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Alex Traiman | CEO of JNS Speaks on Sid's West Wing Meeting with VP Vance & The Latest Coming Out of the Middle East · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: The CEO of JNS.org. Been on this show now over
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  Speaker 1: 200 times. Not even kidding you. One of my dear
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  Speaker 1: friends and just terrific in this business, Alex Trayman. Mr. Trayman,
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  Speaker 1: Shabbat Shalom. How are you? Shabbat Shalom.
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  Speaker 2: Great to hear from you.
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  Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you, too. And I know you're excited.
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  Speaker 1: I got that video from the prime minister's office on Monday,
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  Speaker 1: about six weeks after President Trump sent me a beautiful message.
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  Speaker 1: two-minute video as well. And I was not that long ago,
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  Speaker 1: I was complaining, where's the prime minister? And ends up
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  Speaker 1: coming on the show and sends me a video and
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  Speaker 1: now wants to see me next Thursday in New York.
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  Speaker 1: So all looks good in the Rosenberg-Netanyahu relationship, Alex.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it took a little bit of effort, but we
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  Speaker 2: definitely got the prime minister to understand just how powerful
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  Speaker 2: a voice you have been for Israel and for the
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  Speaker 2: prime minister defending him when so many other people are
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  Speaker 2: attacking him. You've been a staunch defender. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when the prime minister recognizes that people are behind him,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he rewards that loyalty. And he's very, very,
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  Speaker 2: very grateful for the work that you're doing to defend Israel,
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  Speaker 2: especially during this war since October 7th.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. And he's very much like Trump
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  Speaker 1: in that respect. So what do you think? He'll be
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  Speaker 1: here in six days and this idiot mayor, this... Moron.
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  Speaker 1: Now he says, I'm not going to go to any protest.
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  Speaker 1: He already set the fire. You know, it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like you set the fire and you run away. Who
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  Speaker 1: cares if he goes to protest now? He's already encouraged,
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  Speaker 1: not that they needed it, but he's encouraged all these
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  Speaker 1: hateful anti-Israel, anti-Bibi morons to go out there. So we're
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  Speaker 1: expecting some really big protests, especially one on Thursday from
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  Speaker 1: Brian Park to the U.N., about the time the prime
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  Speaker 1: minister is about to speak. They're going to make it
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  Speaker 1: pretty miserable here for B.B. Alex coming up on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on all that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, Mamdani called for the arrest of Netanyahu
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  Speaker 2: when he came to New York. Of course, he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have the power to do that. So it was all
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  Speaker 2: publicity stunt. But he did encourage people to go out
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  Speaker 2: to protest. Then he backed down and said that he
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  Speaker 2: wasn't telling people that they should protest, but just that
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  Speaker 2: everybody should recognize that people have the right to protest.
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  Speaker 2: He said he's not going, but we know there's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a big protest. And the prime minister actually,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's trying to balance The holiday schedule, we're
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  Speaker 2: going into Yom Kippur here on Sunday night, and then
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  Speaker 2: Friday night is the holiday of Sukkot. And the speech
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  Speaker 2: of the U.N. is right in between, so it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: leave a lot of time for the prime minister to
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  Speaker 2: come in and to do diplomacy. But in addition to that,
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  Speaker 2: because the nature of protests in New York City is
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be so robust, so great, the prime minister
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  Speaker 2: is probably not even going to stay overnight in New
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  Speaker 2: York City. He's not going to stay at a hotel
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  Speaker 2: specifically so that there won't be an overnight protest and
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  Speaker 2: all this noise around his hotel area. when he's staying there.
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  Speaker 2: So it does really impact his own schedule. And the
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  Speaker 2: prime minister is going to literally have to fly into
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  Speaker 2: New York, get off the plane, go make a speech
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  Speaker 2: and get back on a plane to come home.
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  Speaker 1: Cause he would have come the night before. I know
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  Speaker 1: the hotel he stays at. And the last couple of
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  Speaker 1: times he's been here, they've asked for rallies the night before,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's inside his hotel room and all these animals,
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  Speaker 1: these idiots are in the street yelling and screaming these morons.
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  Speaker 1: So what has happened before? And I think you're right.
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  Speaker 1: I think, even though nothing's going to intimidate Bibi like Trump,
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  Speaker 1: and nothing's going to stop Bibi from coming here, nothing,
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  Speaker 1: not even this idiot mayor, that it does make for
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  Speaker 1: a much more uncomfortable, that's the word I'll use, experience.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Bottom line.
