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Qatar Opposition leader & billionaire Khalid Al-Hail about Power, Money & Democracy | Inside Qatar · Gunther Fehlinger Podcast

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And it's with the prominent guests which gives us the honour
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that we can discuss world affairs.
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And I'm very happy here from Austria to have a friend and
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important expert and leader of Qatar, who is the opposition
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leader of Qatar. And Mr. Khalid, I'm very happy
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that you take time. I think you are basically in
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exile in the United Kingdom because Qatar, unfortunately is
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not a democracy. We are very dependent on Qatari,
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I guess in Europe. We want to understand what's
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exactly going on in Qatar and maybe first of all, you can
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introduce yourself and then we will discuss the situation of
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Qatar, the Middle East, and also the current crisis and the
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situation with Iran. I'm very grateful that you take
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time, Mr. Khalid. The floor is yours.
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Thank you very much for this introduction and it's my
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pleasure to be here today. And it's very simple.
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I'm a local Qatari citizen. My name is Khalid Al and I
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started the Qatari youth movement back in 2010 and 2014.
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I, I made the official announcement of the youth party
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and then we moved into Qatar National Democratic Party, which
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has been active since then. So.
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As you of this party. Couldn't hear you what you say
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you are the. President of the Party of the.
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Yes, yes, I am the leader of Qatar National Democratic Party
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and we did pressure. We've been pressurizing the
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Qatari government since 2009 for having an election in the
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parliament. They promised us 2013 and then
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we held the election in 2020 plus and then they cancelled the
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whole democracy a few years ago. They have cancelled the
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elections completely. They have cancelled the whole
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election because they started to lose power within the
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constitution and the Qatar government was not happy about
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that. So they've been describing
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themselves in the West as a constitutional monarchy system
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and that's what how they are putting pushing themselves in
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front of the West. But they cancelled the whole
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election in Qatar because they started to believe that the
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founders families of Qatar are not happy and they will start to
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lose the power. Tell me, Mr. Khalid, what we
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have to take from the Qatar government and the Qatar at the
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moment. Is it a friendly country to
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Europe or to the West, or is it a unfriendly country?
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Is it part of the hostile alliance which we have with
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Russia and Iran as enemies, or is it a friendly government?
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First of all, Qatari people has no say in any of what the
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government and regime of Qatar do or say is an absolute
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monarchy system run by one man and a few people surrounding
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him. They choose to be an Islamist
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propaganda machine government. They choose to host Hamas, They
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choose to host Taliban. They choose to host a lot of
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terrorist organisations like the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Years ago in 1999, everyone in the world saw first time Osama
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bin Laden on Al Jazeera channel and since then we only see an
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Islamist media narrative that the Qatari government adopted.
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The main reason they do that, they do believe that if they
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choose that narrative, they will be controlling a lot of
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Islamists in the world and they could play with the people,
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emotions and the Middle East by the name of God.
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Tell us also more or less, Khalid, we have to understand
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Qatar today as a hostile regime to the West.
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Is not a friendly Qatar regime, is not a friendly country to the
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West. It's an enemy of the West.
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They are sponsoring and supporting anti European values.
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France all the way. Wherever you find the problem.
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If there is a kidnap, if there is, if there is money
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laundering, if there is Islamist support.
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All being sponsored and supported by Qatar.
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All of us knows the story of Tareq Ramadan, for example,
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grandson of the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood movement.
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Qatar supported him big time in media and they still supported
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him. They put a lot of pressure on
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the on the on Hinda Ayari, the lady who who actually accused
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Tarak Ramadan of rape. They try to buy silence.
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They always try to pressurize like governments, like even
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French government macro. They've been telling them you
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have to close the case against Nasr Al Khaleifi because it will
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affect the government of Qatar. Whenever there is any European
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values you find Qatar is supporting exactly the opposite
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and they are buying their own fronts and their way into the
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European Parliament. You've seen recently there was
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one European MP which being actually catch getting money
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from Qatar. How many other MPs and how many
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other officials in the European Union being sponsored by Qatar
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and is not being find out yet? It's a matter of time to find
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out who they buy and why they buy and what and what is their
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own agenda. During the World Cup you could
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understand a little bit that the corruption happened in the
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European Union and especially in the European Sports Committee.
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It was because they wanted to influence the votes we all see
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in the corruption deals that happen.
