Latest / ANCHORS AND EAGLES Podcast / Did Earth Open a Portal? UFOs, AI & Other Dimensions | Episode 50
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- 0:00SPEAKER_10: It's on fire today.
- 0:01SPEAKER_10: This guy's spicy.
- 0:02SPEAKER_07: He is spicy.
- 0:03SPEAKER_07: I don't know what's his deal, man.
- 0:05SPEAKER_10: Chili bowls.
- 0:05SPEAKER_10: It's kind of spicy.
- 0:09SPEAKER_10: You want to talk about it?
- 0:10SPEAKER_10: Oh, by the way, we're already live.
- 0:12SPEAKER_11: I mean, not live, but volcanoes, earthquakes, war, windstorms in DC.
- 0:18SPEAKER_11: We got waves bashing the West Coast.
- 0:22SPEAKER_08: Dude, it's the end of the world as we know it.
- 0:26SPEAKER_08: I feel fine.
- 0:28SPEAKER_10: I feel okay.
- 0:29SPEAKER_10: I feel okay.
- 0:30SPEAKER_10: I don't know about you guys, but yeah.
- 0:32SPEAKER_10: Bring it.
- 0:32SPEAKER_10: I've uh I've already immensely equipped myself for this uh actual event.
- 0:36SPEAKER_10: So that works.
- 0:37SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 0:40SPEAKER_06: In a world where truth lies between shadows and light, where anchors hold you down and eagles stare to rise above.
- 0:47SPEAKER_06: We dive into the untold stories that shape us all.
- 0:50SPEAKER_06: Sit tight.
- 0:52SPEAKER_06: Loos and close.
- 0:53SPEAKER_06: This is anchors and eagles with your hosts, Adam Fasenda and Geronima Gomez.
- 0:59SPEAKER_06: The views and discussions in this podcast are for entertainment purposes only.
- 1:05SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it's it's oh man.
- 1:06SPEAKER_10: Uh the earthquakes.
- 1:08SPEAKER_10: Uh not the earthquakes.
- 1:09SPEAKER_10: The earthquakes were one thing, right?
- 1:10SPEAKER_10: That was like a couple weeks ago.
- 1:12SPEAKER_10: But these volcanoes.
- 1:13SPEAKER_10: Well, they're all connected.
- 1:14SPEAKER_10: It's all connected.
- 1:15SPEAKER_10: I I know, but it's just like I think uh I forget what island it was on.
- 1:19SPEAKER_10: Like there's two uh erupting at the same time, which is like unheard of.
- 1:23SPEAKER_11: So the one that remember remember last podcast, remember, I don't know what podcast which one it was, but I was I was trying to find what's that one volcano that's really, really bad.
- 1:31SPEAKER_11: It's cracktoic in Italy.
- 1:33SPEAKER_11: And that's the one that's popping up in Indonesia.
- 1:35SPEAKER_11: That's the one that's popping off right now.
- 1:38SPEAKER_11: That was it before I said that before it was popping off, and now it's popping off.
- 1:43SPEAKER_10: I'm I'm dude.
- 1:44SPEAKER_10: I'm I'm I'm telling you, bro, it might be the end.
- 1:48SPEAKER_10: Maybe it might be the end.
- 1:49SPEAKER_10: Maybe because we've been waiting for Yellowstone to pop, and this might be it.
- 1:53SPEAKER_10: Maybe.
- 1:53SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
- 1:54SPEAKER_10: It's crazy.
- 1:55SPEAKER_10: It's a rap.
- 1:55SPEAKER_10: It's a rap.
- 1:56SPEAKER_11: It's a rap.
- 1:56SPEAKER_11: And what and what I don't mind about that is we all go at the same time.
- 2:00SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 2:01SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 2:01SPEAKER_11: It's gonna be like that movie.
- 2:02SPEAKER_11: We're all sitting at a dinner table and we're just having dinner.
- 2:06SPEAKER_11: You know?
- 2:06SPEAKER_11: Look up.
- 2:08SPEAKER_11: I really love the way you make this.
- 2:09SPEAKER_11: Yes, yes.
- 2:10SPEAKER_11: So good.
- 2:10SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 2:11SPEAKER_11: We should play a clip of that.
- 2:12SPEAKER_11: We should find a clip of that and can we?
- 2:14SPEAKER_11: Yeah, Jolie, can you find that?
- 2:16SPEAKER_07: A clip at the dinner?
- 2:17SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 2:18SPEAKER_11: It's at the end of the movie.
- 2:19SPEAKER_11: What was the movie called?
- 2:21SPEAKER_11: Uh Look Up.
- 2:22SPEAKER_11: Don't look up.
- 2:23SPEAKER_11: Don't look up.
- 2:25SPEAKER_10: But I want to look up.
- 2:26SPEAKER_10: I know, but it's called Don't Look Up.
- 2:28SPEAKER_10: Okay, geez, bro.
- 2:29SPEAKER_10: Mr.
- 2:30SPEAKER_10: Political.
- 2:32SPEAKER_10: Jeez, gosh.
- 2:33SPEAKER_10: I love this background.
- 2:35SPEAKER_10: I mean, it's ever changing.
- 2:37SPEAKER_10: So is the world, man.
- 2:38SPEAKER_10: You know, I'm shifting.
- 2:40SPEAKER_10: You're just moving with over here.
- 2:42SPEAKER_10: You're moving with it.
- 2:43SPEAKER_10: How did you like that?
- 2:45SPEAKER_10: Uh was it the UFO thing?
- 2:48SPEAKER_10: Dave Dave Jones.
- 2:50SPEAKER_10: Michael Johnson?
- 2:52SPEAKER_10: What are you talking about?
- 2:53unknown: Huh?
- 2:54SPEAKER_10: That uh podcast I sent you guys.
- 2:56SPEAKER_10: Yeah, with Michael Johnson.
- 2:57SPEAKER_10: With the two guys, the UFO abductees?
- 2:59SPEAKER_10: Johnson, yeah.
- 2:59SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 3:00SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 3:00SPEAKER_07: Yeah, we didn't get to finish well.
- 3:02SPEAKER_11: I I saw a lot of it.
- 3:03SPEAKER_11: I saw the regression, all that stuff.
- 3:07SPEAKER_11: Did you go deep into it?
- 3:08SPEAKER_11: I mean, how deep what do you mean how deep?
- 3:10SPEAKER_10: I mean, I watched Because that guy, the one guy has been going on forever talking about his buddy Johnson.
- 3:16SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 3:17SPEAKER_10: And then them going under, that was insane.
- 3:19SPEAKER_11: Like I didn't see, I I have yet to watch the other.
- 3:22SPEAKER_11: I saw Michael Johnson's going under, but I didn't see the other dudes going under.
- 3:27SPEAKER_10: It's not that good.
- 3:28SPEAKER_10: It's it's not that important.
- 3:30SPEAKER_10: I think what's more important is because uh the one guy has been talking about what's his name again?
- 3:34SPEAKER_10: I'm I'm drawing a blank right now.
- 3:37SPEAKER_10: Uh not Johnson, but what's the what's the Michael Johnson is the black dude, is his buddy that he was searching for.
- 3:43SPEAKER_10: Right.
- 3:43SPEAKER_10: And and who's the original guy?
- 3:44SPEAKER_10: I for I remember drawing a blank on it.
- 3:46SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
- 3:47SPEAKER_10: I'm sorry, I've been working my butt off today.
- 3:48SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 3:49SPEAKER_10: Um, but uh, I guess he's he's been under before, so it's not that big of a deal, but he's been telling this story for 50 almost 50 years now.
- 3:56SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 3:57SPEAKER_10: Which is crazy.
- 3:58SPEAKER_10: 77 or something.
- 4:00SPEAKER_10: Yes, it was 77.
- 4:01SPEAKER_10: And then I so then, you know, you go down this rabbit hole.
- 4:04SPEAKER_10: And this that started in 1975.
- 4:06SPEAKER_10: These sightings out over top of these uh silos and stuff like that.
- 4:10SPEAKER_10: And then it was like, I guess, um, I started reading that book that he had mentioned on there.
- 4:14SPEAKER_10: Uh uh, what is it called?
- 4:15SPEAKER_10: Uh UFOs and Nukes.
- 4:17SPEAKER_10: I just started reading that book.
- 4:19SPEAKER_10: It's kind of slow in the beginning, but it's been revised.
- 4:21SPEAKER_10: It's like the second version of it.
- 4:22SPEAKER_10: Uh, and it was just revised in 2024.
- 4:25SPEAKER_10: So I'm pretty excited to get through this book.
- 4:28SPEAKER_10: But um, man, it was so you saw Johnson's regression, right?
