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Sips & Sleepovers: RHOC Recap with Alexis Bellino · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, rain drops on today's episode Reality
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  Speaker 1: with the King. Listen. I love every time I tape
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  Speaker 1: an episode on my podcast, but I have to say
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  Speaker 1: I want to call Friday's My fun Day or fri
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  Speaker 1: yay because I get to be with Alexis Belino as
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  Speaker 1: we recap another episode of the Real Housewives of orcomp No,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's actual t G. I A b.
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  Speaker 1: Thank god it's Alexis.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, that was fast. Okay. I have a confession.
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  Speaker 2: I have to own something right now. I just had
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  Speaker 2: hyaluronic acid put in my micro needle in my face.
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  Speaker 2: As we know, there's a wedding coming up, so I
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  Speaker 2: do look different today. I have bruises I couldn't cover up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm puffy or so just everybody please be kind. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's it's what we must do, you know, self care.
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  Speaker 1: You look amazing to be No.
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  Speaker 2: I've tried to cover it. I did not have glam
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  Speaker 2: squad today. This was a Lexus squad. And I tried
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  Speaker 2: to just you know, I tried to deep puff. I
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  Speaker 2: tried to heal the bruises fast enough enough Arctica. It
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  Speaker 2: didn't work.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay, no, listen, I love but you said I
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  Speaker 1: have no glam is a Lexis glamb Alexis glamb is Bob.
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  Speaker 1: You look amazed, so listen. If you just say anything,
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  Speaker 1: I would not have known anything was going on with
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  Speaker 1: your face. But look, I see it. So I need
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  Speaker 1: to do something like that because I use you know, topicals.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, are those the eye patches?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did that.
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  Speaker 2: I did that at six o'clock getting ready to say
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting ready for this. Okay, I love it eye
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  Speaker 2: patch and at six am to see Carlos king at
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  Speaker 2: eight am, it's our eight am day. We were like,
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  Speaker 2: it's like and today I brought my diet coke Carlos
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  Speaker 2: and we might have a little we have a little
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  Speaker 2: more fun today. Carlos.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I call a filler episode, because you
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  Speaker 1: know they were on the trip. Nothing really fantastical happened,
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  Speaker 1: but there was some amazing points being made.
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  Speaker 2: Well, honey, you have to remember, they can't all be
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  Speaker 2: up here like like I talk, not because then you
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  Speaker 2: don't get any You gotta have a load to get
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  Speaker 2: a high. So this was a little bit less, but
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  Speaker 2: the two be continued. I happen to believe is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be next week when you and I talk, We're gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Be like whoa yes, yes, no, no. I could not
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  Speaker 1: agree more. Listen as I feel the same way. Not
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  Speaker 1: every episode should be a slam duck, although so far
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  Speaker 1: this season has been. But let's get right into it.
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  Speaker 1: So Tamra just decided to plan a trip. She invited
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  Speaker 1: all the girls. She first started to inform. The girl
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  Speaker 1: she invited, Shannon Shannon. Look, I watch every episode, I
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  Speaker 1: see everything, and I see all the nuances. I was
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  Speaker 1: shocked that Shannon all of a sudden decided that she
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't want to go on a trip. She doesn't
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  Speaker 1: trust Tamarra is too soon for her to be around her.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, I'm confused because last year
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  Speaker 1: when Tamra said all those things to her, and I
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  Speaker 1: even told Tamar personally, look, you're being a little too
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  Speaker 1: harsh on her. You know that's my opinion, Hey, Tamara,
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  Speaker 1: and she listen Tamra. Obviously, I will say this rain drops.
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  Speaker 1: Tamra knows more about the Shannon dynamic than we all
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  Speaker 1: do because they were best friends who spoke on the
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  Speaker 1: phone five times plus more a day for almost a decade,
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  Speaker 1: if not longer than that. So she knows more than
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  Speaker 1: we do. I'm not excusing her behavior, but what I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying is she knows more than what we do. What
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  Speaker 1: I was confused about, though, was Shannon's apprehension to not
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  Speaker 1: wanted to go on the trip because there was nothing
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  Speaker 1: this season that indicated that there was reservation there. And
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  Speaker 1: I felt like, Shannon, this is my opinion, and you
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  Speaker 1: guys can disagree with me. I think Shannon just wants
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  Speaker 1: Tamra off the show and she feels like if I
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  Speaker 1: don't film with her, and if I can ice her out,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the other girls would join in on me. And
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  Speaker 1: that's that. That's what I got from it because it
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  Speaker 1: made no sense to me. But alexis, what do you
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  Speaker 1: think about that entigre situation.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the deal. Shannon now thinks she can ice people
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  Speaker 2: out and they won't be hired back, because that's what
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  Speaker 2: happened to me last season. So okay, to Shay, she
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  Speaker 2: might think she can do it, but guess what. Guess what, Honey,
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  Speaker 2: holding grudges equals getting fired. So watch your back, Shannon,
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  Speaker 2: because if you're gonna be like that and keep holding grudges,
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  Speaker 2: you might be the next one out the door, Shannon.
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  Speaker 2: The door, and there's the door that way. Okay, just
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  Speaker 2: like I said last year, and I did not practice it,
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't even know you were gonna go here
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  Speaker 2: right now, So there you go. Okay, that's the first
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  Speaker 2: set of tea we're gonna get today. The second thing
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  Speaker 2: is the one thing Tamara has told me. Okay, oh gosh,
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  Speaker 2: I hope that tambraag does not if I lose my friendship.
