Latest / Financial Survival Network / The Cycles of Power & Economics with Martin Armstrong # 6229
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And where I got out of Congress was that we
- 0:05Speaker 1: can't do that because we'd have to lay off fifty
- 0:07Speaker 1: thousand people. So it's never about what's right or wrong
- 0:11Speaker 1: or about the people. Government is not Santa Claus. They're
- 0:15Speaker 1: not here to protect you. They could care less. This
- 0:18Speaker 1: is all about than retaining power. That's it.
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- 0:48Speaker 3: And welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial
- 0:52Speaker 3: Survival Network.
- 0:53Speaker 4: I'm your host, Carrie Letz. Martin Armstrong is with us.
- 0:56Speaker 3: Now we're going to be talking about Trump's first two weeks,
- 1:00Speaker 3: the tariffs, what is happening, the inevitable recession? Isn't inevitable?
- 1:06Speaker 3: And is there anything that can be done? Are the cycles?
- 1:10Speaker 3: The cycles rule? And that's it. Bartie. It's great to
- 1:13Speaker 3: have you back on the show. So quite quite a
- 1:16Speaker 3: show for the past two weeks.
- 1:18Speaker 1: Huh oh yeah, very interesting the Chinese curse. Right, maybe
- 1:22Speaker 1: we live in interesting times.
- 1:24Speaker 3: Especially if you're an FBI agent where you work for
- 1:28Speaker 3: the Department of Justice.
- 1:30Speaker 4: You got real interesting times there. Huh.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Well, they from the getting what you know, they deserve. Actually,
- 1:36Speaker 1: and I don't know, it's people have to understand about
- 1:43Speaker 1: government agencies. The same thing applies to NATO et cetera.
- 1:48Speaker 1: I mean it just take NATO as an example, and
- 1:50Speaker 1: they were created when there was communists and communism failed.
- 1:54Speaker 1: We really don't need NATO anymore, all right, And I've
- 1:57Speaker 1: seen the internal memos. How do we remain relevant? The
- 2:01Speaker 1: only way they remain relevant is by scaring the hell
- 2:05Speaker 1: out of everybody. Oh, Russia's going to come in, Ukraine falls,
- 2:09Speaker 1: They're going to take the rest of Europe. I mean,
- 2:11Speaker 1: it's just so send us money. They got to keep
- 2:15Speaker 1: their jobs. That's what this is all about. And every
- 2:18Speaker 1: agency is the same. I've said before. Back in the eighties,
- 2:23Speaker 1: you know, after the eighty seven you know crisis, the
- 2:27Speaker 1: crash there, the SEC was blaming the CFTC. SEEFTC was
- 2:31Speaker 1: BLAMINGCC you know, and I said, look, we should just
- 2:35Speaker 1: merge the two. And I said, everybody has one regulator
- 2:41Speaker 1: and where I got out of Congress was that we
- 2:46Speaker 1: can't do that because we'd have to lay up fifty
- 2:49Speaker 1: thousand people. So it's never about what's right or wrong
- 2:53Speaker 1: or about the people. Government is not Santa Claus. They're
- 2:57Speaker 1: not here to protect you. They could care less. This
- 3:00Speaker 1: is all about them retaining power.
- 3:02Speaker 4: That's it. I don't think they're.
- 3:04Speaker 1: All these agencies that you're going to see those going
- 3:07Speaker 1: into it's going to be the same thing.
- 3:08Speaker 3: Yeah, you think does is going to fail because right now,
- 3:12Speaker 3: as of last night, it looks like they eliminated the USAID,
- 3:16Speaker 3: which has been a deep state slush fund for over
- 3:21Speaker 3: sixty years. In fact, it was started by Kennedy during
- 3:24Speaker 3: the Cold War and it's really outlived its usefulness. But
- 3:29Speaker 3: now we find out they're funneling money, laundering money all
- 3:33Speaker 3: over the planet. They're feeding the prosecutors that were waging
- 3:39Speaker 3: law fair against Trump. They were doing it the Wuhan lab.
- 3:44Speaker 3: They funded Bill Crystal, I mean, the immigrants coming in,
- 3:49Speaker 3: the illegal alien invasion. They've been financing that. So it
- 3:55Speaker 3: looks like they're finished now maybe it's the first of
- 3:58Speaker 3: a lot more. I mean, Marty, can they really cut
- 4:01Speaker 3: a trillion dollars off the budget.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Oh they could, so will they be assassinated and trying
- 4:06Speaker 1: to doce it?
