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Musk’s Wisconsin Town Hall: Politics, Government Waste, and AI · Elon Musk Podcast

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  Hey everybody, welcome back to the Elon Musk Podcast.
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  This is a show where we discuss the critical crossroads, the
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  Shape, SpaceX, Tesla X, The Boring Company, and Neurolink.
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  I'm your host, Will Walden. Hi everybody, welcome back to
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  the show. Today's episode is an
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  interesting one. This originally aired about 5
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  months ago and it's Elon Musk talking in Green Bay, WI at a
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  town hall event. He takes numerous questions,
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  answers things about Doge, Tesla, etcetera.
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  I just think it's a really interesting interview, so take a
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  listen, see you next time. All right.
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  I love you guys too so well, thank you for coming out in
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  support of this very important Supreme Court race in Wisconsin.
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  It's it's actually something that I think it's it's it's one
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  of those things that may seem like it's obviously important in
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  the in the state of Wisconsin, but I think it could actually be
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  important for the country as well and and maybe for the
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  world. So, so the, you know, so the the
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  House majority right now is razor thin.
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  It's really just a few seats. And if, if, if the Supreme Court
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  is able to redraw the districts, they will, they will gerrymander
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  the districts and deprive Wisconsin of two House seats on
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  the Republican side. Yeah, exactly.
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  The result of that could be that the House switches to a
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  Democratic House. Yes, indeed.
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  And then they will try to stop all of the government reforms
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  that we are we are doing and we're getting done for you, the
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  American people. So, so the reforms that that
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  we're getting done in DC thanks to President Trump and his great
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  team are, are really profound. Really the goal is very simple.
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  It's to restore merit and freedom.
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  So that's, that's what it comes down to.
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  So America is the land of, of, of freedom and opportunity.
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  So we want to, we want to restore individual freedoms,
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  freedom of speech, just in general, get the government off
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  your back. So, and, and then make sure that
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  you succeed in in the United States as a function of your
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  hard work and your talent and nothing else.
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  So these are, these are really noble and important principles.
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  And, and also, and I'll talk about more about this, you know,
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  all night really as much as long as you guys want to hear about
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  it. But but as as you may be, as you
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  may have seen with stuff that we've posted on the doge.gov
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  website and the Doge handle on the X platform, there is a
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  tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the federal government.
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  Like shocking really. It's it's insane.
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  Yeah, it's really wild. So like, I mean, it was
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  inevitable that at least a few Soros operatives would be in the
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  audience. Give my regards to George.
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  Say hi to George from being US AUSAUSAUSA.
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  Yep. I mean, it was inevitable.
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  I was waiting for that one. So I mean, I mean, yeah, thank
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  you. Thanks, guys.
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  Yeah. I mean, I I I mean, isn't it,
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  isn't it shocking how much violence and hatred is coming
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  from the left? I mean, isn't this supposed,
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  isn't it supposed to be the, the party that they claim to be, the
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  party of empathy? And yet they're burning.
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  They're burning Teslas and shooting up dealerships and
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  calling for the death of the president and me.
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  I'm like, guys, you know, that's this is insane.
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  Like, they're a total gone psycho.
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  I mean, it's really like, I totally understand if somebody
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  doesn't want to buy a product. Yeah, it's up to you.
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  It's a free country, you know, but you don't have to burn it
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  down. OK, But much.
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  That's somebody else's car. Leave it alone.
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  Thanks, guys. Yeah.
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  So, man, that the arrangement level on the left is just, like
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  blowing my mind, frankly. I mean, I'm like, what is going
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  on? It's they've just lost it.
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  Next level I'm like it's like whoa.
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  And I, I sort of wonder what's, you know, the, the legacy media
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  is in part to blame for this and maybe primarily to blame for
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  this because, you know, you know, it's, it's really
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  terrible. It's like if, if they keep
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  calling, you know, they, they, they've called obviously called
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  President Trump every name in the book.
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  You know, there's one article that that called the president
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  worse than Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin combined.
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  And like, actually President Trump sort of killed anyone.
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  In fact, he's very good at stopping wars, not starting
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  them. So, you know, we're really very
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  different. Maybe we need to add some more
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  history lessons back in schools. I don't know.
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  People understand, you know what the difference do do they know
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  what Hitler was leading us on? Did it seems they they don't.
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  I mean, it's just indicative of the poor quality of of education
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  pushed by the national Department of Education.
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  So, you know, we that's why we, we, we want to restore freedom
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  to the states to this that let the states decide on the
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  educational agenda and not have something pushed by a bunch of
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  neo Marxists in DC. So I mean it, it is astounding
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  how much anti American propaganda is pushed on on on
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  kids today in schools. It's mind blowing.
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  It's like, what the Hell's going on?
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  You know? So anyway, but on a full
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  positive note, we, we, we have this petition like, you know, to
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  like sort of against activist judges because judges should be
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  in simply interpreting the law and not making the law.
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  So in appreciation for the support of people in, in signing
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  this petition against activist judges, we just want judges to
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  be judges, you know, which is a reasonable thing to ask for.
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  And we're obviously seeing like some crazy stuff in, in, in DC
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  where, you know, it seems like the, it's like any, any federal
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  judge can stop any action by the president, the, you know, the,
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  of the United States. This is insane.
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  Like we, we, this, this has got to stop.
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  It's got to stop it at the federal level and at the state
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  level. But let me first hand out two $1
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  million checks in appreciation. OK, so the first check goes to
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  Nicholas Jacobs. All right.
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  Now I should say that the the reason, you know, the reason for
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  the checks is that it's it's really just to get get
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  attention. It's it's like we we need to get
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  attention. And, and it's somewhat
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  inevitably when I do this, these things, the, you know, the, the
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  sort of, it causes the legacy media to like kind of lose their
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  minds and, and, and then, and then they'll, they'll run it on
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  every news channel. And I'm like, I, I couldn't pay
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  them to the, it would cost like 10 times more or, you know, it's
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  to get the kind of coverage that we get.
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  So all right, all right. All right, all right.
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  You can just I guess take it if you want.
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  We'll get we'll get I think we'll get you a real one too.
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  So and then the second one, second one is to Ek Katarina
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  Diesler. Let's see hopefully here.
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  So, well, and you know, like I said, this is helpful for
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  getting getting attention. And then like, it's kind of fun
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  to see the legacy media lose their minds over it too.
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  So love you too. So, yeah, so sweet.
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  Hello. OK, congratulations.
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  All right, all right, congratulations.
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  So, all right, so we're also going to be announcing, we are
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  announcing now a program, a sort of a, a get out the vote
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  program. That's the web page should be
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  going live I think around now, which is at the America Pack
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  website or just go to the America Pack X account.
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  And the single biggest challenge, I think is actually
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  just making people aware that there is this very important
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  election. And there's both the, the very
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  important election for Judge Schimmel as well as the deciding
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  on, on adding voter ID to the Wisconsin, Wisconsin
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  Constitution, which is very, very important.
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  So it's, it's really, it's quite shocking that that I mean, you
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  can sort of tell where voter fraud is happening, where they
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  ban ID. You know, like, why would you
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  ban ID? Like in New York and California,
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  it's like illegal to show ID at an election.
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  Well, why would, I can't imagine why that would be the case.
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  So, so two really important things is, is really just ensure
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  judicial integrity on Tuesday. And, and then the, the voter ID
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  thing and you know, it's April Fool's Day.
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  So, and it is, it's, it's like, like most people aren't, like I
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  said, most people aren't aware that there is this this
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  important election, but most people don't even know that
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  there's an election at all. And, or if they do, they aren't
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  sure exactly when and where it is.
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  And they aren't sure yet of, or that they don't realize just how
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  important it is. They think it's, well, it's
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  just, you know, some kind of judicial thing that's not that
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  important, but it actually what they're doing.
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  What's happening on Tuesday is a vote for the, the which party
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  controls the US House of Representatives?
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  That is why it is so, so significant.
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  And whichever party controls the House, you know, it, it, it to a
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  significant degree controls the country, which then steers the
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  course of Western civilization. So it's like, I, I feel like
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  this is one of those things that that may not seem that it's
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  going to affect the entire destiny of humanity, but I think
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  it will. Yeah.
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  So it's, it's a super, it's a super big deal.
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  And, and the fact that I'm here in person, like I'm not phoning
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  it in. I'm here in person.
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  I'm. And they're, yeah, so, and
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  there, there were quite a few death threats.
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  I have to tell you, I was like, my security team said it.
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  Well, it's, it's actually gone down from yesterday to today.
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  It went down from 18,000 to 17,000.
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  So I'm like, maybe it's getting better, you know, but you can
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  see like, is it how crazy some of these people are?
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  You know, look, look at the, the, the two sort of people that
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  tried to assassinate President Trump.
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  You know, I mean, I was and what, you know, they both almost
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  succeeded. So it's, it's real.
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  Like it's not like some imaginary thing.
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  So anyway, So what, what we're announcing is, is kind of like
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  a, a block captain program where somebody can sign up to knock on
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  doors in their zip code and encourage people to, to well,
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  make people aware that there is a vote and then aware of how
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  important the vote is. So you can sign up to be a kind
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  of a block captain for your zip code on the America Pack website
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  right now. Yeah.
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  And if you do, it's it's like basically 20 bucks for just
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  taking a photo with somebody. It's pretty straightforward.
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  Just knock on doors in your neighborhood and, and, and give
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  them either a digital or a paper, you know, picture of, you
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  know, Justice Brad Schumel. It, it can be an approximation.
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  It doesn't have to be exact, But and and they just have to say
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  thumbs up and hold a picture of of Judge Schumel and that's it.
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  And you get $20 sounds. It's pretty easy, it's easy
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  money. So, but the the whole point of
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  it is just to make people aware of the election and and say that
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  there is an election. It's on Tuesday and it's super
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  important. Please vote.
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  But I think without something like this where we actually are
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  in serious danger of losing the election.
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  This is very important to put put in mind if you if you look
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  at the betting market odds. So if you look at sort of the
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  Polymarket or Kalchery, but like the betting markets, it varies
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  between 85% and 90% probability of loss for Justice Schimmel.
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  That's the current situation. So we got to we got to pull a
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  rabbit out of the hat mixed level.
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  It's good. We've actually got to have a
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  steady stream of rabbits out of the hat like it's an arc of
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  rabbits flying through the air and and landing in a Bony booth.
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  Interesting picture. Carac could probably make that
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  picture. So that's that's basically
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  what's needed is, is, is we need to generate an anomaly in the
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  matrix. And because I think there's
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  currently the there, the dens are 100,000 votes ahead.
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  But if actually, if just if the people that voted for President
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  Trump simply vote on Tuesday, we will win.
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  That's actually all it takes. Just vote, boom, done victory.
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  So, so we're basically to to drag net the state.
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  It's like everybody's going to mobilize everywhere like crazy
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  for the next 48 hours. And I I think this will be
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  important for the future of civilization.
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  It's that significant. So you don't hear me saying that
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  very often. It's it's a big deal.
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  So vote for judge Supercharged Schimmel.
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  I call it supercharged Schimmel. So.
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  Let's see. So with that, I think we can do
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  some do Q&A if you guys would like to do some Q&A.
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  And I'm happy to answer any questions that could be, you
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  know about those or whatever you'd like to hear about.
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  Because I think if you ask questions that the public would
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  be interested in hearing, then you know, those are those
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  snippets will go all over the place and it will be helpful to
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  the the public, you know, at at large and maybe even beyond,
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  beyond our country. So let's see.
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  Yeah, go ahead. We can just start over there.
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  As AI gets continues to get smarter, won't it inevitably see
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  through its traders propaganda? Yeah.
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  The question is, as AI gets smarter, will it see through its
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  creator's propaganda? I I hope so.
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  I think you can sort of think of an AI as it is somewhat nurtured
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  by its creator. So you have to say what what is
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  the operating principle? What, what is, what is the, what
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  is the North Star of the AI? You know, if it's somewhat
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  corporate AI, it could be like it's just trying to make
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  corporations happy. Or it could be, you know, if
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  it's particularly some of the AIS that, that are trained in,
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  like the city of San Francisco, it's going to have kind of a San
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  Francisco bias to it. Because you can think of like
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  smart people as well as like, you know, there are big
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  differences in, in sort of beliefs among smart people.
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  And so you can expect that there will be big differences in
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  beliefs among AIS as well. With Grok, our aspiration is a
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  maximally truth seeking AI, which is like you always want to
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  try to get as close to the truth as possible, even if the truth
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  is unpopular. And that's our goal, which I
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  think is a very important goal. Hey, nice shirt.
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  Thank you. First of all, Path of Exile for
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  life, but more importantly as we see the the whole world has
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  turned to a fear based mobilization effort.
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  And we've seen that translate into violence and, and the
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  right's not immune to it because it can hit psychology.
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  How do we beat that with optimism?
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  Because that's going to be. Crucial to avoid.
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  Mass eruption of conflict. Yeah, I mean that this needs to
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  be, you're right that the, the the right is not immune from
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  sort of hate and violence. It's not like nothing, but it it
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  does seem weirdly heavily weighted towards the left.
