
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: the tight end amari winston made a big fourth down
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: catch recovered a fumble uh offensively to keep a drive
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: going he was discussing how proud he is of of
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: the progress that winston has made i always knew amari
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: was a gamer he practices really hard um he's a
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: stud and i'm proud of the way he came in
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: and did his thing and i think he'll continue to
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: do that as we go along the season arch took
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: some hits in the game on saturday night how's he
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: feeling physically i felt.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 7: Great yesterday i'm starting to feel a little more today
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 7: i don't know why i'm a two-day sore guy but
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 7: uh feel good.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Anytime you get a win, you feel.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: A little better, too.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right. And how'd he go about celebrating the win?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 7: Went up and saw my family, hung out with them
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 7: for a while, and then hung out with some friends.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: And went to bed. It wasn't as crazy of a
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: night as I was thinking.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: Texas is now number one in the country.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Art, your thoughts?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the rankings really don't matter until the playoffs. Nothing
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 7: matters besides winning games every week. And UTSA is a
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 7: really good team. They're 2-0. They have some confidence. And
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 7: we got a lot to prove. We left a lot
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 7: on the table. We're just scratching the surface.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: All right. Did he have a message to his teammates
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: right before the game-winning touchdown?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know what Trevor said. I probably... I don't
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: remember what I said, but I remember it was... It
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: was a lot. We were fired up.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's what you play for, you know, ball
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 7: at the one-yard line to win a game.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: That's what it's all about.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: That's something that Trevor Goosby had said that he had
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: talked about. And then he was asked about the fact
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: when Hollywood Smothers went down on the second down play
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: and the ball did come loose on the turf, Amari
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Winston fell on it. And did he know that all
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: of that had happened in that sequence?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: Whenever the ball is on the ground, I try and
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: go over there too. That's what we're taught. So heads up,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: play by Amari.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, all right.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: How about the benefits and the drawbacks of being in
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: a quarterback family? You think about that, and then you
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: think of Owen McCown, the UTSA quarterback, the son of
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: Luke McCown, and his thoughts on the pluses and the minuses.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I hung out with him some of the summer.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 7: He's a really good guy, good player. He had a
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 7: great year last year. But I think the advantages of it,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 7: you get a lot of advice. They've been in your shoes.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 7: You can lean on them. I think the disadvantage, yeah,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: I mean, the comparisons, you've got to take that with
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 7: a grain of salt. Everyone's their own person. You try
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 7: and take bits and pieces of their games, but you've
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 7: got to be you.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: What about the communication he's been having with Sark in
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: his helmet?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: It depends.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 7: That was really the first time he was like, hey,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 7: look for him in here. That was the first time
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: that was happening. It was super clutch. He goes fourth down, convert,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: and goes to Emmitt.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, big pass to Emmitt Mosley there on fourth down.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: How did he balance the frustration that can happen with
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: those early turnovers on the first two drives?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 7: It was definitely a weird start. My first two throws
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 7: were turnovers. It wasn't a good feeling. I thought I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 7: could have responded better with some good drives after that.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 7: Kind of hit a lull there for the five drives
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 7: after that. So I would like to respond better to
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 7: that adversity and not have some of those drives, but
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: I thought I could have done better with that.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: And then it was asked for flashback moments that he,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: he really likes to have the opportunity for what happens
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: during the summer.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 7: When we are in those summer workouts, I'm thinking about
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: playing Ohio state. I'm thinking about playing Ole Miss, LSU, OU,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 7: A & M, all those games. And then before the game,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 7: I'm thinking back to those summer workouts, how hard we
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 7: worked in those moments when we're built for this. And
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 7: I think our coaches, coach Becton, coach Stark do a
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: good job of making us uncomfortable and, Monday through Friday
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 7: to make us feel comfortable in those moments in the games.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: Okay. All right.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Now we have the new indoor slash outdoor practice facility,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: the Frank and Woffordinius practice facility. It's beautiful.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: And it's there.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: And they can raise those garage doors and go outside