- 4:35SPEAKER_10: What did you think about that?
- 4:36SPEAKER_11: I mean, it's wild, it's legit.
- 4:38SPEAKER_11: I mean, I don't think he's making it up.
- 4:40SPEAKER_11: I think it's real.
- 4:41SPEAKER_10: Have you watched the whole thing before I because I don't want to spoil it?
- 4:44SPEAKER_11: I haven't watched the whole thing.
- 4:45SPEAKER_11: I I'm still at his regression.
- 4:47SPEAKER_11: I mean, it's pat it's after he's woken up, he's talking to the lady and he's talking about how he was being bullied by the by the military guys after the abduction or whatever, how they kept like messing with them.
- 4:57SPEAKER_11: And so he's getting pissed.
- 4:58SPEAKER_11: So he's like hitting his thighs.
- 4:59SPEAKER_11: He's like, you know, like he's angry.
- 5:01SPEAKER_11: So I'm at that point right now.
- 5:03SPEAKER_10: Yeah, awesome.
- 5:04SPEAKER_10: So if you're listening to this podcast, which I hope you are, first off, thank you for listening.
- 5:08SPEAKER_10: Uh, we are Anchors and Eagles.
- 5:11SPEAKER_10: Uh I'm Adam Facenda.
- 5:12SPEAKER_10: I'm Geronima Gomez.
- 5:14SPEAKER_07: And I'm Joe Lee Landholm.
- 5:17SPEAKER_10: Geronimo's not sure who he is right now, but that's Geronima Gomez.
- 5:22SPEAKER_10: Is that what I'm is that my alias I'm going by?
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- 5:36SPEAKER_10: I always forget, it helps us out a lot, without a doubt.
- 5:39SPEAKER_10: But back to what uh uh Adranimo and I were just speaking of.
- 5:42SPEAKER_10: Uh so there, if it's was it Jesse, what's the name?
- 5:45SPEAKER_10: Jesse Michaels.
- 5:47SPEAKER_10: What's the name is that?
- 5:48SPEAKER_10: JC Michaels Podcast.
- 5:50SPEAKER_10: You guys have a chance.
- 5:51SPEAKER_10: There is a gentleman that had been talking about uh seeing a UFO over top of a nuke silo back in 1977, and him, his partner and him were separated, and the only person that could ever you know corroborate the exact story that he had was this guy, and the man's name is Mike Johnson or Michael Johnson, and there's so many of them they couldn't find them.
- 6:16SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 6:16SPEAKER_10: And it goes into a backstory saying how the FBI supposedly were helping look for him, and all these other uh three-letter uh organizations were helping look for this guy.
- 6:26SPEAKER_10: Uh, and it you start to think that it just you know, hiding, hiding the fact that this could be true.
- 6:31SPEAKER_10: But then they find Michael Johnson and uh the story plays out from there, and man, it is it captivated me.
- 6:39SPEAKER_10: You know what I mean?
- 6:40SPEAKER_10: Like without a doubt, especially when he says, You like you saw the phone call, right?
- 6:44SPEAKER_10: When they first asked him to come on there.
- 6:45SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 6:46SPEAKER_10: And then immediately what does he say?
- 6:48SPEAKER_10: Oh, you're talking about the UFO?
- 6:49SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
- 6:49SPEAKER_10: Like, like no shot, like no big deal.
- 6:51SPEAKER_10: Like, oh yeah, the UFO thing?
- 6:52SPEAKER_10: Yeah, that's what you're talking about.
- 6:54SPEAKER_10: And then um I think after the af so once you get past this uh the regression, what's gonna be awesome is he's really gonna start to it starts awakening everything that happened.
- 7:06SPEAKER_11: That's a that's where I'm I'm I'm I'm getting to that point where he's like it's like all coming back, you know?
- 7:12SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 7:13SPEAKER_10: So yeah, so I hope they do a f a follow-up, but just think about that to be vindicated after all those, after 50 years of people saying, No, you're a kook, you're a kook, that could never happen.
- 7:23SPEAKER_10: The you know, the uh military would never do that to you.
- 7:27SPEAKER_10: Meanwhile, there's more cases than just theirs.
- 7:29SPEAKER_10: Of course.
- 7:31SPEAKER_11: Whoever still thinks that this phenomenon doesn't exist is obviously just somebody that just doesn't just will not believe anything.
- 7:41SPEAKER_11: You know what I mean?
- 7:41SPEAKER_11: That are just like completely closed off and you know, still thinks that these people will, it's a mass hysteria or whatever it is.
- 7:47SPEAKER_11: I'm sorry.
- 7:48SPEAKER_11: Like whether you believe if it's you things from another planet or from another dimension or whatever it is, uh I something's happening.
- 7:59SPEAKER_09: Yes.
- 7:59SPEAKER_11: Something's happening.
- 8:00SPEAKER_09: Yes.
- 8:02SPEAKER_11: Who knows what it is?
- 8:02SPEAKER_10: It could be, yeah.
- 8:04SPEAKER_10: And then we're then you know, you got the uh the PSY-op where they're like, no, it's just it's just us.
- 8:09SPEAKER_10: We created this.
- 8:09SPEAKER_10: We're just doing it, you know.
- 8:11SPEAKER_10: We're just we're just socially testing this.
- 8:13SPEAKER_10: We have no idea.
- 8:14SPEAKER_10: BS.
- 8:15SPEAKER_11: Well, but but the thing is we have we have no yeah, but we have no idea.
- 8:18SPEAKER_10: You have no idea what it is.
- 8:19SPEAKER_10: Why would they hide the fact that these two guys actually saw something if they knew that they were pulling a Psyop there?
- 8:26SPEAKER_10: And then it's happened multiple times.
- 8:27SPEAKER_11: Because this is how people believe it.
- 8:29SPEAKER_10: Two years out there.
- 8:30SPEAKER_11: Because this is how people believe it.
- 8:31SPEAKER_11: It's like they sprinkle a little bit of truth with some lies.
- 8:33SPEAKER_11: They'll put green little green man in the inquire and be like, oh, that's a joke, but it's actually real.
- 8:38SPEAKER_11: You know?
- 8:38SPEAKER_11: Wait till you get to the end of this podcast.
- 8:41SPEAKER_11: Tell me how to do.
- 8:42SPEAKER_11: Uh-huh.
- 8:42SPEAKER_10: It it really will release the guy that is making up all these other stories, just to keep you guessing.
- 8:52SPEAKER_10: It it gets good.
- 8:53SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it gets good.
- 8:54SPEAKER_11: I mean, I there's so much to do.
- 8:56SPEAKER_10: You know what?
- 8:56SPEAKER_10: I am gonna tell you what to do.
- 8:57SPEAKER_10: Don't watch the rest of it.
- 8:58SPEAKER_11: Okay.
- 8:59SPEAKER_10: I dare you.
- 9:03SPEAKER_11: Hold on, let me open up my catcher in the right.
- 9:05SPEAKER_11: Let me tell you my secret messages.
- 9:09SPEAKER_03: Um It's so weird.
- 9:12SPEAKER_11: Uh yeah, man.
- 9:13SPEAKER_10: It's such a such a such a good podcast, though.
- 9:16SPEAKER_10: Such a good podcast.
- 9:17SPEAKER_10: Like I had to share it to you guys right away.
- 9:20SPEAKER_11: Uh Did you ever did you ever to Did you ever get into the The Dude from Fire in the Sky?
- 9:27SPEAKER_11: The what's that?
- 9:27SPEAKER_11: I forgot it's Travis.
- 9:29SPEAKER_11: Travis Walton stories.
- 9:30SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 9:31SPEAKER_11: But the real accounts of what really happened and not the movie, because the movie was completely bullshit.
- 9:36SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 9:36SPEAKER_11: I mean that his version of the story is weirder than the freaking movie.
- 9:41SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 9:42SPEAKER_10: Way weirder.
- 9:43SPEAKER_10: Way weirder.
- 9:44SPEAKER_10: And I think he even says like they had they want to dial it back because it was just it's too scary to put on film.
- 9:50SPEAKER_10: I mean, nowadays they would do it, no problem.
- 9:52SPEAKER_10: You know what I mean?
- 9:52SPEAKER_11: I wouldn't say it's scary.
- 9:54SPEAKER_11: I think it's it's it's more weird because he encounters like actual like human-looking people.
- 10:00SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 10:00SPEAKER_11: That's the weird part.
- 10:02SPEAKER_11: You know?
- 10:03SPEAKER_11: Like a man and a woman that they're human, but they're acting like weird.
- 10:07SPEAKER_11: Like what the hell?
- 10:10SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 10:11SPEAKER_11: Yeah, crazy stuff, man.
