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Hebrews Part 28 - Simply Christ Bible Study · Simply Christ Podcast

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Alrighty, we are ready to get started.
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Welcome to our Monday Night Bible Study webinar where we
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inspect the Word of God and we're going to let it transform
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and direct our lives as it sees fit, not as we do.
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So like always, we're going to have a discussion for an hour on
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in Hebrews here and we would welcome your comments or your
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questions. Last week we had Cam Cameron, I
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You can see everything there. So yeah, tonight we are going to
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start in Hebrews chapter 10 verse one and we're going to
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just look at the few verses in there, some really good
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scripture I believe and get going there.
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So we just got kicked off here, a couple guys did.
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You're all back. So we're good.
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So Dad, would you pray for us as we start?
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Absolutely. Father, we come to you this
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afternoon, evening in the name of Jesus, and we thank you first
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of all today about and for your law that you gave to the Jewish
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people. We're thankful, God, that you
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had them establish the Levitical priesthood and the sacrifices
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and the Tabernacle and all those great, great pictures that we
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can now look back on and learn from.
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But ultimately we thank you much more so that you came and
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fulfilled those things in real time and in real life.
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We thank you, God, that we have been made one with you.
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We've been sanctified, set apart, freed from sin, and made
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to be holy and righteous because of this great work.
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We do pray God this evening as we go through your word that we
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would be homeless in our thoughts that we only.
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Speak of you. We thank you for this
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opportunity. We pray you bless it in Jesus
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name. All righty Hebrews chapter 10
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right here. First one it says for the law
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having a shadow of good things to come and not the very image
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of the things, and never with those sacrifices which they
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offered year by year continually make the commerce thereunto
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perfect. So very good scripture.
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This is saying exactly what it has already been saying leading
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up to this. I would like to read the last
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verse in Chapter 9 that we ended on last week as so Christ was
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once offered to bear the sins of many and unto them that look for
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him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
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And so anyway, this this just goes it I I like it.
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It's actually pretty strong language if you look at it and
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I'll let you go ahead Aaron. But he says stuff in here and he
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will as we go on through this, he says can never make perfect,
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you know, And it's I like it. It's concrete.
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He's sure he's positive that this is right what he is saying.
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So, Eric, go ahead. I always when I'm preaching on
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this, I always give that analogy of, and I gave it on here.
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If, if the sign is at my back and I'm around the corner from
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you, you can see that there is a man standing there.
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You might tell by his figure, his short haircut or the build
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of his body. It's a man, but you'd have no
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idea what man it was, right? It's just a shadow of the real
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thing. And I just think that that's
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that is a great picture because that's what he just said, the
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law having a shadow of good things to come, but not the very
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image of the things. You know, what makes me think
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about is those two that was on the road to Emmaus there.
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And Jesus comes up and joins himself to him after his
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resurrection. And they're walking along and he
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asked him like he doesn't know what's going on.
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They're like, are you new to Jerusalem?
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And and they tell him about Christ and he says old fools and
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slow of heart to believe all that the scriptures say.
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And he starts at Moses and expounds on them all the
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scriptures concerning himself. And they say it did our hearts
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not burn within us? Like in other words, it would be
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if you can picture this, if you're seeing a shadow, which is
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what the law was, it's, it's a, I hate to say it's a blurry
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vision, but it's just not a clear vision, right?
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It's just a casting of something.
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And then if you saw the real thing, which many Jews did,
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right? I mean, many Jews did see it
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when they started seeing the real picture, I think it would
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have been like those two on the road to Emmaus, Their hearts
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burned, right? When Christ is actually saying,
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this was me, this is what I accomplished, this is what I
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did. They are getting that shadow,
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like if you could picture, I know you've seen this, maybe in
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a movie or whatever, something is blurred and then the camera
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zooms back into it and you can see the clear image of it.
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Like he's expounding that clear image to them.
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They, they, they would have been able to make so many more
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connections that I could have made because I'm, I wasn't
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living in that time. I wasn't seeing all those
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sacrifice. I can look back.
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I can take what history says, what this says and make a lot of
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good connections, but to them, it should have been this just
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astounding heart burning thing to realize that he was the
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actual picture that the law was casting forth.
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You know, like that's what I think about when I read that
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verse. You know, it's it's not it was a
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shadow of good things kind of, but not the very image.
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And then as Leon said there, it's it's I've said this already
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in other chapters. He's really like he's hurting
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their feelings for the people that don't see it.
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You know, he's hurting their feelings now because he says can
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never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year
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continually make the comers aren't too perfect.
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Like it. It could not work.
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Just couldn't work. Yeah.
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And that must have been frustrating to them because they
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had spent all these years perfecting this this method.
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Well, and, and I guess I would say that that is the, it's like,
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kind of like the halt in between two opinions.
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You know, like you either see the image clearly now or you
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choose to reject this concept of Christ, right?
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I mean that you're kind of faced with that.
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You know, if he's saying it can't work, it never worked, it
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it won't work, then you are faced with a choice.
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Am I going to believe that Christ is a real image of this?
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Or am I going to go back and say no, that's the real thing right
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there? Yep.
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Hey, man, go ahead, Dad. Good stuff.
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Hey, Yeah. This this past weekend, I was
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preaching at a camp for a church that meets in Niagara Falls near
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about two hours from our place here.
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And it was funny. I was.
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I was using an illustration or not an illustration.
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I quoted Andrew and I actually said in the sermon, I said I do
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this online Bible study and there's this Amish man that a
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former Amish man that was in there and and I wish you could
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all meet him. I would love for you to hear it
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from him directly. He said last week that and I
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wasn't on the study, but I listened to it.
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He said that if I could have a megaphone and blare into every
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denomination, every congregation, everywhere, I
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would use this one word. I would just say once and then I
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went through this last part of Hebrews 9 and it was just, you
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know, once, once, once and it was a really beautiful thing.
