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Hutton & Withrow: Titans Front Office Under Fire: Jared Stillman Exposes Turmoil, NFL & SEC Week 7 Picks · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: We are out of the gates on sport and state.
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  Speaker 1: Glad you're with us. It is Hutton and Withrow presented
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  Speaker 1: by Hard Rock. Bet, a lot to get to today.
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  Speaker 1: We have Chad Withrow coming up in hour number two.
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  Speaker 1: Just around the corner in about 15, 20 minutes or so,
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  Speaker 1: we have Jared Stillman. Make that about 30 minutes. Jared
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  Speaker 1: Stillman will join us. And we also, from Stillman & Company,
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  Speaker 1: also Todd Furman to get you ready for the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: the best bets, and much more headed your way this hour.
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  Speaker 1: we will have in about 15 minutes a reaction to
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  Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, the President Burke Nihill hiring someone from
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  Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals who is in the middle of a
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  Speaker 1: lawsuit for racial discrimination allegations, a civil lawsuit. And if
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  Speaker 1: you're familiar with Greg Sciano in Sciato Sunday, where he
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  Speaker 1: was going to be hired by the Tennessee Volunteers, this
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  Speaker 1: is the Titan Sciano moment, to say the least. with
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  Speaker 1: what we just heard from Ramon Foster, who is the
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  Speaker 1: analyst for Titans Radio, former Pittsburgh Steelers offensive lineman, Tennessee volunteer,
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  Speaker 1: giving his opinion on someone that's involved in a racial
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  Speaker 1: discrimination lawsuit. We'll let you hear that coming up very,
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  Speaker 1: very soon. First, though, it is time for one big
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  Speaker 1: thing on every NFL game. And we start with Thursday
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  Speaker 1: night football. Tonight, Seahawks at Broncos. Seahawks minus two and
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  Speaker 1: a half. over under a 40.5 against Denver. And Denver's
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  Speaker 1: the home team here. The right team's favored. But 86%
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  Speaker 1: $ 130, 000 on Denver tonight. You're the Broncos fan. What do
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  Speaker 2: But there's not a whole lot about Denver that excites me.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like they always show up for the games
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  Speaker 2: that they maybe shouldn't be in, but also fall flat
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  Speaker 2: on their face in some of those games that they
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  Speaker 2: should be in. I don't feel confident with placing $ 10
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  Speaker 2: at Hard Rock, Matt, but.
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  Speaker 1: $ 130, 000. $ 130, 000. I hope that guy wins just.
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  Speaker 1: That would win you $ 305, 000. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll think
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  Speaker 1: about it. We must know something we don't. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: a hard rock bet. Denver, the only winning team in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL to trail in the fourth quarter in every
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  Speaker 1: single game this season. And Bo Nix, he's facing a
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  Speaker 1: nightmare schematic matchup. Under pressure, he ranks 30th in completion percentage.
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  Speaker 1: And now he faces Seattle, second highest pressure rate in
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  Speaker 1: the National Football League. We head to Sunday night football.
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys at Green Bay. Packers... One and a half is
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  Speaker 1: the line here. I mean, back and forth game expected
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  Speaker 1: over under 53. 96% of the total handle is on
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  Speaker 1: the over for this game at 53 points. Dallas defense
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  Speaker 1: has yet to have an interception all season. They have
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  Speaker 1: only five sacks in five weeks. The Packers, they're going
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  Speaker 1: to want to use Marshawn Lloyd often. The Cowboys, they
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  Speaker 1: surrender a league-worst 168 rushing yards per game. We go
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  Speaker 1: to Monday night. Commanders and Niners. Niners by 7.5 at 50.
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  Speaker 1: 50.5 is now on the total points. Unbeaten San Francisco.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to be without Jerry Greenlaw. He's out with
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  Speaker 1: a one-game suspension. And Devo Samuel with a hamstring injury.
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  Speaker 1: Washington's coming off that wild 27-27 tie after coaching malpractice.
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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous with how that game ended last week. The hard
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  Speaker 1: rock bet action here. The money line handle split dead
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  Speaker 1: even 50-50 as the larger wagers are taking a shot
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  Speaker 1: on Washington at plus 325. Sunday, 425. Bills, Raiders. The
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  Speaker 1: Raiders are catching all these teams. Big teams coming off
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  Speaker 1: these big wins. And they haven't performed well recently. They're 3-2.
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  Speaker 1: Bills favored by 5 on the road in Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: over under 53.5. That's a familiar number this week. And 90%
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  Speaker 1: of the total, hammering the over at 53. Josh Allen's
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  Speaker 1: anytime touchdown prop is outdrawing every single wide receiver and
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  Speaker 1: tight end on either roster for the prop for you.
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  Speaker 1: Nine total turnovers, though, for Buffalo over their last three games,
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  Speaker 1: and that feeds directly into the strength of the Raiders' defense,
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  Speaker 1: first in the NFL with 10 takeaways. We head down
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  Speaker 1: on the schedule. Chargers at Chiefs. Disappointment of the season.
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  Speaker 1: The Chargers. Much higher expectations than the Titans and Dolphins,
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  Speaker 1: who are both expected to lose. The Chargers, they're 0-5.
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  Speaker 1: And Kansas City favored by 8. Justin Herbert sacked 17
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  Speaker 1: times in five games. Kenneth Walker III. Six total touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: in four games. His anytime touchdown prop at Hard Rock,
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  Speaker 1: drawing more than four times the bets against of any
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  Speaker 1: other prop in this game. Jump on board. Roll with
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  Speaker 1: us on that one. We should make that my lock.
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  Speaker 1: I should have thought about that. It's coming up later. Sunday, 4-0-5. Cardinals, Rams,
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals at 1-4. They beat the Chargers in Week 1.
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  Speaker 1: That looked like a good win. Turns out, not so good.
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  Speaker 1: The Rams are 2-3. The Rams, though, are still a
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  Speaker 1: heavy favorite to win the Super Bowl. And, well... Check
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  Speaker 1: this out. We've got Arizona entering a franchise record nine-game
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  Speaker 1: home losing streak. They've just set that mark. Jacoby Brissett,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to remain the starter. And 73% is backing Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: And when that happened, oddsmakers, they didn't drop it down.
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  Speaker 1: They raised it even higher. They pushed L.A. from 12.5
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  Speaker 1: to 13.5. And, well, why? Because Sean McVay, 16-3. I
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  Speaker 1: guess the Cardinals over his tenure there and the, over
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  Speaker 1: that span that they've outscored Arizona by us by an
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  Speaker 1: a half Puka to Kua returns. So get ready for
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  Speaker 1: some offense. Jeremiah love questionable. Um, he's got the hamstring injury,
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  Speaker 1: I believe ankle and Brissette. Again, he remains the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: They they're raising that they're, they're actually fading the public.
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  Speaker 1: I've I'm going to bet the Cardinals. If, um, Ramsey. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans are a dumpster fire right now. And
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  Speaker 1: it's one thing after the other. Chad and I have
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  Speaker 1: been mentioning the slogan right before the season. They were saying, like,
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  Speaker 1: this is our floor, and we're going to get better
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  Speaker 1: every week. Salah was saying that. And it's coach speak.
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  Speaker 1: I know what he means in that. But in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the outlook of the team, the floor continues to
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  Speaker 1: go down, tunneling. It's like the Elon tunnel here in
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  Speaker 1: town that they're building to the airport or a condo
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  Speaker 1: with a parking garage that goes underneath the building. It
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  Speaker 1: continues to grow and grow and grow with the same
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  Speaker 1: decision maker overseeing the entire building, the entire practice facility.
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  Speaker 1: And it's Burke Nihill. He has recently hired a new director.
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  Speaker 1: a new executive to come in and be the chief
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  Speaker 1: business officer, which in essence is the guy that's heading
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  Speaker 1: up all of the business for the new stadium. He's
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  Speaker 1: coming from the Arizona Cardinals, and he's been a buddy
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  Speaker 1: of Burke's. That's not an issue. You can be a
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  Speaker 1: friend of someone and work alongside them. That happens all
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  Speaker 1: the time. But outside of Burke, there's really no one
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  Speaker 1: that is in charge of anything because Burke oversees everything.
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  Speaker 1: And he oversaw this hire. And it just turns out
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  Speaker 1: that Jeremy Walls is in the middle of a lawsuit.
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  Speaker 1: And so is the owner of the Cardinals. And this
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  Speaker 1: comes down to a racial discrimination lawsuit. And you know
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  Speaker 1: where this is leading. They've hired this guy in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of a lawsuit. Optics were already bad for the
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Perception is awful. The fan base dwindling by
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  Speaker 1: the day. And... even Titans radio analyst Ramon Foster, and
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  Speaker 1: I understand where he's coming from on this. This is
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  Speaker 1: what the Titans are putting out based on decisions they're making.
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  Speaker 1: And Ramon, who is working for the Titans, had this
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  Speaker 1: to say this morning on 104.5 The Zone.
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  Speaker 4: When or if he's hired? Somebody will have to answer
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  Speaker 4: for this.
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  Speaker 1: For.
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  Speaker 4: myself, for Will to have questions surrounding this racial discrimination lawsuit,
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  Speaker 4: they'll have to give that answer. And here's what I
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  Speaker 4: will also say. It can't just be a softball, hey,
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  Speaker 4: what are you doing? You have to give more detail
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  Speaker 4: than you probably should to give this fan base an
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  Speaker 4: ease about thinking they're hiring, basically the way our chat
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  Speaker 4: is saying it, a racist. They'll have to clean that up.
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  Speaker 4: They'll have to give details into the whys and the how.
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  Speaker 4: And if he does speak, which usually these people don't speak,
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  Speaker 4: but somebody will have to speak for him.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no one needs to speak for Burke Nihill because
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  Speaker 1: he speaks on behalf of ownership, except he's silent. It
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  Speaker 1: is crickets from the decision makers, from the management, from
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  Speaker 1: the leaders of the Tennessee Titans. And, well... What does
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  Speaker 1: that show? It shows exactly who they are. The 0-5
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans with a 3-win quarterback, with a 20-win head
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  Speaker 1: coach over his career, and they continue to tunnel further
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  Speaker 1: and further down. More on this is coming straight ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Jared Stillman is joining us from Stillman & Company, and
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  Speaker 1: he broke the story about the new CBO, the Chief
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  Speaker 1: Business Officer, who has... pissed off the fan base, and
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  Speaker 1: is becoming the new Shiano Sunday, except it's Titans Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: How are things?
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  Speaker 5: Good.
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  Speaker 6: I actually think that that is genius, by the way,
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  Speaker 6: the way Clay does that with those numbers. But it's
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  Speaker 6: never dull, apparently, in Titan land, even with the team
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  Speaker 6: at 0-5. So we continue on new executive hires. I
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  Speaker 6: don't think I've ever talked about executive leadership that wasn't
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  Speaker 6: technically football-related as much as I have over the last
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  Speaker 6: two weeks of my entire life.
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  Speaker 1: So it's interesting to me because– They're not speaking, the
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  Speaker 1: executives and the ownership. And it's not like, okay, if
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  Speaker 1: they speak, it's going to change anything. But the accountability,
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  Speaker 1: that is the example of what is portrayed from the
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  Speaker 1: organization from the top down. Perception is reality, and it's
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  Speaker 1: definitely reality that it is a mess. You talked to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of different people recently. about what Burton-Ihill's up to.
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  Speaker 1: Is it a common theme? That's what I want to know.
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  Speaker 1: From inside the building, what are they saying the vibe's like?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say the vibes are pretty terrible. And not
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  Speaker 6: just the standard, the football team is 0-5 vibes.
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  Speaker 5: Which for any organization.
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  Speaker 5: Is tough to overcome or deal with.
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  Speaker 6: But I think on the corporate side of the Titans,
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  Speaker 6: there's a fear inside of the building that they could
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  Speaker 6: be called into the office by the Grim Reaper next.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt.
