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Dear Movies, I Love You: Halloween Costumes and Bones and All (2022) · Spooky Season Podcasts 🎃

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Casey O. Brains.
• 0:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, Millie D... Ooh. That's a good one. Millie D.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Destroyer.
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: Chewbacca. Chewbacca. Chupacabra. Hi.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Hi. I think last year, didn't we come up with
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: Halloween-themed names?
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: I think we did. Casey O'Briens is good. I think
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: that was what I came up with last year.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to say that was. DeChupacabra is good, though.
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: Millie DeChupacabra, I think that's pretty good. I love it.
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: I think that's pretty good.
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: That might be a legal change, actually.
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, cool. Year-round.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: I'll let you know.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: I like that. How are you in this Halloween season
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: that we're in?
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, you know, I'm just hanging out. You know what's
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: funny is that I saw this article online the other day,
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: which I don't actually think was written this year. I
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: think it was written last Halloween, but it was from Forbes, which.
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm also like, I guess Forbes weighs
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: in on things like this now and not just like... Money.
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: Money matters for rich guys or something like that?
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: Okay. Fine. Actually, it's... If you go to the article,
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: it's like tagged under health care, which is so funny
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: to me that this is health care. But the title
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: of the article is Halloween may be even lonelier for
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: singles than Valentine's Day.
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: I haven't read this article, but I can totally see why.
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: It's become kind of a couple's holiday. I'm guilty of that.
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: too yes yes and particularly with a costume component it
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: can as an adult it can be kind of like
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: sad to be like i'm gonna put a lot of
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: effort into my little costume for no one you know
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: it can be it can be that can be painful
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: too you know.
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah i think i agree with that it's it's I.
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: Think I don't think that way. I don't think that
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: about other people. But I have been in situations like
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: that where I have felt that about myself. I don't
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: think other people like if you're single and you want
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: to put a lot of effort into a Halloween costume.
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's awesome. But I'm just saying it can
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: be easy to feel that way is what I'm saying.
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: Well, and like I think I think part of it
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: is that when you're younger. everybody's single. So if you
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: dress up and go to a party with other single
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: Halloween attendants, it's kind of like, oh, cool. We're all
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: in the same playing field. Everyone's wearing something goofy or whatever,
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: and then we're all just being goofy together. Whereas I
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: think as you get older, you're like, oh, well now
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going to either be with couples or people with kids.
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: And as a person nearing 50 attending a Halloween party
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: alone in a fussy little idea feels like the reward
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: is not as great, if you know.
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. Totally.
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: But the article gives a multitude of reasons. One of
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: them is that it's cuffing season, which is such a funny...
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: I always thought that term was so funny.
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: Love cuffing season, yes.
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: And it gives the months of cuffing season as October
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: to March. So we have decided that there is an
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: actual season with months that.
• 3:59
  Speaker 2: Start- It's those wintery months, those colder months, because you
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: want to cuddle, you know?
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: That's where cuffing season is.
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I suppose- I think now that I don't have
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: a dog in my life, I might be feeling the
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: effects of cuffing season a little bit more. But honestly,
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: I am kind of okay to be like Kathy Bates
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: in Misery. Just like being in my cabin alone with
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: my plaid shirts and my overall clothes. denim skirt sets
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: I just am okay with that.
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: And you're okay being Kathy Bates in Misery pre-James Caan.
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, sure. Although I would love to smash a man's ankles.
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: I think you know that about me. But yeah, I'm
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: fine with being the old lady in the woods kind
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: of thing to a certain degree. But I do think
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: cuddling is nice in the winter. Um, but so they,
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: they say, okay, cuffing season also like people have seasonal
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: affective disorder.
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: Totally.
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  Speaker 1: Um, and then I think the biggest one was that
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: it's like a lot of the Halloween propaganda on social
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  Speaker 1: media is definitely geared towards like couples and people's kids
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff, which I totally agree. And, um, Yeah,
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: I think the couple costume stuff, I think, gets under
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: people's skin. And it's also like everybody assumes that everybody's
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: having the best time ever on Halloween, even though that
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: might not actually be the case. But it's like Halloween
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: is one of those holidays that really gets in your
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: fucking face. And it's like, look at all the fun
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: we're having.
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: Isn't it great? Yeah. Yeah, I, you know, the couple's costume,
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  Speaker 2: it is tough because I don't think it's rare that
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: a couple's costume, both people are feeling good about what
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: they're doing. Like, I feel like a lot of times
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: the guy is sort of dragged along. into being, you know,
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: part of a couple's costume. Or if it's the guy's idea,
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: I often find that they pick a costume that like
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: sort of humiliates their female partner. A lot of the
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: times this is for heterosexual. Yes.
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: Uh, so either way, I'm like, it's kind of, those,
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: those can be tough too. You know, I know you're
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: talking about loneliness and they're not, you know, feeling loneliness
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: and Halloween, but they're going through their own battles with
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: their couple costumes as well.
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: So, Yes, and there's also, like... There is, like, conversation
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: out there. I Googled this because I was very curious.
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: I Googled, like, what are Halloween red flags with costumes?
• 6:56
  Speaker 1: And there's all this chatter about, like, you know, what are, like,
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: warning signs of, like, your... partner or boyfriend or girlfriend
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: or whoever being like like what is it like through
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: the lens of halloween costumes is going to doom your
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: relationship type of thing and it's so funny because it's
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: like basically like saying oh if you if they don't
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: want you to dress sexy as a sexy blank which
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: is like okay that for sure i totally understand that
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: but it's also like People who get so into their
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: costume that they forget who you are and who they are,
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: and they just go so crazy in the method acting.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: And I have seen that with my own eyes, and
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: it is actually terrifying. Yeah. And I don't know. I mean,
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: it's so funny because I think, so recently I was
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: at a party. It wasn't like a party we're talking about.
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: It was just kind of like a gathering of folks, okay?
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: A gathering of juggalos.
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely juggalo heavy. And I was sitting
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: at this table with a bunch of guys, okay? Some
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: of them married, some of them not, but like all partnered, basically.
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: And I don't know what happened to their wives and girlfriends.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: I think they just went to drink. I don't know.
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: But I was literally sitting around with five guys. And
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting there. I don't know a ton of them
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: too well, so I was just kind of observing. And
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: just listening to their conversations about Halloween was so fucking
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: crazy to me. Listening to them talk And they were
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: all kind of like in various stages of kind of
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: what they were going to do. And it was kind
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: of like, I gathered that there's like two extremes that
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: I think after some reflection... are deeply annoying to me
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: about guys and their halloween vibes okay there's either the
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: one the guy that like is not into halloween whatsoever
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: it is just like going to be a party pooper
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  Speaker 1: about it and is basically like yeah my wife wants
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: to be you know miss argentina from beetlejuice that i
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: just refuse to be beetlejuice or like you know like
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: basically like i'm not doing a couple's costume i don't
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  Speaker 1: want it i'm gonna shatter her dreams and not do
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: anything which i was kind of like okay or the
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: opposite which is the guy that's like i have a
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: full fucking vibe look attitude backstory like they had been
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: waiting to like live out this like cosplay fantasy for
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: an entire year and it's like this is exactly where
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: i'm going to get my stuff and this is what
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: I'm doing, and I'm doing this, and blah, blah. And
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, dude, what the hell is.
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: That, too? Can you name any of these types of
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: annoying costumes? Because I have a very specific costume that
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: happened a few years ago for this type of costume.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I will say this. If it involves upper body
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: nudity at all, like if you're going to be like
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: a Roman soldier or something, or like if you, if,
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: if let's just say it, I'm going to say it.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: If you're like a hot guy and you are like,
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: so fucking ready to do like a half naked Halloween
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: for yourself. I'm like, Hmm.
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I like you.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. I totally hear that. I... There was this costume,
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: and I don't know if you'll know this, but you
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: are from Atlanta, so you might know it. There was
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: a type of guy I saw in L.A. that fancies
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: himself an intellectual, but he also, like, a rugged, like,
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: Indiana Jones type guy.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: And... this type of guy that you find in LA
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: a lot, a lot of them want to be screenwriters.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: They all went as Negan from The Walking Dead. Do
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: you remember Negan, that Jeffrey Dean Morgan character? It was
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: an epidemic.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. It's kind of like vaguely Nicolas Cage-y, almost.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: Kind of, yeah. And he's like kind of a, sharp
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: tuck and badass.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And a lot of guys were.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Strutting around with their jacket and their baseball bat kind
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: of thinking they were all that on Halloween. And it
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: was really funny to me. Oh, God. Yeah.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of those like macho man kind of
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: looks for Halloween that they just get really obsessed with.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: And like, I mean, when I talk about the half-naked guys,
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: it's straight guys. Like, let's get serious.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about straight guys that are, like, married who
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: are just, like, just aching to be, like, hot without any...
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: criticism because that's what really.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: I mean that's like that's the beauty of halloween in
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: general these people want to you know be slutty and
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: sexy on their on halloween with no judgment you know
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: it's like it's a.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: Joke yeah and um but then they just kind of
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: get super into it and especially like the more drinks
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: that they have where they just kind of hold court
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: and then like are confronting you with their hotness in
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: a way that's kind of like okay dude like I'm
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: not trying to objectify you, but I know you want
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: me to because you're just shaking your fucking man tits
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: in my face.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: And then, of.
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: Course, you're doing a bad accent or whatever, depending on
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: who you are. And it gets so sloppy. Yeah. But
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just feel like there has to
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: be some kind of middle ground for these boyfriends. You
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: know what I love? I love either a classic Halloween
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: look that is kind of... non-specific you know we've talked
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: about this like a vampire or a mummy but not
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: dracula you're just a vampire yeah i love.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: The classic the kind of iconic halloween costume looks yeah
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: a frankenstein.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah or like a mummy i love a mummy just
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: like a real boring mummy with like toilet paper or
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: whatever around your face that yeah that makes me laugh
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: or kind of like really phoned in something.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: You'll have to look this up online, folks. If you
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: were a 90s kid, you would definitely remember this. But
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: there was this 1-900 number that you'd be able to call,
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: and it was called the freak phone number. Do you
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: remember the freak phone?
