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Your Friendly Neighborhood Extraterrestrial · Large Nerdron Collider

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Speaker 1: The Large Nerdrunk Lighter Podcast is a production of I
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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nerd Drunk
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Speaker 1: Collider Podcast, the podcast that's all about the geeky things
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Speaker 1: happening in the world around us and how very excited
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Speaker 1: we are about them. I'm Ariel casting and with me
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Speaker 1: as always is Jonathan will never catch up on all
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Speaker 1: of the geeky media. He hasn't watched yet. Strickland. That
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Speaker 1: is the most apt name you have ever given me,
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Speaker 1: an Ariel for you, I have a question, what is
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Speaker 1: your favorite fictional spaceship the Tartist. Do you really think
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Speaker 1: the Tartest as a spaceship? It's the tardest? I mean, okay,
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Speaker 1: that's fair. I should yes, and I shouldn't deny. Moya
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Speaker 1: interesting okay, cool, alright, I see where you sentient? Yes,
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Speaker 1: say you're going with the sentient spaceships. That's interesting. So
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Speaker 1: you're you're like, you like the spaceships that are kind
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Speaker 1: of characters. Yeah, I mean two thousand and one of
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Speaker 1: Space Odyssey. Aside, like, being alone in space is super sad,
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Speaker 1: so you really want something that can interact with you
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Speaker 1: and keep you company. So for those who don't know
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Speaker 1: Moya is a Leviathan, which is a sentient ship that
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Speaker 1: the crew in the show far Escape travel on Far
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Speaker 1: Scape is a great show. This is this is fascinating
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Speaker 1: to me. It really I did not expect that answer,
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Speaker 1: and it's a really like this one makes me want
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Speaker 1: to jump into a geek conversation, but that's for later
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Speaker 1: in the episode and we're not even talking about spaceships.
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Speaker 1: Then the thing that prompted this was that, you know,
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Speaker 1: NASA landed the Perseverance Rover on Mars recently, so it
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Speaker 1: just got me thinking about spaceships, Um, what is what
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Speaker 1: is your spaceship? Then? So there too, and they're from
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Speaker 1: the two big Star franchises, so from Star Wars. The
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Speaker 1: Tie Interceptor is my Yeah, it's just it looks wicked.
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Speaker 1: But then my favorite Star Trek spaceship is the U. S. S. Reliant,
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Speaker 1: which is the the ship that con flies in the
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Speaker 1: Wrath of Cohn. It's the one that has the disk
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Speaker 1: and the two Nay cells are underneath it, and I
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Speaker 1: always just thought that that was such a cool ship design.
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Speaker 1: It is, but doesn't it make you like a villain
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Speaker 1: just to fly it? I mean Tie Interceptors. My other
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Speaker 1: favorite ones, so like, you know, the bad guys get
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Speaker 1: get really cool spaceships. I mean that's it's not my fault.
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Speaker 1: They s all of their money on R and D
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Speaker 1: and not enough on like therapy. It's it's all on
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Speaker 1: aesthetics and none of it's on shields. That's the real problem.
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Speaker 1: But today we've got a lot of stories to cover
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Speaker 1: and then we have a conversation and then a mash
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Speaker 1: up believe it or not. So I guess like a
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Speaker 1: regular episode. Yeah, it is, well, you know, not like
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Speaker 1: last episode where it was all news. But let's go
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Speaker 1: ahead and jump into the news. Starting with San Diego
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Speaker 1: Comic Con officially announced Monday of the week that we're
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Speaker 1: recording this that they are not having their in person
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Speaker 1: uh convention, at least not at the normal time. They
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Speaker 1: might look at something smaller or different in November. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and this isn't a huge surprise. Also E three and
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Speaker 1: Anime Expo, while they have not as we're recording this,
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Speaker 1: they have not officially come out and said anything, but
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Speaker 1: the city of Los Angeles has no booking for them,
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Speaker 1: and that would have then if they were really going
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Speaker 1: to be happening in person. Um. E three not a
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Speaker 1: big surprise. Actually, I think E three it would. I'll
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Speaker 1: be curious to see if the three ever comes back
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Speaker 1: as a real physical event anyway, because that was already
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Speaker 1: kind of on the fade out before the pandemic hit.
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Speaker 1: You couldn't really go there unless you were media, right, well,
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Speaker 1: you couldn't, But then a couple of years ago they
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Speaker 1: opened it up where they sold tickets to the public.
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Speaker 1: But that meant that if you were media and you
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Speaker 1: were trying to cover the event, it suddenly got much
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Speaker 1: harder to get your hands on anything because there were
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Speaker 1: just so many people there. But E three had been
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Speaker 1: kind of suffering for a while. Uh, and there are
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Speaker 1: a lot of folks in the video game space who
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Speaker 1: think it may not ever come back, not in the
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Speaker 1: form that it used to have, especially since a lot
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Speaker 1: of these companies have found it easier to hold their
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Speaker 1: own press events. They're not, you know, beholden to a
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Speaker 1: specific schedule or anything. And Anime Expo they haven't announced anything,
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Speaker 1: but they did do a virtual event last year, so
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Speaker 1: chances are we're going to see something like that again
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Speaker 1: this year. Personally, while I totally understand how it's a
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Speaker 1: bummer if you were really hoping to go to one
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Speaker 1: of these things. I think it's the best idea to have,
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Speaker 1: because we are not, by any stretch of the imagination,
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Speaker 1: out of the woods, as far as COVID is concerned.
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Speaker 1: So we understand the bummer, But I think that this
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Speaker 1: was the right call. I do as well. You know,
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Speaker 1: if if we do it virtual this year, hopefully by
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Speaker 1: next year we'll be we'll be back to in person
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Speaker 1: at least for a comic con. I know that, you know,
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Speaker 1: people really like having that camaraderie of being in the
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Speaker 1: convention hall and dressing up and all that. Not. It's
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Speaker 1: not nearly a socialist dragon con. We've gone over that before.
