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- 0:03Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:06Speaker 1: It's Monday, July thirteen, twenty twenty six. Former Australian Federal
- 0:13Speaker 1: Police Commissioner Mick Keelty is demanding the AFP reveal the
- 0:17Speaker 1: state of its counter terrorism budget in the year leading
- 0:20Speaker 1: up to December's mass casualty terrorism event in Bondi. The
- 0:25Speaker 1: Australians already revealed serious concerns within the force that staffing
- 0:29Speaker 1: levels were critically low, but the cops won't say exactly
- 0:33Speaker 1: how much their funding had been cut. That's an exclusive
- 0:37Speaker 1: live now at the Australian dot com dot a u
- 0:44Speaker 1: A dad rushing to the defense of his daughter. We
- 0:47Speaker 1: can all identify with that, but in the case of
- 0:49Speaker 1: one Channel seven reporter, Dad's decided to critique the performance
- 0:54Speaker 1: and appearance of his girl's colleagues. Steve Jackson edits The
- 0:58Speaker 1: Australian's Media Diary and he's here with the story that's
- 1:01Speaker 1: got all of broadcast media talking. Jacko's here in just
- 1:05Speaker 1: a moment. Steve Jackson edits The Australian's Monday media Diary. Jacko,
- 1:36Speaker 1: you and I have talked before on the front about
- 1:38Speaker 1: TV news. I love television news. I'm a big consumer.
- 1:42Speaker 1: But what I really love about it is the personalities
- 1:44Speaker 1: that make up these shows. It is a tough game,
- 1:46Speaker 1: isn't it.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Ah, Look the people who do it. I don't think
- 1:49Speaker 2: anyone appreciates how hard that job is. As we've discussed,
- 1:53Speaker 2: you work on a newspaper, you think you can get
- 1:55Speaker 2: everything concise down into just a few words, and then
- 1:58Speaker 2: you go into TV and you, oh Jesus, turns out
- 2:01Speaker 2: that I wasn't as concise as I thought. They're explaining
- 2:04Speaker 2: emotions in half a sentence. You know, it's an amazing
- 2:07Speaker 2: skill set they have.
- 2:08Speaker 1: There's big drama going on behind the scenes at Channel seven.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Why it's usually the stories that are happening in front
- 2:14Speaker 2: of the camera everyone's talking about, but in It's seven,
- 2:16Speaker 2: it's the behind the scenes drama. It's like, forget about
- 2:19Speaker 2: commissioning a new Real Housewives of Sydney. This is the drama.
- 2:24Speaker 2: It's a real life reality show and it's all because
- 2:26Speaker 2: of one reporter and now her dad. Everyone who read
- 2:29Speaker 2: the Diary last week has seen InGaN Nelson, who we
- 2:32Speaker 2: got vision of earlier this year, swearing at a cameraman
- 2:35Speaker 2: a few choice words, a little bit of argie bargie
- 2:38Speaker 2: on the road. Unfortunately for her, was sent back live
- 3:00Speaker 2: the newsroom. Everyone's watching and trading. It found its way
- 3:03Speaker 2: to diary. But now her dad's weighed in on the action,
- 3:06Speaker 2: and he's giving a little bit of choice feedback of
- 3:08Speaker 2: his own and letting her former colleagues because she's now
- 3:13Speaker 2: left the network, know what he really thinks of them.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been getting busy in the comments section of
- 3:17Speaker 1: the Daily Mail, which is a great place to be.
- 3:19Speaker 1: It's very entertaining. Most people use a pseudonym. I'm sure
- 3:22Speaker 1: that's what you do. Jacko Jacko one two four, I
- 3:24Speaker 1: think it is. But mister Nielsen has been loud and
- 3:28Speaker 1: proud under his own name, commenting on stories about his
- 3:32Speaker 1: daughter's former workplace at Channel seven and her colleagues.
- 3:35Speaker 2: And not just on the Daily Mail, although that comment
- 3:37Speaker 2: section is great, he's actually been doing it on the
- 3:40Speaker 2: official Channel seven Facebook and Instagram accounts. His comments are
- 3:45Speaker 2: truly bizarre. So on one hand, he's saying Channel seven
- 3:48Speaker 2: terrible the way it treats young female reporters. On the
- 3:52Speaker 2: other hand, he's saying, this young female reporter is so
- 3:55Speaker 2: unattractive she could turn milk sour, and this one's got
- 3:59Speaker 2: too much botoc then this one, I think she's just
- 4:02Speaker 2: the work experienced girl.