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: I don't remember the freak phone.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Okay. I just said, I just say the link. Um,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: it was this kind of like, you know, this was
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: like the big era of like one 900 numbers and
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: you could call and it wasn't just sexual at some point.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: It was like, just like people calling up like random
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: phone numbers and paying like $ 2 a minute to just
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: like talk to someone weird but there was this guy
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: named freddy freaker and he was just like this weird
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: looking alien guy.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: And i was i see it right here okay i
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: definitely don't remember this.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: And it was like, the song was like, freak phone
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And I was always like... And I was
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: always laughing about this, even as a kid, because I
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: was like, so you're just going to call a freak?
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: You're just calling a freak and you're like, no one
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: knows what the freak is or what he likes.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: There's no examples of the conversations at all. It's just
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: like a little puppet that's dancing and it's like, 1-800-FREAK.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Talk to the freak.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. it's like what makes him a freak like what
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: is it about him that to me is like what
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: i'm kind of talking about when it says like you
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: like you're like okay this year i don't really have
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: like a huge concept other than i just want to
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: be a freak or i just want to be scary
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: and then you just kind of like walk out of
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: the house in some like jumbled collection of shit. Like
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm going to wear like a bad
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: wig with a trench coat. And then I'm going to
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: put like lipstick on and then maybe like one, you know,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: hand has a glove and you're just like nothing. You're
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: like not a character. You're just like a freak or
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: a murderer. And that to me is so fucking funny.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Like I'm like, oh, that would be so funny if
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: my boyfriend was like, I don't know what I'm going
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: to be. I'm just going to put on a bunch
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: of shit.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I also do like the like, incredibly lazy costume that's
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: like so bad that it's funny yeah like i remember
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: my at a halloween party my friend wore like a
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: red sweatshirt and like put a square of tape on
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: his he was an etch-a-sketch basically and it was just
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: like so lazy and bad that it was like really
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: funny yeah.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: And then it's like, I love when somebody is the
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: freak or the murderer, and they're just like, what are
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: you dressed as? And they're just like, I don't know.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: You're a vibe guy. It's just in the background, like
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: wearing a bad mask from Walgreens or something like that.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: And it's like, you're not even really committed to it.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: You're just in it. I love that. It's like this...
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: beautiful halfway point between refusing to do any Halloween thing
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: at all and then being the like overzealous maniac that
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: like wants people to look at his body glitter or
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: something like that. You know what I mean? Yeah. I
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: don't have any problem really with any other Halloween choices,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: except when it comes to straight guys.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: And I don't know why.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I think it was because I was just sitting at
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: this table and I was just like listening to this
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: fucking stupid conversation. And I was just like, what, what
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the hell is this? Like, like what are their wives
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: think of this? Like what is, you know, what are
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: they thinking about? But anyway, I just had to voice
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: opinions about these choices. Or a lack of choices, you know, still.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: So anyway, on this topic, though, I have to ask you.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: We're very close to Halloween. Do you have anything you're
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: going for?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I think... You know, I think everyone's going as
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: a witch in the family and I think I'm going
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: as their black cat.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's cute.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: So it is pretty low effort, but it's, you know, cute.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And people will know what I am. Yeah.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: You know, that's a classic Halloween costume.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. So this is kind
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: of Patience's first year really being able to trick or treat.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: And she is very excited. So that'll be really fun.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. I remember the first year that we
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: took my oldest nephew, Henry, to Halloween. We went to
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the mall.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: And we dressed him as a little vampire. And we
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: put that little triangle on his... We slicked his hair back.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: We put a little triangle on his forehead. And then
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I made him this medallion to go on his neck. And...
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I swear to God, Casey, those pictures will randomly pop
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: up on my iPhone or whatever and be like, remember this?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: And I squeal every time I see them. And it's
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: like the most precious, one of the most precious memories
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I ever have of my nephews. So that first Halloween, honestly,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: is like, mwah, beautiful. You'll always remember it.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, we're excited. Yeah, and she's and it's funny because, like,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: we've had a lot of trick-or-treaters the last couple years.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Little kids don't know how to say trick-or-treat anymore. Like,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: we'll be like, what do you say? And they're like, candy.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay. And so we have been really practicing
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: with patients that you open the door, trick-or-treat, and you
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: yell at the adult. So, uh.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I'm really glad that you're, you know, maintaining the tradition
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: of saying, trying to realize that kids.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I just feel like parents don't tell the kids now, like,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you gotta say trick or treat. They're probably like, oh,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that's antiquated. But no. No. You gotta say it. Get
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: your candy.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: You have to say it. Because otherwise, if you just
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: hold out a bag with saying nothing, I mean, that's
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: fucked up.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Very, very fucked up. Well... Oh, Millie, we got a
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: lot to talk about today.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: We do, we do.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: We're talking about a movie, a spooky movie, called Bones
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: and All from 2022.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Luca Guadagnino? Is that how you say it?
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: The most prolific filmmaker of our time.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Is he really?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, he has made... Let me see. How many
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: movies has he... Guess how many movies he's made in
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the last five years. Since 2021.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: One.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: How many movies has he made? Guess.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Since, oh, okay.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: From 2021 through now.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, so that leaves out Suspiria? Call Me By Your Name?
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Right? Let's see here.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like that was- Yes, that does leave those out.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I would say in the last five years, he's made
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: five movies.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Let's see. One, two, three. four, five. You're right.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I am right.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Wow. He's made bones and all challengers queer after the hunt.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: And then, uh, he has that movie. What is it?
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Artificial that, you know, that movie that's coming out about
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: chat GBT.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Artificial.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: But that's like a crazy amount of movies in five years. Yeah.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Who does he think he is? Joe D'Amato? I mean,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: come on.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I, um, I, I can't wait to talk
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: about this movie because I saw it when it came
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: out and, you know, I had little, a little thought
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: or two about it. I think I posted a review
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: on my letterboxd.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: When I saw it. I didn't even see it. So
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I don't even know where you're coming from.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll, I'll tell you about it. I'm sure. But, uh,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Saying it again, I gotta say, it feels like I'm
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: having a practical magic moment. I'm like, I kinda like
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: this more now.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Dang.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: We'll get into it. Exciting. This is our hometown horror
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: month where we're talking about movies that are set in
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: the states of Minnesota and Georgia. Mine and Millie's respective homes.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: This was in Minnesota less than I thought it was
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: going to be.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say. I was like, it
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: kind of went to Minnesota for a little bit.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think people were like, oh yeah, it's like
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the center of the movie. And in some ways it is. Like,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: it is their destination in the movie. Yeah, I'd say so.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: It's sort of a focal point. But I guess I
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: was excited, too, because I heard that it specifically took
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: place in Fergus Falls, which more on that later.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, please.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: But yeah, bones and all. I'm excited to talk about it.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: And then we're going to do some top four tarot again.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: We must. We simply must.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: We simply must. We have too many people who want
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: us to read them to filth, I guess.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: We've gotten like over 50 emails and it's stressing me out, frankly,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: how many we've gotten. And I don't know if we're
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: going to have an, we have to keep making this
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: podcast in order to get to all of these. Yeah.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Plus we do have a couple of like updates
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: from prior tarot victims who weighed in on what we said,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: which I think is also really fun.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: So we're going to do all that. Stay tuned. It's
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: going to be a fun, spooky episode. You're listening to
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Dear Movies, I Love You.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Dear movies, I love you And I've got to know
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: if you.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Love me too Yes or no Check the box below Yes, yes, yes.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: This is Dear Movies, I Love You. This is a
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: podcast for those who are in a relationship with movies.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: My name is Millie DeCherico.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: My name is Casey O'Brien.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And like we just said, literally, we are doing an
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: episode today all about the great state of Minnesota for
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: about 15 minutes.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Seven minutes.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, seven to 15 minutes. It's called Bones It All
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: from 2022. Directed by Luca Guadagnino. As part of our
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: month-long Halloween salute to our home states, which are Minnesota
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and Georgia, respectively. And it's Casey's Week. This is his
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: second selection. And, yeah, we're going to talk about it. Listen!
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: There were slim pickings for Minnesota. Was there really? Yes,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: there were. So this might have been a little bit
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: of a stretch, but I think I picked quality over accuracy. No.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I totally agree. And I will tell you, as a
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: programmer who frequently has dilemmas such as this one, it counts.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: If they are presenting the... section of the film as
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: being in Minnesota or, you know, whatever, either shot or
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: based in Minnesota, then it counts as part of this.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: So, and it is like I mentioned, it is kind
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: of like a focal point. It's like, they're trying to
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: get to Minnesota.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: And, and the events there are very important. It's not
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: just like a drive through state in the movie. Cause
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: they're driving through a lot of States. They are in
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: this movie. So, Yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I was actually thinking about, like, have I driven through
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: some of these states? And I feel pretty confident, and
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I have. I've been to Iowa. I know that you have,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: but for me, driving through Iowa is like driving through,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: you know, Neptune or something. It's like something you can't
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: even imagine as somebody from the South sometimes, you know?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Really? I feel like it. Or like.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I did this road trip one time many, many years ago,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: which I was basically kind of in this area of
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the world. Like it was like it started in.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Kansas, maybe.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: And then it went like.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Actually, I don't know.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know America at all. I got to look
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: at the states.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I've done the I've done the drive from Los Angeles
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: to Minnesota. A few times. Yeah. And it does get
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: a little tough in the Nebraska, South Dakota, Iowa, Kansas region. Yeah.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: It's pretty flat.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, I think it was Kansas to Iowa to Nebraska,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: then went to South Dakota, cut a left, went through Wyoming,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: was in Idaho for like a night, and then went
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: back through Wyoming, And then we flew out of Denver,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: What is this trip? Dude, I don't know. What are
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: you doing?