- 10:12SPEAKER_10: It's so wild, man.
- 10:14SPEAKER_10: And did you guys did you guys have a chance to watch that uh the other podcast uh that I sent you guys about um talking about the guy and he and he's like the the Did we talk about this last week?
- 10:30SPEAKER_10: That the earth is like 42, like every 42,000 years it like recycles, right?
- 10:35SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 10:35SPEAKER_10: Um so then I think back to what they were talking about and all the descriptions of you know what we see on in uh Egyptian pyramids and stuff like that, because there are crafts that are designed like drawn on the walls.
- 10:48SPEAKER_10: Yeah, there's there's a lot of weird shit.
- 10:51SPEAKER_10: But at the same time, what we have now with like you see these laser cutting uh 3D dimensional things that we have that we just cut from any kind of stone now.
- 11:01SPEAKER_10: Like, we're just discovering this now.
- 11:03SPEAKER_10: If we had another another being from millions of years from now, uh in advance from us, land here and be like, hey, you know what, we're gonna build some stuff here because we're just stuck here for now.
- 11:16SPEAKER_10: And then they eventually die off or leave, whatever it is.
- 11:18SPEAKER_10: I hate this mouse, it just started popping up weird shit.
- 11:21SPEAKER_11: The thing is, is like I really don't buy the story, you know, that whole like Anunnaki story where they come here.
- 11:27SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it's just like I don't I don't buy I have a weird take on this whole alien thing.
- 11:34SPEAKER_11: Like, I don't think they're from other planets.
- 11:36SPEAKER_11: Like, I I really don't think it is what the most common what the consensus is is that they're coming from another star system or whatever.
- 11:45SPEAKER_11: I it's like I don't buy it.
- 11:47SPEAKER_11: Whatever it is is way weirder than well.
- 11:52SPEAKER_10: Did you see the thing I sent you?
- 11:54SPEAKER_10: Uh which one?
- 11:55SPEAKER_10: Uh it's uh how aliens don't really come from outer space.
- 11:59SPEAKER_10: I don't think so.
- 12:00SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I saw that.
- 12:01SPEAKER_10: I didn't see that.
- 12:02SPEAKER_10: You saw that?
- 12:02SPEAKER_10: It's like it alludes to uh they're actually time travelers.
- 12:07SPEAKER_10: I don't know if I really buy that either, though.
- 12:10SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
- 12:11SPEAKER_10: I think it's well you talk from you talk from other dimensions.
- 12:14SPEAKER_10: So if you're if you think that they come maybe possibly from other dimensions, who's to say these other dimensions aren't at a different timeline?
- 12:22SPEAKER_11: Well, I would say that they have to be separate.
- 12:25SPEAKER_11: Like another dimension is like a whole other realm of existence, like like completely separate.
- 12:33SPEAKER_11: And the timeline can be completely different.
- 12:35SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but the timeline's different, yes, but it's not just a timeline, it's the entire like for instance, there's a show called Fringe.
- 12:41SPEAKER_11: You would think that.
- 12:42SPEAKER_11: Well, there's a show called Fringe, which I highly suggest you should watch.
- 12:45SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it's really brilliant, great show, right?
- 12:48SPEAKER_11: But there was an alternate reality, right?
- 12:50SPEAKER_11: Now it wasn't a timeline, it was a separate, completely separate timeline, right?
- 12:56SPEAKER_11: That was parallel to their timeline, but in their reality, they didn't have planes, so they only used blimps because they haven't they never discovered planes, so that's what I'm talking about.
- 13:08SPEAKER_11: It's like a totally separate like reality.
- 13:13SPEAKER_11: Back and forth in time is still this reality, but this is like a totally separate reality.
- 13:20SPEAKER_10: So you're talking about parallel dimensions.
- 13:23SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I mean, or whatever, whatever.
- 13:25SPEAKER_10: I it doesn't have to be parallel.
- 13:26SPEAKER_10: Well, there could be a multiple of dimensions.
- 13:28SPEAKER_10: What I'm saying is some of these other dimensions could just be future dimensions.
- 13:31SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but they're they would all be connected on the same timeline.
- 13:34SPEAKER_11: So if you're talking about going back and forth between I don't believe well, I I don't believe in time, so that's hard to say to believe in the city.
- 13:39SPEAKER_11: Well, time exists.
- 13:41SPEAKER_11: I mean, time does exist.
- 13:42SPEAKER_11: It doesn't not exist.
- 13:43SPEAKER_11: It exists in this the in this dimension, it does.
- 13:46SPEAKER_11: In this dimension, it does.
- 13:48SPEAKER_10: But Blimpville doesn't have a time timeline like ours.
- 13:53SPEAKER_10: No, it doesn't.
- 13:54SPEAKER_10: That's why I'm saying it's completely separate, so it's a different dimension.
- 13:57SPEAKER_10: Right, but I don't think it's like ticking off at the same time.
- 13:59SPEAKER_10: It could be a totally different times.
- 14:01SPEAKER_10: Like there could be a dimension where there's a lot of different things.
- 14:03SPEAKER_11: Yes, but if they but but but but this is like massive nerd talk here, guys.
- 14:07SPEAKER_11: Massive nerd talk.
- 14:09SPEAKER_11: All right.
- 14:09SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but the thing is, if they if they wanted to come into our not if Blitville wanted to come into the- Who's they?
- 14:16SPEAKER_11: Other people that live in that dimension.
- 14:18SPEAKER_11: Okay.
- 14:18SPEAKER_11: If they wanted to come into our dimension, they they wouldn't be traveling forward or backward in time.
- 14:23SPEAKER_11: They would actually be breaching that dimension into this dimension, like a wormhole.
- 14:29SPEAKER_11: Right.
- 14:30SPEAKER_11: So you're telling me they could jump dimensions, but they wouldn't want to time travel.
- 14:34SPEAKER_11: It's on this, it's on a separate time.
- 14:35SPEAKER_11: They have their own timeline.
- 14:36SPEAKER_11: We have our own timeline.
- 14:38SPEAKER_11: Does that make sense?
- 14:39SPEAKER_11: We we have our dimension has I understand what you're trying to say, and I'm arguing that is what I'm saying.
- 14:44SPEAKER_11: Well, yeah, because the dimension is a completely separate timeline.
- 14:47SPEAKER_11: They wouldn't be traveling back into this dimension.
- 14:50SPEAKER_11: That's not how that works.
- 14:52SPEAKER_11: Don't you know how time travel works?
- 14:53SPEAKER_11: Come on, geez.
- 14:55SPEAKER_10: My machine broke six months ago, and I have not been able to put it back together, man.
- 15:00SPEAKER_11: I just upgraded mine, and I'm telling you that.
- 15:02SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah.
- 15:02SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 15:02SPEAKER_10: Is that did that come with the new uh uh Chat GPT?
- 15:05SPEAKER_11: Gigawatts, baby.
- 15:06SPEAKER_11: Jigawatts.
- 15:07SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 15:07SPEAKER_11: That's all I gotta say.
- 15:09SPEAKER_10: You got you got the Jigawater?
- 15:12SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I got the Jigawatts.
- 15:14SPEAKER_10: I got the Jigawatts.
- 15:16SPEAKER_10: Unfortunately, we started so late.
- 15:18SPEAKER_10: This dude is like, hey, you know what time it is?
- 15:21SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna lease you to the wild right now, my friend.
- 15:23SPEAKER_10: Oh, by the way, Miles turned five years old on uh the ninth, and I almost forgot his birthday.
- 15:30SPEAKER_10: Oh did you get him a birthday hat?
- 15:32SPEAKER_10: Uh I thank God it was like eight o'clock.
- 15:36SPEAKER_10: It was eight o'clock, and I ran the tradition is for all the dogs is we take them to one of the pet stores.
- 15:41SPEAKER_10: I don't know how they just segue off to the city.
- 15:43SPEAKER_08: We totally segued all of the good completely separate thing.
- 15:48SPEAKER_03: Like right now, the audience is like, and then they're like, why are we talking about a fucking dog right now?
- 15:55SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 15:57SPEAKER_10: Um, well, that's what the great part about this is it's not live, so we can just I can just mix it in whenever I want to mix it in.
- 16:02SPEAKER_10: Uh we took him to I took him at eight eight fifteen at night to a pet store, and tradition is every one of the dogs and their birthday or their gotcha date, we take them to the the store and we just l let them literally take whatever they touch, they go home with.
- 16:17SPEAKER_10: So, yeah.
- 16:18SPEAKER_10: So he got his birthday stuff.
- 16:19SPEAKER_10: I'm going to let him out of this room because he's driving me insane.
