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Episode 204. Jessie Czebotar: What Are You Really Communicating With? · Wake Up with Miya

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  Speaker 1: We wanted to show kind of how the spiritual attachments work,
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  Speaker 1: how even unknowingly, you could go to a thrift store,
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  Speaker 1: you could go to a groad sale, you could even
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  Speaker 1: go to a regular store, a music store. You go in,
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  Speaker 1: you pick up a CD. You think nothing of it,
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  Speaker 1: You think this is great.
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  Speaker 2: I love this artist.
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  Speaker 1: I hear their songs on the radio all the time.
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  Speaker 1: You bring it into your home. Next thing, you start
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  Speaker 1: experiencing paranormal activity, or all of a sudden you're dealing
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  Speaker 1: with like a spirit, like a countenance of depression, Like
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  Speaker 1: you just feel dark, you feel suppressed, and you don't
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  Speaker 1: know where that's coming from.
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  Speaker 3: Questions about the unseen realm have been discussed for centuries,
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  Speaker 3: and many Christians still wrestle with how to understand spiritual
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  Speaker 3: experiences through a biblical lens. In today's interview, I'm joined
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  Speaker 3: once again by returning guest Jesse Subboda to discuss whether
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  Speaker 3: certain objects can carry spiritual significance, whether children with imaginary
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  Speaker 3: friends may be experiencing something beyond imagination, what people may
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  Speaker 3: actually encounter during nardath experiences, and how Christians can approach
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  Speaker 3: these topics with biblical discernment. We also discuss deliverance, spiritual deception,
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  Speaker 3: and other fascinating questions about the unseen realm. But before
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  Speaker 3: the plus side on either Patreon or YouTube. Now let's
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  Speaker 3: get into today's conversation. Enjoy the show, Love Jesse, and
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  Speaker 3: welcome back. It's always a pleasure to have you back
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  Speaker 3: on this show. Before we get into today's conversation, you've
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  Speaker 3: been keeping busy with classes, workshops, interviews. But for those
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  Speaker 3: who may not be knowing who you are and meeting
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  Speaker 3: for the first time, tell us a little bit about
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  Speaker 3: what you've been focused on recently, where people can connect
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  Speaker 3: with you, and anything new and exciting to share.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, first I'll give you the connections. You can
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  Speaker 1: connect with me on Patreon dot com as well as
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  Speaker 1: my website Kingdom Living with Jesse dot com and my
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  Speaker 1: YouTube channels which are Jesse's a Voter for six one
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  Speaker 1: nine and Kingdom Living TV so on there as well
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  Speaker 1: as on my website. I've got some upcoming dynamic workshops
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  Speaker 1: that I think one of the biggest questions I get
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  Speaker 1: is how can I know where the Brotherhood or the
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  Speaker 1: sovereign military or the occult are operating in my area?
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  Speaker 1: Are there witches, are their psychics? Are they those who
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  Speaker 1: are doing tarot cards?
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  Speaker 2: How can I know?
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  Speaker 1: How can I know the bigger connections to what they're
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  Speaker 1: engaging in and we can know those things. So I
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  Speaker 1: offer a series of workshops, coachings, decodes that tell you
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  Speaker 1: how not only how to identify, how to know where
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  Speaker 1: they're working and operating through their secret language that they use,
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  Speaker 1: whether that's city sigils or coat of arms, but also
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  Speaker 1: to know, like we're going to be getting into these
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  Speaker 1: bigger d coodes where it really shows you more and
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  Speaker 1: you can use it for more than just the knowledge
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  Speaker 1: of identifying. It gets into using that information in prayer
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  Speaker 1: strategy to break down their altars and really open that
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  Speaker 1: space for the Holy Spirit to begin to move in
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  Speaker 1: those areas. Scripture gives a promise when Isaiah fifty eight,
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  Speaker 1: the Lord says, this is the type of fast that
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  Speaker 1: I desire, that you would fast, that your voice would
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  Speaker 1: be heard on high, that the chains of wickedness would
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  Speaker 1: be broken, and the yokes of oppression broken asunder. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like we're in a war and we can know
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  Speaker 1: this information. We are not powerless. So upcoming this month,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to have the universities and the island d codes.
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  Speaker 1: With the universities, We're going to get into the hidden
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  Speaker 1: occultic and witchcraft histories of some of the universities. Are
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  Speaker 1: we aware of things like in Ohio? Ohio is one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest witches havens in the world and and
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  Speaker 1: it every year they're going to have a Grand High
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  Speaker 1: Witches Ball. Most of us have never even heard of that.
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  Speaker 1: But is that connected to some of the universities in Ohio?
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  Speaker 1: You know, how can we find out about that? Or
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  Speaker 1: you know Oxford, we hear stories of mythical creatures like vampires.
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  Speaker 1: Where will secret libraries, occultic books.
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  Speaker 2: And groom moores?
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  Speaker 1: You know, how do we know where those things are?
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  Speaker 1: And can can we know? So I'm going to show
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  Speaker 1: you exactly where those things are at and how to
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  Speaker 1: identify all of that. So I encourage you to visit
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  Speaker 1: the website, The universities and the Island Extravaganza decodes are
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  Speaker 1: coming up July thirtieth and the thirty first.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that's so exciting, hey, for the topic of spiritual communication,
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  Speaker 3: not just practices people intentionally seek out, but also whether
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  Speaker 3: certain objects and places have spiritual significance, how that happens,
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  Speaker 3: and how people can discern what really is taking place.