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  I mean, like I haven't seen anyone tearing off like a, a
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  Biden Harris hat like or just like you feel a bit sorry for
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  them. Like, oh, maybe I'm wrong there,
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  you know, but, but, but you see people tearing off mega hats and
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  somebody just, you know, I saw a video just as just just today
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  where somebody was just on, on an escalator.
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  Woman was on an escalator wearing a Maggie hat and someone
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  going the other direction tore the hat over her head.
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  I'm like, what? That's, that's rude, you know,
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  So in, in fact, I sort of find myself in a strange position
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  because I, I didn't think of myself as right.
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  I thought myself as centrist, but then the left went all the
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  other way in the other direction and now everyone's a Nazi.
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  You know, boy, you know it. And I'm like, wait a second, do
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  you know what that means? Obviously not so.
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  But yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I believe in peaceful
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  discourse and that, you know, we make arguments, verbal arguments
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  and and the people decide which way they want to go.
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  But we, you know, we don't engage in sort of shouting
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  people down or, or violence or burning things or shooting
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  things. That's what, that's how
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  democracy is supposed to work. It's peaceful discourse.
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  My question is about USAID. Has the Doge team found any
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  evidence that any of the radical left Democrats like Maxine
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  Waters, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer have received money
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  directly from USAID? And if so, will we be hearing
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  about that evidence anytime soon?
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  Yeah. So the, the, there is a massive
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  amount of corruption, but but it, it is circuitous.
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  So what happens is there's money that obviously it's your
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  taxpayer money that, that is then sent to various government
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  organizations who then send it to, to NGOs, which, which an NGO
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  is a non governmental organization.
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  But obviously if it's a government funded non
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  governmental organization, it's just an organization, it's just
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  a government. And effectively there's a giant
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  fraud loophole, which is that the, the government can send
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  money to an NGO that is then no longer governed by the law laws
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  of the United States. So they'll, they'll send the
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  money overseas to one NGO, then they'll go through a bunch of a
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  bunch of them. And then I'm highly confident
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  that a bunch of that money then comes back to the United States
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  and lands in the pockets of the people you just mentioned.
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  But it isn't circuitous route. It's not like it, it, it doesn't
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  go directly, but let's just say that there's a lot of strangely
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  wealthy members of Congress where I'm I just can't I, I'm
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  trying to connect the dots of how do they become rich while
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  earning? How do they get 20 million if
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  they're earning 200,000 a year? Sounds that's not how nobody can
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  explain that. So, so, so something's yeah,
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  we're, we're going to try to figure it out and, and and
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  certainly stop it from happening.
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  So, yeah, I mean, just in general, this, this the, the
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  whole NGO scam is, is just crazy.
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  And yeah, it's, it's, it's blown my mind really.
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  So yeah. Most of us here are aware of
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  social media censorship, and I know you're keenly aware of it.
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  Thank you for turning around X. Awesome.
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  As censorship picks up in financial institutions, what can
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  you do about that? Are you referring to offering
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  financial services by X? No, I'm sorry being.
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  Kicked off of financial. Or beliefs.
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  Yeah. Yeah, Well, certainly that won't
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  happen during the Trump administration.
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  Hopefully that can be enshrined. And Lowell, which is part of the
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  reason why we need a Republican Congress.
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  So you didn't see any Republicans kicking Democrats
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  out and de banking Democrats, but there were a lot of
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  Republicans that were de banked thousands, which is really
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  outrageous. So.
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  So I think it does seem kind of 1 sided.
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  You know, this like trying to ruin people's lives and
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  financially and and violent protests overwhelmingly is
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  coming from the left these days. You know, it's like, and whereas
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  the right is polite, you know, and fair as far as I can tell.
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  So yeah, go ahead. Thank you for being here.
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  Your comment kind of about the Matrix is kind of ironic because
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  my husband and I watched first the first Matrix in the sequel
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  yesterday. My question is when so much of
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  social media nowadays, you know, whether it be X or YouTube or
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  whatever is kind of curated to like your purse, a person's
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  particular beliefs or even where we have protesters that show up
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  to town halls or or potentially are paid.
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  How do you does America kind of come together?
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  And it used to be where you could have a conversation and
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  have discourse like you discussed and still be friends
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  even if you disagree with kind of some of their statements.
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  When you talk about knocking on doors, like to different
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  people's house, Like one kind of fear that I have is like, even
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  if you talk to somebody, everybody has their own sets of
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  beliefs and their own truths. So I guess how do you get
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  through that? Yeah.
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  Well, I think what we saw there for quite a while was that all
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  of the legacy media and all of the new social media were in
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  lockstep together and they were all parroting the same left wing
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  talking points. And they were suppressing any
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  dissent and any, any so-called right wing or frankly even
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  centrist views. And with that's why I felt it
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  was it was critical to acquire Twitter now X in order to enable
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  that quick dialogue. So it's it's it's only a step in
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  the right direction. And I think you're seeing now
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  once X was willing to to break ranks and not censor
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  Republicans, then you you saw others also started moving that
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  direction. You know, it, it looks like, for
• 28:06
  example, Facebook and Meta, you know, yeah.
• 28:12
  Is they they if certainly Mark Zuckerberg has stated that they
• 28:16
  will be doing a sort of community notes based on the
• 28:21
  community notes of the X platform and and and as opposed
• 28:25
  to having sort of far left censorship Bureau, this sort of,
• 28:29
  you know, the work Stasi essentially reviewing things.
• 28:34
  So that's the step in the right direction.
• 28:38
  You know, there's there's some maybe some hope for the CNNS of
• 28:42
  the world. There's like with, with, with
• 28:45
  Scott being on there, he's great.
• 28:47
  You know, he's like, but I, I mean, I'm sort of hopeful that
• 28:51
  things that are, are moving in, in the direction where different
• 28:55
  points of view are espoused on or, or, you know, heard on
• 29:01
  legacy media and, and social media.
• 29:03
  So I'm, I, I guess maybe I'm actually a little bit optimistic
• 29:07
  about the future. And, you know, on the X
• 29:11
  platform, you know, we, we don't prioritize and, you know, one
• 29:16
  side or the other, we try to be as fair as possible.
• 29:20
  And I will reply to, you know, prominent Democrats, even if
• 29:23
  they sort of say terrible things about me.
• 29:28
  So, you know, it's like, yeah, we should have this discourse.
• 29:33
  And so I, I kind of think at least on the media front, things
• 29:38
  go in a good direction. But on the but, but I, but I am
• 29:44
  kind of perturbed by the sort of how aggressive these protests
• 29:51
  are. You know, where it's it's like,
• 29:54
  you know, there are people at these protests calling for the
• 29:57
  death of the president and death of me and I don't know, probably
• 30:00
  death of others. You know that that's not, that's
• 30:02
  the kind of thing that's not, not cool.
• 30:04
  You know, at the risk of saying something outrageous, calling
• 30:10
  for murder is not cool. Yeah.
• 30:14
  So thanks for coming, Elon. I'm a teacher by trade.
• 30:26
  I have gone through the four year bachelor degree to teach
• 30:31
  the nation's youth going forward on that.
• 30:34
  Yeah. Actually, I'm kind of curious.
• 30:36
  What was that life like? Yeah, well, I got an English
• 30:41
  degree, man. At the end of the day, unless
• 30:42
  you want to hire me, that's about, you know, that's OK.
• 30:46
  Sure. So during teacher college, they
• 30:50
  give us a heat map and it says these are the cost per head on
• 30:55
  each student. The South SE is generally the
• 30:59
  worst, but they're also generally the lowest spent per
• 31:03
  capita on each student. Beyond just that correlation of
• 31:09
  the one text I got in an education class.
• 31:11
  I wonder with your investments in Khan Academy, with the
• 31:16
  advancement of AI educational tools, where specifically you
• 31:21
  can get feedback and these students can get feedback.
• 31:23
  Yeah, absolutely. Where do we see 100 years from
• 31:28
  now? Oh, man, 100 years from now?
• 31:30
  About 50. I hope we last 100 years.
• 31:32
  I've got a jackpot, you know? Yeah, exactly.
• 31:36
  Hopefully we hopefully we were like on Mars, you know, so that
• 31:41
  would be really cool. So I, I do think AI can be
• 31:46
  incredibly helpful in teaching because you can, you can
• 31:50
  essentially set up each kid with like a personalized AI and that
• 31:55
  that AI can then answer questions for each kid.
• 31:59
  And that actually can be very profound in learning because
• 32:02
  obviously if you, if you've got a classroom of say 2530 kids,
• 32:05
  it's, you can't like spend, it's literally impossible to spend
• 32:10
  time with every kid individually.
• 32:12
  Or at least you can spend a little bit of time, but not
• 32:15
  obviously it's, it's a 1 to 21 to 30 ratio.
• 32:19
  So, but I, but what you can do is, is you can set them up with
• 32:22
  the AI and then you can, you know, if things get stuck or, or
• 32:25
  whatever, if, if, if you want to, you can, you can essentially
• 32:28
  guide the orchestra that way. And I think it could be a very
• 32:31
  powerful learning tool. You know, I personally enjoyed
• 32:35
  my English classes in high school.
• 32:37
  Actually, you know, they sometimes I wondered, why am I
• 32:41
  reading Charles Dickens? But, you know, there's some
• 32:43
  merit to reading Dickens. And many of the I actually think
• 32:47
  that we should have a great Canon of English literature
• 32:51
  that, that, that kids do at least, you know, some number of
• 32:56
  the significant works in the English language.
• 32:59
  So. I mean this, yeah, it seems like
• 33:08
  very obvious to me, but yeah. And, and another thing with
• 33:14
  regard to teaching is that I think teaching is a very
• 33:16
  important profession. If you look at the expenditures,
• 33:20
  there's a very big rise in the number of administrators, but
• 33:24
  but not a very big rise in the number of teachers.
• 33:27
  And so that's, that's really the big factor, which is we, we
• 33:31
  should have more actual teachers, you know, and, and I,
• 33:35
  I believe in paying teachers well and, and having a lot of, a
• 33:38
  lot of teachers, but we should say, why do we have so many
• 33:41
  administrators or, or non teachers?
• 33:44
  So administrative expense has gone ballistic, but teaching
• 33:48
  expenses is more or less flat. Doesn't make sense.
• 33:51
  So. First, I would like to apologize
• 33:54
  if you're going to have to America for the idiots you have
• 33:57
  to deal with, for what you're doing for us to improve our
• 33:59
  country. Second of all, my question is
• 34:02
  what is your opinion on the Federal Reserve and do you have
• 34:06
  any intentions of doing anything with?
• 34:08
  That and the Fed. Yeah.
• 34:16
  I don't know. I always wanted to say that, you
• 34:18
  know, but, but I mean, I think there's like 20,000 people that
• 34:22
  work at the Fed seems pretty high.
• 34:23
  It's like there's a lot of people that work at the Fed on
• 34:26
  us things like, why do we have so many people at this at, at
• 34:28
  the Fed and what do they do? And you know, sometimes I wonder
• 34:33
  which one would win, you know, the federal for interest rates,
• 34:38
  the, the federal, the board of the Federal Reserve or a Magic 8
• 34:41
  ball. And I'm like, I think the Magic
• 34:45
  8 ball might win, you know, So then I'm like, well, imagine
• 34:49
  April's a lot cheaper. So, you know, it's like you
• 34:55
  shake it, it says check back again later.
• 34:57
  I'm like, OK, same thing. But but I think we, we, we, we,
• 35:06
  we. What really matters is that the
• 35:10
  government spending, it is, is not far in excess of government
• 35:16
  revenue. That's a fundamental issue that
• 35:18
  we have where the, we have a debt, a deficit of $2 trillion
• 35:22
  and we have interest payments that now exceed the entire
• 35:26
  budget of the military. In fact, that that was a big
• 35:30
  wake up call for me was when the, the amount of money that
• 35:33
  we're paying national debt interest exceeded the Defense
• 35:36
  Department budget. I'm like Defense Department
• 35:39
  budget is very big and interest is higher than that and, and,
• 35:43
  and climbing. That's a disaster, you know, so
• 35:48
  the, the very simple, straightforward goal of, of the
• 35:50
  doge team is to get rid of waste and forward.
• 35:54
  It's it's mostly waste. It's, it's or depending on how
• 35:57
  you know, I'd say it's probably 80% waste, 20% forward,
• 35:59
  something like that. But it's a trillion dollars.
• 36:03
  So that's a little lie. And it's, it's, you know, it's
• 36:07
  got to, you know, it's got to be.
• 36:17
  We, we got the, the another source sleeper agent there
• 36:31
  USAUSAUSAUSA. So I mean to, to be clear, the,
• 36:42
  the, the very simple thing we're doing and we, we post everything
• 36:45
  publicly on the doge website, which is, it's just to look at
• 36:51
  every expense and say, is this actually a good use of your
• 36:55
  taxpayer dollars? That's it.
• 37:01
  It's not it's not super complicated.
• 37:04
  And, and, and the thing that's that's pretty well.