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Speaker 1: So I will digress, and we'll move on to um
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Speaker 1: our next bit of news, which is all of the
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Speaker 1: trailers ever, well not all. We picked a few trailers
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Speaker 1: that came out this week that we liked. We got
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Speaker 1: we got a whole convoy of trailers. Con convoy, Okay,
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Speaker 1: yes we do. And the first one is Army of
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Speaker 1: the Dead, which both Jonathan and I separately watched and said, huh,
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Speaker 1: this looks like Dead Rising, the movie. I mean, it
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Speaker 1: really does. Like I didn't even see your note when
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Speaker 1: and so I had just turned it on and watched it,
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Speaker 1: and I thought, is this actually Dead Rising instead of
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Speaker 1: another of the Dead series. So Snyder had previously done
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Speaker 1: the remake of Dawn of the Dead, which is the
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Speaker 1: one that's set in the shopping mall, and now he
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Speaker 1: just decided, what if we do that again, but you
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Speaker 1: know bigger and said it in Las Vegas, and so
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Speaker 1: Army of the Dead takes place in Sin City, Las Vegas.
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Speaker 1: And it does look like it looks like Dead Rising.
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Speaker 1: It does, honestly though, it looks so I'm surprise, surprise.
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Speaker 1: I never watched DNA the Dead. I know I need to.
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Speaker 1: I need to watch You need to watch the original
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Speaker 1: Dawn of the Dead. The second Don of the Dead
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Speaker 1: is the remake isn't necessarily bad, It just kind of
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Speaker 1: it kind of turns everything into an action movie as
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Speaker 1: opposed to like a social commentary movie. I didn't even
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Speaker 1: watch even Dead until the last ten years, so but
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Speaker 1: it is on my list. You know, I do feel
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Speaker 1: like that is a piece of media that I just
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Speaker 1: I am lacking having not watched it. Um but this
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Speaker 1: looks kind of tongue in cheek, and I the trailer
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Speaker 1: makes me want to watch it. And so you know,
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Speaker 1: after we we talk about Zax, and after Jonathan and
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Speaker 1: I have have been less and excited about the Zack
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Speaker 1: Snyder Justice League. Uh cut, you know, I'm I'm happy
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Speaker 1: to be excited about something that he's working on coming out.
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Speaker 1: He really does great visuals and action scenes and all that,
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Speaker 1: and this movie will really bode well for that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it looks like it's going to have some very entertaining
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Speaker 1: visuals in it. I am not yet sold on it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I like a lot of the people who
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Speaker 1: are in it, but I'm not yet sold on it.
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Speaker 1: I'll have to wait and look for another trailer. I
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Speaker 1: gotta say. It definitely was better than one of the
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Speaker 1: other trailers you sent me that we aren't talking about,
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Speaker 1: which is called The Rookies. Uh. If you do want
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Speaker 1: to watch the Rookies trailer, just watch that. You know,
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Speaker 1: like we we aren't going to cover it, but it
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Speaker 1: you have to see it to really appreciate how bad
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Speaker 1: it looks. Yes, yes, well, um, maybe I'll add that
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Speaker 1: in our show notes as a bonus on our episode
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Speaker 1: All right, So the next trailer we've got to talk
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Speaker 1: about his shadow and bone and this is There was
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Speaker 1: a teaser that came out a while ago for it
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Speaker 1: that really showed absolutely nothing, and I was like, Oh,
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Speaker 1: another y a fantasy, blah blah. But this trailer actually
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Speaker 1: looks pretty good to me. Uh yeah, you know it's
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Speaker 1: it's based off of book series, and I have never
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Speaker 1: read the book series, so I came into this not
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Speaker 1: knowing anything about what it was, what I should expect
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Speaker 1: to see. But the visuals were really interesting. And moreover,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you scrolled down to look at
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Speaker 1: any of the comments, I was curious, but the comments
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Speaker 1: I saw were really positive, Like people who were big
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Speaker 1: fans of the books seemed genuinely excited by the trailer
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Speaker 1: and seem to feel like it is capturing what made
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Speaker 1: them love the books. And to me, that is the
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Speaker 1: best praise you can give any adaptation. I agree, you know,
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Speaker 1: I like I like the cast in it. I it
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Speaker 1: looks like a take on the classic good light versus
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Speaker 1: dark theme. Um, but now it just looks it looks
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Speaker 1: like a fun fantasy to jump into. Uh. Also super
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Speaker 1: fun the trailer for Luca. Yeah, I so I forgot
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Speaker 1: that this was going to be a thing. It's a
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Speaker 1: Pixar film, and Luca like it starts off showing a
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Speaker 1: young boy making friends with others in Italy and having
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Speaker 1: little like childhood adventures, and at first you just figured like,
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Speaker 1: this is gonna be like a fun little child adventure
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Speaker 1: coming of age kind of story until there's a big
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Speaker 1: twist in the middle of the trailer that I was
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Speaker 1: not expecting. So I was very surprised, and that thought, Oh,
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Speaker 1: so it is a Pixar movie. Yeah, so the middle
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Speaker 1: of the trailer spoiler if you don't watch the trailer,
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Speaker 1: if they turned into like amphibian mer people, which made
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Speaker 1: my little aerial heart squee and my little my not
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Speaker 1: so little aerial mouth squee as well out loud. Um.
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Speaker 1: It just it looks obviously there's got to be some
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Speaker 1: sort of um conflict in this movie, but it just
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Speaker 1: looks so fun. Yeah. The trailer does seem to indicate
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Speaker 1: that the people of the little Italian village have a
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Speaker 1: a a hard um uh hatred of see monster ish things,
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Speaker 1: and so the two boys clearly are trying to hide
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Speaker 1: as humans while they explore their little adventures up on
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Speaker 1: the shore. Um and of course, if they get hit
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Speaker 1: by water. Then they immediately and I mean instantaneously transform. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's like uh splash on speed. Um it looks cute.
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Speaker 1: It does now maybe it'll be maybe it'll have a
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Speaker 1: super dark turn. I mean the theme song is uh
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Speaker 1: you Are My Sunshine, which is remarkably peppy and dark.
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Speaker 1: So yes, uh something else that looks peppy and dark
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Speaker 1: in a hilarious way. This was something that the Ariel
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Speaker 1: sent me a link to a couple of days ago.
