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Best of Chuck & Buck 11-12 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Some time.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, class leads and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 2: Inducing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former high
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  Speaker 2: school basketball stand What the hell.
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  Speaker 3: Does that mean? Don't jumped any conclusions. No, not a god,
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  Speaker 3: You've got to lower lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 2: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes and former I'll just
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  Speaker 4: openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped X athlete.
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  Speaker 3: Now there's been a noticeable spike here your blood pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Five seven guard and a former college water polo national champion.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of useless crap up here.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan, brought to you by to Lada Casino Resort
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  Speaker 2: and quilsee the Creek Draftking sports book where the action
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  Speaker 2: never stopped there you go.
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  Speaker 6: Well, good Wednesday morning to you.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome into the radio show that people call Chuck and
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  Speaker 3: Buck in the Morning. Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 3: KJR FM. The good people, the good people of Seattle
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  Speaker 3: and beyond. They call it Chuck and Buck in the Morning,
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  Speaker 3: so you can't stop them from doing it. Really, my
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  Speaker 3: name is Chuck Powell. Bucky Jacobson is here, Ashley Ryan
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  Speaker 3: as well. Happy hump Day to you all. That's right,
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  Speaker 3: we've made it to Wednesday here of this week, and
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  Speaker 3: hump Day is the day worth celebrating, worth getting ready
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  Speaker 3: for the biggest Seahawks game of the year, which is
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  Speaker 3: coming up this Sunday against the Los Angeles Rams, and
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  Speaker 3: we certainly will spend a lot of time on it.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe not to start the show, but we will spend
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  Speaker 3: a devote a lot of time to it. Here on
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  Speaker 3: today's program. Let's check the health and wealth of the
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  Speaker 3: members of the program. How's your knee better? Better?
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  Speaker 4: Still gimping around a little bit. I guess it's part
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  Speaker 4: of the process. Talk to the folks over there at
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  Speaker 4: Pinnacle yesterday and there, yep, yeah, we shot you with
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  Speaker 4: a little more ozone. I think it's different than the
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  Speaker 4: thing that keeps some of the sun's bad rays out.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it is nailed yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's correct.
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  Speaker 4: They grabbed some of that and shot at my knee.
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  Speaker 7: Well because already so they're like, well, we don't need
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  Speaker 7: this anymore because we're going to make a fake ozone.
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  Speaker 5: So let's figure out a use for the one we've got,
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  Speaker 5: and you.
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  Speaker 3: Should probably not use hairspray anymore.
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  Speaker 5: You probably please not aerosol.
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  Speaker 3: It'll deteriorate the shot your knee.
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  Speaker 4: Well, good thing is it's been a minute since I've
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  Speaker 4: used hairspray, so yeah, it's been a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Well you spend around cows with gas though, because
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  Speaker 7: that can also.
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  Speaker 3: Be oh oh yeah cows. Yeah. Uh well, at least
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  Speaker 3: it's the ozone layer that was put into your knee,
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  Speaker 3: not the marine layer. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to
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  Speaker 3: do anything very heavy.
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  Speaker 4: Everything would be would fall short.
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  Speaker 3: Everything would bog down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, in your life, but then I'd be on par
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  Speaker 4: with a lot of other people. I'd have something to
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  Speaker 4: complain about when it comes to marine.
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  Speaker 7: There, you reached moments where you thought you were going
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  Speaker 7: to hit peak excitement, but then right before it nothing. Oh.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what they're down. I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: they're doing with medicine these days. But man, if they
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  Speaker 3: shot the atmosphere into your knee, no under, it hurts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, Yeah, there's a lot to shoot in there.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like they may be shot too much in there.
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  Speaker 5: It's a lot for you to take on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know as yes, it's so what doesn't
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  Speaker 4: kill you makes you stronger, So I'm hoping it makes
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  Speaker 4: me stronger.
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  Speaker 3: You're not any normal person.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not exactly, not your run of the mill.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly right. So keep it coming, keep on your
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  Speaker 3: keep it coming, ozone.
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  Speaker 5: Keep on keeping on.
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  Speaker 3: Can't bring our guy down no matter how hard you
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  Speaker 3: uh well, astulely. Both your knees are all right, feeling.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're both there. They're both ozone free. And I
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  Speaker 5: did not one.
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 7: I double checked too, because when I hopped out of
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  Speaker 7: bed this morning and I was like, wait a minute, why.
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  Speaker 3: Did I put my pants on one leg at a time?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I was like, are they both there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Few they are, okay.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I am one of
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  Speaker 3: those that refuses to put my pants on one leg
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  Speaker 3: at a time, So I jump into them just so
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  Speaker 3: people can't say that I do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that you're not like everyone exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I'm better than that.
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  Speaker 4: I right now barely put my pants on. That's another story.
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  Speaker 5: And are they shorts?
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  Speaker 9: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Now, I kind of want to know what that story.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have somebody else that puts your pants on
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  Speaker 3: for you.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's just right now. Because my knee doesn't bend, gotch,
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  Speaker 4: it's very hard to get them on. Okay, so I
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  Speaker 4: have to like lassle it around my left. You have
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  Speaker 4: a Belgian mallin wall. They're very smart. You're probably a
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  Speaker 4: good teacher how to put your pants on?
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  Speaker 3: Pants on? Great?
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  Speaker 5: I try to teach my dog.
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  Speaker 7: You'd just go stand on the pants and roll around
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  Speaker 7: and make me scratch his belly.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Well, good morning to you. Welcome into our silliness.
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  Speaker 3: It is Chuck Buck and Ashley with you here on
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  Speaker 3: this Wednesday. And yes, I know a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: have Seahawks on the brain, and we're gonna talk a
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  Speaker 3: lot of Seahawks football today, get ready for the biggest
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  Speaker 3: game of the year on a hump day to date anyway,
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  Speaker 3: But I think we haven't talked. We haven't led with
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  Speaker 3: baseball in a while since you know what happened. And
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  Speaker 3: I think maybe this is worth leading with because there's
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  Speaker 3: a topic here that I've been trying to get into
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  Speaker 3: with Bucky and we just haven't had time to do it.
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  Speaker 3: We've rushed through it a couple of times. But I
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  Speaker 3: do believe that there's a topic here that yesterday's news
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  Speaker 3: will lead us into. But let us start with yesterday's news.
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  Speaker 3: Dan Wilson did not win American League Manager of the
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  Speaker 3: Year last night. He ended up finishing third in the voting.
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  Speaker 3: Steven Vote won the vote and for the second year
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  Speaker 3: in a row, and then second place went to John
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  Speaker 3: Schneider and Dan finished third. And I think that I
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  Speaker 3: think I think Dan, deep in his heart, kind of likes.
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  Speaker 6: That that's that's good.
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  Speaker 3: My first year as a manager, and I finished third
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  Speaker 3: manager of the year voting, So I think that that's
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  Speaker 3: an accomplishment in and of itself. I didn't expect him
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  Speaker 3: to win the award. I don't think any of us
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  Speaker 3: expected him to win the award, But not bad for
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  Speaker 3: your first time out third place finish. At least those
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  Speaker 3: nationally that write about baseball for a living are recognizing
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  Speaker 3: that you did some good things this year. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it was about where it
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  Speaker 4: probably should be. Where I think there was what five
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  Speaker 4: folks that ended up getting votes. Obviously there was only
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  Speaker 4: the three that were in the finals, and I think
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  Speaker 4: that Dan probably deserved to be third. Where I mean
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking more so Schneider. But I have a
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  Speaker 4: hard time not putting personal what I've seen, and I've
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  Speaker 4: seen more. I saw more of the Blue Jays. It
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  Speaker 4: was in the postseason. I know that's after the fact,
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  Speaker 4: but the fact that they had more games. I was
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  Speaker 4: thinking that's where the voters would land, they had won
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  Speaker 4: more regular season games. But then you try to put
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  Speaker 4: all the other stuff into the mix that they're probably
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  Speaker 4: thinking about or should be thinking about, which what'd you
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  Speaker 4: do and what you go through and all of the
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  Speaker 4: stuff that vote went through from you know, losing your
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  Speaker 4: closer and they traded bieber away when he was getting
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  Speaker 4: ready to be healthy to the Toronto Blue Jays, and
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  Speaker 4: then the comeback that they had at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the year to come up and sniper their division I
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  Speaker 4: think was impressive and so I mean, very deserving. I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't have been mad if anybody had wonted, right, It's
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  Speaker 4: not like no, our guy was clear cut the guy
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  Speaker 4: that should have won, period, Like I think about another award,
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  Speaker 4: but I do think that it was kudos to him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: first year as a full time manager, and you did
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  Speaker 4: some good things and it was recognized.
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  Speaker 3: It really is, and I think it needs to be
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  Speaker 3: pointed out, it really is an exercise, and you brought
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  Speaker 3: this up yesterday. I think it's a great point is
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  Speaker 3: that I probably am holding. I mean, if anybody thought, oh,
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  Speaker 3: Seattle's going to back Seattle, right. I didn't give Dan
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  Speaker 3: Wilson very high grades this year, not for his ex
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  Speaker 3: as and O's, but I think I went out of
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  Speaker 3: my way to say how valuable he is in many
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  Speaker 3: other areas as a manager to this baseball team, which
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  Speaker 3: we're going to get into here in a moment. But
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  Speaker 3: so I didn't have him winning. I wouldn't even have
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  Speaker 3: named him Top three, frankly, but I did watch so
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  Speaker 3: much more on almost every decision that Dan Wilson made,
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  Speaker 3: and so maybe where Bucky saw the overexposure, saw all
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  Speaker 3: the good things in Dan and never got to see
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  Speaker 3: them in the other candidates, I might have saw more
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  Speaker 3: failures that Dan from Dan's perspective, and maybe I held
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  Speaker 3: that against him. So really it does come down to this.
