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Sharri | 5 November · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why on Sky News Bits and Sharry Good Evening.
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Speaker 2: Welcome.
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Speaker 3: It's now officially November five, Election Day in the United States.
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Speaker 2: It's just gone.
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Speaker 3: Four am on the East Coast, one am on the West.
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Speaker 3: Voting will get underway in a couple of hours time,
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Speaker 3: and when we sit here tomorrow night, this time we'll
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Speaker 3: know whether Donald Trump is president or Kamala Harris or
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Speaker 3: if it's too close to call, with.
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Speaker 2: A final countdown.
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Speaker 3: Now on, we have big coverage on the show tonight,
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Speaker 3: Miranda Devine joins us from New York. She slams the
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Speaker 3: media coverage of Trump. She says it's even worse than
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Speaker 3: at the last election. She also accuses the Democrats of
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Speaker 3: putting Trump backers in jail. Plus concerns already about voter
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Speaker 3: fraud in Pennsylvania. I'll speak about this with Annalise Nilsen
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Speaker 3: in Washington, and we'll get final predictions from Brnwin, Bishop
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Speaker 3: Kayla Bond and more. Also on the show tonight, James
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Speaker 3: Patterson will be on live as the Albaneze government admits
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Speaker 3: it is canceled a Palestinian visa.
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Speaker 2: Over security concerns.
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Speaker 3: Also coming up, the ABC finally admits it faked gunshots
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Speaker 3: as it pursued. Heston Russell, a decorated former military commander,
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Speaker 3: will speak with me about this later, but first tonight
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Speaker 3: to a major story that the Albanezy government has given
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Speaker 3: sixteen point eight million dollars in taxpayer funds for social
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Speaker 3: cohesion to many groups that have promoted racism, anti Semitism
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Speaker 3: and extremism. The Alberaneze government pretends to care about these issues,
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Speaker 3: but it's simply lip service.
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Speaker 2: It's a lie.
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Speaker 3: In fact, it's quite the opposite. They're actually financially supporting
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Speaker 3: groups that are peddling racism, conspiracy theories, are promoting extremism.
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Speaker 3: This funding was meant to be for combating racism, Islamophobia,
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Speaker 3: misinformation and disinformation sixteen million dollars. Yet one of the
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Speaker 3: groups that's received funding from the Albanese government is the
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Speaker 3: Lebanese Muslim Association. Home Affairs gave this group one point
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Speaker 3: sixty five million dollars in March this year for supposedly
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Speaker 3: their work promoting social cohesion one point six million dollars.
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Speaker 2: This is the group that.
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Speaker 3: On October eighth last year, so that Israel did not
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Speaker 3: have the right to defend itself just hours after the
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Speaker 3: terror attacks, when entire families were slaughtered in their beds
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Speaker 3: and hundreds were kidnapped.
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Speaker 2: Not one word of sorrow for.
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Speaker 3: All the innocent people killed that day or the day before.
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Speaker 3: Just two days earlier, Albanezi and Tony Burke had met
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Speaker 3: with the group, as you can see in this picture here,
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Speaker 3: and this Muslim group also joined with his book Toreer
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Speaker 3: to hold a rally on the one year anniversary of
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Speaker 3: the October seven attacks. Well, here was James Patterson in
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Speaker 3: Satured Estimates, asking why this group deserves one point six
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Speaker 3: million dollars in our taxpayer funds.
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Speaker 4: This is, of course a rally on the anniversary of
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Speaker 4: the largest loss of Jewish life since the Holocaust, which
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Speaker 4: the Prime Minister himself said shouldn't proceed. So again is
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Speaker 4: the Lebanese Muslim Association who's involved in promoting events like
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Speaker 4: this and appropriate recipient of a.
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Speaker 5: Grant like that.
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Speaker 3: But there was no apology for this funding, just excuses
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Speaker 3: from Labor Minister Murray wat We'll take one.
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Speaker 6: Notice those details, but I'd remind you that on numerous occasions,
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Speaker 6: the Prime Minister, Minister Burke and other members of our
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Speaker 6: government have contempt condemned a range of hateful remarks made
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Speaker 6: by a range of people concerning what's happening.
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Speaker 3: In the Middle East, and the Albaneze government gave another
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Speaker 3: group called Palestinian Christians in Australia more than half a
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Speaker 3: million dollars in September this year, and here's Tony Burke
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Speaker 3: meeting with the group back in December. But instead of
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Speaker 3: promoting social cohesion, one official from the group has posted
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Speaker 3: anti submitted conspiracies that the wall was never about her
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Speaker 3: muss it was all about gas reserves.
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Speaker 2: What rubbish.
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Speaker 3: And a member of the group also shared a hateful
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Speaker 3: offensive post claiming that Zionism is a continuation of Nazism
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Speaker 3: and that the Palestinians are the final victims of a holocaust. Well,
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Speaker 3: James Patterson provided further evidence about this group that's received
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Speaker 3: half a million dollars in taxpayer funds in senate estimates.
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Speaker 4: The treasurer of this organization posted it on Instagram. I
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Speaker 4: can't prepat these words on handside because it would be unparliamentary.
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Speaker 4: But she uses expletives about Israel. She said it's almost
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Speaker 4: over for you roll. The whole world knows, they know
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Speaker 4: your monsters, and that's putting it likely.
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Speaker 2: F Israel. It's almost over for you.
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Speaker 3: This doesn't sound like a group that should be receiving
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Speaker 3: tax bay of funds for social cohesion.
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Speaker 2: James Patterson went on.
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Speaker 4: This treasurer of this association also posted the ALKACM logo
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Speaker 4: targeting similar the inverted red triangle, along with the captions
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Speaker 4: you poked, you pushed, you produdgt, you provoked, you played victim,
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Speaker 4: you deserve to pay, You parasitic pariah, pretty clearly endorsing
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Speaker 4: violence and terrorism against star of Israel.
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Speaker 5: Is that an appropriate thing to post?
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Speaker 3: Same answer as before, and as you saw their Labor
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Speaker 3: Senator Murray what was on his phone messaging, playing, doing
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Speaker 3: something with his phone. He was barely listening. He didn't
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Speaker 3: bother to answer the question. He just said, same answer
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Speaker 3: as before. Well, here's that post that James Patterson just
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Speaker 3: spoke about, and you can clearly see the red inverted
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Speaker 3: triangle which symbolizes from us with the words and they
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Speaker 3: might be a bit small for you, but the words
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Speaker 3: say you play victim, you deserve to pay. And as
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Speaker 3: you saw, and let's play that again. When Labor Minister Murray,
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Speaker 3: what was asked about this? He just sat looking at
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Speaker 3: his phone doesn't murray, what care that taxpayer funds are
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Speaker 3: going to organizations where some senior officials promote extremism and
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Speaker 3: racism when those funds are meant to be for helping
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Speaker 3: social cohesion in Australia. I mean, it's utterly absurd, It
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Speaker 3: makes no sense. And there are many, many more examples,
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Speaker 3: like the Albaneze government giving a group called Sydney Community
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Speaker 3: Connect Ink one hundred and ten thousand dollars. That's despite
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Speaker 3: the fact it had promoted a fundraising event with none
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Speaker 3: other than Shaike Ibrahim Dudoun, who, as you just saw.
