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The IndyCar Report with Elijah Poe: Iowa Preview (Podcast No. 322.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_02]: out here today at Craig Park in Greenwood to talk about Indie car racing with Elijah Poe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to remind you that we have the Indie car report every single week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll typically and hopefully more consistently once our star, our second season, appear mid-week, probably Wednesday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll determine that soon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And after each race, we will have a report on the race with a
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[SPEAKER_02]: a newspaper style recap.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like to say since I come from the newspaper days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we have a preview between qualifying and the race, but we're not going to be able to do that this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We will explain that you are listening to the Central Indiana Sports Report podcast number three hundred and twenty-one point three, the Indie car reports for the last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're listening to the central Indiana Sports Report with your host, Greg Midgale.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome, Elijah, second time and about a week that we've done this face to face.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So happy to see you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I happen to be passing through Greenwood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You happen to be in Greenwood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we decided to do this face to face this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How you been?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No better timing with a double-hitter Iowa here coming up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Being in Craig Park in Greenwood, that's beautiful summer night and no better timing for it than right in the middle of the any car season here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it really is the sweet spot of the indie car schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously May is what everybody is most interested in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's never going to change.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Having said that, this is the sweet spot of the schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we talked about five races and five weeks if you include the double header this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There isn't much better time to be an indie car fan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, there's not, especially with a couple of short ovals here at Iowa, and then we go to Milwaukee later on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Really great time to be in any car fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These five runs are good when a lot of good ones coming up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and hopefully, you know, we see at Iowa a great race here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It should be interesting to see how it plays out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The track's definitely changed over the last couple of years with NASCAR repaving it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Regardless, any cars on a short oval, it's a great time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What kind of racing are you expecting?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm expecting a bad race, I honestly am.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was looking at the stats from last year, and before the repave in twenty twenty three, any car had fifteen hundred passes on track with three hundred nineteen being four position.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Last year after the repave, any car had a hundred and ninety two total passes on track, a hundred being four position.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this repave is coming from NASCAR coming back to Iowa Speedway, obviously NASCAR owns the track itself, so they were allowed to
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're allowed to do whatever they want, but it's still, it's still raceable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it is still raceable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I almost fear it might be the same this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to have a high line practice on Friday, but it might rain after that practice session.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So if it does rain, that grip that they put on that high line is pretty much all going to be washed away, literally.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you do a rain dance, rain can stay away, and that second line can be open.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At least for a few laps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At least for a few until those, until those, that line turns into marbles, and then, and then
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[SPEAKER_02]: It all changes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see Indie Carr has done an amazing job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can tolerate a few bad ones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've done an amazing job with this formula.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know we've talked about this a little bit on our midseason review.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But man race after race after race, it just delivers this week at deliver because of the mistake of a driver, but still it delivered.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was high drama, great racing throughout the pack, every race has been amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know we've only had three different winners, but it's been very competitive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: just an A plus of the season so far.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It really is, and to think it's an A plus of a season when you only have three race winners, and one of those winners has won six out of the first ten races.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would be shocked if you gave me these stats before the season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd probably look at those and say, oh, what a horrible season, any car's having.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That looks like it's no fun at all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But in reality, the action on track has been amazing, and no better action than Santino Fruci and Connor Daily getting into it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We will talk about that in just a moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: wanted to say that we are doing things a little bit different this week because of the double header and qualifying being on Saturday I was thinking it was on Friday and we could do the podcast the preview after qualifying on Friday that is now not going to be possible clearly so we are going to do this is the preview and then talk
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[SPEAKER_02]: after Saturday's race and after Sunday's race we'll have more to talk about and so wanted to let the listeners know what we're going to be doing look forward to doing this with you into the future and excited about our coming indie car coverage yeah there's nothing better than talking about any cards
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of the best series of motorsports on in the world and I don't think it gets enough recognition as it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously it's big in Indiana because you live close enough to the Indianapolis Motors Speedway but comparative the formula one I think the racing product is it's not even close.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We spend the last week just bashing for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was not just you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're on the first two when we talk about indie car every week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He answers five questions about central Indiana sports and he's a big indie car guy too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You will be spending a lot of time with him on the podcast in the future.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad we delayed the podcast until Thursday because we got same Tino for Ruchi's response to Connor daily and it's gotten spicy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like both these drivers, but you know what I really love.
