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After, After the Final Rose · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with I R Radio. Welcome to the Girls, Tell all
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Speaker 1: the girls room, We're here, and it's it's after the
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Speaker 1: final It's after the final rose, after after the final rose.
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Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's after after the final rows.
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Speaker 1: And I am here with a group of Bachelor ladies.
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Speaker 1: I have to my left, all in pajamas and sweat
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Speaker 1: you know, sweatpants and slippers and you know, wine in hand. Dessert.
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Speaker 1: I got Amanda Stanton right there, Hey, say hey Amanda,
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Speaker 1: Hi guys. Then I got Angela, Hey guys, she flew
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Speaker 1: in just for this, just for this girl's party. And
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Speaker 1: then I'm so glad I came having so much fun.
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Speaker 1: Good thanks. Then I got Crystal, Hi, Hi, Tasa, Hello,
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Speaker 1: And Savannah's back for part two of the Bachelor finale
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Speaker 1: recaps on Almost Famous. So I'm going to go in order,
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Speaker 1: except for this one thing. I must start off the
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Speaker 1: bat with Madison Run Far Away, Run Run roung. I
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Speaker 1: am just slightly confused after watching this entire season, especially tonight.
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Speaker 1: Are her Peter dating Um or she like afraid of
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Speaker 1: his mom because I would be terrified. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't really feel like I don't really feel like
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Speaker 1: he was fighting for her the way I would want
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Speaker 1: someone to fight for me. After making all those mistakes,
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Speaker 1: he was like, well, it's going to be And I
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Speaker 1: kind of think she was expecting it because she spoke
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Speaker 1: first and I was expecting him to give more and
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Speaker 1: then he didn't. He didn't even see the date, although
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Speaker 1: he did defend her to his parents. I'm good. If
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Speaker 1: he didn't do that, then I'd be very concerned. But
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Speaker 1: the fact is he's like, we're in love. He did
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Speaker 1: say I'm in love with her. So weird because it
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Speaker 1: was almost like they were like, I'm in love, I'm
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Speaker 1: in love, but then when the word date came up,
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Speaker 1: they got scared. But I don't think she did. I
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Speaker 1: think dtie came out and she was like, I'm in
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Speaker 1: love with him, We're in love. She was so excited
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Speaker 1: and bubbly and like giddy, and it seemed like she
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Speaker 1: was expecting a proposal or like expecting the relationship to
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Speaker 1: be absolutely and when she tossed it to Peter and
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Speaker 1: what like, his remarks were like the challenges, Yes, this
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Speaker 1: is going to be an uphill battle, probably most the way,
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Speaker 1: and you see her just go are you like? She
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Speaker 1: threw up her hands, like are you serious? Like what
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Speaker 1: I thought we were like gonna published ourselves as a relationship.
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Speaker 1: And then we backtrack or flash forward thirty minutes later
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Speaker 1: after his mom jumps in and then he's defending her
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Speaker 1: and defending how much he loves her. But he didn
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Speaker 1: tell Madison that he loved her, not to her. He
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Speaker 1: said it to his mom. And then another thing I
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Speaker 1: noticed when he was breaking up with Hannah. Hannah asked
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Speaker 1: if it had to do with his feelings for Maddie.
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Speaker 1: He didn't say anything about Maddie during the breakup, and
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Speaker 1: he even said a little bit, but not fully mostly
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Speaker 1: like you know, he didn't really say that they're breaking
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Speaker 1: up because of Maddie. And then when Chris Harrison went
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Speaker 1: to talk to Maddie, he said it was because of Maddie.
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Speaker 1: But Peter never really said that we'll get there. M Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I want to clarify furthermore why I said, Maddie run
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Speaker 1: I need. I think that Maddy needs to run from
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Speaker 1: the entire Weber family because one Peter decided to propose
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Speaker 1: to another woman who he obviously wasn't as in love
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Speaker 1: with clearly, like we know this, he made that decision
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Speaker 1: to just end up with somebody when he had stronger
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Speaker 1: feelings for somebody else, and then this mom it's horrible.
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Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'm sorry, I don only even really
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Speaker 1: feel bad saying that. I think the first the first
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Speaker 1: half of this episode, I was like, I wonder how
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Speaker 1: much I'm going to rip on her during the podcast
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Speaker 1: because I feel weird speaking about an older woman like that,
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Speaker 1: a woman older than me. But like the second half
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Speaker 1: of the episode kind of proved to me that I
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Speaker 1: don't really have to feel bad because she doesn't feel
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Speaker 1: bad ripping on someone else. I think that's why maybe
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Speaker 1: I feel like that. That's how I feel because I've
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Speaker 1: always like Ben, like pro his parents because I thought
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Speaker 1: they were so nice and like, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, it's like Jekyll and Hide.
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Speaker 1: We see this other side, and I get it she's
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Speaker 1: defending her child, but at the same time, you don't
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Speaker 1: have to be like kind of flat out rude. Like
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Speaker 1: when she was talking to Maddie, I was like, did
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Speaker 1: she just say that? I know it was it was.
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Speaker 1: It was feisty, but like you have to sheer than Yeah,
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Speaker 1: she's just a ending Peter. She's defending herself to America
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Speaker 1: because yesterday was the like part one of the finale
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Speaker 1: where she was attacked. So you have to understand she's
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Speaker 1: probably operating out of her root chakra, her fight or
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Speaker 1: fly or freeze response, and so she's completely defending herself here,
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Speaker 1: and she she's just on the defense, the defense mode,
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Speaker 1: and I think being put in that position, I doubt
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Speaker 1: she even wanted to be sitting in the audience, and
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Speaker 1: I think she felt coerced into it. Also, I feel
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Speaker 1: like no matter what Maddie was going to say, she
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Speaker 1: was going to have a problem with it, because the
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Speaker 1: second Maddie opened her mouth, her eyes were rolling. Well,
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Speaker 1: what's interesting. As they said that, they go the dad,
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Speaker 1: what's the dad's named Kevin, Peter, Peter. The dad's name
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Speaker 1: is Heatherly Kevin, I don't know, like Kevin was Kevin.
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Speaker 1: Kevin was coming to Peter's dad is Peter, Papa Peter?
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Speaker 1: Okay Pete Um he was saying, he was like, um.
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Speaker 1: She train the thought what was he saying? He goes,
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Speaker 1: there's so much that you guys didn't see, and if
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Speaker 1: you would have seen what we saw you would have
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Speaker 1: a different opinion. So I'm as really curious as we
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Speaker 1: all know because you've all been on the show. You
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Speaker 1: can only there's like a six hours filmed and they
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Speaker 1: show twenty. Right, There's so much that you don't see
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Speaker 1: and then the viewers don't see, And there's so much
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Speaker 1: that happens through the editing process that can completely, you know,
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Speaker 1: manipulate a situation to create an outcome and emotion that
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Speaker 1: wasn't really there or really just accentuates it. So I
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Speaker 1: want to know, Papa Pete, what do you know? I
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Speaker 1: think we're missing something. Absolutely all said that the whole episode,
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Speaker 1: but then the second episode started, we were all like,
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Speaker 1: are we missing something? Thanks for bringing us back to
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Speaker 1: the beginning. Let's start with that heater facetimes Hannah Ann's
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Speaker 1: dad to ask for permission for her hand in marriage.
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Speaker 1: I walked into this apartment at eight oh three and
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Speaker 1: I see him on the phone with the dad, and
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Speaker 1: you guys go, yeah, he's asking for permission to marry Hannah,
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Speaker 1: and and I go, um, can be rewind what they
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Speaker 1: just re Wait? How are we already? I think that
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Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense because we needed to deal with
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Speaker 1: like him telling Hannah and that Madison left. We where
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Speaker 1: was Neia Lane? There was like a whole bunch of
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Speaker 1: doors that were missing, and just like even his decision making,
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Speaker 1: like why didn't we see like so many contemplation scenes
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Speaker 1: of Peter looking at the distance, being like trying to
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Speaker 1: ponder whether or not he was going to propose to
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Speaker 1: Hannah and or what whether he was going to go
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Speaker 1: fight for Maddie. Who knows? Crazy that we start out
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Speaker 1: like that shows that something's missing. Um, sorry for the proposal.
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Speaker 1: And then Chris shows up and he we see what
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Speaker 1: has been teased so much this season. Chris approaches the podium,
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Speaker 1: the proposal podium, the altar, and says, so, I just
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Speaker 1: gotta tell you this might darken the day a bit.
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Speaker 1: Hannah and may not show up. What do you guys
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Speaker 1: think was the point of saying that produced? I think
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Speaker 1: it was just to build hype, to be quite honest
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Speaker 1: with you, because she's in the car. No, it's because
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Speaker 1: they it's the last day. We're going to suck a
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Speaker 1: Peter even more than we sucked with him. Seriously, Like honestly,
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Speaker 1: it's like, what do you mean she may or may
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Speaker 1: not come? Of course she may or may not come.
