Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / James Comer And The Letter Sent To Leon Black (Part 2) (8/21/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
- 0:06Speaker 1: and finish off the letter that was sent by Congress
- 0:10Speaker 1: to Leon Black, Part five non disclosure agreements or within
- 0:15Speaker 1: the scope of investigation. Your letter argues that Majority Staff
- 0:20Speaker 1: never indicated to mister Black Council that confidential and legally
- 0:24Speaker 1: binding agreements would be a subject covered in the interview.
- 0:27Speaker 1: To reiterate, the Committee did not agree to any limitations
- 0:31Speaker 1: on scope for the interview and had previously inquired of
- 0:34Speaker 1: several witnesses in this investigation about confidential and legally binding agreements.
- 0:40Speaker 1: The Committee asked questions about what it deemed to be
- 0:43Speaker 1: relevant to its investigation, which included questions about non disclosure
- 0:47Speaker 1: agreements signed by your client with women the Committee as
- 0:51Speaker 1: reason to believe to be connected to mister Epstein, as
- 0:54Speaker 1: was done with other voluntary witnesses in this investigation whose
- 0:59Speaker 1: interview transferred are publicly available. Similarly, your assertion that Majority
- 1:04Speaker 1: Staff then began asking questions that fell outside what mister
- 1:08Speaker 1: Black's council understood to be a reasonable interpretation of the
- 1:11Speaker 1: committee stated legislative purpose is misguided. It's the committee that
- 1:17Speaker 1: determines the scope of its inquiry, not the witness. Moreover,
- 1:21Speaker 1: the Committee asked appropriate questions about the number of non
- 1:25Speaker 1: disclosure agreements to which your client was a party, whether
- 1:28Speaker 1: there were other parties to the agreements, whether mister Epstein
- 1:32Speaker 1: was involved in any such agreement, and whether your client
- 1:36Speaker 1: knew about other individuals that possessed similar agreements that related
- 1:40Speaker 1: to mister Abstein. The reason for the committee's questions on
- 1:43Speaker 1: this topic are twofold. First, mister Abstein and his associates
- 1:48Speaker 1: used a variety of tools to control his victims and
- 1:51Speaker 1: other individuals in his orbit. The Committee is aware that
- 1:55Speaker 1: mister Abstein used non disclosure agreements to silence his associates,
- 1:59Speaker 1: some of whom have since come forward as victims and
- 2:02Speaker 1: survivors of his abuse. To conduct a complete and thorough investigation,
- 2:07Speaker 1: the Committee will pursue all relevant avenues of inquiry. The
- 2:10Speaker 1: Committee is also aware of the existence of at least
- 2:13Speaker 1: one non disclosure agreement between your client and a woman
- 2:17Speaker 1: who was connected to mister Epstein. The pursuit of this
- 2:20Speaker 1: investigative pathway and relevant facts surrounding it is necessary to
- 2:24Speaker 1: determine the nature and extent to which mister Epstein and
- 2:27Speaker 1: his associates use these confidential agreements, which in turn will
- 2:31Speaker 1: help determine whether legislation is necessary, and, if so, had
- 2:36Speaker 1: a craft such legislation to prevent such activity from reoccurring. Second,
- 2:41Speaker 1: the Committee's questions related to non disclosure agreements more broadly,
- 2:45Speaker 1: are pertinent to the committee's investigative purpose because of concerns
- 2:49Speaker 1: regarding potential victim association with these agreements. In a previous
- 2:54Speaker 1: transcribed interview before this Committee, a witness was hesitant to
- 2:57Speaker 1: answer questions about the identity of an individual with whom
- 3:01Speaker 1: the witness was associated. Upon disclosure of this individual's identity,
- 3:06Speaker 1: the committee immediately became aware of an existing connection between
- 3:10Speaker 1: the individual and mister Epstein, of which the witness was
- 3:14Speaker 1: not personally aware. Your client claims not to be aware
- 3:17Speaker 1: of any further connections between mister Epstein and other parties
- 3:21Speaker 1: to his agreements, but the Committee must inquire about details
- 3:25Speaker 1: of such agreements to conduct a complete and thorough investigation.
- 3:30Speaker 1: It's not the committee's prerogative to take a witness's personal
- 3:33Speaker 1: belief or assertion as an absolute, proven fact that is
- 3:36Speaker 1: merely stipulated or left otherwise unexplored. The Committee must gather
- 3:41Speaker 1: relevant information to draw evidence supported conclusions to support its
- 3:46Speaker 1: legislative prerogatives. Ultimately, it's the Committee, not you and your client,
- 3:51Speaker 1: that will determine the value and relevance of information your
- 3:54Speaker 1: client has regarding the Committee's investigation into the actions of
- 3:58Speaker 1: mister Epstein, Maxwell, and their associates. You also take issue
- 4:03Speaker 1: with the Committee' specific request for all non disclosure agreements
- 4:07Speaker 1: to which Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell are referenced. You
- 4:11Speaker 1: argue that these requests call for information beyond the scope
- 4:14Speaker 1: of the committee's investigation. The Committee disagrees if either mister
- 4:19Speaker 1: Epstein or miss Maxwell was associated with a party in
- 4:23Speaker 1: a non disclosure agreement to which your client, mister Black,
- 4:26Speaker 1: is a party, these documents would be directly relevant to
- 4:29Speaker 1: the Committee's investigation into mister Epstein and miss Maxwell. Furthermore,
- 4:35Speaker 1: non disclosure agreements with individuals who may have had a
- 4:38Speaker 1: connection with mister Epstein or miss Maxwell, regardless of your
- 4:42Speaker 1: client's knowledge of their connection, are relevant to the Committee's investigation.