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And then wouldn't you have, wouldn't you know it, two young
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couples come to me after and they say, were you talking about
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Andrew Schrock? The one, the one was a, a
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Reticop family and the other was a Lowen family, I believe.
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And they know you from down to Tennessee perhaps.
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And they, they're coming out to your, your camp here shortly.
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So I'm there to grow up, probably.
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Yeah, yeah. So.
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It was pretty neat. But anyway, that's kind of
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besides the point here. But what stood out to me and
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what I tried to point out to them, I on on Thursday night, I
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don't know if this Friday morning I spoke on Hebrews 1 and
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2, the overcoming man and how he's better than Adam and better
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than the angels. And then I did chapters 3:00 and
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4:00. And then in on Friday evening, I
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did a Saturday morning, I did chapters 7 and eight, more or
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less kind of summed up some of those things.
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And then a Sunday morning with the whole church present, which
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the other wasn't, was just part of their church.
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I got into this passage here, chapter 10.
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And so it's kind of neat how fresh it is still on my mind,
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right? But the thing that really stands
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out to me is that people don't recognize, and the Jews maybe
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recognize that more than anyone else, but they were also failing
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to see it, is that God's standard is perfection.
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You know, most people are trying to come to God with the best
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that they have, with sorrow, with sadness, with repentance,
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with confession, with tears and whatever else.
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But what God is after is perfection.
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And if, if the blood offering of the Old Testament Saints never
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made them perfect, then the obvious conclusion would be that
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just being really, really sorry and sad and sorrowful and
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repentant is not sufficient either.
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The the comers unto God must be perfect.
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And I like just by implication, what this what this verse is
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telling us. The law was a shadow, as Aaron
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pointed out very aptly, an image of the things, not the very
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image of the things. And those sacrifices could
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never, never make anyone perfect.
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By implication, he's already starting to lean to the idea,
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which he's going to expound on further in the coming verses,
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that this new covenant does make the comers perfect.
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So there's something really in it to celebrate in our on our
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behalf here, especially in the coming verses.
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You should. Velvet.
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Yeah, so I think it's kind of interesting.
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You know, we discussed last week about that, the Tabernacle and
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the earthly Tabernacle, he says in verse 25, you know, I can't
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leave my height, my my eyes on it.
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He said that it is now I can't see it.
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I just need my eyes on it. Oh, the pattern of things in
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verse 23, it says he called the earthly Tabernacle the pattern
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of things in the heavens. Like compared to the earthly
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Tabernacle where Christ sits at the right hand of the Father
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today he said that that the earthly Tabernacle was just a
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pattern. So now he's going into the law,
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right? So he just, in the previous
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chapter, we went through the Tabernacle, right?
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And the sacrifices, there was just a pattern.
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Now he's going into the law and he says the very thing about the
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law, right? And so if you think about it, he
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was writing this to the Hebrew believers there that I think
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we're mostly Jewish, right? And so he's really like wrecking
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their thinking, right? Because now he's saying this
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law, this Mosaic law, this earthly law was just a shadow
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and this was probably very hard for them.
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To. Swallow, right?
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But think about it like you describing Aaron about the
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shadow. You described that perfectly.
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But think about it. If you can see a shadow of like,
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let's say Leon, you know, you might be able to see that he has
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a beard possibly and and that it it might be a man, but you can't
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really see that it's Leon. But if you see the actual image,
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like you can see a picture of him now, he he looks so much
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better than his shadow, right? And so, and he does.
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I mean, you know, reality, right?
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There's nothing wrong with his shadow.
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No, there isn't, but he looks better than his shadow.
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So it so much better this new covenant or this new Christ is
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going to look like to them and to us then this shadow of the
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law. And so I think that's just so
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cool how he describes that and it's something that we can
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actually grasp in our in our minds right.
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And then, yeah, like he says there that like you describe
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Dan, that he, God commands to be, he wants perfection then.
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And we don't think about that so many times, right?
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I mean, we, we think we can come to God somehow in some way and
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please him in some way with our works and our doings and our
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whatever we're trying to come to God with.
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And he demands perfection. And that is only through Christ
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Jesus so. That's good.
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And you know, as far as like the real thing being better, the
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reason that it's better is that the real image actually has
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emotions. You, you can appreciate him or
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her. You like their temperament,
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their idiosyncrasies, all the things about them.
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And you don't have any of that in the shadow like 1
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dimensional. All you can see is his shape.
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There's no, there's no temperament there.
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There's no nothing else like that.
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So that's why maybe not better looking.
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Some people might be better off with just a shadow.
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I know. I'm kidding.
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I'm kidding. Fine, Andrew.
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Yeah, I was kind of brainstorming too, with that
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word image. I don't know how you guys are
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looking at photos of old, you know, pioneers of America.
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When I see an old wagon and a team of horses and big old giant
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logs that I wonder how in the world they got them logs loaded
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up on that wagon and how in the world them horses pulled that
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load of logs. It just looks impossible.
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The pictures I see of these big huge redwoods, I can fantasize
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and talk about that image that that picture and what it must
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have smelt like and what it felt like.
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But it's actually dead to me though, because I I can just
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imagine. And I'm glad that today we have
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more than an image of something that is good.
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I'm glad that he revealed the mystery.
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I'm glad that the time of reformation has come and he has
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given us the spirit that was within us that cries Alpha
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father. We don't have to just look at a
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picture and go, man, I wish I could go gather SAT back there
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back then when they did with the horses and the sled and, you
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know, just try to feel that old tiny.
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You know, everybody wants to feel like get that experience.
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So that's why we watch old fashioned or how to make things
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to some of the most popular videos now, because people love
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to see how other people do things.
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They just don't want to do it themselves.
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See, but so that's what I was thinking about the image we got.