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  Speaker 6: And I think that that does trickle over into football
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  Speaker 6: to a certain extent because we've seen this when it
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  Speaker 6: comes to football. John Robinson, to me, is the most
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  Speaker 6: obvious example. A general manager who was extended to In
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  Speaker 6: January of 2022, and at 7-5 and in first place,
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  Speaker 6: John Robinson in December of 2022 was fired. So less
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  Speaker 6: than a year after signing an extension while sitting in
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  Speaker 6: first place, the general manager got canned. And it's not
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  Speaker 6: just Robinson that that happens to. This has happened to
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  Speaker 6: so many different employees over the years, whether it was
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  Speaker 6: 28-year PR executive Robbie Bourne, Or even recently, Adam Neuse,
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  Speaker 6: who had been with the team for a while, or
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  Speaker 6: Aaron Swartz, who led their rebrand. I think the fear is,
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  Speaker 6: if you currently are a Titans employee, the fear is
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  Speaker 6: that any five-minute interval, it could be your five-minute interval
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  Speaker 6: in this world. And it certainly is not something that
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  Speaker 6: I think creates a positive culture. And it's really hard
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  Speaker 6: to create a positive culture when the team is 0-5.
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  Speaker 6: But the Titans are certainly doing everything in their power
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  Speaker 6: to keep their building from having a positive culture.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, 0-5 or 7-5. I mean, they didn't win
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  Speaker 1: a game after she fired John Robinson at 7-5. And
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  Speaker 1: I'll say this. It was Burt Nihill who took the
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  Speaker 1: cell phone into John Robinson's office when she fired him.
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  Speaker 1: It was Burt Nihill who Mike Vrabel went to and
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  Speaker 1: wanted to know, am I the head coach of the
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans? He wanted to know. Am I fired? Am
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  Speaker 1: I staying? What are we doing? who would fire Nihil?
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  Speaker 1: Is Amy just going to call him or is Amy
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  Speaker 1: going to trust someone to figure out, not just to
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  Speaker 1: hand the phone, but to figure out what's the, what's
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  Speaker 1: the next direction for the who's next in line. If
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  Speaker 1: it's Burke running things, I don't think, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: she knows Mike Berganzi. I don't think she knows Robert Sala.
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  Speaker 1: She's not there. Um, Bryce Wasserman, maybe, but again, like that,
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  Speaker 1: that's a huge, that's a huge job. Um, That's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what structure's in place to just go
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  Speaker 1: in and take over what Burke has taken over. I'm
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  Speaker 1: fascinated by it because I don't have a solution to
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  Speaker 1: it right now based on the people that they have
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  Speaker 1: in place and in charge because Burke's done all the hiring.
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  Speaker 6: I think the real issue here is that Amy Adam
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  Speaker 6: Strunk does whatever she can to avoid conflict. And I've
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  Speaker 6: had several people tell me that Amy Adam Strunk is
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  Speaker 6: not a bad person. And then Amy Adams-Strunk likes owning
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  Speaker 6: a football team.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: But she doesn't want the day-to-day hassles of owning a
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  Speaker 6: football team. And there is a certain level of responsibility
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  Speaker 6: and attention that come with owning an NFL team.
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  Speaker 5: There are 32 of these on the planet.
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  Speaker 6: And so I think the question has to be asked,
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  Speaker 6: and I think this has to be publicly. I think
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  Speaker 6: the message has to get sent. Easton Freeze this morning
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  Speaker 6: published his report about his Titans fan survey sentiment at AtoZSports.com.
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  Speaker 6: And it's clear Titan fans are fed up with Amy Adams-Shrunk,
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  Speaker 6: and they're fed up with Burke Nihill. And so the
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  Speaker 6: problem for Amy Adams-Shrunk is once somebody can get through
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  Speaker 6: to her that Burke Nihill is not helping her football
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  Speaker 6: operation or her business operation anymore, then Amy Adams Strunk
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  Speaker 6: has to do what every other controlling owner in the
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  Speaker 6: NFL would have to do, and she's going to have
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  Speaker 6: to make the change herself.
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  Speaker 5: She's going to have to embrace the conflict.
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  Speaker 6: And I understand some people don't like that, but the
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  Speaker 6: reality is if you want to own an NFL team
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  Speaker 6: and you want to own a successful NFL team, that's
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  Speaker 6: what you have to do. So if she's not willing
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  Speaker 6: to do that, then she should, like many people suggest,
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  Speaker 6: sell the team. And if she's not going to do that,
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  Speaker 6: then she's never going to have a good team. So
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  Speaker 6: that's where we stand.
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  Speaker 1: Who does she put in place, though? You know, like
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  Speaker 1: who's the business of that stadium? I mean, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to get to the guy that they're hiring that they
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  Speaker 1: say they haven't decided on yet when we all know
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  Speaker 1: they have. You're absolutely right on the report. I'm just asking, like,
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  Speaker 1: where's Steve Underwood? That's who she would turn to.
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know anyone else, Jared. Like, it's Burke who
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  Speaker 1: has the power because he's the only one. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's really no one else. Based on where they're going,
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  Speaker 1: there's a huge opening of a stadium, all these different things,
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  Speaker 1: and he's the guy that's been running it, and someone
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  Speaker 1: else would just come in and jump in and be
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  Speaker 1: running it. It's a big decision beyond just get him
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  Speaker 1: out of here, get him away from the football team.
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  Speaker 1: He should already be away from the football team. It
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  Speaker 1: should be Borgonzi and Salah, and Burke oversees every decision.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I would say that even if it is Borgonzi
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  Speaker 6: and Sala, that still has Burke's hand in on it
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: because Mike Borgonzi was hired by Chad Brinker, who was
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: hired by Burke Nihill. So, I mean, Burke is trying
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: to detach himself from the football team, but that's just
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: not reality.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Well, he hasn't done that. You're right. You're right.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: No, and I think that the local media in Nashville,
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: you follow it very closely, Hutton. I mean, they're pointing
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: a finger at Burke Nihill, and they're not accepting the
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: Burke Nihill doesn't do football discussion. And Burke Nile is
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: skated by, quote unquote, not doing football unless it was
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: convenient for him for a long time. And I don't
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: think they're putting up with it anymore. I think when
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: it comes to Amy Adams Strunk, the convenient name would
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: be Steve Underwood, who is a president of the organization
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: for years and years, dating back to Bud Adams, Amy
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: Adams Strunk's father's tenure as owner. But at some point,
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: doesn't there have to be for Amy Adams Strunk an
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: ability to find somebody to run the team? Again, I
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: understand she doesn't necessarily want to act as if she
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: owns a football team, but that doesn't change the reality
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: that she does own a football team.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: But Jared, the thing is, the difference between her and
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Burke is she actually has shown that she can have
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: success as an owner. Since Burke's been here, they've gone downhill,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: and the bottom continues to bottom out. The bottom floor
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: is actually, there's a few garages underneath this building that
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: they've built. We've seen her build it to an AFC
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Championship run, and she did that through Steve Underwood. At
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: least she knew what she didn't know. What she didn't
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: know was, where should I turn? If she turned to
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: someone she trusted, she's just trusting the wrong person right now.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I like the fact that that she would do that. Because,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I was in a Titans radio interview
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: for the play-by-play job, and there was no one from
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Titans radio on the interview process. That's not how it
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: should be, I wouldn't think. I was surprised by that.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I did an interview with Burke. It was fine. I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: enjoyed it, but it wasn't about the position. That's the problem.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: It Amy at least did that when she found John Robinson.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I do find that to be a positive in her
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: favor that she should get back to.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that, again, Amy either has to accept
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: the fact that she does own an NFL team or
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: she needs to sell the NFL team. I think at
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: this point, the idea of Amy not having some sort
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: of responsibility in running the team and running it the
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: right way is a disservice to her fan base, which
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: is paying for a $ 2 billion stadium that she's moving into.
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: And I understand the stadium is already built, and I
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: understand that the bonds are going to get paid, and
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: I get all that. But at the end of the day,
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: Amy has said, Burke Nihill has said, that this is
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: the fans' team. And if this really is the fans' team,
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: then Amy Adam Strunk does owe it to the fans
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: to try to get it right. I can't tell you
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: that Amy Adam Strunk is going to get it right
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: or that she owes it to the fans to get
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: it right because getting it right is not a choice.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: It is an outcome. We hope that it gets right.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: But by doing nothing and by saying nothing... She is
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: in dereliction of her duties as a controlling owner of
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: an NFL team that once again is getting a $ 2
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: billion stadium. And so for Amy Adams Strunk, whether that
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: is approaching the league and asking for help in finding
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: a team president, whether that is promoting somebody that she
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: trusts within who maybe doesn't have traditionally... a team president's resume,
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: whatever it may be, she's got to try something new.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: The idea of going back to the ranch in Texas
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: and letting Burke Nihill fire the next person and the
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: next set of executives and then hiring the next executive
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: who is facing pending legal claims. That's got to go.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: It cannot continue to be the same. And if it is,
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: I think she's already doing irreparable harm to her fan base.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: the already small size of it. But if Amy Adam
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: Strunk does nothing and continues to trust in Bert Nihill,
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: she really is going to lose a large portion of
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: her fan base.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: And that's not going to put her where she wants
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: to be.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: That memo that was out from last week said they
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: wanted to double their fan base. That would mean just
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: get your other fans back from the Mid-South is what
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I would, what's what I referred to. The focus on
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the fan base has long been outside of this. Like,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: The NFL owners, by the way, to me it's not
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: about her speaking. It's about the organization speaking. There's not
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: many NFL owners who speak, but the organization speaks on
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: behalf of the owner. And that's not happening here. He
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: took his own name off the website. That's beyond, I
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: don't understand it. I don't understand the move with the
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: executive that I'm going to ask you about in a second,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: with the legal background that comes into this. Everything is
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: just so nonsensical. And if it's about selling the team,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I propose sell a portion of the team, be the
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: controlling owner, but bring someone in like a Brady-esque move
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: in Vegas where you have a direct point person that
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: is in charge of all football decisions. And we know
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: it because they're owners. They just don't have a position.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: They own the right to have the position. I think
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: that's the structure. She can stay in Texas because you
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: have someone planted roots in the building, in Nashville, wherever,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: and we know exactly the direction and the focus. The
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: focus right now is not on football. It's about putting
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift in that dome. That's where they've lost focus.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: It's more about a Google-oriented plan than it is about
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the structure of an organization that is focused on a
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They've lost The last time that they had
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: a move with Callahan, Brinker didn't mention the word championship.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Every time Amy has had a statement, she's mentioned the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: word championship. They're not going to win a championship with
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Burt Nihill doing this because they don't talk about it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that what you're talking about, though, regardless
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: is some sort of action that she's not doing now.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: We're talking about, okay, sell part of the team to
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: Nick Saban, let Nick Saban run the team.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: I'm for that. But that requires an action on her part.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Sure, yes.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, even if.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: It were to be installing her cousin, or I guess
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: her nephew, Kenneth Adams, into the position of team president.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I would be for that.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: I would be too.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: If it's as simple as putting Kenneth Adams, your own blood,
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: somebody that owns a part of the team, that has
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: skin in the game just like you do, who's local
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: here in Nashville, who has experience with the ball club,
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: if that is the path, that's an action. I'm not
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: telling you that she needs to make the correct action
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: because nobody truly knows what the.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Correct action is.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: I had a talk with an athletic director about this
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: when it came to hiring a football coach. And I said,
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: you're never going to be able to know every football
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: coach in the country.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: It is impossible to.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: Know each offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: And head coach.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: And it's impossible to know how the guy at Western
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: Lafayette State would do it. He was the head coach
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: at Ohio State. It's just impossible to know if you
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: don't know those people. So you build a network of
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: people over time, and you usually do pick from your network,
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: or your network sets it up for you so that
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: you can find somebody else. At some point, Amy's got
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: to use a network that she has, and she has
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: several networks. She owns an NFL team, so there are
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: tons of people that she knows that can connect her with.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: But again, this requires action. She has to do something.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: something she doesn't have to fire everybody she doesn't she
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: just has to do something and i guess my biggest
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: fear as a titan fan by the way is that
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: she is going to do nothing i feel like the
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: backlash is so strong right now with you know really
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: led by the oh and five play coupled with another
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: reorganization and the media that I think has been, and
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: I'll just speak for myself, but I feel like a
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: lot of other people are acting similar. I feel like
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: a lot of us in the media feel like they've
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: been lied to by Burke Nihill over the years.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: And now it's all coming out.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Well, here's the point of it. You're, you're going deeper
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: with it because you pulled your credential. Burke pulled it.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, again, I think it's pretty clear. Like he
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: oversees all of these decisions. He certainly knew that was coming. Um,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: To me, it's about the fact that I know where
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: this is headed. It's going to happen again next year.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: They'll fire Sala in the middle of next year based
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: on the way the path of this is going because
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: they fired Callahan in week six of his second year.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Borgonzi's in year two. They fired Carthon after year two. Again,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Callahan was in year two. There are consequences after year
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: two by Amy Strunk, except for the Callahan deal, which was,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was Amy, but That was also just
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a deal that football didn't want to make. You could
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: tell that Borgonzi sat up there that day. He was
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: mute because he didn't have the voice to say it.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: They had sent Brinker down there, and they was Burke.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I just point to they continue to fire people at
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: a very high rate and very quick rate. They just
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: do it from the business side, the non-football side. They've
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: been cleaning out the garage. And they've been doing it
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: through the non-football side. The focus has been there. And
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: that's what's out of whack. And she has always done something.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: She's been criticized for being impatient. In this case, the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: person that has been there the longest has been insulated
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: based on the model that he put in place, including
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the one where Brinker couldn't even describe what his job was.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Now no one's there. And now's the time to make
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a move. I think you clean house. I know you...