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll just tell you. I was with a friend
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: who was doing stand-up comedy. So, you know, sometimes that
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: gig takes you to some weird-ass places.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: But it was ultimately, like, super fun because it felt
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: so far away from anything. Like, I've done road trips before.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: like crazy in my life, but primarily through the South.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: And then I've driven across the country, you know, twice,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I guess from LA and then back, back from LA,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: but I've never been in that part. Like the upper, um,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: my neck of the woods, upper Midwest. Is that what
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: you would call it?
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You could say that. I, uh, I'll get into
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: it more when we talk about the movie, but I
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: thought this movie was crazy. well done in terms of
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: the representation of like the Midwest. Like it felt pretty
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: accurate in terms of like small town Midwest. And I've
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: never really seen that in a movie before, to be honest.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like, This sounds fucked up, but I feel
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: like the only other time I saw it was like
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Making a Murderer, the Netflix documentary. I'm like, you know,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: like more small town, rural. You don't see that type
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: of representation in movies, particularly like Midwestern, the Midwestern version
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: of that. So I kind of enjoyed seeing that in
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: this movie.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, Um, yes, yes.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: But Millie, should we get to our film diary?
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: We should actually.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, cool. Okay. Please open it up. Uh, it's very heavy. My,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: my arms are tired. Yes, professor.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: My book is open. Please open your books to page. Um, um, Shit,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: you saw a big one. That's a big title.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like it is.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I'll go first. I saw that. Yeah, go ahead.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I just wouldn't have expected this from you, actually.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I saw Mortal Kombat 2 from 2026, the sequel that
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: America was clamoring for. I saw the first one in theaters,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: like the first Redux one from 2021. in theaters and
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I completely forgot all of it. And the main character
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: of that, I'm going to spoil this movie. Who gives
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: a shit? The main character who we spend the whole
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: first movie following his journey. He dies in the second
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: one in such an unceremonious fashion. I was like, Oh
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: my God, do they hate this actor? I mean, it
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: was like, Crazy. It wasn't even at the beginning of
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the movie. It was like kind of halfway through and
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: his head just gets absolutely squashed. And you're like, and
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: there's no real drama around it. It was very strange.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: And this was not very good. This was no Resident Evil. Yes.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: No kidding.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, I'm looking at the cast list.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know one person.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: You know, Carl... Not Carl Urban. What's his name? Carl.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Carl Urban. Johnny Cage.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Carl Urban.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: How do I know him?
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Keith Urban. What's he in? He was in the Star
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Trek movie. He's in Lord of the Rings. Okay.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: These are two IPs that I have no relationship with.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Okay. Then maybe you don't know this guy. You might
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: not know this man. He's the main character of The Boys.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Have you ever watched The Boys? No. So, yeah, I
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: guess you know what? You don't know this guy. I
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: was wrong.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: If he, in fact, was married to Nicole Kidman and
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: was a country singer, I'd definitely know him. But I
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: don't think he is at all. Oh, wait. I know
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: who Joel McHale is, but he doesn't have a character name.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Who is Joel McHale?
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: He used to.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Host the soup.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, you know this.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I know. I know him, but I don't recall his
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: face in Mortal Kombat 2.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I just see him on the cast list, but he
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: has no character name.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he was really in this movie.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe he was on a TV in a bar.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: See, any time this happens where a major motion picture
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: comes out in a movie theater that was created and
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: made by a major motion picture studio and there's no
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: person in it that I know, I'm like, I feel
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: like I'm living in an alternate dimension. Because I'm like,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: how is this even possible?
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: There's no.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: And it only happens with deep action movies. Sometimes where
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't know any of these folks. Well,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I also see, okay, I'm looking down really deep down
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the cast list. His name is Damon Harriman. He was
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: in Justified. He played.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Dewey Crow. It says his character's name is
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Quan Chi. Are you telling me that this white man
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: is playing an Asian guy?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I think he plays like some demonic person. He's he
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't he's not playing Asian to my mind. This this
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: actor played he plays Charles Manson in two different properties. Oh,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: that's right.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Of course. I forgot.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: He's not in the movie very much either.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: So real quick, just just out of curiosity, did you
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: play Mortal Kombat when you were a kid? No.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: So you have no ties to this movie franchise?
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I kind of liked the original Mortal Kombat movie from
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: the 90s. I thought that was kind of fun and scary.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: And it used to kind of scare me as a kid.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Like the idea that these people were competing in something
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: to the death. And they were kind of pulled into
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: it against their will. I was frightened by that notion.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: So I've always had kind of a soft spot for
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Mortal Kombat movies. I think that's what brought me to
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: this one. No, I didn't play... I know that there's like,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: get over here. I know that's part of it, but.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, finish him.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you like Mortal Kombat? Did you play? Yes. Yes, sir.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I was in high school when this came out, and
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I remember being in my friend Liz's basement. We played
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Mortal Kombat constantly. I thought it was scary, because honestly... Yeah,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: it's kind of scary. If I remember, this was... Like
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: one of like I remember when it came out, everybody
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: was like, this is such a violent video game because
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: they're like ripping people's fucking spines out of their bodies
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and stuff. And it was scary. It had scary music,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: scary fonts. I always played my character that I loved
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: to play was Raiden. Okay. Raiden wins. That's all I
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: wanted to hear in my, in my high school life
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: is Raiden wins.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, but I've never seen these movies,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: so I don't know. I should go.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I think you can skip this.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: That's all I watched, though, this last week was Mortal
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Kombat 2. I had to take a breather after that one.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, great. I'm actually kind of proud that you
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: went there. So good for you.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I like watching movies like this. Yeah. It's fun. It's good.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: So what about you, Millie? What do you got?
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I had a very gentle week, unlike you. I
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: was definitely in a mode where I was like, I
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: want to be surrounded by the cozy comforts of women.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: wearing barn jackets.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: And, um, I don't, there's only one director who can
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: deliver that in just the right way.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: You know, it's you fucking know it. And so I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: watched certain women, 2016 directed by Kelly record. That's right.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: That is the aforementioned director who is very good at
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: making movies and In the Pacific Northwest with people wearing
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: barn jackets and things like that. Yes. Huge fan of Kelly.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: But for some reason, I never saw this movie.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny? I haven't seen The Mastermind, which
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: is her most recent movie. I haven't seen Showing Up,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: which came out in 2022. But then Certain Women is
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: the only other one I haven't seen. I've seen every
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: other of her movies.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: So that one. So certain women is actually a blind
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: spot for me, too.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it was I had heard about it for
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: a long time. I think a lot of people were like,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: this is sort of the introduction to Lily Gladstone, the
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: actress who my love. I think she's. Stunning and wonderful
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: and like smart and. adorable and everything. She's so great.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: And her character in this movie is very interesting to me.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: But it's based off of short stories that were written by,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: is it Maylee Malloy? Okay. But the movie kind of
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: feels that way. It's kind of these like vignette stories.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: And, you know, there's like The first story features Laura Dern.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: She plays a lawyer. The second features Michelle Williams. She
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: plays this kind of, I don't know, architect or home designer.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: And then the third features Lily Gladstone and Kristen Stewart.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: And they're all taking place in this town essentially, or
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: like this area of the world, basically in Montana, these
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: like small towns in Montana.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: And it is vibey as fuck. God, I loved it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: It was like the clothes, like Michelle Williams outfit in it.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: It's very simple. It would be very easy to achieve,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: but just like, I'm in this moment where I'm like,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I needed that inspo.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: It was like a chambray shirt under, a wool sweater
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: under a chore jacket with like boots and a scarf.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, yes, this is like the fashion that
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I'm living for right now. Um, it was beautiful. I
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: thought it was a very beautiful movie. Um, you know,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: it was about women in their, in their lives, which
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I loved. And so, yeah, it felt good to go
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: back and kind of check that out.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: The woman who wrote that book, the stories that this
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: movie is based on, Maylee Malloy, is sisters with Colin Malloy.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: From the Decembrists. From the Decembrists. Yeah. Who is married
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: to Carson. Ellis, who is a famed children's book writer
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: and illustrator and has maybe my favorite children's book of
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: all time. Oh, really?
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: What's the book?
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: The book is called Do Is Talk, which is a
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: sentence in a made up insect language. And it's really delightful.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: and funny and uh beautiful and so a lot of
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: talent going on in that family wow.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: So wait that's your favorite children's book is that is
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: her book.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah i would say it's one of my yeah
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: my favorite books.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Can i tell you my favorite children's book please it's
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: called a chair for my mother It was written by
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Vera Williams. I think it was from the early 80s.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I got introduced to this book as a little girl.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: It was basically about a group of Latina women who
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: live together. And I love the art. I love the story.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this looks great.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I get this book for literally every one of my kids' daughters.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: this is like my gift when they're born. I'm like, oh,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: here's this book that I love.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Ours must've gotten lost in the mail.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what happened to that.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: No, I should actually send it to patients because- I'm
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: just joking, you don't have to do that.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I mean, I should. The problem is,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: is that like, for a while it was like out
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: of print.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? Okay.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was like, I think the last time
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I got this book um was for one of my
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: friends out in la and i was having a hard
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: time finding a copy of it and then i think
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: they re-released it or something uh and then they were
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: obviously like oh we have it on kindle fuck that
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: good yeah why am i i don't want it on
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: kindle i'm trying to give it physically to to a
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: little girl that needs it that needs the story so
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: anyway i know that's a big aside but i um
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I just had to know what your favorite children's book was,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and apparently.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: It's this one. I do. I love this one. What else?
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: All right. You got another movie on your list?
