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Vincenzo Giordano · ABJ

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  What's going on my guy? They don't.
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  The left hand man. I was going to say your last
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  name, but I would have butchered it and I didn't even give it a
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  shot. So it's Giordano.
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  Giordano I. Don't know why everyone keeps.
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  I think it's because I have it in my Instagram bio.
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  That's 100% why I put it there you.
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  You are not the first person who have who has done that thus far.
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  I always go to the, I go to the Instagram.
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  I say OK, this looks like a worker page and whatever they
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  put there they're OK with. Yes, fair enough.
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  So I mean, it's cool, you know, but shoot wise, that's my shoot
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  last name, so. It's good.
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  All right. Well, now docs them.
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  No, I'm joking. Yeah.
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  Now you got to pay extra just for the.
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  Yeah, just for this cute last name.
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  You got to pay extra, Yeah. Yeah, well now you got to fix
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  it. You got to put left hand man
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  Vincenzo and then get rid of the last name of course.
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  Yeah, maybe maybe, you know, maybe that's, that's how I
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  upcharge, you know, that's how I oversell it, you know?
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  Got you. All right, all right.
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  But we have met at PPWI. Always look forward to seeing
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  you at shows. Very very friendly.
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  One of my favorite 5 questions. You're supposed to be the return
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  guest for this podcast, but you don't.
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  Check your DMSI. Listen, they get flooded a lot,
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  you know. All the girls up in there.
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  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't.
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  I don't play that way, you know. I don't want to get you in.
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  Trouble. But you're always constantly
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  blocking them, is what you're doing.
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  Correct. Or they just get flooded with
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  18,000,000 shares and things getting sent into.
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  So it was just, you know, the whole new share feature,
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  somebody shares your posts, you get.
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  Oh yeah, yeah. I, I personally love that.
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  I think it's such a good way to get more audience on your posts
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  because it, it shows your audience, their audience.
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  It helps so much with promos for backstage at PPW.
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  It's been helping me grow tremendously.
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  So tell us about ourselves, about about yourself, and what
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  do. You do.
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  I'm a man of many talents in the ring, out the ring.
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  Definitely my main two things is wrestling and magic and also
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  music. But we could get into the music
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  part later since that's not been actively in my life, you know,
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  these past few years. But definitely wrestling and
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  magic is like what I do. That's what I try to base my
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  brand off of, is those two things.
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  Magic has been just in my life as long as wrestling has been
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  since I've been nine years old. You.
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  Know interesting. Have you met Nate at the shows
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  and talked magic with him? Nate.
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  Who's Nate? Which one is?
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  Nate Nate was the guy that was helping with the backstage
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  camera stuff with me on backstage.
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  He does the Switcher every now and then and he also helped with
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  the 50 he was backstage. He's that.
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  He's Nate Heater, the magician. He's like a big St. magician.
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  I I'm very horrible with names. So Nate, if you're watching all
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  all do apologies. I'm I got to link you up?
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  I don't. Know if it's CTE or what it is,
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  but who knows, you know? Yeah, next show I'm gonna.
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  I'm gonna I'm good with the faces.
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  I'm good with the faces. Like even the books I could
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  read. But I like the pictures better,
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  you know? Yeah, yeah, the pop up ones are
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  the best ones. Oh, of course, all those are my
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  favorite. Yeah, so magic music and pro
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  wrestling. Indeed.
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  And making money, that's and making money.
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  Let's be straight, you know I'm I'm the money collector when it
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  comes to the family. I I wish I can make more money.
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  That's my problem. I I have not been motivated by
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  money just because I didn't have it a lot growing up.
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  And then when I need it, I don't know how to like, hey, I'm worth
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  more. So I just kind of just keep
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  going. I'm like, they're just going to
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  see it and I'm going to get it and it never happens.
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  Fair enough. Yeah, I'm not aggressive enough,
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  I think when it comes to making, when it comes to making the
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  money. But I even like the beginning
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  when I have to say like, hey, I have merchandise for sale.
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  I fuck, I hate it. I get like a gross knot in my
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  stomach and I'm like, I don't want to talk about it.
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  I get like D and always Sunny or just gets uncomfortable.
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  She wants to puke. That's me when it comes to
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  talking money. So when did you fall in love
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  with professional wrestling? And, and I mean if you want to
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  throw magic in there as well, like well.
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  Pro wrestling was definitely way before Magic, so my first memory
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  of pro wrestling was I don't even know how old I was.
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  I must have been at least two. I remember Triple H smashing
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  Goldberg in the head with the sledgehammer.
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  I believe that was an Elimination Chamber match in
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  whatever year was. Your family.
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  A big wrestling family. Oh 1000% like my grandfather
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  used to watch WWWF back in the day.
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  Like I remember before he, like before he passed, I remember
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  being able to talk to him about wrestling, you know, so that was
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  always cool to pick his brain and stuff.
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  My mother was a big wrestling fan, my father basically.
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  We, we grew up watching it, you know, it was always in the
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  household. When I always ask what what got
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  you into wrestling and they tell me their wrestling moment, it
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  ages them like you could tell what era they were.
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  And I'm just like, Oh my goodness.
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  At that point in time, I'm like already this age, like because
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  I'm a little bit older. Wow, that's crazy.
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  I think my first bread memory is like watching the Rockers
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  together before the Shawn split. Yeah, I was.
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  I've been watching a pretty long time.
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  Yeah, so, I mean, it was always that, you know, it was always
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  around in our house. And then also my older brother,
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  anything he did, I did, you know, so I remember being nine
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  years old, him and his friends, they were all older than me.
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  They'd started in the backyard. So we'd also just be in the
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  backyard beating the crap out of each other, not knowing what
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  we're doing, you know, like just for shifts and giggles.
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  What's the age difference between you 2?
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  He was born in 93, I was born in 99, so 6 years.
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  OK, OK. I have a big age gap between me
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  and my brother as well. We're 11.
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  OK, gosh. I think it's a different way of
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  growing up when you have more than a five year gap between you
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  and a sibling. Oh for sure I I agree with that
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  1000% like so even my sister like me and her are like best
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  friends you know like this. She's older than me too, but
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  she's younger than my brother. OK.
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  So there's a little closer gap. Yeah, she was born in 95 S Me
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  and her are four years apart. Are you the baby?
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  I am oh. The baby Italian in the family,
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  you, you are pretty much Jesus right?
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  Like you can do no wrong. Apparently.
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  I mean, I don't know, you know, who knows?
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  All I know is that I don't know, you know?
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  You don't know what everybody else knows.
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  I bet you have one of your family in here.
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  Like you're got your right. You could have burned the house
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  down and got away with it. Are you the biggest one too,
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  right? That's that's how it works.