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: You get a lot of heat for always saying, like,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: a hot seat, they're cleaned out. They have to clean house.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Don't just put someone in the present spot. Wipe them out.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Because otherwise, Robert Sulla's 20-41, Jared. You know this. Start
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the season next year 0-4. He's got to go. and
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: then you're going through this all over again. Borgonzi hasn't shown.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: It's practically every choice on a player is practically him
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what I would do is at the end of
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: the year, I'd fire everybody. I'd fire Burke right now.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: And then I would fire everybody else at the end
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: of the year. And then I would hire a team president.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: And I would let the team president hire the general manager.
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: The general manager would hire the coach. And there would
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: be kind of a traditional model in place. Kind of
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: similar to when she did clean house. Steve Underwood became
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: the president. Ken Wisenhunt, gone. Rustin Webster, gone. John Robinson, in.
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: Mike Malarkey, in. Later Mike Vrabel, in. And I think
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: I would try to go back to that formula again.
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: But for some reason, to your point, it just feels
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: like a repetitive cycle where Amy gives one person a
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: year of grace and then fires the next person, and
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: that does need to stop.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what? Right now, you can tell, right?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: You've got Sala. Sala looks like he is just so
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: drained from the energy he had in the office. Well,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: he's a terrible coach. He knows the death march is on,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: and he's Mike McCoy.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: Maybe. I think Salah is a pretty terrible coach. But
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: I'm saying.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Even if he's retained, he's fired next year. We knew
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Callahan was going to get fired the year after, but
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: that's where we're headed. I think that's where I'm really
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: just over it, is the repetitive nature of what's going
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: to carry the next year. You lose that season, then
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: it carries on, and you restart. I'm tired of the cycle.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: The fans are tired of being told that they're in
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: it to win championships. Because it's been everything but that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: And it continues to get worse. I didn't think it
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: would be this bad. And now you have the news
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: that it gets worse. With another decision. It's just pathetic.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Because tomorrow who knows what happens.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think when it comes to Amy Adams shrunk
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: in the Titans, and I hate saying this because I
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: am a Titan fan, but when they lose on Sundays
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: and they get embarrassed like they did last week against
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: the Texans, it doesn't hurt me. Because I'm of the
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: belief that if this thing goes 0-17, and they really might,
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: if this thing goes 0-17, then everybody's gone. You know,
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: at that point, there is no justification for bringing Robert
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: Sala back, even though it was just one season. Or
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: there's no justification for holding out hope that Cam Ward
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: can become worthy of the number one pick. Or that
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: Mike Borgonzi, there's no argument that he's doing a good
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: job when he inherited the 3-14 team. and then went
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: 3-14 and then goes 0-17. So I truly believe that
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: as a Titan fan, I worry. I just don't think
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: that Salah's a good enough coach for this to happen,
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: but I kind of worry about them finding a way
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: to win five or six games and that being a
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: justification for keeping somebody or everybody. And again, I don't
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: think that's going to happen with Cam Ward at quarterback
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: and Salah as the coach, but that would be my
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: big fear. I think that what you're looking for, you're
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: going to get. this offseason because I think it's going
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: to be so bad you cannot retain a coach moving
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: into a new stadium if you go 0-17 or 1-60
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: you cannot do it and she.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Won't and the record is solid record I'm with you
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: it's not good it's not the standard but he already
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: knows at 20 and 41 he can add an 0-17
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: record to that Like, he's trying to revamp and prove
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: that he wasn't the coach in New York, that he
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: had the second opportunity. And by week six, he's talking
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: about the next 12 weeks as a tryout period. I mean,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that is– only the Titans could pull that off with
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: their new head coach.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: I've never seen a head coach– Bring up joint practices. Yes, exactly.
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: Bring up joint practices from August as a good thing.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: And then basically call the remaining 12 games of the season.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: The preseason.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: Because that's what, when you say, we want to see
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: who's going to be on this team, that's the preseason.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: That's what you do in the preseason. And Robert Sala
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: is treating the rest of the season like that? I mean,
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: that just shows you how incompetent this franchise is. And
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: that's why, again, I think Robert Sala is a terrible
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: head coach. I think he's a terrible messenger. I think
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: he is terrible when it comes to running a coaching staff.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: And I am convinced this team's ceilings, is two wins
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: this year, and that will be good enough to get
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: everybody fired.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, but I agree. But I think he's convinced with
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Trubisky he can get five wins, and he can't make
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the move. I think that's what I see on his face.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he's going to do this this year.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: He's talking about the next 12 weeks because he knows
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: what he's in store for with Cam Ward at quarterback.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: That's the way I see it. He can keep his
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: job with Trubisky because he can get to your five wins.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think he could do that with Cam.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: I don't think Salah's that smart. I don't think Salah's
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: smart enough to sit there and say, you know, if
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: I put Trubisky in there, everybody that we promised that
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: we were going to give Cam the season to is
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: going to be mad, but we might win five or
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: six games and keep our job.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's being told he can't make the call.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: Then why would he take the job to be coached?
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: Then you're not the coach anymore.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Because it's the offer he had. Right? Like, why would
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Brian Dable take the– because, I mean, he liked Cam Ward. But,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're both trying to prove that they're head
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: coach material. If I want to make a quarterback change,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: it has to be right now because you're 0-5. You're
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the 0-4 game. You've got to
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: make a change because at 0-8, 0-9, it doesn't matter
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: if you change the quarterback.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: Well, and the other part about this, too, is that
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: if you're Robert Sala, if you don't have the authority
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: to change a quarterback, then you need to quit over that.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: You need to say, hey, I'm changing the quarterback, and
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: if they don't let you change the quarterback, then you
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: need them to fire you.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: Because they're not letting you coach.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: You have Dable who's coming in, and everyone's on board
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: with him changing the accuracy and all the stuff on
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. And he's the head coach of the offense.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: You're pairing these things together. Oh, and by the way,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: we're going to make sure this is Cam's rookie year.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: We're redoing the rookie year. Like, that's been the theme
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: of the– and no one really pushed back on that
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: because everyone was on board with them. Based on the
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: shit show that we saw from the previous staff, it
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: turns out it's the same– it feels like the same
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: staff all over again.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: It does. This is, though, where, again, I talk about
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: action and leadership.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: If you're Robert Sala and you go 2-15, you're fired.
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, maybe somehow, someway you don't get fired, but
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: you're fired. Going into a new stadium– If you get
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: fired after what happened with the Jets, you go 2-15
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: with the Titans, you're never getting a head coaching job again.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: So the only thing that Robert Sala can do, in
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: my opinion, for self-preservation, is to switch the quarterback. And
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: even if they won't let him switch the quarterback, then...
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: I would say if I was in Salah's position, you
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: have to fire me. Because you hired me to be
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: the coach, and as the coach, I want to play
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: the other quarterback. And if they say, well, we don't
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: want you to do that, well, then you have to
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: fire me, and then you have to explain that you
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: fired me because.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: You wouldn't let me change a quarterback.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: Because that's the only hope Salah has for his reputation
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: of ever getting a job ever again.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Okay. I agree, which is why the change should have
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: already been made. One final thing, and I want to
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: get to the news today about the exec, because I'm
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: more fascinated by this. Mike Borgonzi has the control of
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Salah's staff. How far away are we from Mike Borgonzi
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: firing Brian Dable?
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: You know, I think that Brian Dable was a Mike
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: Borgonzi hire. I don't think Brian Dable's the problem.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: I don't even think Brian Dable is on the list
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: of problems.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I know. Maybe they just ride it out and fire
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: everybody at the end.
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: I don't think Brian Dable is a good fit for
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: Cam Ward because Brian Dable's offense is made for Phil Simms.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: And Cam Ward is not Phil Simms.
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: This is the Earhart Perkins offense that Charlie Weiss ran,
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: that Bill Parcells ran, that Bill Belichick's coordinators ran. This
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: is that offense. And that's why it fits a quarterback well.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: who is accurate, especially short. That's why a guy like
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: Tua can fit into that offense and play. That's why
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: a guy like Mac Jones can fit into that offense
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: and play. This is not the offense for Cam Ward.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: Not that I think there is an offense for Cam Ward,
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: because I don't think Cam Ward's good enough or has
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: the talent to be good enough. But again, Brian Dable, that's...
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: That's like when Mike Munchak fired Chris Palmer.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: Big deal.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: It didn't turn Jake Locker into a good quarterback. And
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: firing Brian Dable is not going.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: To save Cam Moore.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: It was action, Jared. They had action. They made a move.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: They tried something. This group hasn't tried anything. Nothing. They've
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: been benching another player. I mean, I guess they made
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: a move at linebacker. But they haven't tried anything. It's
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the most bizarre thing with the organization. Hey, Tell me
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: about this lawsuit that's going on with this new executive
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: that Berkney Hill's hiring that the Titans don't even want
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: to admit they're hiring.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: So Jeremy Walls was, when I woke up this morning
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: and I knew that Jeremy Walls was going to be
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: the next chief business officer of the Tennessee Titans, I
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: was under the impression that he was still technically the
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: COO of the Arizona Cardinals. It sounds like he stepped
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: down in August when they announced that he would step
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: down at the end of the year, that he actually
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: stepped down in August. Jeremy Walls is currently a defendant,
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: along with Michael Bidwell, who's the owner of the Arizona
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: Cardinals and technically the president and CEO of the Cardinals,
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: from two former staffers, one of whom was an assistant
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: to Walls. The other was an assistant coach for the
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: Arizona Cardinals that are both alleging racism and unfair practices.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: I have no idea if these allegations are true or not.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: The federal court kicked this to the NFL for arbitration.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: We've seen that before. The NFL tried to kick the
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: John Gruden lawsuit to arbitration. I believe the NFL tried
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: to kick the Brian Flores lawsuit to arbitration. The NFL's
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: game plan with an employee is to get that thing
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: sent to arbitration. And this did work. So I don't
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: know what the end results are going to be. If
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: the Titans love Jeremy Walls so much... then they should
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: have waited for him to be fully exonerated and then
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: hired him. You cannot, in my opinion, hire a executive
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: who is currently facing litigation for racism.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is, you know, allegations, right, right.
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, what are you going to have him be
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: the guy that paints in racism in the end zone?
