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#2524 - Rupert Lowe · The Joe Rogan Experience

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Speaker 1: Jo podcast check it out. But Joe Logan Experience Trained
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Speaker 2: It's my pleasure.
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Speaker 1: And thank you to Brett Weinstein, Jordan Peterson and Elon
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Speaker 1: Musk for helping connect us.
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Speaker 3: Well, we are going to see Elon on Sunday, so
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Speaker 3: he's been an incredible support for us.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know how you want to play the
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Speaker 3: I'm totally in your hands. I'll follow your lead. But
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Speaker 3: I mean he's been helping us because Britain's in bad shape.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, and that's why you're here. And this is
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Speaker 1: what we're talking about.
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Speaker 3: Talking with the rape gang We've we've done this is
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Speaker 3: a we've crowdfunded this, okay, which I'm very happy to
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Speaker 3: talk to you about, which just.
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Speaker 1: This title of that rape gang report. Yeah, the idea
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Speaker 1: that there's rape there's actual rape gangs in the UK
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, and it's is it being ignored?
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Speaker 1: Is it being down like, how is it being received
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Speaker 1: by the media and by the politicians over there.
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Speaker 3: Well, the history of it is that basically, as you
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Speaker 3: probably know, Britain after the war decided they were going
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Speaker 3: to play a part in Europe, a bigger part in Europe.
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Speaker 3: Are elite, did the British elite, And to do that
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Speaker 3: they had to basically diminish the power of the nation
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Speaker 3: state and they had to head towards this European superstate,
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Speaker 3: which is the EU. The genesis which was obviously why did.
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Speaker 1: They have to diminish the power of the nation to
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Speaker 1: do that.
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Speaker 3: Because I think Britain was a proud nation state with
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Speaker 3: with the American help, we'd won the war and we
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Speaker 3: hadn't been invaded or conquered, which most of Europe had been.
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Speaker 3: So you'd had mass dislocation in Europe. Huge numbers of
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Speaker 3: people had been dislocated and pushed all over Europe. And
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Speaker 3: I think the socialists. I was in the European Parliament,
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Speaker 3: so I spent a brief time as an MEP, a
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Speaker 3: member of the European Parliament. When we finally achieved well
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Speaker 3: a kind of Brexit, we can talk about that, but
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Speaker 3: it wasn't a proper Brexit. So I think the genesis
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Speaker 3: of the rape gangs. Going back to this was the
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Speaker 3: fact that multi culturalism was the order of the day.
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Speaker 3: They wanted open borders, they wanted a multicultural society. They
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Speaker 3: basically felt the nation state had been the cause of
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Speaker 3: world wars effectively starting with Napoleon. Then obviously we had
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Speaker 3: the Kaiser, then we had Hitler, and I think they
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Speaker 3: saw it that way, the Monaes, the Spinellas and the
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Speaker 3: people who constructed the European Union. So to the rape
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Speaker 3: Gang report, which was your question, ultimately that the genesis
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Speaker 3: of that is this multicultural invasion a most of Europe.
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Speaker 1: Can I positive for a second. So what you think
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Speaker 1: is that the multicultural invasion, the way it was set up,
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Speaker 1: was on purpose, and it was on purpose to sort
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Speaker 1: of diminish the idea of nationalism.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think that, well, i'm.
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Speaker 1: And so this was like a long plan. So this
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Speaker 1: was something that they must have had to sit down
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Speaker 1: and like who would be involved in this sort of
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Speaker 1: a discussion where you would be willing to diminish patriotism,
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Speaker 1: diminish this idea that Britain by itself as exceptional and
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Speaker 1: the people are exceptional.
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Speaker 3: It was a long, deceitful plan, so I always so
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Speaker 3: implemented it. The European elites in league with our elite,
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Speaker 3: who effectively, if you remember in nineteen seventy five we
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Speaker 3: had what was we joined what was called the European
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Speaker 3: Economic Community. It wasn't effectively anything other than an economic union,
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Speaker 3: but that very quickly changed and effectively. They tried to
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Speaker 3: politically integrate Europe. That failed, and then in ninety seven
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Speaker 3: they tried to force it through with the introduction of
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Speaker 3: the Euro. So having failed politically, they tried to do
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Speaker 3: it financially. That was my first foray in to standing
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Speaker 3: as a member of Parliament to fight to save the
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Speaker 3: British pound, because once you lose your currency, effectively you
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Speaker 3: lose your sovereignty and a national identity, and our gold
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Speaker 3: reserves were going to be shipped out to Germany, to
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Speaker 3: Frankfurt and we would have become a vassal stay part
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Speaker 3: of the European Union. It would have been irreversible. But
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Speaker 3: in the event we thanks to Sir James Goldsmith, we
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Speaker 3: secured enough votes we forced the Establishment to promise a
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Speaker 3: referendum before they surrendered to the Euro and we ended
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Speaker 3: up saving the pound, which in the end resulted in
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Speaker 3: the referendum in twenty sixteen where the British people voted
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Speaker 3: to take back their sovereignty, which ultimately I think the
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Speaker 3: establishment always knew that the core, the body of Britain
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Speaker 3: or body of England in particular, wanted its own accountable
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Speaker 3: parliament in Westminster. It didn't want to be part of
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Speaker 3: an unaccountable European socialist protection is super state.
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Speaker 1: So the quote unquote elites in Britain and the elites
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Speaker 1: the United States, it's coordinated with both of them.
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Speaker 2: So I think less so in America. Joe.
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Speaker 3: I can't speak for America, although when you look at
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Speaker 3: what the Democrats did with USAID and all the stuff
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Speaker 3: that was going on under Joe Biden, you have to
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Speaker 3: wonder whether they began with the World Economic Forum to
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Speaker 3: play a part in this. But I think the post
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Speaker 3: war plan for Europe was founded on as socialist principle,
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Speaker 3: whereas I think America has always been a very sound
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Speaker 3: politically based structure, based on obviously, you know, the founding
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Speaker 3: fathers and your constitution, which I always think returns power
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Speaker 3: to the individual and has always understood that the dangers
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Speaker 3: are status dangers, not individual dangers. So I'm very much
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Speaker 3: in the camp I like the individual and a minimal state,
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Speaker 3: and I think that's much more in your DNA than
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Speaker 3: it is in the European DNA, which tends to be
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Speaker 3: more statist.
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Speaker 1: Right, So they did this on perse and they brought
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Speaker 1: in people from what country specifically.
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Speaker 3: Well, initially you got in Britain, You've got people from Africa.
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Speaker 3: You've got the wind Rush generation, so you've got a
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Speaker 3: lot of Africans came ostensibly to fill jobs that they
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Speaker 3: always say the British people don't want to do. And
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Speaker 3: it gathered momentum. It was relatively slow to start with,
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Speaker 3: so you had an influx of people coming to the UK.
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Speaker 3: You had open borders in Europe, so one of the
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Speaker 3: absolute embedded rules they have is this freedom of movement concept,
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Speaker 3: so they don't have effectively national borders. But we still
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Speaker 3: obviously had the Channel, but we embraced this and we
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Speaker 3: started this immigration. What happened is it gradually happened. And
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Speaker 3: I think these rape gangs have been going on, or
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Speaker 3: we know they have for thirty forty probably fifty years
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Speaker 3: to a lesser extent, But when Tony Blair got in
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Speaker 3: and he undermined a lot of constitutional, sort of historical law,
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Speaker 3: you got an acceleration of immigration from other parts of
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Speaker 3: the world, not not just from Europe but also from
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Speaker 3: other countries South Asian countries in particular who came to
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Speaker 3: the UK and the genesis of the rape gangs really is,
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Speaker 3: I think the cultural oil and water mix of these
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Speaker 3: people coming from what I call clannish societies in South
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Speaker 3: Asia and joint coming to very high trust societies such
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Speaker 3: as the one we had and the one you have here,
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Speaker 3: which have taken thousands of years to develop. So there
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Speaker 3: high trust societies where and you know, Lequan, you based
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Speaker 3: Singapore on post war Britain where you could you had
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Speaker 3: you had honesty boxes for newspapers in London, and you
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Speaker 3: had a country that was completely at peace with itself.
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Speaker 3: So it won the war, it respected peace, it respected freedom,
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Speaker 3: and people were building, rebuilding their lives having fought a
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Speaker 3: Second World War to free Europe from sort of in
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Speaker 3: this case Germany. Previously we'd done it at Waterloo when
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Speaker 3: we relieved Europe of the French with Napoleon. So it
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Speaker 3: really accelerated after ninety seven when a lot of the
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Speaker 3: legislation that Tony Blair and his cohorts passed, such as
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Speaker 3: the Human Rights Act which embeds within it the ECCHR.
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Speaker 3: He created the Supreme Court. They passed laws like the
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Speaker 3: Equalities Act and their raft of other legal acts they
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Speaker 3: passed which effectively empowered a multicultural society which in some
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Speaker 3: ways I think damaged the interests of the British people.
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Speaker 1: And you think this is on purpose, And this is
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Speaker 1: my point is what is the benefit for them to
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Speaker 1: be joined up with the rest of Europe? Is it
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Speaker 1: just purely financial? Is it a power based strategy where
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Speaker 1: if you can diminish the quality of life for people
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Speaker 1: and institute more laws and put more restrictions on them,
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Speaker 1: you can control them easier. And it's let's push back
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Speaker 1: for the politicians, push back for the people that are
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Speaker 1: in charge.
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Speaker 3: Basically, yes, I think it's the age old battle between
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Speaker 3: individualism and collectivism. So I think the EU is a
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Speaker 3: collectivist construct, whereas I think Britain as it was under
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Speaker 3: our constitution, our Bill of Rights, which is you probably
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Speaker 3: know our Bill of Rights in a sixteen eighty nine.
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Speaker 3: A lot of that was lifted to by your founding
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Speaker 3: fathers who embedded it within the US constitution. So and
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Speaker 3: that embeds freedom of speech, it embeds the individual, embeds
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Speaker 3: all of the rights that I think make the Anglo
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Speaker 3: Saxon world great.
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Speaker 1: So how did it deteriorate to the point where they're
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Speaker 1: arresting twelve thousand people a year for social media.
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Speaker 3: Posts show its shocking and this is why I have
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Speaker 3: got involved in politics. I've been involved in politics since
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Speaker 3: I fought the Master of Treaty and then stood. As
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Speaker 3: I said in ninety seven, I did a lot for business,
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Speaker 3: for Sterling, a lot for vote Leave. Then I stood
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Speaker 3: for the Brexit Party and I was elected there. So
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Speaker 3: I've been fighting this march towards an unaccountable state which
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Speaker 3: effectively rewards collectivism and punishes individualism to the extent that
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Speaker 3: now I find myself at the age of sixty eight,
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Speaker 3: as an MP running a party called Restore Britain to
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Speaker 3: try and reverse this tide, to re empower the individual,
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Speaker 3: to return to our original constitution, and to protect the
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Speaker 3: interests above all else of the British people to whom
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Speaker 3: I think government should be accountable.
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Speaker 1: Do they still have that kind of unchecked immigration? Is
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Speaker 1: it currently ongoing?
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Speaker 3: We still have illegal migrants arriving by vote They can't
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Speaker 3: be under the current laws and treaties that were part
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Speaker 3: of that are not being deported. The judges, thanks to
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Speaker 3: the creations of the Supreme Court they are now a
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Speaker 3: quango awoke quango. I think a lot of our judiciary
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Speaker 3: is corrupt. So the answer question is, we still have
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Speaker 3: illegal migration, and we have people living in Britain illegally.
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Speaker 3: We have a lot of foreign prisons in our prisons,
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Speaker 3: and we have people who've come in under various waves
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Speaker 3: of immigration, one of which the biggest of which was
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Speaker 3: probably under Boris Johnson, who was actually a Conservative Prime minister,
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Speaker 3: who allowed thousands, hundreds of thousands of people to come
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Speaker 3: into Britain. And basically they are now a burden to
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Speaker 3: the British taxpayer. So the answer question is they're arriving
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Speaker 3: illegally still, they're living here illegally or living in Britain illegally. Still,
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Speaker 3: we've got foreign criminals in our prisons, and we've got
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Speaker 3: we've still got the legacy of this huge amount of
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Speaker 3: immigration which took place.
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Speaker 1: And are a lot chars percentage of these people receiving
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Speaker 1: welfare from yes, the British government, Yes what percentage?
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Speaker 3: Well, most of the people who arrival, they're all supported.
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Speaker 3: I mean they're put into as soon as you get
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Speaker 3: there in parliament, I see the contracts. Thanks to my
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Speaker 3: parliamentary questions. I'm allowed to ask questions and scrutinize the contracts.
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Speaker 3: For instance, the Bibi Stockholm as it was a boat
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Speaker 3: which costs the British taxpayer one and a half billion pounds.
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Speaker 3: It's actually now lying redundant and not being used. But
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Speaker 3: I've seen the contracts for these illegal migrants in terms
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Speaker 3: of the laundry services they get, in terms of the
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Speaker 3: taxi services they get, in terms of the food they require.
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Speaker 3: I mean literally, it is like it's like staying in
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Speaker 3: a very comfortable hotel, and we've now got these people
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Speaker 3: being settled all across our country. How many in hotels? Well,
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Speaker 3: I don't think the government knows, Joe, answer your question.
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Speaker 3: I don't think they know how many people are living
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Speaker 3: in Britain illegally.
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Speaker 1: Was the similar situation that America had over the last
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Speaker 1: four years, where on the low number they think it
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Speaker 1: was ten million people came in, which is insane. It's
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Speaker 1: an insane amount of people to come in in four years.
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Speaker 3: We think there's enough work to do initially to detain
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Speaker 3: and deport people who are arriving illegally. I mean, to
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Speaker 3: my mind, illegal means illegal. It's fairly straightforward to the
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Speaker 3: people who are arriving illegally, people living here illegally, the
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Speaker 3: foreign criminals. There's plenty of work to do to remove
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Speaker 3: them from Britain. And then I think we need to
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Speaker 3: turn our attention and that's in our mass Deportation document.
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Speaker 3: I've given you a copy of that which effectively sets
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Speaker 3: out the constitutional reasons why we have a problem, how
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Speaker 3: we correct those constitutional issues, and how we then practically
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Speaker 3: detain and deport the people who aren't supposed to be here.
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Speaker 3: And once we've done that, well, then turn our attention
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Speaker 3: to people who are living in Britain, to your point,
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Speaker 3: who are on welfare, who are going to cost the
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Speaker 3: taxpayer of fortune for the of their lives, probably, who
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Speaker 3: aren't working, who are culturally different to us, who have
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Speaker 3: a different view of their religion to the Christian religion,
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Speaker 3: and are increasingly living in small groups of people who
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Speaker 3: haven't integrated, who are living under Sharia law, and who
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Speaker 3: have their own courts, and who have their own court,
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Speaker 3: they have their own court sharer courts. Yes, parallel a
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Speaker 3: parallel legal system.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's unrecognized by the British government. Parallel legal
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Speaker 1: system that exists inside of English it's tolerated, tolerated, So
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Speaker 1: it's they're aware of it, yes, and they're aware of
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Speaker 1: the punishments that this court dishes out.
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Speaker 3: It's rather like they're policing their own people under their
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Speaker 3: own laws.
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Speaker 1: And they're just allowing that that.
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Speaker 3: They're allowing that you have WHOA Now, Now, I believe
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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I believe if you
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Speaker 3: come to our country, you should live under our laws.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean the idea of well United States
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Speaker 1: in particular is a melting part. And you know, people
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Speaker 1: will come from all over the place and it's one
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Speaker 1: of the cool things. It's all these different cultures. But
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Speaker 1: there's certain cultures that if you allow them to come
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Speaker 1: into your community and then they institute the laws of
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Speaker 1: the country where they came from, you're going to have
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Speaker 1: a real problem. Like they don't live the way you live.
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Speaker 1: They don't have the same respect for women that you have,
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Speaker 1: they don't treat them the same way. They don't allow dogs,
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Speaker 1: like there's a lot of like stuff that a lot
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Speaker 1: of people might not even be aware that come with
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Speaker 1: that problem. It's like the idea is supposed to be
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Speaker 1: that Western society is inclusive and progressive because we're intelligent
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Speaker 1: and educated and we care. But you can care so
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Speaker 1: much that you let in criminals and then you give
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Speaker 1: those criminals all your money, and then the criminals can
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Speaker 1: take over your country, slowly but surely. And this is
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Speaker 1: the no one thinks that's a possible thing. People look
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Speaker 1: at the coliseum, you look at ancient Greece, and they think, wow,
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Speaker 1: I wonder what happened to those guys. What do you
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Speaker 1: think happened? Probably the same shit that's happening right now
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Speaker 1: to England, the same shit that could have happened to America.
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Speaker 1: It's civilizations fall apart for various reasons. And one great
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Speaker 1: way to get them to fall apart is to bring
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Speaker 1: in a bunch of people and they don't have to
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Speaker 1: follow your laws, and they bring the laws of you know,
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Speaker 1: wherever they're from, whatever fundamentalist religion country they're from, where
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Speaker 1: they have a bunch of crazy laws that are kind
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Speaker 1: of archaic.
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Speaker 2: Well, this is Sharia LRD Islamic laws. You probably know.
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Speaker 3: I mean, again, to your point, I think the best
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Speaker 3: example I can give people of what happens if you
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Speaker 3: do that is when Lebanon got its got its independence
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Speaker 3: in nineteen forty eight. They were Christian country and they
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Speaker 3: were very confident country that they were. You know, they
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Speaker 3: had the best universities, They had a very open society.
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Speaker 3: I never went to Beirute. I don't know if you
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Speaker 3: went to Beyrout, but by route in the sixties was
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Speaker 3: meant to be the best place on earth to be
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Speaker 3: a great wine freedom, very enlightened. It was a great
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Speaker 3: lots of people were there. The minute that the Muslim
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Speaker 3: population went over about fifteen percent, you started to get
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Speaker 3: a problem with a civil war. You've got the Druz
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Speaker 3: and Marinite Christians in a civil war with the Muslims,
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Speaker 3: and now Lebanon's is a Muslim country and Hesbela, backed
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Speaker 3: by Iran, is effectively running the show. So to your point,
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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. In the rape Gang Report, which
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Speaker 3: is which we've written, was crowdfunded by twenty thousand concerned
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Speaker 3: english people who we raised, not a huge amount of money.
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Speaker 3: We've raised about six hundred thousand pounds and varying quantities
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Speaker 3: people gave. And we did it because the government will
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Speaker 3: not have a statuary inquiry. So our government and particularly
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Speaker 3: the Labor Party have been presiding over this because it
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Speaker 3: goes to the Muslim block vote. So we have in
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Speaker 3: the UK a system of postal voting, and in a
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Speaker 3: lot of the inner cities and the places where these
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Speaker 3: Islamic populations live, they are or have historically voted labor.
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Speaker 3: That's beginning to change. They're beginning to vote for Muslim
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Speaker 3: independence now. And I sit with some of them at
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Speaker 3: the back of Parliament. So effectively, this inquiry we did.
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Speaker 3: We set out with a completely unbiased view of what
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Speaker 3: we would find, and we did it because we were
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Speaker 3: pushing the government to have a statutory inquiry. And a
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Speaker 3: lot of the reason I got involved in it was
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Speaker 3: I think it was Elon musk Wu triggered he talked
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Speaker 3: about it because a lot of people in the UK,
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Speaker 3: I don't think know the extent to which this has
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Speaker 3: been happening and the length of time it's been happening for.