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  Speaker 2: It's uncomfortable. It's also optics. Remember that we're going into
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  Speaker 2: an election here, and as you know, Netanyahu's up for
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  Speaker 2: re-election on October 27th, and he has to balance making
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  Speaker 2: himself look as good as possible and making... the Israeli
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  Speaker 2: public recognized yet again that he is the indispensable man
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  Speaker 2: at the head of the country versus liability. So if
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  Speaker 2: the headlines are mostly about protests, then that doesn't look good.
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  Speaker 2: If the headlines are mostly about what Netanyahu says at
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  Speaker 2: the United Nations in his eloquent English, well then, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's going to reflect nicely on Netanyahu.
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  Speaker 1: So not last year, the year before, the two-year commemoration
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  Speaker 1: of October the 7th, I went to Israel specifically for that.
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  Speaker 1: happened to fall on Yom Kippur, and I had the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to go to shul in Afrat. My good buddy
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  Speaker 1: Judah Honickman, your good buddy too, took me to that shul,
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  Speaker 1: and his brother-in-law Shlomo Katz is a great rabbi, and
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  Speaker 1: it was a wonderful couple of days. You remember that, Alex.
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  Speaker 1: But I got to tell you, do you watch this show, Fowler,
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  Speaker 1: talking about October the 7th? Because Daniel and I love
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  Speaker 1: this show. We love it. And season five just came out,
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  Speaker 1: like two weeks ago, maybe last week. And one of
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  Speaker 1: the episodes, it's all about October the 7th. And I
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  Speaker 1: got to tell you the truth, Alex. It's been a
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  Speaker 1: long time, maybe never, since I said to Danielle, please
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  Speaker 1: shut that off. Or I actually left the bedroom and
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  Speaker 1: went downstairs to watch something else. It was that disturbing. Rape, murder, kids, Nova, houses.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're like Tucker Carlson, you know, One of
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  Speaker 1: these morons who's yelling and screaming about genocide. Mom, Donnie,
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  Speaker 1: he still yells about genocide. My recommendation is go watch
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  Speaker 1: that episode. Go watch season five of Fowler. Do you
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  Speaker 1: watch that show?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not a big TV watcher, but as you said,
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  Speaker 2: episode seven and eight of this fifth season of Fowler
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  Speaker 2: show actual footage from October 7th, which is unique because Fowler,
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  Speaker 2: it's a dramatization. It's a series. But in these two episodes,
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  Speaker 2: they actually took real footage of what happened. on October 7th.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what's amazing? Actually, I was reading some
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  Speaker 2: headlines this past week. In places like in Italy and elsewhere,
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  Speaker 2: where people are calling out Israel for supposed war crimes
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  Speaker 2: and for genocide, when they poll the general public, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times people don't even know what happened on
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  Speaker 2: October 7th. They don't know about October 7th. They don't
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  Speaker 2: know that Hamas crossed the Israeli border unprovoked. murdered 1,200
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  Speaker 2: people in their homes, injured thousands of others, and took
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  Speaker 2: 255 people hostage back into Gaza. And that's the reason
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  Speaker 2: why this war started, because of what they did and
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  Speaker 2: that Israel had to get back the 255 hostages that
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  Speaker 2: they had kidnapped. People don't even know that that happened.
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  Speaker 2: So it's good that Fauda is putting that footage out
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  Speaker 2: there for people to see. And what's surprising about it
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  Speaker 2: is not just the viewers in the United States, but
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  Speaker 2: that Fauda is actually going to the top of the
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  Speaker 2: ratings on Netflix and even all across the Middle East
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  Speaker 2: and Lebanon and Jordan and Egypt and other places. And
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  Speaker 2: so the question is, why would these people that otherwise
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  Speaker 2: hate Israel spend their time glued to Fauda? And it's
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  Speaker 2: actually because they have tremendous, tremendous respect for admiration and
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  Speaker 2: fear for the state of Israel.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right. Yeah, a lot of these morons
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  Speaker 1: think that war started October the 8th. What is that
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  Speaker 1: lead actor's name again? I like him a lot. The
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  Speaker 1: ball guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't watch the show. I love that guy, whoever
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  Speaker 1: he is. If you talk to him, tell him Sid
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  Speaker 1: Rosenberg loves you. What's his name, Justin? That's right, that's right,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. So tell me this, talking about Hamas. Last
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  Speaker 1: we heard, they were not going to give up their arms,
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  Speaker 1: which President Trump wants them to do. Forget about Bibi,
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  Speaker 1: President Trump wants them to do it. They were not
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  Speaker 1: going to do it. And I'm still hearing about a
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  Speaker 1: couple of attacks here and there, still happening years and
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  Speaker 1: years later. What is the current status of Hamas in Gaza?