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  Yeah me and my brother are like very close in height but he he
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  claims we're the same height or he's taller than me.
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  That is not the case. My ID says different, my ID says
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  I'm 6/4 which I am 6/4 and his ID says 63 so.
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  You got him. But he he still thinks he's
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  taller than me because he he likes to acclaim because he
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  slouches a lot. But.
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  OK, he has a bad back. Yes, exactly.
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  He has. He has to carry the family
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  through, you know, through a lot of hard times.
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  So yes, he hasn't that bad. So coming from an Italian side,
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  I have an Italian side and an Irish side.
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  We, we have, I'm a weird, weird mix, but we heritage wise, we
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  have a little bit of English and German and it's in there as
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  well. But when it comes to when it
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  comes to the growing up, once I was very Irish, once I was very
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  Italian, my Italian side. Now I I want to ask for you, if
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  you're similar to me, do you have a lot of family members,
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  cousins, whatever, all with the same name?
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  Not really, No, Really. OK, there's a few Josephs.
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  There's a few like and and Mary's and, you know, like, but
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  other than that, no, not really. I mean, mine's a weird one.
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  Even family, but like I'm the only I'm the only Vincenzo.
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  Like OK. I, I broke the mold.
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  I was, I was an Anthony, but all of my cousins for the most part
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  were Steven because the like the, I don't want to say the
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  dawn, but the respected grandfather, a great
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  grandfather, like everyone has to put his name and every kids
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  name, you know what I mean? So I have like 475 cousins
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  Stevens, you know what I mean? Like, oh, that's Steven and
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  that's Steven. And there's Steven over there.
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  Like my middle name's Steven, but I, I there, my gram's like,
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  no, we're going to take a break from this.
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  He'll middle name Steven. First name my gram made me.
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  My parents had no choice. I got you.
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  Yeah. Well, like in the neighborhood.
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  Yes. There's a million Vinnies in the
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  neighborhood. So we got Vinnie Smokes, We got
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  Vinnie's Vinnie Squash. We got Vinnie Swift's Vinnie
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  Sails because he likes boats. So he, you know, we call him
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  Vinnie Sails. Spent two times and he says
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  everything twice. Do you have any snaps?
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  Any snaps? I like that.
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  I like that. Everything with the hands, with
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  you, magics fingers. Every.
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  All right, all right. So I snapped bones, ligaments
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  and also after I hand after a handshake I snapped so.
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  All right. When, what, what?
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  What area of New York did you grow up in?
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  I don't want to put too much out there, but like, what?
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  What, What? The Bronx?
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  The Bronx? So you're a Bronx tail?
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  Even though Goodfellas is my I, I prefer Goodfellas over
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  Bronxdale, but Bronxdale is still a.
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  Tremendous. Great movie.
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  Great movie, Yeah. Yeah, so I grew up in the Bronx.
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  Like we moved around a lot. Like when people ask me where in
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  the Bronx, I legit say everywhere.
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  Like we lived in every portion of the Bronx except Riverdale.
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  But to me, Riverdale is not the Bronx.
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  It's just northern Manhattan like so but yeah, obviously like
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  pub, like going to public school and stuff was always in a
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  certain part Pelham Bay, you know, Pelham Bay, part of the
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  Bronx. So that's like when my
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  grandmother had her house, you know, my great aunt and great
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  uncle, they, they lived on like in drugs neck and all that kind
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  of stuff. So.
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  So growing up, were you in like more of like a diverse school or
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  was it very just like Italian based?
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  Like what? Was there a lot of different
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  culture? Oh, yeah, definitely a lot of
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  different culture. I went to school with, you know,
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  it was a great mix of everything, you know?
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  Yeah, I wouldn't. I love the school that we, that
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  I was able to be in, you know, like my elementary and middle
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  school was crazy, like in a good way.
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  And then I was the bad, you know, I was the bad way while I
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  was crazy. What kind of what kind of kid
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  were you growing up? What were you?
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  Into same thing, magic and wrestling.
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  Yep. No sports, nothing.
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  Of course. And sports, of course, play
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  basketball, baseball, What else? We did handball a lot.
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  Handball's a big New York thing. Everyone in New York plays
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  handball. 1000%. Or stickball.
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  Stickball's another one everyone plays.
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  But now stickball, that's what they used to play back in the
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  day in like the 60s to 80s, you know, And then now me at my and
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  my generation, we had the Wiffle ball.
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  The wiffle ball bat came with the, the, the, the plastic white
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  ball. And we played that.
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  But I remember when we lived on Decatur in 199 near the
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  Botanical Gardens, that's what all of us would play.
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  Outside is stickball, you know? So, yeah.
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  They've ever watched the professional wiffle ball league,
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  like they play in a base in like someone's yard and they have it
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  like they have like a professional camera set up and
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  they have this whole league. And then you have like the the
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  batter like this, the blacks and you hit, if you hit it at the
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  strike or an instant out, it's wild.
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  They have a professional stickball league in Dyke really
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  in in Dykeman in that part of the Bronx and it it's amazing.
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  Like they legit where when was it?
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  It was, I want to say maybe last month, I was driving down to one
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  of the shows, most likely Battlefield.
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  I was driving down to Battlefield and I decided to get
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  off the highway to avoid traffic yet not knowing there's a whole
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  block party going on. And part of that block party,
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  they had their stickball league going on and it was just amazing
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  to watch, you know? So it's awesome.
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  Lily is confused on what stickball is.
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  I know you're pretty much it's not.
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  It's like baseball, but instead of a bat, you're playing with
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  essentially a stick and and it's like.
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  A mop stick, any any kind of stick like that.
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  Is a rubber ball or is it just like a regular like I guess a
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  wiffle ball? So now here's the the inside.
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  We used to use anything. Normally it would be a handball,
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  a rubber handball, or if you didn't have money for that, you
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  can either ball up a ball of tape like duct tape and use
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  that, or we used to do the rubber band balls as well.
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  Yeah. And like, the harder you hit it,
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  the more likely you're probably, you have to like just make
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  contact because if you try to kill it, you're probably just
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  going to pop it up. And if you're not going to,
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  you're not going to get as much on it.
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  Like there's a strategy to it. Oh, 1000%.
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  You know how many handballs we lost roofing them?
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  Yeah, roofing them. Meaning like they we'd hit it
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  and it'd get stuck on the roof and later in the day or right
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  before the sun would go down, we'd have to climb up the out
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  the window, up the fire escape just to collect all of them.
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  And, and literally essentially they're played in the middle of
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  the street. Like it's baseball in the middle
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  of the street. Like you just like, OK, that car
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  is first base, that second, that car is third and home is back
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  here and you're just playing and you got to like chase the ball
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  down underneath cars. You know, it's like an obstacle
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  course in baseball, Yeah. Oh, 1000%.