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Speaker 1: What is that? A failure of your media? Is a
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Speaker 1: failure of the politicians? Like why don't people know about them? What?
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Speaker 3: A total favorite failure of the media, because the media
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Speaker 3: are supposed to be an independent body that holds to
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Speaker 3: account failures of the state. And it's basically because this
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Speaker 3: block vote through the postal voting system, which needs to
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Speaker 2: And in the.
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Speaker 3: Report we cover this, we've covered the reasons why it's
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Speaker 3: so serious and to your point we even cover, as
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Speaker 3: you quite rightly say, the fact that dogs are not
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Speaker 3: liked by the Islamic faith larger beaus Muhammad, like kats
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Speaker 3: he didn't like dogs. And what we wanted to do
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Speaker 3: was interview victims, which we did. We did it properly,
20:51
Speaker 3: took us over a year. We had a rape gang victim,
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Speaker 3: Sammy Woodhouse, who led it. She's got a child by
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Speaker 3: her rapist, and we had a team of people and
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Speaker 3: we literally produced the witness bundles and we listened to
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Speaker 3: the witnesses and then we had a two week hearing
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Speaker 3: in London where people gave evidence and we had a
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Speaker 3: proper barrister who effectively presided over it and then helped
21:19
Speaker 3: us write the report. It's effectively, Graham Smith that the
21:22
Speaker 3: barrister did a fantastic job. And we didn't start out
21:26
Speaker 3: with any preconceived ideas. It started because we read some
21:29
Speaker 3: court transcripts of some of the people who've been found
21:31
Speaker 3: guilty of this, which the government, by the way, has
21:34
Speaker 3: tried to keep quiet. Some of the historical court transcripts disappear,
21:42
Speaker 3: so we've been calling for these transcripts to be kept.
21:45
Speaker 3: Now we've actually tried to make a noise about that.
21:50
Speaker 3: And the more we read this, and the more we
21:53
Speaker 3: carried on with the rape gang inquiry, the more it
21:57
Speaker 3: became clear to us that obviously there's a link between
22:01
Speaker 3: this power and the abuse and and grooming and if
22:08
Speaker 3: you like, damage that was done to white working class
22:11
Speaker 3: English girls, and it does go and in the report
22:14
Speaker 3: we've looked at the reasons why. To your point, there
22:17
Speaker 3: is a cultural difference of opinion between an open, high
22:22
Speaker 3: trust Christian view of women particularly and the Islamic view
22:27
Speaker 3: of women, which is all in the report. So, for instance,
22:30
Speaker 3: the as you probably know, if a woman accuses somebody
22:35
Speaker 3: of rape, and a lot of these Muslims come from
22:38
Speaker 3: pakistanjo that they're predominantly Pakistan, and they're predominantly from one
22:43
Speaker 3: part of Pakistan called Merpoor, and there are some from Bangladesh,
22:48
Speaker 3: there are some from Somalia, there are some from Eritrea
22:50
Speaker 3: that there are other Muslim countries that perpetrate some of this,
22:55
Speaker 3: and of course there are white people who perpetrate rape
22:58
Speaker 3: as well, but nothing on the scale of this. This
23:02
Speaker 3: is quite horrific and our report has effectively uncovered this.
23:07
Speaker 3: I think we've played a part with this report in
23:10
Speaker 3: the government saying that they're going to have now a
23:13
Speaker 3: statutory inquiry because we didn't have any statutory powers to
23:16
Speaker 3: be able to force people to appear at our hearing,
23:19
Speaker 3: and they all appeared voluntarily. The government can actually force
23:22
Speaker 3: people legally to appear. They can actually make it a
23:26
Speaker 3: legal requirement that people attend. We couldn't do that. But
23:31
Speaker 3: there had been reports in the past. There was the
23:35
Speaker 3: j Report in twenty fourteen, and there's been the Casey Report,
23:40
Speaker 3: all of which confirmed that this was happening, and the
23:43
Speaker 3: state still continued to try and pretend it was just
23:47
Speaker 3: happening in a small number of siloed areas where you
23:51
Speaker 3: obviously had a high Islamic population. The state has equally
23:56
Speaker 3: failed to collect data on the crimes that are perpetry,
24:00
Speaker 3: so the ethnicity of the people who are perpetrating the crimes,
24:03
Speaker 3: and from there you can extrapolate once you've got the
24:06
Speaker 3: data as to whether or not you've got an extraordinary
24:09
Speaker 3: problem in one particular section of society. And again, using
24:13
Speaker 3: my parliamentary questions, I've been forcing as much disclosure as
24:18
Speaker 3: I can get, and this is how we've discovered that
24:20
Speaker 3: a lot of the data that should be being collected
24:23
Speaker 3: by the police, particularly by in the National Health Service,
24:25
Speaker 3: by social services. A lot of the data has not
24:28
Speaker 3: been properly collected, possibly because the state does I think
24:33
Speaker 3: know that this is happening, but they don't want to
24:36
Speaker 3: admit that their multicultural experiment, which as you probably know,
24:40
Speaker 3: famously Enoch Powell warned would fail with his speech the
24:45
Speaker 3: Rivers of Blood, speech for which he was heavily criticized.
24:49
Speaker 3: So I think they do know, but they don't want
24:52
Speaker 3: to admit it. They don't want to be called racist.
24:55
Speaker 3: They don't want to and this has permeated the whole
24:58
Speaker 3: of British society since ten People are frightened to be
25:02
Speaker 3: accused of effectively being biased and white, and we're talked
25:08
Speaker 3: about things as you probably I don't know you have
25:09
Speaker 3: it here, unconscious bias and all of the other sort
25:12
Speaker 3: of what I can want. We're woke, DEI driven rubbish,
25:17
Speaker 3: which which has permeated Britain in the same way. I
25:20
Speaker 3: think it may have originally come from from you guys,
25:23
Speaker 3: but it's it's it's certainly had a huge effect on us.
25:27
Speaker 1: I think it had a great grip on us for
25:29
Speaker 1: a few years, and it's lessened its hold well thanks
25:33
Speaker 1: to the Donald. Yeah, yeah, that helped a lot. And
25:36
Speaker 1: I think a big part of it was Elon buying Twitter. Yeah,
25:38
Speaker 1: where you got legitimate free speech, and which is again
25:41
Speaker 1: back to this, twelve thousand people getting arrested each year
25:44
Speaker 1: for social media posts recently, that is, how is that tolerated?
25:50
Speaker 1: I just don't understand how people aren't. I was about
25:53
Speaker 1: to say, up at arms, but that's also part of
25:55
Speaker 1: the problem, is that no one's armed over there.
25:58
Speaker 2: We are.
25:59
Speaker 3: Well, I have actually got some guns, Jose, because I
26:02
Speaker 3: have a farm. So when you come to the UK,
26:04
Speaker 3: I hope you'll come and shoot some pheasants with me.
26:07
Speaker 3: But if you don't have a farm, well, if you
26:09
Speaker 3: don't have a farm, you'll find it very difficult to
26:12
Speaker 3: get a gun of any kind, and even if you
26:14
Speaker 3: have a farm. So Reform tried to politically assassinate me
26:19
Speaker 3: in twenty five early twenty five and made false accusations
26:25
Speaker 3: about me, threatened to hit one of the zero use
26:28
Speaker 3: off in a meeting, and somebody was saying I went
26:29
Speaker 3: around Parliament saying I was a very good shot and
26:31
Speaker 3: I was going to shoot zero us. If I mean
26:33
Speaker 3: is if you believe that I've got a completely clean record.
26:36
Speaker 3: I employ lots of people, I have lots of businesses,
26:38
Speaker 3: and I've never had an issue. But listen, four armed
26:41
Speaker 3: police turned up, took all my guns away. I mean,
26:44
Speaker 3: and I'm a member of parliament. I said to them, guys,
26:46
Speaker 3: you could have just called me up and we could
26:47
Speaker 3: have talked about it. But no, it turned up just
26:50
Speaker 3: from an accusation. Nine thirty at night, left at quarter
26:55
Speaker 3: to twelve. We got them on the cameras, took all
26:58
Speaker 3: my guns, all my amma, and it took me five
27:01
Speaker 3: or six months to get them all back. But look,
27:05
Speaker 3: so they don't want the public to have guns, and
27:10
Speaker 3: they are doing their very best to damage the shooters
27:15
Speaker 3: who perfectly legitimately liked to go and shoot clay pigeons,
27:19
Speaker 3: who liked to go and shoot game, who liked to
27:22
Speaker 3: go and hunt. Effectively, they are trying to make that
27:26
Speaker 3: very difficult through the licensing laws for guns. As you
27:30
Speaker 3: probably know, they banned handguns the nineties, right in the
27:33
Speaker 3: late nineties because there was a murder up in Dunblane,
27:37
Speaker 3: one murder, one murder, so everybody. My father used to
27:40
Speaker 3: shoot pistols for Oxford University and he had he's dead now,
27:43
Speaker 3: bless him, but he had all his pistols were taken away,
27:47
Speaker 3: the gun, the pistols he used to shoot with at
27:48
Speaker 3: Oxford University. I mean, I mean we now have a
27:53
Speaker 3: society which needs radical change and we need to release
27:57
Speaker 3: the individual. And to your point on social media posts,
28:01
Speaker 3: there was a lovely lady, Lucy Conley who was locked
28:05
Speaker 3: up for something for thirty two months for just a
28:08
Speaker 3: very emotional social media post which she deleted after four
28:14
Speaker 3: hours about the Southport killings where this chap Axel Rudderkabana
28:20
Speaker 3: went and knifed three young girls and killed them, despite
28:24
Speaker 3: the fact that the British state through prevent was aware
28:27
Speaker 3: of this. And we've had a similar case recently with
28:30
Speaker 3: Henry Novak, where again it was actually I think on
28:34
Speaker 3: this occasion, a seekh stabbed him and the police despite
28:39
Speaker 3: the fact when they arrived at the scene he told
28:42
Speaker 3: them he'd been stabbed. The police didn't believe him and
28:46
Speaker 3: they tried to handcuff him and as a result of that,
28:50
Speaker 3: it's arguable that they opened up the wound, the stab wound,
28:53
Speaker 3: and he drowned in his own blood. Meanwhile, his murderer
28:57
Speaker 3: was never handcuffed. This is where the British state has
29:01
Speaker 3: gone completely wrong. So instead of one law for everybody
29:06
Speaker 3: and one policing for everybody, this sort of view that
29:11
Speaker 3: the white population is racist, which I don't personally believe
29:15
Speaker 3: them to be. I think Britain is a very torrent country.
29:19
Speaker 1: Do you think that this perspective that society is sort
29:24
Speaker 1: of adopted in the UK about white people being bad?
29:27
Speaker 1: Do you think this was there was architecture to it,
29:33
Speaker 1: this was by design that this was done, or is
29:35
Speaker 1: this just a natural response to people being called racist
29:40
Speaker 1: because there was the core course, in the past, there
29:42
Speaker 1: was more racism than there is today and people always
29:45
Speaker 1: want to point to that racism as you know, evidence
29:49
Speaker 1: of colonialism, evidence of whatever it is that happened in
29:52
Speaker 1: days past. But why in England do you think that
29:57
Speaker 1: narrative took hold so well?
29:59
Speaker 3: Because I think Joe, to your point that this post
30:02
Speaker 3: war plan for multiculturalism, I think they realized that they.
30:07
Speaker 1: Was by design they've got a problem. So part of
30:09
Speaker 1: it was probably infiltrating the universities and promoting these kind
30:13
Speaker 1: of ideas.
30:14
Speaker 3: It's almost as if with the World Economic Forum, there's
30:18
Speaker 3: this view that the Anglo Saxon nations have commanded and
30:24
Speaker 3: dominated too much of the world's resources, and there's almost
30:27
Speaker 3: like this misguided, altruistic view that we should become more
30:33
Speaker 3: concerned with global welfare rather than the welfare of our
30:35
Speaker 3: own citizens, which I totally disagree with.
30:39
Speaker 1: Well, there's also the you will own nothing and you
30:41
Speaker 1: will be happy.
30:42
Speaker 2: Is this is your Claus Schwab, which is.
30:46
Speaker 1: Someone would even say that out loud, you owe nothing
30:50
Speaker 1: and you will be happy? Like is this a part
30:53
Speaker 1: of an or world book? Because this doesn't seem like
30:56
Speaker 1: a real person would say something like that, because who
30:58
Speaker 1: the fuck is going to listen to that doesn't make
31:00
Speaker 1: any sense. What George or has been rather accurate in
31:03
Speaker 1: Tels dead on. He was actually pretty optimistic. Like his vision,
31:07
Speaker 1: his version of the world was a little bit more
31:10
Speaker 1: palatable than what we're dealing with right now.
31:12
Speaker 2: Interesting man Old Etonian fought in the Spanish Civil War.
31:16
Speaker 2: I mean, he was.
31:18
Speaker 3: A very quirky Englishman who clearly had a hugely prescient foresight,
31:24
Speaker 3: and I think probably like certainly like me, he had
31:27
Speaker 3: a healthy disrespect for what I call collectivist statism, and
31:33
Speaker 3: he was very much an individual and a believer in
31:37
Speaker 3: the individual.
31:38
Speaker 1: It's really interesting because when I first read that book
31:41
Speaker 1: was in high school, and I kept thinking, like, what
31:44
Speaker 1: a crazy this had never happened, This is not even possible,
31:47
Speaker 1: But what a crazy world this guy's created in his
31:49
Speaker 1: imagination and things going completely haywire. And then you realize
31:53
Speaker 1: as time goes on, Oh, that's totally possible. It's totally
31:57
Speaker 1: possible that things can get that ridiculous. I mean when
31:59
Speaker 1: you're dealing with you know, male biologically male athletes that
32:04
Speaker 1: can compete against women because they identify as a women
32:07
Speaker 1: and use women's locker rooms. All the craziness that we
32:09
Speaker 1: deal with today, the open border situation. No one's illegal
32:13
Speaker 1: on stolen land? Hey, fuck off, Like what are we
32:16
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Like, what is this?
32:18
Speaker 3: Well, it's almost as if we're if we're subverting all
32:22
Speaker 3: the things that made us great.
32:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, there's nothing wrong with immigration, but
32:27
Speaker 1: there's it's probably a good idea to make sure someone's
32:30
Speaker 1: on a fucking murder before you let them in. Like
32:32
Speaker 1: the idea that there should be no border at all
32:35
Speaker 1: is like if the world was perfect, that sounds wonderful.
32:39
Speaker 1: If the world was perfect, everybody paid their taxes, and
32:42
Speaker 1: everybody followed the loss. Why have borders? Clearly it's not perfect,
32:47
Speaker 1: you know, go to go to Pakistan, go to Karachi,
32:51
Speaker 1: Go go hang out, Go go down the street as
32:54
Speaker 1: a woman in a mini skirt and see how that
32:55
Speaker 1: works out.
32:56
Speaker 2: Go to go to someplace again.
32:57
Speaker 3: This is your quite right, This is I mean, Pakistan
33:00
Speaker 3: is I think the exam Wiles example of a rogue
33:03
Speaker 3: state basically. And I think their view of as you say,
33:10
Speaker 3: women who dress in ways other than the ways of
33:14
Speaker 3: Sharia I totally covered. Yes, And again it's all in
33:18
Speaker 3: various of the Hadiz which we quote in the Rabiang report,
33:23
Speaker 3: they are considered to be meet And this is something
33:26
Speaker 3: I've never understood. How do you square this circle of
33:30
Speaker 3: this sort of clannish, backward looking culture which comes to
33:36
Speaker 3: a highly open, high trust society and then embeds itself
33:40
Speaker 3: within that society and undermines everything that we've achieved over
33:44
Speaker 3: a thousand years.
33:45
Speaker 1: Acknowledging that is somehow another racist. Acknowledging that some cultures
33:49
Speaker 1: are superior is somehow another racist. But by just understanding
33:53
Speaker 1: human rights, understanding the rights of individuals to be free
33:57
Speaker 1: would not be subjected to other people's archaic laws. And
34:02
Speaker 1: this is Look, these a lot of cultures in this
34:05
Speaker 1: world live as people live thousands of years ago. No
34:08
Speaker 1: one in the United States wants to live as people
34:11
Speaker 1: lived thousands of years ago. No one. And this is
34:13
Speaker 1: not a racist thing, like you should be able to
34:16
Speaker 1: come over here and practice whatever religion you want. But
34:19
Speaker 1: if your religion has rules that violate the laws that
34:24
Speaker 1: we've all agree are just and fair, then that you're
34:27
Speaker 1: not integrating. And if you take over a whole town
34:31
Speaker 1: and now that town is subject to these archaic laws,
34:36
Speaker 1: we've got a problem. And if you let that problem
34:38
Speaker 1: get bigger and bigger, they take over the country. And
34:41
Speaker 1: that's an actual possibility for certain countries. And we have
34:45
Speaker 1: to recognize that civilization is not as sturdy as we
34:49
Speaker 1: like to think it is. It's kind of kind of
34:52
Speaker 1: flimsy in a lot of ways. A few bad things
34:54
Speaker 1: can happen, and things can go sideways quite quickly.
34:58
Speaker 3: Well, I think liberty is very fragile, are isn't it. Ultimately,
35:01
Speaker 3: if you don't protect liberty, you lose it.
35:03
Speaker 2: Right. It was Margaret Thatcher who was very strong on this.
35:06
Speaker 3: And you have to have laws, you have to have laws,
35:09
Speaker 3: But what you also have to have is everyone should
35:11
Speaker 3: be equal under the law. Yes, And to your point,
35:13
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. I mean, Britain used to be
35:15
Speaker 3: a very tolerant society. So for instance, Europe was very
35:18
Speaker 3: anti Semitic. Britain was never anti Semitic. We used to
35:22
Speaker 3: welcome a lot of Jews and Protestants from Europe who
35:26
Speaker 3: were being persecuted, particularly in France with the Protestants. So
35:29
Speaker 3: we were a very tolerant society. But the people who
35:32
Speaker 3: came integrated and they contributed, and that is the essence
35:36
Speaker 3: I think of sensible immigration. So it should be limited, targeted,
35:40
Speaker 3: and it should be only people who accept your religion
35:44
Speaker 3: and your culture.
35:44
Speaker 1: And well, what do you do though, if someone comes
35:47
Speaker 1: over here and then they they're not violent any laws,
35:51
Speaker 1: they're not violating any laws, they achieved citizenship. But then
35:55
Speaker 1: they start bringing over more and more people and then
35:58
Speaker 1: start instituting law. What do you do do you deport
36:01
Speaker 1: them all? Like, how do you like this idea of
36:05
Speaker 1: having all these people, recognizing how many people got in illegally,
36:07
Speaker 1: deporting them, mass deportations, deportaining, deporting criminals. It all sounds
36:13
Speaker 1: great until you talk about actually implementing it, Like, how
36:16
Speaker 1: do you do that? How are you doing that? Are
36:18
Speaker 1: you going to knock on people's doors and pull them
36:20
Speaker 1: out of their homes and ship them back to where
36:22
Speaker 1: they came from? How do you do that?
