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#196 - Lil Flip · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Buleg cav Show Special guests. We have got the chetown
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  Speaker 1: legend himself, Little Flipping the Building man. Welcome, Bro, welcome, welcome. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: what's good bro? Love the place? Man? Thank you better? Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: congrats on everything. Thank you man. How's everything going with you?
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  Speaker 1: Been blessed? How you doing? Hey? I woke up today,
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I tell everybody that's the hell of a
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  Speaker 1: great start. That is a great start. How well, first
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  Speaker 1: of all, what's going on, Like, what's the latest and
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  Speaker 1: greatest in Little Flips world? What you been doing? What
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  Speaker 1: you been working on? And you've always got businesses you're
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  Speaker 1: starting and all kinds of shit going on, right Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's that's all I do. Let's see, besides
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  Speaker 1: being the owner of Exotic Pop, which is everywhere everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: that I'm doing a lot of stuff in the metaverse.
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  Speaker 1: I got a concert coming up in the metaverse August fourteenth,
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  Speaker 1: and then me and zero we just got done with
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  Speaker 1: Kings of the South Part two. I dropped Flip Madewell
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  Speaker 1: of the I got a well, I guess I'll announce
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  Speaker 1: it here. I got a show coming where we're going
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  Speaker 1: to discover the next big thing like a talent like
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  Speaker 1: reality show. Yes, yes, and we want the next you know,
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  Speaker 1: like it's always one of ones, but legendary stuff. We're
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  Speaker 1: not looking for regional, We're not looking for we want
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  Speaker 1: the next stadium filler. What is what is the platform
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  Speaker 1: it'll be on? Well, that's the thing that that's the
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  Speaker 1: only thing that we're You're going to film it first
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  Speaker 1: and then shop it around or well we we already
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  Speaker 1: have things in place already. Yeah. Yeah, man, shout out
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  Speaker 1: to King Lee, you know, my business partner. But we
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  Speaker 1: got some stuff going. So the metaverse, the apps, the
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  Speaker 1: Exotic Pops. How did you get involved with Exotic Pop? Well,
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  Speaker 1: the other owner, Charleston, he's from Houston and he grew
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  Speaker 1: up on my music. We grew up in the same area.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, man, I got the soda company thing,
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing, what's up? And so I'm like, man, I'm down.
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  Speaker 1: And so we just put our heads together and keeling
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  Speaker 1: and the cool cup juice and we just been Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because like any smoke shop you're go into or i
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  Speaker 1: mean obviously liquor stores too. They're right because because Exotic
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  Speaker 1: Pop quit me from more. You guys are given, like
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  Speaker 1: artists their own sodas right correct, right, right right given
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  Speaker 1: like other streams of income. We're some of the artists
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  Speaker 1: that have their own soda. I know Mac Dre's got
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  Speaker 1: his when I was in the Baby tried it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: rest Peace, That's one of my favorite ones, the Bubblegum
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  Speaker 1: restu piece of mac Dre Man. We did one with
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  Speaker 1: Ryb Kardashian. We did one with Drake's dad, twenty one
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  Speaker 1: Savage and Metro Boom, and we gave Sauce walking his
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  Speaker 1: own water. I got cream soda and I have a
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  Speaker 1: green Apple cool cup juice. Man. There's so many artists, man,
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  Speaker 1: but the legends like DJ Screwed, Big Mold, Fat padd
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  Speaker 1: like all the legends who are not here, Big Halt.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we help their families with the money and
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  Speaker 1: each soa that we sell, like on the back of
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  Speaker 1: it it sayss like a percentage of it goes to
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  Speaker 1: the community. So wherever the artists are from, we do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff with the community, with the kids.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm actually putting out a mixtape August fourteen called
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  Speaker 1: the Arti Freestyle, where I'm rapping over my favorite Big
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  Speaker 1: Mo beats, my favorite Fat Pat beats, so I sat
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  Speaker 1: down with Direct, the owner of all these masters, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, bro, you gotten cleared. Yes, I'm like, bro,
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  Speaker 1: I want to wrap on these classic beats and put
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  Speaker 1: them out and you know, so we talked about the beers.
