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Set 2: Mikey A's Expos Hat (w/ Brian Anderson) · Stugotz and Company

• 0:21
  Speaker 1: Ryan Anderson is calling the ALCS game two tonight. He's
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: calling the entire ALCS for TNT, and we'll get to
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: that in just a second, get to some baseball. He's
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: going to join us here in about five to ten minutes,
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: Brian Anderson will, but We were talking about frumpy kickers
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: in set one. We had Matt Hasselbeck on. He was
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: talking about frumpy kickers. And now we have an update
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: on the frumpy kicker from the L.A. Rams, Mikey A.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: What has happened here?
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  Speaker 2: So apparently Sean McVay was listening, and they have moved
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: on from Harold Mevis. They have cut him, and they
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: have signed Blake Grupe off the Jets. Harrison Mevis, yeah,
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: him too.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: Leave us.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, make a kick, and I'll get your name right.
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  Speaker 2: And then they signed Blake Grupe from the Jets practice squad.
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  Speaker 3: Listen.
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  Speaker 1: Things are so bad, they signed the Jet kicker.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be the one who tells Sean
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  Speaker 3: McVay how to run his team.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: The answer to your problems is almost never on the
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  Speaker 3: Jets practice squad.
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  Speaker 1: Put it on the poll. Is the answer to your
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: problems ever on the Jets practice squad? That's ridiculous. How
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: does this kicker look, the kicker from the Jets? Is
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  Speaker 1: he frumpy? No, no, he's ripped.
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  Speaker 2: He looks like a kicker. He looks like every other kicker.
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  Speaker 2: As Matt Hasselbeck said, he looks like he belongs playing golf.
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: Right. I don't want to give ourselves credit, but coming
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: off the greatest game of the NFL season, the storyline
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: was the frumpy kicker. Everyone was thinking about it. No
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  Speaker 1: one wanted to discuss it. It's not something you should
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: talk about. We talked about a frumpy kicker and our
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: disdain for frumpy kickers to start the show. I love you.
• 2:02
  Speaker 3: But this feels like validation because I saw a clip
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  Speaker 3: from Ben Solak from ESPN where He basically highlighted what
• 2:10
  Speaker 3: he thought the projected trajectory of Mivas' kick was going
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: to be before it got blocked. That ball never had
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  Speaker 3: a chance to go in. That's not even me joking
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  Speaker 3: around saying that. And I think the Rams cutting him
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: is validation of the fact that they don't trust Harrison Mivas'
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  Speaker 3: process kicking the ball. Or else they wouldn't be moving
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  Speaker 3: on from him if they just thought... Okay, the operation
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  Speaker 3: was bad.
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: How about the Rams take care of their special teams issues?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they have this world-class team. They have this
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  Speaker 1: team that everyone thought might go undefeated. They have Hall
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: of Famers littered all over the field on offense and defense.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: How about you pay attention to the kicker, to the punter,
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  Speaker 1: to your special teams because it keeps costing them games?
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: How about that?
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  Speaker 4: Huh? Hmm? Just a thought. Fair.
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  Speaker 1: All three faces. Brian Anderson says, is good to join us.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Snead and McVay, they're so much smarter
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  Speaker 1: than us. No, they're not. They can't find a kicker.
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  Speaker 1: And they just went to the Jets practice squad to
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  Speaker 1: solve their problem. ridiculous. Tired of those guys.
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  Speaker 2: Blake group.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be all pro. He's going to be
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  Speaker 1: all pro and win a ring or two.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I really like the Rams are sitting at two and three.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm wondering like, do you guys think the Rams
• 3:24
  Speaker 3: are in trouble or would you still have them as
• 3:26
  Speaker 3: an NFC favorite? Because you're watching their defense, their defense
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  Speaker 3: just lacks like team speed where the Rams pass rushers had,
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  Speaker 3: had no lane discipline and, They're letting Josh Allen get
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  Speaker 3: out of the pocket as much as they did yesterday. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I get Miles Garrett's going to come back, and you're
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  Speaker 3: hoping that Miles Garrett covers up some of those problems
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  Speaker 3: on defense. But when I watch the Rams this season,
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  Speaker 3: I just come away feeling underwhelmed every game.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the Rams' next five games, okay? Look up
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  Speaker 1: the schedule, read the games to us, and tell us
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  Speaker 1: after you read the games if you think the Rams
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: are in trouble.