36:24
Speaker 3: I think the first thing you do is you you
36:26
Speaker 3: stop them coming across. How many they shouldn't be coming
36:28
Speaker 3: anyone under international because they're traveling across safe countries, so
36:32
Speaker 3: they shouldn't be coming.
36:33
Speaker 1: What's the estimate of the amount of illegal immigration that
36:36
Speaker 1: you have in Britain?
36:37
Speaker 3: It's almost impossible to say how many people are living
36:40
Speaker 3: there illegally or living with us illegally, but in our paper,
36:43
Speaker 3: I mean we think it's sort of one point eight
36:46
Speaker 3: to two million people probably that's our estimate. But people arriving,
36:51
Speaker 3: we know how many are arriving. There's a lot arriving
36:54
Speaker 3: every day, particularly when the sea is calm. How many
36:58
Speaker 3: arrive every day they're coming? We can I mean, you
37:00
Speaker 3: can get a thousand in a day, you can get
37:03
Speaker 3: if the seas rough, you get none, because obviously they
37:06
Speaker 3: suffer if they try and cross in little overcrowded.
37:09
Speaker 2: Thing is that they can't get across.
37:12
Speaker 3: But we're paying the French over half a billion Panzya
37:15
Speaker 3: to try and stop it that I think is not happening.
37:20
Speaker 3: And as a result of that, you know, our border
37:22
Speaker 3: patrol picks them up, gives them bottles of water, brings
37:25
Speaker 3: them in and settles them in in hotels and pays
37:30
Speaker 3: them well, pays them welfare. They become and then they
37:33
Speaker 3: apply for residency and they say there are asylum seekers.
37:37
Speaker 3: I argue most of them at economic migrants. But you know,
37:40
Speaker 3: our woke culture is not protecting the interests of the
37:44
Speaker 3: British people.
37:45
Speaker 1: And it's also a massive incentive if you live in
37:48
Speaker 1: a terribly poor country and you can just get to
37:52
Speaker 1: England and then instantaneously you will get money and housing.
37:55
Speaker 2: That's right, Why would you not do that?
37:58
Speaker 3: Well, not only that, you go to the top of
37:59
Speaker 3: the world lists for dental treatment, which British people don't
38:03
Speaker 3: get the NHS at the top of the way.
38:05
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, they get. They get access to dental
38:08
Speaker 1: treatment that the British people don't get. Correct, correct, Why
38:11
Speaker 1: why do immigrants get access to it?
38:14
Speaker 3: This shoe is the mystery of what our leaders. I
38:19
Speaker 3: don't know what they think they're doing, but they have
38:22
Speaker 3: this misguided view that these people are actually they call
38:26
Speaker 3: them asylum seekers. They say they need to be looked
38:28
Speaker 3: after and protected. They're not the economic migrants. And to
38:32
Speaker 3: your point, if they know there's welfare when they reach Britain,
38:36
Speaker 3: they'll travel across multiple safe countries to get to the welfare,
38:39
Speaker 3: the free housing and all the other stuff. So and
38:42
Speaker 3: then unless you deal with issues like the rape gangs,
38:46
Speaker 3: and you force them to adhere to UK law and
38:50
Speaker 3: respect our laws, our culture and our religion, they gradually
38:55
Speaker 3: set up their own cultures and with their own laws,
38:59
Speaker 3: as I said, And there are large tracts of the
39:02
Speaker 3: country now where we've got these Islamic settlements which effectively
39:08
Speaker 3: operate almost as a sort of parallel society. I don't
39:12
Speaker 3: know whether it's quite the same here, whether you've got
39:14
Speaker 3: the similar thing with the similies in Minnesota you.
39:17
Speaker 1: Do in Dearborn, Michigan. Dearborn Michigan just had a gigantic
39:21
Speaker 1: Islamic parade where you just see tens of thousands of
39:24
Speaker 1: people holding flags and walking on the street. And yeah,
39:28
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy. It's crazy that. And they've also
39:32
Speaker 1: ft things. It's funny about Deerborn is all the progressives.
39:36
Speaker 1: It's very liberal place like welcome, Welcome, everyone's welcome for
39:40
Speaker 1: all cultures. And as soon as they got into power
39:43
Speaker 1: they banned the Pride flag. That was the first thing
39:46
Speaker 1: they did.
39:47
Speaker 3: Well, I'm afraid they have quite strong views on that
39:52
Speaker 3: sort of thing.
39:53
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's why. Yeah, Queers for Palestine is always hilarious.
39:56
Speaker 1: And then you see the meme Palestine for Queers, and
39:58
Speaker 1: it's throwing people off roof.
40:00
Speaker 3: It's like the champ who runs our Green Party is
40:05
Speaker 3: a gay Jew, So I mean he you know, again,
40:07
Speaker 3: he's going to have a problem if these guys get
40:10
Speaker 3: anywhere near power. But that doesn't seem to put the
40:13
Speaker 3: progressives off. They still seem But.
40:15
Speaker 1: This is what's crazy is that their society is complete
40:19
Speaker 1: like Islamic society is completely patriarchal. The women are absolutely
40:25
Speaker 1: second class citizens there. They have completely different laws for
40:29
Speaker 1: how the women can dress, what happens to the woman
40:32
Speaker 1: if someone has sex with if someone has first of all,
40:36
Speaker 1: if they commit adultery, they.
40:37
Speaker 2: Could be killed stone stone to death, to death.
40:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a horrible video where a father did
40:44
Speaker 1: it to his daughter. Yes, you do get these killings,
40:48
Speaker 1: honor killings or brothers. The brother will kill the daughter
40:52
Speaker 1: of the daughter shame and the family. It's like, hey, guys,
40:55
Speaker 1: how are you progressive when you're supporting this. And it's
40:59
Speaker 1: because the concept of not being racist, not being called racist,
41:03
Speaker 1: the fear of that is so strong they're willing to
41:06
Speaker 1: adopt all sorts of things that are the complete antithesis
41:09
Speaker 1: of everything they believe in.
41:11
Speaker 3: Well, in the UK, I don't know you have it here,
41:12
Speaker 3: but the Me Too movement it always it fascinates me
41:16
Speaker 3: that they never seem to say anything about these what
41:19
Speaker 3: I call clannish tribal cultures who have a completely different
41:23
Speaker 3: view of women. And to your point, you know, again
41:26
Speaker 3: in our report, a woman, if she accuses in Pakistan
41:31
Speaker 3: a man of rape, she has to have four male
41:37
Speaker 3: witnesses who actually have to witness and swear that they've
41:42
Speaker 3: seen her being penetrated by the rapist. And you've actually
41:46
Speaker 3: got women in prison because if she can't prove that
41:51
Speaker 3: she's been raped under those rules, then she can be
41:55
Speaker 3: sent to prison. And there are many women languishing in
41:57
Speaker 3: Pakistani prisons for.
42:00
Speaker 2: That very reason. And this is the sort of extraordinary
42:04
Speaker 2: cultural oil and water which just doesn't mixt you.
42:07
Speaker 1: So it's also the mental gymnastics that you have to
42:10
Speaker 1: have to accept that as a part of Britain and
42:13
Speaker 1: because you're progressive, is really crazy. It just shows how
42:18
Speaker 1: these ideologies, these cult like ideologies, can completely defy logic,
42:24
Speaker 1: completely defy common sense and just you have a set
42:27
Speaker 1: of rules that you're supposed to adhere to. If you
42:30
Speaker 1: deviate from those rules, you're a racist. You don't want
42:33
Speaker 1: to be a racist, right, then everyone's welcome.
42:36
Speaker 3: As you say, it's honor killings, it's tribal, it's your
42:40
Speaker 3: first loyalty is to your tribe and your family, not
42:44
Speaker 3: to your host country who's actually got their own laws.
42:49
Speaker 2: There are all sorts of.
42:52
Speaker 3: Hadith rulings which they can use to justify it. I mean,
42:57
Speaker 3: for instance, if they rape they a white girl, that
43:02
Speaker 3: doesn't count in their in their view of life as adultery.
43:07
Speaker 3: So they are effectively taught that a girl who doesn't
43:11
Speaker 3: dress as they would dress is is meet to be abused.
43:16
Speaker 3: And they have these they have these extraordinary sort of
43:21
Speaker 3: cultural views. You see, the completely incompatible in my view
43:25
Speaker 3: with a society like ours, where you know, we are
43:29
Speaker 3: a matriarchal society which respects women. I think we have
43:33
Speaker 3: grown to respect women. Obviously they had. They've now got
43:37
Speaker 3: an omnivotent position within our society, certainly in the UK.
43:40
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's true here too, and quite right they
43:43
Speaker 3: they play a part in our society. They're very, very
43:45
Speaker 3: important part of everything. But again under you know, the
43:50
Speaker 3: the Islamic Code, I think that the Muslims are frightened
43:54
Speaker 3: of female sexuality. It's it's all, it's all there and
43:59
Speaker 3: as you know, you get FGM female genital mutilation. So
44:05
Speaker 3: these these cultures, I think, Joe and to your point,
44:09
Speaker 3: are just incompatible unless you have a very strong government
44:14
Speaker 3: which basically protects it's electorate from any subversive behavior which
44:20
Speaker 3: is not compatible with our values.
44:22
Speaker 1: You keep using the term meet. Is that how they
44:24
Speaker 1: actually referred to it.
44:25
Speaker 3: As that's that's that's how they consider it. What do
44:29
Speaker 3: they say, like, that's it's it's in our report that
44:32
Speaker 3: that's that there was. Actually I think it was. I
44:35
Speaker 3: think it was.
44:36
Speaker 1: Is it a translation?
44:37
Speaker 3: I think Thomas Jefferson, Actually it's in our report. Asked
44:40
Speaker 3: the Barbary pirates about the way in which they treated
44:45
Speaker 3: their their slaves and their women. That was particularly slaves.
44:48
Speaker 3: They just also slaveries is accepted within within Islamic countries.
44:55
Speaker 3: So so I think they have their own codes, they
44:57
Speaker 3: have their own terms of reference. And there is a
45:00
Speaker 3: quote in there. I'd have to look at the report
45:04
Speaker 3: to give it to you, but where one of them
45:06
Speaker 3: does liken white girls not dressing as Muslim girls dress
45:14
Speaker 3: and he does liken it to meet Jesus. And you
45:19
Speaker 3: know that that is an analogy he used. So I mean, yeah,
45:23
Speaker 3: I think that's what they think.
45:25
Speaker 1: This. So this rape Gang Inquiry report that you have
45:30
Speaker 1: just released, the number, I want you to say it
45:34
Speaker 1: because it sounds so crazy if I say it, people,
45:37
Speaker 1: it's going to sound wrong. What the number of people
45:40
Speaker 1: that were victims?
45:41
Speaker 3: The estimate, Well, we've estimated that a minimum of a
45:44
Speaker 3: quarter of a million rapes have taken place. It's probably
45:49
Speaker 3: much much more, Joe, because because we published in here,
45:53
Speaker 3: I think it's a list of one hundred and forty
45:54
Speaker 3: seven parts of the UK where this is happening. Now
45:57
Speaker 3: the government tries to tell you it's happening in Rochdale,
46:00
Speaker 3: you know, one or two Bradford one or two centers,
46:04
Speaker 3: And that's why their statute to inquiry, the terms of
46:06
Speaker 3: reference of that and have been downgraded. So they make
46:09
Speaker 3: it look as if it's not a systemic problem but
46:12
Speaker 3: just a little local problem, which it isn't. So we've
46:16
Speaker 3: listed here and they're all in here, the places where
46:20
Speaker 3: we know it's happening from our Rope Gang inquiry. But
46:23
Speaker 3: every time we publish this, Joe I I people emailing
46:27
Speaker 3: us or sending us messages on social media and so
46:30
Speaker 3: what about red Ruth in Cornwall? What about it's happening here.
46:34
Speaker 3: It's happening here, It's happening here. So I think it's
46:37
Speaker 3: incredibly widespread. And there's other people who've corroborated that quarter.
46:42
Speaker 2: A million figure.
46:43
Speaker 3: That's an incredibly conservative figure. You can't be exact because
46:47
Speaker 3: the state is not collecting the data which it should
46:50
Speaker 3: be doing, and we've been lobbying in Parliament to make
46:53
Speaker 3: sure that the state's collection of the data improves, and
46:57
Speaker 3: then we can actually see the extent of them and
47:00
Speaker 3: you can actually pinpoint it in the same way that
47:03
Speaker 3: we've done it in this report. So this is I
47:07
Speaker 3: think it's linked to organized crime. I think it's linked
47:10
Speaker 3: to the drug trade. I'm pretty sure it's linked to
47:13
Speaker 3: the drug trade, and obviously it's linked to prostitution. So
47:18
Speaker 3: so as usual with an evil like this, and you've
47:22
Speaker 3: got girls who are transported around in the back of
47:25
Speaker 3: pickups and and in cages. And at our rape gang inquiry,
47:32
Speaker 3: we had examples of girls who were raped by dogs
47:36
Speaker 3: and filmed, either ainly raped or vaginally raped and literally
47:42
Speaker 3: watched filmed. And a lot of it's about servitude and
47:47
Speaker 3: about you know, there's other stories in here about women
47:50
Speaker 3: having to lick the face the feet of their of
47:53
Speaker 3: their rapists. It's it's about power, it's about servitude, and
47:58
Speaker 3: it's about the fact that Muslim men are taught to
48:02
Speaker 3: believe that they are superior not only to women, but
48:07
Speaker 3: they're superior to people like you, yourself and myself, who
48:11
Speaker 3: are considered to be if you like, the infidels. And
48:17
Speaker 3: their job is to effectively spread Islam and effectively punish
48:27
Speaker 3: the infidel And as you probably know, in the Crusades,
48:30
Speaker 3: if you lost a saladin and you were a knights templar,
48:34
Speaker 3: a crusader, you had two choices. You either converted to
48:37
Speaker 3: Islam or they killed you. And in the case of
48:42
Speaker 3: a lot of these girls, a lot of them were
48:47
Speaker 3: made pregnant, they were impregnated, and they then had to
48:51
Speaker 3: convert to Islam. Some of them were trafficked to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan,
48:57
Speaker 3: other parts of the world. So look, I mean this,
49:00
Speaker 3: this is a massive national scandal and I'm hoping now
49:05
Speaker 3: I'm an MP, We've written this report and this should
49:09
Speaker 3: stimulate debate. We send a copy of this on a
49:12
Speaker 3: PDF to every MP and we're going to send this
49:15
Speaker 3: printed copy to all of them as well, because everybody
49:18
Speaker 3: in power should look at this and they should start
49:22
Speaker 3: to correct it immediately.
49:24
Speaker 1: You use the term the term is used rape gang.
49:27
Speaker 1: Why why are you saying gang? And this is an
49:31
Speaker 1: organized practice? Yes, yes, So it's not as simple as
49:35
Speaker 1: Islamic men are raping poor white girls. It's that they
49:38
Speaker 1: go out in gangs specifically for this purpose.
49:42
Speaker 3: They these are properly organized gangs who are grooming and
49:47
Speaker 3: abusing young girls as young as ten or eleven and
49:51
Speaker 3: then literally trafficking them around the country. We know that
49:56
Speaker 3: from from from from the testaments we've had. So Originally
49:59
Speaker 3: when I I went into parliament, I was l elected late,
50:03
Speaker 3: so I was elected in July twenty four, so at
50:07
Speaker 3: the tender age of sixty seven. So we heard them
50:12
Speaker 3: being referred to as Asian grooming gangs, which I think
50:17
Speaker 3: is a misnomer because it's unfair on, for instance, the
50:20
Speaker 3: Japanese or other Asian cultures who don't do this. So
50:26
Speaker 3: when we, thanks to Elon Musk, we actually did and
50:30
Speaker 3: as you're quite right, thanks to him giving us a
50:32
Speaker 3: free speech platform, and Facebook's thankfully followed as well. So
50:35
Speaker 3: he's led the charge through his purchase of what was Twitter.
50:40
Speaker 3: So when I got into I gave a speech in
50:42
Speaker 3: Parliament where I didn't. I said, they're not Asian grooming gangs.
50:47
Speaker 3: I'm going to call them what they are. They're Pakistani
50:50
Speaker 3: Muslim rape gangs. So I said this in Parliament. So
50:54
Speaker 3: Jamie Bill drag it up if he goes on to
50:56
Speaker 3: the you know, because everything goes into Hansard. And I
50:59
Speaker 3: gave this speech and it called shock in the House
51:04
Speaker 3: of Commons. Now, I'm not the smartest kid on the block.
51:07
Speaker 3: But what I do in Parliament is I tell the truth.
51:10
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm only interested in telling the truth
51:13
Speaker 3: and getting to the truth and changing way in which
51:15
Speaker 3: we governed. That's what I've gone into parliament for. You know,
51:18
Speaker 3: I haven't gone into this. I give my parliamentary salary
51:21
Speaker 3: to charity. You know, I'm a reasonably successful person who's
51:26
Speaker 3: lived his life. I've been chairman of a football club.
51:28
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're interested in Premier League football,
51:30
Speaker 3: but I was chairman of Southampton, so I built the
51:32
Speaker 3: stadium for Southampton. I used to play competitive hockey and
51:36
Speaker 3: I built up the youth academy at Southampton and I
51:39
Speaker 3: loved the best of my life was when we got
51:41
Speaker 3: to the Cup file in two thousand and three. We
51:43
Speaker 3: lost one nil to Arsenal, but it was the most
51:45
Speaker 3: amazing experience for everybody. So look, I'm not doing this
51:50
Speaker 3: because I want necessarily to be doing it. I'm doing
51:53
Speaker 3: because somebody's got to do it. And if we're going
51:55
Speaker 3: to change Britain, we've got to get the public to
52:00
Speaker 3: into what we're doing. And as I say, i'm not
52:02
Speaker 3: a classic politician, I'm not saying you've got to vote
52:05
Speaker 3: for me. I'm saying that we've got to change Britain
52:08
Speaker 3: by twenty nine or I think the country, from what
52:11
Speaker 3: I can see, is interminal decline. So I sit on
52:15
Speaker 3: the Public Accounts Committee. I see the waste, I see
52:17
Speaker 3: the unaccountability. I see the way in which the civil
52:20
Speaker 3: service does not serve the people which is supposed to serve.
52:24
Speaker 3: I see our debt rising to nearly one hundred percent
52:27
Speaker 3: of GDP. I see massive misallocation of procurement on our weapons.
52:33
Speaker 3: I see fraud in the judiciary. I see all the
52:36
Speaker 3: things that sounds like you're talking about America. Well I'm
52:39
Speaker 3: talking about I'm talking about Britain at the moment, Joe.
52:42
Speaker 1: But I think it's a widespread problem.