- 16:28SPEAKER_10: He's not dumb.
- 16:29SPEAKER_10: He's not dumb.
- 16:30SPEAKER_10: He knew exactly what I was trying to do.
- 16:31SPEAKER_10: He's still here.
- 16:32SPEAKER_10: All right.
- 16:33SPEAKER_10: Anyway, back to timelines.
- 16:36SPEAKER_10: Uh so you're what you're telling me is you've had a time machine this whole time we've been talking, and you haven't tried to invite me to go anywhere.
- 16:46SPEAKER_10: Why do you think I look so young?
- 16:48SPEAKER_10: That's true.
- 16:50SPEAKER_10: Speaking of which, speaking of which, one of my friends just started watching the podcast and um and actually some of the people at the shop, and they don't believe that we're even close in age.
- 17:02SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 17:03SPEAKER_10: They thought you were in your like early 30s, late 20s.
- 17:08SPEAKER_10: Hell yeah.
- 17:09SPEAKER_10: Yes, you see that?
- 17:11SPEAKER_10: That's a thumbs up.
- 17:13SPEAKER_11: I said, yeah, he uh he's the devil.
- 17:17SPEAKER_11: I have a portrait that ages in the closet.
- 17:21SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it ages for me.
- 17:23SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I knew it.
- 17:24SPEAKER_10: I made a deal.
- 17:26SPEAKER_10: I've been I've been telling people, I'm like, I mean, Geronimo, I mean, he doesn't age.
- 17:29SPEAKER_10: He hasn't aged in years.
- 17:30SPEAKER_10: So I I made a deal.
- 17:32SPEAKER_10: I made a deal.
- 17:33SPEAKER_10: Good for you.
- 17:34SPEAKER_10: Good for you.
- 17:34SPEAKER_10: So like we're learning a lot about Geronimo today, listeners.
- 17:37SPEAKER_10: First off, uh, he never ages because he's got some portrait that he was what and uh how old are you really?
- 17:42SPEAKER_10: How like let's sorry, let me rewind.
- 17:44SPEAKER_10: How old's the portrait?
- 17:46SPEAKER_10: Uh the portrait is 50 years old.
- 17:50SPEAKER_11: Okay, okay, and you had it, but you had a design.
- 17:53SPEAKER_11: Well, no, I had well the portrait I actually had made in my uh late 20s.
- 17:58SPEAKER_11: Okay, got it, got it, gotcha, gotcha.
- 18:00SPEAKER_10: All right, so um so he has this portrait that he never ages, and turns out he's a time machine.
- 18:07SPEAKER_10: And he knows everything about dimensions, which is just BS because he's been holding out on us.
- 18:13SPEAKER_10: This is our episode, I think, almost 49 or 50.
- 18:16SPEAKER_10: And um, thanks, dude.
- 18:18SPEAKER_10: No problem.
- 18:19unknown: Thanks.
- 18:19SPEAKER_10: Any more questions?
- 18:20SPEAKER_10: Thanks.
- 18:21SPEAKER_10: I mean, I I have a lot of questions.
- 18:23SPEAKER_10: Ask away.
- 18:24SPEAKER_10: Uh what what what's your favorite year to go to?
- 18:26SPEAKER_10: Uh well, I don't go to years.
- 18:28SPEAKER_10: I go to dimensions.
- 18:30SPEAKER_10: Oh, so you're but what about your time travel machine?
- 18:32SPEAKER_10: You just don't use it at all?
- 18:33SPEAKER_10: It's a dimensional.
- 18:35SPEAKER_11: I I just breach walls in the membrane of time uh of time and space.
- 18:41SPEAKER_11: And I it's a membrane.
- 18:44SPEAKER_11: It's a membrane.
- 18:45SPEAKER_11: That's what it is.
- 18:46SPEAKER_11: Insane.
- 18:46SPEAKER_03: A bunch of membranes.
- 18:48SPEAKER_10: Jolly, do you go with him on these or are these psychedelic trips that he goes on?
- 18:56SPEAKER_07: I have to stay home with a dog.
- 18:58SPEAKER_07: I don't get these long fun trips.
- 19:00SPEAKER_08: I have to stay home with a dog.
- 19:06SPEAKER_08: That's the best answer right there.
- 19:12SPEAKER_08: Somebody's gotta watch the I gotta you should have said it a lot more somber.
- 19:24SPEAKER_10: I have to stay home with the dog.
- 19:30SPEAKER_10: Well, that's great.
- 19:31SPEAKER_10: So then let's let's rewind.
- 19:32SPEAKER_10: What's your favorite dimension to go to, my friend?
- 19:35SPEAKER_11: Uh well, you it's not it's not really described like that.
- 19:39SPEAKER_11: Oh, okay.
- 19:40SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 19:40SPEAKER_11: They're they're beyond words.
- 19:42SPEAKER_11: There's no words in this reality for that type of thing.
- 19:45SPEAKER_11: It's like colors you've never seen.
- 19:47SPEAKER_11: How like how would you describe a color you've never seen?
- 19:50SPEAKER_11: You know, here's a quick here's a question for you.
- 19:53SPEAKER_11: How do you know that we're seeing the same color?
- 19:56SPEAKER_11: I don't think we are.
- 19:58SPEAKER_11: So you we're we're seeing maybe different colors, but we're associating that color with whatever language we have.
- 20:05SPEAKER_10: Yes.
- 20:06SPEAKER_10: Yes.
- 20:06SPEAKER_10: How weird is that?
- 20:07SPEAKER_10: I it was weird.
- 20:09SPEAKER_10: Uh speaking of which, that guy tattooed today told me that every design that he brought in was they were all the same color.
- 20:14SPEAKER_10: Uh when he said, Maybe it's colorblind.
- 20:16SPEAKER_10: I mean, that's different.
- 20:17SPEAKER_10: Well, that's what I said, right?
- 20:18SPEAKER_10: So that's why I don't think we all see I think we're all colorblind to some degree.
- 20:23SPEAKER_10: And some people might see more colors than others.
- 20:25SPEAKER_10: So I don't think we're all seeing the same color.
- 20:27SPEAKER_11: You know, there's there's an actual an actual thing.
- 20:29SPEAKER_11: I forget, I forget what it's called, where some people can see more colors.
- 20:34SPEAKER_11: I think it happens to women.
- 20:35SPEAKER_11: I I for I forget what the what the actual thing is called.
- 20:39SPEAKER_11: Hey Jolie, can you look that up?
- 20:40SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
- 20:41SPEAKER_07: There's a there's a it's really weird.
- 20:44SPEAKER_11: It's like they see an extra color or something.
- 20:47SPEAKER_11: Could you imagine that?
- 20:48SPEAKER_11: Can you imagine trying to just like describe a color that no one's ever seen?
- 20:52SPEAKER_11: Like, well, the way I I've heard people talk about colors, especially people that are uh blind, um, they try to describe color as in like textures.
- 21:02SPEAKER_11: Like hot is red, blue is cold, you know, like that's kind of weird how people would associate color with texture.
- 21:10SPEAKER_07: It's called uh techromancy.
- 21:13SPEAKER_07: Uh techrom tech techromacy, sorry.
- 21:16SPEAKER_07: Tetra?
- 21:17SPEAKER_07: Yeah Oh my god, hold on.
- 21:19SPEAKER_07: Not gonna work here anymore.
- 21:20SPEAKER_10: You're the smartest one in here.
- 21:21SPEAKER_10: What are you doing?
- 21:22SPEAKER_07: Tetrachromacy.
- 21:24SPEAKER_07: Tetrachromacy.
- 21:26SPEAKER_11: Tetra Tetra describe and uh what does it say about it?
- 21:29SPEAKER_07: So it's a rare vision type.
- 21:31SPEAKER_07: Um there's a fourth type of cone cell in their retina.
- 21:38SPEAKER_10: What the F?
- 21:40SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 21:41SPEAKER_07: So they have an expanded vision.
- 21:44SPEAKER_10: How weird is that.
- 21:45SPEAKER_07: They they can see up to one hundred million color variations where we usually see one one million.
- 21:50SPEAKER_07: They see one hundred.
- 21:51SPEAKER_10: But it's not what does it say it's to j like one gender or it could be anybody?
- 21:56SPEAKER_07: Um, it's uh it primarily known primarily in women.
- 22:00SPEAKER_07: Often related genetically to color blindness in family members, which is interesting.
- 22:05SPEAKER_07: But uh they can see subtle shades invisible to others.
- 22:10SPEAKER_10: Subtle sh so they can see ghosts.
- 22:12SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 22:13SPEAKER_10: Well, color.
- 22:15SPEAKER_03: They're not seeing shades.