• 37:06
  This is why I like, I say like, you know, I used to be a
• 37:08
  Democrat like and so like, and, and if you listen to the, the,
• 37:12
  the speeches of Clinton and Gore in in the 90s when they, they
• 37:17
  were going on about reducing waste and fraud, it literally
• 37:21
  you wouldn't be able to tell the difference if like who said it,
• 37:25
  Doge or Clinton, Gore, you can't even tell the difference sounds
• 37:28
  exactly the same. It's wild.
• 37:30
  So we're, we're, we're really just trying to restore common
• 37:35
  sense to government and say like, let's not waste your money
• 37:39
  and let's make sure it's spent well.
• 37:40
  And, and that's it. And in, in trying to save a
• 37:43
  trillion dollars of expenditures, what we're seeing
• 37:45
  is off the 7 trillion in, in government spending, let's try
• 37:49
  to see, let's see if we can make it 15%, one 5% more efficient.
• 37:56
  And I'm confident that we can. That's actually not a huge bar,
• 38:02
  by the way. So, and, and when you see the
• 38:11
  when you see the crazy things that the government is spending
• 38:15
  money on, you can see a list of some of them.
• 38:18
  You know, it's like, I don't know if we should be spending
• 38:20
  money on transgender comic books in Peru.
• 38:22
  That doesn't seem like an ideal thing to spend your money on.
• 38:26
  You know, why would we do that? If if somebody in Peru wants to
• 38:31
  do that of their own accord, that's fine.
• 38:32
  But it should be your money that does it.
• 38:35
  So it's, it's just and you know, we shouldn't be paying rent on
• 38:38
  empty buildings. And you know, if, if, if people,
• 38:43
  if I do think there is a role for government, but, but if we
• 38:46
  just need to make, we're just going, we're just going through
• 38:48
  and saying and doing what I would call like an, an excellent
• 38:51
  and, and, and necessary and reasonably trusted review of, of
• 38:57
  organizations and, and personnel.
• 39:01
  So is this, is this person doing a good job?
• 39:03
  Great? Is the role necessary?
• 39:05
  If so, that's good. And are they reasonably trusted,
• 39:07
  meaning they're not a psycho, like we're not talking about
• 39:11
  like political affiliation, just that they're not crazy.
• 39:15
  So you know, what's wrong with that?
• 39:20
  I'm like, sounds super normal to me.
• 39:22
  So that's it. Now, in this process, one of the
• 39:33
  things that we've discovered, which is I think on the fraud
• 39:37
  side, which is a really big deal, is that the Democrat
• 39:41
  administration, Biden administration, has basically
• 39:44
  taken every arm of the of the US government and bent it towards
• 39:50
  creating a financial incentive for illegal immigrants to come
• 39:54
  to the United States. Now this is every part of the
• 39:57
  government, so like Social Security, Medicaid, unemployment
• 40:01
  insurance, disability, even the IRS.
• 40:05
  So you, you can like file out a fake tax return and say you you
• 40:09
  need a, a tax, a tax. Maybe I shouldn't tell people
• 40:11
  this, but it'll actually work. I mean, mostly there's some
• 40:16
  chance you'll get caught, but you can actually file out a fake
• 40:17
  tax return. You can, you can just get a tax
• 40:19
  refund even though if you didn't pay taxes so.
• 40:23
  We're, we're trying to stop all these things, say like, OK,
• 40:25
  well, let's stop the waiting for it.
• 40:27
  And, and we also need to turn off the massive financial
• 40:29
  incentive for illegals to count the United States and, and stay
• 40:35
  in the United States. And this is really the thing
• 40:37
  that is causing the Democrats to lose their mind, you know,
• 40:40
  because they're, they're actually spending at this point
• 40:44
  10s of billions to attract and retain illegals in the United
• 40:47
  States. It's, it's really on that scale.
• 40:50
  It's a gigantic number and the goal is to turn all the swing
• 40:55
  states blue. That means Wisconsin.
• 41:00
  So that's the goal. So with the asylum program, if
• 41:06
  they can get a green card within a year and then they can get
• 41:10
  citizenship as quickly as four years after getting a green card
• 41:15
  because the first year of being asylum, being asylum counts for
• 41:18
  the five year citizenship waiting period.
• 41:21
  So this is this is a very big deal.
• 41:24
  So a number of friends of mine have actually joined the
• 41:30
  government and in order to help with this process and I'd like
• 41:33
  to welcome my friend Antonio Gracias to the to the stage.
• 41:43
  Hi, so does it work? I didn't give you mine.
• 41:50
  Does it work? It'll be OK.
• 41:56
  I mean, Paz Aldrin's still alive and he's he went past the belts.
• 41:59
  Work. Is this working?
• 42:00
  Yeah, it's not. Yeah, there we go.
• 42:03
  So Antonio, can you tell us what what you Antonio's helping out
• 42:08
  with the Social Security? So just trying to review Social
• 42:12
  Security where you may have heard that we found 20 million
• 42:15
  dead people mocked as alive in the Social Security database.
• 42:19
  This is too so crazy. And then you'll notice there's a
• 42:24
  strange trend here where how many Social Security numbers
• 42:30
  were issued? It it's do you want to?
• 42:33
  Yeah. So let me, let me tell you what
• 42:35
  happened here. We we started at the top of the
• 42:37
  system. Can we talk about a lot of.
• 42:39
  We started at the top of the system mapping the whole system
• 42:42
  in Social Security to understand where all the fraud was.
• 42:44
  And there's a lot of great people there that showed us in
• 42:47
  really a lot of waste. And so that came up with a big
• 42:49
  list of stuff they're working on.
• 42:50
  You've heard from that already, but this is what jumped out at
• 42:52
  us when we saw these numbers. We were like what is this in 21?
• 42:58
  You see 270,000 people goes all the way to 2.1 million in 24.
• 43:03
  These are non citizens that are getting Social Security numbers.
• 43:08
  Yeah, this this is a mind blowing chart.
• 43:10
  Yeah, just this, this literally blew us away.
• 43:13
  Like we went there to find fraud and we found this by accident.
• 43:18
  And this isn't political, by the way.
• 43:20
  My parents are immigrants. Yeah, this has been great to us.
• 43:24
  My brothers and sister, all born in Spain.
• 43:26
  I'm pro legal immigration. This is not, this is not
• 43:29
  political. This is not political.
• 43:31
  This is about America and the future of America, and there are
• 43:36
  a lot of good people in the system that pointed this in this
• 43:38
  direction. I want to, I want to honor them
• 43:39
  right now that work in the government today who took risks
• 43:42
  to show us these numbers and tell us what's going on.
• 43:45
  I want to stop for a minute. I want to, I want to honor those
• 43:48
  people today. Very good people, very good
• 43:51
  people. I have been from DC to Social
• 43:55
  Security offices to the border to track this down and very good
• 43:59
  people have helped us along the way.
• 44:00
  I want to thank them. Yeah.
• 44:03
  This number, what this is, is when you come in the country, if
• 44:06
  you're an illegal, there's a couple ways to come in.
• 44:08
  You come in through a port of entry and you can tell them
• 44:11
  you're afraid and you'll get they'll give you an asylum,
• 44:13
  asylum case, you'll get an interview, then you get in.
• 44:16
  That's one way to do it. Another way to do it is to just
• 44:19
  go to the border. Literally this happened.
• 44:21
  I talked to Border Patrol myself.
• 44:22
  Elon was there too. I went to Laredo and I went to
• 44:26
  Brownsville. Elon with evil pass.
• 44:28
  You walk up to a border portal officer and you tell them you
• 44:31
  want to come in. They have a couple of choices.
• 44:34
  They could charge you with a misdemeanor or a felony under
• 44:36
  1325, or they can make an administrative offense like a
• 44:40
  parking ticket. Basically they were told to do
• 44:42
  that, make an administrative offense on the last
• 44:44
  administration and then you will walk across the border.
• 44:47
  They do what's called a releasing your own recognizance
• 44:52
  and they give you an NTA notice to appear, which appear to
• 44:54
  judge. The wait times on judges are
• 44:57
  like average six years. Look at Grok.
• 44:58
  You'll see it on immigration judges.
• 45:00
  There's only 700 of them. This is 5.5 million people.
• 45:04
  OK, So what happens then? Once you're in the country and
• 45:07
  you got asylum through one of these pathways and we map the
• 45:10
  whole thing out, you can apply for a work document.
• 45:15
  You file A765, it's the work form.
• 45:18
  You get this form called the 766.
• 45:21
  That's the authorization. And then Social Security
• 45:23
  Administration automatically send you in the mail your social
• 45:27
  street number. No interview, no ID.
• 45:29
  This is worth like just reiterating it.
• 45:31
  It it's not that it's not. People sometimes think that
• 45:34
  under the Biden administration that that he was simply asleep
• 45:36
  with the switch. He wasn't asleep.
• 45:39
  They weren't asleep with the switch.
• 45:40
  It it it was a massive large scale program to import as many
• 45:44
  illegals as possible, ultimately to change the entire voting map
• 45:48
  of the United States and disenfranchise the the American
• 45:51
  people and make it a permanent deep blue one party state from
• 45:55
  which there would be no escape. Look, if I hadn't seen this
• 45:57
  myself, I'm not sure I believed it.
• 45:59
  I went through it myself and mapped it.
• 46:01
  And Ivan is right, this is true. The defaults in the system from
• 46:04
  Social Security to all of the benefit programs have been set
• 46:07
  to Max inclusion, Max pay for these people and minimum
• 46:11
  collection. That's what's happening.
• 46:13
  We found 1.3 million of them already on Medicaid as an
• 46:16
  example. We've gone through on every
• 46:18
  benefit program we went through. We found groups from this
• 46:22
  particular group of people, this 5.5 million people in those
• 46:25
  benefit programs. And then what was really, really
• 46:28
  disturbing us was why we're asking ourselves why.
• 46:31
  And so we actually just took a sample and looked at voter
• 46:34
  registration records and we found people here registered to
• 46:37
  vote in this population. Yes.
• 46:39
  And who did vote? And and we found some by
• 46:42
  sampling that actually did vote. And we have referred them to
• 46:44
  prosecution at the Homeland Security Investigation Service
• 46:48
  already. Already.
• 46:50
  That has already happened right now.
• 46:53
  Yeah. And the truly disturbing thing,
• 46:57
  though, I just want you to know this a truly disturbing thing to
• 46:59
  me and the darkest thing about this to me, the voter fraud is
• 47:03
  terrible, but the human tragedy that's created is extraordinary
• 47:08
  because what you don't understand and people don't
• 47:10
  know, and Americans need to know, that's why I'm here.
• 47:12
  Is it human traffickers made 13 to $15 billion off of this.
• 47:18
  OK. That's the money that's going
• 47:20
  around the world, moving people around the world to our borders
• 47:22
  because of these incentives. How does it work?
• 47:25
  What happens, hey, if you're in Africa and you're in South
• 47:28
  America, you've got to walk up through Mexico and through this
• 47:30
  America. Who do you pay?
• 47:31
  You pay the narcos, you pay the traffickers, right?
• 47:34
  And we found, we were told by ICE, it's between 20,000 and 500
• 47:38
  bucks, depends where they pick you up to walk across all those
• 47:40
  countries and get all the way up to the border.
• 47:43
  Where's that money goes? It goes to the cartels.
• 47:46
  It goes to human traffickers, right?
• 47:49
  There are 30,000 children that have not appeared on a notice to
• 47:53
  appear already. ICE knows this, 30,000 children,
• 47:56
  270,000 children didn't even get notices to appear.
• 48:01
  ICE told us the kids are being trafficked back and forth across
• 48:03
  the border to complete themes to make this easier.
• 48:06
  This is a human tragedy. It's not just the money, it's
• 48:11
  the people and the kids and how many of these people died on the
• 48:14
  way up here. It didn't make it in what
• 48:16
  happened to them. We created a system here that
• 48:20
  created a descendant for people to come and be taking advantage
• 48:23
  of by these traffickers. And how do you think they get
• 48:25
  paid? Well, you're an African, Central
• 48:27
  American. You got $20,000 or $10,000 or
• 48:29
  $5000 to pay these traffickers. No, you don't.
• 48:32
  What happens? You come in, then you owe them
• 48:35
  the money. You're an indentured serving.
• 48:38
  You don't pay them. What happens?
• 48:40
  What do they do? They kill your mother, they kill
• 48:42
  your brother, they kill your family.
• 48:42
  What happens next? That's what we discovered.
• 48:47
  And I have to tell you, it was, it's tragic to me.
• 48:50
  The tragedy, the human tragedy this created is extraordinary.
• 48:53
  That's the real problem. This is America.
• 48:55
  We don't do this here in America.
• 48:57
  Yeah, we don't do this here in America.
• 49:03
  People come here legally and that's great.
• 49:06
  Elon came here legally. My parents came here legally.
• 49:08
  That's the way to do it. This is this is outrageous.
• 49:15
  Yeah, it's, it's, it's pretty wild.
• 49:18
  I mean, you can see because there's still actually a lot of
• 49:22
  people out there, especially in the sort of center third of the
• 49:25
  country that that somehow think this is made-up by the right or
• 49:28
  it's like some fiction. It's not that it's somehow not
• 49:31
  true, but it is, it isn't. It is absolutely true.
