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#566 - AJ McQueen - $1,900 Album?! AJ McQueen Gets Real About The Independent Grind, His Purpose & Message to the Youth! · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 2: hear us. Let's get into the interview. Yo, it's the
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  Speaker 2: Boulet cav Show, Buelet Cap Podcast. Man, we got a
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  Speaker 2: special guests in here. Aj McQueen Lord, welcome Man. I
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  Speaker 2: got put up on you man Homely nineteen keys that
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  Speaker 2: sent me a ship to the God nineteen that's my brother, yeah, man,
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  Speaker 2: so lute to him.
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  Speaker 3: How'd y'all link up?
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  Speaker 1: Man? Very organically? I think, you know, we we both
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  Speaker 1: kind of operate in the same spaces, right. So he
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  Speaker 1: was doing he was doing an event, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and then reached out, you know, so I
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  Speaker 1: pulled up and then all bond just built from there. No,
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  Speaker 1: he's solid man, yeah, no, super superman man. You know
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  Speaker 1: he's from Saint Louis, you know what I mean as well,
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  Speaker 1: So you know, just those those origins, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yo, how long like how long has this journey been
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  Speaker 2: for you in terms of just like, like I guess
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  Speaker 2: when you first started rapping, when you started to take
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  Speaker 2: it serious, when you got some money, like when things
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  Speaker 2: were like, oh we could. This is a thing. Now
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  Speaker 2: we can actually pursue this full time. Like I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: a I'm a rephrase. I'm gonna answer I'm an rephrase
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  Speaker 2: the question because I don't I'm not a rapper, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm a writer, you know what I'm saying. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that.
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  Speaker 1: I want to bring that back to the cloth of
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  Speaker 1: like artistry, right, Like I've been writing my whole life,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I've been writing, bro,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a real writer, like you know so, And I
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  Speaker 1: feel like a lot of writers exist, they just don't
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  Speaker 1: know there's no space to really camping in it on
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  Speaker 1: the same level of rap. Right, So we're writing. I'm
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  Speaker 1: writing my whole life, bro. Writing has always been a
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  Speaker 1: therapy for me. You know what I'm saying, Like growing
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  Speaker 1: up in the streets, Uh, you know I I grew
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  Speaker 1: up in an abusive household. You hear me, So the
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  Speaker 1: only way I could express myself. You know what's writing?
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  Speaker 1: I grab a peanut, wrote on anything. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So fast forward to force rapping around the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: I was a battle rapper first. So if people hear
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  Speaker 1: my music and hear like the way I punched. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like it's you know, I used
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  Speaker 1: to battle rap, so uh just wrapped around the neighborhood. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then you know, fast forward to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Uh I had I had some I had some low
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  Speaker 1: low moments in my life, So it wasn't I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: think about rapping right and there like that. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: until in high school. I used to Uh, I'm gonna say,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you I'm a I'm finished, show how
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  Speaker 1: old I am? Uh memor Ck CD. He's a print
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  Speaker 1: print joints of course, you know what I'm saying. Go around.
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  Speaker 1: I used to just pass them out, bro, I wrote
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  Speaker 1: on the on the top of the CD. You heard
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  Speaker 1: me with a marker. You know. I used to pass
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  Speaker 1: them out. And in my mind at that time, I
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  Speaker 1: was the best rapper alive. So uh but to the
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  Speaker 1: National Spotlight. I got invite to be on BT when
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  Speaker 1: I was sixty park when I was nineteen, You know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: So was it a freestyle Friday or bro so.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: BT did a team violin special. I was a part
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  Speaker 1: of a group at the time. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And they single to be out of out of the
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  Speaker 1: group because they heard my story. You know, from growing
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  Speaker 1: up in Saint Louis, I started gang banking young, bro,
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  Speaker 1: like super young. I got shot up when I was fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: so shot twice. Yeah, I was a baby, bro. I
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  Speaker 1: had just turned fifteen, you know what I mean, like
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  Speaker 1: that month and I got shot and you know, I
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  Speaker 1: got sent away. So it was it's a real, like
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  Speaker 1: real deep story. But my life turned into something beautiful, bro,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just a story of triumph
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  Speaker 1: and perseverance. And so BT heard that and they invited
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  Speaker 1: me to come to a teen violence special, you hear me.
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  Speaker 1: So they made a team. They've never done a teen
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  Speaker 1: violence special ever. And this is around the same time
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  Speaker 1: of police brutality was high, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of like you know, injustice, social social uproar.
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  Speaker 1: So they brought me there to the teen violence special
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  Speaker 1: on me, uh and that's what put me in national spotlight.
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  Speaker 1: But they put on the TV youth activists. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even know what the activist was, right, So, but it's
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  Speaker 1: amazing how that kind of like foresaw and propheside to
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  Speaker 1: what my life would end up looking like yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but you can't really find the episode online or where
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  Speaker 1: they sponged it, you know what I'm saying, because it
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  Speaker 1: was live.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's like almost damn. You're gotta like hit
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  Speaker 2: them like he send me to take Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they sponged it and I and I was
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  Speaker 1: talking about God a lot. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: because you know my faith fact, the faith factor hit me,
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  Speaker 1: bro because.
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  Speaker 2: The way they shot up the street. K I ain't
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be here, Bro, were they looking? Were they
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  Speaker 2: trying to shoot you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Out of seven people on the person that got
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  Speaker 1: shot and bullets, I mean you know how bullet holes
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  Speaker 1: went through my my cousin's shirt or like it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was that type of energy. I'm the only person
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  Speaker 1: that got shot. And I met God on my back
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  Speaker 1: like I was laying there and you know how they
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  Speaker 1: say your life last for y'all. Yeah, like I used
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  Speaker 1: to hear through movies until it happened. I'm looking up
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  Speaker 1: at the sky, bro, and I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, do you feel like you like I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how serious, like you're like like your wounds were, but
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  Speaker 2: do you like were you like slipping in and out
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  Speaker 2: of like whatever they call that like space between like yeah,
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  Speaker 2: passing away and being here.
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  Speaker 1: Like no, I mean, because adrenaline is so high. I
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  Speaker 1: even know I was shot until somebody like told me
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  Speaker 1: I was shot.
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  Speaker 3: But you you you once you're.
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  Speaker 1: I was cognizant and I saw the wounds.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh and then your brain like there's something
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  Speaker 2: that turns on.
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  Speaker 1: It turns on, bro. So that happened, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. And it took like that. It took the
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  Speaker 1: ambulance like forty five minutes to get there. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm in. I'm in. I'm on the
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  Speaker 1: north side of Slain Lewis. You heard me? So ain't
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  Speaker 1: nobody coming over there? Bro? And what BT heard my story?
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  Speaker 1: They did a special on it, and like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sad about got a lot, you know, just my
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  Speaker 1: faith and they sponged it. But I ended up helping
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people. And it's before Instagram's popping, right,
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  Speaker 1: so I start getting booked all across the country. Well
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  Speaker 1: all this is as a speaker. Nobody's you know, you
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  Speaker 1: do music.
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  Speaker 3: Not even on a music shit, just just to hear
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  Speaker 3: your story.
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  Speaker 1: But what I would do throughout the bookings and you
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  Speaker 1: know the speaking is I would uh, I would do acapellas.
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  Speaker 1: You heard me, And I'm young man, so I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: my stuff off, you know what I mean. So I
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  Speaker 1: would do appellas and so that people start calling me
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  Speaker 1: a poet at the time, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: But I really was just saying my verses slowly, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And people start hearing me as
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  Speaker 1: a poet, as a lyricist at that time, and it
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  Speaker 1: really just trotted to the rest of my journey.
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  Speaker 3: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: I got awarded the White House Service Achievement Award when
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  Speaker 1: I was twenty three, Yeah, from Barack Obama. So yeah, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: I wrote.
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  Speaker 3: A book to the White House.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a White House. I went the Capitol Hill.
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  Speaker 3: Uh. You know it was did you meet Barry?
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  Speaker 1: I did? I Actually I didn't meet him, but I
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  Speaker 1: was in an oyster club, Bro, and all of them
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  Speaker 1: was in the oyster club. I was just on the wall.