52:44
Speaker 3: Well I actually I actually think America under Joe Biden
52:48
Speaker 3: probably was as bad as that. And if you look
52:51
Speaker 3: at what you know, Elon and the boys are uncovered
52:54
Speaker 3: with the USAID and all the misallocation of taxpayer funds,
52:59
Speaker 3: a lot of it to England. Some of it came
53:02
Speaker 3: to woke causes in England. So look, whoever the architects
53:07
Speaker 3: of this are, whether it's the World Economic Forum, whoever
53:10
Speaker 3: they are, whether it's the Builder Burgers, whether it's the
53:12
Speaker 3: Council on Foreign Relations, whether it's whatever malign influence is
53:17
Speaker 3: trying to do this, we have to collectively try and
53:19
Speaker 3: reverse it. So I'm saying to people, if you want,
53:24
Speaker 3: I will do my damnage to reverse it. You know,
53:25
Speaker 3: I've run multiple businesses. I was in the City of
53:29
Speaker 3: London for twenty years, so I know about finance and
53:32
Speaker 3: I will commit to doing whatever I can to reverse
53:36
Speaker 3: this for the British people. But they've got they've got
53:38
Speaker 3: to buy into it. They've got to buy into it.
53:40
Speaker 1: Well, are there people that are in denial that this
53:42
Speaker 1: is happening, that this rape gang problem is real?
53:46
Speaker 3: Oh, without a shadow of a doubt. Labor, what do
53:48
Speaker 3: they say, Well, Labor just tries to look the other way.
53:52
Speaker 1: But when it confronted, when confronted by the numbers, what
53:55
Speaker 1: is their response.
53:56
Speaker 2: Well, we've been demanding a statutory inquiry. In the end,
54:00
Speaker 2: we crowdfunded this, right, What is their response to that?
54:03
Speaker 3: Well, their response to this has been pretty muted to
54:05
Speaker 3: be frank. I mean, the BBC haven't covered it at all. Really,
54:08
Speaker 3: a national monopolistic broadcaster paid for by a compulsory fee,
54:14
Speaker 3: have not covered this as a as a matter of
54:17
Speaker 3: public interest, Nor of Sky, nor properly of the Daily Telegraph.
54:24
Speaker 3: Gb News have covered a tiny Patrick Christis covered one
54:27
Speaker 3: evening of it. Now, this this is a massive national
54:31
Speaker 3: scandal that deserves complete, a complete and utter airing.
54:35
Speaker 1: How does the BBC justify not discussing this?
54:40
Speaker 3: Well, the BBC is part of our problem. So to
54:43
Speaker 3: your point about you know the Democrats, the BBC is
54:46
Speaker 3: a deeply malign organization. So it was set up to inform,
54:52
Speaker 3: educated and entertain and it was set up by Michael Wreath,
54:56
Speaker 3: and Wreath was a highly principled man, and I think
54:59
Speaker 3: at the time it was set up in the twenties
55:01
Speaker 3: was it probably did have a role. But in the
55:06
Speaker 3: digital age where most of the young people no longer
55:10
Speaker 3: watch their news on the BBC, they get their news
55:14
Speaker 3: from whatever their favorite news channels and whether it's Bright
55:18
Speaker 3: Bart whoever they can and get it from, they get
55:20
Speaker 3: it from somewhere else. But if you want to watch sport,
55:23
Speaker 3: you want to you know, basically have your TV. You
55:26
Speaker 3: have to pay the TV license.
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Speaker 1: There's still a problem that I'm sure exists in England,
56:32
Speaker 1: just as it exists in America. There's a certain subset
56:34
Speaker 1: of our society, a large percentage of our society, particularly
56:37
Speaker 1: older people, that things are not legitimate unless they're discussed
56:41
Speaker 1: in corporate media, and that if it's not The New
56:44
Speaker 1: York Times, if it's not on CNN, if it's not
56:47
Speaker 1: you know, fill in the blank, then it can't be
56:49
Speaker 1: completely legitimate. It has to be a fringe thing. It
56:52
Speaker 1: has to be a conspiracy thing. They still need these
56:58
Speaker 1: these sort of legacy establishments to give them the news
57:01
Speaker 1: because that has been the way they grew up, that
57:03
Speaker 1: has been how they were trained, and in their mind
57:06
Speaker 1: they don't understand the internet completely. They don't go on Twitter,
57:09
Speaker 1: and so all that stuff to them is it's just
57:13
Speaker 1: too fringe. So that's always going to be a problem.
57:17
Speaker 1: And if someone like the BBC doesn't cover this stuff,
57:21
Speaker 1: for a lot of people that are woefully ignorant, they
57:25
Speaker 1: can still kind of claim that ignorance and dismiss it
57:28
Speaker 1: because the BBC isn't covering it.
57:30
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. I mean, that's a very good summary
57:33
Speaker 3: because the BBC historically was totally trusted and their news
57:39
Speaker 3: bulletins were designs I say, to be impartial completely and
57:44
Speaker 3: being a public sector broadcast, so their job was to
57:47
Speaker 3: cover matters like this and create debate. But as we know,
57:52
Speaker 3: monopolies go bad. I mean, monopolies in my view are
57:56
Speaker 3: generally a bad thing, particularly in the digital age, where
58:00
Speaker 3: you know, thanks to Elon Musk and what he did
58:03
Speaker 3: with X, I think he has released free speech. I
58:07
Speaker 3: think he has returned some sort of semblance of people's
58:12
Speaker 3: ability to be able to force debate without being bullied
58:17
Speaker 3: by a monopoly like the BBC. So if I ever
58:20
Speaker 3: get near power, I will responsibly defund the BBC as
58:24
Speaker 3: one of the first things I do I think the
58:26
Speaker 3: BBC is dripping poison into the veins of Britain every day.
58:30
Speaker 1: What other examples of what the BBC is doing do
58:33
Speaker 1: you think is dripping poison?
58:35
Speaker 3: Well, I think a lot of their coverage is not objective,
58:39
Speaker 3: it's woke. I mean they're into all this DEI They're
58:42
Speaker 3: into obviously the LGBTQ, plus they're into all of the
58:47
Speaker 3: all of the things which I think, as we said earlier,
58:50
Speaker 3: probably came from this Democrat period, but it's been happening
58:56
Speaker 3: for a long time. I think if you look at
58:58
Speaker 3: the Labor Party again, I don't know if you've ever
59:01
Speaker 3: heard of the Fabian Society. So the Fabian Society is
59:06
Speaker 3: was set up in the in the eighteen eighties and
59:09
Speaker 3: it was basically most of the Labor front bench and
59:12
Speaker 3: most of the Labor Party are members of the Fabian Society.
59:15
Speaker 3: So the Fabian Society. George Bernard Shaw was a member
59:18
Speaker 3: of the Fabian Society. You'll have heard of George Bernshaw,
59:21
Speaker 3: so he it's the most extraordinary organization that their emblem
59:26
Speaker 3: is a wolf in sheep's clothing, as if, as if,
59:29
Speaker 3: as if that doesn't tell you what they're doing.
59:31
Speaker 1: That's the emblem. So can I see what that looks like?
59:34
Speaker 3: That's their emblem. It's a wolf in sheep's clothing. Fabian Society,
59:37
Speaker 3: the Fabian Society.
59:39
Speaker 1: I need to see that. You should have a look
59:40
Speaker 1: at that. I might have to get Shall I tell
59:42
Speaker 1: you what else they do? I need a shirt?
59:43
Speaker 3: So I tell you what else they were? They were
59:45
Speaker 3: eugenicists originally, whoa yes?
59:48
Speaker 1: When?
59:48
Speaker 2: Well, how far about Bernard George?
59:51
Speaker 1: That that is damn crazy.
59:54
Speaker 3: Well everyone should look at the Fabian Society because that
59:56
Speaker 3: runs deep through the veins of life.
59:58
Speaker 1: That is damn crazy.
1:00:00
Speaker 2: What do you think of that?
1:00:01
Speaker 1: That is damn crazy. So, ladies and gentlemen, if you're
1:00:04
Speaker 1: just listening to this, this Fabian Society coat of arms
1:00:08
Speaker 1: is really a black wolf that has a sheep's body
1:00:12
Speaker 1: strapped on top of its back and it's like covering
1:00:16
Speaker 1: its But this is insane, that's crazy. That what a
1:00:22
Speaker 1: what a complete disdain for anybody else's intelligence? Like they'ren't
1:00:29
Speaker 1: even trying to hide it.
1:00:30
Speaker 3: They're just like they're all members of the front bench,
1:00:33
Speaker 3: are all members of Fabiane sciety, So that that coat
1:00:36
Speaker 3: of arms starmer is also a member.
1:00:39
Speaker 2: You want you want to hold anything you want to
1:00:42
Speaker 2: Fabian society, sir.
1:00:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, just for a goof they're gonna be hilarious.
1:00:46
Speaker 2: But no, So that's that runs through the Labor Party.
1:00:48
Speaker 2: So that's all part of it.
1:00:50
Speaker 3: So I think the agenda has been to your point,
1:00:53
Speaker 3: they're infiltrated our education system.
1:00:57
Speaker 1: Uh.
1:00:58
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm proud of our history. I mean,
1:01:00
Speaker 3: Britain stopped the slave trade. It costs us a fortune,
1:01:04
Speaker 3: we did it almost unilaterally, and you know, I think
1:01:10
Speaker 3: on the whole have being a force for good in
1:01:11
Speaker 3: the world, not bad. I'm proud to say that I've
1:01:14
Speaker 3: studied a lot of history. I think there are many
1:01:17
Speaker 3: other cultures, probably the Belgians and the French, who have
1:01:20
Speaker 3: far more brutal than us with their colonies. So I
1:01:24
Speaker 3: think we've tended to leave a legacy where we've tried
1:01:27
Speaker 3: to instill the rule of law. Look at India, look
1:01:30
Speaker 3: at a lot of the other countries that we were
1:01:33
Speaker 3: involved with. They're now flourishing because of the I think
1:01:37
Speaker 3: the structures that we left in place. And it's very
1:01:40
Speaker 3: sad to watch us almost turning in on ourselves and
1:01:44
Speaker 3: having left the legacy in other countries, we ourselves have
1:01:48
Speaker 3: lost sight of of what we should be doing.
1:01:51
Speaker 1: It's just it's really extraordinary seeing the perspective of a
1:01:55
Speaker 1: lot of young people that are very impressionable, that come
1:01:57
Speaker 1: out of universities and have an utter complete disdain for
1:02:03
Speaker 1: these successful societies. And instead of looking at these successful
1:02:07
Speaker 1: societies and saying, well, yeah, people were really terrible in
1:02:10
Speaker 1: the past, but this is a pretty good example of
1:02:14
Speaker 1: how people should be treated equally today. No, it's not perfect,
1:02:18
Speaker 1: but it's progressing in a better direction than it was
1:02:21
Speaker 1: in the past, right, Instead they look to the past
1:02:24
Speaker 1: and everything is built on this horrible history of outrageous,
1:02:28
Speaker 1: atrocious acts, and therefore it must be punished currently, and
1:02:32
Speaker 1: all the people that benefited from specifically white people, need
1:02:35
Speaker 1: to be cast out, they need to be silenced. They
1:02:40
Speaker 1: multiculturalism is the only way to go complete open borders.
1:02:44
Speaker 1: Like the way they look at things is like, how
1:02:46
Speaker 1: do you think these countries got so good? What do
1:02:51
Speaker 1: you think is about America or about England, about any
1:02:54
Speaker 1: of these countries that leads them to be where they
1:02:56
Speaker 1: are today. Well, it's a long history of progress, a
1:03:01
Speaker 1: long history. And along the way, yeah, Like, especially when
1:03:06
Speaker 1: you go back hundreds of years ago, people are fucking terrible.
1:03:08
Speaker 1: They're terrible everywhere. You know, humans are just getting better
1:03:11
Speaker 1: at being people, like pretty recently, But to throw it
1:03:15
Speaker 1: all out and abandon it and to think that socialism
1:03:19
Speaker 1: is going to fix you, Like, do you guys read anything.
1:03:22
Speaker 1: There's not a single example of that not turning to tyranny,
1:03:26
Speaker 1: and their their take on it does is always it
1:03:28
Speaker 1: hasn't been done correctly, and that is so wild that
1:03:32
Speaker 1: people are still willing to swallow that. And the only
1:03:34
Speaker 1: thing that makes sense is they've been indoctrinated through universities
1:03:38
Speaker 1: to think this way, because nowhere in the real world
1:03:42
Speaker 1: do you think that a quality of outcome ever makes
1:03:44
Speaker 1: any sense, Because everybody realizes somewhere along the line, when
1:03:47
Speaker 1: you get your first job, when you're a kid, when
1:03:49
Speaker 1: you're going through school, when you're playing sports, there's not
1:03:51
Speaker 1: a quality of effort. There's never a quality of effort,
1:03:54
Speaker 1: and there's always some people that want to put in
1:03:57
Speaker 1: more effort and they're put in more thought and more
1:04:00
Speaker 1: and they get further and you know, oh, well, they're
1:04:03
Speaker 1: fucking over all these other people. Are you sure that's everything,
1:04:07
Speaker 1: because it seems like it's not, And it seems like
1:04:09
Speaker 1: as soon as you remove any incentive to succeed, then
1:04:13
Speaker 1: you don't have any of the amazing stuff that you
1:04:15
Speaker 1: have around you all the time. The reason why you
1:04:18
Speaker 1: have beautiful televisions and Starlink and all the capitalism you
1:04:24
Speaker 1: have to incentivize people to create these things. Yeah, it
1:04:27
Speaker 1: doesn't mean the only way to do it is to
1:04:29
Speaker 1: fuck other people over. That's not correct. It could be
1:04:32
Speaker 1: done correctly, it could be done humanely. It can be
1:04:35
Speaker 1: done wisely. You could vote with your dollars. You could,
1:04:38
Speaker 1: you know, boycott companies that do things that you don't
1:04:41
Speaker 1: think are ethical. There's all sorts of wonderful ways that
1:04:43
Speaker 1: capitalism could be used and you can sort of influence
1:04:46
Speaker 1: things in the right direction. But to throw it all
1:04:48
Speaker 1: out and say we've got to go socialism, like, oh boy,
1:04:53
Speaker 1: I can't believe people are buying that. I just that
1:04:56
Speaker 1: to me is one of the real problems with not
1:04:58
Speaker 1: allowing conservative voices in universities, and these universities, especially in
1:05:03
Speaker 1: the United States, or a lot of especially like in sociology, psychology,
1:05:09
Speaker 1: and the overwhelmingly liberal Like, surely there's got to be
1:05:14
Speaker 1: some historians out there that are conservative, and they would
1:05:18
Speaker 1: have a different perspective, and it might be good to
1:05:20
Speaker 1: have diversity of opinion as well as diversity of national origin,
1:05:26
Speaker 1: as well as diversity of gender as well as diversity
1:05:28
Speaker 1: of sexual orientations. Yeah, all that stuff's great, but also
1:05:31
Speaker 1: diversity of opinion. Like, the only way to know whether
1:05:35
Speaker 1: or not this person's making sense is to have someone
1:05:38
Speaker 1: who completely disagrees, that has a better point, go up
1:05:41
Speaker 1: against them, and you watch them duke it out. And
1:05:43
Speaker 1: as soon as you silence all that because students don't
1:05:46
Speaker 1: feel safe, or because you know this is promoting X,
1:05:50
Speaker 1: Y and Z, this person's a Nazi. Oh they're a Nazi.
1:05:53
Speaker 1: We can't let them on there. As soon as you
1:05:54
Speaker 1: do that, you ruin the whole thing that a university
1:05:57
Speaker 1: is supposed to be doing. It's supposed to be preparing
1:06:00
Speaker 1: young minds for discourse and for communicating and for figuring
1:06:04
Speaker 1: out the world on their own. They're eventually going to
1:06:06
Speaker 1: be independent and dependent entirely on their own actions and
1:06:09
Speaker 1: decisions and go out there in the world. Figure out
1:06:11
Speaker 1: your way arm them correctly. And the way to do
1:06:14
Speaker 1: that is to expose them to all sorts of different
1:06:18
Speaker 1: competing ideas. The idea that that was ever accepted to
1:06:21
Speaker 1: be shut down in this country, especially in America, is
1:06:23
Speaker 1: each massive failure of the education system just massive. If
1:06:28
Speaker 1: you think that someone has bad points, come up with
1:06:30
Speaker 1: better points and let them do it out, and don't
1:06:33
Speaker 1: pull fire alarms and don't silence them, and don't scream
1:06:36
Speaker 1: and protest and throw things at them. Communicate. This is
1:06:40
Speaker 1: what Anybody who doesn't do that should be shunned.
1:06:43
Speaker 2: I agree.
1:06:43
Speaker 1: If you're one of those people that says no, you
1:06:46
Speaker 1: can't talk to Nazis like shun them. Shut They are
1:06:49
Speaker 1: the enemy of thinking, They are the enemy of progress.
1:06:52
Speaker 1: They are the enemy of finding out what's right and
1:06:54
Speaker 1: what's wrong. And the only way we find that out
1:06:57
Speaker 1: is we communicate free speech. Free speech well, free speech
1:07:01
Speaker 1: and a degree of Darwinism. You have to have what
1:07:04
Speaker 1: we have in the UK. Now is I always say
1:07:06
Speaker 1: reverse Darwinian theory. And again at schools now. In my day,
1:07:11
Speaker 1: I'm lucky.
1:07:12
Speaker 2: We we like to win. To win was good.
1:07:15
Speaker 3: To win fairly in a proper game of hockey or
1:07:17
Speaker 3: rugby or whatever was great. But now in schools winning
1:07:23
Speaker 3: is considered to be bad. Everybody needs to have an
1:07:26
Speaker 3: opportunity to be treated the same in sports often often
1:07:30
Speaker 3: in sport to win, to be seen as a competitive winner.
1:07:33
Speaker 1: You guys don't have wrestling.
1:07:35
Speaker 2: We don't have a wrestling I know you do, you
1:07:36
Speaker 2: do cage fighting and stuff.
1:07:39
Speaker 1: But I mean wrestling, just wrestling as a sport, just
1:07:41
Speaker 1: wrestling for high school and college. Just like wrestlers. Understand
1:07:45
Speaker 1: meritocracy as good as any human being alive, because there's
1:07:51
Speaker 1: no way to make it unless you work hard.
1:07:53
Speaker 3: But isn't this the battle, the age old battle between
1:07:56
Speaker 3: individualism and collectivism. Yes, because the collect likes to curb
1:08:03
Speaker 3: the individual. I like to foster the individual. And I
1:08:06
Speaker 3: think what the state fears most is highly successful, independent
1:08:12
Speaker 3: minded people who are capable of putting their point of
1:08:16
Speaker 3: view and discussing it with each other. So what they
1:08:19
Speaker 3: try and do through the taxation in the UK, what
1:08:22
Speaker 3: they're doing is they're taxing, to your point, people who contribute,
1:08:26
Speaker 3: who work hard, and there are still a lot of
1:08:28
Speaker 3: people who fight very hard to feed their families. They're proud.
1:08:32
Speaker 3: They don't want to be part of this welfare ism.
1:08:35
Speaker 3: You know, they want to provide and they work hard.
1:08:38
Speaker 3: But the state puts everything in their way, or the regulations,
1:08:42
Speaker 3: the rules, the taxes, everything is everything is the force
1:08:47
Speaker 3: is not with them, and that's got to be wrong.
1:08:50
Speaker 3: I mean, I think what you need is a lot
1:08:52
Speaker 3: of successful individual family businesses, communities which are self sufficient,
1:08:58
Speaker 3: communities that respect each other and effectively can have this
1:09:03
Speaker 3: debate with each other.
1:09:05
Speaker 1: You get it the truth.