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Well, and not knowing the result of all this, right? Like, uh,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Only the Titans would do this, Jared, at this point.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: I've told people when it comes to the Titans, they're
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: far too many times over the last year. I mean,
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: let's not even isolate it to five years. Let's just
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: put it right to one year. Over the last year,
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: where I thought they would never do that, they can't
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: be that stupid.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: And then they go out and do it.
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: So nothing at this point surprises me with the Tennessee Titans.
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: It's not that they can't be that stupid to do it,
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: because every time I think they can't be that stupid,
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: they prove me wrong.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: And this is another example of that.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: They just hired a guy with these types of allegations.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Does that sound like ace business? on behalf of the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: front office in Tennessee? Does it show transformational judgment, that
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: they're a transformational industry? Absolutely not. They're saying that this
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: hire hasn't been made because they haven't had the open
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: search yet. They haven't had all the people come through
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: and make it like it's a fair search.
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: I love how some people on social media.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: They haven't hired the guy.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: So the Titans' response was, we haven't made a decision
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: with our chief business officer.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Tell your example.
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: But, I mean, to me, first of all, the Titans
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: have already done that to me. I had the report.
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: You were involved as a candidate of the play-by-play job
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: with the Titans. And when I called you, you were like, hey,
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: I didn't get the job. But that's all I can
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: tell you.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: And you had called me right after I'd heard from Burke, honestly.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: And I didn't know... You know, I didn't know how
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: to react to it because I didn't know if the
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: other guy or the other candidate other than, you know,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Taylor had been told. Right? So I didn't know how
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: to answer the question.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: I called the Titans.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: And this was when I was still a credentialed media
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: member and when, again, I gave them, you know, journalistic. Yeah,
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: you know, like journalistic integrity, which they said I didn't have.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: But this is, you know, that was one of my...
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: Journalistic principles. I called the Titans. I said, hey, I
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: have a report that Taylor Zarger is going to be
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: the next play-by-play guy. And the team was like, well,
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's a candidate, but we haven't decided. And
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: that basically is what Kate Garrow's statement to Paul Kaharski
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: today sounded a lot like. And by the way, it
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: was Kate Garrow that I called when it came to
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: that play-by-play story.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: My thing is this, though.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: People are saying, oh, I bet the Titans used this
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: fake news to be able to find out who the
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: mole feeding information to Jared Stillman is. And my response
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: to that would be, okay, first of all, I have
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: multiple sources. Secondly, other people in the media also had
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: this story. A to Z Sports had this story. Kaharski
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: tweeted out that he was close on it and just
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: couldn't get the confirmation for it. I mean, if the
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: Titans don't hire this guy, it will be because of
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: the backlash from people that are saying, why is our
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: football team hiring a guy who is currently facing litigation?
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: That will be the only reason why. And then I
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: will laugh and say that, wow, I just got somebody
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: bounce as an executive from an NFL.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: I didn't know I could do that.
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: But this idea that they haven't hired the guy, if
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: the team wasn't going to hire the guy, the team
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: would say that that was categorically false.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: They did not say that today.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: They hired Ramon Foster, and that was done. And they
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: tried to wait until the draft. This is what they do.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: They wait and try to plan unveilings and stuff. But
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: it always gets out. It never works out that way. Hey,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: final thing. I'm sure you've thought about this. What is
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the number one question you will be turning to find?
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: In a response in that survey from fans, what must
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: you see immediately?
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: I want to see how much Burke Nihill's Q rating
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: has changed in the last year. They asked what your
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: thoughts of Burke Nihill this year was compared to your
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: thoughts of Burke Nihill last year.
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: I think we.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Know the answer.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: What's that?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I think we know the answer. Burke was booed whenever
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: they inducted Mike to the Ring of Honor.
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: Yes, but I almost feel like those boos were more
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: directed at Amy, who was standing on the field.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Burke Nihill. Boo.
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: I don't think most people knew who Burke Nihill was
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: a year ago. I think now Burke has kind of
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: come to the forefront because of his own doing. But
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: I don't think Amy Adam Strunk's Q rating has changed
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: much in the last year. It has completely plummeted over
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: the last six years since Burke took over as CEO.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I would argue, though, Jared, they did know who Burke
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Nihill was. You're playing clips of him talking about... Callahan
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: being the savior, or talk about Rand or whoever it was.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: It was Callahan.
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I don't think until recently, I don't think
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: Titan fans felt one way or another about Burke Nihill.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: And I think that the thing that I've noticed is just.
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: How strong the media's push against Burke Nihill has been.
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, again, I have felt lied to on several
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: occasions by Burke Nihill. I have watched him fire people
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: that I know are good at their jobs, people that
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: I know are part.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: Of a winning culture.
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: It's easy to say, you know, they fired John Robinson
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: or they fired Mike Vrabel.
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: I'm not talking about them.
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about Robbie Bourne, the PR director who had
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: been there for 28 years, and they fired for no reason.
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: The equipment manager who had been with them from Houston, who, again,
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: they fired for no reason. You know, again, there were
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: so many people. Anthony Pastrana was a video guy who
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: had been with them for years.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: And here's how they did it, Jared. They fire Rand Carthon,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: and then they fire others underneath that on the same day.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: And so it goes unnoticed that way. Like, Brent Akers
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: was let go that day.
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: And what that tells me when you fire good people
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: that have been there for a long time is it
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: tells me that it's all about you. And I always
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: had that feeling when it came to Burke Nihill that
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: it's always about him. And for me, I had given
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: up on Burke when he fired Robbie Bourne, the PR director.
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: And not that Robbie was feeding anybody information. He was
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: just a true professional.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: He was fantastic for what you want. You're absolutely right.
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: You don't win by getting rid of people like that.
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: And so when I saw that, I knew that Burke
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: was a fraud. And I think the media, each individual
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: person has kind of had their moment where somebody inside
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: the building has told them something like that or they've
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: seen it firsthand for themselves. And so I think the
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: veracity with which the media has pointed a finger at
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: Burke Nihill, I think that's going to make this hard
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: for him to overcome.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Are they going to ban all of us?
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, only the YouTubers, I guess.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Maybe. Maybe. I think their solution is they've been trying
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: to pay media members to be a part of their...
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: do certain things for the Titans website and stuff. They're
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: doing that with the players. It's just not... The whole model,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: as you know, it's pathetic. It really is. I'll be
• 48:05
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• 48:13
  Speaker 1: stilly bomb to drop with more news.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm not Adam Schefter.
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: I'm not looking for more news, but if it comes
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: my way, I will certainly break it as I have done,
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: even without a credential over the last six weeks.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: You're the new Jim Wyatt in town. I say that
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: with all credit to Jim, but like, Well done, man.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Keep the streak going. Thank you for the time, bro,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: and I'll be watching later today.
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: Sounds good. Thank you, Hutton.
• 48:41
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• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Hope things are well.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: Always fun catching up.
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: I'm hoping that I get my voucher for free McDonald's
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: breakfast if you're going to get me out of bed
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: this early on the West Coast. But when I get
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: the opportunity to see your smiling face, Hutton, how could
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: I possibly say no? And I think we're blessed to
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: be able to break down games without Withrow intervening with
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: useless opinions.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Dude, so I thought you were still going to bed.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't think this was a wake-up call for you.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: My bad. My bad. If we hit the rewind button
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: 20 years ago, it would have been the case.
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: When Clay was doing his radio show on Fox, he
• 50:21
  Speaker 7: could catch me on the tail end of a bender. Now,
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: if I'm up past 10 o'clock, I start to get
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: a little nervous. I need at least my six hours
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: of sleep. The brain doesn't quite function at 4 a.m.
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: with that same level of clarity it did when we
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: first started hanging out in my mid-20s.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Todd, on a scale of 1-10 on a typical college
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: football weekend, how nervous do you get when it comes
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: to a bet you've made? Is it every week? Is
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: it some weeks? How do you sit and watch these games?
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: You know, honestly, I used to get real nervous back
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: in the day.
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: When I was first getting started as a better, you know,
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: I would kind of be an emotional train wreck. It
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: was riding a roller coaster. If the day started out well,
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: I'd have the emotional highs. If the day started to
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: tail off, I'd be down in the dumps. But now,
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: I kind of come in with a level of detachment
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: that I think a lot of our viewers will look
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: at and laugh and go, no, that's not really possible.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: But it really is.
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, to be in the trenches every single day,
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: handicapping the three main sports that I do in.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: The NHL, the NFL, and college football.
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: Like if I get too high off of wins or
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: too low off of losses, things can compound and you
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: start to have problematic scenarios develop. So for me, I
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: try and maintain a level, even keel. And I think
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: the one that really appreciates it hot is my wife
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: more than anything else. I give myself about three to
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: five minutes to get it off my chest and to
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: kind of vent a little bit, use the Seinfeld serenity now,
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: and then it's boom, it's onto the next bet.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: And yeah, you treat it like numbers on a spreadsheet
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: for better or worse.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I'd give her my best if you don't mind. Give
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: us your best pick. Todd Furman's lock. I'm going to
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: give you our parlay in just a moment that Withrow
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and I and JT did yesterday. But I want to
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: get your take on one play I should make immediately.
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: So a game that I like quite a bit, you know,
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: let's do a little bit of big game hunting. What
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: fun would it be if we tried to go deep
• 52:06
  Speaker 7: into the Mountain West or the Pac-12 to try and
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: find a game? But I look at Ohio State, Indiana,
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: and I think this total is a touch aggressive given
• 52:12
  Speaker 7: what we've seen from Josh Hoover and Indiana offense that still,
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: in my opinion, is struggling to find its footing. Hoover
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: isn't Fernando Mendoza. And look, I was wrong in my
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: assessment of him last year at TCU. I thought if
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: he was in a better spot, he would start to
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: be able to scratch the surface and make a legitimate
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: case to be a first-round draft pick. Given what we've seen,
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: at least through a handful of games in Bloomington, hasn't
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: been the case. So much of Ohio State's offense is
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: predicated on the ground game. And if you take away
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: that big explosive play they had against Indiana in fourth
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: and one, you know, how are we feeling about this
• 52:42
  Speaker 7: Indiana team if they're coming in on a one game
• 52:44
  Speaker 7: losing streak instead of being able to snatch victory from
• 52:47
  Speaker 7: the jaws of defeat? And on the other side for
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: Ohio State, you know, this is an offense that doesn't
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: have that same level of proven depth of wide receiver
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: that we've seen in the past. There is not a
• 52:56
  Speaker 7: de facto number two in Brandon Innes or Chris Henry Jr.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Just yet to rival Jeremiah Smith.
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: So if there's one coach that I have confidence in
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: in the Big Ten that can at least force you
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: to play somewhat left-handed in, slowing down Jeremiah Smith, it
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: may take 11 defenders.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: It's Kirk Cignetti.
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: So if Ohio State has to do things differently, they
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: don't have the explosives in the passing game, I get
• 53:16
  Speaker 7: the feeling it's the first team to 24 that gets
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: a win. So I'll go under the total right now
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: at Hard Rock Bet sitting at 51.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, so how much do you follow true trends? If
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: a team's three straight wins hitting the under, coming in
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: against a team that's 2-1 or 1-2, are you following that,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: or am I a dumbass for actually following it?
• 53:35
  Speaker 7: Not so much in terms of totals, but I do
• 53:37
  Speaker 7: think there is a little bit of validity when you're
• 53:39
  Speaker 7: looking at teams that have started the year, say, 5-0
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: or 6-0 against the number. Or on the flip side
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: of things, teams that have really struggled. I'm not saying
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: it's something that you blindly bet into or you blindly fade.
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: But what you can take away from those kind of
• 53:51
  Speaker 7: scenarios is that.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Team A may be overvalued. Team B may be undervalued.