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  Speaker 3: I know many cultures throughout history have believed that objects
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  Speaker 3: can be blessed or cursed or even dedicated for spiritual purposes.
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  Speaker 3: Can an object actual care actually carry spiritual significance and
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  Speaker 3: if so, how.
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely? And let me give you an example. A few
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  Speaker 1: years back, me and another co host that I have,
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  Speaker 1: George Eisman, we did it event in Louisiana, and we
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  Speaker 1: wanted to show people kind of how the spiritual attachments work. Now,
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  Speaker 1: even unknowingly, you could go to a thrift store, you
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  Speaker 1: could go to a groag sale. You could even go
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  Speaker 1: to a regular store a music store. You go in,
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  Speaker 1: you pick up a CD, you think nothing of it,
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  Speaker 1: You think this is great. I love this artist. I
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  Speaker 1: heard their songs on the radio all the time. You
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  Speaker 1: bring it into your home. Next thing, you start experiencing
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  Speaker 1: paranormal activity and or all of a sudden you're dealing
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  Speaker 1: with like a spirit, like a countenance of depression, Like
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  Speaker 1: you just feel dark, you feel suppressed, and you don't
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  Speaker 1: know where that's coming from. I've even had situations like
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  Speaker 1: taking people on live tours of areas, like when we
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  Speaker 1: were down in Austin, Texas, we went to go see
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  Speaker 1: the Capitol. As you go into that building, the majority
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  Speaker 1: of the people, all of a sudden, they felt like
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  Speaker 1: this heavy, heavy suppression. They felt really drained, really tired,
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  Speaker 1: and they were like, like, what in the world is
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  Speaker 1: going on? That's all forms of spiritual warfare, and where
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  Speaker 1: what does that come from? That comes from a few things.
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  Speaker 1: One certain lay line energies that in the system they're
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  Speaker 1: going to connect certain buildings or properties lands, things like
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  Speaker 1: it could be books and libraries where like you're wandering
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  Speaker 1: through library, you get to one section and all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, you feel like the shift in the atmosphere.
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  Speaker 1: So they can do that connect certain forms of energy
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  Speaker 1: either to objects or to buildings, to land itself. That
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  Speaker 1: usually indicates that there's either a spiritual attachment or an
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  Speaker 1: altar or spiritual gait in the area. But in our
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  Speaker 1: Louisiana event, we just went we picked up a random
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  Speaker 1: items from older thrift store. One of them was this
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  Speaker 1: really old picture that was in a frame, and we
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  Speaker 1: picked up some child toys like that can be one
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  Speaker 1: that often you get a lot of spiritual attachments, and
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  Speaker 1: the witches and the warlocks in areas, they'll take certain
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  Speaker 1: items like cool little rocks or gems that will be tempting.
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  Speaker 1: They can do coins, they can do things like legos
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  Speaker 1: or little lego people, and they'll put them on certain
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  Speaker 1: alters that they have to energize those items with negative spirits.
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  Speaker 1: Then they'll drop them in front of your house or
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  Speaker 1: in the school area, and they want somebody to pick
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  Speaker 1: it up and take it home, and that's how they
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  Speaker 1: get a door into your personal space. So what had
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  Speaker 1: happened was George had his electromagnetic detector and we kind
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  Speaker 1: of had each item, we held it up and nothing
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  Speaker 1: from any of the items until we got to that picture. Now,
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  Speaker 1: when we got to that picture, that electromagnetic detector started.
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  Speaker 1: The colors were like full spectrum. It's going off and
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  Speaker 1: we're like, wow, that's interesting.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 1: We thought it would be the picture that had the
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  Speaker 1: spiritual attachment, and as we began to pull the whole
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  Speaker 1: frame and everything apart, it wasn't the picture. It actually
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  Speaker 1: was there was something attached to the glass, and as
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  Speaker 1: we rebuked the spirit, it was interesting because the electromagnetic
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  Speaker 1: detector started like doing wonky things, like it was going
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  Speaker 1: all over the place, and finally we just stood firm
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  Speaker 1: we rebuked it, and next thing we know, there was
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  Speaker 1: like a gust of wind that went from that picture
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  Speaker 1: and it opened like the back door opened as the
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  Speaker 1: spirit exited the building. And it was crazy. It's like
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  Speaker 1: that was in the glass of the frame.
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  Speaker 2: Who would have thought?
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  Speaker 1: When how many people pick up old frames and then
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  Speaker 1: you put something else in it, hang it up on
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  Speaker 1: your wall, so you never think of these things, but
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  Speaker 1: you bring it home, you start to have like very
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  Speaker 1: sexual dreams or nightmares things. All those things can be
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  Speaker 1: indicators of spiritual attachments. So yeah, they can not just
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  Speaker 1: your what you would obviously know is a culttic.
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  Speaker 2: But it can be in anything.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that gave me chicken skin. Oof, that is crazy.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, you just kind of answered this question,
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  Speaker 6: so I started to repeat the question. But so when
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  Speaker 6: people think of spiritual warfare, they usually think about maybe people,
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  Speaker 6: but places and objects also can be become part of
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  Speaker 6: that unseen world. How does that happen? You mentioned that
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  Speaker 6: sometimes the warlocks and witches can put curses or something
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  Speaker 6: on it. How do you know if a place have
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  Speaker 6: been cursed instead of an object, but a place.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when every area, when we think of the system,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's highly organized. Every region is going to be
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  Speaker 1: connected to high priest high priestesses. They're going to have
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  Speaker 1: a mansion or a castle that is kind of the
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  Speaker 1: main stronghold.