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  I also used to play hockey as well in Waterbury Park.
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  I remember not ice hockey, it was roller hockey.
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  But that was just like, basically, if you didn't have
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  anything to do when you were a kid, you could go there and
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  coach Robert, he actually looked out for a lot of kids in the
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  neighborhood, you know, to keep them, keep them on the street
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  and narrow and all that kind of stuff.
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  So shout out to. So when did you start to pursue
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  your industry? When you're like, OK, I'm, I'm
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  going to, I really want to look into pro wrestling.
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  I want to. I want to get to the next step
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  here. So there's 2 answers to that
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  question. The first answer was when I was
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  10. So as I said, we wrestled in the
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  backyard and all that kind of stuff.
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  And then from the backyard we would go to Pelham Bay Park.
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  That's one of this, the biggest park in New York City, if
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  anybody likes to question that. Do you?
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  Do you goddamn Googles? Everyone thinks new.
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  York has the sirens go off in the background.
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  Everyone thinks it's Central Park.
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  It is not Central Park. Central Park is the second
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  largest park in all of the city. However, it is Palm Bay Park is
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  Palm Bay Park consists of Orchard Beach, parts of New
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  Rochelle, the Split Rock Golf Course, City Island and Pelham
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  Bay plus the park. So it it is a very large area of
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  all right, very large area of what am I trying to think of
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  just a very large area. There we go of land there we go
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  of land. Hey, don't.
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  So. We, then we started wrestling in
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  the park and then eventually we found the school in the Bronx
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  that had a, a ring. Basically you pay $10 every
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  Wednesday. I believe it was open ring kind
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  of deal. You sign a waiver.
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  And I remember we, I, I started going there when I was 10.
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  My brother was what, 16/15/16 and all his friends were
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  probably around the same age. So basically just go there and
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  learn, you know, So that's the first answer to that question.
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  Second answer would be after I finished my schooling and I
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  started working, I just fell out of it because even in middle
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  school and stuff I I was on the wrestling team somewhat of high
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  school I was on the wrestling team as well and then I just
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  stopped because I started working.
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  Then 2021 came around, my brother started training at Team
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  3D in Danbury, CT. Oh shit, OK.
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  So that's when I, I was like, wait, you're doing what?
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  OK, cool. As soon as I get my next check,
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  literally my income taxes, I got them back, went straight up
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  there, said, hey, I'm here to sign up, let's get it going.
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  And then my brother was like, all right, I'll, I'll put the
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  word in and let Bubba know. And then from there, it's been
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  history. Now is Bubba and Devon legit
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  training you at this school or is it just their name and they
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  have other people like? They they legit train.
• 19:37
  So Bubba runs the one in Danbury, Devon runs the one in
• 19:41
  Florida. Interesting.
• 19:43
  So it originated in Florida in Kissimmee or might have been
• 19:48
  actually a different part at that time, I'm not too sure.
• 19:52
  Then I guess when Bubba got his SiriusXM deal, he moved back up
• 19:59
  here. I'm not.
• 20:00
  I'm not too sure about the logistics on that.
• 20:02
  But yeah, it all originated in Florida by now.
• 20:06
  They're both, they're also both Gleeson's gyms guys, right?
• 20:09
  They're both changed by Johnny Rods and then went on to start
• 20:11
  their own schools. From what to my knowledge I know
• 20:15
  only Devon is a Gleeson's guy and Johnny guy.
• 20:19
  Interesting. OK.
• 20:20
  Because I believe Bubba. I believe Bubba only learned
• 20:25
  that from Devon if I'm not mistaken.
• 20:28
  Yeah, I'm not. I could, I could.
• 20:29
  I thought maybe Bubba was there for a little bit, but I I don't
• 20:32
  know if he if what, what the whole story is.
• 20:34
  I know, I know Devon Dreamer and there's another ECW guy that all
• 20:39
  came from Johnny Rods. I just I'm having a brain fart
• 20:42
  on who it is. Yeah, I'm not too sure.
• 20:47
  Yeah, interesting. So what it what is it like
• 20:50
  working with with Bub? Bubba is a very polarizing guy.
• 20:52
  Either you love him or you hate him.
• 20:55
  I love his mind for the business.
• 20:58
  I I hate the way he conducts himself sometimes.
• 21:03
  So now we me personally, I never had any issues with him.
• 21:09
  Obviously there's other stories with some other students and
• 21:13
  stuff like that, but I like to keep it as Fight Club, you know?
• 21:17
  I don't like putting it out there.
• 21:19
  Most of the complaints I've ever heard are from fans.
• 21:21
  Like fans have been a big interaction because he, because
• 21:24
  he's the bully, like he's gonna, he's not always the nicest guy
• 21:27
  because he's either in gimmick or that's just who he is.
• 21:30
  He is in. He's an Italian from New York.
• 21:33
  Yeah, like, you know. My relationship with him was
• 21:36
  always like an, like an uncle, you know, like.
• 21:40
  He does got a great mind, like he he has really good takes on
• 21:42
  busted open. A lot of times I feel like I say
• 21:44
  I'm on my stream and then the next day he's saying I'm busted
• 21:46
  open. I'm not saying he's listening to
• 21:48
  me by any means, but it just shows we're probably on the same
• 21:50
  page when we see something and we're like, oh, that just makes
• 21:53
  sense of. Course and I will always give
• 21:56
  him and our head trainer was Randy Shawn.
• 21:59
  So he he used to be on the Indies.
• 22:02
  He still is, but he used to go by Jay Boston back in the day.
• 22:05
  He was also part of the spirit squad.
• 22:07
  All that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:09
  Lindsay here. Great question.
• 22:10
  Does your brother still wrestle? No, no, Lindsay, he doesn't.
• 22:17
  So I started in 21 March of 21 and then my nephew was born
• 22:28
  December of 2020. What day?
• 22:30
  December. 23rd. Oh, OK, OK.
• 22:34
  I was making sure we'd have the we're sharing birthday, Sir.
• 22:36
  I'm earlier. I'm earlier in December.
• 22:38
  When's your birthday? The 5th.
• 22:40
  OK, got you. Are you in December too?
• 22:43
  I'm a June no, but my brother, my brother, my mother, and my
• 22:47
  brother's wife is all December. So people are having a good
• 22:52
  time, People have a good time. Saint Patty's Day.
• 22:54
  Saint Patty's Day. December as well.
• 22:58
  She yeah, she's yeah, the 21st. My godmother's the 21st though.
• 23:03
  December. But My my mother, my nephew and
• 23:08
  my father all share the same birthday, which is wicked.