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A lot of people being like being accused officially of getting
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bribes from Qatar for the 2022, That's their own method.
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But they're getting away with this all the time because there
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is a lot of people on the payroll that on their own good,
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they don't want to push this forward.
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Qatar today is a center of global corruption in the West,
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in the in Brussels and in Washington.
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They are not only the main hub of corruption, they are a
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corrupted regime, and they are buying their influence toward
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the European Union, toward the American institution and the
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Constitution of America as well. You could see, for example,
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they've been pushing in the media in America that Qatar is
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the best ally of America. They have the largest air base
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in the world. But when the story came to
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American interest in fighting Iran, they go to America.
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They say, oh, you cannot use our base.
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So what type of an ally is that? So why we would spend a lot of
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money and keep our airplanes there in Qatar?
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And are they our friends or the Iranian government friends?
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Everyone knows in 2019 Iran pressurized Qatar to leave OPIC
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in 2019 and Qatar left OPIC for Iran and they've been focusing
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on the LNG for the for the gas and Qatar, Iran sharing the
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largest gas field in the world and the Iranian regime doing to
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due to the sanction. They basically using the Qatari
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government to sell on their behalf as well.
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And no one is watching. They've been a lot of big deals
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recently with China and that deals, a lot of money is going
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basically to Iran and they are buying their they're buying
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their existence with the Iranian regime and the Americans and the
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Europe as well by lying to each other.
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And always we say a friend of everyone is the enemy of
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everyone. Tell me about the relation of
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Qatar today with the other Gulf Cooperation Council members is,
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I mean seemingly there was also a crisis in 2017 ongoing.
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How is the relation with Saudi Arabia?
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2014 they had a conflict, 2017 they had a conflict, and after
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2014 they actually signed with King Abdullah.
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They lied to him, and then they came back to the same agenda and
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2017 the crisis established again.
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They signed a deal in 2020. The only issue we can see now is
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that most of the issues being raised by the GCC countries in
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that in that time it still exists support of Hamas, Al
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Jazeera, media narrative and all of that is still there.
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And Qatar now choose to play different game, a dirty game
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with their their own neighbors. They said, OK, we can be their
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friends, we can still be friends with UAE, friends with Saudi
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Arabia. But we are at the same time we
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make problems between between them.
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So they go to their enemies, for example, and Houthis in Yemen.
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OK, say this about UAE in Saudi Arabia to make a problem.
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For example, they they create a fake narrative that UAE funded
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the front and funded Houthi or want to pay Houthi to actually
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hit Saudi Arabia in Newham. All of this sort of games is
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actually just, you know, a fake news that the Qatari government
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to create and let the world believe it by pushing it in
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their own media. If you go see who basically was
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pushing that stories and narrative, you will find same
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people for many years they've been pushing the stories of the
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Qatari government in the media. So they are part of a propaganda
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machine and they basically using it now to revenge from their own
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neighbors. So the GCC countries now need to
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think and actually need to reconsider of what the Qatari
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regime is doing now. They have no options.
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They have only one options either.
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They look after their own national security or the Qatari
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government will start again. And they are actually never
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stopped supporting the oppositions of the GCC
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countries. If you see now, for example, in
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social media, there was a lot of fronts NGOs against Saudi
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Arabia. But when the war between Saudi
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and UAE happened recently, the media war have seen the same
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fronts that been sponsored by Qatar.
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They become pro Saudi and and take UAE.
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That's crazy. So someone behind it.
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I mean an opposition is an opposition.
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If you were talking all the time.
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For example, there was an account in Arabic called Nauer
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Hariya. That account was basically
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focusing on human rights angle in Saudi Arabia.
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They've been saying Saudi's been doing 12345.
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But this since the conflict between Saudi and UAE started
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the same fronts being actually just anti UAE and anti Israel
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and anti the West interest in the Middle East.
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We have actually very good relation as European Union with
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our friends from Kuwait, from the United Arab Emirates and
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even with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
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And the idea is basically now after we have concluded a free
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trade agreement with Mercosur, with India, now the next plan is
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Australia and of course the Gulf Cooperation Council.
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Do you support such an agreement or should we include or exclude
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Qatar from such an agreement with the European Union?
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Qatar should be, should be sanctioned.
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First of all, the Qatari government should be sanctioned.
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European Union have their own standard operating procedures.
