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Miles Mikolas unveils tech world of sign stealing & pitch tipping · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Hey, Miles, Michael List is here car parked. Good to
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  Speaker 1: see you, Miles, been a minute.
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  Speaker 2: How's the season?
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  Speaker 3: How's it going. Good to see you guys again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you too. I watched most of your start the
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  Speaker 1: other day and this is really how it happened. We're like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm texting with the group. You know, we got the
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  Speaker 1: whole ft team that keeps growing, and we're like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't had Miles on in a minute's pitching. Well
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  Speaker 1: we got to get them on. So how's life right
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  Speaker 1: now with the season. I know, obviously it's been kind
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  Speaker 1: of a weird year with the Cardinals still transitioning.
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  Speaker 4: But how's it going.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I personally myself, I've been on the
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  Speaker 5: roller coaster, you know, up and down, two steps forward,
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  Speaker 5: one steps back, like good starts, bad starts. But you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm trying to keep it even keel, you know, in
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  Speaker 5: the clubhouse for the young guys, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 5: send an example, do do whatever I can in that regards.
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  Speaker 5: But it's been a fun season. You know, we were
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  Speaker 5: we were slow early, we got hot and we were
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  Speaker 5: kind of in the mix, and then you know, unfortunately
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  Speaker 5: the deadline, you know, we got rid of some of
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  Speaker 5: our relievers, and you know, but we're still I feel
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  Speaker 5: like we're still right in the mix.
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  Speaker 3: And it's been a fun and as a team.
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  Speaker 5: I know, like individually, I think I could speak for
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  Speaker 5: everybody on the team, like we are having fun. We're
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  Speaker 5: we're playing fun, We're playing loose. You know, we'd like
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  Speaker 5: to play better. Probably I'd like to pitch better, you know,
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  Speaker 5: more often. And you know, everyone always wants to be better, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: For sure.
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  Speaker 6: I mean that's that's the name of the game. You
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  Speaker 6: don't sit there and go, man, my mustache looks tremendous.
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  Speaker 6: I hope, I just do mid. You want to play,
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  Speaker 6: You want to play your best.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you want to show up for the fans
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  Speaker 5: and for everybody when you when you go into a
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  Speaker 5: visiting city, you want to stick it to them. And
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  Speaker 5: you just want to really just you know, be your
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  Speaker 5: best and kind of, you know, kind of do that.
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  Speaker 5: And I've been pitching really good at home. And I
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  Speaker 5: like to make the joke. You know, my kids are
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  Speaker 5: here in Saint Louis right now, so they come to
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  Speaker 5: the games. I can't let them see their you know,
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  Speaker 5: see their old man giving it up, right, So I
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  Speaker 5: really gotta try my best. I start bringing my kids
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  Speaker 5: on the road with me, don't you know, to keep
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  Speaker 5: the pressure on.
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  Speaker 4: No, don't, don't. Don't bring your kids on the road.
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  Speaker 6: You do not need I'm sure you got a nice
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  Speaker 6: suite and everything, but you do not need that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, But it's tough traveling with four kids. Be
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  Speaker 3: be real, real tough.
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  Speaker 6: You're you're almost you're almost done. You'll get a lot
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  Speaker 6: of time with them. Then, all right, a few more
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  Speaker 6: years pitching, you know, you get like three or four,
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  Speaker 6: maybe a fifth year pitching, and then you can get
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  Speaker 6: you can go home and play with them all the time,
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  Speaker 6: all year long.
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  Speaker 4: They don't need to go round.
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  Speaker 5: Road trips are for you know, golfing with the boys
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  Speaker 5: and getting a good night's sleep.
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  Speaker 6: There you go, maybe maybe maybe catch a few fish too.
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  Speaker 6: But I want to talk about what you said about
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  Speaker 6: being an example for the guys. Yeah, dude, you make
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  Speaker 6: all of your starts in a day and age. We
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  Speaker 6: just got done talk about the Dodgers, where it's like, well,
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  Speaker 6: we're picking up these guys to make twenty to twenty
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  Speaker 6: five starts.
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  Speaker 4: Do you feel like you're slow? Happen?