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: to practice and come back inside. And a lot of
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: the players are saying, you know, the best thing about
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: it is it's 450 parking spaces directly underneath. So guys
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: aren't getting parking tickets and that sort of stuff. So
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: does that help to be able to warm up there just,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: you know, adjacent to the stadium?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 7: I think that definitely helps. Shout out Donald, our trainer,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 7: his idea. I want to give him credit for that.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 7: But I thought that was a good idea.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: We'll hear some more from Arj coming up a little
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: bit later on this hour.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: But up next.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: We turn our attention to the UTSA Roadrunners and Head
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Coach Jeff Traylor to join us when we continue on
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: 13 Under the Zone and the iHeartRadio app. Well, as
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: we always say here on a Texan Tuesday, we're always
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: pleased to have on a return cut some of the
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Texas musical legends of our lifetime.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: For that matter of.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Any lifetime in the 2 o'clock hour, we hear from
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: the immortal Stevie Ray Vaughan, and we did. In the
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: 3 o'clock hour, we hear from the iconic Willie Nelson.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: What was the Willie Nelson tune that you hit us
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: back with?
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: It was Devil in a Sleeping Bag.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Off the Shotgun Willie album from 1973. Very nice.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Very nice. And in the 4 o'clock hour, we hear
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: from The King. George Strait. So we hear from him,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: and this particular one is what?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Up from San Antonio, I.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Think it is?
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Home in San Antonio.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Home in San Antonio.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: Because it will be up from San Antonio.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: From the album back in 1991, The Chill of an
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Early Fall.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Now this is a cover of a Bob Wills and
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: the Texas Playboys tune, right?
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 7: Okay. Okay.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 9: So.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: We're going to visit here with Head Coach Jeff Traylor
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: here in just a few moments. I think we're just
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: making sure that we've got our connection. all squared away
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: and ready to go here. Also, a reminder about when
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: we'll be able to bring you the contest on Saturday evening.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: The game, I'm told, is actually going to have a
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: kickoff of 7.02 p.m.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: So it.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Won't be like the Ohio State game, which is, you know,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: listed as 6.30 and then it ended up being 6.50
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: on the kickoff. It was an hour and 20 minutes.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: And we were told in advance it was going to
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: be $ 649, 000. So we were told it was going to
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: be $ 649, 000. So anyway, so that's– at least in this case,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: it's going to– start right at 702 or the kickoff
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: will be. And that's in large measure because remember it's
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: an SEC network plus telecast. So that's why, and they
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: usually just get right down to the business instead of
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: it being the main event and that kind of thing
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: with ABC and ESPN. And so anyway, that's that's the
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: story about our coverage on Saturday will actually begin at
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: three o'clock on Saturday afternoon. And, uh, it'll, it'll begin
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: with the third and Longhorn podcast guys preview show. So, uh,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: there's that then, uh, at four o'clock will be the
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: Longhorns game day program. That's from the Bevo Boulevard and
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: that's down in the, uh, Winship area. And, uh, the, uh,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: And that'll be down there with Mike Hardball-Harge and also
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Mark Henry and Jake Herman will all be there for that.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Do you have Eric Henry back this week?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: I'll actually be out this week.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: Oh, that's right.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: You're out this week.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: That's right. Cameron Parker will be stopping by.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. So anyway, so that's at 4 o'clock with that.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: So anyway, and then, of course, the kickoff at 7.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: All right. As we mentioned, here's Texas getting ready to
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: play UTSA, and it's always a privilege and a pleasure
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: and a lot of fun to visit with a friend,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: a guy whose state championship games had the pleasure of
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: calling back when he was tearing it up at Gilmer,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: of course, to Gilmer, Texas, native, and the head coach
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: of the UTSA Roadrunners, Jeff Traylor, joins us. Now, I
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: appreciate the time and you look rather serene this afternoon.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: Is everything at peace given the fact that you have
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: a good football team and you're right in the belly
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: of the beast in terms of your schedule and getting
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: ready before you start American Conference play?