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  Speaker 1: But it's crazy, you know, because I feel like the
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  Speaker 1: people who came before me, it's on me to make
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  Speaker 1: sure while I'm still here that their names live on
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because they did so much
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  Speaker 1: for me, and you know, nobody knows when we go go,
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  Speaker 1: so it's on me. It's on Flip everywhere I go
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  Speaker 1: to make sure DJ Screw, PIMC, Big Mo, HOWK Fat Pat,
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  Speaker 1: like all these different people that are from where I'm
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  Speaker 1: from that we hold to high regard the same way
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  Speaker 1: people hold Big and Pop like or even like a
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  Speaker 1: guy like Mac dra and the Bay exactly. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: we just we go keep pushing it. How did you initially,
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  Speaker 1: because I remember when you came out, the first thing
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  Speaker 1: I remember was you having your own cereal with a
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  Speaker 1: Leprechaun project, and then obviously it was like, oh shit,
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  Speaker 1: there's this guy who's got his own cereal. I was
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  Speaker 1: living in Arizona at the time, so I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: much about the Houston scene outside of like rap a
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  Speaker 1: lot and Scarface and obviously ugk they're from Port Arthur.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, but in terms of like the screwed up shit,
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  Speaker 1: just that whole kind of wave, I really didn't get
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  Speaker 1: super hip too until you know, it really went commercial
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  Speaker 1: and you know, when you and Mike Jones and Paul
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  Speaker 1: Wall and everybody had their U their wave. You know,
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  Speaker 1: So how did you like initially kind of get into
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  Speaker 1: the game and like, I know, like nationally, was that
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  Speaker 1: kind of like your first big look the Lepercun shit. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the Lepercun was my first solo album. So the difference
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  Speaker 1: is one of the other reasons why I called myself
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  Speaker 1: for the Mayweather is because I'm born into music, just
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  Speaker 1: like he was born into boxing. So a lot of
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  Speaker 1: artists they started rapping and doing music as you know,
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  Speaker 1: fifteen high school. You know, like if you're born in
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  Speaker 1: my house, you doing music, gotcha? So I already knew
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  Speaker 1: the industry. I sunk in the choir, wrapped the Italian shows,
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  Speaker 1: used to rap, battle, played the piano, drums, learning the guitar,
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  Speaker 1: was in film, acting class, etiquette, class media training. So
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  Speaker 1: I was already ready for the industry Man and the
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  Speaker 1: lepercun I put that out after I did a group
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  Speaker 1: album called h and See what stands for Hustler stacking Ins.
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  Speaker 1: But prior to that, I had a few other groups
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  Speaker 1: that I was in that I started, and man, I
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  Speaker 1: just knew if I had a person like j Prince
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  Speaker 1: and rap a Lot by the way, free Larry Hoover,
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  Speaker 1: you did ye, Like if I had somebody like that
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  Speaker 1: as my mentor in my same city to study the blueprint.
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  Speaker 1: So I just sit back, like, okay, just the way
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  Speaker 1: you you market yourself, just the way you don't take
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  Speaker 1: no for a answer. This is the way you invest
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  Speaker 1: in your own money and time. You do it your way.
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  Speaker 1: So seeing them come through, you know, clubs and come
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  Speaker 1: through the neighborhoods, in the in the Double Lords and
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  Speaker 1: the Roads Russes. Like since I was young and watched
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  Speaker 1: Richie rich I already knew Rose Russes was for me
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  Speaker 1: right tall on me somewhere. I don't know the Double
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  Speaker 1: Lords right here, hellogo. But so I had the perfect
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  Speaker 1: blueprint to watch out rap a Lot, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: this man had a car a lot and then turned
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  Speaker 1: it into like music business and you know, had to
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  Speaker 1: get our boys everywhere and just different artists and putting
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  Speaker 1: out these albums and coming to car shows displaying all
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  Speaker 1: their cars and showing up to the shows fifty deep,
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  Speaker 1: everybody all and black. Like it was just like a
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  Speaker 1: big thing. So I basically was a sponge being able
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  Speaker 1: to balance what I learned from my family, my dad,
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  Speaker 1: my grandparents, my mom, and then DJ Screw then it
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  Speaker 1: was like I was learning from Jay Prince as well.
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  Speaker 1: So we put out the HSSE album, put that out,
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  Speaker 1: Rest in Peace to Jason he died. He's on HSC album,
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  Speaker 1: my high school homie. And then after that, well, when
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  Speaker 1: we put it out, fans was like, man, we wanted
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  Speaker 1: to flip solo album. Why would you put the group
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  Speaker 1: out and you're the hottest thing in the streets. But
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  Speaker 1: I've always been with them people that like to try
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  Speaker 1: to bring people with me, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: That was how I was raised, Like if you have
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  Speaker 1: more than the next person, hey, I'm not gonna sit it,
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  Speaker 1: eat the stake and you don't have nothing, I just
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  Speaker 1: cut my shit in half and give you half of
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  Speaker 1: my stake. Like that's the type of person I am,
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  Speaker 1: And so I did that and that was one of
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  Speaker 1: the best decisions because it allowed me to record the
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  Speaker 1: Leperate Cunt album. And what happened the first album we
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  Speaker 1: put out, the group album HSC. We did pretty cool,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it was so many
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  Speaker 1: people on the label, the amount of money that it
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  Speaker 1: was making, and then I'm the marquee artist. It just
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  Speaker 1: wasn't enough, right, and everybody wants to see me, right,
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  Speaker 1: So it's like I'm like, but I still want my
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  Speaker 1: guys like with me, you know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 1: the Leperate Cunt album, I wrote half of it in
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  Speaker 1: my freestyle half of it and half of that album,
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  Speaker 1: like I was like literally still in the trap with
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  Speaker 1: my homie Task resting piece of Task, that's my guy,
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  Speaker 1: Like literally making the album, making plays, you know in
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  Speaker 1: the front room, you know, with the shotgun, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in the front room with the Nato the ak, like
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  Speaker 1: literally making plays and in between playing you know, PLAYSTATIONE
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  Speaker 1: and and writing raps and constructing my Lepercun album. So
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  Speaker 1: I was able to really have fun and I can
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  Speaker 1: do that. It was the single we put that ship out.
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  Speaker 1: It did crazy? Did that come out on wrap a Lot? No? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I partnered up with a guy named Hump and we
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  Speaker 1: we we well. Sucker Free was like a concert. It
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  Speaker 1: was entertainment company at first, and I partnered up with
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  Speaker 1: him because he was one of my childhood I remember that.