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: And eventually, if we believe that the betting market is
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: truly efficient, it's going to catch up. So, for example,
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: a team like Oregon State, who's done nothing but cover
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: numbers and done so by the gaudiest of margins all
• 54:07
  Speaker 7: season long. Somewhere along the way, you're going to be
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: forced to pay a premium. This week against Washington State,
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: that remains to be seen. But I can tell you
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: one thing, Hutton, that looking at Oregon State after a
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: 66-14 win last week against San Diego State, laying four
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: and a half points more against Washington State, who I
• 54:23
  Speaker 7: power rate better than the Aztecs. Again, one illustration, but
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: you're probably paying a premium to back teams that do
• 54:30
  Speaker 7: nothing but line people's pockets week in, week out throughout
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: the fall.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Okay. Again, like Chad and I have discussed, we always
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: play our parlay. We'll combine some things. We try to
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: get creative. And then our record sucks. So we're like,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: we should just take the minus 135 and try to
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: bet the obvious. But we end up trying to play
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: it up a little bit and play it down. I
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm trying to be better this year. I'm
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: not playing too many parlays. They suck me in on these.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: And so we do.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: This each week.
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: They're the temptress trying to beckon you into the rocky shores.
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: You think, you know, if I can win one game,
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: how much harder is it to win two? And if
• 55:08
  Speaker 7: I can win two, how much harder is it to
• 55:10
  Speaker 7: win three? And let's hope our partners at Hard Rock
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: Bet aren't listening right now. But look, Parleys for me
• 55:17
  Speaker 7: are not a part of my day-to-day. Well, I tinker
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: every now and again if I think there's a level
• 55:21
  Speaker 7: of correlation or if I want to play two or
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: three money line underdogs and say a college football Saturday,
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: no doubt. But they are such a small percentage of
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: what I'm doing for the majority of my bets that
• 55:31
  Speaker 7: are largely predicated around sides and totals. Of course, with
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: a smattering of futures, whether they be win totals, odds
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: to win, all that kind of stuff.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, so with all that being said, just initial thoughts
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: on this parlay. Every Wednesday, we go for the bundle,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: is what we call it. And we combine three individual
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: picks into one. We have the Hard Rock bet going
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: for the bundle from yesterday. I took Utah minus 14.5
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: against Colorado. And I said, why? Because they're playing Colorado.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Do you like that pick initially? No.
• 56:03
  Speaker 7: So my number on the game is kind of right
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: in line with market. I make Utah right around a
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: two touchdown favorite. So I don't see a ton of
• 56:09
  Speaker 7: opportunity and upside there. I will say with Utah, though,
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: they were rather fortunate to get outside the number last
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: week against Kansas, a 41-24 final. We'll see if they
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: can replicate it. But the one thing I do believe
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: you have going for you is that if Utah is
• 56:22
  Speaker 7: able to get out to a fast start, I just
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: don't think Colorado has the firepower to get back in
• 56:27
  Speaker 7: the game. And while their final score last time we
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: saw them, against Texas Tech was rather misleading. I would
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: be much more comfortable making a case for Utah to
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: run away and hide than for Colorado to keep this
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: game competitive for four quarters.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Chad brings Florida plus 10.5 against Texas.
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: So interesting development here. We are still not sure who
• 56:46
  Speaker 7: will be starting under center for the Florida Gators. Aaron
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: Filo showing up with a questionable designation on Wednesday. We'll
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: see if he is the man taking snaps there. But
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: I think for Florida, look, this is a team that
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: a lot of people were extremely high on after that
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: dominating win against Ole Miss. They go on the road
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: against Missouri. Jaden Baugh gets bottled up. And you think, okay,
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: South Carolina is going to be the perfect cure-all. They're
• 57:08
  Speaker 7: going to handle things in their own building at the swamp.
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: And sure enough, South Carolina wins. They came out right
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: as a double digit dog. I can understand where Withrow
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: is coming from. I mean, laying double digits with this
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: Texas offense right now is kind of a perilous proposition.
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: But at the same time, if Texas sells out, stops
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: the run, I'm just not sure Florida has enough in
• 57:25
  Speaker 7: the passing game. So I'd actually lean the other way
• 57:28
  Speaker 7: from Chad on this particular game. Number did open a
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: shade shorter in that nine and a half range. and
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: immediately got bet up. But I can see a scenario
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: where Texas finally looks the part offensively after that disappointing
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: loss against Oklahoma in the Red River Rivalry last week.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I get the feeling JT texted you. I don't know
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: if he's... He.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Did not text me this week.
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: He may or may not have texted me earlier in
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: the season for some.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Of these bets. Hey, that's good. I'm all for this.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: He goes UKOU, Kentucky, Oklahoma, over the number at 43.5.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: I actually can't argue with JT here. It's scary trying
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: to back OU and expecting them to actually look like
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: a living, breathing, functioning offense. But at the same time,
• 58:11
  Speaker 7: I think that if you were to try and take
• 58:13
  Speaker 7: a side-by-side snapshot of what Jon Mateer has done at
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: quarterback this year versus Arch Manning, I think a lot
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: of people would be surprised that Mateer's numbers aren't exactly
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: that bad. Now, Kentucky on the other side, Wolstein has
• 58:24
  Speaker 7: done a phenomenal job getting this team to five wins.
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: Back-to-back one-point victories, electing to go for two on the
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: road in Columbia against South Carolina. And, of course, last
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: week pulling off the outright upset as an eight-and-a-half point
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: dog against LSU. But I have no problem making a
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: slight case to go over. I think Oklahoma is going
• 58:40
  Speaker 7: to find it a little bit easier sledding this week.
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: And I think this Kentucky offense is slightly better than advertised. So,
• 58:46
  Speaker 7: while it's scary and it may never feel truly comfortable,
• 58:49
  Speaker 7: I'd much rather be holding an overticket between OU and
• 58:51
  Speaker 7: Kentucky than I would be looking to go under the total,
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: hoping that these defenses can dominate.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't play this parlay, but you should. You should
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: go for the bundle with us with Hard Rock Bet. Alabama, Tennessee.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: We're going to be there, headed down there tonight. We
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: will then host tomorrow morning out of Gatlinburg, then Knoxville
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: on Friday night for the Dixieland Delight Friday night show
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: on Sport and State. Todd, I've gone back and forth
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: all week on this because there's something about the game
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: at Neyland and the number that keeps rising that I'm waiting.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: to see what happens when we get closer to kickoff.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Where do you come down on– I mean, Bama's playing well.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: They're coming off the loss. Tennessee doesn't have stellar quarterback play,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: but they can certainly at times run the football very
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: well and control the clock. If they don't turn the
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: football over, I like their chances of being a four-quarter game.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: Do you?
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: I mean, the numbers started to balloon at six and
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: a half, seven. I would have had no interest in
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: the underdog. But as we get into that no man's
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: land north of a touchdown, it starts to get slightly
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: more intriguing.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, you mentioned it for Tennessee.
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's not to oversimplify the handicap when you're
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: trying to get involved in Vols games on a weekly basis.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: But are they playing a team where they can run
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: the football? If they are, they're going to have success.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: If they're forced to be one-dimensional, I don't think at
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: this point anyone has confidence in Faison, Brandon, or McIntyre
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: under center, especially given the underwhelming cast of receivers that
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 7: the Vols have at their disposal. Meanwhile, for Alabama, I
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: do wonder a little bit about a hangover from last
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: week's game. Was Georgia the better team in the second half?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: There's no doubt about it. Kirby made the right adjustments,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: but I think Alabama had some legitimate gripes. How you
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: don't call pass interference late in the game Um, when
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 7: KJ Bolden basically runs through an Alabama receiver following play,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: it's a sack takes Alabama out of field goal range.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: And George is able to kind of salt that thing
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 7: away for a field goal victory. But, uh, this is
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: a Bama team that look, if Keelan Russell can get
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: comfortable in the pocket can create some problems, but I
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: do really believe the strength of this Tennessee team is
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 7: on the defensive side. And I'm surprised to see Alabama
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 7: take as much money. So I would lean towards the underdog,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: but I do think if you want to make a
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: case for Tennessee here, you might want to try and look,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: look at the under as well. because I think there's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: a definite correlation that if Tennessee is going to keep
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: this game close, it's because their defense was the best
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: unit on the field come Saturday afternoon.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I just made a note of this. I'm taking the
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: under for the Vols as well. Thank you, Todd. Todd
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Furman with us from at the board at Sporting State. Hey,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: so Missouri, I haven't liked Missouri to start the season,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: and I've been stupid with this. Have you backed the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Tigers the entire time, or have they won you over?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: So, look, I'm going to give Eli Drinkwitz a world
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 7: of credit because I think we were all looking for
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: that signature win that had been absent on Missouri's resume,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: not just this season, but arguably over the last couple
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: of years. You know, they put together a four-quarter performance
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 7: against Florida, win that game 45-17. And Austin Simmons looked
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: the part of the kind of franchise quarterback that I
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 7: think Missouri thought they were getting in that particular spot.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 7: Fast forward a week, and then Missouri's defense is what
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 7: takes the cake. The offense was a little bit underwhelming
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: against A & M. But defensively, they made life miserable
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: for Marcel Reed early on. You know, I think going
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 7: into the fourth quarter, A & M had a grand
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 7: total of two first downs before they put up a
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 7: few points in garbage time late in that contest.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: It made the scoreboard and, more importantly, the box score
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: look a little bit better.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 7: Different task here, and I'm interested to see the storylines there.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 7: I wonder, Hutton, if we make too big a deal
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: about this revenge angle in the portal era. I mean,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 7: does Austin Simmons want to go back and prove that, hey, look,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: I should have been the starting quarterback and I didn't
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 7: want to hand the baton to Trinidad Chambliss? And on
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: the flip side for Ole Miss, do they want to
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: prove that, look, Trinidad's our guy, we're going to make
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 7: life difficult, and we're going to remind everybody why Austin
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 7: Simmons became a bench casualty and eventually had to transfer out?