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 11: If you had just got through watching the horns rally
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 11: in the fourth quarter like that at DKR, how serene
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 11: would you be, Craig?
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Listen, point taken. I understand. Let me get you to start.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: with your team and that rally to win that game
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: in San Marcos. I had it on a big laptop
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: in the broadcast booth, and the two games, starting and finishing,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: were overlapping, but I couldn't help but continuing to sneak
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: a peek and seeing how your guys rallied back. And
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: I also understand this, and I think you'd mentioned this
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: once before, and I know some of the players have,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: that it means a lot in this matchup with Texas State,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: the I-35 rivalry and all of that.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: And I know that all.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: Plays into it, but it was about also getting a
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: football victory and getting a 2-0. How about your review
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: overall of what you've seen of your guys in the
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: first two weeks and especially that turnaround and the comeback
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: and the win?
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know how good we are. I don't
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: know if we're as talented as we have been.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 11: We were intentional this portal window to get guys that
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 11: we knew very well, we had a relationship with. We
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 11: didn't chase talent as much as we have in the past.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 11: We chased production on the field and character. So we're
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 11: not as big, we're not as fast, but we have
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 11: unbelievable team chemistry.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: I think we were just grittier Saturday. We just lasted longer.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 11: It felt like some of my older teams, I used
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 11: to coach those first four years.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 6: We just hung in there. We were down 17 to
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 6: Saturday at halftime. No one blinked. All right.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 11: All 78 that traveled were eyes on head coach.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: I know that seems silly. We had great body language.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: I told them we were getting the ball first. As
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: long as it was fourth and five, no matter where
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: it was, we were going to go for it. I
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: didn't care where it was.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 11: And wouldn't you know, it'd be fourth and six on
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 11: about my minus 40 on the opening drive. And we
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 11: went ahead and went for it. And Owen made a
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 11: clutch throw. David Amador made a heck of a double pass.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 11: They got the momentum going, and we outscored them 24-9
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 11: that quarter and had a touchdown.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Callback, so 31-9.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: It was a good call on the callback, so 24-9.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: You have talked about, Bill, and we've talked about your
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: 210 and triangle of toughness and things of that nature.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: And it's in this day and age, in the ever-changing
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: landscape of college football, and I know you had some
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: of your best players that were kind of cherry-picked through
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: the portal and things of that nature. And it sounds
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: like that you were able to go back and, and
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: get some other guys coming in. It sounds like commitment
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: from the administration and the athletic department and things of
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: that nature. How important is it to have that type
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: of commitment that, that, uh, you've spoken of and others
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: have spoken of in the past in terms of not
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: only building a roster, but in this day and age,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: maintaining a roster.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 11: Well, y'all played against one of them, uh, Devin McEwen,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 11: the receiver that started on the other side of Smith.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: You know, he was a, I taught his mother, uh,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: At Jacksonville, when I used to be a teacher and
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: a coach.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 11: That's painful, right? But I'm thrilled for him. We have
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 11: upped it, but it's not to the level anywhere near
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 11: where you guys are. Like I say to everybody, everybody
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 11: wants to talk about Texas and Georgia and Ohio State.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 11: We can't even talk about that. We've got to get
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 11: in the level of Tulane. We've got to get in
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 11: the level of South Florida, Memphis. We've got to conquer
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 11: our league first. As far as revenue sharing, fundraising.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: We got to get there first.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 11: If you can win the AAC and get invited to
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 11: the playoffs, then you can have the discussions about what's next, right?