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How they could accept such a regime, A Qatari regime, an
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absolute monarchy system. One man Shaw, who agrees to wake
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up in the morning, he said OK, give Hamas 100 million.
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No one from the country can say to him no, because there's no
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constitution in Qatar. If you want to be friends of
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Qatar, then you have to correct Qatar.
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You have to make sure the the money is not coming against the
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European values. The money is not coming against
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the interests of United States, the interests of the existence
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of of Israel, which is a friend of European Union as well.
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So all of that has to be put into the consideration.
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I do support sanctions on the Qatari government.
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At least Qatari government would be transparent about how they're
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spending their money and where they're spending their money
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because it's been affecting the Qatari people.
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They've been stealing our wealth.
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No one can actually ask them where you've been spending the
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money. And the European Union doesn't
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really understand where this is going.
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For example, in Qatar have a lot of arms within the European
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Union. You've seen in how they
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converted the Spanish regime to be a pro Qatar all of the sudden
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and France and other in UK, they support all the Muslim
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Brotherhood NGOs. All of this is actually a big
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issue, a fundamental issue to be corrected.
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I'm not against the interest of my country, but I'm against the
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the approach my country is taking because no one is
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actually monitoring what they do it.
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If there was a constitutional monarchy system and there was
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laws on place to control the money, then we have no problem.
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If we say OK, if Qatar supported terrorism based on the agreement
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of every single person of Qatar a constitution, then you can say
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the Qatari regime and Qatari people want actually to sponsor
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Hamas. I want to sponsor terrorism.
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But now it's a one man show. He decide he's the one who write
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the he's the one who can say whatever he want to say and
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whatever he want to do. And that's our problem.
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We want to correct that. We want to fix the
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constitutional system in Qatar and we want to have to focus
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more in democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of freedom of
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religion, freedom of anything the Qatari people want to have.
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So for now we cannot participate in any political decisions.
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We cannot participate in any decisions of how we spend our
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money in Qatar or who we want to host.
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We don't want how much people in Qatar who decided to host, how
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much people in Qatar is one man. It's not us.
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So we don't want to have issues with Israel.
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We don't want Ireland to air strike us because of what they
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doing. We don't want that problems or
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what you want to live in peace and we want to be par of the
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future of Qatar. Tell me about your vision for
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governance of Qatar in the future.
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If you would be the Prime Minister or I don't know, the
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the the King of Qatar, how would you govern this country and how
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would you use this enormous resources and the enormous money
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which Qatar has? What would you do with this
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money? Would you also bribe European
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parliamentarians, US Congressmen by media and support terrorism?
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Or how would you run your country if you were in power?
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The first thing, the only reason for me to buy influence is
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because I'm doing something wrong.
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Qatar, because they keep doing wrong stuff, they want to cover
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it, so that's why they buy the influence.
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I don't need to buy my influence if I do good things and I don't
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criminalize my own people. I don't take their own rights.
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I would not find any problem with Europe.
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I would not find any problem with my own people and with the
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West. So for us, we do believe a
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constitutional monarchy system, we're going to work in Qatar.
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Because once you involve people in the power and participation
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of deciding the future of your own country, then everyone will
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be happy to be part of that country.
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Now why people has to go in exile to be part of the
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decisions of the government of Qatar?
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I can't wake up one day and for the king to decide that, OK,
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today I want to give Hamas $100 million.
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Nobody can question me. For us, even the Ministry of
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Ministry of Finance and Qatar, Central Bank of Doha, they have
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no standard operating procedure that is monitored by anyone.
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It's basically everything is covering each other the way the
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king wants and that's not what we want.
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Like I know Tamim on a personal level.
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I know Tamim like I am talking to you now.
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I understand his brain. I know the way he think.
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The only issue is Tamim. He's an angry man.
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He is very aggressive man. When it comes to a conversation,
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you don't want to listen. Even every Tuesday, royal
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family, people of Qatar, they go actually visit him in his own
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majlist. The way he deal with them, he
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don't respect him. He don't give them their own
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rights, their own royal family, complaining about how much small
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salaries they get in and why he's giving his own brothers and
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direct cousins much more money than what he gave to the normal
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royal families. The founder of families of
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Qatar. What people don't know that his
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own mother, Shekhar Mozza, her father, was the leader of Qatari
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opposition. They made peace in 1970.
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That's why his own father married Shekhar Mozza.