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: This number has been interesting, though.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: When you look at where it opened at Hard Rock
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 7: Bet at 6.5, kind of ping-ponging right around that secondary
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 7: key number.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: We've seen some books get as low as 5.5.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 7: I think this is an opportunity to kind of sell
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: Missouri stock at the top of the market, but I
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: do think Missouri's got the kind of defense that can travel.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: They've played one mobile quarterback as well in Kamario Taylor.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: fell apart in the fourth quarter there. I think that
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 7: helps them get a little bit more prepared. Wish I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 7: had stronger convictions on this game, but I do think
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: it's one of the more fascinating SEC games of the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 7: entire day to figure out whichever team comes out of
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 7: this with a win, suddenly we're talking about them having
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: a much stronger resume and being truly worthy of playoff considerations.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: And there's something about last week, too, Todd. They're coming
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: off the bye week, Ole Miss, and they go and
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: just slaughter Vandy. I mean, it's over, well over at halftime.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 7: You know, here's the interesting part about that game, though, Hutton.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, watching that thing, what was it, 21-3 or 14-3? And,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 7: you know, Vandy has the ball right about midfield. And
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 7: then it just, like, out of nowhere, I got up.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 7: Filled my water bottle. Came back 15 minutes later. I go, wait,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: what the hell is going on here?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: It was 21-3. Vandy was driving.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 7: I figure it's going to be right around that 10-11
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 7: point margin going to the break. And then it's suddenly 42-3.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 7: And Ole Miss looks like they were the greatest thing
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 7: since sliced bread for weather that never showed up.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: So there is no doubt.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 7: Ole Miss had two weeks to sit on that debacle
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 7: against Florida and want to exercise some demons. This, like
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: I said, I mean, I wish I had a stronger
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: angle to try and get involved, but this is going
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 7: to be one of the more intriguing watches. And I
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: think a true litmus test is all these SEC teams
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 7: go through this nine-game conference gauntlet, you know, to figure
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 7: out who can bring their A game week in, week out,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 7: and maybe more importantly, who can win with their B
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 7: game when they're playing teams in that top half of
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 7: the conference.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Todd, who rebounds? Is it Mississippi State or LSU? Because
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: they're not playing under the lights. This is earlier in
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: the day.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 7: My feeling is you're going to get LSU that's going
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 7: to be able to take advantage of a Mississippi State
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: team that won't have much in the way of answers defensively.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: I think LSU will be able to run the football
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 7: and be all right in that particular regard. My biggest
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 7: concern here is in getting information out of Starkville, not
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: exactly the easiest place to try and find out about
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 7: what's truly going on. is the extent of Kamario Taylor's injuries.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, we heard mixed things last time out, again,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: when they were blown out at home by Alabama, that
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 7: he was dealing with the flu, that it might be
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: turf toe, that it could be, you know, broken foot
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 7: or something along those lines. So for me, it's tough
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 7: to try and assess. The one thing I will say
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 7: is the betting market has had, if that's any indication,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 7: you know, moving from no man's land out to two touchdowns,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 7: even past that 14 to 14 and a half.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: I think it's a lay it or don't play it
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: type game.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 7: Jeff Levy and Mississippi State have been a great story,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 7: but I think it's about to strike midnight for the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: de facto SEC Cinderella.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Hey, you mentioned quarterback there, but Nico out for UCLA.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: What did that do to the overall odds for them
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: and the reflection that they had in Vegas?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it changed the number a little bit.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, look, Nico isn't the elite prospect that Tennessee
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 7: thought he was going to be when they paid him
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 7: all that money to bring him in as kind of
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 7: the face of the organization. But it still is a
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 7: two and a half, three point downgrade for me to Dieffenbach.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 7: I think though UCLA's final score last week, the 17-15
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: win against Oregon, they were flattered. on the scoreboard. I mean,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: when you take the ball away seven times from your
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 7: opponent and you can still only score 17 points, not
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 7: a ringing endorsement. And we mentioned teams that are well
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: rested versus teams that have been kind of going through it.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: You know, Wisconsin comes into this game brimming with confidence.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 7: They had a week to prepare. They have a salty defense,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 7: and I think Colton Joseph will be the better of
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 7: the two quarterbacks. I think Wisconsin's extremely live and really
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 7: believe they win this game outright. UCLA's been one of
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 7: the best stories. Coach Chesney has been a phenomenal hire,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 7: at least from an early return standpoint.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: I think that'll continue.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 7: But I think Wisconsin goes out to Westwood and comes
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 7: away with the outright win.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: I like the Badgers plus the points here.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: So let's hit Notre Dame-BYU. I mean, there's so many
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: great games this week. This has been circled for months,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: this date. And it's living up to the hype, man.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: We've got so many games, we can't keep up with it.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, look, college game day going out to
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 7: Provo for the first time in almost 20 years. This
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 7: is a BYU team that, you know, Kalani Satake probably
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 7: does more with less than any coach in the country.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 7: It was a guy that I thought was going to
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 7: be on the hot seat a couple seasons ago, and
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: he has proven me wrong and then some. Meanwhile, for
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 7: Notre Dame, you know, a lot of people will point
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 7: at their strength of schedule, relatively speaking, but you dig
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: underneath the hood and suddenly the win against Wisconsin week
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 7: one looks a lot better. The fact that they were
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 7: able to obliterate a Purdue team that now has an
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 7: outright win as double digit dog against Illinois and a
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: dominant performance against Minnesota looks a little bit better. So
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 7: I think people are discounting Notre Dame a little bit
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 7: more just because they don't have that signature marquee winner.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 7: They're not playing SEC opponents. They should be healthier on
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 7: the defensive side. I mean, they were down as many
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 7: as four starters last week at Stanford. Didn't slow them down.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 7: Outside of home field advantage, I'm not sure where BYU
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: gets that de facto edge that'll leave you feeling confident
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: backing them as a double-digit dog. You know, my power
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 7: number on this game is north of two touchdowns. If
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: I give BYU a full field goal for home field,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 7: It kind of takes me into no man's land, but
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 7: I am much closer to making a bet on Notre
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 7: Dame thinking that they can put a stamp on their
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 7: season thus far and win this game going away than
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 7: I would be backing Bear Bachmeier and an offensive BYU
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: that I think lacks the kind of elite weapons that
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 7: you need to attack a Notre Dame defense in space.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Are you going Houston over Oklahoma State? Are you playing
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: this game?
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a position on it yet.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 7: I do think this game could have plenty of offense,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 7: and I think Oklahoma State's only path to victory here
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 7: is to try and crank up the tempo, try and
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 7: tire out Houston defensively. But Connor Wegman, dare I say,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 7: making the case to be the best quarterback right now
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: going at any FBS program currently in the state of Texas,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 7: and yes, that does include Arch Manning.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: I think this Houston team is the real deal.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 7: They're more balanced in terms of what they can do offensively,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 7: and more importantly, I think against Oklahoma State, they can
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 7: come up with a stop or two offensively. So I
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 7: like the Cougars here to win and do so by margin.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Are you playing the Michigan-Penn State just to have a
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: reason to watch the game?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 7: You know, look, if this number gets out to 7.5,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 7: I'll begrudgingly want to make a case for Penn State. Defensively,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 7: the Nittany Lions haven't exactly been a brick wall. Michigan,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 7: you know, weak to lick their wounds. What version of
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 7: Bryce Underwood are we going to get? Hutton, if you
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 7: have a read on either of these teams, you are
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 7: a smarter, more sophisticated model builder than me. Because just
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 7: when I think Michigan is going to be fine, they
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 7: were unlucky, in the game against Iowa Bryce Underwood completely
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 7: regresses and they look like they can't do anything offensively
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 7: against Minnesota so if I had to get involved at
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 7: seven and a half with lean Penn State but again
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 7: not a contest that I'm running to bet and talk
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 7: about a game between two historic blue bloods that loses
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: an awful lot of luster given their respective starts of
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 7: the season.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: It's still in the CBS time slot, right? So you've
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: got Timmy B out west doing Nebraska-Oregon, and both teams
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: coming off losses, and you've got Nebraska, though, looking okay.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: They've got to be a different mindset than what Oregon's
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: going through this week.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 7: You would think that Nebraska still knows that they have
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 7: everything in front of them to play for, and if
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 7: they're able to pull off the upset in Eugene, that
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 7: suddenly the loss against Indiana doesn't look as bad because
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 7: if the Huskers were able to rattle off wins. and
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 7: finish the regular season, dare I say, 11-1, 10-2, which,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 7: of course, is a pipe dream. They're very much in
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 7: the discussion of being, you know, playoff eligible of sorts. Meanwhile,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 7: for Oregon, look, I mean, Oregon's season is hanging on
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 7: the brink. I mean, we've seen their odds to win
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 7: the national title completely crater hard rock bet. I mean,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 7: this is a team that even if they beat Nebraska
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 7: on Saturday, their season is going to be completely defined
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 7: by can they go on the road to Columbus and
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: win that game and finish out the season 10-2. We're
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: not sure about DJ Moore if we're ever going to
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 7: see him again under center, but what a disappointing performance
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: from Dylan Rayola, I mean, who looked the part in
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 7: the second half against USC. and then gets himself pulled
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 7: with three of the most miserable quarters of quarterbacking play
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 7: that we have seen in a Power 4 conference all year.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 7: Tough to gauge the mindset, but I do think that
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 7: Nebraska probably a little bit more focused here. And look,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 7: this Oregon team, clearly a disappointment thus far. Strong, strong
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: lean towards the Cornhuskers playing that game at 11 o'clock
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: Eastern time plus a 7.5.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Final one on college, Miami. Can I feel safe just
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: laying the points knowing they're going to crush FSU?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 7: So one thing to watch for here, weather could play
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 7: a role and it doesn't look like it's going to
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 7: be wet, but we could have 40 to 50 mile
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 7: an hour winds. So if that does come to fruition
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: in Coral Gables for the game, or I guess I
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 7: should say Miami Gardens, makes it a little tougher for
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: Miami to kind of find some of those explosives in
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 7: the passing game and run away and hide. But I'd
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 7: be closer to making a case for Miami is right
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 7: around a three touchdown favorite. They should be able to
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 7: run the football and find creative ways to get Malachi
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 7: Tony the ball in space. And when I look at
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 7: Florida State, they're just not built to play from behind.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's largely a quarterback run game with Croma
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: and Ashton Daniels. And if that tandem can't get going,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 7: I just don't see any secondary pass for Florida State.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 7: But if the weather subsides, it's Miami or pass. If
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 7: the weather gets nasty, tough to lay three touchdowns if
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: it's going to be 40 or 50 mile an hour
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: sustained wind gusts from start to finish.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Todd, until I see it to believe it, I should
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: play the under every week for the Titans, right?
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 7: I mean, this offense, I don't understand how anybody watches
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 7: it on a weekly basis and feels comfortable that they're
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: seeing the kind of development from Cam Ward at least
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 7: through the first five games of the season that leads
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 7: you to believe he's going to be the franchise quarterback
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 7: going forward.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: Bigger total because.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 7: Of the Colts' defense, but I think the Tennessee Titans' defense,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 7: dare I say, will be the best of.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: The four units that we'll see.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 7: And hot and famous last words, I actually like the
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 7: Titans plus the seven here. This is a big, big
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 7: number that you're asking the Colts to cover. And while
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: it's disgusting and scary on the surface, I think the
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 7: Titans are live underdogs and might not be surprised if
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 7: they're able to actually win a game for the first
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 7: time all season.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Again, I've got to see it. Last week was the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: time to show up, man.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 7: I mean, look, that's a tougher nut to crack for Houston.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 7: And while I know what their record says at 0-4,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 7: underlying numbers suggest that they were one of the.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Most unlucky teams in the league.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 7: And you look at the opposing offenses that were able
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 7: to shred the Texans at least the first couple weeks,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 7: it was the Bills.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: It was the Bengals.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 7: I mean, the Colts, to a lesser extent, didn't shred them,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 7: but Houston just couldn't close that out.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: And, of course, it was the Dallas Cowboys as well.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: So they finally had a chance to punch down in class.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: I think the Titans were encountering a buzzsaw.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 7: But at the same time, look, Tennessee took very real
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 7: and very substantial professional money on game day. I mean,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 7: that thing came off of the seven and pretty much
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 7: closed six and a half everywhere in the world, including
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 7: Hard Rock Bet.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Thursday Night Football, we've got Seahawks taking on the Broncos. Broncos,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: home dog. Seahawks, strong.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 7: First half under for me. Went under the total at 20.5.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 7: I think both these offenses are struggling. I mean, Bo
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 7: Nix will grab all the headlines, but the underlying numbers
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 7: for Seattle over the last couple weeks, not exactly great.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 7: I know Sam Darnold shredded the Commanders in his first
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 7: game back from injury. But something looks broken for this
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 7: team offensively. I mean, the ground game has been a
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 7: little bit banged up. I mean, down Jadarian Price. We'll
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 7: see when Zach Charbonnier can get back in action. But
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 7: if teams can scheme, at least to a certain extent,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 7: JSN out of the fold, it makes them a lot
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 7: easier to defend. I know the Cowboys, or Cowboys, I
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 7: know the Broncos are going to be down two of
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 7: their best defensive players in Patrick Sertan and Talanoa Hufanga.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 7: who left the game last week against the Chargers. But
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 7: I think on a short week, Denver's defense can do
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 7: enough to generate pressure up front. And on the flip
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 7: side of things, I think this Seahawks defense is going
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 7: to be a very difficult ask for Bo Nix and
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: a Broncos offense looking for an identity. So I'll go
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 7: into the total in the first half at 20.5 and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 7: look for both these coaches to be relatively conservative.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: We have seen a trend, though, the last three weeks.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: The dog is surprised. I mean, at least we see that.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: This would not be a shock.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 7: No, I think if Denver's able to win this game out,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 7: I don't think anybody will really be stunned.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: It's a tough place to play. Unfamiliar surroundings.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, a road team on a Thursday night in
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 7: a non-divisional game, in my opinion, is at such a
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 7: disadvantage because they're not used to scouting a particular opponent.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: So it wouldn't shock me at all.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 7: And while it's a very small sample size so far,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 7: so no one should overreact, You know, primetime underdogs have
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 7: performed exceptionally well in the early going of the season,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 7: at least through the first five weeks.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Hey, all the way up, what's a percentage win over
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: the weekend that you're going for? Like 52%? What are
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: you trying to average to get to where you want
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: to be at the end of the season?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 7: So the full break even, I mean, for people that
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 7: hate math, and I'm glad that Withrow isn't here because
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 7: he'd be sitting here with his calculator and we get
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 7: the Rodney Dangerfield gif.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: We'd see the numbers kind of flying by.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 7: As him trying to figure all that out. 52.4% is
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 7: the break-even number if you assume that you're risking $ 11
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 7: to win.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: $ 10 on all of your bets.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 7: For me, at the end of football season, if I'm
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 7: looking at mainly sides and totals, expect to hit a
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 7: higher percentage of props for lower limits in a less
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 7: liquid market. I'm thrilled if I can finish around 55%.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 7: I know people want to try and sell you a
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 7: bill of goods and go, I want to hit 60
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 7: to 70%. Hutton, if I had 60 or 70% for
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 7: the amount of bets that I'll make in a football
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 7: season over the course of NFL and college, I am
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 7: doing backflips. And while I probably couldn't move into the
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 7: community that Clay Travis lives in down there in Destin,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 7: I'd at least be able to get myself a nice trailer,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 7: a stone's throw away from the beach.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I see all these people on social, like,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: I have 75% big winners. I'm like, I doubt it.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 7: If you're picking 75% over a prolonged sample size, you're
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 7: not posting your picks on social media.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're buying your own island in the Caribbean.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 7: You're sipping frozen drinks with little umbrellas in them.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: So it's a little bit of buyer beware.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 7: If someone's trying to sell you a little bit of
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 7: snake oil, can you hit 60% for a season?