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Speaker 2: Said this.
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Speaker 7: That's a day of courage.
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Speaker 3: And another speaker that Sydney Community connect promoted was Ahmed Bassal,
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Speaker 3: who has posted conspiracies about Jews on his social media.
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Speaker 3: He claimed that they run the Biden administration. Jews make
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Speaker 3: up less than two percent of the population of your country,
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Speaker 3: but they hold every senior level cabinet position in the
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Speaker 3: Biden administration except Secretary of Defense. Well again, James Patterson
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Speaker 3: quite rightly interrogated the government officials about this.
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Speaker 4: Has some comments alongside that about how terrible it is
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Speaker 4: that Jewish Zionists have taken over the US governments. Is
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Speaker 4: that an appropriate person to receiving a social cohesion grant.
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Speaker 8: So, Senator, what we are, what we were looking for,
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Speaker 8: was organizations with track records of supporting their community, those
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Speaker 8: with whom we have worked. We will take on notice
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Speaker 8: the issues that you're raising today and come back to
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Speaker 8: with more detail on due diligence.
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Speaker 2: And that's Stephanie Foster. By the way.
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Speaker 3: The Albanezi government appointed her as Home Affairs Secretary after
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Speaker 3: sacking Mike Pizzulo, and she's the same official who took
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Speaker 3: down the Australian flags from the website in what amounts
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Speaker 3: to a clear case of council culture. And all this money,
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Speaker 3: by the way, the sixteen million dollars for social cohesion
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Speaker 3: was rushed out the door, as Stephanie Foster herself admitted.
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Speaker 8: And we were trying to operate pretty quickly, just money out.
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Speaker 3: James Patterson spent twenty one minutes grilling the officials on
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Speaker 3: this topic, and the entire time he was given bureaucratic,
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Speaker 3: nonsensical non answers. None of those present could give any
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Speaker 3: explanation for why sixteen point eight million dollars in taxpayer
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Speaker 3: funds were given to groups that promoted extremism and anti semitism.
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Speaker 4: This is a fairly important question because a part of
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Speaker 4: the rationale for some of this funding was the promotion
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Speaker 4: of social cohesion, and it would be deeply ironic if
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Speaker 4: taxpayers money went instead to groups who are undermining social cohesion,
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Speaker 4: rather than promoting social cohesions. I'd like to know what
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Speaker 4: due diligence the department or the government did to make
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Speaker 4: sure that that wasn't the case, that no taxpayers money
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Speaker 4: went to organizations promoting disharmony or extremism. We can take
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Speaker 4: you're not able to tell me about those processes now.
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Speaker 9: I think mischanting.
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Speaker 8: You said you take it on notice center.
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Speaker 3: So how and why these groups were given millions of
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Speaker 3: dollars in funding, Well, no one can say, Labor minister Murray,
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Speaker 3: what looks down at his phone? The officials can't answer,
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Speaker 3: even though the Home Affairs Secretary is sitting right there.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, there was no competitive tender for
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Speaker 3: these grants, no independent process. The groups were hand picked
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Speaker 3: for the millions of dollars in funding they received by
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Speaker 3: the Albanzi government ministers, and some of them were even
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Speaker 3: approached and invited to apply by labor ministers now, either
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Speaker 3: the Home Affairs Department and the Albanezy government are so
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Speaker 3: incompetent that they didn't do any proper checks before handing
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Speaker 3: out cash. Cash that's meant to fix social cohesion and
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Speaker 3: to combat misinformation, yet it was given to groups that
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Speaker 3: promote Hermusk symbols and global conspiracies. So either they're deeply incompetent,
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Speaker 3: or they know but simply don't care that they're funding
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Speaker 3: groups that fuel conspiracies and extremism.
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Speaker 2: It's one or the other.
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Speaker 3: Incompetence or they're happy to perpetuate racism with taxpayer funds.
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Speaker 3: Maybe they can take that question on Notice two and
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Speaker 3: let's bring in shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson right now, James,
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Speaker 3: it goes without saying that you are single handedly holding
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Speaker 3: much of the Albanesi government to account. You've done a
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Speaker 3: sensational job on many topics over the past two days.
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Speaker 3: On this issue, do you think this is just utter
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Speaker 3: disregard for the rise in extremism in social cohesion that's
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Speaker 3: eroding on our streets.
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Speaker 2: Or do you think this is a case of incompetence.
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Speaker 4: Sharry, the Labor Party under Anthony Alberanezi has handed nearly
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Speaker 4: tens of millions of dollars to extrememists, to hate preachers,
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Speaker 4: to anti Israel radicals and to anti Semites.
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Speaker 5: That can't be by accident.
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Speaker 4: It is either through complete ill care for the spending
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Speaker 4: of taxpayer money and no concern for the implications for
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Speaker 4: our country, or it is a calculated attempt. I think
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Speaker 4: that what the root of this problem is that the
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Speaker 4: Lay Party is far more concerned about their own political
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Speaker 4: interest than the national interest, because in addition to handing
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Speaker 4: out this taxpayer money for social cohesion to extremists, they
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Speaker 4: also happen to hand them out to organizations in labor seats.
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Speaker 4: In fact, seventy eight percent of the grants given out
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Speaker 4: so far have been to labor seats. All of those
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Speaker 4: seats are either under siege by the Greens all the
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Speaker 4: Muslim Votes Matter movement. So it seems like their political
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Speaker 4: interest to taking precedency over the national interest, and unfortunately
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Speaker 4: that's what we've come to expect from Labour under antth Galbanese,
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Speaker 4: and particularly in this portfolio under Tony Burke.
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Speaker 2: It is so deeply disappointing.
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Speaker 3: James Patterson, we've also seen the admission that one Palestinian
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Speaker 3: who was given a VS fast tracked visa by the
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Speaker 3: Albanesi government has now been moved to unshold detention. Their
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Speaker 3: visa has been revoked, we're told on character grounds, but
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Speaker 3: no proper explanation about why this person was given a
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Speaker 3: visa in the first place and why it's now been canceled.
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Speaker 5: You're right, Charry.
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Speaker 4: For months now, the government has been assuring us that
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Speaker 4: all the necessary checks have taken place, that there should
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Speaker 4: be no concerns about any of the three thousand tourist
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Speaker 4: visas handed out to Gaza residents who were seeking to
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Speaker 4: come to this country, and that there was nothing to fear.
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Speaker 4: But they've now been forced to admit that one person
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Speaker 4: on shore has had their visa canceled on character grounds.
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Speaker 4: And what that means is that person was granted a visa,
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Speaker 4: has come to our country and either they've gone on
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Speaker 4: to do something horrific in our community or a new
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Speaker 4: piece of information has come to light about something that
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Speaker 4: they've done in their past. Now, either way, it's not
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Speaker 4: good for the Albanezi government because they assured us that
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Speaker 4: all the necessary checks took place, that they weren't being reckless,
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Speaker 4: that they didn't take any risks. But when you do
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Speaker 4: as they did in this instance, refer two six hundred
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Speaker 4: visas from Gaza to Asio on a single day and
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Speaker 4: ask them to vet them, including after many of them
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Speaker 4: had already been issued and many of them had already
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Speaker 4: traveled to Australia, it is bound to end into years.