• 49:35
  And you can see that if, if you, if you like, you know, look at
• 49:39
  things like the state of New York, which tried to make it
• 49:42
  legal for, for, for illegal immigrants to vote in the state
• 49:46
  of New York. That was only shot down by the
• 49:48
  New York Supreme Court a few weeks ago and and California has
• 49:54
  made it healthcare available to all illegals in the state.
• 49:59
  And they initially claimed that it would only cost 3 billion.
• 50:01
  It's now 9 billion and climbing. So it's, it's really, if you
• 50:07
  create a massive financial incentive for people to come to
• 50:11
  the United States illegally, then that's what they will do.
• 50:15
  It's it's a very sort of, it'd be stranger.
• 50:18
  It'd be odd if that didn't happen.
• 50:20
  So the the really the thing that is actually has the Democrats
• 50:24
  losing their mind. By far the real reason for these
• 50:29
  attacks and and sort of the burning of the cars and
• 50:32
  everything is that we're going to turn off the payments to
• 50:35
  illegals because.
• 50:49
  Yeah, I mean, because that's not the deal, You know, it's there,
• 50:54
  there. It's, you know, it's not, it's
• 50:57
  not, it's simply not right. And, you know, if, if you look
• 51:02
  at that thing with the Roosevelt Hotel and like, you know, the
• 51:05
  luxury hotels in New York where the Federal Emergency Management
• 51:10
  Agency funds were being used to to house illegals in luxury
• 51:15
  hotels in New York that the average American can't afford.
• 51:19
  And they were given a welcome package and $10,000 debit cards
• 51:21
  and everything else. Like it's, it's super real.
• 51:25
  I mean, it's, it's like it's, it's, it's in my, I think it's
• 51:30
  the, the, the biggest voter fraud thing in history by far.
• 51:38
  And, and more of a, if, if left unchecked, it would have
• 51:42
  succeeded. As Antonio mentioned, the the
• 51:45
  time frame for going from asylum to citizen is roughly 5 years.
• 51:51
  And so all of the people that came in on that chart that you
• 51:55
  saw, if, if the if the machine behind the Kamala puppet had
• 51:59
  one, then you know, they change out the puppet, but it's the
• 52:03
  same machine, then they would have actually legalized all
• 52:11
  those people and there would be no swing states.
• 52:14
  And who added more? Remember it was doubling every
• 52:16
  year. Yes, it went from 1,000,000.
• 52:17
  It was it was going ballistic. Going ballistic and it, it is,
• 52:19
  it is just these people are just ending the, the, the benefit
• 52:23
  programs now, by the way, we're seeing the ramp happen too.
• 52:25
  And these are just the ones that are in the system.
• 52:27
  This doesn't count the other, you know, seven and a half, 8
• 52:30
  million that ICE thinks are out there.
• 52:32
  We don't know if they have numbers.
• 52:33
  The number is totally uncontrolled.
• 52:35
  The voter ID requirement in the state is super important because
• 52:37
  of this, because the Social Security number, it's not
• 52:40
  supposed to be a federal ID number, but basically is.
• 52:43
  That's how you access all the benefits.
• 52:45
  This is why we need voter ID because this thing is not
• 52:48
  secure. You could walk into a Social
• 52:49
  Security office today, today is an adult America and get a
• 52:52
  Social Security number enumerated with simply a
• 52:57
  answering six or seven simple questions and showing some some
• 53:00
  forms of ID that are not federal ID.
• 53:02
  Well, you can just actually make it up.
• 53:03
  Basically you could, you could show basically like like a fake
• 53:08
  utility bill or you know. A medical bill and a school ID.
• 53:12
  Yeah, medical bill and a school ID and you can get a Social
• 53:14
  Security number. And then from there you get on
• 53:16
  the border rolls and then the basic Dem operatives will follow
• 53:20
  the vote. So, you know, the problem with
• 53:24
  this obviously is that if you turn the swing states blue, then
• 53:28
  there are no swing states. And then we're in a permanent
• 53:30
  one, one party system. And as soon as they win that,
• 53:34
  they'll have the House, the Senate, the presidency, they'll
• 53:37
  pack the Supreme Court. Then they'll, they'll double
• 53:39
  down on, on the illegals, just like California.
• 53:43
  So we're like, we've already seen this happen in California.
• 53:48
  California super majority Dem. So but at least California is
• 53:53
  held back by the fact that people can move out of state.
• 53:58
  Once you can no longer leave America, they will be, they'll
• 54:01
  be far worse than California. So the gravity of the situation
• 54:05
  is severe. What close to clean up Wisconsin
• 54:09
  border rolls yes, absolutely. So I mean, it's really simple
• 54:17
  stuff just, you know, having, you know, photo ID to vote is
• 54:23
  like you can't like buy something at the liquor store,
• 54:25
  but voting is a lot is more important than, you know, buying
• 54:30
  a beer. So you're.
• 54:31
  Gonna need a real ID on an airplane.
• 54:33
  Yeah, yeah, you have to play anywhere.
• 54:35
  Yeah. And, and and like the same
• 54:37
  people who said who are saying that there should be no voter ID
• 54:40
  at at voting stations demanded vaccine, vaccine ID from
• 54:44
  everyone. Like, that's weird, you know,
• 54:50
  So, so it's, it's, it's really about just restoring integrity
• 54:54
  to the voting system, which really should not be a right or
• 54:58
  left course, but a course for all is do we do we not all want
• 55:03
  integrity in the voting system? Of course we do, yes.
• 55:05
  Of course, yes. So so so you're welcome to hang
• 55:18
  out and see maybe some questions here.
• 55:20
  We'll, let's see. We'll go.
• 55:22
  Hi, Elon. I also, I am a teacher.
• 55:26
  I was a teacher in Colorado for eight years, high school
• 55:29
  Spanish. But I moved, I moved here last
• 55:34
  year and got to vote in Wisconsin, where my vote
• 55:37
  actually mattered. And I'm so glad.
• 55:38
  That was amazing that we got Trump elected.
• 55:41
  Yeah. And I was listening to you.
• 55:48
  I believe it was Patrick Bett, David.
• 55:50
  He called this perfectly where he said when Elon or when, when
• 55:56
  Trump gets elected, he's going to go from enemy #1 to Elon's
• 56:02
  going to be number #1 and for the reason, I mean, he only has
• 56:07
  a couple years left. And we've all seen the, the left
• 56:13
  go after you and make you #1 enemy.
• 56:17
  And just walking in here, we heard Nazis suck.
• 56:20
  There's all this horrible thing. And just on a, on a serious
• 56:24
  note, I just want to let you know my wife and I pray for you
• 56:27
  at night. Thank you for your safe.
• 56:29
  Who? Guys, I, I got, I got to wash my
• 56:41
  hand gestures these days, you know, but I, I think this one's
• 56:44
  safe, you know, you know, it's like can't wave to the crowd,
• 56:50
  you know, we don't know what'll happen.
• 56:54
  And I've been a fan of yours for oh, like a decade and I've been
• 56:59
  a walking Tesla ad to anybody who talks to me, even though I
• 57:02
  never had a Tesla until I came to Wisconsin too.
• 57:05
  And it's 10 years old, but it's the best Model S I've ever had.
• 57:09
  It's incredible. Thank you.
• 57:12
  But I, I just wanted to take to ask you if they would be OK.
• 57:17
  I brought my dad with me, he's a pastor and I just thought if
• 57:22
  it's OK with you, I would love for him to say a prayer for you
• 57:25
  as well for your protection. Thank you.
• 57:34
  Elon, well, thank you so much for everything you've done for
• 57:37
  our country. We we do love you very much.
• 57:40
  Thank you and. And as a pastor, but just as a
• 57:45
  person, right. And even if I wasn't a
• 57:47
  Christian, and I know not everyone here is a Christian,
• 57:49
  but I think there's quite a few of you here and who, who are
• 57:54
  either way, we, we love all, all people.
• 57:57
  It's that's not the issue. The issue is, is fairness.
• 58:00
  What you're talking about the issue being just and the justice
• 58:06
  being a weapon instead of law fair instead of actually a just
• 58:11
  and, and all this corruption you're talking about.
• 58:15
  And that's a bad spirit, if you want to say it that way, putting
• 58:19
  it nicely. It's it's something evil that
• 58:23
  has come against our country, our morals, our families,
• 58:26
  etcetera. And then you and the president
• 58:30
  and others getting attacked with this outrage and this hate.
• 58:35
  So if you would allow me to pray, you'd all who want to
• 58:39
  please join me, bow our heads and pray.
• 58:42
  Gracious Heavenly Father, we are thankful for our country.
• 58:46
  We are thankful that God does bless America and that God is
• 58:52
  the source of all goodness, love and provision.
• 58:56
  And that you, Lord God, have provided a great nation with a
• 59:00
  great history. And although we've gone through
• 59:03
  many rough times, you're still very present and active with us.
• 59:08
  Thank you for protecting President Trump from that fatal
• 59:12
  attack. And we ask that you envelope and
• 59:17
  protect all of those who are fighting for justice, for
• 59:21
  freedom. For order for.
• 59:24
  Dignity and to reward people according to merit and
• 59:29
  especially put your head, your protection around Elon Musk,
• 59:33
  around his children, around his whole entire family and all of
• 59:37
  his team members that all would do good and just by our country
• 59:44
  and freedom truly and justice would reign once again.
• 59:49
  We ask this in the name of the blessed Savior Jesus Christ, who
• 59:52
  we remember during this time of year, who suffered and died for
• 59:57
  our sins. May you wash away all that is
• 1:00:00
  wrong with our country and start with us.
• 1:00:03
  We ask this in Jesus name, Amen. Amen.
• 1:00:07
  Thank you. Thank you very much.
• 1:00:21
  Thank you. OK, see you you can hang out if
• 1:00:28
  you want. Well, that was that was
• 1:00:35
  beautiful. That was beautiful.
• 1:00:37
  So I think we're going to need divine protection, frankly.
• 1:00:40
  Yeah. Hey, Elon, I'd.
• 1:00:44
  Like to start off by thanking you for all that you've done for
• 1:00:46
  our country and the world at a Greater Hall.
• 1:00:50
  And I mean that from the bottom of my heart as well.
• 1:00:53
  I have a question for you as you go about your decision making at
• 1:00:58
  Doge. How are you able to keep your
• 1:00:59
  moral North star and not set precedents when it comes to
• 1:01:02
  overstepping democratic processes simply because then
• 1:01:05
  justifies the means and have outcomes similar to the last
• 1:01:08
  election with Democratic presidential candidate being
• 1:01:11
  appointed without due process that just further polarizes the
• 1:01:16
  country. Also on a side note, one more
• 1:01:19
  thing, Do you see a place in the long term for decentralized
• 1:01:23
  technology and society and government?
• 1:01:26
  Yeah, I mean, to answer the second question first, I think
• 1:01:29
  generally it's good to have decentralized systems because
• 1:01:34
  the more centralized something is, the more the more power that
• 1:01:39
  is in anyone single entity, the more corruption you're likely to
• 1:01:43
  have. So decentralization I think is
• 1:01:45
  good to minimize corruption. Then with respect to doge, I
• 1:01:52
  mean, as I said, it's it's it's we're trying to be as literal as
• 1:01:58
  possible. It just, it's department of
• 1:02:00
  Government efficiency. And it's just literally going
• 1:02:02
  through and saying, OK, this money was spent.
• 1:02:07
  Is it money that most Americans would agree is sensible or is it
• 1:02:11
  not? And you know, if it doesn't seem
• 1:02:15
  sensible, then we, you know, say, well, we shouldn't spend
• 1:02:19
  that money anymore. We should and we should, we
• 1:02:21
  should stop it. So, and then we post the, the
• 1:02:24
  we're trying to be as transparent as possible.
• 1:02:26
  So all the doge actions are posted on the doge.gov website
• 1:02:30
  and on the doge handle on X. So if people disagree with
• 1:02:33
  something, they we can say, well, which, which part do you
• 1:02:35
  disagree with? And when, when I get these sort
• 1:02:39
  of attacks of like, oh, it's unconstitutional.
• 1:02:41
  I mean, like, well, which expenditure is unconstitutional
• 1:02:45
  that we've stopped because and then they, they don't know
• 1:02:49
  actually, because they don't, they haven't actually looked at
• 1:02:51
  anything. So now obviously a lot of this
• 1:02:54
  can be reversed with a new administration, but at least for
• 1:02:58
  some period of time, we're going to make sure that your taxpayer
• 1:03:01
  money is spent at least 15% better.
• 1:03:05
  It's, it's, it's, it's not like a, you know, I think it's a
• 1:03:08
  reasonable goal. It's a rational goal.
• 1:03:11
  It's a sensible goal and, and the the net result, I should
• 1:03:17
  say, if, if, if we have the combination of a a trillion
• 1:03:21
  dollar increase in the an economic output and a trillion
• 1:03:24
  dollar decrease in the, in the budget deficit, then the outcome
• 1:03:28
  should be that there is no inflation or very little
• 1:03:31
  inflation from one year to the next.