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  Speaker 2: She's one of my closest friends if I lose her
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  Speaker 2: now after this. But I have to say this because
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  Speaker 2: it's just what you just said. Just it's like right here,
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  Speaker 2: so Tamar told me back before, and my jobs are
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  Speaker 2: wrestling right now. So I'm sorry. You're getting reality with
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  Speaker 2: Alexis Blino right now, boye. Okay, they don't understand that
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  Speaker 2: mom's working right now. Okay. So anyway, Tamar told me
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  Speaker 2: which really resonated with me and made me feel so
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  Speaker 2: horrible last season or season eighteen, I should say, when
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  Speaker 2: I was filming with Tamara, She's like, you know what
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  Speaker 2: hurts me the most? Alexis and Tamra and I've cried
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  Speaker 2: a lot together because last season was very eighteen was
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  Speaker 2: hard for both Tamara and I. We both got the ringer,
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  Speaker 2: we both got a lot of our story not shown.
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  Speaker 2: We both you know it. Just it's stunk, Okay. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: so we had a lot of tears. So she said
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  Speaker 2: what stunk the most about my relationship with Shannon is
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  Speaker 2: I was there for her for ten years. Do you
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  Speaker 2: know that Shannon never once called me, like when Tamra
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  Speaker 2: said in seeing this episode, when she goes, you are
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  Speaker 2: a lot to handle or you are whatever that one
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  Speaker 2: line was when they were at the restaurant, I forget
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  Speaker 2: it now. Anyways, I was like, wow, that is exactly
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  Speaker 2: Shannon's a lot because guess what, Shannon never asked Tamara
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  Speaker 2: one time about what was going on in Tamra's world.
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  Speaker 2: How are you, Tamra? What can I do for you? Tamra?
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  Speaker 2: What do you need? Tamara? It was always Shannon calling
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  Speaker 2: and giving Tamora all of this headache, and Tamra tried
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  Speaker 2: her best to be a good friend for ten years.
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  Speaker 2: Then it got too much. So it's like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: like it when once again Shannon's playing the victim role
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  Speaker 2: and Okay, it works. I mean, it seems to work
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  Speaker 2: for her.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm over it. I'm over it. And the reason
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  Speaker 1: why I'm over it is because, look, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: Shannon personally. I for the for the longest time, I
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  Speaker 1: love Shannon being on the show because she was going
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  Speaker 1: through something so relatable, you know, when she was going
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  Speaker 1: through her divorce with David and experiencing being you know,
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  Speaker 1: cheating on and then having to like be a single
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  Speaker 1: mom and raising the daughters, like all of that was relatable.
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  Speaker 1: And I always thought she had these quirky moments, right,
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  Speaker 1: I think Shannon has become predictable and say, I don't
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  Speaker 1: believe in yelling at anybody in production when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to the people working on the show. I'm not here
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  Speaker 1: the name names, but you know, I know things too.
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  Speaker 1: I listen. You can have a moment, but to berase
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  Speaker 1: somebody is to me, I'm called for And I think
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  Speaker 1: she's becoming a one trick pony.
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  Speaker 2: I told Carlos, I call it a stick. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like she's got a shtick. I don't even know if
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  Speaker 2: that's a word, like schleppin. Shtick is what Alexis is
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  Speaker 2: gonna say, because I feel like it's It's like, I, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I have to lock my dogs out right now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry this.
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  Speaker 2: Is live, but I can't concentrate when my dogs are
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  Speaker 2: sitting here rest like the I go back one out back.
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  Speaker 2: I have a little playmate outside, Okay, go have some fun. Okay, good,
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  Speaker 2: that's gracious. You think i'd have teenagers in the house
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  Speaker 2: right now?
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  Speaker 1: This is real, but I'll go ahead. You feel like
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  Speaker 1: Shannon has a shtick?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's like, okay, we get that you are
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  Speaker 2: always dishoveled, we get that you always are tripping and falling.
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  Speaker 2: We get it. But but you know, it's like she
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have a storyline. So I think that's her storyline.
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  Speaker 2: I think she keeps doing these things thinking she's making
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  Speaker 2: America laugh, and they did for ten years. But it's like,
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  Speaker 2: where's she doesn't have? She has Archie and her daughters.
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  Speaker 2: That's all she has going on right now. So it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of like, Okay, we got to get her a hobby,
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  Speaker 2: We've got to get her happy again. She's still bitter
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  Speaker 2: and angry and like looks mad, and I just want
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  Speaker 2: her to like give Tamara a chance? Like why why
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  Speaker 2: is it okay for Shannon to get ten or twelve chances?
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  Speaker 2: Jennifer gave Shannon after the you know, my kids are
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  Speaker 2: going to be the CPA whatever that whole thing was.
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  Speaker 2: The kids are getting it taken away. Jennifer gave and
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  Speaker 2: moved on. Why can't Shannon just say, okay, let's just
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  Speaker 2: move on everybody, like, let's go, let's be friends.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you why I've always said, and
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  Speaker 1: you corroborated this too, that when it comes to the
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  Speaker 1: Housewives show, for some of them, not all of them,
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  Speaker 1: but for some, there is this sense of the lions.
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  Speaker 1: And for me, when Tamarack got fired, Shannon stopped talking
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  Speaker 1: to her. Yes, Tamara said that on my podcast while
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  Speaker 1: she was fired.
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  Speaker 2: It's true. I've been here, so I.
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  Speaker 1: Know if that's your real friend and you guys have
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  Speaker 1: a real friendship, show or no show. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: be friends. You're getting married soon. Your wedding guests include
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  Speaker 1: Tamar and Heather, amongst a lot of people. They're not
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  Speaker 1: on the show with you this season. However, you're still
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  Speaker 1: friends with them. And you had a very tough season
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  Speaker 1: last season, and you had moments between yourself having Tamra
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  Speaker 1: that you three had to work through. And I'm happy
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  Speaker 1: y'all work through it, right, That's what real friends do.
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  Speaker 1: I've said this before. When a housewife gets removed from
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  Speaker 1: the show, that's when you realize who is your real friend.
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  Speaker 1: Shannon doesn't see a need for Tamara anymore. And look,
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  Speaker 1: I understand that Tamar was very disrespectful to Shannon last
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  Speaker 1: season with the costs drunk comment. I one thousand percent
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  Speaker 1: thought that was not right, and I told Tama herself,
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  Speaker 1: and Tamara apologized for it. Yeah. No, me and Tamara
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  Speaker 1: are fine. I told Tama, said, Tamma, that's not nice.