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just real quick. I finally watched the Mary Oliver documentary.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: It's called Mary Oliver Saved by the Beauty of the World.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Another gentle story that I needed.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Some of her poems are just too beautiful to read. Oh,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: they make me cry.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: They make me cry too. And there's actually a part
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: of the documentary. They have a lot of famous people
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: in the documentary. And there's a part like where Stephen
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Colbert is basically so emotional reading one of her poems
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: that he can't like get through it. And I was
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: like rattled by that. It was so, but I will
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: say the one thing that just truly made my.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Heart.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Hurt was that mary oliver was huge dog dog owner
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: dog lover we.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Have the dog book yeah dog poem book yeah and.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: She had a little crusty white dog looked like it
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: could have been a bijon or maybe like a malty
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: poo or and it it was all over that documentary
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: there was so many pictures of her with this little
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: white dog, looked just like my old dog, Sophie. And
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I was like... I felt like I got hit by
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: a truck. I was just so... I missed my dog
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: so much. Of course. Anyway, it's a lovely documentary. I mean, it's...
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: How could it not be? It's like a very... John
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Waters is in it? I didn't realize... They were friends,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, and he was really good friends with
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: her and her partner. So that was fun to have him,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: to see him in this.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Anyway, yeah, those are my two entries for this week.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Love it. Let's close it up. I'm watching fucking Mortal
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Kombat 2 and you're watching a documentary on Mary Oliver.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Listen, that's range, baby. Look at this podcast.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Jesus.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: We cover the spread, man.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I guess so.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: What, are you depressed that you didn't watch something more thoughtful?
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just like, I'm the idiot of this podcast.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I'm the dunce. Whatever.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the opposite where you watch something that's like
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: super indie, obscure, made by like a very interesting new director.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm watching Dirty Dancing for the 10th time. So
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like. It flips sometimes. Don't worry about that.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: All right. Let's talk about this movie. Bones and all
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: from 2022. Director Luca Guadagnino. We've talked about a little bit.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Screenplay by David Kaganich. It's based on the book Bones
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: and All by Camille DeAngelis. The genre of this movie,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I would say, is a cannibal movie. It is a
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: period piece. It takes place in the 80s. It's a
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Midwest movie. Road trip movie.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say road movie.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: What else?
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Love story.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Love story. Some comps. Trouble Every Day. That's a good one. Yeah. 2001. 2001.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Texas Chainsaw Massacre, just because they're kind of like eating
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: people out in the country. I put, this isn't really
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: this type of movie at all, but I put Dirt
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Fan from 1982 for people eating reasons.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Kind of similarly, I kind of thought a little like
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Shades of Dinner in America, which we talked about recently.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Sure, sure, sure, sure. I see that.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Punks in love kind of thing.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Uh... Bonnie and Clyde.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I could say that, too.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Well, what is Raw? I've never seen Raw.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: You've never seen Raw?
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Basically, it's about a girl who has sort of the
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: same condition as the characters in this movie in that she, like,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: has this craving to eat people.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Ah.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Like... she has this like desire to eat people and
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: sort of gets in sort of similar situations, but it
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: is only triggered when she eats meat. Her mom is like,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: don't eat meat. You can't eat meat. And then she
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: accidentally eats meat and it triggers this in her.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: That's a French movie from 2016.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Okay. It's the, it's the writer director of Teton.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. Okay.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: And it's all takes place at a veteran, veterinary school.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: You're becoming vets. It's kind of a wild movie. It's
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: more wild than Bones and All. It's not romantic. Okay.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: But it's more of like a coming of age movie. Okay.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: It's really good. But Millie, what's your personal connection to
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: this movie?
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I saw this movie originally when
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: it came out because I was sort of like, yeah,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I think I like Luca Guadagnino's vibe. I mean, the
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: thing is, is that there are certain movies of his
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: that I love, and then there's others that I'm kind
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: of like, eh, on. I mean, I thought Challengers was genius.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I still think about that song that plays
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: over and over and over again. I thought that was
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: a genius movie. I liked his take on Suspiria. I
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: thought it was actually really cool and interesting.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I did too, for the most part.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I liked it. Yeah. Um, but then there was a couple, like, I,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I think when I first saw Call Me By Your Name,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, yeah. And then I kind of,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I think I kind of, uh, burned out on the,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: a bit when it came out. But then when I
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: watched Queer, I thought it was kind of boring. So
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay. But I mean, I love his
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: sort of vibe, his influences. I think I just kind
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: of generally like what he does. So that's kind of mine.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I think I'm in the exact same boat. Some of
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: them I'm like, eh, that was okay. But others I'm like, oh,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: that was really good. But I appreciate him because he's
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: always trying shit. He's always like, And he's got, like,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: pretty interesting range while still maintaining an identity. You know,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: it's like he's done horror movies and, like, romantic movies.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: And I like... I like what he does. He seems
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: very curious. He seems like a curious filmmaker, and I
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: like that about him.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's this kind of, like, lusciousness to his
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: movies that I really like. Like, I think it's, like,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: the color saturation or just sort of, like, everything about...
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, they're really, like... Sensual.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Did you ever see I Am Love? Yes. That is
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: like a very sumptuous... And same with Call Me By
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Your Name. I like Call Me By Your Name. Call
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Me By Your Name a lot. But....
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I find him interesting and I'm delighted that he's getting
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: so much... He is just pumping out movies. And I
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: like that someone like him is getting the funding to
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: make these movies. Frequently.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: So... Uh, my personal connection, I was like a little
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: annoyed in this movie came out. Cause I was like,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I had just seen raw. And like I mentioned, it's
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: kind of like the same conflict is that she has
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: this issue that she like has a craving to eat
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: people and trying to deal with that. And I was like,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: that's it sort of was like, this seems sort of similar,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: but after watching the movie, they're completely different movies and So, um,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: and I will say, uh, the main towns, the main
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: town that they go to in the movie is, is
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Fergus Falls, which is near, kind of near where my parents'
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: cabin is.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Ah, okay.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: And so I've been there a few times and I
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: was just there this summer and went to their like
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: record store. I actually have a, I have a T-shirt
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: that I'm not wearing for the Viking Cafe, which is
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: this kind of famous old-timey diner that's beautiful and wood-paneled.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: That's in Fergus Falls. Lakeshore Vinyl from... Do you see
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: this sticker? Lakeshore Vinyl. I went there and bought some vinyl.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: So it is like a cool little artsy city, sort of.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: It has some stuff going on kind of way out there.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: It's like northwestern Minnesota. And so... I was like excited
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: that this took place there, even though there's only like
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: one or two scenes there. But it was sort of
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: fun to see it feature because it's such a small city.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I think the population is like 14000 people. So I
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: was sort of excited that it was like this little
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: town that I know was featured in this movie. So, yeah.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: And then they also mentioned that they met in Mankato, the.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: main character's parents met in Mankato and that's my dad's hometown.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Whoa.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: So that was kind of fun to hear in a
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: movie too. Yeah. So that's, that's like the extent of
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: my Minnesota talk about this movie. But, um, yeah. Should
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I do the synopsis?
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I think you must.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Okay. So this is like a road trip movie. They're
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: really driving all over the damn place, but The main
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: character is Maren. She's played by Taylor Russell. And she
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: is what is called an eater. She has these cravings
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: to eat people. So she's an eater. And she's kind
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: of abandoned by her father after her 18th birthday. So
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: she decides to go to Minnesota to track down her mother,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: who she doesn't remember. On the way there, she runs
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: into the very creepy Sully, played by Mark Rylance, who
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: is also an eater. And I think it's the first
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: time she's ever met another eater. And he kind of
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: teaches her like in a very brief time, like there
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: are other eaters. You can use your nose to smell
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: other eaters. And he's like, this is how I eat people.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I can smell when someone's going to die. I wait
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: for them to die and then I eat them. But
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: she gets a creepy vibe from him. So she runs away.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Eventually she finds Lee, Timothee Chalamet's character, who's also an eater,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: and they fall in love. And eventually they get to
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Fergus Falls, Minnesota to find her mother, but things are
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: not quite what she thought they would be when she
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: shows up there. Things are a little freakier than she thought.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: So we'll get into that and the end of the
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: movie and all that. But yeah. What do you think
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: of these two? Did you like Taylor Russell? Did you
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: like Timothee?
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so here's the thing. You know, I have gone
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: on various records talking about Timothee Chalamet. Like, anybody needs
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: me to talk about him at all at this point.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I actually think that this is probably his best role,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: in my opinion. Maybe Lady Bird.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I think I agree.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: But, you know, like in Lady Bird... He's great because
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: he's a fuckboy, and he kind of plays that very
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: specific type of fuckboy role very well. When I saw
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: him in Lady Bird, which was honestly the first time
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I'd ever seen him in anything, I.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Was like, wow.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: But for some reason, I just felt like he also
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: kind of... captured this, like, very specific type of guy
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: that I remember from my teenage years and 20s. And
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: he's really... He was really good at it. Like, he's
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: really good at being this kind of, like, punk, dirtbag
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: type of guy. But it's sort of sensitive, and.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: He really, like, got me. And I will say, it was...