- 4:47Speaker 1: That stated above, your client's records may highlight a new
- 4:50Speaker 1: individual of value to the Committee's inquiry or provide evidence
- 4:54Speaker 1: necessary for the Committee's consideration of policy or other legislative changes.
- 5:00Speaker 1: In defense of your production of a singular non disclosure agreement,
- 5:04Speaker 1: you argue that no extent any more such confidentiality agreement exists.
- 5:09Speaker 1: They would have been negotiated while after Epstein's death. However,
- 5:13Speaker 1: the fact that mister Black may have entered into other
- 5:16Speaker 1: confidentiality agreements after Epstein's death is not determinative of their
- 5:21Speaker 1: relevance or lack thereof to the Committee's investigation. Agreement signed
- 5:26Speaker 1: after mister Epstein's death could still involve as victims and
- 5:29Speaker 1: her relate to conduct in which mister Epstein was engaged. Further,
- 5:33Speaker 1: mister Black's argument is inapplicable to the involvement of Maxwell
- 5:37Speaker 1: in any agreement, as she is alive and subject of
- 5:41Speaker 1: this investigation. The subject of subpoena does not have the
- 5:45Speaker 1: right to decide what documents are responsive to or within
- 5:49Speaker 1: the scope of any any subpoena duly issued by Congress,
- 5:53Speaker 1: or their relevance to a valid legislative purpose. For these reasons,
- 5:58Speaker 1: the remaining documents are crucial to the investigation, and the
- 6:01Speaker 1: Committee must decide the investigative value of such documents during
- 6:05Speaker 1: the committee's investigation. Finally, while the Committee acknowledges your concerns
- 6:11Speaker 1: about the private nature of the contracts, congress legislative prerogatives,
- 6:16Speaker 1: and need for information the legislate or not limited to
- 6:19Speaker 1: the confidential terms of a private non disclosure agreement. Your
- 6:24Speaker 1: co council, Miss Estrich agrees with this sentiment, as she
- 6:27Speaker 1: emphasized that mister Black had not received a subpoena, but
- 6:30Speaker 1: that if he had, mister Black and Council would have
- 6:33Speaker 1: treated this situation differently. During the transcribed interview, your client
- 6:37Speaker 1: refused to answer nearly a dozen questions on the topic
- 6:41Speaker 1: of non disclosure agreements, which led to the issuance of
- 6:44Speaker 1: two subpoenas, one for your client's appearance at a deposition
- 6:48Speaker 1: on the since scheduled date of September three, and the
- 6:51Speaker 1: other that requires your client to produce the following documents.
- 6:57Speaker 1: One all non disclosure agreements to which Leon Black is party.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Two all non disclosure agreements to which Jeffrey Epstein or
- 7:05Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell is a party. Three all non disclosure agreements
- 7:10Speaker 1: to which Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell are referenced or
- 7:14Speaker 1: were involved in the preparation, execution, or enforcement thereof. The
- 7:19Speaker 1: Committee engaged in another call with you on August eleventh
- 7:22Speaker 1: to further discuss the document and deposition sub poenis. On
- 7:26Speaker 1: this call, you indicated that it's mister Black's intention to
- 7:29Speaker 1: find common ground on a path forward. The Committee completely
- 7:33Speaker 1: agrees to the extent that other NDAs or confidentiality agreements exist.
