Latest / Your Mic / The Podcast Myth About Quality vs. Quantity
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- 0:00I hear a lie that kills more podcasts than bad mics and boring guests combined.
- 0:06The lie is, once it feels perfect, I'll hit publish.
- 0:12If that were true, your favorite shows would never exist.
- 0:15They're not driven by vibes, they're driven by volume, by quantity, by reps.
- 0:26Today on your mic, I want to talk to you about a ceramics class, a breast cancer non-profit,
- 0:33and while your podcast only gets good when you stop worshiping quality and start shipping.
- 0:39There's a story that art nerds love to toss around.
- 0:43It comes from an art class, told in the book, Art and Fear.
- 0:48Goes like this.
- 0:50A ceramics teacher walks into class on day one and says, we're trying something different
- 0:54this term.
- 0:56He points to the left side of the room and says, you all are the quantity crew.
- 1:01Your grade is based solely on how much work you produce.
- 1:07Hundred pounds of pots by the end of class, that's an A, 50 pounds, C. It's all about volume.
- 1:16Then he points to the right side of the room, you are my quality people.
- 1:22Your grade is based on one thing and one thing only.
- 1:26Your single best pot.
- 1:29You can spend the entire term obsessing over that one masterpiece if you want.
- 1:35Now fast forward to the end of the term.
- 1:38The teacher comes back, weighs the pots from the quantity side, and then inspects the
- 1:43single perfect pieces from the quality side.
- 1:47And here's the twist.
- 1:49All the best work comes from the quantity group, not some of it, not it's kind of close.
- 1:57The best pieces, the ones that look like they were made by actual artists, they came from
- 2:02students who just kept making pot after pot after pot after pot after pot.
- 2:07They made ugly stuff.
- 2:09They made cracked stuff.
- 2:11They made, please don't show this to my mother stuff.
- 2:14But every time they screwed up, they learned something.
- 2:18The clay taught them, the wheel taught them, the mistakes taught them.
- 2:25Meanwhile the quality side of the room spent their time theorizing perfection, overthinking,
- 2:33sketching, planning.
- 2:36They had lots of thoughts about great work, but not much actual clay on the table.
- 2:42Now, is this lab coat peer-reviewed double blind study?
- 2:46No, it's a parable.
- 2:49A story from a real art class.
- 2:52But every creator who's been in the trenches, here's that story and goes, yep, that tracks.
- 2:58Because in the real world, quantity is the road that quality has to drive on.
- 3:06Podcasting works the exact same way.
- 3:09You don't get to 100 by thinking about having a great show.
- 3:13You get to episode 100 by shipping episodes 1 through 99.
- 3:19You only find your voice by using your voice.
- 3:23You only become a better interviewer by doing a stupid number of interviews.
- 3:28I've done over a thousand and I still feel like there's more room to improve.
- 3:34When you only turn your podcast into a real media asset by deciding, I'm going to show
- 3:41up on purpose over and over and over again, even when it's not fun.
- 3:47And I think podcasting should be fun.
- 3:50Creators who work off vibes, well, as the kids would say, the math don't math, not at all.
- 3:58They drop an episode, disappear for a few weeks, come back with a quote, big relaunch,
- 4:05and then ghost again, because life happened.
- 4:08Quantity kids are in the studio while the vibe kids are in their feelings.
- 4:18Let's take a real world example from the speak roster of clients.
- 4:22This is the Rose, a breast center of excellence here in Houston, Texas.
- 4:26Their show is called Let's Talk About Your Breasts.
- 4:29Now when we launched the show, they were on a weekly cadence, solid, great content, strong
- 4:34guests, even stronger interviews.
- 4:37And here's where it gets really interesting.
- 4:40From season one into season two, they decided to go buy weekly.
- 4:45Now that is actually really crazy to think about it.
- 4:51On profits, they're busy raising funds, serving the mission.
- 4:57And they did that because they were serious.
- 5:01By weekly episodes meant that they could go deeper, more thoughtful story arcs, better
- 5:07prep with survivors and doctors, more time to turn each episode into an asset.
- 5:14And here's what happened.
- 5:15The results got better.
- 5:17The podcast became a legit arm of their mission, not just a nice to have, not because we all
- 5:24prayed to the gods of quality, because we committed to consistency, sustainable quantity.
- 5:31The reps, they stayed.
- 5:33The pace became realistic and the craft continues to improve.
- 5:38Here's where it gets really interesting, wild, actually.
- 5:42Every October for breast cancer awareness month, we call it BCAM.
- 5:46Every October for BCAM, the Rose does something that would break nearly every creator or medium
- 5:52size, small size, large size, business or nonprofit.