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  Speaker 3: So their next five games are Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers, Commanders,
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  Speaker 3: Cardinals again.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I have no questions if they're going to be able
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  Speaker 3: to beat those teams, but my questions come back to
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  Speaker 3: when they play the Bills, when they play the Broncos,
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  Speaker 3: when they play the Eagles, who they look pretty bad
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  Speaker 3: against the Eagles for three and a half quarters. This
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  Speaker 3: team doesn't look like the team that we were talking
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  Speaker 3: about in preseason saying, is it the Rams or the field?
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  Speaker 1: Mikey, you feel the same?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: It's not because they don't have Miles Garrett. And I
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  Speaker 2: realize you said you think he's going to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you hope he could cover up those issues. He was
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  Speaker 2: covering up a lot of issues for the Cleveland Browns
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  Speaker 2: for years. And not only do they not have Miles Garrett,
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  Speaker 2: but what they traded away to get him, they don't
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  Speaker 2: have him either. So they kind of took out a
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  Speaker 2: lot of their defense to get this one piece. And
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  Speaker 2: when that one piece isn't there, it's going.
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  Speaker 1: To be noticed.
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  Speaker 2: I imagine when Miles Garrett gets back and he's somewhat–
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  Speaker 2: you know, the player he was, I imagine that that
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  Speaker 2: defense is going to look a lot faster. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to look a lot better because quarterbacks are going to
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  Speaker 2: have to get the ball out a lot quicker because
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  Speaker 2: Miles Garrett is coming.
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  Speaker 1: I understand why Taylor is asking that question, though. I do.
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco's off to a 5-0 start. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: be hard to win that division. San Francisco's very good.
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  Speaker 1: Seattle's also in that division. I would expect, obviously, the
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  Speaker 1: divisional winner to get to the playoffs and two wildcard
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  Speaker 1: teams to come. from that division, and I think the Rams. So, Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: they might have to go into the playoffs in a
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  Speaker 1: way they were never expecting with a wild card spot.
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  Speaker 4: On the road.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but they don't sweat that. Stafford's not sweating that,
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  Speaker 1: you know?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Stafford's sweating it. I don't think,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Puka Nakua, Devontae Adams, any part of this
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  Speaker 3: Rams team is sweating it, but the fact that they
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  Speaker 3: would be going on the road to San Francisco or
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: going on the road to Seattle does make a difference
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  Speaker 3: in terms of their chances of getting to the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get to some baseball here, what'd you guys make?
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  Speaker 1: I got goosebumps. Before overtime, they had to flip the
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  Speaker 1: coin again. And Stafford was already out at center field
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  Speaker 1: at the 50-yard line on the logo. And Josh Allen
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  Speaker 1: starts strolling out, and man, does he ever stroll. That
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  Speaker 1: is the most confident stroll I have ever seen in
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  Speaker 1: my entire life. That's just a guy who strolls like
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  Speaker 1: he knows he's better than you are. That's the kind
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  Speaker 1: of stroll he has. But as they're getting closer to
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  Speaker 1: one another, They both start smiling at each other because
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  Speaker 1: they know what both of them are doing. They're having
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: a ridiculous game, a game for the ages, and they're
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  Speaker 1: both marveling at each other's talents. It was a cool moment.
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  Speaker 3: Stu, the thought I had when I saw those two
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  Speaker 3: walking out, it was mostly around Matthew Stafford, where I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: if Matthew Stafford didn't spend his first 12 years in Detroit,
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  Speaker 3: would Matthew Stafford be in the GOAT conversation with Tom
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  Speaker 3: Brady and Peyton Manning? Because I think there's a chance
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  Speaker 3: if he wasn't on that dead Detroit Lions team.