• 1:03:34
  So at the end of next year, you get the prices will be at the
• 1:03:37
  grocery store will be very similar to what they are right
• 1:03:40
  now, which means that, you know, standard of living will, will,
• 1:03:44
  will actually probably be higher, a little bit higher.
• 1:03:50
  Whereas we've had rampant inflation to date, which
• 1:03:53
  inflation is really just a pernicious tax that has been
• 1:03:57
  used by governments throughout history.
• 1:04:00
  It's very tempting for governments to use inflation as
• 1:04:03
  a tax because it's indirect. People see the prices rising at
• 1:04:08
  the grocery store or, you know, for goods and services or for
• 1:04:11
  houses. And they, they tend to like
• 1:04:14
  blame the store, but it's, it's not the store, it's the
• 1:04:16
  government. The government has reduced the
• 1:04:19
  value of money and as a result, prices rise.
• 1:04:24
  So by, you know, changing by, by reducing waste and forward,
• 1:04:31
  we'll essentially make the economy more efficient and we'll
• 1:04:34
  shift people resources from the government to the private
• 1:04:38
  sector. And that will result in an
• 1:04:41
  increase in the output of goods and services.
• 1:04:44
  And, and so the, the average standard of living will
• 1:04:47
  therefore rise. So like they're trying to make
• 1:04:50
  economics sound very complicated, but it's really not
• 1:04:52
  that complicated. The standard of living increases
• 1:04:58
  when the, the, when the output of goods, the average output of
• 1:05:02
  goods and services increases per person.
• 1:05:04
  There's basically more stuff, therefore you have more stuff to
• 1:05:07
  divide across the people. That's it.
• 1:05:10
  And you can, you can run this sort of thought experiment and
• 1:05:12
  say, like if it was 100 people on an island and you'd say,
• 1:05:16
  well, how many people do you want farming, fishing, make and
• 1:05:19
  stuff, you know, versus, you know, doing regulations.
• 1:05:24
  You would say like, well, you wouldn't want like 20 people
• 1:05:27
  doing regulations. You know, it'd be like, oh,
• 1:05:29
  that's too many. Well, then maybe you'd want one
• 1:05:33
  or two. I don't know.
• 1:05:34
  Maybe not ideally 0. I mean, I'm all for a small
• 1:05:40
  government, by the way. I think.
• 1:05:42
  Really. Yeah.
• 1:05:45
  You know, when the United States was, when the United States was
• 1:05:52
  formed, there were only, you know, you had the Secretary of
• 1:05:57
  State, the Secretary of War, which I think is a more accurate
• 1:06:00
  name than Defence. And, you know, but it was
• 1:06:05
  Secretary of war for a long time, and you had secretary of
• 1:06:09
  the treasury and you had the attorney general.
• 1:06:11
  That was it. And if it were entirely up to
• 1:06:15
  me, I'd be like, let's make it like that again.
• 1:06:21
  Yeah. Hi gentlemen, I've got a quick
• 1:06:27
  question regarding government and transparency.
• 1:06:31
  Do you think Dogecoin may ever be used or the Dogecoin
• 1:06:34
  blockchain to be used for maximum transparency?
• 1:06:38
  Well, the names are similar, but they're doing 2 very different
• 1:06:42
  things. So in fact, I was going to call
• 1:06:46
  it like the Government Efficiency Commission, but
• 1:06:49
  that's a super boring name. And then the Internet said, no,
• 1:06:53
  it needs to be called the Department of Government
• 1:06:55
  efficiency. I was like, well, Internet,
• 1:06:57
  that's the Internet is right. So, so we changed the name from
• 1:07:02
  Government efficiency Commission to Department of Government
• 1:07:04
  Efficiency, But there are no plans for the government to use
• 1:07:07
  Dogecoin or, or anything as far as I know.
• 1:07:11
  So that they happen to be similar names, but, but really
• 1:07:14
  it's just, we're just literally trying to make the government
• 1:07:16
  15% more efficient. It's kind of like like most of
• 1:07:19
  the work that's that's being done is it's kind of like
• 1:07:22
  homework. It's not like it's, it's just,
• 1:07:26
  it's just work. You know, it, it frankly, it's
• 1:07:29
  like washing the dishes. It's, it's not like, you know,
• 1:07:32
  it's, it's a lot of, it's not super fun work.
• 1:07:36
  It's just, you know, going through and looking at every
• 1:07:39
  expense and saying why, you know, why is this department
• 1:07:42
  have like 10 times more software licenses than people?
• 1:07:46
  That doesn't make sense. You know what, why, why is this?
• 1:07:51
  Why is the government spending $10 million a year on Politico
• 1:07:55
  subscriptions? That doesn't make sense.
• 1:07:58
  You know, like there's just one thing after another like that.
• 1:08:00
  It's like things that are just kind of kind of boring.
• 1:08:04
  So it's, it's like a ton of boring stuff.
• 1:08:06
  Like you do hear about like the, the, the sort of weird stuff
• 1:08:09
  that makes the headlines, but most of it, most of the costs
• 1:08:12
  that are being cut are just very basic boring things.
• 1:08:15
  It's, it's a, it's a, it's like homework at scale is what I'd
• 1:08:19
  call, you know, the Department of Government efficiency.
• 1:08:22
  Yeah. It's a really good idea, this
• 1:08:24
  question about transparency. Really selling it here.
• 1:08:27
  Yeah, yeah. No, no, no.
• 1:08:31
  I, I, I would say the principles that you want to set out for
• 1:08:33
  DOGE are they begin with truth. Truth.
• 1:08:38
  Find the truth. Number one, find the truth.
• 1:08:42
  Why? Because the government's gotten
• 1:08:44
  so big that actually the people don't even know what's there.
• 1:08:48
  They don't know the source of truth.
• 1:08:49
  So these licenses, it's like people bought these licenses
• 1:08:51
  because they're bad people and they wanted to pay Microsoft.
• 1:08:54
  They just kept buying licenses because Microsoft keeps selling
• 1:08:56
  them from it. I mean, it's just, it's that
• 1:08:57
  strange and. We don't want to pick up
• 1:08:59
  Microsoft. It's like every guy, every
• 1:09:00
  software company by. The way any software company
• 1:09:02
  picks up company X, they they didn't, they bought these
• 1:09:03
  licenses because they just thought they should buy more
• 1:09:06
  licenses, more people coming in and there's no one there.
• 1:09:08
  People aren't coming back to the office, right?
• 1:09:10
  They it's just finding truth. The number one principle is
• 1:09:12
  truth. And then transparency is number
• 1:09:16
  2, I think, on the list, right? So find the truth, make it
• 1:09:18
  public, make it transparent and #3 is man, do it fast, make it
• 1:09:21
  efficient and be urgent. Yeah.
• 1:09:23
  Those those are the principles that you want to put in those.
• 1:09:27
  Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's worth pointing out like, like
• 1:09:31
  it's, it's actually difficult to.
• 1:09:33
  You have to recalibrate how dumb things can be because it's the
• 1:09:38
  government, you know, frankly, it's like Dumber than you think
• 1:09:41
  it could possibly be. So, you know, like, for example,
• 1:09:46
  there we found there were a whole bunch of what I call ghost
• 1:09:49
  payments going out where the the government contracting officer
• 1:09:54
  had retired or, or changed jobs or were dead or, or, I don't
• 1:09:58
  know, they were not around anymore and they forgot to turn
• 1:10:01
  off the payment stream to some company.
• 1:10:03
  And it's, it's like leaving the, the money fostered on and you,
• 1:10:07
  you know, leave the house, you know, and it's just the money
• 1:10:10
  fostered keeps going. And it's a pretty rare
• 1:10:12
  organization that will complain about receiving money.
• 1:10:16
  So organizations. So then you're like, is that
• 1:10:18
  waste of fraud? I mean, the government didn't
• 1:10:20
  send them the money, but they didn't deserve it.
• 1:10:23
  So then, well, OK, we, we should turn off the money spigot if
• 1:10:27
  they, if the contract is over, you know, type of thing.
• 1:10:31
  So one of the things that we we made a recommendation to the
• 1:10:35
  Treasury that that the payment classification codes and, and
• 1:10:42
  the explanation for the payment be mandatory fields.
• 1:10:46
  So, so just and, and have a name attached.
• 1:10:49
  So we could just ask the person who approved the payment, is
• 1:10:53
  this payment a good, a good payment?
• 1:10:55
  Does this make sense? This is the kind of thing that
• 1:10:57
  is, that is normal in, you know, for individuals and, and for
• 1:11:01
  companies, But well, that was not the case.
• 1:11:05
  So the, the reason why the, the, the government could not pass an
• 1:11:09
  audit was because the information did not exist that
• 1:11:12
  it, that would be required to pass an audit.
• 1:11:14
  Like it was literally impossible because you just had all these
• 1:11:17
  blank checks going out with no explanation and no payment code.
• 1:11:21
  So how are you supposed to do an audit?
• 1:11:22
  It's literally impossible. So that's what I mean by like,
• 1:11:25
  it's very basic stuff like we just want the congressional
• 1:11:29
  appropriation payment code to be mandatory and a very short
• 1:11:34
  explanation. We're not even going to judge
• 1:11:36
  what the explanation is, but that there'll be any explanation
• 1:11:38
  at all. And a name attached is was like
• 1:11:41
  revolutionary and and my guess is this will probably save $100
• 1:11:47
  billion a year, like a lot, you know, so.
• 1:11:56
  Maybe they can tell those terms, Social Security information that
• 1:11:58
  people like here too, which is at at Social Security
• 1:12:01
  Administration, it actually had passed their audit.
• 1:12:04
  Actually they've got, I don't know about 100 material
• 1:12:06
  deficiency that they passed their audit.
• 1:12:08
  When we looked at the balance sheet, we found that $800
• 1:12:11
  million had fallen off the balance sheet last year, $800
• 1:12:15
  million. What do you mean it fell off the
• 1:12:17
  balance sheet? That's exactly the question I
• 1:12:19
  asked Elon. Thank you.
• 1:12:20
  Where did it fall to exactly? Where did it fall to?
• 1:12:22
  So I, I, I asked the auditors come in.
• 1:12:24
  Like a comedy sketch comedy routine here.
• 1:12:26
  Where did it go exactly? But wait, where did it go?
• 1:12:29
  Exactly. So here's what happened.
• 1:12:31
  I, I, I brought, I asked the auditors, come in.
• 1:12:33
  I'm we'll give the auditors come on in.
• 1:12:35
  And I asked the auditors. Partner, what did it?
• 1:12:37
  What does it fell off the balance sheet mean?
• 1:12:38
  Is that a gap term or not gap term?
• 1:12:40
  Who's never heard that? What?
• 1:12:41
  Does it mean, well, the payment plans, because under the last
• 1:12:44
  administration you could pay if you owed, if you got overpaid on
• 1:12:47
  Social Security, like if you had, if you're on, if you're
• 1:12:51
  getting SSI or a disability and they paid you too much money,
• 1:12:54
  you got a job. I didn't tell them they paid you
• 1:12:55
  too much money. They dropped that payment plan
• 1:12:57
  to $10 a month Max. So the payment plans went out
• 1:13:00
  past the system date. So if I remember correctly, it
• 1:13:03
  was 2047 payment plans off this past system date.
• 1:13:06
  When it went past the system date, literally it fell off the
• 1:13:09
  system, it disappeared and the officers were supposed to
• 1:13:13
  people, the technician supposed to put notes in the in the
• 1:13:16
  system that this was we collected.
• 1:13:18
  The notes were so bad, the orders concluded this could not
• 1:13:21
  be collected and we literally lost $800 million, OK.
• 1:13:26
  And I said to the order, how could that possibly be?
• 1:13:27
  And she said, well, it's not really a material, it's a one
• 1:13:29
  point 5K program. I said, well, it's material of
• 1:13:31
  mature money. Is it in the computer?
• 1:13:33
  It's. Not on the computer.
• 1:13:35
  It fell off the computer in the computer.
• 1:13:38
  It's in the computer. Disappeared $800 million Just
• 1:13:41
  disappeared I. Mean it's crazy.
• 1:13:43
  So there's like it's one like naughty thing after another like
• 1:13:45
  that. Yeah, it's, yeah.
• 1:13:50
  I mean, it's crazy. Anyway, we're just, we're just
• 1:13:52
  trying to basically fix the computers so that we know what
• 1:13:55
  the heck's going on. Yeah, it's just like, please.
• 1:14:03
  And like I said, being fully transparent with the American
• 1:14:07
  people, so you know exactly what's going on and just making
• 1:14:11
  sure that, yeah, anyway, money is not wasteful or fraudulent.
• 1:14:17
  One interesting statistic was that 40% of the calls into
• 1:14:21
  Social Security were fraudulent, like meaning that it was someone
• 1:14:26
  trying to get a Social Security payment that was going to a
• 1:14:30
  senior to go to a instead to go to a fraud ring.
• 1:14:35
  So that was almost half of the phone calls were fraudulent.
• 1:14:40
  Probably the other half were people asking what happened to
• 1:14:43
  my Social Security. This is true actually you.
• 1:14:47
  Know OK where did my this is bananas.