- 7:38Speaker 1: The Committee again reiterated the requirement to provide context and
- 7:42Speaker 1: clarification and for you to seek rational accommodations were appropriate. Additionally,
- 7:49Speaker 1: the August eleventh meeting, you reiterated a point addressed in
- 7:52Speaker 1: your July twenty fourth letter that to the extent that
- 7:56Speaker 1: any more confidentiality agreements exist, they would have been negotiate
- 8:00Speaker 1: well after Epstein's death. In fact, you stated that any
- 8:04Speaker 1: hypothetical counterparty was abundantly clear that mister Black should not
- 8:08Speaker 1: produce those agreements to the Committee because they do not
- 8:11Speaker 1: wish to be part of the small sliver of the
- 8:14Speaker 1: role mister Black played in Jeffrey Epstein's life, dealings and crimes.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Mister Black is the subject of the subpoena, and no
- 8:22Speaker 1: other party dictates what he produces to the Committee. To
- 8:26Speaker 1: yet again reiterate, the Committee requires such information to decide
- 8:31Speaker 1: if any of these additional parties were connected to Jeffrey Epstein,
- 8:35Speaker 1: are connected to Glenn Maxwell, or are connected to others
- 8:39Speaker 1: of their associates. Thus, its likely additional responsive documents are
- 8:43Speaker 1: in the custody of your client, mister Black. You and
- 8:46Speaker 1: your client, mister Black, do not possess the right to
- 8:49Speaker 1: unilaterally determine which agreements will produce a response to this
- 8:53Speaker 1: Committee subpoena for all non disclosure agreements. The production of
- 8:58Speaker 1: a singular non disclosure agreement after the Committee agreed to
- 9:02Speaker 1: extend the deadline in good faith by two weeks is
- 9:04Speaker 1: insufficient to fulfill the requirements of the subpoena. Considering your
- 9:09Speaker 1: letter fails to articulate that there are no further non
- 9:12Speaker 1: disclosure agreements and seems to imply additional non disclosure agreements exist,
- 9:17Speaker 1: the Committee demands full compliance with the subpoena and rejects
- 9:21Speaker 1: any attempt at further disrupting or delaying this investigation. Of course,
- 9:26Speaker 1: if your client seeks reasonable accommodations or has scoping requests,
- 9:31Speaker 1: the Committee, as has always been the case, is prepared
- 9:34Speaker 1: to review such requests. This is a common practice in
- 9:38Speaker 1: congressional negotiations. But to this point, no requests have been made.
- 9:43Speaker 1: During the August eleventh meeting, the Committee asked again for
- 9:46Speaker 1: you to confirm mister Black's appearance for his deposition on
- 9:49Speaker 1: September third, twenty twenty six, a date the Committee offered
- 9:53Speaker 1: as an accommodation to mister Black's schedule and his need
- 9:56Speaker 1: to prepare with counsel. The Committee reiterated that mister Black
- 10:00Speaker 1: was required to sit for his filmed transcribed deposition in
- 10:04Speaker 1: DC on September three, and you indicated that he could
- 10:09Speaker 1: appear on that date. Additionally, Committee Council offered to accommodate
- 10:13Speaker 1: mister Black to allow him to provide a privileged log
- 10:16Speaker 1: of NDAs to which he is a party, in order
- 10:19Speaker 1: to facilitate the production of response of NDAs relevant to
- 10:23Speaker 1: the Committee's investigation. During the August eighteenth meeting, Co Council
- 10:27Speaker 1: for mister Black stated that he would not agree to
- 10:29Speaker 1: provide a privileged log. Additionally, Co Council stated that mister
- 10:33Speaker 1: Black would be willing to provide one additional NDA, the
- 10:37Speaker 1: existence of which is publicly known due to litigation, in
- 10:40Speaker 1: exchange for an agreement that the Committee one agree not
- 10:44Speaker 1: the whole Mister Black in contempt related to either subpoena. Two,
- 10:47Speaker 1: change the deposition subpoena to a voluntary transcribed interview. Three
- 10:52Speaker 1: limit the scope of the transcribed interview regarding confidentiality agreements
- 10:57Speaker 1: to only the two NDAs mister Black was willing to provide.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Four delay the transcribed interview until late September or early October,
- 11:05Speaker 1: and five not video record the transcribed interview. This offer
- 11:09Speaker 1: is unreasonable and if accepted, would result in responsive documents
- 11:14Speaker 1: not being provided to the Committee and limits being placed
- 11:17Speaker 1: on the Committee's ability to ask questions directly relevant to
- 11:21Speaker 1: the Committee's investigation. The Committee's been clear it would be
- 11:25Speaker 1: willing to work with mister Black should he seek reasonable accommodations.
- 11:29Speaker 1: For example, the Committee is willing to limit the scope
- 11:32Speaker 1: of its subpoena for NDAs to the date on which
- 11:35Speaker 1: mister Black met Jeffrey Epstein to present. Additionally, the Committee
- 11:40Speaker 1: is willing to review in camera a privilege log listing
- 11:43Speaker 1: the parties to NDAs he is involved with to identify
- 11:47Speaker 1: those relevant to the Committee's investigation. At no point as
- 11:51Speaker 1: mister Black sought a reasonable accommodation from the Committee, but
- 11:55Speaker 1: rather he has consistently sought to dictate the Committee's scope
- 11:58Speaker 1: of its investigation. Mister Black's continued refusal to comply with
- 12:03Speaker 1: the Committee's legitimate subpoenas is unacceptable. If mister Black refuses
- 12:09Speaker 1: to provide the Committee with responsive documents or refuses to
- 12:12Speaker 1: appear for the scheduled deposition on September third, twenty twenty six,
- 12:16Speaker 1: the Committee will use all tools at its disposal, including contempt.
- 12:22Speaker 1: The Committee on House Oversight Government Reform is the principal
- 12:25Speaker 1: oversight committee of the US House Representatives and has brought
- 12:29Speaker 1: authority to investigate any matter at any time on your
- 12:33Speaker 1: House Rule ten. If you have any questions, please contact
- 12:37Speaker 1: Committee on Oversight Government Reform. This document was signed by
- 12:42Speaker 1: James Comer. All the information that goes with this episode
- 12:46Speaker 1: can be found in the description box.