- 4:10Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean yourselves.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Look just look at the testimony. A day before nine eleven,
- 4:18Speaker 1: you had Rumsfeld. I think it was some two trillion
- 4:22Speaker 1: dollars was missing from the Pentagon budget, right missing, he
- 4:26Speaker 1: testified before Congress. Oh this is outrageous. I promise we'll
- 4:31Speaker 1: start an investigation. You know tomorrow. What happens the plane
- 4:35Speaker 1: to hit the Pentagon hit the very room where all
- 4:39Speaker 1: the records were. Oh, so sorry, we can't do that now,
- 4:43Speaker 1: I mean, how you know? And they still say the
- 4:48Speaker 1: Pentagon can't account for trillions of dollars? How you know?
- 4:54Speaker 4: Did they failed the last seven audits? Right?
- 4:57Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, look the irs comes in the audit.
- 4:59Speaker 1: You're this is all I can't account for that. I
- 5:02Speaker 1: don't think you're going to remain in business very law.
- 5:07Speaker 4: You'll be gone.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll lock you up, they'll you know, shut your
- 5:11Speaker 1: things down. You can't have SYLG.
- 5:14Speaker 4: You know.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Sorry, I didn't have time to do my accounting. You know,
- 5:18Speaker 1: the excuses for them are substantially different. For us, we
- 5:23Speaker 1: would be looking at jail time.
- 5:27Speaker 3: Yeah, well, maybe some of them. Are you know there's
- 5:31Speaker 3: purges taking place at the FBI and the DOJ. And
- 5:35Speaker 3: based on your personal experience with these these agencies, I'm
- 5:41Speaker 3: sure you're taking a little happiness in that.
- 5:45Speaker 1: People don't understand how it works. I mean, they're up
- 5:49Speaker 1: for sale. And in my case, I went to this
- 5:55Speaker 1: reverse profer or. They're telling you why you should take
- 5:58Speaker 1: a deal. Admit, Oh, we know, we didn't take any money.
- 6:03Speaker 1: I mean, no shit, Okay, how do you get a
- 6:06Speaker 1: billion dollars out of the bank and nobody knows where
- 6:08Speaker 1: it is. It's impossible, all right, you had to wire
- 6:11Speaker 1: it out. They didn't get it out of one dollar bills,
- 6:13Speaker 1: you know, But they're paid for it by the banks.
- 6:19Speaker 1: That's it, you know, the bank stole the money you
- 6:25Speaker 1: any reason. In my case, I met with my clients.
- 6:30Speaker 1: I said, you have to sue the bank. They did,
- 6:34Speaker 1: then they put a gag order on me to prevent
- 6:36Speaker 1: them from helping my own clients. Yeah, I mean, it
- 6:40Speaker 1: all to protect the bank, you know. And it's then
- 6:44Speaker 1: the bank gets to pleate guilty. Nobody goes to jail,
- 6:48Speaker 1: no fines, nothing, no fine, just return the money that
- 6:52Speaker 1: the stole. When I asked the lawyer in New York.
- 6:57Speaker 1: I said, you know, how come no bank wherever goes
- 6:59Speaker 1: to jail. Quite frankly, he said, you don't ship where
- 7:02Speaker 1: you eat.
- 7:03Speaker 3: Uh And and you know, the Southern District has always
- 7:07Speaker 3: been the focal point.
- 7:10Speaker 1: It's one of the most corrupt in the country. You
- 7:14Speaker 1: can even google us versus Zicatello. The judge gets caught
- 7:19Speaker 1: changing the transcripts. Now, if you or I changed court records,
- 7:24Speaker 1: it's a jail sentence.
- 7:28Speaker 3: As attorney, certify the accuracy of what you're producing in
- 7:33Speaker 3: New York State.
- 7:34Speaker 1: And the Second Circuit simply says, we know this is
- 7:39Speaker 1: a practice in the Southern District in New York. It's
- 7:43Speaker 1: rather unique. We suggest that they stop, but we don't
- 7:47Speaker 1: think we have the power to order judges to obey
- 7:50Speaker 1: the law. I mean, you just can't make up this stuff,
- 7:55Speaker 1: you know, as a Trump walked into with that. The
- 8:00Speaker 1: judge wasn't even a judge. He was a prosecutor acting
- 8:03Speaker 1: as a judge. How does he get the most important
- 8:06Speaker 1: case in New York City history as an acting judge.