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They said, OK, we can live together again.
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The country can be united. Then within years, things
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started to come back to the same military. 1996.
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They said, OK, this is the new Qatar.
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The new Qatar will have a normal relationship with Israel.
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They invited Shimon Berez and Qatar at the same time.
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They was hiding Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, the mastermind of 911.
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There was giving him money, giving him salaries, and there
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was working against the American interest.
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In 99, we started to see different narratives.
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Al Jazeera started officially supporting people like Osama bin
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Laden. Who knew about Osama bin Laden?
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No one, only Qatar. Only the Qatar government knew
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how to go to his office. The way Qatari work is not
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actually based on diplomacy. Tamim could wake up now and say,
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oh, there is a conflict in Djibouti, let's go and mediate.
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But we don't have any role now. What can we do?
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Oh, let's kidnap, let's ask Taliban to kidnap some British
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citizens. And then we tell the the British
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people that we can mediate. So a lot of mediation happened
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recently. Is basically because Qatar have
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direct relationship with Taliban hostages from Britain.
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Even American journalist with the OK, before we used to accuse
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Qatar, for example, Qatar regime of having a close relationship
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with Al Nusra Front. In that time it was a terrorist
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organization which is currently ruling Syria.
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Qatar was denying, it said no, we didn't do anything.
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I was putting evidence, financial evidence.
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Qatar is giving them money, they support them.
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No one believed in the war. They said no, Qatar is just like
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this. What happened now?
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The whole world seen how Qatar pushed the narrative so strong
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with Americans. They put that guy in front of
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Trump, they put acceptance. Europe still didn't swallow Al
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Jolani the the the AL Nusra. Yes, they didn't swallow him
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until now yet. But Qatar working very hard for
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acceptance. Now we.
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Hoping for for him for Archolani in Syria.
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Did we prove now that Qatar been actually supporting Al Nusra
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Front? Yes, because Qatar put him
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actually in power. And now how could you accept a
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former ISIS member and leader of one of the biggest terrorist
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organization to change his abaya or thought to wear his own suit
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and being accepted by the West? So did he actually.
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It's terrible. Now he's killing the truce, he's
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killing the Olivia. He is a real disaster, Mr.
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Sholani in Syria, and this is with the money of Qatar.
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This is absolutely with the money of Qatar, with the
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influence of Qatar now, I warn the West.
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I've been warning Britain for a long time, if you don't stop the
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Muslim Brotherhood and you don't criminalize them in the West,
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your next Prime Minister will be grandson of the Muslim
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Brotherhood founder, will be the grandson of Osama bin Laden.
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You see now in Uka lot of councillors, a lot of mayors.
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They basically come from we're not racist.
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I'm not talking about racism. I'm talking about a country
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that's been run by its own people, but the democracy have
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been changed, it's been accepted.
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Even you cannot speak the the language, you have different
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value. You are applying to be a
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counselor, for example, or a mayor.
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And you say publicly on TV that you should not be friends with
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Christians and Jews because they would never accept you to be
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part of They will not accept you.
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At least you follow their own religion.
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This sort of messaging is anti western values.
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For me the same thing I think about the West.
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I thought about it in Qatar. What I didn't like in Doha is
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when you go to mosques like Sara Mosque, an industrial area, and
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you find people wearing like Taliban clothing with their own
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stick in my own country to protect that mosque, you show to
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the word that this country cannot protect themselves.
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Why you do that? So when you come to a W, can a
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normal English person or can a European person comes to Qatar
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next day and say I want to buy this mosque to convert it to a
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church? If you do that, you would be
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killed by the people of the people of Qatar.
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So why here Qatar sponsoring France and NGOs and mosques to
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buy churches to convert them to be mosques?
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You are provoking the society. If you don't know how to be
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friends of for the West, don't provoke the people.
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So don't work against their own value.
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It's their own country. Respect their religion, respect
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the way they live, respect their heritage the way they respect
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the way you want to live. So if they decided to be
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whatever they want to be. So at least tomorrow Qatar will
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get a say. Fine, we will do the same.
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You can buy our own mosque, you can buy our own base.
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We have no problem. But do not push that narrative
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and you don't accept it. So why Qatar against, for
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example controlling the mosques in UK and in Qatar they are
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controlling the mosques. So why you want to do something
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that why you're doing something you don't accept others to do?