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  Speaker 2: In their area.
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  Speaker 1: Then from that area, they're going to kind of out
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  Speaker 1: source to different buildings, different properties where they're going to meet.
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  Speaker 1: Some of those properties will be considered temples to them,
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  Speaker 1: which means they're going to have an altar built in
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  Speaker 1: that place. They're going to come to service that altar
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  Speaker 1: and to worship in that temple. Usually that includes sexual things,
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  Speaker 1: and then that also can include sacrifices.
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  Speaker 5: Some portions of this conversation have been removed due to
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  Speaker 5: YouTube content guidelines. Watch the full interview on the plus side.
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  Speaker 1: And then when you know the ritual seasons, you're kind
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  Speaker 1: of watching to see which rotation are they on within
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  Speaker 1: that area. You're going to get some areas where they're
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  Speaker 1: going to participate in all the rituals all year round.
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  Speaker 1: You get others that they'll there'll be a rotation between
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  Speaker 1: that region or with in that region, so like your
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  Speaker 1: area will be. They'll come around once like once every
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  Speaker 1: four like four times, or sometimes it's every other time
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  Speaker 1: between a couple areas. So you have to know how
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  Speaker 1: to read those things and watch for that and see
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  Speaker 1: who's gathering.
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  Speaker 3: When Oh my gosh, can someone unknowingly invites spiritual influences
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  Speaker 3: into their life without ever intentionally trying to communicate with spirits?
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  Speaker 3: I guess you can because you said that these these
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  Speaker 3: legos or whatever these witches has.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you pick it up, or they can even
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  Speaker 1: do it in your yard like this was a scary
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  Speaker 1: thing like I've had where witches, Well, they'll do like
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  Speaker 1: little braided twigs or do kind of shapes with like
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  Speaker 1: vines or twigs, and they'll stick it in your bush,
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  Speaker 1: or they'll kind of bury it in the ground under
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  Speaker 1: a big hedge. They can put it like underneath a
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  Speaker 1: patio or stairways when you think, oh, it's just grass
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  Speaker 1: that blew in or things like that. But if I've
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  Speaker 1: even seen like where they'll use dried frogs or lizards
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  Speaker 1: and you maybe think, oh, something must have gotten the
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  Speaker 1: house and it just dried out under that box. But
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  Speaker 1: was it more? Was there something that they were doing
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  Speaker 1: with witchcraft to gain access, to be able to see
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing, and to impact you.
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  Speaker 3: That's scary because you don't know. They can come in
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  Speaker 3: every different way to attack you, right.
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  Speaker 1: And the big is though, that you can know, like
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  Speaker 1: what are the symptoms or the signs that you're under
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  Speaker 1: spiritual warfare? One of the biggest indicators is what happens
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  Speaker 1: to you at night? Are you having issues with really
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  Speaker 1: disturbed sleep where you're waking up all the time, Are
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  Speaker 1: you having nightmares or are you just having this restlessness
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  Speaker 1: like agitation in your countenance and your spirit. Those usually
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  Speaker 1: are big indicators that something's going on.
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  Speaker 5: Some portions of this conversation have been removed due to
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  Speaker 5: YouTube content guidelines. Watch the full unedited interview on the
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  Speaker 5: plus side.
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  Speaker 1: So all of those things can be ways that you're
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  Speaker 1: attacked and you aren't even aware. So windows like when
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  Speaker 1: you're starting to get symptoms, Go before the Lord. Ask
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  Speaker 1: the Lord to show you the attack. Show show what's
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  Speaker 1: going on?
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  Speaker 5: Lord?
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything in my gut that's getting hit?
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  Speaker 2: What is it?
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  Speaker 7: Lord?
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  Speaker 1: What's the cause of this? Is it what I'm eating?
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  Speaker 1: Is it a matter of obedience, something I need to
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  Speaker 1: steward different? Or is there something coming against me? Show me,
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  Speaker 1: and then ask the Lord for the healing. Lord, heal me. Lord,
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  Speaker 1: I'm asking for sleep. So the next thing is after
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  Speaker 1: like you're identifying kind of the symptom. What are you
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  Speaker 1: experiencing Where are you experiencing it in your body? Then
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  Speaker 1: you're going to look outside of yourself at your environment.
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  Speaker 1: Is the attack happening at a certain place or time?
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  Speaker 1: Is it only at night or is it all throughout
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  Speaker 1: the day.
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  Speaker 2: And the night?
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  Speaker 1: Or is it only during the day. Is it taking
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  Speaker 1: place at a certain place, like are you only getting
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  Speaker 1: hit when you're in your bed at night? Is it
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  Speaker 1: in your kit? Is it at your office?
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  Speaker 2: Is it in the car?