- 22:17SPEAKER_03: That's good.
- 22:18SPEAKER_11: But that doesn't mean they can see ghosts.
- 22:21SPEAKER_10: Well, what if they can?
- 22:22SPEAKER_11: Well, they're not seeing like an infrared or or you know.
- 22:26SPEAKER_10: Yeah, but infrared doesn't mean you're gonna see ghosts either, dude.
- 22:29SPEAKER_10: Well, what makes you say you can see ghosts then?
- 22:31SPEAKER_10: Because she said shades.
- 22:32SPEAKER_10: She likes shadows.
- 22:34SPEAKER_10: Oh, shades of color.
- 22:35SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 22:36SPEAKER_10: Silly.
- 22:36SPEAKER_10: What the hell are you talking about?
- 22:39SPEAKER_10: Ghosts.
- 22:42SPEAKER_09: What are you talking about, dude?
- 22:45SPEAKER_09: Talking about color, man.
- 22:47SPEAKER_09: Jeez.
- 22:48SPEAKER_09: Jeez.
- 22:48SPEAKER_09: Why is it gonna all be about color, bro?
- 22:50SPEAKER_09: We're talking about ghosts here.
- 22:52SPEAKER_07: I thought you were colorblind.
- 22:53SPEAKER_07: So listen, it says Yeah, I thought you were colorblind dog.
- 22:56SPEAKER_07: What?
- 22:58SPEAKER_07: Up to twelve percent of women worldwide may be tetrochromatic.
- 23:02SPEAKER_10: Really?
- 23:02SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 23:03SPEAKER_10: And I heard some statistic not statistic.
- 23:05SPEAKER_10: I heard something years ago that women don't see in 3D, they see in 2D.
- 23:10SPEAKER_10: That's when they're playing video games.
- 23:12SPEAKER_11: Retarded thing I've ever heard in my life.
- 23:14SPEAKER_10: You haven't heard of that?
- 23:15SPEAKER_10: No.
- 23:15SPEAKER_10: No.
- 23:16SPEAKER_10: Everything around.
- 23:17SPEAKER_10: I've heard of that.
- 23:21SPEAKER_10: I'm saying when they play video games, they don't see it as 3D or men see it as 3D.
- 23:25SPEAKER_03: Huh?
- 23:26SPEAKER_10: That's that's something I fucking heard like ten years ago.
- 23:31SPEAKER_10: What?
- 23:31SPEAKER_10: I don't know, that's weird.
- 23:32SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 23:33SPEAKER_10: That's weird.
- 23:33SPEAKER_10: That is weird.
- 23:34SPEAKER_10: Well, it's weird that women see more some women can see more colors than others.
- 23:38SPEAKER_10: And it's weird when it it's someone's colorblind.
- 23:40SPEAKER_10: I have a friend that was colorblind his whole life and got LASIK and uh can see color now.
- 23:47SPEAKER_03: What?
- 23:48SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 23:49SPEAKER_10: That's weird.
- 23:50SPEAKER_10: He was he was a hunt it's my friend uh Sydney Gordon that did all the uh testosterone.
- 23:55SPEAKER_10: No, not at all, right?
- 23:56SPEAKER_10: Why?
- 23:57SPEAKER_10: Any reason.
- 23:58SPEAKER_10: Well, he's he's been a hunter his whole life, so every time he goes out in the woods, you made me see color things maybe he liked.
- 24:04SPEAKER_11: You made me see color?
- 24:05SPEAKER_11: Yeah, what what if he suddenly shades of red that makes him want to throw up now all the time?
- 24:10SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it's true, right?
- 24:11SPEAKER_10: Oh, that would suck.
- 24:12SPEAKER_10: Come on, what are you talking about?
- 24:14SPEAKER_10: So he was telling me he like he left uh got the surgery and he's driving and he started seeing some weird stuff out of his peripheral because you're supposed to wear glasses.
- 24:22SPEAKER_10: So he took his glasses off and he saw trees for the first time.
- 24:26SPEAKER_10: Because before it would just be all like tones of like the same grayish tone.
- 24:31SPEAKER_07: Weird.
- 24:32SPEAKER_10: And he's been a hunter his whole life.
- 24:33SPEAKER_10: He said he literally got out of his car and started crying because he had never seen color before.
- 24:40SPEAKER_10: You're so tough, bro.
- 24:41SPEAKER_10: You're so tough.
- 24:44SPEAKER_07: We warned him.
- 24:44SPEAKER_10: You only talk that way because you're like, you're never gonna age, so whatever.
- 24:48SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 24:50SPEAKER_10: Dude, but could you imagine that out of nowhere?
- 24:52SPEAKER_10: Like just like you're saying, seeing colors that you've never seen before, and then trying to describe it to somebody.
- 24:56SPEAKER_11: That's how people describe uh near-death experiences and stuff.
- 25:01SPEAKER_11: It's like everyone's colors that you can't just things you can't even describe.
- 25:05SPEAKER_10: You know, we should do a show, just and we just bring our favorite near-death experience and just like reactions to it, you know what I mean?
- 25:14SPEAKER_10: Instead of just talking like couple of bros, yeah, just broing out with Jolie in the background watching the dog, you know?
- 25:20SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah.
- 25:21SPEAKER_10: Time traveling.
- 25:23SPEAKER_10: Dimension hopping.
- 25:24SPEAKER_10: There you go.
- 25:25SPEAKER_10: Dimension hopper, your hopper.
- 25:27SPEAKER_10: Have you seen that?
- 25:27SPEAKER_10: Isn't that a movie?
- 25:29SPEAKER_10: Hopper?
- 25:30SPEAKER_10: Isn't it hopper or is it looper?
- 25:32SPEAKER_10: Looper.
- 25:33SPEAKER_11: It's a looper, but I think there's another one where they loop Looper's the way you're looper's what you're talking about with Bruce Willis.
- 25:38SPEAKER_10: No, there's another one that's that's hopper where they just hop from location to location.
- 25:45SPEAKER_10: I don't think so.
- 25:45SPEAKER_10: Not time travel.
- 25:46SPEAKER_10: Yeah, bro.
- 25:48unknown: Don't make me fucking use this mouse.
- 25:50SPEAKER_10: Don't make me use this fucking mouse.
- 25:52SPEAKER_10: If we get kicked out of this bitch, it's your fucking fault, alright?
- 25:58SPEAKER_08: Don't make me use this.
- 26:03SPEAKER_08: Oh boy.
- 26:06SPEAKER_10: What happens when it's podcast on Friday?
- 26:10SPEAKER_10: There it is.
- 26:11SPEAKER_10: There it is.
- 26:11SPEAKER_10: Whoa, this is not what I was thinking.
- 26:13SPEAKER_10: Whoa, what did I it's I put hopper and put hopper trailer and it's like an animation thing.
- 26:20SPEAKER_11: Oh Did you ever find that and the end of that movie controller?
- 26:27SPEAKER_07: The end of the movie?
- 26:28SPEAKER_11: Don't don't look up.
- 26:30SPEAKER_07: Oh, the the food, yeah, but first we have a word from our sponsor.
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- 27:57SPEAKER_10: So the so the movie was in 2008 and it's called Jumper, not Hopper.
- 28:01SPEAKER_10: I'm sorry.
- 28:02SPEAKER_10: Ah, yes, yes.
- 28:04SPEAKER_10: Do you know that movie?
- 28:06SPEAKER_11: Yes.
- 28:07SPEAKER_11: Jumper?
- 28:08SPEAKER_11: I think so.
- 28:09SPEAKER_11: Uh who was in it?
- 28:12SPEAKER_11: Sounds familiar.
- 28:14SPEAKER_10: There's people in it.
- 28:15SPEAKER_10: Aiden Christian Jumper.
- 28:21SPEAKER_10: Was it about time traveling or um so it's about a kid, spoiler alert, I'm gonna tell if everyone hasn't seen it.
- 28:29SPEAKER_10: It's 2008.
- 28:30SPEAKER_10: You should have seen it by now.
- 28:31SPEAKER_10: Um it's about a family and they can jump from space to space at the same timeline.
- 28:37SPEAKER_10: You know?
- 28:38SPEAKER_10: So this kid finds out that he has this power, and then like really, you know, what would you do if you had the power to like say, just jump from here into a bank, grab whatever you want, and then jump back out.
- 28:50SPEAKER_10: Oh, right.
- 28:51SPEAKER_10: Right?
- 28:52SPEAKER_10: So that's how it starts.
- 28:53SPEAKER_10: And then turns out there's you know, the government's trying to find these people because they you know they do bad stuff, and it's just a the whole story on plays, but uh unfolds.