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[SPEAKER_03]: drama.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's the best.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is the best.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In case you're not sure what we're talking about, we're talking about the collision incident.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you want to call it that on Sunday with Santino Fruci running Connor daily wide, but as Santino said today, telemetry actually showed Connor daily with a little bit of break check into that corner before he pushed him off wide.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we had both drivers kind of going back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why he didn't expect it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Santino did accept responsibility for the incident.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he also had to make some jabs in there called Conradalia back marker and said he'll remember the incident and that he's had his number on ovals for the past a couple years and he is going to use his abilities on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the interview started with Bob Pockross with Santino saying, oh, my bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My bad, I was, it was my responsibility.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he said, but he went, but, and then he had to go and turn this into a rivalry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And haven't Connor Daily and Santino Farugio has kind of been friends.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I guess you could call it friend of me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's made it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Friendly, at least.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would say relatively friendly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Connor's always been a little bit outspoken about any driver on the grid, especially on his own.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is not afraid to share his opinion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why we love him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why he's got his own podcast, the speech-free podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's passionate about bringing fans in the sport and what way to do it then.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have a rivalry with one of the most aggressive drivers on the grid with Santino.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are two of the most aggressive drivers on the grid, particularly on ovals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would, and he actually called him, saying, you know, you brought up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But basically said, I'm being even better on ovals than Conner is what even, what's that about?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm honestly not sure where Santino got that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I almost guarantee if you if you compare race race starts and where they finish, I would bet they're around the same spot on ovals just because the two drive so similarly on them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I would be really shocked we don't come out of these two races and a practice without them coming together once.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now it might not be a full incident.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to avoid each other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It might not be a full incident, but I'll avoid each other for a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Santino did say that on the pit lane after the race that he didn't like the way that Connor responded to, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or he said he was going to apologize.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to try to go over, but he I don't think he did not like the way he recited it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it weird that it makes me like both of them more?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's great for the sport.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't blame me at all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't blame me at all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Especially when you have two talented drivers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously they're very different.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Santino's obviously got a little bit of more a career path laid out for him than Conner Daily does.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But on face value, these are two of the most aggressive drivers in the series.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And just having them a chance to battle, I think it's what every fan wants.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Alongside great storylines for the championship as well and who can win on a short oval?
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's so many storylines in this sport right now, and adding another one's green.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, since Dale earned hard juniors guy, Santino Farucci, remember how much he loves him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, against Central Indiana's guy, Connor Daily.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Santino, some advice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't mess with Central Indiana's guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'll be damned to find a...
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... in indiana person that is not a conner daily fan he is pretty much our hero in the state well wife even loves him because he was on uh... the amazing race yes he was what happened here's on amazing race as she loved him then too so we won't know much until the first practice on friday so later today qualifying is saturday noon you said yep what have we learned from a recent test though
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so any car tested at Iowa about a week and a half ago, where yours truly countered daily was fastest out of the twenty one who did test at Iowa.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All we know is these fastest we're not sure where we're everywhere else that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know below was second and the myrshank cars were in the top ten, but since it was a closed test, we don't have the official results.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like a spreadsheet and I haven't found it yet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's odd.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, we know that that daily was fastest and one of the main things from his interview was saying they really need to have a great showing at Iowa.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's been a talk in the any car paddock as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't be surprised to see this race off the schedule for next year without low attendance has been.
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[SPEAKER_03]: in the past couple years the racing has dipped down, which is I think we really need a big result for this race.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can we replace it with Phoenix because it's so early in the year that it could give us an oval before Indy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's not the same kind of oval, but we really like to have one oval before Indy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would love to have a homestead.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, or even homestead.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would love to have them at back at Phoenix.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's such a great race.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's so traditional.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And every indie car fan talks about it like they went it back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know I think NASCAR runs that property as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love flat short ovals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing better than Phoenix's in this flat as it used to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: like Milwaukee.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, also not as flat as it used to be, but still very flat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll be interested to see what they do with their schedule next year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know Doug Bowles has been on the record saying he wants to reach that that seventeen race mark that we have this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously you're adding a race in Arlington around the cowboy stadium next season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be really cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Really cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love it and they're speculated but every time you add one of those you need to add an oval guys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're so hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so much easier to do the road and street courses.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think the any car paddock is tied at this point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe not the paddock but maybe the upper management and what fans want because you know you look at Formula One that have so much success on these street courses and road courses.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's hard for any car not to look at that and say, you know, like we can copy that success, but any car has something unique is that they can run on ovals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't run any ovals, you lose a lot of really top flight, potential American drivers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You lose, uh, Connor daily be gone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He would be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For example, half the field would be gone.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You'd be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would be completely dominated by a couple of guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not what we want.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not how Americans like their sports.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You gotta have your ovals.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'd be interested to see what they're able to add next year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Build them Roger if you need to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Build them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's got the money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He has got the money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Got a great formula.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You need to show it off.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, to see where they go in twenty six is going to be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they had this schedule released.