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  Speaker 1: The car can be a big place where people get attacks,
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  Speaker 1: especially like hunger, like the overeating, Like every time you
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  Speaker 1: get in your car, you're triggered to go spend money
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  Speaker 1: and go eat that can be a spiritual attack. So
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  Speaker 1: after you ask the Lord to show you where are
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  Speaker 1: you getting attacked. Once you identify that, ask the Lord
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  Speaker 1: to show you the access point. Lord, is there anything
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  Speaker 1: I have brought into this room that is giving the
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  Speaker 1: enemy a doorway? And as he shows you things like
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  Speaker 1: what I encourage people is get a box. If it
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  Speaker 1: can't fit in a box, then remove it from that room.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever the Lord shows you, remove that item, put it
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  Speaker 1: in a box, put it in the garage, anoint it,
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  Speaker 1: pray over it, rebuke the enemy's authority. I just say,
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  Speaker 1: simple prayer, the Lord rebuke you. Whatever spirits may be
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  Speaker 1: attached to these things, The Lord rebuke you, and I
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  Speaker 1: remove your permission and authority in my home. I often
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  Speaker 1: will say, as for me and my house, we will
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  Speaker 1: serve the Lord. You do not have permission or authority
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  Speaker 1: to be here. I bind you, and I cast you
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  Speaker 1: out in Jesus' name, And so just anoint it, leave
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  Speaker 1: it there, and then ask the Lord if if that's good,
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  Speaker 1: if the spirits are removed, if the items are able
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  Speaker 1: to come back in, or if he wants you to
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  Speaker 1: get rid of them. Sometimes people when they've done that,
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  Speaker 1: they have family heirlooms that go in there, and I've
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  Speaker 1: had some where the Lord's told them get rid of it.
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  Speaker 1: I've had others where after that the Lord says it's fine,
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  Speaker 1: they put it back in the house and they don't
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  Speaker 1: have any further issues. Now, it can be harder when
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  Speaker 1: you're dealing with shared homes and you've got something that
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  Speaker 1: your husband or your children have brought into the house
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  Speaker 1: that can be a fight, and that at times can
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  Speaker 1: be a stronghold there that the enemy's going to cause
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  Speaker 1: that fight because that spirit wants to remain in the
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  Speaker 1: home and it's going to cause division, strife, and discord.
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  Speaker 1: And so what I encourage with that is before you
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  Speaker 1: just take and remove, I simply annoy kind of the
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  Speaker 1: room outside, like outside the doorway, and I don't enter
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  Speaker 1: or engage into the fight. Like I'll anoint the room
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  Speaker 1: in the area, I'll cast out.
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  Speaker 2: Remove the permissions.
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  Speaker 1: Of the spirit, and then I ask the Lord to
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  Speaker 1: stir that person's heart to show that there's something not
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  Speaker 1: right and to remove the item. I'll approach it that
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  Speaker 1: way and ask the Lord to show them for themselves
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  Speaker 1: that it needs to go, and I'll enter into time
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  Speaker 1: of fasting and praying, because that's how we deal with strongholds.
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  Speaker 1: When the spirits won't go, we need to fast and
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  Speaker 1: pray to remove them.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, how long do you have to fast for?
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  Speaker 1: That can vary. Sometimes it can be really quick. Other
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  Speaker 1: times it can be a long battle. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: won't lie about that. At times there are meetings that
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  Speaker 1: people don't want to get rid of. I'm sorry, what
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  Speaker 1: was that you cut out? Just a little bit?
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  Speaker 3: Sorry? Sometimes do you have to fast a couple of days?
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  Speaker 2: It may go longer.
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  Speaker 1: There are some fast that it can go on for
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  Speaker 1: years that you're fasting for the breaking of that stronghold,
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  Speaker 1: So any longer it takes the deeper the stronghold.
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  Speaker 3: When you say fasting, do you mean not eating certain things?
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  Speaker 3: Or is that something different?
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  Speaker 1: There's different forms of fast. That's the typical fast is
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  Speaker 1: that you would abstain from food. But I'm the Lord
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  Speaker 1: showed me years ago what I call fast of obedience,
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  Speaker 1: and that goes back to that Isaiah or yeah, isay
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  Speaker 1: a fifty eight where the Lord says, this is the
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  Speaker 1: fast that I desire that you would fast so your
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  Speaker 1: voice would be heard on high, that the chains of
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  Speaker 1: wickedness would be broken. And the yokes of oppression broken asunder.
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  Speaker 1: So in that it's a fast where you're praying for
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  Speaker 1: your voice to be heard on high, but you're asking
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  Speaker 1: the Lord what do I need to give up or
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  Speaker 1: surrender during this fast. I've had some fast like one
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  Speaker 1: I had a chaffar and the Lord told me that
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  Speaker 1: every day I needed to pour anointing oil into that
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  Speaker 1: shaffar and then I had to anoint myself from the oil.
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  Speaker 2: That was in it.
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  Speaker 1: And I did that fast of obedience for a three
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  Speaker 1: year period. So when you enter into things like that,
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  Speaker 1: the Lord's breaking something loose. I had another one that
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  Speaker 1: was also about three years, where the Lord had me
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  Speaker 1: abstain from coffee, where I just was not allowed to
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  Speaker 1: have coffee. And that one, too, he told me it
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  Speaker 1: was specifically for the healing of the nations. And during
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  Speaker 1: that three year period, as I abstained from coffee, the
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Lord literally like brought to me people that needed prayer
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  Speaker 1: for certain types of healing. So it was really neat
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  Speaker 1: to see as I entered into that act of obedience
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  Speaker 1: that there were things that happened through that. So I
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  Speaker 1: always say ask the Lord, what in what way do
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  Speaker 1: you want me to fast? I've had some other fast
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  Speaker 1: like where the Lord has had me pour oil into
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  Speaker 1: my bath water. You know, so int it can be
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  Speaker 1: anything that the Lord has you do that you know
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  Speaker 1: you're just committed during.
