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JFK Book Reviews - Crime Without Punishment · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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Speaker 1: Hello there, everybody. Welcome into JFK Book Reviews. I'm one
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Speaker 1: of your hosts, Rob Clark, along with me Joe Barelli.
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Speaker 1: A rare JFK book reviews here. Today, we've got a
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Speaker 1: good one for you. It kind of ties into something
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Speaker 1: we've been talking about on the show here recently, and
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Speaker 1: that is the anti Castro Cuban exile community. Today we're
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Speaker 1: going to be talking about crime without Punishment by doctor.
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Speaker 1: Is there a doctor in the house, Doctor Carlos Jay
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Speaker 1: bring Yer Bringier.
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Speaker 2: Yes, And just to give it a little slap, it
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Speaker 2: is a little slick, a little fatter than it looks,
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Speaker 2: about four hundred and forty pages. And I'll let you
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Speaker 2: give some of the intro information on it and then
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Speaker 2: I'll get into the meeting taters.
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Speaker 1: Yes, sir. This was published in about December of twenty thirteen.
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Speaker 1: He barely missed the fiftieth anniversary by a month. He
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Speaker 1: probably should have had this book out like two months
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Speaker 1: before it came out and might actually sold some copies,
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Speaker 1: But I digress. It's been out now for thirteen years
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Speaker 1: and has a whipping six reviews on Amazon. Yeah, if
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Speaker 1: that tells you anything, that's pretty bad. It's about four
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pages in length, eighteen chapters, an introduction.
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Speaker 1: I believe that's about the only thing updated from this book,
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Speaker 1: which I'll get into in a second published by Author
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Speaker 1: House Publishing. And basically what this book boils down to,
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Speaker 1: it is not a rewritten book in any form of fashion.
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Speaker 1: It is basically a reprint, a rebranding, if you will,
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Speaker 1: of his nineteen sixty nine book Read Friday, Fred Friday,
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Speaker 1: Red Friday, which probably didn't sell shit in nineteen sixty
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Speaker 1: nine either. And this book kind of takes a low
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Speaker 1: nut lean a little bit, Joe, Yeah, it takes.
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Speaker 2: A weird lean because the sub title, if you will,
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Speaker 2: is how Castro Is assassinated President Kennedy and got away
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Speaker 2: with it, So we kind of expected that type of
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Speaker 2: lean towards this book. And ironically, Rob Carlos Brigner was
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Speaker 2: born on June twenty second, nineteen thirty four.
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Speaker 1: Well, happy birthday, Happy birthday.
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Speaker 2: Yes, a very spry ninety two years old. Definitely someone
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Speaker 2: that probably knows a lot more than he said, and
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Speaker 2: probably not going to say anything more. I think this
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Speaker 2: book was kind of his last kind of ditch effort
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Speaker 2: to kind of him Yes, and his last you know
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Speaker 2: take type of thing like you mentioned. There are eighteen chapters.
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Speaker 2: It starts with his roots in education on communism, exile
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Speaker 2: in Cuba, Guatemala, Argentina, then Guatemala to Miami, and then
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Speaker 2: New Orleans where he joined the DRE in I think
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Speaker 2: it was June sixty two. We'll get there in a second,
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Speaker 2: and then goes on to his encounter with Lee Harvey Oswalt,
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Speaker 2: the assassination of President JFK, back to New Orleans for
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Speaker 2: a few years, then the gas and investigation, and then
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Speaker 2: twenty seven more years in New Orleans Chapter twelve, then
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Speaker 2: to Miami for ten years, then back to Texas for
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Speaker 2: ten years. Lies, lies, more lies. The verdict and conclusion section,
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Speaker 2: And it's interesting because Brigner, kind of like Semi, argues
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Speaker 2: that Oswalt was not a genuine Castro supporter. He argues
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Speaker 2: that Oswalt's proactive pro castro activities were theatrical in nature
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Speaker 2: rather than sincere, and points to separate unusual facts, including
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Speaker 2: offering to train Cuban exiles.