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  Speaker 1: Right. I mean, that had Calvin Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: He had the talent.
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  Speaker 1: He had the talent. He did.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, he had Calvin Johnson is such a cop-out answer.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't have anything else. He had a guy who
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: is a cheat code.
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  Speaker 2: I will grant you, Calvin Johnson is probably the second
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  Speaker 2: best wide receiver I've seen in my lifetime. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: catch too much of Jerry Rice.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson. But he was also running
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  Speaker 2: for his life behind a bad offensive line and having
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  Speaker 2: to put up 50 points behind.
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  Speaker 1: A bad defense. So, yes, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Taylor, if he's on probably 28 other organizations, we're probably
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  Speaker 2: talking about him in that conversation.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe.
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: Congratulations to Josh Allen for winning his first game in overtime.
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  Speaker 1: What took you so long? It's amazing to me.
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  Speaker 2: Kept changing the rules for him to win one.
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  Speaker 1: He finally got one.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: God, he makes that game look too easy. When he's right,
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  Speaker 1: when he's playing right, he's healthy, and he's playing the
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  Speaker 1: way he did last night against that defense and that
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  Speaker 1: team on the road. It was just fantastic to watch.
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to watch the game, trying to focus on
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  Speaker 1: the game, trying to focus on Stafford and Josh Allen
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  Speaker 1: going back and forth, and I'm getting texts from Mikey
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  Speaker 1: A because he's upset about something going on in the
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: Guardians Rays series. Brian Anderson, who's calling that series, is
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  Speaker 1: going to join us. In just a minute, what's going
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  Speaker 1: on with you, Mikey? You know what?
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  Speaker 2: I just watched the Guardians do to the Rays in
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  Speaker 2: one inning what it took three games for the Yankees
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  Speaker 2: to do, and that's like score a run. Like, just
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  Speaker 2: get a couple of hits.
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  Speaker 4: It was just, you know, it.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of brought back those feelings that I had as
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: soon as the Yankees got eliminated.
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  Speaker 1: And I just, it hurt my feelings.
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  Speaker 3: Stu, it is such a humbling spot to be in
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  Speaker 3: as a Yankee fan when you're seeing the Guardians out
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  Speaker 3: hit the Yankees over the course of a three-game series,
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  Speaker 3: what the Guardians were able to do in one game.
• 8:56
  Speaker 3: And then you switch over to the Brewers-Dodgers game, and
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  Speaker 3: they're talking about Brewer ball on the broadcasts. And Derek
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: Jeter is praising why Brewer Ball works. And you're just
• 9:06
  Speaker 3: listening to him describe what Brewer Ball is. It's just
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: playing small ball and playing good defense. That's all people
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: are asking for.
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  Speaker 1: That's what Jeter did, though.
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  Speaker 3: Jeter, like, he's not meant, he's just like, you could
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  Speaker 3: hear in Jeter's points, he's praising the Brewers.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But what Jeter is really saying, like, if you had
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: a Jeter translation.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't mention the Yankees once, but a Jeter translation,
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  Speaker 3: I speak Derek Jeter. All he's saying is how bad
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  Speaker 3: the Yankees are.
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  Speaker 1: Is that all he's saying?
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  Speaker 3: That's our captain giving the subliminal message saying, hey, I
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: know I'm saying the Brewers right now and praising how
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: good the Brewers are, but what you really have to
• 9:49
  Speaker 3: listen for is me saying this is the complete opposite
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  Speaker 3: way that the Yankees build their team and how the
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: Yankees look in October when I'm telling you what works
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  Speaker 3: in October and what doesn't work in October.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: But what worked for Jeter in October was the fact
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: that the Yankees were spending more money than everyone else, right?