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  Speaker 2: That time to do.
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  Speaker 1: And as you do that active obedience, you know, you're
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  Speaker 1: praying for the matter that the Lord wants you to
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  Speaker 1: be in prayer and intercession for.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I know many people believe they're communicating with deceased loved
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  Speaker 3: ones through mediums, spirit boards, or other spiritual practices. Others
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  Speaker 3: they believe they're receiving guidance from spiritual guides or benevolent entities.
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  Speaker 3: But from a biblical perspective, what do you believe is
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  Speaker 3: actually taking place during these encounters. Are people actually communicating
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  Speaker 3: with their loved ones or are they interacting with something else?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my full belief is that people are interacting with
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  Speaker 1: something else. Now, I will say that with kind of
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  Speaker 1: a disclaimer, because we do see a few things like
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  Speaker 1: I've actually had experiences as a chaplain at the point
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  Speaker 1: of death with some people where I've literally seen them
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  Speaker 1: cross over. So you know, you may have an experience
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  Speaker 1: like that where you actually see your loved one before
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: they go and they pass over Also, you know experience
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  Speaker 1: that at times where and of life people see their
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  Speaker 1: loved ones in heaven or start to hear them communicating
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  Speaker 1: with them. Some of those are valid experiences, but I've
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  Speaker 1: also seen it the other way where it's not valid.
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  Speaker 1: We see in scripture the example of King Saul where
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  Speaker 1: he goes, you know, the Lord's told him to go
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  Speaker 1: to war, but he decides to stop and he consults
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  Speaker 1: a medium. Now in that experience, the Witch of Endor.
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  Speaker 1: She she believes that, you know, she's going to be
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: summoning up a spirit, and as she summons, she gets
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: the real spirit of Elijah or I'm sorry, it with Samuel,
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  Speaker 1: and she's surprised. Why was she surprised because usually she's
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: summoning up a spirit, not of an actual person, but
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: a demonic spirit. But this time, as a sign, the
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Lord literally had Samuel respond and she was terrified because
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, a spirit, it was the real person.
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  Speaker 1: And you see through that that the Lord delivers a
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  Speaker 1: strong word through Samuel to Saul, and that's when the
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  Speaker 1: kingdom is removed from Saul because he disobeyed God in
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  Speaker 1: going to.
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  Speaker 2: The witch to.
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  Speaker 1: Inquire what he should do in the matter rather than
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  Speaker 1: inquiring of God. So, you know, I think that that
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  Speaker 1: kind of is the framework when we think of that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when you think of it, these spirits their job,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you know, they don't die, their eternal creatures. They're going
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: to have a final judgment where the Lord destroys them
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: because of their wicked and you know, they're assigned to territories,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: to areas. Their job is. You know, originally, as angels,
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  Speaker 1: their job was to be a ministering spirit, to minister
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  Speaker 1: to a need, to be a help, a support. That's
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: what administering spirit does. But when they fell, when they
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: were cast out, that's no longer their intent. Right. What
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: is their intent to tempt to lure, to attract you
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: into some sin.
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  Speaker 7: Why?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Because it builds the framework for you know, legal ground
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: for them to build strongholds and spiritual attachments to be
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: able to bind you in chains of wickedness and yolks
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: of oppression. So their job is to study like they
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: study people. They know, you know they because they were there.
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  Speaker 1: They know your grandfather, they know your parents, they know.
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  Speaker 2: Them very well.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Can they mimic characteristics? Can they you know, repeat certain
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: phrases things that would be very specific or maybe even
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: you know, reference a specific point in time, a very
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: meaningful interaction that you had with that individual. They can
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and so, you know, we have to be discerning and wise.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: The majority of the time, I think that the test
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: kind of comes down to this, and my natural instinct
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: is if I experience something, I rebuke it. You know,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the Lord rebuke you, and you're gonna know from a reaction.
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  Speaker 1: The majority of the time, if you do that, you
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: weren't gonna get a you know, like a like a
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: visitation from the Lord response. You know, when we see
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: in scripture that angels were sent to certain people, like
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: you had angels sent to Mary, to Joseph, you had
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Daniel receiving information from an angel, they knew that entity
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: was there, that that entity was sent from God, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: that it came with a very specific you know, Thus
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: says the Lord, here's what is going to happen, here's
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: what you are going to do, and there was an
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: empowering of the Holy Spirit that came with it, and
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: they proceeded forth to do exactly what the Lord had
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: given them to do. If you're not getting that, you know,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: don't enter into calm conversation with the entity. My guess
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: is when you rebuke it and command it to go,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: it's gonna get nasty. You know, I have had for
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: people who had loved ones past. I have had visions
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: of my son that I lost, you know, I've shared
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: those in the past. It's some of my events. But
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I've had glimpses of him up in heaven. Not not interacting,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: but I had you know where I saw a vision
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: of him up in heaven and all of a sudden,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I just heard mom and as I, like, you know, looked,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I saw what transpired, and I saw some very specific
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: things with that that the Lord showed me. But there
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: wasn't you know, that communication between It was just the
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Lord showed me something very specific but also ministered to
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: me peace. You know, I saw my love one there
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  Speaker 1: in heaven. I knew he was with the Lord. I
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: knew he was doing stuff up there in heaven, and
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I saw it clearly. So we can have moments like that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, those are things that you can treasure, you know.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: At the same time, if there's more, if there's things
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that are like kind of strange, weird, where after those
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: encounters you're getting a lot of nightmares you know, that's
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: something to rebuke, and you know, just be mindful to
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: rebuke and cast out command the spirits to go.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry about your son. I didn't know you had
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: a son that passed away, So sorry about that. Do
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: different methods of spiritual communication produce different kinds of experience,
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: maybe different principalities or different I don't know, demons are
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: attached to different things, Like would a tarot card be
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: a different kind of spirit than a Luiji born spirit?
