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- 0:02Speaker 1: On scoring lids Australia. This is the Reader Paney Show.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. Coming
- 0:11Speaker 2: up tonight the leadership showdown between Susan Lee and Angus Taylor.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Daniel Wilde will provide his insights into the candidates. Next,
- 0:20Speaker 2: the Great Douglas Murray joins the program and he has
- 0:22Speaker 2: some blistering analysis for the likes of Grace Tame and
- 0:27Speaker 2: the Greens. Army Horowitz will have the latest from the US,
- 0:30Speaker 2: and later in the hour Kinsey Schofield will bring us
- 0:34Speaker 2: the real scandal from the Winter Olympics and Left is losing.
- 0:39Speaker 2: It features this brave woman. But first Susan Lee and
- 0:55Speaker 2: Angus Taylor will face off for the Liberal leadership tomorrow morning.
- 0:58Speaker 2: A letter calling for a Lee ship's bill was hand
- 1:01Speaker 2: delivered to Leite this morning and we've had several resignations
- 1:05Speaker 2: from key Liberal figures, including James Patterson and Jonathan Dunniam.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Angus Taylor made his pitch to voters in a social
- 1:13Speaker 2: media video posted earlier today.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Our country is in trouble.
- 1:18Speaker 2: The Labor government has failed and the Liberal Party has
- 1:21Speaker 2: lost its way.
- 1:23Speaker 3: I'm running to be.
- 1:24Speaker 2: The leader of the Liberal Party because I believe that
- 1:26Speaker 2: Australia is worth fighting for. Joining me now is Institute
- 1:30Speaker 2: of Public Affairs Deputy Executive Director Daniel Wild Dan. We're
- 1:36Speaker 2: also likely to have a fight for the deputy role.
- 1:39Speaker 2: We've got the likes of Senator Jane Hume expected to
- 1:42Speaker 2: challenge Ted O'Brien for the position. Tim Wilson, Zowen, Mackenzie
- 1:46Speaker 2: dan Tin and Melissa McIntosh are also potential candidates. So
- 1:51Speaker 2: does that fill you with confidence?
- 1:56Speaker 4: Well, it's a start, you know. Obviously some change is
- 2:00Speaker 4: needed in a leadership capacity. I mean, you can't go
- 2:04Speaker 4: to an election on a fifteen or a sixteen percent primary.
- 2:06Speaker 4: You know it's going to be all over. It was
- 2:08Speaker 4: only a matter of time before leadership was changed. But look,
- 2:13Speaker 4: the thing is that no matter who the leader is,
- 2:15Speaker 4: no matter who the deputy leader is, there needs to
- 2:17Speaker 4: be more than just a change of the personalities. There
- 2:20Speaker 4: needs to be a change of policy direction that needs
- 2:22Speaker 4: to be very sharp, It needs to be convincing, and
- 2:25Speaker 4: it needs to be unrelenting on the issues that actually matter,
- 2:28Speaker 4: for example, on immigration, on policies like net zero, on
- 2:32Speaker 4: the direction of our country and our culture. So we'll
- 2:36Speaker 4: wait and see as to whether the next leader of
- 2:39Speaker 4: the party and the deputy leader understand that and are
- 2:42Speaker 4: able to communicate and create a contest. Right, they actually
- 2:44Speaker 4: have to create a contest with the government. We all
- 2:46Speaker 4: know that interest rates are up, we all know that
- 2:48Speaker 4: cost of living is up and so forth, but you know,
- 2:50Speaker 4: what are you actually going to do about it? And
- 2:52Speaker 4: how are you going to communicate to Australians that you
- 2:56Speaker 4: offer a different alternative. The other point I'll make is
- 2:58Speaker 4: that the challenge that the Liberal Party phases is that
- 3:01Speaker 4: there's a real lack of trust in it among the community.
- 3:05Speaker 4: So they have a massive, if you want to use
- 3:07Speaker 4: a marketing term, of brand equity issue. People don't really
- 3:10Speaker 4: listen to Liberals at the moment because of the ten
- 3:13Speaker 4: years in government, most of which was wasted. So you know,
- 3:16Speaker 4: I don't know whether they understand that they're in the
- 3:19Speaker 4: Tory territory now. You know, it's not just like another
- 3:22Speaker 4: normal cycle. It's people actually don't trust the brand anymore.
- 3:25Speaker 4: So you know, a change of leadership will help. But
- 3:28Speaker 4: this is pretty structural at the moment.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Can you see Angus Taylor repairing that trust with the
- 3:36Speaker 2: Liberal base and with voters in general, because this is
- 3:40Speaker 2: all about policies. If you don't actually stand for anything consequential,
- 3:45Speaker 2: then you can change leaders as much as you like.
- 3:48Speaker 2: You're not going to win back that support from disaffected voters.
- 3:53Speaker 4: That's right. It remains to be seen. So you know,
- 3:56Speaker 4: I'll keep an open mind about whoever the leader is.
- 3:59Speaker 4: Looks like it anger, so keep it open mind about it.
- 4:02Speaker 4: But the first thing they have to do politically speaking,
- 4:04Speaker 4: is they have to actually win back to one nation voters.
- 4:06Speaker 4: So you know, they're actually fighting a war on two fronts.
- 4:10Speaker 4: So there's no point in taking the fight to the
- 4:12Speaker 4: government unless you take the fight to one nation first.
- 4:15Speaker 4: But this is what they have to understand is that
- 4:17Speaker 4: their current opponent is not Labor, their current opponent is
- 4:20Speaker 4: one nation, and they need to make sure they retain
- 4:23Speaker 4: the status as the actual opposition party. So that's step
- 4:26Speaker 4: number one. And I don't think it's actually that difficult
- 4:29Speaker 4: to do in terms of policies. It's just a question
- 4:32Speaker 4: of whether they want to do it or not. Now
- 4:34Speaker 4: this reveals something much more fundamental, which is half of
- 4:36Speaker 4: the Parliamentary Party doesn't want to do that, right because
- 4:39Speaker 4: they're ashamed of it. You know, half of the party
- 4:41Speaker 4: is ashamed of working class Australians. They thumb their nose
- 4:44Speaker 4: at cultural issues. They think it's beneath them. A lot
- 4:46Speaker 4: of them are quite snobbish about it. So whether they
- 4:49Speaker 4: actually have the capacity to make that move and to
- 4:52Speaker 4: I'm not saying you just appeal to one nation voters
- 4:54Speaker 4: for the sake of it, but politically that's the only
- 4:55Speaker 4: way they survive. And the broader point here is that
- 4:59Speaker 4: the you know, can this massive structural split within the
- 5:04Speaker 4: party be repaired or is it sort of too fundamental?
- 5:08Speaker 4: You know, can you have a party that exists when
- 5:10Speaker 4: half of it wan't it zero, half of it don't,
- 5:12Speaker 4: half of it want mass migration, half of it don't.
- 5:14Speaker 4: So that's the task of the leader and you know,
- 5:17Speaker 4: we'll wait and see as to whether it can actually
- 5:19Speaker 4: be fixed up.
- 5:22Speaker 2: I think you just hit the nail on the head.