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Speaker 3: Of course, a lot of people familiar with the case
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Speaker 3: will know he went into bringing a shop offered him
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Speaker 3: his marine manual, and then a couple of days after that,
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Speaker 3: was August fifth, encountered Oswalt's handing out fair play for
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Speaker 3: Cuba leaflets, which then a fracas and fight ensued. A
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Speaker 3: major argument of the book is Oswalt's behavior is difficult
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Speaker 3: to explain unless he had some relationship with US intelligence
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Speaker 3: or intelligence connected individuals. So he stops to know exactly
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Speaker 3: to say exactly who controlled Oswalt, but argues that the
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Speaker 3: official loan gunman theory there are major anomalies with and.
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Speaker 2: He's actually very has a lot of criticism of the
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Speaker 2: word commission. Important testimony was overlooked, minimized, contradictory evidence ignored.
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Speaker 2: Investigators failed to seriously explore Oswalt's activities in New Orleans.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of all over the place. A little bit.
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Speaker 1: That was like, it sounds like he has no idea
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Speaker 1: what the hell he's saying.
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Speaker 2: Right, let me read this part from his introduction.
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Speaker 1: I hope you can clarify as mindset here.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we're gonna try here. It's hard. I was in
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Speaker 2: God's hands when I met Lee Harvey Oswalt during the
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Speaker 2: summer of sixty three in New Orleans, and in this
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Speaker 2: book I explained to truthfully explain truthfully the activities that
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Speaker 2: transpired during that period. Many lies and distortions of the
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Speaker 2: truth have been published about those incidents, which my law
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Speaker 2: school background, I confront and clarify each one that I've.
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Speaker 1: Been aware of.
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Speaker 2: God gave me the opportunity to meet, among others, Lee Harvey, Oswalt,
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Speaker 2: New Orleans, DA, Jim Gaddison, and movie director Oliver Stone.
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Speaker 2: God is my witness that I write the truth in
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Speaker 2: this book. It is time for the United States public
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Speaker 2: and world public to learn the truth about in caps
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Speaker 2: quote how Castro assassinated JFK and caps. With my lawyer background,
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Speaker 2: I always study the background and credibility of a witness.
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Speaker 2: In this book, you will have the opportunity to do so.
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Speaker 2: At the same time, you will also be reading events
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Speaker 2: and anecdotes never published before. Here. You also will have
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Speaker 2: the opportunity to know me where I come from, and
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Speaker 2: you could judge if if I am a credible witness.
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Speaker 2: So interesting, huh, kind of let you know kind of
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Speaker 2: where he stands there. But I was a little surprised
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Speaker 2: that he wasn't as gun ho as Oswald, being under the.
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Speaker 4: Uh influence of cashtro right or a cashtro agent if
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Speaker 4: you will, so, let's see Let's go seven page one
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Speaker 4: one two.
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Speaker 2: In New Orleans, there versus tradition to celebrate a special
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Speaker 2: Catholic Mass that, if my memory doesn't fail and fail me,
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Speaker 2: was called Red Mass. The celebration was at the cathedral
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Speaker 2: and the maximum leaders of the archdiocese were also there,
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Speaker 2: as well as the mayor, councilmen and other political leaders.
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Speaker 2: I went to Jackson Square in front of the cathedral
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Speaker 2: to watch what was going on. I was surprised to
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Speaker 2: see that there was a demonstration going on organized by
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Speaker 2: a leftist group. I was there on my own, but
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Speaker 2: my decision, by my own decision or intuition. I was
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Speaker 2: neither a CI agent nor an FBI one. I was
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Speaker 2: just in God's hands. He goes number two, number five.
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Speaker 2: At the end of nineteen sixty two, I received communications
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Speaker 2: from Miami directing me that in the afternoon August twenty fourth,
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Speaker 2: I should contact in New Orleans press and tell them
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Speaker 2: something big that was going to happen in Cuba that night.