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Does that even make sense?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Absolutely it does, and yes, you do get different forms
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: of spirits. You also get kind of different like I
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: kind of relate the spirits to an army. You're gonna
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: get some spirits that are principalities, that are strongholds, that
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: are the generals. You get others that may be commanders
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: under those generals. And then you're gonna get those I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: call the little chicken s h I t's. They come
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: in hordes and they're nasty. You know, with those, you're
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: gonna primarily get a focus on, you know, tempting, luring,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: kind of hordes of spirits that will press and try
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to keep you down. So you're definitely gonna get those
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: different levels you know your tarot cards, you're gonna get
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: many of those connected directly to a higher principality, and
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: that's tath. They even call the tarot cards the Toth
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Tarot cards. Then you know your Wiji board, that's gonna
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: be more your lower layer hordes of spirits at the
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: higher levels of the occult they do not you know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: even witchcraft, they don't use Wigi boards. They aren't going
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: to entertain it because they know that there it's just
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: all the little hordes of chicken demons that connect to that.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Your high level witches, they don't, they don't play with
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: things like that. Uh, it's primarily, you know, a recruitment tool.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: You're gonna get it.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Used by a lot of the lower end psychics, and
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: they're going to use it as a way to kind
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: of lure people to receive readings, to kind of make
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: connections where then they're coming to that psychic.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: For help and for information.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: So that's usually how the Ouiji board is used.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Many parents have stories about young children talking to imaginary friends.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: In your experience, have you encountered cases where those imaginary
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: friends seems to be something more and how should parents respond?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, every situation that imaginary friend is something more and
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: you need to inquire. You know, I would not take
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: it lightly, but I'll say this. Children can see angels
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: at times, they can receive words from the Lord or
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: words that are sent to them. That can happen. So
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the first thing, you know, if your child is singing
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: something like that, you want to ask them about their friend.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: You know, where did you encounter this friend? Is this
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: friend only coming at night? You know, what information, what
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: knowledge is this friend giving to your child? Because at
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: a very young age, the occult starts to.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Draw children in for.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Training, and that can even be within your quadrant or region.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: You can have your grand high priest or priestesses targeting
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: your child and seeing what spiritual gifts do they have.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: They want to.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Test the spiritual perception. They want to you know, especially
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: for children that can here, see or feel in the
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: spirit realm. They're testing for that. They want to see
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: how advanced your child is, what's the extent of their
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: skills and abilities. That's what usually you're going to see
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: in connection with the conversations. You know, ask yourself what
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: is being tested? What spiritual gifts are coming out in
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: my child? And then the next question should be who
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: is targeting my child. You know, if it definitely is
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: not of the Lord, then you want to teach your
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: child to rebuke it, pray together, rebuke it, cast it out,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: and then look for again that access point, anoint remove
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: permission and authorities. You can get high level witches, warlocks, priestess,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: priestesses or priests that they will community. It will seem
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: like it's in the child's head or you know, in
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: your head, but they can communicate that way. So you know,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: you may have a whole covent targeting your child.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: And it's common for.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Them to try to connect children to familiars as they
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: begin to find out, you know, what's the sole residence
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: of that child, what types of magic is that child
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: drawn to. Some of the things that they may do
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes is they may visit your child at school.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: They can do certain testing at school. Some of the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: testing I went through, like they laid out all of
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: these witchcraft objects like tarot cards, candles, shawls, feathers, each
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: of those are connected to different forms of magic. And
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: they said, you know, all of the kids in the class,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: you know, go up, pick your itemsh everybody what you
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: picked and put it back down. That test is to
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: find out what spirits are you most drawn to, what
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: types of magic are you most drawn to? So ask
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: your child, like, is there any special gifts that your
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: friend's given you that they've told you to hide? Usually
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: they'll have the kids hide it. Where did you put it?
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: You know, you want to know where.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: That special It could be a rock, it could be,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: you know, a coin, it could be something that they
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: had the child steal from you. You know, so you
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: want to say, well, you know, did they give you anything,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: did they tell you to take anything? Did they have
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: you hide it? You know, I won't mad. Why don't
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: you show me where it is? And let's annoint it together.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: You know, it's important to annoy those things because there might.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Be you know, bad things with it.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Let's annoint it together, and let's see if you can
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: get the child to show you. You know, what are
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: they having the child to do. One of the most
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: common things connects to the witchcraft of scrawing, which is
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: writing in the spirit, And so you'll get like, the
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: spirit will channel communications and have the child write or draw.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: You know, did the spirit tell you to to write
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: or draw anything for them? Did they want you to
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: give them a picture. Where did you take the picture?
