Latest / The Mark Simone Show / Mark interviews filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, it's been quite a day in Israel. Now you
- 0:03Speaker 1: know Densh de Suza, the great author, scholar, a filmmaker.
- 0:06Speaker 1: His latest film, beautiful film, powerful film documentary. It's called
- 0:11Speaker 1: The Dragons Prophecy. It's out. We want you to see it.
- 0:16Speaker 1: It's the most incredible look back at October seventh, with
- 0:19Speaker 1: footage never before seen and the whole history to ancient times.
- 0:23Speaker 1: It's a powerful film, The Dragon's Prophecy. Densh de Suzza,
- 0:28Speaker 1: how you doing.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Pleasure?
- 0:32Speaker 3: And yes, of course what an exhilarating We profiled one
- 0:39Speaker 3: of the families I hated him, a named Leshai Miran
- 0:43Speaker 3: outside her little kibbutz, interviewed a woman nahal Oz community
- 0:49Speaker 3: and she described and harrowing in bill what happened to
- 0:52Speaker 3: them on October seventh. And of course she and the
- 0:55Speaker 3: two little girls have been the care dad for two
- 0:58Speaker 3: years straight. So to see some picture and without the
- 1:02Speaker 3: warning of their family reunion, I mean I was quite overwhelmed,
- 1:06Speaker 3: my wife. It's very personal in that sense.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Yeah, Denish, can we call you right back? I think
- 1:11Speaker 1: your phone is cracking up. Let's let's call him right back,
- 1:14Speaker 1: because that's not him, that's the phone. Yeah, it's a
- 1:17Speaker 1: very very powerful film. October seventh. He's got footage that
- 1:21Speaker 1: is so graphic of what happened and so real, and
- 1:25Speaker 1: it's an amazing film. The Dragon's Prophecy. You can buy it,
- 1:28Speaker 1: it's on Amazon, it's there's showings in theaters. But it's
- 1:34Speaker 1: a great film and it's so appropriate today. Hostages released,
- 1:39Speaker 1: they're back with their families. The President in Egypt right
- 1:41Speaker 1: now meeting with all these world leaders who are partners
- 1:45Speaker 1: in this deal. And this film is a look like
- 1:50Speaker 1: at October seventh like you've never seen before. An interviews.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Oh we got them back, deniesh Desusa. How are you?
- 1:56Speaker 1: Let's see if it's a.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Hey Mark, I'm doing great. Oh you hear me? Better?
- 2:00Speaker 1: Uch much better? Now? Where where can people see the film?
- 2:04Speaker 2: So the film is in streaming and DVD and go
- 2:07Speaker 2: to the website which is The Dragonsploral, The Dragons prophecyfilm
- 2:13Speaker 2: dot Com. You can stream it, you can order your DVDs.
- 2:17Speaker 2: It ties into all the stuff going on now. So
- 2:19Speaker 2: it's a wonderfully timely film, and it also is although
- 2:24Speaker 2: it takes you to some dark places, it ends on
- 2:27Speaker 2: a note of exhilaration, spiritual renewal, so it seems particularly
- 2:31Speaker 2: fitting for this moment.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the ultimate film on what happened on October sinth.
- 2:35Speaker 1: The footage is quite amazing that you've gotten a hold of.
- 2:38Speaker 1: And how long did this whole thing take to do?
- 2:42Speaker 2: Well, we started it about a year ago, and remarkably
- 2:46Speaker 2: the film is even more timely than when we were
- 2:49Speaker 2: shooting it. I show footage that's never before seen of
- 2:53Speaker 2: October seventh. Interestingly, the government of Israel opted to hold
- 2:58Speaker 2: back on that footage, I think out of respect for
- 3:01Speaker 2: the families, but I thought it's important for people to
- 3:04Speaker 2: be on the scene and get some real experiential sense
- 3:07Speaker 2: of what that was like. And then the film goes
- 3:11Speaker 2: to the widest possible themes, which is it tries to
- 3:14Speaker 2: interpret the events not just from a political but also
- 3:17Speaker 2: from a biblical and a prophetic perspective.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Yeah, today obviously historic, a wonderful day piece. But how
- 3:27Speaker 1: much faith do you have in this holding up this
- 3:30Speaker 1: whole piece deal over the years.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Well, I think if you believe the Bible, this issue
- 3:37Speaker 2: is not going to be permanently resolved until maybe the
- 3:41Speaker 2: end of time. I've seen so many other conflicts settled
- 3:46Speaker 2: and this one continues to fester. Now, I do want
- 3:49Speaker 2: to credit Trump. I mean, over my adult lifetime, I've
- 3:52Speaker 2: seen the Nixon Plan, the Carter Plan, the Clinton Plan,
- 3:55Speaker 2: and none of them have really made measurable progress. But
- 3:58Speaker 2: this really is a momentous step forward. So I won't
- 4:03Speaker 2: say I'm optimistic, but I am hopeful that we can
- 4:06Speaker 2: build on what we see today.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Yeah, the film is called The Dragon's Prophecy. You've got
- 4:11Speaker 1: to see this film and you deal with how far
- 4:15Speaker 1: back into ancient times this all goes. You know, presidents
- 4:17Speaker 1: have tried giving land. In this deal, it's about giving
- 4:22Speaker 1: an economy and booming economy to going back to the beginning,
- 4:28Speaker 1: what is really the root of this conflict.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Well, the biblical perspective basically says that Israel has always
- 4:38Speaker 2: been fighting for its life, and in fact, there is
- 4:42Speaker 2: an eerie similarity between this war that we've been witnessing
- 4:46Speaker 2: for two years and the ancient war between the Israelites
- 4:51Speaker 2: and their longtime enemy called the Philistines now Philistine Palestine.
