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The Rita Panahi Show | 17 November · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scynelds Ostrodia.
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Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panety Show.
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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show coming
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Speaker 3: up tonight. The Liberals abandoned at zero and now there
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Speaker 3: are reports that moderates and the party are abandoning leaders
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Speaker 3: as in League. Colleen Harken and Michael Danby will be
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Speaker 3: here to discuss that shortly and much more. I'll speak
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Speaker 3: to Liberal MP Andrew Wallace about the party's.
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Speaker 4: Leadership clothes, and we will get his.
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Speaker 3: Response to Jim Chalmer's astonishing attack against the party. Josh
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Speaker 3: Hammer will have the latest from the US, including revelations
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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein fotted with the Democrats to get Donald Trump
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Speaker 3: and Kinziscofiel would join the program for the latest oral
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Speaker 3: and entertainment news Left he is losing it.
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Speaker 4: We never missed that. It will be fact checking.
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Speaker 3: MSNBC hysteric Lawrence o'donald's paranoid fantasies.
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Speaker 5: Jd Vance is doing exactly what Gerald Ford did while
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Speaker 5: the Nixon presidents. He was sinking.
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Speaker 3: But first, the belated decision by the Liberals to dumbn
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Speaker 3: it zero may have a disastrous conclusion for opposition leader
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Speaker 3: Susan Lee, with a growing number of moderate Liberal MPs
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Speaker 3: pulling their support for Lee and backing Andrew Hasty. Senior
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Speaker 3: moderates told The Daily Mail that a majority of MPs
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Speaker 3: in the faction would have voted for Hasty against Lee
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Speaker 3: if a ballot were held this week.
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Speaker 4: Moderates have apparently had enough of Lee's.
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Speaker 3: Week leadership and her hesitancy to take a firm stance
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Speaker 3: on the issue. One moderate said Lee didn't dance with
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Speaker 3: those who brought her, so we are moving on. Another
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Speaker 3: said we have reached a point where radical change is necessary,
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Speaker 3: and another said, even if it's Hasty, that's better than
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Speaker 3: a leader that stands for nothing. But moderates and Rustin
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Speaker 3: and Maria Kovichik have come to Susan Lee's defense, releasing
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Speaker 3: a joint statement saying the reports are incorrect and we,
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Speaker 3: along with an overwhelming majority about moderate colleagues, continue to
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Speaker 3: strongly support Susan's leadership.
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Speaker 4: Joining me now for more on this is Institute of.
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Speaker 3: Public Affairs Research fellow Colleen Harken and former Labor MP
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Speaker 3: Michael Danby.
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Speaker 4: Colin, I'll start with you.
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Speaker 3: This is typical behavior from the bedwetters. They only destabilize
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Speaker 3: and undermine. Now they appear to be fighting amongst themselves.
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Speaker 4: The moderates are fighting amongst themselves.
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Speaker 6: It's not surprising though. I mean, the issue here is
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Speaker 6: that for the last two elections Liberals have gone to
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Speaker 6: the constituents with no fight in them about this whole
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Speaker 6: net zero thing, and Susan Laers sort of tried to
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Speaker 6: play the role of being everything to everyone, which means
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Speaker 6: that you're in no man's land. You're not standing for
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Speaker 6: anything for anyone. So the internal machinations of how this
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Speaker 6: is going to work out don't surprise me. Andrew Hasty
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Speaker 6: has shown leadership and it shows that if you show
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Speaker 6: strong leadership and you show conviction that peace, people will follow.
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Speaker 6: People will join behind you, and the average person in
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Speaker 6: Australia actually just wants reliable, affordable energy. They don't know
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Speaker 6: what zero even means. I think they think it means
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Speaker 6: something about climate, but don't really understand that it has
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Speaker 6: the impact on high prices, weaken industry and has no
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Speaker 6: impact on climate issues. So the issue now is for
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Speaker 6: the Liberals to go out and sell it, explain it
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Speaker 6: to people, and sell it hard to have any chance
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Speaker 6: of actually getting getting through with why they've changed his policy,
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Speaker 6: and all power to them for doing it was the
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Speaker 6: right thing to do well, took the.
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Speaker 3: Long time to get there, just like the voice. But
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Speaker 3: you're right, most Australians probably don't know the impact net
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Speaker 3: zero policies have because they haven't had a major political
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Speaker 3: party actually prosecute the case.
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Speaker 4: Michael.
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Speaker 3: In my mind, Andrew Hasty is a formidable opponent. Do
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Speaker 3: you think Labor would be more concerned with a Hasty
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Speaker 3: lead coalition than a Susan leak let coalition?
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Speaker 7: Claim they're looking forward to a Hasty leadership and I
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Speaker 7: think they've made a big mistake if they do. Look
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Speaker 7: no net zero people in the Liberal Party have a
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Speaker 7: majority already. If a few moderates join them, whoever is
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Speaker 7: the alternative to Susan lay will easily win. But the
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Speaker 7: problem is will there be no contest between Angus Taylor
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Speaker 7: and Andrew Hasty? Will they agree on a joint ticket?
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Speaker 7: I must say my experience of Angus Taylor is he
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Speaker 7: just doesn't cut through. Hasty has one problem that is
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Speaker 7: that comment on immigration, which is falsely portrayed by the
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Speaker 7: Labor Party's opposition to immigration. But what it's very useful
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Speaker 7: to disguising is their campaign against the Chinese vote, the
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Speaker 7: Chinese Australian vote, so they think that he's very vulnerable
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Speaker 7: on that. It's a big problem for the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 7: How do they get around what happened to people like
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Speaker 7: mister Wallahan and Mensies.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, that is a growing demographic. But I
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Speaker 3: think broadly Andrew Hasty's comments about immigration would be enormously popular.
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Speaker 4: So there's also that to consider.
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Speaker 3: And again I think like net zero, probably even more
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Speaker 3: so than at zero, Colleen, that is an issue where
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Speaker 3: the Australian public really haven't had to say. Poll after
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Speaker 3: the poll says that majority of Australians want to see
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Speaker 3: some dramatic reductions in immigration, and yet both sides are
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Speaker 3: continuing with this big Australia mindset. Even if the Libs
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Speaker 3: targets are a little bit lower than labor, they're still fairly hefty.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, And look, the average just Tonian has
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Speaker 6: shown their voice in all of those marches that have
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Speaker 6: been around the country.
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Speaker 4: They're not anti immigration.
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Speaker 6: They make it very clear that their anti.
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Speaker 4: Unplanned and mass immigration.
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Speaker 6: I think it's a very easy clarification to make if
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Speaker 6: you get the lines right. People are not anti immigration,
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Speaker 6: they're just simply this sort of thousands of people who
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Speaker 6: are arriving and we don't have the infrastructure to cope
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Speaker 6: with it at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Now it has been revealed almost five hundred Australians attended
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Speaker 3: the COP thirty talk fest in Brazil this year. Among
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Speaker 3: them was of course, Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen,
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Speaker 3: who has been pushing for Australia to host next year's
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Speaker 3: COP thirty one conference in Adelaide.
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Speaker 4: Michael, what can I say?
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Speaker 3: This seems like a monumental waste of taxpayer money.
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Speaker 7: Congratulations to the people at Sky have exposed this. Five
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Speaker 7: hundred people going all the way from Australia to a
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Speaker 7: climate alarm conference. You couldn't write a script like it
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Speaker 7: out of Monty Python. It's outrageous if government and other
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Speaker 7: institutions money has been used, just as you suggest, reader,
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Speaker 7: And I'd also like to know how many of these
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Speaker 7: people are took holidays to Machu Pichu after they finished
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Speaker 7: with their pop conference.