• 23:12
  That's crazy. Me and my brother are five days
• 23:14
  apart because my, my, my parents anniversary and Saint Patty's
• 23:17
  Day are like on the same spot and that, you know, they just
• 23:20
  celebrate and then a baby pops out.
• 23:22
  Oh yeah, apparently. I guess that's how it works, you
• 23:25
  know? But my brother, he actually
• 23:29
  stepped away just so he can take care of the family at that time.
• 23:32
  Smart. You know, he, he got, he also
• 23:36
  had a very rigorous job. He was the guy at that said job
• 23:40
  and he basically had to eat, live, breathe and and shit that
• 23:44
  job essentially. So.
• 23:47
  I also worked for that same. I also worked for that same
• 23:50
  company as well and same thing. So I made my debut in December
• 23:53
  of 22, got the new job, was told no weekends.
• 23:59
  Oh. So all of 2023 I was out of like
• 24:04
  the Indies, you know, like I made my debut great, you know I
• 24:08
  was so you know I was all hype about it.
• 24:09
  All right, this is this is my goals for how I want this year
• 24:13
  to go got the job no weekends cool.
• 24:18
  That's basically basically you got fed up told them all to go
• 24:22
  fuck themselves. You know, because I don't I have
• 24:24
  no filter. I try to keep it professional as
• 24:27
  long as I would, you know? However, it just comes to a
• 24:31
  point where it's like, all right, I'm going to take a bet
• 24:34
  on myself and I've been happy ever since, you know?
• 24:38
  How did magic come about with my older brother?
• 24:41
  OK. So anything he did, I did.
• 24:44
  OK. Wrestling magic working in the
• 24:47
  movie theater industry. I did too.
• 24:49
  I worked in the theater. That's crazy.
• 24:51
  That's awesome. Yeah.
• 24:54
  So what like, are you a card trick guy?
• 24:56
  Like what all can you like? What all can we do with with
• 24:58
  with magic? So sleight of hand also, we have
• 25:02
  like we had different gimmicks now I'm not sure if I know.
• 25:06
  I don't really have much. I only I stick to cards and like
• 25:10
  I ordered a few new things like coin magic and all that kind of
• 25:14
  stuff too. But mostly just sleight of hand
• 25:17
  because that that's what I feel most comfortable with.
• 25:21
  I could also like pickpocket, you know, So make sure you have
• 25:23
  your wallet. At all times.
• 25:26
  Take watches off wrists and all that kind of shit too so.
• 25:29
  I like that. Some mentalism, like reading
• 25:32
  minds and doing all that kind of shit.
• 25:34
  So yeah. I love.
• 25:35
  Yeah, I definitely got a part in you up with Nate.
• 25:37
  You and you were used to have a blast with each other.
• 25:40
  I met there was another kid that Logie like legit he was at some
• 25:44
  show and I got a random video text from Logie and he he was
• 25:49
  like, yeah, there's just I forget his name so.
• 25:52
  Pardon, it might be Nate because Nate did a trick with Logie at
• 25:54
  PPW. He was there at PPW this past
• 25:57
  Saturday. Yeah, Yep.
• 25:58
  He had, he had a bun, right? Is that?
• 26:01
  Is that who? No, Nate doesn't have.
• 26:02
  He has like a buzz cut. He's kind of a bigger dude.
• 26:04
  I forget what shirt he was wearing to be honest with you.
• 26:07
  OK. Yeah.
• 26:09
  Yes. So there was another guy that
• 26:11
  was there. I, I, I told you, I'm horrible
• 26:13
  with names. I'm good with faces, just
• 26:15
  horrible. I'm the same way.
• 26:16
  I'm honestly the same way. So Logie just sent me a random
• 26:21
  video text one day saying like, he's like, you're not the only
• 26:25
  magician anymore. And I'm like, OK, cool.
• 26:28
  It was great. It was a pretty cool trick, you
• 26:31
  know, I knew how to do it. But you know, what can I say?
• 26:37
  I love that it's like Penn and Taylor fool me.
• 26:40
  So what were the beginning stages of you finding your place
• 26:43
  when it comes to professional wrestling?
• 26:44
  Like going through the early stages, I you got to get the
• 26:47
  shit kicked out of you at bully school, right?
• 26:49
  Like he's not taking like bully's a really big respect
• 26:52
  guy. Like you're not just walking in,
• 26:53
  getting his ring and and go and then just like I feel like you
• 26:57
  got to because he's even the person, if you're even across
• 26:59
  the barrier, you need to train. Thankfully, I didn't have to do
• 27:02
  any of that because I my body is not equipped for that.
• 27:05
  And that's why I do commentary, but I respect it.
• 27:07
  I don't go in the ring. I'm not that guy who's like, oh,
• 27:09
  I'm a content creator and I also want to sneak in and do
• 27:11
  wrestling and I'm not trained or I want to be a manager and I'm
• 27:14
  not trained. Like I'm only in there if I
• 27:16
  absolutely have to. And it's not to do any spots
• 27:19
  because I didn't earn that. Of course I get that.
• 27:22
  So it took me I think 3 months to get into the ring.
• 27:28
  It could have been longer, I don't remember.
• 27:31
  I have a shit memory, but anywhere from like three to five
• 27:35
  months on the floor, chaining, chain wrestling.
• 27:39
  Learn how to lock up. Like there was legit classes
• 27:42
  where I was just there just locking up.
• 27:45
  That was the class just locking up.
• 27:48
  Next class lock up top for a slop, you know, so it's very,
• 27:55
  it's very. Fundamental based.
• 28:00
  Fundamental based but also smart how he how he did that, you
• 28:03
  know, because he's not like there's, there's some kids on
• 28:07
  shows that were on that I might overhear or hear like they would
• 28:12
  tell me themselves, you know, yeah, I've only been training
• 28:15
  like four months. So it's like, oh, OK, cool.
• 28:19
  Like if, if that works for you, great, you know, But it's like
• 28:24
  now I understand why you're doing certain hot spots and
• 28:28
  certain like you're more prone to injury in my opinion.
• 28:32
  There's no in ring psychology, you're looking to just, you're
• 28:34
  looking to be flashy and not and then you kind of lose that art
• 28:38
  of storytelling within the ropes.
• 28:40
  Sometimes you don't always have to work super hard to get a
• 28:42
  crowd. It's sometimes it's just a look
• 28:45
  or it's a demeanor or it's a walk.
• 28:47
  It's there's like you can do those basic fundamentals and
• 28:51
  still tell a story and not have to even do like anything wild.
• 28:55
  Like it's, it's not always about the moves, It's about the
• 28:58
  moments you create within the within the match.
• 29:01
  But that is, to me, that's the difference between, I mean, I
• 29:05
  guess sports entertainment is not really the same thing
• 29:07
  anymore. No, no.