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Where did they tell you to put it? Sometimes they
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: might have them put it in a special spot outside
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: or something, or you know, you want to see, like
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: where they having the child do things? Where are they
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: having them hide things, and where are they having them
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: take things? Because a lot of times those spaces can
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: be connected to old altars, So you want to find out,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: you know, where they having the kid hide it under
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: the bed, under a board under the bed, like where's
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: the secret space? And you know, so you'll find usually
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: that familiar connection with a familiar spirit. What animal is
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: it is there? Is it connected to a cat? Is
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: it connected to fairies?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: You know? Ask the questions and have the child show you,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: you know, show you or draw it, tell you about it.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Kind of open that space where it's non judgmental one
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: because the spirits will tell the child to hide it,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: that they'll get in trouble, that mommy or daddy will
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: be mad if they're really little, and that starts that
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: division in the family. You know that they're keeping a
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: secret and there'll be some secret knowledge connected to it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: So that is part of that code of silence that
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: they begin to build that there's things that the child
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: can't tell, and those are the things you want to
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: look out for.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Many people have had near death experiences and they describe
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: encountering beings or entering another realm. From your perspective, what
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: do you think they're actually experiencing.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I would say with those.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: There's fifty to fifty.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I have had individuals that have had definite experiences in
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: heaven with God.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: You know, I had one gentleman.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Literally it was probably the strangest experience that I ever had,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: But it was like he had already passed, but he
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: was not like we even had the nurses came. They
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: verified like he wasn't like sleeping, he wasn't in a
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: coma yet. It was like he was not there in
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: his body, but his body was still alive but non responsive,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: but not in a coma, not you know, capacity or decapacitated.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: In another way.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: And so we entered just into prayer and a few
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: hours later, all of a sudden, it was like and
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: he wakes up and he's like I just was in
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: heaven having this conversation with God, and he told us
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: all about it, and it was like, wow, that was
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: like when you know in scripture, you see the Lord
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: pulls Daniel's spirit up into heaven and has this entire conversation,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: and then you know, we find out later that Daniel
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: was sick for a few days after that just because
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: of the stress on the body from that experience. So
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: there are real encounters like that where they are experiencing
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: things of heaven. I've had people give elaborate details or descriptions.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: You know, and then.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I've had the fake you know, where people are saying
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: they were communicating with something and you're like, you know,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: this does not there is something like you feel it
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: in your spirit. You kind of pick up where you're like,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: there's something not right in this situation. There's something that
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: feels often demonic with it. Those people may not always
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: be willing to conversate with you. You know, they may value
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: that experience, they may see it as a sign, they
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: may see it as a communication of something out of worldly.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: But you know, when you look at even some of
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the alien encounters, you know, way those experiences that people
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: are relating with things that you know about spiritual warfare, usually.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: You're going to find some things.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: One the paralyzing effect that people lose complete control of
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: their body or their mind, or they're very aware of
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: the things that are happening to them, but they can
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: do anything about it. You get that same paralyzing effect
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: with demonic encounters, where people are terrorized, they're paralyzed, and
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: you have the spirit perpetrating acts upon them. You know,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: in both cases. The other thing is with the secret knowledge,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: you'll hear hear terms like you know, you're chosen, you're special,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: or they'll have some certain secret knowledge or specific task
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: for that individual and it's not you know, you definitely
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: know it's not of God, but that's what you'll see.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: And many times, like with the alien and the demonic,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: the special information can come in forms of formulas, puzzles,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: things they got to figure out, but not connecting them
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: back to the Word of God. It's very mathematical or
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: scientifically focused, you know. So those are things that I'd
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: pay attention to, the same thing. You know, you hear
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: in alien encounters with people when they rebuke or they
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  Speaker 1: use the name of Jesus, all of a sudden, the
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  Speaker 1: alien is out of there.
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  Speaker 2: Why is that? You know, if they were higher.
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  Speaker 1: Beings that predated God and the universe, why do they
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  Speaker 1: still respond to the name of Jesus and a rebuke
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  Speaker 1: like a demon would. So you know, if you're having
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  Speaker 1: encounters like that, or somebody is and they're not feeling
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  Speaker 1: safe or good about it, I would treat it like
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  Speaker 1: a you know, demonic encounter and would address it in
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  Speaker 1: that same way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, Yes. Now, if someone believes they open a
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  Speaker 3: door spiritually through past experience or practices, what would you
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  Speaker 3: recommend they do?
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  Speaker 1: The first thing is confess. Confession and repentance removes any
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  Speaker 1: legal ground that the spirit may have.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: First, John one nine says, if we confess our sins,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Lord is faithful and just to forgive
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  Speaker 1: us and to cleanse us from all on righteousness. So
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  Speaker 1: that's what you want to do. First, Just confess the
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  Speaker 1: sin Lord. You know, if you don't know what it is,
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  Speaker 1: ask Lord, is there something in my past that I've done?
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  Speaker 1: You know, whether that was you know, playing a game
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  Speaker 1: with mears, you know, conjuring up a spirit in your
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  Speaker 1: high school years with friends, whether that was visiting a psychic,
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  Speaker 1: or it can even be you know, this one's the
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  Speaker 1: most common among Christians is that you know, you go
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  Speaker 1: and you ask everybody, but you never seek the Lord
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  Speaker 1: for the answer. You know, you talk to everybody about
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  Speaker 1: your problem, everybody about your situation. You seek out the
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  Speaker 1: multitude of counselors, but you never ask the Lord. That
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  Speaker 1: can be a doorway because you're seeking out the wisdom
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  Speaker 1: of men rather than the wisdom of God.