• 1:14:50
  Yeah, I mean, we, we found this actually the people there at
• 1:14:53
  Social Security news was going on and they had been complaining
• 1:14:55
  about it for a long time and no one fixed it because.
• 1:14:57
  And these were these were most in criminal rings outside the
• 1:15:00
  country in other other places the world that are are jamming
• 1:15:04
  up the phone systems calling in using just these simple security
• 1:15:07
  questions because you can actually this was how crazy it
• 1:15:10
  was. You could change your direct
• 1:15:12
  deposit information at Social Security by simply answering 6
• 1:15:16
  questions on the phone, like your mother's maiden name, your
• 1:15:19
  date of birth, etcetera. Stuff you can find on the
• 1:15:20
  Internet. Easily found on the dark web.
• 1:15:22
  That's why it was so easy. It was a huge, huge exportation,
• 1:15:25
  super open door that I mean, the bank vault was open and the
• 1:15:29
  criminals ran right in and took the money and they took it away
• 1:15:31
  from our seniors, right? So what happened is if like my
• 1:15:34
  dad's 84, he'd go get his checks list from the bank account
• 1:15:37
  wasn't there. They didn't get a whole through
• 1:15:39
  a whole process to get it the money back from the government,
• 1:15:41
  which takes a long time. It's the government, right?
• 1:15:44
  So we we put in a very simple 2FA system.
• 1:15:47
  All this nonsense you've seen the media about.
• 1:15:48
  We turned off the phone lines that are not true.
• 1:15:51
  All all we did, all they did actually we recommended to
• 1:15:54
  Social Security that they put in a very simple 2FA system and
• 1:15:59
  they will 2. Two factor authorization.
• 1:16:00
  That's what she is. And they say kind of the banks,
• 1:16:03
  like pretty simple. You have a bank account, you do
• 1:16:05
  this and you know what? They did it.
• 1:16:08
  They said, yeah, you're right, we should do that.
• 1:16:09
  They went and did it. Good for them.
• 1:16:10
  They did it. No one had the will to do it.
• 1:16:12
  They did it and they're going to keep increasing security.
• 1:16:14
  They've got, we've give them, we've give them a lot more
• 1:16:17
  recommendations and they're on the road to increase security.
• 1:16:19
  Stop all this nonsense so our our seniors and our our people.
• 1:16:23
  They're disabled, don't get stolen from.
• 1:16:25
  Yeah, this is really worth emphasizing because like the,
• 1:16:30
  you know, the radical left are saying that like somehow we're
• 1:16:32
  stealing Social Security. Like, first of all, I like, you
• 1:16:36
  know, I, I don't need the money, OK?
• 1:16:40
  In fact, it's costing me a lot to be in this job.
• 1:16:46
  You know, you had like Tim Walz dancing on stage showing a chart
• 1:16:50
  of Tesla stock, which is a really awful thing for him to
• 1:16:54
  do, you know, because what they're trying to do is put
• 1:16:58
  massive pressure on on me and, and Tesla, I guess to just, you
• 1:17:04
  know, I don't know, stop, stop doing this.
• 1:17:08
  But you know, it's, you know, my, my Tesla stock and the stock
• 1:17:13
  of everyone who holds Tesla's gone went roughly in half.
• 1:17:16
  I mean, it's a big deal. So not, not only is am I not
• 1:17:20
  getting any, I'm not getting paid, definitely not stealing
• 1:17:23
  money and would never get away with it, but the value of my
• 1:17:26
  Tesla stock is in half. So this is a very expensive job
• 1:17:29
  is what I'm saying. And but, but I think it's it's
• 1:17:33
  it's. You're welcome.
• 1:17:52
  Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thanks very much guys.
• 1:18:04
  So, but long term, I think Tesla stock is going to do fine.
• 1:18:09
  So maybe it's a buying opportunity.
• 1:18:14
  So, but the actual thing we're doing is making sure that people
• 1:18:22
  do get their Social Security and that it doesn't get stolen.
• 1:18:25
  So one. 100%. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:31
  Sorry. Go ahead.
• 1:18:34
  Hi, Elon, I got a question for you about Dodge.
• 1:18:37
  Wait, should. Everybody in this room has got a
• 1:18:41
  bunch of money sitting in a bunch of little boxes in a bunch
• 1:18:45
  of different states. And it turned into crickets when
• 1:18:49
  you brought it up online that you were going to go check our
• 1:18:51
  gold. And I'm worried about the
• 1:18:53
  Democrats and Joe Biden's last administration.
• 1:18:56
  Let the money not be in there. Did you get blocked or are you
• 1:18:59
  still able to check that? So I'm not sure I understand
• 1:19:02
  exactly what you're referring to.
• 1:19:04
  Fort Knox. Oh, Fort Knox.
• 1:19:05
  Oh, yeah, Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:19:06
  Yeah, right. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:09
  Well, that's up to the president, of course.
• 1:19:11
  But I think it would be, I, I think it would be awesome to
• 1:19:14
  live stream Fort Knox, you know, I mean, that would be really
• 1:19:21
  fun. And, and after all, it, it is
• 1:19:25
  actually the gold of the American people.
• 1:19:27
  So the American people should, it seems to me, have a right to
• 1:19:29
  see their gold, you know, hopefully it looks really cool.
• 1:19:35
  You know, open the doors. Like, is it there?
• 1:19:37
  Like, is that really gold? Let's check.
• 1:19:41
  You know, so maybe it'll be really, really interesting.
• 1:19:45
  I'm I'm all for it. The president says he's he's
• 1:19:48
  interested in doing it. So hopefully that happens.
• 1:19:51
  So All right. Good evening, Mr. Moss.
• 1:19:56
  How are you? Good.
• 1:19:57
  How's it going? Good, Good.
• 1:19:59
  My name is Vito Gabriel. I'm 18 years old.
• 1:20:01
  This is my first election that I'll be voting in.
• 1:20:04
  So great. They're all exciting.
• 1:20:07
  Actually. That reminds me.
• 1:20:09
  So it is actually possible to both register to vote on
• 1:20:13
  Tuesday. If someone has not registered to
• 1:20:15
  vote, they can register to vote in Wisconsin and they can vote
• 1:20:18
  the same day. So even if somebody's not a
• 1:20:20
  registered voter, you can do it everything on Tuesday.
• 1:20:24
  So big back story. When I was younger, 8 years old
• 1:20:28
  to be exact, my father put me to work in my family's restaurant
• 1:20:31
  and it led me to want to start my own business and to be
• 1:20:35
  successful just like you. And in my opinion, you're one of
• 1:20:38
  the most successful businessmen to ever live.
• 1:20:41
  And So what advice would you give to young entrepreneurs who
• 1:20:45
  want to start their own businesses and give back to this
• 1:20:48
  great country? Well, sure.
• 1:20:55
  Well, it is, it is very, very hard to start a business and
• 1:20:58
  have it succeed. You know, it's, it is true that
• 1:21:01
  most businesses that start do not succeed.
• 1:21:05
  So I mean, I, I guess I'd really just say, you know, if, if, if
• 1:21:11
  there's a product or service that you think is really needed,
• 1:21:16
  then you, you go out and you, you, you make that product or
• 1:21:20
  you produce that service off of that service and, and try to be
• 1:21:27
  as useful as possible. Really, you know, this, it's,
• 1:21:32
  it's like whether you know, it's, it's a great restaurant or
• 1:21:36
  store or a technology company or whatever the case may be, it's
• 1:21:40
  really just like, are you doing things that are useful to your
• 1:21:43
  fellow human beings? And, you know, if, if you are,
• 1:21:47
  then I think the company will be successful.
• 1:21:51
  So that's, that's, that's really what it comes down to is, is
• 1:21:55
  just being, being useful. Like people ask me like, what's
• 1:21:58
  the top of advice? I'm like, try to be useful.
• 1:21:59
  It's actually very difficult to be useful, you know, But you
• 1:22:05
  know, I have a lot of admiration for anyone who just does an
• 1:22:08
  honest day's work, you know, making products or, or producing
• 1:22:12
  services for their fellow human beings.
• 1:22:16
  That's what a company is, you know, that's, that's it.
• 1:22:19
  So, but it, but it, it is hard. I mean, I mean, totally frankly
• 1:22:29
  like that. I generally said if somebody
• 1:22:30
  needs encouragement to start a company, I would recommend not
• 1:22:34
  and start it off starting a company.
• 1:22:40
  It's, it's, it's a it's very difficult.
• 1:22:42
  Like, you know, if you look at, say, the automotive industry,
• 1:22:45
  the only two American car companies that have not gone
• 1:22:49
  bankrupt are Tesla and Ford. So it's a, it's a big cemetery
• 1:22:57
  is what I'm saying. So that's a tough one, you know,
• 1:22:59
  very, very tough industry. And there were really no like
• 1:23:03
  commercial rocket companies that were successful before SpaceX.
• 1:23:07
  It's generally very difficult to make the value of the output
• 1:23:11
  exceed the cost of the input. And that's that's really what
• 1:23:14
  defines a successful business. And profit is really the
• 1:23:18
  difference between the value of the output and the cost of the
• 1:23:22
  input. That's what profit is.
• 1:23:27
  But it's like Shahili, hard to make the output more valuable
• 1:23:32
  than the input. That's what I've found.
• 1:23:36
  Yeah. So all right.
• 1:23:41
  Hi Elon, thank you so much for being here.
• 1:23:44
  Would you agree with me that the economic illiteracy in this
• 1:23:48
  country is staggering, that people don't understand?
• 1:23:51
  How close we, Yeah, I would say that that is true America to
• 1:23:57
  going over the fiscal Cliff. Yeah, right.
• 1:24:01
  Yes, most people actually, I think most people, well, I think
• 1:24:04
  a lot of people don't know what a national debt is.
• 1:24:08
  Like how did this national debt come about?
• 1:24:10
  And, and how come there's all this money that somehow we owed,
• 1:24:14
  but we didn't sign up to be to owing this money.
• 1:24:18
  But there's, you know, it's over $30 trillion of, of national
• 1:24:21
  debt and that, that doesn't count future obligations.
• 1:24:25
  So, and, and that that's just then it doesn't count state and
• 1:24:29
  state and local debt. So it's, it's a lot of
• 1:24:33
  basically, it's a lot of money that the government has signed
• 1:24:36
  everyone in America up for. And yeah, so, so there's if, if
• 1:24:43
  we, if we don't do something about it, then eventually there
• 1:24:46
  won't be any, any money for anything.
• 1:24:49
  We'll just be paying interest, you know, a company or sorry, I
• 1:24:54
  should say a country is much like a person.
• 1:24:58
  It's just, it's just bigger. A country is a collection of
• 1:25:01
  people, but just like a person can go bankrupt, a country
• 1:25:07
  collectively can also go de facto bankrupt, essentially by
• 1:25:11
  diluting the currency to where it's worthless.
• 1:25:13
  And that's, that's where we're headed unless we are, you know,
• 1:25:19
  take immediate and dramatic action with respect to
• 1:25:22
  government spending. That's we're we're in deep
• 1:25:26
  trouble basically. You've seen this in places like
• 1:25:28
  Venezuela. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:25:30
  So in a lot of countries where it's, I think things have gone
• 1:25:36
  to hell in a handbasket and it's like, we just need to not do
• 1:25:39
  that, you know. So if, you know, if the ship of
• 1:25:44
  America sinks, we all sink with it.
• 1:25:47
  You know, this is something that I try to tell people that in, in
• 1:25:51
  the sort of commercial sector that like, you're not going to,
• 1:25:55
  your company's not going to make it if the ship of America sinks.
• 1:25:58
  So we're all going to like, you know, work together here to make
• 1:26:01
  sure it does not. Antonio, feel free to ad Lib a
• 1:26:11
  as you wish me. I know I I this is the only
• 1:26:15
  place left to go. That's great.
• 1:26:16
  Right, exactly. I don't think we can run off to
• 1:26:18
  some other country and be OK. It's America, you know?
• 1:26:22
  I will die in America. I'm not going anywhere.
• 1:26:26
  I will too. I mean, I might go to Mars, but
• 1:26:32
  that will be part of America. Yeah.
• 1:26:37
  Hi. Elon, thank you so much for
• 1:26:45
  taking the time out of your busy schedule to be here today with
• 1:26:48
  us in Green Bay, WI. Yeah, I just want to say that,
• 1:26:55
  Dozier. 'S findings demonstrate to the
• 1:26:57
  American people that the government clearly does not care
• 1:27:00
  about our hard earned tax dollars.
• 1:27:03
  I've I'm only 26, but I can imagine it's frustrating for
• 1:27:08
  people who have worked their entire lives to see their tax
• 1:27:12
  dollars going to fraud, waste and abuse.
• 1:27:15
  And you alone have contributed so much money to our government,
• 1:27:21
  Yes, via taxes. So thank you.
• 1:27:22
  You're welcome. I'm sorry that your money's not
• 1:27:25
  being spent very well. I you've clearly shown your
• 1:27:31
  leadership and team is capable of transforming our government
• 1:27:35
  into something better than what we see today.
• 1:27:39
  I just want to say I'm sure I'm not the only one who's
• 1:27:43
  wondering, but we know that DOGE has found quite a bit of money
• 1:27:48
  and we would like to see some of that returned to the American
• 1:27:52
  people. Do you have any information on
• 1:27:55
  when DOGE checks would be written or sent out?