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We're we got we're beyond the image.
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We the the the real, the old came like we're living it now.
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And the next, the other, the main one.
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I was it really gets my attention.
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Is the word perfect? The law couldn't make anybody
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perfect but that yet that was the requirement.
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And if you were a Jew, listen to that, you're like, you know,
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that's a problem. The law does not make me
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perfect. And and it says year by year.
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So the thought you guys already expounded, Dan, especially
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already expounded on the word perfect.
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So I'm not going to expound too much on that.
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But one thing that I thought about that was eye opening to me
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or just another confirmation was he said year after year, year by
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year. So what is the plan he's making
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is that they had to do this over and over, year by year.
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So for all those people that have a real hard time with the
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idea that Jesus Christ took away our sins past, present and
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future, if he didn't, is it then now month by month in Christ
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like the new? That is not just the image, that
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is what the real deal. Is it worse than the law because
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the law was year by year? Is it now week by week?
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Day by day. Day by day it was.
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Some people say that it's day by day.
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Moment by moment. Moment by moment, you don't
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believe that they're all done. And like some of the Amish guys
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I was talking to a week ago, they they would say that your
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sins are not forgiven until you repent it and confess to each
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one of them. So is there a timer when
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repentance is fulfilled? Like what do you got?
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Like one of them saying things like, who tells you gauges
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whether the time of repentance has attained to the amount that
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it took in order for God to say, OK, I can forgive that person.
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And then let's say six months down the road, you do the same
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sin again. Is the first repentance
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canceled? Are you back under those sins
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again? Because can you prove that that
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was a true repentance and you did the same sin again six
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months later? Like who judges all those
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things? So when people say that they
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believe the gospel, that they believe salvation, that they
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believe that Jesus Christ is what is our way to heaven, and
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then yet they say those things, then someone's lying.
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You're lying about one thing. Either you're lying about your
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idea of believing that it's your responsibility to be forgiven
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each and every time, or you're lying about the idea that Christ
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came to make you right before God.
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You can't believe that salvation is without works through faith
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and that Jesus Christ took all your sins, and also believe that
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it's up to you whether you're going to be forgiven or not.
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It can't be both. If it is up to you to be
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forgiven, then it's not salvation.
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It can't be. You can't know it's it's
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hopeless. So I just love how he says that
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it could not make anyone perfect.
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Then he likes to use that word perfect quite a bit.
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So I think what people get mixed up is like in Second Timothy it
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says I'm going to start in verse chapter 3, verse 14, but
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continue down to things which has learned and has been assured
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of knowing of home that has learned them and that from a
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child. Thou has known the Holy
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Scriptures which are able to make thee wise unto salvation
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through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
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All scriptures given by inspiration of God, and is
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profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
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instruction and righteousness, that the man of God may be
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perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
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So most people would say we know it.
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Quote that and there's many others also the distinction that
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a lot of times we don't make and maybe I'm not good at making
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people think I don't make that distinction.
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I think I do I think I try at least so I thought well we need
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to maybe talk about this here more.
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He does talk about works and how to act and how to live in
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response to have him having made us perfect because both can't be
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true as a work in Christ. Like Christ would be going back
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on his promise. He would be back peddling or
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backtracking or he would be withdrawing from his promise
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when he said that he took away sins and made us perfect in him.
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If he then turns around and say says now you have to be perfect
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in order for this to be true like that, it it wouldn't work.
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God would be lying if he says that he took our and made us
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righteous. So let's look at another one in
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Hebrews 13 it says make you perfect in every good work to do
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his will working in you that which is well pleasing his
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sight, sight through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever
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and ever, Amen. So he's talking about, it has to
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be that he's talking about our actions in response to the
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gospel, because in Hebrews 12/23 it says to the General Assembly
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and Church of the first born, which are written in heaven.
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So that's where we're the people of believers are, and to God,
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the judge of all and to the spirits of just men made
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perfect. So if God made us perfect, then
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us doing his will is not what made us perfect, right?
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It can't be both. I don't know.
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I'm not doing a good job of explaining my thoughts.
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Maybe somebody else can. I'm I'm, I'm trying to say is we
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can't mix up our fruit with that God is asking for he's asking us
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to live according to who he made us, which is perfect.
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His will is that we were become who we are in Christ.
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Yeah. Well, let's not mix that up with
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him having already made his PERT.
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Right. Yeah, Yeah, I'm glad you bring
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that to the table. I think that's a good
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discussion. Aaron, you were.
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Go ahead. I was just going to say it's to
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me. I look at it in a in a very
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simple way. It's like to to do right.
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It's kind of like the parable that Jesus told about, you know,
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when you've he gives the gives that parable about the servant
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and you know, if he's, if he, if his master says, you know, feed
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me and serve me and then you can go.
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Get yours, he says. He Does that master think that
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servant when he's done all that seems to be a great request.
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Does he think that servant, when he's done that and he says no,
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he says, you know, he's, he's done that which was requested of
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him. And he says, and I'm
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paraphrasing, but basically when you've done all that, you should
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do consider yourself an unprofitable servant.
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In other words, I would say in a very simple way, you, you, we
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should all be doing right. Right, exactly.
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But we should all be doing the right thing all the time.
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So we should never argue about whether or not you should do the
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right thing, right? You know what I mean?
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Like there's no argument that there there's no way to to kind
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of argue that, that it's not proper, just and good to try to
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do the right thing all the time. That's what I'm saying.
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I mean, is that to me that maybe that's oversimplified, but it's
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like. Well, he he's even trying to get
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us to do more so than the image could ever bring about.
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Good fruit. You know, the first thing people
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will say, which is I'm finding just more and more ridiculous,
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is when you share the gospel. This is a simple gospel.