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Speaker 4: That is a very great you did.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 3: You're coming in through on zoom right now and I
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Speaker 3: think if you can do it, I don't know why
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Speaker 3: they can't and these are people who are obsessed with
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Speaker 3: global warming Colleen, So you would think that had be
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Speaker 3: very motivated not to get on a plane. But talking
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Speaker 3: about waste of tax pay money and Aboriginal academic has
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Speaker 3: criticized the Albanese government's so called First Nations People ambassador
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Speaker 3: after he received a new contract extension which will see him.
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Speaker 4: Paid four hundred thousand dollars a year.
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Speaker 3: In his first twenty months in the job, Ambassador Justin
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Speaker 3: Muhammad and Maston oversees travel.
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Speaker 4: Bill of more than two hundred and fifty thousand.
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Speaker 3: That's on top of his sizeable salary that included trips
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Speaker 3: to Switzerland he went there three times, five trips to
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Speaker 3: the US and many visits to Pacific Island nations. Aboriginal
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Speaker 3: academic and human rights lawyer Hannah mclade told The Daily
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Speaker 3: Telegraph that the ambassador role had a documented history of
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Speaker 3: extensive and expensive travel and hotels without proof of real
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Speaker 3: outcomes to improve the lives of Aboriginal people Colleen. She
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Speaker 3: also claimed it was promoting a positive image of Australia
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Speaker 3: on the global stage, contrary to the evidence about the
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Speaker 3: government's failure on closing the gap.
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Speaker 4: How do you see this role.
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Speaker 3: It's always confused me. It's always confused me what even
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Speaker 3: the purpose of this role is.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure what the purpose is, and I'm
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Speaker 6: very confused about what a first nation's ambassador has to
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Speaker 6: do with foreign policies and visiting all of these countries.
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Speaker 6: The other thing is that apparently has an office of
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Speaker 6: ten staff, so there's a lot of money that's been
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Speaker 6: channeled into this, and I'd.
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Speaker 4: Like to see what are the KPIs, what is the
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Speaker 4: performance standard and what.
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Speaker 6: Is it actually supposed to achieve because we talk a
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Speaker 6: lot about closing the gap, but I don't see any
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Speaker 6: relevance between this and actually on the ground issues with
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Speaker 6: Aboriginal communities.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Michael, Why do we need.
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Speaker 3: A first nation's people ambassador to be globe trotting around
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Speaker 3: the world And how can their message on foreign affairs
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Speaker 3: be any different to the Foreign Affairs minister. Why would
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Speaker 3: we have two competing messages coming out of Australia.
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Speaker 7: People like this and our e Safety Commissioner, who's spent
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Speaker 7: nearly five hundred thousand dollars on international travel, are going
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Speaker 7: to blow up in the face of the government at
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Speaker 7: some point. The government should get control of all of
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Speaker 7: these people and restrict their budgets to what might be
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Speaker 7: reasonable for an our Aboriginal ambassador. If we have to
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Speaker 7: have one good point reader, a few people on the
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Speaker 7: Pacific Islands might need to see him personally, but the
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Speaker 7: You and Human Rights Council in Geneva doesn't need to
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Speaker 7: see him three times a year. It's a scam. And
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Speaker 7: you know, all of us are in favor of Indigenous
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Speaker 7: people being treated equally, but I think it's sort of
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Speaker 7: as that Aboriginal academic has pointed out, it denigrates the
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Speaker 7: whole issue to have a bloke spending money like this,
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Speaker 7: being paid like this, just as it does with a
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Speaker 7: safety commissioner.
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Speaker 3: To Victoria now, where a convicted murderer has fired legal
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Speaker 3: action against the Department of Justice for taking away his
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Speaker 3: right to eat vega mite. Yes, Andre mckenchie says he
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Speaker 3: was refused vegemite and he claims it's a breach.
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Speaker 4: Of his human rights because it's denying you.
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Speaker 3: As Australian culture Michael Shadow. Corrections Minister David Southweik has
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Speaker 3: slammed the legal action, saying prison cells aren't meant to
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Speaker 3: act as hotels. How do you see this consequential issue.
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Speaker 7: This is plainly ridiculous. We should have magistrates and judges
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Speaker 7: enforcing the existing laws of Victoria, not going soft on
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Speaker 7: people with ridiculous claims like this. This is an example
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Speaker 7: of the woke madness of the prison system and the
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Speaker 7: Victorian legal system in general. You know we should. Now
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Speaker 7: we've got a premier who promised to take the masks
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Speaker 7: off these people who are terrifying people in the city
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Speaker 7: still and the police have to politely go up to
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Speaker 7: them and say, well, could you please take that mask off?
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Speaker 7: Of course it won't happen, so it's an empty promise,
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Speaker 7: just like the machete bins and all of the soft
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Speaker 7: treatment of the legal system that the current Victorian government
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Speaker 7: is proceeding with them. The people that affects the worst
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Speaker 7: are the poor people of Victoria, people who are not
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Speaker 7: on high incomes, who this labor government is meant to
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Speaker 7: stand up for, not all of its socialists left woke nonsense.
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Speaker 3: Well, crime is shaping up to be a major issue
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Speaker 3: at the next state election.
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Speaker 4: Here.
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Speaker 3: Do you think the premiere has one some ground with
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Speaker 3: these new tough youth laws with the adult crime adult
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Speaker 3: time though they are when you look at the detail
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Speaker 3: fairly flaky. The s them to be some major loopholes
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Speaker 3: formatt for judges to get around that.
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Speaker 5: Well.
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Speaker 6: I think that's the thing is that Professor Murco wrote
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Speaker 6: an article the other day that said a knife hurts
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Speaker 6: whether it's come from a sixteen year old or a
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Speaker 6: forty five year old. The issue is the law exists,
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Speaker 6: and the labor appointed judges in the county Court, who
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Speaker 6: may well hear these cases is applying supposed to apply
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Speaker 6: the law the same. So it's not about tweaking at
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Speaker 6: the edges. There is wholesale reform that's required. And Jacinta
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Speaker 6: Allen has taken a long time to actually take some
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Speaker 6: of these issues seriously, and I think she's still just
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Speaker 6: sort of trying to tweak and smoke and mirrors. I
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Speaker 6: don't think the actual issue of what's going on is
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Speaker 6: genuinely being addressed.
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Speaker 3: Yep, Michael danby Colleen Hark and thank you so much
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Speaker 3: for your time joining me now.
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Speaker 4: Is a Liberal MP Andrew Wallace? Andrew give my audience.
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Speaker 3: Some clarity on how united the Liberals are behind the
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Speaker 3: coalition's decision to dumb net zero. We know there are
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Speaker 3: a number of MPs who back net zero. We've had
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Speaker 3: the likes of Andrew Bragg threatened to quit the opposition
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Speaker 3: front bench if net zero is dropped. He's still there.
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Speaker 3: How fractured is the party right now?
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Speaker 4: Well, Rita, thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 9: This has been a pretty long process, as you know,
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Speaker 9: more than six months. Dantem's done a terrific job and
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Speaker 9: pulling everybody together.
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Speaker 4: We've had multiple meetings.