- 5:24Speaker 2: And you've got too many within that party that have
- 5:28Speaker 2: used this stain for working class Australians, people out in
- 5:32Speaker 2: regional areas, people in the outer suburbs. They want to
- 5:35Speaker 2: appeal to that till electorate almost exclusively, and those people
- 5:39Speaker 2: within the party are why they're getting a primary vote
- 5:43Speaker 2: of around fifteen percent. Right now, Dan, let's switch to Victoria.
- 5:47Speaker 5: Now.
- 5:47Speaker 2: The full extent of the alleged criminal activity within the
- 5:50Speaker 2: CFMU has been revealed in a report by Jeffrey Watson
- 5:54Speaker 2: sc among those who have benefited from corrupt conduct, systematic
- 5:59Speaker 2: corrupt conduct, convicted and alleged killers employed as cfm A
- 6:04Speaker 2: health and safety officers. Yes, the report also alleged outlaw
- 6:08Speaker 2: motorcycle gangs were embedded in the cfm AU and we're
- 6:12Speaker 2: using government building sites as drug distribution centers. The mass
- 6:16Speaker 2: routing DAN is estimated to have cost Victorian taxpayers around
- 6:21Speaker 2: fifteen billion dollars. Some are estimating the real figure is
- 6:25Speaker 2: closer to thirty billion.
- 6:28Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:28Speaker 4: Well, the big build is a big rought, and we've
- 6:32Speaker 4: known that for a long time. Now there is actually
- 6:35Speaker 4: a smoking gun, or several smoking guns. It was always
- 6:38Speaker 4: somewhat hard to establish, you know, without you know, in
- 6:44Speaker 4: a sort of an objective way, the kind of behavior
- 6:47Speaker 4: that was going on that most people knew that was
- 6:49Speaker 4: going on, but it was never actually established with any
- 6:52Speaker 4: evidence base. But now that is provided, I think this
- 6:55Speaker 4: will be a turning point. You know, labor and Victoria
- 6:57Speaker 4: has sort of gotten away with it for a pretty
- 6:59Speaker 4: long time time, and that sort of the allegations of
- 7:01Speaker 4: corruption have never really stuck fundamentally, But now that you've
- 7:07Speaker 4: got an actual evidence base for it, I suspect this
- 7:11Speaker 4: will be a turning point. It's taken far too long,
- 7:13Speaker 4: and if nothing else, as you mentioned, the cost to
- 7:17Speaker 4: taxpayers because a lot of these projects, well a lot
- 7:20Speaker 4: of the projects are sort of necessary, the road projects
- 7:23Speaker 4: and the bridges and tunnels are probably necessary infrastructure projects,
- 7:26Speaker 4: but the premium, the cost premium that's put on them
- 7:29Speaker 4: through doing work almost exclusively to CFMU, is unconscionable. So
- 7:34Speaker 4: I think this is going to probably damage this into
- 7:36Speaker 4: Allen and it may actually be the end of her
- 7:38Speaker 4: as a result.
- 7:40Speaker 2: Dan Wile, thank you for your time tonight. Joining me
- 7:43Speaker 2: now is the author of international best sellers, including his
- 7:46Speaker 2: latest work on democracies and death cults. Douglas Murray, I'm
- 7:51Speaker 2: keen to get your thoughts on what's been happening in
- 7:53Speaker 2: Australia this week with violent anti Israeli protests. But first
- 7:57Speaker 2: let's start in New York, where the mayor is dodging
- 8:00Speaker 2: blame for the mismanagement that is saying fifteen homeless people
- 8:04Speaker 2: dying due to hypothermia. But Zoron Mamdani is a choosing
- 8:09Speaker 2: to opine about immigration policy, and he believes we have
- 8:13Speaker 2: lessons to learn from the prophet.
- 8:15Speaker 6: And I consider my own faith. Islam a religion built
- 8:19Speaker 6: upon a narrative of migration. The story of the Hedra
- 8:23Speaker 6: reminds us the prophet Muhammad Sode Alali, who was seldom
- 8:27Speaker 6: was a stranger too, who fled Mecca and was welcomed
- 8:30Speaker 6: in Medina. Suda Nahal sixteen forty two tells us as
- 8:35Speaker 6: for those who immigrated in the cause of a law,
- 8:37Speaker 6: after being persecuted, we will surely bless them with a
- 8:40Speaker 6: good home in this world. Or as the prophet Muhammad Salilali,
- 8:44Speaker 6: who was seldom said, Islam began as something strange and
- 8:48Speaker 6: will go back to being strange. So glad tidings to
- 8:51Speaker 6: the strangers.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Douglas, I feel like he left out a few pertinent
- 8:57Speaker 2: facts there, like what happened in Medana. Islam spread from
- 9:04Speaker 2: continent to continent, from Africa to Europe.
- 9:07Speaker 1: There's quite a lot left out there, reader, isn't there?
- 9:10Speaker 1: But I mean, firstly, it is rather strange hearing any politician,
- 9:17Speaker 1: not least the mayor of New York talking like this.
- 9:21Speaker 1: I mean, it's like a sermon really, And because of
- 9:26Speaker 1: attitudes towards faith in America, like in most countries, we
- 9:31Speaker 1: tend to keep personal faith out of politics, Zoramandani is
- 9:37Speaker 1: clearly ostentatiously trying to introduce his faith into politics, and
- 9:43Speaker 1: is doing so, of course, as we saw there, in
- 9:46Speaker 1: a very sort of dishonest way. Frankly, it's not the
- 9:51Speaker 1: case that the founder of Islam was just a sort
- 9:55Speaker 1: of migrant roaming around the Arabian Peninsula, you know, cast
- 10:02Speaker 1: out and you know, effectively sort of seeking to cross
- 10:06Speaker 1: the southern border of the United States and do some
- 10:09Speaker 1: gardening work or something. I don't it's it's just it's
- 10:14Speaker 1: it's not just a dishonest but there's something slightly sinister
- 10:19Speaker 1: about it, frankly, because, as you say, Rita, the actual
- 10:24Speaker 1: story of the spread of Islam is is not one
- 10:29Speaker 1: of a sort of peaceful caravan of people sort of
- 10:35Speaker 1: crossing over a border and you know, asking if they
- 10:39Speaker 1: if they can work off the books and you know,
- 10:43Speaker 1: do a bit of delivery work. It's it's just just
- 10:46Speaker 1: not the story. The story of Islam and it's founding
- 10:50Speaker 1: was that it was spread by the sword, and so
- 10:54Speaker 1: it's it's strange to hear a mayor of New York,
- 10:56Speaker 1: or indeed any American politician talking like this, but particularly stranger.
- 11:01Speaker 1: And they're obviously so deliberately leaving out every pertinent detail,
- 11:07Speaker 1: and the.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Crowd just laps it up. They just applause, no critical thinking.
- 11:12Speaker 2: It's quite depressing. Now to Sydney, where we've had violent
- 11:17Speaker 2: protests sparked by the visit of the Israeli President Isaac Herzog,
- 11:21Speaker 2: who came to our country to mourn with the Jewish
- 11:24Speaker 2: community after the Bondai terror attack. This is the welcome
- 11:29Speaker 2: who received from a woman who was named Australian of
- 11:32Speaker 2: the Year in twenty twenty one, Grace Tame. We have
- 11:35Speaker 2: to continue to mobilize and we have to continue to globalize.
