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Hollywood, Politics and the Occult Aren’t the Real Threat · Heaven & Healing Podcast

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  I had actually witnessed satanic rituals
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  being done at the music warehouse in
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  Hollywood. These women engaging in blood
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  rituals, cutting their wrists, locked in
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  cages. They had this black bunny mask
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  on. They were doing ritualistic
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  sacrifices to Satan when they're not
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  making music.
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  >> Everything we're talking about is
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  extreme as it sounds. It's the tip of
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  the iceberg. That is like level one.
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  Hillary Clinton and John Podesta.
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  >> Wait, I am not ready for this. I'm not
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  ready to know how deep this goes.
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  Powerful people are worshiping the
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  devil. There was a point where I was
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  about to go crazy. I was researching
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  about cultism in Hollywood and in the
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  government.
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  >> All of it is under the sway of the evil
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  one. That doesn't extinguish the
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  Republican party.
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  >> They pretend to do the whole Christian
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  thing and they're doing the same stuff
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  behind her back. The Democratic Party,
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  they're very open about their Satanism.
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  >> I think it's the biggest scop in the
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  world. There are so many layers to this
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  matrix. It's absolutely insane.
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  Politicians and celebrities all worship
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  Molech and this forest in San Francisco.
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  What is the common denominator with this
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  Molech thing? Epste was around these
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  folks like Deepo Chopra, huge new age
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  guru. These satanic people love that
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  stuff. They love the new age stuff, the
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  collective consciousness garbage. How do
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  you see all this occultic stuff? All of
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  these satanic people following the same
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  thing that you follow and still not
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  making the connection that you're wrong.
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  >> Hey everyone, welcome back. Today I'm
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  really excited about the guest that I
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  have, Nick Kaswani. So, we got
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  connected. I don't even honestly
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  remember when, maybe like 2ish years
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  ago. It just feels like we've kind of
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  been following each other for like I
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  don't know, ever. But we never I didn't
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  even plan this honestly. He just reached
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  out to me like a week ago. I was like,
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  "Hey, I'm going to be in Nashville." So,
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  this is completely God orained. And
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  that's why I'm so excited about the
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  conversation because the Lord knows
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  exactly where it's going to go. So,
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  without further ado, I'm just going to
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  pass it right over to Nick. How are you?
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  >> What's up, guys? Thank you for having me
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  on. I'm so convicted being here cuz your
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  guys' setup and production is so good.
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  Like
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  >> mine's like a makeshift one at home. Um
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  but no, it's been, you know, I've been
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  in Nashville. This is like my first time
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  here. Been here for like 2 3 days
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  already. It's so beautiful out here.
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  Yeah.
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  >> Um and yeah, totally totally random,
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  too. I wasn't planning on coming out
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  here. And um my buddy who lives here has
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  been trying to get me to come visit for
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  a while. And I think I remember uh
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  seeing you guys like post that you were
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  out here. So I'm like, you know what?
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  Let's see if they're available. Been
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  watching your stuff for a while too. I
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  love it. Especially like the exposing
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  new age stuff cuz I have a lot of people
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  that I love that are like caught in
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  that. So um it gives me good material
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  too, you know? So I love what you guys
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  are doing.
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  >> We have like different backgrounds but
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  kind of similar. Yeah.
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  >> In in kind like the context and the
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  framework of it all. So, we're going to
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  get into all that today. I'm super
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  excited to have you. I saw your
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  testimony. I was telling you pre-roll
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  like like twoish three-ish years ago,
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  but I haven't watched it since, so the
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  details are foggy to me. So, this is
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  going to be as new to me as it is the
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  audience. So, let's just I mean just
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  take over like tell me where you came
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  from, what you were doing, and how you
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  came to know Christ.
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  >> Yeah, sure. So, I was raised in a like
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  traditional Hindu family. Um, you know,
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  it's part of our culture. Uh my all my
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  ancestors were Hindu. That's all I ever
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  knew. So I went to the Hindu temple
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  every Sunday from when I was a kid until
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  um I would say maybe a teenager when I
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  moved away and moved to LA. And so that
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  was like pretty much my whole
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  upbringing. I've never heard I never
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  heard the gospel of Jesus Christ. Didn't
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  know what Christians believed in. I
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  barely knew what Muslims believed in. I
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  just lived in like my own bubble, I
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  guess you could say. Um
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  >> what does that look like? I don't mean
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  to cut you off but I've never actually
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  had someone with a
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  >> a Hindu upbringing. What does like the
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  worship look like within that space?
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  >> I guess according to true Hindus because
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  you know me from new age it's just like
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  you just like do what you want sort of
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  thing. So
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  >> yeah it's um so it's interesting you do
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  like what's called pujas which are
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  prayers and uh you recite mantras and
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  basically you know growing up I'd just
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  be reciting stuff in Hindi that I didn't
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  understand for like two hours straight.
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  Yeah.
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  >> Um, you know, there's like rituals
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  involved too, like um, you know, you
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  have like trays and you light a candle
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  with uh made out of like ghee in the
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  middle and you like do the circular
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  formation with it while singing this
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  mantra to like a deity and stuff. Um, a
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  lot of stuff like that. Uh, you would
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  eat food sacrificed to these idols too.
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  um like prasad is is like kind of like a
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  dessert where they sacrifice it to the
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  idol and you eat it and it's like this
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  whole um you know shiel and uh but yeah
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  it was just kind of interesting because
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  I grew up in Hinduism. I was taught that
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  like that's what god is um but there's
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  like multiple gods too so it's a bit
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  confusing in that area. Um but you know
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  I just grew up in religion basically
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  like yeah when I was a kid I was really
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  into it. I was really into the Hindu
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  gods and stuff, but as I got older, I'm
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  just like, you know, I I didn't really
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  understand it. I didn't really resonate
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  with it. Um, and mostly because I had an
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  issue with God as well. Went through a
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  lot of things when I was a child, which
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  kind of created some resentment to any
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  like deity uh that would be out there
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  that would be supreme. So, I would say
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  from like, you know, a young child to
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  like 15, 16, I would go to the temple. I
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  was kind of into it. Once I became 17,
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  18, I kind of just drifted more towards
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  atheism.
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  >> Um, but yeah, that was like my
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  upbringing. You know, my parents, they
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  were just trying to introduce me to some
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  form of God that they knew. Uh, and they
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  did everything they could to kind of
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  keep us on the right path with that.
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  But, um, yeah, I mean, it never never
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  solved anything in my life. It was just
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  a bunch of rituals and dead religion,
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  um, and worshiping idols. and that's not
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  really going to get you anywhere cause
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  any transformation, you know. Moved out
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  at 17, moved to LA, drifted more into
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  like atheism and stuff. And I really had
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  no time to think about God, to research
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  about God. It just he wasn't like part
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  of my life at all. I was, you know,
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  making a lot of money in LA. I was very
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  successful in the secular world. Um, and
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  so I was very distracted. I had all
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  these things going on for me. There was
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  no time to think deeply like that. Um,
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  and yeah, I was just con completely
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  consumed by sin at that point. Uh, I was
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  kind of like a good kid in high school
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  and stuff. Like I didn't get into drugs.
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  I didn't get into weed
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  um or any of the stuff that those kids
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  are doing in high school when they have
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  that rebellious phase. I kind of more
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  drifted off, I guess you could say, when
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  I moved to LA and I had my own
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  independence and I got introduced to
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  people who were doing stuff like that,
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  you know. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I lived
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  out in LA from like 17 to uh 21. And
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  that was just kind of like my years of
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  pure degeneracy, you know, clubbing, uh,
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  getting drunk all the time. Started
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  getting introduced to weed, started
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  getting introduced to hard drugs. Um,
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  you know, anything that sin had to
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  offer, I was doing that, right? Um, so
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  as I kind of got involved in that
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  lifestyle, my heart kind of got more
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  hardened, I guess you could say, um,
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  towards anything relating to God, like I
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  remember people would try to talk about
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  God and I would just manifest. I had,
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  you know, tons of demons in me back in
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  the day and they would manifest like
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  crazy, make fun of people who believed
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  in that. What really changed is when uh
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  the lockdown had happened when COVID
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  arrived and everything was shut down and
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  my entire way of life was kind of put on
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  pause. I couldn't go clubbing anymore.
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  Um couldn't do all these things, right?
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  So I had all this time to think
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  >> especially in LA.
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  >> Yeah, this LA died during COVID actually
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  and it never recovered interestingly
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  enough. Um and I believe that that was
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  like God's judgment on that city to be
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  honest with you, but that's a different
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  story for a different day. uh COVID
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  comes, everything gets shut down. I'm
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  alone in my apartment and uh I just had
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  all the time in the world to
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  >> do whatever I wanted, right? So, I
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  remember I started to go down the rabbit
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  hole a little bit. Well, for the first
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  half of COVID, I was just smoking weed
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  every day and playing video games like a
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  bum. And I'm like, you know what? Maybe
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  it's time to start doing something like
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  with this time that I have. So, I
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  started to like go down the rabbit hole
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  of I guess you could say the conspiracy
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  rabbit hole.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> Um, which praise God, like God used that
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  because that eventually led me to
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  Christ. And we'll get to that in a
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  minute. But I remember like I was
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  researching a lot about um, you know,
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  all of the occultism in Hollywood and in
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  the government. And what's really
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  interesting is um I had actually
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  witnessed something like that briefly
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  like a couple years before that rabbit
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  hole where I saw like satanic rituals
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  being done at like a music warehouse in
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  Hollywood.
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  >> So um when I was going down that rabbit
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  hole I was like oh I actually believe
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  that cuz I had seen that with my own
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  eyes. I just didn't know like that
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  that's what was really going on in the
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  >> You were involved in music, right? When
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  you say you were successful in the
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  secular world, that was the realm you
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  were involved with.
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  >> Yeah, it was it was more so content
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  creation, but music as well. Um, and you
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  know, I was at like this music uh
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  studio. It was like a warehouse in
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  downtown LA.
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  >> Okay.
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  >> And uh the guy who was producing music
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  there, I guess he was like a devout uh
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  luciferian or something like that. Wow.
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  And I had no idea until he showed me on
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  his phone what he did with that music
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  studio after hours. And uh he showed me
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  a video on the app called Vimeo. It was
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  like a demo reel.
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  >> Um
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  >> and it was basically like a satanic uh
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  swinger party that he showed me on his
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  phone that he hosts at that warehouse.
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  And like you would see these women um
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  engaging in these like blood rituals
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  where they would be like cutting their
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  wrists, locked in cages. is they had
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  like this black bunny mask on um and
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  they were doing like uh ritualistic
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  sacrifices to Satan on this video and
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  like I wasn't there like when it was
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  happening but I was in the same
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  warehouse where that stuff occurs and he
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  was showing me a video of what they do
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  with it when they're not making music
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  there. Um and I was like what the heck
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  is that?
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  >> So did you So you were like atheist at
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  the time but you saw that.
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  >> Mhm.
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  >> Did you think like oh this is weird?
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> Okay. I definitely thought it was a
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  little weird. Um I was like, "Okay, well
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  that's a little bit much." Like when I
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  saw the blood coming out, they like them
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  cutting themselves, that's when I was
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  like, "All right, this is like um this
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  is a little too much." Cuz I was kind of
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  a dark person back then, too. Like I was
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  into the whole like edgy atheistic
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  satanic stuff. Like I listen to music
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  artists that were into that stuff too.
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  So it wasn't even like
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  >> I guess you could say really the blood
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  is what disturbed me, you know? Um I was
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  like that just doesn't seem right.