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Speaker 5: And I fear that's what's happened to here.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: I understand that you've also raised concerns that the Home
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Speaker 3: Affairs Minister could be driving a vehicle, that it's potentially
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Speaker 3: the case that it could have a listening device in it.
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Speaker 3: Can you tell us what your concerns are and why
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Speaker 3: you have made these comments?
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Speaker 4: So yesterday and Senator to estimate, shari I asked the
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Speaker 4: Department of Home Affairs to explain the potential national and
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Speaker 4: cybersecurity risks from internet connected electric vehicles made in China,
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Speaker 4: and they stepped through some of the risks. They said
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Speaker 4: it was possible for these evs to listen to the
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Speaker 4: occupants while they're in the car. They said it was
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Speaker 4: possible for these evs to track the movements of that
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Speaker 4: person as they drive through our cities and our states.
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Speaker 4: They said that it was possible for the external cameras
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Speaker 4: on these vehicles to be recording other people and for
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Speaker 4: that to be transmitted back to the owners. And they
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Speaker 4: also said that if you plugged in an external device
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Speaker 4: into that car, like a mobile phone, you could be
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Speaker 4: compromising that device. I then asked them whether or not
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Speaker 4: that briefed the Minister for Home Affairs on this issue.
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Speaker 4: They said that briefed him multiple times. And then I
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Speaker 4: asked them why it was the fact that Tony Burke
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Speaker 4: is driving an Internet connected smart EV vehicle and they
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Speaker 4: looked at their shoes, they looked at their floor, at
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Speaker 4: the floor, they looked at the roof to avoid answering
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Speaker 4: the question, but eventually had to admit, yes, our Minister
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Speaker 4: for Home Affairs and Cybersecurity is driving around in a
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Speaker 4: car that is a potential listing device for the Chinese
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Speaker 4: Communist Party.
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Speaker 3: Look unbelievable admissions that you've managed to extract and multiple
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Speaker 3: issues at Senate Estimates this week.
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Speaker 2: James Patterson, thank you for your time.
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Speaker 3: And let's bringing now Sky News host Kayla Bonden from
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Speaker 3: a Speaker of the House, Brunwin Bishop terrific to see
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Speaker 3: both of you on the well, the eve or the.
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Speaker 2: Start of this US election.
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Speaker 3: Really, look, we have seen criticism of Donald Trump for
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Speaker 3: being off message in the final critical week of the campaign,
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Speaker 3: but he's told a journalist that apparently this is a
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Speaker 3: deliberate strategy, and he calls it the weave.
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Speaker 2: Have a look, he is.
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Speaker 10: Out there, you know, talking about putting guns in Liz
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Speaker 10: Cheney's face, the Madison Square Garden rally, all that that
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Speaker 10: had and I said that there are that he's not disciplined,
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Speaker 10: he doesn't have a message, and he was upset with that.
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Speaker 10: He said the weave, that's what he calls it when
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Speaker 10: he bounces around. Is why he got elected president.
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Speaker 3: So Romin this is interesting because you know, Trump has
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Speaker 3: said some utterly, you know, indefensible things in the past
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Speaker 3: few days, but he claims.
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Speaker 2: It's a strategy that works. As we just heard there.
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Speaker 2: What do you think.
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Speaker 11: I don't really think many of them metter very much.
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Speaker 11: But I do think what meted was allowing that comedian
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Speaker 11: to Israelly who said that Puerto Rican's The Puerto Rico
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Speaker 11: was garbage because that got a bad bunny who has
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Speaker 11: forty five million followers. Tremendously popular Puerto Rican singer songwriter
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Speaker 11: well regarded influencing three hundred thousand Puerto Rican voters in Pennsylvania.
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Speaker 9: That matters.
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Speaker 11: As for the rest of it, I think we've become
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Speaker 11: used to hearing the different ways that Donald Trump speaks.
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Speaker 11: We've been listening to it since twenty twenty two in
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Speaker 11: this last iteration, or even before, of course, well even
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Speaker 11: before he's been at it since twenty twenty two in
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Speaker 11: this iteration. So I think a lot of people have
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Speaker 11: factored it in. I think that people are not influenced
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Speaker 11: by it particularly, but I think they are influenced by
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Speaker 11: the question he asks, are you better off now than
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Speaker 11: you were.
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Speaker 2: Four years ago?
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Speaker 11: That is right on message, I mean, and if I
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Speaker 11: can just add immigration, right on message one percent.
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Speaker 3: But I think that was that journalist's point, that he
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Speaker 3: should have been sticking to his core messages. But we've
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Speaker 3: seen this scattered approach in the Republican campaign. I mean, Caleb,
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Speaker 3: we even saw bizarrely Tucker Carlson say that blame abortions
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Speaker 3: for hurricanes. I mean, they should all of the key
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Speaker 3: Republican figures who have a big following should be saying
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Speaker 3: sensible things are on message and not these wacky things
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Speaker 3: like blaming abortion for hurricanes.
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Speaker 12: Well, yes, I mean that is patently bizarre, right what
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Speaker 12: Trump is doing now. Look, the reality is there's no
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Speaker 12: one sitting at home in America right now. I mean,
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Speaker 12: I know it's the middle of the night, but there's
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Speaker 12: no one sitting at home in America going, Am I
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Speaker 12: going to vote for Trump or Harris? If you're voting
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Speaker 12: on a policy point of view, or you're just in
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Speaker 12: team Red or team Blue, you've already decided that you're
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Speaker 12: going to vote and who you're going to vote for.
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Speaker 12: You've got a cohort of people who don't know whether
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Speaker 12: they're going to vote or not. You're not going to
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Speaker 12: win them over on policy because they've had a long
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Speaker 12: time to work out what the candidate's policies are. The
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Speaker 12: game that Trump is playing now is to get those
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Speaker 12: who are left behind, or those who are not necessarily
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Speaker 12: going to go out and vote, to go and vote.
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Speaker 12: He can't appeal to them on policy. He appeals to
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Speaker 12: them by being Donald Trump and saying, look, come on,
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Speaker 12: you've got to come out and vote. He's being an entertainer.
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Speaker 12: That's what he's doing now, because that's the last ditch
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Speaker 12: effort to get extra votes in that ballot box because
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Speaker 12: talking policy now ain't going to.
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Speaker 3: Change it because it cuts through the more outrageous the
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Speaker 3: more his comments get played. Want to get final predictions
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Speaker 3: from both of you. Bronwin, what do you think? How
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Speaker 3: is this election going to go?
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Speaker 2: I think Trump will win.
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Speaker 11: And I think I don't think it'll take forever to
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Speaker 11: find out either.
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Speaker 2: What do you think, Hayla yep?
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Speaker 9: I think it'll be Trump.
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Speaker 12: Look as to whether we know tomorrow and Nara in
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Speaker 12: the next few days. Who knows, But I suspect there
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Speaker 12: is still a strong, silent Trump vote out there that
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Speaker 12: we haven't seen much in the polling, and that he
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Speaker 12: will do better than the polls have told us.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't know whether what factoring in.
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Speaker 2: None of us know.