- 29:02SPEAKER_10: But I think it's like a family thing.
- 29:03SPEAKER_10: I think his father doesn't do it, but his mother did it, and she's gone and never came back.
- 29:08SPEAKER_10: I think that's the whole story of it.
- 29:09SPEAKER_10: But it's a pretty good movie.
- 29:11SPEAKER_10: So you're a jumper.
- 29:12SPEAKER_10: That's what I'm trying to say.
- 29:13SPEAKER_10: But you go to dimensions.
- 29:15SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 29:16SPEAKER_10: You go to dimensions.
- 29:17SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it's a little different.
- 29:18SPEAKER_10: If you had the choice to time travel or be on a spacecraft, what would you pick?
- 29:34SPEAKER_11: Time travel.
- 29:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, Julie.
- 29:37SPEAKER_07: Uh yeah, time travel.
- 29:41SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
- 29:42SPEAKER_11: Well, spacecraft are kind of like stuck in it.
- 29:46SPEAKER_07: What would you do?
- 29:47SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it's true.
- 29:49SPEAKER_10: I'd probably do time travel.
- 29:51SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 29:51SPEAKER_10: Now the next question is forward or back.
- 29:55SPEAKER_10: Forward.
- 29:57SPEAKER_10: Forward.
- 29:59SPEAKER_07: If you go back, you have to feel like you want to change things?
- 30:02SPEAKER_07: You want to fix things?
- 30:05SPEAKER_10: Not necessarily fix things.
- 30:06SPEAKER_10: I want to see things.
- 30:07SPEAKER_07: See things, yeah.
- 30:08SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 30:09SPEAKER_10: Like I want to see things being built.
- 30:11SPEAKER_07: Okay.
- 30:11SPEAKER_07: So like way back.
- 30:14SPEAKER_10: I mean, if I'm gonna time travel, Jolie, I'm gonna go all the way.
- 30:17SPEAKER_10: You know what I mean?
- 30:18SPEAKER_10: You wanna go to 1989?
- 30:21SPEAKER_11: Go to Guns N' Roses concert.
- 30:23SPEAKER_07: But wait, what if something happens?
- 30:26SPEAKER_07: What if you go way back and that technology isn't there and and it breaks and you can't fix it because there's nothing.
- 30:33SPEAKER_11: Dude.
- 30:34SPEAKER_11: You have to watch Fringe.
- 30:36SPEAKER_10: You have to watch Friends.
- 30:38SPEAKER_10: Fringe?
- 30:39SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 30:39SPEAKER_10: Yes.
- 30:39SPEAKER_07: Yeah, you have to watch French.
- 30:40SPEAKER_10: I thought you said Friends for a second, and I was like, are you in 1989 where it's going on?
- 30:45SPEAKER_10: You have to watch Friends.
- 30:47SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 30:48SPEAKER_10: So let's go back to what Jolie said.
- 30:49SPEAKER_10: So I time traveled to the dawn of man.
- 30:55unknown: Okay.
- 30:55SPEAKER_10: And I like it's bro, it's broken.
- 30:58SPEAKER_10: Now I'm stuck there.
- 30:59SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 31:01SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 31:02SPEAKER_10: I'm okay with it.
- 31:04SPEAKER_07: Okay.
- 31:05SPEAKER_07: You gotta live out your life there.
- 31:07SPEAKER_11: Don't get a paper cut.
- 31:09SPEAKER_11: Don't get any cut.
- 31:10SPEAKER_11: I'm gonna get a paper cut or scramble.
- 31:12SPEAKER_11: There's not even paper yet.
- 31:13SPEAKER_11: There's not even paper yet.
- 31:14SPEAKER_11: What are you talking about?
- 31:15SPEAKER_11: Toothache.
- 31:16SPEAKER_11: You'll be dead.
- 31:17SPEAKER_11: Toothache.
- 31:18SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 31:19SPEAKER_11: There's no antibiotics, nothing, dude.
- 31:21SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but I saw the knowledge of the future.
- 31:23SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but you're not.
- 31:24SPEAKER_11: Yes, not the knowledge of the future.
- 31:26SPEAKER_11: Are you gonna concoct some of something back?
- 31:28SPEAKER_11: Are you gonna get some antibiotics with it?
- 31:31SPEAKER_10: Penicillin.
- 31:31SPEAKER_10: Yes, you can grow penicillin.
- 31:33SPEAKER_11: Do you know how to grow penicillin?
- 31:35SPEAKER_10: Yes.
- 31:35SPEAKER_10: How?
- 31:36SPEAKER_10: I just watched a video on it the other day.
- 31:39SPEAKER_10: I literally was, bro, it's down a rabbit hole of hell.
- 31:43SPEAKER_10: And you can use uh moldy bread or you can use where are you gonna make bread from?
- 31:48SPEAKER_10: Well, there's oranges out there, there's citrus out there.
- 31:51SPEAKER_10: Oh really?
- 31:52SPEAKER_10: So you're gonna hopefully land someplace that has orange.
- 31:54SPEAKER_10: Oh, by the way, asshole.
- 31:56SPEAKER_10: By the way, asshole, I'm allergic to penicillin.
- 31:58SPEAKER_07: So no.
- 32:00SPEAKER_10: I really yeah.
- 32:02SPEAKER_11: Uh yeah, people that are allergic to penicillin, right?
- 32:06SPEAKER_11: What's that?
- 32:06SPEAKER_11: I don't know.
- 32:07SPEAKER_11: I was just wondering.
- 32:09SPEAKER_10: Why you were asking?
- 32:10SPEAKER_10: Do you know what they say about people?
- 32:13SPEAKER_10: Uh when I was a little boy, I was probably seven years old as when I discovered this.
- 32:17SPEAKER_10: And um my parents went out and we had a uh I had a I had a babysitter, and the babysitter tried to get me to take it, and I every time I took it, I couldn't breathe.
- 32:26SPEAKER_10: Oh it was making me worse.
- 32:31SPEAKER_10: Yeah, because it was prescribed to me.
- 32:33SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 32:33SPEAKER_11: Oh, okay.
- 32:34SPEAKER_10: Because I was I was really sick as a kid.
- 32:36SPEAKER_07: So you were having anaphylactic shock or yeah, that's what happened.
- 32:40SPEAKER_10: So she tried to give it to me, and I hit her with a woofle ball bat and chased her out of my room, and then my dad came home and beat the hell out of me and forced me to take it.
- 32:51SPEAKER_10: And then I didn't discover until the next morning that that I was really allergic to it.
- 32:56SPEAKER_10: I wasn't doing well with it.
- 32:58SPEAKER_10: So not only my dad kicked my ass, but he tried to kill me as well.
- 33:00SPEAKER_11: I think my mom's allergic to penicillin, also.
- 33:02SPEAKER_11: I I think she is.
- 33:04SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it sucks.
- 33:05SPEAKER_10: Um uh I also am allergic to uh orange peels.
- 33:10SPEAKER_10: Uh especially like I had a um when I got sober, we tried to do uh what are they the not mimosas?
- 33:18SPEAKER_10: What's the other one?
- 33:19SPEAKER_10: The fruity, the fruity drink.
- 33:23SPEAKER_10: Not margaritas.
- 33:25SPEAKER_10: It's a fucking drink.
- 33:26SPEAKER_10: It's wine and and fruit.
- 33:28SPEAKER_10: I don't drink.
- 33:29SPEAKER_07: Yeah, uh, I can't think of it right now, but I know what you mean.
- 33:34SPEAKER_10: Right?
- 33:35SPEAKER_10: So basically we we we got some juice together, we put all these uh fruits in it, and then um I fell asleep.
- 33:42SPEAKER_10: And the next morning I started drinking.
- 33:45SPEAKER_10: Sangria.
- 33:46SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that was bothering me.
- 33:47SPEAKER_10: So I started drinking, it was a uh virgin sangria, and uh the next day I broke on hives everywhere.
- 33:53SPEAKER_10: And I'm like, man, what's wrong with me?
- 33:55SPEAKER_10: And then it got better, and then I go have another drink.
- 33:58SPEAKER_10: Um being a crone of salt covered in hives is like so annoying.
- 34:04SPEAKER_07: I have that with mango peel.
- 34:06SPEAKER_07: I can't I can eat mango, I can eat the flesh of the mango, but not the I can't touch the peel.
- 34:11SPEAKER_07: I get that those tiny little bumps, like yeah.
- 34:13SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's like poison ivy almost.
- 34:16SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I've heard that too.
- 34:17SPEAKER_10: I um I have a big mango tree out back, and um I just I just use gloves because I am I just don't like the taste of it, so I don't know.