- 4:04Speaker 1: So I told.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Everyone about that last week and it's evolved from there.
- 4:08Speaker 2: During the week he went and spoke to the Daily Mail.
- 4:10Speaker 2: He wouldn't take my calls, but he spoke to the
- 4:13Speaker 2: Daily Mail and said, oh, yeah, I'm just sharing my opinion.
- 4:16Speaker 2: What's wrong with that? When your opinion is, hey, I
- 4:19Speaker 2: think you're ugly? Is just is that something as a
- 4:22Speaker 2: society we all live in a society. Is that something
- 4:25Speaker 2: that we're just cool with? Then generally, if you wouldn't
- 4:27Speaker 2: say it in person, should you be jumping on the
- 4:30Speaker 2: comment section on their pages so you know they're seeing it, going, Yeah,
- 4:34Speaker 2: I think you're ugly and you use too much botox.
- 4:37Speaker 2: You know, I think you could turn milk sour. I mean,
- 4:40Speaker 2: what is he thinking?
- 4:42Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's using his own name, which in a
- 4:44Speaker 1: way is kind of sweetly naive and almost refreshing, given
- 4:47Speaker 1: that generally when people get into this kind of trolling behavior,
- 4:50Speaker 1: they are using an anonymous handle. But he does have
- 4:53Speaker 1: a job off his own. He's a pillar of society
- 4:56Speaker 1: in his own way. What about his own job.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Well, he is a school principle, and I pointed out
- 5:02Speaker 2: that in his own school newsletters it's got an ethos
- 5:05Speaker 2: of anti bullying. So he's got this job as a
- 5:07Speaker 2: school principal. But for how long, Claire is the question?
- 5:11Speaker 1: You put in some questions to the Department of Education
- 5:13Speaker 1: in his state. What did they say?
- 5:15Speaker 2: Well, I heard from some sources out at the school
- 5:18Speaker 2: where he's teaching, out in central West New South Wales
- 5:21Speaker 2: that he'd been on leave since last October because there
- 5:24Speaker 2: had been complaints about the culture at the school. We
- 5:27Speaker 2: don't know if that's true, and he does deny all this.
- 5:30Speaker 2: The department has come back and said he is not
- 5:33Speaker 2: teaching at any school in New South Wales. He is
- 5:37Speaker 2: still being paid by the department, but he's not teaching
- 5:40Speaker 2: at any school in New South Wales.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Coming up the demise of one of television's great skills.
- 6:13Speaker 1: You're a dad of a daughter, Jacko, and I think
- 6:14Speaker 1: we can all identify it with being your child's rite
- 6:17Speaker 1: or die, you know, supporting them one hundred percent. Either way,
- 6:20Speaker 1: it does give us an insight, I think, into the
- 6:22Speaker 1: human toll of what's happening to the TV news business acts.
- 6:27Speaker 3: Channel seven stars have spoken out amid the network's mass
- 6:30Speaker 3: job cuts. Seven's parent companies, Southern Cross Media, revealed that
- 6:33Speaker 3: it would be cutting two hundred and fifty to three
- 6:36Speaker 3: hundred people from the business before the end of the
- 6:38Speaker 3: month in a bid to save thirty million dollars.
- 6:41Speaker 1: In a letter to staff, explaining, the television newsrooms are
- 6:44Speaker 1: under immense pressure. We've talked before about the potential for
- 6:47Speaker 1: Channel ten's newsrooms to disappear altogether. Times are tough at
- 6:51Speaker 1: Channel seven, But is it stabilizing a little? Do you
- 6:53Speaker 1: think is the latest round of cuts going to mean
- 6:56Speaker 1: that Steven does have a sustainable TV news business?