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I'm not. I'm not here against the
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religion. I am Muslim myself.
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I am Muslim myself. I like my religion, but I don't
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support the Islamist eulogy and the terrorist eulogical thoughts
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that the Qatari governments are putting to the West and to the
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people. Qatari people are different than
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the Qatari government. I always say people say oh
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Qatari royal family, I can tell you Qatari royal family family
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is divided. The 30% of the Qatari royal
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family is pro Tamim because Tamim actually helping them.
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But don't forget it's coup after coup after coup.
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So they've been taking power from their own cousins until
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it's become divided. So there is other parts of the
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royal family. His own father was a king, his
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own cousin was a king and now being isolated.
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So the whole power become under the hand of Tamim and his father
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and his brothers and the direct cousins, direct uncles.
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That's it. And that is not how a country
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should be run. A country is not a militant.
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Qatar run Qatar as a militant groups.
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So if you want to run a constitutional monarchy system,
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you have to accept people to be part of it, not to be against
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the people. And that's what exactly I've
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been saying for a very long time.
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I hope the Qatari people, Qatari people actually realize that
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this is an actual problem. The only issue now we face that
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we cannot criticize the Emir of Qatar publicly in Qatar because
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it's a crime. For one point, you could go for
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to 15 years in prison and that is not fair.
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I mean, we was hoping the Parliament of Qatar will accept
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us to do such thing or such work.
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I mean, he's not God. He is not God.
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He can do mistakes. And we want to be able to
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criticize them because, you know, they're happy.
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Oh, for example, Qatar, I'm not happy.
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I'm opening an office in Somaliland.
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Office in Somaliland is representing actually the other
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part of Qatar. If you are not willing to
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compromise and to deal with people, then yes, catch our
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National Democratic Party. We will have our own government
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in exile. We will have our own Minister of
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Foreign affair. We're having our own minister of
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interior, we're having our own ambassadors.
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We have money. We have everything we want.
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If you have 1 billion, we have 1 billion.
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We don't care. We have the money, but at the
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same time, we will work hard against you to sanction your own
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money to participate. Example, if you have money
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outside, you will going to come after that money because that
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money belong to the Qatari people, not to you.
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And we want to make sure that this money basically is actually
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spent on the benefit and the interest of my own people and
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Qatar. That's jokes and and the Qatari
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government been doing for a long time and we're not going to go
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so easy now. Everything is changing, the
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world is changing. I always say they are, they
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don't know what's coming their own way.
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The Prime Minister of Qatar, I mean, this guy, he don't
28:20
understand anything in politics. I mean I know him on a personal
28:25
level and I can show you some videos from Qatar national TV
28:31
while me being interviewed alongside with him.
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He was nobody. He don't understand anything on
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the politics. All what he's doing now is
28:41
actually just repeating what have you want, what HPJ want,
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what HPK want. That's exactly what you have.
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He have no say in anything, so that's why he been choose to be
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a Prime Minister of Qatar. That's not what what what we
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want in Qatar, a constitutional monarchy system.
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We should have people that actually understand the
29:03
interests of of Qatar and that's what we are working towards.
29:06
Qatar's trying to show the West and the world we are a strong
29:10
country. People like us, people love us.
29:13
No, people don't like you. The first, the first trial, they
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failed. I tell you now, a lot of people
29:21
said in the in the in the media, there is no Qataria position.
29:25
It's just two people, Three people.
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No, you forgot what happened in 2017, 1819.
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How many royal family members spoke against the Qatari regime
29:37
on TV? Go do your homework.
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How many people now in jail in Qatar because they spoke the
29:43
truth? Now we've learned the lesson,
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the only tactics have changed. I told my people I'll protect
29:51
you this time. I don't want you to speak out on
29:54
media without protection. All what you need to do is
29:57
actually just be ready and prepared well, the moment the
30:01
Qatari regime is falling, you are the future of Qatar.
30:05
You participate in Qatar and we have no intention of any harming
30:10
or bloody coups or whatever, but we will definitely do it
30:16
constitutionally. And the way Qatar being
30:18
established at the 18501860, how they lied to us before because
30:25
Qatar was about two main families and two tribes.
30:29
Those tribes though, as was controlling the country, which
30:33
is Alma Alvid and Al Muhammadi. And then a lot of war happened
30:37
between them and Qatar. Their, their, their grandfather.
30:43
He came with the with the face of religious that he could do.