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  Speaker 3: It's a it's it's baseball riders from across your league
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  Speaker 3: who see you for a handful of games, and what
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  Speaker 3: the award Manager of the Year comes down to is
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  Speaker 3: who they believe as a collective got the most out
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  Speaker 3: of their team based off of the talent that they
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  Speaker 3: were given by management and ownership, and then hurdles they
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  Speaker 3: overcame during the course of the year to achieve whatever
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  Speaker 3: it is that they achieved. And so I think a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people saw the Seattle Mariners as being a
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  Speaker 3: good team going into the year with a chance at
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  Speaker 3: winning the division. The fact that they won the division,
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  Speaker 3: I think nationally, Dan Wilson got some credit for that,
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  Speaker 3: and maybe a little bit of credit that he didn't
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  Speaker 3: quite deserve, because I don't think that they overachieved as
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  Speaker 3: a baseball team under his guidance this year, where I
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  Speaker 3: think maybe Toronto did. I think maybe Alex Cora and
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  Speaker 3: Steven Vote overcame a lot of hurdles that maybe Dan
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  Speaker 3: didn't have to overcome. And I think that that's why
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  Speaker 3: I would probably personally lean toward those guys, even though
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  Speaker 3: I didn't watch the manage nearly as much as what
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  Speaker 3: I did Dan Wilson this year. And so I think
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  Speaker 3: that's what the national collective is telling you is that
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  Speaker 3: here's Steven Vote, who operates with a much smaller payroll
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  Speaker 3: than the other winners in Major League Baseball. He overcame
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  Speaker 3: obstacles like a gambling scandal and everything else. This year,
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  Speaker 3: he dragged his team out of the depths of despair
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  Speaker 3: and rallied to chase down the Detroit Tigers and win
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  Speaker 3: the division. Again. He gets my vote. Now, there was
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  Speaker 3: also part of that is his team couldn't score a
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  Speaker 3: run for a month and a half. There's a reason
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  Speaker 3: why they dug a hole for themselves. And it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: just because Emmanuel Classe likes to throw pitches, and I
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  Speaker 3: mean throw pitches in another sense. And also the Tigers
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  Speaker 3: did all of them a lot of favors by crumbling
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  Speaker 3: and falling apart themselves, which Cleveland had nothing to do with.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't have a problem with him winning the award.
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  Speaker 3: I do recognize the hurdles that he overcame, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that he is an excellent young manager and he's
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  Speaker 3: only forty one and he's already won Ashley back to
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  Speaker 3: back Manager of the Year wars.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he definitely is deserving.
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  Speaker 7: I did hear an argument though today that was like, well,
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  Speaker 7: could a manager or should somebody win Manager of the
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  Speaker 7: Year twice in a row, because when you think about that,
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  Speaker 7: you did enough to win it last year. That means
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  Speaker 7: you've got a pretty good situation going now right where
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  Speaker 7: your season's leaving on because you just went Manager of
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  Speaker 7: the Year. So you guys are in a good situation.
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  Speaker 7: Then you come back, well, now if you do it
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  Speaker 7: all over again, were you really worthy of Manager.
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  Speaker 1: Of the Year?
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  Speaker 7: Which I could understand that argument just looking at it,
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  Speaker 7: but looking at his situation and as you mentioned, the
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  Speaker 7: things he actually had to go through, it wasn't like
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  Speaker 7: he just started off with the same team he had
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  Speaker 7: last year and went through the season and had success.
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  Speaker 3: I actually like that about what the vote went. That
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  Speaker 3: voters didn't use that against Steven vote. I think that
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  Speaker 3: happens far too frequently. I don't think I mean, Phil
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  Speaker 3: Jackson hardly ever got recognized as in the postseason awards
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  Speaker 3: because you've got Michael Jordan. That's not now. Phil Jackson
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  Speaker 3: was masterful and should have won five, six, seven Coach
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  Speaker 3: of the Year awards. Joe Tory should have won Manager
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  Speaker 3: of the Year awards. I mean he had to manage
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  Speaker 3: a Rod and Jeter and all of these huge personalities
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  Speaker 3: in one year after year. I think I think that
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  Speaker 3: sometimes these voters put hurdles in front of them, like like, well,
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  Speaker 3: they have too much going for them, or he won
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  Speaker 3: it last year, we got to go with somebody else
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  Speaker 3: this year. I wish they wouldn't do that. So that
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  Speaker 3: was actually the one thing that I liked about the
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  Speaker 3: vote last night. Both American League and National League Managers
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  Speaker 3: of the Year repeated last night, and I like that
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  Speaker 3: the voters didn't let get in the way. I voted
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  Speaker 3: for him last year, I can't possibly vote for him
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  Speaker 3: this year. No, do you believe he was the best manager?
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  Speaker 3: Do you believe he got the most out of his team?
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  Speaker 3: And if you think it's the same damn guy, then
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  Speaker 3: vote for the same damn guy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I can see that. To me, it'd
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  Speaker 4: be like, I mean, the full extent of that where
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  Speaker 4: Ashley's talking about, would be like, what would you feel
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  Speaker 4: like if they gave Dave Roberts the Manager of the
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  Speaker 4: Year considering how stacked that team is, right, It'd be like,
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  Speaker 4: come on right? Yeah, So that's the full extent or
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  Speaker 4: the extreme on that side. On the other side, it's
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  Speaker 4: I think part of what goes into it when you're
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  Speaker 4: talking about what do they have and what did he do?
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  Speaker 4: What did he make with what he had? I think
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  Speaker 4: part of that goes into Okay, well, how much money
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  Speaker 4: do they spend?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Where are they at when it comes to that. That's
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  Speaker 4: where if I do think of the Mariners, where I
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  Speaker 4: don't think they overachieved necessarily. I don't necessarily think they
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  Speaker 4: underachieved simply because if you look at what achieved, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they achieved. They they did what I thought that they
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  Speaker 4: were going to do. I mean, maybe they were a
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  Speaker 4: few games short of whatever my prediction was, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: pretty optimistic when it comes to picking. I think ninety
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  Speaker 4: four wins or something that I said for them, but
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  Speaker 4: they're right there and yet to me, it's like, when
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  Speaker 4: you look at this roster, I don't think of it
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  Speaker 4: as as low as what the actual pay is, simply
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  Speaker 4: because you have a bunch of guys pitching staff in particular,
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  Speaker 4: that are pitching like twenty million dollars a year, thirty
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  Speaker 4: forty million dollars a year pitchers, and yet they're not
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  Speaker 4: making that money yet, you know. So to me, that's
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  Speaker 4: us knowing the roster. Whereas you know when it comes
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  Speaker 4: to Cleveland, and Cleveland's down there, I mean, they're way
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  Speaker 4: towards the bottom of what they spend on their roster
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  Speaker 4: and yet to go out there and find a way
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  Speaker 4: after you dug yourself a hole, you dug yourself the hole.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you didn't play well, and Detroit played exceptionally well,
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  Speaker 4: but when they crumbled down the stretch, you did everything
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  Speaker 4: you needed to do at that point in time. And
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  Speaker 4: that's getting hot at the right time. Like we talked
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  Speaker 4: about a little bit yesterday in regards to the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: I think there's something that the manager has about that
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  Speaker 4: has to do with that. Like, hey, guys, look how
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  Speaker 4: far behind we are right now, fifteen games or whatever
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  Speaker 4: it was. We're fifteen games back of these guys. It
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  Speaker 4: doesn't matter. Let's go win today and make it fourteen.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go win today and make it thirteen and just
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  Speaker 4: take care of your own business. And I think that
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  Speaker 4: he's I mean, to be two years into your managing
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  Speaker 4: career and you've been the manager year twice, there's something
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  Speaker 4: to that. I mean, he's good at what he does.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely. And I just to clarify that, Dave Roberts,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they overachieved. I think they underachieved during
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  Speaker 3: the regular season. A roster that good and you didn't
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  Speaker 3: win one hundred and ten games.
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  Speaker 5: It's true.
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  Speaker 3: I mean they didn't even get a bye in the
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  Speaker 3: first round for goodness sake. So no Dave Roberts. But
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  Speaker 3: I'm my point about that is, I don't think you
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  Speaker 3: get eliminated just because people think you have the best talent.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the year Phil Jackson and the Bulls went
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  Speaker 3: what seventy three and nine or whatever, Yeah, maybe he
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  Speaker 3: did some good things that and shouldn't be eliminated from
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  Speaker 3: the conversation. Well, we've done it to ourselves again. We've
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  Speaker 3: spent fifteen minutes on this topic. It ran out of
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  Speaker 3: the times that I wanted to discuss this other topic
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  Speaker 3: that I've been dying to talk about. And so I'll
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  Speaker 3: just say briefly that I think what you are seeing
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  Speaker 3: because we've had a really curious manager hiring cycle in
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  Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. Some guys that weren't on the radar period.
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  Speaker 3: A college coach with zero professional coaching experience has been
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  Speaker 3: hired a relief pitcher. I mean, there's not a manager
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: in Major League Baseball right now who was a major
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: league pitcher until Craig Stammon got hired by the Padres,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: and he wasn't even a start. Can you imagine as
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: weird as as relief pitchers are handing over the reins
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: to your team to a relief pitcher and recently retired
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: like played last year. Can you imagine thinking that a
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: relief pitcher, one year removed from the is ready to
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: be a manager of a Major League Baseball team.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: He just has must be, must have been that leader
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: in the clubhouse, which usually it's not a relief pitcher.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Usually a relief pitcher.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's you know, you can come in
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: all different walks and shapes and sizes. It typically is
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: a guy like catcher. There's a reason why. Yeah, probably
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: five or six of the guys that were up for
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: the Manager of the Year were former catchers, as they
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: just they tend to gravitate towards that the general I
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: run this thing. Relief pitchers typically don't. They might be
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: the gesture over in the corner.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: What I thought of as the guys that play grab
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: ass in the bullpen the whole game and don't even
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: pay attention until it's their time to stretch, right, you know.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: And so for I mean, it's it's been a bizarre
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Major League Baseball managerial cycle and The only thing that
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: I can take from it that tries to explain it
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: is I think. I mean, we see trends all the time,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: hiring trends, particularly owners, general managers. They see something that's
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: working and they want to copy that. And I think
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: what you are seeing right now in Major League Baseball,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: and maybe we're seeing it and in the NFL, maybe
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: we're seeing it at the college level. Maybe it's the
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: reason Brian Dayball and his old school I yell at
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: my quarterback tactics just expired this week in the middle
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: of the season. And I think it's not that today's
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: young players. I don't want to call them soft. I
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: don't think they respond. And maybe this is the right
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: way to go. Maybe this is evolution. Maybe we were
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: silly for liking that Lou Holtz grabbed face masks or
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: ed chef made you box your your third baseman before practice.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: You know, maybe that was stupid and we've held on
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: to that stuff for way too long, thinking that's how
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: you get the most out of young people. You've got
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: to be authoritative. Maybe this is the right way to go.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: And it's not that Dan Wilson or Steven vote coddle
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: players or are soft with players or are too gentle
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: with players. But I do believe today's young athlete does
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: respond to hard tactics, and so that's why Kevin cites
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: her and we always do his voice in that soft,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: loving way that he speaks to everyone. Probably worked really
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: well with this team. Maybe he didn't have revolutionary ideas
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: for hitting. Maybe he just had a way to approach
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: players that they responded well to, and so they absorbed
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: more of what he was teaching them. I think that's
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: where we're at right now. I don't think Brian Kelly
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: works right now in college football that hard disciplinarian that
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: yells at players on the field and then trashes them
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: in post game press conferences. Dan Wilson is a shining
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: example of you can be a little old school, but
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: you better figure out how to communicate with young athletes today,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: young men today who really don't respond to that hard
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: hand tactic that you and I grew up with.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're essentially if you're a coach kind
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: of a doctor, and if any doctor goes out there
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: and just treats every patient exactly the same, I go, oh,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: you have a cold, then here's something that cures cancer,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: you know, No, you have to treat them differently. And
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: I think that that's one thing the old school. If
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: there was a mistake with old school, and I think
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: there's something about toughening people up, because then when the
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: pressure is the there's the most pressure, the toughness will
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: come up, it'll rise to the surface. That said, you
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: can't nowadays, you most certainly can't just be all old
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: school hard knows, you know. But at the same time,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: I think there's certain people that will respond better to
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: being coach hard. And there most certainly is a lot
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: of players now that want to be you know, delivered
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: to them in.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: A soft way. Well, you got and you've got to
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: play to the majority. Now, yeah, yeah, you gant it
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: just because you got one or two guys that want
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: to be coached hard. You can't get a coach who
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: coaches hard. Hopefully he's able to do that too.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: Coach most coach those that are soft softly you know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: and or you know, I mean, just give it to
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: him in a softer way. And then when there's somebody
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: that you know, they respond with the light of fire
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: under that's you should be able to do that as well.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I'll say this about Dan Wilson. Even though I didn't
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: agree with a lot of his ex'es and o's this year,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: I know that he excels in that area. I know
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: that he excels in that area. And that's why you
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: get to the end of a season where everybody's bashing
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: the manager for the decision that they feel cost them
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: the World Series, and Jerry Depoto speaks to the press
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and says he's our guy, and you don't understand how
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: much he's loved in that locker room. He's not going anywhere.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: That's why, because Dan Wilson has that part of managing
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: in the year twenty twenty five down cold. All right,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: let's find out what's on tap, Chuck and buy what's
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: on TEP. What's on tep?