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: Sure. It's rare and it's difficult, but it can be done.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 7: Uh, but if you're looking at this big picture wise,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 7: I mean, if you're hitting 55%, you know, over thousands
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 7: and thousands of trials, that's a pretty good racket. And
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 7: it puts you in rarefied air being in that 1%.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: It's not the 1% that I'm in. You know, I
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 7: leave that to my cohost on the Thursday show for Beth.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: Okay. All right. You've been doing, uh, bet the board
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: for a while, but I mean, we're thrilled to have you, man. It's, uh,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: You know we've got your back from here at Nashville,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: but we've got to get together again on the West Coast.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 7: I mean, look, you guys were out here. I think
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 7: the last time we broke bread together was the Super
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 7: Bowl out here in Vegas.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 7: Whether it's me getting to Nashville, but here's the bottom line.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 7: We can cut this and clip this. You know where
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 7: the College Football National Championship is this year, so this
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 7: is where Clay decides to go into the company card,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 7: pony up, and we're able to do a couple of
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 7: live shows right outside of Legion Stadium and take advantage
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 7: of of the college football epicenter being right out here
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 7: on Las Vegas Boulevard. Since you know if there's one
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 7: city in the country that can rival Nashville in terms
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 7: of putting on a show from Entertainment Value, I'm putting
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 7: Vegas right up there alongside it.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Is it Clay or Laura with the company card?
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 7: I mean, Laura's the one that we have to go
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 7: to to be able to make things happen. That or
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 7: Producer Jacob pulling the strings behind the scenes. I mean,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 7: we can get him to try and have some accounts.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 7: And look, Hutton, I mean, I figure that there's no
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 7: limit on that credit card. So if there's, you know,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 7: let's say, you know, 8 to 10 first class round
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 7: trip tickets on there for all you guys to get
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 7: out here, I'm easy. I can drive down there. I
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 7: can stay at home. So there's not much overhead to me.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 7: It's just a question of getting all you guys out here.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 7: and figuring out what kind of accommodations you win. And
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 7: if you want a presidential suite at the Wynn, or
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 7: if you're looking to stay at the Oyo, unfortunately, Hard
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 7: Rock won't be open on Las Vegas Boulevard. Otherwise, that'd
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 7: be way too easy for us.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: We'll just send you a car. You don't have to drive.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: There we go. Perfect. My kind of team. Send me
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: a nice black car. We'll go there.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 7: I don't have to deal with traffic on the Strip.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 7: I am more than happy to kind of rubber stamp
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 7: that proposition.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Hey, good to see you, man. Thank you for the advice.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I wrote down the... the ones that you are strong on.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 7: Is that the same piece of paper, though, that you
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: were doing the reads to start the segment, or do
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 7: you keep two separate piles so you have a little
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 7: bit of organization?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: Here's the read. It is like treads. It's kindling now
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: for a fire. I wouldn't have a forest fire over
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: here with all this.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 7: We'll step it up. We'll send you a couple index cards.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 7: They'll be in your box just in time for the holidays.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to get my stuff together over here
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: with all the ads. All of Clay's companies. That's where
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: we are. Good to see you, Todd. Todd Furman, Bet
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: the Board. Check out the podcast, sportandstate.com. And all of
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: his great work on social media, he crushes it, 55%.
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• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: there's even Elk River. What are you going with today?
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going with King Mountain this morning here at the beach,
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  Speaker 1: and I love it, Hutton. And I love that you
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  Speaker 1: some good. CrockettCoffee.com. That's Crockett, C-R-O-C-K-E-T-T-Coffee.com. Hutton, thrilled to be
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: with you here at the Gulf of America this morning.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: And I experienced one of the more American things I
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: can ever remember yesterday by watching the Blue Angels perform.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: How was that, man? Give me your review. I've never
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: seen them. Well, so the base here in Pensacola is
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: closed down with the effects of the hurricane. So we
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: couldn't go on base and do the whole museum, Naval
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Aviation Museum and everything else that went with it. So
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: I watched from a Walmart parking lot with a ton
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: more people. The parking lot was packed. The Target across
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: the street parking lot was packed. I went with the
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Walmart parking lot and watched it. And they do a
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: good job of flying directly over you and you hearing
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: the sound and everything and doing the coordinated stunts, the
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: diamond formation they get into where they're almost touching wings.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: They're so close to each other with four different jets.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: I can imagine doing that. The best way to describe
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: this thing is it was a red, white, and blue
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: middle finger to the rest of the world. And I
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: love when America majors in middle fingers and everyone else.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: And the fact that we can coordinate this and use
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: this military might all together at once and get some
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: of the best pilots in the world to withstand the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: G-forces these pilots have to withstand to go straight up
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: into the air as fast as they do, straight down,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: the barrel rolls, everything else. I've never been a big
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: air show guy, and I know your grandfather's big into
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: aviation and was big into this, but watching this yesterday,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: and I can't wait to come back next year for
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: our kids' fall break and actually go to the museum.
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  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: And get the narration from the extra pilot and everything
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: else you're going to get with the show. It was awesome.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: How did you become a Blue Angel? So, got back home.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: And I would recommend this to everyone. Prime Video has
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  Speaker 1: an hour and a half long documentary called The Blue Angels.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: It's produced by our guy, Glenn Powell. Oh, nice. He's
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: the producer on it. And it is a great documentary
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: that shows you the history of the Blue Angels. It's
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: got an older pilot, how you become one. You have
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: to serve at least 3,000 aeronautic miles or missions in
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  Speaker 1: order to be considered for the Blue Angels. So everyone
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: that's up there on this display team, which it is
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: a show, they have served in combat missions or they
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: have flown for the United States Navy. There's five Navy pilots.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: So naval aviators, think Tygun, right? And there's one Marine
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: pilot that's on there. So- The Marines being a part
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: of the Navy, they come together on this. But they
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: all fly for our country in combat or they're flying
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: stationed somewhere else. They come together in two-year terms to
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: do a Blue Angel, basically stay. And then they go
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: right back to serving our country as pilots, as fighter pilots.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: It's incredible. The work that goes into it, when they
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: show the machine they do to withstand the G-forces, it's insane.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: So highly recommend anybody who's interested in red, white, and
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: blue middle fingers to everyone else, which I am, watch
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: the Blue Angels documentary on Amazon Prime. Chad, just coming in,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: the Titans fans are giving a middle finger to Burke Nihill,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: to the floor continuing to go down to the basement. Yeah.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Don't put the graphic up yet, JT, because I want
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: to set this up. So, Paul Koharski, every single day,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: has been asking for Burke Nihill to comment. The Titans
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: get back to him and eventually say, when he's available,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: we'll let you know. Like, we're going to let you
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: know when he's ready to talk. That because Paul, every
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: single day, was putting out that they were not allowing
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: him to speak to Nihill. And they didn't want that
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: out every day. Well... And credit to Easton Freeze and
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: A to Z Sports. They had a great idea. They
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: just released their survey. I haven't seen the results of
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: this yet, Chad, their big 8,000 response survey. They got
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: comment from Burke Nihill. Now, it's not about anything other
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: than the survey. And this is me saying to Kenneth
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Adams IV, to Bryce Wasserman, to literally anybody that can
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: get to Amy's ear, You've got to do something about
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: the leadership of the Tennessee Titans. Because it's not an
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: A to Z sports. I would imagine this is the
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: only thing on the record that they could get. That's
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: my guess. Because this is BS. This is, again, I'm
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: not ripping A to Z about the survey, but here
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: it is. Let's put that up there. We appreciate any
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: and all feedback. This is Burke Nihill, by the way.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Any and all feedback that our fans take to provide,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: whether it comes to post-game surveys, emails, calls, I mean,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: you can scan through this. Chad, we want to win.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: We want to hear about the experience fans are having,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: both in the stadium and away from it. And what
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: we can do better to earn their trust. Trust that's
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: not given, it's earned. And we know it's our job
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: to keep earning it. And then at the end, build
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: something they can be proud of. Using their voices to
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: guide us as we work to build something they can
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: be proud of. Is this Chad GPT? I mean, what?
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: We hear from him, and that's it. This is the
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: same guy that's going to be speaking at a leadership
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: deal in Murfreesboro. What's going on here? Here it is.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: It's not going to be the first comment from Burke
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: in November, but the leadership beyond the field featuring Burke
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Nihill at a luncheon. Chad, what are we doing? What's
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: going on here? Will he be taking questions? Leadership beyond
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: the field? That would be my question because if I'm
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: Paul Kaharski and others, I'd go ahead and pay for
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: that pass to that convention in Rutherford County and go
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: ahead and start asking some questions about the job he's
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: done with the Tennessee Titans. He's got to do a
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: sit-down with Paul. Paul's been asking every day. That can't
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: be the representation of the response to everything that's been
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: going on, including the hire that isn't the hire yet
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: officially within the front office about someone who's involved in
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: the lawsuit. I can't imagine a scenario where there is
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: someone in charge that feels more disconnected from a city
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: and a fan base than Amy Adam Strunk and Burke
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: Nihill does right now when things are going south. There
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: have been plenty of examples of out-of-touch billionaires, right? Throughout time.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: That just aren't, they're not living in reality. Right, right, yeah.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: But Burke Nihill's role is to be the face of
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: the organization and the mouthpiece of the organization. To lead.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: To lead and be the mouthpiece of the Titans business,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: fan relations operation, stadium, the organization, okay? It's been a travesty. And...
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: I know that he doesn't want to admit that it's
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: been a travesty because then the question is, well, why
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: is it a travesty? Because it's under your watch. But
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: to come out and, as you've said, Hutton, deliver a
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: chat GPT response to this survey where you're getting ripped
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: and the organization's getting ripped. Good job, Ace, for getting
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: that many people to respond to anything and to answer
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: that many questions and to write, what, 3,800 essays? I
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: think he got that people actually wrote out all their
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: thoughts in essay form. Good for him to get that.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: I read the story. I have a hard time reading
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: a story with that many numbers in it. I heard
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: Todd Furman making fun of me about numbers. But when
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: you're showing me graphs and percentages and everything else, I
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: really lose. I'm a story guy. I'm a narrative guy.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: If you give me the written word, I'm going to
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: read through it. I didn't need that survey to tell me,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: based on our finger on the pulse of Titans fans,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: that the Titans fans are angry about the direction of
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: this organization today. And what's going on. But good job
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: by him getting all those responses. And I guess a
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: good job by getting a chat GPT response from Burke Nihill.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: I agree that he should do a sit down with Paul.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: I agree that he should answer a tough question. I
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: also believe that even in that response, that we're going
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: to continue earning your trust. Keep doing what we've been doing.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, dude, you've got to change the wording to
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: that to restore your trust. You have to regain your trust.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: We know that we have a lot of work to
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: do to make you want to be a part of
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: this again. You've got to start saying things like that.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: But again, this is not someone who cares about the fans.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: This is not someone who cares about what we think.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: What he cares about is keeping his job with Amy
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: Adams Trump. This is like a parody. Look at the
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: third sentence. Every response tells us something about what it
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: means to be a Titans fan. And we don't take
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: that for granted. I mean, this is embarrassing. It's embarrassing. And...