- 8:12Speaker 3: I mean, it just you can't make the difference. The
- 8:17Speaker 3: difference is that Trump won, you know, he beat them
- 8:21Speaker 3: all how did he do it?
- 8:23Speaker 1: When he won the election? They were really scrooge. But
- 8:28Speaker 1: I could tell you what they were saying in DC.
- 8:30Speaker 1: They brought all this stuff against him. Oh if we
- 8:34Speaker 1: make him a fill and no, we will vote for him.
- 8:36Speaker 1: This is what they really believed.
- 8:38Speaker 4: And the opposite effect.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, even in my case. I did
- 8:48Speaker 1: a conference in twenty eleven because they wanted to do
- 8:51Speaker 1: this movie and I was told you'd be lucky if
- 8:53Speaker 1: twenty five people show up. Anymore. We had over a
- 8:56Speaker 1: thousand people and I was shot and I asked him,
- 9:00Speaker 1: I said, what why did you come? I said, was
- 9:02Speaker 1: really stunned, and they said I wanted to make sure
- 9:06Speaker 1: it was really you. Anybody can put it on this thing,
- 9:10Speaker 1: just says Martin Ormstrong. I said, boor, you guys really
- 9:13Speaker 1: don't trust government, do you? It is in no way,
- 9:16Speaker 1: But you know, I never thought of it from that perspective.
- 9:19Speaker 4: It was like Marty, Yeah, you're a beacon.
- 9:23Speaker 3: I mean I see the comments pop up on YouTube,
- 9:26Speaker 3: and you know they're controlled opposition. You know, don't just
- 9:31Speaker 3: say this stuff. They're still but evidently you have a pass.
- 9:36Speaker 3: Now they're through with you. They're onto other things. I
- 9:39Speaker 3: guess right, well, I think that.
- 9:43Speaker 1: It's it's gotten down to the point they just want
- 9:45Speaker 1: to know what the computer says anymore. Before it was
- 9:50Speaker 1: like we want the code. Now I'm not giving you
- 9:53Speaker 1: the code. And I think they thought that they could
- 9:57Speaker 1: just you know, yeah, you know, it's first of all,
- 10:02Speaker 1: you give them the code, that's the only thing you have. Yeah,
- 10:06Speaker 1: then what good are you afterwards? And then you know,
- 10:09Speaker 1: you end up in the ditch.
- 10:11Speaker 4: Do you have any regrets?
- 10:12Speaker 1: No, I mean I think everything worked out the way
- 10:17Speaker 1: it was supposed to work out. You know, my lawyer,
- 10:22Speaker 1: Richard Oltman, they went after their lawyers to remove them,
- 10:26Speaker 1: and his parting words to me was you should have fled.
- 10:31Speaker 1: I said, what you should have went to England. They
- 10:35Speaker 1: would have had to put on a real case to
- 10:37Speaker 1: get you back. And it says New York is just
- 10:41Speaker 1: forget it. They practiced law their way. It's different than
- 10:45Speaker 1: the rest of the country. That's why when they charged
- 10:48Speaker 1: Trump up there, I said the same thing, He's going
- 10:50Speaker 1: to get to see what New York really is. It's
- 10:53Speaker 1: just successful.
- 10:54Speaker 4: You know.
- 10:56Speaker 3: You know, your case, Marty Ryan reminds me a lot
- 10:59Speaker 3: of the Jason you know. Yeah, that they pulled on
- 11:03Speaker 3: you is exactly what they did to them.
- 11:08Speaker 4: Holding him with no charges. Yeah, holding him.
- 11:12Speaker 3: You know, guy's a cop, is a licensed FFL dealer.
- 11:16Speaker 4: I mean this article just appeared. It was nauseating.
- 11:20Speaker 3: They raided his house seven times marty and he was
- 11:25Speaker 3: charged with a misdemeanor trespassing. He never went in to
- 11:29Speaker 3: the Capitol building. He was on the West Lawn after
- 11:33Speaker 3: they opened the gates up, the guards. The police opened
- 11:35Speaker 3: the gates up, and he just walked over there and
- 11:38Speaker 3: took pictures. They confiscated his video and the things that
- 11:43Speaker 3: these j sixers went through is identical to your your
- 11:48Speaker 3: journey here.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Look, I've seen them. You wouldn't believe what they do.