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Speaker 11: We're told ustill on a knife age because people will
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Speaker 11: repeat it at nitem, but we don't know how much
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Speaker 11: those polls have actually been used as campaigning tools because
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Speaker 11: many of them belong and are affiliated to political movements.
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Speaker 11: So I think there are I think it's been dishonest
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Speaker 11: a lot of those polls, and I think the shy
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Speaker 11: voter is still a factor.
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Speaker 3: I actually speak about that phenomenon, the shy voter with
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Speaker 3: Miranda Devine a bit later, and she says it's now
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Speaker 3: the frightened Trump voter.
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Speaker 2: As opposed to the shy voter.
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Speaker 3: I want to ask you both about domestic politics now.
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Speaker 3: It has actually been a full week since the Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister Anthony Alberezi had a press conference. Now the opposition
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Speaker 3: isn't going hard in question time on the Quantus upgrades
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Speaker 3: scandal because they've had a few issues of their own,
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Speaker 3: but clearly he's still worried about it. Otherwise he would
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Speaker 3: be fronting the media.
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Speaker 2: What do you think, Bronwin.
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Speaker 11: Well, he's in a dilemma, isn't he dead? He spun
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Speaker 11: his boy from Struggle Street done good. I understand what
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Speaker 11: the ordinary people are going through. And then he's cozied
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Speaker 11: up with Alan Joyce and we've had the upgrades, and
21:16
Speaker 11: we've had the support for the Yes case. We've bought
21:18
Speaker 11: the four point three million dollar house, which tells a
21:21
Speaker 11: lot of people you've lost touch.
21:24
Speaker 2: You may have started off.
21:25
Speaker 11: Here and this was your story, but you have now
21:29
Speaker 11: moved away from us. And I think that's going to
21:32
Speaker 11: be very difficult for him to shift, because that is
21:36
Speaker 11: something that mister Dutton can really hone in on. It's
21:40
Speaker 11: a message that will resonate with a lot of people
21:43
Speaker 11: who are working hard not being able to pay their mortgage.
21:46
Speaker 2: And then we've got the.
21:48
Speaker 11: Snake charmer telling us it's all wonderful, really, it's all fixed,
21:51
Speaker 11: it's all going to be roses on the way ahead
21:53
Speaker 11: when they know it's not for them. So that's the
21:56
Speaker 11: biggest dilemma I think they've got with that problem, the
21:59
Speaker 11: fact Transport Minister he's seems to have perhaps been in
22:03
Speaker 11: breach of the Ministerial Code and the qutar decision thrown
22:08
Speaker 11: in for good measure.
22:08
Speaker 3: A lot of questions still on the guitar decision and
22:11
Speaker 3: whether he spoke to anyone in Quantus or not.
22:14
Speaker 2: Caleb.
22:14
Speaker 3: I think Albertiz is messaging that we've heard this week
22:17
Speaker 3: that the worst of the cost of living crisis is behind.
22:19
Speaker 2: Australia is incredibly dangerous.
22:22
Speaker 3: People see him the cliff Top mansion, they hear about
22:25
Speaker 3: the upgrades, they hear him saying everyone's doing fine, when
22:29
Speaker 3: the reality isn't the case, as we heard from the
22:31
Speaker 3: IRBA governor today.
22:33
Speaker 12: I mean, he can spin it any way he wants,
22:35
Speaker 12: but has anyone seen their power bill go down in
22:37
Speaker 12: the last month. Has anyone seen their grocery bill go
22:40
Speaker 12: down in the last month. Has anyone seen their petrol
22:43
Speaker 12: bill go down in the last month. If you look
22:45
Speaker 12: at the markers, actually petrel has been a little lower recently,
22:48
Speaker 12: but still if you go and fill up today, it'll
22:50
Speaker 12: be two dollars and say since But if you look
22:53
Speaker 12: at the markers for inflation, as in, if you break
22:56
Speaker 12: it down to the products that have been going up
22:58
Speaker 12: and down, it is the essentials that have continued to increase.
23:02
Speaker 12: Other parts of the economy have subtracted, but the essentials
23:05
Speaker 12: have not. And that's what the cost of living crisis
23:09
Speaker 12: is about. That's what people are paying for every day
23:11
Speaker 12: until there is an interest rate cut, which of course
23:14
Speaker 12: we learned today there's not going to be one any.
23:16
Speaker 2: Time, probably not going to even happen before.
23:18
Speaker 9: Until we're on the.
23:19
Speaker 2: Next right election.
23:20
Speaker 12: He can spin it however he wants, but people won't.
23:22
Speaker 11: Buch Right, We've got to go think that cut's going
23:24
Speaker 11: to help him all that much.
23:26
Speaker 3: I just don't think there will be one before the
23:27
Speaker 3: next election. Browan, Bishop Caylebond. We'll see you, of course
23:30
Speaker 3: at ten o'clock. Cleasure Now still to calm. The ABC
23:34
Speaker 3: finally admits that a doctored video to accuse Heston Russell
23:38
Speaker 3: of war crimes. Well, a decorated military commander will be
23:41
Speaker 3: on the show. Plus, Morada Devine joins me from New York,
23:45
Speaker 3: saying the media treatment of Trump has been even harsher
23:49
Speaker 3: than at the last election when they buried the Hunter
23:51
Speaker 3: laptop story. That's after this quick break, Welcome back. Well,
23:59
Speaker 3: the the US election is mere hours away. New York
24:03
Speaker 3: Post and Daily Telegraph columnist Miranda Devine joined me a
24:07
Speaker 3: little earlier to discuss the blatant media bias against Trump,
24:11
Speaker 3: her prediction for the outcome, and how the result will
24:14
Speaker 3: impact us here in Australia. Have a look, Miranda Devine,
24:18
Speaker 3: so great to see you again. Congratulations on your new book.
24:22
Speaker 3: And you've, of course had Steve Bannon there. He was
24:25
Speaker 3: just released from prison. We keep hearing this line from
24:28
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris that Trump is going to put his political
24:32
Speaker 3: enemies in prison, but really we've seen the precise opposite.
24:36
Speaker 3: We've seen the jailing of key Trump figures. Isn't this
24:40
Speaker 3: subverting democracy in the same way that the Democrats accused
24:44
Speaker 3: Trump of doing?
24:45
Speaker 2: On January the sixth, one hundred percent.
24:48
Speaker 13: And in fact, what you've heard from the Democrats, and
24:51
Speaker 13: they're very successfully cemented this narrative around the world and
24:55
Speaker 13: in half of America, is that it's actually the.
25:00
Speaker 9: Republicans and Trump who is.
25:02
Speaker 13: An authoritarian who's going to throw his political opponents in
25:06
Speaker 13: jail and use the military to try and keep power.
25:11
Speaker 13: What you're actually seeing is that there are Trump advisors
25:16
Speaker 13: who've gone to jail. Steve Batten, you just mentioned, he
25:20
Speaker 13: spent four months in jail in a federal jail, which
25:25
Speaker 13: is not a nice place to be, for defying a
25:29
Speaker 13: subpoena by Nancy Pelosi, the most vindictive and probably powerful
25:35
Speaker 13: Democrat of the last decade.
25:38
Speaker 9: She was Speaker of the House, and she.