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Speaker 2: They put it like an important broadcast would be coming
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Speaker 2: from inside Cuba. I went to New Orleans State Statesmen
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Speaker 2: and talked to newsman Bill Stuckey, next day was completely different.
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Speaker 2: A big article appeared in the front page where the
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Speaker 2: DRI and I were featured. On the night of August
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Speaker 2: twenty fourth, sixty two, two boats of the Dre had
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Speaker 2: departed to Havana. When the leader the DRE, Juan Manuel
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Speaker 2: Savat we have talked about rob on the show recently,
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Speaker 2: gave the order to fire. They did so with all
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Speaker 2: their hearts. Sixteen cannon shots were fired, hitting a hotel
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Speaker 2: where Russian soldiers were staying. Another place that received some
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Speaker 2: shells was the quote Cuban Institute of People's Friendship. After
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Speaker 2: the shelling and the article the front page of the
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Speaker 2: New Orleans item, I became a celebrity among the Cuban
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Speaker 2: in New Orleans. Unfortunately, I also became a celebrity to others.
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Speaker 2: If my recollection is not wrong, I believe that it
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Speaker 2: was after this event that I received in Casa Rocco
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Speaker 2: the first visit of an FBI agent. Agent apparently was
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Speaker 2: in charge of Puban affairs of New Orleans, and his
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Speaker 2: name was Warren C. Debris. Agent Debris was very interested
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Speaker 2: in knowing the names of other members of the Daria
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Speaker 2: New Orleans. When I explained him that I was the
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Speaker 2: only delegate of the Daria New Orleans. Debris believe me.
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Speaker 2: Debris became irritated and told me that it'd be easy
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Speaker 2: for the FBI to infiltrate my delegation to find out
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Speaker 2: what they wanted. My response was, you were losing your
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Speaker 2: time because I am the only member of the d
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Speaker 2: in New Orleans. You can't infiltrate the delegation because I
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Speaker 2: am the only one you would have to infiltrate. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: Debriz was the FBI man New Orleans in New Orleans
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Speaker 2: to deal with Cuban affairs so interesting that he doesn't
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Speaker 2: really have nice things to say about Warren Debris here
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Speaker 2: as sorry as they keep going here. After a few
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Speaker 2: minutes of conversation, another person came into the store that
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Speaker 2: now in August fifth, the day when Lee offered his
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Speaker 2: Marine manual to Carlos. After a few minutes of conversation,
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Speaker 2: another person came into the store and started browsing around. Finally,
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Speaker 2: he approached us to introduce himself as Lee. Harvey oswald.
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Speaker 2: I did not have the slightest idea that this person
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Speaker 2: was the same that on April tenth, sixty three had
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Speaker 2: attempted to assassinate General Walker in Dallas. Osen was very
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Speaker 2: interested in our conversation and he asked me for some
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Speaker 2: literature against Castro. You mentioned that he had military experience
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Speaker 2: and offered his services to trade Cuban and gorilla and
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Speaker 2: commando activities. I explained to Oswalt I did not have
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Speaker 2: anything to do with military activities. That emphasized to him
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Speaker 2: that my only activities were around press and propaganda alerting
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Speaker 2: the American people about the dangers of communism. Let's see
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Speaker 2: one seventeen.
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Speaker 1: These three.
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Speaker 2: When we returned to the First District of Police waiting
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Speaker 2: for us, there was arrest Suspania. This is after the
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Speaker 2: practice and they got arrested. Interesting, right, ral Oh yeah.
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Speaker 1: Mister Ores Panya.