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Speaker 9: Look, of course you're always going to get some people
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Speaker 9: that are on the edges that might not be particularly
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Speaker 9: happy one way or the other. But as a rule,
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Speaker 9: as a group, the Liberal Party and the National Party
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Speaker 9: is united on our new energy policy, part of which
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Speaker 9: is to dumb net zero by twenty fifty.
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Speaker 3: Now, we spoke earlier in the show about a number
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Speaker 3: of moderates abandoning Susan lead. There has been reports of that.
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Speaker 3: Today they're claiming they would back back Andrew Hasty in
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Speaker 3: a leadership challenge, and some of those critiquing the opposition leader, well,
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Speaker 3: they were pretty brutal with the claims that she stands
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Speaker 3: for nothing and that she's weak on policy. Do you
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Speaker 3: think Susan Lee will be leading the opposition at the
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Speaker 3: next election, Yeah, like I do.
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Speaker 9: I think Susan is doing a very good job under
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Speaker 9: very difficult circumstances. It's very difficult for anybody to step
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Speaker 9: into the breach otter two pretty significant electoral defeats. It's tough.
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Speaker 9: It's the toughest job in politics as being the federal
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Speaker 9: opposition leader. There's a lot of scrutiny. But I think
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Speaker 9: she's doing a very good job. She is cool and
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Speaker 9: calm under pressure.
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Speaker 4: I don't think there.
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Speaker 9: Would be too many people that would be able to
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Speaker 9: have the composure that Susan Lee has demonstrated over the
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Speaker 9: last six months.
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Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about the Treasurer. Jim Chalmers has been
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Speaker 3: scathing of the Liberals and their decision to dump a
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Speaker 3: net zero.
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Speaker 4: This is what he had to say.
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Speaker 10: Susan Lee has caved to the smirking crackpots and cookers
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Speaker 10: in her own party. Now, this is not some temporary
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Speaker 10: phase that they're going through. This is not some temporary
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Speaker 10: lurch to the right. Over recent years, this coalition has
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Speaker 10: become a party of extremists and Australians would pay a
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Speaker 10: very hefty price for that extremeism.
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Speaker 3: Well there you go, smirking crackpots, cookers and extremists.
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Speaker 4: How do you respond to that retro.
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Speaker 9: We must be doing something right, reader, We must be
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Speaker 9: doing something wrong to be that exercised. We should be
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Speaker 9: because I'll tell you what, twenty seven million Australians have
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Speaker 9: had a gutfull of this government's demands to ensuring that
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Speaker 9: we meet their net zero emissions targets. Australians are paying
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Speaker 9: through the nose for their energy bills. Whether it's mums
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Speaker 9: and dads with their household bills or businesses like Tomago
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Speaker 9: and everybody in between, Australians are paying far too much
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Speaker 9: money for their electricity. This is a government that said
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Speaker 9: that we would be paying two hundred and seventy five
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Speaker 9: dollars less for our energy bills, and just for mums
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Speaker 9: and dads, we're paying one thousand.
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Speaker 7: Dollars more for our energy bills.
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Speaker 9: That's on top of the knock on flow on effects
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Speaker 9: that everybody's experiencing as a result of higher energy, whether
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Speaker 9: it's supermarkets, butchers, bakers. I had a baker in my
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Speaker 9: electric the other day telling me that just to pay
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Speaker 9: his electricity bill, he's got to sell eight hundred loaves
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Speaker 9: of bread just to pay his electricity bill. Had another
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Speaker 9: convenience owner say his energy bills have gone up by
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Speaker 9: sixty two percent from the previous year. There's only so
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Speaker 9: much that businesses can pass those costs down to their consumers,
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Speaker 9: and of course most can't, so the consumers are having
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Speaker 9: to pick up the tab for this. But I think
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Speaker 9: Australians are starting to wake up to this lot and
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Speaker 9: I think we can see from the likes of Jim
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Speaker 9: Charmer's response that they are quite worried.
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Speaker 3: Well they should be worried because we can finally have
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Speaker 3: a debate about this. We've had two elections now when
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Speaker 3: the Australian people really haven't had a choice. And I
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Speaker 3: think Andrew, when Australians are given the choice between lower
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Speaker 3: prices and lower emissions, they pick lower prices every single time.
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Speaker 3: I think it's just shameful the state we're in this country,
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Speaker 3: where we've got working people who are too scared to
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Speaker 3: turn on their air conditioners in summer or their heaters
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Speaker 3: and winter. Now, I want to ask you about law
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Speaker 3: and order before you go. You've spoken out about Labour's
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Speaker 3: push too we can bail laws at a time when
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Speaker 3: violent crime is rising across the country. You say the
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Speaker 3: government is out of touch.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, Rita I mean this morning we saw the Prime
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Speaker 9: Minister talking and extolling the virtues of the Victorian Labor
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Speaker 9: parties plan to crack down on crime. The Prime Minister
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Speaker 9: today said, you know, all Australians want is to feel secure. Well,
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Speaker 9: how about this for mixed messages. Just on Friday morning,
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Speaker 9: the Attorney General Michelle Rowland was trying to convince her
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Speaker 9: state and territory counterparts to weaken bail laws. So you
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Speaker 9: know what is it. Are we trying to weaken bail
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Speaker 9: laws under this federal government or as the Prime Minister
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Speaker 9: now saying that actually Australians want to feel safer and
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Speaker 9: secure in their own homes. You can't have it both ways,
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Speaker 9: Prime Minister.
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Speaker 3: Well so, Andrew Wallace, thank you so much for your
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Speaker 3: time tonight. Now it's time for lefties losing it and
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Speaker 3: let's start with the mad ratings of MSNBC. Lawrence o'donald,
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Speaker 3: who is now just reporting his paranoid fantasies as facts here,
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Speaker 3: seems to think that the Trump presidency is in its
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Speaker 3: final dark days.
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Speaker 5: JD Vance is doing exactly what Gerald Ford did while
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Speaker 5: the Nixon presidents. He was sinking and Richard Nixon was
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Speaker 5: under increasing pressure over several months that led to his resignation.
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Speaker 5: Jerald Ford said nothing. When things were the darkest for
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Speaker 5: President Richard Nixon, Vice President Gerald Ford said nothing. And
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Speaker 5: when Richard Nixon resigned the presidency, vice President Ford said,
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Speaker 5: our long national nightmare is over tonight. Jd Vance is
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Speaker 5: silent tonight. Jd Vance is Gerald Ford.
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Speaker 3: One problem with that rad well, several problems actually, including
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Speaker 3: it is stark raving mad. But far from saying nothing,
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Speaker 3: Vice President jd Vance has been speaking, and he has
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Speaker 3: been doing inter views daily. As he noted himself, I
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Speaker 3: did two media interviews literally today.
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Speaker 4: Well done, Lawrence, your absolute cloud show. Now let's go
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Speaker 4: to see Ann.
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Speaker 3: And here from Marjorie Taylor Green, who seems to be
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Speaker 3: a changed woman since she appeared on the view. Maybe
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Speaker 3: they put something in her drink, because this is concerning
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Speaker 3: what are you doing?
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Speaker 4: MTG.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry for taking part in the toxic politics. It's
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Speaker 1: very bad for our country and it's been something I've
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Speaker 1: thought about a lot, especially since Charlie Kirk was assassinated,
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Speaker 1: is that I'm only responsible for myself and my own
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Speaker 1: words and actions, and I am going. I am committed,
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Speaker 1: and I've been working on this a lot lately to
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Speaker 1: put down the knives and politics. I really just want
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Speaker 1: to see people be kind to one another.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what's happening there. What is she doing?