- 11:40Speaker 6: Say it with me, from Gadigal to.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Gaza, Globalize the inch.
- 11:44Speaker 7: Of final won more time, from Gadigol.
- 11:48Speaker 6: To Gaza, Globalize the Interfia.
- 11:52Speaker 2: From Gadigol to Gaza, globalized into Fathera Douglas. There are
- 11:56Speaker 2: calls for Grace Tame, who has been dubbed Australia's Greta Thunberg,
- 12:00Speaker 2: to be stripped off a Australian of the Year honors.
- 12:04Speaker 2: How do you see this episode in Australia this week?
- 12:08Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it's worth I think for some
- 12:11Speaker 1: of view as Rita and making it clear what the
- 12:14Speaker 1: first word she said was, Gaddigal, as I understand it
- 12:19Speaker 1: and as our Australian viewers might know, is an Aboriginal
- 12:23Speaker 1: term for Sydney. So what Grace Tame seems to be saying,
- 12:29Speaker 1: among other things, is that she doesn't want to refer
- 12:32Speaker 1: to Sydney by its Australian name, and she sort of
- 12:38Speaker 1: wants to go deep down, presumably into sort of you know,
- 12:43Speaker 1: first Nations, you know, colonizing sort of rhetoric from the beginning.
- 12:49Speaker 1: But what she's saying, if you take out that bit
- 12:51Speaker 1: of a particular absurdity, what she's saying is from Sydney
- 12:55Speaker 1: to Gaza, globalizing in to fada. Well, of course, only
- 13:01Speaker 1: weeks ago we saw what that globalizing viantfada means in Sydney.
- 13:07Speaker 1: It means massacring people on Bondai Beach, specifically targeting Jews
- 13:14Speaker 1: and shooting them, including children and elderly women on Bondi
- 13:19Speaker 1: Beach in Sydney. So there is no No, this isn't
- 13:24Speaker 1: metaphor anymore. It's not some kind of you know, parable
- 13:30Speaker 1: or something. That's what she's calling for. Knowingly, she's saying,
- 13:35Speaker 1: let's have more of the shooting of young girls and
- 13:39Speaker 1: elderly people and anyone that can be shot. I have
- 13:43Speaker 1: to say I'm pretty startled. It takes quite a lot
- 13:47Speaker 1: to shock me these days, but I'm pretty amazed that
- 13:51Speaker 1: just weeks after the blood was on the sand of
- 13:55Speaker 1: Bondai Beach, you have somebody, let alone, who's been honored
- 13:59Speaker 1: by our Australia, actually calling for much more blood to
- 14:03Speaker 1: be spilt. Of course, people like this always want a
- 14:08Speaker 1: lot of blood to be spilt, so long as it's
- 14:10Speaker 1: not their own. But I suppose Miss Tame just has
- 14:13Speaker 1: to hope that the next gunman who comes along and
- 14:17Speaker 1: starts massacring Australians missus her and her loved ones. I wonder,
- 14:22Speaker 1: I wonder if she thought any of that through.
- 14:26Speaker 2: I'm sure Grace Tame and her supporters that would be
- 14:29Speaker 2: arguing that into fada simply means to shake off and
- 14:33Speaker 2: to oppose tyranny, that it's not a call for violence.
- 14:36Speaker 2: We've heard that argument, but we've also heard from the
- 14:39Speaker 2: Jewish community, like you've just explained that they saw the
- 14:43Speaker 2: Bondai terror attack as an example of globalizing the Intafada.
- 14:47Speaker 1: So it is into farda. It into farda is an
- 14:51Speaker 1: armed uprising. There have been two of them in recent
- 14:55Speaker 1: decades in Israel. The only use of the term into
- 14:58Speaker 1: Farda is describe the massacring of civilians, the blowing up
- 15:03Speaker 1: of civilians on buses, the shooting of civilians in the stry.
- 15:06Speaker 1: It isn't used in any other context. It only means
- 15:10Speaker 1: that one thing. And I mean, I'm just, as I say,
- 15:15Speaker 1: amazed that an Australian can be so unbelievably wicked in
- 15:22Speaker 1: public and in front of a crowd who seemed to
- 15:24Speaker 1: be wanting to join in that wickedness.
- 15:28Speaker 2: Well, we also had Douglas politicians, including Greens and PS,
- 15:33Speaker 2: objecting to this visit. Let's hear from Barbara Pocock should
- 15:39Speaker 2: never have been invited to Australia a divisive visit, one
- 15:42Speaker 2: that doesn't recognize his association with genocide. Douglas, what's your
- 15:47Speaker 2: response to that argument that the president of Israel is
- 15:52Speaker 2: complicit in genocide.
- 15:55Speaker 1: First of all, the president in Israel is somebody who
- 15:59Speaker 1: sits above politics, much like the king does in our
- 16:06Speaker 1: own democracies. And secondly, of course, there hasn't been a
- 16:11Speaker 1: genocide in Gaza. What there's been is a war that
- 16:15Speaker 1: was started by Hamaz and some of the citizens of
- 16:18Speaker 1: Gaza on October seventh, twenty twenty three. There hasn't been
- 16:22Speaker 1: a genocide or anything like it. There's been a war.
- 16:27Speaker 1: And when you hear these politicians trotting out these smears
- 16:33Speaker 1: and these lies again you have to, like with the
- 16:36Speaker 1: people who pretend they don't mean what they mean when
- 16:38Speaker 1: they use intafada, you've got you've got to ask him
- 16:40Speaker 1: if they really have thought through the consequences of pumping
- 16:44Speaker 1: out these lies and untruths. If there were actually a
- 16:49Speaker 1: genocide going on somewhere, if there was an actual attempt
- 16:52Speaker 1: to completely eradicate an entire people and it had been
- 16:56Speaker 1: going on, then that's one thing. But that's absolutely nothing
- 17:00Speaker 1: like the war that's been going on that Hamaz started.
- 17:04Speaker 1: So yes, I mean to make that claim is itself
- 17:09Speaker 1: just unbelievably fallacious and erroneous, But to claim that the
- 17:16Speaker 1: non political president of a country which has been at
- 17:20Speaker 1: war for the last couple of years when he comes
- 17:26Speaker 1: to Australia to mourn with terror victims in Australia should
- 17:32Speaker 1: be treated with this barrage of lies and contempt and
- 17:38Speaker 1: smear is really quite something. And always, as we know, Rita,
- 17:42Speaker 1: as you and I have often said, always this comes
- 17:44Speaker 1: from people who think that they're standing on the right
- 17:46Speaker 1: side of history. You know, there they are standing screaming
- 17:50Speaker 1: abuse at the Jews, and it's all still on the
- 17:55Speaker 1: right side of history, calling for violence, calling for more
- 17:59Speaker 1: inter farda more armed uprising. But it's always on the
- 18:02Speaker 1: right side of history, isn't it. It's always in a
- 18:05Speaker 1: nice and kind way, of course.
- 18:09Speaker 2: And we don't see these people, whether in the US,
- 18:12Speaker 2: the UK or here in Australia, protest against the Iranian regime.