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Speaker 1: I want to say, and said that you I absolutely
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Speaker 1: had to watch it, but I did not watch it
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Speaker 1: until just working on this episode. It's the trailer for
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Speaker 1: Modoc Modoc being a villain in Uh in Marvel. This
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Speaker 1: is the more traditional version of boat dock, which look
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Speaker 1: like a big floating head with lead to media arms
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Speaker 1: and leggs poking out like an angry marshmallow, voiced by
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Speaker 1: Patton Oswalt. Uh you know what it really reminded me of.
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Speaker 1: It reminded me of Robot Chicken a lot. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: well it is stop animation, and you know it's I
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Speaker 1: don't know, it's it is dark. It's on Hulu. It's
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Speaker 1: not on Disney Plus. Despite being a Marvel property. Um,
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't look it looks the right amount of
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Speaker 1: adult cheeky for me. Like, it doesn't look like it's
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Speaker 1: trying to be too edgy, not like not always sunny
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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia level of edgy, just just edgy enough to
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Speaker 1: be adult humor. Um. And it's Patton Oswald, So um,
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Speaker 1: I'm all about it. Yeah. No, it looks like it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be pretty funny, very very much in the style
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Speaker 1: of like we were saying, Robot Chicken. I think about
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Speaker 1: whenever Robot Chicken does an episode in which there's like,
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Speaker 1: um uh Cobra Commander or skeletor, it's kind of that
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Speaker 1: version of a villain. So yeah, yeah. And our last
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Speaker 1: piece of news is that there's a new Superman movie
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Speaker 1: coming out. Um, maybe one that Jonathan can finally get behind.
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Speaker 1: Yeah this one. I saw the news and thought it
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Speaker 1: was really interesting. And it's a a version of Superman
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Speaker 1: that would be produced by J. J. Abrams, which could
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Speaker 1: go either way for me. I like some of Abram's
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Speaker 1: work and some of the others I'm not so crazy about.
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Speaker 1: They've got Tom Nahassy Coats writing the screenplay. Uh, as
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Speaker 1: we're recording this, there's no director yet attached to it,
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Speaker 1: but it has raised a lot of speculation as to
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Speaker 1: what this is actually gonna be like for um, you know,
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Speaker 1: in the in the DC universe. First of all, I
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Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be connected to the d
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Speaker 1: C EU stuff like Justice League. It might be more
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Speaker 1: like a Joker type movie, yeah, but hopefully a lot
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Speaker 1: more positive. Yes, I really do think, like, like, in
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Speaker 1: my opinion, that actually ends up being a plus for
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Speaker 1: this project in that DC has already established that it's
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Speaker 1: making a lot of films that don't connect directly into
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Speaker 1: the overarching storyline. So, um, I think that's okay. I
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Speaker 1: mean it really should be the d C E M
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Speaker 1: you which is the multiverse extended multiverse. So what I
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Speaker 1: hope to see from this is a version of Superman
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Speaker 1: that is, you know, heroic and inspirational. And one of
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Speaker 1: the the rumors has been that there's a great possibility
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Speaker 1: at they will be making a um this with a
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Speaker 1: black actor playing Superman, so we would get a black Superman,
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Speaker 1: and to me, that's really exciting. It's really an interesting
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Speaker 1: idea to take that approach and create a heroic character
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Speaker 1: that an entire section of the population has never been
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Speaker 1: able to see portraying Superman playing that role and being
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Speaker 1: truly inspirational. I think that has a lot of opportunities
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Speaker 1: to it. Now, there are a couple of black Superman's
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Speaker 1: in d C already. Calvin Ellis is one, Valsada is another.
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Speaker 1: There's a third who I can't remember, so I do
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Speaker 1: know that. There's also a rumor that Michael B. Jordan's
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Speaker 1: has stated an interest in playing Calvin Ellis in the past,
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Speaker 1: so I would be happy to see that casting. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that would be really that would be really interesting too.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to learn more about this particular version
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Speaker 1: of Superman. Uh. It really does have me looking forward
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Speaker 1: to it. I'm hopeful that it will be a more
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Speaker 1: coherent story than some of the other DC movies we've
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Speaker 1: we've seen. Like the first Wonder Woman was pretty good, um,
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Speaker 1: apart from the third act, which I thought kind of
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Speaker 1: fell apart. The Second Wonder Woman was not as good
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Speaker 1: in my opinion. Aquaman was entertaining, but also kind of
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Speaker 1: a messy film. I want to see a good, tight,
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Speaker 1: inspirational story. Yeah, hopefully J. J. Abrams will go closer
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Speaker 1: to Star Wars or Marvel and less towards Lost agreed,
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Speaker 1: And on that note, I think it's time for us
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Speaker 1: to take a quick break. Okay, now it's time for
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Speaker 1: our conversation. And this is one that you kind of
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Speaker 1: had sort of sitting waiting for us to to dive into,
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Speaker 1: because it was one of those early topics that we
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Speaker 1: said we should tackle at some point, and it's about
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Speaker 1: darker video games and games that that in particular ask
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Speaker 1: you the player to do some pretty nefarious and dark
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Speaker 1: stuff and how does that make you feel as a player. So, first, Aerial,
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Speaker 1: do you ever play any games where you're playing either
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Speaker 1: as a character who has to do some pretty questionable
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Speaker 1: things or is outright a bad guy? Uh? So it's
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Speaker 1: no surprise that I've played Mass Effect and you do
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Speaker 1: have the option of taking noble choices or kind of
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Speaker 1: nefarious choices. Um, you kind of end in the same
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Speaker 1: place regardless, but your journey there is different. I tend
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Speaker 1: to with those usually unless it's something that really speaks
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Speaker 1: to my barbarian heart. Pick the neutral or the the
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Speaker 1: positive choice as opposed to the negative, darker choice. But
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Speaker 1: I will say that, um, I've played a whole bunch
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Speaker 1: of the Star Wars RPG Knights of the Old Republic,
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Speaker 1: I think, and um, I have like five light side
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Speaker 1: and five dark side characters. Like it's I like, I
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Speaker 1: like playing the gamut there, but there's also it's also
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Speaker 1: very fantasy and sci fi. It's not um very real
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Speaker 1: life stakes. I think with games that are are closer
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Speaker 1: to reality, I like playing the good guy. I don't
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Speaker 1: there's enough darkness in the world. I don't like playing villains.