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  Speaker 1: I was twenty three years old.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, that's crazy, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. Like my journey, this is like
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  Speaker 1: the two hundred version of me as we're talking, this
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  Speaker 1: is a whole different version of me.
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  Speaker 3: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a journey of growth and all of it's
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  Speaker 1: being dependent, you know what I'm saying. So everything that
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  Speaker 1: people see from my career, I wrote a book. When
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  Speaker 1: I was twenty three, I got award the White House
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  Speaker 1: Service achieved in the award, I got my own day
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  Speaker 1: in the cit of Houston from the mayor said, it's
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  Speaker 1: the piece of Mayor sevest attornery. But I got my
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  Speaker 1: own day. And with all of that, I started a
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  Speaker 1: nonprofit organization first, and it was a writing and performing
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  Speaker 1: arts organization, so it wasn't into all of this happened.
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  Speaker 1: Then I started taking music. I stopped like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: get it now, you know what I'm saying, Like like
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  Speaker 1: and I and I And I'm grateful for that for
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  Speaker 1: that journey, bro, because my music is real and the
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  Speaker 1: raw because I've lived, you know what I'm saying. I live,
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  Speaker 1: I live, Bro, Like everything I talk about is rich,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It ain't just like so
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  Speaker 1: it ain't like you know, I'm just I found some
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  Speaker 1: newfound talent though this is this has been refined, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting too because do you feel like had you
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  Speaker 2: not been shot, that your journey would have been different the.
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  Speaker 1: Way it would definitely be different. I'll probably be there
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  Speaker 1: on jail either way. You know what I'm saying. You know,
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  Speaker 1: with Saint Louis being what it is, right, But if
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  Speaker 1: I if that didn't happen, because my mom sent me
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  Speaker 1: away after that and I stayed with I was homeless
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  Speaker 1: through our hospital. I stayed with six different families.
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  Speaker 3: What'd you get sent away to? Okay? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: From there it was like h town.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you know, so used to save my life, bro,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And really the people. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I have so much admiration for community humanity because
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  Speaker 1: I've seen beauty in it too. I stay with old
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  Speaker 1: white couple. I stayed with. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I used some Hispanics Asi. So my view just on
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  Speaker 1: life is different, and like I say, it's been refined.
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  Speaker 1: So I started doing music, taking the music seriously three
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  Speaker 1: years ago. Bro. So everything that people see three years old,
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  Speaker 1: it's only three years old. But it's rich though.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because when something like that happens,
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  Speaker 2: it's almost like it's either just another day or it's
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  Speaker 2: going to change your life.
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  Speaker 3: It's like one of the two.
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  Speaker 2: Because you know, there's people who get shot and nothing
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  Speaker 2: changes nothing. But I feel like when something like that happens,
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  Speaker 2: it's like a real fork in the road moment.
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  Speaker 1: It's about how you respond, I think, I think, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's we all have different moments, So it don't have
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  Speaker 1: to be something of the Jurassic as getting shot, right,
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  Speaker 1: But it could be how you respond to anger, how
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  Speaker 1: you respond to disappointment, how you responded to a breakup
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  Speaker 1: for sure, and respond to you know, being broke. Like's
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  Speaker 1: that's who you are in real life? You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? You are whoever you are when you are alone,
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  Speaker 1: So whoever you are when you're around people and all
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  Speaker 1: that ain't really you, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say too.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the craziest sh it is how everybody is
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  Speaker 2: just like an emotional mistake away from like changing the
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  Speaker 2: trajectory of their life at all times.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I said. And you know in my music
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  Speaker 1: I talk a lot about like we talk, we talk,
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  Speaker 1: we talk about the crash outs, but we don't talk
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  Speaker 1: about the people who almost crashed out. The almost crash
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  Speaker 1: outs is crazy because you learned that the lessons are
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  Speaker 1: in the almost crashouts. Me, it's it's it's it's a
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  Speaker 1: woman in the almost, but people don't want talk about
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  Speaker 1: they almost because it'svul' vulnerable, right, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: You got to be vulnerable to say, yeah, man, I
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  Speaker 1: almost lost my mom or I almost crashed out on
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  Speaker 1: all y'all. You know what I mean, Like, because you
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  Speaker 1: don't praise almost you almost the street nigga, you almost
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  Speaker 1: shot somebody? You almost.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like thank god, man, because I had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of crash out moments when I was younger, but
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  Speaker 2: the wasn't as prevalent as it is. So but it's
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  Speaker 2: like you like you got to learn and like certain
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  Speaker 2: shit is just not worth it.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like I really feel like life is just
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  Speaker 2: it really boils down to how you react to adversity
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  Speaker 2: or how you react when you're really when you're mad,
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  Speaker 2: when you're sad, when you're disappointed, because it's it's in
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  Speaker 2: those moments that you have to be composed, You have
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: to step back, let the dust settle, and just yeah,
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: because in those same moments, it's like if you're if it,
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: like I said, you could apply that to financial advice.
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  Speaker 2: You could apply that like when people get freaked out
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  Speaker 2: because you know, some crazy shit's happening, you don't look
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  Speaker 2: at it.
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  Speaker 3: Through the emotional lens. There's there's always opportunity to take
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  Speaker 3: advantage of any situation.
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  Speaker 1: You know. It's like it's all about your spine. And
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  Speaker 1: I believe that that's why my journey has been unique,
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  Speaker 1: because I am the symbol of the almost. I'm the
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  Speaker 1: symbol of evolution, right like we again, we got Street,
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  Speaker 1: we got Street Niggas, we got we got all that.
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  Speaker 1: But have you ever seen it evolved when before? Have
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  Speaker 1: you ever seen somebody like go beyond it? You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying and looking and be able to talk
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  Speaker 1: about it holistically. I don't know. I don't know. Poked
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  Speaker 1: out of twenty five. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: It is wild.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy. Every time I hear that out loud, it's like, damn,
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: he really did diet twenty five five.
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  Speaker 1: Nip was the closest to me, and I'm a big
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  Speaker 1: like you know child, and Nip we on West Coast
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  Speaker 1: for show. Nip was definitely a kindred spirit of mine
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  Speaker 1: and I never met him, right, but it's amazing how
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people have, Like, man, you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you remind me of somebody. But I believe it's just
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  Speaker 1: because of the evolution of it, Like you know, Nip
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  Speaker 1: being you know what I'm saying, from the streets whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and you saw him evolving in different spaces, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I think that, And it's unfortunately he was taking you know,
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  Speaker 1: they had thirty three, but we don't see the people
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  Speaker 1: live to be able to go beyond it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's it's it's like the thing about Nip's passing,
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  Speaker 2: as sad and tragic as it was, is like it
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  Speaker 2: and into like a lot of people being inspired and
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: going back and digging in his interviews.
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  Speaker 3: And like like he like changed the world like after
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  Speaker 3: his death for real.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like like there's people who like like look at
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  Speaker 2: shit way differently because of it, because they found out
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  Speaker 2: about him after he passed.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think that's I think there's beauty in that,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it's still tragic, right,
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  Speaker 1: It's it's Inadverden, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But it's still like it's like, man, it's almost like
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  Speaker 2: you know when when you go through because I was
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  Speaker 2: I was personal friends with Nip. That was the homie
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  Speaker 2: man like I've been knowing nip since two thousand and nine, bro,
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  Speaker 2: that was when he was first on my show. But
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  Speaker 2: I know, like him passing, it was a tragedy. I mean, dude,
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: when he died, LA stopped in a way that was
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  Speaker 2: Kobe passed away not far after, and it wasn't the same.
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  Speaker 2: And I said that to say, like Nipsey, like do
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  Speaker 2: they like that?
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  Speaker 3: It was?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I say. It's the inadvertent part of it all.