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: All right, Sally?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: On award tonight, Derek Scouobel is expected to win it
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: on the American League side, maybe a little more interesting
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: on the n L side, And of course we're all
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: building up to Thursday to find out finally if cal
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Rawley's going to win the American League MVP over Aaron Judge. Also,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Andy McKay, by the way, left the organization for the Mariners.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: He's kind of their psychology development guy over there, assistant
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: general manager, and apparently Cleveland really liked what he was
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: doing with the Mariners and lured him away. I don't
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: know any more about this other than Andy McKay's not
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: going to be around anymore. Columbus two to one winners
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: over Cracking in a shootout, Crack and lose another shootout,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: another overtime game. Yeah, they're getting points regularly, but two
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: points are better. They will play Thursday at home against
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Winnipeg Alciniski'll join us today at nine to thirty. College
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: basketball Coogs Huskies will meet Friday night and Pullman. Last night,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: the Zags a very impressive win, nineteenth ranked over number
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: twenty three Creighton. Ninety to sixty three was the final score.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: The Zags ran him out of the gym. College football
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Huskies will host Perdue this Saturday. Cam Cleveland will join
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: us as he does every Wednesday, at eight o'clock. We'll
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: get his thoughts on Jed Fish and many other things.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: College football playoff rankings came out last night. We'll discuss
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: it thoroughly coming up here at six forty five. No
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: time to get into the details right now, but yes,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: new rankings are out and there was some shakeup, and
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: of course it is hump day, and so we start
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: really focusing on the next Seahawks opponent, the Rams, and
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: coming up on the other side, we will discuss, speaking
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: of coaches, this fascinating coaching matchup McDonald versus McVeigh. Oh,
• 22:34
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• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Bet Man, this is a different cat right here. This
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: thing is huge. I mean for middle of the season
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: and we're still in the middle portion of the season.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: To have this big of a game, this hyped of
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: a game. We talked a little bit yesterday about I
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: hope that the Seahawks aren't peaking too soon in the season,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: but this is gonna be like heak regular season, you know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: euphoria when it comes to getting ready for a game.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: This is a monster, a monster taking on the Rams
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: on Sunday.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, both are playing well, both have good records.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: You have a tight division right where there's basically three
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: out of the four teams are still in it. For
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: the most part. You can't really count out anybody because
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: considering how many games are left. But I think you
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: can pretty much count Arizona out and so yeah, you're
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: sitting there like, okay, not very often in what are
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: we week eleven, week twelve, week eleven, I get it
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: mixed up because college whatever.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: But well as we're seven to twos and we had
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: to buy so a week.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: So week eleven. Yeah, so it's uh, you know, at
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: this point in the season, you don't typically have a
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: game where you're like, boy, the difference between winning it
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: and losing it is so drastic, right, I mean now
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: it's still is going to be You're still gonna be
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: within one game if you lose, and vice a versa.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: But it's it's not the end of the world. Yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: it feels big. It feels like they're a whole heck
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: of a lot more hanging in the balance than just
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: your typical run of the mill regular season game, even
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: the run of the mill regular season you know, divisional game.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think the division is on the line
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: this Sunday. It's just, man, you just in terms of
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: a regular season matchup, a divisional matchup. I mean, these
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: feel like two runaway trains right now when it comes
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: to momentum or in this case mcmentum with McDonald versus
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: McVeigh even. I mean to think about how good we're
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: going and they're going just as well. Yeah, think about
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: how good we're going right now here in Seattle and
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: the Rams are like, well, they're going just as well.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: So I don't know what you're bragging about. We got
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: same record. We're dominating teams as of late. So that's
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: even the MC quarterbacks. I mean, it's Stafford versus Donald.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, Stafford and Sam Darnald are getting MVP consideration
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: halfway through the year. Stafford's considered the favorite in a
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: lot of circles, with Sam right there nipping at his heels.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: The mcdefense both top five. Both are top five, and
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: the Rams defense is better than our defense. Statistically, we're fifth,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: their second. They allow only seventeen points per game. So
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: isn't it interesting that most people are expecting a high
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: scoring game on Sunday when you have two top five
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: defenses in the National Football League. But there's a reason
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: for it because both mcoffenses are both top five. That's right.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: We're third thirty and a half points per game. Who
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: saw that coming? The Rams are fifth twenty eight points
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: per game. And I think it all comes down to
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: the mc coaches. I mean, this is McVeigh versus McDonald.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: This is the biggest storyline. I think this is the
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: absolute headline topic heading into this week. And it goes
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: back to when Mike McDonald was hired, and Hugh Millen's
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: analysis immediately was, we are in a division with arguably
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: two of the best offensive minds, if not the best
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: offensive mines in the game right now, and Shanahan and McVeigh.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: So if you're John Schneider and you're moving on from
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Pete Carroll, what's your move? Do you try to get
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Ben Johnson or the next offensive mine that can hang
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: with these two Because by the way, they're both very
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: young still, especially McVeigh mcveigh's thirty nine, McDonald's thirty eight.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Think about how young Mike McDonald is and new to
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: this job, and Sean McVay feels like he's been around forever.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: He's only a year older. So they're not going anywhere
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: unless they just decide I have enough money and it's
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: too much stress, I'm gonna go raise children and have
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: an ant farm. I don't see that coming. And so
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: they're not going anywhere anytime soon. And so Hugh talked
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: about like this. Mike McDonald hire is John Schneider saying,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: if I got to go up against two offensive geniuses
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: four times every single season, then I want the ultimate
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: counter chess move. Give me the next defensive genius. And
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: he hired Mike McDonald, and here we go first year.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: That year. You know, Mike McDonald's just getting used to
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: being a head coach. Now he's really sinking his teeth
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: the end of the position. And believe me, Sean McVay
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: and Kyle Shanahan know they've got their work cut out for.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Them when they face Mike McDonald. Yeah, the idea of
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: these two teams, you're right. I mean, I think beginning
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: of the season, right, if we didn't have we don't
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: have a crystal ball. If you just think about McVeigh,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: he's known for the offensive genius that he is, right,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: he's known for the fact that he does things that
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: seem really hard to figure out, and even though people
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: maybe start to figure out some of his tendencies, he
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: keeps coming up with ways to keep it new, keep
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: it fresh, keep being right there. As far as winning
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: the division and doing some damage in the playoffs, and
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: yet to some degree, they're the stamp right now on
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: them is their defense, Like you said that, like, right now,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: we're happy about our defense. I think the give up
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: nineteen points a game or something like that. They give
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: up seventeen points of games. And some of that is okay,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: who have you played? But it were far enough into
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: the season that it's enough of a sample size. And
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: on the flip side of it, you think about, you know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks and McDonald you're like, pooh, this defense something.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: And yet the biggest surprise or the thing that is
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: the most pleasant around here. Yeah, the defense is amazing,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: but boy, this offense. Look at how potent this offense
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: can be. And and they so. To me, it's there's storylines,
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: the obvious storylines, and then really the further you dig
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: into it, there there's even more intriguing storylines.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Oh it's Mike fascinating.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And everybody is putting out you know, their NFL
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: power rankings, and we were number one last week.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Well now they've got the Rams number one and us
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: number two.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: There. Oh that's mc trash talk. That is y that
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: is and you know what I think is the most
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: encouraging thing about this when and trying to figure out
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: because this has been such a fun season. The team
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: seems to be on a roll. We're all convinced that
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: John Schneider just had a grand Slam, not just a
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: home run, but a grand slam with his head coaching
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: higher controversially as it was, I mean, because it didn't
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: look like Pete Carroll was ready to be fired, and
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: yet he made the move and brings in young Mike
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: McDonald And now it just doesn't it doesn't look like
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: it could have made a better choice at this point.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: But think about what you said about the Rams. Sean
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: mcvay's kind of become a full service head coach. Now
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: he's got enough skin in the game. He's won a
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: super Bowl championship. I mean, it really does feel like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: at age thirty nine, he's got it all figured out.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, we're going against a titan in this National
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Football League. We might be facing the best head coach
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: in the game right now in Sean McVay. If not
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Andy Reid, it's probably Sean McVay. But doesn't it make
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: sense that if you are an offensive genius, that you
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: really have to really understand defense too.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, doesn't that make sense?
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I Bill Belichick was a defensive genius. But when the
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Patriots were going well, I mean he was really hands
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: on with the offense. He flipped over to the other
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: side and kind of unlocked their offense as well. And
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: So for Sean mcgay to get to the point at
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: age thirty nine, I mean, how many how many years?