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  Speaker 2: Well, since Hamas agreed to give back the remaining hostages
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  Speaker 2: living and the dead, there hasn't been a major military operation.
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  Speaker 2: But Israel does hold 50% of the Gaza Strip, a
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  Speaker 2: tremendous buffer between the Gazan Population Center and the population
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  Speaker 2: centers in Israel. There are isolated attacks by Hamas toward
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  Speaker 2: Israeli soldiers at the positions that they're holding, but there's
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  Speaker 2: also targeted assassinations. We saw... just this last week, that
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  Speaker 2: Israel took out one of the heads of the Rafah Brigade.
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  Speaker 2: That's the city in the south of Gaza that the
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  Speaker 2: Biden administration said Israel shouldn't go into, and they went
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  Speaker 2: into it, and they did an amazing operation there, I think,
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  Speaker 2: killing Less than 10 people on that entire operation. It
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  Speaker 2: was an absolutely stunning military success.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Biden's. Biden said no. And Kamala Harris,
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  Speaker 1: that moron, said, I studied the maps.
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  Speaker 2: They said there'll be thousands. They said there'll be 10,000 killed. Right.
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  Speaker 1: In the meantime, we got Noah out and like 10
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  Speaker 1: other hostages. And by the way, correct me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 1: I believe in that same city of Rafa, that's where
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  Speaker 1: the Israelis took out Sinwar.
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  Speaker 2: Right, exactly. That was the last stronghold for Sinwar and Hamas,
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  Speaker 2: and that's why Israel had to go in there, because
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  Speaker 2: what Israel was doing was they were moving the population
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  Speaker 2: out of harm's way into the north, from the north,
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  Speaker 2: so they could operate in the north, so everybody went
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  Speaker 2: down to the south. So when all the civilians go
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  Speaker 2: down to the south, where do the Hamas terrorists go?
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  Speaker 2: They go under the cover of the civilians. Israel's trying
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  Speaker 2: to get the civilians out of the way so they
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  Speaker 2: could just fight Hamas and to take care of the infrastructure,
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  Speaker 2: and where does Hamas go? They go underneath and behind
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  Speaker 2: the civilians. to use them as human shields. But there's
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  Speaker 2: no way that Hamas is going to give up their
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  Speaker 2: arms now in Gaza.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Because how do they terrorize the population? How do they
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  Speaker 2: continue to remain in control of Gaza if they don't
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  Speaker 2: have their weapons? But I'll tell you that I think
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  Speaker 2: that Israel is relatively comfortable with this bad situation in
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  Speaker 2: Gaza in which Hamas still runs around with weapons because
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  Speaker 2: Israel could... defang and demilitarize Hamas. But if they did that,
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  Speaker 2: that would require another massive military operation. What would happen
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  Speaker 2: if there was a massive military operation? Israeli soldiers could
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  Speaker 2: lose lives as they have to fight in this booby-trapped
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  Speaker 2: urban fighting environment, very densely populated. And I don't think
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  Speaker 2: Israelis want to see more lives lost among their own soldiers.
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  Speaker 2: And second, the international condemnation would go up. What Trump
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  Speaker 2: has done with this 20-point plan is he's basically taken
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  Speaker 2: responsibility for the status quo in Gaza as being under
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  Speaker 2: his dominion, not under Israel's. And that's something that I
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  Speaker 2: think that Prime Minister Netanyahu has determined it's best for
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  Speaker 2: Israel to live with.
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  Speaker 1: About two more minutes ago, so you know I met
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  Speaker 1: with Vice President J.D. Vance yesterday. A lot of Jewish
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  Speaker 1: people very angry with me, very. And they all felt
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  Speaker 1: the need to send me their messages and their, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what they want me to ask them. And it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think having a good relationship with the VP,
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  Speaker 1: who may very well be the next president, is smart.
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  Speaker 1: I just think it's smart. And I like them. Not
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  Speaker 1: going to lie. Spent 25 minutes with the guy. I
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  Speaker 1: like them. Now, I'm angry about a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 1: stuff he said, and one of his friends in particular,
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  Speaker 1: and he knows that. And at some point, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to have to go toe-to-toe on that. He did say
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  Speaker 1: something a couple of days ago that was rough, and
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  Speaker 1: that was that he said that President Trump is ready, willing,
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  Speaker 1: and able to move away from Bibi Netanyahu. I've not
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  Speaker 1: heard the president say that, but that's what J.D. Vance said.