- 5:55They run a 31 day sprint of episodes, 31 days, 31 episodes every single day.
- 6:04This year in 2026, it's going to be their fourth BCAM in a row where they drop an episode
- 6:10every day of the month.
- 6:12That's not a vibe.
- 6:14That is podcast mastery.
- 6:18And what do they have to show for it?
- 6:20A deep catalog of survivor stories, educational episodes, donor spotlights and behind the
- 6:25scenes looks at their mission.
- 6:28Episodes going out on RSS, yes, but also chopped for social repurposed on YouTube, embedded
- 6:34in newsletters, shared at events, tangible assets that get used and reused
- 6:40and repurposed in so many different ways.
- 6:42And let me tell you, you go into the building and you go into the elevator, you're going
- 6:46to see a promotion of their podcast.
- 6:49You talk about an organization really doing it right.
- 6:53The Rose is a case study.
- 6:55They are straight out of the book of on how to do a podcast the right way.
- 7:01And that's what quantity looks like when it grows up.
- 7:05It's not random posting.
- 7:06We're talking rhythmic intentional output, a sustainable bi-weekly cadence.
- 7:11Most of the year were the concentrated 31 episode marathon every breast cancer awareness
- 7:16month.
- 7:18Clay on the wheel, clay in the kiln, clay shipped.
- 7:24Let's bring this back to your mic.
- 7:27Yours, not this podcast, which is titled your mic, your mic.
- 7:31If you're sitting on the perfect launch, you are that quality student, polishing the
- 7:39same sad, lopsided pot for 16 weeks and calling it strategy.
- 7:45If you're dropping episodes, only when the muse shows up, you are playing creator on
- 7:50easy mode and wondering why your numbers look like a ghost town.
- 7:55You don't need to be weekly, you don't need to be daily, you need to be consistent.
- 8:00That word means to you.
- 8:02You see, the point is to never kill yourself.
- 8:06It's never to make your podcast turn you into some sort of hostage.
- 8:09Remember, Dorothy Gibbons from the row, she's the co-founder and former CEO.
- 8:15She had this hardline rule and it really sets the tone for everything we do at speak
- 8:20podcasting.
- 8:21It's got to be fun.
- 8:22So you never want to be held hostage by your podcast.
- 8:26You don't want the inputs to really do a number on you, much less kill you.
- 8:31You don't want it to start to distract from your business or your personal life.
- 8:35You never want that.
- 8:36It's got to be fun yet at the same time.
- 8:39If you want to share your story with the world, if you want to build your brand, if you want
- 8:43this to serve as some kind of arm for your business or nonprofit, you do have to put in
- 8:47some work.
- 8:49There's no way around it.
- 8:51You're not going to get to a million downloads every month because proof somebody noticed
- 8:55you.
- 8:56That's not how any of this works.
- 9:00Once you commit to quantity, quality has got nowhere to hide because it eventually shows
- 9:06up.
- 9:07So this is your homework.
- 9:09If you're fantasizing about your dream podcast, stop.
- 9:14What I want you to do is start acting like that ceramic student on the quantity side.
- 9:20About 10 to 12 episodes.
- 9:23All you got to do is work out titles and maybe a sentence of what each episode is going
- 9:27to do for your listener.
- 9:29Block one recording day and batch at least two or three of them.
- 9:34Then commit to a release schedule.
- 9:36You can actually maintain for the next six months without going crazy or turning your
- 9:41hair completely gray.
- 9:43You're going to write it down.
- 9:44You're going to tell your audience.
- 9:45You're going to tell your team.
- 9:46You're going to tell your dog.
- 9:47What's up, sparrow?
- 9:48I love you, man.
- 9:49Because you only get to episode 100 by surviving episode one, two, three, four, five, and six,
- 9:54so on and so forth.
- 9:55You only get to your version of 31 episodes in 31 days by becoming the kind of person who
- 10:00ships when they say they're going to ship.
- 10:05And if this episode slapped you around a little bit in a loving way, share it with a podcast
- 10:10friend who is stuck polishing their perfect pilot.
- 10:15If you want some help figuring out what your version of sustainable quantity looks like,
- 10:19weekly, bi-weekly, sprint-based, slide into my DMs, send me an email.
- 10:25I'd love to chat.
- 10:26Freddie at SpeakPodcasting.com that is ready with the Y at S-P-E-K-E podcasting.com.
- 10:34Keep your mics hot.
- 10:36Stop worshipping vibes.
- 10:37Start stacking pods.
- 10:39Because in this game, the creators who ship are the ones who win and you're a winner.