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Speaker 3: She's apologized on CNN for her retric. Really, as Matt
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Speaker 3: Walsh noted, leftists celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder and then elected
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Speaker 3: an attorney general who openly fantasizes about killing us and
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Speaker 3: our children, and our Republicans are going on CNN to
21:17
Speaker 3: apologize for their toxic rhetric. What the hell is going on?
21:22
Speaker 3: What the hell indeed do better, Marjorie? Now Here is
21:25
Speaker 3: Bill Maher giving his fellow lefties a quick history lesson
21:29
Speaker 3: in what happens when you embrace the failed doctrine of socialism.
21:34
Speaker 11: Here's capitalist South Korea at Nate from space. Here's socialist
21:38
Speaker 11: North Korea. Yeah, in nineteen ninety, Venezuela was wealthier than Poland.
21:45
Speaker 11: But then Poland finally free of Soviet style economics when
21:48
Speaker 11: all in on capitalism, and now their economy is as
21:51
Speaker 11: big as Japan and people there have high wages, low inflation,
21:55
Speaker 11: cars Ecasions Holmes. Meanwhile, Venezuela traded capitalism for Hugo Chavez's
22:02
Speaker 11: Socialism for the twenty first Century, which turned out to
22:05
Speaker 11: be like socialism in the Last Injury or Any Century
22:09
Speaker 11: mess It turned one of Latin America's richest countries into
22:19
Speaker 11: one of its poorest, low wages, high inflation, shortages, outages,
22:24
Speaker 11: eight million people fleeing. If you think New York can
22:27
Speaker 11: somehow reinvent this wheel, you're in for a rude.
22:30
Speaker 3: Awokening, well, said Bill Maher. But I think he knows
22:34
Speaker 3: as well as I do that they're not going to.
22:36
Speaker 4: Listen to him. Now, it's clear that CNN.
22:38
Speaker 3: Doesn't want to join CBS and ABC in cutting Donald
22:42
Speaker 3: Trump a massive eight figure check for deliberately defaming him.
22:47
Speaker 3: Watch this disclaimer before a question.
22:49
Speaker 12: Was asked that mentioned the president, and we do want
22:52
Speaker 12: to be clear the President Trump did not receive or
22:55
Speaker 12: send any of the messages which Larlie predated his time
22:58
Speaker 12: as president. He's not been accused of many criminal wrongdoing
23:01
Speaker 12: in connection with Epstein or Maxwell.
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Speaker 4: Was very thorough.
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Speaker 3: Indeed, it really wasn't a point asking the question after
23:09
Speaker 3: all that. Now, let's go back to MSNBC, the mental
23:12
Speaker 3: health asylum masquading as a news network and Jensaki was
23:16
Speaker 3: quick to correct herself after a defamatory comment about the President,
23:20
Speaker 3: labeling him a predator.
23:23
Speaker 12: In supporting what Donald Trump is doing, you're talking about
23:26
Speaker 12: the other predators out there in addition to Trump.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying he is. We don't know
23:31
Speaker 4: all the details about that.
23:32
Speaker 1: I just mean, in addition to what we've learned about
23:34
Speaker 1: Epstein and others, there's other predators out there.
23:37
Speaker 4: Are still to come.
23:39
Speaker 3: Revelations Jeffrey Epstein plotted with the Democrats to get Donald Trump.
23:44
Speaker 4: Josh Hammer will join me next. Welcome back.
23:56
Speaker 3: Let's talk more about the latest Jeffrey Epstein revelations.
24:00
Speaker 4: Now, the real scandal here is not the.
24:02
Speaker 3: Fake, manufactured narratives pushed by the increasingly desperate Democrats who
24:07
Speaker 3: redacted already released information to make it appear as if
24:11
Speaker 3: Donald Trump had spent hours with a mystery Epstein victim.
24:15
Speaker 4: But that victim was known and widely reported on.
24:18
Speaker 3: It was a Virginia Giuffrey who made it clear repeatedly
24:22
Speaker 3: that Donald Trump had done nothing wrong. She said that repeatedly,
24:25
Speaker 3: she wrote it in her memoir, and most importantly, she
24:28
Speaker 3: submitted sworn testimony to the court saying just that, but
24:32
Speaker 3: the Democrats redacted her name in the email to make
24:36
Speaker 3: it appear that this was some new scandal. The real
24:39
Speaker 3: story is a convicted sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein, plotting with
24:44
Speaker 3: the Democrats to get Donald Trump. Yes, the pedophile and
24:48
Speaker 3: staunch Democrat was even feeding questions to a House Democrat
24:51
Speaker 3: during eight twenty nineteen congressional hearing. The other story is
24:56
Speaker 3: discredited author Michael Wolfe plotting with Epstein to get TRUP up.
25:00
Speaker 4: That's what those emails reveal. And why did Jeffrey Epstein
25:04
Speaker 4: hate Donald Trump so much? Well, it's not just.
25:07
Speaker 3: Because Epstein was a prolific Democrat donor, but as Michael
25:11
Speaker 3: Wolfe himself admitted, Epstein suspected that Trump had reported him
25:16
Speaker 3: to the authorities.
25:18
Speaker 13: At that point, Epstein's legal problems began. The police began
25:23
Speaker 13: to investigate him over allegations that he was that there
25:30
Speaker 13: were underage women coming to his house. Epstein believed that
25:35
Speaker 13: it was Trump who first informed the police about what
25:39
Speaker 13: was going on at Epstein's house, and from that point
25:44
Speaker 13: on they were nothing but bitter enemies.
25:48
Speaker 14: And this is what he's telling you.
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Speaker 8: This is one of the instances of what he's telling
25:51
Speaker 8: you that yes.
25:53
Speaker 3: Joining me now is Newsweek's senior editor at Large and
25:56
Speaker 3: Article three Projects Senior Council, Josh Hammer. Josh, this is
26:00
Speaker 3: an enormous scandal the Democrats working with Epstein, a known
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Speaker 3: sex offender, to get Donald Trump.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
26:09
Speaker 15: Read everything that you need to know about the story
26:12
Speaker 15: is based on the relevant timeline, which is that Democrats
26:15
Speaker 15: had some mild success in the off off your elections
26:18
Speaker 15: about two weeks ago at this point in New York City,
26:20
Speaker 15: New Jersey and Virginia and then inexplicably. But on the
26:24
Speaker 15: other hand, it gets entirely predictably. They caved on the
26:26
Speaker 15: shutdown fight, like they totally caved. I mean, Chuck Schumer
26:29
Speaker 15: epically capitulated. There.
26:30
Speaker 4: It is.
26:30
Speaker 15: It is the irony of all ironies. He was fighting
26:32
Speaker 15: this shutdown fight. He tried to forestall an AOC primary
26:35
Speaker 15: challenge in his New York Center race in three years now,
26:38
Speaker 15: the let's all angry at him. So in order to
26:40
Speaker 15: try to get the momentum back in their favor, in
26:42
Speaker 15: order to try to divert attention from the victorious Republicans
26:45
Speaker 15: and to try to bring the spotlight back to how
26:47
Speaker 15: Democrats are allegedly doing something fill in the blank there.
26:51
Speaker 15: You know, mysteriously, these these twenty thousand emails magically appear. Look,
26:57
Speaker 15: my humble opinion is that the Epstein story ranks probably
26:59
Speaker 15: somewhere over in the fortieth and fiftieth most and most
27:01
Speaker 15: important story to the American people. I think the fact
27:03
Speaker 15: that Democrats are resorting to this frankly reeks of desperation.