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  >> Um
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  >> so never work with that guy again. Uh
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  >> praise [laughter] God.
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  >> Um but you know I bring that up to say
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  like when I went down the rabbit hole a
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  couple years later um I was like oh
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  actually I have seen that with my own
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  eyes so I'm going to
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  >> give this a chance. I don't think this
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  is crazy talk. Um started going down the
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  rabbit hole where I was studying a lot
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  of occultic stuff. Like dude, I learned
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  a lot about like the occult, witchcraft,
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  symbolism, secret societies, all of
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  that. Um,
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  and I remember what really did it for me
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  was, uh, I remember I was studying
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  Bohemian Grove one day, uh, about how
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  these like politicians and celebrities
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  all worship Molech in this forest in San
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  Francisco. I remember Alex Jones, funny
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  enough, is the reason why I ended up
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  giving my life to Jesus Christ, cuz
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  [laughter]
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  he uh he snuck into Bohemian Grove and
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  um and he recorded uh the rituals that
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  were going on there on his phone. And I
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  was like, "What the heck is going on
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  here?" Like these people are really
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  dressing up like role playing and
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  dressing up in these weird costumes,
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  doing mock uh sacrifices, pretending to
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  sacrifice children uh to this deity. And
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  I'm like, these people are really really
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  powerful, you know, and this was after
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  like six months of the rabbit hole
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  already. So I was sold that like
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  powerful people are worshiping the
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  devil.
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  >> Yeah. Um,
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  and what's so interesting is I couldn't
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  get past the whole Molech thing because
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  I remember reading in like the emails
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  like with Hillary Clinton and John
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  Podesta and how they would be
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  sacrificing children to Molech too in
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  the leaked Wikileak emails and I'm like,
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  huh, what is the common denominator with
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  this Molech thing? Like this seems to be
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  a very popular demon that a lot of these
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  people like to worship. So, out of
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  curiosity, I just searched up on Google
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  for the first time Bible verses about
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  Molech because I'm starting to like get
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  the whole one plus one equals two thing,
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  like if the devil is real, then maybe
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  Christianity is true. Um,
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  >> and uh I searched up on Google like
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  Bible verses about Molech, and I saw
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  there was like over a hundred in the Old
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  Testament, and I'm like, what the heck?
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  Like, this book obviously has some
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  answers that I'm looking for. I'm like,
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  I don't want to end my um quest for
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  knowledge here. I want to keep going. If
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  it ends up being with the Bible,
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  >> I I got to look into it, you know. Um I
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  can't be close-minded. Maybe I'm wrong,
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  you know. Um
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  >> I was willing to accept the fact that I
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  was wrong about Christianity for the
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  sole purpose of getting to the truth.
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  >> So I and people always laugh when I say
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  this, like I ordered a Bible on Amazon
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  cuz people who grew up uh in the church,
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  there's always like a Bible in their
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  home or something. But for me, I had
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  never had any experience with having a
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  Bible on hand. I start researching more
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  about Jesus Christ and Christianity
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  specifically
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  and I was just so like enamored and
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  captivated by the the nature of Jesus
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  Christ like you know who he is, what he
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  taught. I was watching movies about him.
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  I was reading the Bible trying to find
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  answers in there and I could just feel
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  like God changing my heart in real time.
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  Like every time I would watch I started
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  getting really into near-death
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  experiences as well. uh heaven and hell
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  testimonies. Um
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  >> you know there was another guy too, you
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  probably heard of him, John Ramirez, who
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  was like ex Satanist. It's interesting
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  God like used the funnel of like ex
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  Satanist to kind of wake me up to the
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  fact that Jesus was real because I was
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  studying so much about Satanism already
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  and how these politicians are like
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  really involved in it. So to see people
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  come from that side to Christ, it like
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  further solidified that like, oh, Jesus
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  is the opposite of this and like the
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  truth, you know. Um, so I started
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  watching a lot of those videos, uh, the
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  near-death experience ones, which the
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  hell testimonies really scared me. I'm
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  not going to lie. Uh, and I kind of got
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  more sold and convinced on the fact that
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  like Jesus Christ is real after um just
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  more independent research for those next
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  couple months.
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  >> And uh but this was like the moment that
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  changed everything cuz I actually like
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  encountered God. I didn't just learn
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  about him. Uh, I remember this was in
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  August of 2020
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  and I got on my knees and for the first
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  time ever, I prayed to Jesus Christ and
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  I said, "Jesus, I believe you're real. I
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  believe you're God and I'm asking you
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  now to forgive me of all my sins." Um,
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  and as soon as I had said that prayer, I
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  had encountered the Holy Spirit for the
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  first time. I didn't know that it was
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  him. I didn't know it was the Holy
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  Spirit, but um the way that I would
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  describe it to people is like the
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  hardest drug I ever did in the world
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  times a trillion in a sense of euphoria.
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  That's the feeling that I experienced
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  when I called on the name of Jesus and
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  received the Holy Spirit for the first
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  time. Uh it was so overwhelming. It was
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  like the love of God and just the
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  presence of God hit me right then and
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  there within a nancond of that prayer. I
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  started like balling like a baby, like
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  tears coming down my eyes. I got up from
• 16:29
  where I was praying at just to like blow
• 16:31
  my nose and wipe my eyes. I didn't know
• 16:33
  what happened to me, but it was like
• 16:36
  time stopped for just that moment and I
• 16:38
  had encountered the presence of God. And
• 16:40
  it was like literally within an instant,
• 16:43
  I had felt this sense of like
• 16:44
  restoration that I didn't even know I
• 16:46
  needed. Um, and I remember after that
• 16:50
  encounter with the Holy Spirit, I was
• 16:52
  like, "Dude, something about that was
• 16:54
  like
• 16:56
  was insane." Like, I don't even know how
• 16:58
  to describe what I just experienced, but
• 17:00
  whatever that was, that was God. And I
• 17:02
  was determined to find out what that
• 17:03
  was.
• 17:04
  >> Um,
• 17:05
  >> wow. So I was reading the book of Acts
• 17:07
  later and I realized like um you know
• 17:10
  men were receiving the Holy Spirit, the
• 17:12
  spirit of God when they were repenting.
• 17:14
  You know on the day of Pentecost the
• 17:16
  spirit comes down. People are
• 17:17
  experiencing God like that. And I was
• 17:19
  like that's what that was. That was the
• 17:21
  Holy Spirit part of the trinity part of
• 17:23
  the triune Godhead. And I actually
• 17:25
  encountered him without even knowing
• 17:27
  that that was him.
• 17:29
  >> Um and I was like you can't make this
• 17:30
  up. like
• 17:32
  >> a book written over 2,000 years ago is
• 17:34
  describing exactly what I just
• 17:36
  experienced in the present day and age.
• 17:39
  And that's when I was like really sold
• 17:41
  that wow, Christianity is the truth.
• 17:44
  Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and
• 17:45
  the life. Um, and I have to really
• 17:48
  surrender to God. Now I'm in a dilemma
• 17:50
  here because I wasn't expecting to
• 17:52
  become a Christian going down the rabbit
• 17:55
  hole, but I'm like, "Okay, well now I
• 17:57
  know for a fact Jesus is real, so I have
• 17:59
  to change my life." Uh, which was like
• 18:02
  kind of scary, but I also really desired
• 18:05
  God. I really wanted God. Um,
• 18:08
  >> I really wanted to be in relationship
• 18:09
  with him. So I was like, "Whatever it
• 18:11
  takes, I'll do it even if it may suck in
• 18:13
  the beginning, right?" So, um, you know,
• 18:17
  I I guess the three things that were the
• 18:19
  toughest for me were, uh, weed, lust,
• 18:23
  and cussing. Those were the three
• 18:25
  things, right? So, um, you know, the
• 18:28
  lust and the cussing, I learned to
• 18:30
  overcome that really quickly. Um, but
• 18:32
  marijuana was kind of like my hardest
• 18:35
  struggle, I guess you could say. And I
• 18:38
  remember I would during this time I
• 18:40
  would smoke weed and still read the
• 18:42
  Bible for like the next two months fresh
• 18:45
  into my salvation, right? But I remember
• 18:48
  I was reading First Peter 5'8, uh, be
• 18:51
  sober, be vigilant because your
• 18:52
  adversary, the devil, walks around like
• 18:54
  a roaring lion seeking someone to
• 18:55
  devour. And I remember reading that when
• 18:58
  I was high and I was kind of convicted.
• 19:00
  I'm like, Lord,
• 19:02
  is this wrong? Like, can I not smoke?
• 19:04
  Because what the devil would convince me
• 19:06
  is
• 19:08
  Satan would convince me when I was a
• 19:09
  Christian smoking weed that being high
• 19:12
  got me closer to God and that it was
• 19:15
  natural. It came from the earth so like
• 19:17
  it has to be of God. uh and that was a
• 19:20
  complete psychological operation in
• 19:23
  itself because uh I believed that for
• 19:26
  the longest time but that's why you have
• 19:29
  to know the Bible for yourself because a
• 19:32
  lot of people think that like God is
• 19:33
  okay with stuff because they don't know
• 19:35
  scripture and when I was reading
• 19:37
  scripture I'm like wait is this going to
• 19:40
  actually like separate me from commun
• 19:43
  communion with God and I was like if it
• 19:46
  is I need to pray and ask God to show me
• 19:48
  why It's wrong, right? So, I prayed.
• 19:50
  >> So, good.
• 19:51
  >> I said, "Lord, please show me like if
• 19:53
  smoking weed is wrong,
• 19:55
  >> please show me why or give me a sign."
• 19:58
  And he gave me a sign because I got
• 19:59
  attacked by demons for the first time in
• 20:01
  my life after that. So, what happens is
• 20:04
  I smoke weed. I go on my balcony and I'm
• 20:07
  just smoking like a joint. I go back
• 20:09
  inside and I'm watching a video about
• 20:11
  Genesis, the creation of the earth,
• 20:14
  because I had never heard this growing
• 20:16
  up. I didn't go to Sunday school. So,
• 20:17
  I'm learning how the earth was created
• 20:18
  for the first time. And I'm watching
• 20:22
  that video so fascinated with like how
• 20:25
  God made everything. And then this was
• 20:27
  the first time that I um heard the
• 20:30
  audible voice of demons. It was so loud
• 20:33
  and grotesque. Like it gave me shivers.
• 20:36
  I remember watching a video about the
• 20:38
  book of Genesis. I'm high during this
• 20:40
  time. And all of a sudden, I hear the
• 20:44
  hear these like foreign voices. And I
• 20:46
  knew it was just three demons. I don't
• 20:47
  know how to explain how I knew it was
• 20:49
  three, but I knew it was three. And um I
• 20:53
  heard uh it was like the most grotesque
• 20:56
  voice. It was like, "You should be
• 20:58
  ashamed about loving God. You should be
• 21:00
  ashamed about researching about God. You
• 21:02
  should be ashamed about posting about
• 21:04
  God." And I wasn't even posting about
• 21:06
  him publicly, just on my close friend
• 21:08
  story, you know, but even that was like
• 21:10
  enough for demons to be upset about it.
• 21:13
  And um those voices, they I kept hearing
• 21:16
  them over and over and over again. And I
• 21:18
  started to get like anxiety for the
• 21:20
  first time where I'm like, "Dude, this
• 21:23
  is like freaking me out. I need to go to
• 21:26
  bed like and just wake up sober the next
• 21:29
  day." was so bad I went to bed at 8:00
• 21:30
  p.m. Uh because I couldn't stop hearing
• 21:33
  demons trying to pull me away from God
• 21:35
  and try to make me feel shame. And
• 21:37
  that's exactly what they operate under.