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: All of this is snowballing to Ramone Foster is talking
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: about the racial discrimination lawsuit this morning on the Wake
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Up Zone. I mean, everything is awful right now. And
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: he's acting like we're going to keep earning your trust.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: And this is the new floor. Every time I think
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: they've reached it, here we go. If he's going to speak,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: he needs to speak on behalf of all the questions.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: And again, I would think Easton would be trying to
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: get more and did not get anything but that. Chad,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: let's do– we have our Locks of the Week coming
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: up too. Locks of the Week. Well, let me say
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: this too on the whole let's hire someone who's under
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: a lawsuit issue. somewhere else. He shouldn't be allowed to
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: hire anybody. This is what really bothers me right now
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: is we're starting this cycle again. The guy who's been
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: in charge of the place burning to the ground and
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: reaching a point where Paul Kuharski, who for all of
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: his vitriol and Yankee demeanor and everything else that people
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: don't like about him, he's a pretty level-headed guy when
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: it comes to wins and losses and how the NFL works.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: And he stays pretty level on everything. Paul is saying
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: in the 31 years he's covered the team, it's never
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: been worse. It's not even close. From an apathy of
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: the team to the fans to everything that goes into
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: the organization, it is rock bottom. And now you're going
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: to allow the guy that has brought it to rock
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: bottom to to start firing and then replacing other people.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: And I know that Amy Adams Strzok is doing this
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: through him, but he has far too much power right now.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: So regardless if the person is guilty of being a
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: racist or not, which I have no idea based on
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: the lawsuit, it's beside the point that, okay, now you
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: got Jared Stillman popping another story on the Titans. And
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: then this happens, and you look foolish again. So we're
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: going to allow– this guy's making big-time hires in the
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: front office. This is where we're going to go now.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: This is the direction is to continue to empower him.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: If I am a Titan season ticket holder spending money
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: with that team, I don't know how you look that
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: person in the face straight in the eye and say,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: we're doing everything we can. to make this better and
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: to make good decisions. I don't know how you can
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: say that if you're the Titans organization. And Chad, I believe,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: and I was told, that Burke was telling some of
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: those three that were laid off that we were going
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: to be bringing in this guy. So this has all
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: been planned prior to the layoffs. And that the guy
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: would be telling friends of his, he's not retiring from
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals. No, no, no, he's got something else coming up.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: Think about that. This whole thing's been in motion just
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: like every decision is made prematurely, right? It's done, but
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't even confirm the job that's done. What is
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: done is the decision of quarterback for Tennessee. It's going
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: to be George McIntyre. No surprise, right? Based on expectations
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: of where Faison Brandon was. Well, and it's the right
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: decision right now. George McIntyre's got to not turn the
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: ball over three times. That's the takeaway from that game
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: against Arkansas. But, you know, really, when you look at
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: it statistically, and they weren't asking him to do a ton,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: but he did pretty well. I mean, he throws for 247,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: I think. It would have been over 300 yards had
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: Braylon Staley stayed in bounds on one big play, had
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: he caught another couple. He had three or four drops
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: in the game that should have been caught. So I
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: don't think it was all bad for George McIntyre. I
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: also don't leave that Arkansas game thinking, boy, this is
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: the guy who's going to beat Alabama. as a starting quarterback,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: or this is the guy who's going to give you
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: a chance to beat LSU or even go on the
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: road and beat better opponents. But I think when you
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: look at Tennessee's defense and where they are, and where
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: they are is they're one of the best defenses in
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: the SEC. We're halfway through the year. They're one of
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: the best defenses in the country. Xavier Gilliam, as Cole
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: Kublik said, is the best defensive player in America right
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: now through halfway point of the season. He's been unbelievable.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: So that defense should give you a chance. They are
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: your constant for this team. You've got to find somebody
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: who can make some plays through the air because Tennessee's
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: passing game is not good right now. They want to
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: run it, but it's tough to run it when you're
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: so one-dimensional. George McIntyre, a healthy George McIntyre, I think
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: we saw in the Arkansas game, gives Tennessee a better
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: shot right now. I think it is foolish, though, to
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: look at this and not understand that there's some gray
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: areas here about who should be the starter moving forward.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: No doubt. I'm not out on Faison Brandon completely. I
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: want to see him get healthy. I want to see
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: if he looks better from a decision-making standpoint when he's
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: healthier and when he's had a week to prepare. I'm
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: not saying replace George McIntyre yet. I'm just warning ball
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: fans that if you think George McIntyre is the new
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: appointed one of Tennessee football, listen to what Josh Heupel
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: is saying about Faison Brandon and how he didn't bench him.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: He was hurt, and he didn't lose his starting spot.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: He's injured, and we're waiting on him to get healthy.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: Faison Brandon is going to start games again this year.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: At some point, Tennessee needs both of those guys to
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: be healthy and to be available when things go south.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: Because right now with a freshman and a redshirt freshman
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: in this conference, I have no faith that one of
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: those guys is going to finish the season being a
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: great quarterback. They're going to need both of them at
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: different times, and they're going to need to ride the
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: hot hand a little bit, which that's something that Josh
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Heupel is not really comfortable doing. He is a pick
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: a quarterback and stick with him type guy for the
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: most part. Yep. And I don't necessarily disagree with it
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: as long as you're sticking with the game plan that's
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: based around that quarterback. What did we see at A &
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: M back in 2021? Calzada came in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: How did they win that game? They popped a kickoff return.
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  Speaker 1: blocked one. You know, they flipped the field and Calzada
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  Speaker 1: was able to do the he hit his layups. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like Georgia's got to hit his layups. And Tennessee, they
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  Speaker 1: need to win the turnover battle and cash in if
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  Speaker 1: they get one. I think that that's the key with
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  Speaker 1: all of it. We're love. How did how did Clay
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  Speaker 1: bet this game? Has he announced that? He has. I
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  Speaker 1: got his bet. I think he went with the over-under,
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  Speaker 1: under in this game is the way I would play it, probably.
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  Speaker 1: We discussed that. Maybe it's one of our locks. Who knows?
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  Speaker 1: on one of our Hard Rock Locks of the week. Chad,
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  Speaker 1: I feel good about both of ours this week, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm rolling. I'm going to one of the top matchups here.
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, Indiana. I think this is about the defenses.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Indiana has shown me that they are,
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  Speaker 1: like last year's team, is going to put up a
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  Speaker 1: ton of points no matter who they're playing. And I
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  Speaker 1: love Ohio State's defense and what we've seen in certain games.
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  Speaker 1: I think they show up. I think the under is
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  Speaker 1: in play here, 51 and a half. Look, I think
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  Speaker 1: this is a victory. I like it. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: parlay it with yours. And I think this is a
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  Speaker 1: week for unders. I love that pick. We found out
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  Speaker 1: Clay is going under in Tennessee, Alabama. Also, I like
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  Speaker 1: that one if I'm playing it. I also kind of
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: like Alabama to cover in the game, but I think
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  Speaker 1: under is also a good play. I'm not going under
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  Speaker 1: with this one. I'm going to refer to my lock
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  Speaker 1: this week. It's just the ultimate heat check. Oh, here
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  Speaker 1: we go. I'm 14 and one on Friday nights. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know a damn thing about Tulane. Now that
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  Speaker 1: John Sumrall is not their coach. I don't know much
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  Speaker 1: about Memphis after Ryan Silverfield left. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: sit here and lie to our audience and tell you
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  Speaker 1: I've done a ton of research about the rushing attack
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  Speaker 1: versus the front of Memphis or how Memphis is going
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  Speaker 1: to throw it over the top against Tulane. I have
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  Speaker 1: no clue, but I'm going to ride the hot hand
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  Speaker 1: right here. This is like Steph Curry going two feet
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  Speaker 1: further back after shooting three after three after three and
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  Speaker 1: then seeing if he can hit from half court. Friday
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  Speaker 1: night college football has been my sweet spot. Give me Tulane.
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  Speaker 1: I know nothing about them, but they're at home and
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  Speaker 1: they're playing Memphis and they're in a six and a
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  Speaker 1: half point underdog. I thought about taking Green Wave Moneyline
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  Speaker 1: on this.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go Tulane six and a half. They
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  Speaker 1: may win outright, but give me the wave to cover
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  Speaker 1: in this game, Hudson. Ultimate heat check on a Friday
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  Speaker 1: night for me. 14-1 so far in the college football season.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to 15-1 with this game, shall we? And
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  Speaker 1: this is how you go 14-1. You don't overthink it.
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  Speaker 1: You don't overthink it. You go with your gut and
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  Speaker 1: you take the home dog on a Friday. It's got
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  Speaker 1: to be the Friday. You can watch Bet the Board
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  Speaker 1: so Todd Furman can break out his sheets and his
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  Speaker 1: graphs and everything else and show you numbers and where
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: this passing statistic intersects with this over here, and it
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  Speaker 1: gives you a 53% chance. There's a place for you
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  Speaker 1: to consume all that. Bet the Board, great show. Todd
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  Speaker 1: Furman's going to give you that. What I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: give you is my gut feeling on a guy that's
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  Speaker 1: 14-1 on Friday nights by God, and I'm about to
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: go to 15-1 with this one. You know what else
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  Speaker 1: is great about Friday night? Dixieland Delight Friday night. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to be live in Knoxville. Wagon Wheel 815 is
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: our kickoff time for Dixieland Delight Friday night live show
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  Speaker 1: at Wagon Wheel. Chad, you were there with Kelly and
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  Speaker 1: Ariel a couple weeks ago. We're headed back to Wagon
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  Speaker 1: Wheel for the same start time on supportandstate.com. You're going
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  Speaker 1: to love the setup. We started in Oxford and we
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: were just looking at Jacob Lutz and the corner of
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  Speaker 1: a cubbyhole. underneath the stairwell in front of us. This setup,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be on a stage. We're looking out.
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  Speaker 1: Window will be open so people can yell things at
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  Speaker 1: us and say hello as they pass in the street
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  Speaker 1: in the old city. And there's a breeze rolling in.
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  Speaker 1: There's people behind us. We're on a stage. A very,
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  Speaker 1: very cool setup there with Mark Jernigan and Wagon Wheel.
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  Speaker 1: We love it. We're going back. We're going to run
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  Speaker 1: it back this week, Friday night, 7.15 Central Time, 8.15 Eastern.
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  Speaker 1: special guests also. Hey, and also tomorrow morning I'll be
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: hanging with Next Round Live. They're going to be doing
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: some stuff from Gatlinburg. Headed there. We'll be kicking things
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  Speaker 1: off there. I've got Jason Swain coming on the show,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: plus LT, and I believe the entire crew. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to make it official. I think Ryan Brown will join
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  Speaker 1: us as well. Hopefully everyone will swing by. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to be fun, and you can catch all the sport
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  Speaker 1: and state coverage. Chad, last time we were in Oxford
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: together for this game, Tennessee stormed the field. We'll see
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: what happens. I can't wait. I'm jealous you're going to
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: go to Gatlinburg, one of my favorite places. Weather's going
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: to be perfect this weekend. If you're in town, come
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  Speaker 1: find us on Friday night. Say hello. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: be having a ball. And can't wait to connect with
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  Speaker 1: the Next Round Live guys, which, oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: they're about to be starting their show here pretty soon. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: We'll do. We'll catch you in Knoxville. All right. Sounds great.
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