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: We're the sixth largest city in the country.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 11: We got a lot of eyes on our football team,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 11: but winning is what gets that going.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: So I.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: Am grateful.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 11: We have committed more, but we're far from reaching Tulane,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 11: South Florida, Memphis, those guys. As far as that, but
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 11: I'm thrilled with my administration to move me closer.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: It's a lot better than getting moved the other way.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: We are moving in the right direction.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 11: We knew when we got in the AAC, it moved
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 11: the goalposts on us quickly. But then when college football
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 11: changed so crazily, it really moved the goalposts on our
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 11: administration and me as well.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: And we're just trying to keep up, Craig. We really are.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Well, and this is kind of along the lines of
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: the types of questions that I ask when we do
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: the panel discussion every year at coaching school. But does
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: the fact... that Tulane and James Madison both got in
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: and there were two G6s to get into the playoff.
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  Speaker 1: And I understand the P4s get an automatic bid now,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe that makes the quotient a little more difficult
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  Speaker 1: to manage, but does the fact that it has happened
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: serve as proof that that can happen, that the G6s
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: can continue to state their case, winning the proper amount
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: of games and good scheduling and all those kinds of
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  Speaker 1: things to have a shot to get into the playoff?
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  Speaker 11: Well, it should here because we're the only team to
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 11: beat them. We beat them, you know, handily at home.
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  Speaker 11: What you can do, you can jump up. But to
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 11: be consistent and play week in and week out, you
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 11: need real depth, which means you got to have, you know,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 11: a deeper financial bucket to go to to get some backups.
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  Speaker 6: You just can't have, you know, your starters. So. Yes,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: it should, and it is.
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  Speaker 11: My administration knows that we're not as far away because
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  Speaker 11: we've done it, but we've got to invest more, and
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 11: we know that. But as far as compared to Texas
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  Speaker 11: and Ohio State, we're so far away from that. When
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 11: y'all won't, or not y'all, when one of our kids
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 11: gets to the portal and he ends up, there's nothing
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 11: we can do about that.
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  Speaker 6: That number's just too large. We've got to fend off
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  Speaker 6: the guys at our conference.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Traylor's with us right now.
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  Speaker 11: You.
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  Speaker 1: Say this.
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  Speaker 3: Even Matt Brown, I remember saying.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: This to me one time and saying it, that coaches
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: love every one of their teams.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: They love them.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: They don't necessarily like every one of their teams for
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: various and sundry reasons. The impression that I've always gotten
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: from you, going all the way back to Gilmer, but
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: certainly with UTSA, is that not only do you love
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: all your teams, you try to find something to really
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: like about your group. It's safe to say you have
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: that same feeling about this group, not only that you
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: love them because you're around them and you work so
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: hard with them, but that there's genuine things to like
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: about this group.
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  Speaker 11: Well, I've been a head coach 22 years, so the
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 11: way I look at it, I've had 22 children. What
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 11: I mean by that is I've got three personal children.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 11: I've got Jordan, I've got Jake, I've got JC. I've
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 11: had 22 teams as a head coach. Each one of
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 11: my children, they're very easy to love. Not all of
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 11: them are easy to like at times. One of my
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 11: children is easier to like. I won't name which one.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 11: One of my other children is less easy to like.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 11: I won't name which one. And one of my children
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 11: is kind of just right in the middle. They're all different.
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  Speaker 11: God made each one of them uniquely different. It's no
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 11: different than your teams. I've had 22 of them. This
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 11: team is easy to like. We don't have as many
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 11: great players as we've had in the past. We're not
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 11: as talented as we've been. But man, all the details
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 11: these guys have handled, all the little bitty things these
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 11: guys do. Being down 17-7 on the road at your
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 11: rival in that heat is tremendous stress, pressure. Owen McCowan
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 11: hadn't beaten them. They'd beaten us two.
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  Speaker 6: Years in a row. The way they rallied did.
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  Speaker 11: Not shock me because of the people they've been since
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 11: I started coaching them in January.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, do your three biological children know which
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: one that you like more than the other and like
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: lesser or in the middle? Do they have an inkling
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: even though you haven't told them?