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  Speaker 1: We had the core four. You guys aren't going to
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: get past this, are you?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: And, like, we're still waiting for Aaron Boone and Brian
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  Speaker 3: Cashman to say anything.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to give us excuses for why they crash
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  Speaker 3: out of the playoffs. What, are you just waiting to
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  Speaker 3: see if the Rays win? And then you could come
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: on your soapbox and tell us, oh, the Rays, like,
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  Speaker 3: look at this Rays team we lost to. The Rays
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: are playing in the World Series. That could have been
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: us if we got a couple different bounces in a
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: three-game sweep where we were never even competitive.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, but I just figured, at least for Mikey, that
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Matthew Stafford were getting past the Yankees, like,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: just for a night.
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when I sent that text, it was like the
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: second inning, and it was like a 3-0 game or
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: something like that. It wasn't until the fourth quarter that
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: things took off, and I did forget. I did forget
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  Speaker 2: for a little while. Thank you, Josh Allen and Matthew Stafford,
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  Speaker 2: for that, for making me forget about the Yankees for
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: 20 minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Taylor is right. Maybe the Rams won't make
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, when you're going to the Jets
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: practice squad to solve your kicking problem, there's a problem.
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: Brian Anderson, voice of the ALCS, joins us next. He
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: is doing play-by-play for the ALCS for TBS. Pre-game coverage
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: of the ALCS Game 2 starts tonight, 7 p.m. on TBS, TruTV,
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: and HBO Max, followed by first pitch of Guardians Rays
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: at 8 p.m. Brian Anderson is with us right now.
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  Speaker 1: He is insanely jealous of Mikey A's Expos hat. What
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: is going on there? It was an odd introduction. You
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: just wanted to talk about Mikey's Montreal Expo hat.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that is like... That just brings me back
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: to some childhood trauma of never getting a Montreal Expos
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: hat when I was a kid and always wanting one.
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: So now, I mean, back in the day when you'd
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: come on as a guest, they'd give you like a
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: 13-inch black and white television. Can we just say that
• 12:10
  Speaker 4: we'll just get a Montreal Expos hat? And if it
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: was right off Mike's head, that would be great, actually.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, if you want to send me the money, I'll
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: send it to you.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait. No, no, Mike.
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: I just want you to wait by the mailbox again.
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  Speaker 4: I just noticed, by the way, can you tell I'm
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: in St. Petersburg by the drapes in the room in
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  Speaker 4: the hotel? Matter of fact, these were put up the
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: year I tried to get the Montreal Expos hat. when
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  Speaker 4: I was eight years old in 1980.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, so what happened to the Expo hat? Why did
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: you never get it?
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  Speaker 4: Never got it. I was told many years later as
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  Speaker 4: a full-grown adult when I could handle it, my mom
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  Speaker 4: revealed that she canceled the order. She only told me
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: that Um, it was like the Christmas story, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the whole oval team drink, more oval team. That's what's
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  Speaker 4: the basic scene. I was waiting for an expose, had
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  Speaker 4: mom canceled the order and then told me 30 years
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  Speaker 4: later that, um, It's because I went to the mailbox every.
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  Speaker 1: Day for like six months.
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  Speaker 4: Open the mailbox. Not here yet. Mom's like, Oh, that's amazing.
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: You know how the U S postal system is. I
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: got no idea how the U S post, but I
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: never trusted the post office after that for years. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good looking hat though. Dang it.
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  Speaker 3: Brian, I don't want to add anything unnecessary to your plate,
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  Speaker 3: but I have a pitch for you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It's a new game show called Name Those Drapes, where
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: you see drapes in a hotel, and then you have
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  Speaker 3: to say what city the drapes are in.
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  Speaker 4: That's right. Yes, I love it. No, I mean, that
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  Speaker 4: would be a good, because I do a lot of
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  Speaker 4: these from hotels.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I get comments about the drapes, where
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: maybe I should position myself differently. But yeah, I think
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: the drapes are kind of, I think that's what you
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: guys should go for maybe when you have an interview
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  Speaker 4: with a person from Florida. You have a Florida motif
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  Speaker 4: behind you on a green screen.