• 21:39
  They operate under shame. And I didn't
• 21:41
  know my theology. I didn't know that the
• 21:43
  devil works through shame and stuff. But
• 21:44
  that's what they were ministering to me.
• 21:46
  Shame, shame, shame. And they're still
• 21:48
  doing that today, you know, even to
• 21:50
  Christians. Like shame,
• 21:52
  it's literally from the devil. Uh, and I
• 21:55
  experienced that, you know, when I was
• 21:58
  high and trying to research about God.
• 22:01
  And so I remember that encounter, that
• 22:04
  demonic encounter I had with those
• 22:06
  demons when I was high was like enough
• 22:08
  for me to be like, "Okay, maybe this
• 22:10
  does open you up to the devil. Maybe
• 22:12
  this opens you up to Satan." Um, and so
• 22:14
  it was a struggle afterwards. Uh, it
• 22:16
  took me like a month or two, three
• 22:18
  months maybe max to completely overcome
• 22:21
  weed. But I would say that was like the
• 22:24
  last thing that God had set me free
• 22:27
  from. And I guess you could say the
• 22:29
  sanctification process started like
• 22:31
  pretty quickly cuz I remember I think it
• 22:34
  was like November. I'm clean off of
• 22:37
  everything. I haven't returned back to
• 22:39
  any of that stuff since. And I moved
• 22:42
  back home to San Diego where my parents
• 22:45
  were living at at the time cuz I was
• 22:46
  living in LA when all of this happened.
• 22:48
  San Diego is like 2 and a half hours
• 22:50
  away. And I was living in SD trying to
• 22:54
  figure out like who am I now? I've
• 22:56
  gotten saved. A lot of my desires are
• 22:59
  different.
• 23:00
  >> Like, you know, figuring out what my
• 23:03
  identity was in Jesus Christ, right?
• 23:05
  Because my whole life I had believed a
• 23:07
  false identity about myself. So, I go
• 23:10
  back home to kind of just figure out who
• 23:12
  am I? What do I like? Do I enjoy living
• 23:14
  here? Do I enjoy the same things that I
• 23:17
  did like a couple months prior? um what
• 23:21
  are my beliefs in terms of you know not
• 23:23
  just spirituality but also
• 23:25
  ideologically. Um God was completely
• 23:28
  transforming me and making me into a new
• 23:29
  person. And so I needed to be home with
• 23:32
  my family and just kind of have that uh
• 23:35
  I guess you could say uh safe ground of
• 23:38
  being able to figure out who I was. And
• 23:41
  during that time I was you know seeking
• 23:45
  God like never before. I was the only
• 23:48
  one in my house that was Christian. I'd
• 23:50
  be in my room. I'd be in prayer, be
• 23:52
  reading the word for hours on end
• 23:54
  praying in tonesues. Like I figured out
• 23:56
  how to pray in tonesues pretty quickly.
• 23:58
  Um just in worship. And I was so locked
• 24:02
  in and in communion with God. And I
• 24:04
  started to really hear from God like
• 24:06
  audibly. Um and I realized like, oh, I
• 24:10
  can actually speak to God. Like God can
• 24:11
  speak to me. And I remember um one day,
• 24:15
  this was probably the most powerful
• 24:16
  encounter um I've had with the Lord. I
• 24:20
  remember there was a point where I was
• 24:23
  in my office. That's where I would pray.
• 24:26
  I'd read my Bible and um I I God like
• 24:30
  completely took over my body. Like I
• 24:32
  have never had an experience where I was
• 24:34
  completely like possessed by God and to
• 24:36
  where I wasn't in control and it was
• 24:38
  like God completely just doing
• 24:40
  everything through me. And what happened
• 24:41
  is the Holy Spirit takes over my body.
• 24:45
  Um, I flip open my computer and I just
• 24:49
  start typing like a sermon out of
• 24:51
  nowhere. And I, you know, wasn't a
• 24:53
  preacher. I didn't have any experience
• 24:55
  with that. Um, I didn't even think that
• 24:58
  I was going to be preaching the gospel
• 25:00
  or, you know, being a place of teaching
• 25:03
  and evangelism. Uh I didn't a lot of
• 25:06
  people that get saved and they can't
• 25:08
  wait to teach right away and which is I
• 25:11
  understand that um people are passionate
• 25:13
  about the gospel and stuff but
• 25:15
  >> you have to also pray and ask the Lord
• 25:17
  like if that's your calling specifically
• 25:19
  because the book of James also says you
• 25:21
  know not everybody should be teachers
• 25:23
  you know we'll be judged with greater
• 25:25
  strictness.
• 25:26
  >> Um so I didn't choose to do this. This
• 25:28
  was God doing it completely through me
• 25:30
  but I remember um I flip open my
• 25:33
  computer. God's completely working
• 25:35
  through me and I'm typing like a whole
• 25:37
  sermon out of nowhere and I'm not even
• 25:40
  in control. The best way I would
• 25:42
  describe it is like
• 25:44
  um like my soul is like in the passenger
• 25:47
  seat and God is driving right now, which
• 25:50
  it's very similar to if anyone's ever
• 25:52
  been through deliverance. Obviously,
• 25:53
  it's the opposite realm um where you
• 25:57
  know a demon will take over and your
• 25:58
  soul will be in the passenger seat. Um,
• 26:00
  but this time it was the Holy Spirit
• 26:02
  taking over completely. And so I'm not
• 26:05
  in control of my body. I'm typing a
• 26:07
  sermon on my computer and I hear the
• 26:09
  Holy Spirit say, "Go downstairs and film
• 26:11
  that and post that." So I just was
• 26:15
  obedient. I went downstairs. Um, I took
• 26:18
  my phone, went in my parents' backyard,
• 26:20
  I started preaching like my first ever
• 26:22
  sermon, and I posted it on TikTok. And I
• 26:27
  heard the audible voice of God say when
• 26:29
  I posted that this is all you're going
• 26:31
  to be doing from now on. And that was
• 26:33
  the day, I think it was like November
• 26:36
  uh like November 19th or something like
• 26:38
  that of 20
• 26:41
  uh 21 I believe where um I just knew
• 26:45
  right then and there that preaching the
• 26:47
  gospel of Jesus Christ is what I was
• 26:50
  always made to do
• 26:51
  >> and God had to really like show me that
• 26:54
  that's what I was called to do. Cuz I
• 26:56
  wasn't planning on that. I was planning
• 26:58
  on not doing social media anymore. um
• 27:01
  working like a regular job and stuff
• 27:03
  like that. I never imagined myself to be
• 27:05
  like a Christian content creator. That
• 27:08
  wasn't really my goal, but like it was
• 27:11
  all the Lord. Like the Lord literally
• 27:13
  orchestrated that and made me do that
• 27:15
  and told me that's what I'm going to be
• 27:16
  doing. And um now like looking at the
• 27:19
  grand scheme of things, I'm very glad
• 27:21
  that I obeyed that and I followed that
• 27:24
  call because you know a lot of fruit has
• 27:27
  um been borne as a result of that. I've
• 27:29
  had people come up and share like how,
• 27:31
  you know, my testimony or the ministry
• 27:34
  that God is doing through me is the
• 27:35
  reason they gave their lives to Jesus
• 27:37
  Christ. Like I had a guy in my church
• 27:39
  who's new at our church here and he came
• 27:41
  up to me and you know, this was very
• 27:44
  recently and said, you know, my
• 27:46
  testimony is the reason that he got
• 27:47
  saved. And he just got saved like a
• 27:49
  month ago. So like, you know, people to
• 27:51
  this day are still um giving their lives
• 27:54
  to Jesus Christ because I obeyed God's
• 27:56
  call on my life. And you know, I treat
• 27:59
  it with a lot of reverence. I don't
• 28:01
  treat it with just like, oh, I'm this is
• 28:03
  just what I do. I'm just making content.
• 28:05
  Like, it's like an altar unto God. Um,
• 28:09
  and so, yeah, that's basically kind of
• 28:11
  in a nutshell how I got from where I was
• 28:14
  to here. And I'm very, very blessed to
• 28:16
  be able to do this like as a full-time
• 28:18
  thing, too. Um,
• 28:20
  >> and, you know, went through a lot of
• 28:22
  persecution in the beginning making
• 28:24
  Christian videos online, especially
• 28:26
  because people know me from the world.
• 28:27
  they don't know me as like a as a
• 28:30
  Christian. And I wasn't just preaching
• 28:31
  the Jesus loves you stuff either. I was
• 28:33
  calling out um you know the sexual
• 28:35
  degeneracy and perversion that's pushed
• 28:37
  upon our children. I was calling out
• 28:39
  abortion. I was calling out these other
• 28:42
  religions frauds and fakes and exposing
• 28:45
  them. Um and I wasn't doing that out of
• 28:47
  a place of hatred obviously. I'm doing
• 28:49
  that because I love truth and I want
• 28:51
  people to break free from deception.
• 28:54
  >> Um because there's a lot of deception
• 28:56
  out there. And so, uh, you know, God was
• 28:59
  raising me up to kind of just be like a
• 29:01
  voice and expose all of these things.
• 29:03
  And that's what a lot of people know me
• 29:05
  for from the beginning is exposing a lot
• 29:08
  of false belief systems cuz I truly
• 29:11
  believe that um, you know, we have to
• 29:14
  know like it's like why do we believe
• 29:16
  that Jesus Christ is real? because it
• 29:19
  makes us feel good because we live in a
• 29:20
  Christian country or is it because
• 29:22
  there's viable evidence that all of
• 29:26
  these other religions uh are fraudulent?
• 29:29
  They're fake and they were created by
• 29:30
  the devil and I can show you why. You
• 29:32
  know, like even in Hinduism, Hinduism,
• 29:34
  Islam, Buddhism, I study this stuff
• 29:37
  after I got saved to understand like why
• 29:40
  do I believe in what I believe in? Yes,
• 29:42
  I had an encounter with God, but I want
• 29:44
  to make sure like that Christianity is
• 29:47
  true. you know, I want to be able to
• 29:48
  defend the faith um and examine like why
• 29:52
  I believe this stuff. And so, you know,
• 29:54
  I got a lot of controversy for that when
• 29:56
  I first started making videos exposing
• 29:58
  all of these different things. And I'm
• 29:59
  sure, you know, you exposed a lot of new
• 30:01
  age stuff. I'm sure there's a lot of
• 30:02
  push back with what you do, too. Because
• 30:05
  >> what the devil would really love is the
• 30:08
  non-confrontational
• 30:10
  Jesus loves you Christian. I'm not going
• 30:12
  to get involved in [clears throat]
• 30:15
  touching on these other things. I'm just
• 30:17
  going to talk about God's love, God's
• 30:20
  grace.
• 30:21
  >> Um, which is great. Like obviously God
• 30:23
  is love and God has a lot of grace, but
• 30:27
  [clears throat] you know, if that's all
• 30:28
  people hear, I mean, what's that what's
• 30:32
  that going to do in terms of breaking
• 30:34
  people free from wrong mindsets come,
• 30:36
  you have to kind of lay things out and
• 30:39
  show people like, hey, you can't be
• 30:41
  doing this, you can't be doing that.
• 30:42
  Like, there are rules. And uh and that's
• 30:45
  what Christianity is. Like there are
• 30:47
  rules that God created that you have to
• 30:49
  abide by. If you don't want to play by
• 30:51
  those rules, you're not going to
• 30:52
  experience God, you know. Um when we get
• 30:55
  into the feel-good loveydovey stuff,
• 30:57
  it's like the rules kind of go out the
• 30:58
  window and we're just hearing what our
• 31:00
  flesh wants to hear, which is
• 31:02
  gratification, love, grace, and stuff.
