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The Gun Writer Breaks The Story Of The Feds Effort To Stop Gun Training · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  And here we go into our number two of the Morning Show with Preston Scott.
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  I'm Preston. That's Grant Allen and it's a delight to be with you
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  wherever however you find us and are listening to the program. Don't think for
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  one second we don't appreciate you and your time so very very much. Thank
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  you for honoring us with it. Please to be into the new year,
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  because we are back with our monthly visits with Lee Williams. He is known
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  as the gun Writer and the place to go to learn about things, and
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  we're about to talk about a very important one that you're not likely to hear
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  about any other place is his blog. It's the gun Writer dot substack dot
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  com, The gun Writer dot substack dot com, and Lee Williams is with
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  us. Good morning, sir, Happy New Year, Happy nearer to you.
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  Thanks for the invite, good to be back. Absolutely sadly as I
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  read as I read your latest piece yesterday, I squirmed a bit in my
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  chair. Preventing Private Paramilitary Activity Act of twenty twenty four. What in the
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  world. Yeah, when you read the title, you know, what does
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  that mean? Private paramilitary activity? But my god, man, when we
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  read it. When we read the bill and what it actually does, it
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  is insane. It basically is a way to paint the target on the back
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  of every law abiding gun owner in the country, and it's a way to
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  stamp out firearm training. It's crazy. It criminalizes publicly patrolling, drilling,
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  or engaging in these are the words. You got to pay attention to harmful
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  or deadly paramilitary techniques or training to engage in such behavior. So we post
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  a question, what are harmful or deadly paramilitary techniques? You know? Is
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  this CQB, is this movement on the range transitioning from my carving to my
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  pistol malfunction, drills, offense shooting, or just punching holes in paper.
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  The authors of this bill, Jamie Raskin from of course Maryland, he's leaving
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  that up to the federals and the prosecutors to determine what that is. So
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  basically it's whatever they want. And if you violate this bill first time,
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  you're looking at a year in jail. Repeat violators two years. If there's
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  anybody hurt, five years. If the death occurs, it's a life sentence.
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  They also, of course added a porfeiture clause, so they violate this
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  bill that can take all your guns in year. It's clear they're going after
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  training and they're trying they're trying to correlate, you know, the January sixth,
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  they use that to try and sell their bill, and they mentioned the
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  Oath Keepers and the Proud Voice. You know, first of all, militia
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  used to be a holy thing. Everybody when the Founders were there, every
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  able body man had to be a part of the militia. And now they've
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  read they're redefining that to make it something nefarious to go after training. And
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  it sucks because this could actually get through if they sell it correctly. Lee
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  Williams Withers Lee, this this smacks of assault weapon, the ambiguous term that
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  means anything or everything that they want it to mean. Yep, one hundred
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  percent. I mean and I trained regularly, and I'm fortunate to live in
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  the Free State of Florida where I can go to a range that treats me
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  like an adult, where I can drop them a holster, I can shoot
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  while moving. I can He's actually set up, of course as a player
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  there where you're shooting for moving vehicles, which is a great time. You
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  can shoot at night wearing nods, So basically I can train at my level.
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  I don't have to stand there and just punch holes and pay at a
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  flat range. All of this is going to be at risk if this goes
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  through, and you know Biden wants it, and you know Raskin is no
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  fool. I don't agree with his politics. He is a very smart character.
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  So I hope this this could easily clear the Senate. I hope it
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  doesn't clear the House. Well. I was just going to say, you
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  know, even in in in Florida, stupid bills are introduced. In HR
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  sixty nine eighty one is the bill we're talking about. It's a stupid bill.