25:40
Speaker 13: Set up this bogus January sixth committee which had, you know,
25:46
Speaker 13: the only Republicans on it were Trump deranged Republicans like
25:50
Speaker 13: Liz Cheney, the daughter of Dick Cheney, the Iraq War warmonger.
25:55
Speaker 9: So that was a real.
25:59
Speaker 13: Star chamber, and Steve Bannon got legal advice saying that
26:05
Speaker 13: he didn't have to go and give evidence to this
26:09
Speaker 13: committee because it was not properly constituted, because it didn't
26:13
Speaker 13: have the right amount of Republicans and Democrats. His legal advice,
26:19
Speaker 13: I guess didn't stand up in a court of law,
26:21
Speaker 13: because he was then charged with contempt of Congress and
26:24
Speaker 13: sent to jail. There are other Trump staffers and Trump
26:27
Speaker 13: supporters who've been sent to jail or just as Donald
26:31
Speaker 13: Trump has been subjected to law fair from various Democrat
26:36
Speaker 13: jurisdictions around the country, including federally and in New York,
26:40
Speaker 13: his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani has also been bankrupted, sued,
26:45
Speaker 13: you know, disbarred, hauled over the coals.
26:49
Speaker 9: And this is all just seems.
26:53
Speaker 13: To be retribution against anybody who supports Donald Trump.
26:58
Speaker 2: Miranda.
26:59
Speaker 3: At the last presidential election, your Hunter Biden laptop scoop
27:03
Speaker 3: was buried by the mainstream media. This time around, do
27:08
Speaker 3: you think the media has been any fairer?
27:10
Speaker 9: Actually, it's been worse.
27:12
Speaker 13: I mean, there hasn't been as egregious and obvious an
27:15
Speaker 13: incident as the censorship of the New York Post and
27:17
Speaker 13: our Hunter Biden laptop stories. But every day you're seeing
27:23
Speaker 13: another sort of sign of injustice and partiality.
27:29
Speaker 9: From sort of big media.
27:32
Speaker 13: Just the other night we had on Saturday Night Live,
27:36
Speaker 13: you had Kamala Harris appeared very soft sort of performance,
27:42
Speaker 13: and there were all sorts of other sort of pro Democrat,
27:45
Speaker 13: pro Kamela bits and pieces in that show.
27:47
Speaker 9: It might have been just a full hour ad for her.
27:51
Speaker 13: And there was no reciprocal invitation to Donald Trump. And
27:57
Speaker 13: so the Federal Election Commission that's against.
28:00
Speaker 9: Their law, their rules.
28:02
Speaker 13: There has to be equal time this close to an election,
28:05
Speaker 13: and so they had to give Donald Trump equal time.
28:09
Speaker 13: And he chose the Sunday night football which is probably
28:12
Speaker 13: more viewed, and he got a free ad on the football.
28:16
Speaker 3: Look, we're now hours away from Americans voting. The polls
28:20
Speaker 3: are very close. The reports are that the race is deadlocked,
28:24
Speaker 3: although Trump does appear to be slightly ahead in the
28:27
Speaker 3: seven battleground states. Miranda, how are you reading this crucial contest.
28:32
Speaker 13: Look, my gut tells me that Donald Trump will win.
28:37
Speaker 13: But I've been wrong before. I was wrong in twenty twenty. Look,
28:42
Speaker 13: it's a very difficult thing to gauge. What I will
28:46
Speaker 13: say is that Pennsylvania is probably the most crucial state.
28:50
Speaker 9: It has nineteen electoral.
28:51
Speaker 13: Votes, the most of all those other battleground states. And
28:56
Speaker 13: so you know, the adage is that if Donald Trump
28:59
Speaker 13: wins Pennsylvania, he wins.
29:02
Speaker 9: And so I've been.
29:03
Speaker 13: To Pennsylvania a couple of times during the campaign and
29:07
Speaker 13: quite recently, and there really was a distinct pro Trump
29:13
Speaker 13: atmosphere in Well. For instance, I went to a penn
29:17
Speaker 13: State game and a lot of young students gen z
29:21
Speaker 13: is I guess, women, young women. They were very keen
29:24
Speaker 13: to wear MAGA hats and to talk about how they
29:28
Speaker 13: were voting, and they'd registered, et.
29:30
Speaker 9: Cetera, and they're going to vote for Donald Trump.
29:33
Speaker 13: So and then you know, even in Pittsburgh, which was
29:37
Speaker 13: a sort of a more difficult, more Democrat, went went
29:40
Speaker 13: heavily for Biden. They I talked to some people there
29:45
Speaker 13: and they were quite positive. They said, people Trump supporters
29:50
Speaker 13: are more inclined to put their signs out this time
29:52
Speaker 13: than they did last time. I don't know what that
29:55
Speaker 13: means really. So Pennsylvania I think is looking quite good.
30:01
Speaker 13: It's neck and neck in the polls, but honestly, who knows.
30:05
Speaker 13: I think Trump is in a better shape than he
30:08
Speaker 13: was in twenty sixteen or twenty twenty in terms of
30:12
Speaker 13: the national poll, which doesn't really matter, but it is
30:15
Speaker 13: an indication of how well he'll do in the battleground states.
30:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the critical point, isn't it. People
30:22
Speaker 3: voting for Kamala it will be mostly an anti Trump
30:25
Speaker 3: vote because she hasn't actually articulated any of her policy
30:29
Speaker 3: positions in a clear way, and she's avoided so much scrutiny.
30:34
Speaker 2: But Maradijer's finally.
30:36
Speaker 3: My feeling is that this is one of the most
30:38
Speaker 3: critical elections in recent American history, with so much at
30:42
Speaker 3: stake on a global level, the rise of our enemies,
30:45
Speaker 3: they're now working together.
30:47
Speaker 2: It really matters now who the.
30:49
Speaker 3: Leader of the free world is, doesn't it?
30:51
Speaker 9: Absolutely?
30:52
Speaker 13: And I think what we've seen in the Biden years
30:55
Speaker 13: is just foreign policy blunder after blunder.
30:58
Speaker 9: It's been a disaster.
31:00
Speaker 13: Really started early on in his administration with the bungled
31:05
Speaker 13: withdrawal from Afghanistan, and it's continued on like that, their
31:10
Speaker 13: sort of foked tongue attitude towards Israel, the Ukraine War,
31:17
Speaker 13: which I think Trump's quite right.
31:18
Speaker 9: When he says it never would have happened under him.
31:20
Speaker 13: You just look at Donald Trump, who is uncontrollable and
31:25
Speaker 13: therefore regarded by the Blob, which is the sort of
31:29
Speaker 13: Kabbal of the CIA.
31:30
Speaker 9: The Pentagon, the State Department.
31:34
Speaker 13: The Blob is the name that was given by the
31:37
Speaker 13: Obama people, but they have a pretty malign and opaque
31:42
Speaker 13: foreign policy agenda, which they Trump just ignored, and he
31:48
Speaker 13: just treated foreign policy like a property developer from New
31:52
Speaker 13: York and just on first principles and using common sense
31:56
Speaker 13: and logic, and so under him, Iran was on its knees.
32:01
Speaker 9: It was broke.