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Speaker 1: What about you, Jonathan, Mr, I'd fly a villain spaceship.
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Speaker 1: It's really interesting that you said that because Knights of
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Speaker 1: the Old Republic was actually one of the games I
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Speaker 1: was going to cite as one where I physically feel
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Speaker 1: bad when I play on the dark side, like I've
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Speaker 1: I tried to do it to get achievements and stuff,
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Speaker 1: but I didn't like it. Uh, Knights the Old Republic
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Speaker 1: actually has a thing. It's kind of like Fable to
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Speaker 1: Fable had this same sort of mechanic where your character's
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Speaker 1: appearance changes as you go further to one extreme or
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Speaker 1: the other. So the more to the light side you go,
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Speaker 1: the more you kind of get this ethereal glow about you.
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Speaker 1: The more to the dark side you go, you get
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Speaker 1: like these nasty looking veins on your face and you
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Speaker 1: are glowing red and that kind of stuff. And moreover,
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Speaker 1: I mean, apart from the aesthetics, you obviously have to
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Speaker 1: make choices that lead you down these pathways. And even
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Speaker 1: though it's fantasy, even though it's Star Wars, even though
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Speaker 1: I like the bad guys spaceships, I didn't like having
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Speaker 1: to make bad choices. Uh. It's very weird because it
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Speaker 1: depends on the game. Um. For instance, I'm playing through
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Speaker 1: the Hitman series. They the more recent Hitman series. I've
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Speaker 1: been playing through that. Now you could argue, yeah, all
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Speaker 1: your targets are bad people like you are being your
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Speaker 1: sent out to get them, but the game also goes
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Speaker 1: to great links to explain these are bad people. They're
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Speaker 1: like human traffickers or their you know, weapons dealers or whatever.
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Speaker 1: So you don't feel as badly about executing them in
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Speaker 1: increasingly over the top ways. But you should feel a
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Speaker 1: little bit. You should. I mean, the character you're playing
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Speaker 1: is a sociopath. He has no emotion whatsoever, so you
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Speaker 1: know you're But it's kind of weird to play in
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Speaker 1: that because I mean, obviously I have emotions. There are
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Speaker 1: times in hit Man where either something I'll do will
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Speaker 1: go wrong and I'll accidentally kill someone besides my target
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Speaker 1: and I feel terrible, even though it's just a fake character, right,
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Speaker 1: Or I kill my target in such a visceral way
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Speaker 1: that I flinch, Right, even though it's not like over
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Speaker 1: the top gruesome and gory, I still have that react. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And one of the reasons I wanted to bring this
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Speaker 1: up is that, so the Last of Us is a
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Speaker 1: game where you you have to make some pretty tough choices,
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Speaker 1: and in fact, some of them aren't even up to
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Speaker 1: your choice, and the Last of Us, the Last of
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Speaker 1: Us is just pretty tough period, right, Yeah. I mean
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Speaker 1: like there, there's the ending of the first game has
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Speaker 1: the main character makes a decision that you don't really
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Speaker 1: get a hand in, not really, and um, and it's gruesome.
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Speaker 1: But then that's what precipitates all the action of The
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Speaker 1: Last of Us Part two. And I'm not going to
21:40
Speaker 1: get into all of the Last of Us two, like
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Speaker 1: all the story or anything. But something that I found
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Speaker 1: really difficult to handle with the Last of Us two
21:50
Speaker 1: is that the messaging seemed to be that violence and
21:54
Speaker 1: revenge begets more violence and revenge, and it becomes this
21:59
Speaker 1: self actuating cycle and that it's trying to teach you.
22:03
Speaker 1: The lesson of this is you know this, this pathway
22:09
Speaker 1: is destructive and it leads to more misery, but it
22:13
Speaker 1: never gives you the option to not follow that pathway,
22:18
Speaker 1: and and and these games get pretty graphic too. Yeah yeah,
22:21
Speaker 1: but see, for me, it's not even so much the
22:23
Speaker 1: graphic as it is, is it. It's the basic ethics
22:26
Speaker 1: and morality. Right If if the point of the game
22:30
Speaker 1: is to say violence is not the answer, but it
22:34
Speaker 1: forces you to commit the violent acts in order to
22:37
Speaker 1: progress the story, then the game is guilty of making
22:41
Speaker 1: you do the thing that the game says is bad, right,
22:44
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't give you the freedom to say, Okay,
22:48
Speaker 1: let's figure out a different approach, Like, you don't have
22:51
Speaker 1: that freedom. You have to learn the lesson even if
22:54
Speaker 1: you already know the lesson, and that to me is problematic.
22:58
Speaker 1: I don't even like games where you so like Fallout,
23:04
Speaker 1: which is a lot less dire than Last of Us.
23:08
Speaker 1: There are certain quest lines that you know you can say,
23:11
Speaker 1: I'm always going to make the right choice, but then
23:13
Speaker 1: you can't complete that quest if you don't make a
23:14
Speaker 1: wrong choice. I just I don't like the game dictating
23:17
Speaker 1: my character's morality to me. Um. It's kind of why
23:21
Speaker 1: I don't play Grand Theft Auto is because I feel
23:23
Speaker 1: like there's already a morality that's dictated to me just
23:27
Speaker 1: by starting to play the game. I know there are
23:28
Speaker 1: lots of great people who play the game. I just
23:30
Speaker 1: don't like the content. Well, I mean, you make a
23:32
Speaker 1: great point though, because Grand Theft Auto in the fifth game,
23:36
Speaker 1: there is a sequence that you have to do. It's
23:39
Speaker 1: part of the storyline where you're playing a character who
23:43
Speaker 1: has to torture someone, and you don't have an option
23:46
Speaker 1: in this I mean the options you do have is
23:49
Speaker 1: that you have to choose two out of three possible
23:52
Speaker 1: torture methods, but all three are terrible. So you you're
23:57
Speaker 1: watching as the character you're playing, you know, you get
24:01
Speaker 1: to choose which of the three you're gonna use next
24:04
Speaker 1: on this this other character who hasn't done any thing wrong,
24:09
Speaker 1: they just happen to know some information. Um. And then
24:13
Speaker 1: do you go through and torture and again you're playing
24:16
Speaker 1: a character who just is more or less not a sociopath,
24:19
Speaker 1: he's a psychopath. You're playing a character who is a psychopath. Um.