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  Speaker 1: She she gave her reasons, but my point is she
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  Speaker 1: did apologize for it. What I find so fascinating is
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  Speaker 1: the way Shannon yelled at Katie this season. We discover
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  Speaker 1: a few days ago Alexis Bellino that Shannon still follows
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  Speaker 1: Katie on Instagram? So should Katie forgive you? Because my
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  Speaker 1: thing is, Shannon, are you still following Katie because you
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  Speaker 1: don't want the backlash from social media who are coming
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  Speaker 1: after you?
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  Speaker 2: Didn't think about that? Wow?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? So so where where does the line drawn,
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  Speaker 1: let mean draw? Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 1: If you feel like Tamara was so bad to you, okay, fine,
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  Speaker 1: However you weren't the best friend to her when she
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  Speaker 1: was off the show. When she got back on the show,
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  Speaker 1: you and the girls felt like, oh shit, we got
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  Speaker 1: to like be nice because y'all talk shit about her
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  Speaker 1: when she wasn't on the show, and you guys thought
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  Speaker 1: this seas would be better and unfortunately it was the
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  Speaker 1: worst season of the history of the show. Now that
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  Speaker 1: Tamra's back, you don't like it, and that's what I
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  Speaker 1: got from it. And let's just skip to the end
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  Speaker 1: because we can go back to the other shit because
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  Speaker 1: we're going someplace with this.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, it's our show, Carlos. We don't have to follow
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  Speaker 2: any order of anything, right, Like, we don't have a
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  Speaker 2: script like some people get scripts when they do podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have a script. We just we don't even
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  Speaker 2: talk the week before. We just show up. So you
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  Speaker 2: go go to the end and then we'll go back
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  Speaker 2: to the Viginna.
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  Speaker 1: And that's my love you so much, Praye. Okay, So look,
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  Speaker 1: even at the dinner, you know, Tamra and Jen are
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  Speaker 1: trying to find a resolution. And look, I was shocked
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't know this, and I want to get
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  Speaker 1: her us on this. When Jennifer and Tama were talking
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  Speaker 1: about this fatty photo, and Talma never said the word fatty,
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  Speaker 1: but she did say, look, it's not the best photo
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  Speaker 1: of you. Jennifer's like, what's the issue? Why are you
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  Speaker 1: so mad at me? And Tama reveals something that I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know. She said that when she was at Jen's house.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they were in Cabo that Ryan told Tamara
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  Speaker 1: I'm in love with Jen. Tamra said, but she's still married,
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  Speaker 1: and Ryan said she's leaving her husband. Tamra said she
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  Speaker 1: and Eddie fell dirty because they were at their they
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  Speaker 1: were at this woman's house presumably I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: the husband was there or do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: So I thought that was shocking as a revelation. What
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  Speaker 1: did you think about that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a lot because here's the thing. And
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  Speaker 2: then and then Jen proceeded to say, oh, but Tammary
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  Speaker 2: or somebody in an interview or something, you cheated on Eddie. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: with Eddie. And and here's the thing. I know Tamara
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  Speaker 2: very well, and it was not at cheating. Were they
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  Speaker 2: fully divorced? I don't think so at that point, but
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  Speaker 2: it was not cheating. Okay. I don't know what happened
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  Speaker 2: with Jen and and you know Ryan, but it does
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  Speaker 2: open your eyes to where if if if Tamara is like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel good about the fact that I know
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  Speaker 2: this information because you know, Will's a good guy and
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  Speaker 2: you have a good marriage, and why are you doing
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  Speaker 2: this with Ryan? I mean, if that's going on in
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  Speaker 2: Tamar's mind, which is kind of where I feel. What
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  Speaker 2: that scene, you know, when she said, well you were
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  Speaker 2: you were cheating on your husband. However, do we really
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  Speaker 2: know Carlos. Jen hasn't admitted it. Number one? Number two,
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  Speaker 2: Ryan and have been together a lot of years now,
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  Speaker 2: and Will and and and Jen obviously were not good
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  Speaker 2: for each other. So uh, I don't No, It's like
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  Speaker 2: I don't just listen to face value of everything I hear.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I have learned in my forty eight years
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  Speaker 2: of life. So I just don't know if do you
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  Speaker 2: think the cheating's true?
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  Speaker 1: I think this and I listen. I've never been married,
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  Speaker 1: but I've also been around tons of people, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: professional or personnel, who have been technically married, but they're
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  Speaker 1: either separated or someone fiul for divorce or they're going
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  Speaker 1: through a divorce.
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  Speaker 2: Right me, right here?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good.
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  Speaker 2: I was separated and we both started dating before our
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  Speaker 2: we signed the black ink on the on the contract
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  Speaker 2: that we are officially divorced. So you know, when you're
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  Speaker 2: in a loveless marriage, it's like I probably didn't sleep
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  Speaker 2: with my ex for like three years, okay, Like we
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  Speaker 2: were loveless. Okay, so by the time we finally got divorced,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, okay, like it's like now or like separated.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we both knew we were divorcing. We weren't nesting,
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  Speaker 2: we weren't staying in the same home anymore together. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not gonna sit there and talk tell me he's cheating
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  Speaker 2: or I'm cheating if I go on a date, because
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  Speaker 2: we know that the contract's coming at some point the
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  Speaker 2: divorce decree that we're gonna sign, right, So I think
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's to each their own, and there are
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  Speaker 2: very many people that do believe it's still cheating until
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  Speaker 2: that black ink is on the paper. So I think
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  Speaker 2: everybody has to handle divorce on the way that they would.
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  Speaker 2: It's not easy. It stinks. No one goes into a
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  Speaker 2: marriage thinking you're going to get divorced. Mine's around the
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  Speaker 2: corner right now, and I'm scared because I'm like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't ever want to get divorced again, but it's like
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  Speaker 2: you can't live life and fear.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't believe.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if jin I don't know if she cheated.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know, and I don't really care.