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Speaker 1: Why would you pull him in the middle of this
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Speaker 1: like monumental moment for him that I'm sure it took
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Speaker 1: a lot of like guts encouraged for him to even
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Speaker 1: stand there, And I'm sure there was so much spinning
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Speaker 1: in his head to even just like mess with him
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Speaker 1: when he's so vulnerable. I just felt it's so symbolic
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Speaker 1: of exactly how the season has gone. I feel like
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Speaker 1: they should have waited until Hannah and made her decision
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Speaker 1: to be like, yes, I'm going to go. No, I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to go to even tell Peter like that
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Speaker 1: that was even a thing. It was almost like last
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Speaker 1: a Colton season we had the fence jump Hannah's season,
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Speaker 1: we had that whole confrontation tease the entire time, and
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Speaker 1: it was almost like, oh, we need that one moment
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Speaker 1: to just tease the entire time that will symbolize the ending.
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Speaker 1: Had a thousand and one moments of like uncertaintyam like
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Speaker 1: she's already like why did we need to like string
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Speaker 1: along even more? Like the guy looked like he was
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Speaker 1: about to pass out, literally could not go through anything more.
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Speaker 1: I really don't think so, like he had gone through
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Speaker 1: so much TURMOI already it was like pale. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: like Madison had left him, and then he's thinking Hannah
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Speaker 1: Ann has left him, and at that moment, I'm sure
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Speaker 1: like his whole world came crashing down, like I failed. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think he wanted so badly to just end up
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Speaker 1: with somebody that it didn't really matter who it was.
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Speaker 1: He just wanted this to be successful for him and
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Speaker 1: not be single at the end of it. Successful as
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Speaker 1: in like his heart is so filled, or successful as
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Speaker 1: in like he's a bachelor who chose a woman. I
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Speaker 1: think he just wanted to be a bachelor who chose
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Speaker 1: a woman. I mean, clearly he loves Maddie, but it's
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Speaker 1: just at the end of it, it seemed like that
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Speaker 1: if he was is going to just run to hand Anne.
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Speaker 1: So so then Chris comes and says she's coming, and
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Speaker 1: then she says hello, Chris Harrison, which was super awkward,
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Speaker 1: And then I think he's the only person that gets
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Speaker 1: like as by his whole name, like hi Chris Harrison,
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Speaker 1: Like it's not just Chris Chris Harrison. Chris on set.
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Speaker 1: So then Hannah and is of course emotional walking towards
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Speaker 1: the proposal. Peter starts his speech, we hear the heartbeats again,
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Speaker 1: and Peter starts to propose in the middle of the
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Speaker 1: proposal in something that sounds very edited, like, you know,
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Speaker 1: we gotta go back and watch it. But the sound
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Speaker 1: bite of him saying Maddie left two days ago sounded
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Speaker 1: like it was placed in the wrong spot. It was
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Speaker 1: maybe it was like a flint in the wrong spot,
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Speaker 1: because when they talked, she even said, you didn't bring
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Speaker 1: up that Maddie left until you were proposing to in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the proposal, And I was like, so,
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Speaker 1: you know, in another world, I didn't even know how
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Speaker 1: to and can we bring up how could a guy
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Speaker 1: bring up another girl during a proposal? Literally, no way
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Speaker 1: I would ever say yes to propose, Literally two sentences
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Speaker 1: of proposing, like, excuse me, what some of your second choice?
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Speaker 1: There's no way I would have And why are you
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Speaker 1: even thinking about another woman when you're about to ask
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Speaker 1: for my hand in marriage? So I think we all
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Speaker 1: said it was just like at that moment I would
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Speaker 1: have asked the context of that of her leaving. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So for you guys to know, here sitting as a
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Speaker 1: group of women, I go, do you would you guys
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Speaker 1: stop him right there after that comment and been like, okay,
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Speaker 1: well that was that her decision or your decision when
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Speaker 1: she left and we all said we would want But
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Speaker 1: here's the thing. I think she was just in shock
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Speaker 1: because I don't think she thought that he was going
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Speaker 1: to propose, So I think she was like, she was
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Speaker 1: just too in shocked to stop and ask any questions.
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Speaker 1: Her face said it all like whenever he said he
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Speaker 1: finally said that he loved her, she looked in shock.
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Speaker 1: And I felt sad for her that she was like
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Speaker 1: she because he just gave her nothing the whole time,
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Speaker 1: and the fact that she had no clue and just
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Speaker 1: felt that shocked but still said yes, I feel like
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Speaker 1: that says a lot. This morning, Savannah and I were
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Speaker 1: talking about how we were. We were speculating that she
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Speaker 1: was going to leave on her own because she felt
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Speaker 1: so second place. I mean, hence why they teased her
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Speaker 1: not showing up, because I think like those feelings were
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Speaker 1: obviously lingering towards the proposal. But the fact that, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just I would have I think
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Speaker 1: I would have stopped right then and there or whenever.
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Speaker 1: I mean, just the fact again that he said Madison's
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Speaker 1: name during the proposal, Like, again, that's like that moment
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Speaker 1: she was talking about this, He took that moment from
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Speaker 1: her that, you know, the engagement moment, and like, I
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Speaker 1: feel so sad for her, but you know what good
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Speaker 1: good for Hannah And because she handled that like a boss,
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Speaker 1: she said what she needed to say and it came
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Speaker 1: across in a good way. And she's strong. And I
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Speaker 1: think I speak for all of us as we said here,
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Speaker 1: like it's so empowering to tell a man like and
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Speaker 1: call him out and for him to be like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I did that and admit it, because a lot of
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Speaker 1: the times they don't so good. Do we think that
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Speaker 1: Peter didn't go to Hannah and because that would have
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Speaker 1: been proof to her that she was second place, and
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Speaker 1: then she would have left. So he was like, I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to tell her because she's going to probably
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Speaker 1: leave when she hears this. No, I I don't think
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Speaker 1: she was conflicted, like because his mom wanted him to
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Speaker 1: be with her so badly. Yeah, but you know that
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Speaker 1: he was going to have to tell her at some
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Speaker 1: point that Maddie left on her own, and then she
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Speaker 1: was going to start to thinking, well, here's the question
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Speaker 1: I just thought of. If Maddie wouldn't have eliminated herself,
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Speaker 1: we all thank you for sure you think so, I didn't.
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Speaker 1: Really are you being sarcastic, No, I'm being for real.
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Speaker 1: It's like, was he just tempted because she played hard
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Speaker 1: to get because the guys love the chase, and she
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Speaker 1: definitely proposed that element of it. She's there for me.
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Speaker 1: I want to say, I don't think he would have
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Speaker 1: chosen Maddie if if Maddie wouldn't have left, I think
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Speaker 1: he still I think you would have chosen Hannah And
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Speaker 1: being somebody that was in the house with all of it.
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Speaker 1: Like I every girl that was on our season would
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Speaker 1: tell you that their connection was just like when she
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Speaker 1: would walk in the room, it was like none of
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Speaker 1: us existed Maddie, so like we knew from that first
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Speaker 1: one on one that they had. We just knew, you know,
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Speaker 1: I mean, at least I did, I know, Sidney did.
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Speaker 1: We talked about that earlier today. I was going to say,
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Speaker 1: earlier on part one of this podcast, they said that
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Speaker 1: Hannah And was an obvious second to Maddie in the house. Really, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean I think that their relationship was just um
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Speaker 1: more I mean obviously more fun um you know, because
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Speaker 1: Hannah Anne was just really lighthearted and everything. And I
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Speaker 1: think Maddie was just really taking this seriously and like
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Speaker 1: she said, um, you know, she just felt like this
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Speaker 1: was her journey to this wasn't just Peter. So I
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Speaker 1: think she's right in saying that too, like both people
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Speaker 1: have to choose each other. So glad that she called
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Speaker 1: barbab out on that. It was truly like one two
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Speaker 1: sentences that summed up everything. It was the ultimate comeback
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Speaker 1: at her because Barba made this entire episode last night
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Speaker 1: and tonight about her, about Peter and like Peter's happiness
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Speaker 1: and somebody choosing Peter and not a two way street,
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Speaker 1: like she wanted her son to find somebody who worshiped
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Speaker 1: him that would take care of him. Yeah, Amanda, anything no,
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Speaker 1: I was going to say, you also have to think
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Speaker 1: to like coming from Maddie is when you're in a
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Speaker 1: situation where you know that he might not pick you
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Speaker 1: at the end, you're automatically like protecting yourself, so you're
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Speaker 1: kind of guarding yourself, which is probably why she wasn't
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Speaker 1: saying openly that she was super in love with him
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Speaker 1: because she's protecting herself. So I think that makes sense too.
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Speaker 1: And also they had known each other for what like
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Speaker 1: six weeks at the time, so yeah, yeah. After the proposal,
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Speaker 1: we see Peter go home and he walks in the door.
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Speaker 1: He's about to announce to his family who he got
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Speaker 1: engaged to. The family finds out it was Hannah Ann
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Speaker 1: and then Um Barbe says things like he's with his person,
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Speaker 1: he followed his heart and like that, she goes crazy.