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  Speaker 1: I remember the Yeah, so my dad. He was one
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  Speaker 1: of my dad's childhood friends. And I'm like, all right, hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's turn it to a record label. You be the CEO,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be the CEO. And so we put it out,
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  Speaker 1: did well independent and a lot of people don't know
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  Speaker 1: when you put out a double album and it counts right,
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  Speaker 1: so like people like you know, Pock and Biggie when
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  Speaker 1: they you know, they go down, but it counts to
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  Speaker 1: it counts its too. So eight Ball, you know, one
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  Speaker 1: of my trip, yeah, the triple album come Lost. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn all, he got to sell us one
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  Speaker 1: third of half a meal and he's gold you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, Yeah, you know, to get the gold plaquet. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like and it ended up selling you know,
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  Speaker 1: a million plus, so he ended up going triple platinum.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know eight Ball Lost is
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  Speaker 1: like triple platinum. That's yeah. So and in my mind
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I'm a I'm a sponge, So I
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  Speaker 1: studied rap a lot, I studied swave house. I study everything,
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  Speaker 1: and then I implement my own, you know, final version
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  Speaker 1: of what I've learned from everybody put that shit out.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of record was doing mixtape, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of records mixtape mixtapes pulling out. Everybody was like, why
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  Speaker 1: are you rapping on these beats and putting them out?
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  Speaker 1: You should focus on real stuff. I'm like, Nah, this
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  Speaker 1: is what DJ Screw taught me, this is where I
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  Speaker 1: come from. So people started seeing. We would pull up
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  Speaker 1: the towns and we picking up show money, and hell,
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  Speaker 1: I'm picking up mixtape money. The mixtape money, hell, at
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  Speaker 1: times was two times more than the show money. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm dropping off boxes five. You're just like dropping off
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  Speaker 1: at the local spots. Music Mania was a spot in Austin,
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  Speaker 1: crazy place. It was record store, Yes, bro, right next
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  Speaker 1: to active athlete, and Bro, I pull up cash out
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  Speaker 1: fifteen K here, twenty K here, damn yeah, come back
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  Speaker 1: to Austin three months later. By that time, I got
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  Speaker 1: a new mixtape out repeat. So I had a place
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  Speaker 1: in Austin, a place in Dallas, t Time Music, a
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  Speaker 1: place in Tyler. Wow. Those were like my main three
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  Speaker 1: hubs of where I knew I could go pick up
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  Speaker 1: five k here, ten k here, dropping off some products.
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  Speaker 1: B It was the easiest shit. And so I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: y'all calling me stupid, but y'all wondering how I'm selling
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  Speaker 1: all these records and how everybody wants to see me
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  Speaker 1: is because I'm just giving this shit away. Sometimes we
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  Speaker 1: were selling them as well, so like at the to
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  Speaker 1: the retail people, I would selling them to them, but
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  Speaker 1: at the concepts, I would give them away right that.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Hey, those are the good old days though, man. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: when you could sell so you could just pull up
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  Speaker 1: and have like a relationship with the owner of a
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  Speaker 1: record store and you know he believe in what you're doing,
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  Speaker 1: and then you turn that into instant monetary. It's crazy
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  Speaker 1: with the streaming shit, is hey, we got to stop
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back to the interview. Have you had any
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  Speaker 1: issues like adjusting to the streaming world or do you
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  Speaker 1: feel like it benefits artists like you that's independent that
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  Speaker 1: can just kind of drop freely if you will. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm one of them people like this bro. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a stuck in my ways type of king,
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  Speaker 1: right I hustle, the dinosaur way, the modern way, and
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  Speaker 1: the future way. So it I mean, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I just embrace it. I still press up my physical
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  Speaker 1: copies and my wax for the DJs that like wax
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  Speaker 1: and wax sales for pretty good money these days. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: people still buy vinyl. It's like almost like as a collector,
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  Speaker 1: they'd almost rather buy the vinyl than the CD because
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  Speaker 1: it feels like there's people buying vinyl don't even have
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  Speaker 1: a turned able to play it on the agreed agreed,
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  Speaker 1: And so yeah, that's that's where I'm at. And then
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  Speaker 1: like the things with the streams, you know, like like
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  Speaker 1: I say, the only downfall to the stream you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm not I'm not one of the OG haters,
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  Speaker 1: Like uh, I'm like I fuck with the new cats,
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  Speaker 1: the new artists. You know. My only concern with the
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  Speaker 1: streams is like this, how I compare it? Right? I
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: compared a stream to this. You know how back in
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  Speaker 1: the days, you could go to a music store and
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  Speaker 1: listen to a whole album, right, you can chamit whatever whatever.
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  Speaker 1: If you didn't buy it, you didn't get that sale, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like the artists didn't get that sale. So if you
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: go to a car lot and you test drive a
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: car and you don't buy it. The guy who's selling
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  Speaker 1: the car doesn't get credit for you test driving the car.