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: He was definitely... more charming, I suppose, to me this time.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Around more so than the first time. He really, like,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: rattled me a little bit. I was like, wow, okay. Yeah.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Man, did I not, I mean, I feel like I
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: knew a thousand of these guys. This type of guy. Like, also, like, wearing, like,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: a woman's shirt. Like, literally looking the exact same. Dyed hair. Wearing, like,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: a cardigan or, like, a woman's shirt. Yeah. Scrawny. And
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: then also, like, they're being like, oh, his, like, I
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: knew a bunch of guys that were, like, seemed kind
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: of wounded, like, this type of guy. Like, they would
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, his older brother is on heroin or, like,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of other.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: His dad is a murderer.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Or whatever.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: But, like, there's, like, I just, like, knew guys like
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: this that just seemed like, troubled and it was sort of,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: they were sort of scary a little bit. Yeah.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: And they nailed his hair so perfectly. I knew guys
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: that had that kind of like, it was basically like
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: a depressed Mohawk almost like, and it was grown out
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: and like dyed pink from manic panic and just look
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: like shit, but like was also a vibe. It's funny
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: you mentioned that women's clothing thing, because when I first
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: saw this movie, when he kind of comes out with that,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: like grandma cardigan at one point, You remember that? It
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: was like a pearl button, kind of floral, shitty, I mean,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: you know, like thrift store grandma cardigan. I was at
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: first like, oh, God. But then now I'm like, I
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: actually kind of liked it.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: It kind of had a whole gross, crust punk look
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: to him.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to say I thought that the look
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: of this was really good, in like the set design
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: the costume design the makeup because they really made things
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: feel dirty and disgusting in a very realistic way I
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: think a lot of times when we do when people
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: make movies about the past it's sort of a clean
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: past it's like everything is like sort of perfect in
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: sort of an antiquated nostalgic way I thought this made
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: it felt like the past but like Dirty.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Lived in.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: And realistic.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: And lived in. And I really like the places that
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: they lived, like the trailer park where Taylor Russell and
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: her dad lived. And not like gross. You know, nothing
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: felt like gross, but it just felt lived in and
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: soiled and dirty. Yeah. In a really realistic way.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: That added a lot of texture to the movie. Yeah.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I thought Taylor Russell was... gorgeous in this movie. I
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: loved all of her clothes, even if they were fucking
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: dirty grease stains from the truck or whatever. I, Casey,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell ya, it took the will of a
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: thousand Roman soldiers for me to not fucking chop my
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: bangs real short like she had them. I used to
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: have my bangs like that when I was in, like,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: late high school, early college, kept him real short. And,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I obviously at some point thought, okay, that
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: looks stupid. I need to like grow my hair out
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: and be an adult. But I saw her hair and
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my God, the curly curls with
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: those short baby bangs, those little Betty Page micro bangs.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my God, I want to cut
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: my hair like that so bad right now. I still think...
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, there was a moment where I'm like, I
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: actually think I actually want to do it. Like, cut
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: those short things. I mean, I'm like.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: You got to be careful, Millie.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: We don't want to fail video... Don't videotape it, then
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, fuck, I fucked up my hair. Have
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: you ever seen any of those where girls try to
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: cut their own bangs?
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Listen, I.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: TikToks?
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, thank God I didn't have a camera
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: around when I was pulling shit like that.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: And I....
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a moment. I know that I
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: can do anything I fucking want to at any time.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how old I am. But there is
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: a moment where I was like, well, this girl, this
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: movie is 18.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: I'm in my late 40s. I don't know if I
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: can pull off these fucking bangs, but I don't know. TBD.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get a wild hair. Maybe I'll be so
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: lonely on Halloween night that I'll just cut my fucking
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: bang short, man.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I support anything you do, Millie. Thanks.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Appreciate that, friend.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: I support the bangs.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Appreciate that.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Now, you have a question in here about Jessica Harper's character. Now,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Jessica Harper was in the original Suspiria.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: That's correct. And in this, yeah. Go ahead.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: In this, she plays Marin's adopted grandma, who she's never
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: met before.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: And she kind of sneak attacks her to be like, Hey,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: do you know where my mom is? And Jessica Harper's
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: character is not excited to see her. Now you asked,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: does she represent Minnesota old women from the 1980s? You
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: know how there's like the stereotype in the South that
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: like old women and people are nice in general. Like,
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: How you doing, sweetheart?
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: And all that. Midwesterners are the exact opposite. They're not friendly, really,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: in that way. Especially older generations, I feel like. And
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like growing up, all the old women neighbors...
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: I always thought all the old women in my neighborhood
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: were mean. All the women at church were not friendly. And...
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Jessica Harper's character is not nice or friendly. And I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: thought she did represent Minnesota Old Wolf from the 1980s.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: So it was accurate.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was kind of like, you know, I think
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: her version of a Minnesotan, Minnesotan? Did I say that right? Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: I think her version of a Minnesotan grandma from this
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: time period felt it looked similar to like i think
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: 80s southern grandmas with the like hairspray curly hair and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: the dew drop glasses that are like transition lenses and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: cigarette soft pack notice the soft pack always got to
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: be a soft pack of cigarettes But there was like
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: a vibe to her that was very like, yeah, closed off,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: not friendly at all. Like, what the fuck are you
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: doing on my property? And so I just was curious
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: because I think I will say that I think that
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I've always heard a stereotype of, I don't know, I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: guess I'm just assuming everyone is Rose Nyland from the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Golden Girls up there. And now I'm like, actually, they're
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: hardened bitches.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, people complain about moving to Minnesota all
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: the time that it's really hard to break in to
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: social circles because everyone is best friends with people they've
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: known since they were in kindergarten. Oh, wow. And it's funny.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: I have, like, people, like, what would have been my
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: group of friends here probably if I'd stayed, that people
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: I know, they're all really good friends with each other,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: and we all went to kindergarten with each other. But
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: I haven't really, like... kept up with them, but that
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: exists here for me too. Like I would have to
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: become friends with like these people I knew since kindergarten
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: if I were to like join a social group here.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Cuffing season is all year round and it extends to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: friends is basically.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: What you're saying.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm saying.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: What did you think of Mark Rylance's character, Sully. Okay.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: So I said this in the original... When I watched
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: this originally, I wrote on Letterboxd that basically Sully is
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Bobby Peru from Wild at Heart, except he wears khaki pants.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Or shorts.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Where's the line? Where's the line? Am I wrong?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I was like.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: No. never eaten this.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Guy is 100 bobby prue in that like very unsettling
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: way where he's you know talks about himself in the
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: third person right like he calls himself sully at one
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: point she uh the uh marin character is like stop
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: calling yourself by your name or whatever. Yes. You know,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: but like has a fucked up look, you know, some
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: weird shit look.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: And then is kind of like murderous, but has this
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: like weird flirtation to him. It just is like monstrous.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that's Bobby Pruitt.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Mark Rylance. I mean, he's such a great actor. He
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: was awesome. really upsetting. Yeah. Like, there's that shot where
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Taylor Russell's character runs away from him when she first
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: meets him, escapes onto a bus, and she sees him
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: staring at her on the bus. And his look is
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: fucking freaky. I was like, ooh, God.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, he was an incredible... He's an incredible actor,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: and his performance in this was really.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Spooky!
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Can we talk about two other creeps in this movie?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh, please. Okay.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: So... There's a moment where Lee and Marin, which is
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: the Timothee Chalamet and the Taylor Russell characters, kind of
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: meet these two kind of redneck guys who are just
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: hanging out. They got a case of beer. They're like,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: let's party or whatever, right?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: And these two guys are played by Michael Stuhlbarg and
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: David Gordon Green.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Michael Stuhlberg is the father in Call Me By Your Name. Correct.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: And David Gordon Green is a director who I feel
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: like cut his teeth making movies like Bones and all
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: kind of like this is sort of feels like a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: David Gordon Green type movie. Yeah.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: With like rural characters in some kind of horrible situation.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, but it's like poetic rural characters.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: You know, love stories. And so it's just kind of
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: funny that he's in this movie, too, because I don't
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: really think of him.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: As an actor at all. It was kind of nice
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: to see him pop.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Up, actually.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The one thing that I will critique about these
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: two is that, honestly, I cannot buy Michael Stolberg as
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: a killer redneck. I just couldn't do it.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: I think he's a great actor. I agree with you.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: They have him looking like the fucking penguin from Batman Returns,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: like Danny DeVito's penguin. And I was just like, I
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: think he's like such a phenomenal actor and a serious
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: man as well. But I just don't know if this
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: was quite the right fit.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Maybe Luca was just calling in a favor from a friend.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Or maybe he was like, would it be funny
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: if we had this like kind of intellectual New York
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: kind of vibe guy in Texas chainsaw massacre slash motel
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: hell looks, you know, like basically taking some city guy
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: and putting them in the country kind of thing.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: I feel like Luca has done that before. Like kind
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: of like, Oh, wouldn't it be funny if I cast
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: this person as this? And like, the thing I didn't
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: like about Suspiria is that he, Tilda Swinton plays a
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: man in the movie and, And I was like, this
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: is too silly.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Suspiria. But it was like, he kind of likes to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: mix it up casting-wise.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: He has a history.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: You're probably right, actually, now that you say that. But yeah,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: the entire time I was like, there's no fuck away.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I've come across a guy
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: like this once or twice in my life, and I'm like,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: it ain't him. It ain't him. He's too smart-looking, to
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: be honest.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: But the David Gordon Green character, and so the Michael
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Stuhlberg character, he's also an eater. So he, like, smells
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Lee and Marin. But his buddy, David Gord Green, he's
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: not an eater. But he's, like... But I like eating people, too.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: And that was scary. Yeah. That's, like, a scary notion.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Simply for love of the game is why he's here.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about the eating thing. Because,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: you know... This isn't... Like, this whole thing is very
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: interesting to me. So, you know... if I wasn't going
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: to recommend what I'm going to recommend as my employee
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: pick this week, which you'll find out what that is later.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: I was actually thinking about Ganja and Hess, which is