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Speaker 1: She's like blubbering again, which you know, no no emotional
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Speaker 1: shaming here, but the woman is a little overboard. This
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Speaker 1: is coming from me, um. And then she goes and
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Speaker 1: they lived happily ever after, which is the ultimate ironic statement.
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Speaker 1: Anybody's happy right now, it's including the audience. So before
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Speaker 1: I tweeted, I tweeted, um, Jane Fonda has nothing on
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Speaker 1: barbed hashtag monster in law. And somebody responded to my
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Speaker 1: tweet with a d M that Barb sent them last night.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the tweet said after the break.
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Speaker 1: Before the break, I teased some teased that somebody had
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Speaker 1: tweeted me a d M from Peter's mom, and I
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Speaker 1: guess this person questioned why she just seemed to have
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Speaker 1: such a hatred towards Maddie for no really apparent reason
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Speaker 1: on Monday Nights episode, especially having that she met Maddie
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Speaker 1: earlier in the season and that's that date went swimmingly.
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Speaker 1: It seemed like they had a great bond. So this
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Speaker 1: is what Peter's mom said. Unfortunately, what wasn't shown was
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Speaker 1: how it all started. Madison had us wait for three
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Speaker 1: hours because she didn't want to come in to meet us,
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Speaker 1: which is interesting that she uses the word me us
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Speaker 1: because she already met that my son begged her to
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Speaker 1: do so once in she never offered an apology, to
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Speaker 1: which I wonder, Oh, she had to apologize for keeping
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Speaker 1: them waiting. So she goes, keep in mind, we traveled
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Speaker 1: across the world to meet both girls. Does this woman
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Speaker 1: not remember having met Madison and like had her be
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Speaker 1: there for their vow renewal and the reception. It was
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Speaker 1: like an extended period of time, not just a little
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Speaker 1: home popping anyway. Then she goes, when I asked her
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Speaker 1: if she loved my son, she said no and that
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Speaker 1: she would not accept the proposal from him in four days. Um.
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Speaker 1: Then I wondered to myself, what is she doing there?
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Speaker 1: Then my son Jack pointed out that Peter, in that
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Speaker 1: small amount of time that she was in there, was
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Speaker 1: all about herself and not about Peter. Trust me when
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Speaker 1: I say all that glitters is not gold? Thank you?
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Speaker 1: Um okay. So, so that basically reiterates what she said
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Speaker 1: on tonight's episode when Chris asked, why do you have
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Speaker 1: so much against this girl? And it is so petty?
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Speaker 1: Do you not think that this explanation is so petty
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Speaker 1: it seems really immature? Yeah? Well, also, do you really
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Speaker 1: think Mattie refused to come in? Sometimes it takes a
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Speaker 1: really long time for us to get up and wait.
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Speaker 1: You guys, if they tell you be ready for a
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Speaker 1: day in an hour, you know it's going to be
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Speaker 1: three hours. So I don't even know that. I believe
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Speaker 1: that she didn't want to come in. And even if
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Speaker 1: she didn't want to come in, we all know it
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Speaker 1: was because Maddie wasn't even sure like how she was
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Speaker 1: going to deal with the situation at hand, which was
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Speaker 1: him sleeping with the other women. When I also feel
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Speaker 1: like probably Maddie didn't want to use her very little
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Speaker 1: time that she had with a family to be like,
19:48
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'm so sorry that they made us
19:50
Speaker 1: wait three hours to come in here. Like she probably
19:52
Speaker 1: she probably wanted to use family and faith is really
19:55
Speaker 1: important to Maddie. So if she was going to go
19:58
Speaker 1: into again me Peter's family, knowing that Peter had betrayed
20:02
Speaker 1: her trust, why would she want to build that connection
20:06
Speaker 1: with his family. I certainly wouldn't if I didn't see
20:10
Speaker 1: it like a man. I was not in alignment with
20:12
Speaker 1: a man and his core values, and I felt disrespected.
20:15
Speaker 1: I would not want to go in and try to
20:17
Speaker 1: be fake with his family. I agree. I agree with you.
20:20
Speaker 1: Why would she? They had like a roadblock, right, so
20:24
Speaker 1: she was probably like, I don't think it's appropriate of
20:26
Speaker 1: me to be hanging out with your family right now.
20:28
Speaker 1: We gotta absolutely not. Yeah, I think Maddie is a
20:30
Speaker 1: real one. And I like applaud her for not going
20:33
Speaker 1: in there and being like over the top. And I'm
20:34
Speaker 1: not saying Hannah and was that's a totally different situation.
20:36
Speaker 1: But I applaud Maddie for like not going in there
20:39
Speaker 1: and being like, oh my gosh, everything's perfect. This is
20:42
Speaker 1: the moment that we're talking about. When she actually did
20:45
Speaker 1: meet his family, and Barb did ask her, and she
20:48
Speaker 1: brought up her faith in values right to that well,
20:52
Speaker 1: which we talked about this morning, and she knew what
20:54
Speaker 1: was going to happen. I didn't like the way that
20:57
Speaker 1: she made it seem like she gave her son an
21:00
Speaker 1: ultimatum and that it will be clarified this this morning.
21:04
Speaker 1: But basically Maddie was like, I didn't. I just told
21:06
Speaker 1: him how I would feel if he chose that path.
21:10
Speaker 1: Barb doesn't see this apparently. Yeah, I think the problem
21:15
Speaker 1: is like I don't even know if I want to
21:17
Speaker 1: get into it. Come on, get into it. Did y'all
21:19
Speaker 1: talk about this yesterday's episode? I'm sure, but I'm just saying,
21:24
Speaker 1: it's just like, why would you send you know this
21:26
Speaker 1: guy is sexually active. Okay, he had sex four times
21:30
Speaker 1: in a wind mail. Why would you go on a
21:31
Speaker 1: season if you're giving him an ultimatum such as that.
21:35
Speaker 1: It's just like, you know he's going to get engaged
21:38
Speaker 1: at the end of this. And I'm sorry, but that's
21:40
Speaker 1: kind of what fantasy seas there for not saying you
21:42
Speaker 1: have to have sex with everybody, not saying that at all,
21:44
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, like, you need to find your person.
21:46
Speaker 1: Not saying you need sex to find your person, but
21:48
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it is possibility. Okay. So the fact is, like,
21:52
Speaker 1: why is that not for this thing? If the guy
21:54
Speaker 1: was a virgin, that's one thing, but he's not. Okay,
21:57
Speaker 1: so famously very not. So why go on a season
22:01
Speaker 1: if that's a huge thing for you. I would have
22:03
Speaker 1: said that since day one. I guess I would have
22:05
Speaker 1: said team met her, right. She didn't want him to
22:10
Speaker 1: sleep with anyone else, But that's kind of an ultimatum, dude.
22:13
Speaker 1: Like it's like you can go to fantasy suits, but
22:15
Speaker 1: if you see anyone, like if you value relationship enough
22:18
Speaker 1: and then that's how I feel, then he wouldn't want
22:21
Speaker 1: to risk it. I mean, like because he knew that
22:22
Speaker 1: she was the one, and then he'd be like, okay, yeah,
22:24
Speaker 1: then I don't I don't have any interest in sleeping
22:26
Speaker 1: with the other girl exactly. But the thing is like
22:28
Speaker 1: he didn't, so like so I would just walk away then,
22:31
Speaker 1: well exactly, I think walked away at that point or
22:36
Speaker 1: she should have you know, let him have a chance,
22:39
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I wouldn't have been able to
22:41
Speaker 1: do what she did, And then how do you go
22:43
Speaker 1: back at the end of this episode and be like,
22:45
Speaker 1: let's work through it and nothing's going to change. He
22:48
Speaker 1: already slept with those people, Like what are you doing?
22:51
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but like it doesn't make any sense to me,
22:54
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't make sense. I appreciate you have you
22:57
Speaker 1: having this view, so saying Barb's frustration is trying to
23:00
Speaker 1: get at essentially. So then she says that when I
23:04
Speaker 1: asked her if she loved my son, she said no
23:06
Speaker 1: and would not accept a proposal within four days. I
23:10
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that's because that they were in the
23:13
Speaker 1: middle of the roadblock. Again. She didn't say I don't
23:15
Speaker 1: think she said no, I don't love your son. She
23:18
Speaker 1: she probably said have you told my son that you
23:21
Speaker 1: love him? And she was like, no, not yet because
23:25
Speaker 1: of this thing. And then um, she was like, in
23:28
Speaker 1: because of this thing, I probably am not ready to
23:31
Speaker 1: accept a proposal. But then we go and see that
23:33
Speaker 1: Maddie leaves after this, So then you think that Barb
23:37
Speaker 1: would be like, Okay, props, she knew she left, she
23:40
Speaker 1: wasn't ready right then, Why would she still hate her?