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• 14:48
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back to the interview. There is a certain
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  Speaker 2: part of like people saying that there's not a lot
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: of music for or artists for the kids to kind
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  Speaker 2: of like look up to, because if if the algorithm
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: is just feeding them all this crash out shit, all
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: this you know, you know whatever you want to call it, right,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: But there is there's guys like you, there's got you know,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: there's there's amazing artists out there who are doing amazing shit.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: The problem is is, like I think just the artist
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: discovery methods that are like the kids are using it,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: it's really like they're not like seeking out new music
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: as much as it's just kind of like they got
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: to swipe and it's got to hit their algorithm.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's it's systematic, bro for sure, like
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: it feels that way. It's definitely just about it. But
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I think that, you know, even going back to Nip
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Nip said, he said, and I apologize, I get it wrong,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: but he said, ur generation gonna become you know, there
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: comes one who decldes the matrix, you know what I'm saying.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: And that's when I'm that He was that there's there's
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: people who will show a path, who will light a
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: path in a different way, like my My brand is
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: on the same level like my my notoriety, whether people
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: know it or not. But if you go to my
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: page and go to my streams or come to my tour,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: you will see a line around the block and be like,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: what the hell going on her? You know what I'm saying, Like, No,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you go see the five hundred and thirty thousand followers
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and you will see it. So it's happened. It's a
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: movement happening. But the path's not lit you hear me.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: So I'm like in the past and it's not celebrated,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: right right, But there's people like yourself who are in
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the industry who hold spaces for you know what I'm saying,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: like raw souls and real people, and I think that
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: there's beauty in that and also stuff he repeats itself,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: bro like history piece itself. Music would be yourself, nas
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: pop Common, you know, Badu, the Soul Crarions and just
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: people who spoke to a deeper spoke a deeper message.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: It's all coming back around.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: But it's interesting because there's pages that would never post
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: your freestyles, your music, but if you got shot tomorrow
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: in Houston and passed away, Lord forbid, you would be posted.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's fucking crazy. It's systematic. I think J Cole
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: said that right, Yeah, yeah.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: It's systematic. But like I said, we were in such
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a d I wild world, now you know what I
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: mean the last couple of years.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, shots of guys like yourself.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: La Russell's done a really good job of showing people like, hey,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: you don't have to follow the blueprints.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, like we were able to build
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: our own system. So and now don't get me wrong,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: It still goes in front of people to choose right now,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You can't you know that's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: free will. God will even take that from you. So
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: people got to choose what they want to take part in.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, there's some dual there there, bro,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Like you're hearing me, there's artists that I love, may
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: not you know, speak the same right, right or whatever? Yeah, yeah,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But but also I can
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: see the I can see it. I can see the
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: beauty in it. I mean, Pak was a conflicted soul,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you know what I.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Mean, Like all the greats are low key, very conflicted,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: very like if you heard like Navs say some ship
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: like like this, like I mean, jay Z is it
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: black Girl Losses the short you've had right?
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: He said that. It was like it's it's like this
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: is this is humans.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Right, And I think that that's why they're like, it's
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: just a movement now that's happening to where the raw souls,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: raw music is found in this place. No, bro, it
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: ain't gospel, like, it ain't Christian music. You're gonna hear
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: me talk about God. You're gonna hear me talk about
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: life and health and eating healthy. And you know what
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't kill nobody on music. I don't
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: beat no women, bro on the grade. But the same
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: energy I just did you know while rapping or the
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: music you're gonna heard the same energy that your favorite
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: rapper god while he's spinning and talk about shooting right.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: So it's the confidence like people want to steal. I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: don't care what you talk about in your music, Bro,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: it can't be like yeah, and that's my thing, Like
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it ain't. People don't want to. It ain't about your
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: content more so than it's about the energy you put
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: behind it. Do you believe it? You gotta be convinced
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: in order to be convincing, like, yeah, no, I don't
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: believe you when you when you're saying it yourself. You
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So why would you go go
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: out there and then you want to blame that on
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the industry. No, Bro, you still need to find your
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: your you know, your path and your honesty and your transparency.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I found mine and I'm lighting a path to help
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: other people show.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because like you said, it's like you
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: can enjoy it like I I mean the I remember
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I used to be a hip hop snob when I
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: was a kid, and and then I.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Was like why I used to be like a backpack
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: like rap real, it's not real rap. You know, it's
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: not real hip hop. But it's like bro, Like if
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: you can't enjoy fucking sexy. I love sexy Red. I
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: love sexy Red, and I love you know I don't
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: you name it cord.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Or rhapsody rap cool, I'll just give you those are
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the two. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love shouts of wrap.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: She's one of the great I would love to.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Do a song rap I think. I think it will
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: change the world.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: She's amazing.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love, I love, I love rap.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: She's one of the greatest mcs, like on the planet.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Like I hate, I hate when they put her in
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: like the best female rapper. No, she rap out bar
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: like she's insane. But you you can enjoy both, Like
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I love sex.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: She got bangers.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I said, it's a duality, and I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: think we find that place and all this division. I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: don't even think God's pleased with the level of division
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: that we have. Don't get your own life should be
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: about principles, right, and moral you know, moral values and
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, righteousness, I believe in that.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: But the way the human nature is set up, you
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like the grace and the and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the and the the understanding that we should have. I
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: feel like we've lost that as people and we've weaponized knowledge,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: weaponized money, and weaponized wealth. But on humanity level, once
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: we get back to seeing everybody as humans, you know
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, First, you're not a body with a soul.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Your soul with a body, bro and that ain't got
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: no social class, no race, no no, no nothing. When we
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: able to get to that, then I think we can
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: we can operate it off food.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the whole world needs to give people
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: more grace, whether it's in political politics, whether it's in music.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I hate when I see people like.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Coming across like they're talking down on something or they
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: know better where it's like, hey, like your truth isn't
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: that person's truth isn't You know what I'm saying. So
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I think I think, like you said,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: you got to give people more grace, and you also
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: got to understand like not everyone's path the same not
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: everyone's life the same, Not everybody's motivations are the same, and.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: It ain't it ain't gonna ever be the same. But
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you can control what you can control. I told somebody
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: this the other day and they stopped in their tracks.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: God ain't American facts, even though.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: They want you to think that God ain't American. Like,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: God's not an American, God's not from Israel. God's fucking
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: let me.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Let me go deeper. God ain't American. God ain't black
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: or white. God ain't male or female. God is none
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: of it. Don't get me wrong. There's there's there's polarity,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: and you know, a masculine front or this what what
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: have you been? On a deeper level, God ain't American.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: So while you thinking in your box and your and
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: your your big house down the street or your whatever,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that God sitting there. The way you see the world
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: is law. The way you see people is law, and
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be it. You're gonna be mistaken, you know
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. God ain't American.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Like, there's a there's a hut. There's a tribe in
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Africa somewhere on the other side of the world that
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: probably you know will spur you in your head. You
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You come over there being disrespectful
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: that that that believe in God too, And so who
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: am I to go? And you know what I mean,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: weaponize what I believe, what I think I.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Know, and judge.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: And that's why I operate the way I do. Don't
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: get me wrong. My story, my testimony, my principles, my
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: truth is something I'm gonna live and die on. But
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and I'm not a threat to you as long as
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: you're not threat to my pressholes, our value, my truth. Brother.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna go attack the world for it.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna like the path and show the way.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I love that. That's crazy. It's interesting because
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: we I feel like the world, I mean.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Most most huge wars are religion based, right Yeah, not
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: to mention like so many of the world's conflicts right now,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: people like it's like the whole idea of like religion
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: and God is like forgiveness.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: You can't put a nationality on it. You can't put
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: a region of the world on it. It's like, yeah,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: that's what I say.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I believe, you know the most when it's all said, whenever, whenever,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be disappointed, man, you know what I'm saying.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: But again, because we've able to create these systems in
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: this division and most people. But one thing I love
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: about music is like music is of the arts, liberal arts.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: It's not called conservative arts, brother, right, liberal arts, man,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: So be free express yourself. And that's where I again,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: it took me yours to get to a place where
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, and I literally stopped everything. Everything I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: told you I was doing, I stopped. I don't do
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: none of it no more. All I do it's right here.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: And I get two tours last year selling our shows
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: all indie. You know what I'm saying, No label, all independent.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: You're hearing me. Maybe I've had conversation with labels, but
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: you know we you know, we're doing it ourself.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Her.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think at the end of the day,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: like a major label situation, it just has to be
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: like you have to just get everything you.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Asked for, give me me and let me alone. I'll
• 27:45
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• 27:47
  Speaker 3: That's what I mean.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: That's literally, yeah, Like it's like at a certain point
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: in time, it's like yo, cause I see you're you're
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: doing the thing on even that a lot of artists
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: are being able to do, which is essentially like go
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: straight to consumers and monetize because the streaming rate is
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: fucking insane, right that sold you?