• 29:08
  It's two different industries. Yeah, now they're still going.
• 29:12
  Now they can say pro wrestling on TV, you know, But that's the
• 29:17
  difference between pro wrestling and sports entertainment or WWE
• 29:22
  in my opinion. Because it's pro wrestling, it's
• 29:25
  always been pro wrestling, you know.
• 29:27
  Granted, they couldn't they they switched to terminology.
• 29:30
  However, it's still that you know.
• 29:34
  Yeah, I, I definitely think there's a, a, a different scoop
• 29:37
  of flavor for every pro wrestling.
• 29:39
  And I think there's, I think all of them are welcome and I all
• 29:41
  think they're needed. Like, I don't, I don't judge if
• 29:43
  that's your style, if you're a comic or you're a gimmick or
• 29:46
  you're just, hey, I just do goofy stuff.
• 29:48
  Be the best goofy guy out there. Like there's a, there's a spot
• 29:50
  for you to do that. You know what I mean?
• 29:52
  Exactly. Yeah, So what were some setbacks
• 29:56
  or reverses you had to overcome in your?
• 29:59
  Career balancing, balancing the shoot job with this, you know,
• 30:04
  that was the biggest one. And like I said, I got fed up to
• 30:08
  a point where it's just like, all right, like fuck this job,
• 30:11
  you know, like I felt held back and it and the craziest thing is
• 30:16
  like I went to shows, but I just knew personally, like if I know
• 30:21
  I can't make this commitment like once every week or twice a
• 30:28
  month or three times a month, then I'm not going to just I put
• 30:32
  myself out there to be Hey, can it like start taking bookings
• 30:36
  essentially, you know, so I'm glad I did it that way, though,
• 30:42
  because not that I just showed up booked wrestle next month.
• 30:48
  I can't following month. I can't, you know, so it's just
• 30:51
  like, but that I feel like that was my biggest.
• 30:55
  That was my biggest thing I had to overcome.
• 30:57
  Is that right there? How is it right now getting
• 31:00
  booking for you? How many different companies are
• 31:01
  you working for? Oh, honestly, it's tremendous.
• 31:05
  I've been since legit last year, since March of last year, I've
• 31:10
  been constantly booked every month.
• 31:13
  So right now I'm running four or five promotions like strict so.
• 31:22
  And they're not like, you know, they're not shinies either.
• 31:26
  Like, and that, that that's the biggest part.
• 31:29
  Like to me, Battlefield is my number one.
• 31:32
  Yeah, 1000%. You know, that's, that's my
• 31:35
  bread and butter. Alpha took me in, gave me the
• 31:37
  chance and I've been there ever since.
• 31:40
  And that was March of, that was March of last year.
• 31:43
  Well, we used to be in the building.
• 31:44
  I was, I was the commentary guy there and that I don't know if
• 31:47
  it's fixed, but man, that building was hot and extremely
• 31:50
  cold at, at the, in the beginning stages.
• 31:52
  I know they were working on fixing that in the middle.
• 31:55
  But then I used to go in and see BP in the Zumba room and that's
• 31:59
  where the backstage promo spot was.
• 32:01
  And I remember going in the Zumba room and just be it's all
• 32:03
  air conditioner and it's beautiful in there.
• 32:05
  And I'm like, you son of a bitch.
• 32:07
  And now where we are in Slatington, the promo room is a
• 32:11
  million degree. I'm, I'm dying back.
• 32:14
  I don't know how it's going to be in the winter.
• 32:15
  I haven't done winter shows yet there, but Oh my God, it's,
• 32:19
  that's the one thing I do miss about that.
• 32:21
  The location that battlefield's in in Oh my God, where the hell
• 32:25
  is that? Not Slidington Broadheadsville.
• 32:28
  Thank you, thank you. Great venue.
• 32:30
  I, I, I think the wrestlers really love this fact that you
• 32:33
  can go out and get a pump on in the gym or get a quick quit, you
• 32:36
  know what I mean? Then go in the Zumba room and
• 32:38
  like there's a lot of there's a lot of places to kind of do your
• 32:41
  thing. There's a massage table, you
• 32:42
  know, you know what I mean? Like the little food snack place
• 32:44
  there. Like it's a great venue.
• 32:46
  They do a great job, great parking spots like we.
• 32:48
  Just renovated too, so it's it's even a million times better.
• 32:52
  I've just seen a video of like the stage, like you guys built
• 32:55
  the whole stage. There's a whole backstage area.
• 32:57
  Like it looks way different. I haven't seen it fully, but
• 33:00
  from what I'm used to and then what you guys are doing now and
• 33:02
  it has greatly improved and you guys are putting a lot of good
• 33:05
  work in there. You gotta come, you gotta come
• 33:07
  down, bro, you know? Yeah.
• 33:08
  I gotta come see a show soon. The roster's fantastic too.
• 33:11
  I just seen what Tommy Vincible took on Rich Holiday.
• 33:17
  Yep. Yeah, it happened to
• 33:18
  Battlefield. Yeah, for sure.
• 33:20
  Yeah, they're, they're doing cool stuff, man.
• 33:21
  I mean, I, I mean, I worked with off a bunch of times.
• 33:23
  He's, he's always been super nice to me, but I, I just
• 33:27
  haven't had a chance really to when I, when, when he was kind
• 33:29
  of starting off and PPW is changing venues is around the
• 33:32
  same time I was going through a divorce.
• 33:34
  And that's when I kind of stepped away from wrestling
• 33:35
  because I didn't really know my, what my life was going to entail
• 33:38
  at that point in time. And then, and then kind of
• 33:41
  around the time when I met you at PPW is when I first kind of
• 33:44
  broke back into wrestling because I took a huge chunk off
• 33:47
  because I'm the same way. If, if I can't, if I can't be at
• 33:49
  a promotion every single month and dedicate myself to that
• 33:53
  promotion every month and I'm half in half out there one month
• 33:56
  off 3 months back a month. I just, I won't, I won't
• 34:00
  consider myself part of that team because I'm not as
• 34:03
  consistent. No 1000% I completely agree with
• 34:06
  that. Yeah.
• 34:09
  But for so the promotions I'm really at is Battlefield Gremlin
• 34:15
  House Wrestling that's based out of New Jersey, Tremendous.
• 34:20
  We have a show coming up in October, October 25th.
• 34:24
  We got Journey fought to Zilla fought to BG Wayne.
• 34:29
  Who else we got? I believe Sandman is that
• 34:34
  Clayton from FBII could keep just naming names, you know, but
• 34:40
  that that's that's a great place to be out as well.
• 34:44
  That's where I joined the FBI, was at Gremlin House, which is?
