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Honey Badger Radio targeted by Homeland Security Part 3 | Rantzerker 196 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, good morning, good evening, good afternoon, whoever, wherever,
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  whoever, whatever you may be. My name is Brian Allison, and this
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  is the Slim Zirker. Like I've just left the title because I didn't want
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  to confuse people more than we already do. But yeah, it's a Sans
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  Karen Zerker. It's just so it'll probably be slightly less ranty, but maybe
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  a little bit more focused. I don't know on point. Uh yeah,
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  we're just mopping up on this. The heck is this that the Homeland Security
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  targets? I guess directing all all systems are go to get us off the
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  platform or redirected its Yeah, redirected the children is all I'm saying. Yeah,
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  if you didn't know, you're listening to some seriously out there content.
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  You know, you may think it's common sense, but Homeland Security would like
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  to have a word with you about that. Yes, all right, speaking
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  slash just the tip. Tell us we're not screaming into the void by sending
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  us a message. Okay, No. Every day that passes, I feel
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  like we're less likely to be screaming of the void because other people are being
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  vomited up out of the void and they're finding themselves in near us. Yeah,
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  they're they're they're vomited out of the on the other side of the of
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  the of the chasm, the chasm that I talk about, the chasm that
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  requires a lot of pain for people to actually cross. Yeah, they're being
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  vomited up on our side, and they're like, yes, welcome, welcome
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  to the civilization. On the other side of the chasm, we have we
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  have scones. Okay, let's uh, let's get doing all right. So
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  continuing this video, and I have a very useful tool for finding specific bits
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  of content. So I have this tool. It lets you It creates a
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  transcript of an entire video. So this video is like an hour and a
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  half long, so in normal in Badger time, that would take us about
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  fifteen years to go through. So with this tool, we can just search
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  a keyword so and it'll find it in the transcript, and it'll take you
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  right to the point in the video where these words were used. So I
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  decided to test it out, and I taked in a favorite misogyny and I
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  lo and behold, I found it. So here it's not It wasn't really
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  that hard, I know. So here is you only found one instance of
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  massage? No, no, no, there's there's a couple. It's in
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  your more than one. This is not well seasoned. This is not no
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  you know, you know what I noticed about the transcript because I was looking
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  at this. It's a couple of things. I think. One thing that's
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  actually very interesting is they are they appear to be trying to avoid using words
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  like misogyny and chauvinism and sexism, because I think that those words are losing
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  their power, and so instead they use the words like radical, like violent,
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  you know, So they're they're ramping up the length the lingo. So
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  misogyny doesn't come up that much. But I think it's because they feel like
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  and I don't think it's true, but I think they feel as though it
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  will fall on deaf ears and so it probably isn't constructive and that might have
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  something to do with their own sort of like you know, idea about people
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  like not caring enough about dangerous violent misogyny, you know what I mean.
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  I think people don't care enough about women. Yes, why don't they care
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  even more about women? I think care more about women. All right,
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  Oh, you wanted me to start, so I found and if you guys,
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  if you guys want to, you can send me a message with a
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  keyword you want me to look up and see if it's in here. That
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  could be like a fun game. It'd be like bingo, but you're like
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  guessing the numbers to see if they're in the low bar. Uh, what
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  the link is in the low bar to the video? Yeah, no,
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  no, to the to the trans No no, no, no no no
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  no. You're guessing, so you can't look at the transcript because then you
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  can just see it. You're basically saying, oh, does it have you
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  know? Uh? Is I don't know, like extremism in here? And
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  how many times is entitlement in here? Is rape culture in here? Is
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  white supremacy in here? Like things like that for it, And then we'll
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  play a clip if it comes up to see what the context is. All
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  right, So guys, send us a hot a hot topic, a buzzword,
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  send us a buzzword? How many buzzwords are in here? Exactly?
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  Through super chat or super chat, and we will search the document. But
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  until then, we will look at the instances of misogyny in this. What
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  is the document called again, you gotta start, you gotta start at the
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  beginning. Well, the video is diverting hate. I think it's called diverting
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  hate. Invent to prevent collegiate finals all one. This is an additional like
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  this isn't this isn't the is the event to prevent the same group as the
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  one that is trying to create twitters. Yeah, yeah, Department Homeland Security
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  people. Yeah, I know that they applied to the Department of Homeland Security.
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  But was this a different group other than the one that we covered before?
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  Is this a new group or is this the same group? No,
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  it's the same group, like we we started watching this video. But here's
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  the thing about this. So I've been I've watched more than half of this
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  already, almost actually amend the last twenty five percent, like the last quarter
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  of the And what I'm realizing is and this is actually pretty like to me,
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  it's pretty scary. These are college students that have all put together their
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  own presentations and they're trying to win a kind of award or accolade or contest
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  with their college professors. And they all have the same objective. It's like
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  essentially like, you know, come up with a solution for online violent misogyny.
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  And so the reason why I think this is actually the probably one of
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  the most interesting things is it shows you just how thoroughly indoctrinated these students are
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  and what encourages it. So it's not like they just go to a class
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  and the teacher is like you know, we're going to learn about how women
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  were oppressed throughout all of history. It's not just that, because if it
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  was just like that, then maybe some of them will question their teacher,
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  they'll be a little bit more critical or whatever. But one of the ways
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  they get these kids like over the hump as they say, we're gonna have
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  a contest. Whoever can make the best case for patriarchy is the winner.
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  And so like all these kids that that are really like you know, they're
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  they're trying to get a good education. They want to get the accreditation,
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  they want to get out with like the highest accolades, because it gives them
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  the best chances of getting a job. And so they will do that,
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  right, they will. They will go above and beyond. And they're because
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  all the kids and their instructors and the professors are all aiming towards the same
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  target, which is you know, online hate groups, then these students are
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  more likely to believe it. So it's not just coming from what is perceived
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  to be an authoritative, you know source, which is like their professors,
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  but they're also encouraged to research it. So they're gonna go and to come
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  up with these plans and so they're gonna go to people who already have a
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  bias. They're going to go to sources that already have a bias, and
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  they're never going to be introduced to anything outside of it. So in a
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  way, I feel like what we're gonna hear is probably gonna be infuriating.
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  But bear in mind, these are students, they have been there. They're
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  not They're not saying like stuff that they legitimately believe. They're saying what they
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  think they have to to like win the award, to get the accolades.
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  Right, Yeah, exactly after a while, you know what I'm saying,
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  No, I got you, I got you. Well, I mean now
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  they're invested in it. Now, it's a sneaky way of getting them invested
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  in this particular. The thing is that there's a there's a phenomenon where if
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  you bring someone who's completely neutral, like, for example, you show them
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  a court case and then you have them, for example, argue the defense.
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  And so you put a group of people. You have one group argue
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  the defense and the other group argue the prosecution, even though they came to
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  the court case without any prejudgment, any bias. Once they've argued one side,
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  and they've invested in it. They are now biased for that side.
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  You know, it's something that everybody needs to be concerned about in their own
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  beliefs, in their own expectations. But it you know, when you do
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  things like this, like when you present to students in college, this kind
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  of well, take this side and argue it. They invest in believing what
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  they've argued. It's sort of an aspect of human psychology, even if they
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  didn't believe either way before they started arguing it. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  So all right, so let's get into the video. I'm going to
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  start by looking for the first case of misogyny. This is fifty three minutes
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  and fifty three seconds in long damn video. See it is a long video.
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  It is so and they're introducing a presenter. So this is like the
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  third I think presenters and they're all, no, that can't be Michael Flood.
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  I don't know is that Michael. I don't think Michael Floods. It
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  looks like that. I have no idea. It does look like that,
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  does he? Oh well, I don't know who that is. Oh well,
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  but this might be. This is This is in the University of Atlanta,
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  is it, yes, University of Yeah, I think I think he's
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  in North Carolina. I think, yeah. So it's like Atlanta Atlanta flood.
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  That can be misconstrued. All right, let's let's all right, let's
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  play this first clip here we gon Hi you guys, Thanks so much for
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  that presentation. And I will openly admit a lot. I actually, when
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  I worked at Facebook, helped launch some of their redirect initiatives in about five
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  different countries. All right, just pausing there, I want to read what
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  she said. Okay, what she said. I will openly admit a little
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  bit of bias because I actually, when I worked at Facebook launch helped launch
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  some of their redirect initiatives in about five different countries. So she's already been
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  working with Facebook in redirecting content. Obviously, we knew that this was going
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  on for years because, like you know, we were affected by it.
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  We had our fan page shut down. And it's not just Facebook, it's
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  obviously actually we had our fan page shut down for nudity, for violating nudity
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  of all things, it was what was the nudity, I don't remember it,
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  well, it doesn't matter. It was our fan page. So and
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  it was too bad because that was actually very it was growing quite a bit.
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  It was a pretty big page for a Facebook page. But anyway,
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  so just you know this woman, you know, she used to she worked
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  in big tech, so she could have been responsible for shutting it down.
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  She could have been trused. Yeah. And also they took away because I
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  went through the trouble of getting Honey Badger Radio verified as a or Honey Badger
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  yeah, as a company because we are, and they took that away too.
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  Uh. They took it away for all small business businesses. Actually,
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  so yeah, Facebook has been blocking us, cock blocking us too. I
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  mean, all the platforms have been. The only platform we're actually growing on
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  is Twitter. Wow. Isn't that a surprise? Hunh guys. I mean,
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  and I know we're not growing like let's be frank, Oh, we're
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  I think we're getting the reach that we are probably like that we would organically
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  have gotten anywhere else. I'm not saying that we're going to be huge like
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  we're not. We don't we're not packaged in the way that people who come
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  to these media platforms and they want to present sort of a set schema,
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  you know, like this is a completely this is wild West the whole idea
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  of considering men in the gender conjecture, you know, is totally wild West.
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  It's like there's a lot of new thought that's happening. So it's like
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  a different thing. It's like we're we're inviting a discussion, whereas a lot
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  of other people come to the social media platform are really just applying a lens
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  that you know, are already existing political position. And it's different. And
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  I'm not saying that they're bad and we're good. I'm just saying that that
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  appeals to a lot more people than what we do because we're not really offering
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  certainties, and we're certainly talking about things that people find uncomfortable. Like Okay,
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  a while back, she did a video in which she directed whoever in
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  our audience was open to it to come to our discord to talk to us
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  as a as a, as a as a community. That's really about trying
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  to do something about the epidemic of loneliness for men and also the epidemic of
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  being targeted by a demonizing narrative. But let's set that aside. So one
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  of these individuals came into the discord and he started talking about big P patriarchy,
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  and really, yeah, no, toxic masculinity. And I said to
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  him, why toxic masculinity is putting the onus back on men? Like,
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  if if it's really about expectations placed on men, why do we call it
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  talk? This is exactly what I said, If it's about toxic expectations placed
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  on men, why do we call it toxic masculinity instead of toxic expectations?
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  And he bahold just from that question. Yeah, like he just disappeared,
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  and it was It was interesting to me because I think that what bothered him
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  most was the way that that questions men's identity of response, like the ultimate
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  arbiters of the the buck stops with men basically, And I think that's really
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  uncomfortable, definitely, And it's something we run into a lot too. Yes,
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  that that guy that's been challenging us to a debate for like the last
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  Yeah, I don't even want to deal with, Like he's still on I
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  know, I know. It's it's funny because there it was certain that this
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  is about winning some kind of debate and it's like, guys, we're just
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  trying to we're just trying to table the discussion. Yeah, you know,
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  you need to know what we're asking for you don't even know what we stand
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  for. Well, here's the thing. How are men supposed to take care
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  of the wounds wounds women give them or could give them? You know,
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  how are they supposed to take care of those wounds or prevent them if they
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  don't recognize them in the first place? Mm hmmm, Like, how do
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  you take responsibility for your life if you don't recognize its pitfalls? Like you
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  just can't, you know, it's it's the male role now, is another
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  way of putting your fingers in your ears and saying, not my problem.
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  My life isn't my problem. You know, the pitfalls that could occur to
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  me as not my problem because they don't exist. That's another way of your
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  fingers in your ears and going la la la la la. Okay. It's
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  another way of denying reality and living in copeland. So and it's hard because
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  it does grun up against the identities that we have as men and women,
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  and that's uncomfortable. And like I've said multiple times now, it's not about
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  us being so impossible to understand because we're like one hundred and sixty IQ.
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  No, this stuff is easy to understand. Don't keep pushing on the pole
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  door. Don't keep pushing on the pole door. Somebody with a functional iea
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  intelligence can understand that, but people don't get it because they are identifying with
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  opening doors by pushing on them. It's essential as that. And then if
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  you say, well, I think this door needs to be opened by pulling
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  on it, they get they go get really upset because now you're challenging their
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  identity. That's what happens when people identify with particular forms of solutions. You
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  know, if something comes up that isn't solved with the select that they identify
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  with, they will spend forever explaining how the problem is wrong and the solution
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  is correct. So you gotta push, you gotta pull door, you're pushing
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  it. They're gonna spend forever sitting outside in the rain, in the sleet,
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  in the baking heat in summer explaining how the door is wrong instead of
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  simply opening the door by pulling on it. And we've seen this happen over
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  and over and over again. All right, yep, Oh, sorry,
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  I got some superchows and super chats and stuff, so I'm gonna read them
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  because they they will disappear from my my social stream Ninja. So one Richard
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  Biere gives us five dollars and just says patriarchy. I think he wants me
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  to search patriarchy. I will do that on next after we're done with the
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  misogyny. I'm sure patriot, Well, you know, I don't know.
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  Maybe it's not like I, like I said, I think the feminists have
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  been trying to like orient of tactics, like not using the same words because
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  they know that people are just sort of getting like a you know, bad
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  taste in their mouth from it. But thank you Richard for that. Then
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  I got let me see, I think I saw like a rumble rant or
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  something, so I just want to find it in the chat here. Yes
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  I did. Iggy Thunders gives us five dollars, thank you, and says
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  feminist. The MRAs are turning the frog's base. Do you understand that?
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  And I'm not going along with it? Do you understand that? Okay,
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  I don't think feminist is your word suggestion. I think you're just making a
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  super chow let me or a super chat rumble rant. I'm sorry, a
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  rumble. And then I got a super chat from signor Styx, and he
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  says for two dollars. Did you hear about PM Trudy fight isis with the
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  gay? I don't is that? So? I guess Trudeau trud What are
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  they with the gay? They're they're they're dusting off the I think it was
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  the a C, like an old C, I a psyops where they were
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  trying to do like a gay ray that they would use against enemy forces so
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  that they would be too absorbed in having sex to actually fight. Oh,
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  I'm pretty sure that's like some Samson and Delilah ship right there, and that's
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  old. Well, what's interesting is the the I think it was the CIA
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  that was trying to do it like all of the all of the wacky shenanigans
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  around Castro with the CIA CIA versus Castro. You've heard about all that,
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  right, Yeah, I think so is I mean is this recent? No?
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  No, I think this is like declassified information. But they used to,
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  they used to get up to some seriously serious bizarre ideas. Let's just
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  say not surprised. No, I mean we are, we are. We
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  we have a weakness. We have a weakness. So okay, let's hear
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  honestly, I think that when it comes to exploitation like psyops, and all
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  this stuff, like using our lust is probably the most like consistently effective means
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  of control. I mean, just ask Jeffrey Epstein. Oh I'm sorry,
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  Wait, he's no longer with us. Okay, but here's the thing.
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  Using your lust is one thing, but inducing gayness in the enemy in order
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  to distract them with themselves. It's it's a couple of levels, full strategy,
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  Cotton. Let's see how it works out for them. Yeah, well
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  they try. I mean, they're doing it to people's kids. I mean,
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  I don't know. It's they're actually making them gay, They're making them
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  question there, Oh did you Okay, let's okay, I'm not going to
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  get into it. Let's get back on topic. Okay, let's go out
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  one more. I did get one more super chow from Richard Bierre again,
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  and he gives us five dollars and says, remember how popular the glasses that
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  Sarah Palin had were doing during the election campaign. Lots of women wanted that
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  style. No I didn't. I wasn't paying attention. Okay, let's thank
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  you for that, Richard. All right, let's play the rest of this
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  clip. What is this woman? Very well, so you're definitely what I
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  liked is that you weren't starting from zero. There definitely has been efforts to
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  redirect, but not that I know of on Twitter so far. I know
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  it exists on Facebook, Instagram, being YouTube, Google, but usually not
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  around misogyny based violence. What was this one? Okay, so before Musk
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  took over? No, one year ago? Yeah, it says the Fall,
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  So the videos put up one year ago, but it says the Fall
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  twenty twenty one in invent to p Yeah. Okay, yeah, before this,
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  before Elon Musk took over. Okay, so I'm guessing so now that
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  Musk is taken over, he's basically just pulling the lid off of all this
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  and throwing Uh yeah, I guess so. I mean, and this might
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  be small potatoes for him. He might not have any interest in that.