23:45
Speaker 1: Why she still hate HERR would have like a little
23:47
Speaker 1: more respect for Matt Yeah, you'd think that. Now after
23:50
Speaker 1: seeing that, she was like, oh, you know why because
23:53
Speaker 1: she knows that Hannah Ann and Pete broke up, and
23:56
Speaker 1: she knows that Maddie was the reason. And Maddie even
24:00
Speaker 1: showed up to surprise Peter when he thought he was
24:03
Speaker 1: meeting Chris. So Mom was filled in and here she
24:07
Speaker 1: is thinking like, oh, snap, is my son about to
24:11
Speaker 1: get engaged to Maddie tonight? Amanda even now, I love
24:20
Speaker 1: all these conspiracies. Okay, Well, she would talk about Hannah
24:25
Speaker 1: and now and the way that she did slay that breakup.
24:29
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never felt more connected to Hannah and
24:32
Speaker 1: than I did when she was breaking up with Peter.
24:34
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel her now, I get her.
24:37
Speaker 1: She's standing up. First off, She's like, showed so much
24:39
Speaker 1: strength and she did it. She was so she had
24:43
Speaker 1: a lot of heart when she was doing it too.
24:45
Speaker 1: She was like, I was here completely for you. I
24:49
Speaker 1: think I was going to go through the thickest shit.
24:53
Speaker 1: I think she was like sassy, but in a good,
24:55
Speaker 1: like healthy way, not like a bitchy way, you know
24:57
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think she came across very
25:00
Speaker 1: well read and honestly I feel like she's like an
25:04
Speaker 1: inspiration to probably women in America all over because guys
25:07
Speaker 1: are constantly telling us like I want this, this, this
25:10
Speaker 1: your perfect everything, and they just drag us along just
25:14
Speaker 1: enough until it's like too late. And I'm glad that
25:18
Speaker 1: she's stood up for herself because it's like it's got
25:21
Speaker 1: to stop at some point. So I feel like America
25:23
Speaker 1: is probably really relating to Hannah and right now I
25:26
Speaker 1: know I am. I'm too. I was really happy to
25:31
Speaker 1: see Hannah Ann really step up because I know throughout
25:34
Speaker 1: the season she's felt very youthful, and I definitely even questioned,
25:40
Speaker 1: you know, last night on part one of the finale,
25:43
Speaker 1: like is she ready to like be engaged, Like she
25:47
Speaker 1: just feels very young, And to see how she handled
25:50
Speaker 1: the situation and really stood her ground made me really commender.
25:55
Speaker 1: I agree with you at first. I feel like in
25:58
Speaker 1: that situation, like there's so much going on, it's very
26:00
Speaker 1: easy to not speak your mind entirely. And I think
26:05
Speaker 1: she hit every you know, bass thought that she needed
26:09
Speaker 1: to hit, and I would walk away from the situation
26:12
Speaker 1: being like I got off of my chest everything that
26:13
Speaker 1: I needed to say, and I feel really good about it.
26:16
Speaker 1: I've honestly applaud her for that entire scene because it
26:21
Speaker 1: was just well spoken and very articulated, very very much. Yeah,
26:25
Speaker 1: I was really proud to see that from her, Savannah,
26:29
Speaker 1: anything about your friend Hannah, And I mean I actually
26:32
Speaker 1: have never seen that side of her. Um. You know,
26:34
Speaker 1: she was always just like the bubbly girl. So to
26:36
Speaker 1: see her stand up for herself was really great because
26:40
Speaker 1: I mean she needed to in that moment, and um, yeah,
26:43
Speaker 1: I just was really proud of her. I think she
26:45
Speaker 1: feels probably and I don't know Hannah, but I feel
26:47
Speaker 1: like she probably thinks like she took a lot throughout
26:50
Speaker 1: the whole season, like she was always giving, giving, giving,
26:53
Speaker 1: and not getting anything in return. I think that was
26:55
Speaker 1: finally her moment to be like, you know what, like
26:57
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say my side now and i am
26:59
Speaker 1: going to have a backphone and I'm sick of it.
27:01
Speaker 1: And I think it was probably like the last straw
27:03
Speaker 1: and she just was like, you know what I've done.
27:07
Speaker 1: Let's go through some of Hannah Anne's best quotes of
27:09
Speaker 1: the night. She says to him, torn and conflicted, Peter,
27:13
Speaker 1: you took the most precious moment from me because you
27:16
Speaker 1: selfishly did not want me to walk away, and then
27:23
Speaker 1: she says that she can't look at him anymore. She
27:27
Speaker 1: needs a man that is true to his word. She says,
27:29
Speaker 1: I don't need anything more from you. You've done enough damage.
27:33
Speaker 1: She hands her ring back and says, and I mean that,
27:37
Speaker 1: and then she goes, you betrayed me. I need to
27:40
Speaker 1: get my life back on track now the way it
27:42
Speaker 1: was before. All this so good she came with it.
27:47
Speaker 1: I know, man, it makes me wish I was better
27:52
Speaker 1: at at moments like that breakup. I was like, I'm like,
27:57
Speaker 1: obviously I've never gonna I'm not gonna go through right up.
28:00
Speaker 1: But but but it's like the next fight I have with jaredman,
28:02
Speaker 1: if I could just talk to him like that, that
28:04
Speaker 1: would be fun a rebuttal. He was just like, I
28:09
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's what bothered me actually about
28:13
Speaker 1: this season is that I was so rooting for Peter.
28:16
Speaker 1: I was so excited when he was announced the Bachelor.
28:18
Speaker 1: But with every episode we've watched, he has said fewer
28:23
Speaker 1: and fewer words, and he will just sit there and
28:26
Speaker 1: let people talk to him without even like responding and
28:31
Speaker 1: even letting it register. It's like he is so afraid
28:34
Speaker 1: of his of what he's going to say and how
28:38
Speaker 1: his words can be used against him, that he just
28:39
Speaker 1: doesn't want to say anything. And you can just see
28:41
Speaker 1: him so in his head. And I know that because
28:44
Speaker 1: I think back to that like infamous moment I had
28:47
Speaker 1: with Bebiana when she Mike dropped me and I sat
28:51
Speaker 1: there because like what people don't know is that, you know,
28:53
Speaker 1: they told me, They're like, hey, are he's done, He's
28:55
Speaker 1: getting ready to he's finishing an interview. You want to
28:58
Speaker 1: go in for the just seem real quick? Before the
29:01
Speaker 1: roadstar many about the start. I was like, of course
29:03
Speaker 1: I do, and um I went in. He was sitting
29:06
Speaker 1: with Babyona talking and like I was lied to. And
29:10
Speaker 1: so when Babiona came out, I went up to her
29:13
Speaker 1: and I go, hey, are you okay, Like I just
29:14
Speaker 1: want you to know, like I didn't know you were
29:16
Speaker 1: with him, and she like freaked out on me, as
29:20
Speaker 1: we all saw, and I just sat there for rozen
29:24
Speaker 1: in fear, just like, oh my god, I know exactly
29:28
Speaker 1: how this is going to play out, and as it
29:31
Speaker 1: was happening, I was like trying to grasp the reality
29:35
Speaker 1: of the situation. So anyways, I saw that in Peter,
29:38
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to be like, part of my
29:41
Speaker 1: heart really goes out to him, you know, because I
29:44
Speaker 1: was in that situation. I want to be like, this
29:47
Speaker 1: is your story, don't let anyone write it for you.
29:51
Speaker 1: Stop being in your head, like feel with your heart
29:55
Speaker 1: and be present and like and make these decisions from
29:58
Speaker 1: a heartfelt place. So I think, looking back, I'm sure
30:02
Speaker 1: he has. I'm sure he has, like he said, made
30:06
Speaker 1: a million and one mistakes and has had an extremely
30:11
Speaker 1: experienced situation for him to grow from. Um. But I
30:16
Speaker 1: really feel for him. I really do it as a
30:18
Speaker 1: soft spot in my heart. You can tell that his
30:19
Speaker 1: family comes from a lot of love and a lot
30:22
Speaker 1: of emotion, and as much as that's a good thing,
30:24
Speaker 1: I think that in this situation, it was probably one
30:26
Speaker 1: of his biggest flaws because he was trying to please everybody,
30:30
Speaker 1: and honestly, that was exactly it. He was just trying
30:33
Speaker 1: to He was honestly just trying to make everybody else happy,
30:36
Speaker 1: all the girls, the family, the producers, not himself, every
30:39
Speaker 1: single person but himself, and not even doing this story
30:43
Speaker 1: for himself. This is not his journey. He was conflicted.