24:23
Speaker 1: But I hated that section, and maybe that was the point,
24:27
Speaker 1: was to kind of like to take away the element
24:33
Speaker 1: of using torture as entertainment. I felt kind of similar.
24:37
Speaker 1: This isn't a video game, but I felt kind of
24:39
Speaker 1: similar whenever I would watch twenty four, because inevitably, in
24:44
Speaker 1: every season of twenty four, there was a point where
24:47
Speaker 1: the main character, Jack Bauer would end up torturing someone
24:51
Speaker 1: in order to get information because he just didn't have
24:54
Speaker 1: the time. I mean, obviously, it's only got twenty four hours,
24:57
Speaker 1: it's in the name of the show, but like it
25:00
Speaker 1: was somehow presenting that as an acceptable means of getting information,
25:06
Speaker 1: and that always gave me a horrible, ikey feeling. I
25:10
Speaker 1: get the same feeling when I play these games. So
25:13
Speaker 1: and again I'm not I'm not passing judgment on people
25:16
Speaker 1: who love to play these games. It's more that I
25:19
Speaker 1: find it interesting that, you know, I have this very
25:23
Speaker 1: visceral reaction two games that force you to make these choices,
25:28
Speaker 1: um to the point where like, there are games that
25:31
Speaker 1: I stopped playing and I never finished because I was like,
25:35
Speaker 1: I don't like the way I feel when I play this.
25:37
Speaker 1: I have a limited number of hours I can dedicate
25:40
Speaker 1: to things like playing games, and I play games in
25:43
Speaker 1: order to have a good time. Yeah yeah, same, Like
25:46
Speaker 1: there are so many kinds of games because they're just
25:48
Speaker 1: so many kinds of so many people like so many
25:50
Speaker 1: different kinds of storytelling. Right. So, and then there are
25:52
Speaker 1: some people who play games for the mechanics. I don't
25:55
Speaker 1: play games for the mechanics. I play games for the story.
25:57
Speaker 1: And while I want an emotional journey, I want a
26:01
Speaker 1: release from real life when I'm playing a video game. Usually, um,
26:06
Speaker 1: and so things things even like Call of Duty or
26:09
Speaker 1: Division or stuff like that. You know, well, they're perfectly
26:12
Speaker 1: fine games. And I really some people prefer fiction to
26:15
Speaker 1: science fiction. Um, I'm just not one of them totally.
26:20
Speaker 1: And you know, there's some games out there that really
26:23
Speaker 1: make morality a central part of the game. The example
26:27
Speaker 1: I'm put in our notes was Ultimate four. Ultimate four
26:30
Speaker 1: is a game where if you aren't trying to be
26:34
Speaker 1: as close to perfect as you possibly can be, you
26:37
Speaker 1: literally cannot win the game because you have to be
26:40
Speaker 1: the avatar that represents uh these I believe they are
26:44
Speaker 1: eight virtues, and if you if you end up taking shortcuts,
26:50
Speaker 1: you literally can't complete the game because you aren't upholding
26:55
Speaker 1: that virtue, and some of the virtues actually have a
26:59
Speaker 1: little bit of a con like with each other, so
27:00
Speaker 1: it's a little tricky to navigate, but that's the whole point.
27:04
Speaker 1: And I thought that was fascinating that the game made
27:07
Speaker 1: that a central mechanic, that it was bucking the trend.
27:12
Speaker 1: Because at the time when Ultimate four came out, most
27:16
Speaker 1: computer role playing games I didn't really care if you
27:20
Speaker 1: played it like you were the Virtuous Night or if
27:24
Speaker 1: you were a raving psychopath just slaughtering towns like the
27:28
Speaker 1: game didn't didn't register that as being better or worse
27:32
Speaker 1: or different. So it was a very new approach to games.
27:37
Speaker 1: And we've seen a lot of that since then. But
27:40
Speaker 1: I am curious about our listeners if if you guys
27:43
Speaker 1: play games, are there games where you actually enjoy playing
27:46
Speaker 1: the bad guy? Again, I'm not judging, it's just I tried,
27:50
Speaker 1: like I just can't. The closest I can get our
27:54
Speaker 1: games like Tie Fighter, where I am playing a bad
27:57
Speaker 1: guy technically, but I'm shooting spaceships. I'm not sure I'm
28:00
Speaker 1: not being terrible to people. Now. It is interesting because
28:04
Speaker 1: when I LARP, I really enjoy and when I act,
28:07
Speaker 1: I love playing bad guys because from a from an
28:11
Speaker 1: acting perspective, it's there. They tend to have a lot
28:15
Speaker 1: more intricacies and odd twists and turns. But I don't
28:19
Speaker 1: I don't know what that line is for me. Same here, Granted,
28:23
Speaker 1: like when I play a villain, I typically am playing
28:25
Speaker 1: a villain in a comedic context. So it's not just
28:30
Speaker 1: that I'm a bad guy. I'm a silly bad guy,
28:33
Speaker 1: and those I like playing those a lot. I don't
28:36
Speaker 1: know how good I would be at playing like a
28:39
Speaker 1: dramatic villain. Maybe something Shakespearean, probably not as far as Iago,
28:45
Speaker 1: maybe don John, you know, Iago like that. I can
28:48
Speaker 1: maybe do that. I can. But while we debate on
28:53
Speaker 1: which villains we should play in our next theatrical production,
28:57
Speaker 1: whenever that can happen, we were good, We're gonna take
29:00
Speaker 1: a quick break and come back with a super special
29:04
Speaker 1: mash up. Ariel pitch Uh. You want to explain not
29:29
Speaker 1: just which two properties were bashing up, but why these
29:34