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  Speaker 1: Taylor, that is the $ 100 question.
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  Speaker 4: Those drapes, I mean, that's.
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  Speaker 1: The easy one.
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  Speaker 4: St.
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  Speaker 1: Pete's, yeah. No, I would guess St. Pete. That would
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  Speaker 1: be my first guess.
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  Speaker 2: It's coming out of the drapes.
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: I'll see the benefits of having video on this stuff.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Uh what do you say to people who say the
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: dodgers are bad for baseball brian.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no no everything's good for everything i'm i'm more
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  Speaker 4: on the the wwe side of things whatever it is
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  Speaker 4: like it's all good whether they're the villains or whether
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: you know you've got the upstart brewers the little engine
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  Speaker 4: that could that's all good it's all good i don't
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  Speaker 4: think the dodgers are bad for baseball at all i
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  Speaker 4: don't agree with that and believe that. And I got
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  Speaker 4: a lot of friends over there and they do it right, man.
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  Speaker 4: They spend, they spend money. They're not afraid. They take
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: care of their fans with, with elite talent up and
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: down their lineup and on their pitching staff. And, you know,
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: they got 55, 57,000 seats to sell every game at
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: Dodger stadium. So, and there's a lot going on in
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Los Angeles. So you got to run your business the
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: way you run it. And I got no problems with
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: any of that.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Brian, me and Mikey A are two depressed Yankee fans,
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: and I saw this stat yesterday that made me even
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: more depressed, where the Guardians had 14 hits in their
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Game 1 win versus Drew Rasmussen in the Rays. The
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Yankees had 12 total hits and never had the lead
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: in three games in the ALDS versus the Rays. How
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: surprised are you that the Yankees didn't make it to
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: the ALCS?
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm not.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: Tampa Bay, by far, best team in the American League.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: They outclassed the Yankees even before the series. I didn't
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: want to get passive-aggressive on the air last night, but
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: the Guardians, more than any team, exposed the faults of
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: the Yankees, the way they approached the game. The Yankees...
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: just aren't there. You know, they're not there yet. And
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: they've got a long way to go. And obviously, again,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: they don't have Stan. They don't have Judge. That changes everything.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: They pitched a good chunk of the season without Rodon.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Good chunk of the season. Or at least a window
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: of the season with Cole coming back from Tommy John
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: and Max Breed out. And they still, you know, won
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: over 90 games. Like, they're a success story in the
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: regular season. But, boy, their roster was a wreck. in
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: the post season. And it kind of reminded me when
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: they played the Astros in the LCS, got swept by Houston.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: That's what the vibe was. You know, they knew they
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: were good enough to be in the post season, but
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: I don't, I don't think they were even close to
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: being good enough to make a run in the postseason.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: And the Rays expose every weakness because Tampa Bay plays
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: the game in the way you're supposed to. And then
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: you show up and you see how Cleveland kind of
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: game-planned against the Rays. And as I said, I think
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: it really exposed the Yankees' deficiencies even more.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Brian, if I told you way back when, I think
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: it was 91, you were interning for the San Antonio Spurs,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: that one day you would be the play-by-play voice of
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: the ALCS, you would have told me what?