30:45
Speaker 1: You were every way because no matter what. Girls in
30:48
Speaker 1: front of him. He was like, I want to help you,
30:50
Speaker 1: like I want you to be it, like you're my
30:51
Speaker 1: person hero everyone exactly. So I feel like he kind
30:55
Speaker 1: of shot himself in the foot. How do we feel
30:57
Speaker 1: about bar but clapping for Hannah and and sort of
31:00
Speaker 1: abandoning her son in that moment during the live show. Wow,
31:04
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Peter. But at least she like,
31:09
Speaker 1: I don't know even as I mean, she's she's more
31:12
Speaker 1: team hand hand and she is her own son. I
31:14
Speaker 1: think that perhaps maybe she felt like she needed to
31:17
Speaker 1: choose a side and she'd already made a choice and
31:20
Speaker 1: wanted tip. Maybe it was like a choice driven from
31:23
Speaker 1: ego where she's like, hey, I could I stood by
31:26
Speaker 1: Hannah Ann and I'm going to follow through with that,
31:28
Speaker 1: And maybe part of her was like perhaps she should
31:30
Speaker 1: waive her a butt. There was some like pride in there. Yeah,
31:34
Speaker 1: but also Hannah Anne had great points, so like how
31:37
Speaker 1: could you not comment her? What? I mean, like she
31:39
Speaker 1: like shut that beep down, you know what I mean?
31:43
Speaker 1: I think everyone was clapping. Yeah, all right, we're gonna
31:47
Speaker 1: take a break, and when we get back, I want
31:48
Speaker 1: to talk about how this season finale was different than
31:52
Speaker 1: Ari or Jason Mesnis. Okay, so we have another bachelor
32:03
Speaker 1: who has now flip flop between their final two. First
32:07
Speaker 1: there was Jason Mesnick about eleven years ago, then there
32:10
Speaker 1: was already two years ago, and now here we have Peter.
32:13
Speaker 1: This season is a little bit different though, because in
32:15
Speaker 1: the other seasons, the lead the bachelor went after his
32:21
Speaker 1: runner up, and in this case, I guess Maddie wasn't
32:24
Speaker 1: technically his runner up, right, this was a girl that
32:27
Speaker 1: left him. It's also different because in this case the
32:31
Speaker 1: bachelor didn't go back for her. Chris Harrison went on
32:35
Speaker 1: on his behalf and then in the other cases they
32:39
Speaker 1: both ended up in marriage with the runner up. And
32:43
Speaker 1: in this case, it doesn't even seem like we can
32:45
Speaker 1: commit to a relationship date yeah, and we're not even
32:48
Speaker 1: committing to a date yeah, cofee, Like there is no
32:54
Speaker 1: mentioned going well, kind of left wondering, like after finishing
33:03
Speaker 1: the show tonight, I'm like, what even happened? What's going on?
33:06
Speaker 1: Like I feel like there wasn't like a concrete ending.
33:09
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like any closure, that's it? Like,
33:13
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel a little bit disappointed in
33:15
Speaker 1: the finale, just because I wanted more answers, and I
33:19
Speaker 1: feel and I mean, it's totally fine they don't have
33:21
Speaker 1: their stuff figured out. I would rather than you know,
33:23
Speaker 1: trek lightly than jump into something. But I'm still like, oh, okay,
33:29
Speaker 1: like what's not already that happened? Okay? Cool. I don't know,
33:35
Speaker 1: I feel weird, I guess, but I feel like I
33:37
Speaker 1: started getting a little like like she's personal, Like I
33:42
Speaker 1: didn't want to watch it anymore, Like it was just
33:44
Speaker 1: like y'all got to kill each other. Yeah, I don't
33:46
Speaker 1: want to call my husband out, but like he's been
33:48
Speaker 1: saying for the past couple of weeks, he's like, I
33:50
Speaker 1: think Peter is just like kind of a playboy, didn't
33:53
Speaker 1: really have the intention on settling down this early in life.
33:57
Speaker 1: And I think the past couple of weeks have really
33:59
Speaker 1: shown that that might be true, especially with his family
34:01
Speaker 1: talking about his lifestyle yesterday, don't. I don't know, So
34:06
Speaker 1: like part of me is feeling like maybe Peter just
34:09
Speaker 1: is like ready to be single again and like be
34:11
Speaker 1: done with this bachelor life. Who's with me? Peter is
34:18
Speaker 1: really over Hannah Brown? No, apparently not, because that needs
34:22
Speaker 1: to be addressed. Yeah, I don't. Hannah Ann infers that
34:28
Speaker 1: he reached out to Hannah by for closure in the
34:31
Speaker 1: midst of their engagement. Why is gonna be thinking he
34:35
Speaker 1: asked her to reach out. I think that's what she
34:38
Speaker 1: was saying. Why would he feel even asked reach out
34:43
Speaker 1: to Hannah Bee? But why is that necessary? You're in age,
34:47
Speaker 1: you don't need to be like you shouldn't need to
34:49
Speaker 1: do that. You do that before, Amanda. Why do you
34:54
Speaker 1: think that he's like maybe still wanting to be on
34:57
Speaker 1: that single track? I just think so far it seems
34:59
Speaker 1: like he kind of wants what he can't have, So
35:03
Speaker 1: he like was chasing Maddie because she left, and then
35:05
Speaker 1: when he found out Hannah might not show up to
35:07
Speaker 1: the road ceremony, then he proposes, and then as soon
35:10
Speaker 1: as he had Hannah, as soon as he has Maddie.
35:12
Speaker 1: I don't know. I felt like him and Maddie's body
35:15
Speaker 1: language and everything was just kind of off tonight. I
35:18
Speaker 1: couldn't really tell if he was still as into it
35:21
Speaker 1: as we thought he was. Interesting is the scene that
35:24
Speaker 1: we saw that was taped about a month ago out
35:26
Speaker 1: here in l A when Maddie surprises him by that pool.
35:29
Speaker 1: It seems like they're both genuinely into each other, very
35:32
Speaker 1: excited to see each other. We had that, we we
35:35
Speaker 1: sensed that closeness again really to me. Yeah, but then
35:38
Speaker 1: he saw that. Yeah, but he watched the same thing too.
35:44
Speaker 1: I saw Bashville too. Did he like sweet like he
35:51
Speaker 1: couldn't like he couldn't like their foreheads were touched and
35:54
Speaker 1: while they were talking like and what they were saying
35:57
Speaker 1: was intimate. I agree with you there, but he would
36:00
Speaker 1: he could not look her in the eyes, Maddie, if
36:02
Speaker 1: you would like watch it back. Maddie kept looking up
36:05
Speaker 1: at Peter like while he was talking. While they were talking,
36:07
Speaker 1: he never looked back. I started, I'm sure he's embarrassed.
36:15
Speaker 1: I have Yeah, I have to go back to what
36:16
Speaker 1: Nanda said, because amandamate an amazing point. She goes he
36:19
Speaker 1: wants and he doesn't have. And I want to add
36:22
Speaker 1: onemart point because we saw it tonight with a finale,
36:24
Speaker 1: because Maddie came out and she goes, I love Peter,
36:26
Speaker 1: I want to be with Peter. His response, probably not
36:30
Speaker 1: gonna work out, and then his mom, you know what,
36:34
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison, he goes, do you love Maddie? And then
36:36
Speaker 1: he goes yeah, like pause, and then he say yeah,
36:45
Speaker 1: and then mom barbed jumps in and tears Maddie down,
36:53
Speaker 1: and then Peter defends Maddie and says he loves her.
36:56
Speaker 1: I'm just like what Chris Can asked Peter to interfere?
37:02
Speaker 1: Wasn't he like, Peter don't have something to say? Peter
37:04
Speaker 1: didn't just go ahead and say it on his own, right, Yeah,
37:08
Speaker 1: so it was like he had to be asked, which
37:10
Speaker 1: would kind of bother me. But I mean maybe it
37:13
Speaker 1: was like that tonight because his parents were there watching
37:15
Speaker 1: and he was trying not to be into Maddie because
37:18
Speaker 1: of his parents. But still, like Peter's in an awkward
37:21
Speaker 1: spot no matter what. But I feel like everybody is
37:23
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't want to be anybody I don't want to.
37:25
Speaker 1: I mean, Peter and hero asked man. Despite his actions,
37:29
Speaker 1: he is a grown ask man and he put himself
37:31
Speaker 1: in this position. And you know what, overbearing mom or not,
37:35
Speaker 1: it's up to him to say, Mom, here my boundaries
37:38
Speaker 1: and I need you to respect them, and it's his
37:40
Speaker 1: job to uphold those boundaries. But I do think he
37:43
Speaker 1: kind of defended himself to his mom. He did, he did,
37:48
Speaker 1: he said, I need you guys to listen to me.
37:50
Speaker 1: He said that, And I think it's because he probably
37:53
Speaker 1: watched he was there last night and she got you
37:56
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it was just a
37:57
Speaker 1: bad episode last night. I think he's just so torn
38:00
Speaker 1: in between, like wanting to defend his mom because obviously
38:02
Speaker 1: he loves his mom, but he's like, come on, she's
38:05
Speaker 1: like kind of being unreasonable. So, speaking of the mom
38:08
Speaker 1: being unreasonable, we talked earl. We yeah, we talked earlier
38:13
Speaker 1: about the fact that, um, you know, Madison says, you know,
38:16
Speaker 1: this is a relationship is a two way street. This
38:18
Speaker 1: is my journey as well as his journey. I signed
38:20
Speaker 1: up for this for love, and he signed up for
38:22
Speaker 1: this for love. And then the mom responds, and this
38:26
Speaker 1: is what we haven't discussed yet. She says, this crazy shit.