27:07
Speaker 15: It's not just hit hypocrisy and desperation, though, it is
27:10
Speaker 15: frankly just astounding that anyone would take them at their word.
27:14
Speaker 15: To be clear, there were horrific, horrific, detestable loads of
27:17
Speaker 15: some of the worst crimes that you can even imagine
27:19
Speaker 15: occurred in this horrific, horrific case roughly two decades or so,
27:23
Speaker 15: give or take there, and everyone wants justice for the victims.
27:26
Speaker 15: But it's hard to take these same Democrats seriously, rita,
27:29
Speaker 15: when we know that there was one particular president who
27:32
Speaker 15: was much much closer Jeffrey Epstein than Donald Trump, who,
27:34
Speaker 15: by the way, kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of Mara Lago
27:37
Speaker 15: as White House Press Secretary Caroline Levied was quick to
27:39
Speaker 15: note this past week and that Democrat president was very,
27:42
Speaker 15: very chummy with Jeffrey Epstein. The noted Democrat donor was
27:45
Speaker 15: Bill Clinton. Huh, funny you should ask. I don't see
27:48
Speaker 15: ro Kahan or any of these other House Democratic leaders, Hakim,
27:51
Speaker 15: Jeffreyes none. There are talking about Bill Clinton's various trips
27:54
Speaker 15: on the so called the low Leader express, Jeffrey Epstein's
27:57
Speaker 15: private plane.
27:58
Speaker 7: Why is that?
27:58
Speaker 15: I think the American people see through this readA They
28:01
Speaker 15: see this is a innakedly political stunt there. Donald Trump, yes,
28:05
Speaker 15: he knew Jeffy Epstein. Guess what, so did a lot
28:07
Speaker 15: of people. A lot of very powerful, very prime people
28:10
Speaker 15: knew Jeffrey Epstein. The fact that he was corresponding to him,
28:12
Speaker 15: frankly means absolutely nothing whatsoever in my judgment there, this
28:16
Speaker 15: is a pure political stunt. The American people are going
28:18
Speaker 15: to see right through it.
28:18
Speaker 1: I think.
28:21
Speaker 3: Well, just finally on the Democrats' links with Jeffrey Epstein,
28:25
Speaker 3: The New York Posts are reported that Epstein was feeding
28:28
Speaker 3: questions to Stacey Plaskett during a twenty nineteen congressional hearing,
28:33
Speaker 3: giving her real time help on how to damaged President
28:38
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. And there also reports that Epstein was in
28:41
Speaker 3: meetings with Obama White House counsel Katherine Rumler, tell me
28:47
Speaker 3: about that connection.
28:48
Speaker 4: What's that about.
28:50
Speaker 15: Well, it's actually potentially even worse than that. So there
28:52
Speaker 15: was one of the Look, they're twenty thousand emails, so
28:55
Speaker 15: there's a lot that comes up there. But there was
28:56
Speaker 15: actually a potentially even more interesting email than this that
28:59
Speaker 15: I saw involving Brock Obama. That's why I thought of it,
29:01
Speaker 15: and this email has to do I'm trying to remember
29:04
Speaker 15: which election cycle was. I think it was the twenty
29:06
Speaker 15: sixteen election cycle, and there was an email from from
29:10
Speaker 15: Epstein talking about how Barack Now he misspelled that there
29:14
Speaker 15: there were there were two hours, not what so it
29:16
Speaker 15: was it was misspelled in the email. But there was
29:18
Speaker 15: an emails Jeffrey EPs you talk about how Barack is
29:20
Speaker 15: coming over for dinner tonight and he actually look on
29:22
Speaker 15: the timestamp, I think this was. This was in late
29:26
Speaker 15: October November is run the presspice of the twenty seas
29:28
Speaker 15: you need election of memory serves Barack Obama was on
29:30
Speaker 15: the campaign truck campaigning for then Canda to Hillary Clinton. Well,
29:33
Speaker 15: guess where he was at that time at the same
29:34
Speaker 15: time Jeffrey Epstein sent that email. Oh yeah, he was
29:37
Speaker 15: in South Florida. He was campaigning in South Florida at
29:39
Speaker 15: the same time that Jeffrey Epstein was talking about having
29:42
Speaker 15: someone named Barack over to his house for dinner in
29:45
Speaker 15: Palm Beach. I wonder who that could be, right, So,
29:48
Speaker 15: I mean, Bill Clinton is one thing we've known about
29:51
Speaker 15: these Bill Clinton times Jeffrey Epstein for years. But I
29:53
Speaker 15: think that the curious onlooker might if the curious onlooker
29:56
Speaker 15: here is not hypocritical, unlike a heme Jeffrey's rocon, if
30:00
Speaker 15: the curious onlookers actually intellectually honest, I think one might
30:03
Speaker 15: be inclined to ask what a Barack Obama no, when.
30:09
Speaker 3: Of course it could be an entirely different Baraque with
30:12
Speaker 3: two hours, So we'll wait and see.
30:15
Speaker 16: Now.
30:15
Speaker 3: Donald Trump has said he will be pursuing legal action
30:19
Speaker 3: against the BBC after they deceptively edited his January sixth speech.
30:24
Speaker 3: Trump has already secured multiple eight figure settlements over the
30:28
Speaker 3: past year from media outlets from ABC American ABC and CBS,
30:33
Speaker 3: as well as major social media platforms Josh x Meta,
30:38
Speaker 3: which has Facebook and Instagram and also YouTube. How do
30:42
Speaker 3: you see this latest clash progressing. I think the UK's
30:48
Speaker 3: information laws are far harsher than what's in place in
30:52
Speaker 3: the US. Could he be looking at another massive payout here?
30:57
Speaker 15: Yeah, you took the words down my mouth. In the UK,
31:00
Speaker 15: defamation law is extremely, extremely strict, actually read it. I
31:04
Speaker 15: know this very much firsthand because during some of the
31:07
Speaker 15: riots in the UK just over a year ago, there
31:09
Speaker 15: was a horrific murderer of young English children and a
31:13
Speaker 15: dance studio from a Rwandan memory serves there and there
31:15
Speaker 15: were all these riots then counter rights there and I
31:17
Speaker 15: made a somewhat anodyne tweet about two tier cure starmer
31:21
Speaker 15: and a friend of mine, who is a British lawyer
31:23
Speaker 15: over in London, messaged me on WhatsApp. He said, Josh,
31:26
Speaker 15: you probably should take that tweet down and I was like,
31:28
Speaker 15: what are you talking about. I mean, like, this is America,
31:30
Speaker 15: I have free speech, and he was like, actually, under
31:32
Speaker 15: British law, that's probably that's probably defamatory.
31:35
Speaker 4: So you know, I didn't.
31:35
Speaker 15: For the record, I did not delete the screed. I
31:37
Speaker 15: did not capitulate to Britain's utterly or WILLI en defamation system.
31:40
Speaker 15: But to your point, yeah, defamation is a lot easier
31:43
Speaker 15: in the UK, certainly than in the United States, where
31:46
Speaker 15: we have a slightly higher threshold, especially for so called
31:48
Speaker 15: public figures, So potentially BBC could be in a world
31:51
Speaker 15: of herd here. Now Having said that, there are any
31:53
Speaker 15: number of left wing judges and the British judiciary, many
31:56
Speaker 15: of whom are probably deeply antagonistic to Donald Trump, probably
31:59
Speaker 15: many of them praying we just utterly hate the guy.