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They're like when you share, it can sit inconsistent, like be
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consistent about it. They're like, Oh, well, then you
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can just send somehow in their mindset, which is a law of
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mindset that if the opportunity was there, I would love to just
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go out and do the things that bring forth death.
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Like seriously, you see how ridiculous that is?
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If I could, if I could see that if God just paid for my sins, I
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would go and bring forth death. I would do stuff that would
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bring. I would go destroy my life if I
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would, I would lose my marriage, I would go fornicate and I would
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lose my wife and I would do all these things if I just could get
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away with it if I could, just if if my sins are all covered
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somehow, I just want to go out, send the grace of God as much as
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possible. I'm taking advantage of this
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grace somehow that somehow we then think that that's how we
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think like. I But that's not how it works,
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you know? The love of God's love draws us
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back to Him. You know too.
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But you know, I think in this Dad, it sounds like looks like
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you were going to say something too.
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But and I would just say this the the the one thing that got
26:47
muddy in our background and I think that might be there goes
26:50
those balloons again once strike me every single time.
26:55
But what I was going to say is that got muddied.
26:58
So we're talking about salvation and we're talking about fruit.
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There are two completely different things.
27:04
They they were in our heritage, the way we grew up.
27:07
They were very much talked kind of as the same thing, right?
27:12
I know, yeah. So they were like good works
27:16
equaled salvation, right? We need to be careful to make a
27:20
distinction, which is what the author of Hebrews here is doing.
27:23
He is making sure that we understand.
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He is not talking about fruit here.
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He is talking about being perfect.
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That's right. And so that is that is maybe
27:34
maybe we get buddied too much in in, in comparing the two or
27:38
counting them equal to each other.
27:39
They're not, they're different. They're different.
27:41
Thank you for clarifying that. That's what I that's much
27:44
simpler way of saying what I was trying to say that.
27:46
Thank you for that all. Right.
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I think sometimes, sorry, I'm just going to make a couple
27:52
comments. Sometimes people think that
27:55
because we believe that sin was forgiven once for all, there's
27:58
nothing you need to do about it ever again, that we think that
28:02
our sin is really not that bad because it's all forgiven.
28:06
Every one of them, past, present, future, It's all we
28:09
take sin very seriously. We repent of every single one.
28:13
We try hard to be sorry for every time we sin.
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We don't have that kind of cockiness and and and boldness
28:20
to say all of our sins are forgiven because we take sin
28:23
more seriously. And I would like to submit to
28:25
them and say you do not see sin as serious enough because you
28:30
think that your sorrow or your confession or your repentance is
28:34
sufficient. I don't see anything in more
28:36
blood. Christ was only offered once,
28:39
and you're not going to get him to sacrifice himself again and
28:41
again and again. And So what is it that you
28:44
bring? You could say, well, I bring the
28:46
blood of Jesus again and again and again.
28:48
But it was one time like there it was once, once, once right
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there. There is no second we we have to
28:55
recognize that before the standing of God as we stand in
28:59
His presence, we have to be perfect or we have no chance.
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We cannot be halfway in and out. We cannot be, you know, perfect
29:07
until we need a new confession, or perfect until we sin and that
29:11
we have to quickly keep short accounts.
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Not a single one of us would stand a chance.
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If you think that you do, you don't see sin as serious enough,
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not the other way around. That's it.
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That's what I meant. You know, someday, you know, you
29:24
have to make me teach me how to speak.
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That's that's what I'm saying. Great.
29:29
Good stuff. You did crawling Andrew's head
29:33
and say what he wanted to say there.
29:35
Yeah, good stuff. It's hard to teach an Old Amish
29:39
new tricks. Yeah.
29:44
Oh, goodness. Oh, it's so good.
29:46
Yeah, it is. Cameron says Christ is not the
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minister of sin, which is what Andrew was saying there.
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It's we don't. I mean, everyone says yeah, but
29:54
you could just you just say that's where you can live like
29:56
you want. No, actually, that's not true.
30:00
Trades us. See, that's someone who doesn't
30:03
get the concept of love and compassion and father and son
30:07
and child and being one with someone and unified and in a
30:11
relationship like that would be like, oh, I got this wife that's
30:16
so loyal to me and she would just do anything for me.
30:18
I'm going to go sleep with others because my wife is just
30:21
so faithful. She will never leave me.
30:24
She's stuck to me. She's married to me for life
30:26
until death does part. I'm going to go mess around like
30:30
that's just an idiot you. Know yeah, it's just.
30:32
Makes you wonder where these people even like, where's,
30:37
where's their honor then even you know, or yeah.
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OK, first two for then would they not have ceased to be
30:46
offered because that the worshippers, once purged, should
30:51
have had no more conscience of sense?
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Yeah, he makes a good argument here.
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He's saying if they would have been public, if they would have
31:02
done the job, then we would have stopped.
31:04
We could have stopped. If he actually would have
31:07
cleansed us, we could have stopped.
31:08
But obviously that wasn't the case.
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So, Eric, go ahead. Yeah, I really, I don't, I don't
31:15
know. But I doubt that this concept
31:20
had ever entered their mind like I I would imagine that they
31:26
expected, you know, we we're good till now.
31:30
The the priest has come out and said, you know, God's accepted
31:33
the sacrifice and they just expected, you know, this is
31:36
going to happen again next year. So I doubt that they've even
31:39
considered this concept of, I mean, maybe in his writings, but
31:42
I'm just saying Jew had probably not considered this concept of 1
31:47
sacrifice for sin forever. Like I don't think they've
31:50
considered that concept, but he is making that point.
31:54
I always point out to people that is actually a question,
31:56
right? Like.
31:57
The first. Sentence of chapter 2 or verse 2
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rather is a question. In other words, he's saying,
32:03
wouldn't he have been able to stop if that actually did its
32:06
job? And I told Dan this when he
32:08
interviewed me there and at the Iowa camp, I said, I heard this.