• 31:04
  You know, kind of going on that too. I'm
• 31:06
  going to go on a side tangent here, but
• 31:08
  Jordan Peterson explained this really
• 31:10
  well. Um, let's play a game.
• 31:14
  A
• 31:15
  >> and and and you don't have any rules in
• 31:17
  the game. It's not fun. You can't
• 31:19
  actually experience the joy within the
• 31:21
  game because there's no structure,
• 31:23
  there's no rules. It's the same thing
• 31:25
  with Christianity. If there's no
• 31:26
  structure, if there's no rules, you're
• 31:28
  not going to be able to experience the
• 31:30
  joy of God's presence because Jesus says
• 31:33
  that God is spirit. Those who worship
• 31:35
  him must worship him in spirit and in
• 31:38
  truth. And so these rules are are God's
• 31:42
  truth that have been revealed to us. And
• 31:45
  um when you kind of stray away from
• 31:47
  that, and I guess you could say this is
• 31:50
  kind of like the only uh criticism I
• 31:53
  have with a lot of like the charismatic
• 31:55
  stuff, which I would consider myself
• 31:56
  that. I pray in tongues. I cast demons
• 31:58
  out. So, I'm not uh you know dogging on
• 32:01
  people who believe in that theology, but
• 32:04
  mostly in our um Protestant circles, I
• 32:08
  guess you could say, there's a lot of
• 32:09
  this like God's grace, God's love, it's
• 32:13
  not a religion, it's a relationship. And
• 32:16
  it's like I feel like that can be kind
• 32:17
  of dangerous because yeah,
• 32:19
  >> if I had based my theology off of that,
• 32:22
  I probably still would have been smoking
• 32:23
  weed. I probably still would have been
• 32:25
  getting drunk. I probably still would
• 32:27
  have been in fornication. If I'm like,
• 32:28
  "Oh, there's, you know, we don't need
• 32:30
  rules. We don't uh need all of this
• 32:33
  stuff. God is love and his grace is
• 32:34
  sufficient." It's like, you have to kind
• 32:36
  of show people, hey, hell is real.
• 32:39
  Judgment is real. You have to live by
• 32:41
  what God says. Um, and so I went through
• 32:44
  a lot of persecution. Uh, people I grew
• 32:46
  up with cut me off. They didn't want to
• 32:48
  talk to me anymore.
• 32:50
  um a lot of money that I made in the
• 32:52
  world from sponsorships and stuff, they
• 32:54
  all dropped out cuz
• 32:55
  >> they're like, "Uh oh,
• 32:57
  >> this guy's a homophobic Christian
• 32:58
  telling people to repent of their sins.
• 33:00
  We can't be giving this guy brand deals
• 33:02
  and stuff." So, I lost a lot of money. I
• 33:04
  went from having like well over 100K in
• 33:07
  my bank account to like maybe 4K within
• 33:09
  the span of like uh a year or two. And
• 33:13
  by the grace of God, he restored all of
• 33:15
  that. and I was able to buy a house like
• 33:18
  half a year ago. Um, but during that
• 33:21
  time I was really being tested in every
• 33:24
  area possible. Tested in terms of
• 33:27
  relationships, tested in terms of
• 33:29
  financial security. Um,
• 33:32
  and and God took everything away from me
• 33:34
  for me to really realize he's all I
• 33:36
  have. Um, to where I couldn't just do
• 33:38
  the Christian thing and always be
• 33:40
  successful off of it. Um, to where I'm
• 33:42
  like, "Oh, you know what? I can rely on
• 33:44
  God and my own ability and my own
• 33:47
  finances. God literally stripped me of
• 33:49
  everything just like Job and restored it
• 33:52
  all because even in my lowest moment, I
• 33:56
  was like, I am never going to give up
• 33:59
  on preaching the gospel. I'm never going
• 34:01
  to give up on serving Jesus Christ. I
• 34:03
  don't care if I have to sleep in my car.
• 34:06
  And I don't share this a lot, but uh to
• 34:09
  kind of give you a perspective, there
• 34:11
  was a time where what I believed in,
• 34:12
  what I believed in uh did not even give
• 34:15
  me the ability to go back home. I was
• 34:17
  not allowed to go home to my parents
• 34:19
  house. So like literally I was in Texas,
• 34:22
  moved out of California, two months of
• 34:24
  rent left in my bank account. I've never
• 34:26
  had uh that little amount of money in my
• 34:29
  bank ever because even when I was 15 and
• 34:31
  I started social media, I was making so
• 34:33
  much money. like I would get $30,000 for
• 34:36
  deals on on Vine as a teenager, right?
• 34:38
  So to go from having like a surplus
• 34:41
  amount of money to barely anything left.
• 34:44
  Um I really realized like man, God is my
• 34:47
  provider. I have nobody but him. I can't
• 34:49
  even go home as a fallback option. Like
• 34:52
  I have to rely on Jesus Christ that he's
• 34:54
  going to get me out of this situation.
• 34:56
  And I know what the Bible says. Like I
• 34:58
  didn't have a poverty mindset. King
• 34:59
  David says he's never seen the righteous
• 35:01
  begging for bread. I believe that God
• 35:03
  does want to bless his people. We just
• 35:06
  have to be obedient in what he's telling
• 35:07
  us to do. And we we can't waver. We
• 35:10
  can't uh compromise. If we live a
• 35:12
  uncompromised life, we'll be successful.
• 35:13
  I truly believe that. And during that
• 35:17
  moment, I really realized like God is
• 35:18
  all I have. He's my only source. And you
• 35:22
  know, I remember the last amount of
• 35:24
  money that I had, I spent it on a film
• 35:27
  setup and I started my YouTube channel.
• 35:29
  And within 3 months like or four months,
• 35:32
  everything that had I had lost over the
• 35:34
  past year or two instantly came back in
• 35:37
  terms of revenue. And I realized like
• 35:40
  man, I'm so grateful that like I never
• 35:42
  compromised. Um I never forsook the
• 35:45
  Lord. I never I never once in my mind
• 35:48
  thought like that he wasn't watching
• 35:50
  over me or that he wasn't faithful to
• 35:52
  restore everything that the devil had
• 35:53
  taken from me, you know. Um, and I live
• 35:56
  with that even to this day now that the
• 35:58
  Lord has blessed me in in that area of
• 36:00
  finances. I will never forget that
• 36:02
  moment where I basically had nothing and
• 36:05
  God came through and turned it all
• 36:06
  around. And I had to go through that
• 36:08
  because um there's not a day in my life
• 36:10
  where I can trust in myself anymore. I
• 36:12
  know what it was like when I had
• 36:14
  nothing. And I know what it was like now
• 36:16
  that the Lord has blessed me. And either
• 36:19
  way, he's in control. Even if I'm doing
• 36:21
  good, even if life is comfortable, I
• 36:23
  know that it's not because of my own
• 36:25
  ability or my own strength. It's all
• 36:27
  because of him.
• 36:28
  >> So good. There's like, okay, you crazy
• 36:30
  just minister to me. You don't even know
• 36:32
  it. But there are so many parallels
• 36:34
  between everything you just shared and
• 36:36
  everything that I have gone through and
• 36:38
  even am going through in different ways.
• 36:40
  But I want to go back for a second in
• 36:43
  2020 cuz we were talking just a little
• 36:44
  bit about this before we started
• 36:46
  recording. It's just wild because I
• 36:49
  obviously we're not the only two people
• 36:51
  on the earth that started going down all
• 36:53
  those rabbit holes. That was like the
• 36:54
  prime time
• 36:55
  >> because like you said, you had nothing
• 36:57
  but time. Yeah.
• 36:59
  >> Just to sit and to ponder and so same
• 37:02
  with me it's like
• 37:04
  >> the weed the waste and then
• 37:08
  >> you know you just get online and then
• 37:10
  all this stuff is happening and it's
• 37:11
  like okay there's something like deeper
• 37:13
  here. So I started same thing like you
• 37:15
  know Ellen and Epstein and Tom Hanks and
• 37:19
  like Adrenochrome like all this stuff
• 37:21
  like just very quickly I'm learning all
• 37:23
  about it
• 37:24
  >> and it was the same thing for me. I'm
• 37:27
  like, "Wow, these people all literally
• 37:29
  worship Satan." Mhm.
• 37:31
  >> And I don't even know how I felt about
• 37:33
  the idea of Satan as an actual entity as
• 37:37
  much as a metaphor at that time,
• 37:39
  >> but it started to register like, okay,
• 37:41
  well, there is something very real go
• 37:44
  like there's there's a tangibility like
• 37:46
  a probability to this
• 37:48
  >> that they think he I guess he is
• 37:53
  somebody that should be revered to gain
• 37:56
  whatever they're gaining from it through
• 37:58
  these really disgusting means. Yeah.
• 38:01
  >> Um, and so because I was a new age at
• 38:05
  the time, and this is why I think a lot
• 38:07
  of people that have more of that
• 38:09
  atheistic worldview or like agnostic
• 38:11
  worldview
• 38:13
  in a way, like you kind of had an
• 38:15
  advantage to me because I already
• 38:17
  thought I had it figured out with the
• 38:18
  spirituality thing. I'm like, okay, so
• 38:19
  there is good and evil, but I already
• 38:21
  know God, so I'm I'm fine. Like Jesus is
• 38:24
  an ascended master. Jesus is whatever.
• 38:26
  G. So, I just was able to now like
• 38:30
  categorize mentally that
• 38:33
  everything is a duality. And that's like
• 38:35
  what I started to move. It's funny
• 38:37
  because I'm like researching all this
• 38:38
  occult symbolism, Freemasonry, and then
• 38:41
  I put myself under this same belief
• 38:44
  system cuz that's what they're all
• 38:45
  they're all about the duality thing.
• 38:46
  Right.
• 38:47
  >> Right.
• 38:47
  >> So, I'm like, "Oh, yeah. This is all
• 38:49
  demonic and wrong, but now I believe it
• 38:51
  too." But for for whatever reason, for
• 38:53
  whatever reason, it's righteous when I
• 38:55
  think this way.
• 38:56
  >> [laughter]
• 38:57
  >> That is so interesting. Like, and I did,
• 39:00
  one thing I forgot to mention, I did go
• 39:02
  down the new age rabbit hole for a
• 39:04
  little bit, too. Um, but I realized
• 39:07
  like, wait, they believe the same stuff.
• 39:09
  Like, they believe in the karmic laws of
• 39:11
  the universe and mother earth and all of
• 39:14
  this garbage. Um, and I guess like the
• 39:18
  most puzzling thing for me is like the
• 39:21
  newagers who know about all of that
• 39:23
  stuff, but they still reject Jesus
• 39:25
  Christ. It's like, dude, you know that
• 39:27
  these people are worshiping Satan and
• 39:30
  and you're still into the new age stuff.
• 39:32
  You're still into the chakra balancing
• 39:34
  and the meditation stuff. Like you look
• 39:36
  even at the Epstein files, like Epste
• 39:38
  was around these folks like Deepuk
• 39:39
  Chopra. Like these satanic people love
• 39:42
  that stuff. They love the new age stuff.
• 39:44
  They love the collective consciousness
• 39:46
  garbage and stuff like that. And so, um,
• 39:50
  I don't know how people I mean, I know
• 39:52
  why it's the veil that the devil has put
• 39:54
  over people, but it's like, dude, how do
• 39:56
  you see all this occultic stuff, see all
• 39:59
  of these satanic people following the
• 40:01
  same thing that you follow and still not
• 40:03
  making the connection that you're wrong?