32:01
Speaker 15: It's not that dissimilar, frankly, from a lot of her
32:03
Speaker 15: own American judges, who invariably suffer in these lower court
32:07
Speaker 15: random judge ships in Hawaii and New Hampshire. When not there,
32:10
Speaker 15: they oftentimes suffer from Trump arrangement syndrome. I presume it's
32:12
Speaker 15: probably the same across the pond over in the UK
32:14
Speaker 15: as well, So I would caution against necessarily saying that
32:18
Speaker 15: this is a slam dunk case. But given Donald Trump's
32:22
Speaker 15: track record in successfully suiting Deformation and various other media outlets,
32:26
Speaker 15: as you correctly noted, and given the fact that defamation
32:28
Speaker 15: laws is such a lower bar when it comes to
32:32
Speaker 15: being the plaintiff in British law, I don't know rita
32:35
Speaker 15: I happened to, I happen to like his changes. I
32:37
Speaker 15: definitely would not want to be in the BBC's legal
32:38
Speaker 15: position right now, that's for sure.
32:41
Speaker 3: Well, it's already secured these five eight figure settlements and
32:47
Speaker 3: other proceeds of those settlements.
32:48
Speaker 4: Going towards the ballroom.
32:51
Speaker 3: Is that accurate because this babac one could pay for
32:54
Speaker 3: the whole thing.
32:55
Speaker 4: Possibly.
32:57
Speaker 15: Yeah, So the judgments go to different things them. I
33:00
Speaker 15: think was the ABC settlement actually is going to help
33:02
Speaker 15: construct the Trump Presidential Library actually after after Donald Trump's presidency,
33:06
Speaker 15: which is it's just it's yeah, it's it's just so
33:09
Speaker 15: thoroughly deluctable, isn't it that that ABC, which which you know,
33:13
Speaker 15: did about as much as any other networks to try
33:15
Speaker 15: to throw the twenty twenty four election to Kamala Harris
33:18
Speaker 15: with their horrific debate performances and whatnot there, and now
33:20
Speaker 15: they're trying now they're going to subsidize the Trump Presidential Library.
33:23
Speaker 15: So on the one hand, it was that I do
33:25
Speaker 15: think I heard that one that one of these judgments
33:27
Speaker 15: might be subsizing the People's Ballroom there in the East
33:30
Speaker 15: wing of the White House there. But it depends on
33:32
Speaker 15: the judgment. But it's it's frankly from an American taxpayer
33:36
Speaker 15: protective Rita. I just love it because these these media
33:38
Speaker 15: outlets are frankly the people, and they should be made
33:40
Speaker 15: to pay us.
33:41
Speaker 3: Such I think there's not much sympathy for these media
33:46
Speaker 3: outlets at all, all the social media outlets. Now, I
33:49
Speaker 3: wanted to ask about this tariff revenue bonus that President
33:52
Speaker 3: Trump is committed to sending two Americans.
33:56
Speaker 14: That everybody went, the rich get this. That's not made up.
34:06
Speaker 14: That's for money that comes from other countries.
34:09
Speaker 3: Josh, A two thousand dollars dividend check to be distributed
34:13
Speaker 3: from tariff revenue sometime next.
34:17
Speaker 4: Year, we're told, perhaps before the midterms. Do you say
34:21
Speaker 4: this happening?
34:22
Speaker 3: Because there's a lot of doubts about whether these two
34:25
Speaker 3: thousand dollar checks can be sent.
34:29
Speaker 15: If I had to guess, I would guess probably not.
34:31
Speaker 15: To be honest to you, this this will probably require
34:33
Speaker 15: an Act of Congress. I think this would be very
34:35
Speaker 15: legally dicey to try to do via executive order. I
34:38
Speaker 15: think that even more compelling. A reason why I would
34:41
Speaker 15: throw some skepticism as to whether or not that this
34:43
Speaker 15: will happen is because, based on what the American people
34:47
Speaker 15: tell polsters, including those off off your elections, two weeks
34:49
Speaker 15: ago in New York, Senior Jers in Virginia readA The
34:52
Speaker 15: issues that they still care most about are pertained to inflation,
34:55
Speaker 15: cost of living, affordability, things like that. And if there's
34:58
Speaker 15: one thing that we know from Joe Biden's spending bonanza
35:01
Speaker 15: and the various checks in the mail during COVID, it's
35:03
Speaker 15: that these things, over the course of a year or two,
35:05
Speaker 15: three years the most, can tend to exacerbate inflationary fears.
35:09
Speaker 15: And if this ministration is sympathetic to listening to the
35:12
Speaker 15: American people when it comes to their cost of willing concerns, there,
35:15
Speaker 15: this is the kind of thing that might sound good
35:17
Speaker 15: in theory. I mean, who doesn't want to receive a
35:19
Speaker 15: two thousand dollars check the mail? I mean, heck, sign
35:21
Speaker 15: me up. That sounds great. But unfortunately there is a
35:25
Speaker 15: downside to that when you look at it from a
35:26
Speaker 15: more macro extrapolated perspective. There and that is potentially exacerbating inflation.
35:31
Speaker 15: So for all these reasons, I am skeptical. But you know,
35:34
Speaker 15: this is Donald Trump's populist mentality, right. I mean, he
35:37
Speaker 15: sees revenue coming in for the tariffs, he wants to
35:39
Speaker 15: share the wealth with the people. You know, these are
35:42
Speaker 15: my big beautiful tariffs there. I want to see the
35:43
Speaker 15: people who are proud of this tariffs but proud of
35:46
Speaker 15: rebuilding industry, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So I
35:48
Speaker 15: totally understand where he's coming from his mentality there, but
35:51
Speaker 15: from both a separation of powers perspective, I don't think
35:54
Speaker 15: Congress would get behind you. And then also on the
35:56
Speaker 15: inflation fears, I'm a mott skeptical as well.
36:00
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not so sure about that.
36:03
Speaker 3: I'm not doubting your judgment that perhaps this can't be
36:07
Speaker 3: done and the process that had to go through, But
36:10
Speaker 3: I reckon people would be absolutely overjoyed about getting a
36:15
Speaker 3: two thousand dollars check and they're not going to worry
36:16
Speaker 3: too much about how inflationary it may be down the track.
36:20
Speaker 3: I think you are underestimating how much people love free
36:24
Speaker 3: things and two thousand dollars, particularly because it's coming essentially
36:28
Speaker 3: from foreign nations. If it is actually coming from tariff revenue,
36:31
Speaker 3: the symbolism there, I think is pretty good. Now, before
36:35
Speaker 3: you go, there's already trouble among New York City Mayor
36:39
Speaker 3: Alex Zora and Ma'm Danny's transition team with Hassan shod Hari,
36:44
Speaker 3: who's reportedly the political director for the Transition Committee. It's
36:48
Speaker 3: been revealed he's been posting hate against Jews and Israel
36:53
Speaker 3: and even.
36:53
Speaker 4: Questioning gay rights.
36:54
Speaker 3: Now, these social media posts are from around ten years ago,
36:58
Speaker 3: but pretty ugly used the word Jews as a slur.
37:04
Speaker 3: He praised former Iranian President Mahmoud, a manager who infamously
37:11
Speaker 3: said Israel is a cancer which will be eliminated soon.
37:15
Speaker 3: I think we're seeing now this conflict coming to fruition
37:19
Speaker 3: between ma'm Dani's very woke supporter base and some of
37:25
Speaker 3: the Islamist supporter base.