- 4:56Speaker 2: That is actually the same word. It's the same name.
- 5:00Speaker 2: We're not just talking about the same name. We're talking
- 5:02Speaker 2: about very similar tactics. The ancient Philistines would capture Israelites
- 5:09Speaker 2: would drag them literally to Gaza. Gaza's mentioned in the Bible,
- 5:14Speaker 2: and then in the Bible it says that when Samson,
- 5:16Speaker 2: the hero who represents the strength of Israel, is captured,
- 5:20Speaker 2: he's blinded in somewhat the same way Israel was blinded
- 5:24Speaker 2: in October seventh. He was paraded in front of the
- 5:27Speaker 2: people of Gaza quote for their entertainment. And similarly with
- 5:31Speaker 2: the captives of October seventh, they were stripped to the waist,
- 5:35Speaker 2: they were dragged to Gaza, they were paraded while people
- 5:38Speaker 2: were shouting a lahuak bar. So all of this is
- 5:41Speaker 2: a way of saying that the events that we're seeing
- 5:44Speaker 2: in front of our eyes are not just ordinary events.
- 5:47Speaker 2: They have deep biblical resonance, and so we have a
- 5:52Speaker 2: wide angle lens in looking at all of this in
- 5:55Speaker 2: this film.
- 5:57Speaker 1: It's a powerful film. It's called The Dragons to See
- 6:00Speaker 1: and what's the website.
- 6:02Speaker 2: The website is The Dragons prophecyfilm dot com. It's available
- 6:08Speaker 2: in streaming and in DVD now. It's also available on
- 6:11Speaker 2: the platform called Rumble where you can kind of pay
- 6:13Speaker 2: per view at just purchase and click and watch. So
- 6:16Speaker 2: great film to watch right now, because it's very much
- 6:19Speaker 2: in tune with the spirit of renewal. We've been hearing
- 6:22Speaker 2: a lot about that since Charlie Kirk's death. I think
- 6:24Speaker 2: that idea is reinforced by what happened today, and so
- 6:29Speaker 2: this is a film that will leave you exhilarated and motivated.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've got great interviews in there with Nyahu
- 6:35Speaker 1: and Mike Kukaby. Talk about Mike Kukaby's role in all
- 6:38Speaker 1: this well.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Huckaby is a very interesting character because he is not
- 6:43Speaker 2: only the ambassador and a politician, but he's also a pastor.
- 6:47Speaker 2: And one of the big issues that we're dealing with
- 6:50Speaker 2: now in critiques of Israel and Jews from the right
- 6:54Speaker 2: is this question of whether or not somehow the New
- 6:57Speaker 2: Testament and Jesus makes the Old Testament obsolete. I mean
- 7:03Speaker 2: that idea is in fact, on the face of it, preposterous, right,
- 7:06Speaker 2: because from the Old Testament we get creation, we get
- 7:09Speaker 2: the idea of fall in human nature, we get the
- 7:11Speaker 2: Ten Commandments, we get the Hebrew Profits. So the idea
- 7:15Speaker 2: that this can all be kind of kicked out from
- 7:17Speaker 2: under us, I think is an affront to Christianity over
- 7:20Speaker 2: two thousand years, but yet we're hearing it from influential
- 7:23Speaker 2: voices on the right, and so it's sort of drawn
- 7:27Speaker 2: me somewhat reluctantly into a public confrontation with the characters
- 7:31Speaker 2: because I think it's bad for Maga, it's bad for Trump,
- 7:34Speaker 2: but it's also ultimately bad for Christianity.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's a great film. Denish Desius has made
- 7:39Speaker 1: a lot of great films through the years, but this
- 7:41Speaker 1: one of documentary called The Dragons Prophecy no more interesting
- 7:47Speaker 1: examination of October seventh, great interviews. Good give us the
- 7:51Speaker 1: website again.
- 7:53Speaker 2: The website is the Dragons plural The Dragon's Prophecy Film.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Don't forget the film The Dragon's Prophecyfilm dot Com. Check
- 8:01Speaker 2: it out. You really won't regret it. It's a little
- 8:04Speaker 2: bit of a departure for me because most of my
- 8:06Speaker 2: other films have been, in one way or another, just
- 8:08Speaker 2: about the meaning of America looked at from a political
- 8:11Speaker 2: and historical perspective. But this film engages the world. It
- 8:16Speaker 2: engages the human soul, the great struggle between good and evil,
- 8:19Speaker 2: you know, God and the devil. The dragon actually is
- 8:22Speaker 2: a reference to Satan himself from the Book of revelation.
- 8:25Speaker 2: So this is a film that takes on a much
- 8:28Speaker 2: bigger topic than I've dealt with before, and it uses
- 8:31Speaker 2: a more spiritual lens than I have in my earlier work.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, you can buy you can buy the DVD
- 8:36Speaker 1: on Amazon, and well you can also see it un
- 8:38Speaker 1: Rumbled the Dragon's Prophecies on Rumble if you want to
- 8:43Speaker 1: pay for review it there. Well, great work, deniesh Desusa,
- 8:46Speaker 1: thanks for being.
- 8:47Speaker 2: With us, really appreciate it.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Thank you. Take care. It's a powerful film, and what
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