• 1:28:01
  Sure. Well, I guess we we need to be
• 1:28:04
  successful at scale. We've made a lot of progress,
• 1:28:09
  but there's still a tremendous amount of work to do effectively
• 1:28:14
  by as government spending is made more efficient and spending
• 1:28:18
  is reduced, the the tax buy inflation is reduced.
• 1:28:22
  So one way or another, you will effectively be better off if
• 1:28:29
  resources in the United States are not wasted.
• 1:28:33
  So, and it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, somewhat up to the
• 1:28:40
  Congress and, and maybe the president to, you know, as to
• 1:28:43
  whether specific checks are cut. But but whether a check is cut
• 1:28:48
  or not, if you reduce wasteful spending, the the economy is
• 1:28:54
  going to be better off. There will be people will do
• 1:28:56
  more useful jobs than before, the total output of goods and
• 1:29:00
  services will increase, and then the average standard of living
• 1:29:03
  will increase. So that's.
• 1:29:06
  Yeah, I think the most important lesson in economics is simply
• 1:29:17
  common sense that the the more people in a country that are
• 1:29:22
  engaged in producing useful products and services, the
• 1:29:25
  better off that country will be. Like you could you could run the
• 1:29:29
  sort of thought experiment to say in the limit, if we moved
• 1:29:32
  everyone in the car industry into the DMV, there would be no
• 1:29:36
  cars, but there would be a lot of regulators.
• 1:29:39
  So then you say, well, OK, well then how many people should be
• 1:29:42
  in the government versus not government?
• 1:29:44
  And generally, I think you want to want to minimize the number
• 1:29:47
  of people in government. This will be a lot of people in
• 1:29:50
  government, but you want to keep that to a minimum and move
• 1:29:53
  people from low to negative productivity roles to high
• 1:29:57
  productivity roles in the private sector.
• 1:30:05
  Hey, Elon. So the first time I heard about
• 1:30:08
  population collapse, I think was from you on Joe Rogan.
• 1:30:11
  I grew up in the generation where it was very
• 1:30:14
  overpopulation, global warming. A lot of people don't want to
• 1:30:16
  have kids. My wife and I just had our
• 1:30:18
  first. She's a year.
• 1:30:19
  Congratulations. Hi, John.
• 1:30:21
  Thank you. And I'm finding out very quickly
• 1:30:25
  a lot of these things I was told about having kids, losing
• 1:30:28
  personal freedom. It's well worth it.
• 1:30:30
  I mean, I, I would recommend it to everybody as I'm sure you
• 1:30:32
  wouldn't we absolutely. I I mean, I've been banging the
• 1:30:35
  baby drum for ages. Yes.
• 1:30:38
  So my question to you is, what's the most surprising and
• 1:30:41
  fulfilling thing you've learned from your kids, Especially we've
• 1:30:44
  seen you around X all the time with Trump.
• 1:30:46
  So what's your most fulfilling thing you've learned from having
• 1:30:48
  kids? Yeah, X is, X is in the back
• 1:30:50
  there. He, you know, so hopefully
• 1:30:55
  watching this, hopefully, yeah, I, I think, you know, I, I think
• 1:31:00
  nothing makes you happier than kids really is, is what is the
• 1:31:03
  truth of it. So, you know, kids will make
• 1:31:08
  greatest souls to happiness. And I really encourage, as
• 1:31:15
  Antonio knows, I've encouraged your boyfriends and everyone to
• 1:31:17
  have kids. It is, it is concerning, you
• 1:31:22
  know, the, the United States has been below replacement rate.
• 1:31:26
  The birth rate in the United States has been below
• 1:31:28
  replacement rate since roughly when I was born around 197071
• 1:31:34
  thereabouts. And I think last year was the
• 1:31:37
  lowest birth rate on record. It was very, it was very low.
• 1:31:41
  And then we're seeing this trend in almost every country on
• 1:31:44
  earth. This is this is worrying because
• 1:31:47
  it's like, well, if something doesn't happen, humanity is
• 1:31:52
  going to disappear. So it's I think very important
• 1:31:57
  to have kids. Like it's kids will make you
• 1:32:04
  very happy. But there's also like, we got to
• 1:32:07
  keep humanity going here. No, No humans, no humanity.
• 1:32:11
  It's Elon practically preaches too, by the way.
• 1:32:13
  He's having lots of kids. Sorry, you, you practice what
• 1:32:16
  you preach. And yeah, for sure he tells all
• 1:32:18
  his friends to do it too. I can tell you that for sure for
• 1:32:20
  sure. Yeah, so all right.
• 1:32:27
  Hi, thanks for coming. My name is Adam.
• 1:32:29
  I'm a postal worker. I'm wondering if you could give
• 1:32:32
  some insight into some of the reforms or changes that those
• 1:32:36
  you might be looking at for the Postal Service.
• 1:32:39
  Well, actually maybe perhaps I can ask you what, what, what
• 1:32:42
  should those be doing with respect to the Postal Service?
• 1:32:46
  I'll write you a letter. OK.
• 1:32:47
  OK. I, I suspect you've seen that
• 1:32:54
  things are not entirely perfect in the Postal Service.
• 1:32:59
  Yeah, yes. So I mean, obviously there's
• 1:33:03
  it's, you know, delivering mail and packages is very important.
• 1:33:10
  Yeah, there's a reason for why the Postal Service was created.
• 1:33:15
  But, and I haven't really had a chance to look at the Postal
• 1:33:19
  Service yet, but I. Have a little detail on the
• 1:33:23
  analysis if you want. You do a little bit.
• 1:33:25
  OK, sure. Yeah.
• 1:33:26
  I mean, I wouldn't say that I want to be very general here,
• 1:33:28
  but there is this thing about, you could tell us like there's
• 1:33:32
  this thing about large volume users, Postal Service versus
• 1:33:35
  small, small volume users, right?
• 1:33:37
  So like some company? Please, I've heard.
• 1:33:39
  I've heard of that, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you probably see
• 1:33:41
  it, right? Like you see there's some
• 1:33:43
  companies in the world that use posters a lot and pay the same
• 1:33:45
  rate as everybody in this room that uses it a little bit.
• 1:33:47
  Does that seem fair to you? You see it on the front line I.
• 1:33:52
  Can't really see it. Well, he can't say because he
• 1:33:53
  works there. You.
• 1:33:54
  Know, OK, doesn't seem fair to me.
• 1:33:55
  I don't work there. Yeah.
• 1:33:57
  So I mean there are there's a bunch of questions about this
• 1:33:59
  people are asking that I think are interesting analysis.
• 1:34:02
  And when you you look at the source of truth and the data and
• 1:34:05
  you make that transparent, I think it's gonna be obvious what
• 1:34:08
  the right answers are. Yeah, it seems like some
• 1:34:10
  companies are not being charged the right amount for package
• 1:34:13
  delivery and there's probably more administrative overhead
• 1:34:18
  than there should be. Would be some safe guesses I
• 1:34:20
  suspect. Those are good guesses, Yeah.
• 1:34:23
  Yeah, good guesses, all right. Elon, how are you?
• 1:34:27
  Yo, good. Hey, how's it going?
• 1:34:29
  It's you, your #1 reply guy on X.
• 1:34:32
  Hey, it's Scott Prosser. It's good to finally beat in
• 1:34:33
  person. Cool.
• 1:34:34
  So I'm glad you like a lot of my stuff.
• 1:34:36
  Yeah. Honestly, replying to my stuff,
• 1:34:38
  liking my stuff. And I love to create material
• 1:34:40
  because I'm a former Democrat myself, just like you.
• 1:34:42
  Yeah. And I want to help bring over
• 1:34:43
  moderate voters from the Democrat Party who are
• 1:34:45
  disenfranchised. Yeah.
• 1:34:46
  And I'd love to be able to create more content to help you
• 1:34:49
  out, to help us win more elections, to win the midterms
• 1:34:51
  for 2028. And.
• 1:34:52
  Sounds good, would I be able to get a follow up from your main
• 1:34:55
  because you followed me from your old cyber gamer?
• 1:34:57
  I did OK, yeah, at this point I yeah, sure, I'll do that.
• 1:35:05
  Sure. I mean, it's right now I used to
• 1:35:09
  only follow maybe a few 100 accounts, which it was possible
• 1:35:14
  to read a lot, most of what they posted.
• 1:35:18
  But now I think I follow like 1100 accounts, which makes it
• 1:35:21
  impossible. So, so like it's just like I
• 1:35:24
  could only see a few things that people post at random
• 1:35:26
  essentially. So yeah, but I'm trying to
• 1:35:32
  digest as much information as my human brain can manage.
• 1:35:37
  So, but yeah, thanks for your engagement and just you know, in
• 1:35:43
  general like try to report on what's really happening is
• 1:35:47
  great. Thank you.
• 1:35:48
  Thank. You, Mr. Moss, thank you so much
• 1:35:55
  for being here and bringing attention to what's going on
• 1:35:58
  with our Supreme Court here. It's very important.
• 1:36:00
  And I think it would have gotten no attention, not even half of
• 1:36:04
  what it's getting now, if you hadn't stepped in for good or
• 1:36:08
  bad. Yeah, you get a press then good
• 1:36:10
  press. You think no, exactly.
• 1:36:12
  The, the, the, it's totally, I mean, obviously for us, any kind
• 1:36:18
  of special election is going to get a fraction, a small fraction
• 1:36:21
  of the attention of a say a presidential election.
• 1:36:25
  And, and then, you know, normally a, an election for a
• 1:36:31
  judge would not be that big of a deal.
• 1:36:33
  It just so happens that this, in this case, it could decide the
• 1:36:37
  control of the US House of Representatives, which is a
• 1:36:41
  yeah, a huge deal. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:36:44
  My personal experience with Judge Crawford, I am a family
• 1:36:49
  that she moved a pedophile right next to.
• 1:36:52
  Our what? Really.
• 1:36:53
  Yeah, it is a true story, the end ads that you're hearing from
• 1:36:57
  Mr. Schimmel. I am one of the home owners that
• 1:37:00
  had to live next to him for many years unaware.
• 1:37:04
  So the letter that I wrote to her I'm sure played into what we
• 1:37:08
  are experiencing now in family court family.
• 1:37:12
  We're veterans 20 years. It just wasn't good for him.
• 1:37:15
  It was not good for me. And we're trying to work through
• 1:37:19
  our family court situation. But what we're realizing is the
• 1:37:22
  2 strategies that they use are indoctrination or intimidation.
• 1:37:27
  And if if you step up and say we're practicing Catholic
• 1:37:30
  family, the result is her band of Mary Rogue judges and the
• 1:37:37
  court affiliates and the commissioners will flood the
• 1:37:43
  family court, have flooded the family court system.
• 1:37:46
  So I guess my question would be, regardless of what happens with
• 1:37:50
  this very important vote, let's not forget what's happening in
• 1:37:54
  the family court system in Dane County, Wisconsin, that's being
• 1:37:57
  flooded with these rogue judges and affiliates and commissioners
• 1:38:02
  who then, if you don't subscribe to what they're saying, they
• 1:38:06
  will just wipe out your ability to raise your family or proceed
• 1:38:11
  with your family in a way that you feel your culture dictates,
• 1:38:16
  your religion dictates, your financial background dictates.
• 1:38:21
  It has gone completely bananas and I'm wondering what you can
• 1:38:26
  do to keep the light shine on our court system in Dane County.
• 1:38:30
  It does have a lasting effect on families and it will breed out
• 1:38:34
  our ability to raise our families in the spirit in which
• 1:38:37
  we feel is most healthy for our our young, our children and and
• 1:38:43
  the sanctity of our family. Absolutely.
• 1:38:54
  I think that's fundamental to life, liberty and the pursuit of
• 1:38:58
  happiness, which is the foundation of America, that you
• 1:39:02
  know, that, that you, you should have control over your family,
• 1:39:05
  not the state. The state should not have
• 1:39:07
  control over your family. It's insane that people would
• 1:39:09
  think that so. We've had friends have to escape
• 1:39:16
  California because of this. Yeah.
• 1:39:17
  Yeah. I mean, it's literally had to
• 1:39:18
  leave because the state tried to dictate their kids, because
• 1:39:20
  they're imposing the state's values on the kids and they
• 1:39:23
  literally had to leave overnight.
• 1:39:24
  More than one friend we've had the story.
• 1:39:26
  Really. Really.
• 1:39:28
  Yeah, no, there's a thing changed the law in California
• 1:39:31
  where if the teachers determine that it's in the kids interest,
• 1:39:38
  like like if you don't respect like, you know, I don't know, 10
• 1:39:41
  year olds pronouns or something, the the like the state can take
• 1:39:45
  your kid in California. So it's, it's insane, you know,
• 1:39:52
  it's, it's it's state, state forced indoctrination.
• 1:39:56
  And if you, if you don't match their, you know, whatever the,
• 1:40:01
  the, the state wants, then they can take your kid in California.