1:09:06
Speaker 3: And I think as a result of that, most of
1:09:08
Speaker 3: the best inventions have come from the UK, the US,
1:09:12
Speaker 3: from the Anglo Saxon world, where individualism, when it's allowed
1:09:17
Speaker 3: to flourish, does a lot of good for mankind. And
1:09:20
Speaker 3: to your point, I think this is what's been undermined
1:09:23
Speaker 3: by these what I call central planners.
1:09:26
Speaker 1: And a lot of these great inventions in America have
1:09:28
Speaker 1: come from people that immigrated legally from other countries because
1:09:31
Speaker 1: they appreciated what America stood for and they really wanted
1:09:33
Speaker 1: to make something happen and they couldn't do it wherever
1:09:36
Speaker 1: they were from.
1:09:36
Speaker 3: With extraordinay in the UK is we've got a lot
1:09:38
Speaker 3: of support from people who are immigrants into the UK.
1:09:42
Speaker 3: They came to Britain because they respected our structures and
1:09:46
Speaker 3: what they want is they want structure. They don't want
1:09:48
Speaker 3: to see the country. Yes, legal immigrants in America of
1:09:51
Speaker 3: the same perspective. The same legal immigrants in America are
1:09:54
Speaker 3: pretty overwhelmingly against the whole open border idea because it
1:09:57
Speaker 3: took was so hard for them to become an a consitizen.
1:10:00
Speaker 1: It's a very proud moment for them to do it.
1:10:02
Speaker 3: Like a lot of young people at a lot of
1:10:04
Speaker 3: support from young people who are again people are online,
1:10:07
Speaker 3: see this is the thing.
1:10:08
Speaker 1: So young people are much more i want to say informed,
1:10:13
Speaker 1: but at least aware of the issue. They're much more
1:10:16
Speaker 1: aware of things than older people that are just again
1:10:19
Speaker 1: reading the newspaper and watching tele version.
1:10:22
Speaker 3: But don't you think is it may be the same
1:10:23
Speaker 3: here in Britain A lot of them wealth is tied
1:10:27
Speaker 3: up in what I call the baby boomers. So I'm
1:10:29
Speaker 3: a sort of tail end boomercause I'm sixtyeh. But the
1:10:31
Speaker 3: sort of bulk of them are probably seventy to ninety
1:10:35
Speaker 3: and a lot of the pension wealth is held there
1:10:39
Speaker 3: and a lot of the damage that's been done to
1:10:41
Speaker 3: our financial markets has come from a version to risk.
1:10:45
Speaker 3: Risk is a good thing in my opinion, So people
1:10:47
Speaker 3: need to take risk risk. You know, the entrepreneur takes
1:10:51
Speaker 3: risk and he gets reward if he gets it right.
1:10:53
Speaker 3: But if you tax him into oblivium, he doesn't take
1:10:55
Speaker 3: the risk. And what's happened in Britain is the baby
1:10:58
Speaker 3: boomers the wealth all locked up there. They want to
1:11:01
Speaker 3: see their retirement through safely, and not enough money is
1:11:04
Speaker 3: cascading down to the young people to be able to
1:11:07
Speaker 3: build their lives in the same way that the boomers
1:11:10
Speaker 3: were given a chance to make money in.
1:11:13
Speaker 1: This very when you see not enough money is cascading
1:11:16
Speaker 1: down like how so what's the.
1:11:18
Speaker 3: Well, the money is all locked up with these old
1:11:21
Speaker 3: baby moves and that they're more concerned with their pensions
1:11:24
Speaker 3: and their retirement than they are with generating an ongoing
1:11:27
Speaker 3: wealth chain which gives an opportunity for the young to
1:11:30
Speaker 3: be involved.
1:11:31
Speaker 1: So you meaning they're not starting businesses, no very much. Not,
1:11:34
Speaker 1: They're just holding onto their money. They're holding onto their money.
1:11:37
Speaker 1: So that's an England thing.
1:11:39
Speaker 3: In England definitely, I mean, I think it's a big issue.
1:11:42
Speaker 3: I don't know what it's an issue here. Is it
1:11:43
Speaker 3: an issue here?
1:11:44
Speaker 1: Well, there's certainly an issue here with young people feeling
1:11:47
Speaker 1: like the system is completely rigged. Cost of housing is
1:11:52
Speaker 1: through the roof, rent is through the roof. Groceries are
1:11:56
Speaker 1: more expensive. Inflation here is a giant problem. It's a
1:11:59
Speaker 1: giant problem for people that are struggling. We were just
1:12:01
Speaker 1: looking at something the other day on the Internet where
1:12:06
Speaker 1: it was talking about a number of finance a number
1:12:10
Speaker 1: from was it like two thousand and seven or two
1:12:13
Speaker 1: thousand and eight or something like that. There was like
1:12:14
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars and it's four
1:12:17
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars in today. Like that's crazy. Yeah,
1:12:21
Speaker 1: it's like twenty years ago. Like to have something double
1:12:26
Speaker 1: in twenty years And you just think about how many
1:12:29
Speaker 1: people that are coming up. They just feel like AI
1:12:31
Speaker 1: is going to take all their jobs, so they don't
1:12:33
Speaker 1: know what to do. And now they're in student debt
1:12:35
Speaker 1: because you guys have free education over there, which is
1:12:38
Speaker 1: a wonderful thing. I mean, I completely support that idea,
1:12:41
Speaker 1: but in America, these kids get saddled down with debt
1:12:45
Speaker 1: that they can't escape.
1:12:46
Speaker 3: Well, we don't have in England. We don't have free
1:12:48
Speaker 3: education in England. In Scotland they do. Scotland has free education.
1:12:53
Speaker 3: We did used to have it.
1:12:54
Speaker 1: You're quite right, when did it go away?
1:12:55
Speaker 3: Well, now students have to take out lens. And this
1:12:59
Speaker 3: is another shocking So I thowt you.
1:13:02
Speaker 1: Guys said free healthcare and free education.
1:13:04
Speaker 2: We have we have what do you call it?
1:13:06
Speaker 3: Free healthcare assuming you can get a doctor that because
1:13:08
Speaker 3: you know, most people now are having to source their
1:13:12
Speaker 3: own medical treatment because it takes you so long to
1:13:14
Speaker 3: get an operational, to get a doctor's appointment. It's although
1:13:19
Speaker 3: the sort of health service was set up post war
1:13:21
Speaker 3: to provide free healthcare, when it becomes incredibly inefficient, people
1:13:26
Speaker 3: have to seek their own care otherwise they don't get treated.
1:13:29
Speaker 3: But I look, I think with student debt, now.
1:13:33
Speaker 1: Well did they change We're university education.
1:13:36
Speaker 3: It's changed, so so now what year was this? Well
1:13:40
Speaker 3: it's been changed for a long time. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:13:43
Speaker 3: So my oldest son is thirty five, so he took
1:13:48
Speaker 3: out a student lean it was less then and then
1:13:50
Speaker 3: the fees shot up so much.
1:13:52
Speaker 1: What's it like for Oxford? What's a typical how much.
1:13:55
Speaker 2: Well they run up?
1:13:56
Speaker 3: Students will run up debt of in the UK now
1:13:59
Speaker 3: it's not uncommon to run up a debt of sixty
1:14:01
Speaker 3: thousand pounds.
1:14:02
Speaker 1: So it's very similar to what's going on in America.
1:14:04
Speaker 2: Sixty pounds and they're charged the most hideous rate of
1:14:08
Speaker 2: interest on it.
1:14:09
Speaker 1: Do you want to set your laws in terms of
1:14:11
Speaker 1: bankruptcy over there?
1:14:12
Speaker 3: We do have bankruptcy laws, yeah, but do you have
1:14:15
Speaker 3: bankruptcy student debt. You won't be bankrupt days student debt
1:14:18
Speaker 3: there because because the student debt, they just accrue the interest.
1:14:22
Speaker 3: If you go and work in a foreign country, often
1:14:25
Speaker 3: you don't have to pay the student debt back. I
1:14:27
Speaker 3: think it's a thirty year liability. But once you start working,
1:14:32
Speaker 3: then the student debt organization will take interest and principle
1:14:37
Speaker 3: out of your salary.
1:14:38
Speaker 1: In America they forge if you go bankrupt, they'll forgive
1:14:41
Speaker 1: credit card debt, all sorts of other debt, but not
1:14:43
Speaker 1: student loan. It's the one loan that you cannot ever
1:14:47
Speaker 1: be forgiven from. In fact, people who have social Security
1:14:50
Speaker 1: in America, their social security gets docked because they owe
1:14:54
Speaker 1: student loans.
1:14:54
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah?
1:14:56
Speaker 1: It's crazy. You imagine you're at the end of your life,
1:14:58
Speaker 1: you're living on social security and they're taking pieces of
1:15:01
Speaker 1: it for an education.
1:15:02
Speaker 3: They're clearly didn't help you out, Well, I did it
1:15:04
Speaker 3: about you. But in England we've got these ridiculous courses
1:15:07
Speaker 3: in sort of humanities and sort of things that are
1:15:10
Speaker 3: completely abstruse, and these these these kids go and do that,
1:15:15
Speaker 3: these these what I call bullshit degrees, and at the
1:15:17
Speaker 3: end of the day, they come out of it with
1:15:19
Speaker 3: a load of debt and no real skills.
1:15:22
Speaker 1: No skills in a completely ideologically captured mind.
1:15:26
Speaker 2: Very much, sir.
1:15:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that's it's and there's not a lot of
1:15:31
Speaker 1: other alternatives. It's like most universities are left leaning, you know,
1:15:35
Speaker 1: And that's that's the issue that these kids have. You're
1:15:38
Speaker 1: even if you're from a conservative family or kids grow
1:15:41
Speaker 1: up a certain way, send them off to college and
1:15:43
Speaker 1: they're very impressionable, and they're going to get talked down
1:15:46
Speaker 1: to by a professor who's a communist who's never had
1:15:49
Speaker 1: a real job in his life, and he seems so smart,
1:15:51
Speaker 1: and he's very smug, and he insults you if you
1:15:54
Speaker 1: disagree with him, and he is the ruler of the classroom,
1:15:57
Speaker 1: and everybody, like like little kids, they just give into
1:16:01
Speaker 1: this guy's ideas. The next thing you know, you're you're
1:16:05
Speaker 1: organizing on school grounds and you're doing all the same
1:16:08
Speaker 1: things that the other communists are doing, and you're you're
1:16:10
Speaker 1: part of the team. Hey, we're a nice We're gonna
1:16:13
Speaker 1: fix the world. And you don't realize how ridiculous it
1:16:16
Speaker 1: is until like maybe you're thirty five and you have
1:16:19
Speaker 1: a job and then you have a family and you're like,
1:16:21
Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing?
1:16:23
Speaker 2: Like what is this? It does change, doesn't it?
1:16:28
Speaker 1: Show me a young man who's that who quoted that?
1:16:31
Speaker 1: Who is that quote from? Show me a young man
1:16:33
Speaker 1: who's not a Was it liberal or is it progressive
1:16:37
Speaker 1: or whatever it is? Show me a young man who's
1:16:39
Speaker 1: not a liberal, and I'll show you a man without
1:16:41
Speaker 1: a heart. Show me an old man who's not conservative,
1:16:43
Speaker 1: and I'll show you a man without a brain.
1:16:44
Speaker 2: Yeah no, what idente know? Who said that? But it's
1:16:46
Speaker 2: it's a common who's a common thing that?
1:16:51
Speaker 1: It's it's a true Is Churchill? There you go, one
1:16:55
Speaker 1: of your people? Yeah, brilliant and and accurate. And it
1:16:59
Speaker 1: doesn't being good conservative doesn't mean you're not kind silly.
1:17:02
Speaker 1: It's just recognition of human nature. And you can't you
1:17:07
Speaker 1: can't reward people for not putting in effort, because then
1:17:10
Speaker 1: they will find ways to not put an effort. You
1:17:12
Speaker 1: can't reward people for being a quote unquote victim and
1:17:17
Speaker 1: I don't mean a real victim of a crime. I
1:17:19
Speaker 1: mean victimized by society, victimized by circumstance. Victimize. You can't
1:17:24
Speaker 1: weaponize that because people will cling to it. People love excuses.
1:17:30
Speaker 1: Anybody who does sports, you played hockey, people love excuses. No, today,
1:17:34
Speaker 1: my back hurts today, I don't feel up to it day,
1:17:37
Speaker 1: I'm a little tired. I can't do the final lap.
1:17:39
Speaker 1: People love excuses. And when you webinize that and you
1:17:43
Speaker 1: give people incentives to be excused, you give excuses, and
1:17:46
Speaker 1: then you put people on their heels like, whoa, I
1:17:49
Speaker 1: don't want to appear that I'm insensitive. Let's help you out.
1:17:52
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you've got a whole
1:17:54
Speaker 1: swath of society that has a carte blanche over your
1:17:58
Speaker 1: tax dollars for.
1:18:00
Speaker 3: Well, this is obviously what's happened in the UK. When
1:18:03
Speaker 3: I was brought up again, competition was a good thing.
1:18:07
Speaker 3: You know, if you if you if you felt a
1:18:09
Speaker 3: bit rough, you just carried on. You didn't win, you
1:18:12
Speaker 3: didn't moan, you expected to fight for things. If you
1:18:15
Speaker 3: had to set back, you didn't immediately again and cry
1:18:17
Speaker 3: into your bear. You basically got on with it.
1:18:20
Speaker 1: Well, we need to teach people that that's it's character building.
1:18:23
Speaker 1: Like you're going to have rough days and you should
1:18:26
Speaker 1: cherish those rough days because from them you will grow.
1:18:30
Speaker 1: You will grow from your rough days. The downtimes are
1:18:33
Speaker 1: the good ones, because those downtimes really give you the
1:18:36
Speaker 1: motivation and the real firepower to get out of whatever
1:18:41
Speaker 1: situation you're in and improve your life.
1:18:43
Speaker 3: And from adversity comes comes success. Yes, I think it
1:18:47
Speaker 3: comes character for characters and success. Yeah, character for sure.
1:18:50
Speaker 3: I mean it doesn't exist without some sort of adversity.
1:18:54
Speaker 3: But I do think I think the young were also
1:18:57
Speaker 3: badly affected by the COVID, by the response to COVID, Joe,
1:19:01
Speaker 3: and I think you and I share something common.
1:19:03
Speaker 2: I'm a pure blood. I haven't. I didn't have your blood.
1:19:06
Speaker 3: I didn't have those I didn't have those injections. I
1:19:09
Speaker 3: wouldn't go anywhere near them.
1:19:10
Speaker 1: How did you get away with that in the UK?
1:19:13
Speaker 3: Well, I used to go to Australia a lot, so
1:19:15
Speaker 3: because I have some businesses in Perth in Western Australia.
1:19:18
Speaker 3: I love those old rocks in Western Australia, you know,
1:19:21
Speaker 3: the mining, the sort of wild West and cal Gurley
1:19:25
Speaker 3: in places like that, you know, which have got a
1:19:27
Speaker 3: huge historical connection to sort of gold prospecting and stuff.
1:19:32
Speaker 3: So I stopped going. I stopped traveling because it was
1:19:34
Speaker 3: very difficult to travel. But I don't know about you.
1:19:38
Speaker 3: I found the lockdown profoundly concerning. I thought, I thought
1:19:44
Speaker 3: things that I thought were not the norm. I was
1:19:47
Speaker 3: losing everything that made sense, and you know, there were
1:19:52
Speaker 3: things happening that I didn't think could ever happen in Britain.
1:19:57
Speaker 3: You know, it's the state literally took over and it
1:20:00
Speaker 3: frightened people into submission in America, and the young people
1:20:05
Speaker 3: suffered most because they didn't have the opportunity to socialize
1:20:10
Speaker 3: and to your point, discuss ideas and get at the
1:20:15
Speaker 3: truth that they were literally locked up. Everything was online.
1:20:19
Speaker 3: It wasn't it wasn't right. The whole thing was completely wrong.
1:20:23
Speaker 1: And now imagine if you're in high school in America
1:20:25
Speaker 1: and you're in California, your entire senior year, you're you're
1:20:29
Speaker 1: at home, you graduate, you can't even go to a
1:20:31
Speaker 1: graduation because it's too dangerous. Yeah, the whole the whole
1:20:34
Speaker 1: thing was madness.
1:20:35
Speaker 3: Well, Sweden, Sweden got it right, and just taking in Sweden,
1:20:37
Speaker 3: he was a great man, very brave man, and he
1:20:41
Speaker 3: got that right.
1:20:41
Speaker 1: And boy, there was a lot of pushback. It was
1:20:43
Speaker 1: amazing how many people were willing to do the work
1:20:46
Speaker 1: of the government, how many citizens were willing to enforce
1:20:50
Speaker 1: these ideas. It was really shocking. It was shocking to
1:20:54
Speaker 1: watch how many people became lemmings, how many people just
1:20:56
Speaker 1: stepped in line.
1:20:57
Speaker 2: We had people ratting on each other.
1:20:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did it. There were rewarding people in Los Angeles. Yes, yeah,
1:21:03
Speaker 1: they were giving them financial rewards for telling on their
1:21:06
Speaker 1: neighbors that we're having parties.
1:21:08
Speaker 2: That's what happened. In England.
1:21:09
Speaker 3: I have a tennis court in the middle of nowhere,
1:21:12
Speaker 3: so I used to say, come up and pay tennis,
1:21:13
Speaker 3: because it's ridiculous to stop you playing tennis outside. I
1:21:16
Speaker 3: mean absolutely mad. Anyway, they used to come up and
1:21:20
Speaker 3: play tennis and nobody can see it. If they played
1:21:23
Speaker 3: it in the village, then people would report each other.
1:21:26
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:21:27
Speaker 1: In California, we had people report on us because this
1:21:29
Speaker 1: desk is not six feet wide. Seriously, Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
1:21:34
Speaker 1: And then they also said we were talking close to
1:21:36
Speaker 1: each other without masks because there was a bunch of
1:21:39
Speaker 1: people that saw people walk in to the studio and
1:21:42
Speaker 1: we shook their hands, so they were ratting on us.
1:21:44
Speaker 1: And so we had to put a sign up in
1:21:46
Speaker 1: the front door of the studio and we had to
1:21:48
Speaker 1: have a bag of masks, a whole bag of mad
1:21:51
Speaker 1: Do we have to have hand sanitizer?
1:21:52
Speaker 2: Two?
1:21:53
Speaker 1: Did we have that too? I think so. I think
1:21:55
Speaker 1: we had to have hand sanitizer for a while at least.
1:21:59
Speaker 1: But we were getting at it on because this desk
1:22:01
Speaker 1: is too close, so it's not just destinately five feet wide,
1:22:05
Speaker 1: so it's no social distancing.
1:22:07
Speaker 2: This pathetic.