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: a movie from 1973. It's like a vampire, um, addiction
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: metaphor movie that was made by Bill Gunn. I don't know.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: It's a brilliant movie. You guys should see it. Um,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: But this is kind of, I think, what is like
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: running through the film is this kind of idea of
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: the like cannibal addiction metaphor.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, because it is like, I was thinking about this too,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: because it isn't like they eat regular food and they
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: can survive physically just eating regular food. Mm-hmm. It's not
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: like a vampire that needs to suck somebody's blood and
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: they can't eat food. Right. So, and so it is
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: like this alternate hunger, this deeper hunger. And it did
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: feel like very much. And the way like they live
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: their lives and the way they're dressed, it did feel
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: like an addiction, you know, uh, metaphor or like in
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: place for addiction yeah.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Well there was a lot of other things too about
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: it the idea that they were obviously othered in society
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: to the point where they were having to live on
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: the fringes. You know what I'm saying? And I think
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: about Luca Guadagnino being gay and how he has a
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: lot of queer stories in his filmography, obviously. And I
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: was thinking there was something like that in this movie too,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: which is just kind of like, you know, wrapped up
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: in this kind of cannibal package, I suppose.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: But, you know, the whole eater thing is interesting to
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: me because like you said, there isn't like, it isn't
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: like interview with the vampire, which is basically like, I
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: have to suck blood in order to survive. It's really
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: just more of a like, When I have it, it's
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: the most amazing feeling.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: I've ever had in my life. And I crave it
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: all the time. Right. Yeah.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Which is an interesting choice to me.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I also think they make a big point
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: of being like... And it's something that Timothee's character and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Taylor's character are constantly grappling with. They're like, are we
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: bad people? Right. Because... We have these cravings. Like, inherently,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: are we bad because of this? Right. And because of
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: the things we do to, you know, to feed those cravings. Right.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: And ultimately, you feel like they're not bad people, even
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: though they're like murdering and eating people. You know, it's
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: like it's kind of beyond their control. to some degree.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: And I think too, with typical, like kind of vampire mythologies,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: there's like rules to that shit where like, you know,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: you can't suck your own blood or you can't suck
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: the blood of like a person, like a, You know,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: there's rules to, like, you can't suck the blood of, like,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: a certain type of person or, like, somebody in your
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: family or somebody that you turned or whatever. This feels so, like,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: lawless in that way where it's, like, it eventually gets
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: kind of rolled out that, like, people are eating their
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: own body parts off or, like, they're eating their family
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: members and stuff and you're just kind of like, holy shit. Okay,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: this is, like, kind of hardcore. Which makes the kind
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: of feeling of it being this, like, crazy thing to
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: have to be outside of society to just exist in
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: is kind of, you know, cause you know, I think
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: you were asking me the question if he, if I
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: was an eater, like what would I do? And I
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: actually did think this at some point during the movie,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: I did think to myself, fuck, this must be the
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: biggest pain in the ass. I mean, how the hell
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: can you live a normal life being this? And that's,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: I think a big question of the movie. And this
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: is ultimately something that you feel sorry for in the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Taylor Russell character because, you know, she's this young girl.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: She doesn't even understand what the hell is going on.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like one of the first scenes in
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: the movie is that she's like at a sleepover and
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: she's like biting a girl's fingers off, you know, and
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: you're like, I.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Was thinking with that scene, I was like, imagine if
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: you didn't know what this movie was about and you
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: went in and that scene happened. Like she basically is
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: just having like a one-on-one with a friend and she
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: just takes her friend's finger and starts biting it off.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: And it's like pretty scary.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: And like insane.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: And then it's like the family's on the run. Like
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: it's almost kind of like, and it had happened before.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: And so it was kind of like this feeling of
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: like she fucked up again and now they got to
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: go to another town and, you know, live on the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: fringes because she just doesn't, I don't know. I guess
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: she doesn't know how to control it, and she doesn't
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: know about it, which is the impetus for her to
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: go and visit her mom or find her mom so
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: she could figure out who she is. Yeah. Honestly... I'd
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: probably just fucking move to Siberia. I'd move to some
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: place where there's like nobody around and I would be
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Kathy Bates in Siberia. I would just, I'd have to
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: live my own life outside of anyone. Cause I mean,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: how the hell do you do that every day?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like I would totally separate myself from
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: my family. Cause I would be like, I'm afraid I'm
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: going to eat one. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Or eat myself, eat myself. Like that's. Yeah. I would
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: just be like, you know what? I can't be around anybody.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: I really can't. Yeah. Should we talk about that Chloe
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Sevigny scene? Well, yeah.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that it's, I don't know. Spoiler alert,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Spoiler.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: It's revealed that her mom is alive. By the way,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: because when she visits the Jessica Harper character, when she
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: visits her adopted grandma, the grandma at first is like,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: she's no longer with us. As it's revealed, she's no
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: longer with us in the sense that she's in a sanitarium.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: And then they go to Fergus Falls. Is that where
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: the sanitarium is?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: Fergus Falls, yep.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: And they go visit mom. And... you know, disturbing because
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: she's like locked away in one of those creepy like places.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Like again, when you were talking about this movie is
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: so grimy and gritty and yeah, I mean, this was scary.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: This place and the nurse, I noticed the nurse has
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: like this very nice uniform on, you know, but she
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: has a stain and it looks like a blood stain
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Well, and it's revealed, you know, Chloe's the mom and
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: she's missing Chloe. her lower arms, right?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Her hands.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: And she's just, you know, kind of mentally gone, but
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: then has this moment where she kind of, well, you know,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: basically is, you know, the nurse is like, oh, she
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: wrote you a letter. She's kind of been expecting you
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: for many years. And then like, she gets like freaked
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: out and like jumps out of that chair she's sitting in.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: I screamed.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit. That was scary as hell
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: Well, she, she gets this letter and basically the mom
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: is like, I'm sorry that I gave you this. I'm
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: sorry that you all, if you found me, it's because
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: you're also an eater basically. And she's like, I apologize,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: kind of like, I apologize for like that. You had
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: to go through this. Um, but then the letter kind
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: of turns and it's like, we are evil. And I will,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: she says something like, I will do like, we should
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: rid our cell. Like, you need to be rid from
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: this earth because we're evil. Cause you kind of think,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, I wonder if the mom's going
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: to be like, eat me to her daughter. But no,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: she's like, I'm going to eat you. Crazy. And it
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: was very upsetting. I mean, this, this movie is pretty hardcore.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: I was actually kind of like shocked by some, it
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: really goes there. And it's not just because of the violence,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: but it's like, it's, it's dealing with very, very, these
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: are people on the fringes. You see these people in
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: the world and it's dark and they have to experience that.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: The thing I made me think about watching this movie
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: is like these people who live on the fringes who
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: are unhoused or dealing with drug addiction like this, they
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: are in such scary situations all the time. It can't
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: help but mess you up mentally to be in like
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: such horrifying, scary situations at all times.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: Would be, So traumatizing. I think it would make you
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: become a crazy person. Yeah. You know? Yeah.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: And this is the thing is that I think when
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: I watched this movie again, I did think it was so,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was like, there were like legitimately fucked
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: up concepts and scenes and gross stuff happening in this movie.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: That was really like shocking to me. Like when he's
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: out in the cornfield with that one carnival guy, I
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: was like, holy shit, this is hardcore. You should watch
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: the movie and you'll know what I'm talking about.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: Am I right?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: But the thing that I thought was kind of brilliant
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: was that it was kind of balanced with these really
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: beautiful scenes. And a lot of it was, you know,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: based on location. It was like a lot of beautiful nature.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: And I mean, the scene of them when they're on
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: the hillside and they're kind of sitting on those little,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: you know, like, what do you call them? Sleeping bags
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And, you know, and Timothee Chalamet's character Lee
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: is talking about like his father finally about the story
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: behind that. And they're just kind of like, young, beautiful
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: punks in love on this hillside. It's so gorgeous. And,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: you know, it's very emotional.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: And this is probably the best, like you mentioned, Timothee,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: this being Timothee's best role. I think this was like
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: his best scene I've ever seen. Like that scene is
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: really moving. Yeah.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: And it was just so, they were, they're such beautiful people,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: like beautiful, like attractive people. And I was like, this
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: is so gorgeous. And meanwhile, all this other really violent,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: hardcore shit is actually happening too. And I will say,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: I think the thing that really affected me this time
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: was there's a part moving towards the end of the
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: film where they kind of, like, you know, I think
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: at certain points... Marin needs to go like figure herself out.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: And she separates from Lee. She's basically like, I can't
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: be around you. I gotta like go figure out my life.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: And she kind of, they're kind of like separated at
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: a certain point, but then they come back together. And
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: I think that, you know, they're like, we're in love
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: and we have to be together and that kind of stuff,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: which I think is lovely. But when they kind of
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: get back together, they kind of say to themselves, okay,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: let's kind of stop running. Let's just like move to
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: a random town and be like real people. I think
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: is what they call themselves. And there's this whole like
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: sequence of them where they're like, they have an apartment
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: and they have friends and she's going to school and
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: she's reading and she's doing like, and they're like making
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: breakfast in the kitchen. And it's like, and of course
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: the thing about this movie that I've, grabbed me by
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: the collar and shook me is that there's fucking Joy
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Division and New Order songs playing all throughout this movie.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: That song, Is It Your Silent Face? Oh my God,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: I can't. You're going to play that in a movie
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: about two young people in love? I mean, I can't.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just a human. I'm just a woman. I can't be...
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: That hard.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: You know, I thought there's like a shot. It's just
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: a shot, but it kind of affected me of Taylor
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Russell in a movie theater.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: Yes. Watching a movie. That's what I mean. It was
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: during that sequence.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: I feel like that is such a beautiful encapsulation of
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: like things are stabilized and going well for you. Because
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: I do feel like when you're watching a movie, being
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: able to go to the movie and enjoy a movie...