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[SPEAKER_03]: well in advance before the time period we're at now so it is a little concerning that we don't have a a solid schedule in place just because you know these races are going to start might be a good thing good and I think it's good and bad but you know races are going to start here in eight months for the for the next season so yeah but I think we know we obviously know we're starting to see Pete and stuff like that but yeah of course we know most of the schedule it's almost certain we know that uh... thermals gone yeah
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we know a lot I think it's probable that races like Iowa you could chance that's gone
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[SPEAKER_02]: as long as you can find some ovals, and don't race on at the end of the oval twice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be so religious.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I honestly, I would not be too opposed for them bringing back two races at the NGP.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a great course.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's pretty competitive there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The fan turned out's pretty great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like a no-brainer to me, but obviously that's kind of me being selfish as well, because I can go to that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But rather double-header weekend instead of
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[SPEAKER_02]: for Indians that have trying to do it at two different times.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I could see that as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The only thing is you would definitely have to move that double header maybe a week back because obviously the GP now runs into May.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We had two weird barber and the GP in May.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that'd be feasible for teams to have two races at the GP and then turn around their setups for the
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[SPEAKER_03]: for the oval as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that'd be a little bit much.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I would love to see two races back there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They used to do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: One in May, one in August.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But haven't been back since.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry about the wind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was too nice of a day to do this inside, right Elijah?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Beautiful out here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: huge, huge, huge, huge weekend for Penske.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Going into this race, the Team Penske drivers have been on Pola, Iowa, eleven out of thirteen times, and the past thirteen races there, but this season they don't have a win to show for.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Joseph New Gardens
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[SPEAKER_03]: had a horrible year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Will powers had a pretty bad year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the last four or five races have been just tragic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a tragic, tragic, a good word for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if every car is not crashing out, it sure does feel like if that interim crew was hoping to send into the Pinsky organization.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're not going to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they literally might be the worst team right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would say so just because they might not be the obviously they're not the worst twenty-fourth twenty-seventh last week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean obviously that's bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would say they're not the worse on on performance, but I would say mentality and kind of feel around the team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean they are so far in the dumps right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What they need to take out of this is it happens.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the or as an organization, it happens.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a chance now to start completely from scratch and build this thing back into a champion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that'll be a great story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's how they need to focus on it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Joseph New Garden needs to quit pouting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He really does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We all love him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He needs to quit pouting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get out there and talk to the media and just say, Hey, this happened sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've had an organizational, organizational upheaval.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It happens.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be tough through it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to, we're going to talk, running away from the media, especially the Indie car radio people who asked you and invited you on their post ratio and you say, no, that's pitiful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, Joseph, that's bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is a bad, especially it makes the series look bad because he is one of the three drivers, Joseph Joseph.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Paddo Award.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Probably number one.
16:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
16:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Joseph Paddo Award and Alex Polo, those are the drivers they post and they really market well.
16:22
[SPEAKER_03]: And for him to be denying TV requests, especially in the car radio, the guys are there every single week.
16:27
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
16:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're great.
16:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
16:30
[SPEAKER_02]: If they weren't great, then maybe, yeah.
16:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Those guys are too great to disrespect and say no to their invitation.
16:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not like they're going to ask them a question you haven't heard before.
16:39
[SPEAKER_03]: And at the point is racing.
16:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You should have it prepared for when this happened.
16:42
[SPEAKER_02]: If I go out early,
16:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna say, yeah, it's a rough year.
16:48
[SPEAKER_02]: It happens.
16:49
[SPEAKER_02]: We're pensky.