- 18:17Speaker 2: We haven't seen that at all from these leftist activists,
- 18:20Speaker 2: not even as shocking reports come to light of the
- 18:24Speaker 2: regime executing injured protesters in their hospital beds. The New
- 18:29Speaker 2: York Post reports on horrifying footage being shed inside Iran
- 18:33Speaker 2: of security forces raiding hospitals to look for those who
- 18:36Speaker 2: were wounded during the protest. Douglas and the numbers killed
- 18:40Speaker 2: now were not clear on them, but there are many
- 18:44Speaker 2: tens of thousands.
- 18:47Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say reach that there are
- 18:49Speaker 1: certainly tens of thousands of casualties inside Iran caused by
- 18:55Speaker 1: the regime, the victims being the Iranian people who have
- 19:00Speaker 1: incredibly bravely turned out on the streets to object to
- 19:03Speaker 1: the regime that's ruined the country of their birth since
- 19:07Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. It's pretty amazing when you think about it,
- 19:11Speaker 1: that in just a few weeks all those casualties have
- 19:16Speaker 1: mounted up, and there's this silence. There's just this silence.
- 19:20Speaker 1: You and I have commented on it before, Rita. Why
- 19:25Speaker 1: is the silence there? Is it that Jews aren't involved?
- 19:29Speaker 1: Is it that they can't blame Trump? Is it that
- 19:34Speaker 1: there isn't that they can't see some kind of you know,
- 19:38Speaker 1: decolonizing angle to this. You know, who knows, maybe their
- 19:43Speaker 1: fatuous world views aren't actually applicable to the world. I mean,
- 19:50Speaker 1: there's a thought. And so we have obscene things like
- 19:57Speaker 1: commentators not just being silent on this, so not just
- 20:00Speaker 1: protests as being signed on this, but actually we've seen
- 20:04Speaker 1: in recent days various Islamists and others in the West
- 20:10Speaker 1: attacking the brave critics of the Iranian revolutionary government. I
- 20:18Speaker 1: mean it's actually, it's not just the critics of the
- 20:22Speaker 1: government on the streets of Iranian cities. It's the critics
- 20:25Speaker 1: of the Iranian government from Iran in cities like New
- 20:29Speaker 1: York who are getting criticism. You know, if an ounce
- 20:33Speaker 1: of that criticism went to the Ayatollah and his death
- 20:36Speaker 1: squads and all of his goons from the Bassiege militia
- 20:40Speaker 1: and elsewhere, who as you say, as a New York
- 20:42Speaker 1: Post reported, and not just shooting people in the head
- 20:45Speaker 1: in the streets and snipe sniping people in the streets,
- 20:48Speaker 1: but going around and shooting them in their hospital beds.
- 20:51Speaker 1: If an ounce of you know, condemnation came towards them,
- 20:59Speaker 1: I mean, we'd noticed it, but it just it isn't
- 21:02Speaker 1: The silence tells you almost everything.
- 21:05Speaker 2: Frankly, it is And you're so right. This smear campaign
- 21:10Speaker 2: against the people speaking out for the Uranian freedom fighters
- 21:14Speaker 2: and even smearing people with inside Iran who are risking
- 21:18Speaker 2: their lives protesting against this regime. The suggestion that this
- 21:22Speaker 2: is some Western plot in some conspiracy by America and
- 21:26Speaker 2: Israel to destabilize a regime like the use, as he explain,
- 21:31Speaker 2: has destroyed that country since nineteen seventy nine. Now before
- 21:34Speaker 2: you go, I saw this piece in The Independent yesterday
- 21:38Speaker 2: arguing Douglas that the UK countryside is racist. The author argues,
- 21:43Speaker 2: just like British towns and cities that have what she
- 21:46Speaker 2: calls racist rights and flag campaigns, the British countryside is
- 21:50Speaker 2: also racist in parts, And Douglas, you'll be happy to
- 21:53Speaker 2: know the Starma government has been busy tackling this very
- 21:57Speaker 2: serious issue and even commission to review into the matter.
- 22:04Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. They have commissioned a review to find
- 22:09Speaker 1: the English countryside guilty, specific guilty of the crime of racism.
- 22:16Speaker 1: Among other things, the report says that if the countryside
- 22:20Speaker 1: wants to remain relevant, it's very hard to say. If
- 22:25Speaker 1: the countryside wants to remain relevant, it's got to diversify. Well,
- 22:30Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the job of hills and fields
- 22:36Speaker 1: is to be relevant. I don't think. I don't think
- 22:41Speaker 1: that that its job is to sort of adapt to
- 22:44Speaker 1: the zeitgeist of the era. I think its job is
- 22:47Speaker 1: actually to remind us of the eternal and of what
- 22:51Speaker 1: is constant. If you kept trying to trying to make
- 22:55Speaker 1: the countryside relevant, what would you do sort of make
- 22:57Speaker 1: sure you did lots of pride color maybe across corn fields.
- 23:02Speaker 1: Maybe you could grow your crops in the color of
- 23:05Speaker 1: the Progress flag or something like that. But this is
- 23:09Speaker 1: all just preposterous. And as I actually said in a
- 23:12Speaker 1: piece in the Spectator last week, just imagine I mean,
- 23:16Speaker 1: I laugh at this because otherwise you'd weep. But just
- 23:19Speaker 1: imagine this is this England in the Britain in the
- 23:22Speaker 1: twenty first century wants to find itself guilty of absolutely everything.
- 23:27Speaker 1: We've got some islands and take us island. Let's give
- 23:30Speaker 1: them away. We've got beautiful buildings, let's say that they
- 23:34Speaker 1: were built because of slavery. We've got wonderful cities, Let's
- 23:37Speaker 1: pretend they're the result of empire and nothing else. We've
- 23:41Speaker 1: got beautiful countryside. Let's call it racist. And this comes
- 23:46Speaker 1: from government departments.
- 23:48Speaker 2: And the one thing I always.
- 23:50Speaker 1: Ask about this is effectually the the what's you know,
- 23:54Speaker 1: the source of the goose, source of the gander, you know,
- 23:59Speaker 1: would be rita any other scenario where it would be
- 24:05Speaker 1: deemed acceptable to go to a country's natural place, it's nature,
- 24:13Speaker 1: and say that it was racist and claim that it
- 24:17Speaker 1: was racist. Because I don't know. One of the things
- 24:19Speaker 1: is that there aren't enough. I think there aren't enough
- 24:22Speaker 1: Muslims at the pubs in the English countryside or something. Well,
- 24:26Speaker 1: well good luck forcing that one.
- 24:29Speaker 3: There aren't.
- 24:31Speaker 1: I mean, but just as I say, just just just
- 24:33Speaker 1: try this anywhere else. I mean, you know, if you
- 24:36Speaker 1: went to Pakistan wandered into the beautiful Pakistani countryside and said,
- 24:42Speaker 1: I'm terribly sorry, but this isn't very diverse chaps. We're
- 24:45Speaker 1: going to bring a whole load of people from Wales
- 24:48Speaker 1: because you haven't got any Welsh representation and it's really
- 24:53Speaker 1: not up to scratch. Until you do, people would think
- 24:55Speaker 1: you were barmy. They would think you were completely crazy
- 24:59Speaker 1: because you would to be. So why why we put
- 25:03Speaker 1: up with this? I just don't know.
- 25:07Speaker 2: The self loathing is reaching new heights in the UK.
- 25:12Speaker 2: Really is quite astonishing to be attacking your natural features,
- 25:16Speaker 2: those xenophobe extreams and mountains. Douglas Murray, hits always a pleasure.