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  Speaker 6: Dudes in the face, not just metaphorically slapping him in
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  Speaker 6: the face. When you hear that, they're like, oh man,
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  Speaker 6: you know I could. You know, we'll see him make
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  Speaker 6: twenty to twenty five starts and you're like, I'm making
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  Speaker 6: all thirty two. Sorry, And how hard is that to
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  Speaker 6: do because you're trying to be an example for young
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  Speaker 6: pictures like McGreevy and different guys that are coming up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's you know, that's that's one of
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  Speaker 5: the abilities, right. I had a coach before, and he's
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  Speaker 5: got all the abilities. One of the abilities is durability
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  Speaker 5: or availability. And you know, for someone like myself who,
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  Speaker 5: like I heard you guys talking about a minute ago,
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  Speaker 5: I don't throw one hundred and ten. So maybe it's
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  Speaker 5: easier for me to stay healthy because I'm not throwing
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  Speaker 5: one hundred and ten. But you know, that's that's one
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  Speaker 5: of those things that I feel like I can really
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  Speaker 5: control is my health. And it's something that I that
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  Speaker 5: I've really grown over the last couple of years. And
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  Speaker 5: it's tons of off season work, you know, in the gym,
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  Speaker 5: you know, stretching, being in ship, it's a healthy diet,
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  Speaker 5: it's knowing my body, you know, as i've gotten older,
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  Speaker 5: like like what I need, Like, man, I really need
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  Speaker 5: to focus on, you know, my shoulder or my elbow
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  Speaker 5: or my back, and there's other things that I can
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  Speaker 5: take less time with because that's that's not what I'm
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  Speaker 5: I'm needing, that's not what I feel. And you know,
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  Speaker 5: trying to set that example where even after a bad start,
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  Speaker 5: I'm I'm in there the next day, you know, whenever
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  Speaker 5: I'm supposed to be there, I'm in there the next day.
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  Speaker 5: I'm in the training room getting my work done. I'm
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  Speaker 5: in the gym, you know, working my tail off. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm a big lifting weights guide. Not everybody is. I'm
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  Speaker 5: you know, I lift weights for baseball, but I also
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  Speaker 5: want to look good, you know, in a bathing suit
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  Speaker 5: when I go home and I'm on the boat in
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  Speaker 5: the winter.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I domple for my kids. You know, we
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  Speaker 3: we eat healthy. We're a healthy family.
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  Speaker 5: And I think all those things tie in together, and
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  Speaker 5: I think it a lot of it goes to attitudes.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I have a running joke with our head trader here.
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  Speaker 5: It says, how's you know, how's miles to that said,
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  Speaker 5: I feel great, nothing hurts, I'm in the best shape
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  Speaker 5: my life and just you know, having that like that
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  Speaker 5: kind of attitude, you can almost mentally trick yourself into
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  Speaker 5: just feeling great.
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  Speaker 3: I feel great.
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  Speaker 5: The more you say it, I'll say it a couple
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  Speaker 5: of times more, I feel tremendous. I mean great shape,
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  Speaker 5: nothing hurts. I'm gonna go run and shag BP and
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  Speaker 5: throw a bullpen and lift weights. And you know, I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna empty the tank today because I start on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna empty the tank. Get used to the heat.
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  Speaker 5: It's hot as all get out here in Saint Louis,
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  Speaker 5: and you know I'm gonna get after it. And I'm
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  Speaker 5: and I'm gonna get after it for you know, thirty
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  Speaker 5: thirty two starts.
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  Speaker 2: So cratch your set at thirty six. You got five
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  Speaker 2: more years ago, which I think would be absolutely incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think after playing in the MLB, there any
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  Speaker 2: any truth to going, you know, back to Japan and
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  Speaker 2: playing over there at the MPB any rumored today?
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  Speaker 3: I would love to. I would love to.
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  Speaker 4: It was.