37:29
Speaker 11: Yeah.
37:29
Speaker 15: Read, I mean this has to be the least surprising
37:31
Speaker 15: political development of my entire lifetime, right, I mean, I
37:33
Speaker 15: mean that Zora Mamdani, someone who struggled to condemn Hama,
37:36
Speaker 15: someone who struggled to condemn the inherently genocidal phraser from
37:40
Speaker 15: the River to the Sea, Palestine Shelby Free, someone who
37:43
Speaker 15: was accusing Israel of genocide before the tanks even started
37:47
Speaker 15: rolling into Gaza, like literally on like October Ethra October ninth,
37:51
Speaker 15: twenty twenty three, something absolutely crazy like that. I mean
37:54
Speaker 15: obviously he's going to surround himself with people who think
37:56
Speaker 15: and talk like this, this, this is, this is totally surprising,
37:59
Speaker 15: I think. I think the more interesting thing to me is,
38:01
Speaker 15: as a New York Post reporter, in the headline that
38:03
Speaker 15: we just saw this guy was not just bashing Jews,
38:06
Speaker 15: he was also bashing gay rights. That is interesting, right,
38:10
Speaker 15: because that is one of the that is one of
38:11
Speaker 15: the major planks of the current American left when it
38:14
Speaker 15: comes to LGBT, very much cleaning transgenderism. But this actually
38:18
Speaker 15: gets to a broader point creator that I've been making
38:20
Speaker 15: for many years now, which is that this whole absurd,
38:23
Speaker 15: woke intersectional identity politics coalition, this notion of a coalition
38:27
Speaker 15: of aggrieved interests, as I call it there, it's inherently
38:30
Speaker 15: self contradictory. If you're going to have someone who's pathetic
38:32
Speaker 15: to radical Islam and Islamism or Sharia law, you're by
38:37
Speaker 15: definition not going to have someone who is sympathetic to
38:39
Speaker 15: feminism or LGBT rights. There. Think about Linda Sarsor. I mean,
38:43
Speaker 15: she was the head of the Women's March back in
38:45
Speaker 15: twenty seventeen, the very early datas tormentration. She also was
38:48
Speaker 15: a Sharia law apologist. I mean square that circle for me.
38:51
Speaker 15: The same thing with this guy that the Mandayam advisor.
38:54
Speaker 15: I mean square this circle for me. Where you're calling
38:56
Speaker 15: yourself a quote unquote progressive champion. It literally just does
38:59
Speaker 15: not add up. And it all kind of underscores the
39:02
Speaker 15: intellectual dissonance and frequly just the intellectual rapidity and stupidity
39:06
Speaker 15: that is the modern American left.
39:10
Speaker 4: And Linda Suzzle is on the scene.
39:12
Speaker 3: I thought she had disappeared, but it seems like she's
39:15
Speaker 3: been working behind the scenes. Helpings are on ma'm Danny
39:19
Speaker 3: and others get elected. So yeah, she's still a force
39:24
Speaker 3: to be reckoned with.
39:25
Speaker 4: Unfortunately for America. Josh Hamma, thank you so much for
39:28
Speaker 4: your time. Tonight still to come. What did Ariana.
39:31
Speaker 3: Grande do to upset Sydney Sweeney is growing fan base?
39:35
Speaker 3: Kinsey Scofield has the details.
39:47
Speaker 4: Welcome back.
39:47
Speaker 3: Joining me now is celebrity and royal commentator Kinseyscofield.
39:51
Speaker 4: Kinsey. Let's start with Ariana Grande.
39:54
Speaker 3: She has copped a little bit of criticism for failing
39:58
Speaker 3: to use Sydney Sween his name. During a recent interview,
40:02
Speaker 3: Grande pulled out a photograph of Sweeney during the interview
40:05
Speaker 3: and showed it to her co star Bo and Yang
40:07
Speaker 3: and asked, was I better than this woman? This woman Kinsey?
40:12
Speaker 3: Why couldn't she say her name?
40:15
Speaker 16: I mean, I think that this is fair criticism. Calling
40:18
Speaker 16: someone that woman or this woman is a snub because
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Speaker 16: it strips them of their name, creates distance and signals
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Speaker 16: that you don't respect them. It tells the audience that
40:28
Speaker 16: you do not see this person as worthy of acknowledgment.
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Speaker 16: This is supposed to be a silly, fun segment, but
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Speaker 16: it isn't a great look for Ariana, who wouldn't tolerate
40:39
Speaker 16: that type of disrespect towards someone she cared about, like
40:42
Speaker 16: a wicked coastar who she practically dry humps in every interview.
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Speaker 8: So I do think it's shocking and strange.
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Speaker 4: You and I have to.
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Speaker 3: Discuss in depth their antiques because they are getting more.
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Speaker 4: Ridiculous, more weird.
40:57
Speaker 3: The dynamic is just so off. I don't know what's happening.
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Speaker 3: It seems very fake, But also I don't know, you're.
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Speaker 4: Uncomfortable watching it. The only good thing about it.
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Speaker 3: Is that inspires so many parodies, so many funny parodies
41:11
Speaker 3: out there trying to copy what they're doing now. There
41:15
Speaker 3: was a piece in The Daily Mail last week which
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Speaker 3: questioned whether Sidney Sweeney has become too toxic for Hollywood?
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Speaker 3: Tell me about this? Is this some sort of new McCarthyism. Well,
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Speaker 3: I guess it's not that new that conservatives have been
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Speaker 3: black banned, blacklisted in Hollywood for some years now. But
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Speaker 3: could she be considered too toxic just for doing a
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Speaker 3: Genes commercial that lefties didn't like?
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Speaker 16: Well, thank you for bringing up this article. What a
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Speaker 16: stupid article. It was in reference to a few box
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Speaker 16: office flaps for Sydney this year. I mean, she's got
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Speaker 16: seven upcoming projects according to IMDb. In the last twenty
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Speaker 16: four months, She's released at least sex films. She's generating
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Speaker 16: a lot of content, commercial opportunities television and film, and statistically,
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Speaker 16: not everything is going to appeal to audiences. I like her,
42:07
Speaker 16: but I'm not going to watch a movie where she
42:09
Speaker 16: plays a boxer. I mean, that just doesn't interest me.
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Speaker 16: But the Daily Mail suggesting that criticism from a photographer
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Speaker 16: friend of Harry and Meggan Markles somehow signifies the decline
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Speaker 16: of Sidney Sweeney is a major stretch. Her phone hasn't
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Speaker 16: stopped ringing because she's a registered Republican. In fact, she's
42:28
Speaker 16: creating an incredibly lucrative brand. My only concern is that
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Speaker 16: I think that there might be an oversaturation.
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Speaker 8: I mean, Sydney girl.
42:37
Speaker 16: It's okay to say no sometimes, but if you go
42:39
Speaker 16: to the malls here, she's on every Kiosk promoting every product.
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Speaker 8: You know, She's just kind of everywhere. But otherwise, I.
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Speaker 16: Mean, I think that Sydney has a great future ahead
42:50
Speaker 16: of her.
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Speaker 3: I think you're going to say a few more actresses
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Speaker 3: registering as Republicans if that's the outcome.
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Speaker 4: That seems to be working beautifully for her now.
42:59
Speaker 3: Megan has faced backlash for her as Ever Christmas collection promo.
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Speaker 3: It's been described as beige and depressing.
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Speaker 4: That's a bit Harshkins, they.
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Speaker 8: Know, is it harsh?
43:11
Speaker 11: Reta?