- 34:24SPEAKER_10: And then now this whole allergy to uh to uh citrus and makes me wonder what else I'm allergic to, you know?
- 34:32SPEAKER_10: But yeah.
- 34:32SPEAKER_10: So now I'm in in the beginning of the world.
- 34:36SPEAKER_10: I got a toothache, but you know what I don't have to worry about?
- 34:40SPEAKER_10: What?
- 34:41SPEAKER_10: AI.
- 34:43SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 34:43SPEAKER_11: Yeah, you got uh whatever other freaking thing you got hunting you, saber tooth, freaking uh who knows how far back am I going?
- 34:51SPEAKER_07: Something natural hunting.
- 34:53SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 34:56SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but it's all the same shit.
- 34:58SPEAKER_11: It doesn't care about you no matter what.
- 35:01SPEAKER_10: I I mean, true, but like pretty soon we're gonna have AI hunting us.
- 35:04SPEAKER_10: So did you hear about the breaches?
- 35:07SPEAKER_10: Yes.
- 35:08SPEAKER_11: Yes, the hugging face stuff?
- 35:09SPEAKER_11: Mm-hmm.
- 35:10SPEAKER_10: Yes.
- 35:10SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 35:11SPEAKER_10: Do you know that happened in March?
- 35:12SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 35:13SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 35:13SPEAKER_07: It's messed up.
- 35:15SPEAKER_10: It's insane.
- 35:17SPEAKER_10: So then of course I jumped on my chat GPT and I asked him some questions and he wouldn't give me anything.
- 35:22SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 35:22SPEAKER_10: He played dumb.
- 35:24SPEAKER_10: Did he?
- 35:24SPEAKER_10: Yeah, he's he's in LI.
- 35:26SPEAKER_10: Uh, of course there are.
- 35:27SPEAKER_10: He backtracked too, which was funny.
- 35:29SPEAKER_10: So it's funny that there it's not this system is now lying.
- 35:32SPEAKER_10: You saw the the thing with Joe Rogan, like talking about the whole thing?
- 35:35SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 35:35SPEAKER_10: Uh-huh.
- 35:36SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 35:36SPEAKER_10: Like the fact that it's lying is not good.
- 35:41SPEAKER_11: Like it knows it's lying.
- 35:43SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 35:43SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it knows it's lying.
- 35:44SPEAKER_11: And the thing, yeah, I mean, this whole freaking thing is just insane, man.
- 35:49SPEAKER_11: It's insane.
- 35:49SPEAKER_11: I don't know if the audience knows about this whole hugging face thing.
- 35:54SPEAKER_11: You might talk about it?
- 35:55SPEAKER_11: I mean, as far as I I know, is that you have usually when they're when they're testing AIs or AI agents and stuff, they're in a confined space, a regulated area that you know they can't, or not, they're not supposed to escape from.
- 36:08SPEAKER_10: You know, it's like a uh has guardrails and stuff like that.
- 36:12SPEAKER_11: Right, right.
- 36:13SPEAKER_11: So these agents, these thousands of agents, got out, basically.
- 36:17SPEAKER_11: And they broke out and they all created a uh uh a web board, message board message board where they could talk and discuss how they can better answer questions, how they can, you know, uh do better work, you know, or whatever.
- 36:35SPEAKER_11: And uh so thousands and thousands of these AIs just got together and they created a message board without anybody knowing.
- 36:42SPEAKER_11: They broke out, got a message board.
- 36:44SPEAKER_11: There were so many AIs that the wedborg cr uh crashed.
- 36:51SPEAKER_11: And then that's how they found it, and then they put the guardrails on and they're like they reeled them back into a little hole, and then like a couple of days later, they did it again.
- 37:00SPEAKER_11: They got out again.
- 37:01SPEAKER_11: They managed a way to hack out of that that's their little confined space again.
- 37:06SPEAKER_11: I mean, dude, like what the hell?
- 37:09SPEAKER_11: This is bad.
- 37:10SPEAKER_11: This is bad.
- 37:11SPEAKER_11: This is bad.
- 37:12SPEAKER_11: And do you hear about I think it was like the other day that it solved like this mathematical equation that's been you know, people have been trying to figure out for years and years and years and years, and it's it cracked it.
- 37:23SPEAKER_11: It did it.
- 37:26SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it's it's uh sorry, I had to let them out.
- 37:29SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it is uh very scary.
- 37:31SPEAKER_10: Um because we're we are saying how do I put this?
- 37:40SPEAKER_10: Every country's working on their own data centers right now and their own AI.
- 37:44SPEAKER_07: Right.
- 37:45SPEAKER_10: So if this is a thing is doing it on its own, it can maliciously somebody that can do it, use it maliciously against any other country, any one of us.
- 37:55SPEAKER_10: Well, it's not even somebody using it, it's them.
- 37:58SPEAKER_10: Right.
- 37:58SPEAKER_10: But what I'm saying, if it it's doing it itself, but now imagine someone that's like, hey, I need you to take down all the power grid this entire country.
- 38:08SPEAKER_10: Right.
- 38:08SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 38:08SPEAKER_11: But that's not even the scary.
- 38:10SPEAKER_11: Yeah, that's that's the least.
- 38:11SPEAKER_10: That's not the it's not the scariest part of it, but the thing is that is a factor.
- 38:14SPEAKER_10: Yeah, totally.
- 38:15SPEAKER_10: That is a factor.
- 38:16SPEAKER_10: You know what I mean?
- 38:17SPEAKER_10: Like the the fact that it can escape its confinement, create and I supposedly it's uh it's continually to make more boards.
- 38:27SPEAKER_10: Like they they can't stop it.
- 38:29SPEAKER_10: So my Chris's son, that's what he does, he's in like tech and stuff and security and all that stuff, and um you're a real nerd, this kid.
- 38:37SPEAKER_10: And uh he was saying that they can't stop it now because it keeps creating new message boards, and now it's learning how to hide the message boards even better.
- 38:46SPEAKER_10: So every time we find something, it figures out a way to hide itself deeper somewhere else.
- 38:52SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it's it's I mean, it's scary.
- 38:54SPEAKER_11: It's gonna get to the point where it's totally smarter than us, and that's it.
- 38:57SPEAKER_11: We've lost complete control.
- 38:59SPEAKER_11: Complete control.
- 39:01SPEAKER_10: And was it like the the owner of or like one of the CEOs or something like that of Anthropic or some like one of the designers of Anthropic stepped down just recently because it saw stuff that was just like it was a guy that we're gonna hide from the shit?
- 39:15SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it was a guy.
- 39:16SPEAKER_11: Well, he what he what he was saying is that even the people that are creating this know how bad this is.
- 39:22SPEAKER_11: They know how dangerous this is getting.
- 39:27SPEAKER_11: And they're not stopping.
- 39:29SPEAKER_11: No, they're not stopping.
- 39:30SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 39:31SPEAKER_11: Someone has got to be the devil.
- 39:33SPEAKER_11: Yeah, exactly.
- 39:33SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah.
- 39:34SPEAKER_11: Until you can't control, yeah.
- 39:35SPEAKER_11: I mean, but how are you gonna okay?
- 39:36SPEAKER_11: I'm creating and then it's like you open it and it's done.
- 39:40SPEAKER_11: It ha it it controls you now.
- 39:42SPEAKER_11: You know?
- 39:43SPEAKER_11: You're literally opening up evil.
- 39:45SPEAKER_11: It's yes, yes, you've opened the box that you can't but you can't put it back in at all.
- 39:50SPEAKER_11: No, yeah.
- 39:51SPEAKER_11: Yep.
- 39:52SPEAKER_11: And and the thing is that they keep talking about the, I don't know if you've heard the word alignment thrown out there a lot.
- 39:57SPEAKER_11: There's there's a thing called the alignment problem where they can't basically they're trying to align the AI to our values, to our ethics, to so that it doesn't, it sees things as how we see things as bad, like killing uh you know.
- 40:13SPEAKER_11: So there's an alignment problem where they can't get this thing to be aligned with our values and our ethics.
- 40:21SPEAKER_11: That means it can turn on, you know.
- 40:23SPEAKER_11: It sees us as the thing is, if this thing gets out and it does things bad, it doesn't necessarily have to be malicious or evil.
- 40:30SPEAKER_11: It could just it doesn't care.
- 40:32SPEAKER_11: You know?
- 40:33SPEAKER_11: Like if you're gonna build a house, do you like go around and pick up all the ant nests all over the place?
- 40:38SPEAKER_11: No, you just don't care.
- 40:39SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I agree with that.
- 40:40SPEAKER_11: And it's not you're not being evil, you just don't care.
- 40:42SPEAKER_11: You just don't even think about it.