- 11:54Speaker 1: I mean, there is several months your trials with people
- 12:03Speaker 1: in jail for conspiracy to murder. The judge. They prosecuted
- 12:12Speaker 1: I think two or three mafia families and after the
- 12:17Speaker 1: first one, the judge goes, oh, yes, I know this case.
- 12:19Speaker 1: This is where we don't have a body and nobody
- 12:21Speaker 1: knows actually who did it? Right? Correct? They just give
- 12:24Speaker 1: a theory. All they did was find in his car
- 12:30Speaker 1: at the airport. They don't have a body. They didn't
- 12:34Speaker 1: know if he really left or not. And they came
- 12:37Speaker 1: up with three different theories for each mafia family why
- 12:40Speaker 1: they would like to have killed them. And you just
- 12:46Speaker 1: go down the line. I mean people think, oh, well,
- 12:49Speaker 1: they can listen to my phone calls. I have nothing
- 12:52Speaker 1: to hide. Oh really, what they do is they you
- 12:55Speaker 1: you're on the phone, say bring me honey, pick up
- 12:59Speaker 1: a you know, pizzas on the way home. That's a
- 13:02Speaker 1: code word for keys of cocaine. In my vast years
- 13:06Speaker 1: of experience, this is what goes on. They just lie
- 13:09Speaker 1: about absolutely everything. They don't need anything.
- 13:15Speaker 4: So how do we add is Trump?
- 13:18Speaker 3: Uh basically, how does he clean up the judicial system?
- 13:23Speaker 3: If we don't fix that, then nothing else really matters here.
- 13:27Speaker 3: I mean, look, they're judges that put the j sixers
- 13:32Speaker 3: in prison. You know, it was just shocking. They've denied
- 13:38Speaker 3: every single motion that they made, and you know, even
- 13:43Speaker 3: to the point where they wouldn't allow their lawyers from
- 13:45Speaker 3: out of state to represent them. So people were forced
- 13:49Speaker 3: to either use the public defender, which is just like saying,
- 13:53Speaker 3: just take me away to jail, or spend hundreds of
- 13:56Speaker 3: thousands of dollars on local council there. And look, I've
- 14:01Speaker 3: been in a lot of cases. It's like there's never
- 14:04Speaker 3: an issue as long as a lawyer is in good
- 14:06Speaker 3: standing to have him admitted prohac vice. It's called you know, right.
- 14:12Speaker 4: And they wouldn't do it. I mean, it was so
- 14:14Speaker 4: corrupt there. And only.
- 14:19Speaker 1: You can you can deal with this is that one.
- 14:22Speaker 1: No prosecutor should be allowed to indict anybody. It should
- 14:27Speaker 1: go to a committee. The committee has to vote to indict,
- 14:32Speaker 1: because what happens is that prosecutor indicts you finds out
- 14:38Speaker 1: that you're innocent. And there are numerous cases like this
- 14:42Speaker 1: in Boston and they awarded a jury over one hundred
- 14:45Speaker 1: million dollars to a family because they prosecuted somebody they
- 14:49Speaker 1: knew was innocent and he died in prison. Really all right,
- 14:56Speaker 1: and it probably becomes they will not admit a mistake
- 15:02Speaker 1: because then their personal career is affected. And court appointed
- 15:10Speaker 1: lawyers absolutely worthless, worthless. They are just paid to do
- 15:15Speaker 1: whatever the government says. And you know, look, General Flynn,
- 15:26Speaker 1: he's got out a documentary the same thing. You do
- 15:29Speaker 1: not hire a law firm from the same city. Why
- 15:38Speaker 1: in my case I was had Tender green Blatt in
- 15:41Speaker 1: New York. They're all talking about how the judges acting illegally,
- 15:46Speaker 1: and I said, well, file a motion to recuse. Oh
- 15:49Speaker 1: we can't do that. Why oh, because the rest of
- 15:52Speaker 1: the judges will prejudice our firm. So, in other words,
- 15:57Speaker 1: because of your firm, I can't get good representation. Frank
- 16:03Speaker 1: Watron hired a firm, you know, Kecker out of San
- 16:08Speaker 1: Francisco to defend him in New York. Then that firm
- 16:13Speaker 1: made a motion to recuse. We had the same judge
- 16:17Speaker 1: and went up to the to to recuse the guy.
- 16:22Speaker 1: The judge is Richard Owen. You can also google that.