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  Yeah, it probably is. But I think like that there's a well there's
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  I'm sure there's lots of things going on behind that was going on behind the
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  scenes over at the X platform of the art is formally known as Twitter platform.
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  By the way, where it tis the season Mary Xmas for those of
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  you who are on X. I think I think we're gonna call our Christmas
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  stream the Xmas stream, because I think it would be a good idea to
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  use x spaces and like have people call in and stuff or join and but
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  we'll have to keep it under control because the last time I was in a
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  space it was kind of insane. You were just spelling at each other.
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  So oh yeah, is that what it just descended into when I left?
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  I mean, I mean, I admittedly I kind of participated, but like
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  a little bit. But but but there is a way to like, you
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  have to you have to be excuse me, you have to be pretty a
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  pretty decent moderator, and you mute people when they start talking over others,
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  and you give people space, and then it works out. I think it
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  works out. So as long as people are behaving like adults. Well I
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  imagine if you do do a Christmas space, you're gonna have to deal with
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  those uh, those people chomping at the bit as it were. You know.
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  The funny thing is is I was actually considering having a debate with him
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  until he called me chicken. I'm like, yeah, no, you're not
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  worth it. Yeah. I was actually like, okay, well, just
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  you know, give me a bit of a frame, your framework of where
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  you're coming from he refused. He started to refuse to answer questions and then
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  called me a chicken. I'm like, yeah, you know, you're reminds
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  me of do you remember that Manhood University? Yeah, the Manhood University.
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  I don't know what this could be. The cowards really want to, like,
• 25:11
  I know what you're trying to do. You want to like you want
• 25:15
  to raise your platform because you don't really want to talk about this stuff.
• 25:18
  Like no, I'd have him, I'd have him on. But I'm kind
• 25:22
  of like, yeah, he can. You got more patience than I do.
• 25:26
  You got more patience than I do. Okay, let's let's listen,
• 25:32
  all right, listen to more. So she did mention she said, I
• 25:37
  know it exists on Facebook, Instagram, being YouTube, Google Book, usually
• 25:40
  not around misogyny based violence. So and then I think she's gonna say so,
• 25:45
  I know of case studies more focused on white supremacy, more focused on
• 25:51
  white supremacy, QAnon and Islamistic extremism. With that in mind, knowing this
• 25:56
  target audience, and again, I know a lot about this community. We
• 26:00
  work with a lot of researchers. This is not a very cohesive community.
• 26:06
  It's not like joining an official terrorist organization with a brand, it can be
• 26:10
  quite diverse, and the manisphere, some of the terms you mentioned are kind
• 26:14
  of maybe less insull or more the broader manisphere. And I wanted to know
• 26:18
  a little bit about still the fact you are targeting a quite vulnerable and often
• 26:23
  insulated audience. One is, what were the safety procedures or ethical concerns that
• 26:29
  you raised internally by trying to target what is potentially a dangerous audience to other
• 26:34
  community groups or to yourselves, and just any of that consideration. And then
• 26:40
  also when you think of other platforms, where did you think you might want
• 26:44
  to spread this sort of initiative beyond Twitter? All right, let me see.
• 26:51
  Good, God, we're looking at the I know what. Like she
• 26:56
  was in front of a mirror or that morning and said, I'm going out
• 27:02
  with this look. I'm gonna have my hair in a bud to our turtle
• 27:04
  exwater and these horn riomed glasses. It's it's not the look. This is
• 27:10
  all on purpose, I know, I know, And it's not talking about
• 27:15
  it. It's not the look I'm talking about. I'm talking about the satisfaction
• 27:18
  and control, the satisfaction in being this controlling and silencing people mm hmm.
• 27:27
  This is this is self righteous satisfaction in taking away the human rights of others.
• 27:33
  This is evil. Yeah, she may not, I don't know.
• 27:37
  Maybe there's a kernel inside her that is that is good. But right now,
• 27:41
  what she's doing is contemptible and evil, and she's doing it because she
• 27:47
  believes she can't be wrong. Either. She can't be wrong because she is
• 27:52
  getting money from this or some kind of kickback, some kind of emotional kickback,
• 27:57
  but she she can't be wrong. And again, this is all all
• 28:03
  of these, all of these initiatives are based on a premise that has like
• 28:11
  they they will not say how you can falsify it. I got into this.
• 28:15
  I've been in this argument with Alex Psyke again of all people, and
• 28:18
  Michael Flood. So there's been an interesting interesting Yeah, it's recent, Like
• 28:23
  you can look back in my Twitter timeline, it's been recent. They both
• 28:30
  they both came at me, you know, because Alex Pyke said, because
• 28:34
  I had this Twitter challenge that if if feminists send me something, that they're
• 28:44
  basing the idea of women being victims because they're women, not just that women
• 28:48
  can be victims because they're humans and humans are are frail creatures, but victims
• 28:55
  because they're women. There's a difference there. One is a recognition of reality,
• 29:00
  the other is is hanging your identity on that on something on on a
• 29:06
  expectation of something. Right, If feminists send me a piece of data that
• 29:12
  they support the assertion that women are victims on I can find a study that
• 29:17
  counters it. So it's just a Twitter challenge. And of course Alex psych
• 29:22
  is all over that and say that's not science. It has to be the
• 29:23
  preponderance of the evidence. Harpadurp. Well, first of all, it's a
• 29:26
  Twitter challenge, Like, I can't I can't explain in a Twitter challenge that's
• 29:30
  going to be paid attention to. Oh yes, it has to be peer
• 29:33
  reviewed. The methodology has to be sound, et cetera, et cetera,
• 29:37
  et cetera. You know, that's that's a bit much, but we can
• 29:40
  get into that nuance in the discussion. But anyway, he said that this
• 29:45
  other feminist comes on and starts asking me, well, well, what do
• 29:51
  you mean by what what conjecture? Like I'm like, I say, how
• 29:55
  do you falsify feminist conjecture? And he responds with or she with, well,
• 30:00
  which conjecture and then I respond with and that is part of the problem.
• 30:06
  Yeah, I know, are you criticizing There's so many put forth a
• 30:15
  hypothesis like this is what's astounding about this gigantic cancer in academia. Feminists don't
• 30:23
  even have a hypothesis, like how can it be scientific if there isn't even
• 30:30
  a hypothesis. They won't even say, this is what we believe. These
• 30:36
  are the fundamental tenets of our particular branch of science. There's no science that
• 30:40
  doesn't do that, that doesn't actually have fundamental beliefs that can be falsified.
• 30:45
  It may be difficult to falsify them, you know, it may be a
• 30:48
  wicked problem, but it's there. They put it out there. This is
• 30:51
  what we believe, this is this is this is the conject this is the
• 30:53
  theory. This is the conjectures that we're operating under. Not feminism. All
• 30:59
  I can do. My best thing that I could do is maybe approximate what
• 31:03
  they actually the conjecture they're actually working on, based on their behavior. I
• 31:07
  shouldn't have to do that. Feminism should have that out in front. This
• 31:11
  is what we are arguing, this is what needs to be falsified. This
• 31:18
  is where we have tried to falsify these things that we're arguing this is so
• 31:25
  it is so unreasonable, it's so cancerous that anybody believes this stuff is fact.
• 31:33
  I don't even know what the hell they're believing is fact, because nobody
• 31:36
  will stand up to it. Like one of the most infuriating arguments elements of
• 31:41
  this argument okay, is that if we look at what appears to be the
• 31:48
  main feminist conjecture, okay, men in power equals women oppressed, So there
• 31:55
  is a causal association between men being in power and women being oppressed. We
• 32:00
  had a feminist say when I said, how do you falsify it? I
• 32:02
  had her say, well, you prove that women are also in power.
• 32:07
  I'm like, no, you don't falsify X equals y by saying not X
• 32:12
  equals not. Why mm hmm, good excuse. Let's let us continue with
• 32:22
  all right, all right, let's play some more of this. It's okay,
• 32:24
  all right, So she is they're going to respond to this in the
• 32:29
  context, of course, are discussing the in cell community at this stage of
• 32:32
  the video, because this is like what they're afraid of. That's why she's
• 32:36
  she talked about a broader manisphere. So so for questions around what we did
• 32:46
  to protect ourselves in other community groups, if you explore the website, you'll
• 32:52
  see that we were very intentional in making sure that all of the content was
• 32:55
  very positive, engagement focused. We never tried to label or ostracize anyone that
• 33:01
  we were targeting. So the idea is that they do not even know necessarily
• 33:07
  they're being targeted. Secondly, the groups that we are targeting, it is
• 33:12
  a preventative strategy, So we are not necessarily attempting to target groups that have
• 33:17
  already identified and are deep within the menosphere, but rather individuals that are grazing
• 33:22
  past it on the internet and might get cooked into it and might go down
• 33:28
  that path. So so so their tactic is not necessarily go after or try
• 33:35
  to redirect people like us that have been you know, involved, but rather
• 33:39
  any like new people that might be like wandering too close to the content.
• 33:46
  So the kind of mainstream I guess i'll call it mainstream, like the mainstream
• 33:51
  stuff that is tangentially talking about men's issues. If it is. If it
• 33:57
  is, if they decide that in any way lead to the manisphere, then
• 34:01
  they're gonna redirect people who find it to them, see what I'm saying.
• 34:05
  So like Chris Williamson is safe because Chris Williamson tows the feminist line. Sorry,
• 34:09
  guys, It's true he does. He may like he may sort of
• 34:13
  like you know, flirt with the being kind of you know, feminist critical,
• 34:19
  but he really ultimately lands in a safe place so people can watch his
• 34:24
  content. And even then he might like you know, he might have they
• 34:30
  might be using this system to direct some of his followers away from you know
• 34:34
  where that might lead because someone who watches Chris Williamson may later watch you know,
• 34:40
  Lauri Penny, not Lori Penny, what's the name of the the woman
• 34:45
  who's been making a lot of content that was like fighting as a sexual revolution
• 34:49
  and it was she was a former feminist. I don't know. She probably
• 34:52
  still is a feminist really, and she was on Chris Williamson and but she's
• 34:59
  also been on the load to see so you know, they might be like,
• 35:00
  oh well, even though loadus theaters are also like there's a lot of
• 35:04
  bluepill shit on there, but you know, Carl's there and what's his name
• 35:10
  has been on there before Phillip Tanser and Philip Tanser is an MRA. So
• 35:16
  it's all about like how many degrees of separation? Right? And so I
• 35:21
  think that if you are Lotus theaters, Chris Williamson, basically anybody who you
• 35:30
  would like who actually kind of annoys me because they don't like go far enough,
• 35:35
  those people are the people who watch them are the ones that are going
• 35:38
  to be redirected. And I also think because like they listed some of the
• 35:43
  groups, right, So she said, let me see what was it,
• 35:46
  q and on. I don't even know what, Like what even is that?
• 35:51
  Like, uh yeah, q Andon and like Islamic terrorists, ISLAMI islam
• 36:00
  Is extremism, QAnon and white supremacy and like it. You know, so
• 36:07
  you can see that they're they're they're they're they're operating with a very very large
• 36:10
  net. And uh this is you know, the way that they decide like
• 36:16
  who are the people that you know, we have to target? And so
• 36:20
  this is like, uh it's important to note because you might say I've never
• 36:24
  spoken on QAnon. I've you know, but they don't care, like it's
• 36:30
  all the same to them. It's basically like against what they think. I
• 36:31
  don't even really think QAnon is anything particularly it's not like really like hardly defined,
• 36:40
  you know, like like where there's like membership and people and they have
• 36:44
  like a list, a manifesto. I think they're just people operating in a
• 36:47
  space that gets like lumped in kind of like what we do. So anyway,
• 36:52
  that was like the first instance of misogyny there. You want to you
• 36:59
  want to hear more what this guy says? Yeah, sure, So it's
• 37:04
  really it's really about the prevention aspect of it. And was there another question
• 37:10
  on this just what your next platform of choice might be one or two of
• 37:15
  those there aspect of misogyny scalability is what we're actually really excited about for this
• 37:20
  project because building these databases and if we can demonstrate the native experience on Twitter
• 37:25
  with a partnership with Twitter. Of course we were able to demonstrate some success
• 37:30
  with the ad campaign recreating it, but if we can demonstrate that success,
• 37:35
  then we can take this to really every other platform, and we can also
• 37:39
  actually build databases for other extremist groups. We could build one for the manosphere.
• 37:47
  More broadly, you can really take this and redirect our energies to other
• 37:54
  hate groups once you already have that framework established. And of course they get
• 38:01
  to decide what constitutes a hate group. And this is like, you know,
• 38:07
  what I would think is of some concern. So do you want to
• 38:15
  go to the next instance of misogyny or do you want to search Richard?
• 38:20
  I'm curious why. I'm curious why my definition of misogyny can never be applied,
• 38:25
  which is, yeah, which is to deny women's full humanity by not
• 38:30
  recognizing the consequences of their actions. You know, like the reason why we
• 38:35
  have free will is because of sin, right, mm hmmm, because we
• 38:38
  can make negative choices. If you don't recognize that women can make negative choices,
• 38:44
  you literally do not recognize them as people. Why is that not seen
• 38:47
  as misogyny? I mean, really, we have an entire frickin' political movement
• 38:57
  that's main thrust is to deny the reality that women are people by denying them
• 39:04
  the negative consequences of their actions, meaning they don't have free will. What
• 39:08
  doesn't have free will things that aren't human, right is? This sounds to
• 39:15
  me like the real misogyny, But of course we can't talk about that.
• 39:19
  We have to be on a freaking homeland security watch list because I say things
• 39:24
  like that, and then these women who are getting freakin' grants from men with
• 39:31
  guns. Men with guns say that I'm the one doing a patriarchal bargain.
• 39:39
  Really, geez, I wish I could have done that patriarchal bargain when I
• 39:45
  was blocked from the US for five or a band from the US for five
• 39:51
  years for not apparently not having a visa I couldn't have had before I applied
• 39:55
  at the border for the visa. Okay, Like, seriously, where's the
• 40:00
  patriarchal bargain benefiting me? Right, because it looks like you guys are really
• 40:06
  getting the institutional support to silence everyone else. And again, like if I
• 40:12
  were to break it down right down to brass tacks, brass tacks. Yes,
• 40:15
  I care about men, but I'm also deeply concerned about promoting this attitude
• 40:21
  that women aren't human. Like, I'm deeply concerned that Pete, there is
• 40:27
  an gigantic government funded apparatus that refuses to recognize the negative consequences of women's actions,
• 40:35
  which means they don't have free will, which means they are not functionally
• 40:37
  people. That concerns me. I think that that attitude may have some knockdown
• 40:46
  effects that are negative for women. But you know, maybe I'm just talking
• 40:51
  out my ass and I'm a terrorist. Good lord, Okay, let's keep
• 40:55
  it. Okay, you want me to play more of this? Is it?
• 41:00
  There are more misogical? Well this section, let me see if I
• 41:05
  can find something a little bit better. In the section, we looked at
• 41:09
  different individuals who were part of the in cell movement. Maybe I can start
• 41:14
  from there. This is fifty seven forty four, so it's like right,
• 41:20
  it's not much further. It's like right here, I'll pay it so that
• 41:24
  you guys have looked at moderation diversion. That just curious about, you know,
• 41:29
  alternative voices that encounter. Yeah, definitely. In our research section,
• 41:36
  we looked at different individuals who were part of the inn cell movement. However,
• 41:42
  that data is pretty sparse at the moment. There's not a lot of
• 41:46
  collected data regarding people who have walked away from in cell movements specifically, so
• 41:52
  moving forward, there is we do want to include, particularly people who were
• 42:00
  within the movement and have exited. That would be very very helpful perspectives that
• 42:06
  we would be able to hopefully utilize to strengthen our messaging and our platform in
• 42:12
  general. So they want to talk with guys who left what they're calling the
• 42:20
  in cell movement. Of course the in cell is in cells are not a
• 42:23
  movement. They are a situation that men, some men find themselves in and
• 42:31
  they don't want to be That's the whole in part of the word in cell.
• 42:38
  I do think that there are people probably in in cell spaces that,
• 42:44
  like you know, those saying goes misery loves company. Maybe they don't want
• 42:47
  these guys to like succeed, Maybe they want like crabs in a bucket.