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  It's a dangerous bill. Where what's the status? Is it even getting
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  a committee hearing? Not yet, but anything possible. What we wanted to
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  do is, you know, knowledge is power. We wanted to make sure
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  everybody knows that this is this is a huge blow to trainers and training and
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  what good are firearms if you're not training with them constantly? I mean,
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  the true intent is to is to stop training, especially tactical training. I
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  was on the radio yesterday with a good friend. He's delta veteran, I
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  said, Bob, they want to put you out of business, which is
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  what they want to do, so it scares them. Were the instructors in
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  this company. If this goes through, would be one over zealous prosecutor away
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  from being charged, as would anybody that would go to take one of their
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  courses. So we wanted everybody to know about this abomination. Twelve minutes past
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  the hour the gun writer dot substack dot com. You'll get this stuff to
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  your email box when you sign up. I don't miss an article. Lee
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  Williams our guest this morning. Lee, I asked you in an email,
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  if we go back to the year twenty twenty three, the year that just
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  was in all the things that you've had your eye on, and you've written
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  about what was most impactful, good or bad on the Second Amendment front,
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  I feel like I know where we might go, but I don't know.
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  So you tell me the most important story from last year is something I never
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  wrote humulively. Yeah, we wrote about them, but I never actually put
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  it all together, and obviously that's my fault. We experienced what I like
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  to call post bruin tantrum laws at a scale no one could imagine. We
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  had the beautiful Bruin decision in twenty twenty two from the Supreme Court said you
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  have a right to carrier to firearm outside of your home or self defense,
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  said if you want to litigate a second member of related law, you have
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  to find a corresponding law. From the hero of the Founder's great decision,
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  we had no idea how intense the backlash would be. We had lawmakers in
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  blue states and nationally sponsoring and introducing and getting signed into law laws that they
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  know don't pass the Bruin test that they know are unconstitutional. And the creativity.
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  No one had any idea. I mean, my god. In California
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  they tried to They put a separate bill into further criminalize thirty round and standard
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  capacity magazines by saying, if you have thirty rounds in an ar and akag
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  that violates their local laws on gunpower storage. I mean, that's pretty creative.
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  So we saw the absolute craziest crap from across the country. We had
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  no idea we would see it. We look forward after Bruinton doings, finally
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  doing some open field running being the Second Amendment Foundation that I worked for,
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  and you know, we're spending a lot of time on these unconstitutional bills.
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  I think at some point the judiciary at the federal level is going to be
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  a little angry and start slapping some of these down. These are frivolous lawsuits,
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  their frivolous laws that they're passing that they know damn well are unconstitutional.
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  Where does the attack on the f You've highlighted some stories in particular over others
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  because of just the egregious nature of what the federal government's doing to FFL hold
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  holders. It's ramping up. We thought that by bringing sunshine to the fact
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  that they're going after our gun dealers, our federal fire arm relcensese FFLs were
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  the most trivial clerical mistakes, that they would back off. They haven't.
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  They haven't. They're still going after them. We will see nearly a thousand
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  FFL reputations or forced surrenders last year when everything's added up. I will say
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  this, and that's coming straight from Biden and straight from Steve Dettelbock, the
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  ATFAD, I will say this, and I'm kind of proud about it.
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  Preston, my employer's second member foundation just sued Attorney General Garland and ATF director
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  Dettal Bock and FBI Director Ray trying to restore the civil rights of folks,
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  the Second Amendment rights a folk to use medicinal marijuana. All right, I'm
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  pretty proud of that. Fla on your phone with the iHeart Radio app and
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  on hundreds of devices like Alexa, Google Home, Xbox and Sonos, Yes,
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  and iHeart Radio station. Man gosh, I just found out in the
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  commercial break there that Lee Williams is a fellow Minnesoultan. I can break that
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  accent out in a in a heartbeat. That's so funny. Are we both
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  have spent a lot of years in the in the Land of ten Thousand Lakes?
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  All right? Lee, what are your thoughts on the on the importance
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  of the twenty twenty four race as it relates strictly to the Second Amendment.