- 16:26Speaker 1: The things that he ended up with, you know, hint dementia.
- 16:29Speaker 1: He would forget who the heck I was.
- 16:33Speaker 3: Hey, I'll never forget the first time I went into
- 16:37Speaker 3: federal court, you know, as an attorney, and there's a
- 16:40Speaker 3: guy ahead of me arguing emotion and he says to
- 16:45Speaker 3: the judge, judge, this is the law in this case.
- 16:49Speaker 3: And the judge looks at him, and he takes off
- 16:51Speaker 3: his glasses and he stares at him for a minute
- 16:54Speaker 3: and he says, young man, in this courtroom, I.
- 16:57Speaker 4: Am the law. Yeah.
- 16:59Speaker 3: This is It's like, oh my goodness, man, this is
- 17:02Speaker 3: like a different world than I'm used to. You know,
- 17:05Speaker 3: there's no you know, federal judges appointed for life, and
- 17:11Speaker 3: they take that very seriously, which means they're all carried
- 17:14Speaker 3: out in a box. That's how they leave the Federal bench. Look, it's.
- 17:22Speaker 1: My case is probably a record. If I went up
- 17:26Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court again, two justices would have to
- 17:30Speaker 1: retuce Satima's side of my word was on my case
- 17:34Speaker 1: and Kagan. Kagan was the Solicitor General when I finally
- 17:38Speaker 1: got to the Supreme Court. She's the one that told
- 17:41Speaker 1: New York you better release this guy. I'm not going
- 17:44Speaker 1: to argue. How are you keeping somebody in prison on
- 17:47Speaker 1: an eighteen month statue for seven years? We're not charges.
- 17:53Speaker 1: So she had she ordered, I'm not going to argue
- 17:56Speaker 1: for you. They had to release. That was it. If
- 18:00Speaker 1: I never got to the Supreme Court, they would have
- 18:02Speaker 1: simply let me die in a cell. That's just the
- 18:05Speaker 1: way you were kid. Wow, when your lawyer in New
- 18:10Speaker 1: York tells you be careful when you walk into your cell,
- 18:15Speaker 1: always turn the light on before you go in, I said, why,
- 18:19Speaker 1: because they will try to kill you. They put baby
- 18:23Speaker 1: oil in the light bulb you go into the cell.
- 18:27Speaker 1: They locked the door, You turn on the light and
- 18:29Speaker 1: explosi you and burned the desk. I said, oh, that's
- 18:32Speaker 1: very nice. I mean it's ruin Epstein just where they
- 18:38Speaker 1: put him. I knew there's nobody that is going to
- 18:41Speaker 1: have any possibility of bringing those people on to the
- 18:46Speaker 1: stand to testify. Bill Clinton, et cetera. Not going to happen.
- 18:52Speaker 4: It's days were dumb going this.
- 18:53Speaker 1: If he was guilty or not, there was never going
- 18:55Speaker 1: to be a trial for that guy. Never.
- 18:58Speaker 3: So let's talk investing gold, stock market cryptos because Trump
- 19:04Speaker 3: seems to be in love with cryptocurrencies.
- 19:10Speaker 1: Look, Trump, I, in all honesty, is living in an
- 19:17Speaker 1: ancient world. His tariffs, all this stuff. It's back with
- 19:24Speaker 1: the old economic theories that you know, we put on
- 19:31Speaker 1: towers to protect domestic jobs. Cryptocurrency, sorry, it's not economically feasible.
- 19:42Speaker 1: All right. He seems to have been bought into this
- 19:46Speaker 1: all this nonsense. And some of you want to let
- 19:49Speaker 1: him know. The bitcoin is actually created by the intelligence agencies.
- 19:53Speaker 1: There's a white paper on it that was put out
- 19:55Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six, so we know where there was
- 20:00Speaker 1: never any fictional Japanese guy they created it. I mean,
- 20:07Speaker 1: if some guy created blockchain. Why isn't he out there
- 20:10Speaker 1: were suing for you know, hundreds of millions of dollars
- 20:13Speaker 1: for for rights. I mean it's uh, it was created
- 20:18Speaker 1: by it came out basically the NSA, and the whole
- 20:23Speaker 1: purpose of it is it's been governments, you know, a
- 20:29Speaker 1: long time dream. I hand you one hundred dollar bill,
- 20:33Speaker 1: they don't know where it came from. I give you
- 20:35Speaker 1: one hundred bitcoin, you know where I got it from?