16:50
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be back.
16:50
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all.
16:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
16:51
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all unexpected of you, Joseph.
16:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Go do it.
16:53
[SPEAKER_03]: But that being said, I would be very shocked if a pensky does not win an Iowa.
16:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
16:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I really would.
16:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be shocked if there's any in the top five.
17:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, top five.
17:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's that bad.
17:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I, with how crazy their seasons been up.
17:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I can really see either, or I just, it's a glockling could win for sure.
17:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
17:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think Joe Newvard can definitely win.
17:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
17:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure he's mentally in the right place.
17:19
[SPEAKER_03]: No, and it would be hard, you know, losing your strategist and Tim Strick and the top of Team Pinsky Racing.
17:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you said, it has been an upheaval, and they're still trying to rebound.
17:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You think he's embarrassed?
17:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that part of it about this?
17:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's, nobody blames him.
17:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think anybody.
17:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw a couple
17:35
[SPEAKER_02]: like during Indy, Joseph New Gardens a cheater.
17:38
[SPEAKER_02]: He will twitch Eve into winners.
17:39
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just some stupid people on Twitter.
17:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody thinks Joseph New Garden had anything to do with this.
17:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe it's a little embarrassment though.
17:49
[SPEAKER_02]: at that in particular, the being labeled a cheater.
17:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I could see embarrassment or it's not shame, it's because he obviously is expected to have this great of a season.
17:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's more just disappointed in the organization as a whole.
18:03
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just been such a bad year.
18:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't say it enough.
18:07
[SPEAKER_03]: You look at the stats.
18:08
[SPEAKER_03]: They haven't been this bad since two thousand.
18:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's twenty five years.
18:11
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
18:11
[SPEAKER_02]: You know how much this says about the series that the guy who owns the series.
18:15
[SPEAKER_02]: His team is this bad and he's allowing it and it says so much about the series and Roger Pinsky.
18:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I know we blushed over him last week.
18:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never been a Pinsky fan.
18:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I've always been anybody but Pinsky.
18:27
[SPEAKER_02]: He has done a phenomenal job running this and it really needed it.
18:31
[SPEAKER_03]: It does.
18:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish it would get more attention.
18:34
[SPEAKER_03]: the way he's done he's done things in the past couple years obviously just having the having the sense to fire those people after the attenuator issue in Indy is it's really risky to do and even though he's he's biting the bullet right now he's dealing with the consequences he has to and for him to have that probably worse for him than losing his staff was being put to the back of the field at Indy because how much he loves Indy that's his first love
19:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was brutal and yeah, he's probably even more mad at Newgarm Maybe what a one that's if he did very well if he didn't have an issue You would have been coming from the third row instead of the or the fourth row instead of the eleventh and He was coming and they'll never know about poor Scotty Mac Right on the right on the right on the right on the plate pace lap who happened to Thompson evil once and he won the five hundred so it'll be alright Yeah, Elijah I've been thinking I feel bad for you that you didn't get to see the glory days of
19:29
[SPEAKER_02]: boy and ready, answer, rather for just so many great names.
19:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Thompson Eve, I was just telling you Thompson Eve a story, Gordon Johncock, but it kind of seems like we're heading into the glory days now, you know, Andy on the office once said.
19:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish somebody would have told me it was the good old days when it was the good old days.
19:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think for the ending car, we're getting really close.
19:53
[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing that's missing is the huge audience from the seventies and eighties.
19:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's hard to say it's not right now.
19:58
[SPEAKER_03]: You look at the talent this field has.
20:01
[SPEAKER_03]: You have veterans like Will Power and Scott Dixon, young, young stars like Alex Ploan, Paddo Award.
20:07
[SPEAKER_03]: The series is at a great spot.
20:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to reiterate this again and again, the formula that they've built with these cars.
20:15
[SPEAKER_02]: is the reason that these stars are being made.
20:18
[SPEAKER_02]: This is amazing racing that it makes superstars.
20:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I can't wait to see what it looks like at Iowa this year.
20:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Just hoping it's a better race than last year, but you really never know with these short ovals.
20:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I know a lot of drivers were down on on even St.
20:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Louis last year.
20:36
[SPEAKER_03]: They said, Oh, this race is going to be boring.