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  Speaker 2: They're Ryan's together now, so great guy took her kids in.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is reality with the King, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: Carlos King. Let's get back into to the show. I
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  Speaker 1: give jen the benefit of the doubt because of what
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  Speaker 1: you just said. You don't have to even be separated officially,
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  Speaker 1: but you can beat in a loveless marriage. So what
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  Speaker 1: I will give Jennifer is the fact that look, yes,
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  Speaker 1: maybe she not maybe yes, she was technically married. However,
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  Speaker 1: what the world doesn't know is what their marriage was
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  Speaker 1: like at the time where Ryan fell in love with
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  Speaker 1: Jen And I think at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to Ryan and Jen, I love them
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: together based on what I'm seeing on the show, and
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: he took her kids in. Jennifer looks happy. She never
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: looked better, and I think that's fine. But when it
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: comes to the dig that Shannon may, I feel like this.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Don't do the dig in the confessionals. Do the digg
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: in person, because that's when, to me is a kopa
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: move right.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: And that really bothers me when any housewife does that.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: It's like you say so much on camera when you're
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: alone with the producer and just the ring light and
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: the produce and the green screen, But then when you're
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: in Because here's the thing, Carlos, anything I will even
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: tell you, and my friends all know this. Anything I say,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: or if there's no gossiping with alexis if I say
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: something to you, I'm going to be able to say
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: it to that person's face. That's the way that I
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: run my life, and that's the way I feel the
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: housewives should. If you're going to get behind the face
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: the safe screen. You should be doing it to the
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: person's face. And I don't know why the other women
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: don't call each other out and say why you got
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: so many balls behind the screen, But when it comes
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: to me, you don't have. You won't talk to me
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: in person about it, because that's what I would do,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: You know, I would. I would. I even did that
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: in season eighteen. I'd be like, that was gnarly. Why
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: didn't you tell me you felt that way to my face?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Like why are you can talk bad behind?
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah? No, we call those confessional gangsters. So that's exactly
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: what is when you when you hide behind the camera
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and you don't stay it in this person's face, which
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: which also leads me to this, and I want to
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: get your thoughts on it. You are friends with have
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: their aunt Tamera. No one is better suited to answer
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: this question than you. While Heather was having dinner and
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Emily was there, Emily said, look, Heather, Jan thinks you're
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: scared of Tamera. My favorite part is when Heather responded,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: well what did you say? Which I was like, what
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: a fucking comeback?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Mike?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Drop Mike. Emily gagged and said, I don't remember which
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to me, love you, Emily. That was a Coppob move
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and Heather to me won that moment. Heather said, look,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: during the low Detective test, when they asked me if
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I'm scared of Tamera, Heather said, look, it was it
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: was around the moment where me or her, you know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: have that issue. But fundamentally I am not scared of Tamera.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: You're friends with both of these ladies. Do you think
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Heather is scared of Tamera A million person?
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: No, what, Heather's not scared of anyone, number one, number two.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: But Heather is Switzerland, and I would tell Heather that's
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: to her face. Heather wants to play Switzerland. She wants
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: to keep everybody as her friend, except when you cross
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: a certain line, like I think if you cross the
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: line with her children, that girl's not gonna be Switzelan anymore.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: But I do feel for the most part on the show, Heather,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: you know, I love you and you can call me later.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I don't care. I mean, I mean I do care.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I mean I'll have a conversation with you, but I don't.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: She is not scared of Tamra. She just wants everyone
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: to have a little bit more koumbaya and be friends,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: you know, and find a way to move past the conflict.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Resolution is the basis of the show. That's what Heather wants,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: that's what she strives for, and she wants everyone else
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: to try to find a way, Like even in the
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: restaurant when she's taken the picture and she's like, oh, okay,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: you know, like that was the last EPI yeah, she
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: just wants everybody to be friends and find a way
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: to work through it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that's bad listen, But comic conflict
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: resolution is the basis of the show. And that's the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: reason why I appreciate the fact that, look Tamra is
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: on this apology tour, she's saying I'm sorry, she is
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: saying it, and look, I also me being very honest.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I also understand why some of the women feel like, Okay,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit, you know, Larry, Arry, Larry apprehensive
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: about receiving it, because when you do this again, that
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: that to me is fundamental when it comes to Shannon. Though,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: the reason why it doesn't make sense to me when
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: it comes to Shannon is because last year, after the reunion,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: when they did that scene where it was sort of like,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: you know, and just like that. You know, it was
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: like the girls got together, they have a lady's lunch
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: and you know, Sex and the City spin off where
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: they're all like, oh, we love each other, life is
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: so great. We forgive each other, which to me was
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: sort of like we have to show the audience that
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: we're real friends. I called bullshit on avent and based
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: on what oh girl, I I mean, do you want
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: to tell you the truth?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: How I felt no light of me, Carlos, I mean,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: tell me the truth.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: This is reality with the king, for Heaven's sake. I
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: thought that scene was a little finger to you, and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I said that my podcast last year. I thought, do
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you think.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Do you think for one moment the tamer did not
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: get a phone call right effing away? Okay and Heather
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: and both of them were then kissing my ass. I mean,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: are sorry, I'm not cussing Anyways, they were both and like,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: oh no, but this is what happened. That is how
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: it happened. I took it all with a grain of salt.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: But here's the one thing I do know is that
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: my friendships with them are deep enough, and I know