1:22:09
Speaker 1: It was nonsense. It was so crazy. The whole thing
1:22:12
Speaker 1: made no sense, and it completely changed a lot of
1:22:16
Speaker 1: people's ideas about trusting experts and trusting authority. So many
1:22:23
Speaker 1: people thought that the health experts in this country were
1:22:26
Speaker 1: literally just trying to make people healthy, and you didn't realize, like, oh, no, no, no, no,
1:22:31
Speaker 1: they're trying to prop up the pharmaceutical drug cartel and
1:22:34
Speaker 1: they're trying to make as much money as humanly possible,
1:22:36
Speaker 1: and the only way to do that is to force compliance,
1:22:39
Speaker 1: and so they will do whatever they can. They will
1:22:40
Speaker 1: keep you from flying, they'll keep you from driving, they'll
1:22:42
Speaker 1: keep it from going to school. You can't work if
1:22:44
Speaker 1: you have more than one hundred employees. Everyone has to
1:22:47
Speaker 1: get vaccinated. They were doing crazy shit where you're like,
1:22:50
Speaker 1: you guys are really going for it, and it worked.
1:22:54
Speaker 1: It worked for quite a while, but boy did it
1:22:55
Speaker 1: ruin young people's perspective of authority completely. They don't trust
1:23:01
Speaker 1: anybody anymore, and with good reason.
1:23:04
Speaker 3: Well, I think it damaged them most. Again, it's another
1:23:07
Speaker 3: negative for them. I mean, our National Health Service was
1:23:09
Speaker 3: forcing people to have the inject You had to work
1:23:11
Speaker 3: in the National Health Service, you had to have the jabs.
1:23:14
Speaker 1: And it didn't work.
1:23:15
Speaker 2: It didn't work.
1:23:16
Speaker 3: That's what's actually crazy. Actually worse than that jo it
1:23:18
Speaker 3: didn't wait. Created major medical problems and I don't personally
1:23:22
Speaker 3: think we've seen the end of it yet. So I've
1:23:23
Speaker 3: got a lot of friends who are fit. They ended
1:23:25
Speaker 3: up having myocarditis, having strokes, having heart attacks.
1:23:30
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, everybody knows somebody
1:23:32
Speaker 1: that has a horrible reaction to it. Does yeah, everyone,
1:23:36
Speaker 1: And to people that say they don't, I've had conversations
1:23:38
Speaker 1: with people I don't know anybody out of side effect,
1:23:40
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck you for lying. There's no way that's
1:23:43
Speaker 1: possible unless you are the luckiest person in the world
1:23:47
Speaker 1: and you have an extremely small social circle, and out
1:23:50
Speaker 1: of that social circle, no one had a bad reaction,
1:23:53
Speaker 1: which is very unlikely unless that's true. Like you, you're
1:23:57
Speaker 1: just lying because you probably were supportive of the vaccine
1:24:02
Speaker 1: initially and you don't want to seem like you were
1:24:04
Speaker 1: on the wrong side of things.
1:24:06
Speaker 3: Well, I lost friends, I don't know about you, because
1:24:07
Speaker 3: I people said I hadn't been vaccinated, therefore I was
1:24:11
Speaker 3: a risk to their mom or their dad or.
1:24:14
Speaker 2: Their their granny.
1:24:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, I lost a bunch of people and I lost
1:24:17
Speaker 1: friends like that.
1:24:17
Speaker 3: But I mean in countries like India, you you you
1:24:20
Speaker 3: know they didn't have the job they had it they
1:24:22
Speaker 3: used ivermectin to a far, far greater extent, and that
1:24:26
Speaker 3: that was just as effective. I think I used to
1:24:29
Speaker 3: treat my it's a wormer, it's imectin. I used to
1:24:33
Speaker 3: treat my cattle with ivermectin. But it worked, it worked well,
1:24:38
Speaker 3: and there were other there were other I think treatments
1:24:41
Speaker 3: which worked far.
1:24:42
Speaker 1: Do you know what happened to me in America over ivermectin.
1:24:45
Speaker 1: Are you aware of that? CNN, like for days was
1:24:50
Speaker 1: running this hit piece on me saying that I was
1:24:53
Speaker 1: taking horsty wormer for COVID. It is it is a work,
1:24:57
Speaker 1: yeah it is, but it's also you know, it's great
1:24:59
Speaker 1: for river blindness and dangay fever and yeah, I mean
1:25:03
Speaker 1: it's one the Nobel Prize for Use in Human beings.
1:25:06
Speaker 1: And they were claiming on CNN that I was taking
1:25:08
Speaker 1: veterinary medicine. And they not only that, but they changed
1:25:11
Speaker 1: the color of my face. So they took a video.
1:25:14
Speaker 1: I was supposed to do a concert with Dave Chappelle
1:25:16
Speaker 1: that weekend in Nashville, and I had to make a
1:25:18
Speaker 1: video saying I'm sorry, but we have to cancel it
1:25:20
Speaker 1: because I got COVID. So I said I had COVID
1:25:23
Speaker 1: like two days ago. I was sick, but I'm fine now.
1:25:25
Speaker 1: And I explained all the stuff that my doctor threw
1:25:28
Speaker 1: the kitchen sink at it. We took all these different things,
1:25:30
Speaker 1: and one of the things that I mentioned was ivermectin,
1:25:33
Speaker 1: and because of me mentioning that, I also said monocloal
1:25:36
Speaker 1: antibody z pack. I talked about all the different ivy vitamins.
1:25:40
Speaker 1: I took a bunch of different stuff and I got
1:25:42
Speaker 1: better quick and they took the video and changed the
1:25:45
Speaker 1: color of my face to make me look green on CNN. CNN.
1:25:51
Speaker 2: CNN is not a good challenge.
1:25:53
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know until I saw that.
1:25:56
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, like this is great. I was like,
1:25:59
Speaker 1: do I have to assuse Like this is crazy?
1:26:01
Speaker 3: So is that Bill Harts here when you're talking about
1:26:04
Speaker 3: with the eyes the worm in the eyes?
1:26:05
Speaker 2: Is that the Bill Harts? So you get from the
1:26:07
Speaker 2: water in Africa.
1:26:09
Speaker 1: But river blindness.
1:26:10
Speaker 2: I do not know what I think it's cool Bill Harts.
1:26:13
Speaker 2: I think I may be wrong, it might.
1:26:14
Speaker 1: Be right, but I know they also it's used to
1:26:17
Speaker 1: treat yellow fever than gay fever. It's used to treat
1:26:19
Speaker 1: a bunch of different things. But it you know, it
1:26:22
Speaker 1: also has anti viral properties that have been demonstrated. Like
1:26:26
Speaker 1: there's papers on it, and it's very cheap. Yes, but
1:26:29
Speaker 1: that's the problem. The problem is anybody can make it
1:26:33
Speaker 1: and you could buy it for like it's like a
1:26:35
Speaker 1: dollar a pill or something like that's nothing. Yeah, And
1:26:37
Speaker 1: that was the real problem is that, like if you
1:26:40
Speaker 1: want to have the emergency use authorization of a vaccine
1:26:43
Speaker 1: that hasn't gone through the safety protocols, in America, you
1:26:47
Speaker 1: have to have no other medications that are available that
1:26:50
Speaker 1: can treat it. So the reason why they went after
1:26:53
Speaker 1: me on CNN was because clearly I was doing okay.
1:26:56
Speaker 1: It was three days later and I said, I never
1:26:58
Speaker 1: got vaccinated, so here's all the stuff that I took
1:27:00
Speaker 1: and now I'm fine. And they went crazy, and it
1:27:04
Speaker 1: was this concerted campaign to try to destroy me. Neil
1:27:07
Speaker 1: Young took his music off Spotify because.
1:27:09
Speaker 2: He said he was on sound because it said that he.
1:27:12
Speaker 1: Said that I was promoting vaccine misinformation, and he probably
1:27:15
Speaker 1: believed that. He probably did believe that, but he didn't
1:27:17
Speaker 1: know what the fuck he was talking about. He's just
1:27:19
Speaker 1: he's another old boomer that just watches the news.
1:27:21
Speaker 2: Yes, I did.
1:27:22
Speaker 1: Used to like his music when I was in school.
1:27:25
Speaker 1: I still love it still, I still listen. I don't care.
1:27:27
Speaker 1: I mean I even told a story when I made
1:27:29
Speaker 1: the video about how when I was at a Neil
1:27:32
Speaker 1: Young concert while I was working at a Neil Young
1:27:34
Speaker 1: concert actually when I was nineteen, and that was the
1:27:36
Speaker 1: last day on the job because a riot broke out
1:27:39
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm a huge no Young fan, Like,
1:27:40
Speaker 1: I don't care. He just doesn't know he's someone told
1:27:43
Speaker 1: him this or he really thinks he's doing the right
1:27:45
Speaker 1: thing by removing his music, Like okay, but what you're
1:27:48
Speaker 1: doing is you're supporting this machine that is lying to
1:27:51
Speaker 1: be telling people the only way to get through this
1:27:52
Speaker 1: is to get vaccinated, when in fact, there's really like
1:27:55
Speaker 1: Udo Pradesh in India where it was just very low
1:28:00
Speaker 1: instances of COVID fatality. All of it was through ivermectin.
1:28:05
Speaker 1: They had amazing success with just ivermectin.
1:28:08
Speaker 3: But again, I think the state knows that it's caused damage.
1:28:11
Speaker 3: I just don't think they can admit it at the moment.
1:28:13
Speaker 1: No, they're not going to admit They're never going to
1:28:14
Speaker 1: admit it. They just gloss over it and move on.
1:28:16
Speaker 1: And some of the same people that were promoting that
1:28:18
Speaker 1: shit on the news they still deny it. They still
1:28:20
Speaker 1: deny and they've lost debates, like Chris Croomo got destroyed
1:28:23
Speaker 1: by my buddy Dave Smith because of it. Like they're
1:28:25
Speaker 1: in denial of like the things that they were actually saying.
1:28:29
Speaker 3: It was like fluorine in water and folic acid in
1:28:31
Speaker 3: bread and all this all that shit. It's all yeah,
1:28:35
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's sort of man getting high in
1:28:38
Speaker 3: his own supply, isn't it.
1:28:39
Speaker 1: Well, it's also a business. That's the real problem is
1:28:42
Speaker 1: that there's lobbies in this country that you know, they
1:28:47
Speaker 1: want to continue making money the same way they've been
1:28:49
Speaker 1: making money. And one of the ways they do it
1:28:51
Speaker 1: in America is they advertise on the networks. So the
1:28:56
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical drug companies all advertise on all these network They're
1:29:00
Speaker 1: an enormous part of the advertising budget. I know in
1:29:03
Speaker 1: England that's not legal, and it's only legal in America
1:29:06
Speaker 1: and in New Zealand Tho are the only two countries
1:29:08
Speaker 1: that allow pharmaceutical drug companies to advertise on television. But
1:29:11
Speaker 1: what it effectively does is it stops all criticism of
1:29:15
Speaker 1: any side effects. There's no stories on heart attacks, there's
1:29:19
Speaker 1: no stories on strokes, no stories on milecarditists. Now, if
1:29:22
Speaker 1: they weren't advertising and then someone was making money off
1:29:27
Speaker 1: of something that was killing people, that's the news, yep,
1:29:30
Speaker 1: the news would be all over it. But they have
1:29:32
Speaker 1: effectively ruined their own reputation by turning a blind eye
1:29:37
Speaker 1: on something that everybody knows.
1:29:39
Speaker 2: But you think they're turning a blind eye. I think
1:29:40
Speaker 2: they know. I think they know, but they can't admission.
1:29:43
Speaker 1: Well, the people, the individuals most certainly must know someone
1:29:47
Speaker 1: who got something from COVID, from the COVID shots, someone
1:29:52
Speaker 1: you know, someone who had a stroke, you know someone
1:29:54
Speaker 1: who's got a neurological condition. I know way too many
1:29:57
Speaker 1: people for you to not know anybody. I have to
1:30:00
Speaker 1: people that I know that are pacemakers. Now there's a
1:30:02
Speaker 1: lot of weird, horrible side effects that happened from that.
1:30:06
Speaker 1: If you don't know anybody that had one, I don't
1:30:08
Speaker 1: believe you.
1:30:09
Speaker 2: Well, I know loads.
1:30:10
Speaker 3: I mean, my sister in law had my carditis. I've
1:30:15
Speaker 3: had a friend, My best friend had a stroke literally
1:30:17
Speaker 3: a week after having the JAB. People have had problems
1:30:21
Speaker 3: with heart, a rhythmia, all sorts of stuff, and there's
1:30:26
Speaker 3: been some issues with blood too. So look, I think,
1:30:30
Speaker 3: as usual, money probably goes to the root of it.
1:30:33
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
1:30:33
Speaker 3: And we had something in the Britain called the Nudge Team,
1:30:36
Speaker 3: which basically was, I mean, how the government thought that
1:30:38
Speaker 3: was okay. It's a bit like when I was in
1:30:40
Speaker 3: football people hacking my phone and thought that was okay.
1:30:42
Speaker 3: But with the Nudge Team, it was to nudge people
1:30:45
Speaker 3: into accepting the lockdown, and it was effectively, very clever
1:30:51
Speaker 3: manipulation of the population. So look, I mean, you can't
1:30:55
Speaker 3: believe that the state thinks that's okay, but they did.
1:30:58
Speaker 1: They did, yeah did, and they did it in America
1:31:01
Speaker 1: for depending on which city you were in, to various extents,
1:31:06
Speaker 1: varying extents. The California was bad. It was real bad.
1:31:10
Speaker 1: I mean they closed down all the comedy clubs that
1:31:13
Speaker 1: they lost seventy percent of all their restaurants in Los Angeles.
1:31:15
Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy.
1:31:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice to live California, though, I like, it's a
1:31:20
Speaker 2: great place to live California.
1:31:21
Speaker 1: That's why people still tolerate it. I mean, if if
1:31:24
Speaker 1: California had the weather of Seattle would be empty, it would,
1:31:27
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, the reason why
1:31:29
Speaker 1: people are still there is because God, it's so amazing
1:31:32
Speaker 1: and there's so many cool people there and it's so nice,
1:31:34
Speaker 1: and the weather's incredible and the views and you could
1:31:37
Speaker 1: beat the ocean and then two hours later you're in
1:31:39
Speaker 1: the mountains. I mean, it's an amazing place.
1:31:41
Speaker 2: It's an amazing place.
1:31:42
Speaker 3: So I went filled with dumbasses. Yeah, it was socialist. Unfortunately,
1:31:46
Speaker 3: it's been permeating socialism.
1:31:48
Speaker 1: That and grifters, grifters pretending to be socialists. They were
1:31:51
Speaker 1: essentially those people with the wolf with the sheep wrapped
1:31:54
Speaker 1: around them. That's a large Yeah, that's a large portion
1:31:58
Speaker 1: of the government in Los Angeles, a large portion of
1:32:01
Speaker 1: the government of California in general. And the way you
1:32:03
Speaker 1: know this is how wealthy those fucking people are, and
1:32:05
Speaker 1: how it doesn't make sense how they're so wealthy. You're
1:32:08
Speaker 1: making how much a year and you're worth how much?
1:32:11
Speaker 2: Crime?
1:32:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, crime, they're doing crime. Well, do you One of
1:32:14
Speaker 1: the things that happened very recently is they just announced
1:32:18
Speaker 1: that the governor of California, one of the people on
1:32:22
Speaker 1: his staff had been wearing a wire for over a year.
1:32:25
Speaker 1: Did you see that story, Jamie, what's that? Well, no, no,
1:32:33
Speaker 1: I don't know what they got either. But this lady
1:32:35
Speaker 1: had been see if you can find it what says,
1:32:37
Speaker 1: but she had been wearing a wire. She's working for
1:32:41
Speaker 1: the Gavin Newsom organization. Yeah, and she was working for
1:32:45
Speaker 1: the administration, and she was wearing a wire for the
1:32:47
Speaker 1: FBI because they had been investigating him. And this was
1:32:50
Speaker 1: during the Biden administration. They started this, So they started
1:32:53
Speaker 1: this in twenty twenty four. If they're investigating him. It's
1:32:56
Speaker 1: supposed to be like they must know that something bad,
1:32:58
Speaker 1: real shit is going down. FBI infiltrated Gavin Newsom's inner
1:33:02
Speaker 1: circle by convincing Governor's ally to wear a wire. Yeah,
1:33:07
Speaker 1: not good.
1:33:08
Speaker 2: Not good.
1:33:09
Speaker 3: But I think it's the same in Chicago. You've got
1:33:11
Speaker 3: some pretty bad spots. San Francisco I think is not good.
1:33:16
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people that are profiting off of
1:33:18
Speaker 1: this idea that you know, the government should be taking
1:33:21
Speaker 1: care of everybody and you should be making all this
1:33:23
Speaker 1: money from taxes. And then you know, California spent twenty
1:33:27
Speaker 1: four billion dollars on the homeless and it just got worse.
1:33:30
Speaker 1: It is like, so that now it's an industry. Now
1:33:32
Speaker 1: you have this homeless. Taking care of the homeless is
1:33:34
Speaker 1: now an industry. And there's people on the Homeless Industry
1:33:37
Speaker 1: Board that are making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year,
1:33:40
Speaker 1: and it's like, what are we doing.
1:33:42
Speaker 2: It's the same with compliance.
1:33:43
Speaker 3: It's the same with as you say, DEI, Yeah, there's
1:33:46
Speaker 3: a whole industry and indict people making vast amounts of
1:33:49
Speaker 3: money on compliants. DEI basically wealth creation, which ultimately strips
1:33:56
Speaker 3: personal responsibility and tries to imbue everybody with a very
1:34:01
Speaker 3: sort of maligned philosophy, which which which is very damaging
1:34:04
Speaker 3: to the under.
1:34:05
Speaker 1: The guise of being inclusive.
1:34:07
Speaker 2: Correct.
1:34:07
Speaker 1: And also you're getting wealthy. How many people from these
1:34:11
Speaker 1: nonprofits are getting enormously wealthy, Like this is insane. And
1:34:16
Speaker 1: that was one of the things that USA clearly uncovered.
1:34:18
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you've ever seen Mike
1:34:20
Speaker 1: Benz and some of his.
1:34:21
Speaker 2: Takes on it. Yeah, it was shocking. I couldn't believe it.
1:34:24
Speaker 1: There's so many hours of it. It's almost like there's
1:34:27
Speaker 1: too much information to digest. You. I could listen to
1:34:31
Speaker 1: like an hour of it. It's like I gotta stop
1:34:32
Speaker 1: because I just don't know when this ends. I'm not
1:34:35
Speaker 1: even absorbing this. I'm just so flabbergasted by the extent
1:34:38
Speaker 1: of the corruption. The amount of money that's gone to
1:34:42
Speaker 1: fraud and possibly waste over the years is just staggering.
1:34:47
Speaker 3: But it also went all over the world, didn't it.
1:34:49
Speaker 3: It was it was a philosophy and a poor philosophy
1:34:53
Speaker 3: that was being exported to other countries and particularly the Britain.
1:34:58
Speaker 3: I mean, we have a present call Rory Stewo. His
1:35:00
Speaker 3: wife was being funded by some of this stuff which
1:35:03
Speaker 3: got shut down. Did they shut the whole thing down?
1:35:05
Speaker 3: Would they said, they leave a remnant of it.
1:35:07
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how much they've left, but essentially
1:35:10
Speaker 1: it's been shut down. Of course, if there was ever
1:35:13
Speaker 1: a Democrat that got elected president in twenty twenty eight,
1:35:16
Speaker 1: it would probably start that bitch right back up, open
1:35:19
Speaker 1: the borders, right back up, business as usual.
1:35:22
Speaker 2: That would not be good.