- 20:37Speaker 1: And everybody else down the line? Did everybody pay their
- 20:41Speaker 1: taxes on the you know, they went, you know, ten
- 20:45Speaker 1: percent every time it trained you do a transaction that
- 20:49Speaker 1: original one hundred dollar bill, after ten people they had
- 20:52Speaker 1: they own one hundred percent of them.
- 20:54Speaker 3: Yeah, so all right, so stock market, he said, sixty
- 21:00Speaker 3: five thousand by twenty thirty two, you're sticking with that.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, when it was twenty we said we're going
- 21:09Speaker 1: to know. Our first target was forty we rostic.
- 21:12Speaker 4: I remember forty five. What you happen? You said between
- 21:15Speaker 4: twenty two and twenty four.
- 21:18Speaker 1: What you have to understand is that sixty five thousand
- 21:24Speaker 1: forecast is not just the stock market. You're also forecasting
- 21:31Speaker 1: the purchasing power of the of the currency. You know
- 21:36Speaker 1: if the currency drops by fifty percent value, all right,
- 21:40Speaker 1: you're in eighty thousand. Because everything has a international value
- 21:46Speaker 1: to it. And so we have to understand that we're
- 21:53Speaker 1: in a in a cycle and nobody's been able to
- 21:59Speaker 1: ever beat the business cycle. I mean that was marked
- 22:02Speaker 1: his idea. Keynes also came up with it will smooth
- 22:05Speaker 1: it out. Arthur Burns, who was the FED chairman when
- 22:10Speaker 1: Brenton Woods collapsed, he came out and said, look, the
- 22:14Speaker 1: business cycle always wins, all right. Paul Voker put out
- 22:21Speaker 1: a book, Rediscovery the Business Cycle in seventy eight. Paul
- 22:25Speaker 1: came out. I even spoke to him. He says, look,
- 22:28Speaker 1: your model is correct. I agree, there's an an eight
- 22:32Speaker 1: year business cycle because everything's involved in it, from war
- 22:37Speaker 1: to climate, you name it, fiscal mismanagement by government. But
- 22:43Speaker 1: we have to understand that the crash that is coming
- 22:47Speaker 1: is going to be in the debt markets. It's government.
- 22:53Speaker 1: It's not going to be the stock market. Everybody keeps
- 22:56Speaker 1: looking at oh a sockomart is going to crash like
- 22:59Speaker 1: it did in in nineteen twenty nine. U has had
- 23:02Speaker 1: to balance budget, right, we don't have that today. This
- 23:07Speaker 1: is why the central banks are in trouble, pot raises
- 23:11Speaker 1: interest rates to try and fight inflation and creates more
- 23:15Speaker 1: Why because basically the government is the biggest bart win
- 23:18Speaker 1: a room. So we have a trillion dollars and interest
- 23:21Speaker 1: expenditures this year, then next year you got to pay
- 23:25Speaker 1: interest on that trillion besides the debt. It just multiplies, right,
- 23:32Speaker 1: you know, the debt were more than double by the
- 23:35Speaker 1: time we get to there.
- 23:37Speaker 3: Okay, So your concept of like passing out like stock
- 23:41Speaker 3: investment certificates to cash out the debt, is that viable?
- 23:47Speaker 4: Can that be done?
- 23:48Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, that's the only way to get out of this.
- 23:51Speaker 4: But that's the market will blast off, right.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Well, yeah, look, you got thirty four ty dollars in
- 24:00Speaker 1: government debt. That's just in the US, all right. If
- 24:06Speaker 1: that wasn't there and they could only invest in the
- 24:10Speaker 1: private sector, your mortgage rates would be a lot lower
- 24:15Speaker 1: because you're competing with the government, crowding out, and the
- 24:18Speaker 1: government's going to you know, a bank is going to say, well,
- 24:21Speaker 1: they're triple a, why should I give it to you
- 24:24Speaker 1: at the same rate. You gotta give me a premium
- 24:26Speaker 1: to give you a mortgage, all right, They're competing with
- 24:31Speaker 1: everybody small businesses, homeowners, et cetera. You eliminate that government debt.
- 24:39Speaker 1: That money would then be freely invested privately. It won't
- 24:43Speaker 1: be just all the stock market, but in real estate
- 24:45Speaker 1: et cetera. Everything will benefit. You'll create more jobs.