32:02
Speaker 13: It was unable to fund proxies to attack Israel as
32:05
Speaker 13: they did last October seven. Putin was in his box.
32:12
Speaker 13: He didn't invade any of his neighbors like he did
32:14
Speaker 13: under Biden and under Barack Obama, both of whom were
32:18
Speaker 13: puppets of the Blob, and Isis, for instance, was vanquished
32:25
Speaker 13: North Korea.
32:27
Speaker 9: Barack Obama told.
32:28
Speaker 13: Donald Trump at the beginning of his administration that the
32:32
Speaker 13: biggest threat the world faced and that he would have
32:36
Speaker 13: to deal with was North Korea setting off all these
32:39
Speaker 13: nuclear tests. And Donald Trump was mocked mercilessly for what
32:44
Speaker 13: he did, but his bromance with Kim Jong wun and
32:48
Speaker 13: calling him Little Rocketman and so on.
32:50
Speaker 9: And it was unorthodox, but it worked. He put him
32:53
Speaker 9: in his box, and we.
32:54
Speaker 13: Had the Abraham Accords, which gave the promise of peace
32:59
Speaker 13: in the Middle East. It was a great success Donald
33:03
Speaker 13: Trump's foreign policy as well as his domestic economic policy.
33:07
Speaker 9: And now I think it's a really clear choice.
33:11
Speaker 13: And for Australians looking at America, I think that they
33:16
Speaker 13: should view a Trump presidency as a positive for Australia
33:21
Speaker 13: and for Australia's security.
33:24
Speaker 3: Miranda Devine, terrific to see you as always, Thanks so much.
33:30
Speaker 3: All right, coming up after the break, Why the ABC
33:32
Speaker 3: has been dragged to kicking and screaming into an apology
33:36
Speaker 3: over doctoring a video in reports accusing Heston Russell of
33:40
Speaker 3: war crimes, Plus concerns Albanezy will keep rates higher for
33:44
Speaker 3: longer with his cash splash design to win the election.
33:48
Speaker 2: That's after this break. Welcome back.
33:53
Speaker 3: Well, the ABC has today been forced into a humiliating
33:57
Speaker 3: apology after finally admitting that it edited fake gunshots into
34:03
Speaker 3: video footage, and it did this in reports that wrongly
34:06
Speaker 3: accused Heston Russell of war crimes. We've been covering this
34:10
Speaker 3: heavily on my show and today here was the ABC's director.
34:14
Speaker 2: Of News, Justin Stevens' insenate estimates.
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Speaker 14: We sincerely regret and apologize those editing errors in the
34:22
Speaker 14: video clips, including two members of the second Commando Regiment.
34:25
Speaker 14: And that's why we removed the video when it was
34:27
Speaker 14: brought to our at tension.
34:29
Speaker 3: And you remember that last time the ABC officials said
34:32
Speaker 3: they weren't apologizing to Heston Russell despite losing the defamation
34:37
Speaker 3: case against him.
34:37
Speaker 2: It's just so appalling.
34:39
Speaker 3: Let's bring in now Sky News contributor Gary Hargrave and
34:42
Speaker 3: former RSL New South Wales president James Brown.
34:45
Speaker 2: Welcome to you both. Gary.
34:48
Speaker 3: This is one of the most egregious cases of journalism,
34:52
Speaker 3: of doctoring a video footage in order to wrongly accuse
34:55
Speaker 3: someone of war crimes.
34:56
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the most grubby journalism.
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Speaker 3: And yet the ABC have behaved appallingly throughout.
35:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they say there's nothing to see here. They
35:07
Speaker 1: won't name who edited the whole thing. They said it
35:10
Speaker 1: was unintentional, it was accidental. I mean, you know, the
35:13
Speaker 1: dog ate their homework. This is not good enough. They cannot,
35:17
Speaker 1: for the moment, for even a moment, pretend that they
35:21
Speaker 1: are impartial. The idea of actually throwing a bit more
35:24
Speaker 1: lard on the fire while they're cooking the sausage to
35:27
Speaker 1: make it sizzle more to sell the story is appalling
35:30
Speaker 1: stuff and it really isn't the way the ABC was.
35:33
Speaker 1: I worked there in nineteen eighty seven, a long time ago.
35:35
Speaker 1: It was a younger bloke. My hair was very brown.
35:37
Speaker 1: But you know, let's face it, you just don't do
35:40
Speaker 1: that stuff. You've got to respect your viewers better than that.
35:44
Speaker 1: You just can't make stuff up, Shari.
35:48
Speaker 2: That's the problem, James.
35:49
Speaker 3: We know that veteran suicide has been a really sad,
35:53
Speaker 3: tragic issue.
35:54
Speaker 2: We just had the Royal Commission and we've.
35:56
Speaker 3: Seen that veterans say it's this type of pursuit by
35:59
Speaker 3: the ME that has contributed to mental illness.
36:03
Speaker 15: You would think the National Broadcaster would set the bar
36:05
Speaker 15: extraordinarily high before it points at someone who's put their
36:09
Speaker 15: life on the line for the country on multiple occasions
36:12
Speaker 15: and accuses.
36:12
Speaker 5: Them of being involved in a murder.
36:14
Speaker 15: They didn't do that here, and apology has been far
36:17
Speaker 15: too long in the coming.
36:18
Speaker 5: They've dug in.
36:19
Speaker 15: They're protecting their own they're protecting a journalist who was
36:21
Speaker 15: trying to sell a book on this at the same
36:23
Speaker 15: time and had an interest in.
36:25
Speaker 5: Sexing the story up. They've done the wrong thing by
36:28
Speaker 5: Heston Russell and they really need to apologize to them.
36:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent, and that apology came far too late.
36:34
Speaker 3: Now the IBA has left interest rates on holds in
36:36
Speaker 3: its cup day meeting today the cash rate remains at
36:39
Speaker 3: four point three five percent and it's going to likely
36:43
Speaker 3: stay this way until next year.
36:46
Speaker 2: Here was Governor Michelle Bullock today.
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Speaker 16: Public demand is offsetting a lot of weakness in the
36:52
Speaker 16: private sectorm side. So we still, with those circumstances, have
36:57
Speaker 16: inflation coming back to target in a reasonable way. My
37:02
Speaker 16: reading when I speak privately to the Treasurer and when
37:06
Speaker 16: I hear him speak on television and radio, is that
37:10
Speaker 16: he's fully aware of the inflationary implications of his own policies.
37:16
Speaker 3: Well, he may be aware, but is the Prime Minister.
37:19
Speaker 3: Because we saw Gary that Alban Eazy just announced on
37:22
Speaker 3: Sunday sixteen billion dollar pledge to help you know, basically
37:27
Speaker 3: buy young votes from the Greens. So do you think
37:31
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister actually gets the message that he's got
37:34
Speaker 3: to stop spending in order to bring down inflation, in
37:37
Speaker 3: order to cut interest rates.
37:41
Speaker 9: No, and he doesn't care. That's the problem.
37:43
Speaker 1: The promise has lost complete.
37:44
Speaker 5: Touch with the reality.