38:31
Speaker 1: She goes, She goes, He's just going to have to
38:35
Speaker 1: fail to succeed and all his family and friends and
38:39
Speaker 1: know that this will not last. And you guys, how
38:44
Speaker 1: embarrassed is Mr Peter right now? He had his head
38:48
Speaker 1: down the whole time. This is going to cause marital problems.
38:51
Speaker 1: He's gonna want to look at his wife for like
38:53
Speaker 1: weeks because she's like embarrassing herself. I think there's like
38:57
Speaker 1: a place opinion. I totally get that as as like
39:01
Speaker 1: as parents voice your opinion and your concern, but after
39:04
Speaker 1: your child is like, listen, I've got this, this is
39:06
Speaker 1: how I'm feeling. Then back down. You don't have to
39:08
Speaker 1: sit there and tear down Maddie that. When when she
39:12
Speaker 1: said that, I was like my mouth dropped. I was like,
39:15
Speaker 1: did she just really say that? No way is it
39:17
Speaker 1: okay to rip people down? And for her to sit
39:21
Speaker 1: there on stage at the finale online television and speak
39:28
Speaker 1: to Maddie that way, you know, I'm just like, what
39:31
Speaker 1: did Maddie do? Maddie has only come across as a
39:35
Speaker 1: very kind, respectable woman, Savannah, you have anything else to
39:38
Speaker 1: say about I think she's just threatened by her I
39:42
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't know how the old tomatum like
39:46
Speaker 1: like this is stemming around the whole ultimatum thing, right,
39:49
Speaker 1: Like what else did Maddie do nothing? So like for
39:51
Speaker 1: her to have like so much animosity towards her, it
39:54
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense. It's like there's That's why I
39:57
Speaker 1: feel like there's something missing. It's that you know, Annie
40:00
Speaker 1: doesn't party doesn't dream, doesn't have sex. Peter does all
40:03
Speaker 1: those things, and his parents no obviously, And I think
40:09
Speaker 1: her mom was just like, I don't want a woman
40:11
Speaker 1: to come in and change my man, like right, I
40:13
Speaker 1: think I'm sure I was talking. I was with Rachel
40:15
Speaker 1: Lindsay yesterday and she was talking. She's like, Barb is
40:17
Speaker 1: my mother in law. Like I get, it's like the
40:20
Speaker 1: Latina mother in law. It's very overbearing, very strong, and
40:23
Speaker 1: they feel very threatened by the women coming into technically
40:27
Speaker 1: take over her role within Peter's life. I was going
40:32
Speaker 1: to say, it seems very monster in law, where it
40:34
Speaker 1: is like some weird thing of like almost jealousy, like
40:40
Speaker 1: there's a very territory. And I think that she actually
40:43
Speaker 1: saw that Maddie had that power because she goes, if
40:47
Speaker 1: Peter will change, he'll leave me. Oh she did say that.
40:50
Speaker 1: I mean she didn't say it pretty yeah, right, I
40:56
Speaker 1: mean does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, That's kind of
40:59
Speaker 1: why I felt like Hannah and would just be like
41:02
Speaker 1: go along with that addition easing. Yeah. I think like
41:06
Speaker 1: Maddie wants to start her own thing outside of that,
41:09
Speaker 1: and I think Hannah and well, maybe this is just
41:12
Speaker 1: how his mom perceived it, but like maybe she just thought, okay,
41:15
Speaker 1: like Hannah and she'll just like fall in and you know,
41:18
Speaker 1: maybe we'll all live together in the house. And like
41:21
Speaker 1: she really go by Hannah and or did she just
41:23
Speaker 1: goes by Handah because she has handed from Alabama just
41:27
Speaker 1: like the other handed from Alabama. She's Kinnese. But yeah,
41:30
Speaker 1: I think she just didn't want to be another Hannah
41:33
Speaker 1: that Hannah and is maybe an add on um. The
41:36
Speaker 1: last thing that I wanted to add there is I
41:39
Speaker 1: called my sister really quickly after the finale and I'm
41:43
Speaker 1: just like, can you believe Barba? Like I can't believe this?
41:45
Speaker 1: And then she goes. I think she might be the
41:47
Speaker 1: most villainous villain we've ever seen on the show. There's
41:50
Speaker 1: our villain villain has no idea like how it all works,
41:58
Speaker 1: like they were showing her constantly to do some really
42:01
Speaker 1: bad Apparently I'm crossing the line? Am I crossing the line?
42:05
Speaker 1: I feel I just have no idea. Getting ready to
42:09
Speaker 1: say I think Barb has no idea because like I
42:11
Speaker 1: don't think she realizes like how like the producers work
42:14
Speaker 1: and like that the cameras are on her at all times,
42:17
Speaker 1: Like I don't agree. I think most people who aren't
42:20
Speaker 1: on the show, which Barb technically wasn't realized, like you're
42:24
Speaker 1: you're being watched like no matter where you are. So
42:27
Speaker 1: I feel like she probably isn't realizing, like everyone's watching
42:32
Speaker 1: her like a hawk now and she's just getting like
42:34
Speaker 1: brutalized for it. But also like after last night, I
42:37
Speaker 1: can't I can't speak for her tonight because after last night,
42:39
Speaker 1: like I feel like she got a taste of it.
42:40
Speaker 1: You should have a little bit. I don't say this.
42:44
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a mom or a family member
42:48
Speaker 1: that has been brought in that has been completely either
42:53
Speaker 1: I feel like a family member hasn't had really that
42:59
Speaker 1: has been we just don't know it, Like Barb doesn't
43:01
Speaker 1: know that there's a little square of her face like
43:06
Speaker 1: she didn't know. Like I feel like they did barbed dirty. Yeah,
43:11
Speaker 1: but you know that she talked to a producer earlier
43:13
Speaker 1: and they prepped her just the way they wouldn't normally.
43:16
Speaker 1: There's no way I would react like that, So they
43:22
Speaker 1: probably didn't. You think they did. I don't think that did.
43:24
Speaker 1: And she went along. Isn't that the best game? That's
43:29
Speaker 1: the best I know who said that? Yeah, her Rild
43:36
Speaker 1: literally something was actually said tonight and I was like,
43:39
Speaker 1: that sounds like some in someone. I know there's certain lines,
43:42
Speaker 1: especially the corny ones. That person didn't come up with it,
43:46
Speaker 1: And so all right, well, is there anything that you
43:50
Speaker 1: guys can think that we didn't cover that was gigantic?
43:55
Speaker 1: I just still feel like there's a puzzle piece missing.
43:58
Speaker 1: I com completely agree. I feel like there's to be
44:00
Speaker 1: a bonus episode. Yeah, there's so much missing. There was
44:05
Speaker 1: just so many holes, so many holes. Is that because
44:10
Speaker 1: we didn't get a three hour finale or is that
44:14
Speaker 1: making us was that intentional to make us feel like
44:17
Speaker 1: a sense of emptiness in the end of all that?
44:19
Speaker 1: It just feels very unfulfilling. And it's surprising because I
44:25
Speaker 1: know that The Bachelor really is about finding love and stories,
44:28
Speaker 1: and I mean, this ending was just I mean, what's
44:32
Speaker 1: sad is that this is kind of how a lot
44:35
Speaker 1: of relationships go. Yeah, and they didn't fantasize it. They
44:41
Speaker 1: just showed a very raw, real truth. And I think
44:47
Speaker 1: a lot of us just have this expectation of what
44:50
Speaker 1: we want a fairy tale to be, but the reality
44:52
Speaker 1: is that fairy tales don't exist. And I think we
44:55
Speaker 1: saw that tonight. This is the third season now the
45:00
Speaker 1: we're not getting a traditional ending. Yeah, I just didn't
45:03
Speaker 1: feel the fields this season. You know. I feel like
45:06
Speaker 1: it was hard to connect with a lot of the girls,
45:09
Speaker 1: and then with the finale, I wasn't. I was just like, Okay, Savannah,
45:14
Speaker 1: how do you feel about the flag that your season
45:16
Speaker 1: has been getting. I'm not gonna lie, it's kind of
45:20
Speaker 1: embarrassing just because, like you know, I'm lumped into that
45:25
Speaker 1: even though I wasn't that kind of person on the show,
45:28
Speaker 1: so you know, and then I do get frustrated. Like
45:31
Speaker 1: looking back, like I said earlier today, it's like it
45:33
Speaker 1: is frustrating to know that like he did give in
45:36
Speaker 1: to all of this. Um, I don't know. I just
45:39
Speaker 1: didn't feel like he was easily swayed by other people,
45:43
Speaker 1: and you know, he was manipulated and I don't know,
45:47
Speaker 1: it just it all just is really frustrating to watch,
45:51
Speaker 1: do you think. And I'm sad. I wanted, you know,
45:53
Speaker 1: I really wanted him to end up with Maddie just because,
45:56
Speaker 1: like I said, like that love was like undeniable, but
46:00
Speaker 1: then we just saw it just doesn't it didn't feel
46:02
Speaker 1: like that love was there anymore, And so it's just
46:04
Speaker 1: kind of like you're just saw sad. You just want
46:06
Speaker 1: the happy ending to the you know, maybe Peter was
46:10
Speaker 1: just so defeated that he had no love to give.