• 42:52
  But I think overall, I think that there's a couple of reasons why these
• 42:58
  guys probably aren't finding a lot of success with finding in cells that have left
• 43:02
  the in cell movement as they describe it. Because if you're if you're a
• 43:07
  man, you're like having a dry Hey Mitch, if you're having a dry
• 43:10
  spell, okay, and you go like a couple of years and you're not
• 43:15
  seeing anyone, you might be on the in cell forums. You might be
• 43:16
  like, you know, complaining or I don't know, expressing your frustration.
• 43:23
  But maybe you're also like trying to do something to like, you know,
• 43:27
  increase your sexual market value or your datability or whatever. And you're working on
• 43:32
  that, and if you succeed, then you just leave the forums like you're
• 43:37
  like, well, I don't need these guys anymore because I'm I found someone
• 43:39
  or whatever it is. So why would those guys like go to a like
• 43:45
  people like this that are basically just going to use them to propagandize the lonely
• 43:51
  men that are still there? Like what, I don't think these people really
• 43:55
  understand what and I'm gonna say, I mean, like a real insel,
• 44:01
  not a predator, not somebody who's you know, trying to radicalize people or
• 44:06
  whatever. I mean, like a guy who you know is lonely. And
• 44:08
  a lot of these guys they have disabilities, they have other you know,
• 44:14
  like mental health issues, physical issues whatever, right, So that and they're
• 44:21
  kind of I mean, you know, they're kind of in a bad spot.
• 44:24
  So I think that And the thing too about in cells, I think
• 44:29
  if they're on those forums, they probably know about how like well, I
• 44:37
  mean, for lack of a better word, how evil these people are.
• 44:39
  Like groups like this why, they probably don't trust the government, They probably
• 44:44
  don't trust NGOs, they probably don't trust big tech. They definitely don't trust
• 44:50
  academics and feminists and the media, because like they're seeing all of this,
• 44:53
  right, So when these guys say, whoa, you know, it'd be
• 44:55
  great if we had some in cells that we could you know, essentially use
• 45:00
  to like help help us with this, It's like, yeah, but most
• 45:02
  of them don't want to talk to you, you know. I mean that's
• 45:07
  what I think anyway, Okay, all right, So I got what was
• 45:13
  that? I want to say something people on Twitter right now? Yes,
• 45:17
  yes, all right, stop it, all right? I got another super
• 45:21
  chow Chow Chow from Richard because it's five bucks and says how many degrees of
• 45:25
  separation is there between this particular group and the old Guard Communist secret police searching
• 45:30
  for counter revolutionary people or anti communists? Again? Is there a gulag facility
• 45:35
  in their plans too? It's a good question. I wouldn't ask them directly,
• 45:38
  because then, how is this different than any zealots throughout history you've been
• 45:44
  searching out evidence of heresy like not, It's not particularly different because it's motivated
• 45:51
  by exactly the same desire for control, you know, And we're just in
• 45:55
  another iteration of that, because we apparently haven't learned from the hundred years War,
• 46:01
  or the Spanish Inquisition or the Nazis or everything else. The what what
• 46:08
  the the goolags, you know, the KGB. We haven't learned from all
• 46:13
  of that. We're just gonna do it again and again. Well, no,
• 46:16
  these people are sure that they're not like that at all, and that
• 46:20
  what they're doing is good because they're good people, because they agree. And
• 46:25
  how why is it not misogyny when you take away women's right to be seen
• 46:31
  as a person by taking away the negative consequences of their actions. And how
• 46:38
  can you tell me that that doesn't have a negative effect on women? I
• 46:43
  mean, like, I know that all the issues that's surrounding how men are
• 46:45
  treated are a big problem, and I know they don't care. So that's
• 46:50
  what I'm going to ask, Like, how do you know that this isn't
• 46:53
  the worst thing that women face? Yep, okay, question All right,
• 47:01
  I'm gonna go the next instance of misogyny. Then let's see what the next
• 47:05
  one is where it comes up? Boo boo, boo boo. Wait,
• 47:13
  where's two? Do I did I miss it? I'm looking at hold on
• 47:19
  this one? Where is that dangerous massaging extremism? Oh? Here we go.
• 47:25
  The misogyny to violent extremism pipeline. Yeah, let's do it. Oh,
• 47:31
  it's it's in the it's in the title. I think thirty six forty
• 47:35
  Let me look here, So I kind of it kind of skipped one.
• 47:38
  That's okay, that's my fault. Probably stop your videos and microphones as we
• 47:47
  queue up the video from our next team from the Middlebury Institute of in Yeah,
• 47:52
  they make videos and everything. These people are trying to get that A.
• 47:54
  Guys trying to get an A, and the only way to get an
• 47:58
  A is essentially police and Uh. The misogyny to violent extra in combination with
• 48:05
  dangerous algorithms, have led to an alarming increase and targeted violence and self harm.
• 48:12
  In cell ideology, which stands for involuntary celibate is a mentality for what
• 48:21
  it's leading to self harm among who the insuels. Maybe is that is she
• 48:28
  saying that in cell ideology is leading to self harm among insuels. I I
• 48:35
  don't know that's a good question. I don't I don't think I've watched this
• 48:37
  part already, and I don't think they actually answer that. So it could
• 48:40
  it could in fact be sympathy for the in cells themselves, but that could
• 48:45
  be a kind of concert rolling too, so mm hmm, I don't know.
• 48:52
  All right, let's play some more self deprecation and at its worst encourages
• 48:58
  violence to I'll read that sentence again. INSID ideology, which stands for involuntary
• 49:05
  celibate, is a mentality focused on sexist beliefs, self deprecation, and at
• 49:10
  its worst encourages violence. Okay, all right, So first of all,
• 49:20
  I would imagine, yeah, you don't in self hatred and self deprecation,
• 49:30
  no self harming and self deprecation. So your problem is that the in cells
• 49:35
  have a poor sense of self for poor poor self esteem. Do you think
• 49:39
  this is helping Do you think being targeted by Homeland Security is going to help
• 49:45
  them with that? Yeah? Really? Yeah? Okay, okay. Do
• 49:52
  you think that telling in cells that the reason why they don't have a sexual
• 49:59
  partner, which is scident everybody says that a man needs to be whole human
• 50:02
  being, like this is a constant refrain in society that men aren't really acceptable
• 50:08
  without a sexual partner, right, m you think that telling in cells that
• 50:15
  they don't have sexual partners because of some flaw in their personality is going to
• 50:25
  improve their self esteem. I mean, let's get away from you know,
• 50:31
  saying that they don't have sexual partners because of their looks. That actually is
• 50:37
  less insulting, less condemning, and less mean than saying, well, actually
• 50:44
  it's your personality, dear. Like, I mean, at one level,
• 50:49
  they can say, well, you know, if it's my looks, I
• 50:51
  just can't change that, but it's no fault of my own. But you're
• 50:54
  saying that you want to tell in cells their homelands is wants to tell in
• 51:00
  cells that the entire they are, all their problems rest on their personality,
• 51:08
  Okay, and that's going to improve their self esteem, as opposed to just
• 51:14
  acknowledging that we have constructed a system that now works against human mating. Like,
• 51:20
  let's just acknowledge that blaming women. I'm not blaming women. I'm just
• 51:27
  saying we have managed to construct a system that now works against human mating.
• 51:34
  Yeay, yes, the in cells are the victims of this. I would
• 51:39
  say that also the unmatched women who are selecting to be unmatched because of their
• 51:45
  standards and also believing the propaganda against men that men are terrible partners. Like,
• 51:52
  I mean, how often do we see an article describing how men are
• 51:57
  terrible in bed, they make terrible husbands, horrible fathers, anybody. Any
• 52:01
  woman who has partnered with a man is a sucker. They just men just
• 52:06
  take They never Everything men get involved with is cringe and terrible until women get
• 52:10
  involved with it. Yeah, you know, how much do we see this
• 52:15
  kind of negative campaign? I mean, that's just the that's not even this,
• 52:19
  that's not even touching the stuff that looks like Nazi propaganda except aim towards
• 52:23
  men, or segregationist propaganda, except aim to And I'm not freaking this isn't
• 52:29
  hyperbole. I can show you like I have. I did the video,
• 52:32
  which is all it is, is just a comparison of feminist rhetoric and Nazi
• 52:37
  propaganda. Segregation is propaganda, anti Irish propaganda. You know, just throughout
• 52:43
  history what we've directed of the at towards men who we consider the enemy of
• 52:47
  our society. It's the same, Like feminist propaganda is the same as that
• 52:52
  propaganda. And I'm not even talking about that, that's not even the the
• 52:55
  extreme end. This is just simply saying that men are useless and worthless,
• 53:01
  and you know, being in a relationship with one, why would a woman
• 53:06
  ever lower herself or be such a rube as to be taken advantage of by
• 53:09
  a man? Right? How much do we hear that? And we expect
• 53:15
  in cells to be able to overcome all of that. You know, what
• 53:20
  was actually happening is that in cells are internalizing the social message about men and
• 53:27
  how worthless they are in relationships. And you, you basically say this constantly,
• 53:31
  not you, but the individual. This individual is part of a movement
• 53:36
  that generally, what they have added to the world, to the thought sphere
• 53:40
  is either wartime propaganda and segregation or extremely negative genocidal propaganda against men. I'm
• 53:50
  not saying that it's going to result in a genocide, but it's pretty nasty
• 53:52
  stuff. They've either added that, or they've added the discourse that men are
• 53:57
  worthless in relationships. Okay, they're looking at an entire generation of men,
• 54:02
  of young men who have no prospects. Not just because there's no economy,
• 54:07
  there's no upward mobility in the economy anymore, which you think the commis would
• 54:12
  be interested in hearing, but apparently not, but also because they've been subject
• 54:16
  to a campaign by powers far greater than them saying that they are worthless in
• 54:22
  relationships, and those men are like, oh, hey, I think we're
• 54:27
  worthless in relationships, Joe, you think you know what I heard on the
• 54:32
  news yesterday, that we're worthless in relationships? Ted? And then they got
• 54:37
  the Homeland Security saying, oh my god, Ted and Joe, they's terrorists.
• 54:42
  Yep, we have to redirect them something else. I know, those
• 54:46
  of you who cannot see I am doing the Jackie Chan meme. Good lord,
• 54:58
  yeah, you know. And it's like, so they're saying what you
• 55:00
  have been telling them. They've internalized what feminists have said. And it is
• 55:05
  feminists that promote most of this. At least traditional women will say that men
• 55:08
  are useful for something, but it's the feminist whore like, yeah, no,
• 55:12
  they're worthless and in relationships entirely right. And then we have a group
• 55:16
  a generation of young men who internalized it, repeated it, and now they're
• 55:20
  terrorists. Good grief. And how is a problem? How is what I
• 55:27
  think? How am I is what I'm saying anything other than common sense?
• 55:34
  Mm hmm, Like, why is what I'm saying worthy of inclusion on a
• 55:38
  watch list? All I'm telling you is the result of a reasonable series of
• 55:45
  logical inferences. If you tell young men that they're worthless in relationships, many
• 55:50
  of them will internalize that and say that men are worthless in relationships unless they
• 55:55
  have some other factor that elevates them above the mass of worthlessness, like being
• 56:00
  really good looking, or in your case, you don't want the inceels to
• 56:05
  think it's good looks, even though that's patently true. You want them to
• 56:08
  think the problem is with their personality. Well, not everybody has a scintilling,
• 56:14
  scintillating personality that can rivet everyone in a room, that can cold open
• 56:19
  on a woman with such a delightful joke that she decides she right then and
• 56:23
  there she wants to have your children. Not everybody is, you know,
• 56:27
  Brian, Okay, Okay, maybe I shouldn't have said that. Ah,
• 56:36
  that's okay, all right. I got another super chow from Richard Beer and
• 56:40
  he says, for five dollars, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. Thank you
• 56:47
  for that. It's a really great video actually that says that the Inquisition was
• 56:52
  good. But I would, I would if you have the strength. It's
• 56:55
  I think it's a lot better than what we're dealing with. Now. That's
• 56:58
  why I would at least say that. But anyway, let's let's keep going,
• 57:02
  all right, let's play more of this, And then I got my
• 57:06
  third clip of the where the misogyny was at. Platforms have two choices when
• 57:10
  it comes to dealing with malicious content. Remove or keep. Oh we went.
• 57:15
  I think we are proposing a third choice that addresses the threat while safeguarding
• 57:21
  free speech. With diverting hate. We provide alternative paths to hateful rabbit holes.
• 57:29
  Rather than simply deleting the content and fueling the fury of bad actors,
• 57:34
  we choose to present the option to view the content or to explore healthier options.
• 57:39
  We do this through thoughtful user design. I don't think this is actually
• 57:45
  you don't think it's ethical. No implemented? Was this actually implement you know
• 57:51
  what? I was proposed this twenty twenty one? I think so. I
• 57:55
  don't think it is as much so we got seven hundre ndred thousand dollars.
• 58:00
  I don't think this is over implemented. As long as I can't, it
• 58:04
  doesn't matter. They got the money. We probably yeah, that's probably like
• 58:10
  this is okay, keep going, all right? And a social platform like
• 58:15
  Twitter, we have also built a resource hub diverting hate dot Org. We
• 58:21
  utilize effective digital marketing to intersect hateful narratives and provide outlets and tools to build
• 58:28
  resiliency. Our original database and network analysis allow us to effectively meet our audience
• 58:35
  where they are by using identified key terms, profiles, locations, and languages.
• 58:42
  I wonder if they still are doing that because I have, you know,
• 58:46
  I got maybe not with like they may because the thing is they could
• 58:50
  do this in the decentralized way. I suppose, yeah, they can do
• 58:53
  it without necessarily the consent of Twitter. Twitter. So they but that's the
• 58:59
  thing, Like I see a lot of bots that are or individuals that come
• 59:04
  into my mentions and start yapping about this crap. Although honestly, the most
• 59:07
  I see are the like the only fans bots? Have you seen those?
• 59:10
  Ridiculous? But the you know, like suddenly a woman likes one of my
• 59:16
  tweets. I'm like, I'm not saying it's impossible. There are a few,
• 59:21
  but generally I know who they are because I can count them on like
• 59:23
  one hand in both feet. But then then you get like this really attractive
• 59:28
  woman who's like starts liking, and it's what it is, is the the
• 59:31
  the Only Fans bots seem to target what they think is red pill content because
• 59:38
  they're trying to get the men who are I guess dissatisfied to go to OnlyFans
• 59:45
  and drop some wads of cash with them essentially. So, but that's what
• 59:51
  I've noticed, and I've noticed that there's But the thing is, you never
• 59:54
  know, because the feminism is an ideology has a lot of people who adhere
• 1:00:00
  to it. So it just could be somebody who's obsessive, you know,
• 1:00:05
  on Twitter, who knows, or it could be astro turfed homeland security bots
• 1:00:15
  that could also be that. Honestly, Like a long time a while ago
• 1:00:21
  on YouTube, I remember I had this epic thread, this epic comment thread
• 1:00:28
  where I went round and round and round and round with this one feminist and
• 1:00:37
  I and somehow in the middle, like like in the middle, and I
• 1:00:40
  was going round and round around because I'm a stubborn artist. Somehow in the
• 1:00:45
  middle. It was almost like a shift turned over because they they didn't just
• 1:00:51
  refuse to acknowledge what I was saying. They seem to forget the entirety of
• 1:00:59
  the calm that had happened up to that point. And I don't mean forget,
• 1:01:02
  as in, oh, they forgot all the arguments, I mean literally
• 1:01:07
  forget, and it was like a new person had popped into that account.
• 1:01:12
  And now I'm really wondering if they've actually been doing that, They've actually been
• 1:01:17
  putting this to people who get these gigantic grants and just sit there and divert
• 1:01:22
  cont so called divert attention by simply making these bad faith arguments, these bad
• 1:01:29
  faith circular arguments. You know, yeah, what I'm saying, because there's
• 1:01:35
  still really weird behavior. Well, the thing that it basically just says,
• 1:01:38
  you know, like what we've been saying, the this is not about the
• 1:01:43
  thing. This is about like, you know, either making money, gain
• 1:01:47
  more power, keeping your ideology relevant, or you know, the revolution if
• 1:01:53
  you're like a real like a real one. But that's it. Like they
• 1:01:58
  don't care about women, They're not concerned with people's safety on the internet.
• 1:02:00
  Are you kidding me? Close your eyes, go to a different website.