Speaker 1: two properties the lords were meshed up. Sure, So, right
29:38
Speaker 1: after we recorded last week's episode, as is always the case,
29:43
Speaker 1: the cast of Spider Man came out and started posting
29:47
Speaker 1: some pictures from set and some possible titles for Spider
29:51
Speaker 1: Man three. Uh so there was spider Man Home Wreck
29:56
Speaker 1: or is that it spider Man Phone Home, spider Man
30:01
Speaker 1: Home Slice, spider Man Home which is a pizza place
30:05
Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas, Like yeah, yeah, so of course we
30:10
Speaker 1: knew next day we were going to get the actual
30:12
Speaker 1: tighter title, which is Spider Man No Way Home. But
30:16
Speaker 1: Ambling came back and said, hey, Marvel, we've already done
30:20
Speaker 1: this with the phone Home thing, um, and that was
30:24
Speaker 1: really funny. And then somebody made a poster of Spider
30:26
Speaker 1: Man and Et touching a finger and I said, well,
30:28
Speaker 1: this is an easy mash up for the next week,
30:30
Speaker 1: and so that's what we're doing. And just a quick
30:33
Speaker 1: side note, something else that is related to this sort
30:36
Speaker 1: of is that Sam Ramy is directing the next uh
30:40
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange movie, and obviously the Spider Man movie is
30:43
Speaker 1: gonna have some multiverse components to it, which this title
30:47
Speaker 1: release was kind of a nod to that. But Sam
30:51
Speaker 1: Ramy also is well, really well known for his collaborations
30:55
Speaker 1: with Bruce Campbell, the actor, and Bruce Campbell showed up
30:58
Speaker 1: in the Spider Man movies that Sam Raimi directed. Now
31:02
Speaker 1: it sounds like Bruce Campbell is hinting that he shot
31:06
Speaker 1: a sequence for the Doctor Strange movie. So again with
31:10
Speaker 1: the multiverse stuff, this all makes sense. Maybe we're gonna
31:13
Speaker 1: see one of Bruce Campbell's mini characters that he's played
31:16
Speaker 1: in the Spider Man series show up in Doctor Strange.
31:19
Speaker 1: Maybe it'll be a totally new one. But yeah, we
31:22
Speaker 1: thought that that was a fun little news item too.
31:25
Speaker 1: But that leads us to our mashup of E. T
31:29
Speaker 1: and uh spider Man. So for those who don't know,
31:33
Speaker 1: In case you haven't seen et classic Spielberg movie, A,
31:38
Speaker 1: an alien comes down to Earth. He is particularly interested
31:42
Speaker 1: in plants, very peaceful alien. He's he's collecting samples from
31:47
Speaker 1: Earth to return to his home planet. He gets stranded
31:52
Speaker 1: and a little boy named Elliott finds him, befriends him,
31:56
Speaker 1: and then they have their little adventures together. And it's
32:00
Speaker 1: a very sweet movie that made me cry so hard
32:04
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. Same same Uh. We've got
32:08
Speaker 1: an entire episode of our old podcast The Brink where
32:11
Speaker 1: we talked about griest pieces uh, which worked their way
32:14
Speaker 1: into that movie. But that's another story for another time.
32:17
Speaker 1: If you aren't familiar with Spider Man, um, why are
32:20
Speaker 1: you listening to this podcast for yes, but you know
32:24
Speaker 1: kid gets usually a kid usually gets bit by a
32:26
Speaker 1: radioactive spider. Usually his uncle dies and he fights Christ.
32:30
Speaker 1: There's so many versions, uh so I think I am
32:33
Speaker 1: going to opt for you to go first. This okay,
32:36
Speaker 1: Well that worked out well for us last week. Here
32:39
Speaker 1: we go. This one is spider Man Phone Home. They
32:43
Speaker 1: already gave me the title, all right. Peter Parker has
32:47
Speaker 1: a problem. He's a geeky, unpopular kid in high school.
32:51
Speaker 1: He navigates a complex social world filled with bullies, popularity
32:55
Speaker 1: obsessed teens, and apathetic teachers who have been worn down
32:59
Speaker 1: by the system. Plus, his parents died in a plane
33:02
Speaker 1: crash a few years back, and now he lives with
33:04
Speaker 1: his aunt and uncle, May and Ben. On a high
33:07
Speaker 1: school field trip to Norman Osborne Science Lab, Peter gets
33:11
Speaker 1: separated from his class after he takes a closer look
33:14
Speaker 1: at a high energy physics experiment where a certain spider
33:18
Speaker 1: happens to be trying to catch up to his class.
33:21
Speaker 1: The young Mr Parker accidentally goes into a highly restricted
33:25
Speaker 1: laboratory where he sees something astounding. Laying on the table
33:29
Speaker 1: is a squat gray creature and has a big head,
33:33
Speaker 1: long neck, rather stubby body, very long arms and fingers,
33:37
Speaker 1: short legs, big feet. Before he could even process what
33:40
Speaker 1: it is he's seeing, he hears people in the hall
33:42
Speaker 1: outside panicking. He ducks behind the table in walks. Norman
33:47
Speaker 1: Osbourne barking orders its scientists to hurry up and prep
33:50
Speaker 1: for an alien dissection. Parker, horrified, makes a snap decision.
33:55
Speaker 1: As soon as the coast is clear, he frees the
33:58
Speaker 1: weird alien critter. He looks for a way to smuggle
34:01
Speaker 1: the little guy out of the building, quickly helping him
34:04
Speaker 1: into a mail cart and covering the little guy with mail.
34:08
Speaker 1: Little does he know, however, that the mail cart had
34:11
Speaker 1: just passed through that high energy lab, and in that
34:15
Speaker 1: lab was that spider which absorbed a tremendous amount of energy.