32:13
I didn't read the book, but I heard a guy talk about reading a
32:16
book that somebody had wrote about the church Christ.
32:19
And it was one of the chapters or something was called Drown Me
32:22
in the Baptistry. And the point of it was, and
32:26
this is kind of this is basically the same concept.
32:28
The Jew could have walked away after the Day of Atonement with
32:35
maybe not even got started down the road.
32:37
But you know, when he comes out, he could have had a little
32:40
confidence, right? God has have been atoned for our
32:44
past, but as he's leaving, he's he's stacking up a new record of
32:52
sin, right? I mean, as he's walking down the
32:55
road thinking his thoughts or whatever, he stacked through
32:58
this new account of sin. So he's like I said, I don't
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know. I don't know if they've ever
33:05
thought about it. I feel like this is the
33:06
clearest. He has said it up to.
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This point even in this book, in my opinion, he's asking the
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question, think about it guys, if that sacrifice for sin
33:16
actually would have worked, we would have just stopped like
33:20
Moses would offered the first one and we'd all be good.
33:25
But he's and he's making that point, obviously going to make
33:28
his already made the point, but is going to continue to make
33:31
that point in this chapter that that's why Christ could come in,
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do the thing once and be done and to all your all's points and
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it would last and keep going, keep covering outside of
33:48
anything you do. It just keeps on going, right?
33:52
Very good. Damn.
33:55
Andrew has mentioned several times through this study that
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the author just kind of keeps hammering the same points over
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and over and over again. And I noticed that a lot more so
34:03
when I studied for this weekend because I kind of went back to
34:06
some of the early chapters again.
34:07
And I had just gone through them twice online with you guys then
34:11
in my little WhatsApp group. But the very first 2 verses of
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the whole book. God, who at sundry times and in
34:16
diverse manners speak unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in
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these last days spoken us to by his Son.
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And he says in verse 3 being the brightness of the glory, express
34:25
image of his person. We talked about image here
34:28
already too, how the law came. It kind of gave us a bit of an
34:31
image. But the real image is Christ,
34:34
the express image of his person upholding all things by the word
34:37
of his power when he had by himself purged our sins, sat
34:42
down at the right hand of the majesty on high.
34:45
So the third verse of this book, he already told us this this
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truth that he's now starting to express here in Hebrews chapter
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10. But he also told us again in
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Hebrews 9 verse 9, which was a figure for the time then present
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in which we're both offered gifts and sacrifices could not
35:02
make him perfect that did the service perfect as pertaining to
35:06
the conscience. How much more so the blood of
35:08
Christ purge your conscience from dead works to serve the
35:12
living God. So I just love that he's said it
35:15
over and over and over again, but we need to hear it
35:17
constantly. And just to kind of reestablish
35:20
some of those same points that the the whole Old Testament
35:24
system was in a large scale allegory, a big, big object
35:29
lesson. And the apostle here, the author
35:32
is looking back at it and saying, isn't it obvious that
35:36
the work was never done? Like look at it like Aaron
35:40
already pointed out, they kept doing it.
35:42
If they would have ever been actually purged, then the priest
35:46
would have had a seat. There would have been a place
35:48
for him to sit. There would have been no more
35:50
blood spilled. But they knew it's got to be
35:53
keep going, got to keep going because they were trying to keep
35:55
up with their new record of sin. As Aaron already mentioned, so
35:59
beautiful that he keeps pointing out.
36:00
But the the implications of the of what Christ did and him
36:04
sitting down are so huge, especially to the Jewish mind.
36:07
Somebody mentioned early on today that we can understand
36:11
some of these concepts just by reading about them.
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But to have lived that way, to have raised the lamb on your
36:16
yard, to have bottle fed the thing perhaps and and brought it
36:20
in next to your bed when you go to sleep at night.
36:22
And then to lead that little lamb down to the Tabernacle and
36:26
slit the throat, pour the blood, burn the body, all that stuff
36:29
like it was, it was so in their bones that you have to make
36:33
restitution. You have to keep doing this
36:35
because we always keep sitting and sitting to, to see that that
36:39
that clearly tells us that their conscience was not yet clean.
36:43
They're the sins were not yet purged.
36:45
The worshippers were not yet purged completely.
36:49
That's good stuff, Velvet. Yeah, that.
36:52
That's just so amazing. You know, so maybe we didn't
36:57
experience having to, you know, raise a lamb and then then have
37:01
it, you know, killed by the priests for our sins.
37:05
But but what we were discussing earlier, it seems like when we
37:12
don't grasp that the surety of Christ and you know he he says
37:19
here again, he. Is the word the word?
37:22
Once again, when we don't grasp this concept of Christ dying
37:27
once for our sins and that we are heard from the conscience of
37:33
our sins through Christ. When we don't believe that and
37:37
we don't live in that, then we are kind of in the same way
37:43
living under the law, right? And we're still wanting or maybe
37:47
we're not actually physically raising a lamb and and taking it
37:50
to the pre score sins. But we that's kind of what we're
37:53
doing in a sense. And so I think that we were
37:59
discussing this earlier about, you know, then people say, well,
38:04
you can just, you know, do whatever you want and we can
38:06
send and let you know. Paul says, no, we can't send
38:10
that grace may abound. No, that's not that's not how it
38:13
works. But but I think we just simply
38:17
don't get the concept. And that's what he's trying to
38:21
pound home here, right? And he's doing it in a very
38:25
detailed manner. I was just thinking about as we
38:28
read, as I read earlier today through what we're going to
38:31
study tonight, I'm like, didn't we just like talk about this,
38:35
right? And now he's going through it
38:37
again. And I heard something earlier
38:42
today where a man said that man needs to be told once about
38:48
something and needs to be reminded many times.
38:52
And so I think that's what he's doing here.