- 24:49Speaker 4: So it just you're printing more money or how does
- 24:52Speaker 4: this work? Exactly?
- 24:55Speaker 1: Well, Actually, if we had printed the money instead of barrow,
- 25:01Speaker 1: the debt would be at least half what or we're
- 25:04Speaker 1: at now. Why mainly because when you borrow it, you're
- 25:10Speaker 1: paying interest on it, and it's just multiplying, all right,
- 25:15Speaker 1: at eight percent, you double your your the debt within
- 25:19Speaker 1: less than less than ten.
- 25:20Speaker 4: Years interest on all right.
- 25:23Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's complicated.
- 25:26Speaker 4: You know.
- 25:28Speaker 1: They basically borrowed rather than printing because of an old theory.
- 25:36Speaker 1: And these are the theories that go back to when
- 25:39Speaker 1: we were on a gold standard, et cetera.
- 25:42Speaker 4: If we.
- 25:44Speaker 1: Effectively just borrow the money, we're taking money out.
- 25:48Speaker 4: Of the system. All right.
- 25:52Speaker 1: But if you had a one hundred dollar you know
- 25:57Speaker 1: e bond and you went to the bank in the sixties,
- 26:00Speaker 1: say kenya, I borrow fifty dollars against the answer was no,
- 26:04Speaker 1: it was illegal. So after Bretton woods. Debt is now
- 26:09Speaker 1: just money that pays interest. You went trade futures, you
- 26:12Speaker 1: can post t bills. There's no distinction between them. So
- 26:18Speaker 1: the old theory of it's less inflationary to borrow than
- 26:22Speaker 1: the print doesn't work anymore. And now it's more inflationary
- 26:25Speaker 1: because now you're just creating money that pays interest, and
- 26:31Speaker 1: then the other central banks hold it as their reserves.
- 26:35Speaker 1: So then what you know, at times more and half
- 26:38Speaker 1: of the the interest expenditures that we have made go
- 26:42Speaker 1: outside the country, so it doesn't even stimulate the domestic economy.
- 26:48Speaker 1: You know, the economy has grown, it's evolved, and nobody
- 26:53Speaker 1: seems to have paid attention. Yeah, they just still keep
- 26:59Speaker 1: operating under these old theories. And that's my concern with Trump.
- 27:07Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't realize. I mean there's even made
- 27:11Speaker 1: comments that, oh, we want to lower dollar so we
- 27:15Speaker 1: can reduce the trade deficit. Fine, I've been calling that.
- 27:19Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many crises over that same
- 27:22Speaker 1: stupid statement. All right, Yes, I warned them when they
- 27:29Speaker 1: did that in nineteen eighty five. They're going to stand
- 27:31Speaker 1: up and Pasi courts ay're gonna lower the dollar by
- 27:34Speaker 1: forty percent. I wrote to President Reagan, I s you
- 27:37Speaker 1: do this, you're gonna create a crash within a couple
- 27:39Speaker 1: of years. That was the eighty seven crash. Why they
- 27:44Speaker 1: sold a third in national debt to Japan. Now you're
- 27:47Speaker 1: gonna stand up there and say, well, we're going to
- 27:49Speaker 1: lower the value of the dollar by forty percent. You're
- 27:51Speaker 1: they're gonna sell, They're gonna lose money, all right. So
- 27:58Speaker 1: when you talk about lowering the value of the dollar
- 28:03Speaker 1: to help the trade deficit, you're only looking at one aspect.
- 28:07Speaker 1: What about all the money that has come in real estate,
- 28:10Speaker 1: stock market, debt, market from overseas. You lower the dollar,
- 28:17Speaker 1: they lose money, they sell and they leave, right. You know,
- 28:21Speaker 1: it's not just what you can sell. How many more
- 28:23Speaker 1: widgets to somebody else? You know, it is so asinine,
- 28:31Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to imagine how such stupidity and
- 28:35Speaker 1: government exists. Yeah, I mean, these people shouldn't be remotely
- 28:41Speaker 1: close to any legislation that creates anything to do with the.
- 28:45Speaker 4: Economy, that's for sure.
- 28:47Speaker 3: So one final question gold silver, Where you know record
- 28:53Speaker 3: high gold prices? Now, are we going over three thousand,
- 28:57Speaker 3: five hundred?
- 28:58Speaker 4: Where is it it? Look?