1:35:23
Speaker 1: Jet No, it seems like there's there was a desire
1:35:26
Speaker 1: to move people into blue states and then eventually get
1:35:31
Speaker 1: them on social assistance and then get them to become citizens,
1:35:35
Speaker 1: and then you have guaranteed voters because they you want
1:35:38
Speaker 1: to continue this right, you want to continue living like this,
1:35:40
Speaker 1: so this is the way, and then you would just
1:35:42
Speaker 1: completely take over the presidential elections. And I think they
1:35:46
Speaker 1: were trying to do that. This is Elon's perspective, and
1:35:48
Speaker 1: I think he's right, and you know, he's obviously much
1:35:51
Speaker 1: more aware of the problem in terms of like the
1:35:54
Speaker 1: extent that USAID was involved and these nonprofits and NGOs
1:35:58
Speaker 1: were involved. It seems like there was a concerted effort
1:36:01
Speaker 1: to do this, and it's disturbing.
1:36:03
Speaker 3: But again, a lack of respect for tax taxpayer funds
1:36:06
Speaker 3: completely is what we have in the UK. I mean,
1:36:09
Speaker 3: we need your help at the moment you've got at
1:36:11
Speaker 3: least you're making a stab at returning to some form
1:36:14
Speaker 3: of normality for now.
1:36:16
Speaker 1: But if we don't fuck it, I mean, we might
1:36:17
Speaker 1: have sucked it up by going Iran. I mean, this
1:36:20
Speaker 1: war is not something anybody that's conservative wanted. Most people
1:36:24
Speaker 1: don't want it except supporters of Israel. They're the only
1:36:26
Speaker 1: people that seem to be thinking it's a good idea
1:36:29
Speaker 1: in this country. Most people are horrified by the idea.
1:36:32
Speaker 1: Because Trump was elected. One of the pillars that he
1:36:36
Speaker 1: stood for apparently was that he doesn't want any more wars,
1:36:40
Speaker 1: but he was.
1:36:41
Speaker 3: I came out against it on the basis for us
1:36:43
Speaker 3: of rail politique, which is it wasn't in the interests
1:36:46
Speaker 3: of the British nation. And I think again, most of
1:36:49
Speaker 3: these leaders should put the interests of their tax paying
1:36:53
Speaker 3: public first. And there's only a reason to go to
1:36:56
Speaker 3: war if it's going to benefit you. It was difficult
1:37:00
Speaker 3: to see what the benefit was. Although I think Iran
1:37:04
Speaker 3: is a sort of malevolent state and it is spreading
1:37:08
Speaker 3: very bad philosophy across.
1:37:11
Speaker 2: Obviously, you know you've.
1:37:12
Speaker 3: Got his bollare in Lebanon, and then we've got ham
1:37:16
Speaker 3: Ass causing a problem. So I think I think they
1:37:19
Speaker 3: are a problem, but certainly from our point of view.
1:37:22
Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're you're the only country with a
1:37:24
Speaker 3: with the ability to do anything about it. I mean
1:37:26
Speaker 3: we we we had one warship which which which which
1:37:30
Speaker 3: didn't work properly when it was Center had to help,
1:37:32
Speaker 3: so Ivan goodness knows we you know, we've spent all
1:37:35
Speaker 3: our money on welfare and not enough money on defense.
1:37:38
Speaker 2: So now we need we need help. And I think.
1:37:43
Speaker 3: To your point, Elon Musk has been to my mind,
1:37:46
Speaker 3: incredibly helpful in restoring free speech. Because Starmer and and
1:37:52
Speaker 3: and these Fabians Fabian pabloist all day in society, as
1:37:56
Speaker 3: I call them, they're sort of all. They're all, they've
1:37:59
Speaker 3: all got this line philosophy. And I think what giving
1:38:02
Speaker 3: us free speech has done is it stopped them crushing
1:38:07
Speaker 3: the spirit of those people who do want to debate,
1:38:09
Speaker 3: who do want to discuss, who do want to get
1:38:11
Speaker 3: at the truth.
1:38:12
Speaker 1: Ver they've done so much to stop free speech with
1:38:15
Speaker 1: all these arrests, it's extraordinary because they've also they've incentivized
1:38:18
Speaker 1: people to keep their mouths shut because no one wants
1:38:20
Speaker 1: to be in trouble.
1:38:21
Speaker 3: Well, it's two tier policing. You've got to your point
1:38:25
Speaker 3: about you know that the Palestinian marches are tolerated, whereas
1:38:29
Speaker 3: any form of Tommy Robinson March and Tommy Robinson in
1:38:33
Speaker 3: the UK, he's deeply disliked by the establishment. I give
1:38:38
Speaker 3: him credit for what he did again on the grooming
1:38:40
Speaker 3: gangs in two thousand and three. He was warning about
1:38:43
Speaker 3: this in two thousand and three in Luton.
1:38:46
Speaker 1: Not only that, I remember people dismissing that in two
1:38:49
Speaker 1: thousand and three or four, whenever it was when I
1:38:52
Speaker 1: first heard about it, they were talking about him. This
1:38:54
Speaker 1: is horrible far right extremist I know, and that he
1:38:59
Speaker 1: was making up these stories about these grooming gangs and
1:39:03
Speaker 1: rape gangs. I remember hearing that. I remember not knowing, like,
1:39:07
Speaker 1: what's accurate here, what's going on?
1:39:09
Speaker 3: Well, I think the accuracy is that he was right.
1:39:12
Speaker 3: The establishment didn't want to admit it because if we're right, well,
1:39:17
Speaker 3: I think we are right about their multicultural post war experiment.
1:39:20
Speaker 3: They realized it was failing because you can't justify the
1:39:26
Speaker 3: sort of abuse and grooming of the most vulnerable people
1:39:29
Speaker 3: in your society by people who've come into the country.
1:39:33
Speaker 3: They should be treated equally under the law.
1:39:35
Speaker 2: A rape is a rape.
1:39:36
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter whether it's perpetrated by somebody is from
1:39:40
Speaker 3: a Muslim country or a Christian country. Rapeist, rape, and
1:39:43
Speaker 3: it should be treated the same.
1:39:44
Speaker 1: What would you do to stop this? Like imagine if
1:39:47
Speaker 1: you got into power right now, what would you do
1:39:50
Speaker 1: to put a stop to that?
1:39:52
Speaker 3: But we have to root it out and we have
1:39:53
Speaker 3: to stop it. Fly the law that the law of
1:39:58
Speaker 3: our land to the people who are portraying it. The
1:40:01
Speaker 3: problem is the police have institutionally been been taught that
1:40:05
Speaker 3: they are racist. And we had Stephen Lawrence killing which
1:40:10
Speaker 3: was which was didn't reflect well in the UK, but
1:40:12
Speaker 3: the response to it has created this fear of being
1:40:15
Speaker 3: being being called a racist, which is the Stephen Lawrence
1:40:18
Speaker 3: Steve Lawrence, I think it was it was late nineties.
1:40:21
Speaker 3: He was he was he was stabbed by some sort
1:40:24
Speaker 3: of British miscreants. And where was he from he died?
1:40:29
Speaker 3: He was it was in London.
1:40:30
Speaker 1: Where was Stephen Lawrence from?
1:40:31
Speaker 2: When he was he was a black, a black.
1:40:34
Speaker 1: So it's a racial hat crime. Was a racial hate crime, okay, and.
1:40:38
Speaker 2: It was blown up.
1:40:38
Speaker 3: And again you find that the racial hate crime involving
1:40:41
Speaker 3: any white people is now blown up, whereas the more
1:40:45
Speaker 3: the very often and increasingly common acts against the indigenous
1:40:50
Speaker 3: white people are hushed up as much as they possibly
1:40:53
Speaker 3: can be.
1:40:53
Speaker 1: That's a funny thing to say, indigenous white people. Yeah,
1:40:56
Speaker 1: and what I mean it is real for England. But
1:40:58
Speaker 1: I mean nobody thinks about that in America. You would
1:41:01
Speaker 1: never say, like indigenous.
1:41:02
Speaker 3: Way people, well we we we do have an identity.
1:41:06
Speaker 3: Of course, is the reason why everyone's so paid. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:41:09
Speaker 3: well we do, we do have an identity.
1:41:11
Speaker 1: But really is indigenous?
1:41:12
Speaker 3: As I say, we've been very torerant of people who
1:41:15
Speaker 3: needed help. We let them into the country and on
1:41:17
Speaker 3: the whole they have integrated and they have contributed. Right,
1:41:20
Speaker 3: And I have no problem with that, Like you, I'm
1:41:22
Speaker 3: absolutely in favor of that.
1:41:24
Speaker 1: Right. The only problem is the people that aren't integrating.
1:41:26
Speaker 3: If people don't want to come and live and integrate
1:41:29
Speaker 3: and contribute, then they shouldn't come.
1:41:31
Speaker 2: They should they should remain their own Country's.
1:41:33
Speaker 1: Also the idea of incentivizing people to illegally migrate to
1:41:36
Speaker 1: your country is just pure insanity. Yeah, you're going to
1:41:39
Speaker 1: run out of money, and you're also putting a birding
1:41:42
Speaker 1: on these taxpayers for no reason whatsoever. It's a bad
1:41:45
Speaker 1: use of their tax dollars.
1:41:46
Speaker 3: But in our immigration document we put forward, you know,
1:41:49
Speaker 3: the case for is basically a hostile environment. We don't
1:41:53
Speaker 3: want to be handing out welfare, We don't want to
1:41:56
Speaker 3: be encouraging people to come. We want to create a
1:42:00
Speaker 3: hostile environment and encourage people to go unless they're contributing,
1:42:04
Speaker 3: to go back to their own country and live there,
1:42:07
Speaker 3: particularly if they don't like our culture and our laws
1:42:09
Speaker 3: and they don't respect us and they think we're the infidel.
1:42:12
Speaker 1: But do laws exist that would allow you to deport
1:42:16
Speaker 1: those people.
1:42:16
Speaker 2: Well, you'd have to repeal.
1:42:18
Speaker 3: So that's why that's why it's so important we win
1:42:21
Speaker 3: an overall majority in Parliament by twenty nine because then
1:42:24
Speaker 3: we can repeal a lot of this legislation, which will
1:42:28
Speaker 3: then empower the nation's state again.
1:42:31
Speaker 1: So this is the legislation that provides healthcare, dental welfare, housing.
1:42:38
Speaker 3: This is legislation largely passed by Tony Blair and his acolytes, and.
1:42:42
Speaker 1: This was all just to encourage mass migration.
1:42:45
Speaker 3: I think it was to encourage this mass immigration and
1:42:49
Speaker 3: make it very difficult to stop it.
1:42:51
Speaker 2: Practically.
1:42:52
Speaker 3: Interestingly, he's quite crafted, because he came out the other
1:42:55
Speaker 3: day trying to distance himself from a lot of the
1:42:58
Speaker 3: things that he is actually created. So he's he's quite
1:43:02
Speaker 3: a canny old fox, and he does look he looks
1:43:05
Speaker 3: a bit like Beelzebub these days, and he's got this
1:43:07
Speaker 3: white hair and these piercing sort of eyes. I can't
1:43:11
Speaker 3: help look at him and think of evil, but look
1:43:14
Speaker 3: so he Ultimately, I think him and his team realize
1:43:20
Speaker 3: what they realized what they were doing, and he had
1:43:22
Speaker 3: he had it was all done through the law.
1:43:24
Speaker 2: You have to do.
1:43:25
Speaker 3: In a country that believes in the rule of law,
1:43:28
Speaker 3: the only way to change it is through control of parliament.
1:43:32
Speaker 3: So you have to do it top down through the
1:43:34
Speaker 3: parliamentary system, so you can repeal the laws and you
1:43:37
Speaker 3: can pass the laws you want to pass to and
1:43:39
Speaker 3: empower the nation state. And at the same time, which
1:43:43
Speaker 3: we're doing, you need to start controlling local government as well,
1:43:46
Speaker 3: because local government's gone badly wrong and a lot of
1:43:48
Speaker 3: the failures from the rape gang inquiry weren't just the
1:43:53
Speaker 3: national government, you had failure at local government as well.
1:43:56
Speaker 1: So are the local government wilfully ignorant? Are they existence
1:44:01
Speaker 1: in the case flighting people on it.
1:44:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the case of labor, that they've enabled it.
1:44:06
Speaker 3: You know they I say, I can't see how anybody
1:44:10
Speaker 3: can ever vote labor again after they've read this report,
1:44:12
Speaker 3: because labor has clearly enabled this, both at national level
1:44:16
Speaker 3: by denying what's been going on and at local level
1:44:20
Speaker 3: where you have local government and it happens mainly in
1:44:24
Speaker 3: labor controlled areas. You've got people denying completely that this
1:44:28
Speaker 3: has been happening, whereas we know it's happening. We have
1:44:32
Speaker 3: people like Sammy wood Has as a victim of it,
1:44:34
Speaker 3: who had a child by her rapist. So ultimately local
1:44:40
Speaker 3: government has to be controlled from the bottom up, and
1:44:43
Speaker 3: we started that process. We won nine out of nine
1:44:47
Speaker 3: county council seats in Norfolk. So my constituency is on
1:44:51
Speaker 3: the coast in England, so it's a coastal constituency been
1:44:55
Speaker 3: very badly served by the post war elite. So the
1:44:57
Speaker 3: fishermen in England have been sold down the of a
1:45:01
Speaker 3: largely to the European fisherman as part of the membership
1:45:04
Speaker 3: of the EU. So Norfolk is a county on the
1:45:08
Speaker 3: east coast. It's got rich farmland and farming is my passion.
1:45:13
Speaker 3: I love farming, I absolutely it's my hobby and I
1:45:16
Speaker 3: love it. So at the end of the day, we
1:45:19
Speaker 3: have to control local government and change it bottom up,
1:45:21
Speaker 3: and we have to then get control of national government
1:45:24
Speaker 3: and change it top down. I would imagine if we
1:45:26
Speaker 3: can do that, Joe, I truly think if we can,
1:45:29
Speaker 3: I truly think we can release the spirit of the
1:45:32
Speaker 3: British people, and I think they want it, but they've
1:45:34
Speaker 3: got to show, They've got to show to the ballot
1:45:35
Speaker 3: box that that's what they want.
1:45:37
Speaker 1: I'd imagine there's going to be an enormous amount of
1:45:39
Speaker 1: resistance to this kind of huge change.
1:45:43
Speaker 3: From organized crime, which I think we're now in the
1:45:45
Speaker 3: hands off, from a corrupt judiciary, from a police force
1:45:49
Speaker 3: that's gone wrong, from local government's gone wrong. The NHS
1:45:53
Speaker 3: has gone wrong again. It's a state monopoly and its
1:45:57
Speaker 3: original function I think has been verted. So you've got
1:46:04
Speaker 3: everything to your point. The education system is wrong. So
1:46:06
Speaker 3: there's a lot of change that needs to happen. But
1:46:10
Speaker 3: I think fundamentally the electorate. You saw them in twenty
1:46:14
Speaker 3: sixteen vote to take back their sovereignty. The government wrote
1:46:17
Speaker 3: a letter to all the households in the UK recommending
1:46:22
Speaker 3: they vote to remain in the European Union. This is
1:46:24
Speaker 3: David Cameron. But actually the British people didn't. They voted
1:46:28
Speaker 3: to leave, and they didn't do it I think for
1:46:31
Speaker 3: financial reasons. They did it because they wanted their country back,
1:46:34
Speaker 3: They wanted their sovereignty back, they wanted an accountable parliament
1:46:37
Speaker 3: in Westminster. And some of our problems emanate from the
1:46:40
Speaker 3: fact that Tony Blair's reforms have undermined our parliament. So
1:46:45
Speaker 3: our parliament is supposed to be omnipotent. It's supposed to
1:46:48
Speaker 3: be completely contained the elected representatives of the people. So
1:46:53
Speaker 3: Parliament is supposed to be right at the top of
1:46:56
Speaker 3: the chain. But what's happened is it's been undermined by
1:46:59
Speaker 3: these that Tony Blair set up, which is effectively created
1:47:03
Speaker 3: at the life of the rent, so the Supreme Court,
1:47:05
Speaker 3: and literally there are hundreds of these quangos that now
1:47:08
Speaker 3: employ unelected people.
1:47:11
Speaker 1: Where's that word quango?
1:47:12
Speaker 3: Well, quango is like a quasi national government organization, so
1:47:17
Speaker 3: they are you know, you've got all sorts of bodies,
1:47:21
Speaker 3: you know, the sort of bas standards board. You've got
1:47:25
Speaker 3: loads of bodies which now prevail. You know, you've got
1:47:29
Speaker 3: bodies on almost everything, which which again have flourished since
1:47:33
Speaker 3: Tony Blair's legislation. Prior to that, power lay with Parliament.
1:47:39
Speaker 3: So that's why they've been able to control a lot
1:47:42
Speaker 3: of what goes on because the two party system, the
1:47:45
Speaker 3: Blues and the Reds, the tourism and labor basically have
1:47:49
Speaker 3: have tried to outcompete each other. So the entire parliament
1:47:53
Speaker 3: Blair took it, left, Cameron emulated Blair, and you didn't
1:47:58
Speaker 3: actually get proper conservative thought to change a lot of
1:48:03
Speaker 3: this stuff that was wrong. So I think, I think,
1:48:07
Speaker 3: I think this is an opportunity, and I think it's
1:48:09
Speaker 3: our last opportunity, and I and all the help we
1:48:12
Speaker 3: can get from from you guys. I mean, we made
1:48:15
Speaker 3: a bad mistake in letting you declare your independence, which
1:48:18
Speaker 3: you're celebrating tomorrow in.
1:48:19
Speaker 2: The first place.
1:48:20
Speaker 3: Had we had we played our cards better, I think
1:48:23
Speaker 3: you'd still be it should should still be part of part.
1:48:25
Speaker 2: Of it's worked out for not so well.
1:48:30
Speaker 1: Sorry, but I think we're better off but I do
1:48:33
Speaker 1: want to.
1:48:33
Speaker 3: See I do want to see otherwise, well, I do
1:48:37
Speaker 3: want to see the Anglo Saxon world support each other.
1:48:40
Speaker 3: I think there's not enough of that. We're too fragmented.
1:48:43
Speaker 3: There's too much sort of whether it's the World Economic Forum,
1:48:46
Speaker 3: as I said, what what, whatever the reason, there's too
1:48:49
Speaker 3: much fragmentation and too much undermining of of this cohesive
1:48:55
Speaker 3: Anglo Saxon world, which, let's face it, is the reason
1:48:58
Speaker 3: why we all have individual freedom, because, as we said earlier,
1:49:01
Speaker 3: individual freedom is incredibly fragile. We could lose it at
1:49:05
Speaker 3: any minuture.
1:49:06
Speaker 1: I mean the society that you know, the way we
1:49:09
Speaker 1: look at America, when people look at it the right way,
1:49:13
Speaker 1: or when people are proud of America, they look at
1:49:15
Speaker 1: it as a place where anybody can come and achieve
1:49:17
Speaker 1: your dreams. And it's it doesn't mean only white people,
1:49:22
Speaker 1: doesn't mean only black, It just means Americans. We're supposed
1:49:25
Speaker 1: to be a community, a team, you know, and the
1:49:27
Speaker 1: fact that we're a melting pot, that we're not like
1:49:30
Speaker 1: you know, indigenous white people like England, is part of
1:49:33
Speaker 1: the fun of it all. That everyone's welcome. Just come
1:49:36
Speaker 1: over here and do your thing and follow the rules.