20:38
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we're not going to be able to pass anybody, but
20:40
[SPEAKER_03]: You really never know with any car until those cars start over that Nashville coming up.
20:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Nashville's gonna be a great one.
20:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was a great one last year.
20:48
[SPEAKER_02]: It was great last year for sure.
20:49
[SPEAKER_02]: It hasn't always been great, but last year it was for sure.
20:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Before we move on, what are some other ovals?
20:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Not all of them are options for different reasons, but you'd like to see Pocano and Michigan come to top of mind as super speedways.
21:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Michigan might be number one, especially on X this year, there's been a big revival talk about any car getting back to Michigan.
21:13
[SPEAKER_03]: It'll be wonderful.
21:13
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's great for the series, not only do you add another race, selfishly, it's another race in the Midwest where most of your fans are at.
21:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and you need an oval triple crown.
21:23
[SPEAKER_02]: You really do.
21:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they do.
21:25
[SPEAKER_03]: They really are.
21:27
[SPEAKER_03]: They weren't kind of hurt.
21:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess what would you say they're the potential over oval triple crown would be for any car other than obviously the five hundred there.
21:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Any any super speedway was always the idea that when back when they did it in the seventies it was the three super speedways Michigan Pocano and Indianapolis.
21:43
[SPEAKER_02]: or Fontana when it came when it opened.
21:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Now it would be pretty easy to go indie in Milwaukee.
21:48
[SPEAKER_02]: You start there because those are the two oldest tracks in the world.
21:53
[SPEAKER_02]: If not the world in America and whatever other one that you wanted to do it,
21:58
[SPEAKER_02]: or a grand slam if you wanted to do four.
22:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good idea.
22:02
[SPEAKER_02]: You call those the grand slam races.
22:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You raise the tendons for those.
22:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't lose any attendance on the others.
22:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, any could do five triple crowns in the same season.
22:12
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be a really cool thing to do.
22:14
[SPEAKER_02]: You could do a road oval and three or four triple crown.
22:20
[SPEAKER_02]: There's all kinds of different things you could do to add interest.
22:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I probably won't, I'll probably save the off season to tell the marketing department what I feel about it, because I'm not a fan.
22:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
22:31
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many ways you can market the sport better and it deserves it.
22:34
[SPEAKER_03]: It does feel like there is any cars almost playing catch up to some of the other motor sports series in the world right now.
22:41
[SPEAKER_03]: NASCAR is not a great, great job on social media.
22:45
[SPEAKER_03]: They're still there, but their marketing is next and on.
22:48
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why you have almost two million, three million people race on network TV weekend and we go.
22:54
[SPEAKER_02]: We're about a regular season championship and then a road course, a street course and an oval of the last three races to determine the champion.
23:03
[SPEAKER_02]: There's all kinds of ways you could like a play on like a playoff.
23:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't want to copy NASCAR, but it's a different type of playoff, just three races on three different road court, on three different style courses.
23:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I could see that playing out.
23:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the only thing that would be deterrent for it, I think the teams wouldn't want to do it.
23:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably not.
23:21
[SPEAKER_02]: It would mean indie means nothing to the playoff, but you would still have the regular season national champion, traditional champion like
23:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Alex below's about to win for the fourth time in five years.
23:33
[SPEAKER_02]: But then you would also have a Super Bowl champion, maybe draw some attention and it would have to be three warm places because you probably do it in November, maybe even early December.
23:45
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's an interesting thought.
23:47
[SPEAKER_02]: It could be a possibility.
23:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I might add to the Texas crowd if you wanted to do it there.
23:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe bring Phoenix back to do the, there's all kinds of ideas for that.
23:55
[SPEAKER_02]: But these are all topics for the off season.
23:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because there's lots of off season.
24:00
[SPEAKER_03]: There is a lot of off season talk.
24:01
[SPEAKER_03]: It'll be interesting to see just where they, they plan to go next year.
24:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really interested in two years from now.
24:08
[SPEAKER_02]: What's up again?
24:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Because next year, I'm pretty sure they've got it, ninety-nine percent down.
24:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
24:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Two years from now will be interesting to see what they've got in the works.
24:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Roger is like us.
24:19
[SPEAKER_02]: He wants what's best for the sport.
24:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I truly believe that now.
24:22
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to do what's best for the sport and that has to be not discontinuing ovals.
24:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
24:28
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think he knows that.