30:47
He knows better to teach us the religion and to teach our
30:51
people. And then how that's how our
30:53
people trusted him. We gave him the power, but not
30:57
to take over the country and to own it.
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Then what happened? They started to fight us.
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We are the other tribe. Our tribe is not less than their
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tribe. We have the same rights that
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they have and we have the same power as they have.
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If they want to have the country for their own self that is.
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That will not going to happen because my people will going to
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make sure that the future of Qatar, every single tribe will
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be part of it, including the AL Thanis and Al Maadi.
31:30
The tribe, yes. Let me ask you what the European
31:36
Union as a political entity. We are the democracies of Europe
31:40
and we of course want to promote democracy everywhere in the
31:43
world. Should we insist that Qatar has
31:46
free and fair and democratic elections, which is a
31:50
precondition for our trading relation?
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Do you think that we should strengthen and harden our policy
31:56
towards Qatar to transform Qatar into a democracy?
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I agree 100%. I would like, I'm actually
32:05
already working on a policy that we want to present to the
32:08
European Union and it will be presented very soon.
32:11
And that policy is actually speaking about the financial
32:15
flow of Qatar, the money and everything, and how we wanted to
32:21
be controlled. Not because we want to sanction
32:25
our own country, to not have money to be similar like Iran or
32:29
other countries, no, But we want the money to go on the right
32:32
way. We want it controlled and we
32:35
will do that. We will succeed at putting a lot
32:37
of pressure to the European Union, to the Americans, to a
32:42
lot of countries was held in Qatari investment to actually
32:46
sanction the Qatari government until we have a normal standard
32:50
operating procedure of how we could actually control the money
32:54
and the financials of the country.
32:56
Have you been already invited to the European Parliament?
32:59
Because, you know, we are very angry in Europe and that the
33:02
Qatari have bribed our members of the political system of the
33:06
European Parliament. We have not forgotten, we will
33:09
never forget this crime and we are very angry with the Qatar
33:12
government. So have you been already invited
33:15
and have you had contacts with the President of European
33:17
Parliament, with Mrs. Matsola or other political leaders?
33:21
So do you want to have this contact in the future?
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I will do have this contact and I want to have this contact.
33:27
The only issue I faced in the past that Qatar have a lot of
33:31
influence into the European Union parliaments.
33:34
Now game is changing. I'm not gonna let this go.
33:40
I mean, I will put my policy forward and I'll sit with them
33:44
and we will talk and we will push arise them in front of the
33:47
media, in front of the world. I will expose them.
33:50
If they are not willing to listen to the European Union, I
33:53
will expose them. They have to listen and to give
33:56
answers to what we want. If there's no answers, I mean,
34:00
look, we are not weak. If the European Union think that
34:03
we are weak and we cannot do things, that's actually wrong.
34:07
We have a lot of power and we will definitely go through this
34:12
and we will sit with them. If you're there willing to
34:15
listen voluntarily, we will go to that European Court to force
34:19
them to listen, and I'll do that.
34:23
Very good. Tomorrow there is in the White
34:25
House the meeting of Bibi Netanyahu and President Trump to
34:28
decide about the virtual core situation in Iran.
34:31
The Iranian government has killed up to 3040.
34:35
Some reports say 90,000 people have been killed only this year
34:39
by the suppression and the brutality of the Iranian
34:42
government against the people of Iran.
34:45
How do you see the situation in Iran?
34:47
What is your policy? Are you for regime change?
34:50
Do you support the Shah? What is your policy on Iran?
34:55
The Iranian regime should be There are a bunch of terrorists
35:02
and thieves and criminals who've been terrorizing their own
35:08
people for a very long time. They ruled Iran by the name of
35:14
God and there was lying by the name of God.
35:19
Iran should be back to what it was before.
35:24
I do believe the Shah and Rizabalovi, He is a very, very
35:31
good option for Iran because he's an open minded person and
35:38
he have a lot of support. I've seen a lot of the
35:42
opposition, other Iranian oppositions could be the
35:45
religious movements and other movements, but they don't have
35:49
the same support that Rizaballah we have.
35:52
So I do believe that Iran should change within because the
35:58
existence of the Iranian regime is danger and risk to Qatar, to
36:03
my own people. We don't want to have them
36:05
there. They are very dangerous people
36:08
and I'm sure that the economical of Iran will stripe the moment
36:14
the Iranian regime is gone. So the future now is in the hand
36:20
of the Iranian people. I'm not calling for violence,
36:24
but a revolution should happen and that's a must because the
36:28
language Iranian regime understand is violence.