• 1:02:06
  But uh, And the thing is they can just continue to get money.
• 1:02:08
  I mean, like, for all we know, the Department of Homeland Security
• 1:02:13
  knows that it's like just way to make money. And they don't carr either.
• 1:02:15
  They're lining their pockets too, because whenever the state takes tax, you
• 1:02:21
  know, you got to pay every every middleman, every person along the way
• 1:02:24
  gets their cut until it lands wherever it lands. So if if the you
• 1:02:30
  know, if these people got seven hundred grand, how much money did all
• 1:02:34
  of the intermediaries get for essentially getting that money and giving it to these people?
• 1:02:40
  It's it's and who's gonna call them out? Who's going to challenge that?
• 1:02:45
  Like, do you hate women? Don't you want them to be safe
• 1:02:47
  on the internet. Don't you have daughters? You know? It's like it's,
• 1:02:52
  well, that's where you're want to go. I mean, making them
• 1:02:54
  safe from this massive hammer of an ideology that has actually had an effect on
• 1:03:02
  people's perception of women's agency. And what I mean by agency is that when
• 1:03:07
  a woman makes a choice, it matters, not that she has infinite choices.
• 1:03:13
  Okay, so the differences in a lot of cases, I think there's
• 1:03:15
  a lot of people who think agency is having your cake and eating it too.
• 1:03:21
  Yeah, whereas agency is having your cake and recognizing or sorry, eating
• 1:03:25
  your cake and recognizing you're not going to have it, and telling someone if
• 1:03:30
  you eat your cake, you're not going to have it later on. Right,
• 1:03:35
  It's as simple as that. So there's these different ways of looking at
• 1:03:37
  agency. One is the ability to make as many choices or having a complete
• 1:03:43
  spectrum of choices without having to deal with any of the consequences of any of
• 1:03:46
  those choices, so that you have as many choices as possible, or those
• 1:03:52
  choices actually mean something. Right, we have an entire, uh, an
• 1:04:01
  entire philosophical but an ideological movement that's about removing the consequences of the perception of
• 1:04:09
  the consequences of women's choices, which again is dehumanizing, it's depersoning women.
• 1:04:15
  It's taking away the perception of their freedom, like their their free will,
• 1:04:18
  which is depersoning them in the Western tradition. We have this movement and nobody's
• 1:04:25
  like, oh wait, maybe that has a negative effect. And it has
• 1:04:28
  had an effect, and the effect is that people don't perceive women's actions as
• 1:04:33
  being meaningful. That's why nobody was watch like the look at the marvels.
• 1:04:40
  Okay, you know what, I'd rather not Okay, but I'm just gonna
• 1:04:45
  not not at the marble. Literally enjoy this thing and then tell me what
• 1:04:50
  you think. Okay. The reason why the marvels failed according to the numbers.
• 1:04:57
  Isn't because men didn't go, It's because women didn't go. Nobody wants
• 1:05:01
  to watch it because nobody, like you, don't present men women's choices is
• 1:05:08
  meaningful, which is a death to a heroic character. Nobody's gonna watch a
• 1:05:14
  heroic character if their choices are meaningless. That takes away their heroism, right,
• 1:05:19
  And this is what this meant. This was what this particular ideology is
• 1:05:24
  done to women. And you can see it in people's attitudes. They now
• 1:05:28
  think that women's choices are meaningless, and they don't you know, the more
• 1:05:32
  meaningless you make women's choices, the less interesting they are as characters, and
• 1:05:38
  the less you genuinely believe in their ability to create any change in the world.
• 1:05:42
  Don't you think that matters like this? Like this, this is just
• 1:05:45
  we're just gonna do this without questioning it, and we're gonna do it generation
• 1:05:49
  after generation. And then when we earn the wages of that, and when
• 1:05:54
  we when we call it the Nordic paradox, when the obvious consequence of taking
• 1:05:59
  away the consequences to women's actions, you know the fact that women are less
• 1:06:04
  likely to go into stem and all of this other stuff and cultures that take
• 1:06:09
  away the consequences of their actions. Well, yeah, like that, that's
• 1:06:13
  the Nordic paradox. And we ascribe that to uh, I don't know,
• 1:06:18
  we ascribe that to who knows. Well, how about we ascribe it to
• 1:06:21
  the fact that the Nordic system works within a context that renders women's choices meaningless,
• 1:06:30
  in infantile, impotent, inferior, pointless, okay, and without those
• 1:06:41
  consequences, their lives are actually rather pointless. Like I mean literally, there
• 1:06:47
  is an entire there is an entire industry devoted simply to giving people consequences to
• 1:06:59
  their actions. You go into a game world and your actions have massive consequences
• 1:07:04
  within that game world, unless you're in a walking simulator, which but which
• 1:07:09
  I have heard are not fun. But anyway, so you have walking simulators,
• 1:07:14
  and you have games that are apparently good, which offer big consequences to
• 1:07:17
  the gamers' actions. So giving people's actions consequences has a monetary benefit, Like
• 1:07:28
  you, people will pay you for that, and we're just like randomly taking
• 1:07:31
  it away from women. We're just like, yeah, in the real world,
• 1:07:34
  women's actions have no consequences. Those consequences are meaningless. They're impotent,
• 1:07:39
  worthless, and lesser than men. That's what we believe because we're feminists,
• 1:07:44
  right, Yeah, we believe that empowering women is about making their consequence,
• 1:07:47
  the consequences of their actions meaningless. But yet we have an entire, very
• 1:07:54
  very lucrative, a very very lucrative industry based on granting consequences to people's actions
• 1:08:01
  and nothing else. Really, I mean, I know there's more to get.
• 1:08:04
  They are trying to make all video games and a walkinge simulators. Now,
• 1:08:09
  yeah, do you understand why now? Because I do of course.
• 1:08:12
  Yeah, okay, no, I'm just as an assign since as you brought
• 1:08:15
  up gaming. It's funny and kind of sad. But you know, we
• 1:08:20
  had David Jaffe on our show like twice, at least twice David Jaffe because
• 1:08:25
  you guys don't know. He was a director behind God of War and Twisted
• 1:08:30
  Metal, and he used to work at the companies I think it was called
• 1:08:35
  well, it doesn't matter, I can't remember now, but they you know,
• 1:08:38
  he was the guy behind that, and then he appeared on our show
• 1:08:42
  a couple of times. We were talking about like how the industry was changing
• 1:08:45
  and I even I think I talked to him a little bit about the new
• 1:08:48
  God of War reboot and he was like, well, you know, they
• 1:08:51
  changed it, but it's okay. I guess. Well, recently he came
• 1:08:57
  out and put out another video and he was like complaining about how they changed
• 1:09:00
  the character that he created and they got away from what he was like so
• 1:09:04
  so much that he was like, this is nothing like the guy that I
• 1:09:09
  made. And he was trying to figure out why, and I'm over here,
• 1:09:13
  like I told him that was gonna happen, dude, Like, if
• 1:09:15
  you have something that is a popular brand, whatever catapulted it into where it
• 1:09:23
  is. Because God of War is a game that he said this interview,
• 1:09:27
  I'll never forget it. Way back when it came out. He said,
• 1:09:29
  you know, it's a game that you want to play if you've been hard
• 1:09:32
  at work all day and you're tired and you're angry, and you just want
• 1:09:35
  to let off some steam. And so you play this game and you play
• 1:09:39
  this Greek warrior and you're killing all these monsters and all that, right,
• 1:09:43
  And he's like, you just want to blow off some steam. And I
• 1:09:45
  was like, yeah, that's the kind of And of course that franchise is
• 1:09:47
  huge because mostly boys played it. It was almost like there was something about
• 1:09:51
  that that was attractive, right, and then when they changed it, they
• 1:09:57
  made it all soft and it was like basically watching a movie on Fuld and
• 1:10:00
  there was all that all that stuff was taken out of it. And he
• 1:10:03
  was kind of forgiving, and I was like, I don't know, man,
• 1:10:06
  like I think it's getting far away from what you made. And and
• 1:10:11
  then the newest expansion came out and they basically they didn't just change it a
• 1:10:15
  lot. They kind of shit on what it was. There is this thing
• 1:10:18
  about like, you know, shitting on the past, and and he was
• 1:10:24
  like upset about it, and I was like, I told you so,
• 1:10:27
  I told you so. So anyway, just saying, you know, some
• 1:10:30
  people don't want to notice the things that are happening right in front of them,
• 1:10:33
  even if it's slow. But you really have to pay attention because none
• 1:10:36
  of this is an accident. I mean, all this video tells me as
• 1:10:41
  we're going through it is that there were constantly getting opt in one way or
• 1:10:46
  another. It's constant. And it just so happened that this one because it
• 1:10:50
  was probably done through a college and they put the video out there. It
• 1:10:55
  probably that this one was, you know, kind of easy. Yeah,
• 1:10:59
  we figured they just they just got caught with their pants down. But what
• 1:11:02
  I was going to matter, They know that most people aren't really gonna dig
• 1:11:08
  into this, they're not gonna care, so they can tell they got for
• 1:11:11
  breadth b x eh b x on X. But what I was gonna say
• 1:11:15
  is, we now have an industry that makes money off of giving people consequences
• 1:11:20
  to their actions. Yeah, so this is something that is worth money.
• 1:11:26
  And now I'll think about it. Feminism takes away consequences to women's actions,
• 1:11:30
  and we have an industry that all is all about giving consequences to actions.
• 1:11:35
  What is the monetary cost of feminism to the average woman. I know it's
• 1:11:43
  a bit of a stretch, not just a monetary cost, but yeah,
• 1:11:45
  oh no, But I'm just saying, like, since nobody else gives a
• 1:11:48
  crap, how much does whip feminism cost women in terms of the consequences of
• 1:11:53
  their actions? Which, incidentally, like, people are drawn to games because
• 1:11:58
  they give life meaning. Honestly, that's why they're drawn to fiction. They're
• 1:12:00
  drawn to any medium of entertainment or creative creativity. But in particular games give
• 1:12:08
  people's lives, meaning it gives their time, meaning feminism is taking that away
• 1:12:13
  from women. Like there is nothing more degrading to women than feminism. And
• 1:12:20
  I had this feminist come at me, say, you give us your respect,
• 1:12:26
  you owe us, you owe us everything is a woman. I'm like,
• 1:12:30
  no, feminism, give me a thank you. Feminism owes women everything.
• 1:12:39
  It owes women all of its clout, It owes women all of its
• 1:12:43
  ill gotten money, which then doesn't go back to helping women who are victims
• 1:12:46
  anything. It ows women all of its influence, you know, it owes
• 1:12:53
  women all of the ears that it's turned throughout its entire history. Feminism will
• 1:12:59
  owes women everything, and women owe feminism nothing, not a thing men do,
• 1:13:05
  though they owe them their money. So okay, no, no,
• 1:13:10
  but but you see that The thing is that, Brian, they try to
• 1:13:14
  make women owe feminism too. I know, I know. In fact,
• 1:13:16
  they seem to say, you have to be grateful for their existence. Yeah,
• 1:13:20
  they seem to think they own women in a way that men aren't.
• 1:13:26
  Like that. That's one of the things that's really obnoxious about the Sisterhood quote
• 1:13:30
  unquote, because I don't even think they really represent that is that they think
• 1:13:34
  they own you, you know, and when you say no, you don't
• 1:13:39
  own me, they act like monsters. They act like gorgans. Mm hmm,
• 1:13:46
  you got a super chow. I got two of them, actually cool.
• 1:13:50
  Ash throun Bot gives us five dollars and says, I remember when Alison
• 1:13:55
  made the video Men act and women are acted upon and remains true and undefeated
• 1:14:00
  ari women's choices. When politics happen, suddenly women's votes disappear and all blame
• 1:14:05
  is on men. That's true. If if if if a man wins and
• 1:14:12
  that man was usually a man that wins, and that man goes on to
• 1:14:15
  do something that the feminists don't like, then it's men's faults, even though
• 1:14:17
  women are the majority of voters. Thank you for that, ash Thrun,
• 1:14:24
  appreciate it. And then we got another one from asht Run and he is
• 1:14:29
  asking, let me just give him a giggling because you gave twice, and
• 1:14:34
  he is asking transcript search word. Oh I see, I see he is
• 1:14:43
  organ transcript gamer game. So okay, So here's the thing. I Richard,
• 1:14:47
  you asked me to look up patriarchy. It's not in there. It's
• 1:14:51
  not there. I'm gonna it's Patriarchy's not in there, and that actually kind
• 1:14:56
  of like it makes sense to me because, like I said, they there
• 1:15:00
  is a there. I think that they're trying to rebrand, so they're trying
• 1:15:04
  to get away from the buzzwords. I mean, obviously they still use a
• 1:15:08
  lot of buzzwords because you kind of have to. But but some of the
• 1:15:11
  on the nose ones like patriarchy. Then said, they use misogyny and violent
• 1:15:15
  misogyny and radical misogyny. Those are basically patriarchy. It's the same thing,
• 1:15:20
  right, but they don't The word patriot does not show up? Then?
• 1:15:25
  Was another one that you asked me. I think somebody asked me to look
• 1:15:29
  up before. But okay, Patriarchy's not in there. Unfortunately, misogyny was
• 1:15:34
  and gamer Gate let me try that. I don't know, maybe it is,
• 1:15:38
  that would be interesting. No results for gamer Gate, what about just
• 1:15:43
  gamer Maybe they expelled it to words? No, no, no, no
• 1:15:46
  results for that. But you know it has a lot of entries. You
• 1:15:50
  know, it has a lot of entries. The word memes it's in there
• 1:15:56
  twenty times. Are you curious, what's what's the context for this gonna be?
• 1:16:02
  What do you think to finish misogyny? How many more misogynies we did?
• 1:16:05
  All there was three week that was okay, well, I guess we
• 1:16:10
  we somehow without me noticing, we finished the actual topic of the show.
• 1:16:14
  I guess that's it. No, no, no, no, let's look
• 1:16:16
  at memes. Let's let's look at it memes. We're gonna start with a
• 1:16:19
  look at memes. All right, they have to say about memes. Why
• 1:16:26
  is it mentioning memes? That's the that's the question. So let me see.
• 1:16:35
  I'll start from here. They're talking about the team from the University of
• 1:16:41
  South Carolina. This is five minutes in, so it's actually pretty early.
• 1:16:45
  Five minutes and forty four seconds. See, like right here, Carolina uses
• 1:16:51
  a novel approach to digital literacy through memes to target the online efforts of violent
• 1:16:57
  white supremacists. As we look for ways to harness the power of technology to
• 1:17:01
  empower and motivate individuals to prevent targeted violence and terrorism, these teams and all
• 1:17:08
  who participate in the ball competition show that through invent to Prevent, you are
• 1:17:13
  finding solutions to support your peers and community well facing a global pandemic and the
• 1:17:17
  uncertainty that remote collaboration brings. Okay, this is this is like during COVID
• 1:17:24
  So okay, so was there a meme there? Yeah? This is for
• 1:17:30
  men use a novel approach the digital literacy through memes to target the online efforts
• 1:17:35
  of violent white supremacy. Good lord, so there, And I mean they
• 1:17:40
  include in in that. I wish we had some of those memes we could
• 1:17:45
  use a laugh. This is like this kind of like really formal way of
• 1:17:51
  discussing memes is so this it's so these people right, like we're going to
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  use memes. My friend, does anyone have any They're gonna have like the
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  old, like the old, like bad luck, Brian, and like you
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  know the first memes I found these in the archives. We can we can
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  make some statements with them. What what's with the raccoon eyes? He's parting,
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  parting, partering, part part of that? Please help me? Partying,
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  partying, partering, loop party. I mean, I'm stuck in a
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  loop. I'm stuck in a verbal loop. Brian, I'm saying bartering.
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  It looks like she was partying partying hard. Yeah, it's at least as
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  hard as it was for me to say that. Yeah, do you want
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  to know how they're going to use memes next one. I am very interested
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  in early So okay, I'll just read a little bit of it and then
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  I'll just jump to that part. So somebody says, I think the presenter
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  I was particularly impressed with the work the teams have accomplished this semester. Howard
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  University's work on social connection to this and digital literacy are so needed right now,
• 1:19:16
  not only because of the threats that HBCUs and others have faced. Middlebury
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  in the Institute's work addressing in cells shows us that we can get help to
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  those who need it before violence happens. Early stage prevention is critical in this
• 1:19:30
  threatened environment. And now we're going to get into the memes. So this
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  starts at fine, No, no, no, it can't be that.