46:15
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, but he was so hopeful in the beginning.
46:17
Speaker 1: There's no way. I just feel like there's has a
46:20
Speaker 1: lot to do with it. But that was the beginning.
46:22
Speaker 1: With September, it's March been through a lot. I mean,
46:25
Speaker 1: imagine Hannah be coming in the beginning months. I think
46:30
Speaker 1: I said this is somebody yesterday. I honestly and I
46:33
Speaker 1: have no idea, but this is just an inference. I'm wondering.
46:36
Speaker 1: I feel like ever since Hannah By showed up in
46:39
Speaker 1: the season, he has been different. Like I'm wondering if
46:43
Speaker 1: she never showed up or they brought her on or
46:45
Speaker 1: however that happened. Can I just say, I feel like
46:47
Speaker 1: it maybe it would have gone a little differently there
46:50
Speaker 1: on that So on night one even it was like
46:55
Speaker 1: shifted and it was like so like right when I
46:58
Speaker 1: got out of the limo, um, you know, I did
47:01
Speaker 1: like the whole blindfold and made out with him, and
47:03
Speaker 1: he was even like I kind of pulled back and
47:05
Speaker 1: he just like went in even harder, and yes I was,
47:10
Speaker 1: but yeah, anyways, um, yeah, so he was great like
47:14
Speaker 1: in that moment and like you could just you know,
47:16
Speaker 1: you could just see it in someone's eyes, like they're excited.
47:18
Speaker 1: And and then the second time I talked to him,
47:21
Speaker 1: it was right after he had talked to Hannaby, and
47:23
Speaker 1: it was like the life was like sucked out of him,
47:25
Speaker 1: like he just yeah, it was like he was smiling,
47:28
Speaker 1: but like his eyes weren't smiling, like he just wasn't there.
47:31
Speaker 1: Like it was just like his mind was with Hannaby,
47:33
Speaker 1: Like he kind of got choked up when he came
47:35
Speaker 1: to talk to us, and it was just I don't know,
47:37
Speaker 1: I did feel like he wasn't over her. And then
47:41
Speaker 1: when we saw her again on our second or on
47:43
Speaker 1: our first group date, I was just like, this guy
47:46
Speaker 1: is not over her. And I think he really tried,
47:49
Speaker 1: but ultimately he just didn't find the person that was
47:52
Speaker 1: better for him than Hannaby. I also have to say,
47:55
Speaker 1: you guys have to realize how much the bachelor slash
47:59
Speaker 1: Bachelor goes through every single day, like you really don't
48:02
Speaker 1: have time to process things. And when he said at
48:05
Speaker 1: the end of episode he's like I had two days
48:07
Speaker 1: to process what just happened with Madison, And like, sure,
48:09
Speaker 1: you have two days and you could have talked to her,
48:11
Speaker 1: but like you just realize, like that person that you
48:14
Speaker 1: were in love with just like left, and like you're
48:17
Speaker 1: supposed to just jump into another one kind of thing.
48:19
Speaker 1: You to get what I'm trying to say, It's just
48:21
Speaker 1: it's just a lot for someone to go through, especially
48:23
Speaker 1: in and the two days weren't Peter's situation because Hannah
48:27
Speaker 1: didn't end up with anyone, so I think he still
48:29
Speaker 1: had that lingering hope that could end up together. And
48:32
Speaker 1: the two days were in black days, they were feel
48:35
Speaker 1: still coming at interviews he had he had his final
48:40
Speaker 1: day with Hannah, and two in those two days because
48:42
Speaker 1: I think can Anne's date was after. So it's just constantly, Yes,
48:46
Speaker 1: you sign up for that as a bachelor, and I
48:48
Speaker 1: understand that, but it's like you have ten minutes to
48:51
Speaker 1: make a decision and emotionally stick with it. So like
48:54
Speaker 1: I feel bad for him, Like you know, so I
48:57
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be any It's just a lot. What's
49:01
Speaker 1: crazy is that I Peter was the golden child. I
49:08
Speaker 1: mean they wanted him to be Ben Higgins two points.
49:11
Speaker 1: That's what I kept saying, and he became Yeah. I
49:16
Speaker 1: just hope that Peter has a support unit to really
49:21
Speaker 1: help him over the next couple of months, that he's
49:26
Speaker 1: not going to fall into party or bad old habits
49:31
Speaker 1: and really has like a healthy support unit to um,
49:34
Speaker 1: you know, like rebuild himself and find himself. And I
49:36
Speaker 1: think we all we've all been through this process. We've
49:39
Speaker 1: all gone through the show. We've all had moments that
49:41
Speaker 1: we wish we could take back or change or be better.
49:44
Speaker 1: And I'm sure right now he's just running those all
49:46
Speaker 1: through his head, like God, if only I could have
49:49
Speaker 1: changed out one thing, the one thing that would have
49:52
Speaker 1: been him not sleeping with together too, could you imagine
49:55
Speaker 1: what the season could have ended like? So much further
49:58
Speaker 1: than that, I think so absolute, reolutely. I think it
50:01
Speaker 1: goes back with him feeling strong in his own two
50:05
Speaker 1: feet and feeling completely confident in his own decision making abilities.
50:12
Speaker 1: I think when people yeah, no, I think that I
50:15
Speaker 1: think he doubted himself and maybe doubted his ability. He
50:18
Speaker 1: was ripped from you know, Barb's breast to be the Bachelor,
50:28
Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, he's like Mommy, No, I
50:33
Speaker 1: didn't say that. I like joke, but but really I
50:37
Speaker 1: think that he maybe didn't know, um really what he wanted,
50:41
Speaker 1: and maybe he wasn't in a position to make that decision.
50:44
Speaker 1: I think people forget that, Like we were saying, like
50:47
Speaker 1: we've all been through the show, so we get this,
50:49
Speaker 1: And that's why I think people forget viewing at home
50:51
Speaker 1: that like, everybody makes mistakes. Ours are just filmed for
50:55
Speaker 1: America to judge. So like when people I like, I
50:58
Speaker 1: don't want people to be harsh on Barber, I mean ours,
51:03
Speaker 1: but they're healthy, vis But like, I just think I
51:06
Speaker 1: think it's it's people forget. You know, they were talking
51:08
Speaker 1: about online bullying lass you know, during Women Tell All.
51:11
Speaker 1: But like everyone makes mistakes and Peter has even said
51:14
Speaker 1: he's made a hundred mistakes during the season, but like
51:16
Speaker 1: a million in one. Yeah, but ours are just filmed. Yeah,
51:20
Speaker 1: and we all have a lot of sympathy for going. Yeah,
51:23
Speaker 1: I know. I can't even imagine what their social media
51:26
Speaker 1: looks like. Oh no, I don't even wanting It's not fair.
51:29
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I can't even imagine. I hope
51:31
Speaker 1: they're not reading it. They really should, like go on
51:34
Speaker 1: a foreign vacation the whole family for a while. Corona,
51:38
Speaker 1: Well they're stuck here. Oh my gosh, away Hanada. Does
51:45
Speaker 1: this mean that barbs going? Do we think it's weird
51:49
Speaker 1: that they didn't give Peter and Maddie um a little
51:53
Speaker 1: happy couple date after they reconnected. I thought that was
51:57
Speaker 1: very strange. They may have way to sidency know that
52:00
Speaker 1: it was the first time that they each other, if
52:03
Speaker 1: you really wanted to. I just don't know. It wasn't.
52:07
Speaker 1: I was just Amanda speaking, I said. I think that
52:12
Speaker 1: that was kind of weird to me too, that they
52:13
Speaker 1: hadn't seen each other since that day, because they probably couldn't.
52:17
Speaker 1: I just don't know if Peter knows. My only thing
52:21
Speaker 1: is that maybe they wanted it to be so awkward.
52:24
Speaker 1: They wanted the after the final rose to feel like
52:27
Speaker 1: it did, and they knew that if they were to
52:29
Speaker 1: get a weekend together that they probably would be bonded
52:32
Speaker 1: enough in order to be like, yeah, we're in a relationship.
52:36
Speaker 1: Or were they really just afraid that they'd be exposed
52:41
Speaker 1: because they tried so much to control the leaking, the
52:45
Speaker 1: mole of the Bachelor and the spoilers coming out, So
52:50
Speaker 1: maybe there was that element too. We gotta take one
52:53
Speaker 1: last break. When we come back, I'm going to get
52:54
Speaker 1: an update on these girls lives. Stay tuned. All right,
53:05
Speaker 1: let's go down the row. Angela, what's the status with
53:09
Speaker 1: your love life? Um? I am single, and you know,
53:15
Speaker 1: I'm going on dates and talking to people and having fun.