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  Speaker 5: The the more I look back on it, the more
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  Speaker 5: I can really appreciate that experience. I mean, the fans
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  Speaker 5: I still get, you know, messages from fans and When
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  Speaker 5: I talk to the Japanese media, they're always telling me,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the Japanese fans are always you know, checking
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  Speaker 5: in on me. I haven't been there in eight years,
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  Speaker 5: and I get messages on Instagram from you know, people
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  Speaker 5: I met passing by that have found me, had been like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you had a great start yesterday, Like you know, Tokyo
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  Speaker 5: is still you know, still watching you, and you know that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, maybe hopefully wherever I am next year or
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  Speaker 5: if I'm back in Japan, I'll be getting messages on
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  Speaker 5: Instagram from people in Saint Louis like, oh, I'm you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad you're doing well in Japan. I think it'd
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  Speaker 5: be fun for my kids. That's a great cultural experience.
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  Speaker 5: Japan is a beautiful place in spring and summer, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the cherry blossoms, the culture.
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  Speaker 3: It's such a clean, safe country. I don't know, forty one.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: You're gonna talk to my wife about, you know, me
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  Speaker 5: playing until I'm forty one. I'm I'm finishing up nine
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  Speaker 5: years this year. Next year would make ten. That's my
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  Speaker 5: main focus is just going your year. Finish this year healthy,
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  Speaker 5: hopefully finish it strong. So some teams can be interested
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  Speaker 5: and you know work, you know kind of work from there.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I want to play as long as I
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  Speaker 5: can healthy. I've seen what it looks like to be
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  Speaker 5: old and really struggle through those last you know, a
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  Speaker 5: couple of months or that last year. I'm not chasing
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  Speaker 5: any records. I'm not chasing the Hall of fame. I
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  Speaker 5: don't even know if I'm chasing the Hall of pretty good.
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  Speaker 5: I'm chasing the hall of the guy had a nice career,
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  Speaker 5: you know, ten years, that's an accomplishment. But at this point,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I want to play for teams that want
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  Speaker 5: to win that I can help win in any way,
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  Speaker 5: shape or form. And if that means playing one year,
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  Speaker 5: two years, five years, we're helping a team win the
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  Speaker 5: you know, the Nippon Cup, you know over there in Japan.
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  Speaker 5: You know, that's that's that's what I want to do.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Well, first of all, you can tell your wife.
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  Speaker 6: You can talk to your wife about anything, because you
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  Speaker 6: said you look good in a bathing suit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, that's what.
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  Speaker 6: You put the bathing suit on board, yup and do
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  Speaker 6: a front flip and the kids will be like, wow, Dad,
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  Speaker 6: you're the best. Plus, and the other part that you
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  Speaker 6: you said he was broken down, looked terrible in amathing suits.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, not him, not him.
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  Speaker 6: No, it was definitely it was definitely Wayne Right. I'm
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  Speaker 6: gonna make sure he knows that, so that we had
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  Speaker 6: it here first.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I've i've again, I've seen what that looks like.
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  Speaker 5: And that's a lot of work. It's a lot of work.
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  Speaker 5: And he was chasing he was chasing numbers. You know,
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  Speaker 5: he was chasing two hundred wins. He was chasing two
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  Speaker 5: hundred wins. And he I mean I get almost getting
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  Speaker 5: like goosebumps and chills thinking about it when I talk
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  Speaker 5: about it, Because when when when you talk about like
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm not gonna play catch today.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna save my bullets. You know I'm gonna save them.
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  Speaker 3: You're talking about a guy used.
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  Speaker 5: Every single bullet getting two hundred wins. It was the
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  Speaker 5: most incredible thing to watch, every single bullet. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: he got that two hundred wins. I think he was
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  Speaker 5: golfing like next week and he went to throw a
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  Speaker 5: pine cone out of a bunker and it just like
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  Speaker 5: like it was just noth like all bullets were baseball bullets.
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  Speaker 5: Could even throw a pine cone out of the bunker.
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  Speaker 8: Whoop.
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  Speaker 5: You know, after he hits it three hundred yards, you know,
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  Speaker 5: a little bit left, maybe maybe right. You know, probably
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  Speaker 5: went up and down. It's a great golfer, But talk
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  Speaker 5: about just using it. It was incredible. It was an
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  Speaker 5: incredible thing to watch and make that run. And I was,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I always gonna be a huge fan, best
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  Speaker 5: best teammate ever.
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  Speaker 4: All right, I won't. I guess it's not winning, right.