37:46
Speaker 1: Not that I think it was awfully close to the
37:47
Speaker 1: economic reality of this, that they're feeding inflation with every
37:51
Speaker 1: announcement they make. And in fact, I think the cruel
37:54
Speaker 1: trick on a lot of university students with the hexsteat
37:57
Speaker 1: is that they're actually saying to them the threshold's gone up,
38:00
Speaker 1: so you don't have to pay off your HEX debt
38:03
Speaker 1: until you hit over sixty something sixty two thousand dollars.
38:06
Speaker 1: I mean that in itself is going to drive the
38:08
Speaker 1: problem Shari until I actually have say, an interest holiday
38:11
Speaker 1: on the debt.
38:12
Speaker 5: Young people who want.
38:13
Speaker 1: To get ahead, get the debt out of their their
38:15
Speaker 1: personal economic circumstance, maybe borrow money at a later stage
38:19
Speaker 1: for a house. They're not going to be able to
38:20
Speaker 1: do that, so they're going to have a moratorium on
38:23
Speaker 1: the interest that's being charged. But right now the government
38:26
Speaker 1: doesn't care. They just want to win the election. They
38:28
Speaker 1: don't care how they wrecked the economy in the process.
38:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my concern, James, that we're going to be
38:33
Speaker 3: seeing over the next few months until the federal election,
38:36
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister making a lot of spending promises, throwing
38:39
Speaker 3: a lot of cash around because you know, he just
38:42
Speaker 3: doesn't he's putting politics ahead of it over the need
38:45
Speaker 3: to bring down rates and bring down inflation.
38:48
Speaker 15: The Prime Minister's got the cash gun funded by the taxpayer,
38:51
Speaker 15: locked and loaded and ready to spray.
38:53
Speaker 5: I mean we've seen it in a lot of areas.
38:54
Speaker 15: We saw that decision on Sunday, which really just moves
38:57
Speaker 15: that sixteen billion dollar debt to other tax payer. On
39:00
Speaker 15: Monday morning, we found out that the government doesn't have
39:03
Speaker 15: seven billion dollars it needs to pay for military communications satellites.
39:07
Speaker 15: Ed Hughesick goes to lunch with a quantum computer company
39:11
Speaker 15: in the United States. The taxpayer comes away with a
39:13
Speaker 15: billion dollar bill. The National Reconstruction Fund is pumping hundreds
39:18
Speaker 15: of millions and billions of dollars into futuristic industries like forestry.
39:24
Speaker 15: This is labor giving money to the people that keep
39:26
Speaker 15: it in power. The IMF, the World Bank have all
39:30
Speaker 15: said that inflation rates in Australia are far too high.
39:32
Speaker 15: Michelle Bullock has come as close to saying that the
39:34
Speaker 15: government is out of control on spending as she can
39:37
Speaker 15: without losing her job.
39:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite extraordinary comments today. I mean she was
39:42
Speaker 3: being careful. Yeah, Gary, do you want to add something there.
39:47
Speaker 1: Just simply that the narrative from the Reserve Bank included
39:52
Speaker 1: the idea that they might not get to lower interest
39:55
Speaker 1: rates till May next year, which is when the elections due.
39:57
Speaker 1: So you know, I think they're actually saying that if
40:00
Speaker 1: you don't run the election, if you run the election early,
40:03
Speaker 1: there's no interest rate reduction. So I thought that was
40:05
Speaker 1: also an interesting little sidebar comment from Michelle. But and
40:09
Speaker 1: she has she's got as far as she can go
40:11
Speaker 1: to keep the gig. She's got to sort of pull
40:13
Speaker 1: it back a bit.
40:14
Speaker 9: But I think we got the messes will.
40:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's been surprisingly strong, there's no question about that. Now,
40:21
Speaker 3: as we've been speaking about us heads to the polls
40:23
Speaker 3: in the next few hours, we're told, according to the polling.
40:27
Speaker 2: The races neck and neck.
40:28
Speaker 3: Now we've seen the former Prime Minister Tony Abbott come
40:31
Speaker 3: out and say that there's no need for Australia to
40:35
Speaker 3: worry about a Trump presidency. Abbott says he was a
40:38
Speaker 3: good president for Australia last time and there's no reason
40:41
Speaker 3: to think he wouldn't be again.
40:43
Speaker 2: James.
40:43
Speaker 3: We are seeing the Albanezy government trying to make in roads.
40:47
Speaker 3: We've seen Penny Wong meeting with Mike Pompeo. But it
40:51
Speaker 3: would definitely be easier for them if it's a Kamala
40:54
Speaker 3: Harris presidency.
40:56
Speaker 5: No question, no question.
40:57
Speaker 15: They would have been to the same camps and the
40:59
Speaker 15: same conferences with many of the people that would end
41:01
Speaker 15: up in.
41:01
Speaker 5: A Harris administration.
41:03
Speaker 15: I mean President Trump, some of the people who's likely
41:05
Speaker 15: to appoint to senior roles in the Pentagon and the
41:08
Speaker 15: State Department, people that I know personally, who I think
41:11
Speaker 15: would have the best interest of Australia at heart after
41:13
Speaker 15: they do their duty to America, and who understand the relationship.
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Speaker 2: Well, you've worked closely in US politics.
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Speaker 12: I have.
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Speaker 15: Look, I've met President Trump, I've met a number of
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Speaker 15: the people around him.
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Speaker 5: I know how they think.
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Speaker 15: We don't have to be terrified about the kind of
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Speaker 15: administration that they would run. It would be attuned to
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Speaker 15: Australia's interests. The President understands the importance of Australia internationally.
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Speaker 15: I think there's only really one area where we would
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Speaker 15: see some potential friction, and that's on Ukraine and Russia.
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Speaker 5: But largely the President.
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Speaker 15: Would be supportive of what we're trying to do in
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Speaker 15: our part of the world.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Gary Hargrave, James Brown. Great to see
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Speaker 3: you both tonight. Thank you very much for your insights.
41:49
Speaker 3: And then still to come.
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Speaker 2: On the show. As I said, just hours away.
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Speaker 3: From the polls, there are already fraud claims in a
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Speaker 3: critical battleground state. Plus Nancy Pelosi hits out at Trump's
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Speaker 3: mental acuity after ignoring Biden's problems for years. I'm going
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Speaker 3: to get the latest from Washington with Annalise Nielsen after
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Speaker 3: the break.
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Speaker 2: All right, well, before we wrap up the.
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Speaker 3: Show tonight, let's get a final check in on the
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Speaker 3: ground in the US with our Washington correspondent Annalise Nilsen.
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Speaker 3: I spoke to her a little earlier about Nancy Pelosi's
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Speaker 3: final insult, fraudulent voter registrations, and Kamala Harris's star studded
42:29
Speaker 3: lineup here she is Analie Nielsen.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi has had a final jab at Donald Trump,
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Speaker 3: saying that his brain is deteriorating. Do these kind of
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Speaker 3: insults work in the final days of the campaign.