36:32
They don't accept democracy, they don't accept to talk to
36:35
people, normal dialogue. So I hope that Iranian people
36:42
will succeed in freeing their own country from this terrorist
36:46
regime. You're already in contact with
36:49
Risa Paklavi or is any meetings planned in the future?
36:52
Because Risa Paklavi will come now, next week to Europe.
36:56
He will be at the Munich Security Conference.
36:58
There will be a largest demonstration in Munich now on
37:02
the next Saturday. So yes, I get.
37:04
A lot of opportunities maybe to get in touch and to express
37:08
solidarity and to build leadership network for change in
37:13
the Gulf region. Because if Iran is changing, I
37:16
think Qatar can change as well. And we will have a democratic
37:20
partner at the Gulf, in Qatar and in Iran in the future that
37:24
will be much better for the West and for Europe.
37:27
And we could hopefully achieve that in 2026.
37:31
Yes, I've been in touch with him.
37:33
He's a great man and a man who have a good vision.
37:38
I like his thoughts. I like the people work with him
37:41
as well. He definitely have a love for
37:44
his country and definitely respect my country as well.
37:49
And he understand that the existence of the Qatar, the the
37:54
Iranian regime now is a danger to the region and to the Iranian
37:58
people as well. That's why I am fully supporting
38:01
him and actually I help him. I will help him definitely to to
38:06
achieve his own goal. And that is very important
38:12
message that everyone should actually work toward it to
38:16
support the Shah. What's your hope when it comes
38:20
to American policy? Because America obviously is
38:22
very important partner of Qatar, has a big military base in
38:26
Qatar, and now President Trump is basically mobilizing a lot of
38:31
troops in the region. So my question is, what do you
38:33
want from America? Do you want support for
38:36
democracy? Or do you think this current
38:38
situation of massive influence buying and political buying of
38:43
Qatar in America is acceptable for the future?
38:47
I have a lot of contacts in America and very strong contact
38:51
in the White House as well, and people actually nearby Trump.
38:56
There is no doubt they do understand the Qatar government.
39:00
It's just they are actually using them now for to finalize
39:06
small things. They know they are dealing with
39:08
kids. You know, one one guy, very
39:11
senior American person told me, you know, you people are kids.
39:15
They are asking us to praise them to say nice things about
39:19
them in media or Qatar. This guy is a very nice man and
39:22
let me become red. This sort of policy, he's giving
39:25
it to them. Just give me what I want.
39:27
We give you what you want. So that's basically, I was
39:31
surprised that someone like Tamim is actually represents my
39:34
country with this own with this, with this ideology.
39:38
He'd been bombering Kochner through Aya Duadi.
39:42
He's been bothering him a lot. Or can he say nice things about
39:46
me? Can he say nice words about us?
39:49
Can they say, can they sign agreement to protect us?
39:53
That's the way Tabin thinks. I'm not joking.
39:55
That's the way he think. It's a disaster.
39:58
All what he want them to speak nice words about him.
40:01
And I've been saying, even before I was telling Tamim, I
40:04
said no. I mean, what do you want?
40:06
Oh, when, when, when, when you go here.
40:08
Please say nice words about me. I look nice.
40:11
I'm I'm handsome, I'm tall. I mean, what is this?
40:16
I mean, this sort of point. It's not it's wrong.
40:20
I mean, you are a king. You should you should you should
40:23
you should have your own words toward of whatever you want to
40:28
say and you have your own decision.
40:30
I always, you know, some people, sorry for what I would say, but
40:34
you know, a lot of times when I describe him, a man was hiding
40:39
under his mother's skirt. Not because I tried to decimate
40:42
his character, it's because of actually what he's saying.
40:45
Every time we want to have something, he say, oh, I speak
40:49
to my mother. I mean, come on.
40:51
What do you mean? You are a king now you have the
40:53
power. You have to decide.
40:56
In America, there's a lot of rumors and accusations, which I
40:59
cannot confirm, that Qatari is also buying a lot of influence
41:03
in social media and they are buying some of the MAGA
41:08
influencers, financing them. And also, you know, in the whole
41:12
airfare around Epstein, Qatar was also mentioned quite often.