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  Speaker 1: He gets credit for yourself. So just the way that
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  Speaker 1: they converted to like you have this many streams, this
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  Speaker 1: means you're a platinum, but a sample to me is
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  Speaker 1: still it's like you can't lower the goal post. It's
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  Speaker 1: how I look at it, no matter what, no matter what. Right,
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  Speaker 1: like any other business, if you sell pizza, if you
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  Speaker 1: only sell twenty pizzas, man, you only sold twenty pizzas well,
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  Speaker 1: if you think about it, like with the playlist world,
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  Speaker 1: it's like you might throw a new playlist on that
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  Speaker 1: Spotify feed you whether it's like rap Caaba or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and even if the song plays for thirty seconds, you
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  Speaker 1: don't fuck with you hit next on the playlist still
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  Speaker 1: counts as a stream, right, So it's it's like a
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  Speaker 1: sometimes a person that's able to be like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I went flatten them. I got this many streams, and
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  Speaker 1: it creates a big head. Also, like you'll really know
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  Speaker 1: if it's working if you can sell hard tickets. Correct,
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  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of these artists who stream big numbers,
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  Speaker 1: but they can't go on tour. Yeah. So it's so
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  Speaker 1: it's so like I'm like on the fence with like
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  Speaker 1: just like one hundred percent, Like, oh, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's dope that people all around the world can
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  Speaker 1: hear your music from the push up of button and
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  Speaker 1: you can also upload ship exactly button, so it's coxactly.
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  Speaker 1: Back in the day, you had to go press up CDs,
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  Speaker 1: find distribution right to get like your ship all over
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  Speaker 1: the country in a record store. Agreed, man, So now
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  Speaker 1: it's like I just hit it. There's no middle man. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So like I embraced it. I'm one of them people.
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  Speaker 1: I adapt. Man, what's going on? You know? Plex? Like
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  Speaker 1: I love I love like in my house and my studios,
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  Speaker 1: I got PLEX and stuff on the wall that just
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  Speaker 1: inspires me. Man, you know what I mean? So I
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: fuck with this setup? Man? You uh, the first like,
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  Speaker 1: like I guess you're kind of coming out party, would
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  Speaker 1: you say, would be like underground legend in terms of
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  Speaker 1: just like commercially national correct? What was it was? Game
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  Speaker 1: over on that game Over was on the next album. Right,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta feel me? The way we ball was the
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  Speaker 1: first to feel me was crazy this is the way. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I forgot about the way one video multi platinum off
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  Speaker 1: one video. That's fucking crazy because was that a double album? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: All my albums a double albums. I remember it most
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: of the time. What was the album where you were
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: like kind of like in black on the cover it
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: came out The Game Over remix was on there. I
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: want to say, mind that shit was there was a
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: record on there, fuck that I loved because I know
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: that like that was kind of there wasn't like a
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: super smash on that album, was there. I wouldn't say
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: it was a super sm There was a record on
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: that project that I fucking loved. Yeah, it was like
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I think I put what it Do was on there
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: with many fresh and yeah we put we put a
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: little money behind it, but we didn't go in mind
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: there was a couple of records on there that I loved,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: and that was a part right there. I was actually
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: like transitioning leaving the label. So one That's why it's
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: like a version where it's one cover of me standing
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: in front of black and then it's one version when
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I went to one of the brothers, I'm holding some
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: money or some quick shit. I didn't really like that cover,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: but I put on the cover Free Zero, So that's
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: what I was pushing, you know, so welcome home Zero.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: He been home for me for a while. Yeah yeah,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: but I that They were like, you're gonna put free
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Somebody on your album cover. I'm like, yeah, this is yeah, yeah,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: well this was Sony No, no, no, this was Warner.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: This was one of just one person. One person asked me,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, like it's not a mixed listen.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. Like see, I never let
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: a person like tell me what I can I can't do,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: especially when it comes to art. I'm one of those
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: people though, I will listen to your opinion, like I
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: will listen. I'm like, I'm a That doesn't mean I
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: have to take it, but I will acknowledge it and
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: if it makes sense to me. I'm a rock with
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and that's how I got open to input, helping information.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: That's how I got where I'm at. Yo. There was
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: a period of time where you were popping up on
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of June radio shit the mixtapes back in
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the day. Was there ever any conversations where fifty was
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: trying to sign you to JUnit Man, me and fifty
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: We talked about doing some business a few times. It
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: never like happened, like I think, mainly due to like
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: scheduling and stuff. But we didn't specifically talk like I'm
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: signing to because see, no matter if I'm on TV
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: or not, like I'm I came in this industry as
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: a CEO, So if I would ever do a deal
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: with another artist, it would be a joint picture. It
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: would be a partnership. I'll never ever be under anybody
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: and never have every album I ever put out. I
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: was a CEO, so I was already taught as a kid.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Come in a game of ceo, be an artist. Don't
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: let people tell you, Oh, you should just focus on
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the music part and let us talk for you. And
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: know that's how you get robbed. That's how lawyers put bruh.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: That's how lawyers man finess you out of bread, especially
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the lawyers that like are suggested to you by the
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: people you're signing to. Oh you don't have a good lawyer,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: We got one for you, yeah, bro, the motherfuckers. So
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk for myself. I get to done. I
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: get the deal done way quicker when I talk for myself.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Did you ever have a situation where you got into
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: a shitty deal like early on, like whether it was
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the Sony or the Warner situation, because back in the day,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: those major label deals were fucking treacherous. Thank you. I
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: never got into a shitty deal. I've been in some
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: deals where I got what I wanted or got what
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I asked for it, but I looked out for somebody
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: out of what I got, only to find out later
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: that they had got a separate bag for themselves as well.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: So they dipped in the pay, they double dip, But
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I still got what I want because at the end
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: of the day, I think like a hustler. I get
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: paid to talk, seen make words, rhyme, come up with
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: witty shit, make a motherfucker say wow. It's people that