• 40:05
  >> It's crazy, you know,
• 40:06
  >> and you know, for me, it's like cuz you
• 40:08
  think you're so spiritual when you're in
• 40:10
  that world, like you think you're just
• 40:12
  like floating in the in the ether.
• 40:14
  >> Yeah.
• 40:15
  >> But you're so incredibly carnal. And the
• 40:17
  Bible even says that like
• 40:19
  >> you cannot perceive the things of the
• 40:22
  spirit when you are in carnality. And
• 40:24
  when you don't have the spirit of the
• 40:26
  living God,
• 40:27
  >> you are carnal no matter how spiritual
• 40:29
  you think you are. So for me,
• 40:31
  >> my what I thought was the epiphany that
• 40:34
  was like breaking through at that time
• 40:36
  was like, oh, liberalism is wrong, so
• 40:39
  now I'm a Republican. Like that was that
• 40:41
  was my saving grace. It's like, oh wow,
• 40:44
  Donald Trump, I literally thought he was
• 40:45
  a star seed and [laughter]
• 40:48
  that like we were from the same
• 40:50
  constellation and he had come here to
• 40:52
  like ascend the collective. And so then
• 40:55
  I became like MAGA and I was I was
• 40:57
  telling you I was like the only newager
• 40:59
  that I knew that was
• 41:00
  conservativeleaning. Mhm.
• 41:02
  >> And so that's where I stood. And
• 41:05
  honestly, all that stuff only got shaken
• 41:07
  up for me within the last year where I'm
• 41:09
  like, actually, uh,
• 41:12
  >> two wings of the same bird.
• 41:13
  >> Same bird. And that it's that's crazy. A
• 41:16
  lot of people are going through that
• 41:17
  awakening right now, too. Um, even in
• 41:19
  the political sphere, cuz I was super
• 41:21
  MAGA as well. Um, I was MAGA before I
• 41:25
  was a Christian.
• 41:26
  >> Me, too. Um,
• 41:28
  >> and this was in LA in like 2016. Like if
• 41:32
  you were if you were Yeah. Like if you
• 41:34
  were
• 41:34
  >> OG like precog precoid um
• 41:38
  >> dude if you were a conservative
• 41:41
  Republican in LA in that year, you were
• 41:43
  literally treated like you were in the
• 41:45
  Third Reich or something, you know? Um
• 41:47
  like it was crazy. It's kind of
• 41:49
  disappointing because uh I feel like it
• 41:51
  was almost all for nothing realizing
• 41:53
  that they've sold this out. I would
• 41:55
  seriously consider like I would question
• 41:59
  your salvation if you're going to vote
• 42:00
  for people like that. Um
• 42:02
  >> because obviously look at what they
• 42:04
  stand for. They stand for everything
• 42:05
  anti- good. But you know in my mind I'm
• 42:08
  like okay well these this is obviously
• 42:09
  these are the devil's disciples. So then
• 42:11
  the Republican side must be like you
• 42:14
  know they're all Christian and they
• 42:15
  believe in conservatism.
• 42:17
  But what's so interesting is like
• 42:20
  conservatism
• 42:21
  uh is not really godly anymore either. I
• 42:25
  mean, it comes from biblical principles
• 42:26
  and stuff, but these people, they don't
• 42:29
  they're not worshiping the Lord. They're
• 42:31
  not like in communion with God like
• 42:32
  that. I'm thinking that that's the other
• 42:34
  alternative because a lot of the
• 42:36
  principles do come from the Bible. But
• 42:38
  that's been really disappointing, too,
• 42:40
  especially with this administration. I
• 42:42
  mean, and I was talking about this the
• 42:44
  other day. It just seems like um it's I
• 42:48
  always had this suspicion that like I
• 42:51
  guess I never really trusted the
• 42:53
  Republican party. I just like Trump back
• 42:55
  in the day cuz I thought he was
• 42:56
  anti-establishment.
• 42:58
  Seems like he became everything that he
• 43:00
  campaigned against. So, I'm kind of at
• 43:03
  the point now where I'm like, you know
• 43:04
  what, man? This world's really corrupt.
• 43:07
  I'm just I can't wait for Jesus to come
• 43:09
  back and rule the earth again. Exactly.
• 43:11
  [laughter]
• 43:11
  >> And I think for me like too I think the
• 43:13
  biggest thing was like the Charlie Kirk
• 43:15
  thing
• 43:15
  >> Yeah.
• 43:16
  >> just started
• 43:17
  >> to it started to open my eyes in a way
• 43:20
  that similar to how everything with with
• 43:23
  co did.
• 43:24
  >> I'm like there's something deeper going
• 43:25
  on.
• 43:26
  >> Yeah.
• 43:26
  >> And I don't have it all figured out. And
• 43:29
  now I'm in a place where it's like quite
• 43:31
  literally Jesus is the only hope. Like
• 43:34
  he's literally it. There's there's
• 43:36
  nothing else. There's nothing of this
• 43:38
  world that we can depend on or rely on
• 43:40
  or put our faith in.
• 43:41
  >> Yep.
• 43:42
  >> Or our allegiance in,
• 43:43
  >> right?
• 43:43
  >> I remember we went to like a memorial
• 43:45
  for Charlie and they're like, "Let's do
• 43:47
  the pledge of allegiance." And I and I
• 43:48
  go to do and I'm like, "Wait a minute.
• 43:50
  I'm not doing this." Yeah.
• 43:51
  >> I'm not going to pledge my allegiance to
• 43:52
  the flag. Are you kidding [laughter] me?
• 43:54
  What? Like, and then it's just like, you
• 43:57
  know, like when things start like when
• 43:59
  the Lord starts showing you something
• 44:00
  and you just kind of like dig your heels
• 44:01
  and you're like, "Wait, I'm not ready
• 44:02
  for this. I'm not ready to know how deep
• 44:04
  this goes now."
• 44:05
  >> Right. Right. And so that's where I just
• 44:08
  started me and me and Mike just started
• 44:10
  to go down this different different kind
• 44:12
  of a rabbit hole. And um I agree with
• 44:15
  you. I do see a lot of that. And and I
• 44:17
  think it's it's obviously
• 44:19
  >> all God wanting to wake his people up to
• 44:24
  >> not just versions of truth like little
• 44:27
  T's here and there, but just like the
• 44:28
  ultimate capital T. You know, you think
• 44:32
  you know me, but you you're not fully
• 44:36
  immersed in this word. Like what it
• 44:39
  actually says about me and about the
• 44:42
  world when it says the all of it is
• 44:44
  under the sway of the evil one. Yeah.
• 44:46
  >> That doesn't extinguish the Republican
• 44:49
  party. Like it's all of it,
• 44:51
  >> right?
• 44:52
  >> I would argue they're even worse because
• 44:53
  they at least with the Democratic party,
• 44:56
  they're very open about their Satanism.
• 44:58
  But like in in the Republican party,
• 45:00
  they they pretend to do the whole
• 45:02
  Christian thing and they're doing the
• 45:03
  same stuff behind her back. So, um
• 45:06
  >> you know, I would say that that's even
• 45:08
  worse because you're you're putting on a
• 45:10
  costume like a Christian costume and
• 45:12
  screwing us over just like the other
• 45:13
  side is. You know,
• 45:14
  >> I think it's the biggest sigh up in the
• 45:16
  world because like people, like I said,
• 45:19
  even like me in 2020, like you think
• 45:22
  you're coming into
• 45:25
  um like goodness and righteousness. So,
• 45:28
  I think a lot of people are still being
• 45:30
  shaken up in that same way like in the
• 45:32
  world that where they they feel like
• 45:36
  >> they're starting to think like abortion
• 45:38
  is wrong. They're starting which it is
• 45:40
  obviously things like that. And so then
• 45:42
  they become
• 45:43
  more conservativeleaning and they think
• 45:46
  that now they're following the narrow
• 45:48
  way,
• 45:49
  >> right?
• 45:49
  >> And it's just it's just like the whole
• 45:51
  polit the political system like the
• 45:53
  Hegelian dialect is just
• 45:55
  >> it's the biggest scup ever.
• 45:57
  >> There are so many layers to this matrix,
• 45:59
  it's absolutely insane. Like even when I
• 46:02
  think that I've figured it out, God will
• 46:05
  then peel back another layer of the
• 46:07
  onion and I'll be like, "Oh my gosh,
• 46:09
  there's something more." like even in
• 46:11
  the last um I would say like two years,
• 46:14
  two to three years, especially with like
• 46:17
  the whole dispens I think the final um
• 46:20
  the final layer of like my awakening is
• 46:23
  probably like the whole like
• 46:25
  deprogramming from dispensationalist
• 46:27
  theology and stuff like that and
• 46:29
  realizing that like that was created as
• 46:31
  a way to like send money to a foreign
• 46:33
  government and it's like I would have
• 46:35
  never expected that to even be the case
• 46:38
  um like 2 years ago, 3 years ago. go.
• 46:40
  Every year God is like revealing
• 46:42
  something new to me and it just makes me
• 46:44
  realize like just like you said in first
• 46:46
  John, the whole power of the world lies
• 46:48
  in the hands of the evil one. And you
• 46:50
  know Jesus says that the devil is the
• 46:52
  father of all lies which means like the
• 46:55
  OG liar is running this world. So this
• 46:58
  world is full of lies and full of
• 47:00
  deception everywhere.
• 47:02
  >> That's why like we need you need to we
• 47:05
  need to be in communion with the Holy
• 47:07
  Spirit.
• 47:07
  >> It's literally the Holy Spirit. He's the
• 47:10
  only one that's ever going to like break
• 47:12
  us free from literally this entire
• 47:14
  atmosphere of deception. Um and so if if
• 47:19
  you're not in tune with the Holy Spirit,
• 47:21
  if you're not in relationship with him,
• 47:23
  it is so easy to get finessed. It's
• 47:25
  insane.
• 47:25
  >> Yeah. And everything we're talking
• 47:27
  about, as extreme as it sounds, it's
• 47:29
  like the tip of the iceberg. Like the
• 47:31
  child sacrifice, you saying you saw that
• 47:34
  video them like cutting themselves, like
• 47:36
  blood rituals, that is like level one.
• 47:38
  Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]
• 47:40
  >> How evil. And that isn't that that's so
• 47:43
  disturbing that that's one. Yeah.
• 47:45
  Literally the fact that that's base
• 47:47
  level. Like it seems like that should be
• 47:49
  the very last level. But um yeah, I
• 47:52
  mean, man, there's there's been crazy
• 47:54
  things like um crazy things that I that
• 47:58
  I've seen even with like the Epstein
• 48:00
  files and stuff like cuz I remember even
• 48:02
  when um I was going through that
• 48:05
  awakening. I already knew that that
• 48:07
  stuff was going on like the whole child
• 48:09
  trafficking stuff and um the Epstein
• 48:12
  stuff. But
• 48:14
  >> even recently, like I realized that it
• 48:17
  gets even darker than we imagine. I
• 48:19
  remember like I know this is kind of off
• 48:21
  topic but I have ADD so I tend to do
• 48:23
  that. It's great for podcasts though
• 48:25
  because you get a lot of clips out of
• 48:26
  it. But [laughter]
• 48:28
  um I remember uh like even recently I
• 48:31
  was uh looking at the Epstein files and
• 48:35
  I'm I saw uh these files where he was
• 48:38
  working with like Deepo Chopra which is
• 48:40
  like a huge you know new age guru by the
• 48:44
  way in my culture like Deepuk Chopra is
• 48:47
  like woripped. And so when he was in
• 48:49
  those files to see like all my relatives
• 48:52
  like kind of break free from that spell,
• 48:54
  I was like, "Praise God that he did
• 48:56
  that." You know, I know people who were
• 48:58
  like friends with him personally who
• 48:59
  don't talk to him anymore because of
• 49:01
  that.