38:54
He did tell us, but now he keeps reminding.
38:58
Good point, Andrew. It's also prior.
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Part of the reason is, is that when you are still not spiritual
39:06
minded, it's really hard to see things so you can read because I
39:14
without reading Colossians 2 as an Amish guy, totally lost what
39:18
the Bible was. Just so hard to figure out and
39:21
just didn't make any sense. Looked like it's full of
39:24
contradictions. And I would read the whole thing
39:30
and it's talking about traditions of men and beguiling
39:33
men beguiling us the whole way down.
39:37
But by the time I saw it was where it said it show of wisdom
39:42
with world worship and voluntary humility.
39:45
And I saw that the second time I wrote it the first time I
39:48
thought it was to confirm my belief.
39:51
So I think that's probably one of the reasons why he has to
39:54
repeat himself over and over and over and over because we can see
39:57
it's right in front of us, but we don't get it like right over
40:01
it. So here he's going to make them
40:04
step over the finished work of Christ.
40:07
I mean, it feels like. 150 times already just by the time we got,
40:13
you have to step over it and eventually all of a sudden
40:16
you're going to step on it and he's going to pop.
40:19
But what I was thinking about is when I first heard the gospel
40:28
that Jesus Christ took my sins away, I was like, that has to be
40:32
really good news because I'm dealing with this all the time.
40:36
I remember making confessions at church sexual immoral sense That
40:41
is so embarrassing. You about pass out.
40:43
I mean, it's horrible, but my conscience wouldn't let me go.
40:48
My conscience. It would bother me so bad until
40:51
I confess these gross sins in front of all the women and
40:55
children, like the young people, single people, possibly girls
41:00
that I would possibly want to date and they find that out
41:03
there. But I don't do it.
41:05
But I still did it because that bothered me so bad.
41:10
And then to find out that my sins are covered, Jesus Christ
41:15
took all of them away. It's such a relief to know that
41:20
He took them away. And then I found that out and I
41:25
was elated. But then I was told that my sins
41:30
that I commit now aren't a problem now.
41:37
Yeah. Now all of a sudden the sins are
41:40
a problem again. I thought he took them away.
41:44
Oh, yeah. But those were the ones you've
41:46
already done. So now my sins are a problem
41:49
again. Well, that's a real problem.
41:52
So that's kind of what he's dealing with here.
41:56
It doesn't show up again. He's never going to come back
42:00
and say, I know you. We dealt with your.
42:05
We dealt with your sins, but they show up again.
42:09
You know, they don't show up next year.
42:11
They don't show up in two years. They don't show up again.
42:15
God's not going to come around to Andrew.
42:17
Your list is long again. You know you.
42:21
It's time to get clean again. It's time for communion.
42:24
You better get cleaned up. He doesn't do that.
42:27
He's saying this sacrifice in order for it to be better than
42:31
the law, it your conscience. Not even.
42:35
You're not even thinking anymore about atonement.
42:37
Your conscious not thinking. Amen.
42:39
Is sin right how can I get free again?
42:42
How can I get clean again? What you think about now is when
42:47
you sin is that we have an advocate with the Father that
42:50
there's blood that speaks better things than that of Abel, that
42:53
there was a great high priest that has perfected them forever
42:57
that are sanctified. And that's what we have.
43:00
That's that's the only hope that we have is what he has already
43:03
done. And that's the kind of gospel
43:05
that no flesh should glory. You.
43:09
Can't be in glory, can't do it. But I also wanted to point out
43:14
what I've been told also was that yes, the blood of Christ is
43:19
flowing 24/7, forever. And every time you confess it,
43:24
the blood washes it away. It's like a bloodstream that is
43:28
a Creek or a river that's flowing.
43:31
And every time you throw a sin in there, it washes it away.
43:35
So that's dump your sins. It's this everlasting atonement.
43:40
So you see how they're twisting in this and making sense of this
43:44
everlasting atonement and forgiveness, but it's your
43:47
responsibility to dump them in there.
43:49
So you're, you're, that's how you get rid of them.
43:52
This everlasting, flowing, the blood of Christ is eternal, it's
43:55
forever. So that's how they would explain
43:57
these verses. These next verses wouldn't go
44:01
very well with that concept. Yeah, that's.
44:03
Right. Yeah, I remember exactly when
44:06
Moses showed me these because I was talking about, you know, I
44:09
have to be sorry or repent or put them put.
44:12
They talk about put your sins under the blood.
44:15
And then he showed me this and I go, oh, but I also remember it
44:21
setting me free, my conscience free.
44:26
So the the concept here in in verse 2 and you, you hit on
44:31
that, you know it, it's saying it's implying that a real a real
44:41
peace would have no more conscience of sense.
44:43
He's saying that was the problem with the old way is that it did
44:48
not take care of this consciousness, this awareness.
44:51
Of it didn't show up again, yeah.
44:53
And so what's what I think is interesting is so he is implying
44:57
that that through Christ there is no more like there, there
45:04
should be no more awareness of that sin.
45:08
You know. Boy.
45:11
You know, I'm going to go out on a limb here.
45:15
We've all been preaching this and talking about this for
45:18
probably years, and we're doing this study.
45:20
I don't think we get it yet. No, I I agree.
45:25
I agree to no, I agree with you, I don't think.
45:27
It's better than we think, yeah. It's way better yet we're doing
45:31
a horrible job. I think God sitting up there
45:33
going, man, they're hope for you.
45:34
I think he is, yeah. No, that's it's it's good.
45:41
Like if to to not have an awareness of sin is almost
45:46
incomprehensible. It's, it's so we're so in it.
45:49
Here it is. Most, most, most Christians are
45:53
very, very sin conscious and we ought not to be fun.