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's a moving target. They each move up and
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: down at times. And I'm the bad cop always, and
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: my wife's always the good cop.
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  Speaker 11: I just pray that Jordan's in Minnesota right now and
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 11: Jake's in Washington and JC's in Manhattan and that none
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 11: of them are listening to Craig Ways.
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  Speaker 6: Radio right now i pray okay all.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Right with that i'll move forward then and ask you
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: about oh i'm gonna come first of all uh give
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: me a little history lesson i remember doing a uh
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: i want to say it was a state quarterfinal game
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: i may be wrong about that oh 1997 jacksonville texas
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: city there was an amazing like a 31 28 ball
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: game and i think luke was playing quarterback back then
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: were you on danny longstaff at that time.
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  Speaker 11: That was actually Josh, Owen's father. That was 1997. I
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 11: was there from 93 to 2000. And it's the greatest
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 11: high school game I've ever been a part of as
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 11: an assistant. And Josh played as good as I've ever
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 11: seen him play. And it was a joy to be
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 11: on that team. And I hate it for Danny because
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 11: that was our chance to win a state championship for Danny.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 11: Still one of the best games I think he's ever coached.
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  Speaker 11: Rusty Dowling beat us at Texas City. They went on
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 11: to win state championship the next week.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing that I remember about that, Jeff, is
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: that Texas City had a kicker kicked, I believe, about
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: a 51 or 53-yard field goal in the game, and
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: he kicked it toward the south end zone. And Kuda Robertson,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: the old Southeast Texas radio legend who had done Huntsville's play-by-play,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: was doing color for me on the statewide broadcast. And
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: he was dead serious when he said that, man, he
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: kicked that long enough it almost went to the walls unit.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: Because apparently the Walls unit of the Texas State Prison
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: is not far beyond the fence of that north end
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: zone up that way.
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  Speaker 3: It was something else.
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  Speaker 11: I'll give you another memory from that game. I was
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 11: the special teams coordinator. They got down and had a
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 11: chip shot field goal to win the game. We had
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 11: a block that we knew was going to get there.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 11: Josh's cousin, Timothy Treadwell, who's passed away since then, was
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 11: free right in front of the tee and was fixing
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 11: to block it. And that same great kicker He basically
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 11: hit like a sand wedge. He missed the ball, hit
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 11: the very bottom of the ball, and it went straight
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 11: up and just landed on the other side of the goalpost.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 11: I was sure if he'd hit it pure, Timothy would
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 11: have blocked that thing. So I'm going to get over
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 11: it one day, Craig.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, listen, you play.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: I know you don't have much time to play a
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: lot of golf, but you play enough golf to know, obviously,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: you're hitting behind the ball in the bunker, hitting the sand.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Would that be the safe way to say this on
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: that field turf that they did it?
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  Speaker 6: There's no doubt. And isn't it sad?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 11: Like, I can never remember to pick up my shoes
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 11: or where I put my keys or where I set
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 11: my glass, but I can remember a play from 1997
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 11: and the details of that.
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  Speaker 6: What is wrong with us? We have issues, Craig.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: I know we do.
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  Speaker 3: I know we do.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so let me pull it back on track
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: here while we've got a few more minutes.
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  Speaker 3: I asked you about this, about Owen B. and John.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: and Arch has been asked about being.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: From a quarterback family and all that, and you've coached that.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: You get that. Is there an intrinsic added element to
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: having– a quarterback son of a quarterback and a coach
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff leading your offense?
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, just silly things.
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  Speaker 11: Like, for example, we had a playing team where he
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 11: got stepped on his toe and he went hopping like
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 11: he was, you know, dead.
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  Speaker 6: And I was watching him as his grandfather.
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  Speaker 1: I know well, Pat.
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  Speaker 6: I know all of his dad and his uncles and
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: his whole family.
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  Speaker 11: You know, limping is just not allowed in the mechanics.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 11: He's hobbling around like he's dead. I videoed it and
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 11: I sent it to Josh and his grandfather. Obviously, I
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 11: included Owen on there.