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: you are, I feel like so often when I'm watching
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: a movie in a movie theater, I am like thinking
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: about my own life or applying my own life to
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: what I'm seeing on screen. And if things are going
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: hard for me, I'm like having a more difficult time
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: watching the movie or I'm more emotionally affected in like,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like crying or like, it's just, you're, it's a
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: very introspective time. And so to see her in a
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: movie theater smiling and enjoying a movie means that internally she's,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: doing well yes and things are going well and i
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: thought that was just such a like a beautiful image
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: to throw into this montage of like happy moments. Yes.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Well, and I'm just going to say it like my,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: my recommendation this week is Badlands from 1973, the Terrence
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Malick movie. And there's even a part in Badlands that
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: also affects me in a very similar way, which is
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: basically like when they're in the woods and they kind
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: of like set up their little wood house in the
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: woods and they kind of have like a sense of
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: normalcy because that's, that's the relief that I think I
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: feel as a viewer of a kind of lovers on
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: the run trope is that you're just like, it's like
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: every moment of that life is so fucking hard. And
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: they're just trying to get to a point where they
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: can just like normal out a little bit and be
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: like a couple, be like an actual couple and have
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: their like little place in the world. And it feels
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: like that is such a relief for me. In any
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: of these movies, like any of these lovers on the
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: run type of movies. And so when they were having
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: that moment in Bones and All, I was like, oh
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: my God, I love them. They're so cute. And you
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: know you have this thing in the back of your
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: mind that's like, this shit is not going to last,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: of course. But in that moment, you're just like, oh
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: my God, I love this for them, to say my
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: least favorite part. phrase ever but you know what I
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: mean like and I it just got me really emotional
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: like I was just like oh my god she can
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: be like a normal girl for once you know yeah
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know just hurts my heart but um I
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: know I don't know I feel like I don't know
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: maybe to wrap up a bit if you want to
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: I think that for me seeing Bones and All again
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: after so long um You know, there's a couple of
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: things in this movie that are a little like, blah, okay,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: I get it. You know what I mean? There's a
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: couple very obvious things that happen in this movie that
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: we're kind of like, okay. But I think for me,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: I loved seeing this movie through the lens of it
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: being kind of a love story between two young people
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: who are really misunderstood. And they kind of find that
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: solace in each other. I mean, that is irresistible, to
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: be honest.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: And again... kind of in that way of it being
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: kind of this 80s story with the New Order songs
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: and stuff. I don't know, I just kept telling myself,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: if I was a teenager when this movie came out, honestly,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: it could have very well been my Dirty Dancing. That
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: is how kind of affected I was about the... coming
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: of ageness or the love story component to this movie.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Oh man, I feel
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: like this would have, this would have rocked my little world.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: If I was in high school, I would have like,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: it would have been one of those movies and most
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: movies were like this when I was in high school.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: But if I had seen this in high school, I
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: would have been like, Well, I'm changing my entire personality now. Like,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: I am now a different person, actually.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: I was like, I am cutting those bangs. I am
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: going to wear, you know, flowery dresses with combat boots
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: again and just, you know, have my little skinny, little
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: sensitive Timothee boyfriend and we're going to take over the world.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: And that's like, I would have totally been on that
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: level if I had been young seeing this movie. So
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you liked it. I mean, I was
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: really affected by this movie. This might be my top
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: Luca Guadagnino movie.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was really moved by it. So I
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: really enjoyed it, and I didn't expect I was going
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: to like it this much, but I loved it.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Same here. So thanks for making me watch it again,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: even though Minnesota is not as represented as we thought
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: it would be.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: But that's okay. That's all right. Well, let's move on
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: to some top four tarot.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to another installment of Top Four Tarot. We're
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: going to read listeners. We're going to give them a
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: tarot reading based on their top four favorite movies. How
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: has this been going so far?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say... We've had some updates,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: I would say, from some of our prior tarot folks.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: Complaints? Not at all.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: Not at all, baby. I'm trying to find two of them.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: One of them was from Carla. Remember Carla?
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: We told her that she was born a freak, will
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: remain a freak, and will stay a freak. And she
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: says that, quote, this is going to be engraved on
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: my urn. She said that we, quote, have the gift.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: So there's that. I thought, yeah.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: She's not wrong.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: No, I thought we do have the gift. The other
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: one was from Johnny, and he sent us a comment
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: that said, Millie was correct about the queer coding in
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: my top four.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, and... Much like the eaters in Bones and All,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: we have an internal... Gift that we can't turn off.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: We were born with something that is a burden.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: But we try our best.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: It's so powerful that we're going to have to drive
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: to Iowa in order to, you know. deal with deal
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: with our powers but i mean i will say you
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: know for the most part because of that i feel
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: like we're doing a pretty good job here i haven't
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: heard from anyone else i don't think unless somebody has
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: written me personally and told me i forgot i think
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: maybe somebody else.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: I think there was one other Was there a.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Guy named Sean? I think we talked about.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: How we Sean. Yes, he was. He we said he
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: was going to he wanted to get killed by a woman.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: And he said, you guys might be right. Yeah.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: He was like, actually, that sounds pretty good.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: So everyone's been awesome, though. It's been fun to have
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: that kind of back and forth.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: Listeners. So I've been enjoying it. All right. Let's get
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: into it. This is from Michelle. From Lexington, South Carolina.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: You're next. That's right. Number one in the number one slot. Spotlight.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: I love this is a good movie about people in
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: power being held accountable so I can see why someone
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: would be attracted to that right now you know what
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah I hear that um Yeah.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: As a first film, right out the gate, I feel like,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: you know, just letting you know, I'm kind of into
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: a thought-provoking film. You know?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: Number two, Inside Out, the Pixar film. Millie, what do
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: you think about Pixar? I can't imagine you watching a
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: Pixar movie, I'm going to be completely honest with you.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: You're pretty much right about that.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: I remember I said something to the effect of like,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: I don't watch a lot of like animated, um, new
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: animated things. And somebody called me out on that. And
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, eh, fair, I guess. Um, and it's
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: cause I don't have kids. That's why I don't watch
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of, of these things. Um, Is Up a
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Pixar movie? That's a Pixar movie, right?
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: That was the big example of people being like, well,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: you got to watch Up because it's so incredible, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, okay. But for the most part,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: I don't watch Pixar because I'm a childless woman. So
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: there you go.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: This is not Pixar. This is just Disney. But I
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: have watched Frozen and Frozen 2 probably 700 times.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, sure.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: And you know what? I like those movies and I
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: enjoy watching them and I'm not sick of them yet.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: Well, good. I mean, you know, like I said, I've
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: caught a few things like I are the minions Pixar.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: No, that's DreamWorks.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. See, you know, I mean, I've seen I've seen
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: stuff randomly.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: So, yeah. You know what? We should do this on
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: the podcast. There's a new Filipino animated movie called Forgotten Island.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: That's a DreamWorks movie that's coming out soon.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. I'm into it.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: OK, cool.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Love that. All right.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Next up, Sing Street. This is one of my staff
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: picks recently. I love this movie. Another hopeful, heartwarming movie.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: I swear to God, this movie must be back on
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: people's brains because it's been mentioned a hundred trillion times
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: to me recently. I was at a trivia thing the
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: other night, like a movie trivia thing over at 97 Astoria.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: It's Wendy's Trash and Trivia.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: It's like film trivia and then you watch a trashy movie.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: And there was a question about Sing Street and I
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: got it wrong because I've never seen it. And I
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: feel like you've talked about it. I feel like it's
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: back in the TikTok streets, maybe.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Something's going on. Something's going on. All right.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: Then the last one, Little Miss Sunshine. I recently rewatched
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: this movie.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: You have?
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: I would say another hopeful movie. We Will Persevere. Uh, Michelle,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: you're a very hopeful person and, uh, I hope you,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: I think you're going to run for office.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: I think you're going to be president of the United States.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: That's my prediction.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: I think that that is fair to predict.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: Okay. Very good. Let's move on to the next one.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: This is from Maria. Hello, Maria. Okay, the first one. Wow.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: The first movie. Number one slot is Donnie Darko. Yeah.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: Mm. Interesting.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: It's a generational favorite.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: It is. I understand. Mm-hmm. I love this movie.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to the next one. Perfect Days. I've
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: never seen this movie. Have you?
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: This is the.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: Who made this?
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: Winvendors? No. Who made this movie?
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: Winvendors, yes.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the one, it's like a Japanese film, right?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, full disclosure, my friend Neil let me borrow the
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Criterion Blu-ray of this movie, and I've had it sitting
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: on my shelf for maybe like eight months. Wow.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: I know. Do you have any movies in your collection
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: that you have borrowed from a friend and have never
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: given back?
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: Um, I think this is the only one, but that's rare.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: Cause you know, sometimes people will let me borrow something
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: and I have them for a while. Cause just trying
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: to go through my list, you know, like it's hard,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: it's hard to do. I think now I gotta be
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: honest with you. I feel like people are, I think
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: on the whole, I borrow less things from people that
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: I did in the past.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: And I think it's because they'll be like, hey, you
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: should go watch Perfect Days. And then I just go
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: watch it online. Or I'll go and buy the Blu-ray
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: or something. You know what I mean? The onus is
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: now on me to find it. Versus before, certainly prior
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: to now, you'd be like, oh, have you seen Perfect Days?
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: Let me let you borrow the DVD.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: I have a copy of the movie Silent Light by
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: Carlos Regatas that was lent to me by my friend
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: Justin Coates. And when he lent it to me, he said,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: give this back. Don't make this be a thing where
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: you accidentally keep it. That was like 11 years ago.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: Wow, you piece of shit.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: What are you going to do?
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: And I have.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: Watched it. Justin, if you want reparations for this, you
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: should email us at DearMoviesAtExactlyRightMedia.com. I don't know if you listen, but.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know if Justin's ever listened to a podcast
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: in his entire life. Completely real. Funny. All right, moving. Oh, wait,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: we didn't even do it. We went way off. We
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: didn't even finish. Okay, perfect days. Okay, next is Secretary
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: with Maggie Gyllenhaal. Interesting, Maria.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: Kind of love it. Kind of love this one.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: I love it. Okay, and then the last one is
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: The Love Witch from 2016, which I love. It's interesting
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: because Donnie Darko would be more of a conventional number one,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: kind of conventional. But the last three, I think, are
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: kind of like oddball choices. I think there's a lot.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: I like Maria's vibe, is what I'm saying.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: See, I'm seeing a life trajectory here. So you start
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: off Donnie Darko, misunderstood teen in a suburban town. Then
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: you kind of make your peace... In Japan, I suppose,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: or wherever Perfect Days takes place. I think it takes place.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it does.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: Where you live a very simple, happy existence. But then
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: you get to a certain point in your age where
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: you're like, I'm getting freaky. You know? Secretary and the
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: Love Witch. I'm like, oh, someone's coming out of the
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: shell a little bit, you know?