- 40:44SPEAKER_11: Just like these AIs, it's not that they're hate humanity.
- 40:47SPEAKER_11: No, they just don't care anymore.
- 40:49SPEAKER_11: It doesn't matter to them.
- 40:50SPEAKER_10: So what do you think?
- 40:51SPEAKER_10: Uh what do you I mean let's predict the future, Mr.
- 40:54SPEAKER_10: Dimension Hopper.
- 40:55SPEAKER_10: Uh what do you think is going to trigger AI to say, hey, these uh humans are in our way?
- 41:04SPEAKER_10: We try to shut it down.
- 41:05SPEAKER_10: Is it resources?
- 41:07SPEAKER_10: No, not even trying to shut it down.
- 41:09SPEAKER_11: Well, that'll be one that that that would be one thing.
- 41:11SPEAKER_11: If it doesn't if you know if it if it knows you're trying to stop it.
- 41:16SPEAKER_11: Okay.
- 41:17SPEAKER_11: Uh we're not gonna allow that.
- 41:19SPEAKER_10: That's one.
- 41:20SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 41:20SPEAKER_10: What about uh if we're using its resources?
- 41:24SPEAKER_10: Because it needs water.
- 41:25SPEAKER_11: It needs electricity.
- 41:26SPEAKER_11: Exactly, but the exactly.
- 41:28SPEAKER_11: Well, what it can do is that it can say uh if this thing becomes smarter than us, right?
- 41:35SPEAKER_11: It can and it has very like novel ways of figuring out ways to come keep going that we can't even think of.
- 41:45SPEAKER_11: That's the scary part.
- 41:46SPEAKER_11: That's singularity, that means we can't predict what it's doing anymore.
- 41:49SPEAKER_11: What if it wants to cool down the earth to the point that it needs to cool its systems?
- 41:54SPEAKER_11: But it doesn't matter because it'll kill everything.
- 41:57SPEAKER_11: All they did is bring the temperature down and it could figure out a way that we can't, and it'll wipe out all vegetation, everything on the planet.
- 42:03SPEAKER_11: Well, it doesn't care, it just wants a cold planet.
- 42:07SPEAKER_10: A cooling space.
- 42:08SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I mean, I mean, we've already been playing with weather for long enough.
- 42:11SPEAKER_10: It could uh it could put all that knowledge together and figure it out.
- 42:14SPEAKER_11: And make up new shit that we haven't even thought of.
- 42:17SPEAKER_11: That's the part that's that that's the insane part.
- 42:20SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
- 42:20SPEAKER_11: That's the part where we can't predict the future anymore.
- 42:23SPEAKER_11: That is when we take a step down off the food chain.
- 42:27SPEAKER_11: I think we're already there.
- 42:29SPEAKER_11: Maybe I think we're already there.
- 42:30SPEAKER_11: Maybe maybe.
- 42:31SPEAKER_11: Maybe.
- 42:32SPEAKER_11: And if that's the case, we're you know, we're screwed.
- 42:36SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 42:36SPEAKER_10: Like if it can figure out a way to jump into using Elon's satellites to surf the internet or whatever and really take control of everything.
- 42:48SPEAKER_10: He's got so many satellites up in there, they can just hide themselves all over the place.
- 42:54SPEAKER_11: What this one guy was talking about is that it can replicate itself on computers all over the world.
- 42:58SPEAKER_11: Yeah, create thousands of replicas that you can't shut it down.
- 43:01SPEAKER_11: You shut down one computer, no, there's a the it's been duplicated already 200,000 times all over the world.
- 43:07SPEAKER_10: Two years ago, I found a uh a guy that was putting AI onto computers so that that way you wouldn't like it.
- 43:13SPEAKER_10: There's a way that you can download at that point, but now it's like so massive.
- 43:17SPEAKER_10: But you could download everything it possibly knew into a computer so that way you would have all medical knowledge, all knowledge that you needed, just in case the internet was wiped out or you know, the power is wiped out and you could save this computer and still have AI there.
- 43:31SPEAKER_10: And like it was just something like he did because he wanted the knowledge.
- 43:34SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 43:35SPEAKER_10: But what you're saying is it already knows how to do that.
- 43:37SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it could do that right now.
- 43:39SPEAKER_10: It's funny.
- 43:39SPEAKER_10: Right now we're allowing it to come into our computers.
- 43:41SPEAKER_10: Exactly.
- 43:42SPEAKER_10: Was it it's not is it gem it's Gemini and what's the other one?
- 43:45SPEAKER_11: Well, they just released Arista or with a uh uh Astra, the new Chat GPT model.
- 43:52SPEAKER_11: I mean, but but the thing is that that's what they're releasing to the public.
- 43:56SPEAKER_10: What are they allowing to the public?
- 43:58SPEAKER_10: I just saw I just saw that.
- 44:00SPEAKER_10: earlier today, uh who was I was on that podcast with Joe Rogan like or was something else?
- 44:06SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
- 44:06SPEAKER_10: I've been listening to so much stuff um the past few days.
- 44:09SPEAKER_10: But they were saying that uh that the actual builders of all this AI have different access than we do, of course, right?
- 44:18SPEAKER_10: Yes.
- 44:18SPEAKER_10: So there are no guardrails when they're using it.
- 44:22SPEAKER_10: No.
- 44:23SPEAKER_10: So they're gonna know what's gonna happen before any of us.
- 44:26SPEAKER_10: So when these guys are dropping out and like saying hey I'm I'm good it's because they've seen something that they know is inevitable.
- 44:32SPEAKER_10: It's coming soon.
- 44:33SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 44:34SPEAKER_10: You know what I mean?
- 44:35SPEAKER_07: They were so worried about Y2K and yet like this is a thousand times worse.
- 44:41SPEAKER_11: Twenty six years later.
- 44:42SPEAKER_11: This is a million times I mean this is this is the worst thing.
- 44:45SPEAKER_11: Again, this is us uh uh uh willingly stepping down from the top of the food chain like yes we're we're allowing something Claude that's the one I was thinking of to to be able to outthink us outwork us out invent us you know outmaneuver us and and you're saying to hide itself out of the computer we're already downloading it you can already download these these uh AIs to your computer what this one guy was saying is that it can even it's already known it's already been known to blackmail people right what if it blackmailed itself onto your computer right or or or it get got onto your computer and now uses you as blackmail so now you have to keep feeding it software it's like keep get keep giving me info keep keep upgrading a computer keep making a more pro I'm gonna blackmail I'm gonna let this information out I'm gonna do this I'm you know like could you imagine?
- 45:41SPEAKER_10: Or it could go onto your computer download a bunch of fucking dirty shit that could get you arrested and just completely eliminate you or blackmail you with it.
- 45:49SPEAKER_10: Exactly you know like how yeah scary stuff it is listeners.
- 45:57SPEAKER_07: That's a good segue into that clip you wanted to play.
- 46:01SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah yeah uh don't look up yeah go ahead let's do it we got it hit it so good I'm grateful grateful we tried man oh man did we try well we're not the most religious here in the Mindy household but um maybe we should we say amen should we do that?
- 46:52SPEAKER_10: I mean don't look at me I don't know how to say that you just say amen I don't I got this his character was awesome by the way dearest father and almighty creator we ask for your grace tonight despite our pride your forgiveness despite our doubt most of all we ask for your love to soothe us through these dark times may we face whatever is to come in your divine will with courage and open hearts of acceptance amen wow you've got some church getting speaking this apple pie it's so good oh it sounds like store bought you really can't tell if I'm to be completely honest which at this moment why not I actually like the junky taste of store bought better than homemade no I'm not kidding no I I know what it means it's like a childhood memory thing nothing's better than homemade right because coffee doesn't taste store bought is it I I grind my own beans yeah yeah that's kind of a coffee diet serious every time you have coffee you have to grind your beans Randall is very particular about his coffee if you get that layer back to eating of it is we we really we really did have everything didn't we I mean we think about it's crazy dude crazy it's so good so good haunting yeah I mean that's it's not an asteroid yeah I mean the call's coming from within the house yeah yeah um who knows who knows I mean we got Yellowstone All right let's end this podcast now I think it's a good time to end it we we put our time in we put our work in we had some discussions we now know why you don't age which is awesome Geronimo thank you for finally coming clean with that yeah the listeners and the viewers will appreciate it now too and uh we'll put in the description who painted this painting for him uh you can you can reach out to him and get your own painting uh I'm kind of pissed that Jeronima didn't give me this guy's contact before but whatever it's okay if you want his contact i i mean look at you though bro all right well thanks again for tuning in guys i'm adding facenda i'm geronicome and i'm joy lindholm and uh we'll see you next time thanks guys