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: that I love them both so much, and they do
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: love me deep down and they will defend me and
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: they will stick up for me when it really comes,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you know, push comes to shove. That I forgave and
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: moved on, and other people were like, how can you
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: forgive them? How are you moving on from this? And
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, to be honest, it's like, okay, so
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: if your kid lies to you, are you just gonna
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: kick them out and say forget you, you lied and
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you're a horrible human, or are you gonna know they
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: need a little correction. It's gonna be okay, let's coddle
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: them a little bit, you know. So it's like I
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I moved on. We had deep, hard conversations with tears
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: and anger, and then we moved past it. And here
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: we are grown women who are forty eight and fifty
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: ish that moved on because that's what you do. You
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: forgive and you move on in life. Nobody's perfect.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Carlos m h, I love that. I love that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: A mid middle finger to me, it was you are
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: one million percent right, That's what That's what the show
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: was doing. Basically, the show was saying, Alexis, we can't
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: have a space for you. Anymore because you were so
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: hated due to lies and not a truth being shown
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: for poor America to have witnessed. So that, yeah, it
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: was an f you to me. And that's okay. I've
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: got thick skin, honey, after fifteen years on TV, I've
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: got thick skin. You can tell me anything and I'll
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: be like, Eh, you're.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, No, that's what I thought. It wasn't listen.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: And I love the fact that you Tamera Heather were
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: able to have a conversation. And I also think too,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: in their defense, the show had to do a reset,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and I think, look, there's one thing Tamra said recently
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: an interview is she's a different person on the show
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: than she is in real life. And what that means
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: based on her definition, and I understood what she meant
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: by that is when the cameras are on, you sort
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: of become this amplified version of yourself. Right. It's some
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: people do that, a lot of people don't. But she's
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: one of the ones who admitted that, Look, that's what
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I do. So when I saw that saying, I, for one,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: never never took that personally for you. When it came
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to Tamera Heather, I just thought they had to do
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: something to bring the show back to a reset. But
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I thought it was definitely.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Well. First of all, Heather told information that was not
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: hers to share. That is where I got the most
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: mad at Heather. She was not to share that with
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Shannon or the production team or anyone else. That was
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: me telling her something in confidence. That was something that
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: was very hurtful and something that should never have been
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: talked about. As you noticed, I didn't do it. However,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: when when I feel like it's not that you're a
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: different person on camera, because like for me, last season
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: didn't look like me, but that's because so much was
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: left out. It was it was snippets of things that
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: didn't show. If you would have played two minutes, that
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: snippet wouldn't looked like that. It would have been a
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: two minute you would have seen more to the you
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, So if for
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: the I don't know, I I think camera is herself
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: on camera and off camera. I really do. And I
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: don't think. I think that the women have to do
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: a job. And that's where I sat back and I go, Okay,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: hold on, alexis are these your TV friends or are
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: they your real friends? And did they have a TV
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: moment where they had to be a TV friend? Yes,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: they had a TV moment where they had to be
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: a TV friend. But when I go back to my
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: you know, my playbook of my years and years with
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: them and times they have been here for me and
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: times that we have had true friendship, I go, they
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: had a TV moment, but they are my true friend.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Can't say that about others. There are others that are
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: just TV friends. And that's okay. You got to do
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: a job. Reality is not for everyone, and it is hard.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It's a hard job. So I just forgave and moved on,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: and that's what Shannon needs to do right now. But
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: she's bitter and I think she's unhappy in her life
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: and she can't move past it to go okay, let's
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: put on a TV hat and move on so that
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: the show can move forward. But unfortunately grudge's equal getting fired.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you gotta be careful you do. And I think, listen,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say this. I think Shannon needs to
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: set out next season, whether that's a friend role. I
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: just she's not fun and she's not having fun. And
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I do think a break can do the body good,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: you know. And I think for me personally, I'm a
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: fan of the show. I think Shannon needs a break,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Like I think, take a season off, enjoy life, maybe
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: come back refreshed. Shannon hasn't been good on the show
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: in years. And I think the reason why last year
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of people felt sorry for Shannon was because
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: obviously Tamra was calling her those names. She had to
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: deal with you and John and all those things, and
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: it made people whatever. But I think I think this season, everybody,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: even the Shannon stands, which is why you can never ever, ever, ever, ever,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: ever ever ever ever believe believe the hype. Just don't
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: believe the hype. People love you today, hate you tomorrow.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I think Shannon needs to sit up next season. I
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: don't I don't care to see it. So one thing
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about too in that in that
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: episode was the fact that look, she's like, you called
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: me these names, Hamma, you called me a drunk. Tama said, Look,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I apologize, but what do you want from me? And look,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you want to feel that way, fine, And this is
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: why Tama's good for the show, y'all. Tamra said, Look,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Gina is even concerned about your drinking.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: And then it goes to be continued. That's why I said,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: next season is gonna next next I'm so sorry, not
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: next season. Next episode is gonna be good because I
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: love the to be continued.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I do too.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: You're like no, you're done, no, and you want to
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: just press for fast forward to the next honey.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: It was so good because I'm like, wait, what's going on?