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: You sold an album for two grand?
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ninety hundred.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: So it's like just to give people like an idea
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: of like what that breaks down to, Like the streaming
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: rate on Spotify, depending on what time of the year
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: it is, nineteen hundred dollars is on the high end,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: that's a happen million straight. Yeah, So it's like fuck that.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: It's beauty. There's so much beauty and independence right now,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you know. And independence doesn't mean a loan, right Like
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: independence means independent. It means you know, you you trying
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: your own path, you making your own decisions, and you're
• 28:35
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• 28:37
  Speaker 1: even United Masters, you know what I mean, just making
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: strategic partnerships and get bringing power back to the artists,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm able to go
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: straight to the to my fans and also collect the data.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you're gonna buy this project, but I'm also
• 28:52
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• 28:54
  Speaker 1: because I got the data, I can extract it through
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: a CSV file, you hear me. And it's just it
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: makes you your own ball, your own label. And I
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: think that everybody should embrace the independent on.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, there's like artists where you're like, if
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: you do like pop music, you do like a certain
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: genre of music, You're like, you know, I mean, maybe
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: this this needs to be in a machine for it
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: to really go to the next level.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: But I do feel like when it comes to.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Hip hop, it's like you got to build a flock man,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: and there's so much, there's so much it's coming now.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: This is cheat cood, drop of cheat code. It's marketing,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: it's marketing. You know, you got a bag, you got
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: money right now, you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna courage you to put it in marketing. You
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Make sure marketing exposure, make sure
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: you the world season. You can do that so easily.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Now when you say marketing, what would you say would
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: be Because I feel like a lot of artists they
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: don't like, let's say someone's got ten grands shaved up right,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: they don't know.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: What to do with it.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, these a lot of these pages are not label bought.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They work with the label too,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you know what i mean. So you know you're on
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the radars, your Wrap Marathon, all these different platforms. They
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: not bought by labels. You know what I'm saying. These
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: are real people that if you hit them up. You
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you say, hey, you know what
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I mean. I got X y Z. You know what
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you know, Shade Room ain't brought by nobody.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, but they'll they'll and if they if
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: it is a sponsored post or an ad post, it'll
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: say that, it'll say that, right, so so, but there
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: are a lot of pages that aren't saying yeah.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Like, I think there's more of
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: people that if they see of course, you willn't invest
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: in yourself. You got you know, you've got a ten
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: grand There's pagers out there that you could throw five
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: hundred at. You know what I'm saying to say, pop Now,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, what a label, what marketing won't
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: do is make the good content. You have to have
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the right song, like you got you you gotta it
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna Yeah, you'll spend your money, and after it
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: spends a cycle, it's goned fizzle out, you know.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I always say, like I tell this to people
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: all the time because I have people playing music. Hey,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking about working with the Start.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I say, look, at the end of the day, my
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: opinion is just my opinion on if your music's good
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: or not. It doesn't mean that it's It's all subjective, right,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: it's art. So it's like, but at the same time,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: it's like, what is a fact is it doesn't matter
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: how much money you spend. If the music does not resonate,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: it don't matter.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: None of it matters. There's no cheat code to making
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: music that connects with people. There's like that does not exist.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: It don't exist at all. So you can spend the money,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: it's gonna fizzle out and you ain't gonna see.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: It again, and you will never be able to tour
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: because to me, I always look at the hard ticket sales.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, if you you're oh, you sold out
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: five hundreds. Even someone sells out too in a person show,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I respect the fuck out of it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: It's still sold out.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Because I'm like, oh shit, you were able to move
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: two hundred tickets in the city you're not from.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Wow, I sold out Atlanta on a Monday night, four
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: hundred tickets. That's big night, you know what I'm saying. Monday.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I was touring throughout the week and weekends, you know,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: because when you work independence, you're gonna take your slots
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: as you get them, you know what I mean.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I mean in these days more than ever, it's like
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: if you are resonating enough with somebody for them to
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: get a babysitter, spend money that they don't have extra
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: money right now just to go see you do what
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: you do.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: That means what your whatever you're doing on whatever levels working.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got people flying from all over the country
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: to come to shows. I wasn't getting booked for festivals
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: at first, so I started my own festivals called God
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: by the Weekend. So I do it in Houston early years.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I'm out through the fourth annual, and so there's thousands
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: of people that come from all over just to be
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: in the city for like four days. And yeah, bro,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: it's been beautiful. Kids came last year. I've been talking
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: to a whole bunch of people who I resonate with
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: inviting them to come through, and it's just a space
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: for you know, celebrating like the positivity, you know, like
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: healthy stuff. You know what I'm saying. Because again there's
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: duality there, right. I think that the more instead of
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: drawing a line in the saying like, hey, you either
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: come on the side, going on inside, create spaces where
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: we all could operate and live in. I may not
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: see the world the way you see the world, but
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I do. I do need to eat healthy too, or
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I pray tool or I want a healthy relationship too,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And everything don't have to
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: be so black and white. So I encourage her all
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the independent autists, not even just independent arts people to
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: find themselves, like find that thing within you. You know
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that it's you, it makes you unique,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: and then you market that.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy. It's like I'm pushing like good relationships.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Tive is amazing.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: It's almost the vision I heard. I hate. I hate
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: seeing some of the stuff. Oh that's going on. I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: hate it.
• 33:29
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• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I like the last.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie ever really ever since, like I'll
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: be twenty sixteen. It's got to where a lot of
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: the craziest political shit started.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: But I might gonna lie. Like once Biden got in
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: the way that the whole Biden shit went, I just
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: I was, I got broken, dog, I was like, I am,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I gotta step away from all this shit, Like you
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I can't be like politically engaged on a daily basis
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: without wanting to fucking like stab my eyes out.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: And then to today it's just crazy.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: It's like today it's like a Netflix show, like playing
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: out in real life like this Elon Trump, shit is.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Y'all saw that?
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: It's wild?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: He say, Epstein, this, that's.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: It's Kendrick and Drake. If it was Drake versus dre
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: it's two Drakes in the battle.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Drakes. Yeah, man, two Drakes in the Battle's crazy, you know.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: And like I said, it's a lot of that going on.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: But I also think that there is a lot of
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: beauty still in the world, you know what I'm saying,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: As crazy as it is, and I think that beauty
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: is created through moments like this, through moments of people
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: just being the raw self. Like you know, whoever you are,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: when you're by yourself, that's who you are investing to
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: that person, you know what I'm saying. Like like I don't.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I've been taking solo trips lately, you know what I mean.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: So at the top of the year, I went to
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the d Off seven days, bro by yourself, by myself. Bro.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I'm out of her Bro. I just came back from
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Jamaica like two weeks ago, where I went everywhere Bay Grill. No,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't go to the grill. I went to a
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Tigo Bay Flanker. But I'm I'll do no touristy stuff.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I'm with the local. I'm a Rosters. Yeah you know
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: what I mean. So I go to locals at and
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: just take a break from everything. That's healthy. Attachment is healthy.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Yo, that's crazy. I feel like more people should this.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: So it's almost like we're shamed. If you go to
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the movies by yourself, people look at you like you
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: went to the movies that.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I've been going. I've been single for three years, but
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I've been going a lot, a lot of solo trip
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: because you know, just not repeating cycles. Man, especially where
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I'm at now. I could do some I could do
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: some wild ship.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah oh you yeah, bro, I can.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: But just because you can do anything doesn't mean you should.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: And I think there's beauty and restraint. There's beauty and retention.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: There's beauty and resetting, and there's beauty and and and
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: and Nip said something, he say, uh, we gotta we
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: gotta change how we respond to disrespect. You know what
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it resonated with me a while ago, right,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: And that's I showed the same sentiments. We have to
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: change how we respond to loneliness. Bro. Like loneliness, there's
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: a difference between being lonely and being in solitude, bro, Like,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: loneliness is the response, it's the sorrow of like, man,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: they left me solitude, you chose that.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Loneliness is like like you said, it's like a chosen
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: state of mind. If if you you know, like if
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: you want to dwell in your if.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: You want to ruminate, you know what I'm saying. And
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: then yeah, like, but in solitude is I chose? I
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: chose this, bro, So I've been doing I've been choosing it.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I told you about my
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: life that was forced on me. Loneliness was forced on me.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I got sent away from my mother, my sisters, my uncle,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and my dad for yours. Bro. My mama said I
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: could not come back because they're trying to theyre trying
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to kill me, and you know, family get caught up
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: in across for so I'm living out of a trash
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: bag for yours, you know what I mean. So I
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: was lonely. So now as a as a man, I can.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I can need to choose to fill my space up
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: with vanity and the whole once ship. I can? I can?