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  Speaker 6: It's just literally like, be tough.
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  Speaker 11: Just good old-fashioned You know what they're getting told at
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 11: the house. You know what they're being told. You know
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 11: what they're, you know what I mean? Like, they're being told,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 11: whatever the coach says, freaking do it. Be better. Find
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 11: a way to win the game. That's what the quarterbacks,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 11: I mean, there's just none of this making a soft
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 11: bet when you come from the genetics that, you know,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 11: Arch has come from or Owen's come from.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: With regard to your running back spot, like I said,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: one of the, recent state championship games. It was when
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: Will Henderson was in that backfield there. But Brandon, I
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: had the big run for you there, the 25-yard run
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: as well. How about your running back stable and what
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: you see and what you like out of that group?
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 6: They're good kids. They all support each other. Will goes first.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 11: Uh, and Brandon comes in second and then AP has
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 11: a role in our team as well.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 6: You know, he had a touchdown in the game as well.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 6: So they're very supportive.
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  Speaker 11: Um, you know, we, we're all about the two one
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 11: Oh triangle of toughness, uh, our culture, our brand. And
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 11: I know sort does a great job with that as well,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 11: but we, we made our own individual triangles this year.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 11: Like each kid has their own individual triangle. Um, their
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 11: four H's, you know, and I know Sark does this too,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 11: the history, the hero, the highlight, and the hardships. They
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 11: have their why and why they play, their Bible verse,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 11: their walk-up song, and their response mechanism to when things
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 11: go bad, all in their triangle. And all three of
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 11: those kids are really neat kids, and we allow each
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 11: player to talk to our team about their individual triangle,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 11: just a way for us to get to know each
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 11: other better and quicker, because the portal, you know, we
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 11: had 40 this year, come to us in January, which
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 11: is a very high number for us personally. There are
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 11: many schools at 90 and 85, so I'm not complaining.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 6: I'm still 40 is high. And it's been really cool.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 11: But Will and Brandon and APs, they did three of
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 11: the best triangles. They're three of the best people on
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 11: our team.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: I got to ask you this because it sounds like,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: you know, Sark likes to say, you know, the reason
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: the dinosaurs still aren't around is because they didn't adapt.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: And it sounds like you adapted because... I know where
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: you came from, and you didn't have a walk-up song
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: when you were playing Gilmer. And when you were coaching
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: at Gilmer, I don't know how much of that is,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: but it sounds like part of the adjustment that you
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: made as a coach, not only from what you did
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: in high school, but especially at the college level, is
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: adapting to the collegiate player environment.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it just had to be faster. I give the analogy,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 6: like I'm from East Texas, right?
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 11: So to barbecue a brisket and ribs is like a
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 11: real prideful thing in East Texas. And, you know, a
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 11: guy like me, who's kind of a guy that I
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 11: keep my staff around for a long time, my players
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 11: have never left me. I've had the same coaches, same
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 11: players my whole life. And now, so I was kind
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 11: of a three-day brisket cooker. My barbecue was about a
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 11: three-day process. I was a slow cooker. And now I've
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 11: got to get my brisket to taste just as good,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 11: but I got to cook it in a microwave.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 6: So they're all one-year teams now, Craig.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 11: So we really expedited that process. Everything we've done in August,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 11: we do in January now. And the triangle is just
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 11: a really good idea we have for each player. And
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 11: we take it with us. It's in their lockers downstairs.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 11: It'll come with us to Austin. We'll put the same
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 11: triangle up in y'all's lockers down there. It's just a
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 11: way to expedite all of us getting to know each other.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 11: Really proud of our guys about how they've accepted that.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 6: Not all hundred and.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 11: 17 of them have bought into doing this with a beautiful,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 11: beautiful smile on their face, but all 117 of them
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 11: do have their triangles done.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: I know that. I realize this is a loaded question,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: but when you look at the digital cut-ups, what really
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: crosses your mind when you look at Texas?