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  Speaker 6: But my question to you, you guys are three and
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  Speaker 6: a half out in the wildcard. I say on here
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  Speaker 6: all the time, and you guys traded some key pieces
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  Speaker 6: to your team, but you go out every day, like
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  Speaker 6: you said, to compete. How much is too much at
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  Speaker 6: one point of the season, Because I always say three
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  Speaker 6: games is so hard to overcome, and you guys are
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  Speaker 6: at that three and a half game mark, It is
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  Speaker 6: so hard to overcome in August.
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  Speaker 4: How do you guys look at it?
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  Speaker 6: I get it, you're gonna say the whole generic one
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  Speaker 6: name at a time, one pitch at a time, and
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  Speaker 6: cardinal way, and we're gonna smile and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 6: But truly, how much because you don't have a lot
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  Speaker 6: of teams in front of you.
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  Speaker 4: Guys. You have one team right now, and they're in
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  Speaker 4: your division.
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  Speaker 5: It's the Reds, right, it's the Reds. So we do
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  Speaker 5: have a handful of games against the Reds. Those are
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  Speaker 5: gonna be important, you know, talk about those three and
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  Speaker 5: you know, if it's still three and a half games
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  Speaker 5: after we play the Reds, and you know, and it's
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  Speaker 5: second third week, you know, first week of August or
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  Speaker 5: first week of September, I was gonna say, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but we've got you know, and the the Giants are
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  Speaker 5: still you know, the Giants are behind us, I know that,
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  Speaker 5: but they're they're beating up on the Well, the Giants
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  Speaker 5: fell further back in Arizona. Okay, Well, you know the
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  Speaker 5: Dodgers and Padres can really beat up on each other.
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  Speaker 5: You know, that's one of those things. But it's you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's Cincinnati, New York. New York sliding a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: They've had a rough go. When you put yourself three
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  Speaker 5: and a half games back, you start needing other teams
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  Speaker 5: to lose, which is I think.
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  Speaker 3: Why you say that that three games.
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  Speaker 5: Is tough, right, because we have to win and I
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  Speaker 5: think we ran into this last year where like we
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  Speaker 5: were playing kind of good at the end of the year,
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  Speaker 5: but so is everybody else that was in the mix.
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  Speaker 5: Like we would win three in a row and the
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  Speaker 5: Mets or Phillies would win three in a row, we
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't make up any ground. It's like, man, we just
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  Speaker 5: swept we just swept somebody, and we're still three games back.
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  Speaker 5: So I'd have to look at those at the other
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  Speaker 5: team schedules. You know, maybe the Mets have a really
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  Speaker 5: tough run. You know, maybe the Padres and Dodgers, or
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  Speaker 5: you know, the Phillies, whoever else is there, maybe the Reds.
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  Speaker 3: But maybe we can sweep the Reds and make up
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  Speaker 3: some ground.
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  Speaker 5: You know, maybe we can have good series against Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 5: that got some good pitching. You know, maybe we can
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  Speaker 5: we can steal something from then. We got a couple
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  Speaker 5: of games against the Brewers. I mean, they're they're they're
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  Speaker 5: way out there. You know, we won seventeen games in
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  Speaker 5: a row the one year.
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  Speaker 3: True, you know, true. All you gotta do is win
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  Speaker 3: seventeen games.
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  Speaker 4: In a row.
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  Speaker 1: If you guys win seventeen in a row, you will
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  Speaker 1: be in the postseason. I'm pretty sure that this much time.
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  Speaker 5: Left we were like it was like twenty games left
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  Speaker 5: in the season that year, and it's like all we
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  Speaker 5: gotta do is win out and we're good and we can.
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  Speaker 3: We did it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you talk about losing those bullpen arms. I've
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  Speaker 5: been so impressed with our bullpen arms that have come
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  Speaker 5: up and down in this organization.
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  Speaker 4: Share.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you got O'Brien, you got you know, Sponson,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Lea heat Fernandez is back up and looking
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  Speaker 5: really good.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you you lose back in bullpen guys.