- 6:59Speaker 2: Well, you'd like to think so, because when we look
- 7:01Speaker 2: at the local industry, you kind of go, all right,
- 7:04Speaker 2: there's the international streamers and Netflix and Amazon Prime and
- 7:08Speaker 2: Apple TV. They're coming in. Let's face it, They've got
- 7:11Speaker 2: the best drama, they've got the biggest budgets. What can't
- 7:13Speaker 2: they do, what can't they offer, and what they can't
- 7:16Speaker 2: offer and they're never going to offer is domestic news
- 7:19Speaker 2: and current affairs. So that's really important. It's also much cheaper,
- 7:22Speaker 2: Like you look at doing an hour of the Voice
- 7:25Speaker 2: that's going to cost a million dollars. You've got licensing fees,
- 7:28Speaker 2: there's a million cameras, there's producers. One of the few
- 7:31Speaker 2: shows that still has a whole suite of soundos working,
- 7:35Speaker 2: so that's a really big production. An hour of television
- 7:38Speaker 2: news and current affairs, that's a quarter of the price.
- 7:40Speaker 2: You know, everything's a single camera. Generally, even sixty minutes
- 7:44Speaker 2: isn't paying big talent fees now, so generally that's really
- 7:48Speaker 2: cheap content. It's also really popular. One thing that we
- 7:52Speaker 2: all love is news and current affairs, so we want
- 7:54Speaker 2: to know what's going on around us. So you'd hope
- 7:56Speaker 2: that it stabilizes and instead of cutting people, they go,
- 8:00Speaker 2: if we've got to make the budgets work, let's extend
- 8:02Speaker 2: news and current affairs. Let's do more of it. The
- 8:05Speaker 2: issue we have is the people, particularly you look at
- 8:08Speaker 2: mister Neilson's case here, he's having to go at reporters
- 8:11Speaker 2: who are working on these news bulletins. They've never worked harder.
- 8:14Speaker 2: You know, you look back two decades ago and the
- 8:17Speaker 2: hardest thing was getting your story into the six pm news,
- 8:19Speaker 2: because you know, you're competing for half an hour of airtime.
- 8:23Speaker 2: It's now an hour. But these reporters, particularly for TV,
- 8:27Speaker 2: and you forget when you go out to a crime
- 8:28Speaker 2: sent in print, you're out there for five hours and
- 8:31Speaker 2: you do the police press and you go back and
- 8:33Speaker 2: write it up. The TV reporters they're out there at
- 8:35Speaker 2: six am doing the cross into the breakfast show. Three times,
- 8:40Speaker 2: they're doing a cross into the morning show. They're then
- 8:42Speaker 2: doing the police press conference, they're crossing into the midday news.
- 8:46Speaker 2: They're still out there at six thirty pm crossing into
- 8:49Speaker 2: the main bulletin. So as soon as they're on a
- 8:51Speaker 2: big story of the day where there's multiple live crosses,
- 8:54Speaker 2: they're doing fourteen fifteen sixteen hour days incredibly hard for them,
- 8:59Speaker 2: and that's why it is disappointing when you see people
- 9:02Speaker 2: focusing on you know, oh, you know, I think she's
- 9:04Speaker 2: got too much botox.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Those live crosses are a feature of TVV news, which
- 9:12Speaker 1: is relatively new. Once upon a time you would do
- 9:14Speaker 1: your package from a story and then you would be
- 9:17Speaker 1: able to go home. I think it's really made it
- 9:20Speaker 1: difficult for particularly women or anyone who's got caring responsibilities
- 9:23Speaker 1: at home to work in TV news. I mean, especially
- 9:26Speaker 1: if you work at the ABC and the live cross
- 9:28Speaker 1: might be at seven thirty pm. That's an incredibly long day.
- 9:32Speaker 1: It's really difficult. You mentioned sound operators, Jacko soundos. Being
- 9:36Speaker 1: a sound recordist was an amazing pathway to a job
- 9:40Speaker 1: in television news and current affairs. It had two functions.
- 9:43Speaker 1: One was delivering great sound and these are the guys
- 9:45Speaker 1: holding the mic on the long boom. It was an
- 9:48Speaker 1: apprentice pathway for cameramen and it was also a highly
- 9:52Speaker 1: regarded career in its own right to be an expert
- 9:54Speaker 1: sound operator. They've kind of disappeared from newsrooms now. You
- 9:58Speaker 1: say they're only working on reality.
- 10:00Speaker 2: And sixty minutes.