45:58
Yeah, I I think like Psalm 79. I just saw this Psalm 79 nine,
46:04
the writer of the Psalm saying help us, O God of our salvation
46:08
for the glory of thy name, and deliver us purge our way, our
46:12
sins for thy name's sake. You know that that was the
46:15
prayer of the Old Testament. We don't pray that for.
46:18
It anymore. Yeah, exactly.
46:21
I was reading Psalm 2 Psalms one O 3 as far as E is from the
46:24
West, so far as we removed our transgressions from us, you
46:28
know, or Isaiah 43 I even I am he that blotteth out thy
46:32
transgressions for my own sake, and will not remember thy sense
46:37
for his own sake. He said interesting 44 I have
46:39
blotted out as a thick cloud that transgressions, you know,
46:43
they're going man. And what would we bring him up
46:45
for if he did? And how arrogant would it be for
46:48
us to say some of them? Yeah.
46:51
Yeah. Yeah, no, I this is good stuff.
46:54
Amen. Yeah, Yeah, Cameron, everyone
46:58
thinks it's me heading this up because I started and stop it,
47:00
but it's Andrew, actually Andrew doing the pioneering there.
47:05
Yeah. You see the comment there
47:08
anyway. But I don't know what that
47:09
means. You're bleeding it out.
47:13
Verse 3. But in those sacrifices, there
47:16
is a remembrance made again, made of sins every year.
47:20
And then just I mean, it's I should have read this first
47:22
before I said what I said. But like so.
47:25
So he is suggesting that there would be such a possibility that
47:30
there is no remembrance of sin again.
47:35
Wait a minute. How's how's that even possible?
47:39
I don't know. Washing of water by the word is
47:42
what he says us to do to our wives.
47:43
I don't know. Submerse ourselves.
47:45
It is grace. Submerse ourselves.
47:47
It is word. It is love.
47:48
It is It is arms. It is truth.
47:50
I don't know. Tell me.
47:52
I mean, what do you think, Aaron?
47:53
Go ahead. I.
47:56
Well, I, I was going to, I was going to look at it as a
48:04
actually something you said before that reminded me of verse
48:08
three. You said something about God
48:12
seeing it. And I think that that's what to
48:14
me, that's what really opened it up for me, made me see it
48:20
clearly. Is that's the key is, is God
48:25
like he says that even in the Romans 6 and seven that we've
48:28
talked about earlier that God is considering us dead.
48:35
So it's not that's I think that's what confuses us.
48:40
We're not seeing it from his perspective, but in God's
48:43
perspective. He's not seeing just like the
48:46
camera wrote there. You know, our life is hid with
48:49
Christ and God. So that's what we miss.
48:52
We're not. We're looking at it from that
48:56
moment by moment. We mentioned earlier that
48:59
day-to-day, we see it in real time.
49:02
Whereas God in those verses that Leon read has just said, I have
49:08
forgot who they were. They are a new person in Christ,
49:12
right? They are a new creature now.
49:13
They are a perfect sinless. They've got a new record.
49:17
And and if you and if we. Would see that I think it would
49:20
make more sense, right? I mean, we're looking at it from
49:23
the perspective of reality that I do fall short.
49:27
I don't always do what I should. I fail to do what I know I
49:30
should do. We see that in reality and we
49:35
fail to look to realize what God is reckoning.
49:38
In that. And and I think that that's
49:41
because, you know, I said that to say that verse 3 is saying,
49:45
like I said earlier, they didn't have this concept.
49:48
They knew we're going to do this this year and we're going to
49:52
remember what great centers we are again next year at this
49:54
time, right? Like they, they were they this
49:58
was not a concept. The concept was you all are
50:01
great centers. You got to pay a big price next
50:04
year. You all are great centers.
50:05
You've got to pay a big price next year, you know, like over
50:08
and over again. And he's saying, listen, folks,
50:11
there's been one sacrifice made. It is not happening again,
50:16
right? It's, it's, I mean, that is the
50:18
whole point of several of these verses.
50:19
It's not going to happen again. And like I said, I think that
50:24
that for me anyway, that's what opened my eyes was when I
50:28
understood that it's God's perspective is I have forgotten
50:34
it. You are a new creature in
50:36
Christ. I I I'm not looking at it the
50:40
way I did before, right? Yeah, wow.
50:43
Perspective matters, doesn't it? Yeah, most people, even as
50:50
Christians, see church and Christianity as a sin management
50:54
system, a thing by which they purge their sins continually,
50:59
like the Andrew said, you know, throwing each sin individually
51:02
into the cleansing power of the blood and constantly trying to
51:06
get rid of the sins. But that's exactly in contrast
51:10
to what these verses are saying. And those sacrifices, the old
51:13
ones, there was this constant remembrance.
51:16
And I think what the issue is, I feel like what God is actually
51:19
trying to do for us is that if you were genuinely conscious of
51:24
all your sins, you would do nothing.
51:27
All you could do was think about how bad you are.
51:31
Every thought, every intention, every moment, every like you
51:35
would be completely frozen in fear and or you would just be on
51:39
this constant sin management conveyor belt of trying to get
51:44
somewhere but never actually getting anywhere.
51:46
The moment you walk out of the Tabernacle, you see some guy who
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isn't offering sacrifices and you think, well, I'm glad I'm
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better than that guy. Well, you may as well March
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right back into the Tabernacle and offer some more sacrifice.
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It's just never, you'll never, never get there.
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And So what God is trying to do with the New Testament in the
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law of the new Gospel is get off of that treadmill.
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And now you can serve people. Now you can walk in holiness and
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don't, you don't ever, ever, ever need to worry again whether
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or not your sins are managed or taken care of or cleansed.
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And it's too good to believe to believe like it's too good to be
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true. I recognize that because our
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conscience still smites us. We still feel bad when we fail.
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We should still feel guilty. But you won't feel guilty
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enough. You won't feel bad enough.