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Ten years already when was he hired? Fourteen Doogie howser basically,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: So he's now to the point where it's like, there's
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: really not a flaw in his game. I think that
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: he's more hands on with personnel decisions all of that stuff,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: and he's really got it down. But Mike McDonald, here
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: he is in his second year and after John Schneider
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: fumbled around with a few of the personnel decisions that
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: he was finally midway through the season last year brave
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: enough to say this isn't working. Get me this kind
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: of guy. And now here you are on the offensive
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: side of the ball one year with Ryan Grubb, he's
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: not working. Get me this kind of guy. For Mike
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: McDonald to already be aware enough on both both sides
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: of the ball of what he needs to have the
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: team that he wants, my goodness, I mean Sean McVay
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: got there within five six seven years, even though he'd
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl, it took him like five six
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: seven years to be a full service head coach. Do
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: we really have a guy that's figured it out in
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: a year and a half, like everything about the organization?
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Do we have that advanced of a head coach? Oh,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: it's exciting, It is mic exciting, exciting, Yeah, exciting. Yeah.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: The I mean the idea of running a roster as
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: big as an NFL roster and all of the things
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: that go into it, right, I mean, the lights aren't
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: brighter for any type of person at the helm of
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: any team. Right, we're just talking about the manager of
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: the year. There's not even he pales in comparison to
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: what you have to do, the things you have to
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: have your fingerprints on. And yet I think that's a
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: perfect point that you just made of If you're going
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: to be an offensive mastermind, you better damn well understand
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: everything about defenses. Now, you maybe don't wake up in
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: the middle of the night with some defensive play that
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: you scribble on a scratch pad on your night stand
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: like a defensive minded guy, and vice versa.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I bet you he does now, yeah, and yet that that's.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: One of those to think that Mike McDonald doesn't understand
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: exactly what offenses in today's game are trying to do.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: How are they're trying to, you know, pass, and then
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: when they're going to be what their tendencies are as
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: far as just across the board, not individual teams, but
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: across the board now is third and six. Of course
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: that's a passing, but does this team do that? Do
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: they pass short and then get yards after gets? All
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: of that stuff goes into making you somebody that could
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: be called a mastermind or a defensive gurus is being
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: able to understand the other side.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: So I'm with you.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's only three coaches that have
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: been in their spots longer than McVeigh has. Tomlin, Andy
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Reid and John Harbaugh are the only three I think
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: that have been in their spots longer than he has.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: And he's thirty nine. Yeah, but I mean it's I
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: think for sure that he figured it out and now
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden he's a well rounded guy that
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: has his fingerprints all over that organization and has a
• 33:07
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• 33:09
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• 33:13
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• 36:07
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• 36:23
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• 36:25
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• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Playoff rankings came out last night. No shakeup at the top. Texas,
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• 36:42
  Speaker 3: week for the Seahawks. They faced the Rams on Sunday
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: and it's time to chat with our Seahawks insider. All right,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: so here we go, humpday Seahawks Rams. We were talking
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: at six thirty about this fascinating head coaching matchup Mike
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: McDonald versus Sean McVeigh. How fascinating does a Seahawks inside
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: er find this matchup?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is where it starts, and there's gonna be
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of chess moving and strategizing and showing off
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: coaching acumen. On the field, You're gonna see a lot
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: of probably new things. Both coaches are gonna throw stuff
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: at the other guy that they haven't seen yet. It
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: would not surprise me if the Seahawks have been working
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit each week on this game plan. They'll
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: never admit that, but putting in a little play here,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: play there, we're gonna use this againt the Rams in a
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks type of stuff. They want McVeigh to
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: see things. Defensively, McDonald wants them to see stuff that
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: he hasn't seen on film from the Seahawks, and one
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: of them could be blitzing. We've talked about how they
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: haven't blitzed as much as they thought they were going to,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: as much as McDonald designed him to blitz this year,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: mainly because witherspoon't even Warry haven't played together a lot. Well,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: now they're back and that gives him a lot more
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: and the options to blitz from the back. And then
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the question becomes do they have to If the front
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: forces as successful as it has been in pressuring the quarterback,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: and especially now Matthew Stafford, who is a little bit
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: more like Jakobe Brissett than like Tiler Murray or Lamar Jackson,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: then the Seahawks will get He's getting a McDonald basically
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: is getting away without blitzing and keeping six and seven
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: in the back to cover as long as this front
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: four can continue to gain pressure and affect the quarterback.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: And to me, that's a real key on Sunday. Stafford
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: gets it that quick. He's pretty veteran at reading pass
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: russ and blitzes and avoiding sacks. But can the front
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: four for Seattle affect Stafford, who's playing on MVP level?
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Can he affect them like they've affected most other quarterbacks?
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: How about on the other side of that, because the
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Rams defenses is right up there with the Seahawks, maybe
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: even better in a lot of statistical categories. And so
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: how is the offensive line? Are they going to be
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: able to continue to be as good as they have
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: been up to this point against that defense?
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the question, Bucky. Is this for real? I mean,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you look at the teams the Seahawks have beaten. It's
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Saints, and the Jaguars, and the
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Texans and the Cardinals twice and the Commanders, who are broken.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: They haven't beaten the top seven NFC team, a playoff team,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: yet they lost the forty nine Ers we know, at home,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: and that's the only team with even a shot at
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: the playoffs that they've come even close to being so far.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: So who are they? It's the offensive line going to
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: play at a level that will compete for NFC West championship.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: That's with the Rams and the forty nine Ers. And
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: we've been talking about it forever since the spring. Everything
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: they've done, everything, bringing in Kobiak, who they start on
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: the offensive line, bring signing Sam Darnold, play action passes,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: running the balls offense at everything, they've done since the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: end of January at the end of last season has
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: been to beat the Rams in the forty nine ers.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And here you go. It's great. They're seven too, but
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: they ain't done nothing yet. Honestly, they've got to beat
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: the Rams at forty nine ers to win the division.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Greg mell let's with us our Seahawks insider joints nearly
• 40:22
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• 40:24
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• 40:31
  Speaker 3: year round at Thenewstribune dot com. Ernest Jones obviously wants
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: to get on the field to face his former team,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: the Rams, and Mike McDonald obviously wants him on the
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: field to face the Rams. So how are they going
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: to make that happen?
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if Jones has a pulse in his
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: breathing Sunday morning, he's playing. Yesterday, he said, he posted
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: on his social media account of video of a rap
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: video of a guy that was dead and coming back
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: from the dead. And I had to consult my twenty
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: two year old son, the vet I wrote about yesterday
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: who exactly that was? Insider Yeah, he's my hip hop
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: insider compared to me anyway. Yeah, he Duke Deuce, the
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: guy coming up from the dead. So yeah, that was
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: a strong indication that he's telling the world I'm playing
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: after missing the game last week with the knee injury,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: and of course he's playing, And of course that was
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: probably part of the calculus last week. Let's hold you out,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: see if we can get through this Arizona game with that.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: You haven't play, so you'll be ready for the Rams,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and he will play on Sunday. I had no doubt
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: in my mind.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Any other updates, I mean, Tory Horton or is Sundale.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Sundale's out right, Yes, he's.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Gonna miss multiple games. According to Mike McDonald, he's a
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: candidate perhaps for injured reserve.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Is that? I mean, how concerning is that? I mean,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: to go to Ola with Timmy's such a big game,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would think that it wouldn't rock the
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: boat that you have to replace your center. I mean,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: injuries are part of the game, but I mean, how
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: big of a drop off are we talking from Sundell
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: to Olawa Timmy? When Ola Timmy at the beginning of
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: the training camp looked like he was supposed to be
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: the favorite. I mean, you kept telling us it was
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: going to be Sindell, but he was supposed to be.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: He was the guy that was written in on all
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: the depth charts on all the websites. I'll tell you
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: that much.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Oh well, those websites they know, but no they ola.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Timmy was the starting center of the first week of
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: training camp. He got the number one reps. But it
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: was quickly, Sundel. I mean it didn't take pretty long
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: at all. It isn't It does matter because one, you
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: have to snap the ball to the quarterback cleanly, and
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: he didn't do that a couple of times when he
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: came in. I know, he just came in a cold,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: hadn't played all season. And yes, Seahawks are banking on
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: batpying the reason that he messed up a couple but
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: more than that, at the center, of course, he's the
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: traffic cop and all of that, and that has not
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: been old with Timmy's stay. He's been good at that.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: He's very good at mastering protection calls and the knowing
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the offense. And now he's been in it for coupanies.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: It's not so much that it's don't get beat up
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: the middle on pass rush, I mean run play pass play.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: If you have penetration from the A gap or the
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: B gap, you're done. The quarterback can't get rid of
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: the ball quickly that it's the quickest pass to the
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: quarterback right. If the nose tackle defensive tackle is in
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: on your quarterback, that means he got there pretty quickly.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: That means you're center failed and the play will fail.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: At the center fails, Hugh talks about it all the time.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: If you have interior pressure from a defensive tackle up
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: the middle in your air B gap, a quarterback, there's
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: not too many options for him to get the ball
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: to the hot receiver. It's either gonna get a thrown
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: away or a stack or worse, a turnover. So that's
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: the problem, is not so much the operation, the all
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: all the things the center has to do pre snap
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and recognize it. Oh, Timmy's been good at that and
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: they've never had a problem with him doing that. The
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: physicality of stopping premier defensive tackles, that's the issue. And
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: if he was able to do that better than Snelli
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: would have been starting back in July. And he's not
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: and that's the problems un there.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Do the Rams have the x'es and o's or the
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Jimmies and Joe's to be able to stop Jackson, Smith
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: and jig because nobody really has been able to do
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: that so far.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Well, that's a good question, and that's if you're LA
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: and you're looking at how to beat the Seahawks. That's
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: where it starts. Couldn't they do what nobody else has
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: been able to do? And it would start with affecting
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the quarterback so that Smith and Jigga can't run as
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: long as routes as he's been able to a lot
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: of Smiths and Jigbas catches. Bucky have been later in place,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: second and third reads, long breaking outside routes. I keep
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: thinking of the Houston fourth and one play when they're
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: an eighteen yard out route. Those type of plays they
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: take time, and that takes longer than one point five
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: seconds for the quarterback to hold the ball. Can the
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Rams force the ball out from Sam Donald before Smith
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and Jiggman is running eighteen yard outs or long crossers
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: or deep posts, those type of plays that he's been
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: so good at, the reason why Donald leads the league
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: in yards per past attempt and the reason why the
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: yard by far Smith and Jingger leads the league in
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: yards per reception is that he's able to have time
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: to get open. In the NFL, if you don't make
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: the quarterback decide quickly, the receivers are going to get open.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: The rules are made that way, and by and large,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: that's what Seattle's offensive line in the play action pass
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: game has done for Donald, afforded him longer times for
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Smith and Jiggby to get open. Can the Rams it
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: keeps souding a broken record affecting the quarterback. That's the
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: name of the game in twenty twenties. Can you make
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: the quarterback get the ball out before he wants to,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: before the receivers have made the routes, before the windows
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: become open, before the receivers finally become open, because the
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: rules will make it that way. That's the key to
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: every game. But can the Rams do that? And in
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the last few years the answer has been yes. No
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: matter who the quarterback for Seattle is, no matter who
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the center for Seattle is, no matter who Aaron Donald's
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: on a retirement counch, doesn't matter. They have been able
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: to beat the offensive line for Seattle, the Rams have
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: dominated them on the line of scrimmage, which is why
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks haven't run the division in many years.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it's change. Yeah, I don't
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: know if it's pre read or if it's play calling
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: or whatever the case may be. But Donald and JSN
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: seem to be sharing the same brain. Like when it
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: requires to get rid of the ball quickly, it seems
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: like they have the right play to get him the
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: ball in space, and he's he's unstoppable.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: He has been so far. Yeah, and you're right, it
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the coverage has been. And we've talked
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: about this. They people teams have stated safeties, bracket covers,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: flat out double teams at times, esecially in the red zone.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: The s Fiel gets shorter, teams have just put two
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: guys on him, like high school basketball style box and
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: one or just shadow two dudes on Smith and Jewey.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: He still makes catches that way. Yeah, you're right. And
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: if quarterbacks sees that on film and sees it in
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: practice and does it in the games when the heat's on,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: if he's a time it again, that's gonna be his default.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: He's trusting Smith and Jigman to be open at all
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: times in all coverages.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: In our last couple of minutes, I want to ask
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: about their wide receivers because they kind of have two
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: of them that are elite and DeVante Adams and Puka Nikua.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: So I would I mean, we don't know about Adams oblique.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: I guess there's a chance he might not play this week.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: But let's assume they're both gonna play. I mean, who's
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: the other you know, Witherspoon's going to be on one side.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Who's the other guy? Are there? Are we gonna trust me,
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: trusting Rieke Wooland to cover one of these two dudes
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: consistently on Sunday.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: It may be Josh Jones concussion. We'll find out more
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: this week and then how far long he is in
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the protocol and if he can respond to increased activity,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: and I've talked about that the other day, and if not,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: it will be Reek. Wollen just had two really good games.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I wrote about that yesterday for the News Tribune about
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: how the last two weeks he's really been good on
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: playing the ball in the air. A couple plays in
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: the Arizona, including against Trey McBride, in the end zone.