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  It seems pretty vital to me. Yeah. I mean, if if Joe
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  gets back in, I should say, if Kamela gets back in because of
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  a vote for Joe's going to be a book for her. He's not going
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  to make it another four years. We are doomed in terms of our country,
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  and we are doomed in terms of our Second Amendment rights. I mean,
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  you have to realize we have never had a president administration as an anti
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  this one. I mean, they created an anti gun office in the White
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  House. In the White House and everything that we've talked about over the last
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  couple of years has been caused by the White House in terms of your Second
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  Amendment rights. This election is I hate to say it because it's so cliche,
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  it's the most important election in our lives because they will continue to infringe,
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  and you know they will. What do you expect this upcoming year?
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  Backing away from the presidential race, and we I think we all agree on
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  the importance of it from that perspective. You know, I looked at twenty
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  sixteen as it was vital from a Supreme Court perspective. Turns out that not
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  all those appointments have panned out for us. But let's talk about cases like
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  you've covered in the last year. What do you see coming this year?
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  We are going to finally get some definition on these so called assault weapon bands.
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  I think they're going to be the first to go, and that'll be
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  followed by standard capacity magazine bands. I think the Supreme Court is going to
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  rule that both of those are unconstitutional. That ar is the most popular rifle
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  in the country, and it comes with a thirty round standard capacity magazine.
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  Now I'm so sick of I hear from all these people in these Blue states
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  and the way they're treated just makes you crazy. You look at California and
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  look at what's California complying out there. You can't even recognize it as a
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  rifle. California maintains a list of pistols that they will allow you to purchase.
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  Okay, your Second Amendment rights should not depend on your zip code,
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  but that's the way it is right now. We not tolerate this with the
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  First Amendment or the Fourth Amendment or the Fifth Amendment. Everyone should have the
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  same rights, regardless of where they live. I think the Supreme Courts tried
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  to make that happened with the Brewin decision, but I think they're going to
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  have to define it even further this year. I'm curious, and I know
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  that legal scholars, we have them on the show lead. They have an
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  explanation, not an excuse, for why the Supreme Court doesn't just settle certain
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  issues more broadly. You know you just mentioned one. Why not just force
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  people to define what an assault weapon is? Because I'm convinced that if they
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  do that, they'll have to define a Ford f one fifty a panel Van
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  hond You know, you know what I'm saying. I mean, it's why
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  are we still fighting this fight over terminology? Well, I know the Supreme
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  Court, especially Thomas, wants to do the right thing. Yep. And
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  trust me, I was in the same boat as you and probably started working
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  for the Second Amendment Foundation, and I got a little better understanding from our
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  founder Alan Gottlieb. We've been around for fifty years right now. By the
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  way, they need a right case and they will reject cases if they're not
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  one hundred percent what Thomas wants to do the right thing. And when it
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  comes to judging what those guys and gals and the black robes we're going to
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  do, I'm a total amateur. But they can only they can only act
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  on the cases that are brought to them, and they're not going to risk
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  any kind of bad case law. As you said, we do have a
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  couple justices who would are willing to hop the fence if they so side.
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  So they need to exact right case. But I think we're going to see
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  it. There's a couple that are coming down the pike, we could have
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  a ruling and finally get rid of all this assault weapon crap. Where are
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  we on bump stocks? Where are we on on pistol braces? Pistol braces
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  A bump stocks will be legal. They're just making their way through various courts.
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  If you're a member of one of our pro gun organizations, the courts
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  have already enjoyed enforcement against you for bumps and braces. ATF is striking out
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  constantly in federal court regarding braces, regarding triggers, regarding you name it.
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  I think we're going to also see some definition, especially with the Chevron decision
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  coming down. That's not a gun decision, that has to do with fishing
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  and the rights of these regulatory agencies. I think Chevron will end up spanking
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  the heck out of ATF for all their overreach. You know, they want
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  to be judged jury and execution says, they want to write the laws,
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  they want to enforce the laws. Chevron will bring that to an end.
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  Lee, As always, I appreciate the time with you and keep doing what
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  you're doing, and we appreciate the work you're doing with the Second Amendment Foundation.
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  Thanks so much my pleasure to take care, all right, Lee Williams
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