- 25:23Speaker 2: Great to see you. Rita still ta karma, Lefty is
- 25:27Speaker 2: losing ed and the latest from the US. Plus we'll
- 25:31Speaker 2: look at the latest mass shooting attributed to a transgender suspect.
- 25:36Speaker 2: Army horror, Witz joins me. Next, you're watching the Reader
- 25:50Speaker 2: Panny Show, and it's time for left is losing it.
- 25:54Speaker 2: So much of what is wrong in the West can
- 25:56Speaker 2: be traced back to the warp thinking, the suicidally stupid
- 26:00Speaker 2: self loathing of the awfuls. That's the affluent white female leftist,
- 26:05Speaker 2: the Karens, who not only vote left, but they're determined
- 26:09Speaker 2: to make a nuisance of themselves pushing their twisted ideology.
- 26:13Speaker 2: Even a yoga studio is not safe from the madness.
- 26:17Speaker 2: Watch these mad banshees attack some poor workers at a
- 26:21Speaker 2: Minneapolis yoga studio because they want these workers to issue
- 26:27Speaker 2: formal statements against ICE, US Immigration and Customs enforcement.
- 26:33Speaker 8: Cool.
- 26:33Speaker 7: So I'm out loud for the camera for all my
- 26:35Speaker 7: viewers hear it. Why are you being silent? Let's leat
- 26:40Speaker 7: hear it. Deletey loud and proud, baby. You want to
- 26:42Speaker 7: say it, you can say it. Why? Yeah, Okay, let's go.
- 26:49Speaker 7: Let's an am and a wealth You should have well
- 26:52Speaker 7: rehearsed corporate action and words ready to go.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Yes, the poor workers at the yoga studio must issue
- 26:59Speaker 2: state against ICE. Now, let's hear it from the crazy
- 27:03Speaker 2: Karen who let that.
- 27:05Speaker 7: Protest because I know that the set people don't make
- 27:07Speaker 7: a lot of money, and I always want to be
- 27:10Speaker 7: able to support people who have to clean up. One
- 27:14Speaker 7: of the people in the class said to me, you
- 27:16Speaker 7: know what, we shouldn't put our weights away today. We
- 27:18Speaker 7: should left corporate cleaning it up, since they're here to
- 27:20Speaker 7: see how everything is.
- 27:21Speaker 9: And that's exactly what we did.
- 27:23Speaker 7: So rather than putting our weights back and organizing the
- 27:25Speaker 7: gub normally what, we just left them on the floor.
- 27:28Speaker 2: Yes, a brave and stunning stand by the yoga mom's there,
- 27:32Speaker 2: And instead of standing up for their workers, that studio
- 27:36Speaker 2: has caved into the mob and is now putting up
- 27:39Speaker 2: anti ICE signs in its studios in Minneapolis. Absolutely pathetic.
- 27:44Speaker 2: Let's check in now on an activist using the medium
- 27:48Speaker 2: of dance and knitted jumpers to protest against President Trump
- 27:52Speaker 2: and Ice.
- 28:05Speaker 3: Wow.
- 28:05Speaker 2: I can't say how President Trump can pulsibly recover from that.
- 28:10Speaker 2: Let's hear now from Sunny Houstin, the co host of
- 28:13Speaker 2: the View, to make some incredible claims here about the
- 28:17Speaker 2: world's richest man in l.
- 28:19Speaker 10: Musk I think we need to call a thing a
- 28:21Speaker 10: thing when we're talking about someone like Elon Musk. He
- 28:25Speaker 10: has trafficked in white supremacy on the Internet, on social media,
- 28:30Speaker 10: on x for quite some time. He sparked some controversy
- 28:34Speaker 10: just on January eighth, calling for white solidarity and warning
- 28:37Speaker 10: that white men would be slaughtered if they became a minority.
- 28:40Speaker 10: He also posted in September that white people are rapidly
- 28:43Speaker 10: diminishing minority of the global population, and in December he
- 28:47Speaker 10: said that the South African government is super racist against
- 28:49Speaker 10: anyone who isn't black. And he has also said that
- 28:52Speaker 10: he is not African, that he is actually of British
- 28:54Speaker 10: and English descent, and so we know what this is.
- 28:58Speaker 10: He is a white supremacist. In my view, he is
- 29:00Speaker 10: a racist.
- 29:02Speaker 2: So Elon Musk is a racist and a white supremacist
- 29:06Speaker 2: for simply noting facts, facts that Sonny does not like.
- 29:11Speaker 2: I got to say one thing to Sonny Austin. It's
- 29:14Speaker 2: not Elon Musk whose family has a history of being
- 29:17Speaker 2: slave owners.
- 29:19Speaker 10: Wow, I'm a little bit in shock. I just always
- 29:24Speaker 10: thought of myself as Puerto Rican, you know, half Puerto Rican.
- 29:28Speaker 10: I didn't think I was. My family was originally from
- 29:32Speaker 10: Spain and slaveholders.
- 29:36Speaker 2: Let's hear now from a transactivist who thinks the real victim,
- 29:40Speaker 2: the first victim of a horrific mass shooting in Canada
- 29:45Speaker 2: is the killer himself. Because the killer was trans.
- 29:50Speaker 1: The first victim of this tragedy was the shooter. And
- 29:59Speaker 1: you can disagree want that person did not just decide
- 30:05Speaker 1: one day that it was the day. It was the
- 30:10Speaker 1: day that they could not take it any longer.
- 30:15Speaker 2: Let's bring in filmmaker and commentator Army Horoiz. Army, this
- 30:19Speaker 2: is the latest mass shooting attributed to a trans or
- 30:23Speaker 2: non binary killer, or, as the Canadian authorities call him,
- 30:27Speaker 2: the gun person. God forbid they should misgender a mass killer.
- 30:33Speaker 9: That includes the deceased gunperson.
- 30:35Speaker 11: Okay, and then separately, do you know the gun person's
- 30:38Speaker 11: relationship to Army?
- 30:40Speaker 2: What more do we know about this gunman, Jesse van
- 30:43Speaker 2: Rutzla and this horrific crime.
- 30:47Speaker 11: Uh yeah, you stole one of my notes. I mean
- 30:50Speaker 11: how orwellian gun person? That is God, that is chilling
- 30:54Speaker 11: and crazy. Yes, we know this way transperson. First of all,
- 30:59Speaker 11: look as we now have to say, you know, we
- 31:01Speaker 11: talk about gun laws and what their effects are ultimately
- 31:04Speaker 11: on on shootings. Canada is one of the stricts of
- 31:07Speaker 11: gun laws certainly in the world, and yet this is
- 31:11Speaker 11: a mass shooting that we've had. But look, if if
- 31:16Speaker 11: the gunman, we know, if the gunman wasn't a straight
- 31:19Speaker 11: white male, it's the job the authorities to to hide
- 31:25Speaker 11: their identity. That's the way it works, right, it's the
- 31:27Speaker 11: straight white male will identify him all the livelong day.
- 31:30Speaker 11: But if it's not. So there's a trans person, we're
- 31:33Speaker 11: gonna do whatever we can to obscure what.
- 31:35Speaker 3: The identity is.