• 48:21
  Speaker 9: I mean McBride.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Nobody could stop McBride on Sunday he had nine catches,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty six yards and a touchdown. And
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: there's a Reek Wolan in the third quarter jumping with
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the tight end and basically two hands slammed, dunking the
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: ball back toward the quarterback and the end zone for
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: a pass breakup? Can he do that?
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: At?
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Devonte Adams has something of a career resurgence under McVeigh.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: As he often does with receivers, he makes them look
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: pretty good. And yes, that will probably be where the
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: ball goes. Teams again schematically go away from Devin Witherspoon,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: and so I would expect that's where the ball goes
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: often every time they play, though it's guys like Higbee
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: and Kyron Williams and some running back we never heard
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: of in the past. Game right screen passes and third
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: down plays to the tight end. This team goes a
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: lot of two and even three tight ends. Remember we
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: talked about how much Seattle was going two and three
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: tight ends earlier this season. When the Rams are doing
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: it even more than the Seahawks lately, thirteen personnel with
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: three tight ends and they throw out of it. So
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: while the wide receivers get the attention, and the coup
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: op rightly so gets a huge amount of attention. McVeigh
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: kills the Seahawks with screens and throws the tight ends,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: and you can bet the Seahawks are working a lot
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: on that because they've had issues catching guys catch excuse me,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: tackles after the catch on those type of plays all
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  Speaker 1: season and mcvay's goally use a ton of them someday.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it's a Mom's chicken super
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  Speaker 3: recipe or not, but you sounded terrible three days ago.
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  Speaker 3: You sounded like you were better yesterday, and now it
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  Speaker 3: sounds like you're taking like a half step back today.
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  Speaker 3: What's going on? Are you just not the following mom orders?
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  Speaker 3: What's going on here?
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for tracking myself because i haven't slept in three nights.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, the.
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  Speaker 1: Cough and yeah, oh wow, she's awakened. I've been sleeping
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  Speaker 1: on the couch and it's a head cold. But and
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  Speaker 1: I'm fine during the day when I'm standing up right now,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm going to sleep. Everything is in my head
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  Speaker 1: and thrown.
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  Speaker 4: And I've heard of you put onions in your in
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  Speaker 4: some socks and sleep with that.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Never, honestly, I never thought of that. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why I never thought of that. It might have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of good vics on the feet.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that happened through the feet.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's uh, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: So you're live out in the wood, you put tree
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  Speaker 1: sap on your feet to tell me some of these
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  Speaker 1: other rhythms. I'll take any remedy at this point.
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  Speaker 4: I'm telling you do the onions, just cut slightly. You
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  Speaker 4: don't put like the round. You got to cut it
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  Speaker 4: into a slice and then put it on your feet
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  Speaker 4: and put a sock over it.
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  Speaker 3: I might be confusing this with another remedy, but I
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  Speaker 3: also think if you wear garlic or around your neck,
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  Speaker 3: that keeps vampire. That's right. I was confusing those two, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Because I was like, oh, I've got a garlic's necklace
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  Speaker 7: in my backpack. If I on the way home, well
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  Speaker 7: feel better?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know how touch the hamlet. We're spending a
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  Speaker 3: We got to get your better. We got a round
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, you might get.
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  Speaker 1: A B minus game tomorrow. I'm hoping to be closer
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  Speaker 1: to B plus.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. I'll be there all right, We'll feel better.
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  Speaker 3: That's und every gonna want to go to Madison, Wisconsin again, Cleveland?
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Any interested in that ever in the future.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, ye had a We had some great wings
• 53:02
  Speaker 9: with Softy and I at the bar on Friday. It's
• 53:06
  Speaker 9: really good spotted I tried some spotted cow. Is that
• 53:11
  Speaker 9: what is called spotted cow beer? It was really good.
• 53:14
  Speaker 9: That was good. To only get it in Wisconsin.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: That was.
• 53:20
  Speaker 9: Not good. Yeah, football game was was was not optimal.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: Gentlemen, How shocked were you by the way that they played?
• 53:31
  Speaker 9: I I am I this is full honesty, and I'm
• 53:36
  Speaker 9: in transpar Are we on the radio? Okay? On the
• 53:40
  Speaker 9: radio live everywhere?
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: I I do not recognize this team on the road. Sometimes, guys,
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: I cannot, for the life of me understand the transparency
• 53:49
  Speaker 9: of what a team can do certain situations. And and
• 53:52
  Speaker 9: I know it's experience, and I know it's emotion, and
• 53:55
  Speaker 9: I know you're in situations if you look at it
• 53:58
  Speaker 9: and finally break the the film and see the way
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: the offense played. The Wisconsin defense is very good. Okay.
• 54:06
  Speaker 9: I have to give a lot of credit to their defense.
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: They are full of some very good talent. Their discipline,
• 54:13
  Speaker 9: they were as advertised. They played the toughest schedule in
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: the country, and that needs to be a little bit
• 54:20
  Speaker 9: of credit. It just isn't all what Washington didn't do
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: on offense. On the other side, that offense completely flipped
• 54:29
  Speaker 9: from a scheme. They went to a running scheme. The
• 54:32
  Speaker 9: punter had the longest pass play, the most completion yards.
• 54:36
  Speaker 9: They lost their starting quarterback with an injury on the
• 54:40
  Speaker 9: second drive, and then a freshman came in and they
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: wanted It's an ugly, dirty football game, and there's a
• 54:47
  Speaker 9: lot of things to clean up, and mistakes were made capitalized,
• 54:51
  Speaker 9: didn't do a few things that I would have thought
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: Demon Williams. And again, as healthy as this team is,
• 54:58
  Speaker 9: guys going into this game, they come out completely unhealthy. Again.
• 55:03
  Speaker 9: So this is football. There's no sympathy. Okay, I've been
• 55:07
  Speaker 9: through all of it. We all watch football. Football is
• 55:09
  Speaker 9: about injuries and dealing with adversity and playing in one
• 55:12
  Speaker 9: of the worst weather games I've ever seen. You just
• 55:16
  Speaker 9: you deal with it. That's the fun of playing in
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: college football and going on the road, and you got
• 55:21
  Speaker 9: to learn to embrace road games or your program is
• 55:24
  Speaker 9: never going to get over the hump.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, ultimately, there's a lot of things that
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: are frustrating about watching that game, and yet you're right,
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: there's some elements that were involved in different variables. To me,
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: it feels like just if one goes different, if Jonah
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: Coleman doesn't get dinged up, or you can you can
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: give him the ball a little bit more, you'll probably
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: end up finding a way to pull that one out.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: How is he Is he good to go? Is he
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: going to be fine moving forward?
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Do you know?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah? I mean coming out a halftime coach, fish, is
• 55:55
  Speaker 9: you know Denzel's fine? Jonahs fine? He had a kneebrace on.
• 55:59
  Speaker 9: But I'll I'll be agree with you guys. We couldn't
• 56:02
  Speaker 9: run the football. I mean, I don't know you's gonna
• 56:05
  Speaker 9: run it there. They wouldn't have mattered. I don't think
• 56:08
  Speaker 9: it would have mattered. The way they played their defense,
• 56:10
  Speaker 9: the way it was held, the false starts, behind the sticks,
• 56:15
  Speaker 9: the field position game was tremendous. If you look at
• 56:17
  Speaker 9: the average start line, I think our average start was
• 56:20
  Speaker 9: around the twenty six our twenty six, and I think
• 56:23
  Speaker 9: if you at Wisconsin, they were their own forty eight,
• 56:26
  Speaker 9: if not better. So the field position game was tremendous,
• 56:31
  Speaker 9: and that difference in the flip and you miss a
• 56:34
  Speaker 9: field goal, you go for a forty nine yard field goal,
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: you get it blocked. I know there's questions on that.
• 56:39
  Speaker 9: That's why I'm not the coach. I just call the
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: game and look at it. In retrospect, I would have
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: went for it, but again I'm not the coach. It's
• 56:48
  Speaker 9: or I might even punted it just to try to
• 56:51
  Speaker 9: pin it inside the five yard line. And I don't
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: know that. There's just so many things. It doesn't make
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: any sense because at the end of a half there's variables.
• 56:58
  Speaker 9: But when you perform like that on the road, you're frustrated.
• 57:02
  Speaker 9: Everybody in that locker room is frustrated. The coaches are frustrated.