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 11: They've evaluated very well. They're really big. They're really strong.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 11: They've went and got some really special pieces. Those tailbacks
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 11: and those receivers are just your tight ends, your line.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 11: There's really nowhere I can say there's a weak spot. Obviously,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 11: Arch has gotten better. So, Arch is going to play
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 11: callers in the country. Will has brought a level of toughness.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 11: Jeff has done an always great job with the special
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 11: teams with you guys.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 6: So, I have nothing but the utmost respect. I've worked there.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 11: Twelve of my guys on my staff either played at
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 11: Texas or coached at Texas or graduated from Texas. I mean,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 11: hear me, 12. So we've got a ton of respect.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 11: We know about that place and what it's about. So
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 11: there's nothing I can say negative. And Sark and I
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 11: are good friends. I like Sark. So I'm rooting for
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 11: him except for this Saturday.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: The final thing I have for you here is also
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: the impression that I've got. And really just watching your
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: team and what you've described is– Whatever the environment is,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: they're not really allowing the moment to get too big
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: for them. So you have a lot of confidence that
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: they can walk into the stadium there on Saturday night
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: and there's 100,000 and all that other stuff going on
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: and still feel comfortable in the environment in the moment.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: And it's a matter of just going out and executing
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: at this point.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 11: Well, Texas State had an unbelievable home field advantage, but
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 11: what Chris Del Conte has done at DKR is on
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 11: another level. I mean, to say the least, it was
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 11: nowhere near that way when I was there. And he
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 11: is just, it is the most amazing home crowd. When
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 11: we played some great ones now, we played against some
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 11: really great teams in the SEC, but there's no place
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 11: like what y'all have done now. I don't know how
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 11: you get a team prepared for that. We're doing the
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 11: best we can, obviously, but it's, Y'all's music, when y'all
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 11: play it, how loud y'all play it, all the things
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 11: y'all do to distract the opponents, it's really on another level.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 11: So much, much respect to the administration of the University
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 11: of Texas and what they've done behind the scenes.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 6: And I hope my team can handle this.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 11: This is the most daunting task we will have because
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 11: of the quality of coaching, the quality of the players,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 11: and the quality.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 6: Of the atmosphere.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: Well, you're a quality individual. I always enjoy visiting with
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: you wherever we are, whether it's at coaching school or
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: someplace else or obviously in the stadium as well. And
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: I'm indebted to you for taking a few minutes to
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: join us today. I appreciate it, Jeff.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 6: Craig, it's easy to be good to you.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 11: You've been good to a lot of people for many,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 11: many years, and you treated me the same many, many
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 11: years ago as you do this day, and I'm grateful
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 11: for our friendship, man.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: God bless and birds up.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: Thank you. See you Saturday. Yes, sir.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: That's Jeff Traylor, head coach of the UTSA Roadrunners. We'll
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: have more coming up when we continue on 13 Under
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: the Zone.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: What do we got here on a Texas Tuesday?
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: Why not another San Antonio native with Steve Earle? Good
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: old boy getting tough.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 6: No doubt.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: All that talk about toughness triangles.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Our thanks again to Jeff Traylor,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: head coach of the UTSA Roadrunners. If you missed any
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: of it, it's worth a listen. He's radio gold. And
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: he's like that. Let me tell you something. He's like
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: that on the banquet circuit. I'm here to tell you.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: When he went into the Hall of Honor for the
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  Speaker 1: Texas High School Coach Association, his speech was unforgettable. And
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  Speaker 1: when we do the Division I FBS football coaches panel
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  Speaker 1: discussion at coaching school every year, and it's all 13
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  Speaker 1: Division I FBS coaches up on the stage, he's always
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  Speaker 1: the star of the thing, and he does it so effortlessly.