24:28
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a huge factor.
24:30
[SPEAKER_03]: He's an oval guy himself.
24:32
[SPEAKER_03]: It's why I bought the this week way.
24:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Going way back to Mark Donnickew.
24:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but they're talking about bringing in Mexico City.
24:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure that's going to be a rock for next year.
24:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And I've also heard talks recently about them adding a street course to Denver as well or even San Diego.
24:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I know NASCAR has been in talks to have a street course down in San Diego.
24:51
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll do more races.
24:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do twenty-two a year.
24:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I would love them to get over the twenty mark.
24:56
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, having a season that starts in March and ends in August, I get you don't want to run into a football season because that's obviously going to hurt your viewers.
25:05
[SPEAKER_03]: But man, that season feels sore compared to a formula one where you start in February and you don't end till December.
25:10
[SPEAKER_03]: You gotta make it special.
25:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
25:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And you can do it in the middle of the week.
25:13
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no rule that says you can't.
25:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
25:15
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know Friday night, there's no football.
25:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And I would love a Friday night race.
25:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I think most fans would.
25:22
[SPEAKER_03]: It would be interesting to see if they do add races and they get into football season.
25:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not quite sure what Fox would do with indie car because they would obviously prioritize the NFL.
25:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Find a time when there's no NFL.
25:33
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not that hard.
25:36
[SPEAKER_02]: So if Alex Polo wins on Saturday, they just cancel Sunday's race on the rest of the season.
25:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what happens?
25:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I honestly would be very shocked to see Alex Polo win on a short oval.
25:46
[SPEAKER_02]: You said he was second fastest than testing.
25:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but you know, you're gonna win this race.
25:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I would be shocked.
25:52
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, obviously you got it done on on IMS, but I win this race.
25:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I just can't see it.
25:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't until he wins on us and on oval, that's not IMS.
26:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I you mess is so different than the other ovals.
26:05
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it's an oval, but it's really not.
26:07
[SPEAKER_02]: He laughed off finishing second last week.
26:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
26:10
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to bring that into this weekend and he's going to win this race.
26:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll believe it when I see it.
26:15
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
26:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I really will.
26:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously your prediction.
26:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess a new guard.
26:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I like Joseph.
26:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I really do.
26:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'll take a pillow versus a new garden head to head in.
26:26
[SPEAKER_02]: If we had it, we had it on this race.
26:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Hello new garden.
26:31
[SPEAKER_03]: McLaughlin, Dixon, Patto, I want frucci and daily.
26:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I really do think daily is gonna be around fifth or seventh.
26:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
26:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I really did.
26:40
[SPEAKER_02]: If he's up there, he's got a shot.
26:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like the Scandinavians and this one as well, especially those dains.
26:48
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been way too long since you've been in victory lane, you dains.
26:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And in particular, and if I was gonna pick a after-polo Felix Rosenquist, I think it's gonna have a big weekend.
27:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, those Martian cars were there, were there up in the top charts in testing and Felix Rosenquist has been so consistent all season.
27:08
[SPEAKER_03]: He's six in the points in a Martian.
27:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Martian is not a bad team in any means, but they are.
27:13
[SPEAKER_03]: They are relatively, relatively lightly.
27:17
[SPEAKER_03]: New to the sport.
27:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they're definitely in the bottom half of teams.
27:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, you have to say that at this point But to still have two drivers in the I mean you got think E-licks is at six and Marcus Armstrong is in eighth and both are are really really good on an oval.
27:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Felix is he's quick Great on ovals.
27:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be surprised if he is not right over the top
27:37
[SPEAKER_03]: All this being said, it just feels like no matter what, even if the racing maybe does take a hit off of the repave, it really does feel like this race could be pretty solid, just for storyline aspect as well.
27:50
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, for the weekend I've got Polo and Rosenquist, you'll take New Garden and... Next, come with off.
27:57
[SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna take both pins.
27:58
[SPEAKER_03]: He's only on the back on Pensky this week.
28:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I really am.
28:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like it can only get so bad and hey, we'll see if I'm right.
28:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe on Saturday.
28:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll have to eat my words.
28:08
[SPEAKER_02]: You will.
28:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks a lot.
28:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
28:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So much fun getting to hang out with Elijah for the second straight week.
28:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for to him for.
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