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: talk all day, don't that don't get paid for it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: So I look at it like this, br Any amount
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of money that a motherfucker go pay me just a
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: talk is a win. Now, when we go to my
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: accolades and what I've accomplished, I know how to find
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the medium of I know how to negotiate. My dad
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: was a master car salesman, so I know how to
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: play a s I know how to play a wolf
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, I'm a hustler.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, almost any amount
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: of money that's respectful, respectable, it's not getting fucked over,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. But yeah, I've always known
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: how to speak my mind because I grew up around
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: older people. I'm I'm the youngest and the screwed up Click.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: But I'm not afraid to speak my mind. If a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: OG or somebody did something to me that I felt
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: like they slighted me and it was wrong, I'm gonna
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: address it now. I know how to approach it respectful.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. I'm not a reckless you know,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: g and no shit like that. But I'm not afraid
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to speak my mind. And I'm a very honorable person.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: When being from screwed up Click, and I kind of
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: feel like you were a little bit ahead, slightly ahead
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: of the of the of the kind of like h
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: town national craze. I kind of feel like you were
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: like probably the first dude in that class of like
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: of your peers that really popped correct. I'm talking like obviously,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you know, the millionaires of Paul Walls, you were kind
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: of first. I was first, Yeah, I was. I was
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the first person like out of that wave. You know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: we had LaTroy he went platinum rightly in terms of
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: just the I feel like era, yeah, yeah, but I
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: was just saying, you know, yeah, we had that like
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: right before like the ship started going on, you know.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, definitely, I was. I was first. Was
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: there ever any Was there ever any like because Swisher
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: House had kind of you know, uh, Michael five thousand
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: wats was chopping and screwing ship as well? Was there
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: ever any sort of static between the screwed up ship
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and the Swisher House ship? It was? Well? And it
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: like because obviously everyone ends up on that Source cover, right,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: which was a crazy cover right right, the don't mess
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: with textics. Everybody and their mom was on that cover, right,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: But uh did that like like like, what was what
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: was like your take on like seeing Swisher House come
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: out and kind of obviously, you know, DJ screw started
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: chopping and screwing shit, but it also was like a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Houston thing as much as it was his thing that
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: he created, you know, but what what was your take
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: on the Swisher House movement? You know, kind of being
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: on the other side of things. I'm in a screwed
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: up click, so like I'm an understandable person, you know
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: what I mean. So a lot of members was like,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: oh shit, what is that? What's going on? That're doing
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: what we're doing? And my whole take, I just felt like,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: hey man, we inspired some people to do what they do,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I didn't look at it,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you know like some of the other members looked at it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: You know, you had some people that was like they
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: didn't like it, and you had some people that was like,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: hey man, shit, they expressing theyself. They they want to
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We motivated some people to
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's how I always
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: looked at it, and that's one of the reasons I'm
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the first person outter screwed up Click to go do
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: a freestyle on the Swisher House tape. Mmm, so I
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: got clap. My My biggest freestyle is on a Swisher
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: House tape. Which freestyle was that it's a mixtape called
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: IR forty five and it's a record like we blow in.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Though I might be on jaylen h they be like, Phlip,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: can you listen to my demo, I say, nine Nigga,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I got shows to do after the concert. I got
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: hoes to screw, like that's a classic freestyle. That's like, motherfucker,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: scream that shit like word for word. And so I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: was always going over there. I got family that's on
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the north side, so in the midst of the North
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Side and South Side, Beef, I was always on the
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: north side anyway, like because I don't I don't at
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, the way I feel we Houston, right,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, it's about
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: unity for me. So you know, Yeah, my biggest freestyle
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: is on the Swish House tape. That's crazy and I'm
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: in a screwed up click. What can you tell us
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: about that Source magazine cover? Was everyone there at the
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: same time? Yep? What was that? Like? It was a
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: great day. I played dumb one of us with Jay
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Prince seeing you and uh we was on the ranch.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: You know, that was one of the inspirations to me,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you know, buying a ranch and cattle. So just being
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: on the ranch and hearing about the ranch and just
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: being there and what was on that covers? Rose Slim, Paul, Pimps,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Bun by, which was random. But I don't think he
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: was on the cover. I think he was on the inside.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: You had to open it, yeah, okay, because it was
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: it was the cover was like one of those fold
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: out fo damn. But I remember him being there, yeah,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: because like the ones I got, I got. I still
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: got some copies of that in my studio, But that
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: particular one, I don't think. Maybe he was on the inside.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't remember. Yeah, I think it was the inside.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: But but yeah, everybody was there, bro. It was a
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: cold day. That's why I had on the fur. It
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: was a cold ass fucking day. And some kind of
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: like past the mic freestyle that same day too. It
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: was cool, man, I mean it was cold. Was this
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: probably the last day that all those people were together
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: all at once? Huh man when you put it like that.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Probably so it's a lot of people to get Yeah,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: probably so because we lost PMC long lived PEMPS. Yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: smoke some bitch and memory of PMC. Yeah, that was
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: a That was a big moment because I just encapsulated
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: just kind of the movement that was going on at
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the time. Definitely. Uh, why do you think that movement
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of longevity commercially, because it felt
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: like there was like a three or four year window
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: where it was like it and then it kind of
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: just started to you know, I don't know if it
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: was g unit, you know, running with shit, or it
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: just just hip hop kind of shifted, shifted, right, I know.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Part of the reason is what's the word evolving? Right?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Every coast, every time has their own lingo, their own
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: slang words that they say, things that they do. So
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: for us, you know, the candy paint, the double cups,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the diamond teeth, that's us, right, that's our culture, like
