Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Carolyn Young: Retail NZ Chief Executive says retailers are celebrating a Police crackdown crime
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- 0:00Speaker 1: So police arrests for retail crime are through the roof.
- 0:03Speaker 1: There were over 21,000 arrests for retail crime in the
- 0:05Speaker 1: year to June. That is three times as many as
- 0:09Speaker 1: the previous four years. Carolyn Young is the CEO of
- 0:13Speaker 1: Retail New Zealand. Good morning to you, Carolyn.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Well, hello, Andrew.
- 0:18Speaker 1: You'll be very happy that these figures are big.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's taken a concerted effort from everyone, and
- 0:25Speaker 2: the National Retail Crime Unit that was set up in
- 0:30Speaker 2: 2022 has really understood the landscape that they're working in.
- 0:35Speaker 2: They work on the data side of things. So in comparison,
- 0:39Speaker 2: the work that unit's been doing alongside the fact that
- 0:43Speaker 2: we now have a retail crime unit in every police
- 0:46Speaker 2: district across the country, Retailers are reporting more crime and
- 0:50Speaker 2: we're able to capture more offenders. That accounts for a
- 0:54Speaker 2: number of these issues. And in retail crime, what we
- 0:59Speaker 2: see is 10% of offenders do 60% of the crime.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Recidivist offending is so high with retail crime that if
- 1:05Speaker 2: you capture some of those recidivist offenders, they get charged
- 1:10Speaker 2: with a significant number of offences and that really makes
- 1:14Speaker 2: a difference to, you know, that they're not back out
- 1:16Speaker 2: in the street offending more. Yeah.
- 1:18Speaker 1: Well, it's the same with ram raiding, when ram raiding
- 1:20Speaker 1: is all the thing, which, by the way, in these
- 1:21Speaker 1: figures shows is completely fallen off. But when we actually
- 1:24Speaker 1: looked at it, there was only, you know, there's only
- 1:26Speaker 1: 100-odd kids who kept on doing it over and over
- 1:28Speaker 1: and over and over again.
- 1:29Speaker 2: That's right, exactly. And so, you know, one of the
- 1:32Speaker 2: retailers have also done is they've put in place lots
- 1:34Speaker 2: of different tools and strategies to ensure that they limit
- 1:38Speaker 2: the ability for people to get away with offenses. And
- 1:40Speaker 2: if you think about ram raids, there's a whole lot
- 1:42Speaker 2: of structural things that had to be put in place
- 1:44Speaker 2: in a number of locations for people's businesses. to protect
- 1:47Speaker 2: them and make it more difficult for someone to ram
- 1:49Speaker 2: raid their store.
- 1:50Speaker 1: So are you prepared to give a high five to
- 1:52Speaker 1: the government who brought in these retail crime initiatives?
- 1:56Speaker 2: Yeah, look, the New Zealand Police are doing really well
- 1:58Speaker 2: and obviously it's been driven both by the Police Commissioner
- 2:01Speaker 2: and the Minister of Police, so it's been a really
- 2:03Speaker 2: good outcome for retailers over the last few years.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Now, you were a critic of the citizens' arrest, so
- 2:09Speaker 1: does this data prove or work against your issues with
- 2:12Speaker 1: the new law?
- 2:14Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with citizens' arrest, to be
- 2:16Speaker 2: honest with you, because What we do know is that
- 2:19Speaker 2: in the first 43 days of the legislation there have
- 2:22Speaker 2: been 90 arrests, but the majority of them are not
- 2:25Speaker 2: in the retail setting. We do know that citizens' arrest
- 2:29Speaker 2: is not a preventative crime tool. It is something that
- 2:34Speaker 2: anybody can do anywhere and there's a lot happening in
- 2:36Speaker 2: the domestic situation, not in a retail setting. And to
- 2:41Speaker 2: our concerns, we do know that there was a situation
- 2:44Speaker 2: with A young retail worker in a dairy who was
- 2:47Speaker 2: 19 chased three offenders down the street, did a citizen's
- 2:52Speaker 2: arrest of a 13-year-old person and assaulted them when they
- 2:58Speaker 2: were dragging them back to the store. So now he's
- 3:00Speaker 2: in front of the court on charges of assault. So
- 3:03Speaker 2: that's the concern that you have, is that people understanding
- 3:06Speaker 2: what they need to do. Gotcha.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Thank you. Retail New Zealand CEO Carolyn Young. Don't apologise
- 3:11Speaker 1: for a thing. You were great. For more from Early
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