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  It's got to be it's got to be like right here, show me where
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  that is, Show us the memes, show show us, show us where
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  that is, Where is this? Where is this? Fourteen? Okay,
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  so it's kind of like over here. Oh okay, so that, Oh
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  my god, I saw Pepe. I saw Pepe. Yes, the alt
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  right like to use memes to spread their propaganda. What it does is give
• 1:20:06
  them pauseble deniability. If you coove a mount for being a white supremocist,
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  it's no, I just like these things are funny. How could you say
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  that moon Man? So the moon Man is a hate symbol? It says
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  moon Man is a meme derived from a character in nineteen eighties McDonald's restaurant commercials
• 1:20:25
  that was appropriated by white supremacists, especially from the alt right, who attach
• 1:20:30
  it to racist songs, language, and imagery. I think Moveman came out
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  in the nineties actually, or or the I think I think so, because
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  that was when McDonald's had like late night hours, It's mac to night.
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  That was okay. Well, anyway, the way that you know, when
• 1:20:47
  people analyze this stuff in the way that these people do, they it just
• 1:20:51
  come across as the most humorless people on earth. Like I just I can't,
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  Like I'm like, oh, you want to watch let's watch a Kentucky
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  Fried movie or you know Airplane. They by like freak out at the jive
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  talk scene, like completely lose their minds, like I just can't. I
• 1:21:10
  got a super chat from Iggy Thunderers thank you. Iggy gives us five bucks
• 1:21:15
  and says, uh things hipsters ruined Beard's denim, vinyl records, coffee beer,
• 1:21:20
  and Western civilization than Iggy. I have my vinyl records. Still,
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  I think, do we qualify as alt right still or something? Yes?
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  Of course, yes, Well I don't think that the alt right gets used
• 1:21:36
  as a term anymore. But it doesn't matter. Yeah, is the trans
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  issue a wedge issue anymore? Because I you know, like I don't have
• 1:21:43
  a problem with train. I think now we're on the Israel Palestine thing,
• 1:21:45
  so kind of behind Allison. If you support Israel, you're probably all right
• 1:21:50
  now, right, Yes, that that would that's kind of where it Although
• 1:21:56
  that's a tricky that's a tricky area that really went to around and but bought
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  bit something on the ass there. Yeah, that's that doesn't make a hell
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  of a lot of sense. So if you're if you support Israel, you're
• 1:22:08
  a Nazi, Well yeah, right, Ryan at it. We laugh at
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  that that we're there, No, no, just let me laugh that we
• 1:22:16
  are there that. Oh yeah, we are there, Yes, we are
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  there absolutely. I mean yeah, because well all of this stuff is like,
• 1:22:26
  you know, the thing that you are looking at is not really the
• 1:22:29
  thing responding to this thing is not really responding to the thing, because the
• 1:22:31
  thing the power, money and revolution. So and yet individuals really struggle with
• 1:22:40
  metaphors and non litter and literal, literal interpretations of things. And yet,
• 1:22:46
  well, I find that people on who are shall we say, how do
• 1:22:53
  we want to use the term woke? Uh? Morally rigid? Morally rigid?
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  And what I mean by that is people with critical consciousness is what they
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  would describe themselves morally. What's the right way to what's the right way to
• 1:23:06
  say it? It's like, instead of seeing a morality as a manifestation of
• 1:23:14
  individuals, they see individual choices. They see morality as a manifestations of categories.
• 1:23:21
  Yeah, so like it's it's very cast moral casts, moral supporters of
• 1:23:30
  moral caste systems. Basically sure, moral boxing. I don't know these individuals
• 1:23:35
  of moral boxing. They tend to take things very literally, is what I
• 1:23:43
  have noticed. Mm hmm, Okay, let's keep going. All right,
• 1:23:45
  let's let's learn more about the hate symbols and or Matt Tonight, who was
• 1:23:50
  a Matt Donald's mascot has anything to do with neo Nazi as a white supremactist.
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  Pepe the Frog is a human like frog character who has gained substantial popularity
• 1:24:01
  and become one of the most recognizable figures in the meme world. Right,
• 1:24:06
  Pepe, you know what, we haven't kecked in years, so maybe we
• 1:24:13
  can get some top kexx in the chat. But this is this is how
• 1:24:15
  far behind these people are. This is twenty twenty one, but we were
• 1:24:19
  way past Pepe like in twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen. I think people stopped
• 1:24:24
  doing that. I'm not saying that Pepe doesn't still have a place in our
• 1:24:28
  hearts, but it's it's like, yeah, I think we're we're somewhere else
• 1:24:34
  now. The alt rights use of Pepe just drowned out any other visual interpretation.
• 1:24:42
  This frog interpretation. Oh look they quote, they look at their their
• 1:24:47
  their resource was PBS. The alright, let me play the Yeah, c
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  PBS at the top here just trowned out any other visual interpretation. This frog
• 1:25:00
  is going to represent white supremacy, now, huh did it ever really represent
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  No, it was just I think that it was basically just like being a
• 1:25:18
  dissident of any kind. Yeah, it didn't matter. Zaries gave us a
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  super chat Thank you, ZARAINGX and says, remember when CNN created the rarest
• 1:25:30
  Pepe to own the deplorables. No, I mean, like I probably saw
• 1:25:38
  it, but give us more information on the rarest Pepe. Yeah, this
• 1:25:45
  is relevant to our interests. I want to know of course. Yeah,
• 1:25:51
  of course Pepe is the easiest. And that's that's how. You know,
• 1:25:55
  these people don't really like understand this culture. It's just mean culture in general.
• 1:26:00
  So you know, if you go on YouTube, you can find the
• 1:26:04
  generation Alphas. So we're talking about the teenagers coming up right now, Generation
• 1:26:10
  Alpha and Zoomers. They like to watch meme videos and there's like a series
• 1:26:15
  of it's like a trend of meme videos that are recent called politically incorrect memes
• 1:26:20
  for you know, distinguished teens or something like that, and they're they're all
• 1:26:26
  very edgy memes. There's no politics in it, you know, like but
• 1:26:30
  like these people think, oh, well that you know, they're like clutching
• 1:26:32
  their pears like, oh this is this is inappropriate. And of course most
• 1:26:36
  of the people who share these memes are boys and men. So I think
• 1:26:41
  that's really what it comes back to in my opinion. You know, it's
• 1:26:44
  not that women can't meme, but they're like men are more likely to mean
• 1:26:47
  I think so yeah, yeah, I mean if you know any female memers.
• 1:26:53
  No, I'm not excluding them, just saying make sure to exclude them.
• 1:26:56
  Well sorry, I mean make sure. Yeah, loginy came out there
• 1:27:02
  for a second. Got to get that shit internal. All right, all
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  rights, play some more of this. So meme, what you mean?
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  What do a red pill, a McDonald's mascot, and a frog have in
• 1:27:16
  common? They are all well known pop culture references that have been turned into
• 1:27:20
  memes. But that's not all. In recent years, they've become associated with
• 1:27:26
  white supremacist extreamist groups. The medic content provides these groups with the plausible deniability
• 1:27:31
  they need to communicate, organize, and recruit online without violating social media terms
• 1:27:36
  and conditions. Vulnerable populations, such as middle school students, are susceptible to
• 1:27:42
  radicalization through memes like these due to a lack of me medic literacy principles.
• 1:27:47
  WITS is a media literacy lesson plan package that teaches South Carolina middle schoolers to
• 1:27:51
  recognize attempted in doctrination by white supremacist extreamists. The package, complete with the
• 1:27:58
  customizable slide deck in a social media simulation game, enhance the students understanding of
• 1:28:02
  meme history, the medical subtext, and social media algorithms. So what the
• 1:28:11
  medic subtext, medic subtext. Yes, you're gonna you're gonna explain to teenagers
• 1:28:16
  how a funny cartoon frog is gonna make turn them into Nazis, but you
• 1:28:20
  know, not not the Nazis that support it, that don't support Israel.
• 1:28:27
  Like wait, wait, wait, wait wait no, let me get the
• 1:28:30
  politics create the Yeah, dude, there that I don't know, I don't
• 1:28:35
  know, I don't know not Like this politics is starting to become terminal.
• 1:28:42
  It just doesn't make sense anymore. Like no, well, that's where it's
• 1:28:45
  gonna go. It's it's it's in. It's gonna go up its own asshole
• 1:28:47
  and disappear hopefully. Yeah. I saw like a really funny and this is
• 1:28:51
  gonna sound Frazza with it, go ahead. But I saw a really funny
• 1:28:57
  clip from Night Live, believe it or not, where they have like this
• 1:29:03
  thing called, you know, last week Tonight. It's like their fake news
• 1:29:08
  segment that they used to Norm McDonald used to be on it. It was
• 1:29:11
  hilarious stuff. Gilda Ratner would come out as Rosanna, Rosanna and Dana anyway.
• 1:29:16
  But now they have these two new guys, obviously, and they did
• 1:29:20
  a segment where one it was a black guy and white guy. I can't
• 1:29:25
  remember their names, but what they they write jokes for the other guy to
• 1:29:28
  read as false headlines, or they take a real thing and they make it
• 1:29:31
  funny. That's usually what these news things are before John Stewart ruined it.
• 1:29:35
  But and the one guy, the black guy, was talking about Israel Palestine,
• 1:29:41
  and he said something I thought was really funny, and it was intended
• 1:29:43
  to try to offend as many people as possible, right, And he said
• 1:29:46
  something like, uh, you know, this is a this is creating some
• 1:29:50
  some serious tensions in the Middle East, and we don't know, like,
• 1:29:55
  you know, like how things are gonna pan out. And I only hope
• 1:30:00
  that for the best for the Muslims and Jews, but y'all need Jesus.
• 1:30:05
  That was pretty funny, because of course neither of them like Jesus very much
• 1:30:12
  so. But anyway, did I get any more? I know that Allison's
• 1:30:16
  fighting people on Twitter right now. Still, Well, someone just called me.
• 1:30:19
  She said that it's good that we're being targeted by Homeland Security because we're
• 1:30:24
  a hate group. Humen and we hate non white people, Brian, Well,
• 1:30:30
  of course, yeah, yes, well you in particular hate non white
• 1:30:32
  people. Of course I do. I can't stand myself. The thing is
• 1:30:45
  not actually about the thing. It's not people. I don't know why people
• 1:30:53
  don't see this. But okay, but anyway, do we have to do
• 1:30:57
  any thank you before I play more of this fringe. Haven't even checked.
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  I know you haven't looked. I know it's been a while. Yeah,
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  I'm sure you've known what I've been doing. Yep. Okay, well just
• 1:31:09
  while I'm looking. While I'm looking, if you do want to help the
• 1:31:14
  show, it is that feed the Badger, dot Calm slash support. Maybe
• 1:31:16
  someone out there, if you're thinking of making sure we can continue to do
• 1:31:19
  this even despite being targeted by the Alphabet agencies the US government. Why are
• 1:31:28
  you wasting money on us? I mean, good lord, but anyway,
• 1:31:34
  go to feed the Badger, dot comm slash support h and help us.
• 1:31:38
  I mean you, guys, I understand why you'd want to waste money on
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  us. Jeez, that was poorly time, wasn't it. No, they
• 1:31:45
  want to use money. They want to waste our money to get an our
• 1:31:48
  way. It's different. Yeah, they're not. You know, we're asking
• 1:31:53
  you to give yeah, yeah, make sure that we can continue to do
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  this. Feed the Badger doll Calm slash support. There's any out there,
• 1:32:00
  just throw in five bucks so that we know that we've done something tonight,
• 1:32:03
  five bucks, fifty bucks, whatever, Just help us out. Feed the
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  Badger dot com slash support and yeah, let's uh. I guess all right,
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  nothing went through? Yeah, okay, no, no, I don't
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  think so. No. I think these are all accounted for as super chows.
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  All right, it sounds feed the bag com slash just the tip.
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  I'm just doing the message hill ye yeah, the Badger dot com slash just
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  the tip. Okay, all right, uh so, anyway, let's play
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  more. Traditionally, propaganda has been associated with politicized tabloids and pamphlets, but
• 1:32:40
  in our new digital age, propaganda has been developing and spreading faster than ever.
• 1:32:45
  Research has shown that extremist groups target kids as young as twelve to fourteen
• 1:32:48
  years old on social media platforms, a whole new population that probably wouldn't have
• 1:32:54
  been in a Do you mean that they target kids or kids sort of enjoy
• 1:32:59
  pepe memes? No, they are clearly using propaganda we are just telling the
• 1:33:05
  truth, that's what they're saying. Yeah, But here's the thing. It
• 1:33:10
  what my point is is, are these like, are twelve year olds being
• 1:33:14
  targeted with Pepe memes or twelve year olds? Yes, they are memes.
• 1:33:19
  Yes, When they don't, there are no accidents, they find the Pepe
• 1:33:24
  memes and next thing you know, they're burning crosses on their lawn. It's
• 1:33:28
  just where it goes. Don't don't don't ask me how we how we know?
• 1:33:32
  But we know because we're academics, and that means we're smarter than you,
• 1:33:36
  and we're more moral than you, and we don't actually have to follow
• 1:33:41
  any kind of rigorous sign and we don't have to deal with any of the
• 1:33:45
  potential consequences for the ship that we're doing. You know, Okay, we
• 1:33:47
  drive men to delete themselves. That was that was men's fault, toxic masculinity.
• 1:33:54
  I didn't do it. Did there? War on Pepe, ever,
• 1:33:57
  succeed because I see that a lot of forums still use pepees. They can't
• 1:34:01
  win. Pepe can't be you know. Uh, nature finds a way.
• 1:34:08
  The frogs they will just change, they'll just change gender in the same sex.
• 1:34:12
  Environment finds a way oh, good grief, Okay, let's finish this
• 1:34:19
  all right some more, and institutions internationally have begun to realize that social media
• 1:34:26
  fosters this new digital hybrid threat, and in order to solve a new problem,
• 1:34:30
  you're going to need a new proactive solution. I just Jesus Christ just
• 1:34:35
  like these Like this woman is like General Paton with memes, like she thinks
• 1:34:42
  that we are really going to ward like you you see how like passively this
• 1:34:45
  stuff is not absorbed for sae, but like received and shared around like it's
• 1:34:51
  not it's she's like, here's how we're going to do this. I don't
• 1:34:56
  know. It's kind of scary, honestly, it's kind of scary, Like
• 1:34:59
  how how much they want to get in the heads of young men to make
• 1:35:04
  sure they don't do something that they're they're absolutely positive they're gonna do if they're
• 1:35:09
  if they're not modeled, recognize that they're wrong. Honest, Yes, yes,
• 1:35:13
  that's it. Like you can talk about, oh, we want to
• 1:35:15
  stop the violence, Well what what violence? There's almost none, mostly is
• 1:35:21
  suicide. What you really want to stop is the idea that these young men
• 1:35:26
  will figure out that you're wrong. Yep, Okay, all right, let's
• 1:35:31
  play some more. I did get another super chow from Zara Anks and he
• 1:35:36
  says for five bucks, YouTube was censoring my messages. CNN made the clan
• 1:35:42
  Pepe. Oh they did. Wow, very clever, CNN, super clever,
• 1:35:47
  very original idea you made him in Why didn't you give him a little
• 1:35:51
  mustache instead? I mean that's really really original. Yeah. So if there's
• 1:35:58
  not enough association between whites supremacy and Pepe, CNN will make it because apparently
• 1:36:03
  they hate Pepe. That's how it works. Like that's what they do.
• 1:36:08
  They call something white supremacy. If they hate it, why does the white
• 1:36:12
  doesn't? You know? Do you know that they originally confronted the artists that
• 1:36:15
  created Pepe once and they said, they're using your they're using your cartoon character
• 1:36:19
  for these racist and sexist memes. What do you have to say for yourself?
• 1:36:24
  And he was like, I don't approve of that, Like whatever,
• 1:36:28
  right, Yeah, it's just it's so weird how they work, you know,
• 1:36:32
  it's so weird. Yeah, it has to be top down. But
• 1:36:35
  but the thing is that what I'm saying is they have gone to war against
• 1:36:42
  Pepe, like you know, they don't. Actually, I'm pretty sure they
• 1:36:45
  don't genuinely believe that Pepe is white supremacist, white supremacist. They're using the
• 1:36:50
  allegations of white supremacists to destroy the cartoon frog. Now my question is why
• 1:36:56
  why do they hate this cartoon frog so much? Like why because? Is
• 1:37:02
  it because it's a source of information or exchange of information that they simply don't
• 1:37:09
  control. I think that's more likely. Actually, they are at war with
• 1:37:14
  the idea of viral information, like the distributed the distribution of information that they
• 1:37:20
  don't control. That's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is.