• 49:02
  >> And uh I saw that they were figuring out
• 49:04
  a way to literally like swap people's
• 49:08
  souls and stuff like through technology.
• 49:11
  So, like the I bring that up to say
• 49:13
  this, like the rabbit hole always goes
• 49:16
  even darker uh than you would ever
• 49:18
  imagine. Yeah.
• 49:19
  >> And
• 49:20
  >> if you don't have Jesus Christ in your
• 49:22
  life, you will literally go bonkers.
• 49:25
  >> You'll go crazy.
• 49:26
  >> You know, I remember when I was going
• 49:28
  through that awakening and stuff, I
• 49:30
  there was a point where I felt like I
• 49:32
  was about to go crazy because I'm
• 49:34
  learning all of this like dark evil
• 49:37
  stuff. And I've never I never in my mind
• 49:39
  did I think that this was possible had I
• 49:42
  not ended up, you know, coming to faith
• 49:45
  in Christ. It probably would have became
• 49:46
  like a schizophrenic or something like
• 49:48
  that. [laughter] You know,
• 49:49
  >> let me ask you this cuz I think this is
• 49:51
  a really important conversation and I
• 49:53
  think that something I've been um really
• 49:57
  wrestling with slashconvicted on in the
• 50:00
  last like sixish months is so I am 100%
• 50:05
  in a ministry of expos exposure like
• 50:09
  that's from the from day one my first
• 50:11
  video is like hey new ages of deception.
• 50:13
  Yeah.
• 50:14
  >> So I understand the biblical precedent
• 50:16
  for it. I understand the necessity for
• 50:18
  it. Even just you sharing 45 minutes of
• 50:20
  your testimony saying going down the
• 50:22
  rabbit holes and realizing Jesus was at
• 50:24
  the bottom of every single one of them.
• 50:25
  That is so important and it happens all
• 50:27
  the time. Even me, even though I didn't
• 50:29
  get saved in 2020, those seeds were
• 50:32
  being planted and God used them later as
• 50:34
  like a way to lead me in the back door.
• 50:36
  Cuz I told you pre-roll, that's how I
• 50:38
  found Kevin. and he was like planting
• 50:40
  little biblical seeds and he ended up
• 50:42
  being the one I reached out to
• 50:44
  >> that pushed me over the edge because he
• 50:46
  sent me a Bible verse on astrology and I
• 50:48
  got born again. So I understand
• 50:52
  150% the need for exposure and the way
• 50:55
  that God will use the darkness to reveal
• 50:57
  the light of the world. But I also see
• 51:00
  it especially in the climate that we are
• 51:04
  in right now online where everything is
• 51:06
  just rage bait.
• 51:07
  >> Yeah. And like obviously our phones and
• 51:10
  the algorithms are designed to keep you
• 51:12
  addicted and hooked
• 51:14
  >> and out of your word and out of
• 51:16
  presence. So it becomes almost like
• 51:18
  that's that's the only thing that will
• 51:20
  perform well at this point is if like
• 51:22
  you're talking about Epstein.
• 51:24
  >> Yeah.
• 51:24
  >> Kind of thing,
• 51:25
  >> right? And it's created this tension
• 51:28
  where even though it's important to talk
• 51:29
  about, you kind of like don't want to
• 51:31
  because you're you're I've at least
• 51:34
  noticed that a lot of Christians have
• 51:36
  just their entire ministry has just
• 51:39
  become like here's what the devil's
• 51:40
  doing and no one ever talks about what
• 51:42
  God's doing anymore. I don't know if
• 51:43
  you've noticed that or if like you've
• 51:44
  discerned that, but where do you think
• 51:47
  like the line is between exposure and
• 51:50
  then you know cuz people love to quote
• 51:52
  that verse expose the works of the devil
• 51:54
  but then it also says on the counter of
• 51:55
  that don't participate in it and so at
• 51:58
  what point are we exposing versus
• 52:00
  actually participating in the thing we
• 52:02
  think we're exposing. Does that make
• 52:03
  sense?
• 52:03
  >> 100%. Yeah. You know, I think that there
• 52:05
  is a healthy balance and um even with
• 52:09
  like my videos and stuff, I used to be
• 52:11
  like really big and exposing
• 52:14
  >> false religions, exposing witchcraft,
• 52:16
  all of that. Like I learned a lot about
• 52:18
  these things.
• 52:18
  >> Yeah.
• 52:19
  >> Um
• 52:21
  >> and you know, I think that over time
• 52:24
  like yeah, there does need to be like
• 52:26
  more of a transition into speaking about
• 52:29
  what God is doing. For sure. You know,
• 52:30
  and it's interesting you bring up that
• 52:32
  scripture about um exposing the works of
• 52:35
  darkness. If you read the full passage,
• 52:37
  the way that we expose uh darkness is by
• 52:40
  being the light, is by showing people
• 52:43
  the other side. Um there is a lot of
• 52:46
  It's funny you said like the rage bait
• 52:47
  stuff. There is a lot of rage bait stuff
• 52:49
  of like, you know, I'm going to expose
• 52:51
  this warlock. I'm going to expose this
• 52:53
  witch. And it's like, bro, like how
• 52:55
  about we get, you know, how about we get
• 52:56
  to the Bible? You know, I feel like a
• 52:58
  lot of people, they're very consumed,
• 53:01
  >> which I understand people are curious
• 53:02
  and I was too. They're very consumed in
• 53:04
  like all the evil stuff and all the
• 53:06
  satanic stuff that is going on.
• 53:08
  >> Um,
• 53:09
  >> now you can use that to bring people to
• 53:12
  Jesus Christ like
• 53:14
  >> and and the best way that you can preach
• 53:16
  the gospel is the same way that you got
• 53:18
  saved
• 53:19
  >> because you can speak through
• 53:20
  authenticity and experience. Um,
• 53:23
  >> that's great. That's really good. It
• 53:24
  should always be to tie back into Christ
• 53:26
  though, right? Um
• 53:29
  I don't necessarily think that it's bad
• 53:32
  to go about it that route, but when that
• 53:34
  becomes your fixation and you're always
• 53:36
  talking about what the devil is doing
• 53:37
  all day, that's when you subconsciously
• 53:40
  start to worship him. Because worship is
• 53:42
  whatever you devote your attention to
• 53:43
  and your time to. But using that as
• 53:46
  quote unquote bait to reel people into
• 53:49
  the gospel, I don't necessarily view
• 53:51
  that as bad. And here's why. Because um
• 53:53
  when Jesus was approaching the
• 53:55
  disciples, he used I guess you could say
• 53:58
  a form of bait. He went to fishermen and
• 54:00
  said, "I'm going to make you a fisher of
• 54:02
  men." It's like a hook, you know? He's
• 54:05
  he's it's like bait, but it's like he's
• 54:08
  relating to what their field is so he
• 54:10
  can pull them in to like what the father
• 54:12
  wants to show them. So, um
• 54:14
  >> that's good.
• 54:15
  >> As long as you're doing it in a way
• 54:16
  where it's going to glorify God, it's
• 54:18
  going to bring people back to Jesus
• 54:19
  Christ. Um I think that's amazing. But
• 54:22
  if it's just to talk about what the
• 54:23
  devil is doing all day, it's it's a
• 54:25
  little cringe because it's like we're
• 54:27
  just glorifying this defeated being and
• 54:30
  we're not pointing people to the truth.
• 54:31
  And that's kind of what the new age
• 54:33
  really is, right? It's like the people
• 54:35
  who wake up to all that stuff. You'd be
• 54:37
  surprised. There's a lot of newagers who
• 54:39
  know about the occultic stuff and the
• 54:41
  Epstein stuff, but it's like they're
• 54:44
  always talking about all the horrible
• 54:45
  things, but they're never leading
• 54:46
  anybody to truth, never leading anybody
• 54:48
  to hope, which is found in Christ. And
• 54:50
  that's the stuff that Satan loves. Satan
• 54:52
  loves He doesn't mind about you talking
• 54:56
  about what he's doing because he's very
• 54:59
  prideful. He's very narcissistic. He
• 55:00
  enjoys people um feeling fear over what
• 55:04
  he's doing. What he hates is actually
• 55:06
  leading people uh towards what has
• 55:08
  already defeated him, which was Jesus
• 55:10
  Christ on the cross at Calvary 2,000
• 55:12
  years ago. So, um, I believe that at the
• 55:16
  end of the day, as long as there's like
• 55:18
  a call to action, an altar call, a way
• 55:20
  to lead people towards repentance, if
• 55:23
  someone builds their ministry off of
• 55:24
  that, as long as it's reaching souls,
• 55:27
  that's completely fine. But, um, yeah,
• 55:30
  if it becomes kind of an obsession, you
• 55:33
  know, like I'll kind of give you an
• 55:34
  example. um you know what the Lord was
• 55:38
  speaking to me about like a lot of uh
• 55:41
  like ex warlock and ex-witch testimonies
• 55:44
  for example people love those right the
• 55:46
  ethos up but um a lot of their theology
• 55:50
  like is so off and it's really just just
• 55:53
  to glorify the devil and and what the
• 55:55
  Lord was showing me about that he was
• 55:57
  ministering to me that a lot of these
• 55:59
  not a lot but if some of these like ex
• 56:01
  witches and warlock testimonies are
• 56:04
  actually like a strategic strategic
• 56:07
  agenda from the devil to glorify him
• 56:09
  while making people think that these
• 56:11
  people are Christians now by creating
• 56:13
  all of this wacky theology making the
• 56:15
  devil look so powerful you can't touch
• 56:17
  this uh clothing because it was cursed
• 56:20
  by a witch and a demon is going to get
• 56:22
  in it's like dude that stuff is
• 56:24
  ridiculous right um so I think there is
• 56:27
  an extreme to everything and I think if
• 56:30
  someone can find a healthy balance of
• 56:31
  like hey yes the spiritual world is real
• 56:34
  Yes, demons are running this. This was
• 56:36
  created by Satan. Um, but Jesus Christ
• 56:39
  defeated him. I think that's the perfect
• 56:41
  balance. I think everything in life has
• 56:45
  extremes. You have the extreme dead
• 56:48
  church that doesn't believe in praying
• 56:50
  in tongues, doesn't believe in casting
• 56:51
  out demons, and then you have the
• 56:53
  extreme like, oh, everything that I do
• 56:55
  is going to get me a demon. You know, I
• 56:57
  think if you find a healthy balance
• 56:59
  between both,
• 57:00
  >> that's where you'll see God um at the
• 57:03
  center, you know.
• 57:03
  >> Great. Cuz I I think I always think
• 57:05
  about the proverb where it says don't go
• 57:07
  too far right and don't go too far left
• 57:09
  because that's where the evil is. But if
• 57:10
  you stay in the middle and then that's
• 57:12
  almost prophetic to Jesus obviously
• 57:13
  being the narrow road. It's like that
• 57:15
  would be like right in the center line.
• 57:17
  >> Yeah.