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  Speaker 5: But like it seems like in this day and age,
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  Speaker 5: half the guys every other guy gets called up from
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  Speaker 5: Triple A s throwing one hundred was sync or throwing
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  Speaker 5: one hundred with a ninety three min hour cut or
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  Speaker 5: something like that. And you know, those are the kind
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  Speaker 5: of guys that that we brought up and they've been tremendous.
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  Speaker 5: They were they were tremendous working earlier in the games
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  Speaker 5: when they you know, in Hellsley and Phil and Matts,
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  Speaker 5: we're still here and they've they've slid into those you know,
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  Speaker 5: the back into those games, uh, pretty seamlessly, so I think,
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  Speaker 5: and then you know, relievers are really important. But if
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  Speaker 5: there's one thing that you can kind of mix and match,
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  Speaker 5: like late in the seasons, like you can play matchups
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  Speaker 5: with with relievers, and it's a little tougher than saying, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we got our closer.
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  Speaker 3: Boom, hell's it coming in.
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  Speaker 5: Here's one hundred and two, shut the door, you know,
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  Speaker 5: as opposed to Okay, here comes the ninth.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna use a little bit lefty, little righty. We
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  Speaker 3: got some sync, we got some cut.
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  Speaker 5: But I think we have the bullpen to to to
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  Speaker 5: kind of do that and kind of, you know, kind
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  Speaker 5: of fill that fill that gap. I've been super impressed
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: with all these young guys coming up out of the bullpen.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and hey Tigers last year mid August, they were
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: in a bad spot. Twins collapsed, they row there you go,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: so all right, yeah, one more for you before we
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: hit the brake. And it could be a little bit
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: of a loaded question, but last weekend you're playing the Cubs.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: What was the whole deal with the base coach stuff.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: We've had a lot of pitchers on lately that are like, hey,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: base coach has got to stay in there lane. We
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: don't want anyone you know, looking for tips, the whole deal.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: So what was going on there?
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: I think it is that that that's a little question.
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: You know, the box is there. You could stay in
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: the box. I mean, that's why it's there. If the
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: league wants to, you know, make that box bigger. They're
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: making everything bigger. The strike zone is smaller, the zone bigger,
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: the field whatever, they want to make the box bigger,
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: make it bigger.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: Other than that, you know, you could stay in your box.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: But I think the whole the thing that's different now,
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: like with signs stealing is like the video stuff, right,
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: It's like you know, back in the day, you know,
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: like my rookie year twenty twelve, and then before that,
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: like way back in the day, as a player, you
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: had to have some savvy.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: You had to like be on second base and you're
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: looking at signs and you're.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: Sneaking or like and even like the video you had
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: to watch was pretty grainy, and you'd have to be
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: on base or the coach would have to be like
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: a wizard at stealing signs. And and you know, now
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: you've got you know, five guys probably sitting in a
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: room just ripping through video looking for like oh, the
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: freckle on the back of his neck moves an inch
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: to the left when he's throwing a curveball. It's like, well,
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: that's kind of ridiculous, Like I don't I can't control
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: my freckles. I can't, you know, And you know, maybe
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: like guys like with a spike curveball, and it's you know,
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: the the angles are the boxes maybe where it is
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: for a reason. You know, you're gonna put your first
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: base coach behind my pitcher so he can look into
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: his glove, Like just put the put your first base
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: coach behind the mound, put him in a lawn chair
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: so you can watch every grip that I have in
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: my glove. I mean, there's there's there's some showmanship to it,
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: right Like if I'm really bad, if I come set
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: and my glove is here and I'm showing it to you,
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: shame on me. But if I've got it tucked in
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: tight to my chest and you're halfway down the foul
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: pole getting an angle on it, I don't know, that's
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: a little sketchy to me.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Right, Like there there's there's gamesmanship there. There there's there's gamesmanship.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: There's like okay, like you're going second sign at second base,
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: like we're picking him up all day because he's second signed.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: And then there's oh, our scouts ripped through the whole video,
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: like this is why we have pitch com now, because
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: you got people and I'm not gonna name names. You
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: got stadiums with the camera in center field flashing, lights moving, blinking.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: You got people banging on trash cans. You know you're
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: gonna bang on a trash can, hit a home run
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: because you knew what was coming, and then step on
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: home plate and thank Jesus for it, Like, no, dude,
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: thank the trash can. Your first base coach, Your first