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: And you could tell Gina was like fucking visch Tamera,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and you got like, oh.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Jena was so mad at that moment. But here's the thing.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Don't put anything past Tammer, which is
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: why the show was so successful. She's the longest running housewife,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: thank you very much, because she knows how to carry
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the show forward and also to call things out. Tamra
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: knows so much about me. I mean, I'm talking how
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: many hemorrhoids I have? Okay, she not everything, and she
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: doesn't go to certain places on television. Okay, she does
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: do what she knows will take the show far enough,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: but she keeps some things to herself. Okay. So so
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: that's what I want America to know, because yes, maybe
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: she can take the show forward. However, she doesn't throw
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: under the bus too too low like Shannon was like,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: oh you, oh so low. I'm like, Shannon, you go
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: low all the time. Let's please. I was like, I
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: was wishing at that moment that Bravo would have gone
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: back and shown all of the time Shannon's gone low
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: below the belt that are horrible, And it's like these women,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I'm just I rulemize it. It's funny. Okay, no, it was.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: It was. It was so good. It was so shocking
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, what is happening And the fact that
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Gina was like, well, I am concerned about you and
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and it's like no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Tamra said, you're concerned about her drinking, not her as
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a person. So I felt like, Okay, Gina, We're going
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: to get into some things because I'm curious as to
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: what is going on between that. But look, this is
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: why I strongly believe this, and I don't care who
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: disagrees with me. When Tamra was fired from the show,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I strongly believe all of those women felt like, who
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: we can breathe because there's not someone on this show
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: that's going to keep us honest and push us. And
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: that to me is what Tamar is good at and
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: that's why very much. Yeah, no, that's why she's good
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: at her job. What are your thoughts when it comes
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: to the state of this show, Alexis. What's been happening
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: right now is this Katie Janella was not in this
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: episode at all, and based on some internal knowledge that
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I have, you may not see her ever again. They
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: haven't made That's what I'm not sure. That's the word
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: on the street that you may not see Katie Janella
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: again if you do maybe one episode or two. But
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of what people are saying is the fact
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that the ladies did not want to film with Katie.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: This episode was a non Katie episode. The state of
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the show is going through this very interesting face because
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: on one end, Alexis is a huge hit. It constantly
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: rates number two of the top TV shows on Peacock.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this season, but the audience feels like, what
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: is this show without Katie? And if there needs to
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: be a recast? So not to sort of ask about
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: a recast because it's too soon for that and we'll
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna do that. After the reunion but as
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: of right now, let me ask you this first. Do
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: you feel Gretchen's comeback has been great or a huge letdown?
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: This is the problem, Carlos, is that I don't have
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know how to sometimes hold my tongue. Okay,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: it's not a good time to ask me about Gretchen
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: after what just came out. I'm not I don't think
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I have one positive thing to say about her as
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: a human being at all at the moment, So let's
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: not talk. Oh well, just came across my phone? Is
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: it only on mine? Because I don't even get on Instagram?
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: How she compared? And I didn't even screen shot it?
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: And I should have screens shot it because I don't
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: even remember how to get back to it. It was on
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: some Bravo blog site that she agreed that LGBTQ and
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: trans are the same as pedophiles, or in some contacts
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: like that. No, I'm I was living. I couldn't even
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: help myself. I went back and texted to that I've
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: got to find it. I hormented to this site and
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I go, oh my gosh, are you serious? Is this real?
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I am fing living? I didn't say fing because my
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: children can read that. I'm trying not, I promise them,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I'm stopping cussing. I really have been good lately. Anyway,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I said, I am livid because you know, I have
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: an LGBTQ child and and so I I don't know.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I can't even you can't even bring her name up
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: to me right now without me just being really pissed off.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it takes it to another level, Like my
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: heart right now is racing. You can hear my voice. Yeah, yeah,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I will die for my kid, So you will shut
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the f up, period.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: So no, no, no's okay. So I do want to say
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: this because I didn't see that. But the good thing
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: about us doing this live is the fact that we
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: are able to definitely fact check some things and corroborate
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: some stuff. So I'm gonna say alleged because I'm gonna
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: say something after that. So allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, Gretchen
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Rossy liked a post where the post said, when you
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: open the door to homosexuality, you open the door to pedophilia.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: You never you'll never win, You'll never win by normalizing perversion, Alexis,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Gretchen Rossy alleged that those screenshots were fake and that
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: she is actually a supporter of the l g pt
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Q plus community.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Of course she has to back pedal.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: This is what she told the Sun. Okay, Alexis and
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: rain John's again, this is live and I'm reading to
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: you live. Gretchen told the Son allegedly, it's my understanding
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: that there is a small group of Housewife fan sites
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and blogs passing a story around that I allegedly liked
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: highly offensive post. This is false. Those are manipulated screenshots
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: meant to cause harm to my reputation and bring attention
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: to themselves. I firmly stand against any form of hatred
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: and bigotry. Have always fully supported the lgpt Q plus community.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: That's her statement.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Of course, that's a great statement. Good job.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: You don't. You don't. You don't buy it one bit.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I don't buy it. Your name doesn't just show up
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: as a like under somebody's post if you don't do
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: it because I did, like, I did comment on that.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think I liked the post because I was
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: so distraught by it, but I didn't make a comment.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: How does that get there? It's how did it just happen?
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: How? How is it. How is it fake? How is
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: it fake? Carlos? But anyway, let's move on to the show,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: because maybe we need to make another topic, another show
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: just for this. But yeah, yeah, it's my kid we're
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: talking about, so.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: No, and it's me. I'm a I'm an obly gay man,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: So I I get you for sure. And again, based
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: on what people are saying, allegedly, they're saying this happened
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: a few years ago, which is why people think it
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: is true. They're saying that this allegedly is not a
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: recent pose, that this happened years ago, which is why
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: people believe this is true. Gretchen has now.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: She's in the limelight, and now she got caught for it.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: So what she got to do? You got to try
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: to do damage control? This is all damage control. I
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: don't buy it for one second, and it's disgusting, disgusting,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: So I can't really give you if I feel she's
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: good for the show or not. I don't know how
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: anyone is good for a show that has that kind
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: of hate in their heart or that kind of you know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I know, I don't think anyone's good for the show
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: like that. I do think she brings, you know, I
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: love a lot of her fake chanel and I like
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: her some of her the way that she carries herself
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: with her costumeish thing. I think it's kind of fun.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I do turn on the show every time and go, Okay,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: what's she going to be wearing today, you know, So
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: it's kind of fun. And I do think she could
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: bring a lot to the show as a full time
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: cast mate. I think that she could. It's just I
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: don't know how if if this even is true or not.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know where it's going to go from here,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: but it's I don't know how anyone could want someone
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: employed under them with that kind of you know. I mean,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: look at Heather, She's got four LGBTQ children or three
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: of them, three of the four, like so, I don't know.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know where it can go from here.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: At Carlos, I have a filming. It's going to come
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: up at the reunion, and I cannot wait to see
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: how to your point, the ladies talk about this, this
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: would be very very interesting. This was a Katie less episode.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Katie has emerged as somebody of the fans want to
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: stay on the show, not you're not on on social
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: media as much and I love that for you, but
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I want to read you one more me probably let
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: you go. The fans have done a poll of who
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: they want back for next season, which would be the
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: celebration of season twenty of The Real House, Basher Bors County,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Alexis Melino. They want Vicky gobbleson.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, they want funny and good.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: This who they want to make a comeback? Vicky, Joe
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: and Alexis Blino.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Oh stop, no, no, they listen. They don't want Katie because.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no meeting, no no meeting, no no. Okay,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: so let me let me tell. Let me say everybody
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: so to your okay, I'll say, I'll say who they
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: want back? Okay. This is a poll that was ran
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: on Twitter by a Bravo Bravo handle, not Bravo TV verified,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: but another Bravo fan handle about who they would like
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: to see back Seaton twenty. The names included Tamar, Judge, Heather,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Debro what I'm just here, I'm just here to report
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: the dows. It was Tamra, Heather, Katie, Vicky, Joe, Alexis
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: and they also said they would like to see Gina,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: who was omitted from that list was Shannon and Emily.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Wow. I mean, honestly, Carlos, I'm shocked because I don't.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not on Twitter at all, even though I should
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: make but I i'm and I'm not on Instagram, not
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: much other than like I told you to do some
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: of my things and find out weird crap like I
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: did about Grutching. But anyway, which I didn't even it
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: popped up. I was not searching. I don't search for
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: things on my phone anyway. That is very shocking to me.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Why is it shocking to you?