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: I can.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: My house could be jumping every night every single night.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: And I ain't saying I don't want to get up
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and present ultimate poise like I just be in.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: The mug, but like you could definitely be.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: But no, I'm trure. My brethren will tell you, like
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: we we we cut from a different cloth. We you know,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: we want to be noblemen. You know what I'm saying.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Like I'm a I'm I'm a gangster and a gardener. Bro.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Like I've shown people the duality of it, and that's
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: why I believe that it's my time, because the world
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: needs to see something different that you know, the men
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: want to be. They want to still hold onto their stuff,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: but they don't know how to take the gangst off
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: and hang it in the closet and take it out
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: when you need it. You know what I'm saying. They
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: don't know how to how to Yeah, I want to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: go out and drink, smoking whatever, whatever. Yeah, don't get
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: me wrong, but bro, you need some You need a
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: smoothie or something, my nigga, Like you need a juice,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: you know, you need you need to see somebody. Yeah, cook,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: you're every like, But but who's showing it in a
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: way that's not Dare I say demasculating you or me
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: or corny or corny or religious or you know what
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, who's showing in a way like damn? Like,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: so I can be myself. I can love my woman.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I cannot fight somebody, but fight if I have to.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I can not crash out almost crash out. I can apologize.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I could be a man of my word, you know
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I can reserve, I can control
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: my dick. Like who's showing it and in a way
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: that's that's up. I'm gonna say mainstream, but who's showing
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: it towards like damn, that's that's what we need to
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: inspire to be, you know what I'm saying.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that we've unfortunately, like man like the
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: we grew up in an era that like our parents
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: have to grow up and and that is the era
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: of like everything is accessible at any time. Yeah, and
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: that means the Internet's got the craziest shit. You become
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: to sensitize a certain shit, and the only fans culture
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: is fucking insane.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: To get off Facebook, bro, Like when did Facebook get pulln?
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Bro?
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting there trying to trying to respond to my auntie,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and then she over there putting, uh,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: what age do what age do parents? Parents get to
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: when they start using gifts on early times.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this, bro, my dad and my
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: mom and my dad says me ten tiktoks today.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what's going on with dad. My
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: chill out on the gifts.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Man. It's like my dad just smokes weed in his
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: office and just swipes and it's like, so, and check
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: out this French bulldog.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: You can say skateboard, you can say thank you, can
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: stay type thank you. You don't have to send me
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: with like a smiling like I don't need that.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: So like happy Birthday with like like their own their
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: own avatar holding balloons.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna block you.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: But you know, like what like there's knowledge is disparity, bro,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Like the more you know, the more you held accountable,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So while we celebrating, while
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: people love the fact that we can in five seconds
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: know what's happening all over the world, it's really disparity
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: because you know what's happening on the world back then, bro,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: before even the mirror was creating, you know, like the
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: mirror is a man made thing. Bro, they ain't had
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: no mirror, so how were they able to see themselves?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: It was all internal, bro, all through the hospital. You
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: ain't know what you look like, so you.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Were so it didn't even I don't even think it mattered.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: It didn't matter. So while they're while we celebrating advancement
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: in society, I think that we should also take heed
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: to the disparity and the lack of internal reflection. We
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: have our own reticular activating system. We got our own
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: internal clock and we but now we I need my
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: clock to tell me, I need my schedule to tell me.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: How did they know where to be?
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Right back then?
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: But they was always where they need to be.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: I just think back to like how how in the
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: world could you get around?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Like I remember my parents we went on a road
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: trip and my dad bought an atlas book from the
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: gas station, and so he had to go through and
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: find the route and then like you you miss.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: A turn, Oh you oh, you're fucked. Yeah.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: But it's like even like even back back before, like
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: everyone had GPS and it was you had to print
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: the map, quest direction Hey, Bro, I was I was.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Definitely doing that, you know what I'm saying, and holding
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the pave a wild driving. Yeah, but I think, you know,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I think that's why detachment is so important. I think
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: that's why meditation, prayer is still important as this world
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: becomes more advanced. Bro, It's something that will never change.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: It's the fact that you can steal while you driving
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: a Tesla super call or or a flow on in whatever,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: or on your phone. You can cut all that off, Bro.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: You can go to the park and you can sit
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: in a damn grass, bro and feel the most since
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: the beginning the time that was there at least thought.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: You know. I think then while we can, we should
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: hold on.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: It's hard to disconnect from the matrix for even for
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: an hour.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you should, I mean, but that's what I'm saying.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: It's a practice. I think that we should practice it.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: You may not be no guru. And what I hate, KEM,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: is the fact that conversations stuff that I'm saying gets
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: put into a conscious box of spirituality box, religion box.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Oh Bro, this is humanity.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I'm just talking about you a human You're a human being,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: not a human doing but you always doing shit, So
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you to be I'm just saying, chill
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: your phone. That stuff gonna beat her. When you stuff,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: it's gonna beat her.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Like we're addicted, man. I mean it's funny because everyone's
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: talking about like when are we going to integrate with
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: technology officially? Obviously Elon is doing the neurolink and all
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: that we already are. This thing is an extension of
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: every human being. If you lose this, if you don't
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: have it, you feel broken, you panic, you feel naked.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: So it's like we already are that.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: And I saw this movie called Upgrade. You ever heard
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: the Upgrade?
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fucking crazy movie. By the way, that shit was sick.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: That movie crazy, super crazy. I think I was highest
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: ship when I watched it too.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Watched it three times, bro, just to make sure that
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I caught everything that I saw, and it was. It
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: was crazy. But you know it's a message in it,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, And that's why I say I think
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: that as this world continues to get advanced, holding onto
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: simple truths. Man, you know, you got yourself, you know
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And they're gonna add to you, but
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: you got yourself and the spirit and your soul and
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the stillness, the stillness of the voice in it, so
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: pushing back from everything, solo tripping, Cold plunging, Bro, I.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Love cold plunge and I love cold three or four times.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: I try to how cold you go forty.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I think forty between thirty five to forty degrees.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: That's fucking yeah. Try to. I try to do like
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: thirty nine, forty, forty one, forty two.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I'm in there, bro, and I'll be I could get
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I could get to.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Depending on how cold it is. I get to about
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: three minutes. But if it's like forty one forty two,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: if I got a hommy like I could and we're
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: talking and me talking, or I can. When I do
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: the cold Plunch, I like to throw my headphones in
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: and call somebody. Yeah.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Like it just keeps your mind off of the fact
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: that your fucking die.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I did something. I did something stupid one day. Bro.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, Bro, cause I gotta tell you
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: somebody that I would say confessial false to one another. Listen, Bro,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I did the Cold Plunch twenty minutes, Bro, twenty almost die.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: It was pink almost died, Bro, And I even realized
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I mean I would have been pink.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I was going through the shit today, you know what
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know, like I just went inside
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: my It was like Goku and the hyperbolic CHAINB. But
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: like I was in there and I felt my brain
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: was and did you not realize you were in there
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: for that long? Realize it?