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: base coach is telling you, hey, you got a heater coming.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: You know what's coming.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: He's halfway down the line, and then you're gonna be like, oh,
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: you know, thank god, I hit that ball.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: No, dude, thank your coach. He's halfway down the line
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: stealing pitches.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: Cause I got my tight to the chest like this,
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: trying not to hide it, and he's and he's getting
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: all you know, he's Lee Harvey Oswald in the book
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Depository with all the angles, trying to trying to do
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: what he's doing, you know, sniping you know, sniping signs
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: out of the glove. Yeah, so if if I'm so
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: bad at it, you know, my glove's here, I'm coming
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: up like you know, wiggling the ball in my hand
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: and you can see the split grip or something like that, Like, yeah,
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: shame on me. But if you're going above and beyond,
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: to me, that that's it, the above and beyond to
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: steal a sign, it's stealing signs illegal.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: No they're not.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: But if you're going above and beyond, it's a it's
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: a moral it's an ethics question. I gotta see in
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: moral ethics in college. I'm not the right guy to ask, maybe,
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: but it's a moral and ethics question. Where do you
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: draw the line that this is ethical and this is
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: not right?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Beautifully stated that that is the mic drop moment, perfect monologue,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: and it's a big topic that I think is not
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: getting enough play. So I knew you'd have one of
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the best answers of all time that basically took me
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: through a history lesson.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: There's feeling signs of thett League World Series and they're not
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: supposed to because the gamesmanship, right, it's it's little league.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Just hit the ball or don't you know?
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: And we got little feeling signs and they're supposed to
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: eject the kid. I saw some kid got ejected for
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: throwing his batway up in the air.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I was ready for that one too, Todd father, did
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you know where he was going there?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I got, yeah, yeah, they give warnings. Now you steal
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: signs in second base, they give warnings, and then it
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: turns out to be a bigger problem if that keeps going.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I remember, you know the kid. The kids
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: like out over out over fastball, like they would like
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: point and give you the sign of what's going on.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: So interesting, very interesting stuff in the little league baseball.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. So you can't steal signs? How how
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: can they tell if you're sneaky enough with it?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean as a twelve year old, really sneaky
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: of going like this, Well, they don't have to, you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: hold the right arm down for a fastball, you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and then you'll confuse them and it's hard, it's hard,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: for sure. They're very they show it for sure.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: That's the good stuff there. That was an all timer.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: That that rant from Miles Michaelis took me on a
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: journey for real.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: I did a great guess. I didn't want it to end.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to me.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Neither me neither. But somebody, Yeah, we were well, we
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: were being yelled at for for for commercial breaks and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: all that. But also I legitimately the connection FROs.
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: He ran out of minutes, He ran out of minutes,
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: or maybe or maybe somebody from the MLB offices shut
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: his phone down.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: They were like, stop, we're gonna need to.
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: Do an investigation one year after all the stuff happened,
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: since we're not proactive on anything. It.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: There's a reason why I'm bringing up this topic to
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: pictures lately. Right, you know, there's conversations that happen with
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: players and stuff on the field, right, and it doesn't
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: really hit the mainstream, and then all of a sudden
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: it explodes. This feels like one of those topics. It
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: always is with signs stealing, But this feels like the
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: next chapter does it?
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Not watch?
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: Just watch, just watch, because they don't have the same
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: ways to steal signs or steal pitches. Just watch, just
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: watch the game.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I even think, you know, again, I
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: start looking at certain teams home road records whatever. I'm
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: not going to throw too much out there yet because
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I have my conspiracy theories too, But just pay attention
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: to everything going on when you're hearing pictures like this
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and other pictures we've had on recently, including Schoogle, point
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: things out.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: You heard it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: By the way, we found out Miles Michael his phone overheated.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: So yeah, if you're trying to make phone calls in
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: a sauna, or if you're in your car and it's
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: hot out and you turn it off and then you
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: put it on the dashboard to use as your camera
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: for a national television show, it might do that little
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: temperature dial and say, oops, sorry, you can't do what
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: you're doing. So Miles, you're the man. Thanks for joining us.