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: we live, it's in us. It's not a fad for us, right.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: So for the rest of the country, right, Yeah, to
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: some up, yeah, they thought it was a fad, and
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: so everybody started getting grills where they're talking, you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: funny can't really talk and just you know, double cups,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: all this stuff that we started. And so man, it's
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: just like some people didn't want to keep hearing about
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: candy paint, popping trunks, grills, you know what I mean.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And then at the same time, some artists like, okay,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: if you make a record that's about a certain topic, right,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and it goes you know, gold or whatever the case
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: may be. Pretty you know, plenty of fanfare. You're gonna
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: replicate that, people are gonna be in your ear. You
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: need another one one of those. So then you go
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: back in the studio and you try to make another
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: one of those. Right, So it's like you probably on
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: your head like we need another Sunshine right right, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: me I'm just like listen, I'm gonna create. It has
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: to happen. Argain. Did they ever try to force you
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: into do a Shawnte record back then, like a record
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: with her because Sunshine was so big, like at the
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: same time, like as on like you know everything. They didn't.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: They never forced a Shanty record. I was able to
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: do one with Beyonce. I did a Naughty Girl. You
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: did the Naughty Girl. Oh my god, I forgot about that.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And then I did a remix with Kelly Rowland King
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Nobody and I hate the record and do what it
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: should it did. I forgot about Naughty Girl. What's that like?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Getting a call from Beyonce? Man, it's dope. I mean
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: it was like they actually performed like my single off
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: of the Leperchun I can do that. They actually performed
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: there like in Houston at like a big show back
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: in the day, Like I forgot what arena. I don't
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: know if it was the felt she's always paying homage
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: when she can, you know, to this day, no, till
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: his day, till his day. Yeah, but now that was
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: a dope adult moment. And then she called me out
• 29:12
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• 29:15
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• 29:18
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• 29:22
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• 29:25
  Speaker 1: label made, so it was It's cool. So thank you
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: for the clothes, missus Nose, Thanks for the closed Missnose.
• 29:32
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• 29:36
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• 29:38
  Speaker 1: but you know you got to show. Yeah, you know, hey,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I don't want to dive into the t I thing
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: because you've talked about it to the death. But I
• 29:47
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• 29:52
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• 29:54
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• 29:57
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• 30:05
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  Speaker 1: you use this clip and no, I was just I
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  Speaker 1: was just curious, like like the initial just kind of conflict,
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  Speaker 1: like what what did it? What was the origin of it?
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  Speaker 1: It was some petty stuff. Like me and him, we
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  Speaker 1: actually have each other number. We probably text and uh
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  Speaker 1: we talked about me coming on his podcast and him
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  Speaker 1: coming on mine. So we go, we go schedule. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we we go scheduling where we're filming both at
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  Speaker 1: the same time. So we talked, We had dialogue on it.
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  Speaker 1: the South. Yeah, two kings. And at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, we both talked about it, laughed about it,
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  Speaker 1: and he was like the movie. Yeah, he was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: we was kids, so you know, it's it's all to
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  Speaker 1: the g. But it was petty and I've moved past it. Man,
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  Speaker 1: that's beautiful. Man. Yeah, you and Zero this is your
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: So you guys have two joint projects. We did Kings
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: of the South Part one and Part two is coming
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: or Part two is coming, Yeah, and part two is
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: just like music. Like Kings of the South one, we
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: was in a different mode back then. It was you know,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: a lot going up. But part two of the fans
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: keep asking because he's the King of the ghetto and
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I'm the freestyle king, you know what I mean. So,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: and that's one of the big things even with my
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: movie I'm working on, It's Kyle King Life. It's about
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: like people fighting for that one spot. But if you
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: really go back to back in the days, like it
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: was multiple kings, King ruled this area and this radio
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: of course of course, right, so we're so competitive and
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: hip hop and then not you know where we come from.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: You want to be the number one guy, you know
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: what I mean, But you can bet the number one
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: guy in your section you can beat. So that's what
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: my movie is about, like people coming together. You know,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: everybody want that number one spot, but hey, we all
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: can be number one. Do you think zero gets enough
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: flowers in terms of just like I feel like somehow
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: like he obviously being incarcerated during a lot of that
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: era of h Town but like in terms of just
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: like his ability as an artist. You know, he's obviously
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: a legend in your city, and I just feel like
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: he never probably got his his flowers nationally that he
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: probably deserves. I don't feel like they play zero music
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: like they need to, right, you know what I mean,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: unless you go to Houston and they played, but they played.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: You know, his fan base is crazy. You know, he's
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: got a crazy and I fel feel like they go
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: see That's why that was one of the main things
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: why it was so important for me to put Free
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Him on my cover because a lot of times, you know,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: it's a stigma of when you get this major deal
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: the record label, you know they change you, and you
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: know you sell your soul. I believe in God, so
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna compromise my manhood, my integrity, my morals,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: my principles for no money. So that's why all my deals,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I was able to do what I wanted to do,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: even with the g Unit mixtapes. She was asking how
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I get on that, because when I came to New York,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I was saying, if I want to take over New York,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I need to wrap next to the great. So I
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: was with Dipset on all the cam mixtapes doing records,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I'm with g Unit. Buck was already my homie who
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: kid putting me on mixtapes and stuff like that, so
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I had to go in, like y'all want, I'm gonna
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: show you that it's some people from Houston that don't
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: just wrap up by popping trunks and candy paint. I
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: rap about that shit as well, but I know how
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: to limit how much I talk about that because I'm
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: thinking worldwide. But back to Zero, I just wanted to
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: go into that g Unit. How did I end up
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: on the mixtapes because I knew I needed to rap
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: next to the greats and showed them that somebody in
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Texas can rap as well, you know what I mean?