- 10:01Speaker 1: It's sad, isn't it.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Yeah, it is really sad. And from the number of levels,
- 10:05Speaker 2: like when you're going out as a team, you've got
- 10:07Speaker 2: a sounder who's focusing on making sure everything's recorded properly,
- 10:11Speaker 2: the channels are there. It's such a trusted part, even
- 10:14Speaker 2: down to like relaxing the talent. When you go into
- 10:17Speaker 2: a room, quite often as a producer, you've been talking
- 10:20Speaker 2: to people for months about their story. By the time
- 10:23Speaker 2: you turn up with the crew and you've got them
- 10:25Speaker 2: across the line, you're focusing on, you know, getting the
- 10:28Speaker 2: room right and the camera angles. And then for a
- 10:31Speaker 2: sounder who can come in and just relax them and go,
- 10:33Speaker 2: you know, I'm putting on the mic and oh really
- 10:36Speaker 2: that's amazing. Oh, don't tell me too much. And they
- 10:39Speaker 2: have this the best sounder. Sixty has always had amazing sounders.
- 10:42Speaker 2: They're all phenomenal. They're a guy called Mickey Breen. He's
- 10:45Speaker 2: telling jokes, says Charles Davy. Has a great ability just
- 10:49Speaker 2: to make people feel relaxed. And it's such a skill
- 10:52Speaker 2: set for jobs like that to be disappearing. It's sad
- 10:56Speaker 2: because these guys are amazing at what they do. But
- 10:59Speaker 2: also the way technology has evolved is that cameramen can
- 11:03Speaker 2: now do that, and a lot of cameramen they will
- 11:06Speaker 2: now do five cameras and sound. But now even worse
- 11:10Speaker 2: is reporters are being asked, oh can you start filming stuff?
- 11:14Speaker 2: So the soundos are engagered from the cameramen, the cameramen
- 11:18Speaker 2: are endangered from the reporters. And there's this weird thing
- 11:22Speaker 2: that somehow editors are going to be loud out of
- 11:24Speaker 2: their little windowless room of avids to go film and
- 11:28Speaker 2: report stuff themselves.
- 11:29Speaker 1: And journals and now TV journals are now expected to edit.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Yeah, in between everything else they're going to edit. I
- 11:35Speaker 2: don't know where all the hours are going to come
- 11:36Speaker 2: in the day, but that job has never been harder,
- 11:40Speaker 2: and probably there's never been a time in history where
- 11:43Speaker 2: they have had more feedback. There used to be an era,
- 11:46Speaker 2: and I'm sure you remember this where turning up being
- 11:49Speaker 2: from one of the major television networks came with a
- 11:52Speaker 2: little bit of gravitas. So I know that one TV
- 11:55Speaker 2: journal was telling me recently. I was saying, I was
- 11:58Speaker 2: going somewhere, but there's no parking. Just put a little
- 12:01Speaker 2: sign letting them park in the no parking and have
- 12:03Speaker 2: a little sign saying you're a journal. So that's probably
- 12:06Speaker 2: going to get me a ticket faster than anything else.
- 12:09Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's going, oh, it's like putting a
- 12:11Speaker 2: little sign saying you're a priest. No. No, we're sort
- 12:14Speaker 2: of a magnet for vitriol. So it is a shame
- 12:17Speaker 2: when everyone's working so hard to see people, as I say,
- 12:22Speaker 2: give feedback. I don't agree with the way you told
- 12:24Speaker 2: that story. We do that all the time. That os
- 12:27Speaker 2: was that story told properly. That's great discourse and we
- 12:30Speaker 2: should be having those conversations about news value. We shouldn't
- 12:33Speaker 2: be going, Hey, I think you're ugly. Hey, I think
- 12:36Speaker 2: you've got to sour face, because that is juvenile. It's
- 12:39Speaker 2: so disrespectful. It's disrespectful to men as well. Like seriously,
- 12:43Speaker 2: I just think as a society, I get him wanting
- 12:46Speaker 2: to defend his daughter. That is not an appropriate way
- 12:49Speaker 2: to do it.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Good on you, Jacko, standing up for decency in public discourse.
- 12:53Speaker 2: Well, but don't you say anything bad about my daughter,
- 12:55Speaker 2: otherwise I'll be out there to get you. Thanks Jacko,
- 12:58Speaker 2: all right, thank you m hm.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Steve Jackson edits The Australian's Media Diary. You can check
- 13:11Speaker 1: it out anytime at the Australian dot com dot a
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