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Speaker 2: Owner of the Havana Bar, to whom Rolando had given
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Speaker 2: fifty dollars to pay for the board bonds of Celso Hernandez,
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Speaker 2: also arrested in the fracas, and myself Miguel Cruz's father
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Speaker 2: paid for Miguel's bond, and each of us received summons
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Speaker 2: to appear August twelfth. As we were leaving the First
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Speaker 2: District of Police, I felt satisfied because I had taken
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Speaker 2: a stance against the defender of Fidel Castro, but I
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Speaker 2: had felt impressed by the cold blood demonstrated by Lee
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Speaker 2: Harvey Oswalt. I was worry about the plans that the
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Speaker 2: FPCC Fair Play for Cuba Committee and New Orleans Council
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Speaker 2: for Peaceful Alternatives and Lee Oswalt could have for New Orleans.
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Speaker 2: That night of August ninth, I received phone call from
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Speaker 2: Frank Bartes, who at the moment was the New Orleans
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Speaker 2: delegate of the c RC, and was asking me to
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Speaker 2: attend a meeting at the house of doctor Augustine Quetart
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Speaker 2: at the reunion, which was attended by ten or more Cubans,
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Speaker 2: among them Romiro Montelavlo, who was a member of the
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Speaker 2: twenty five or six Brigade. At the meeting, it was
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Speaker 2: approved emotion to give all of their support, which would
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Speaker 2: be sending a delegation to the trial in solidarity with us.
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Speaker 2: So interesting when you talk about a lot of the
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Speaker 2: important Cuban exiles that were attending the I guess it
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Speaker 2: was the August twelfth hearing that was decided in the
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Speaker 2: night of the ninth. So there are interesting tidbits in here.
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Speaker 2: A lot of it is propaganda, A lot of it.
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Speaker 2: I am now going to skip kind of through a
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Speaker 2: lot of this and go towards the end. Here, he states,
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Speaker 2: I have never received any money from any agency. I
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Speaker 2: never worked for the CIA or the FBI or any
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Speaker 2: other agency of the government of the United States. I
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Speaker 2: have never received any money from any agency of the
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Speaker 2: government of the United States. I have never received any
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Speaker 2: money from the DRE. The pro castro, distorters of the truth,
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Speaker 2: or just ignorant will never be able to prove otherwise,
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Speaker 2: because it is impossible to prove something that never happened.
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Speaker 2: Do you believe that, rob Yeah, it could be true.
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Speaker 1: Look, I believe Look, and we know the CIA was
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Speaker 1: funding the DRE to the tune of twenty five to
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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars a month, right, twenty five thousand for operations,
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Speaker 1: twenty five thousand towards propaganda. And I am quite sure
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Speaker 1: that the big swinging Dixon the DRE were not dispensing
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Speaker 1: this money in the fashion that they should have been.
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Speaker 2: Which would have been Rocca Salvat the likes of them.
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Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, I think they saw an opportunity for themselves
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Speaker 1: to get rich. And I'll be damned. Delegates like Carlos
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Speaker 1: Brigner in New Orleans and doubtless others, you know, all
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Speaker 1: across the globe for the DRE. I'm sure they didn't.
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Speaker 1: They never saw a dime. Yeah, I mean, hence the
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Speaker 1: reason they're selling bonds in New Orleans, you know, raids. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and the CRC was doing the same thing. They're doing
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Speaker 1: their own fundraising in New Orleans. And fun fact, Carlos
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Speaker 1: Brine was part of the CRC before he was the
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Speaker 1: loan delegate in the DRE in New Orleans, and many
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Speaker 1: of his friends also former CRC members.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So when we're talking about this small dichotomy of anti
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Speaker 1: Castro Cuban exiles in New Orleans, they all knew each other.
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Speaker 1: They were all friends. And just because Carlos was the
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Speaker 1: loan delegate of the DRE in New Orleans doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: he still wasn't talking to all these other former CRC guys.
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Speaker 1: They're still his friends, they still get together, they still talk.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And his shop is right next to Oris Paine's bar.
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Speaker 2: They're all the same click.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, will they all know each other?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: For this to be some big revelation, I don't doubt it.