1:49:40
Speaker 1: But the problem with this country is the problem with
1:49:43
Speaker 1: any country when you're being run by people that are
1:49:46
Speaker 1: completely corrupt, and you're being run by people that are
1:49:49
Speaker 1: influenced by enormous corporations that don't care about the people,
1:49:52
Speaker 1: that only care about the bottom line, how much money
1:49:54
Speaker 1: they're making and how do they rig things. And then
1:49:58
Speaker 1: you have politicians that are making a hundred and seventy
1:50:00
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, but there's somehow worth four hundred
1:50:02
Speaker 1: million dollars and no one questions it. No one's in jail.
1:50:05
Speaker 1: The whole thing is bonkers, And it's just you're always
1:50:08
Speaker 1: going to have crooks, and you got to hold them off.
1:50:11
Speaker 1: You gotta hold them off as much as possible. When
1:50:13
Speaker 1: you recognize they're in you got to do a cleaning.
1:50:15
Speaker 1: You got to clean house. You gotta clean house and
1:50:17
Speaker 1: get rid of them. If you don't, you're just gonna
1:50:19
Speaker 1: have the problems. It's gonna get worse because they're going
1:50:21
Speaker 1: to figure out. Okay, it's just like antibiotics when you
1:50:23
Speaker 1: don't take the full round and the stuff doesn't really
1:50:26
Speaker 1: go out of you said, no, well, now you got
1:50:27
Speaker 1: medication resistant bacteria. Congratulations, your medication has made the bacteria worse.
1:50:33
Speaker 1: So if you fight off the corruption a little bit
1:50:36
Speaker 1: and then you stop, they go, oh, well, we got
1:50:39
Speaker 1: a we were close, we almost figured it all out
1:50:42
Speaker 1: and got it all rigged. But now we've got to
1:50:45
Speaker 1: make sure that we lock people down and have even
1:50:47
Speaker 1: more laws and even more restrictions.
1:50:49
Speaker 3: And you've summed up what we need to do in
1:50:53
Speaker 3: the UK very well. I mean we are I think
1:50:54
Speaker 3: in the hands of organized crime. I think a lot
1:50:57
Speaker 3: of the institutions that we had previously have become rotten.
1:51:01
Speaker 1: I think it's the right way to recognize it too.
1:51:03
Speaker 3: It's in the and to your point, you know, we
1:51:05
Speaker 3: do need to now punish people who've let us down.
1:51:08
Speaker 1: It's crime. It really is crime, and to just pretend,
1:51:12
Speaker 1: because it's been going on for so long and that
1:51:14
Speaker 1: it's business as usual, that it's not a crime. Like, no,
1:51:16
Speaker 1: it's crime. It's crime. It's just somehow another crime that's tolerated.
1:51:21
Speaker 2: Well.
1:51:22
Speaker 3: Letting down people who've elected you and given their trust
1:51:26
Speaker 3: to you is a massive crime.
1:51:29
Speaker 1: It's not just letting down betraying them.
1:51:32
Speaker 3: I mean, we have the same as you, but to
1:51:33
Speaker 3: a lesser extent. Because you've obviously got far more wealth
1:51:36
Speaker 3: in US. But you see these officials who end up
1:51:40
Speaker 3: becoming rich, and you wonder how they do it. And
1:51:43
Speaker 3: they're on salaries and they're taxed heavily, and yet they
1:51:46
Speaker 3: always seem to flourish. They never seem to be short
1:51:48
Speaker 3: of money. So I and I look at our judiciary,
1:51:52
Speaker 3: which is again now a quango. The judges are no
1:51:56
Speaker 3: longer appointed by Parliament. They're appointed by this word quango.
1:52:01
Speaker 3: And I had an issue in parliament. You know, I
1:52:05
Speaker 3: challenged Parliament because to the point where I've been saying
1:52:09
Speaker 3: we need to return power to Parliament. They have this
1:52:13
Speaker 3: body called the ICGs Independent Complaint Agreement Scheme. And in
1:52:18
Speaker 3: Parliament we have this system called parliamentary privilege. So I
1:52:22
Speaker 3: can speak on the floor of the House and I
1:52:23
Speaker 3: can't be sued for lib but you can say whatever
1:52:26
Speaker 3: you want. That's the essence of free speech in the
1:52:29
Speaker 3: Chamber of the Commons. Now this body has actually been
1:52:33
Speaker 3: expressly taken outside Parliament. And the case I had against
1:52:38
Speaker 3: them was they tried to say I couldn't. I caught
1:52:40
Speaker 3: them doing something I thought was wrong and I wanted
1:52:42
Speaker 3: to take them to court. They said, you can't take
1:52:44
Speaker 3: us to court because we're parliamentary privileged, even though it
1:52:47
Speaker 3: doesn't it's not the chamber, it's not an MP speaking,
1:52:50
Speaker 3: it's got no MPs on this committee. It doesn't report
1:52:53
Speaker 3: to a parliamentary committee. And yet the judge found they
1:52:57
Speaker 3: had parliamentary privilege didn't address the question. So this is how,
1:53:01
Speaker 3: this is how the elected Assembly has been undermined, and
1:53:05
Speaker 3: this is what we have to We have to return
1:53:07
Speaker 3: power to the elected representatives of the people.
1:53:10
Speaker 1: There's also another thing that Britain has done recently that's
1:53:13
Speaker 1: very disturbing, which is eliminate jury trials.
1:53:17
Speaker 2: For they're trying to do that, trying to do that.
1:53:20
Speaker 1: So it's not it's not established it.
1:53:22
Speaker 3: They haven't yet done it, because there is there are
1:53:26
Speaker 3: still a few decent labor MPs who fought against it.
1:53:31
Speaker 3: But again I think that's all a manifestation of organized
1:53:35
Speaker 3: crime because if you control the judges, of course, and
1:53:39
Speaker 3: you and you can force more and more people through
1:53:42
Speaker 3: a judge system rather than a jury system. And so
1:53:47
Speaker 3: for libel trials. I fought a libel trial when I
1:53:49
Speaker 3: was in football against the The Times, which is Rupert
1:53:54
Speaker 3: Murdoch's paper, and you know, I think I had my
1:53:58
Speaker 3: phones hacked and I fought to live trial against them.
1:54:02
Speaker 3: So like newspaper hacked your phone, they had when I
1:54:04
Speaker 3: was in football, they were hacking my phone every day.
1:54:06
Speaker 1: Wow, how would they do it?
1:54:07
Speaker 2: Listening in through my voicemails?
1:54:09
Speaker 1: How'd they do it?
1:54:10
Speaker 3: And then they can blag a number from the voicemail
1:54:12
Speaker 3: and start listening. So if you called me and left
1:54:14
Speaker 3: a message, they could blag your number off my phone.
1:54:17
Speaker 3: And they thought this was okay. These were national newspapers.
1:54:20
Speaker 3: And again I want to get into your voicemail because
1:54:22
Speaker 3: they in the old days, you you know, people if
1:54:25
Speaker 3: people had a code to to encrypt their phone and
1:54:28
Speaker 3: they didn't.
1:54:28
Speaker 2: Do it properly, so they had zero zero zero zero.
1:54:31
Speaker 3: If you didn't change that, they got into your phone, right,
1:54:34
Speaker 3: So they got into my phone, They got into lots
1:54:36
Speaker 3: of people's phones.
1:54:37
Speaker 2: Wow, because you never know quite how they did it.
1:54:39
Speaker 3: But so if you'd left me a message, they could
1:54:41
Speaker 3: blag your number and then they start listening to your
1:54:43
Speaker 3: phone and everything else. Now I think you know that
1:54:46
Speaker 3: was that was that in this case Murdock. But Murdock
1:54:48
Speaker 3: I think has done a lot for the right wing,
1:54:51
Speaker 3: cause I don't always agree with everything, and I certainly
1:54:53
Speaker 3: didn't agree with him hacking phones. But this all, this
1:54:57
Speaker 3: all goes to the point of the estate pablishment becoming corrupted,
1:55:02
Speaker 3: and from corruption, I think again you end up with oppression,
1:55:08
Speaker 3: and we need to sort that out. And I'm hoping
1:55:12
Speaker 3: if I put myself up and the people agree, they
1:55:15
Speaker 3: will change things. And I think they are in a
1:55:16
Speaker 3: feeble mood, so I'm hoping that they will take the
1:55:19
Speaker 3: opportunity and give us the power to do it.
1:55:21
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that part up, because we're not
1:55:23
Speaker 1: really aware in America of what the general mood of
1:55:27
Speaker 1: the country is like, where people are leaning in what direction.
1:55:31
Speaker 1: As far as England goes, what is it like is
1:55:35
Speaker 1: a large percentage of the population fed up? I mean,
1:55:38
Speaker 1: what's going on over there?
1:55:39
Speaker 3: Well, I think to your point, you've got this body
1:55:42
Speaker 3: of people who are profiting on the back of these
1:55:46
Speaker 3: concepts which you and I would agree are completely flawed.
1:55:50
Speaker 3: So they're they're obviously in control at the moment. But
1:55:53
Speaker 3: then you've got the body of people, this increasingly small
1:55:57
Speaker 3: percentage of what I call the private sector, which now
1:56:00
Speaker 3: accounts for a smaller and smaller proportion of GDP, So
1:56:05
Speaker 3: your percentage of GDP accounted for by the state is
1:56:09
Speaker 3: much much smaller than ours, so our I mean directly
1:56:13
Speaker 3: and indirectly, I would estimate that our that are the
1:56:18
Speaker 3: share of government now in our economy is over fifty percent.
1:56:22
Speaker 3: If you take the effect of these quangos and everything
1:56:25
Speaker 3: else here, you're much smaller than that.
1:56:27
Speaker 2: Now that's come. You know, pre Blair Thatcher, we.
1:56:32
Speaker 3: Were in a very very good economic state and the
1:56:35
Speaker 3: state accounted for you know where, it was thirty thirty
1:56:38
Speaker 3: three percent something like that. It's now up to nearly
1:56:41
Speaker 3: fifty percent and rising. And this is what the Fabians want.
1:56:45
Speaker 3: They want a dependency culture, a sort of centrally planned
1:56:49
Speaker 3: USSR style dishing out of taxpayer funds. So they've diminished
1:56:56
Speaker 3: the private sector, which they're taxing into oblivion, which has
1:56:59
Speaker 3: meant that a lot of our most able people have
1:57:01
Speaker 3: left the country, so we've lost a lot of our
1:57:03
Speaker 3: brainmakers have gone. So a lot of our best people
1:57:07
Speaker 3: went to obviously Italy, to Dubai, to Abu Dhabi, all
1:57:12
Speaker 3: over the world. Some of them would have come here.
1:57:14
Speaker 3: So the best brains have gone, and I think the
1:57:19
Speaker 3: non doms have gone, which again I think is a
1:57:21
Speaker 3: huge error because they've now been taxed rather than being
1:57:24
Speaker 3: encouraged to spend their time in the UK. So we're
1:57:30
Speaker 3: being hollowed out by this socialist philosophy which is creating
1:57:37
Speaker 3: damage to the private sector and in empowering the public sector.
1:57:42
Speaker 1: Is there a large percentage of young people that are
1:57:45
Speaker 1: aware of there's.
1:57:46
Speaker 2: Oh, the young people have.
1:57:48
Speaker 3: I've been incredibly impressed, and a lot of them support us,
1:57:52
Speaker 3: so they know they can see that we're trying, I think,
1:57:55
Speaker 3: to at least rebalance this. And until we get this right,
1:57:59
Speaker 3: it's going to be very difficult to sort their situation
1:58:03
Speaker 3: out now. There's no overnight fixed these days, and I
1:58:06
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't think any of us know quite
1:58:09
Speaker 3: what effect AI is going to have on the employment market,
1:58:14
Speaker 3: on opportunities for young people. I mean, in many ways,
1:58:18
Speaker 3: if they've got a very good brain, they've got the
1:58:20
Speaker 3: huge opportunity to do very well and enrich themselves. But
1:58:26
Speaker 3: increasingly it's fewer and fewer people. It's not like the
1:58:29
Speaker 3: Industrial Revolution, where the majority of people had an increasing
1:58:32
Speaker 3: standard of living. It's going to be very interesting to
1:58:34
Speaker 3: see how we all cope with this incredibly fast moving
1:58:41
Speaker 3: revolution which is what it is, which is arguably going
1:58:45
Speaker 3: to create some incredibly rich people, and those people who
1:58:50
Speaker 3: haven't got the brain power will end up struggling. So
1:58:53
Speaker 3: it's hard to see how that's going to end. But
1:58:56
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean to say we want a state central
1:58:59
Speaker 3: planning of it. We know historically that doesn't work, and
1:59:04
Speaker 3: from that comes a sort of shutdown of thought and
1:59:07
Speaker 3: debate and free speech and all the things that.
1:59:12
Speaker 1: You and I love.
1:59:13
Speaker 3: I mean, that's to me, that's the country I want
1:59:16
Speaker 3: to live in. I don't want to live in a
1:59:18
Speaker 3: centrally planned mess. So we're in very uncertain times. But
1:59:25
Speaker 3: I'm optimistic that if you release the ability, the inate
1:59:29
Speaker 3: ability of people in Britain, in particularly in this case,
1:59:34
Speaker 3: I think we can turn it round. Still can't guarantee it,
1:59:37
Speaker 3: but I'm pretty sure we can still turn it round.
1:59:39
Speaker 3: But we've got to happen now. If it doesn't happen now,
1:59:41
Speaker 3: it would have gone too far.
1:59:43
Speaker 1: Well, I certainly hope you can, because for America and
1:59:47
Speaker 1: when we see what's happening, particularly with the social media
1:59:49
Speaker 1: posts and the arrest, it's so disturbing for us. And
1:59:52
Speaker 1: then of course with your the rape gang inquiry report
1:59:56
Speaker 1: was impossible to believe. Simply, it's it's impossible. So you know,
2:00:03
Speaker 1: we hope you guys turn around and when is your elections.
2:00:08
Speaker 2: We don't know, Joe.
2:00:10
Speaker 3: We've got this character Andy Burnham, who Kiir Starmer has
2:00:15
Speaker 3: stepped down. As you probably know Andy Burnham. I call
2:00:18
Speaker 3: him the Ghostbuster. He is just a more user friendly
2:00:23
Speaker 3: version of Kiir Starmer. He's been the mayor of Manchester,
2:00:28
Speaker 3: he stood in a by election recently where he was elected,
2:00:33
Speaker 3: and he's apparently going to be anointed as Prime Minister
2:00:38
Speaker 3: by the twentieth of July. So this is a guy
2:00:41
Speaker 3: who up until recently wasn't even an elected politician. He's
2:00:45
Speaker 3: been a politician in the past, he's been in the cabinet.
2:00:48
Speaker 1: Kiir Starmer can just step down and put another guy
2:00:51
Speaker 1: in his place, and that guy takes over.
2:00:52
Speaker 2: That's what's happening.
2:00:54
Speaker 1: That sounds crazy, I know, what a stupid way to run.
2:01:01
Speaker 3: But so so the answer your question is he could
2:01:04
Speaker 3: run till twenty nine, that's the backstop date he could
2:01:09
Speaker 3: and everybody says he might have a snap election. I
2:01:12
Speaker 3: think that's highly unlikely. Labour have got the biggest post
2:01:15
Speaker 3: war majority.
2:01:16
Speaker 1: Why would he have a snap election.
2:01:18
Speaker 3: He's got three years left with a huge majority, So
2:01:20
Speaker 3: why would he Why would he take a risk in Manchester?
2:01:23
Speaker 3: He was Manchester mayor. He's actually in the report, in
2:01:28
Speaker 3: the rape Gang report. He's mentioned in the rape Gang
2:01:31
Speaker 3: report for not doing enough in Manchester, which which is
2:01:35
Speaker 3: a center of rape gangs. So he's involved in he's
2:01:39
Speaker 3: involved in that. You know, he's mentioned in our report.
2:01:42
Speaker 2: It's in there.
2:01:43
Speaker 3: So look, I think in answer question when's the election
2:01:47
Speaker 3: going to be some people would say he's going to
2:01:49
Speaker 3: have an election soon.
2:01:50
Speaker 2: I don't agree with that.
2:01:51
Speaker 3: I think he'd be mad because I still think the
2:01:54
Speaker 3: public will judge labor harshly because the economy is not
2:02:00
Speaker 3: going well. People aren't feeling richer, they're feeling poorer. Their
2:02:03
Speaker 3: businesses are struggling. Their taxes have gone up, our taxes
2:02:06
Speaker 3: are at post war heires now, So under waste is
2:02:10
Speaker 3: just off the scale. So when I'm in the Public
2:02:13
Speaker 3: Accounts Committee, which I sit in again, it's all on.
2:02:16
Speaker 3: You can watch it on people watch it on screens.
2:02:19
Speaker 3: It's the Public Accounts Committee is the most powerful committee
2:02:22
Speaker 3: in Parliament and we question these civil servants to try
2:02:25
Speaker 3: and hold them to account.
2:02:26
Speaker 2: For the tax payer. The waste is just off the scale.
2:02:30
Speaker 3: So you've got a wasteful, inefficient state which is then
2:02:34
Speaker 3: taxing the private sector into oblivion, the increasingly small private sector.
2:02:39
Speaker 3: And that's not a recipe that's going to encourage risk
2:02:42
Speaker 3: taking investment. It's not going to you know, they're taxing
2:02:46
Speaker 3: family farms, they're taxing family businesses for the first time.
2:02:49
Speaker 3: They're basically breaking the backbone of Britain to the Fabian
2:02:53
Speaker 3: point they are. They are enacting this Fabian agenda which
2:02:57
Speaker 3: is designed to create a society that's relying on the state.
2:03:01
Speaker 3: I don't want I don't want that.
2:03:03
Speaker 1: Nobody should want that. Well, listen, man, thank you very
2:03:06
Speaker 1: much for being here. I really appreciate it. I really
2:03:08
Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time. I know it was difficult
2:03:11
Speaker 1: to get here for this day and this is the
2:03:12
Speaker 1: only day we had opened.
2:03:13
Speaker 3: So no, it's very kind you to have me on journa.
2:03:15
Speaker 3: I know it's some big celebrations tomorrow. Say good luck
2:03:18
Speaker 3: to you. Yeah, we're gon we're going to win. We're
2:03:20
Speaker 3: gonna I'm amazed at the support we've got and I'm
2:03:24
Speaker 3: amazed at the number of people who even on the
2:03:26
Speaker 3: plane come up to me and thank me for what
2:03:29
Speaker 3: I'm doing and say they're going to vote for us.
2:03:31
Speaker 3: And I think Britain's on the turn, and hopefully if
2:03:36
Speaker 3: we if we put up shop, tell them what we're
2:03:39
Speaker 3: going to do, give them a chance to vote for us.
2:03:41
Speaker 3: If they vote for us, I shall do my best
2:03:43
Speaker 3: to change things. If they don't vote for me, well
2:03:45
Speaker 3: that's that's their prerogative. That's democracy. Good luck, pleasure,