• 57:05
  Speaker 9: Now you're out of the college football playoff talk and
• 57:08
  Speaker 9: you're trying to bust your butt to finish with these
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: next three games, and they're very important when you talk
• 57:16
  Speaker 9: about the building of the program.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: You know you mentioned the weather. It did look like
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: the game was being played in a like a snow globe.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: And man. Luke Fickle looked like it was like bringing
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: out he was like Fickle the snowman, Like it was
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: like it gave him life, It gave him like energy.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: On the sideline, See didn't seem to be phased by
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: it at all, but our quarterback was he phased. Was
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: demon Williams bothered by the conditions of the game.
• 57:42
  Speaker 9: Do you think, Yeah, I think, well, who wouldn't be.
• 57:46
  Speaker 9: I mean, you don't train in that, That's not possible.
• 57:49
  Speaker 9: So you just have to react when you're in games
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: of that nature. It's the mistakes that you look back on.
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: And I always you'll hear me say it every week. Guys,
• 57:58
  Speaker 9: you got to win the six There's six plays in
• 58:00
  Speaker 9: every game that if you flip them in either one direction,
• 58:03
  Speaker 9: there's a completely different outcome. The interception, that's a long interception.
• 58:08
  Speaker 9: That's a major mistake. You drive that football, you get
• 58:11
  Speaker 9: another field goal ball. There's no need to go deep
• 58:14
  Speaker 9: on that second down. You throw it deep, you throw
• 58:17
  Speaker 9: it into double coverage. Interception, protect the football inside your
• 58:20
  Speaker 9: own twenty yard line. Trying to move it out. You scramble,
• 58:23
  Speaker 9: you're loose of the football. They turn it, We turn
• 58:26
  Speaker 9: it over with a fumble right there. Just those two plays. Guys,
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: if I take those two changes, even if you protect
• 58:33
  Speaker 9: the football, you get off the field, you punt it,
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: make them go. They get a touchdown off of that turnover.
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: That's it. That's the football game right there, those two plays.
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: So it's a young man learning how to play football
• 58:45
  Speaker 9: in difficult situations. He tried to do it on his
• 58:48
  Speaker 9: own at the end, but they tackled him well, they
• 58:52
  Speaker 9: ran him down. Even on the last play of the game,
• 58:54
  Speaker 9: he tried to make a play, they closed the gap.
• 58:57
  Speaker 9: I'm not saying he's trying to do too much, but
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: I will tell you this, if you cannot run the football,
• 59:02
  Speaker 9: every other team we've played, other than maybe Illinois, has
• 59:07
  Speaker 9: been able to run the football successfully against us, and
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: that managed to control the clocket, did a good job
• 59:14
  Speaker 9: of managing football position and field position. We have not
• 59:20
  Speaker 9: had one hundred yards on the ground with Jonah Coleman
• 59:22
  Speaker 9: since UC Davis. These are the glaring things of the
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: offensive line and the group. And now you have land
• 59:28
  Speaker 9: and Hatchet out drew as a party is now out.
• 59:31
  Speaker 9: You had to pay play pockey final. Who was the
• 59:34
  Speaker 9: left guard stepping in for John Mills he moves to
• 59:37
  Speaker 9: right tackle. Because Sewane Fasolo had a couple of false starts,
• 59:40
  Speaker 9: they moved him out. So now you went from being
• 59:43
  Speaker 9: the number of the line. Was good and for Land
• 59:45
  Speaker 9: and Hatchet guys to try to play left handed. Never
• 59:48
  Speaker 9: seen it in my life. Guys. He played with a
• 59:51
  Speaker 9: club on his right hand, and I embraced the fact
• 59:54
  Speaker 9: that he is tough and he wants to be out there. Gentlemen,
• 59:58
  Speaker 9: there isn't any offensive line in the country that can
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 9: play with one hand. You have to be able to
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 9: grab and snap with your left hand. You're not left handed,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 9: So that to me was I mean, I applaud his
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 9: ability to go, but then hanging had to go in
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 9: and it just is you can't. There's just a lot
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: of things that ended up being flipped on their head
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 9: a little.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: Bit, just a mess cam I mean, going a little
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: bit more into the Demon Williams part of it. I mean,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: there's got to be a fine line, and I'm sure
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: you understand it far more than I do. Of that
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: not trying to do too much, but also you need
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: to be the dynamic guy that you are. And yet
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: there's a youth part of it. Obviously, he's a young kid,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: and so how quickly can you close the gap to
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: find where that happy spot that being in the zone
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: part of it where you're throwing the ball. But you
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: also know in the back of your mind you can
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: take off and run when you want or when you
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: need to. How big is that gap and how quickly
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: can that gap close?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's at myt I watch each game and I
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 9: get really analytical into the play call and the design
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 9: and and how his patience is. Look, this is this
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 9: is to me is as clear as his day. If
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 9: you watch him in deep throws or any play action,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 9: he has to get five and six yards deep sometimes
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 9: seven okay, and it can drop all the way into
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: ten sometimes, and that is because of vision. Vision means
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: more depth. So if he does start to run, he's
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 9: already ten to ten, eight to ten yards back before
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 9: he starts his scramble. Okay. So if you can't always
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 9: feel comfortable in the pocket with height and vision, again,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 9: it's it's a real thing. It's not it's not a deterrent.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 9: It's just a real issue. You have to have designed
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 9: runs for him, and so you either have to move
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 9: the pocket, have more boots, have more edge runs have
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 9: more move but I can't. I'm not. I'm not at
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 9: the point where i can put my finger on exactly
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 9: what would what the main can It's not concerns to me.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 9: It's just running the football changes everything, guys, with a
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 9: running game, it just does. And I think the way
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 9: Jed wants to be able to throw the football too,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 9: and the elements and the way demand can his vision
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 9: and he has good wide receivers. But Denzel goes down
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 9: in the second half, He's not the same intermediate short
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 9: throws something to get the ball out of his hands faster.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 9: I'm not going to tell anybody how to run their
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 9: system and their offense. You just need to have more fluidity.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 9: But it starts with being able to win by running
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 9: the football.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Well, you always are real with us. I'll be real
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: with you. I think Demon Williams says a lot of
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: things crazy great. I think he has terrible pocket presence, terrible.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 9: Cam uh I that's I mean, I'm not gonna sit. Okay,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 9: that's that's fair.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Check.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 9: Everybody has their own deciphering and how they call and
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 9: look at an offense. I don't think he has terrible
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 9: pocket pocket presence. I think he has. I think he
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 9: has what's called it. It's called it like there's a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 9: time clock in his head when he goes one two
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 9: and his eyes immediately go down because it's condensed. And
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 9: then it's like scatter, I gotta get out. I gotta
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 9: find a lane. I gotta find a spot. And here's
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 9: my other thing is that a lot of offenses to
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 9: have intermediate back protection, but they slide and the back
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 9: checks down to one side. I don't see a lot
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 9: of easy like hey, when there's a problem going on, like, hey,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 9: where's my back? How do I check it down? Where's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 9: my tight end to the check? Where's my easy throw?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 9: It's just like if I don't have it and it's
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 9: not deep, I got to get out of here. And
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 9: look that's that's him learning how to play. But I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 9: know being in the pocket for him, he does not
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 9: feel very comfortable being in the pocket and holding in there.
• 1:03:51
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• 1:03:54
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  Speaker 3: have to talk about I have to ask you about
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: the big topic this week. Jedfish was taking a little
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: bit to task at his press conference about whether or
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: not he's happy here at Washington. He said the right things,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: and yet people are just convinced that there's smoke, and
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: where there's smoke, you know how the saying goes. So
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, what do you know? What can you tell us?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: What do you feel comfortable telling us about this topic?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, guys, I know what you know? I do. I
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 9: don't have any in depth analysis. I really like Jed
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 9: as a person. I've met him a couple of times,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 9: talked to him. I think he is And here's my
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 9: full on real stance again I had to preface this
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: is that he was hired to do a job. And
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 9: every coach in this country is hired to do a job.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 9: That's how I look at it anymore. He's hired to
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 9: coach these young men, recruit, does an excellent job there,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 9: does an excellent job talking to the media, is very personable.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 9: His staff like every single one of these guys. They're
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: joy to talk to. He recruits good kids. He is
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 9: hired to do a job and this loyalty facet and
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 9: does somebody want to stay Heck, I don't even know
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 9: if I want to stay in my house from twenty
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 9: four hours to the next. I can't make that kind
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 9: of judgment. I don't I might want, I might want
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 9: new Cereal this morning, Okay, But I do know I
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 9: like this, and I do know I can I can
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 9: do this. He knows how to coach football, all right.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 9: I'm never ever in the business of telling people what
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 9: to do or make them feel guilty in any of
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 9: that nature. I am loyal to the Purple and Gold,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 9: and I will be until I take the dirt nap.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 9: This will not be. He will not be here for
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 9: all of my life span, and we will see multiple
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 9: coaches probably in the future. This where we're at right now.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 9: I support the guys and the people that are on
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 9: that staff. And that's that's what I know, and that
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 9: and that's why I embrace every season as an opportunity
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 9: and I tell each player, man, you guys, get as
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 9: much as you can, as fast as you can, because
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 9: this thing flips on ahead. We've dealt with it with
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 9: coach Pete. We saw with Jimmy Kaylen came in, we
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 9: thought we found is like, Nope, that's out of here.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 9: And here we are with Jed. I was under one staff,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 9: I was coach as recruiting class, and then all of
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 9: a sudden, since new heisl, it's been an absolute flip
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 9: and flip and flip and flip and flip with this
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 9: Washington program. And I think that this whole program needs
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 9: to take a look at what it takes to find
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 9: the right person. But right now Jed is our guy,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 9: and I'm going to support that one hundred percent.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: How how detrimental is it, because you know, I mean,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: I don't blame him for giving the talk that he
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: did and saying, you know, basically, I like it here,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: and that's what he's supposed to say. And that doesn't
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: mean he's staying and doesn't mean he's going. He just
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: is giving the thing that he has to give. He
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: has to say what he has to say. And yet
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: he did express the throwing my name into the conversation
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: simply because to some degree you've made the bed of
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: You might be a bit of a nomad, you have
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: traveled around a lot, and yet at the same time
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: that doesn't mean that you weren't in love with being
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: here and don't want to stay here and so, but
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: he's saying it's unfair or it's it makes my job
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: harder because of the NonStop twenty four seven three sixty
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: five recruiting that goes on in today's game. How difficult
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: does it make that if he's trying to go into
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: a living room and yet they just read an article saying, well,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: he might want to go to Florida or he might
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: want to go somewhere else. Is it really undercut him
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: in that way?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah? I think it does. I think it did distracts
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 9: from what the real real issue is. Isn't you're trying
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 9: to hire or your livelihood depends on eighteen to twenty
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 9: year old young men, twenty two year old young men
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 9: and guys parents, parents that want something that's parents like,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 9: I'm a parent to I don't talk to the doing
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 9: good to see you. That's it. They're men, the parents, agents, parents, agents,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 9: kids agents. It's insanity, the crap you have to deal
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 9: with and to be a real CEO, and that's what
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 9: he is, he's a CEO. Yes, it does distract from it.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 9: His job is to coach young men and win football games,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 9: and nobody's gonna feel sorry for it, though, because that's
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 9: that's the business we're in, very highly compensated. Uh, and
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 9: it's a performanced based business. So if you don't perform
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 9: at a certain level. And everybody's got a voice, right,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 9: everybody's got an X account, everybody's got free YouTube. I mean,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 9: how many more YouTube podcasts do we need of guys
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 9: in their basements telling us that what's wrong? I mean,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 9: it's all over the place, and everybody's an expert. So
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 9: these are the voices. The best coaches don't listen and
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 9: they tune it all out. And the ones that ask
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 9: and the ones that sit on the game day and
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 9: they talk about it. That's fine. You have to address it.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 9: That's part of your job, all right.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: Last minute, we should spend a little at least a
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: minute on Purdue sixteen and a half point favorites. But
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: coming off your worst performance of the year, we don't
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: have to worry about the boiler Makers.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 9: Do we? We should worry about every game from here on.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 9: Al gentlemen, I don't make guarantees at any point. I
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 9: think Purdue's got some good players. I certainly have watched
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 9: the film. They are two and eight they've been in
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 9: some situations. They have a couple of really good athletes.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 9: They have to go on the road and play in
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 9: Husky Stadium. I would like to see an angry Husky
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 9: football team. But then I don't know what Jonah Coleman
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 9: is going to look like. Adam Muhammad ran very well.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 9: You don't know what Denzel's gonna look like. So that
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 9: means your wide receiver room is way down. Okay, if
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 9: he's done and it I mean we were talking way
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 9: down the offensive line. What's that going to look like?