34:18
Speaker 1: And now that spider was also in the same mail cart. Parker,
34:23
Speaker 1: pushing the cart and keeping his head down, is able
34:25
Speaker 1: to maneuver through the labs pretty well. Most people don't
34:28
Speaker 1: even bother to look at him twice. But just as
34:30
Speaker 1: he gets the lobby, he hears an odd little voice
34:33
Speaker 1: from inside the mail cart. Ahch We flash into the
34:39
Speaker 1: cart and see that the spider has bitten the little
34:41
Speaker 1: alien right on the end of his glowing finger. The
34:44
Speaker 1: spider crawls away and the little alien, overwhelmed, loses consciousness.
34:49
Speaker 1: Parker meanwhile explains that he stubbed his toe to some
34:52
Speaker 1: concerned Osborne Lab employees who heard the ouch, and he
34:56
Speaker 1: just tries to shrug it off. He makes his way
34:58
Speaker 1: outside and ditches the rest of his school day pushing
35:01
Speaker 1: the cart across town to get back to Queens, which
35:04
Speaker 1: admittedly does take the rest of the day. He's not
35:08
Speaker 1: back at his aunt and uncle's place until nightfall. He
35:11
Speaker 1: quietly manages to smuggle the alien into his home and
35:14
Speaker 1: learns from the alien that his name is apparently e T.
35:19
Speaker 1: He also learns that the alien has a particular craving
35:22
Speaker 1: for Reese's pieces. Parker is up all night stressing about
35:25
Speaker 1: what he has done. He knows Osborne is going to
35:28
Speaker 1: be furious, and he hopes that no one tracks the
35:30
Speaker 1: alien napping back to him, and finally he falls asleep.
35:35
Speaker 1: The next morning, Parker wakes up to the alien standing
35:38
Speaker 1: on the ceiling. Little guy seems confused. He's also shooting
35:42
Speaker 1: webs everywhere. Parker tries to keep the situation contained, but
35:46
Speaker 1: it's pretty chaotic. Et meanwhile, has discovered some interesting properties
35:51
Speaker 1: of his own. Now he can not only heal organisms,
35:55
Speaker 1: he can also wall crawl. He is much stronger than
35:58
Speaker 1: he was before, and he can it's danger Parker convinces
36:02
Speaker 1: Et to chill out in his house while he goes
36:05
Speaker 1: to school. He gets addressing down from his science teacher
36:08
Speaker 1: for having disappeared on a field trip, but he just
36:11
Speaker 1: keeps his head down. He's distracted. He's eager to get
36:14
Speaker 1: back and figure out what to do about Et. And
36:16
Speaker 1: when he finally does get home, something amazing happens. In
36:20
Speaker 1: his aunt and uncle's house is a man that Parker recognizes,
36:24
Speaker 1: Tony Stark. Somehow, Stark has learned about the alien at
36:29
Speaker 1: Osborne's lab, and moreover, has managed to figure out that
36:32
Speaker 1: Parker was the one who helped the alien escape. He's
36:36
Speaker 1: charming May and Ben waiting for Parker to get home,
36:39
Speaker 1: explaining that the young man has earned a grant from
36:41
Speaker 1: Stark Enterprises. But it's all an excuse to go at
36:44
Speaker 1: to Parker's room, where Stark meets Et. And that's when
36:48
Speaker 1: we get the scene we've all been waiting for. Stark
36:51
Speaker 1: recruits Et into the Avengers, and Et becomes Spider Alien,
36:56
Speaker 1: complete with a suit that doesn't fit so well because
37:00
Speaker 1: let's be honest, dude's got a pretty weird shape to him.
37:03
Speaker 1: Stark and the Alien make their goodbyes and leave Parker behind,
37:06
Speaker 1: though he does get the grant, and moreover, his uncle
37:09
Speaker 1: never stopped that awful robber, so he he gets to live.
37:13
Speaker 1: Parker goes on to be a distinguished scientist and lives
37:15
Speaker 1: a relatively normal life. He also turns on his heart
37:19
Speaker 1: light the end. I loved that. That was so delightful
37:23
Speaker 1: and uplifting compared to some of your previous Yeah, no,
37:26
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I mean, like, there's
37:28
Speaker 1: so many other terrible ways I could have ended that, right, So,
37:32
Speaker 1: and I had a couple of different ideas, but like
37:34
Speaker 1: my original idea was was very different. But I want
37:36
Speaker 1: to hear yours. Sure, well, that was an origin story
37:39
Speaker 1: and this is more of like um ongoing adventure. So
37:45
Speaker 1: I apologize everybody in advance. This is the heroic duo
37:48
Speaker 1: of Spider Man and Little Guy in the Saga of
37:51
Speaker 1: Auto Octavius. It's Earth six one six and Peter Parker
37:56
Speaker 1: is at his wits end. Docc has stolen a clone
37:59
Speaker 1: of his body again. En you see dot Cox once
38:02
Speaker 1: cheated death when being returned to his timeline after a
38:04
Speaker 1: battle with a group called the Inheritors by housing his
38:06
Speaker 1: consciousness in an octopot and taking over Peter Parker's body,
38:09
Speaker 1: and Peter was able to push him out and not
38:11
Speaker 1: I went into a living brain and then cloned bodies, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
38:14
Speaker 1: It's too much unpack here, so I digress. Anyhow, each
38:17
Speaker 1: time Dot Doc showed up in a new body, he
38:19
Speaker 1: was more and more erratic, and Peter's webs leeing ways
38:22
Speaker 1: were just not working. So Peter decided to take a
38:25
Speaker 1: completely different tactic to fight Dot Cock and play mind
38:29
Speaker 1: games back. So to do so, he hacked into dock
38:31
Speaker 1: ox psych profile and learned that Auto Octavius that's Dot
38:35
Speaker 1: Dock for the lay person was originally named Elliott Tolliver Thompson.
38:40
Speaker 1: He started having behavioral problems around the age of ten
38:43
Speaker 1: after a classified encounter with some government agency code named
38:48
Speaker 1: keys happened, eventually changing his alias and moving to New York.
38:55
Speaker 1: He changed his name from Elliott Octavious in case that
38:58
Speaker 1: wasn't clear. After hacking a little bit further Peter Lune
39:01
Speaker 1: that Elliott had developed an empathic connection with an extraterrestrial
39:05
Speaker 1: or ET, and he helped Et escape the government agency,
39:08
Speaker 1: but ever since then his mental health had been on
39:10
Speaker 1: the decline. Peter decided the only way to fix this
39:13
Speaker 1: was to use his resources at Parker Corps to send
39:16
Speaker 1: a distress signal to all the quadrants of all the
39:18
Speaker 1: Loon galaxies and try to call Et back to Earth.