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Speaker 7: Well, look, it works for the Democrat base. But this
42:48
Speaker 7: isn't just Nancy Pelosi. This has been a lot of
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Speaker 7: Democrats using this attack line, and the reason I think
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Speaker 7: it's so significant is they've never acknowledged there's any issue
42:58
Speaker 7: with Joe Biden. Even when he stepped side, it was
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Speaker 7: for the good of the party, it was that he
43:02
Speaker 7: was polling better. They've never acknowledged that there's an issue there,
43:06
Speaker 7: and they still haven't. He's still the president of the
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Speaker 7: United States, and so I think it's a misfire in
43:12
Speaker 7: that Americans have really lost trust and how that issue
43:15
Speaker 7: has been covered, that the media didn't cover that he
43:19
Speaker 7: was having issues as he sought to run again, and
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Speaker 7: the fact Kamala Harris has only been in this race
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Speaker 7: for a few months.
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Speaker 2: Because of that.
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Speaker 7: So I think it is an alarming thing that they're
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Speaker 7: focusing on, and I think it's worth calling out as
43:34
Speaker 7: we come into these final days of the election that
43:36
Speaker 7: they have been using this attack line to say that
43:38
Speaker 7: they think Donald Trump's in cognitive decline. Whatever you think
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Speaker 7: of the guy, if you think he's nuts when you
43:44
Speaker 7: look at him.
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Speaker 2: He can get up there for hours.
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Speaker 7: He does weave, as he calls it, he goes off
43:48
Speaker 7: on tangents, but it is not the same kind of
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Speaker 7: thing that we're seeing with Joe Biden where he's looking
43:53
Speaker 7: like he's confused, he has.
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Speaker 2: Issues walking and freezes.
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Speaker 7: It is a completely different thing, and Somocrats to now
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Speaker 7: be pulling this out, I think is worth paying attention to.
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Speaker 3: Look, there's an issue in Pennsylvania where there are concerns
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Speaker 3: about fraudulent voter registrations and ballot applications. How concerning is
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Speaker 3: this and how will it be dealt with?
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Speaker 7: So, look, this is one of the really interesting challenges
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Speaker 7: of this election as they've been putting more effort into
44:22
Speaker 7: getting people to cast.
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Speaker 2: Ballots early and by mail.
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Speaker 7: One of the things that they do in some states,
44:28
Speaker 7: and remember in the US, election rules are set in
44:30
Speaker 7: each state differently. They're administered by the state, the Secretary
44:35
Speaker 7: of States and the local counties. And so what they
44:38
Speaker 7: do is they hand out these forms for voter registration.
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Speaker 7: Anyone can fill them out and put them in. It
44:43
Speaker 7: doesn't necessarily.
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Speaker 2: Mean you have a balance.
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Speaker 7: So what they found in Lancaster County was twenty five
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Speaker 7: hundred were flagged for potential fraudulent applications to get a ballot.
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Speaker 7: So that doesn't mean that there's a ballot that's been
44:55
Speaker 7: put in the box, that there's an issue, but it
44:56
Speaker 7: does mean that someone was trying to get their hands
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Speaker 7: on fake ones. So they found that a certain percentage
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Speaker 7: of these have been found to be fraudulent. They do
45:03
Speaker 7: have to go through them. Sometimes people just don't fill
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Speaker 7: them out correctly. But this is the concern that this
45:09
Speaker 7: could be happening at county levels, and when we're talking
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Speaker 7: about these election results being as tight as we anticipate
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Speaker 7: them to with the polling as it is now, we
45:17
Speaker 7: could be talking about a state being decided by just
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Speaker 7: a few thousand votes. It happened last election that key
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Speaker 7: battleground states were decided by ten thousand votes, and so
45:26
Speaker 7: these issues can be consequential.
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Speaker 2: What we're seeing different this time is.
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Speaker 7: That the Republican Party especially has been very on the
45:33
Speaker 7: front foot about this. Laura Trump today has said that
45:35
Speaker 7: there are two hundred and thirty thousand poll watchers and
45:38
Speaker 7: poll workers on behalf of the Republican Party keeping an
45:42
Speaker 7: eye on how these ballots are cast, and that's just
45:45
Speaker 7: as important in America as who you're casting the ballot for.
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Speaker 3: Annalise, We've seen a lot of celebrities come out for
45:52
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, particularly in recent days.
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Speaker 2: Does this resonate with American voters.
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Speaker 7: Well, look, it does work with younger voters in particular.
46:02
Speaker 2: We know that they can be quite fickle.
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Speaker 7: They can have a strong opinion but perhaps not end
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Speaker 7: up casting a ballot at the end of the day
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Speaker 7: in a country with votings not compulsory. But the key
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Speaker 7: thing it does is get them unearned media. And so
46:14
Speaker 7: this is the concept where they get a celebrity out
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Speaker 7: there and they get Good Morning America covering it the
46:20
Speaker 7: next morning is their lead instead of a policy announcement,
46:23
Speaker 7: and that's still good for the campaign. They get social
46:25
Speaker 7: media traction, they get TikTok videos, and younger people especially
46:29
Speaker 7: become more engaged with it. And then the other thing
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Speaker 7: it does is just kind of normalize it. If you're
46:34
Speaker 7: someone who's sitting on the fence and your favorite celebrities
46:37
Speaker 7: are all hanging out with Kamala Harris, you start to
46:39
Speaker 7: just become normalized to her presence, and especially important for
46:42
Speaker 7: someone who hasn't been on the campaign trail that long.
46:45
Speaker 7: A few months ago, she was still running to BVP,
46:48
Speaker 7: So I think it all helps her on that front
46:50
Speaker 7: in saying that not many people will ever say to you,
46:53
Speaker 7: oh I wasn't going to vote for Kamala Harris, but
46:55
Speaker 7: then Taylor Swift told me to, so I did. But
46:58
Speaker 7: you never know some of those younger voters. She does
46:59
Speaker 7: have a pretty devoted following.
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Speaker 2: And Alie, thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 7: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: You have to worry if there are voters who are
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Speaker 3: taking voting advice from celebrities. But I suppose if there
47:15
Speaker 3: are sound young voters and they don't know which way
47:17
Speaker 3: they're going, then they might just follow Taylor Swift. On
47:20
Speaker 3: the other hand, you've got big figures like Elon Musk
47:23
Speaker 3: and Joe Rogan just today as well came out to
47:26
Speaker 3: endorse Donald Trump. Now, just before I go in around,
47:30
Speaker 3: you may have seen this news that a courageous female
47:34
Speaker 3: student has been detained after walking in the street in
47:37
Speaker 3: her underwear. Now, she was initially disciplined by the morality
47:42
Speaker 3: police for not wearing a head covering and so in
47:45
Speaker 3: protest at around strict Islamic dress code, she's stripped down
47:49
Speaker 3: to her underwear. She was arrested and she's now reported
47:53
Speaker 3: to be in a psychiatric ward. Now we see this
47:57
Speaker 3: constant obsession with ISA in the media and at university students.
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Speaker 2: But you have to ask why they aren't.
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Speaker 3: Protesting this shocking treatment of women in nations like Iran
48:11
Speaker 3: and likewise. You probably haven't heard that Benjamin Ettanyahu has
48:15
Speaker 3: offered millions of dollars to those who can safely release
48:20
Speaker 3: the hostages. And it's Amas who is killing off yet
48:23
Speaker 3: another ceasefire hostage deal. All right, make sure you tune
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Speaker 3: in tomorrow night at eight o'clock. We'll have the full
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Speaker 3: details on the US election. Right now, here's Paul Murray