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 9: All in retrospect, though, our defense played very well. Yeah,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 9: so it did some very very good things. Coach Walter's
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 9: got these guys. They look healthy. The concern now is
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 9: how much Demond take a game over and and be
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 9: competitive versus these last three games, because you got to
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 9: win at home, you got to go on the road,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 9: and then you have your biggest game of the year
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 9: against a very very very good Oregon team who has
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 9: got a lot of confidence and deservedly so. They've played well.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 9: So it just starts this week.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah you the man, great stuff, great stuff. Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be listening this Saturday. Thank you very much.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 9: Thanks fellows talk soon.
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• 1:11:10
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  Speaker 3: already talked about this morning at great length, the coaching
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: matchup and how incredible it is, well, no less than
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: credible is this quarterback matchup? I'm not sure if I mean,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: what would you have said at the beginning of the year.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: Had I told you midway through the year Matt Stafford
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: and Sam Darnald are both going to be top five
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: MVP candidates, what would you say?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: I would have not believed you this reckless at breakfast
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: had too much pino.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: I would have been surprised. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: be crazy surprised. I suppose with with Stafford, oh no, yeah,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: but both of both of them, Yes, I would have been.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: I would have been surprised. And that's a little bit
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: shortsighted on my part. Or apprehensive, I guess would be
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: a better word of whether or not Donald was going
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: to play like he did majority of last year or
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: how he did at the end of last year.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: I don't think that that short sided of you at all.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: I don't think that the resume there was to support
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: that Sam Donald was I mean there was a there's
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: enough resume and enough momentum that supported that maybe he
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: would be better with us, as good as he was
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: a year ago, and maybe a little bit better. But
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think there was anything about his history that
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: suggested he was going to be mentioned with Josh Allen,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: which right now he's even with in the MVP odds
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: in some circles. And that's what we're dealing with right
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: now in the MVP race, is Sam Donald's being thought
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: of as having as good a season as anyone in
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: the national Football Again, Matt Stafford is the favorite right now,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: favorite at MGM favorite Vegas insider that averages all the
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: different sportsbook He is the favorite right now to win
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: the MVP Award, something that he's never done. This year,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, they added Devonte Adams and we still don't
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: know if devont Adams even going to play in this game.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, this is kind of crazy
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: because coaches are so tight lipped about injuries. The real
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: place to find information, for some reason is fantasy websites.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: They yeah, I don't know where they get the information,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: but they're usually more accurate than just about anybody else.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know where they're getting it from, but they
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: say that they wouldn't be surprised if he missed a
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: game or two a couple of the fantasy websites. So
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: maybe he's not playing this week. But to have that
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: dual wide receiver thing going right now and Matt Stafford
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: is just he's a pig and pooh these days. I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: mean the offense, Sean mcvagh calling his plays to elite
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: wide receivers that he has to throw to. I remember
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year I said this about
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: our fantasy football draft. Matt Stafford did not get drafted
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: in our fantasy draft, or if he did, it was
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: really late in the process. He was a free agent
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: at one point, and I said, why is he being
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: rated solo? If you're saying Manikua is a first round value,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: in Adams is worst a third round value, who do
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: you think is gonna be throwing them football? I mean
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: he's he's obviously set up to have a very good season,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: and right now he's sixth in fantasy points and he's
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: number one in MVP.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't think DeVonta Adams was going to be
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: quite as good. I kind of felt like he's getting
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: ready to go over the hill or on the already on.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: The back side of it.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: But Pooka Naku, I think everybody recognized how good he is.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: And and yet, I mean, when you end up getting
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: halfway through the season, and yet twenty five touchdowns to
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: two interceptions, he's.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Got five more touchdown passes than anyone else.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's doing some pretty special things. And
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: again I think that the stats kind of show that
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: they run the ball about the same as the Seahawks.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: And yet the little bit of that I've watched of
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: Rams football, I watched every snap like I have the Seahawks,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: but when I've watched it, it still seems it seems more efficient.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know why. Maybe it's just what highlights than
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks, even though the numbers are about the same.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: To me, the Seahawks look like the vision huh look
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: pretty damnficial.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: No not offense, running the ball, running the ball, But
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: their stats are like the same. Basically, they're both somewhere
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: around one hundred and ten to one hundred and fifteen
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: yards per game is what they rush for both teams.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: And yet it feels to me like Matthew Stafford Stafford
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: and the Rams offense. It seems like the you know
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: how you always say, you know, a balanced offense is
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: when you can run the ball when you need to
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: run the ball, or pass the ball when you need
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: to pass the ball. It feels to me like there's
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: times when I watch the Seahawks offense and as good
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: as it's been and it's been great, that it's like,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: I really wish we could run the ball right here,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: and then they don't, or they can't or it's just
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: not as efficient. That said, the balance of Kiren Williams,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: I think, also just kind of adds something to the
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: to the mix where they're not going like a one
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: in one A. They have a distinct number one, and
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: then everybody else that runs the ball after that is different,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: And I think it opens it up a little bit
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: for Stafford and McVeigh the way they call the game.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I see, I keep hearing this, and I would imagine,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: I would imagine over the long haul more often than
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: not that it is true. And so I know why
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: people are beating this drum. But what I've seen from
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five Seahawks is I don't think Sam
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: Donald needs running running effectiveness to be great, and I
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: don't think Sam Donald needs to spread the ball around
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: the field clear when JSN can't be covered. So I
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: understand that those are sort of cardinal rules that you
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: should try to live by and should subscribe to because
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: history says that that's the way that you are most
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: effective as an offense. But until I see evidence that
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: they have to have this running game that's yet to
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: get uncorked, or they have to incorporate Tory Horton to
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: get more touches during the course of the game, I mean,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: I'm sure that those comments are true, but right now,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing a guy week in and week out that
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: doesn't have an effective running game, doesn't need it to
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: set up his play action pass, and absolutely has eyes
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: for one receiver and that dude can't be stopped. And
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: so I don't know, I'm not worried about it. I'm
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: not worried that we can't run the football this week
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: against the Los Angeles Rams. I think the Rams should
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: be worried that they can't cover JSN. That's what I
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: think should be worried.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: Well, I think both teams have their things to worry about,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: and I'm with you. I mean, until that time comes
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: that they don't run the ball and it turns into
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: a mistake filled game or a game in which the
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: offense doesn't show up. And yet the reason it is
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: a cardinal rule is because eventually somebody's gonna lock JSN down,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: or he's gonna drop a ball, or there's gonna be
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: a I know, they passes.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: To run the ball with Patrick Mahomes when that offense
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: was really cooking. They that was always an issue with them,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: and they just passed their way out of trouble.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. And you know, I mean, if Sam
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: Darnold can start playing like Patrick Mahomes for a few years.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: And he is right now, right in front of our
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: frigging eyes.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know those eye holes those
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: are showing you, Patrick Mahomes, then do your thing, Sam.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just think there's you want to be
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: able to lean on the other side. I'm not trying
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: to take away from it, I'm not. I mean, I
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: think the way the newitch he's played has been magnificent.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: It's they're still attempting to run the ball, that's the thing.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: Like it's he's not he's not throwing the ball as
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: much as Matt Stafford is, and yet he's got the
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: same amount of yards, right, I mean, it's Pukainaku has
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: more receptions than JSN does, but not even close to
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: as many yards. So it's they're they're passing the ball more,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: but then when they do run the ball, it's more efficient.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: Like I remember when I first started doing this, I
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: was talking about the old school saying if you got
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: to run the ball to set up the pass, Well
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: that's not the case anymore. You can pass the ball
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: to set up the run. And I'm just saying I
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: think that they do that we passed the ball. The
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: Seahawks pass the ball. It just doesn't sometimes set up
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: the runner. It doesn't feel like it's set up the run.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: And yet they stick with it. They're still handing the
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: ball off and trying to be as balanced as they
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: can be to where you're not getting one sided, and
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: I think that's still smart.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: Well, they're averaging thirty and a half points per game.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think they should change anything. Even though the
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: running game doesn't look all that effective. I'm just gonna
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: bet that there's something too. Running it that much keeps
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: the defense on its heels, and it has to keep
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: them honest on play action pass, and it is to
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: whatever degree, helping Sam Darnold be as efficient and effective
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: as he's being. So I'm not going into the Rams
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: game saying, Hey, that run game is not working. It's
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: just abandon it. Let's just throw the ball every time,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: no run it as much as you've been running, and
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: set up Sam to be as great as what he's
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: been so far this season, and let's see if that's
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: better than the Rams can put forth on Sunday. I'm
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: certainly not gonna adjust anything. Ashley. In the meantime, I'm
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: not gonna I'm not gonna change things up just as
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: I'm getting ready to play my biggest game of the year.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: No, you can't.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 7: And yeah, looking at so, JSN obviously number one receiver, right,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 7: and then you've got pukinakuas third. But pukinakup Is yardage
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 7: and DeVante Adams yardage combine only three hundred yards more
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  Speaker 7: on what JSN has.