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Bro?
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: And so by the time I realized it, I got
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: up and I went straight to the high you know
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, Bro, My I felt my uh
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: my level and my spleen whatever this area right here
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: it was frozen, bro. My feet were frozen. I was.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I felt myself like fade, not fading, but like I
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't you know what I mean, Like it didn't
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: feel right, and I was like I don't need to
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: go to the mercy wrong, bro, Like like this is crazy. Bro,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I ain't tell. I ain't even tell my people because
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: they were laughing.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Did you hit the hot tub just bro?
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: And but I did it immediately. So while I'm sitting
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: in there, I still feel my whole body froze minutes.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I will never ever in my life. I don't care whatever.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I ain't got none to prove, bro. But I was
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I blacked out in there like I was. Really that's
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: the cold plunge. My, it's my safe place, bro. I
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: love it. I cold plunged like three four times a week.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Of course there's the health benefits, but just the mental
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: the mental benefits.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I like to do like a hot sauna, then
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: the cold plunge and then back in the back and
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: the yeah.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Bro and so and just just working out, taking carry
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: your mont to carry your body so hard.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Eating so funny too, because like you know, I been
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: trying to do as good as I came on my
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: health and staying active. But it's like every year, like
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: a three month period where I just fall off the
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: fucking rails.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Like I get it. It's so hard.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: It's funny, how like diet discipline and but but when
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: you because I really enjoy working out and hooping. Yeah yeah,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: so like yeah, so like for me, I hate cardio,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: but I could fucking go five on five like three
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: games in a row. I'll be dying, you know, but
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: it's fun. I don't think about that thing sucks and
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I'm super competitive. So it's like, so I get into
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: like the habit of like playing basketball three or four
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: times a week.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like I'm going to work out. I
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: love basketball, so let's go hoop.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: You know, I'll be getting disappointed when I go to
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: the fucking y ms and I just got to fucking
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: shoot by myself.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: No, I don't like that.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: But but it's it's such a it's such a like
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: you know, people got to I feel like there is
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: like a if you could find a way to make
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: the physical activity part something you enjoy. Yeah, Like I
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: know when Cook was losing weight, he was playing pickleball,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: and he enjoyed it, not as.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Much as he enjoys the burgers though, the pickles. No pickleball.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's like tennis, right, Bro, you
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: missed the bar. Bro you said, not as much he
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: enjoyed the burgers. I said the pickles.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Oh you did that?
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: That was that was a bar. Yeah.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I just thinking like, like everybody got to try to
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: be more healthier man, everyone. I mean, discipline, man, is
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: the number one thing that the world is lacking. That
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: that that mankind lacks. Bro, Whether like you said, it's
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: controlling your dick, whether it's controlling.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just I think, you know, just to show people,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: like to make you real A good place to start
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: if you struggle with discipline is start with the smallest things.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, don't go like, oh yeah,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I'm about to start disciplining them all off and the
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: arn hall all day and and.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: You know, like when you get home, don't just throw
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: your clothes on the floor and then getting like no,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: put your shit away.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Right like you know, you know, but something that simple
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: as making your bed up, you know the same. Have
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the same mindset that it takes to make your bed
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: up in the morning. It's the same amount of discipline
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: it will take to do everything.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: It's funny because everybody always says that if you can
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: make your bed in the morning every day, can do everything.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing because you don't have to. Ain't
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: nobody looking most of it? Most of it and nobody's
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: in your room. It's something you're doing for you, right.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: So if you apply that to you know, fitness, you
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: hear I mean to eating, to journaling, you know what
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I mean to whatever?
• 48:28
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• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Do you do the journaling I brought everything. Yeah, it
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: keeps me from crashing up.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: That's some ay, because it's like it's almost like, uh,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: it's crazy because as like as the world has evolved
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: over the years, that's something that like is not. It
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: used to be like a really normal thing, right because
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: like I mean shit, when I was a kid, girls
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: would have diaries. It was like, Yo, I got you
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: a diary for your birthday. Nowadays, I don't know what
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: a kid would do if you bought them a fucking diary.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like true, No, it's
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: it used to be a thing you go, you'd go
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: to the store like.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Not like Barnes and Noble. You'd be like a Target
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: and they'd have a diaries. They don't have fucking diaries
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: of Target anymore, you know what I mean.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Journaling is a big practice of mind. And like I say,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: that's what I mean by the marketing of not even
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: just the market, but the exposure because in my world,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: like the place where I be, the people who are
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: we were just talking about journaling this morning. He got
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: upset this morning because he couldn't find his journal and
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: so it's normal where I'm like, well, my people, it's
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: normal versus I think that it's just and it's just
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: making stuff like I don't say, make it cool again,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: but like it's just making stuff like Bro, it's litive
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: journal Bro, like it's it's it's I think it's gangs.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Therapeutic healing is gangster. B It's the most gangster thing
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: I ever did was Hell and address my trauma, forget
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: my mom and my daddy, bro and apologize. That's the
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: most gangs out of everything I've ever seen and done
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: in the streets, the most gangs shit I ever did
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: was Hell. And what's the slow down journaling? It's my thoughts,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: it's me getting my my my thoughts out saying. And
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I think that if we encourage that more, a lot
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: of these crash outs, a lot of a lot of
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: these situations that be happening, it would just be slower
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: to anger. You know what I'm saying, It'll be It'll
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: just be slower, bro, not saying like I know, I
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: can't say the world, but like Park said, I may
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: not change it, but I will spark the minds of
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: those that will. And I know that I have and
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm continued to do is to spark the minds,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the souls and the spirits. Even if I could just
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: get you to slow down a little bit, you might
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: get you just a thing. You know. That's why you
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: need to man, come on aj McQueen or come to
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: or whatever, because I'm gonna help you slow down. But
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I'm still real. I'm still myself, Like I'm not some
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: fake person that goes to this building and change my
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: persona then come back out. Nah like this me.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't put on you don't put on the
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: the you know, you said this earlier, but like I
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: feel like back in the day, yeah, there was conscious rappers,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: but it was like their image image does that makes sense?
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I definitely agree. I definitely agree.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: And so it was like when they're on camera when
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: they're doing shows, it was like, oh, you're like super conscious,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: but then like you're also like not like you're yeah,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: you're more like back then, you're more like Mason Puffy
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: than you are, like you know, the most death seeing.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: You eat a pork chop sandwich, brother, and you said
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: that you don't eat swan like you know, like it's.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: Just it's just I think that again, the wine is divine.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: By the way, I love the swine.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Get that pork off your fork.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: I love it. You went to Jamaica and didn't enjoy
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: the pork.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Not at all. I have some good fruits, some good mangos.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: But of course, yeah, but you know what I'm saying.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: But listen, Jesus, go to one of those little side
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: of the road spots. O.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Man, my mama used to make a real good pork
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: chop fried pork chop sandwich, you know what I mean.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: And that sounds amazing.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: We got into it, we got in to the argument
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: of the day. Because she's making some pork. I went
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: over to her. I got my mamat the hood. I
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: bought her. Yeah, yeah, bro, she ain't in the hood moment.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: She's in Houston or in Saint Louis, okay, Joe Man,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: in her own place and it's beautiful, right.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: But she was making a porch chop of sandwich. And
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I said, I said, get this swam off your mind.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: She said, Boy, I've been eating pork my whole life.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: It ain't done nothing to me. You need something, you know,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: like and I and when I left, I was thinking,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, she you know what I mean like
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: they used to some wild you know what I mean,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Like I've seen her eat.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: A bowl of chickens and that's why I can't do
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: the chill.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: But I could eat a burger and my whole body
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: make me feel.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, like if I if
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: that's the one thing, there's two things I'll never eat.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Chitlin's and then the Filipinos. They got some shit called bullet.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: It's a half incubated bird egg.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm cool, And there's just two.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: I can't do the intestines and I cannot do the
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: bird the half eaten like these like my homies in
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: the Philippines a week ago and he tried it, so
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: there's there's like feathers like.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't do.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: But look b A l U T. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: most of my I was damn near saying all of
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: my Filipino homies don't fuck with it, but like their
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: grandmas used to eat it. You know, it's like a
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: thing out there.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: And I just introduced one of my homegirls. Well yeah,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: one of my homegirls to dragging fruit first time.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Never dragon fruit.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dragon fruit change your life better and and it
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: helps you know, it helps everything flow properly. You know
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like good, it's amazing, bro, the yellow
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: dragon fruit preferably, you know what I'm saying.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Like, I just do blueberries, raspberries, blackberries, put them in
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: a shake with some yogurts, protein.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: And dragon fruit, mango. You know what I'm saying. I'm
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: planting like and it's just again just balancing. Man. I
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: think that the world, the food and the as technology
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: is advancing, the food is advancing, and not.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Not in a good way way, not in a good way.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: So the simple going back to the simple truth, I
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: think that everything that God made before we touched it
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: was good. So eat of the land, you know what
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, and spending time outside.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: All that my uh my boy, chuck, he says. And
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: I'm trying. I've been. I've been on this like recently.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: If it doesn't have a seed or never had a heartbeat,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: don't need it, so it's like it comes in a bag.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: If it's got like all that processful process. That's the
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: one thing that like I'm just hoping that there's like a.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: There's anything positive to take from the administration that you know,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: RFK is trying to ban like some of this ship.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the blue, the blue number nine, the red dye,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: and you know some of these seed oils. And I got,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I got a bar, I said, I said, I said,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: you eating that processed food. You in a process move?