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I know I'm not shocked about Vicky
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: because Vicky is a freakin' WoT. I mean, yeah, I've
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: been at it. I went at her in the media
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: because she attacked my husband in a few weeks or
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not okay, don't okay, don't in a couple of days,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: a couple of months whatever, I'm getting married. Anyway, she
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: attacked him on the internet and like in interviews. So
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I had some harsh words for her because you don't
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: come after my family. People, just do not. You can
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: do whatever else you want, don't come after my family
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: or my fur babies and anyway, but when you you know,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I tried to be unbiased doing this podcast.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: She's freaking funny Carlos, and she's good on TV.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Don't you think, Oh, Vicky is one of the greatest.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Some people are her and wanted her gone, but I
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: think she's hysterical.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I'll say this, and again, I don't care about the
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: popular opinion. I've never I've never been that guy. I
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: will say this. I have been a fanom O Sea
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: since season two. I don't watch season one, and and
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I became a fan of the
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: showman Tammar when Tama joined because she brought this level
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: of like comedy and and honest and honestly yes show,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: so I started watching season two. Vickie is definitely the
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: og of the OC. I am one of the rare
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: people possibly who enjoyed her last season when she stormed
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: out of like the reunion and this is I like
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: what a housewife said, this is my show because to me,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I like a healthy ego. So I wasn't mad about it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I did think this. I did think, maybe give Vicky
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: a pause, you know, give her a season off so
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: she could come back and miss it. I Carlos King
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent support Vicky govleson coming back to the
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: show season twenty. I would love to see it. I
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: would love to see Joe making appearance. Joe has said
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: that her and Gretchen got into an argument that they
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: edited out allegedly. I would love it.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I know the tea behind that, Carlos, because I got
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the phone call right after that from Jojo and she's like,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna believe what just happened on this when
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I was filming and then was all cut up. Well, okay,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I can't tell all. I'm not going to because I
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: did not get Joe's a permission and I try not to.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Like I might have already lost Hammer as a friend
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: from stuff I just disclosed. I cannot lose two friends
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: in one podcast. I can't even remember exactly what it was,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: but they they like to the tea of exactly what
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the argument was. But Gretchen and her were going at
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: it like literally like like at it, and then you know,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: when you're done filming. It is kind of weird when
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: you're filming a show because it's like you do do that,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: and then it's like, okay, but we're doing a job,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: So okay, can we hug and go up? So what
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: made Joe so mad is that they edited out the
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: whole argument, because Joe's point would have been proven during
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: this argument that now I can't I'm a bad friend.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly what it was. But then they
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: hug it out at the end, and Joe was just
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: she calls me and she was so ticked off. She's
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: like I hugged her and it's like she's not even nice,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: and like we went at it and it's gonna air.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Now I'm going to look, you know, it looks we're
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: gonna be yelling at each other. And then it didn't
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: air and it only shows them hugging. So that's just
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: one example of editing on a national television show that's
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: a reality show, and you know, one twenty fifth of
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: what happened to me last season, we're only saw the
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: certain things and everything else is cut on the chopping
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: worm floor. So you know, I know Joe was ticked
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: about that she wanted that shown because it did. I
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: don't remember. I wish. I'm biting my tongue ring because
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I'm mad at myself because I can't think of what
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: exactly the argument was about but she wanted. She almost
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: was more mad that it didn't air than when she
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: called me and she was mad that it had just happened.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: She was mad that it didn't air because it would
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: have shown I guess more you know about their argument,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: and some truth would have been shown about Joe.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: So so rain drops, so catchy, All up to speed,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and we're going to move on. Joe was an original
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: cast member of the Real House watson Worth County who
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: dated Slave Okay season one, Season one, Baby season one. Okay.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: The feud between Joe and Gretchen arose from their share
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: connection to Slay because, as I know, Gretchen is married
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: to Slay.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, excuse me, back up. They are not married or did.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: You're not married?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: They are boyfriend and girlfriend and why do they have
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: heavy and wifey hanging in their house? You are not
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: married people. You did not go before God and say
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: you're vows. You are boyfriend or fiancee. But anyways, they
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: are not married. But now I'm kind of remembering it.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Joe was friends with Gretchen when they Gretchen started dating Slade.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: That was part of the feud of why Gretchen and
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Gretchen and Joe are not close anymore because and then
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Joe was even because she's married now to a very
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: good guy, Karen Gray's she's Joe Gray now. But anyways,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: she is married, and she was very hurt by the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: fact that her friend would date a guy that she
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: was engaged to, because Slayden and Joe were engaged when
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: they first started the show, or maybe they got engaged
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: on the show. I don't remember the details on.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: That, Lizzie. Yeah, yeah, that's part.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Of the beef. That's part of the beef. But Joe
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: was willing to move on, especially during this season when
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: she was coming on as like you know, cameo appearances.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: She was ready to move on. She's like, look, we're
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: both older now, she's got a kid, I'm married. Who cares,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: you know? But something happened with that. I'll get back
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: to you if you want to. I'll call Joe when
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: we get done and I'll find out for next Friday
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: and we can do another little recap on this.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I guess what we called that to be continued. Hey,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: we've got the.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Clip figures now exactly what the fight was that was