• 1:37:25
  And they can't destroy their jelly because they can't mean yeah, yeah, it
• 1:37:30
  just comes down to that. Yeah, they're they're peanut butter and jealous because
• 1:37:35
  they cannot meme, I mean, and so that's why you can tell they
• 1:37:41
  can't by the way they're talking about it, Like here's how a meme is
• 1:37:45
  constructed, and they're like laying it all out in like a really really on
• 1:37:47
  the spectrum kind of way, and it's like, no, even the spurgs
• 1:37:51
  that laugh at the memes can see that there's just humor and they just enjoy
• 1:37:56
  it, like you guys are like trying to like you think there's some kind
• 1:37:59
  of special hidden formula the golden ratio, and if you like get it just
• 1:38:03
  right, people are just going to be entranced and propagandaed using everyone else are
• 1:38:09
  doing propaganda while they're actually doing propaganda. That's why they're trying to control it.
• 1:38:13
  They do not understand the distribution system they're looking at. They like they're
• 1:38:17
  like apes that don't understand trucking the bananas play the two thousand and one in
• 1:38:25
  space outysse music, looking at the memes and something on the computer and you
• 1:38:30
  know and hollering that's a name. Yeah, Okay, I guess the section.
• 1:38:44
  After extensive interviews with subject matter experts in me medic literacy, social media,
• 1:38:48
  and research, and a focus group with South Carolina teachers and faculty,
• 1:38:53
  we found our primary and secondary target audiences are you South Carolina English teachers who
• 1:38:59
  respondle for teaching media literacy to middle schoolers across the state and their students,
• 1:39:04
  particularly those in areas where white supremacy or white supreme systempathies may be common.
• 1:39:10
  For a better visualization of our target audiences, we'd like you to meet a
• 1:39:14
  few of our audience personas. So they've created audience personas. I don't think
• 1:39:20
  these are real people. I think they're like archetypes or templates or something that
• 1:39:26
  represent I think so, but let me just go back here. No,
• 1:39:30
  yeah, this is this is something that you see with they're creating use cases,
• 1:39:35
  which means just people who will be using their their product examples of people.
• 1:39:42
  So what they want to do is they want to defeat the meme culture,
• 1:39:45
  which is essentially what they hate about it is it's a way of distributing
• 1:39:48
  information that they don't control. So they don't understand why this is going everywhere
• 1:39:54
  and people are looking at and exchanging it. It's very suspicious because it's something
• 1:39:58
  that they don't control, and they're fast, let's be frank and absolutely absolutely
• 1:40:03
  and like that. They they want to combat it by using what they do
• 1:40:09
  control, which is the educational system because they're the underdogs. That's why they
• 1:40:13
  control every institutional means of distributing information because they're the underdogs. Good grief,
• 1:40:19
  Okay, let's so let's let's look at like some of the things that they're
• 1:40:23
  expecting. I guess, so some of their use cases. Yeah, this
• 1:40:27
  is just generic one. Let's not even into my thirty fifth year of teaching
• 1:40:30
  sixth grade English. Oh good, look, we don't have to listen to
• 1:40:33
  all this? What can you not hear it? No? I can hear
• 1:40:38
  it. I just don't want to listen to it. Is there a way
• 1:40:40
  to just move it forward like a little bit? Oh you don't want to
• 1:40:43
  listen to this? Yeah, because it's it's just this is actually really low
• 1:40:47
  effort when it comes to a use case. Emilia Hamilton, Uh, okay,
• 1:40:54
  so I can jump. You want me to pass? All these profiles
• 1:40:57
  all just people they made up who are going to use them they made up.
• 1:41:00
  They basically give you a peek into what they think human beings are.
• 1:41:04
  Like it's like there's so generic generic. Yeah, yeah, there was.
• 1:41:13
  Like there's a couple more. It's like, uh oh this this this kid
• 1:41:16
  is gonna be a school shooter. Jack Rutherford, white, blue collar family
• 1:41:23
  thirteen, goes hunting he wants is a potential racist. By the way,
• 1:41:28
  lady, if you hit the public and this is a clip of a kid,
• 1:41:34
  you are a horrible freaking person. Like if this isn't if this is
• 1:41:39
  clip part of a kid, do you have permission to use clip art of
• 1:41:44
  a kid in a way that could reflect badly on the kid, because you
• 1:41:47
  need to read your license. You're not allowed to do that with clip art
• 1:41:54
  of people, much less a child. You disgusting human beings, like I
• 1:42:00
  know that. People are like, oh my god, you're no, this
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  is this is morally wrong. You are now implicating that this kid is a
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  racist. Did you think about that? And you're not supposed to be able
• 1:42:10
  to do that with clip art because there's the if you read the licenses,
• 1:42:14
  they say that, yeah, the depiction of people in clip art, you're
• 1:42:17
  not supposed to use it in a way that will reflect badly on the person
• 1:42:23
  in the art, in the in the in the photograph. What do you
• 1:42:26
  think calling this so called Jack Rutherford a potential racist is gonna do? You've
• 1:42:31
  just put a kid in harm's way with this, with your crap. Okay,
• 1:42:38
  anybody's watching this. This kid is obviously a from a clip art.
• 1:42:45
  This isn't an actual kid, not a real kid who has any kind of
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  opinion that's you know, gonna result in in in him being a horrible person.
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  Okay, mm hmm, good lord, Okay, let's keep going all
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  right, and let me see I think think the first guy was also like
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  a danger scenario. Then we got that visher. Yeah, so those are
• 1:43:10
  the Okay, let me just keep going. Let's see what else we got
• 1:43:13
  this is This is another one that's prone to formally. Okay, so this
• 1:43:16
  one has to like these are the these are the faces of their evil?
• 1:43:20
  Is it good grit? Yeah? We're one and nine minutes, so I'm
• 1:43:29
  just gonna jump ahead a little bit. Is there another is actually? Is
• 1:43:32
  there another case study with a kid? No? No, I think those
• 1:43:36
  are it? There was like four there was an older man, an older
• 1:43:41
  woman, a younger boy, and a younger girl. Oh okay, so
• 1:43:46
  all right. Now they have the social media simulation game. So they created
• 1:43:50
  an online game for students to play in order to test their comprehension of the
• 1:43:55
  information given in the slide deck. So there, this is like their way
• 1:43:59
  of using This is going to be used on kids. So at least that's
• 1:44:02
  their plan. We created an online game for students to play in order to
• 1:44:06
  test their comprehension of the information given in the slide deck. This game was
• 1:44:11
  created on Google Forms and is housed on our website and link tream. It
• 1:44:14
  features oh my change doesn't exist? Who made that? And but like so
• 1:44:21
  they're basically finding memes and then they're finding out whether these kids like it or
• 1:44:26
  dislike it, and then based on that, I guess they can determine whether
• 1:44:30
  they're going to be school shooters or terrorists or something. There's pre selected memes
• 1:44:35
  ranging from harmless to grain area content that could negative government. Why do I
• 1:44:40
  wear? Hear ukuleles playing at the Capitol fifty seven penguin platoon what? I
• 1:44:45
  don't even get that? Did they make these? Because they're not greatly affects
• 1:44:50
  students recommended content. In order to play, students had to enter their initials,
• 1:44:55
  grade level, and type of school. When it's Luau time and your
• 1:44:58
  girl has done god knows what with that your Hawaiian shirt out time, I
• 1:45:02
  don't intended. It was public private war charter specific I information. Wait we
• 1:45:12
  go back? What do they go back? I'm gonna go back. I
• 1:45:14
  don't remember the name. It means from harmless in order to place, level
• 1:45:23
  and type of Jesus there ever public private war charter. There was no personally
• 1:45:29
  there. It is okay when it's the dead of the night and you hear
• 1:45:32
  someone scream yeehaw and break the law and you can smell the corn bread getting
• 1:45:36
  closer. Oh bro is it? Oh man, I don't even know what
• 1:45:45
  that means, Like, imagine that it's the corn Maybe the corn bread intends
• 1:45:50
  to imply a racial element. I would assume so, but I'm pretty sure,
• 1:45:58
  like that's that sounds like a red neck, Yeah, a white man,
• 1:46:01
  like what they would presume a southern white guy would be. Yeah,
• 1:46:04
  so so a yeehaw and break the law sounds like a redneck and which is
• 1:46:10
  actually emphasized with the cornbread, because I didn't think that cornbread was uniquely a
• 1:46:16
  black thing. I think it's a Southern thing. Definitely a Southern thing.
• 1:46:20
  Most things people think about black that are black things are actually just Southern things.
• 1:46:25
  Yeah. Well, I mean that's how it really works. You see,
• 1:46:28
  the all the all the things that are black are actually the things that
• 1:46:30
  white, upper class liberals like. Yeah, and all of the things that
• 1:46:36
  are white are the things that lower class, working class people like because they're
• 1:46:43
  bad, because you know, whiteness is badness and blackness is goodness. And
• 1:46:48
  the upper class middle the middle class, no sorry, the upper class that
• 1:46:54
  are basically just a bunch of courtiers justifying the power of the elites they they
• 1:47:00
  they want to be good, so the things that they like are are not
• 1:47:02
  white. Yeah, of course, because it's a moral cast system, not
• 1:47:06
  actually based on people's actions, but just what they belong to. Anyway,
• 1:47:11
  let's keep going. This is a very confusing meme. I don't yeah,
• 1:47:15
  I don't get it. And again it's like weird. I don't know,
• 1:47:18
  how are you supposed to say like or dislike? Like? These these are
• 1:47:21
  cringe. I know, I don't like any of them. I like them
• 1:47:26
  all. Yeah, yeah, but then, oh, Meme Literacy Day,
• 1:47:30
  we're going to learn how to read memes. Guys. They know the secret,
• 1:47:35
  they know how to get behind it. They can see all the Luciferian
• 1:47:40
  symbols. Like we're supposed to be celebrating Meme Literacy Day in November. Yeah,
• 1:47:45
  why is it? I didn't know that they're packed in November November Meme
• 1:47:51
  Day. I didn't know there was a meme Day. That is What's Men's
• 1:47:55
  Day in Men's nineteenth? November nineteenth is Men'sday. I'm pretty sure I mean
• 1:48:04
  that that was this year. Yeah, so Saturday, November nineteenth, twenty
• 1:48:09
  twenty two. That was in twenty twenty two. What was it in twenty
• 1:48:13
  one. Sorry, and it would have been Friday. I think usually things
• 1:48:16
  are like it's always November nineteenth, Yes, days three days after Men's Day.
• 1:48:24
  Well yeah, why not? You should make Men'sday in the mean day.
• 1:48:28
  Everybody else wants Mensday? Yeah, okay, let's keep going. All
• 1:48:31
  right, let's keep going. Presenting this game to students in the school,
• 1:48:34
  we decided to begin a Mean Literacy Day to encourage teachers to download lesson Plan.
• 1:48:41
  We incentifized teachers to use the Woods Lesson Plan package by entering them in
• 1:48:44
  a raffle for an Amazon gift card. Free meme, what what you mean?
• 1:48:47
  Classroom posters, T shirts and stickers. They're like bribing kids with this
• 1:48:51
  stuff and teachers. I'm I'm pretty sure that no kid wants that shit,
• 1:48:58
  right, I know, I don't meme T shirt that's that's that's the ugliest
• 1:49:02
  goddamn clip arc crap on it. Like, look at the freaking T shirt.
• 1:49:06
  It's back. This is what's truly offensive about all of this? Is
• 1:49:11
  what you want to mean? They got to mean, You've gotta like they
• 1:49:15
  just put like what what what are the memes? What of the memes?
• 1:49:18
  Here's drake and like the Pepe and the amogas and the robot guy behind like
• 1:49:25
  sitting at the desk and the doge and I don't even know what that is
• 1:49:29
  down there. These are like the most basic kids like that stuff, right,
• 1:49:33
  and like this, like a purple shirt with a lighting bult meme?
• 1:49:36
  What you mean he wants that? Who wants that? That is really terrible
• 1:49:42
  design? Like the most offensive thing about this entire video is that T shirt?
• 1:49:50
  Yeah, who the hell designed it? Like a I got the use
• 1:49:55
  case for the designer, a forty one year old, a forty one year
• 1:49:59
  old feminist educator named what what the paint splotches on this? What is that
• 1:50:06
  a poster? Is that a poster? Oh? Good lord, this is
• 1:50:11
  terrible? This on? Hello, fellow kids, that is put in there?
• 1:50:23
  What's the next Where's the next instance of the word meme? Where have
• 1:50:27
  they last to need the word meme? The next instance? Let me see
• 1:50:33
  context? I'm sorry, there's more of this game. Is more of this
• 1:50:38
  game, so let's play more. We also plan free Spring write an opportunity
• 1:50:44
  for teachers to support mean literacy beyond the fall semester. So they want teachers
• 1:50:48
  to get involved with memes. That's what they want to do. So they
• 1:50:54
  are coming for the kids because the kids are vulnerable to this stuff, and
• 1:50:58
  they're going to The whole meme war has taken a back seat to trying to
• 1:51:03
  convince kids that they're actually the opposite gender. But they're but that's because they
• 1:51:09
  can't. They're trying to use memes to do that. But they're terrible.
• 1:51:12
  So you know, they just like have queer kids stuff, play a ukulele
• 1:51:17
  in front of everybody or whatever. But like, I think that I think
• 1:51:21
  that people with a sense of humor. I think children are are better about
• 1:51:27
  this than adults. Generally. They're gonna look for stuff that's fun. They're
• 1:51:31
  not thinking about, like I don't know, shooting up a school or dangerous
• 1:51:36
  misogyny or or any of this crap. And so they're like, well,
• 1:51:40
  how do we get them thinking about it? How do we start the programming?
• 1:51:44
  And I think that's what this is. They're getting the they're too innocent,
• 1:51:46
  Like how do we rip that away? They are to ingest our adult
• 1:51:51
  concerns and take responsibility for adult certain things. Yeah, but you know the
• 1:51:58
  other thing, meme what you mean? So make memes literal? Why does
• 1:52:04
  this lightning bolt look like the SS symbol a little bit on the shirt.
• 1:52:10
  Do you have let me see? Can I go back a team e bit
• 1:52:18
  use the Greatest trip preteend entering them in a raffle for an Amazon gift card?
• 1:52:25
  You mean classroom posters? Yeah? If you do two of those,
• 1:52:28
  right, they have drawn to actually look kind of did Yeah? But seriously
• 1:52:33
  did you? Okay guy? You guys don't see This is how you know
• 1:52:38
  they don't know what they're doing. They're playing with they're playing with forces that
• 1:52:42
  they have no understanding of. Yeah, do you have to draw? Yeah,
• 1:52:46
  there would just be two of them. Yeah, you just have to
• 1:52:50
  put another one there, because it just looks like the one SS symbol with
• 1:52:55
  the with the I don't think that the symbol actually tapers, but it doesn't
• 1:52:59
  matter like it, but it just looks like it's it's like stylistic, it's
• 1:53:01
  got a shadow cast. It's like vaporware. You know this is so lame.
• 1:53:06
  It doesn't even look like vapware. It looks lazy as ship like.
• 1:53:11
  Isn't that just like italicized impact or something like the lettering? They can't even
• 1:53:18
  bother to get some real like I get an artist to letter like create some
• 1:53:21
  lettering or just create a lettering that works with the non icon that you it's
• 1:53:29
  just weak sauce. This is terrible. This, this is truly offensive to
• 1:53:33
  me as an artist. I just have to say, like, this really
• 1:53:38
  pisses me off. It's pretty critic Okay, let's do some more of information.
• 1:53:46
  Our website includes external links to all our social media. But I think
• 1:53:50
  we found the one that's it's just classroom materials page exhausted. Yeah, I
• 1:53:58
  think this is the one that's just playing along. She's just like I just
• 1:54:00
  want to phone it in. I just want to give me my grade,
• 1:54:03
  give me my grade. I want to go back to the adrenaline dope and
• 1:54:08
  get laid. Mm hmm okay. Downloads links to the lesson plan, customize
• 1:54:14
  a side deck and social media algorithm simulation game. We also have helpful lengths
• 1:54:20
  and a mean news section. For digital media, we engage with our primary
• 1:54:28
  target audience through email marketing and mail chat and social media market I can feel
• 1:54:31
  her desire. Yeah, she's just reading from her thing. She probably don't
• 1:54:36
  even write it. She got her friend do it, or some guy,
• 1:54:39
  some some like orbiter. She was like, could you write my paper?