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: That would have been laughable. Laughable. I mean, I started
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: as a handheld cameraman, and I played college baseball, so
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: I always had this notion that I thought I could Honestly,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: my brother was was he played in the big leagues briefly,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: but he came up through the minor leagues and I
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: would go visit him. So I was still playing in
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: high school and college. So I would go spend weeks
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: at a time in the summers, wherever he was. And
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: my brother's still in the game, Mike. He's a scout
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: with the Rangers. Matter of fact, you guys will remember,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: it was a famous game in baseball history. Mark Whitten
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: hit four homers in that 12 RBIs. Do you remember
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: that game?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: So my brother gave up the middle two homers in
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: that game. That was his major league debut. But he
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: made it. And he signed out of a tryout camp
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: and he made it. So as I was kind of
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: thinking about my life. I knew I wasn't going to
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: be good enough to play professionally. I was a scholarship
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: athlete at a small college in San Antonio. I was
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: working for the Spurs. And I started just kind of
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: attaching myself to these radio broadcasters wherever they were in
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: my brother's teams, Greensboro and Chattanooga and Indianapolis. And I
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: kind of was like, I think I can do that.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: You know, I had no formal training. I didn't I
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: was an English major. I didn't have any broadcasting journal.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't have made it five minutes in the new
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: house school. Let's put it that way. So I didn't
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: know what I didn't know. And I just started, I
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: kind of got my job calling minor league baseball. because
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: I could throw batting practice. And I threw the first
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: group of BP for five years with the double-A Dodgers,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: and I caught bullpens. That was basically why they brought
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: me on. Like, yeah, he can kind of do all
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: this bullshit work, and we'll give him the middle three innings,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: you know?
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, all right.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: So that was kind of my path, and I was
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: terrible when I first started. But no, in those 1991, like,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: there's no way, no way I would have, ever have
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: dreamed any of this. But, you know, I did play
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: all the sports, and I just never said no. They said,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: you want to do soccer? You want to do baseball, golf?
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: I just said, sure, I'll give it a try.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the series, but first,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: just kind of a macro question. As somebody who's been
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: around the game, and whose family has been around the
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: game for so long, do you think it's gotten too
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: analytics dependent? Do you think it's all about launch angle
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and exit velocity as opposed to just I can see
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: that guy can play?
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: No. Maybe, but I do think the game's cyclical. So
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I think we were in the wave of three true outcomes,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: and now we're kind of moving away from that. So
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: I would say the team I work for throughout the year,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: the Brewers, they're as analytics-driven as any team. However, there's
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: a pretty... distinct dividing line and i would say the
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: same for the guardians and kevin cash here with with
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: the rays that there there is now a pretty strict
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: dividing line on all the information you get in the
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: matchups and the percentages and what what probabilities show favor
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: versus what actually happens and so i think in the
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: last couple of years especially with my team the brewers
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: That's why Pat Murphy's been the perfect guy. You've got
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: to have somebody sifting all that information and knowledge. It
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: was debilitating players in the three true outcomes because they're
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: trying to get paid. Their motivation was Players are getting
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: paid off of these numbers, off of the on-base percentage,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: which means walks and homers, and strikeouts weren't coming against you.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Pitchers are getting paid off strikeouts and swing and miss, chase.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: So like the old school pitcher that just felt his
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: way through a game and the ball was in play,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: then you add, okay, if the ball is going to
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: be in play, we need better athletes. They killed the shift.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: So now the athletes came back in the game, and
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: now there's great value in it. catchers and elite second
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: baseman who can feel their position and shortstops and centerfielders.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: And we were kind of morphing back to what we were,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: what the game was, you know, that I fell in
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: love with in the eighties and nineties, kind of the
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: way the game's been played forever. So I guess to
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: answer your question, it was, I think it was, Those
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: voices were very strong and they had a huge stranglehold
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: on the game. And now I think it's starting to
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: move the other way because results are showing these owners
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: who are making these hires that there's got to be
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: a zig or a zag when you're coming off the
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: next wave. And I think that's where the game will change.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: And I think we're kind of getting back to that.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Brian, you look at the Guardians, their last four games,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: they've won all four. Could you make the argument that
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Jose Ramirez, who's been the catalyst for them as their
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: superstar during this run, is the most underrated baseball player
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: of this generation?