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  Speaker 1: You think there's any truth to that, that Trump is
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  Speaker 1: ready to move away from Bibi? And overall, what do
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  Speaker 1: you think about my meeting? And what does Israel think
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  Speaker 1: about my meeting with the vice president?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple of things about what Vance has
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  Speaker 2: said in recent statements, including in these last statements, which is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he feels like he has to go out
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  Speaker 2: of his way to constantly say over and over again,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that Israel doesn't dictate American policy. And why
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  Speaker 2: does he need to say that? And who is he
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  Speaker 2: pandering to? But with these last comments, you know, he
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  Speaker 2: said that Trump has shown a willingness to part ways
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  Speaker 2: with Netanyahu when he Trump felt that what Netanyahu would
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  Speaker 2: have wanted as the prime minister of Israel didn't perfectly
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  Speaker 2: align with Israeli interests. And so the wording that he
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  Speaker 2: used wasn't exactly careful. I don't think he should have
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  Speaker 2: used the term part ways, but I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: he meant part ways in terms of sever the relationship.
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  Speaker 2: I just think he meant not do exactly what Israel
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  Speaker 2: would want in its own interest if it didn't perfectly
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  Speaker 2: align with with America's interests. So I think that's where
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  Speaker 2: he said that they were part ways. But, of course,
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  Speaker 2: we've even seen the Jerusalem Post and others say that
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  Speaker 2: Vance said that Trump is willing to cut ties with Netanyahu,
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  Speaker 2: and that's not what he said. So I think Vance, like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why he's got to double down, but
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  Speaker 2: I think he also has to be much more careful
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  Speaker 2: with the phrases that he uses.
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  Speaker 1: He does. Like he used the word a couple days ago, subservient.
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  Speaker 1: You know, why is America subservient to Israel? He didn't
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  Speaker 1: say that about Turkey. He didn't say that about Pakistan.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk about subservient? Talk about clutter.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus, you could make that case. But you're right.
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  Speaker 1: For some reason, he's talking about the Middle East, right?
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  Speaker 1: Middle East. And the only country he throws in there
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  Speaker 1: is Israel. So these are the things that J.D. Vance
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  Speaker 1: needs to fix. And a lot of that, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: he sounds like his buddy Tucker. So that's the conversation
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  Speaker 1: that needs to be had. But I will tell you this, okay,
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  Speaker 1: for what it's worth. It's just Sid Rosenberg. Just me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe in my heart of hearts that J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Vance is an anti-Semite and that J.D. Vance hates Israel.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that he's necessarily an anti-Semite in his core,
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  Speaker 2: but the things that he's saying is giving a lot
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  Speaker 2: of wind to anti-Semites and being used by anti-Semites. And
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  Speaker 2: in some cases, it doesn't sound that much different than
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  Speaker 2: what some avowed anti-Semites are saying. In that position, it
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  Speaker 2: almost doesn't matter so much where his heart is as
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  Speaker 2: much as where his mouth is. And so in that sense,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think that he has a responsibility to
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  Speaker 2: be a lot wiser in terms of what he's saying
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  Speaker 2: and not to be following the whims of people like
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  Speaker 2: Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson who don't have that burden
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  Speaker 2: of responsibility as representing the greatest superpower in the entire world,
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  Speaker 2: as J.D. Vance does within this Trump administration.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing to argue there, man. You said that perfectly. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you a thousand percent. And these will
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  Speaker 1: be ongoing conversations. Between me and the vice president. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think I earned his respect. I know
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  Speaker 1: I did. I earned his respect yesterday, and we got
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  Speaker 1: along well. And now it's much easier to have these
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  Speaker 1: difficult conversations because everything you just said, Alex Freeman, is 1,000% true. 1,000%.
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  Speaker 2: I think what you're saying is true also. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is very likely to be the Republican candidates. for
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  Speaker 2: the President of the United States. And in that sense,
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  Speaker 2: he could be the President of the United States. And
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  Speaker 2: it's extremely important to have these channels, to establish trust,
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  Speaker 2: to work with somebody, rather than to just alienate them,
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  Speaker 2: because they might be the ones sitting in the most
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  Speaker 2: important chair in the entire world, and we will need
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  Speaker 2: their help to navigate very, very difficult challenges in the
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  Speaker 2: years ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly why I was there yesterday and exactly why we
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  Speaker 1: handled our first meeting the way we did. Alex, your
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  Speaker 1: beautiful Shabbat Shalom. And, of course, have an easy fast
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  Speaker 1: coming up this weekend, Yom Kippur. And we'll talk in
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  Speaker 1: between Yom Kippur and Sukkot. I love you, your whole family,
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  Speaker 1: all you guys. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: Love you, too, and love everybody in New York.
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  Speaker 1: We do. I love you, too, out here in New York.
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  Speaker 1: Alex Trayman right there, the CEO of JNS.org, one of
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  Speaker 1: the finest human beings you'll ever meet.
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