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  Speaker 3: And then Boat.
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  Speaker 5: And they've both been great, both exactly.
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  Speaker 7: But that's what I'm saying, like, and that's only three
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  Speaker 7: hundred yards more than what JSN has by himself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just do what you're doing, Kubiak. I mean, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if it falls on its face against the Rams, then
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  Speaker 3: you gotta go back to the drawing board because you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to beat them eventually. If you're gonna get
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  Speaker 3: where you want to go, you're gonna have to get
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  Speaker 3: through the Rams at some point. But I'm certainly not
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  Speaker 3: gonna change it up now. I Just keep doing what
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  Speaker 3: you're doing. Maybe the running game breaks loose, Yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 3: it does. Maybe maybe we get a huge ken Walker
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  Speaker 3: game that carries the day on Sunday. So keep doing
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  Speaker 3: what you're doing. But I'm not going to change things
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  Speaker 3: until I feel like I have to. And right now
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  Speaker 3: this team man's they're just smoking right now. But so
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: are the Rams. That's why it's just a fascinating game.
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  Speaker 3: It's micked fantastic. It is all right. Coming up next tonight,
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  Speaker 3: the Cy Young Award will be announced. Uh and will
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  Speaker 3: it go to a Seattle Mariner Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 3: point three kh A r f M. You know, alcon Issuate,
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  Speaker 3: so you're out of town two to come in here
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  Speaker 3: and say hello, brought us queen Anne beer hall, breakfast
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  Speaker 3: burritos they were was the day the tree fell? Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: He like, he's like, hey, is he out today? I'm
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: coming in today. That's not how it happened. Oh you
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  Speaker 3: don't think that did Justin come into someone else?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I remember the name Justin.
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  Speaker 4: Probably think Justin probably didn't come in because he heard
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  Speaker 4: the tree fell down. He's like, well, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: what I want to see.
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  Speaker 3: Chuck and Ashley, Well, we just enjoyed Al's presence immensely
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  Speaker 3: and wish he would come back every week. Yeah, it'd
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  Speaker 3: be nice. Breakfast burritos, Al, how are you? Good morning?
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  Speaker 8: Fantastic? And uh, you know Buck, I got to say.
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  Speaker 8: I've been in the corporate world for thirty years. If
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  Speaker 8: I had a nickel for every time I heard the
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  Speaker 8: tree fell on my car excuse, I won't be into
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  Speaker 8: work today.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be a rich man. Oh is that right?
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  Speaker 4: Well, maybe that's because you're Canadian a lot of trees
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: fall on cars, or that's your your go to excuse.
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  Speaker 4: Next time, I'll call you at nine o'clock at eleven
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  Speaker 4: o'clock at night and see if you want to come
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  Speaker 4: out there and help me with it. You can hit,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: you can wield a change. I'm sure I'm gonna say.
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  Speaker 8: You've got to get stealed though, Get a sponsorship in
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  Speaker 8: there for you.
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  Speaker 4: That'd be a great idea, the one I use.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a good point. All right. Well, cracking
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  Speaker 3: last night, lose another shootout, another overtime game. I don't
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: want to blabor this point al, but just getting one
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  Speaker 3: when you can get too in these sessions is starting
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: to get a little repetitive.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, listen, you can look at this from
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 8: the glass half empty, glass half full standpoint. You saw
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 8: a team last night that put their defensive structure on
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 8: display and kept the opposing team to one goal against.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 8: But unfortunately, the glass half empty side is you couldn't
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 8: put pucks in on a team that was playing in
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 8: their second back to back that was pretty decimated with
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 8: some sort of sickness, flew whatever, and had many guys
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 8: with the lineup. Also, the goalie that played in the
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 8: first of the back to back played in the second
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 8: back to back and that's rare. So you know, depending
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  Speaker 8: on what side you're looking at, Yeah, you got a
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 8: point out of it, but you really should have gotten two.
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  Speaker 4: How difficult is it? I mean, we just watched the Sounders.
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  Speaker 4: Basically they lose their their playoff game. They lost to
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  Speaker 4: with penalty kicks, and I know in soccer it's you
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: should make just about every single one. I'm you're not
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: going to nobody's perfect, but it's it's one of those
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: it's far bigger than the guy that is covering it
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: can cover. And yet in in hockey it seems far
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: more difficult. And so what is the percentage that you
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: expect your guys to make when it comes to penalty shootouts?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean there's there's a very select few number
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  Speaker 8: of players in the league that have high percentage numbers
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 8: and high might be you know, thirty percent for you know,
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  Speaker 8: for every every three they're getting one, but really it's
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 8: much lower than that. It's something that you you practice,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 8: you know when you do have opportunities in practice. But
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 8: every goalie is different in the league. Every goal is
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 8: going to play things differently, so you know, the percentage
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 8: is probably much slower than lower than what you would
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  Speaker 8: think it would be. And listen, you know, the the
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 8: ratio of space between the goaltender and and the net
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 8: is very different hockey versus soccer, so you're not surprised
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 8: when the number is so small. But having said that,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 8: it's a skill, it's a skills competition. Unfortunately, that's how
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  Speaker 8: we've decided we're going to end games in the NHL
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  Speaker 8: during the regular season, and there are some guys that
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 8: are fantastic in it and some guys that struggle even
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 8: though they're they're high scores during five on five player
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  Speaker 8: or power play. Is there's something about that breakaway situation,
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  Speaker 8: that one versus one situation that you know, it's hard
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 8: to get over that hump.
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  Speaker 3: Color analysts for yours Seattle cracking right here on the
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  Speaker 3: flagship al Kaniski with US. He joins US every Wednesday.
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  Speaker 3: At this time, I know we're out, got Decord out
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  Speaker 3: for a little bit here, and hopefully it's only a
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: little bit. But got to give credit to Matt Murray
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  Speaker 3: for a third string goalie. I don't know if that's
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: technically true, but certainly the way that the season started,
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  Speaker 3: he was the third guy added to the roster. Man
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: he was terrific last night.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah he was. And it was his second start to
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 8: in two games. So, you know, goalies love flow, and
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  Speaker 8: I think that, you know, once you get a couple
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: of games in your belt, you start to feel that.
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  Speaker 8: But you know, I mistakenly sit on the broadcast last
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  Speaker 8: night that with Joey to Cord out, you've got both
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 8: Philip Grubauer and Matt Murray vying for that who the
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 8: true second backup goaltender is. And I have to amend
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 8: that statement. We don't know how long Joey Tocord's out,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 8: So right now, what these two goaltenders are doing is
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 8: trying to buy for who's going to be the number
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 8: one goaltender. I'll tell you, the way Matt Murray played
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  Speaker 8: last night, he's got my vote right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if he's the one, is it still
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: just pretty much split. I mean, it seems like across
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: the board now in the NHL you're needing too, And
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: so if that's your if you've kind of somehow maybe
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: moved him up the depth chart there, you're feeling good
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: about how you're going to be able to be tending
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: goal considering we don't know how long, you said, Joey,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: the goord's out.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I think what you do is you've got to look
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 8: at the schedule ahead. You know, Cracking, I've got Winnipeg
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  Speaker 8: tomorrow night, They've got Jose Saturday. So the next two games,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 8: you've got a elite, top of the league team and
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 8: you've got a team that the Cracking lost to six
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 8: to one last week. Obviously, you know both teams you
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 8: want to play well against. But you've got to look
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 8: at your goaltender due a route now right now and
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 8: say who's going to play the best against that particular team.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 8: It's not necessarily who's playing the best, it's who's going
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 8: to play the best, because sometimes you get an X
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 8: factor with goaltenders that they always play well against certain teams,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 8: or maybe it was a team they were traded from,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 8: but the coaching staff will look out to those two
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 8: games and they'll make those decisions based on those factors.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: Is five on three like impossible to overcome? And do
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: you like it as a hockey player a hockey analyst
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: that such a great advantage can be given in the
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: middle of a game like that, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 8: Mean it's It's one of those things where as a player,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 8: if you're the person that's on the penalty kill, you
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 8: want to be really careful about not putting your team
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 8: down another man in that situation. Having said that, it happens,
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  Speaker 8: I've done it. I've been on both sides of it.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 8: And when you're the team that's up two men on
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 8: the power play, it's expected that you're going to get
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 8: some great, a high danger chances in that time that
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 8: you have driven. While it's five on three, it's not
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 8: assumed it's going to be a goal because you've still
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 8: got three players out there, plus a goal tighter that's
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 8: playing fantastic. And let's remember that that game last night,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 8: that five on three goal that was scored. Matt Murray
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 8: had forty nine percent of that save. It went off
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 8: his glove, but just the velocity of the shot it
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 8: dropped after he got a piece of it and continued
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 8: in the back of the net. So he makes that
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 8: save there and you know the crack and win the game.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: Won nothing.
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  Speaker 8: So it's not a given, but it's probably going to
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 8: be one of the best opportunities you have in the
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 8: game to get a goal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, whenever you see that, you know you're going against
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: a five on three or just like, oh crap, well
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: there's at least one. There's at least one goal. All right.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: Last thing for you, because we won't be able to
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  Speaker 3: chat with you before the Sharks game coming up this weekend.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: You you tell me, you correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember Wayne Gretzky looking as young as what
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: these Sharks players look like. They look like they're eleven.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: And Ashley tells me it's just because I'm getting older.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't feel this way about
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: other sports. There's something about these young hockey players. The
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: Badard kid in Chicago and like seven of those Sharks players,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: they all look like they're six years old. Al why
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: do they look so young? Al? I don't know.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 8: I don't know if it's if it's space washing regimes
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 8: at night, if it's skin creams, or what. But I
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 8: agree most of them wouldn't be able to grow a
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 8: mustache this month for November, so I question it as well.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 8: I think they get younger every year.
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  Speaker 3: Feels like it. Man, that is a young looking team
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: right there. Just every guy that would score, and they
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: scored a lot. My man, he looks even younger than
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: the last guy. Yeah. Not another team movie, that's what
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: we were watching.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 8: No, absolutely not all right now, thanks man, We'll talk
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  Speaker 8: to you from Chicago next week.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds good. Al Konisky joining us right here on Chuck
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  Speaker 3: and Buck and the team will be in action tomorrow
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: night at home against the Winnipeg Jets at seven o'clock.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: So I'm very competitive hockey every single night from this team.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: But they are not getting two points there the nights
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: they're getting one point. They have a chance to get to.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: They're just not winning consistently in overtime. Something Lane Lambert
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: is going to be working on. All right, one last
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  Speaker 3: thing to close out our Wednesday show next on KJR