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yes, I do. He's going to have a statue.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: He's going to be in the Hall of Fame. He's
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: going to be one of the all-time great players, and
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I still think when Fans in 30 years go to
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame and they go, who's Jose Ramirez? Wow.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Look at these numbers. So I do think it's going
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: to be a little bit of that. You know, I
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: would say kind of there's a outside of the Tom
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Lomansky videos, you know, Fred McGriff was kind of that
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: guy where he just put up numbers every year. You know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: it's like, damn, what a great player. But the difference now,
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: what I've seen in the last four games, obviously, but
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: really since the trade deadline, is Ramirez has real dudes
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: around him. And De Lauder is a real factor that
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: showed up specifically in the game in game one last
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: night where Cash did not walk Jose Ramirez, which was
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: an automatic in any other era with Guardians baseball. He didn't, though,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: because De Lauder's been so good. Ramirez got the job done,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: drove in the run. And then they went out and
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: they got Joe Adele, you know, from the angels, um,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: They got Nathaniel Lowe, even the starter yesterday, Foster Griffin.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: So they Patrick Bailey came in May. Literally, that was
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: the Chris Antonetti game yesterday. Rarely does a general manager
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: have the satisfaction of watching all of his acquisitions deliver
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: in one game.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: And they all did. And so but that that's, you know,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Ramirez is the guy and now he's got pieces around him.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Brian Anderson with us. He is on the ALCS. He
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: is calling it game two tonight, 7 p.m. on TBS, TruTV,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and HBO Max. I feel like the Guardians, I know
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the Rays are good, Brian. I feel like the Guardians
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: are going to be tough to beat. When you're down 0-2,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: you kind of get through that. You win three straight,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: beat the White Sox, move on. It galvanizes a team
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: in a locker room. What do you think about what
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: it is I'm saying? They're going to be a tough
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: out the rest of the way here.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the series definitely flipped with that game last night.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: They beat the Rays ace. You know, well, I mean,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Rasmussen pitched well, but they got them. You know, they
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: won the game that they raised and a fully rested bullpen,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: which Kevin Cash didn't deploy because they got down in
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: the game. But I will say there is some concern
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: with the Guardians, with Parker Messick. You know, they're kind
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: of lined up on paper. Messick can get some rookie
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: of the year votes. He's pitching game two tonight. But,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: you know, he's in an innings limit. He's never been.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: And he pitched two and a third in game four. Like,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: they are definitely concerned and will watch this. His pitch profile,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: all the under-the-hood stuff, like when they feel like fatigue
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: is setting in. But he's had a long year, high-stress pitches.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: John Smoltz always told me that pitching in the playoffs,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: one pitch is like three. And so I think that's
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: a real factor, even though Messick and William, Gavin Williams,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: are set up the next two games. It looks great
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: for the Guardians, but... I think this is going to
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: be a really good series. I still think Tampa Bay
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: is heavily favored. They're better in a lot of ways,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: but the Guardians find a way, man. They do, and
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: they're a real team. They put incredible pressure on to
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: take extra bases and steal bases, so this is going
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: to be a really good series with two teams that
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: are kind of peaking right now, which is great for
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: us on television.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Brian, Joey Otani in his last 24 games, dating back
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: to August 19th, is batting 157 with zero home runs
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: and one RBI.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: He stinks.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: And now the conversation with the Dodgers is they might
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: bench Otani because he might be too hurt out there
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: to continue with them now down 2-0 in this series.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: What would you do if you were the Dodgers?
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not benching Otani under no circumstances. I'm
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: not sure where that's coming from. I can't imagine that
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: is coming from anybody inside the Dodgers camp. To me,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: that feels like a scout or some scouts or some
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: baseball personnel kind of dropping that to some of the
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: media there. I mean, just go look at last year.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: We did the Dodgers Brewers. We had the National League
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: last year with TBS, remember? So he didn't do a thing.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: in the first three games of that series. He was
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: just there. He was a presence, all of that. But
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: my Lord, then he had the greatest game ever played
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: in the history of this game and won the MVP
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: of the NLCS. He pitched six innings. He struck out 10.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: He had three homers. It's like he's always got that
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: in him. I am not buying that. I don't think
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: the Brewers are buying that. And if he's bad, I
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: do think pitching has really tapped into his resources. It's
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: hard to pitch and hit in the big leagues that's
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: why it's never been done he really made up his
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: mind he wanted to try to win a Cy Young
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: award this year and he was on a pace to
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: do that but then the body kind of failed him
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: you know he's in his 30s now too it's not
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: like he's got mileage you know before even he's been
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: in the big leagues a long time and then he
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: had a whole run where he was the guy in
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Japan through high school you know how big high school
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: baseball is in japan it's literally like march madness those
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: guys still like 190 pitches a game there so he
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: had all that he then had all of his japanese
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: professional league run and then he came to major league
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: baseball so there's a lot of mileage on that body
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: and hey it catches up with everyone but i'm not
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: counting him in no way No way.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I know you're working, but is it tricky? Is it
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: difficult being away from your team, the Brewers, as they
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: go through the NLCS here now?