• 1:54:43
  For me. I'm just gonna read it. I don't want to do this.
• 1:54:45
  I don't care, and ironically that that actually makes her more sympathetic.
• 1:54:50
  I don't want to touch this ship. All right, let's keep going,
• 1:54:55
  okay, Pinterest. Our digital media efforts were intended to dry traffick to our
• 1:55:00
  website and increase downloads of our lesson plan package. We conducted a mail champ
• 1:55:04
  email marketing campaign targeting South Carolina Middle School el A teachers and administrators created Facebook,
• 1:55:12
  LinkedIn, and Pinterest pages to target South Carolina. The corporate email campaign,
• 1:55:19
  yeah, I know it's it's terrible, all right, let me go
• 1:55:21
  to the next one. And also, I need to say it, but
• 1:55:25
  their presentation abilities really aren't on par with what you'd expect. I think these
• 1:55:29
  are like post grads they should be. I think, yeah, yeah,
• 1:55:34
  this is this, This looks like this looks like the like this is like
• 1:55:42
  the presentation skills of like maybe a sixth grader. Yeah. I was gonna
• 1:55:45
  say in middle school or maybe like this is you should be better at this,
• 1:55:48
  but now I have freaking social anxiety and I was better at it.
• 1:55:51
  Yep, okay, let me see, let me go to the next example
• 1:55:57
  here, Uh, let me see, I'm just looking here algorithms, source
• 1:56:02
  memes. I guess let's see, let's go here, what's this? What's
• 1:56:10
  the sad one seventeen twenty eight. Okay, get ready for crazy ass Asian
• 1:56:16
  lady. We go around reactions. Do you ask students to take any action?
• 1:56:25
  If is this an actual person? And yeah, she's like looks like
• 1:56:31
  no, but she looks like a freaking face mask. The way that she's
• 1:56:35
  moving, you know, she's one of those one of those Japanese ghosts.
• 1:56:41
  No, but she looks like she's a rig like a rigged face like.
• 1:56:44
  Look at the way she's moving. It's yeah, bi oh yeah right,
• 1:56:46
  there might be some filters she's blurred her background, so okay, keep going.
• 1:56:53
  Maybe I'm wrong the reporting side of that. Look at the way she
• 1:56:58
  rely just identify the cultural history. Maybe it's more time. I just think
• 1:57:03
  she happened there. There was a moment where I think she was like her
• 1:57:09
  consciousness was re uploaded into the mother ship. Look at the look at the
• 1:57:14
  look at the end. Okay, Okay, that is inappropriate and the reporting
• 1:57:19
  side of that, or purely just identify the cultural history, So which more
• 1:57:26
  time and funding. We would have liked to develop our game into a native
• 1:57:30
  That mean, let's not be mean. No, is that really mean?
• 1:57:35
  No, I know it's not what she looks like. It's just like that
• 1:57:39
  moment, like she just that I know, her eyes they were like her
• 1:57:43
  eyes started to roll into the back of her head. I'm actually starting to
• 1:57:45
  feel worried for her. She like having a a uh a job the jab.
• 1:57:55
  We can't say that was she happy? You don't know what that means?
• 1:58:00
  Oh good, Yeah she did. She have a couple of too many
• 1:58:02
  lefts in her in her boxing round that she obviously take too many hits,
• 1:58:09
  right, Yeah, she took too many hits or something. No, I'm
• 1:58:13
  just saying like that was just a little creepy. It wasn't you know.
• 1:58:15
  I'm not casting aspersions on her as a person. I'm just saying that that
• 1:58:19
  moment captured on camera. Yeah, it's a little bit disturbing. People make
• 1:58:25
  weird faces sometimes. I'm like someone giving her a glass of water and maybe
• 1:58:30
  putting her head being between her her knees, looks like she's about to pass
• 1:58:35
  out. Maybe she has really severe social anxiety. You know, I mean,
• 1:58:44
  this is not okay, let's keep going. Let's listen to Mary Jane
• 1:58:47
  from Spider Man to the video game went Back, which would allow us to
• 1:58:51
  create an algorithm on social media that we can use in our game, obviously
• 1:58:57
  with moderators and whatnot to make sure that what we're showing isn't too violent.
• 1:59:00
  But that would be the goal in order to keep our bank of memes relevant.
• 1:59:05
  As far as student reactions, they didn't really understand going to keep our
• 1:59:16
  bank of memes. You know, you see what I'm saying, Like hearing
• 1:59:26
  these people talk about this stuff in such a monotone way. It's like I
• 1:59:33
  swear I've seen it for like another guy faster memes wisely, you know,
• 1:59:40
  the bank of memes, the meme banks, we're going to have to consult.
• 1:59:45
  Can someone please get form number M three seven seven nine niner zero,
• 1:59:56
  oh, category X for this meme? Retrieve it? Now, what do
• 2:00:02
  you think of the meme? The meme is pretty funny, but it checks
• 2:00:08
  out. It's an old meme, sir, but it checks out. Oh
• 2:00:15
  good lord, it's so fun If the humorless are some of the funniest,
• 2:00:21
  I swear that. Well, you know the world needed a straight man,
• 2:00:25
  you know, there wasn't the straight man we asked for, but they were
• 2:00:29
  the ones we needed. This meme is dank. Please rate it on a
• 2:00:36
  scale of cringe to dank. Okay, anyway, my reaction to the disinformation,
• 2:00:44
  I know it's robots. Okay, let's keep going. Since we couldn't
• 2:00:53
  actually put that into a Google form to have them put a comment, I
• 2:00:56
  would like to report this in the future if we had that as an option,
• 2:01:00
  and we would expand our curriculum to explain how students can take action.
• 2:01:04
  At this point in the game, it was more for awareness. All right,
• 2:01:10
  let's go to another mention. I think there's another one there. Do
• 2:01:15
  these mentions eventually end? How many more mentions? Do we have a few
• 2:01:17
  left? I'm just uh, okay, we see. Oh, let's get
• 2:01:23
  back to librarian problem glasses lady here? Oh? Is she do some more
• 2:01:29
  meme stuff? One twenty? Do they have like some sort of framework to
• 2:01:32
  discuss the relevancy of memes? Like? Do they I don't. I don't.
• 2:01:38
  I think that they're just so there's a I didn't play those parts,
• 2:01:43
  but there's a lot of like, you know, to be serious, they're
• 2:01:45
  saying that essentially their resources are are experts in the material of internet, you
• 2:01:55
  know, discourse, So we can't prove that they're like all qualified. They
• 2:02:00
  might just be people who are on the Internet a lot, or think that
• 2:02:04
  they're on the Internet a lot, and you're like an expert on what a
• 2:02:10
  meme that could lead to, you know, whatever, terrible, dangerous,
• 2:02:14
  violent thing that they're expecting, misogyny, whatever, or if they're completely harmless.
• 2:02:18
  I would imagine the memes they would deem to be the safest are the
• 2:02:23
  ones that are not at all like viral worthy, not funny, not and
• 2:02:28
  nothing. They're just they're they're basically blocks of text. Those are the memes
• 2:02:31
  that they like, giant walls of text. So if it's a giant wall
• 2:02:36
  of text, they're probably okay with it as long as it explains oppression dynamics
• 2:02:41
  or something. So okay. Well, I'm just saying, how do you
• 2:02:45
  determine the relevance even meme? I mean, if you have to determine it
• 2:02:48
  isn't it probably lost its relevancy. Yeah, right. And the other thing
• 2:02:56
  is that it sounds like they're just sucking talking about the way people people explain
• 2:03:00
  jokes. You just shouldn't do it. They're talking about. Well, the
• 2:03:04
  thing is that it sounds like they're not making their own memes. They're just
• 2:03:08
  incorporate, they're just appropriating the meme culture for themselves. Mm hmmm mm hmm.
• 2:03:15
  Okay, let's keep going at Eric finished this off great. Yeah,
• 2:03:19
  thank you so much for that. And as someone that spends a lot of
• 2:03:24
  time on websites and forums, I can tell you I recognize a lot of
• 2:03:28
  those memes and it's definitely an issue, especially when it's related to kind of
• 2:03:31
  pop culture and subcultures. And the whole point of memification is to make things
• 2:03:36
  easy, trendy, and consumable. I did want to ask you a little
• 2:03:41
  bit about one is how you're trying to target quote unquote algorithms. Obviously this
• 2:03:47
  is a very big topic. It's mentioned all the time on the news,
• 2:03:49
  But algorithm can mean anything. Algorithm is any input with an output online.
• 2:03:55
  I think you're meaning rabbit holes are echo chambers when one piece of content leads
• 2:04:00
  you to more trending content. Soait, wait, wait, are you saying
• 2:04:05
  that the in cells and the red pil of the manisphere are dangerous because they
• 2:04:12
  live in echo chambers? Okay, and this is from someone. Ye,
• 2:04:21
  this is from someone who has a belief system. Okay. They they say
• 2:04:28
  it's scientific, which means that it is making it like it's making, it's
• 2:04:32
  presenting facts about reality. It's making it's essentially saying X is correlated to why,
• 2:04:38
  and you know that has been proven allegedly. So feminism takes the patina,
• 2:04:44
  the moral authority, or at least the logical I don't know the reason
• 2:04:48
  authority of an academic endeavor, and yet it never even states a frickin hypothesis,
• 2:05:00
  like what's the essential feminist hypothesis? They don't state it. They just
• 2:05:05
  say, oh, there are many feminisms. Well, that isn't science.
• 2:05:09
  No, And if it's not science, you're not making statements about reality.
• 2:05:15
  Right. If you are going to say that you are making a statement about
• 2:05:19
  reality, then your statement, your conjecture needs to be well clearly stated first
• 2:05:25
  of all, which we don't even get with the entirety of feminists whatever it
• 2:05:30
  is. Okay, at least the academic end of feminism was take away the
• 2:05:35
  political and the quote unquote ideological and just look at the academic They don't even
• 2:05:42
  state a clear hypothesis. I mean, I can make an assumption I shouldn't
• 2:05:45
  have to make an assumption. I shouldn't have to assume that this is the
• 2:05:49
  hypothesis hypothesis that feminists are working under. Right, they should have it right
• 2:05:56
  out there and they should say, this is what our statement is, and
• 2:06:00
  we have attempted to falsify it. They haven't done that, and they haven't
• 2:06:02
  done that because what they believe has nothing to do with reality. They are
• 2:06:09
  manufacturing a reality. And then they have the audacity to turn around and say,
• 2:06:14
  oh, these are echo chambers and rabbit holes. You know what,
• 2:06:17
  if you weren't an echo chamber and a rabbit hole, you wouldn't be afraid
• 2:06:21
  of discourse and you wouldn't be afraid of being proven wrong. Yeah, all
• 2:06:31
  right, a little bit more and then we'll stop it. Sure, well,
• 2:06:35
  I mean, how many more instances of the word meme are there?
• 2:06:40
  Uh, there's a couple, more like four more, I think. So
• 2:06:45
  I'll play more of this, maybe just a little bit more about how you
• 2:06:48
  were training around? Is it just awareness that content can go down as spiraling?
• 2:06:55
  A lot of this content also gets shared very holistically, not because of
• 2:06:58
  algorithms, but because friends share among networks, and so maybe how you were
• 2:07:01
  approaching that, and then as a slight follow up, I think Clara,
• 2:07:04
  I want to maybe just to what they want to control the cartoon frog because
• 2:07:12
  they do not understand the distribution method. Yes, yes, they want to
• 2:07:15
  they want to control the frog. To repeat, to get some clarity on
• 2:07:20
  how do you keep the resources up to date? Because in the mumified world
• 2:07:25
  and in these subcultures, adversarial shifts are really fast, so sometimes a character
• 2:07:30
  comes up, or the the lingo or phrases or subculture language changes very quickly.
• 2:07:36
  And how would you keep this updated, especially knowing that sometimes school districts
• 2:07:41
  don't update it. And I honestly say something in the adversarial I will give
• 2:07:45
  her one thing she actually knows how to present. She's at least engaging to
• 2:07:51
  listen to. Yeah, yeah, let's keep going. Okay, I think
• 2:07:59
  she's gonna I disagree with her absolutely, but she's at least engaging. M
• 2:08:03
  hm. She doesn't appear to be passing out on camera. That's true.
• 2:08:07
  She's not a student. I think she's like. Our goal would be to
• 2:08:11
  work with a developer who could help us simulate a social media algorithm that would
• 2:08:15
  typically still be with an if then model but as far as right now,
• 2:08:18
  we were trying to focus students on being aware because since so many of them
• 2:08:22
  in middle school are just getting on platforms, many of them depended specifically on
• 2:08:30
  what they interacted with or what they viewed multiple times content or don't interact with
• 2:08:37
  content, and they're going to have done this, well, maybe they'll get
• 2:08:41
  a job doing this in a in a corporate setting. Yep. Oh yeah.
• 2:08:50
  Somebody's mentioned that there haven't been any men talking. There are some men
• 2:08:56
  in this video, but it's mostly women. I think the the guy running
• 2:09:01
  the thing as a man. The guy who's like, you know, he's
• 2:09:03
  like a dean or something. I guess I don't really know. He might
• 2:09:07
  be the fed that's setting this whole thing up. I don't know. But
• 2:09:11
  yeah, it is mostly women because that's kind of how it always shakes out,
• 2:09:13
  isn't it. So uh, you see will affect what they see in
• 2:09:20
  the future. Clara has her hand up. Clara, I don't I think
• 2:09:28
  that was previously let me Laura it maybe. Okay, let's get to the
• 2:09:33
  is there any how many more? There's the next bit right here. Hold
• 2:09:39
  on, hold, I just want to do completion because I'm an artist.
• 2:09:43
  Yeah, we we should. That's fine. We're almost at the end.
• 2:09:50
  We'd like to work with a web developer who could simulate an algorithm and then
• 2:09:54
  pull from what's already on social media. So, particularly with things like Twitter,
• 2:09:58
  where things fall very rapidly, we'd like to create something that would be
• 2:10:03
  able to pull memes from a bank similar to the website Know Your Meme dot
• 2:10:07
  Com. They pull in memes that are relevant and then they ask users to
• 2:10:13
  comment on what their purposes are. So it could be possible for us to
• 2:10:16
  pull from something like that, so that we would know your continuous update a
• 2:10:22
  website if you want to, if you want to know if you see a
• 2:10:24
  meme, you can like search for it on Know your Meme and they'll give
• 2:10:28
  you the backstory of it and everything. No, Know your Meme is a
• 2:10:33
  good It's it's doing God's work on the Internet. It's helpful, you know,
• 2:10:37
  if you see like, if you see something you're like, I don't
• 2:10:39
  get that, you can go to Know your Meme and and I think,
• 2:10:43
  I mean, I don't know. I don't go there all the time,
• 2:10:46
  but it's it's it's saved my ass a couple of times when I'm like,
• 2:10:50
  why I'm not I'm I'm so behind on this. I need to look this
• 2:10:52
  meme up. Sure enough, it's usually there. It's like a Wikipedia,
• 2:10:56
  but it's better because it's not Wikipedia. Oh you know what else it is?
• 2:11:01
  This meme culture gives authority to someone other than them as well. Yes,
• 2:11:07
  of course, this conversation a distribution method that they don't control, and
• 2:11:15
  it grants authority to just people that they haven't annoyed anointed m hm. And
• 2:11:20
  the way that they're going about this is so draconian it's hilarious. Yeah,
• 2:11:26
  it's because they're afraid, because they I think that they think of memes in
• 2:11:31
  a way. It's true. Memes are like ideas spoken very quickly and efficiently.
• 2:11:39
  It's almost you could say, a secret language. Uh. And of
• 2:11:45
  course they would see it as more like a dog whistle for something terrible,
• 2:11:48
  But it's not that it's like a shared like we see a meme and we
• 2:11:54
  all have like a shared idea of what it means, you know, like
• 2:12:00
  and we find it funny like the mister frog. Gentlemen, it is with
• 2:12:03
  great set is to inform you that women right, and you're and you're you're
• 2:12:11
  just supposed to laugh at it and move on because it's But the reason why
• 2:12:16
  it works is because everyone relates or at least people with a sense of humor
• 2:12:20
  due you know so and you know some and not all me. I think
• 2:12:28
  that Another thing about memes too, is that they're kind of merit based,
• 2:12:31
  Like everyone tries to make them, but not all of them make it,
• 2:12:35
  you know, like to the top, right, they have to be the
• 2:12:37
  funniest one that has the quickest, you know, and and the most reusable.