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: And so but yeah, with Zero man, that dude, bro.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: When we get in the studio, our vibe is like
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: me and my cousin, Big Shasta, Me and Big t
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: rest In Piece. Big t He's the one who sung
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the hook to want to be a bottle he died.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: So those are the three people that when I get
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: in the studio, it's like, you know what I mean, Magic,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? All that, Like we just
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: get we get it in and his hooks and and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the way he constructed his melodies. He was actually the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: first you know rapper really you know, singing and rapping.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you know, shout out to him. Yeah, yo,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like some did somebody just try sampling Sunshine
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: or just put out like a remix, like a new
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: verse version of it. Am I tripping? Man, it's funny.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: It's funny. It's funny. You said that because I'm trying
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: not to give away. But okay, so look, or maybe
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: someone played me a sampled version of it that isn't
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: out yet or something. I just feel like it's about
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: time somebody tries to put remake Sunshine. Bruh. It's crazy.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: So it's a two way part to that story. I'm
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: not gonna say who the artist is, but okay. So
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: on the way out here though, I got a d
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: M and artist hit me and it was like hey man,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I remade, well what's your information? You know what's going on?
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: O G And we exchange information. Then he called I text.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I text like hey, this meet like me. Then he
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: called you know what I'm saying, I just gave the gender.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Huh yeah, yeah, he called it's a guy. It's a guy.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: So he hit me up and he was like, man,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I remade you know the record, Sunshine flipped it and
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: he was like, I gotta let you hear it. And
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: we talked a little business or whatever. Major artists, like
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: a major label artist rather major major. Yeah yeah, yeah, major,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah. It's crazy part one of his plaques and
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: his motherfucker. But I'll tell you off the air. I
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: can tell you what it is, but we'll make this
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: a bet if you can get if you can guess, Nope,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: it's not y G Nope. So look, you owe me,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: You owe me seven grams of some zaz I. Damn.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like someone played me. I feel like somebody
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: played me a record. And I was like, oh something,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: it's about time someone flipped it. And it's so crazy
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: to peep this though. That happened the other day now,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: a year ago. Another artist was working on the project
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: and hit me and his producer was like, Hey, that's
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: such a great record. And you know what's crazy about
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: that record is it's like, to this day, it still
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: is such a great gold record that radio stations have
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: to play because it's it's like just one of those
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: ones is like, it's never gonna go away, and I
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: love when it come on the way it possessed ladies
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: and stuff. But the other artist, it be like a
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: year ago his producing I actually had recorded a verse
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: on that version. So it's two artists that contacted me
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: to do with the other one. I don't know, it
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: didn't come out or whatever whatever. But yo, so let
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: me ask you this. You're involved in the metaverse. Obviously,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: the crypto shit just crashed pretty crazy. NFTs are crashing
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: like crazy right now. Yea, what is your like thoughts
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: because like, obviously somebody like Snoop Dogg, who's murdering it
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: right now? Right I can't even listen to Doggie Style
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: on Spotify anymore. You got to go buy the NFT man.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how to buy a fucking NFC man.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts just on the whole metaverse?