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  Speaker 2: So ask the Lord what.
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  Speaker 5: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Again?
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  Speaker 3: Show me, is.
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  Speaker 1: There anything that I've done the moment the spirit reveals it,
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  Speaker 1: confess it asked to be cleansed from all and righteousness.
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  Speaker 1: Then rebuke any attachments that may have come. Lord, is
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  Speaker 1: there a specific spirit? Is there a specific sin that's
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  Speaker 1: led me into Show me the deeper things that I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing where I'm you know, worshiping the Spirit or worshiping
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  Speaker 1: at the altar that this spirit has built in my life.
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  Speaker 3: Wonderful. Now, I didn't ask you about the photos or
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  Speaker 3: the images behind you.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to explain that?
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  Speaker 1: So sorry, it's good. I just thought it went along
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  Speaker 1: with our topics today. Yes, I on my YouTube channel
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  Speaker 1: Jesse Zibouter four six one nine, I have my seriously
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  Speaker 1: Gather your mana daily But one of the things I've
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  Speaker 1: included in that series is I've started to bring out
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  Speaker 1: the current trend things that are occultically or trending in
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  Speaker 1: witchcraft on TikTok, and so I have different topics like
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  Speaker 1: spell jars, dark sorcery, shadow work, and some of you
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  Speaker 1: may even see some of these things coming into your stores,
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  Speaker 1: like Walmart will carry Dark Shadow journals. Now you get
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  Speaker 1: other things that you may not You might be like,
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  Speaker 1: what in the world is that? But so it's it's
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  Speaker 1: meant to be an a formative series. This was This
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  Speaker 1: was the cover from my Dark Shadow Witchcraft showed that
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  Speaker 1: I did, Sorry, which talk show I did on a
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  Speaker 1: YouTube channel. But you get different forms, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can get occultic books. You can get even vine work.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: So you see like the one here like which is
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  Speaker 1: like if you're ever in the woods, or you might
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: be near an abandoned place or older place. If you
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  Speaker 1: see like those twisted vines and they're like in a circle,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: which is will put those in the woods or certain
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  Speaker 1: places and they'll use those as portals.
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  Speaker 2: To get to a certain area.
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  Speaker 1: During ritual times, you have things like they'll use sage,
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  Speaker 1: they'll use candles, the colors of the candles matter. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've had kids that will talk about you know, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my aunt was using purple candles. They were cool. Well,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: what do you mean purple candles? You know, what do
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  Speaker 1: they look like? What was she doing?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: She was waving something. You know that that's a wave
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  Speaker 1: offering incense offering, and purple or black candles are very specific.
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  Speaker 1: They're used for hexing about. You're like, well, what color
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  Speaker 1: was the smoke off that candle? Like, if you just
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: have like a regular like decore candle that's purple, the
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: smoke coming off of it is just going to be
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  Speaker 1: your typical you know, white or light color because it's
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  Speaker 1: just a normal candle. But with your witchcraft candles, the
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  Speaker 1: smoke will be a dark haze or a dark purple,
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  Speaker 1: and that is a hex candle, which means that they're
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: you know, were they mad at somebody? Should be your
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: next question. Oh yeah, she was going on and on
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  Speaker 1: about her boyfriend.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Then you know, like, wow, maybe there's something more that
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Antie was doing with.
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  Speaker 3: That candlel Oh, my goodness, that's great though. I love
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  Speaker 3: that visual back there. Thank you for that well, Jesse,
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you taking the time to join me today.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for sharing your research, your knowledge, and your
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: willingness to have these conversations about subjects that people are
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: hesitant to discuss. So I really appreciate that. Always enjoy
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: our conversations, and I'm looking forward to having you back again.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. Thanks guys for listening, and I'll see you
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  Speaker 3: on the next one. Hue hoca cole.
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  Speaker 8: Bye, Uncle, break them up?
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  Speaker 7: I don't say it so locking yet, twettering my fro
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  Speaker 7: into I again? Tell me, is it too soon? Uncle?
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  Speaker 7: Make them crazy?
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  Speaker 4: I know you say you're not afraid, so dubb it
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  Speaker 4: just stomping, nothing to boot, But I'm not that away.
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  Speaker 7: Take them a sweet time. I don't want to be
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  Speaker 7: no one s crass? Uncle, break them up by I
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  Speaker 7: don't know. I'm shaking and so I'm walking, yeah, sweating
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  Speaker 7: my father into again. Tell me, is it too soon? Uncle?
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  Speaker 7: Making all going crazy?
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  Speaker 4: N he say when you walk into the room, okay,
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  Speaker 4: things straight, there's no one like you.
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  Speaker 7: But how long in the chase it's feeling away with you?
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: Don't walk away from this tonight. I'm a with losing
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: my coat breaking mo. I don't hush they get so
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: I don't like openly yet tweeting my phone into loose,
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  Speaker 7: making most I don't know. I'm shaking so walking yea,
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  Speaker 7: sweting my pony.
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  Speaker 8: I got you tell me?
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: Is it too soon? It was Aco going crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Crazy crazy crazy, okay crazy going crazy crazy over.
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  Speaker 7: I don't mean I'm saying so. Come on O going
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  Speaker 7: crazy