- 31:36Speaker 11: Right, And look, you know, I had, you know, like
- 31:40Speaker 11: I always do, I do. I do show prep, and
- 31:42Speaker 11: I went in my research with AI and we always
- 31:46Speaker 11: have those fun AI stories, And I asked, well, what
- 31:48Speaker 11: percent of school shootings we've had in the last five
- 31:52Speaker 11: years have been from trans people?
- 31:54Speaker 3: And refused to give me a number. It kept saying
- 31:56Speaker 3: it's a very very low number. I swear it would not.
- 32:00Speaker 11: I had to list every single one of the last
- 32:03Speaker 11: five years mass school shootings and individually go through them.
- 32:07Speaker 3: And what's the answer.
- 32:08Speaker 11: There's been five last five years and to the five
- 32:11Speaker 11: forty percent have been people where trans or non binary.
- 32:15Speaker 9: We well, since we.
- 32:18Speaker 2: Last talked about this, I went and check that out
- 32:21Speaker 2: for myself. I asked the not just chat GPT, but
- 32:26Speaker 2: GROCK and ask precisely what you were talking about, to
- 32:30Speaker 2: list the number of mass shootings in the recent years
- 32:33Speaker 2: that have involved a trans shooter or a non binary shooter,
- 32:38Speaker 2: and it just refuses to do it. When you then
- 32:41Speaker 2: give it a number of events, it will acknowledge it
- 32:45Speaker 2: and repeat those to you, but it will not compile
- 32:48Speaker 2: a list, which is extraordinary because I could ask it
- 32:51Speaker 2: to compile any other sort of list and it will
- 32:54Speaker 2: normally do it. But there is just this determination not
- 32:57Speaker 2: to acknowledge that perhaps there is a problem here. Now,
- 33:01Speaker 2: let's move along to the House of Representatives today passing
- 33:05Speaker 2: a massive election integrity bill two hundred and eighteen to
- 33:09Speaker 2: two hundred and thirteen votes. We've talked about this before, Army,
- 33:13Speaker 2: about how popular this policy is. Around eighty five percent
- 33:16Speaker 2: of Americans back voter ID, but the Democrats continue to
- 33:21Speaker 2: oppose it. They voted against the Save America Act.
- 33:25Speaker 11: Army, Yeah, and this happens over and over and over again.
- 33:30Speaker 11: All the Democrats vot it voted against it in the
- 33:34Speaker 11: House save one.
- 33:36Speaker 3: Look, there's a.
- 33:36Speaker 11: Reason why they continue to push universal mail and balloting
- 33:40Speaker 11: and ballot harvesting and voting all year long, and against
- 33:44Speaker 11: voter ID and by the way, also voting for non
- 33:49Speaker 11: citizens to vote. I know, I know, they all say
- 33:52Speaker 11: that's not true, that's a scurrelous light. It absolutely, one
- 33:56Speaker 11: hundred percent is true. In New York, in San Francisco,
- 34:01Speaker 11: in DC and other cities, they have voted to have
- 34:06Speaker 11: non citizens vote.
- 34:08Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry, that's the reality.
- 34:10Speaker 11: They want to try to get away from that all
- 34:12Speaker 11: they want, but it's just not possible.
- 34:14Speaker 3: Lookrita, yesterday.
- 34:15Speaker 11: Sorry, last week, we talked about the reason why I
- 34:19Speaker 11: made that voter ID video because somebody voted.
- 34:22Speaker 3: For my dad.
- 34:23Speaker 11: What I didn't tell you the second part of that story,
- 34:25Speaker 11: which ties into this, is that I took a photo
- 34:28Speaker 11: of that and I sent that to the California Board
- 34:30Speaker 11: of Elections.
- 34:31Speaker 3: I go, look, you claim there's no voter fraud.
- 34:33Speaker 11: Here is an absolute, clear indication of voter fraud. You
- 34:37Speaker 11: know how quickly they got back to me. They never
- 34:40Speaker 11: gone back to me. They don't care, they don't want
- 34:42Speaker 11: to know. That's the reality. Look, Reita, in virtually every
- 34:47Speaker 11: Western European country you have to show ID to votes.
- 34:52Speaker 11: That's just part of what it is. They don't want
- 34:55Speaker 11: to safeguard elections because they call safeguarding elections voter suppression
- 35:00Speaker 11: the Democratic Party. Okay, the reality is they want this
- 35:04Speaker 11: problematic issue to be in our vote because they feel whatever,
- 35:08Speaker 11: you know, we can go into. That's a whole different
- 35:09Speaker 11: discussion of why they don't want voter integrity. I think
- 35:13Speaker 11: they think it's going to help elect Democrats. Okay, and
- 35:16Speaker 11: this reader is the party.
- 35:18Speaker 2: Only answer, Army, that's the only answer. Why else would
- 35:22Speaker 2: you campaign against vote against the policy. The poll after
- 35:27Speaker 2: poll shows around eighty five percent of Americans back and
- 35:31Speaker 2: we brought you the CNN coverage of that issue last week.
- 35:35Speaker 2: The polling on this is clear. This is almost it's
- 35:38Speaker 2: not even an eighty twenty issue. It's close to a
- 35:40Speaker 2: ninety ten issue. And yet the Democrats are staunchly against
- 35:45Speaker 2: voter id Now talking about Democrats, Democrat heartland of California
- 35:50Speaker 2: has lost another billionaire. Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg is fleeing
- 35:56Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom's California and heading to Florida. Army. He has
- 36:00Speaker 2: purchased a massive waterfront mansion in Miami and he's expected
- 36:05Speaker 2: to live in it. It's not supposed to be a
- 36:06Speaker 2: holiday home. They're expecting him to move to the Red
- 36:09Speaker 2: State in April. Why are so many people living California
- 36:14Speaker 2: leaving California for places like Florida and Texas and Tennessee.
- 36:19Speaker 2: It's a bit of a theme there.
- 36:22Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't tell if that's a retorical question or
- 36:24Speaker 3: a real question.
- 36:24Speaker 4: Reader.
- 36:26Speaker 3: I mean, California is there. It's unbelooked. Here's the data. Okay.
- 36:35Speaker 11: In the last fifteen years, sorry, last ten years, ten
- 36:39Speaker 11: million people have left California, including dozens of billionaires like
- 36:46Speaker 11: Mark Zuckerberg, taking with them all their job creation, all
- 36:50Speaker 11: their innovation. It's all going out the door to the
- 36:52Speaker 11: states who are welcoming people who want to create wealth.
- 36:56Speaker 3: Okay, not California. You know.
- 36:59Speaker 11: The greatest stat of all is that if you want
- 37:01Speaker 11: to rent a U haul one way from California to Texas,
- 37:05Speaker 11: it is four times more expensive in that direction than
- 37:09Speaker 11: Texas coming back.
- 37:10Speaker 3: To because no one is doing that. Look, this hurts
- 37:13Speaker 3: my heart, it does. As you know.
- 37:16Speaker 11: I am a long time I live in New York,
- 37:18Speaker 11: but I am a la boy. I am a California
- 37:22Speaker 11: boy at heart, Okay, and it.
- 37:24Speaker 3: Pains me to know and to see.
- 37:28Speaker 11: The destruction of my state, and one of the main
- 37:32Speaker 11: drivers of the ultra wealthy leaving is because they've been
- 37:35Speaker 11: pushing and now they're about to possibly pass a five
- 37:39Speaker 11: percent wealth tax on the ultra ridge.