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And I believe it. Like
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: your move, You're not you know what I'm saying, like,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: because you are what you eat. Yo, yo, your stomach
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: is your second brain.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: If you want to know how fucked we are, just
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: walk through the Cereal aisle. Cereal aisles crazy. I gotta stay.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: They got they I just I was at roups like
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: two days ago and I was walking through the Cereal
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: aisle and they had and you know, I love me
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: some fucking cereal dog. You know what I'm saying all time,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: it's gotta be apple Jack's Peanut Butter Crunch or.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: You wanted new ones, bro apple Jacks apple Jack's Peanut
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Butter Crunch.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: With a.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Crunches of course, that's on the that's on the That's
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: a grail. That's a grail for sure. It's start getting
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: soggy fast.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: You know what's really good that's like a newer one
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: is the Captain Crunch all Berries. That Captain Crunch All
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Berries is a fucking problem line.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: You never a message. I'll be skipping a cereal hour bro,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: because you know, everybody got a thrown on the side, bro, and.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Because you'd be like, damn they got I say to say,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: they just released this whole line of glazed doughnut whole
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: flavored cereals in like different like brandeds, and I was
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: just like, Oh, they're just trying.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: They just are trying to kill everybody.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: I saw a sour Patch Kid cero bro.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw that. The sour Pat Bro. When
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: you're making sour Patch Kid flavored anything, what the fuck?
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Who's eating that shit?
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I went to Jack in the Box again, not the
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: best place to go to, you know, wasn't I was
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: in the Jack in the Box drive through line three
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: in the morning within the last thirty days and they
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: had a collab with Sour Patch Kids, and Jack in
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: the Box is currently selling and I speaking of discipline,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: I was so fucking close to ordering this the because
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: it's the watermelon sour Patch Kid, which are the best
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: because you go to the movies, you get.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: A little fucking watermelons.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: I love watermelons and they're selling sour patch kid, watermelon
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: milkshakes and lemonade. I was so close to just to
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: fucking with that lemonade though, because there's no way that
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: that's not gas.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: He's gonna get gas, all right.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: But yeah we're fucked. Yeah it's great, but it sucks
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: too because it's like, you know, like when when you're
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: fucking struggling, bro, like the struggle meal back in the day,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: it was like you go to McDonald's, you get the
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: mc double for a dollar. No, no, you get the
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: fries for a dollar. Or you know wherever they got
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Jack in the box, you go get two tacos for
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: a dollar.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I was raising the food food does it, bro? So
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I get it one hundred percent in Wilson in my
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: hood in Welson, there's no They'll tell you. I'll take
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: them to Wellston. Like, damn, bro, you can't find no nothing.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Everything is is hood.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Honestly, in Texas is like you certain areas in Texas
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh damn, that's why Texas, motherfuckers is bad.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: If you're like out in the boonies of Texas and
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: you're just like, what do they got, Oh, they got
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: steak in shake and fucking Texas roadhouse.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: And yeah, you know it's gluddeny and it's it's so
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: you know, we obeesis. People don't think it's just on
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: on the full level to America, man, America, this is.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Our this is our mindset. We are.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: You know, there was that AI video that somebody from
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: trying to release that with viral of like what it
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: would look like if Americans had to make iPhones, and
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: it was like just like this like factory of like
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: fat people like on like oxygen.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: Trying to fucking make iPhones.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: That's wild.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, no food is food is you know
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: it's a drug? Man, it is, it is.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: And that's like I said, that's why you know my
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: music through my lifestyle. Like people go on my page
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: and my story right now, then see me like in
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: the kitchen like docing, bro, Like I'm gonna show you
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm a show cold plunging. If
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: we're gonna use it, if we're gonna use these devices
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: to market, don't show anything, but I'm gonna show the
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: real something that can help people, you know what I mean?
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Like you click on my page, you're gonna see something different.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you're gonna you're gonna heart
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: you click on music, you're gonna heard you know, love
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: and life and you know what I'm saying, and and
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: and and and ship. That's good for your soul, you
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And that's what we need more
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: because I believe it shows people like, Okay, that's more
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: to life. But if the media, mass media could se
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: to promote you know what I'm saying, the bullshit, that's
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: all people gonna gravitation is you know.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Saint Louis is one of those places that it's like
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: famously dangerous. Uh, you know, it's like it's kind of crazy.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I almost moved there. Actually, I almost took a job
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: at the radio station there.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Was it hot? What's the hip hop station there?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Is hot? Yeah, it's hot.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: That would have This was like twenty.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Twelve, went out there, ended up at the Pink Cadillac
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: or the Pink Slip and he's Saint Louis.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Yeahrip club Saint Louis Is, that's what.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I don't go over there, but very serious place over there. Yeah,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: but I almost moved there. And I remember back then
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: like my boy who was out there, was telling me
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: like yo, sh it's like serious out here. But it's
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: like now, it's like now it's number one, number two
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: at all times of like dangerous cities in America, Like
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: it's it's a war zone.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: It's like a certain parts of Saint Louis are still
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: segregated though, So that's why you would talk to somebody else.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: And it's beautiful here. I love it here, but they
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: on the whole other side, they not talking about none
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: of none of the areas that you're talking about. But
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: the areas that you are talking about. That's where I'm from,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: from the west side, sexy origin from the north side.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Uh Nelly and them, you city, you know what I'm saying. Like,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: that's why when Nieling them came out, it inspired the
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: whole city, you know what I mean, because we ain't
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: never even seen like that somebody can come from this city,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that's why making my
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: business to go back home. I just left home. Actually
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: we had a tornado that hit the city really lad,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: so I was out there, you know, donating, and you know,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I created the same Louis Relief fun and I partnered
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: with the Urban League out there. You know what I'm
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: saying helping them. And the city is horrible, bro, it's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: a it's a war zone, you know what I mean. Like,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: and I don't encourage anybody to go. And if you
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: don't have to beat there, don't whatever. Right, But again
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: me using who I me, being who I am, and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: continue to represent my city even though I don't live
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: there actively, that's still you know, it's still my heart
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: and so you know, to show that we can grow
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: from these places, bro Like, we can. We can get older, bro,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: we can, we can we can have healthy family bro Like.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm talking specifically to you know what I'm saying
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: that you know the wayians and the inspiring hy ens man,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We can grow, Broye. We can,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: we can evolve. You can, you can you can eat better, Bro,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: you can live better. And and if you feel like that,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: it's gonna stop you from being successful. Look at me.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I live, I don't. I'm
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: the same way what I got five dollars in my
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: pocket of five thousand. But just know that things are
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: real good over here, right, But again just showing showing
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: that you know what I'm saying, Like, Nah, Bro, it's
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: a difference out here and we need to see more
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: of it. So yeah, that's why, that's why I've been
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: moving around. How moving I'm telling my team, I'm I
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: don't even this is my first B t H week, right, Like,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I don't really do industry stuff, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: because it's really authentically myself and I only want to
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: operate in spaces that are authentic as well. But we've
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: been able to find a way to align ourselves with this,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: the authentic spaces and not going to fake environments where
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I gotta be all like, I don't want to take
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: a photo out of somebody that I don't really like,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: I don't align with you know what I'm saying, I
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: don't want to rap with you, bro, if if if
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: you don't take Cary, your kids and women.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: Some crazy shit, But that's don't.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, Like I don't. I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: don't care who you are, how much money you got,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't even matter to me, bro, Like it don't matter.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: So now that we've been able to you know, create
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: these spaces and you know, be invited to platform like
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: yours different places, it really shows, like Okay, there's a