- 29:02Speaker 1: Gold goes up mainly because of geopolitical issues. The big
- 29:09Speaker 1: problem with gold immediately is that as the dour goes up,
- 29:15Speaker 1: gold goes down. All right, So what counter acts that
- 29:21Speaker 1: is war. If you look at gold went from one
- 29:27Speaker 1: hundred nineteen seventy six to four hundred December seventy nine,
- 29:30Speaker 1: but it went from four hundred to eighty seventy five
- 29:32Speaker 1: in the last six weeks. Why all right, because that's
- 29:38Speaker 1: my rush invaded Afghanistan.
- 29:40Speaker 4: Right I remember?
- 29:41Speaker 1: All right, so you have to understand that Europe is
- 29:45Speaker 1: being of war drums. Europe is in serious economic trouble.
- 29:53Speaker 1: I was just actually this morning, I was on a
- 29:57Speaker 1: zoom call for Europe and they're basically saying, look, everybody
- 30:03Speaker 1: knows they can feel it in their in their in
- 30:06Speaker 1: their gut. This is going to collapse, you know. They
- 30:12Speaker 1: they can't keep the union going. Uh. There's there's people
- 30:16Speaker 1: are blaming each other. The climate change was nonsense. Germany,
- 30:22Speaker 1: which is the biggest uh economy for the EU, won
- 30:27Speaker 1: the US bull up ward nord Stream one, warpstream two
- 30:32Speaker 1: is there, all right, Uh, but the Germans have voluntarily
- 30:36Speaker 1: cut it off because we have to do sanctions against Russia.
- 30:41Speaker 1: All right, Climate change you know, because of the Japanese
- 30:46Speaker 1: nuclear accident. Merkel goes, oh, no nuclear plants, that's dangerous,
- 30:52Speaker 1: So no nukes, no coal. She puts up all these
- 30:55Speaker 1: windmills that don't create anything, all right. And so Germany
- 31:04Speaker 1: has been the quarterstone of the EO economy. It is
- 31:09Speaker 1: actually shrunk by three percent. So it's between COVID and
- 31:14Speaker 1: all this stuff. You put so many small businesses out
- 31:17Speaker 1: of out of work. This is not working, all right.
- 31:23Speaker 1: And unfortunately, what you're looking at is is as Europe
- 31:29Speaker 1: begins to crumble, that capital is going to flow to
- 31:33Speaker 1: the US and push the dollar up again, as it
- 31:38Speaker 1: did with World War one world War two. So we
- 31:41Speaker 1: have to pay attention here. Gold will eventually go up.
- 31:47Speaker 1: We still see it, you know, going up to like
- 31:49Speaker 1: five thousand. You know, when you look further out, it's
- 31:54Speaker 1: just a function of the value of the purchasing value
- 31:58Speaker 1: of the dollar itself. Uh, even the bricks. A little
- 32:04Speaker 1: over fifty percent of the world population is now under
- 32:07Speaker 1: the bricks. Why because basically our neo cons only look
- 32:12Speaker 1: at war. They's threatened to take They took Russia out
- 32:16Speaker 1: of the Swift system, and that red flag to everybody
- 32:20Speaker 1: else if we don't do as the United States says,
- 32:24Speaker 1: they'll take us out. So then China, China, which held
- 32:29Speaker 1: ten of the debt you have blinking out there saying
- 32:34Speaker 1: if you help, Russia will do this to you. Smart guy,
- 32:38Speaker 1: I mean to they create their chip system and that's it.
- 32:42Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well, I think we covered a lot there,
- 32:47Speaker 3: all of you out there. My book with Martin is
- 32:51Speaker 3: going to be published, hopefully the next two or three weeks.
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- 33:17Speaker 3: and Marty it's if nothing else, it's going to be
- 33:19Speaker 3: interesting for the next four years. We'll see what happens next.
- 33:23Speaker 1: Well, I'm fortunately going into a worldbie session and it's
- 33:29Speaker 1: not going to bottom until twenty twenty eight. But it's
- 33:31Speaker 1: more than just Trump. This is an economic decline, probably
- 33:36Speaker 1: led by more than Europe than anybody else.
- 33:40Speaker 4: Most likely makes a lot of sense. We'll talk to
- 33:43Speaker 4: you again soon, be well.
- 33:44Speaker 1: Be well, Thanks a lot, nice to see you over there.
- 33:47Speaker 2: Take care, Thanks for listening to carry Letz's Financial Survival Network,
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