• 57:18
  >> Where we're not on this side of the
• 57:19
  pendulum or that side of the pendulum,
• 57:21
  but like we have found
• 57:23
  >> the biblical middle is so good. I think
• 57:25
  what you're sharing is so important. Um
• 57:28
  >> yeah, we're we're in 100% agreement with
• 57:30
  that. And you know, it's it's crazy to
• 57:32
  me how many different strategies the
• 57:34
  enemy has. Like we we've just covered
• 57:37
  like I don't know only like five of them
• 57:39
  just from the the deception of the
• 57:41
  matrix to the deception of the Hegelian
• 57:44
  dialect to dispensational like so many
• 57:47
  things to to even exeagers like coming
• 57:50
  out of that world. And then for me, the
• 57:54
  biggest thing when I first got saved was
• 57:56
  I fell into the cessationist deception
• 57:59
  >> because of other ex- newweagers that got
• 58:01
  saved that then had like a PTSD of the
• 58:03
  supernatural and they were afraid of the
• 58:06
  Holy Spirit.
• 58:07
  >> Yeah.
• 58:07
  >> And I was the same way. So then the
• 58:10
  devil will then start using you to
• 58:12
  evangelize like a false gospel. He just
• 58:14
  like he he's like non-exhaustive of his
• 58:17
  list of ways to minister deception.
• 58:21
  >> Yeah. even to Christians
• 58:23
  >> for sure the Christian community is
• 58:25
  attacked the most. That's why you have
• 58:26
  like over 30,000 denominations and you
• 58:28
  have all this division, you know. Um
• 58:31
  obviously it's very easy to uh conquer
• 58:34
  your enemy when you divide them. You
• 58:36
  know, uh it's it's like it's the same
• 58:38
  thing that um the elite do. It's it's
• 58:40
  order through chaos. It's strategic
• 58:44
  >> manufactured division
• 58:46
  >> because yeah, it's very hard to conquer
• 58:50
  a group when they're united, when
• 58:52
  they're powerful. Unity is very
• 58:54
  powerful. You know, the Bible says that
• 58:55
  there's a commanded blessing in unity.
• 58:57
  And you just see that pattern like in
• 59:00
  anything that the devil wants to
• 59:01
  destroy, it's always creating division,
• 59:05
  always creating these different sections
• 59:07
  and uh you know, clicks and then they're
• 59:10
  all arguing with each other. You know,
• 59:12
  you got all these Christians that are
• 59:13
  like doing debates with each other and
• 59:15
  stuff. It's like, bro, Satan's literally
• 59:17
  laughing at you guys. You know, you have
• 59:19
  like the the Protestant and Orthob bros
• 59:22
  and Catholics all debating and it's like
• 59:25
  um you know that stuff that's all all of
• 59:28
  that division. If you want to debate, we
• 59:30
  need to like we need to start debating
• 59:32
  like Muslims and Hindus and all this
• 59:34
  stuff so we can win them over to Jesus
• 59:36
  Christ. Like let's stop focusing on all
• 59:39
  of these things that we disagree with
• 59:40
  here. um let's start focusing on like
• 59:44
  really tearing down the demonic
• 59:45
  strongholds outside of um what we learn
• 59:49
  about Jesus Christ in the in the realm
• 59:51
  that we're in. You know, I think that um
• 59:54
  I think it's very it's very telling
• 59:58
  >> uh in the Christian community that
• 59:59
  there's so much division because
• 1:00:00
  obviously the devil fears it because it
• 1:00:03
  pushes back what he's trying to do, you
• 1:00:04
  know?
• 1:00:05
  >> Yeah. How do you stay like how do you
• 1:00:08
  stay so grounded in like theologically
• 1:00:10
  sound when you're because you know how
• 1:00:12
  loud the internet is.
• 1:00:13
  >> So what is what [clears throat] is like
• 1:00:16
  the practical day-to-day look like for
• 1:00:17
  you in terms of your relationship with
• 1:00:19
  God?
• 1:00:19
  >> Um yeah that's a really good question. I
• 1:00:22
  don't really watch that many people like
• 1:00:24
  I feel you.
• 1:00:25
  >> You know and I know that might sound
• 1:00:27
  hypocritical cuz you guys are Yeah,
• 1:00:29
  right. because I do that for a living
• 1:00:31
  and you're watching us talk right now.
• 1:00:33
  But um I don't really watch that many
• 1:00:35
  people because everybody's like got
• 1:00:38
  something that is not always sound. Um
• 1:00:42
  and I get it. We're human beings. We're
• 1:00:44
  not perfect, right?
• 1:00:45
  >> Um you know, we're like God has mercy on
• 1:00:49
  us because we're kind of dumb sometimes.
• 1:00:52
  You know what I mean? So we're gonna get
• 1:00:54
  things wrong. Um, man, the best teacher
• 1:00:59
  is is Jesus Christ. It's it's the Bible.
• 1:01:02
  It's the Holy Spirit. So, I get all my
• 1:01:04
  theology straight from the Bible. Um,
• 1:01:08
  and and the Holy Spirit, right? Um, I I
• 1:01:10
  ask God to show me what is right and
• 1:01:12
  what is wrong and I examine it with his
• 1:01:14
  word. Um, and yeah, I think there can be
• 1:01:18
  a danger in watching tons of people who
• 1:01:21
  all have different uh beliefs on stuff
• 1:01:24
  because you'll get really confused and
• 1:01:26
  it's like, "Oh, am I wrong about this?
• 1:01:28
  Am I wrong about that?" Um, I would just
• 1:01:31
  recommend people read the Bible, pray,
• 1:01:34
  you know, pray in the spirit, spend time
• 1:01:36
  with God. You know, God's going to show
• 1:01:38
  you things. It says that uh you know if
• 1:01:41
  we lack wisdom we should pray for it
• 1:01:44
  because God gives wisdom to all people
• 1:01:46
  liberally, generously. So we just have
• 1:01:48
  to really pray for wisdom and ask God to
• 1:01:50
  show us. But I think that the key in
• 1:01:53
  staying theologically sound is having a
• 1:01:56
  humble heart and even with the stuff
• 1:01:58
  that you've learned, not allowing that
• 1:02:00
  to make you be like, "Okay, I've figured
• 1:02:01
  out everything." There's still stuff I'm
• 1:02:03
  learning to this day where I was wrong
• 1:02:05
  about things and I'm willing to accept
• 1:02:07
  that and receive that because that's how
• 1:02:09
  I got saved. I was willing to admit that
• 1:02:10
  I was wrong. If you're willing to admit
• 1:02:12
  that you're wrong, God can use you 100%.
• 1:02:15
  >> 100%. That's like the key for
• 1:02:17
  everything. That's key for coming to
• 1:02:18
  Christ. That's key for continue
• 1:02:20
  continuous revelation in Christ is
• 1:02:22
  literally humility. He will resist you
• 1:02:24
  if you're It says that he will resist
• 1:02:26
  you.
• 1:02:27
  >> You're like,
• 1:02:28
  >> you know, you read comments and stuff
• 1:02:29
  like, "Oh, this isn't this isn't true.
• 1:02:31
  this isn't XYZ. I'm like, well, you're
• 1:02:33
  resisting the possibility that it could
• 1:02:36
  even be true. So, God's actually
• 1:02:37
  resisting you
• 1:02:39
  >> in receiving the revelation that
• 1:02:42
  [clears throat] what's being shared is
• 1:02:44
  his word.
• 1:02:45
  >> Yes.
• 1:02:45
  >> It's just crazy.
• 1:02:46
  >> You can't experience God in pride. You
• 1:02:49
  know, you can't experience God in
• 1:02:51
  thinking that you know it all. Um the
• 1:02:54
  only way that we can experience God is
• 1:02:56
  by doing what he told us to do. Jesus
• 1:02:58
  said that those who exalt themselves
• 1:03:00
  will be humbled and those who humble
• 1:03:02
  themselves will be exalted.
• 1:03:04
  >> A lot of people think humility is like
• 1:03:06
  >> is like oh you know um you know being
• 1:03:09
  kind and all that stuff but there are
• 1:03:10
  kind people who still think that they
• 1:03:12
  know it all. You know what I mean? So
• 1:03:14
  you have to you have to really check
• 1:03:15
  your heart you know like
• 1:03:17
  >> your heart is is like soil and God wants
• 1:03:19
  to plant a seed in there but the soil
• 1:03:21
  has to be ready you know for whatever
• 1:03:23
  God wants to plant to be watered. And
• 1:03:25
  so, um, you know, I would really just
• 1:03:28
  encourage you guys like
• 1:03:31
  always keep your heart and the soil of
• 1:03:33
  your heart pure, ready to receive a seed
• 1:03:35
  that God wants to give you because I
• 1:03:38
  will guarantee you even when you think
• 1:03:40
  you figured it out, you still know
• 1:03:41
  nothing. You know what I mean?
• 1:03:42
  >> So good. That's so true. All right,
• 1:03:44
  let's let me wrap up. There's one or two
• 1:03:46
  more things I wanted to ask I wanted to
• 1:03:48
  ask you like cuz you come from
• 1:03:51
  obviously like a background of Hinduism
• 1:03:54
  >> and atheism so you've and just
• 1:03:56
  secularism so you've explored like
• 1:03:58
  everything that false religion and the
• 1:04:01
  world has to offer. Mhm.
• 1:04:02
  >> So, what is like the biggest few
• 1:04:05
  differences
• 1:04:07
  in you like as a person in how you just
• 1:04:10
  feel daytoday and your countenance and
• 1:04:14
  how you move and just how you carry
• 1:04:16
  yourself and your purpose
• 1:04:20
  >> from all of that stuff coming from all
• 1:04:22
  of that stuff versus now that you've
• 1:04:23
  been walking with Christ for six years.
• 1:04:25
  >> Yeah, that's really good. Um well
• 1:04:28
  [clears throat] you know when I was a
• 1:04:29
  Hindu
• 1:04:32
  like it's kind of similar to being an
• 1:04:35
  atheist because both provide no answers
• 1:04:37
  you know what I mean so um you know I
• 1:04:40
  used to struggle a lot I used to
• 1:04:41
  struggle with depression a lot uh I used
• 1:04:43
  to struggle a lot with um you know yeah
• 1:04:47
  like mental health stuff. I dealt with a
• 1:04:49
  lot of stuff as a child and uh I went
• 1:04:52
  through a lot of uh medical issues where
• 1:04:54
  I was like fighting for my life in the
• 1:04:56
  hospital all the time. I did not have a
• 1:04:58
  normal childhood like I went blind when
• 1:05:00
  I was in my left eye when I was 9 years
• 1:05:02
  old. I was constantly having to get
• 1:05:04
  >> operations. I lost hearing uh in my left
• 1:05:07
  ear at a young age. I was going through
• 1:05:09
  all these surgeries trying to like um
• 1:05:11
  you know
• 1:05:13
  >> you know I I had to get like certain uh
• 1:05:16
  >> what do I what's it's like a osteotomy a
• 1:05:19
  hip and leg osteotomy when I was 14 I
• 1:05:21
  was paralyzed for a year because of a
• 1:05:23
  nerve issue in one of the surgeries
• 1:05:26
  where I couldn't even walk um which you
• 1:05:29
  know it's a blessing that uh I was able
• 1:05:31
  to regain feeling in my leg again and
• 1:05:34
  actually start walking but um that came
• 1:05:37
  with a lot depression, you know, and uh
• 1:05:41
  >> and and I guess that came in in wherever
• 1:05:45
  there's depression, identity is
• 1:05:47
  destroyed and and lost, right? And so um
• 1:05:50
  really all it goes down to is knowing
• 1:05:53
  your identity in Jesus Christ, knowing
• 1:05:55
  that you have purpose, knowing that um
• 1:05:58
  you know there's no mistake in your
• 1:06:00
  life. God has uh uniquely created every
• 1:06:04
  individual for a specific purpose. But
• 1:06:06
  Hinduism doesn't teach you that. Atheism
• 1:06:09
  doesn't teach you that. Um only
• 1:06:11
  Christianity teaches you that every life
• 1:06:13
  is sacred and that everything is
• 1:06:14
  divinely orchestrated by God. And when
• 1:06:16
  you realize that you can trust that and
• 1:06:19
  knowing that God is in control of your
• 1:06:21
  life and like every reason for your
• 1:06:24
  existence is is where identity in Jesus
• 1:06:26
  Christ really starts to form. Um
• 1:06:30
  it the easiest way to keep people in a
• 1:06:32
  state of bondage is just to literally
• 1:06:34
  attack their identity. And no other
• 1:06:37
  belief system
• 1:06:39
  uh solves that issue except for Jesus
• 1:06:41
  Christ. And so um you know Hinduism this
• 1:06:46
  is the thing with other religions too,
• 1:06:48
  right? Like they teach all of these good
• 1:06:49
  morals but they never address the issue
• 1:06:52
  of sin and self. And I think that
• 1:06:56
  >> nature.