41:17
What's your take on the situation?
41:18
Do you? Think that's true We, I
41:21
understand how they work in America.
41:23
We really know what they're doing in America very well.
41:26
I know who's they're buying. They're not buying.
41:28
They are renting people. They are renting because who
41:31
they are renting is anti Qatari values.
41:36
They can buy their silence for a small period of time, but when
41:40
the money stop, they will all turn against him and that's what
41:44
he's not realizing. So renting people policy is not
41:48
working anymore. Now in America I am doing a lot
41:53
of work, fundamental work that will change the existence of the
41:58
Qatar regime. Now they don't respect him,
42:02
don't think they are respecting him, They don't.
42:05
They basically what they doing is just giving them what they
42:08
want to finalize small like Gaza deal, Gaza seize the fire deal,
42:14
the Iranian talks and few other things.
42:17
You see I will not do anything until Netanyahu say sorry.
42:22
Who says that doing? Come on you are a king of
42:26
country. You say to Trump I cannot I
42:29
cannot mediate anymore with Hamas.
42:31
At least he say sorry. Netanyahu said give me the
42:33
phone. Oh sorry.
42:35
OK, next day they go. This is doesn't work like that
42:38
brother. This is not the way politics
42:40
work. We need a proper man and a
42:43
proper king to actually rule the country.
42:47
If they if they, if you have a problem, a diplomatic issue with
42:50
the country, you don't deal with it a childish way.
42:53
As for to say sorry and this is the media, I pay media money to
42:57
go write things about me that's wrong.
43:02
No, I hope that you will be one day the leader of Qatar, because
43:06
it's really changed what we need from terms of the Qatari policy
43:11
for the Qatari people, but also for the West, because such a
43:15
huge amount of money has a very nefarious influence on our
43:19
European politics, on the politics in America.
43:22
And I think this must change now, because this money should
43:25
be available for good purposes, infrastructure investments.
43:29
Qatar could be a real centre of global prosperity and could
43:34
really do so much good with all the fortunes you have, which
43:38
basically comes from global consumers which have to pay your
43:41
energy and then you abuse it. Your government is abusing it
43:46
for terrorism, for corruption, for influence peddling.
43:49
This is a big, big misallocation of resources and I can just hope
43:54
that you will very soon be the leader of Qatar and change all
43:58
these things. That hope is not a hope.
44:02
We are working toward it and we actually living as we already
44:07
took the power of Qatar. And I know exactly what's going
44:10
on. And I know certain, I'm 100%
44:14
certain this time this regime will fall.
44:18
And we are doing what what we're doing now is not basically
44:21
negotiating how the Qatari government would be changed.
44:25
We are thinking now already about the next step of what's
44:28
we're going to happen after. That's what we're going to
44:31
happen to change the regime. So there is a standard operating
44:35
procedure, There is a policy on place.
44:37
There is actually a work in progress.
44:39
And we will succeed this time. And thank you very much.
44:43
Mr. Qatar, I will also put Qatar on my list of hostile states,
44:47
which hopefully will be regime changed in 2026, because as you
44:52
know, maybe from my Twitter feed, I'm working intensively
44:55
for Russia to change. Iran must be regime change.
44:59
And also Qatar must in a package, basically also have a
45:04
new leadership and a new democratic future for the
45:08
Qataris and for the whole region and for the whole world, because
45:12
the nefarious this kind of terrorism by funding and
45:17
influenced by must end. And I hope your leadership will
45:21
start already to contribute to this change in 2026.
45:25
I want to thank you very much for coming to the current show.
45:29
If you have a last statement, please, you are welcome.
45:32
And then we will conclude the show.
45:34
My statement just for the Qatari people and I would like to say
45:40
to them that they don't need to worry, they don't need to have
45:44
any fear from the Qatari government.
45:47
Everything will going to be run the way they want and things
45:51
will going to run very smoothly and for their own favor.
45:56
We Europeans want a democratic Qatar, which is part of the free
46:00
world, allied to us, and we will also be allied to you, the
46:04
Qatari people. And we want you to live in
46:07
freedom, prosperity, security, and to be friends with Europe.
46:11
And thanks a lot for this talk, Mr. Thank you very much as.
46:14
For your struggle for freedom and thanks for joining Quinta
46:18
Show. Thank you very much.
46:22
Thank you.