• 34:47
  Yeah. Great work with with Guido,
• 34:50
  little Guido. Guido and Ray Jazz they Guido
• 34:53
  is. Unfucking a lot of people just
• 34:56
  see him for his comedy character but people don't realize like
• 34:59
  that man is a fucking worker like his ground, his mat skills
• 35:03
  and his chain and his he's like regal level good.
• 35:07
  Like his stuff in Japan he was fucking people up.
• 35:13
  Guido is. A great man.
• 35:15
  Yeah, I love every time I'm on a show and Guido's there.
• 35:18
  I'm just in awe. I'm like, Oh my God, I'm so
• 35:20
  happy he's here. Like he just, he's, I love him,
• 35:23
  I love him to death. He's so good and he's always a
• 35:25
  class act person to work with. 1000%.
• 35:29
  Yeah. What are some key moments or
• 35:31
  accomplishments you have had in so far in your career?
• 35:34
  Definitely that joining FBI in a way.
• 35:39
  See, this past Sunday also was another big one.
• 35:44
  Kavitzer's me and the Vetrano brothers went up against the
• 35:47
  Team Genesis, so Clipper Jones, Ken Powers and TK Okasenko.
• 35:52
  All six of us all trained at 3D and this was the first match
• 35:55
  that all of us were in together. And it was.
• 35:59
  Two separate groups, like they have their group.
• 36:02
  We have our group, you know, So that was pretty, pretty amazing
• 36:05
  and surreal to do that. See Taco Fest for Battlefield
• 36:11
  back last March. Or no, It was May.
• 36:14
  Yeah, May, Sorry. Taco Fest.
• 36:17
  Taco Fest? Where was it?
• 36:19
  It was at Pocono State Park. Oh wow.
• 36:22
  The day before May 4th, May the fourth be with you there was the
• 36:25
  day before Cinco de Mayo. So yeah, that match was actually
• 36:30
  me and Ken versus the Vetrano brothers, So and that was my
• 36:34
  first match back since my debut. So that was only my second ever
• 36:39
  match and my first match at Battlefield.
• 36:43
  So that that was pretty surreal. Me and Wrecking Ball Lagerski as
• 36:49
  well, that hits that hit differently because I also
• 36:52
  trained like we trained together as well at 3D trying to think I
• 36:58
  feel like me and Rico gold from Love Hurts.
• 37:01
  We put on a banger. So me and Rico had two matches
• 37:05
  in Battlefield for Futures. Our first match was I think in
• 37:10
  January at the January Futures and then we rented back in
• 37:15
  February. Now the January 1 really didn't
• 37:19
  like yeah, it went OK, but in February we had a point to prove
• 37:25
  why we are who we are, you know, So I definitely that match still
• 37:30
  sticks with me. I got to Canada this year.
• 37:34
  So me wrestling in Canada, that was definitely on my list of
• 37:38
  goals and for me to for this year and for me to somehow make
• 37:42
  that happen, it was great, you know?
• 37:47
  What promotion was it? Supernova Wrestling and it was
• 37:53
  like a cross promotion. It was Supernova Wrestling and
• 37:56
  then Kaiju Pro. Kaiju Pro are based out of
• 38:00
  Connecticut. Yeah, no, they they're not the
• 38:03
  same as big Kaiju battle, right? They're two different things.
• 38:06
  I believe, yeah, I believe so. I believe it's.
• 38:08
  Yeah, so this is kind of like A2 parter.
• 38:12
  So I was going to ask you who your role models and influences
• 38:14
  are. But for people who've never
• 38:15
  watched you wrestle, who, who do you?
• 38:17
  Who would you say you most emulate or like you with the
• 38:21
  style of of match that you put on?
• 38:24
  See, I, it's hard for me to answer that myself, you know,
• 38:28
  because yes, I watch back all my footage and all that kind of
• 38:31
  stuff. However, I just, I don't like to
• 38:34
  compare to others, you know, I, I'm just me, Like I, I, I heard
• 38:42
  what people compare me to, you know, like I get Bray Wyatt
• 38:46
  sometimes. I guess that's just because of
• 38:48
  my stature and and look, maybe. And and athletic for your size.
• 38:53
  Like people would probably see your size and don't realize how
• 38:54
  athletic you are. Yeah, I get him a lot.
• 38:58
  There's Who else have I gotten recently?
• 39:02
  I forgot What? What one of the brothers brother
• 39:05
  just told me it was somebody else.
• 39:08
  But big men who are very athletic for their saws.
• 39:11
  Yeah, that's who I really get compared to a lot.
• 39:14
  Kevin Nash, Who's the other one? Who's your favorite athletic big
• 39:18
  man? Oh, let's see.
• 39:23
  That's not Alfa junior because he's very athletic for his size
• 39:26
  as well. Samoans are just deceiving.
• 39:28
  So they can be 8000 lbs but they're still doing moonsaults.
• 39:32
  I was like, how the fuck do you do that?
• 39:35
  Growing up, like I always, that's who I like, you know,
• 39:39
  like Mark Henry was one of my favorite wrestlers.
• 39:41
  Umaga. Yeah.
• 39:45
  Let's see, Big John Stud, Like I, that's what I that's what I
• 39:51
  watched. That's what I studied, You know,
• 39:53
  even at a young age, like me and my brother would just watch tape
• 39:58
  for hours and hours and hours. And like, now I'm just watching
• 40:02
  tape by myself or if I'm at the Vetrano's house, like, we'll
• 40:05
  watch something, you know, like we we stay up to date with
• 40:07
  everything. But like, all right, let's watch
• 40:10
  something from back then. You know, like, yeah, I like
• 40:16
  Austin Idol. Austin Idol is another big man,
• 40:20
  like a big guy, but he's very athletic and all that kind of
• 40:24
  stuff. So that's my kind of style of
• 40:26
  wrestling, like being able to do moves but make them make sense
• 40:31
  and tell a story at the same time while doing it.
• 40:34
  I'm a Vader guy, a Vader. I love Vader and I Love
• 40:38
  Actually, I like Vader. I love Bam Bam Bigelow.
• 40:42
  I love Bam. Yeah.
• 40:45
  I watched a lot of bam Bam growing up too.
• 40:48
  Like even still now there's certain spots that I'll be like,
• 40:52
  oh OK cool, I'm in. I'm rocking, I'm rocking my Luna
• 40:56
  right now. Did you watch on a EWI?
• 41:02
  Think it was her last pay-per-view they had.
• 41:04
  They brought in from stardom Bozilla.
• 41:07
  She's like this big German chick.
• 41:11
  She's like a bodybuilder, huge, like she's but she's like
• 41:14
  wrestles like a female Bam bam Bigelow.
• 41:16
  She's like a she's like a supermodel female big girl who
• 41:21
  just is doing 2nd row moonsaults on people.