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Speaker 1: I don't doubt it that he wasn't seeing anything from
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Speaker 1: the the head Honchos of the dr in Miami.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if for some reason he was, it would
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Speaker 2: have been minimal, right, maybe like some expenses reimbursed. I
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Speaker 2: don't know.
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Speaker 1: I doubt I doubt it. But like I said, if
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Speaker 1: he was, then he was getting paid by the CIA.
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Speaker 1: But yes, yeah, yeah, I mean I noticed in this
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Speaker 1: book he goes out of his way to profess the truth.
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Speaker 1: According to Carlos Bringa, I am not a liar. I
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Speaker 1: am telling the truth. You know, that does protest too much, Carlos.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like when somebody when you're
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Speaker 1: having a conversation with somebody and they're telling you stories
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Speaker 1: and they keep saying, oh s where did God this happened?
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Speaker 1: This is absolutely true? The chances are it ain't fucking true, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you have to keep re asserting the
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Speaker 1: fact that, oh this is the truth, this is the
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Speaker 1: way it really went down. I swear, I swear on
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Speaker 1: the God, I swear on the kids. You know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, man, Yeah, last thing I'm going to
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Speaker 2: read here before I hand it off for you. Do
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Speaker 2: you are reading? And this is from the conclusion part.
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Speaker 2: The reader has been able to read from memos of
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Speaker 2: the CIA, and he did include a couple memos and
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Speaker 2: some of his correspondents with you know it was a
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Speaker 2: congressman or some people. He does deny ever knowing Joe
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Speaker 2: Anides or E. Howard Hunt, just in case anyone was wondering,
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Speaker 2: that Fidel Castro organized very groups in order to assassinate
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Speaker 2: President JFK. That Lee Harvey Oswalt was under the control
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Speaker 2: of the Cuban intelligence services. That Lee Harvey Oswalt assassinated
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Speaker 2: President JFK and tried to escape, that a high ranking
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Speaker 2: Cuban intelligence officer was waiting for him at Redbird Airport
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Speaker 2: in Dallas. That the Fair Play for Cuba Committee in Tampa,
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Speaker 2: Florida was also, through some of its members, very much
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Speaker 2: involved in the assassination plots against JFK. That Jack Ruby
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Speaker 2: was not a patriotic mourner, but a friend of mafia
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Speaker 2: boss Santos Traficante and a double agent working for Fidel Castro.
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Speaker 2: He's talking about Santo there. During all these years, I
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Speaker 2: had the doubt in my mind of who really was
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Speaker 2: that CIA agent was a bernard An agent. I meant
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Speaker 2: in December sixty three, when my sister Maria was brought
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Speaker 2: to Germany to rescue her son. At this writing, the
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Speaker 2: assassination President Kennedy was around fifty years ago. Detect Dictator
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Speaker 2: Fidel Castro converted in a cynical predator old man, maintained
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Speaker 2: his power in Cuba and is the longest dictatorship registered
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Speaker 2: in this hemisphere. The United States of America is sliding
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Speaker 2: rapidly into socialism. Lee Harvey Oswalt would have had the
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Speaker 2: would have had feeling as great as this moment as
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Speaker 2: he did when he shot those three bullets from the
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Speaker 2: sixth floor window on November twenty second, sixty three. So
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Speaker 2: he thinks Lee Harvey Oswall did it. He thinks the
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Speaker 2: Cubans were behind that. There's a lot going on here
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Speaker 2: and this well, some things I expected to read, Rob.
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Speaker 2: Some thing's surprised me a little bit, but pretty much
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Speaker 2: what I expected. So I'm going to hand it to
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Speaker 2: you for your your rating, sir, You did.
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Speaker 1: Nothing about this book makes sense. So you know when
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Speaker 1: he says Castro is behind it. But Lee Harvey Oswald
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Speaker 1: wasn't alone. Nut that he was working in concert with
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Speaker 1: Cuban intelligence. I'm assuming on behalf of Castro at the
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Speaker 1: behest of Castro. And you just said, you know, he
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Speaker 1: believes Lee Harvey Oswald shot three bullets at Kennedy and
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Speaker 1: killed him. So how is he not alone?