39:21
Speaker 1: He left specific coordinates for where Et should meet him,
39:24
Speaker 1: and as a peace offering, left a large bowl of
39:26
Speaker 1: Reese's Peace. Oh man, dang it. He ate all of
39:28
Speaker 1: his pieces on Stark's jet. Oh yeah, left. Now we're
39:31
Speaker 1: Mary Janes the candy, not the drug. Well, hopefully one
39:37
Speaker 1: nutty candy is as good as the next. So he
39:38
Speaker 1: left a large bowl of Mary Jane's for the alien
39:41
Speaker 1: to show that he meant no harm and he waited.
39:44
Speaker 1: Soon enough, an alien ship landed an outwalked ET. Peter says, ah, hey,
39:49
Speaker 1: they're a little guy in. ET response, not little guy
39:52
Speaker 1: e T. Peter starts to explain what's going on, but
39:56
Speaker 1: Et shushes him with one glowing finger, saying ET knows.
40:00
Speaker 1: Then he points to his chest and says Elliott is
40:03
Speaker 1: right here, and a faint glow starts to appear. Peter
40:06
Speaker 1: knows what he what Et means and lifts Et off
40:09
Speaker 1: the ground and starts webs slinging to find Doc Cock,
40:12
Speaker 1: following Ets glowing heart, which seems to go brighter and
40:15
Speaker 1: brighter as they get nearer and nearer to dot Cock.
40:18
Speaker 1: They get to dock ox Layer and Peter goes in first,
40:20
Speaker 1: knowing that Doc Doc has gotten exceptionally erratic and violent,
40:24
Speaker 1: and dot Cock is about to throw one of his
40:26
Speaker 1: eight giant tentacles. I'm sorry, he's in Peter's body now,
40:28
Speaker 1: is one of his eight spider legs. When Et steps
40:31
Speaker 1: out from behind Peter and dot Dock graises Et instead,
40:34
Speaker 1: and Et of course says ouch and uh with a
40:38
Speaker 1: nod to the real spider man. Et and Peter launch
40:40
Speaker 1: out into an all out dehabilitating attack on Otto versus Elliott.
40:44
Speaker 1: I mean this fight was spectacular, with Peter spleeeming webs
40:47
Speaker 1: and jumping off walls, and Et well, well you just
40:50
Speaker 1: have to see it to believe it. They finally prevail
40:53
Speaker 1: and get auto slash Elliott tied up, Et realizes that
40:56
Speaker 1: Elliott was trapped in his brain by another consciousness. Mr Keys,
41:01
Speaker 1: the villainous government agent from Elliott's childhood Dunt Dunt Dah,
41:04
Speaker 1: apparently had infected Elliott's consciousness with his own after Et
41:08
Speaker 1: and escaped in an effort to get Et back and
41:11
Speaker 1: recapture him. Of course, Spiderman knew all of this empathetically,
41:15
Speaker 1: as et s english was still not that great, um
41:20
Speaker 1: Et was sure he could separate Keys from Otto, restoring
41:22
Speaker 1: him to his former Elliott persona, as he was a
41:25
Speaker 1: much older and wiser et and had spent had switched
41:28
Speaker 1: his his focus from plants to people ever since he
41:31
Speaker 1: left Earth. But he needed a very simple computer to
41:34
Speaker 1: do it, something that could house it consciousness but not
41:38
Speaker 1: be reprogrammed for nefarious ways. Uh So Peter scoured doc
41:42
Speaker 1: ox layer and found an old speaking spell in the corner.
41:46
Speaker 1: Et Uh said empathetically, that's great, and removed keys consciousness
41:52
Speaker 1: and put it into the speaking spell, restoring Auto to Elliott.
41:55
Speaker 1: Just one last problem. Elliott was slash. Auto was still
41:59
Speaker 1: in a clone of Spider Man's body, But now that
42:02
Speaker 1: he wasn't Otto anymore and he was Elliott and he
42:05
Speaker 1: was nice, they couldn't really kill him, so they released
42:10
Speaker 1: him too, as Et would say, go home, and he
42:14
Speaker 1: moved back to San Fernando Valley to be the West
42:16
Speaker 1: Coast Superior Spider Man and do some good, making up
42:20
Speaker 1: for all of the bad he had done since he
42:21
Speaker 1: was ten. Et decided to stay on Earth as his
42:24
Speaker 1: sidekick and make sure he didn't get into future trouble. Besides,
42:27
Speaker 1: Space didn't have recent pieces, and he took on the
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Speaker 1: persona Little Guy because he kind of liked it when
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Speaker 1: Peter called him that to help Elliott fight crime on
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Speaker 1: the West Coast. Key's furious of being trapped in the
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Speaker 1: speak and spell, yelled to get out, but the batteries
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Speaker 1: were really old and low and so you couldn't really
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Speaker 1: make it out, And eventually the lights faded and the
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Speaker 1: speaking spell stopped working, and it just laid in a
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Speaker 1: dark corner of dock Ox forgotten Lair. Um I, you know,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to Keys. I guess we'll
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Speaker 1: have to tune in next time for another exciting adventure
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Speaker 1: of the heroic do Spider Man and Little Guy to
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Speaker 1: find out? Well, that's a that's a series that um
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Speaker 1: I lament doesn't actually exist? Like I said, sorry, getting
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Speaker 1: well that is you know this was a fun one.
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Speaker 1: I will say that my original idea was that et
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Speaker 1: was going to be the irradiated Spider and give Peter Parker,
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Speaker 1: uh not Spider Man powers, but et Man powers. But
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Speaker 1: they just would have meant that he would have been
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Speaker 1: kind of like Read Richards because he would be able
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Speaker 1: to stretch his head really far from his body and
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Speaker 1: then I guess make parts of him glow. And the
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Speaker 1: more I thought about, the more I realized it would
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