• 41:24
  Like she's killing it, yeah. I've probably seen clips but I I
• 41:29
  definitely didn't watch that last paper review.
• 41:31
  I hope that when Sammy goes over to Japan somehow they find a way
• 41:35
  to put her on Bozilla together, because I need that match in my
• 41:38
  life. That would honestly be amazing,
• 41:40
  you know? Yeah, I'm still convinced that
• 41:43
  we're not getting Sammy back. I think.
• 41:45
  I think Sammy's going to Japan and she may come home to like
• 41:49
  tie up loose ends. But I, I, I genuinely think when
• 41:53
  she goes over there, just because of the way she conducts
• 41:55
  herself, how easy she is to work, how versatile she is, I
• 41:59
  think she's, I think that's going to be her home for a
• 42:01
  while. I think she's that good.
• 42:02
  I think, I don't think we're going to see Sammy in the states
• 42:06
  much longer. I and I, and which is a good
• 42:08
  thing because I want her to get to that next level.
• 42:10
  But I think she's made for that Japanese style and just being a
• 42:14
  big base and just throwing around these tiny girls and
• 42:17
  like, but also can like, no one has done it yet really.
• 42:20
  She does it in her promos, but like, she's fucking funny.
• 42:23
  She has really good comic timing and she can tell a whole and her
• 42:28
  she can tell a whole story with just her eyes.
• 42:30
  She has the best facial expressions in pro wrestling.
• 42:33
  I 1000% agree with that. Yeah.
• 42:37
  Also another big like inspiration was Jericho.
• 42:40
  OK, Yeah. He, I remember being, I must
• 42:44
  have been at least like 1011 whenever his second book came
• 42:48
  out, like my brother, he, my brother had his first book, like
• 42:53
  we bought it or got it from Pathmark back in the day.
• 42:57
  That's where we get all our wrestling magazines, go to
• 42:59
  Pathmark, get them. And we, we've had, I think we
• 43:04
  still have them actually in the storage unit, just a big like
• 43:07
  two or three big IKEA bags filled with wrestling magazines
• 43:10
  from like 05:00 to like to the last year they, they produced
• 43:15
  them. Were you getting the Abner mags?
• 43:17
  The what? The Bill.
• 43:18
  Abner Mags. Which ones are those?
• 43:21
  Bill Abner was like the big wrestling journalist for a
• 43:23
  while. I don't, I don't know if he
• 43:24
  still has the magazines, but he was.
• 43:26
  He was a big magazine. Bill Abner was essentially the
• 43:28
  guy who got Jerry Lawler versus Andy Kaufman to happen.
• 43:33
  No, I know the name. I know, I know the person, I
• 43:36
  just don't remember. Yeah, he, he, he, that was his
• 43:39
  Abner. I, I can never say his name.
• 43:40
  I have dyslexia, but he, he, he, he had a magazine for a while.
• 43:44
  And then, obviously, Pro Wrestling Illustrated was a big
• 43:46
  one, too. Yeah, we always used to get the
• 43:49
  pro wrestling in the Illustrated or the PW Insider.
• 43:52
  Yeah, I think that one as well. But all any WWE magazines from
• 43:57
  those years, we got like from O5 to I think it was like 2011 or
• 44:01
  2012. On the raw magazines, I remember
• 44:03
  those. Yep.
• 44:05
  It was a Sean poster in the one raw magazine I always wanted.
• 44:08
  I never got it. But like back when Sean just
• 44:10
  broke up with the the Rockers and they had that like him
• 44:13
  looking in the mirror when he just came out with a sexy boy
• 44:15
  gimmick and they had like a big open, like the one you open it
• 44:18
  and had the poster in the middle.
• 44:20
  Every magazine had the poster. I was like my one buddy had it
• 44:22
  and he showed me and I was like, I want that fucking poster.
• 44:26
  I was trying to look for it on eBay or something, but it's
• 44:29
  just, it's so old. Like it's just hard to find in
• 44:32
  good shape. For sure.
• 44:35
  So back to the journal. I read the first book.
• 44:40
  You know, me and my brother read the first book.
• 44:42
  And then it was funny because legit a day after I finished
• 44:46
  that reading the first book in school, we we saw the like the
• 44:52
  post, I think it was on Facebook maybe.
• 44:55
  Or this was back in the day also when wwe.com was still a very
• 44:59
  big thing. Yeah.
• 45:00
  And he would go on there for meet and greets and they would
• 45:04
  legit name off what superstars where to meet them and all that
• 45:08
  kind of stuff. And most of the time it was all
• 45:10
  in the city, so I believe. That wasn't wasn't WB world
• 45:15
  still a thing the the restaurant place was that.
• 45:18
  Still a thing around that time. Or was it gone?
• 45:20
  It was, it was, it was gone. I think in O1 or O2.
• 45:24
  I never so real fast. This is going to blow your mind.
• 45:26
  I've never been to the city. Ever.
• 45:29
  I've, I've been, I've been to Dominican Republic, I've been to
• 45:32
  London, I've been to California, Colorado.
• 45:36
  I'm 3 1/2 hours, 2 1/2 hours away from New York City.
• 45:39
  I've never been to the city. I'd have no idea what it's like.
• 45:42
  I've been upset. I've never you let me know when
• 45:44
  you would like to plan a trip and left hand man will take you
• 45:47
  around the city. I don't.
• 45:49
  All right, I want to go see a battle club show like where they
• 45:51
  do the battle clubs with red. Right.
• 45:55
  I, I, I, I'm going to sound stupid, but I'm just being
• 45:58
  honest. I'm being, I'm being vulnerable
• 46:00
  right now. I don't know how to do public
• 46:02
  transportation. I'm where I live, I've never
• 46:05
  been on a train or a bus or a subway.
• 46:06
  I don't know how any of that shit works.
• 46:08
  Fair enough, I got you though. Don't worry.
• 46:10
  You don't have to pay a little extra fee though, you know, poor
• 46:13
  guide, tour guide, left hand man but.
• 46:16
  I'll buy you some beer. Well, we'll convince about that
• 46:18
  later. All right.
• 46:21
  So yeah, So literally legit, the day after I read Jericho's first
• 46:25
  book, my brother told me Jericho has a new book coming out and
• 46:29
  he's going to be in the city at Borders.
• 46:32
  Borders, I think, was the books. I think that's the name of the
• 46:34
  bookstore that used to be around.
• 46:36
  So I was like, hell yeah, let's go.
• 46:38
  We went. He signed the book for us, sat
• 46:42
  down, took a picture and all that kind of stuff.
• 46:44
  And any time we met wrestlers and they would sign something
• 46:51
  and they'd ask what name do you want it to be signed?