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Nothing is ever going to pay for it.
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So even when you sin, maybe especially when you sin, all the
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more reason to be grateful and thankful for what he's done
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because you can still go out and tell people the goodness of God
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because all the glory goes to him.
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All the the purging was on his behalf or like he did it.
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For us, rather. And there's no more sin
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management left in Christianity, not under this New Testament
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gospel that we have. Amen.
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That's right, I I think that that as one of the devil's tools
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actually is to do exactly what you said, Dan, is that he wants
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us to be so concerned about our sin all the time that it it like
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causes us to be stagnant. It just causes us to not be
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fruitful for the Kingdom of God, right.
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And when in all reality, like for me, just going through like
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this Hebrews, like we have been here on this study, just going
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through this verse by verse is just, it's mind blowing.
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Like I've read Hebrews many times, but I've never really
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went through a verse by verse like we have been.
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And so I think when you actually, I think most people
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just don't like they pick and choose.
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Maybe like I do that myself sometimes I pick and choose
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portions of the Scripture and and I don't actually sit down
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and go through a book like Hebrews to actually see what God
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has done and what Christ has done for me that I can just
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rejoice in that and rest in that right is what he has been
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showing us through this whole Hebrews so far.
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And so I think sometimes we just, we're too conscious about
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our sin, right? And we're looking at other
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things instead of looking at Christ and, and we should be
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looking at Christ and rejoicing and thanking him when we do sin.
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Like you said, Dan, that's so beautiful.
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Amen. I'll just say this, I think it's
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fair to say that I think I don't think it's wrong that I am this
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way. You can correct me if I am.
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But I feel like it frustrates me and disappoints me more when I
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fail with the understanding that I have than it did back when I
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thought I could confess them. Because the argument that you
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can just send because they're under the blood is no different
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than the one that where I can just send and confess with what
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the difference. So when you know that God has
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promised me that I'm free from sin through by faith in
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believing that I'm crucified, the world is crucified to mean
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the body of sin. The flesh is destroyed by the
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body, by the dead dying of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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So much so that he asked the question in Colossians, if you
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died with Christ, why are you subject to ordinances?
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Because you should be way above that where you don't need laws
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or ordinances to cause you to do the right thing.
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So in light of that, it really frustrates me when I fall short
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because then I'm not I'm not. Then my response is not God.
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Please forgive my sins. My response is God.
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Please strengthen my faith, strengthen my my understanding.
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Give me spiritual wisdom so that I'm aware and don't fall into
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this trap. Because God forbid that I should
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misrepresent the one that gave me victory when he died rose
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again. So in like in that context, yes
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it I am very upset when I fail. But if I thought that I had to
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then now somehow make that scene right, Like you guys said, I
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would not get any work done because I would be constantly
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remembering and trying to remember and to try to read my
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intent, my thoughts and try to confess everything.
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If that was it, I wouldn't have a life.
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Which is why in the beginning I was trying to say if you
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actually believe in confession, then you wouldn't believe the
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gospel. Number one.
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You know, you can't believe both.
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And if you actually believe confession, which you really
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don't because if you did, I would see you on your knees all
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the time. But that's how I would see if
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you actually believe and follow through with what you said.
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I would see you dropping on your knees while we're working.
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I would see you dropping on your knees when a car drives by and
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the chick was in there with a short, low cut shirt.
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I would see you dropping on your knees right after that.
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You know, I never see people like that dropping on your knees
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just out of the blue. So they don't believe it
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technically. I don't know.
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It's just a budget confusion. It's kind of like where God says
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he kind of makes that clear in Paul's epistles that you can't
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serve 2, either are loyal to the one or and honor the one or
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dishonor the other. Like you can't serve God and
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man. Yeah, and yeah, Cameron said.
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The reason that it hurts so bad is because we notice our sin.
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You have a heightened awareness of sin.
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The other thing too is like what causes me not to want to even go
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there for myself is that this God that extended such gracious
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of your mercy, You know, it's I, I, I can't do that to him.
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Kind of, you know, it's, it's a love based, whatever.
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I don't know, love based rather than law based.
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It's more personal. It it feels worse.
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It's like totally misrepresenting your good dad.
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Let's say you have this perfect dad, and then you're just out
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there just messing up his name. In closing, I want to read this
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is probably one of my favorite. This is very much part of my
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testimony. I feel and probably everybody
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that's ever been converted. I like it.
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Psalms 40 verse two, he says he brought me up out of an horrible
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pit, and it was horrible out of the miry clay.
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It was miry couldn't get out. And he set my feet upon a rock
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and established my goings, and he has put a new song in my
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mouth. Even praise unto our God.
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Many shall see it, and fear and shall trust the Lord.
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Blessed is the man that maketh the Lord his trust and respect
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us, not the proud nor such as turn aside to lies, you know,
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let's not turn aside to lies. You know that thing about, you
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know, getting your sins under the blood and all that?
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That's lies, actually. It.
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Is and let's don't turn aside to those.
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Let's let's rest in this sufficient grace that has been
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given us. Can I share one verse that I
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forgot that I was going to share in regard to this verse that's.
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Very quickly. There's many, quite a few times,
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just the time will come where I'm going to set up a system
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where I will remember their sins.
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No more word remember. So that's God's idea.
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Amen. Amen.
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All righty, as we conclude today's study, and it was a good
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one, remember Hebrews 11. What faith is the substance of
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things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen.
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And I hope that by going through this clear, slowly and
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methodically, that we could open our spiritual eyes to see truths
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that we did not see before to the point where they are as real
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as the things that you see around you.
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I really do. I really hope that that's what
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would happen. That, and it is for me.
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It's open your eyes to do things.
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I love it. I love it.
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So anyway, God bless you guys. Thank you very much.
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Join us again next Monday night, same time, same place as we
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continue this study. Have a good week and God bless.