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: Dabbling in the dark arts. Yes, I like this.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say I love this vibe for you,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: to use that phrase again, that I fucking hate, but
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: I love this vibe, period, for me and you and
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: for anybody else who's feeling the little naughty vibe. Yeah.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: I think good things.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: What's the next step? I think the next, if there
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: was a fifth one for Maria's next trajectory- Hellraiser.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Or Trouble Every Day. I think you start eating people.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: Let's just go.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: That's your future, Maria. You're going to start eating people. Okay.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: Moving on. And her name was Cassandra.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: Cassandra.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: All right. Number one slot, Pee-wee's Big Adventure. We're already friends, Cassandra.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: That's what I'll say. If that was your number one
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: movie of all time, I'm like... You rule.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: Pitch perfect, number one slot, Letterboxd.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: My friend Jesse Thorne of Bullseye and Jordan Jesse Go,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: he wrote the essay, I believe, for the Peewee's Big
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: Adventure Criterion release. Yeah.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: That's wonderful, Jesse. Good for you. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: How come they don't ask me to do shit like that?
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Makes you wonder.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: One wonders, yeah. What did you do to piss people off?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe my opinion is too fringy for Criterion. We don't
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: want this trash woman to be on our physical releases.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: But Jesse Thorne should.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. I'm sure we have a lot of
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: other friends who have done the essays for Criterion releases. Oh, yeah.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: We got to get Millie in there.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Listen, I ain't asking to do it. They can come
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: to me if they want, but I'm not begging. They
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: should be begging you. I'm just saying, I actually do
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people that have done Criterion stuff,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: both on the channel but have written essays. There's so
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: many people, but they actually have... I mean, they have, like,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: legit writers doing those things, too.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: Like, authors. You've written a book.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you're right. I don't know. But it's different,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: I haven't written a book of prose or something, so.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: Okay. All right, next up, An American Werewolf in London,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: directed by your best friend, Mr. What's-His-Face, John Landis.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: Me and him are besties. Actually, we were frenemies. And
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: then now, my best friend is Alan Rudolph.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: I love An American Werewolf in London. This is a fun, scary,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: silly movie. There's a silliness to Cassandra that... I appreciate.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: I agree. And that continues on with Shaun of the
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: Dead and Waiting for Guffman. And alternately, Cassandra said that
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: the fourth spot is sometimes Evil Dead 2 or Clue.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: This is a fun person that can look at the
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: darkness of life, you know, say your bike gets stolen,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: and you turn it into a fun little adventure. I
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: like this about you, Cassandra. I think it's going to...
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: Treat you well in the future.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say that this is a late Gen Xer,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: early millennial.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: And, you know, I could be wrong about that, but
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: that's what it feels like. And they like a little
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: bit of silliness, which is fine by me.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Their future is going to be hilariously... Uncomfortable? Is that
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying here? Waiting for Guffman's shot of the dead?
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe. Looks like Kaz gave Undertone two stars. Here,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: Kaz has a quote in her profile. Do you know
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: what this is from? I can't see it. Of course
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: you do.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: I can't see it.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: I'll read it to you. Okay. What really matters is
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: what you like, not what you are. Books, records, films,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: these things matter. Call me shallow, but it's the fucking truth.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: I do know that's Rob Gordon from, what do you
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: call it?
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: High Fidelity.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: High Fidelity as played by... Yeah.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Kaz.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: That was good.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: For writing in. This is Kara. Now, this is the
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: one that the image is way too small and I
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: can't see it, but I will... Is that the Devil
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: Wears Prada? The first one, number one slot for Kara
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: or Kara, excuse me. I'm not sure which one. I
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: believe it's Kara. Okay. We're going to say... The first
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: one is The Devil Wears Prada.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: Okay. I saw a high heel, and so I thought, okay.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: I see a high heel.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It is so small, Casey, that I can barely see.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: I see Romy and Michelle somewhere. Yeah, that was rated.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: That's not on the top, I don't think.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: Okay. Then Zodiac.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: Ah, love that.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, so what's the relationship between these two? Devil. Devil
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: Wears Prada and Zodiac. A mysterious evil figure is ruining
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: the lives. I don't know. Something. There's something there. Yeah.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: Connective tissue. They both are big office movies. You know
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Like at the workplace.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Good for you.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: Something to think about. Next one. Back to the Future.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: I love Back to the Future. That was a fun.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that movie as a child. Okay.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: What's the fourth one?
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: The fourth one is Hercules, the Disney animated feature.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: Fuck, that just threw me the fuck off. I don't
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: know what to think now.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: Wow, Kara, you are a real mystery. Much like, who
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: is the Zodiac Killer? That type of mystery.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is, gotta say, this is a crazy
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: top four. Like, crazy top four. I don't know why
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: I think that. I think it's because it's like, Devil
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: Wears Prada was like, Crowd favorite for the girls and
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: the gays. Then you've got Zodiac, which feels like a
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: fucking straight dude handshake movie, almost. And then Back to
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: the Future, which is like a childhood classic. And then Hercules,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: which is like a baby classic. This is crazy.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, what does that say?
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: A baby classic. We should do an episode about baby classics.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: Now, is this for classics for babies?
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: Or like, you know, like when I say childhood, you know,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: usually people are like my teen years. No, I'm talking
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: about what's the classic from when you were like seven?
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: Sure, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, like a Land Before Time.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: Remember there was somebody who had recently watched a bunch
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: of Land... They had like Salo in their top four
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: and then it was like also had watched Land Before
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: Time 1, 2, and 3 or something like that.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, I was like, I want to be fucking friends
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: with this person. Psycho. I love it.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: But Cara, I think you're enigmatic. You're unknown. I don't
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: know where you're coming from. I think there's something about
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: I like my workplace theory. There's something... You need to
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: separate from work a little bit. Devil Wears Prada, she
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: ruined her life. Zodiac, he got too involved with the
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: Zodiac Killer. You gotta take a day off. That's what
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: I say.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Go find you a time-traveling cutie.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Have some fun.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for sending in your top four tarot.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: Love reading these. This is so thrilling. Keep sending them in. Yes.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: And if we've done yours already and you want to
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: come back around and be like, that was pitch perfect.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: Only if it was pitch perfect. I don't care if
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: it's wrong. I just want to know if we nailed it.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: Completely. Yes. I agree. Okay. It is employees' picks time,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: staff recommendations based on the theme of the discussion. Millie,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: what do you got?
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I already said it. We spoiled the fuck
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: out of it. But, like, I am picking Badlands from 1973.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: I think you know why. Beautiful people in love on
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: the run in pastoral places.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: I like it. Very good. You know, this is not
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: my staff pick, but I think Bones and All would
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: be a good double feature with Christian F.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, sure. I see that.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: That's like the drug addiction side, but it's kind of
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: about like young people in love trying to make their way.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: But my staff pick is Raw from 2016. I also
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: mentioned this one already. This movie really jilted me when
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: I first saw it. It's really fucked up. the idea
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: of being a person that needs to eat people, not ideal. Uh,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: it's at this like veterinary school and there's like all
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: this like weird hazing rituals going on. So there's this all,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: there's kind of this other thing happening in this movie
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: and it's a real coming of age story. It's about
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: a young girl. Um, but I highly recommend it. And
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: if you liked the fucked up movie Titan about a
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: woman who has sex with the car and gets impregnated
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: by a car, Then you'll love Raw from 2016. All right.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: I'm in.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: All right. Cool. Well, that's our show. If you want
• 1:45:55
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  Speaker 2: That's fun.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: And that's all, I think.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: That's all. Millie, I'm very excited to talk about the
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: movie next week.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, we are ending our month of hometown horrors with
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: not a bang, but kind of like a goo.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: The mush.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: We're going to do the stuff from 1985, which apparently
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: was shot in Georgia.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: Nothing says Georgia like the stuff.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: Well, we are in the land of Coca-Cola after all.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: Fucked up.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: Chemicals.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we love chemicals in our bodies.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: Chemical food.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: It drives us to do crazy things. But I haven't
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: seen this movie in so long, so I'm really excited.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: This movie, this is one of those movies, like it's
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: not my favorite movie of all time, but I feel
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: like I think about, like it pops into my head
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: all the time.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: It's just a classic. I love it.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: It's so good. Anytime I'm eating yogurt... I feel like
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: I think about the stuff.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is my favorite Garrett Morris movie.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe. I don't know what my second favorite would be.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: I think my second favorite would maybe be like Jackpot.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. Have you ever seen Jackpot?
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's... No.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: Anyway, it's a Polish Brothers movie. You might actually like it,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: to be honest.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: Garrett Morris, is he still alive? He must be old
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: as hell if he's still alive. Let's see. He is
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: 89 years young. Goddamn. Goddamn. Well. Wow. Amazing. All right.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: Well, until next week, I suppose.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Good talking to you, Millie.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: Good talking to you, too. And thank you for not
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: eating my bones at all.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: No problem. Happy to not eat you.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: Don't want to. Never would.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: Don't want to.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: Tastes like shit.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: God, what did you eat? Taco Bell? All right. Bye, Millie. Bye. Bye.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: This has been an Exactly Right production, hosted by me,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: Millie DeCherico, and produced by my co-host, Casey O'Brien.
• 1:49:06
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• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: is Christina Chamberlain. Our guest booker is Patrick Kottner. And
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: our artwork is by Vanessa Lilac.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: Our incredible theme music is by the best band in
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: the entire world, The Softies.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you to our executive producers, Karen Kilgareth, Georgia Hardstark,
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Kramer, and Millie DeCherico.
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  Speaker 1: We love you.
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  Speaker 2: Goodbye.
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  Speaker 1: Bye. Because.