- 37:42Speaker 3: Now, to be clear, what that is.
- 37:44Speaker 11: You're talking about real estate holdings for businesses. You're talking
- 37:47Speaker 11: about owning the ownership of businesses, and you're talking about
- 37:50Speaker 11: stock portfolios. And for those who don't understand what that means,
- 37:53Speaker 11: that's not an extra five percent tax on your earnings.
- 37:56Speaker 11: What that means is if you own a business that
- 37:59Speaker 11: you haven't realized, it's gains because you're pouring all the
- 38:01Speaker 11: money back of the business. If the if the business
- 38:04Speaker 11: valued at a billion.
- 38:06Speaker 3: Dollars right now. I was told there wasn't going to
- 38:08Speaker 3: be any math on this on this on this interview,
- 38:10Speaker 3: but I guess there's going to be.
- 38:12Speaker 11: You're talking about five You're talking about tens of millions
- 38:16Speaker 11: of dollars that you have to pay because you have
- 38:19Speaker 11: a business, or if you have stockholders you haven't if
- 38:22Speaker 11: you haven't realized the gays in your stock.
- 38:24Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. If you don't have that money, you.
- 38:26Speaker 11: Have to pay that in taxes. No one could do that, Okay,
- 38:29Speaker 11: that's it's a horrific albatross to have on you. And
- 38:32Speaker 11: what that has done is driven people away. Now they've
- 38:35Speaker 11: tried well taxes all over the world and they have
- 38:37Speaker 11: all failed spectacularly.
- 38:39Speaker 3: Okay.
- 38:41Speaker 11: And to be clear again, you know the witch don't
- 38:43Speaker 11: pay their fair share, right, how often do you hear that?
- 38:46Speaker 3: Okay?
- 38:46Speaker 11: Couple of statistics which I think is really really helpful
- 38:49Speaker 11: here is that the top up one percent. I'm gonna
- 38:52Speaker 11: read it the nose because these numbers are important. The
- 38:55Speaker 11: top one percent of earners, right, they pay forty percent
- 38:59Speaker 11: of all They earn twenty percent of all earnings, yet.
- 39:02Speaker 3: Pay forty percent.
- 39:04Speaker 11: The bottom fifty percent pay three percent of all taxes
- 39:09Speaker 11: but earn thirteen percent. Okay, the bottom fIF I'm sorry
- 39:13Speaker 11: these stats, but they're important. The bottom fifty percent pay
- 39:17Speaker 11: four percent of their income in taxes, okay, and the
- 39:19Speaker 11: top one percent they pay twenty seven percent of their
- 39:22Speaker 11: income that they get in taxes. So you tell me
- 39:25Speaker 11: the original p the fairst year. The rich are carrying
- 39:28Speaker 11: this country, okay. And we are doing is you're trying
- 39:31Speaker 11: to make them flee and leave. And by the way,
- 39:35Speaker 11: if it is writ large across the country, they're going
- 39:37Speaker 11: to leave the country also because they just simply can't
- 39:39Speaker 11: afford to do.
- 39:40Speaker 2: It as long as when they move to those red states,
- 39:44Speaker 2: and we're seeing that similar trend from New York as
- 39:47Speaker 2: well to places like Texas and Florida and Tennessee. Just
- 39:51Speaker 2: don't keep voting the same way that you have because
- 39:53Speaker 2: a lot of these people fleeing California keep voting Democrat
- 39:59Speaker 2: in their new home state. Army Horowitz, thank you so
- 40:02Speaker 2: much for your time tonight.
- 40:03Speaker 3: Always a pleasure still to come.
- 40:06Speaker 2: An outrageous cheating scandal at the Winter Olympics. Kinsey Schofield
- 40:12Speaker 2: has the details. Welcome back joining me now, celebrity and
- 40:25Speaker 2: royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, Let's start with Prince Harry.
- 40:30Speaker 2: An insider has confirmed to Royal expert Rob Shooter that
- 40:34Speaker 2: Prince Harry is now charging a small fee of fifty
- 40:38Speaker 2: thousand US. Doesn't sound small, but it is for a prince.
- 40:43Speaker 2: This is for speaking appearances. Is a far cry from
- 40:46Speaker 2: the millions he was charging per speech when he and
- 40:50Speaker 2: Megan ditch the royal family back in twenty twenty. It
- 40:53Speaker 2: sounds like the Dukes rivers of gold have dried up Kinsey.
- 40:58Speaker 9: I mean, actions have consequences.
- 41:00Speaker 5: I really have a hard time taking someone seriously that
- 41:02Speaker 5: quits nearly everything he starts, doesn't get along with anyone
- 41:06Speaker 5: in his family, and casually and enthusiastically discusses their drug use.
- 41:11Speaker 9: Truly, what does Prince Harry bring to the table.
- 41:14Speaker 5: I mean it's that royal proximity, which, thanks to Jeffrey Epstein,
- 41:18Speaker 5: has even taken a hit.
- 41:19Speaker 9: I'm surprised anyone would pay him anything.
- 41:21Speaker 2: Seashells Now Historian author Andrew Lowdie has said that King
- 41:29Speaker 2: Charles should abdicate and hand the throne over to Prince
- 41:32Speaker 2: William to save the monarchy and wipe the slate clean
- 41:37Speaker 2: amid the continuing fallout from the Epstein files. Here is
- 41:40Speaker 2: what he had to say.
- 41:41Speaker 1: Do you think that the clamor could literally end King
- 41:47Speaker 1: Charles's reign?
- 41:48Speaker 8: Yes, I think it could. I mean, I think they
- 41:50Speaker 8: just keep that. They seem unable to learn the lessons
- 41:53Speaker 8: of the past. They've tried to shut the story down
- 41:55Speaker 8: for years, to the extent of issuing legal threats against journalists,
- 41:59Speaker 8: strong on pressure to deny them access to royal interviews, etc.
- 42:04Speaker 8: So the King has known about this. The Queen protected Andrew.
- 42:07Speaker 8: The easiest thing would be for the king to abdicate Kindzy.
- 42:11Speaker 2: There is widespread dissatisfaction with how the palace has dealt
- 42:15Speaker 2: with this. They've known about some of these allegations for
- 42:19Speaker 2: around fifteen years or more.
- 42:23Speaker 9: You're right, I mean people are very angry.
- 42:26Speaker 5: There are certain people within the palace that have known
- 42:29Speaker 5: about the allegations for quite some time. But are those
- 42:33Speaker 5: people angry with the appropriate monarch. I spoke to Tom
- 42:36Speaker 5: Bauer today, author of Rebel Prince, about King Charles, who
- 42:40Speaker 5: told me that Charles has never gotten along with Andrew.
- 42:42Speaker 5: They were never close. They would he would have no
- 42:46Speaker 5: reason to know what Andrew was up to behind closed doors,
- 42:50Speaker 5: who he was associating with. This is an inherited mess,
- 42:54Speaker 5: and the queen's advisors should have done a better job
- 42:56Speaker 5: of protecting the future of the monarchy by being more
- 42:59Speaker 5: rooe flits towards Andrew sooner.
- 43:01Speaker 9: I really have sympathy for the king here.