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: No, not at all. I don't mind it. I'd rather
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: not call the Brewers in the playoffs.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: So it's kind of fun just being on this side
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: of it, you know, just to be able to do
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: our game, come back, watch the Brewers or, you know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: we were watching in the booth yesterday before our game started.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: And then you can just kind of be a fan
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: and do all those fan things and you know, talk
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: about the game like a fan. When you're doing the game,
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: I know it's hard for fans to understand, and I
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: get it, but when you're doing the game, you don't
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: think that way. It's very assembly line oriented. You're just,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: what's the next element? What's the next pitch? What is
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: the play? Call that right. Tee up your analyst, get
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: to the graphic, get to the promo, all that stuff.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: And you do that over and over for 18 half innings.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: So you're not thinking about your fandom or being with
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: the team. And I know fans love like to call
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: out me and Joe Davis and boo Shambi when he
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: was doing the Cubs in the playoffs. It just, it
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: doesn't work like that. I promise it doesn't work like that.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: So it's actually easier for me and fun and, I
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: get to get on the text and chop it up
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: with all my friends and the people I work with. And,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: you know, we're like fans, right? What are they doing?
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: So I actually enjoy it a lot more. But if
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: I do the Brewers, I've done them three times in
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: the postseason. You just you do the job. You know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: you're you're you're putting the engine in the car. So
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: you're not thinking about how it's going to run.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: So as a fan, you have the Brewers in four, right? Sweep? Yeah.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: A hundred percent. Yeah. They need to bench Ohtani right now.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: They should bench Ohtani, right?
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: They should bench the whole team, actually. I mean, just
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: like forfeit.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: You're texting your friends. Yamamoto stinks. Come on.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Like, I can't tell you every day. My phone is
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: on fire. People want World Series tickets. They haven't had
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: a World Series since 1982.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Let's get there.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: 1982, man. So like the possibility of having a World
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Series in Milwaukee. And I know the Packers are big.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, but. There's nothing bigger than a
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: World Series in Milwaukee to cheesers, not even the Packers.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Trust me, it's going to be wild if they make it.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: All right, man. We enjoyed our time here with you.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Pre-game coverage of the ALCS game two starts tonight, 7 p.m.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: on TBS, TruTV and HBO Max, followed by first pitch
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: of Guardians Rays at 8 o'clock. Brian Anderson will be
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: on the call of that game. We appreciate the time.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: We love the drapes. Taylor's on to a good idea
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: there with that game. You can host it because you're
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: not busy enough. He's hiding behind the old drapes right now.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: They have a musty, like a musky smell, right? Oh,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: it's bad.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: These drapes can talk.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: That's our tagline.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: That's our show tagline.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: We look forward to the call tonight and we hope
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: to do this again soon. We appreciate it, man.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man. Love you guys. Appreciate you having me. I'll
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: be checking the mailbox for that.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: We're going to get on this. We're going to get
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: you one, okay? We promise you.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Come on, Mike. That looks like a size 8, too.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: It is an 8.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: It is absolutely an 8.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I can see that from a mile away. That's a
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: massive ring around that dome. Nice.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: He's got a melon. We'll send you a smaller one.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Please. 7 and an 8. Pinhead.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Brian. Have a good call tonight. We look
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: forward to the game. See you.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir.