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Evan Cohen on the Knicks comeback over the Spurs, Cam Boozer a legitimate option for the Jazz in the draft (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: to one a half am.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Shan O'Connell show.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome in, Evan Cohen, National Radio Voice at ESPN and
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  Speaker 3: other places.
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  Speaker 2: Evan, welcome back to the show. How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 4: Sewn? Thanks for having me as always, I appreciate it
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  Speaker 4: all right.
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  Speaker 3: Last night's epic comeback by the New York Knicks?
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  Speaker 2: Was that enough? Is it now their series?
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  Speaker 3: Or do you think San Antonio can somehow stage a
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  Speaker 3: down three to one comeback?
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  Speaker 4: I think the Spurs in six before this series started,
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  Speaker 4: and that is just being restated to let the audience
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  Speaker 4: know how long I have been, because this series is
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  Speaker 4: one thousand percent over. In my mind, it is done with.
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  Speaker 4: And the main reason it is done with is because
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  Speaker 4: when you have a seven to five alien and you
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  Speaker 4: voluntarily make him into a six' five, wing you're asking to.
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  Speaker 4: Lose why has that?
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  Speaker 2: Happened and why did it? Happen last?
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  Speaker 3: Night over a you, know eighteen minutes stretch when you
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  Speaker 3: had these big time, leads especially, well it's easy for me.
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  Speaker 5: To, say sitting from my living room or my bedroom
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  Speaker 5: watching this, game THAT i can't believe they don't play
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  Speaker 5: him near the, rim, Right but the reality is they.
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  Speaker 4: Don't play him near the. Rim and my issue is
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  Speaker 4: not that he doesn't have a right to be tired
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  Speaker 4: because of all the running or all the, physicality or
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  Speaker 4: not that The knicks you're not doing a phenomenal job
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  Speaker 4: at defending him and bumping him at every whitch. Turn
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  Speaker 4: and WHEN i say bumping, him WHAT i mean is
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  Speaker 4: pell to visualize it this. Way think about an offensive
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  Speaker 4: and defensive line. Drills, Right so if you're if you're
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  Speaker 4: if you have an offensive lineman and you're doing a,
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  Speaker 4: drill and then the offensive lineman's job or even in
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  Speaker 4: the game obviously is to protect the. Quarterback, right the
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  Speaker 4: defensive lineman is coming at. Him the offensive lineman has
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  Speaker 4: to do everything in his power to make sure the
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  Speaker 4: defensive lineman does not touch the. Quarterback that is WHAT
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  Speaker 4: i think The knicks are. Doing whenby in this case
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  Speaker 4: would be the defensive, lineman the rim would be the,
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  Speaker 4: quarterback and The knicks defense would be the offensive lineman
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  Speaker 4: and you know what you're allowed to do though at
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  Speaker 4: times in THE nba you're you're allowed to do in
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  Speaker 4: THE nba that you can't do in THE nfl is
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  Speaker 4: basically you get chop. Block and so WHAT i mean by.
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  Speaker 6: That is it's mind boggling to Me sean that in no,
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  Speaker 6: way shape or form HAVE i seen The San Antonio
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  Speaker 6: spurs on an off fall. Situation so If Steph castle
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  Speaker 6: Or Dylan harper have the ball top of the, Key
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  Speaker 6: Devin bissell Or Julian, champagne either one of them just
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  Speaker 6: to use the Or Darren fox use any of the top,
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  Speaker 6: sick they're allowed to go set a screen On wemby's.
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  Speaker 4: Man not For wenby to even get the, ball but
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  Speaker 4: just For wenby to get positioned on the block and
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  Speaker 4: then start your. Offense but for whatever, reason they take
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  Speaker 4: him and they make him this screener on a high
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  Speaker 4: tick and, roll WHICH i think physically takes something out
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  Speaker 4: of him and it doesn't allow for him to get
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  Speaker 4: to the rim because he needs. Help but that defensive
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  Speaker 4: lineman trying to get to the, quarterback so to. Speak
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  Speaker 4: it's infuriating to me watching this that The spurs just
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  Speaker 4: almost borderline shoes not to have wemby in the right.
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  Speaker 3: SPOTS i, mean it makes sense the way you articulated
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  Speaker 3: one thing THAT i was. NOTICING i, Mean i've watched
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  Speaker 3: a lot of what This spurs run has looked like
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  Speaker 3: in the playoffs through The Utah jazz lens, like this
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  Speaker 3: is what you're going to have to contend with for
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  Speaker 3: the next, decade no matter who you draft in this
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  Speaker 3: upcoming draft or we're going to get there here in
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  Speaker 3: just a. Second and obviously The spurs they're a really talented.
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  Speaker 3: TEAM i think they're a very deep. Team WHAT i
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  Speaker 3: saw last night in that collapse was, like oh my,
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  Speaker 3: gosh no matter how talented you, are there's just some
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  Speaker 3: things THAT i guess experience can't replace this sort of
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  Speaker 3: wide eyed what the hell is happening that kept going
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  Speaker 3: On as you, know a twenty nine point lead became twenty,
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  Speaker 3: points became fifteen, points became eleven, points became four and
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  Speaker 3: they just from a coach all the way down to
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  Speaker 3: the bottom of the roster, perspective it's like all of
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  Speaker 3: them were looking around, Like, hey what are we supposed
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  Speaker 3: to do?
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  Speaker 2: Here AND i was, like man, it not only do
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  Speaker 2: you need the.
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  Speaker 3: Talent do you need the right bodies and that's what
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  Speaker 3: The jazz are going to try to get with this
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  Speaker 3: draft and all the other personnel moves they.
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  Speaker 2: Made but you also need the.
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  Speaker 4: Experience wait, wait, wait, wait before you, Finished i'm starrying her.
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  Speaker 4: UP i don't think you have to worry about the
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  Speaker 4: draft to get the right bodies For. WENBY i think
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  Speaker 4: you already have. Them, sure because if you think about this,
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  Speaker 4: logically let's just Pretend Walker kessler is. There So Walker,
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  Speaker 4: Kessler Larie, Markinen Jaron Jackson. Jr just start right. There
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  Speaker 4: don't even get to Eighth. BAILEY i know it's six to,
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  Speaker 4: nine but, like just start start right. There two of
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  Speaker 4: those three guys can easily bump him on defense and
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  Speaker 4: play offensive line and stretch him out on defense where
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  Speaker 4: they have to he has to guard the. Perimeter it
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  Speaker 4: is blatantly obvious that The age family and everybody involved
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  Speaker 4: with the personnel with The, Jazz Justin, zanak whoever else
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  Speaker 4: is involved at this, point clearly understood that before this
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  Speaker 4: finals understood how exactly to go up Against. Wemby and
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  Speaker 4: they already have those. Guys they don't have to address
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  Speaker 4: more of those guys in MY i understand you're talking
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  Speaker 4: about the rest of the, roster BUT i think it's
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  Speaker 4: important for all the jazz Man seawn listening to you
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  Speaker 4: right now to, realize based on What Karl Anthony towns is,
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  Speaker 4: done don't you have multiple versions Of Carl Anthony town's type.
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  Speaker 4: PLAYERS i think physically you.
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  Speaker 3: Do my question for the the sequence we saw last night,
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  Speaker 3: IS i don't think there's a personnel problem with The
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  Speaker 3: San Antonio, spurs even against This knixt. Team the decision making,
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  Speaker 3: process the shot, selection the inexperience of that. Youth that's, like,
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  Speaker 3: man no matter how talented you, are the like you
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  Speaker 3: didn't you were not prepared to handle, This and it
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  Speaker 3: seemed like maybe even your coaching staff was not prepared
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  Speaker 3: to handle this well because you haven't been here. Before
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  Speaker 3: so even as The jazz tried to accumulate talent and,
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  Speaker 3: stuff there's, like there's gonna have to be some patience with, like,
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  Speaker 3: well you got to you gotta let them get to
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs. First then you got to let them make
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  Speaker 3: their mistakes in the playoffs and then maybe learn from
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  Speaker 3: those mistakes the next. Year in the, playoffs it felt
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  Speaker 3: like to me last night was a perfect illustration of
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  Speaker 3: how like just having the alien is far from an
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  Speaker 3: enough in TODAY'S.
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  Speaker 4: Nba absolutely, Right AND i think you nailed it with
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  Speaker 4: the coaching part of. It SO i think we all, thought,
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  Speaker 4: Oh wemby's there ahead of. Time, Well wemby's, inexperienced poke
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  Speaker 4: its ugly head there in that spot like anyone else
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  Speaker 4: would at twenty two years. Old when you think about
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  Speaker 4: really the three best players of this, team one it's twenty,
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  Speaker 4: two one's twenty, one and one's twenty With, Wemby castle And,
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  Speaker 4: HARPER i don't think any of us pointed out. Enough,
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  Speaker 4: wait the inexperience in getting it ahead of time is
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  Speaker 4: the coach, too because he's having his worst series on
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  Speaker 4: the biggest, stage in the most important, moments with a
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  Speaker 4: double digit lead in all four, games three of which
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  Speaker 4: the team. Blew SO i think we forgot about that.
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  Speaker 4: Part and then you look up and down that, bench
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  Speaker 4: AND i was thinking about this today AND i just.
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  Speaker 4: DID i double checked it to make sure to my,
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  Speaker 4: knowledge and you guys can triple check. This they do
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  Speaker 4: not have an ex head coach on that bench alongside of.
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  Speaker 4: HIM i think one of him Being Mitch. Johnson now
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  Speaker 4: he's been. AWESOME i understand that he has not a good, series,
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  Speaker 4: RIGHT i think we all can agree on. THAT i
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  Speaker 4: think one of the smartest Hires i've ever seen a
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  Speaker 4: coach make in our lifetime in sports was when thirty
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  Speaker 4: one year old or whatever he, Was sean McVay took
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  Speaker 4: over THE La rams and his first move was to
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  Speaker 4: go out and get like eighty year Old Wade phillips
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  Speaker 4: and SAY i just need. YOU i need you here
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  Speaker 4: to be MY, dc BUT i need you really here
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  Speaker 4: to tell me what the heck to. Do And Mitch, johnson,
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  Speaker 4: yes he Has Greg popovich, obviously But pop is not
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  Speaker 4: sitting there during the games in next to. Him it's
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  Speaker 4: a little different when you have the, mentor let's just
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  Speaker 4: use football, Terms and when you have the Mentor monday
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  Speaker 4: Through saturday and that Influence monday Through, saturday they can't
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  Speaker 4: really help you in the moment On. Sundays Greg popovich
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  Speaker 4: can Help Mitch johnson twenty one of twenty four hours a,
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  Speaker 4: day but there's a three hour span where he cannot help,
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  Speaker 4: him like, literally BY nba, law he can't go and
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  Speaker 4: talk to him or anything like. That maybe a, halftime
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  Speaker 4: but you get the point in that moment to, say,
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  Speaker 4: hey you need to tell the team it's about milking
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  Speaker 4: clock and not taking. Shots so maybe Dearon fox doesn't do,
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  Speaker 4: that or you, know we're up twenty, nine let's sneak
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  Speaker 4: wenby some minutes on the bench. Here if they cut
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  Speaker 4: within twenty we put them, back but not until. Then
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  Speaker 4: even if it means you're not happy With cornett and
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  Speaker 4: you want to go To Kelly, olynok or you want
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  Speaker 4: to go To plumbley Or, bionmbo whatever it may, BE
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  Speaker 4: i think this is what we need to. Do they
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  Speaker 4: don't have anybody on that bench to my knowledge that
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  Speaker 4: has been a full time former head, coach AND i
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  Speaker 4: think they missed that last.
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  Speaker 3: Night this entire playoff run has very much been About Jalen,
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  Speaker 3: brunson and he's been great in this series as. Well
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  Speaker 3: but but are these finals just as much About Ogn,
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  Speaker 3: andobi especially last night?
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  Speaker 5: One AND i got destroyed AND i think at times rightfully.
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  Speaker 4: So THAT i was destroyed by WHERE i. SAID i
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  Speaker 4: want to say it Was. May it was in, summer Early.
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  Speaker 4: May we posted the clip ad On SPORTS espn today
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  Speaker 4: On twitter THAT i SAID i Thought ognnobi was the
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  Speaker 4: best player on The. Knicks and just to be, CLEAR
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  Speaker 4: i am From New. YORK i live In New. YORK
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  Speaker 4: i am not A knicks fan Though i've never really
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: been A knicks fan for whatever. Reason AND i thought
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  Speaker 4: That og was the best player on the. Team AND
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: i got ridiculed because of how many big Shots Dayler
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  Speaker 4: brunston hit and how he's led the team and how
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  Speaker 4: he's mister, clutch and fans and media members are right
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  Speaker 4: to rip me on. That but HOW i define best
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  Speaker 4: player is the ability to do everything at all times
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  Speaker 4: and never have to come off come out of the,
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  Speaker 4: game Right Dale brunston at times in his careers had
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  Speaker 4: to come out of the game for. Defense ognanobi in
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  Speaker 4: the final fifteen seconds of the game had an unbelievable
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  Speaker 4: block on an ill advised decision by De Aaron. Fox
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  Speaker 4: he should have milked the clock and not taken the
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  Speaker 4: shot as we, know and then had the greatest tipp
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  Speaker 4: in the history of the. Sports, SO i, mean he
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  Speaker 4: is phenomenal AND i THINK i had to bet now
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  Speaker 4: he was hurt for the championship, run BUT i would
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  Speaker 4: have to bet his year. Around Kawhi leonard helped him
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  Speaker 4: In toronto in twenty. Nineteen and NOW i don't know
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  Speaker 4: That og And Kawhi leonards said a word to each,
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  Speaker 4: other BUT i have to assume just by sitting there
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  Speaker 4: and watching, him you learn a. Ton Dwayne wade could
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  Speaker 4: walk through The jazz practice and if you don't learn from, that,
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  Speaker 4: man that's on, you Right And dwayne is not their.
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  Speaker 4: Teammates i'm A heat fan in case you haven't figured
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  Speaker 4: that part out, Yet but Like, dwayne you, know you
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  Speaker 4: have to learn from. Him og was Around kawhi and
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  Speaker 4: he That's, Sean that's kind of who he reminds me.
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  Speaker 4: Of now he's kind of A kawhi junior in some regards.
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  Speaker 2: With less load.
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  Speaker 4: Management well, yeah but he unfortunately gets, Hurt so maybe
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: that's his load management with the, hamstring but it is legit.
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  Speaker 4: Injury AND i don't know that he plants.
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  Speaker 3: CREEDS i would be remiss IF i didn't talk to
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  Speaker 3: you about the THE Nba draft coming in less than
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  Speaker 3: two weeks, now and The Utah jazz obviously have that
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  Speaker 3: number two. Pick Cam boozer's agent is doing great work
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  Speaker 3: and trying to insert his name into this top, three
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  Speaker 3: top two. Conversation, Obviously jazz fans have familiarity with The boozer,
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  Speaker 3: name SO i think they glom onto. That i'm not,
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  Speaker 3: convinced but how much of it is just that agent
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  Speaker 3: doing his, job and how much of it is legitimate
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  Speaker 3: that That Cam boozer might at least be in consideration
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  Speaker 3: as he came To Salt Lake city to work Out.
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  Speaker 4: WELL i thought it was really, interesting And i'm Sure
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  Speaker 4: i'm sure you guys talked about it and heard Just
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  Speaker 4: but WHEN i Heard Bill simmons Of The ringer mentioned
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  Speaker 4: that he kind of could see that, happening and it's
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  Speaker 4: based on all of his amazing knowledge around The Anges
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  Speaker 4: forever In boston and his fandom and connections In. Boston
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  Speaker 4: that the way That simmons kind of phrased it sounded
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  Speaker 4: like like kind to be. Intel, no not LIKE i
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  Speaker 4: like Aby, hypothetically it sounded like intel of this is
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  Speaker 4: WHAT i. Know, Splash this is What i've, experienced is
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  Speaker 4: A celtics fans. Slash this is what reminds me of
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  Speaker 4: what they would, do et. Cetera but this is WHERE
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  Speaker 4: i need your help walking through. This let's say so
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  Speaker 4: as of right, now if everybody comes back right And
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  Speaker 4: Walker kessler is resigned long term for this. Team So
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  Speaker 4: casser's the, Five Jared Jackson junior the four market in the?
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  Speaker 4: Three Is Ace bailey a? Two or is he coming
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  Speaker 4: off the? Bench so like they already, have would, You
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  Speaker 4: Aggrede seawan help me on this four guys for the
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  Speaker 4: for three spots there? Updrugs?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: Okay AM i missing anybody in that part of it? Yet?
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  Speaker 4: Well or is that the four for the?
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  Speaker 2: Three, no that's the four for the three in terms
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  Speaker 2: of potential starting? Lineup?
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  Speaker 4: Right so then let's say they Draft. Boozer what does
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  Speaker 4: that tell? You BECAUSE i feel LIKE i have to
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  Speaker 4: Go Brian winhorse and say what's going on In? Utah
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  Speaker 4: because somebody that would indicate that somebody is? Out, NO
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  Speaker 4: i mean he's. Listed Karon boozer is last listed at
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  Speaker 4: like what six nine two. Fifty that is an old
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  Speaker 4: school power forward type position when you AND i were
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  Speaker 4: growing up like that's that would be the size of
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  Speaker 4: a true hardcore power. Forward So Jaren Jackson junior is
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  Speaker 4: not going anywhere because that indicates that they're. Okay so that's,
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  Speaker 4: Okay but then it Is Camaron boozer playing a. Three
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  Speaker 4: It's Jaron jackson junior playing a three the wings today
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  Speaker 4: like they would have to then guard like an oversized
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  Speaker 4: two guard really is playing most of the wings in the, league,
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  Speaker 4: right BECAUSE i mean that's where now, AGAIN i have
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  Speaker 4: no problem with them going, big but that means a
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  Speaker 4: starting five would be Eighth, Bailey Cameron. Boozer i'm just
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  Speaker 4: saying two through five would be Eighth, Bailey Cameron, Boozer
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  Speaker 4: Jaron Jackson. Jr And?
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  Speaker 2: Walk?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah or is it that they would Let tessler? Go
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  Speaker 4: did let them? Walk or sign in? Trade Darren Jackson.
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  Speaker 4: Jr would be at the five boozer the four market
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  Speaker 4: in the, THREE i guess a boozer you have to
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  Speaker 4: go with the windy fingers of what's going on in.
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  Speaker 2: You, well.
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  Speaker 3: That amount of THOUGHT i think puts us in a
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  Speaker 3: pretzel and makes it easier to just Take Darren.
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  Speaker 2: Peterson so that, Way so do.
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  Speaker 4: You think this is all smoke screen or do you
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  Speaker 4: think there's any chance On june twenty third That Cameron
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  Speaker 4: boozer goes too over all To?
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  Speaker 3: Utah until, yesterday BASICALLY i thought it was a foregone
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  Speaker 3: conclusion that it would be either De bonsa because How
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  Speaker 3: washington falls in love With darren or would Be Darren.
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  Speaker 4: And, okay what happened yesterday is change your.
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  Speaker 3: Mind, well more, conversation more conversations with people that are
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  Speaker 3: closer to the, organization and you know some of that
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  Speaker 3: conspiracy thought that you just mentioned where it's, like, okay
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  Speaker 3: maybe maybe we should be considering the, links the, consistency
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  Speaker 3: the fact that they know the. Family AND i know
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  Speaker 3: That i'm kind of alone on this hill, now BUT
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  Speaker 3: i do think it matters to This jazz organization that
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  Speaker 3: they are viewed as a, destination a friendly, destination a
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  Speaker 3: place that players want to. Stay AND i do think
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  Speaker 3: it matters that they get a player in this draft
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  Speaker 3: with this pick that at least for the next five
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  Speaker 3: years is talking like he wants to. Stay whether he
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  Speaker 3: does or not will only come down to contract offers and.
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  Speaker 3: Such BUT i think that might, matter AND i think
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  Speaker 3: that boozers more likely Than peter in that.
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  Speaker 2: Regard if that makes, Sense, yeah, no it.
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  Speaker 4: DOES i don't. Know it's an interesting. THING i don't
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  Speaker 4: know that anymore in THE nba that players staying has
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  Speaker 4: anything to do with, money because they make it's the pre, agency,
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  Speaker 4: Right it's like you get the contracts, extension then you
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  Speaker 4: ask out after to guarantee yourself the. Money so the
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  Speaker 4: money is going to be similar in many. PLACES i
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  Speaker 4: think it is the, winning the, fit the, culture et.
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  Speaker 4: Cetera BUT i think that's an interesting point that if
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: you Draft Cameron, boozer the assumption is he will never
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: walk Into Ryan smith or anybody and The angels and
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: SAY i want to not be. Here but that is
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: the same For, devansay is it.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Not, yeah that's that's something that you know a lot
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: of people, said, well aj would feel that. Way he's
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: already got the links, here he decided to come, here
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: his family has moved. Here but then but then he
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: went On Gilbert arenas's podcast and he was, like, No
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: boston is my. HOME i live In, utah But boston
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: is home for. Me and of course everyone dissected that
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: and was just, like, wait he doesn't View utah as
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: home even though all of his people are. Here, Now
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: boston is his. Home SO i, mean we're we're two
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: weeks away from a. Draft we're really getting into the
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: nitpicky stuff.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Now all, Right so let me give you a. Hypothetical,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Okay i'm gonna give you two. Choices The jazz could
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: either give up extra picked and trade up to, one
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: or get extra picked and trade down to. Four which
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: one would you rather than?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: DO i would rather them move up to.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: One you've asked this fan base for too long to,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: say you know what it's. Coming some good things are.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Coming we're building for the. Future good things are. Coming
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: you've got you AND i just walked through what the
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: potential starting lineup could. Be there are a lot of
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: players that people believe in that could actually put together
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: something interesting. Here if then you, say all, right we're
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: gonna to get still a good player in like A
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: wilson or.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Whatever we're still going to get a good, player but we're.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Passing over on these franchise, changers these guys that you
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: already know and have already you, know developed an expectation.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: For and maybe two years from, now there's another one
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: or three years from, now there's somebody else we can
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: add to this. MIX i JUST i don't think it
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: makes sense for where the franchise is at right.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Now but If boozer potentially is their guy that they,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: want and they're of the belief that they could get,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: him let's say at three or at, four that would
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: fall in line exactly with What Danny ainge did With.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: It's a very ange. Thing, yeah SO i could see.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: It but if you're asking me WHAT i would rather
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: see them, do my rather is go get Aj debonsa
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: and just go all in on what this vision for
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: your ownership was when he brought him To utah to
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: play high school, basketball you.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Know and so if they get, him who? Goes because
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: it seems like there's too much again up front in that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Sceneria that's a that's also a good, question AND i
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: don't have an answer for.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: IT i, GUESS i.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Guess.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Uh we are up against the end of our, show
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: SO i gotta let you. Go BUT i cannot tell
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: you how MUCH i appreciate your time and your thoughtful.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Conversation let's do it again.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Soon always great. Talking thanks for having. Me