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Speaker 2: Note?
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he thinks Oswald did it. Whether or
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Speaker 1: not Oswald's allegiance was to Castro or not, it doesn't
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Speaker 1: really make sense.
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Speaker 2: It does not.
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Speaker 1: Crime without punishment the title of the book. Well, Lee
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Speaker 1: Harvey Oswald certainly got a punishment, that is true. He
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Speaker 1: got a death sentence, yes, And you know, talking about Castro, well,
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Speaker 1: you know, this country allowed him to live a long, long, long,
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Speaker 1: long life. Okay. You know, we could have taken them
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Speaker 1: out at any point in time, very quickly, very swiftly,
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Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, we chose not to dick around
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Speaker 1: with him. We were okay with communists living ninety miles
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Speaker 1: off our shore, a dictator that treated people like shit,
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Speaker 1: ninety miles off our shore, and apparently we still are
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Speaker 1: okay with that way of living. You know, I watch
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Speaker 1: a lot of YouTube. Yeah, you know, whatever, but I
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Speaker 1: see these influencers. If you will go to Cuba and
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Speaker 1: like actually go around in neighborhoods where people really live,
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Speaker 1: not like the touristy spots, right, and Cuba is a shithole.
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Speaker 1: It is a decaying, crumbling, trash filled shithole unless you're
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Speaker 1: very near certain parts of the tourist industry, like the
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Speaker 1: hotels in Havana, they don't allow local people to stay there,
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Speaker 1: Like you couldn't get a room there if you wanted one.
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Speaker 1: Tourists only a lot of the there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: homelessness and the living conditions there are abhorrent and it's trifling. Man,
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Speaker 1: You know that we allow this so close to us.
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Speaker 1: But back to the book again, I think this was
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Speaker 1: a half asked effort to update Red Friday from nineteen
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Speaker 1: sixty nine. And look, Briga can frame this however you want.
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Speaker 1: But and it's interesting that he said that he never
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Speaker 1: met Joe and Needs because certain people will tell you.
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Speaker 1: But oh no, George, Joe and Needes. You know he
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Speaker 1: spent he spent some time in New Orleans. You know,
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Speaker 1: obviously he would have been meeting with Dre delegate, right,
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Speaker 1: since that's who he's over top of, you think, right,
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Speaker 1: Joe obviously obviously, But apparently not was Joe and Edie
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Speaker 1: ever even in New Orleans? Doubtful? Doubtful. I mean, if
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Speaker 1: he was, you think he would have made contact with
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Speaker 1: Brina and bring a just lying which wouldn't shock me either.
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Speaker 1: But I think Brignia is full of shit on a
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Speaker 1: lot of things. And it certainly seems to me, like
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Speaker 1: I said, Joe, the more we look at this thing,
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Speaker 1: that tight knit friend group of anti Castro Cuban exiles
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Speaker 1: in New Orleans, I think saw an opportunity with Oswald
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Speaker 1: all right to take out Kennedy and also blame it
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Speaker 1: on a Castro supporter. And I think these guys were smart.
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Speaker 1: They were they were calculating, they were very good at
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Speaker 1: planning things, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were
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Speaker 1: the ones behind the assassination. And of course he's not
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Speaker 1: going to come out ever and say that. And apparently
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Speaker 1: he's still on this side of the dirt, Joe at
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Speaker 1: age ninety two, still eleven, still alive allegedly as far
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Speaker 1: as we know at the taping of this book review.
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Speaker 1: So you know, with that being said, you would think
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Speaker 1: and you would hope that after fifty years of reflection,
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Speaker 1: you would get a little bit more, especially as many
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Speaker 1: documents as were released in the nineties and early two thousands,
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Speaker 1: for him to go back and do a little research
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Speaker 1: and revise maybe some things of his conclusions, but no,
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Speaker 1: this book has the exact same conclusion that I did
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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty nine when it was called Red Friday.