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  Speaker 1: And all the other coaches have told me, every single one,
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  Speaker 1: the other 12 have also said, we can't wait to
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  Speaker 1: hear Traylor because they know what he's going to do.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's just, the stories that he can spin
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  Speaker 1: and tell and things like that. And that business about
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  Speaker 1: the high school game, like I said, I was trying
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  Speaker 1: to remember some of the details. And I remember a
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  Speaker 1: lot of details about a lot of games, but clearly
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  Speaker 1: he was on the side for Jacksonville. It was an
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  Speaker 1: unforgettable playoff game with Texas City back there in the
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  Speaker 1: late 90s with Owen's dad, Josh McCown, a quarterback. That's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: The kicker missing the ball. and still pooching it through
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  Speaker 1: because he had that strong a leg. And like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I think he kicked it. I think he had a
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  Speaker 1: 51 yard field goal in the game and, uh, and, and,
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  Speaker 1: and with plenty to spare. And that's when Kuda Robertson said, man, that, that,
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  Speaker 1: that almost traveled to the walls unit, which you could
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  Speaker 1: see is not that far beyond the, uh, uh, beyond
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  Speaker 1: the stadium fence out there at old Bauer stadium, which
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  Speaker 1: has now been redone. They've, uh, they've rebuilt that stadium now, uh,
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  Speaker 1: at Sam Houston. And, um, So they now have a
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  Speaker 1: much nicer place to play there as they compete in
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  Speaker 1: Conference USA. Here's a couple more comments from Arch Manning.
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  Speaker 1: Asked about how quickly are he and his teammates able
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  Speaker 1: to ratchet stuff down, bring the emotions down, and get
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  Speaker 1: back to work and be ready to prepare properly for
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  Speaker 1: this game on Saturday.
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  Speaker 7: I think the sun comes up every morning and there's
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  Speaker 7: a new day. and our coaches do a good job.
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  Speaker 7: It kind of at practice, to be honest today, it
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  Speaker 7: felt like we lost just like we're, we're back going.
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  Speaker 3: So flush it, move on and keep it rolling.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly one of the takeaways is the performance of the
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  Speaker 1: two running backs, Hollywood Smothers and Raleigh Brown.
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  Speaker 3: They're really good.
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  Speaker 7: Hollywood, in the biggest moments, he's so calm and relaxed
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  Speaker 7: and he's ready to go. And really, he can make
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  Speaker 7: anything happen. So I'm really blessed to have those guys
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  Speaker 7: in the backfield.
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  Speaker 1: What seems to make Smothers so relaxed in a high-intensity environment?
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  Speaker 7: He's just built for it, I think. Yeah, he's like
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  Speaker 7: a veteran. It feels like he's like a 10-year-old pro guy.
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  Speaker 3: He's just built for it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and then Raleigh Brown, you know, he's got that
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  Speaker 1: different kind of voice and the personality and his own nickname.
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  Speaker 7: We all call him Band-Aid. I think that's his Instagram name,
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  Speaker 7: Band-Aid Leak. Yeah, we all call him Band-Aid. I don't
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  Speaker 7: know why he calls himself Band-Aid. But yeah, his voice,
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  Speaker 7: when I first met him, definitely caught me off guard.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. But he's hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: And then he was also asked, was this the most
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  Speaker 1: fun he's had in a football game?
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  Speaker 3: I think that was the most fun ending to a
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  Speaker 3: game I ever had. I did not know what to do.
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  Speaker 3: I was just running around. Then John almost tackled me
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  Speaker 3: trying to get me to do this interview.
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  Speaker 1: That was at the end of the game there when
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  Speaker 1: he was kind of running around. He didn't realize how
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  Speaker 1: much he was running around. And then John Bianco had
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  Speaker 1: to kind of corral him and get him over.
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  Speaker 2: Miracle, he got him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then get him over to Laura Rutledge for the interview.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back to wrap up today's edition
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  Speaker 1: of the program on 1300 The Zone.