• 1:40:04
  It's a big deal. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:40:07
  So it should just be, you know, family should have control over
• 1:40:10
  their own circumstances and it should not be the government
• 1:40:14
  that decides what how your children should be raised.
• 1:40:24
  Hey, Elan, my name is Jack. There's a lot of questions.
• 1:40:27
  I see. There it is.
• 1:40:29
  We were gonna answer everything at this point, but I'm sorry.
• 1:40:33
  Please go ahead. Sorry.
• 1:40:34
  Go ahead. Thank you for taking the
• 1:40:35
  questions. Yeah, Yeah, a lot of people.
• 1:40:36
  I agree. So I just I was wondering, I've
• 1:40:40
  seen I noticed that there was another a second Nexzilla being
• 1:40:43
  built. At the star base.
• 1:40:45
  Are we gonna be go for launch for the Artemis mission coming
• 1:40:48
  up? That's a very sort of space
• 1:40:52
  question. So there's, there are, there are
• 1:40:58
  two towers in South Texas and then two and they were planning
• 1:41:02
  to build 2 towers at the Cape in Florida and then probably some,
• 1:41:07
  some more elsewhere in the future.
• 1:41:08
  But there will be, there'll be twin towers at the Cape and twin
• 1:41:12
  towers in South Texas Starbase. So, all right.
• 1:41:18
  Hey, Elon, good to meet you. Thank you for everything you're
• 1:41:22
  doing for the country and the world.
• 1:41:25
  Thank you. I I have two questions.
• 1:41:27
  They asked me to keep it short. Sure.
• 1:41:30
  Well, we one, when do you when do you vision solving blindness
• 1:41:36
  and bringing that to the masses or it'll be for everyone.
• 1:41:40
  And the other is is robotaxi on schedule?
• 1:41:46
  Yeah. Well, it's certainly a wide
• 1:41:49
  range of questions tonight. The yes.
• 1:41:51
  So for Neurolink, we've actually had Neurolink has had in monkeys
• 1:41:57
  a working, you know, device we call Blindsight, where it's been
• 1:42:06
  working well and monkeys are healthy for a few years now.
• 1:42:09
  And we're hoping later this year to do our first device implant
• 1:42:15
  for human enabling someone who is completely blind to C, It's
• 1:42:19
  going to be low res at first, like Atari graphics, you know,
• 1:42:21
  so I want to set expectations appropriately.
• 1:42:24
  So it'll start off with like very low res, but then over
• 1:42:28
  time, I think eventually the implant would enable vision that
• 1:42:32
  is like superhuman. So that would be, that would be
• 1:42:36
  pretty cool. And then, yeah, things are
• 1:42:39
  currently on track to do unsupervised full self driving
• 1:42:45
  in Austin in June. So I think we probably will,
• 1:42:56
  we'll take maybe four more questions.
• 1:42:58
  So just two from that side and two from that side and then
• 1:43:01
  we'll call it a night. So go ahead.
• 1:43:04
  Thank you so much. First of all, you are beyond
• 1:43:06
  absolutely legendary and an absolute true hero.
• 1:43:09
  So thank you so much for everything you're doing,
• 1:43:11
  achieving, accomplishing. You've on so many impossibles.
• 1:43:14
  It is astonishing. Thank you.
• 1:43:17
  My name is Brian Wright, and I've been filming from last year
• 1:43:20
  all the way into this year, a docu series on finding peace.
• 1:43:24
  And during this election year, the episode was how many lines
• 1:43:27
  do we actually need to cross in order to be able to find peace?
• 1:43:31
  And I wanted to ask you, where do you feel like we are in this
• 1:43:34
  way, this divide? Are we so far divided as to
• 1:43:36
  where there's no coming back to the middle?
• 1:43:38
  Or where do you see us being? Yeah, we, we we should restore
• 1:43:46
  the Smith might act so that we, the government cannot spy or
• 1:43:49
  issue propaganda to the people. So yeah, I don't know.
• 1:44:00
  I mean, I kind of thought that we're headed in a good direction
• 1:44:06
  for a while there and then. And then the last, you know,
• 1:44:08
  month or so, there have been these like, like crazy violent
• 1:44:12
  things happening against Tesla and, and partising me and
• 1:44:16
  whatnot. And I'm like, this is just nuts,
• 1:44:18
  you know, and, and, and, you know, a lot of people sort of
• 1:44:22
  perforating signs around saying that, you know, that President
• 1:44:26
  Trump and, you know, should die type of thing.
• 1:44:28
  And I'm like, this is really nuts, you know, But I think the,
• 1:44:31
  the real issue is like, like who's organizing and funding
• 1:44:34
  that? Like the, the, the same people
• 1:44:37
  that organized and funded the, you know, the, the infiltrators,
• 1:44:41
  you know, who, who the Heckle is earlier tonight.
• 1:44:44
  So it's, it's, it's whoever they are, you know, and I guess we
• 1:44:47
  know of some of their names, but it's really yeah, yeah.
• 1:44:51
  Saw us and a bunch of others. I'm not sure really what I
• 1:44:58
  sometimes I wonder what is their goal?
• 1:44:59
  Like what, what's what's their aim?
• 1:45:01
  You know, I guess is it communism, I guess is a part of
• 1:45:06
  it or just I don't know. Sometimes I want to like, have
• 1:45:11
  they thought through what they're if they'd say they got
• 1:45:13
  their goal, what then what you know, so I don't know.
• 1:45:18
  I'm hopeful that things calm down, that there's, you know, we
• 1:45:23
  gauge that, that people engage in like dialogue, but not not
• 1:45:27
  violence. And that, you know, if for those
• 1:45:31
  who, who do push violence and destruction of property and
• 1:45:35
  intimidation, obviously they, they need to face legal
• 1:45:40
  consequences for that. So, and the president has said
• 1:45:50
  that, you know, that that needs to happen.
• 1:45:52
  Obviously, if people are pushing violence and destruction of
• 1:45:55
  property, that that is against the law and they, they need to
• 1:45:58
  face the consequences of that. So thank you.
• 1:46:01
  Yeah, Elon. Thank you, Elon.
• 1:46:06
  I constantly hear that the doge efforts are going to do things
• 1:46:10
  like take away Social Security payments and reduce other
• 1:46:14
  government payments like that. You've touched on it tonight,
• 1:46:17
  but. Can you stay to stay to you've
• 1:46:21
  discussed that length over the last few months, yeah.
• 1:46:23
  You talk talk again about how the Doge efforts are actually
• 1:46:27
  going to affect things like the payments and other programs like
• 1:46:30
  that. Yeah, I guess it would be
• 1:46:32
  helpful because so I just stated as crisply and clearly as
• 1:46:36
  possible that DOGE will absolutely ensure that people
• 1:46:42
  get their Social Security, make sure they get their Social
• 1:46:44
  Security, make sure they get their Medicaid, and will not be
• 1:46:48
  cutting any legitimate payments whatsoever.
• 1:46:51
  Crystal clear. I'll just add to this.
• 1:46:58
  I, I've been there working there.
• 1:47:00
  I spent about the first 3 or 4 weeks of my time in Woodlands
• 1:47:03
  actually working in social administration. 100% when you're
• 1:47:06
  saying is true, nothing has happened on the ground that
• 1:47:10
  would impact the level of payments going to people that
• 1:47:12
  legitimately are owed those payments, period.
• 1:47:16
  A lot is going to happen to people that are stealing from
• 1:47:18
  the system. Yeah, yeah, they're not getting
• 1:47:21
  the payments. And you know who's screaming?
• 1:47:24
  They are because they're committing fraud and we should
• 1:47:29
  take that away from them because they're stealing from all of us
• 1:47:31
  in this room and our parents and they're going to scream loud and
• 1:47:35
  it's going to get louder. But it would, but thank you,
• 1:47:39
  thank you for asking that question because it it, you
• 1:47:42
  know, it is something that as obvious to this as it sounds,
• 1:47:46
  it's a great question because we just need to be very crisp and
• 1:47:50
  clear. Those will make sure you get
• 1:47:53
  your Social Security. Those will make sure you get
• 1:47:55
  your Medicaid. There will be no cuts to
• 1:47:57
  legitimate payments whatsoever. I'd like to go last, if it's OK
• 1:48:05
  with the other gentlemen. Would you like to go, Sir?
• 1:48:09
  Please go. Thank you.
• 1:48:13
  Mr. Musk, thank you so much for coming to Wisconsin.
• 1:48:16
  I just want to thank you for calling out bad ideas on X.
• 1:48:22
  You do that like every 30 minutes and if I don't see
• 1:48:25
  something, I'm like, wow, so you're on OK.
• 1:48:28
  Yeah. And we all know that ideas of
• 1:48:33
  consequences and bad ideas have victims.
• 1:48:37
  And thank you for speaking up for victims.
• 1:48:40
  And a few nights ago when you spoke with Bret Baier, when
• 1:48:43
  you're being interviewed and he asks you what keeps you up at
• 1:48:47
  night? And like that other question you
• 1:48:50
  answered and you pause and it was depopulation.
• 1:48:55
  And I was waiting for you to say like, oh, the death threats
• 1:48:59
  against my life or the national debt or the depopulation.
• 1:49:05
  Yeah, depopulation is a really big deal.
• 1:49:08
  It's not on people's radar. What is that?
• 1:49:13
  Well, I think, I think we, we haven't yet evolved to deal with
• 1:49:16
  depopulation. You know, it's, it's, I guess
• 1:49:22
  it's something we're better evolved to deal with or we're
• 1:49:26
  going to disappear. And once the depopulation roll
• 1:49:32
  starts rolling, it seems to gather up speed.
• 1:49:35
  I mean, you can look at sort of cases like Korea and Japan,
• 1:49:38
  which are much further ahead or behind depending on how you look
• 1:49:43
  at it, that like the population decline there is much worse.
• 1:49:46
  Japan is an absolute population, population decline.
• 1:49:49
  So they're losing about I think roughly 1,000,000 people a year
• 1:49:53
  of population and that's going to accelerate.
• 1:49:56
  Korea is has only a third replacement rate, which means
• 1:50:01
  that in three generations the country will be 3 or 4% of its
• 1:50:05
  current size. Like basically all that'll be
• 1:50:08
  left is a small portion of the capital city.
• 1:50:12
  So and I keep waiting for the birth rate to turn around, but
• 1:50:15
  it doesn't, it seems like population collapse accelerates
• 1:50:22
  and that's why I think it's a very serious matter.
• 1:50:26
  If you believe in humanity at all, you should care about this
• 1:50:29
  a lot. And then, you know, that's sort
• 1:50:34
  of, but that, you know, that's the sort of long term thing and
• 1:50:36
  the short term thing is remaining is that America needs
• 1:50:40
  to be financially solvent. You know, that's what Dosha is
• 1:50:46
  about, trying to just make sure America is financially solvent.
• 1:50:49
  And then there's also the risks of AI.
• 1:50:53
  So we want to make sure that AI is maximally truth seeking and,
• 1:51:01
  you know, ideally has sort of values that most Americans would
• 1:51:04
  agree with and that it's a pro human AI, that it wants to
• 1:51:10
  foster the future of humanity. Those are the things that I
• 1:51:18
  think about so. Please Elon, my name is Matt
• 1:51:26
  Hoss. Like Bonanza Big Hoss, I own and
• 1:51:30
  operate a small business here in the Fox Valley, and tomorrow I
• 1:51:33
  actually get the honor and the privilege to host Brad Schimmel
• 1:51:36
  at our shop, Spring Getty Landscape, if anyone's in the
• 1:51:38
  Valley. Sounds good.
• 1:51:40
  Come down 4430 tomorrow, we're having a shindig to have Brad
• 1:51:44
  stop by. He's going to come and give a
• 1:51:45
  little speech, get some, some. That's what this was about.
• 1:51:49
  It was Brad's election. And so I just wanted to say, in
• 1:51:52
  your opinion, what is Brad going to do for small business owners
• 1:51:55
  like myself? Well, I think he's going to help
• 1:51:59
  get the government off your back.
• 1:52:01
  So that's a big deal, you know, for for anyone that starts the
• 1:52:06
  business, you know, it's like you used to just be able to open
• 1:52:10
  a store and not get like a zillion permits and licenses and
• 1:52:13
  everything. You know, that's how America,
• 1:52:16
  you wanted to make a product. You just made the product and
• 1:52:19
  you didn't have to satisfy a massive body of regulations and
• 1:52:22
  get a permission from all sorts of agencies.
• 1:52:26
  So hopefully Justice Shimel is, you know, supports that and
• 1:52:31
  helps get the government off your back.
• 1:52:34
  All right, So let me finish by saying obviously, yeah, those
• 1:52:44
  are the states that will be cool.
• 1:52:47
  But just just remember like this, the importance of the
• 1:52:51
  election on Tuesday is gigantic. It could it could decide the the
• 1:52:55
  future of the House of Representatives.
• 1:52:57
  It could decide then the future of America and the future of the
• 1:53:00
  world. So it's absolutely critical that
• 1:53:04
  you really you need to just drag friends and family to vote on
• 1:53:08
  Tuesday for Justice Schimmel and for voter ID.
• 1:53:14
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• 1:53:17
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• 1:53:20
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