• 2:12:41
  Remember when the Winter is Coming meme was out, and I mean it
• 2:12:46
  was used for everything because Game of Thrones was on TV and people were you
• 2:12:52
  know, like it was like the first season. But after like a year
• 2:12:56
  or two years, people were done with that one, like they were making
• 2:13:00
  you know, Winter is Coming memes for the Winter is Coming, mean like
• 2:13:03
  it was meaning itself, and then then you knew it was on its way
• 2:13:07
  out. It's like, Okay, nobody's going to do this anymore. So
• 2:13:09
  I don't know if the people will get that. It's just it's something wrong
• 2:13:13
  with it. Like sometimes it's good to look at the old the classics,
• 2:13:16
  you know, look back at the classics, but then you move on,
• 2:13:18
  right, Yeah, so anyway a little bit more think of memes that the
• 2:13:24
  game could pull from making it every time, though she didn't do the obvious,
• 2:13:31
  which would have made it. I think they literally think it's a bank,
• 2:13:33
  like they're putting stuff in it and they're saving it for a ding.
• 2:13:35
  But you said the dank of memes, I said that, Yes, I
• 2:13:39
  don't know why you wouldn't call it that. I mean, oh, man,
• 2:13:46
  okay, that's a missed opportunity in my opinion. Oh, it definitely
• 2:13:50
  is. Yeah, Judges, we have three minutes left. Any other questions,
• 2:13:56
  Oh good lord, you can jump in with one more. Have you
• 2:14:00
  guys thought about instead of just curriculum for students, but training teachers to also
• 2:14:05
  submit their questions when they're going through the teaching process, and also not just
• 2:14:13
  memes being one way from you guys downstream, but also in reverse students.
• 2:14:16
  There's something really uncannab a meme. Is there a space where they can they
• 2:14:22
  can get more questions, get more answers that she's she looks like one of
• 2:14:30
  the androids from Detroit become human. That's what like if you've ever played that
• 2:14:37
  game, they it's like the same clothes too. I think are people gonna
• 2:14:43
  call us a racist, but it's not. No, no Detroit human would
• 2:14:46
  become human. The androids were all the different to the kinds. I mean,
• 2:14:50
  they were all robots. It don't matter what their race on the surface
• 2:14:54
  like, But yeah, I'm not, I'm not. I don't think it's
• 2:14:58
  racist. Kind of a break because sometimes there are memes that are not obvious.
• 2:15:03
  There might be inside jokes that are not obvious. We're getting to the
• 2:15:05
  end of this definitely through the website and what Okay, are they going to
• 2:15:11
  say the word memes soon? Yeah? They are. Yeah. With more
• 2:15:16
  funding, we did have a section of what's dedicated to more research and kind
• 2:15:22
  of higher levels of written articles about digital propaganda and how memes play, memes
• 2:15:28
  role in the violence. So further funding, we would hopefully have more contact
• 2:15:35
  information. We could sustain this. We could have hr people emailing back,
• 2:15:43
  so we would definitely be open to that communication in the future, along with
• 2:15:46
  updating the website more with further information and resources. Oh good lord, this
• 2:15:52
  is just painful. Yeah, let's just let's just leave it there, because
• 2:15:56
  it's like they don't understand any of this. They really want to, they
• 2:16:05
  don't care to understand it right. They just don't like that somebody has an
• 2:16:09
  authority that they don't anoint and has a way of distributing stuff that they don't
• 2:16:15
  control. It's as simple as that it is. Now, I propose if
• 2:16:24
  we do something completely different, and I have sent you a link unless you
• 2:16:28
  want to, yes, I sent you a link. I mean, if
• 2:16:33
  you want to make some final statements, like there's is it this reddit thing?
• 2:16:39
  Let me let me put this up on the screen here. Yeah,
• 2:16:43
  let's let's just do something to share this tab instead you should be looking at
• 2:16:48
  it. Mm hmm. And I think that I'll go back to the sources
• 2:16:52
  that people should be able to see it. So let me just expand on
• 2:16:56
  this so that people can actually see it, see it. I just thought,
• 2:17:00
  you know, let's let's let's have a change the place. Let's let's
• 2:17:03
  do something different, because this is just getting into the weeds. I think,
• 2:17:07
  once we're at the point where we're talking about a bank of memes,
• 2:17:11
  we're just this isn't like that the bank of memes isn't full of memes that
• 2:17:16
  are even you know, it's not a mortuary of memes. It's like the
• 2:17:22
  ashes that are remained, you know, that that you can't even reconstruct a
• 2:17:28
  you know, like we'll go back and say it wasn't that a good meme?
• 2:17:30
  No, that's just it's just it's just a bunch of ashes that you
• 2:17:33
  can get nothing from at that point. So let's let's look at this instead.
• 2:17:39
  Okay, that's fine. So this is from Reddit on what Internet Drama.
• 2:17:48
  Yeah, one is another of emotional abuse, physical abuse, and sexual
• 2:17:52
  harassment in the astral plane. The accused party's attempts to defend himself that he
• 2:17:58
  doesn't actually project into others' dreams have not been successful. So so, okay,
• 2:18:15
  is that not a great I don't even read any of this now,
• 2:18:18
  Like I think that's the whole thing. Yeah, basically, I mean there's
• 2:18:22
  some detail I guess you could go into. Let's see how long it is.
• 2:18:26
  Just just scroll down. God, it's kind of a long story,
• 2:18:28
  all right, just a few paragraphs. Kaisha Keisha, the mystic Keisha is
• 2:18:35
  a pretty popular TikToker in the spiritual realm of TikTok and claims to be able
• 2:18:39
  to ask for project talk to your ancestors angels. The goddess isis, Oh
• 2:18:46
  no, I don't you and and so so much more, but only if
• 2:18:54
  you pay her three hundred and thirty three dollars an hour. One could assume
• 2:18:58
  that Kaisha is just a grifter parting morons from their money, but the truth
• 2:19:03
  is so much better. Before we go on, I just want to point
• 2:19:07
  out that this is from a someone called Joan Wayne Gracie Gasey and it's not
• 2:19:15
  on Reddit, So if you're interested in finding the original, I'll direct you
• 2:19:18
  to Joan Wayne Gracie just Gasey, just so that you know we're doing the
• 2:19:22
  shout out because I don't want to shout out to John Wayne Gacy. Joan
• 2:19:28
  Joan Wayne Casey. And also just remind everyone send in those super child's feed
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• 2:19:39
  into the void. And also support us feed the Badger dot calm slash support.
• 2:19:43
  All right, continue, Brian, all right. Last week he should
• 2:19:46
  have posted a trio of tiktoks that have been since been deleted, wherein she
• 2:19:50
  recounts a monthy month, month long relationship with a man that she would not
• 2:19:56
  name. In these videos, she explains how she was physically, emotionally and
• 2:20:00
  actually abused the abuse lasted for months and she was deeply traumatized. There is
• 2:20:05
  literally zero trace of the original videos, not even stitches, reposts, or
• 2:20:09
  duets, so TikTok itself may have stepped in the scrub to scrub them due
• 2:20:13
  to legal issues. After some prodding by her fellow psychic astrologer friends, she
• 2:20:18
  finally revealed who the perpetrator of this horrific abuse is. She also revealed that
• 2:20:24
  she has never met this man in person and all of the abuse that she
• 2:20:26
  has been enduring for months has been occurring in the astral realm and has been
• 2:20:31
  him waging psychic war on her psychic grape. The perpetrator was named a fellow
• 2:20:39
  popular spirituality TikToker named Saint Finniken. He first responded by releasing a video city
• 2:20:46
  he does not wage psychic war on women and would never astrologically abuse anyone because
• 2:20:52
  he has a girlfriend and he's not even really sure if voodoo is even real
• 2:20:56
  to the parody, he stated in the only head two business related video calls
• 2:21:01
  with Keisha and that she has been sending him bizarre texts four months. Okay,
• 2:21:07
  there's some problems with this. I can't be with her because I have
• 2:21:13
  a girlfriend. This is another one of those apparently having a girlfriend makes a
• 2:21:16
  man a human being. Well, no, he's a human being whether or
• 2:21:20
  not he has a girlfriend. But regardless, it's just this There is so
• 2:21:26
  much I was just saying that, I'm you know, I'm just picking out
• 2:21:28
  the parts that are wrong enough that you can sort of contend with them,
• 2:21:35
  you know what I mean. And then there's all the stuff that's so wrong
• 2:21:39
  you don't even know where to begin. Yeah, it's like, okay,
• 2:21:43
  so you're you're accusing this man of casper rape rape. H I got a
• 2:22:01
  I did get a rumble rant from someone, but for some reason it didn't
• 2:22:03
  come up in my in my other thing. I'm gonna read the rumble rant
• 2:22:07
  really quick though. Nova Fan twenty one says they unironically for two dollars,
• 2:22:13
  they unironically believe edgy humor that references bigotry is just a shield for cult propaganda
• 2:22:20
  instead of just absurdity humor. Yes, they're they're some of the most unfunny
• 2:22:24
  people on earth. I mean, let's just be real. So all right,
• 2:22:33
  do I mean to read more of this or I mean I'll just read
• 2:22:41
  one more paragraph and I think I'm done. Since Saint Finnikin also sells spiritual
• 2:22:46
  services and advice, Instead of saying that spiritual warfare is not real and you
• 2:22:50
  cannot enter someone's dreams to assault them, he allowed the possibility he could be
• 2:22:54
  real and said he doesn't do those things because they are wrong. I don't
• 2:22:58
  you. I only is my powers for good. Oh ooh, yeah,
• 2:23:09
  this is uh, this is you really shouldn't have invited. I mean,
• 2:23:13
  honestly, you you are now arguing with insanity. Dude, Okay, but
• 2:23:18
  you're also trying to protect your your own grift, so you're like, no,
• 2:23:22
  no, I totally could do it, but I've taken them. I've
• 2:23:26
  taken the oath, the Oath of Osiris, and I swear I will not.
• 2:23:33
  I can't. I actually can't use my powers in the in the what
• 2:23:37
  do you call it, like the the waning of the moon in cancer?
• 2:23:43
  I don't know. Whatever people say, I don't know, just keep going
• 2:23:48
  all right. On most of TikTok, the comments are overwhelmingly supportive of Keisha's
• 2:23:56
  side of the story and that the accused man is definitely ashle for rejecting into
• 2:24:00
  her dreams and gaslighting her about it. Supporters are posting videos asking for prayers
• 2:24:05
  to punish people who are not believing that she went through spiritual warfare. Meanwhile,
• 2:24:09
  the other half of spiritual talk exploded with a secondary drama surrounding spiritual psychosis,
• 2:24:16
  which means that while you're doing shadow work, actual projecting into angel energies
• 2:24:22
  and the like, that you can sometimes get confused and mistake spiritual experiences is
• 2:24:26
  happening in the physical plane. These conversations are slightly more skeptical of the accuser
• 2:24:30
  story, but still by the premise the spiritual abuse is actually happening. Oh
• 2:24:39
  how then, how would you prove this is like basically witch hunting at this
• 2:24:43
  point? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, all right, I'll
• 2:24:50
  I'll just is that the end. No, there's more a little bit.
• 2:24:54
  However, this still means a psychic abuse is still his fault, because while
• 2:24:58
  he did not abuse Keisha in his actual reality or the physical reality, he
• 2:25:03
  probably did it in her astral reality in the end. In the end,
• 2:25:09
  as of two days ago, Saint Finnican appeared distressed and pleaded for Keisha and
• 2:25:13
  her supporters to stop harassing him, noting that harassment was actually taking place in
• 2:25:18
  the moral realm on TikTok, not the spirit realm. So you know,
• 2:25:20
  like because when you're gaslighting, you're doing it in the real world, which
• 2:25:24
  is I mean, if you have like the ability to actual project, why
• 2:25:28
  wouldn't you just do it there? I just that's what I would do,
• 2:25:31
  I guess. He pushed back slightly more on the spirit the reality of spiritual
• 2:25:39
  warfare, stating that instead, all emotional energies come from within. Despite like
• 2:25:43
  thousands of supportive comments on his own posts, the drama raged on, and
• 2:25:48
  just a few hours ago he announced that he is taking a break from social
• 2:25:50
  media. In the days between deleting the original videos and the drama going viral,
• 2:25:56
  Keisha returned to business as usual content until today, when she posted an
• 2:26:00
  update thanking supporters and pushing back on those that did not believe her. Most
• 2:26:03
  interestingly, she implies three other victims have come forward who experienced spiritual warfare from
• 2:26:09
  the accused in the exact same way that she experienced it, and she will
• 2:26:13
  be sharing one of their stories. The comments are full of drama, with
• 2:26:16
  Keisha responding to those skeptical of her that the truth will be revealed soon,
• 2:26:24
  So there you go. You can literally accuse a man of doing some comments
• 2:26:31
  that. I mean, there is no way to defend against this, none
• 2:26:39
  whatsoever. Even the fact that he wasn't in her presence isn't a defense against
• 2:26:43
  astral projection. Grape, good grief. All right, So what are the
• 2:26:50
  comments? You know, this is warfing is the dumbest shit I've ever heard,
• 2:26:54
  but in the most amazing way possible outsetting right up. Mhm. Unfortunate
• 2:27:01
  for the guy. They're gonna have some serious consequences to his life for this.
• 2:27:07
  But yeah, maybe he should just like walk away. Uh, this
• 2:27:13
  sounds like not safe for work, D and D adventure. That's it all
• 2:27:20
  I got. There was a bit more. There's a bit more where down
• 2:27:24
  down down incredible, Thank you for sharing it is. Oh up, sorry,
• 2:27:33
  this is this isdible. I'm astounded that. Oh. But also there
• 2:27:41
  they're saying that he's stuck because he'd have to admit he's a grifter. Yeah,
• 2:27:46
  he's stuck because he would have to basically be like, look, this
• 2:27:50
  isn't real. Yeah, it's a checkmate move by her. So Hibane,
• 2:27:54
  thanks for the thanks for the I plans. Yeah, this is uh a
• 2:28:00
  tough position to be in. But you know, he might actually just be
• 2:28:03
  like a spiritualist, not actually saying he can do like voodoo. He might
• 2:28:09
  just be like, oh, let's meditate together or something else, you know
• 2:28:13
  that. I mean that might I mean it. I know a lot of
• 2:28:16
  people don't think that's legitimate, but it can it. You know, if
• 2:28:20
  you if you have somebody who's helping you with those aspects of your life,
• 2:28:24
  at least it's positive in a way. I don't know. I honestly think
• 2:28:30
  that he's not having a trouble condemning. It's not the issue of him revealing
• 2:28:35
  his own grifts. The fact that he'd have to actually go after a woman
• 2:28:39
  that's the trouble here. Yeah, But anyway, I thought that this was
• 2:28:43
  very bizarre that we end with something like, yeah, that this is bizarre.
• 2:28:52
  It might be, It might be, it might be slightly a little
• 2:28:56
  bit bizarre, a little bit a little bit. Okay, I got another
• 2:29:00
  superchow. I got another super chow. Yeah, Michael Keller with the super
• 2:29:09
  chow. He gives us it's five dollars and says happy holidays, and don't
• 2:29:13
  act will project you to the States, Allison or DHS give you a ticket
• 2:29:20
  to Cuba. Everyone definitely. I wouldn't have layers that that layers be read
• 2:29:28
  me. I'll keep my spiritual essence on the northern side of the border at
• 2:29:35
  least astro project into like some other country. I don't know, I can't.
• 2:29:41
  I mean, when I'm asleep, I'm not in control. So it's
• 2:29:45
  to me. Hey, hey, Brian, men are always in control,
• 2:29:50
  which they're not, you know, even when they're asleep, blackout, drunk
• 2:29:56
  or being raped. Men are always responsible. Don't you forget it? I'm
• 2:30:01
  sorry, I'm sorry, mother Mary. All right, Okay, well what
• 2:30:09
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  Yeah, it go through most of it. I think it was you know
• 2:31:13
  we yeah no, I mean there's well, we were just searching by search
• 2:31:18
  terms, so I could always go back and find they actually haven't broken up
• 2:31:20
  in the chapters too, so we could always go back to Karen. I
• 2:31:24
  know it's it's it's terrible solow energy, such crappy work. I just know.
• 2:31:28
  Okay yet, seven hundred thousand dollars. All right, thank you guys
• 2:31:33
  for coming share the video. We'll talk to you guys next time.