• 1:06:56
  >> Yeah. Exactly. when we don't address the
• 1:06:59
  the nature of sin, when we don't address
• 1:07:02
  the idea that there is an inherent part
• 1:07:04
  of yourself that is fallen that needs to
• 1:07:06
  be crucified. Um, and instead of
• 1:07:09
  self-help, you need self-denial, you
• 1:07:11
  know. Um, because you see all I was just
• 1:07:14
  talking about this the other day on a
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  podcast. You see all these people who
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  are successful and they're so miserable
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  because they're just giving into their
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  self. They're feeding theirel. And so
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  what separates Christianity from
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  everything else is addressing the idea
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  that hey there is a part of yourself
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  that needs to die needs to be crucified
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  and you know once you come into an
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  agreement with that there is a God who
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  created you for a specific purpose who
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  where your whole identity needs to be
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  centered around him because he's
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  perfect. We're not perfect, but if we
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  put our trust in him and our identity in
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  him, we can experience those attributes,
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  those heavenly attributes that he has to
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  provide of perfection, so to speak. Um,
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  so
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  >> I would say the main difference between
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  these other religions and Christianity
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  is like we have access to God and
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  through that everything flows whether
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  it's through healing, whether it's
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  through knowing your identity, whether
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  it's through healing from trauma,
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  whatever it may be. And um it's so much
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  more than it's so much more than just
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  like dogma, you know what I mean? It it
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  it is quite literally the answer to why
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  we're here. Hinduism never provided me
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  that. Um it was just dead rituals, dead
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  religion. And people grow up in that in
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  the church too where they don't really
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  understand why they believe in what they
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  believe in. Um I remember even
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  afterwards you know like I studied
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  Hinduism again to see like oh was it
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  because I was just raised in religion
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  and I um you know had no encounter
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  similar to how like the Christians grow
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  up who grow up in dead religion but no I
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  realize that Hinduism is still very
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  false and there's many reasons why it's
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  false you know um even look at like the
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  nature of the Hindu gods like uh Brahma
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  literally raped his own daughter uh so
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  it's like why are we worshiping these
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  things as like these holy figures? Um
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  you know you had goddesses like Kie who
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  were demanding human sacrifices and
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  stuff and it's like obviously that's not
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  God right? So
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  um to make a long story short that's
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  kind of why I believe that Christianity
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  is so fundamental in changing my life
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  versus atheism and Hinduism and even the
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  atheism stuff. I mean that provides no
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  answers to life either. It teaches you
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  that you're a primate, that you're a
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  monkey. Um that you're just a tiny speck
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  in the universe.
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  >> Very fulfilling.
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  >> Yeah. Right. Like how amazing is that?
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  I'm nothing basically, you know? Uh and
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  it teaches you to really like give into
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  carnality. Like it teaches you to almost
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  >> become anim animalistic
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  >> um in your desires when God didn't make
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  us like other animals, you know. And
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  that's what evolution is. evol the
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  theory of evolution I guess you could
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  say because I believe in uh micro
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  evolution but not macroeolution
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  obviously but what like atheism teaches
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  you is that you're nothing more than an
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  animal
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  when that's an entire satanic agenda to
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  pervert the fact that we're made in
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  God's image and that we're separate from
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  animals
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  >> that's good
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  >> like we're not animals you know but when
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  you give it to the flesh it can be very
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  easy to behave like one yes and that's
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  how the devil sees us devil sees us as
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  animals
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  because he hates the fact that we're
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  made in the image of God. So way to
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  almost um like denigrate God in a way is
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  to denigrate us into making us into a
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  species of animals rather than being
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  made in his direct image. You know,
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  >> so true. The last thing I want to ask
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  you is because Okay, cuz I don't know
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  how we're going to package this yet, but
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  I know that there are people that are
• 1:10:51
  going to click this because they're
• 1:10:52
  like, "Oh, wow. He has a he's seen some
• 1:10:54
  stuff in Hollywood." you know, like cuz
• 1:10:56
  that what we were just talking about
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  like 10 minutes ago, people just want to
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  hear about that kind of thing.
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  >> So, for people that are clicking this or
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  people that are familiar with you that
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  that know that you've
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  >> you've gone down the rabbit holes,
• 1:11:06
  you've you've seen the the darkness
• 1:11:09
  firsthand and they're kind of like they
• 1:11:12
  don't know Christ yet, but they're all
• 1:11:13
  like up in that world. Maybe they are
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  spiritual like I was. What would you say
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  to that particular demographic of people
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  before we close out?
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  >> Yeah, that's really good. I would say
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  look, if you are on a quest for truth,
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  you will find it in Jesus Christ. And
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  and the biggest thing that could hinder
• 1:11:32
  you from true awakening is the ego and
• 1:11:35
  itself. And you have to be at a point
• 1:11:38
  where you desire knowing the truth more
• 1:11:42
  so than desire protecting um your own
• 1:11:45
  pride and your own ego and your own way
• 1:11:47
  of life because that's where true
• 1:11:50
  knowledge is found. true knowledge is
• 1:11:52
  found in the fact of maybe I'm wrong
• 1:11:54
  about this. And and if you give Jesus a
• 1:11:57
  try, if if if you study what his word
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  says and think to yourself, maybe the
• 1:12:03
  new age stuff, the new age spirituality
• 1:12:05
  that the Bible speaks against, maybe it
• 1:12:08
  is not of God. I guarantee you like God
• 1:12:11
  is going to reveal himself to you. But
• 1:12:13
  the main thing is it all starts with
• 1:12:15
  pride. If you say that you don't have
• 1:12:17
  pride, if you say that you don't have
• 1:12:19
  ego, the way that you can prove that is
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  by coming to Jesus Christ because that
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  is true ego death right there.
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  >> So
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  >> let Jesus into your life. Give him a try
• 1:12:31
  because I guarantee you like you get one
• 1:12:33
  one touch from God and your whole life
• 1:12:35
  will completely change. But you can only
• 1:12:37
  experience God in the realm of truth.
• 1:12:39
  Like you can't experience God and do
• 1:12:42
  tarot cards at the same time. Jesus says
• 1:12:44
  that no one can serve two masters. He
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  will either love one and hate the other.
• 1:12:48
  And the reality is
• 1:12:50
  there are things in the middle. There
• 1:12:52
  are certain gray areas, but when it
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  comes to the realm of spirituality, it
• 1:12:56
  is very black and white. There is a
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  literal God and there is a literal devil
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  and there is no in between. Um, you
• 1:13:02
  can't mix the things of God and the
• 1:13:04
  things of Satan. And even with new age,
• 1:13:07
  it comes from Hinduism. It comes from a
• 1:13:09
  false religion. you know, new age is
• 1:13:11
  basically just Hinduism for like
• 1:13:13
  Americans and white people, you know
• 1:13:14
  what I mean? So, it's like I come I come
• 1:13:17
  from that like belief system and I'm
• 1:13:20
  telling you like it is demonic. It is
• 1:13:22
  satanic. And that might even trigger
• 1:13:24
  some people saying, "Wait, um you're
• 1:13:26
  telling me what I believe is satanic."
• 1:13:28
  But the reason why that triggers people
• 1:13:30
  is it all goes back down to the pride
• 1:13:32
  thing, the ego thing. You have to be
• 1:13:33
  willing to admit that you're wrong. If
• 1:13:35
  you do that, I promise you that God is
• 1:13:37
  going to meet you where you're at and
• 1:13:38
  you will experience Jesus Christ. And
• 1:13:41
  you know, I would like to pray for
• 1:13:42
  people maybe who are uh watching this
• 1:13:44
  podcast who maybe are in that position
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  going through that awakening. If I'm
• 1:13:47
  able to, that'd be great.
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  >> Um
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  >> so we just thank you, Father God, for
• 1:13:52
  everybody who's watching this podcast.
• 1:13:54
  We thank you for those who are believers
• 1:13:56
  and those who are curious about Jesus
• 1:13:58
  Christ, who want to learn more about
• 1:14:00
  him, who have maybe gone through the
• 1:14:01
  same awakening that me and Angela have
• 1:14:03
  gone through. I just pray Lord in Jesus
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  name that you would soften their heart
• 1:14:06
  God. I pray that you would bring them to
• 1:14:09
  a state where um they would be willing
• 1:14:11
  to accept that maybe they are wrong
• 1:14:13
  about certain things and I pray Lord
• 1:14:15
  your your word says that the Holy Spirit
• 1:14:17
  will guide us into all truth. So I just
• 1:14:19
  speak over every individual who's
• 1:14:21
  watching this right now who wants to
• 1:14:23
  know the truth that Holy Spirit you
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  would guide them to the truth which is
• 1:14:27
  found in your son according to John
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  14:6. So we thank you God right now for
• 1:14:32
  everybody on the screen. We just pray
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  God that even your presence right now
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  would encounter them and that any wrong
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  mindsets that they learn from the word.
• 1:14:41
  We pray Lord that you would break those
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  down and that you would teach them your
• 1:14:44
  truth and you would teach them according
• 1:14:46
  to your word. So we just thank you for
• 1:14:48
  everybody watching and we pray that the
• 1:14:50
  work of God would begin right now in
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  Jesus Christ's mighty name. Amen.
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  >> Amen. So good. Where can people find
• 1:14:56
  you? Um, you guys can find me on
• 1:15:00
  YouTube, uh, Tik Tok, Instagram. I'm
• 1:15:03
  sure you'll probably put everything in
• 1:15:04
  the description as well. Um, you know,
• 1:15:07
  you can find I make music, too. I make
• 1:15:09
  Christian music. You can just search up
• 1:15:10
  my name on all platforms. But yeah, my
• 1:15:12
  main thing really is uh is YouTube. So,
• 1:15:15
  >> you can find everything in the
• 1:15:16
  description. You just search up Nick
• 1:15:17
  Kaswani Nikki
• 1:15:20
  on everything, you'll be able to find
• 1:15:22
  it. And, um, you know, hopefully it
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  edifies you guys.
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  So yeah.
• 1:15:27
  >> Amen. And there's also going to be a
• 1:15:29
  video of myself on there as well. So go
• 1:15:31
  check that out.
• 1:15:31
  >> Go check that out. It's going to be
• 1:15:33
  great.
• 1:15:33
  >> All right. Let me know in the comments
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