- 43:05Speaker 2: You would think the future king would be briefed about
- 43:09Speaker 2: these sorts of allegations. If people were coming forward and
- 43:13Speaker 2: threatening legal action. We're saying these rumors were circulating, surely
- 43:19Speaker 2: the future monarch would be advised, given that at some
- 43:23Speaker 2: point they're going to be taking on this responsibility, it
- 43:27Speaker 2: seems a very bizarre way of running things at the Palace.
- 43:31Speaker 2: Joe Rogan, on the other hand, has revealed that in
- 43:33Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, he received an unwonted invitation to meet Jeffrey
- 43:38Speaker 2: Epstein via one of the guests on his show. Here
- 43:41Speaker 2: he is discussing what happened with Cheryl Hines.
- 43:47Speaker 6: I'm in the files for not going.
- 43:48Speaker 9: Jeffrey Epstein was trying to meet with me. This was
- 43:50Speaker 9: like twenty seventeen.
- 43:51Speaker 6: One of my guests was trying to get me to
- 43:53Speaker 6: meet him. I was like, are you high?
- 43:55Speaker 11: What are you talking about?
- 43:58Speaker 2: Joe Rogan is a long from the former Prince Andrew.
- 44:02Speaker 2: He could not be tempted to meet with Epstein, Kinsey,
- 44:06Speaker 2: I don't think Joe Rogan is the type of man
- 44:08Speaker 2: who can be bought or susceptible to the likes of
- 44:13Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein.
- 44:15Speaker 5: Yeah, and this is just a friendly reminder that just
- 44:17Speaker 5: because someone is mentioned within the dog email drop, it
- 44:20Speaker 5: doesn't mean they're actually guilty of anything Epstein related.
- 44:24Speaker 9: You know, he was pursuing a relationship with Rogan.
- 44:27Speaker 5: Rogan wasn't interested and Rogan is there still name dropped.
- 44:31Speaker 5: I'm so glad he told that story to put that
- 44:34Speaker 5: distance between him and the convicted sex offender, because some
- 44:37Speaker 5: people can't separate fact from fiction, and these documents have
- 44:40Speaker 5: made people crazy.
- 44:44Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the same you could argue for Donald Trump,
- 44:47Speaker 2: his name's in the files, but it's in the files
- 44:50Speaker 2: confirming that he was talking to authorities about Jeffrey Epstein
- 44:55Speaker 2: and Gilain Maxwell, encouraging them to investigate and charge them.
- 45:00Speaker 2: This was before Jeffrey Epstein was convicted of being a pedophile. Okay, Kinzy,
- 45:05Speaker 2: let's talk about the Winter Olympics and nouieg and biathletes
- 45:09Speaker 2: Sterla home leg Grid has caused quite a stir after
- 45:13Speaker 2: publicly and tearfully admitting to cheating on his girlfriend following
- 45:18Speaker 2: his bronze medal win. He had plenty to say, Kinzy,
- 45:23Speaker 2: do we know much more about the status of this
- 45:26Speaker 2: relationship as the ex girlfriend taken him back?
- 45:30Speaker 9: Absolutely not.
- 45:31Speaker 5: She's not buying the grand gesture the Olympic medalists. Axe
- 45:35Speaker 5: says it's hard to forgive after his cheating, accusing him
- 45:39Speaker 5: of turning their break up into an Olympic spectacle. According
- 45:42Speaker 5: to the tabloid Piji that spoke to her, she stressed
- 45:45Speaker 5: she wanted to remain anonymous.
- 45:47Speaker 9: She says even a.
- 45:48Speaker 5: Worldwide declaration of love isn't enough to repair the betrayal.
- 45:55Speaker 3: Good on her.
- 45:56Speaker 2: I've got to say, I don't know who this woman is,
- 45:58Speaker 2: but I am a fan and I had to look
- 46:01Speaker 2: online at some of the commentary, and I've got to
- 46:05Speaker 2: say the Sisterhood are telling her to stay away because
- 46:08Speaker 2: this guy could not stay faithful Kinsey for even three months.
- 46:12Speaker 2: He explained in depth what happened here. Apparently met the
- 46:15Speaker 2: love of his life six months ago, cheated with her,
- 46:18Speaker 2: on her within three months, and she kicked him to
- 46:22Speaker 2: the curb. Now, I want to ask you about the
- 46:25Speaker 2: TV ratings around the Super Bowl. We heard a lot
- 46:28Speaker 2: of fake news about it being the most watched halftime
- 46:31Speaker 2: show ever, but that doesn't seem to be accurate because
- 46:35Speaker 2: it seems to be quite a dip in the audience numbers.
- 46:38Speaker 2: Nearly ten million people stopped watching the Super Bowl during
- 46:43Speaker 2: the halftime show. Tell me about what these figures reveal, Kinsey.
- 46:49Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the halftime show fumbled some, but TV
- 46:52Speaker 5: specifically reports only twenty six point five million Households watch
- 46:56Speaker 5: down thirty nine percent from last year's Kendrick Lamorrisat. Footage
- 47:00Speaker 5: from inside the stadium, which I know you've seen on
- 47:02Speaker 5: social media, shows a crowd that appeared very underwhelmed, and
- 47:07Speaker 5: analysts noted viewership dropped to eighty eight percent during the performance,
- 47:11Speaker 5: suggesting a notable chunk of the audience tuned out. And
- 47:14Speaker 5: that's one of many organizers of these types of statistics.
- 47:19Speaker 5: I just think it's the most significant one now.
- 47:23Speaker 2: Kinsey Jill Zarin, I think that's her. Hey, you pronounce
- 47:27Speaker 2: her and I've never heard of her, I've got to say.
- 47:28Speaker 2: But she was left stunned by her sudden firing from
- 47:33Speaker 2: A's upcoming reunion series The Golden Life, after she savage
- 47:38Speaker 2: bad Buddies super Bowl performance, branding it the worst halftime show. Ever,
- 47:44Speaker 2: how can that get you sacked? Surely you are entitled
- 47:47Speaker 2: to that opinion.
- 47:49Speaker 5: Yeah, and keep in mind, this new e show is
- 47:52Speaker 5: a basically it's a reboot of the Housewives from Bravo.
- 47:57Speaker 5: I'm actually pretty shocked by this story. Reality housewives aren't
- 48:00Speaker 5: necessarily known for socially acceptable behavior.
- 48:03Speaker 9: These are the same women that flip dinner tables.
- 48:05Speaker 5: Over and a source close to Jill asked, if someone
- 48:09Speaker 5: was offended, why couldn't this have been a teachable moment
- 48:12Speaker 5: for the program? Why couldn't this have been a storyline?
- 48:14Speaker 5: I completely agree. We don't debate anymore. That's not healthy.
- 48:18Speaker 5: This woman was just fired for saying what half the
- 48:21Speaker 5: country was complaining about, and I think it will hurt
- 48:24Speaker 5: this reboot.
- 48:26Speaker 2: Well, if it's the same mob behind the Housewives franchise,
- 48:30Speaker 2: I'm not shocked because they are super woke, super left,
- 48:35Speaker 2: and obviously they don't tolerate a diversity of views. Kinsey Schofield,
- 48:39Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time tonight, and that's
- 48:42Speaker 2: all the time we have. Don't go anywhere. Newsnight is
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