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: cut out and not shown on this episode.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so I will say this rain jobs. Don't
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: forget that Slaid had sex with Laurie between Joe and Gretchen.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Huh, remember, because I went to Bravocon. This is funny, good,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: This is good, guys. I went to Bravocon. And so
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I'm on stage getting ready to present Vicky Gumbelson the
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: award for They flew us out for Bravocon. They flew Joe, Lorii,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Me and Gretchen out for Bravocon to present this award
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: to Vicky for the Original Housewife Award. And the room
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: is full, okay, and we're on stage, and guess what
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I do. Because I'm such an idiot, I went off
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: script and I said, because they gave you know, they said,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: what do you want to say? And then there's a
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: prompter and we're reading the prompt. Okay, but Alexis Bilino
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: just does some Alexis Billino stuff sometimes, okay.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: It's now my cue and I go, well, as the
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: only housewife's standing up here that hasn't slept with Slade Smiley,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: and everybody's gone because I was the only one standing
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: up on stage that hadn't even like you, you know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: but Anyways, Andy Cohen lost his marbles. He's like, he's like,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: he gets on the mic and he goes and they
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: cut some of this out to show it when they're
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: airing everything. But he's like, uh, she did go off
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: script everyone, and she was off script. And then they're like, no,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Le's just get back on, like get back on. So
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I got a risk slap, but then I also did
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: get a lot of calls from production being like that
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: was an epic good job, and I'm just like, no,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I could not say it. I couldn't. It's just funny.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: It's like we can't laugh at ourselves. If we can't
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: laugh at ourselves, I'm getting married for the third time.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: People come on, three charms a charm? If you can't
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: laugh at yourself, what do you have in life? Like just.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: A my thing is? This? My thing is? This is
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: the reason why I just love you so much And
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: it makes me happy when I read the comments and
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, Carlos, it was not on my being a
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: car that I would be enjoying Alexis so much. And
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: they all said, Alexis, we want to see this alone
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: access on the show, and that's why you don't have
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: to say anything. It's my job. That's why I'm advocating
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: for that all star list, that the that the the
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Bravo fans have polled, because look, you're funny. I know,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, but look you're hilarious and I
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: think I think that's that's what should happen. But I
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: will say this to close out the Joie thing. Joe
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Dela Rossa did respond to Gretchen and because Gretchen was
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: on a podcast and said something and I just want
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: to read to you all what she said. Okay, because
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: this is what happened while talking in a car as
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: she was on her way to celebrate Alexis getting married
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: to John.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, so I watched this TikTok or whatever it was.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I forget which which which platform is on, but everyone
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: should tune in and watch it because Joe does not
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: hold back. So go Carlos, go. No.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: It was good because Joe was responding to an after
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: show that word Gretchen and Jennifer was talking about her.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: She says, I was, first of all a little bit
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: surprised because it starts with Jen asking who's Joe, And
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: that's wild to me. I literally met Jen at the
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: season finale last year. We thought she was the sweetest,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: nicest person I used to work for Ryan. I got
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: her number, I said, it was so nice to meet you.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: And then I was trying to get together with her
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: for lunch because I have some things I wanted to
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: tell her. So she said it was wild that she
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: said that despite texting with her, and then Gretchen of
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: it all, Joe said, insisting that they've had a long
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: and messy journey. We started out years ago as friends,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: even though she claims we were not friends. She then
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: detailed how she apologized to Gretchen a Bravo Khanna a
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: few years back, and at that time she truly meant it.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: And then fast forward to this season, Joe said, Tama
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: breaks me to have this party. Days before we go
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: to her birthday, I get a podcast sent to me
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: and it's Gretchen talking about how desperate I am trying
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: to get back on the show. To me, that does
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: not signify somebody who is wanting to start over. When
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: she talked about the unaired scene between them, she did
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: say that she and I are not good and there
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: was an entire argument that happened at have this party
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: that never got shown. The only thing you saw is
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: her having giving me a hug. There's actually more to
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: that story. I thought it was weird that she came
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: up to me after I just got a podcast sent
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: to me where she's literally Alexis trashing my name. A
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: couple of days before I shot the episode with Tamra,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: an entire blowout happened. The argument got so heated, Joe
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: says she. The argument got so heated that, Joe says,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Slade jump in at one point, Yes, and Joe told
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: him that Gretchen doesn't need a mouthpiece and she did
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: not need him to speak for her. Joe said, it
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: got ugly and it got messy. Girlfriend.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: So so boys and girls, everybody, I will get the goose,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: the juice. I was gonna say, gossip and juice, and
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: a came goose. Okay, I'm gonna get the juice, and
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: I am going to bring it next week. I know
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Joe will give me the okay because Joe wants her
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: boys heard too. But I forget the details because there
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: were a couple Just so you know, there were a
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: couple of times Joe filmed that things didn't get shown
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: that you know, got chopped out so I don't remember
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: the details of that one specific, but I will get
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the dirt and I will bring it to you. Carlos King.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Rain Drops. We call that a to be continued. Alexi Delino,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: thank you so much. Have a great weekend, my sister,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: and you'll be back next week with all the tea
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: from John. See you next week, See you next week,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you, rain Drops. Reality with the King is executive
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: produced by me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and
• 52:25
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• 52:29
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• 52:32
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