53:18
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing concrete. Still haven't found a guy I think
53:22
Speaker 1: I wanna stick with for a minute. But I'm still
53:25
Speaker 1: super hopeful and as always, you guys know, I'm the
53:27
Speaker 1: hopeless romantic and uh yeah, but I'm still single and
53:31
Speaker 1: just working on my YouTube and traveling and just doing
53:34
Speaker 1: all the things. So I'm just having some like me
53:36
Speaker 1: time right now, and honestly, and it's great, Amanda. Your
53:39
Speaker 1: sister just moved to l A and you've been spending
53:42
Speaker 1: more time out here, right. Yeah, So we got a
53:44
Speaker 1: place together up here. It's so nice. So when you're
53:47
Speaker 1: not with the girls, you hang up here. Yeah. And
53:50
Speaker 1: then when I'm working up here, I have a place
53:52
Speaker 1: up here, and then I still have my place in
53:53
Speaker 1: Orange County too, so the girls will come up here
53:55
Speaker 1: and stay with me sometimes too. Nice And yeah, it's
53:58
Speaker 1: been good. Do you have another life up dates? Gross? Um?
54:02
Speaker 1: Nothing really. So my clothing line just launched at Bloomingdales,
54:06
Speaker 1: which is exciting. Not really, I have clothes up Bloomingdales.
54:13
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Lonnie the label love from Me. I love
54:18
Speaker 1: your stuff. It's so cute. Thank you. So that's exciting,
54:23
Speaker 1: But nothing really other than that. That's really incredible. That's
54:26
Speaker 1: pretty big news. Um. Okay, So Crystal, Um, what's the
54:31
Speaker 1: status with you and Chris? Now? Are you guys like
54:34
Speaker 1: speaking on a regular basis? Um? Anything you're open to sharing? Yeah? No,
54:39
Speaker 1: thank you for asking. Chris and I are, you know,
54:44
Speaker 1: still best friends that really love each other and we
54:46
Speaker 1: talk every single day and the last I think it's
54:50
Speaker 1: been about a month since we separated. It's interesting because
54:54
Speaker 1: I was telling Angela, I just felt such a happiness
54:57
Speaker 1: and sadness, and guy slept on his side of the
55:01
Speaker 1: bed every night. And we had a really huge breakthrough
55:06
Speaker 1: about a week ago where we realized there was just
55:09
Speaker 1: so much um projection that was going on with each
55:14
Speaker 1: other and where we really had to just take this
55:18
Speaker 1: time to understand and work through things within ourselves before
55:24
Speaker 1: we could really show up for one another in a relationship.
55:27
Speaker 1: And so we've decided that we are going to be,
55:30
Speaker 1: you know, living apart but kind of coming back together
55:37
Speaker 1: in a way that's almost like dating again, conscious recoupling. Yeah,
55:43
Speaker 1: something like that. And out of the media because I
55:46
Speaker 1: think there was just so many, so much opinions about
55:48
Speaker 1: our relationship, and I think that was really difficult to
55:51
Speaker 1: have so much, so many people saying so many things
55:54
Speaker 1: about opinion eating the relationship. So we just had to
55:59
Speaker 1: peel it back and that we're in a really good place.
56:03
Speaker 1: That's great. I'm really really happy to hear that. Thank you.
56:06
Speaker 1: How how the dog has been, Oh my god, they
56:09
Speaker 1: think they be Mommy's little voice. And Tasia, I feel
56:16
Speaker 1: like the most recent rumored thing about your life is
56:21
Speaker 1: that you were in the running to be the Bachelorette.
56:23
Speaker 1: I feel like you were like one of the top
56:25
Speaker 1: three girls in the running. Yeah, and um, anything you'd
56:28
Speaker 1: like to share about that, UM, Aside from the fact
56:32
Speaker 1: I'm actually really happy it's Claire, I feel like, um, honestly,
56:37
Speaker 1: we both probably have like the same the same objective. UM.
56:42
Speaker 1: In my interviews of talking about possibly being the Bachelor,
56:44
Speaker 1: I've always said, like, I really want to bring it
56:46
Speaker 1: back to what bachelor was originally to me and that
56:50
Speaker 1: was what it was a couple of years ago, and
56:52
Speaker 1: really just finding love and like getting away from this
56:54
Speaker 1: stupid drama and social media crap. And um, I love
57:00
Speaker 1: is such a beautiful thing and I feel like you
57:03
Speaker 1: can really find your person if you really take it seriously.
57:05
Speaker 1: And I'm actually really excited for Claire. I think she
57:08
Speaker 1: is not gonna take any bullshit, which I'm excited for.
57:10
Speaker 1: She's gonna have older men, which that's exciting because that
57:13
Speaker 1: means they're going to be added to our pool people
57:16
Speaker 1: like no offense. Like I tried the younger thing, but
57:20
Speaker 1: like the older thing might be cool too. But UM,
57:24
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just really really excited for her. Okay,
57:27
Speaker 1: that's so nice. That's really nice. I genuinely feel like
57:30
Speaker 1: you feel that. No, definitely, it's not. I'm not just
57:33
Speaker 1: saying that just to say that. Were you a fan
57:35
Speaker 1: back in the day. Um, to be honest, Claire is
57:38
Speaker 1: new to me. Really. Yes, So I started ben season, Um,
57:42
Speaker 1: but my girlfriends had watched it every single monay. Say
57:45
Speaker 1: I've heard them for years talk about Bachelor and all
57:48
Speaker 1: this stuff, and um, when I did kind of binge
57:51
Speaker 1: watch it, I was like, this is actually really cool,
57:53
Speaker 1: and I feel like Benez really in it. Jojo found
57:55
Speaker 1: her true love in it, you know, I mean like
57:57
Speaker 1: it was just like a really good, I don't know streak. Yeah,
58:01
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I mean also Rachel
58:04
Speaker 1: found love back of found love, but it's just lately
58:07
Speaker 1: it's gotten kind of out of hand. Yeah. Alright, well, guys,
58:11
Speaker 1: I think that concludes our Bachelor finale podcast and that
58:15
Speaker 1: makes me so sad. Lastly, Savannah, have you heard about
58:21
Speaker 1: a possibility of you being in Paradise? I hope, I am. Okay,
58:25
Speaker 1: so I know that you were a little shy this
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Speaker 1: time around, but you're still wanting to go and do
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Speaker 1: the process again. Yes, I think, Um, you've got some
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Speaker 1: time to think about it. Yeah, I know, I think.
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Speaker 1: I just like, really I need to talk to you all,
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Speaker 1: like I just need um some guidance, I think. And
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Speaker 1: but I mean I do believe it works and I
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Speaker 1: want to find my man. So yeah, give me a
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Speaker 1: good opportunity. It works better than going to a random bar.
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Speaker 1: I think your odds are higher because if you do
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Speaker 1: like the math on it, it's like, okay, so you
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Speaker 1: put that many people in a ball would like one
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Speaker 1: couple come out of that bar married at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day. Like, no, there's a lot of like
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Speaker 1: minded people. Yeah, is there anyone from a previous season
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Speaker 1: you would love to meet in Paradise? M honestly like,
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Speaker 1: I there's not, really, Yes, there is, Yes, there's There
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Speaker 1: was one guy that I thought was really really cute
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Speaker 1: and he actually is kind of talking to one of
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Speaker 1: my friends, so I'm like, okay, well he's aliding into
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Speaker 1: the d MS already. Yes, and he kind of lived
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Speaker 1: by me too. That was like perfect. But when you
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Speaker 1: live really close friends, where do you live? I live
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Speaker 1: in Houston? Houston, Mike, wasn't Mike Mike's Texas? Oh my god?
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Speaker 1: Is it Connor? Her eyes twitching? We're gonna end that
1:00:00
Speaker 1: this podcast on that t all right, you guys. It's
1:00:04
Speaker 1: been a blast doing this the past day, recapping the
1:00:10
Speaker 1: most dramatic Bachelor finale of all time? Truly, truly? Right?
1:00:14
Speaker 1: I mean, is that? Is there any doubt to that? No? Alright, Well,
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Speaker 1: we thank you guys for being here and joining me,
1:00:21
Speaker 1: Angela for flying out, Savannah for you know, also flying out,
1:00:27
Speaker 1: and um. We will be back next week with a
1:00:33
Speaker 1: non season episode with an update apparently. Are you gonna
1:00:38
Speaker 1: get some Harrison updates for us to him? You already
1:00:41
Speaker 1: talked to Harrison today about about whatever just happened within
1:00:44
Speaker 1: the three hours they wrapped the live show. So we'll
1:00:47
Speaker 1: be coming will be coming to you with that news
1:00:50
Speaker 1: next week. We love you guys so much, and we
1:00:53
Speaker 1: miss Ben so much that he's been away and having
1:00:58
Speaker 1: a bad WiFi connection on the road. We'll get it
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