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: way to do this and still be authentic. You know
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: what I mean.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: It is crazy how much we forgive people because we
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: love their art.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: I just told somebody this other day. I said, hey,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: I talk to homegirl and you're talking about life or whatever,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, man, my family, fuck my momauck
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: my mama. I was like, oh, okay. But being the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: same conversation, he posted something about uh no. She said
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: something some are k Kanye or some sort and I said, man,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: it's amazing how we we give uh Kanye more grace
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: than we do our family. And she was like, uh huh.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: He's a genius. And you just see like the you
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: can see the the rage. You know what I'm saying, Like, no,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: I love I love Kanye. I got you, but you
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: literally just said fuck your mama. And I'm saying, but
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: you give more grace, And I just do. I think
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: that every time Kanye splash out there, you have this
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: certain group and only Kanye asn example.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: There's way more people, but that is a good example.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: But you know it's this, oh man, remember when he
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: made graduation.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Bro, However you feel about Kanye, he has more grace
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: than maybe anybody on the fucking planet.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: And all I'm saying because we love.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: His art so much, so people people will be like, yeah,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: but there's there's something deeper and like some of the
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: stuff he's saying, there's there's some deeper ship there right, No,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: for sure, but it's like, you know, but he's also
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: the same guy who's like, you know, it's just a
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: lot but right, So.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Using him as an example, and again, like you said,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the other people as well, if we just extend that
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: same amount of grace to the real people that we know.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, in your real life, your
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: your your daddy, your mama, or your sister brother who
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: probably did some messed up ship or whatever whatever, but
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: we've been holding grudge on them. But you can go
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: play Graduation right now and be like, oh yeah, that's
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: It's just like it's obviously too. It's like that's not
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: like Kanye didn't personally do something to.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: You, right right, right right, We give we will throw
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: out all the principles if we fun with your album,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: we will.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Throw all the principles. And instead of applying those principles
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: to real life at times, and like I say, and
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: I I love Kanye, by the way, so I'm not
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: even I ain't one of them that's been a you know,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: bash him or anything like.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: That player because of him.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Man, I love I think how your genius.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: I think that.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: I think that a lot of artists are too. But
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I just think that as we detached from the people
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: we don't know, the fake life, we start applying this love,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: grace and forgiveness to real people in real life, I
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: think that we will find ourselves growing healing, you know
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: what I mean a lot of people in weaponizing uh
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: therapy and I hate that, a lot of people in
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: weaponize and consciousness and god, I hate it. But you know,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: let's get that. Let's get to a real place in
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: our real life, you know what I mean, Because it's
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: something like we got.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: I love it. Man, Well listen, what do you got
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: to You got a ton of music out?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, I just dropped. I dropped the mixtape again,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: all independent, you know what I'm saying through even and
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: it's going still going crazy, you know. I mean, I'm
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: gonna wrap bro and all that be. I'll never do
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: nothing with the verses, bro, So let's show you the
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: amount of music I really do and write how much
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: I really write? That's for free bro. That was that
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: was nineteen tracks on that mixtape. I did a mixtape
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: before that, it was twenty three. I've never used some
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: verses again, I don't even use them on my on
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: my you know, my album.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: And the only way people can get that is it
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: will never hit DSPs.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Ye never hit d sps. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: You want it for real? Supports the art by direction?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Can people buy that stuff? Like if you have a
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: live show, are you are you making physical media?
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: That not even stuff? Not not of that stuff. Now.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: I dropped my album, my first album, Sorry Miles distracted.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: I have vinyls, you know, I mean some people come
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: to shows give vinyls to get merch all that. And
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I just wrapped up my new album, you know what
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I got a new album that that
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: will be dropping in July and it's called When We Evolved.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: A features, Yeah, I got who features? I got a
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Cidi Hendrix out of Atlanta's hard to say that's my dog, Uh,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Foggy Raw, you know what I'm saying. He he's dope,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: he's out of Atlanta. He's he's he's dope. Earil J.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: He's amazing. I got some I got some other people too. Yeah,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: I got some other people too. But it's it's it
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: come out of July and then then I'm the role
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: right after.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When we've off tour fifteen cities,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: And have you had like a O G like trying
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: to really embrace what you're doing it all?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Like someone you could call it like I'm talking about,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: like you know a hip hop artist who's like successful
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: that like has maybe taken a liking to what you
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: got going on that you're able to kind of tap
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: into for advice or I'm.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Like, I want to say yeah and no, I think
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: that I have had a lot of people taping you
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, m H I want I wouldn't
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: say they've extended the like hey, if you need something,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: and I have my own personal reasons for that, you
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you know, But there has been
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: people that have reached out like all over you know
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you know, and hearing me and repost
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: the music. But because I've pushed the independence wave and
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: the confidence I have some people see me as a threat,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, which I don't understand why,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: but I believe that that's why. It's not as simple
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: as a you need something, call me. You know what
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, I give you the game. It's because you know,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: dare I say, I want to be the greatest too.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you know it's kind
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: of that that Jordan, you know what I'm saying, like like,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I want to be the greatest bro like you. If
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: there's a conversation you know, nas park oh all that
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I want you to say, Jim Queen, you know what
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And because that's my energy when I you
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: know whatever, some people they may see it it's like, Okay,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: he don't need my help. But that ain't even the case.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm journeying through you know what I mean. And
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I respect all my legends. I love my legends. You
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, But I want to be in
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: that conversation with you. I don't want to be Yeah man,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: he was he was another whatever. Nah, I want to
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: be a j McQueen bro. You know what I'm saying,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: one one of one and like some people you know
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: think I want to be the greatest rap of all time.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: I want to be the greatest writer of all time.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: Are you gonna try to do like other forms of
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: I'm continuing to write screenplay.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I write, I write books. Brouh.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I write poetry. Music is my is my meeting of
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: the writing. You know, album and the poetry book would
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: be hard. It's it's I just wrapped up on what
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like it's called sitt yourself down. Yeah, so
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: I haven't announced check you know. I mean maybe when
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: this dropped.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: That's a great that's a great way to again, like
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: you have, you have a following, So it's like yo, yeah, no,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm in most most artists, most rappers, they're writers.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: It's just again they don't hone in on on that.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: You know, I would have dropped a book of his
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: poems was released after he passed.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: If he would have dropped it wild, you know what
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, like it it would have been crazy. So
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: stuff like that I got coming out, Like I said,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: I got the album to tour. You know, my my brand,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: my company is God by the Energy, you know what
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: I mean. So that's my entertainment company. So I do
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: everything through my entertainment company. Uh, and I'm going to
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: be uh bringing in other artists. I want to sign
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: other artists, bro, like people of like minds. That's again
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: that's operating in a in that space. I want to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: sign you. Help you use the same tools that I
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: use for myself.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, man, go support this guy. Is there like
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: a website, everybody can get.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Every AJ at a great dot com and then of
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: course aj McQueen on all platforms. The music is on
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: even you can go there. Just go to the website
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: and get that going on tour soon and a new
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: album drop soon.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: Boom appreciate you pulling up, brok ay J. Thank you
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: brother Boom
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: H