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Speaker 1: And I've never been a fan of Carlos Bregnier. I've
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Speaker 1: never trusted or believed anything he's ever said. I think
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Speaker 1: he's a pompa's ass and a right wing scumbagh. With
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Speaker 1: that being said, Joe, I think I'm gonna give this
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Speaker 1: book for what.
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Speaker 2: It is.
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Speaker 1: And what it was A two guns up.
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Speaker 2: Oh all right, sir, Well, you know, I think whatever
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Speaker 2: value that could be ascertained from this book comes into
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Speaker 2: getting into the mind of Carlos.
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Speaker 1: His.
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Speaker 2: Thoughts on communism, his time in Guatemala, Argentina, Miami, New Orleans,
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Speaker 2: you know, some of his thoughts on Garrison investigation. I
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Speaker 2: think if you are really, really, really interested in the
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Speaker 2: Cuban exile angle, there could be some things in here
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Speaker 2: that could be of interest and value to you. But
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Speaker 2: like when we talked about, or when you talked about
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Speaker 2: the previous book on Fabian Escalante right the Cuban Files,
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Speaker 2: last book review, how much can you trust here? Because
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Speaker 2: everyone has their own agendas. He's still you know, on
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Speaker 2: his you know horse about having communists ninety miles off
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Speaker 2: our shore. I feel like he only he almost tries
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Speaker 2: to take like a sympathetic type of a more sympathetic
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Speaker 2: than some Cuban exiles. And maybe people on a jam
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Speaker 2: wave did based on President Kennedy. Now, whether that's trying
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Speaker 2: to balance it out sell copies, I don't know. I
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Speaker 2: haven't been able to really figure that out yet. I
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Speaker 2: do think there are some interesting parts. I think there
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Speaker 2: are some things you can kind of glean from his outlook,
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Speaker 2: you know what was it fifty five almost fifty five
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Speaker 2: years later? But again, how much can you trust? And
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Speaker 2: that's my problem with this, how much can you trust?
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Speaker 2: It seems like a book that's sixty percent propaganda at least.
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Speaker 2: So with that being said, I'm just going to give
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Speaker 2: it a four guns up because if you are interested
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Speaker 2: in bringing a I think it could give you some
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Speaker 2: interesting insights. But then again, what can you really trust
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Speaker 2: about it? Impossible to really tell.
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Speaker 1: But Regenitor the shit starter, because you gotta understand the
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Speaker 1: CRC dissolved in nineteen sixty two, just after the Bay
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Speaker 1: of Pigs after the cup Missile crisis. The CRC kind
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Speaker 1: of goes away, kind of just banned. The dre is
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Speaker 1: formed in the early sixties by the CIA, and Carlos
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Speaker 1: is the only one who wants to keep flying this
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Speaker 1: this flag, right, He's none of the other guys joined
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Speaker 1: the DR. They're all like at this point, I right,
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Speaker 1: fuck it, you know we you know, we try, We're
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Speaker 1: moving on, right. But Carlos is still very idealistic, very
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Speaker 1: opposed to Castro, still very pissed off about everything, still
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Speaker 1: very anti Communist in his ideals, and believes in it
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Speaker 1: enough to become the only DR delegate in New Orleans.
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Speaker 1: That tells me a whole hell of a lot. You know,
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Speaker 1: I can see him stirring his buddy's up very much,
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Speaker 1: especially after the whole Oswald confrontation, you know, getting them
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Speaker 1: all routed up. Man, we got to do something, We
33:42
Speaker 1: got to do something, you know. So I don't know,
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Speaker 1: I just don't know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you. I think there is some,
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Speaker 2: like I said, some value to kind of getting into
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Speaker 2: his head and maybe getting some details. But you don't
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Speaker 2: have to be very very involved in the Cuban exile
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Speaker 2: theory to really try to get some good tibits out
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Speaker 2: of this, and even if so, what can you really trust?
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