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: And like, is there a way to to take advantage
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: of it as an artist without worrying about whether or
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: not that n FT market crashes or like, Because obviously crypto,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: NFT metaverse they all kind of go hand in hand,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: but they're also very separate. Because I can go home
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: and throw on my oculas and play a game in
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the metaverse and it's not the same thing as you know,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: so you're obviously doing concerts. You're right, You're you're involved
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: in the metaverse shit like correct, talk about your involvement
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: in that and just your thoughts on that whole shit. Well, see,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of times the communities, they have a problem
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: when a person tries to like, you know, take advantage
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: of that when you try to use So I believe
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: in using the word like utilize, right, and then I
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: believe in reaching my people. So I'm a pain that
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: paint art. Yeah, I do shoes, skateboards, hats. I draw
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: like my jery and my test you know, I mean
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I draw so so like when it comes to art
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: and our people, and you know the percent of people
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: that are labeled weird because we might throw on a
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: green shirt with a orange pair of pans, right, and
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: to the average eye, they'll be like, that doesn't match.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: But when you elevate to a certain level of being fly,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: if you look in the mirror and you like that shit,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: that's all that fucking matters. Right, So everybody has to
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: do something one time to become a trend, right, so
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: the metaverse and just the people that I'm still able
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: to interact with that are fans and that you know
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: that are higher thinkers, people that are looking at life
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: from a different angle. They usually buy into people that
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: are like them. Right, And when you have a brand
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: and you're able to always show the promoter or the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: artists or the fan people that spend money with me
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: or show that they support me, I always go out
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: my way to be like, thank you, I'm gonna take
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: that extra pitchure, I'm gonna give you anxiety pop, I'm
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: gonna do you know whatever the fuck just because you
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: told me my music got you through this and that
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: so I show fans and people love so people that
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: are there wherever my fans are or wherever there are
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: people who strive to surround themselves with great people and
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: make money and leave generation of well behind for their
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: family and not be on some dumb shit. Not easily easily,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: you know, swathe, you know, like I'm creating stuff for
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: people that are thinkers and coming up with different ways
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: that people who want to be involved in the music
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: industry should invest in other artists, Like I'm working on
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: some other apps that's going to actually help a lot
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: of artists get investors and have people around the world
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: to be able to have stake in certain things. Well,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: that's smart because I always I always Because there's a
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: guy named Larussell out of Vallejo, California, so he's doing
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: something similar for his music. He's like, Yo, if you
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: you can invest in this song and I give you
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: a chunk of it from distro kid. Right. So I
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: feel like for up and coming artists, if someone believes
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: in you and if there's a place you could point
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: them to be like, yo, you can go purchase a
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: stake in whatever this album is or whatever, and you
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: can help bankroll what I'm trying to do with it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think that that's that's
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a platform that's missing. Yeah, for independent especially for independent artists.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm one of them type of people. But like,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I want to leave music in better shape, in business,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: in better shape than it was before I came. Right, Like, so,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: if you think about the era that came before me
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and the way their contracts were, some of them still
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: be stres and some of them still suck the contracts
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: contracts stone right, And then think about the artists that
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: came out before them, the people in the fifties and
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: when they were getting paid one penny. It's crazy, and
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: you know, but the cost of living was way lower,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: but still it was crazy. It's still crazy. Wow. So
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: now the era that came after me, in the era
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the artists, they're making a whole bunch of money at
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: a faster rate, you know what I mean. So, you know,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: money management and just it's a lot of different things
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: that you know, these artists should do and learn to
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: do with their money, and learn how to treat people
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: with more respect because you never know when you're gonna
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: see the same people coming down if you come down though, Yeah,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: that's real, yo. Man, Houston's obviously in a great place
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: now two of the biggest artists in the fucking world
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: of Travis and Meghan. How do you feel like, uh,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: just the scene locally is doing right now outside of
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: those two because obviously they're fucking out of here. But
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: just like in terms of just like the underground scene,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I guess, man, I mean, you got as far as
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: like newer artists, you got you know, South sotwalkers killing it.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: You got pro pain has been dope for a while too. Yep,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: you got Max O Cream just put out a crazy
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: record with Benning the Butcher, so I'm trying not to leave.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: You got Toby. I don't know how to pronounce his
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: last name, so I always fuck his name up too,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: so just be He's incredible. Yeah, it's talent out there. Man,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of youngs. It's O M. B. Blood Bad,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: a lady named Lady Ices. She's on the Freshman cover.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: So it's like a it's a lot of artists. Man,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I don't want to forget. It's crazy too because now
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: like I feel like Houston without even I don't feel
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: like we acknowledge Houston is like one of the big
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: cities still, like right now if you really look at
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: like who's popping and hip hop like Houston is like
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: and also people love to go to Houston and record.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Houston is like a place people really enjoyed it just
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah yeah. Not a lot of the artists
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: they come out. I know people who just who moved there.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of people just live there because there's
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: no state tax. The food's good, clubs are amazing. Property
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: property is not too crazy. Oh yeah, now that's where
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: you we play Monopoly out there, Twelopoli board game. Like bro,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: we that's why we love it where we're at. Yeah
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: we can, we don't. Yeah, we don't never have to leave.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: If we never, you know, wanted to leave, we would
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: be kind of in the middle of everything. Quick flights Atlanta,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Quick flight to La Yeah, the hug Man and when
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: y'all do go to Houston, When y'all do go to Houston,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Turkey leg hut, get the Alfredo. Is that your spot?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Now that's my homie Lynn and his wife. What Turkey
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: leg hut? Yes, Hey, get the Alfred of the shrimp
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Alfredo Turkey leg with the rice. That sounds amazing, like
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: it's like stuffed and man, now I'm hungry. Oh yeah,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I am too, as soon as I get done with this.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: But there it is. Look little flip new music coming,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all the freestyle three, coming to the freestyle three.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: We're gonna get to some freestyling. Oh yeah. August nineteenth
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: man for YouTube video definitely. Then after that I'm dropping
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: funds and filip and then you know, me and zero
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: we got kings in the South part too. On tonight
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: videos out right now doing numbers. Check it out. Flipp
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: and zero f A Lovey f A The Homies. Yes,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: sir F is a good guy man. He did, let's
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: get it.