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Speaker 8: I mean, so you're right.
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Speaker 16: Saturday, she posted this video of her self assembling gifts
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Speaker 16: while hard selling her as Ever holiday range, which includes
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Speaker 16: a sixty four dollars candle and a mundane mold spice kit.
43:23
Speaker 16: The visuals you just saw them. They were dark and miserable.
43:27
Speaker 16: Brown stockings are those the literal socks from her feet
43:30
Speaker 16: that she says she answers the door in when she's
43:33
Speaker 16: barefoot to not intimidate her guests. You know, the guests
43:37
Speaker 16: that she's laid eight mugs out the night before to
43:39
Speaker 16: make her to do lists shorter. Megan Markle and Netflix
43:43
Speaker 16: for that matter, continue desperately to position this woman in
43:46
Speaker 16: a role she is not qualified for. And I can't
43:49
Speaker 16: wait to talk to you on after December third, We're
43:53
Speaker 16: going to dissect her Joyless and Familyless holiday special on
43:57
Speaker 16: Netflix and it's going to be a blast.
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Speaker 4: I can't wait to go through that. We are going
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Speaker 4: to have some fun.
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Speaker 3: Sixty four dollar candle sixty four dollars a US. That's
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Speaker 3: about one hundred dollars Australian for a candle. I mean
44:09
Speaker 3: that's not very accessible. That's for most people during a
44:13
Speaker 3: cost of living crisis. Now to rumors of a potential
44:18
Speaker 3: visit from Harry and Meghan to Australia, what can you
44:21
Speaker 3: tell us about this?
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Speaker 4: Kickinzie?
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Speaker 16: So this Harry and Meghan have been associating with a
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Speaker 16: celebrity psychic. I know nothing will shock you less that
44:29
Speaker 16: Harry and Megan have become friendly with a celebrity psychic.
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Speaker 8: And she posted a message from Harry and Meghan.
44:36
Speaker 16: She blurs out some of the message, so we don't
44:39
Speaker 16: know what event they specifically spent time at, but they
44:42
Speaker 16: thank her for her appearance at this event and they
44:46
Speaker 16: say that they are looking forward to visiting Australia sometime
44:50
Speaker 16: in the near future. Rita a day late and a
44:53
Speaker 16: dollar short. I just talked to Tom Bauer about this
44:55
Speaker 16: because he's got a new book coming out in March
44:57
Speaker 16: that's going to be after this is like, you know,
45:00
Speaker 16: the sequel to Revenge. Revenge was amazing, and in Revenge
45:04
Speaker 16: she talks about that twenty eighteen trip to Australia and
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Speaker 16: how that's where Megan really got that bug that she
45:11
Speaker 16: was eclipsing William and Catherine the Prince and Princess of Wales,
45:15
Speaker 16: and she was so popular that she could make her
45:17
Speaker 16: own rules, promises and demands. And that really starts mexit
45:21
Speaker 16: right there. And I said to Tom about why did
45:24
Speaker 16: she not nurture this relationship with Australia more, why has she,
45:28
Speaker 16: you know, seemingly abandoned Australia. There's a few weeks ago,
45:31
Speaker 16: and he said, because she wanted Hollywood, so Australia knows better.
45:36
Speaker 16: Her polling has declined significantly there. I don't think they'd
45:39
Speaker 16: get the welcome that they would want now.
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Speaker 3: I reckon yes, when they came out, because again, I
45:46
Speaker 3: was one of the few people who could see through her.
45:49
Speaker 3: I don't know how not everybody saw through her because
45:51
Speaker 3: it was so obvious.
45:52
Speaker 4: That it was an act.
45:54
Speaker 3: But there was adulation at the time, sort of the
45:58
Speaker 3: treatment she was getting in the UK initially until they
46:00
Speaker 3: figured out who she was.
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Speaker 4: But I don't think it's going to be that warm
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Speaker 4: this time around.
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Speaker 3: And I think the I think we were quicker than
46:09
Speaker 3: the Yanks certainly to figure her out. I think, yes,
46:14
Speaker 3: she's not going to be the Queen of Australia anytime
46:17
Speaker 3: soon now. Comedian Jeff Dye is joining the growing wave
46:21
Speaker 3: of entertainers or leaving Los Angeles. He was on Joe
46:24
Speaker 3: Rogan's podcast where he expressed concern about the direction California
46:29
Speaker 3: was taking under the leadership of Gavin Newsom.
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Speaker 2: I could be guilty of being a victim of like
46:36
Speaker 2: what I'm absorbing in my algorithm, but like Gavin Newsom
46:40
Speaker 2: scares out of me and I am I'm I don't
46:44
Speaker 2: want to be a part of it.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, he wants to run the whole country too.
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Speaker 4: It's pretty wild, Kinsey.
46:52
Speaker 3: I'm a fan of his, but I can't understand why
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Speaker 3: it's taken so long. California has been on a bad
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Speaker 3: path for some time now.
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Speaker 16: I promise you, I'm trying to get out of here.
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Speaker 16: I promise, I promise, I have I have plans. Okay,
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Speaker 16: but this is interesting because in the past, Jeff told
47:11
Speaker 16: Tomy Lren that he would stay in California because he
47:14
Speaker 16: just loved and believed in it. So this change of
47:17
Speaker 16: heart is newsworthy. But those observations about Newsom. Ever since
47:21
Speaker 16: Gavin adopted this very aggressive and desperate, inauthentic attempt at
47:26
Speaker 16: copying the Donald Trump political playbook, he's looked completely unstable
47:31
Speaker 16: to the point of frightening, Like what is he doing
47:34
Speaker 16: with his hands all the time?
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Speaker 3: And is he They're always I'm moving in very odd
47:39
Speaker 3: ways when you talk, like I talk with my hands
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Speaker 3: a lot, but not like that He's It's just bizarre.
47:46
Speaker 3: And the whole online persona where he's trying to out
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Speaker 3: Trump Trump it does it's not working. Gavin, go back
47:53
Speaker 3: to whatever it was you were doing, which wasn't working either,
47:56
Speaker 3: but at least you were embarrassing yourself before you go.
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Speaker 3: Michelle Obama has continued her book to our and she.
48:04
Speaker 4: Sat down with Tracy Ellis Rawls.
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Speaker 3: She claimed that black women are trapped by the pressure
48:09
Speaker 3: to keep their hairs straight.
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Speaker 17: Have a listen, let me explain something to white people.
48:16
Speaker 17: Our hair comes out of our head naturally in a
48:19
Speaker 17: curly pattern, so when we're straightening it to follow your
48:23
Speaker 17: beauty standards, we are trapped by the straightness. That's why
48:28
Speaker 17: so many of us can't swim and we run away
48:32
Speaker 17: from the water. People won't go to the gym because
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Speaker 17: we're trying to keep our hair straight.
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Speaker 3: For y'all, Kinsey, in ten seconds, sum up what's happening?
48:44
Speaker 4: What is this misery to us she's doing. It's just
48:48
Speaker 4: incessantly walking.
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Speaker 16: In ten seconds, I would tell you white people have
48:52
Speaker 16: curly hair too, and I would say this is mean
48:54
Speaker 16: spirited and a racist conversation. And what evil white woman
48:59
Speaker 16: made her eating her hair that day? You know, I
49:02
Speaker 16: just find this type of venomous conversation unproductive. And she
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Speaker 16: had very straight hair as she was complaining about it.
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Speaker 3: Kinsyschofield, thank you so much for your time, and that's
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