• 46:54
  We always used our gimmick names at the time.
• 46:55
  I love that. So my brother was my brother's
• 46:58
  Dom, the Dom, the Godfather professional wrestling me.
• 47:01
  I was Vinnie the Guinea. Hey, don't.
• 47:03
  So. That's what.
• 47:05
  Only we can say that. Only we can say.
• 47:07
  That yes, only Star Wars. He looked at the names and he's
• 47:14
  like Dom the Don Vinny, the Guinea, what what are these
• 47:18
  names? And we're like, Oh, we're
• 47:19
  wrestlers, you know, so he basically just like stopped the
• 47:24
  line for 20 minutes and just talked to us and just basically
• 47:28
  he spoke to my brother more because obviously my brother was
• 47:31
  older, so and I was just a younger brother at the time.
• 47:35
  And it was like, look, like this is what this is the plans, which
• 47:39
  you guys, if you really want to do this, this is a few things
• 47:42
  that you can just a few ways that you can go about it.
• 47:44
  And at the end it was like, I hope to to see you down the down
• 47:48
  the line on your journey. So that's to me, me being now
• 47:52
  where I am and still in it and still going towards all my
• 47:57
  dreams and aspirations and goals.
• 47:59
  That is Jericho Cruz's is like my goal for next year, my
• 48:05
  buddies. And played the cruise that's.
• 48:08
  Awesome. Yeah, they were on, they were on
• 48:10
  this cruise. They played The One Show.
• 48:12
  And I'm so bummed, but my buddy brought me back to Jericho.
• 48:14
  Like I, I, I kind of, I don't want to say I fell out of love
• 48:19
  with Jericho. I'm the guy.
• 48:22
  Sometimes if, if depending on what you do outside the ring or
• 48:25
  what you're involved in, it does diminish you a little bit in my
• 48:27
  eyes. So there's certain aspects of
• 48:30
  Jericho that I, I did fall out of love with.
• 48:32
  But Jericho, Sean Sean's always is, is my #1 Mick Foley's are my
• 48:37
  number 2. And Jericho always bounces in
• 48:39
  and out of the top five. But he was always someone I
• 48:41
  really, really, really enjoyed. Like just in the ring, he was
• 48:46
  just unbelievable. And just the way he can reinvent
• 48:48
  himself and stuff. I love AW.
• 48:50
  But towards the end there he was, he was, he was tougher to
• 48:53
  watch. But yeah, Jericho is a GOAT man.
• 48:55
  He's one of the best. Yeah, I I hated him growing up.
• 48:59
  I legit hated him. Really.
• 49:01
  I was a a Cena fan, bro. Like, you know, Yeah, yeah.
• 49:04
  Yeah. So.
• 49:05
  I I miss a lot of Cena's run. So that was the Cena.
• 49:08
  Like the ruthless aggression areas.
• 49:10
  When I got out of wrestling and I became a giant MMA fan, I was
• 49:13
  only watching UFC. And then I came back to
• 49:16
  wrestling about around the time I started the podcast up, so
• 49:18
  like 8 years ago. Like they're like, yo, if you,
• 49:21
  you should get back into wrestling, there's two guys
• 49:22
  you're going to love. And I'm like, all right, who are
• 49:24
  they? And they're like Daniel Bryant
• 49:25
  and CM Punk. And I was like, all right, cool,
• 49:27
  I'll turn into this week's Royal Rumble and I'll watch this
• 49:29
  Rumble. And then immediately after that
• 49:31
  rumble, they were gone. They were just gone forever.
• 49:33
  And I was like, well, now what do I do?
• 49:38
  And then I just had to find new people to like, but yeah.
• 49:41
  And then I just got back in and I was like, come on, this is,
• 49:42
  this is a lot of fun. It, it makes me feel young
• 49:44
  again. It makes me feel like a kid.
• 49:46
  I, I, I do like when I have those moments in wrestling where
• 49:49
  I, I get that, that juice where I'm like, oh, they, they got me,
• 49:52
  'cause it's not, I watch so much of it, it's hard to get me, you
• 49:55
  know what I mean? PPWI had that moment this
• 49:58
  weekend where I, I, I legit got that feeling where I like when,
• 50:02
  when Jaeger in the ladder match where he picked up Sean Smith
• 50:06
  and he, he had him in the crossbody and then took the next
• 50:08
  step up and the entire crowd just gasped.
• 50:11
  That got me. I was like, oh, This is why I
• 50:13
  love wrestling. That fact that that one moment
• 50:16
  they had where the whole crowd was like, Oh my God, he just
• 50:19
  took a step up. Like that's why I love this
• 50:21
  business, like right there. 1000% Oh yeah.
• 50:27
  So, goals you have set for yourself personally and in the
• 50:29
  industry. Personally, finances keep all
• 50:35
  that in check. Also keeping my body, getting my
• 50:40
  body into a better physique like I can, I'm in, I feel like I'm
• 50:45
  in the best shape of my life, you know?
• 50:48
  But now just getting my body to the next step physique wise, and
• 50:52
  I'm sure I could be in better shape too, you know,
• 50:56
  professionally. Jericho Cruz Definitely.
• 51:01
  I feel like that to me is what I need to that.
• 51:05
  That's like my North Star at the moment, you know, You might.
• 51:09
  Want to hit that up soon because if he re signs if the rumors are
• 51:12
  true that he's going back to the EI, don't know if they're going
• 51:14
  to let him do the cruise. There's still.
• 51:16
  Why not? Because WB is weird about doing
• 51:19
  outside stuff outside the business.
• 51:21
  Is it them? Sometimes.
• 51:24
  I guess however, like, but it's still his cruise, you know,
• 51:28
  like, yeah, it's like saying I don't know how to put that into
• 51:33
  like a comparison, but it's like.
• 51:36
  Newer newer WE is probably a lot laxer.
• 51:38
  But what if it was a VIN situation?
• 51:40
  I don't know if they would allow Jericho to the.
• 51:42
  Cruise, of course, yeah. But then like, it's like saying,
• 51:45
  oh, we can't send our top guy to go to to go away for six months
• 51:49
  to film a movie. Yeah.
• 51:51
  Granted, it's a different thing, but it's still his.
• 51:57
  It's his business, you know, like that's where I feel like it
• 51:59
  there. They would still be open to it
• 52:01
  because it's his business outside of it, you know?
• 52:05
  I'm I'm curious how he depending on what his departure.
• 52:10
  I still don't know if he's leaving.
• 52:11
  I think because Jericho's the biggest worker of all time.
• 52:13
  Like he's telling people he might be going back, but it's
• 52:15
  just for him to make a return to AW later because he's very good
• 52:20
  at that as well. But like, I, I'm wondering
• 52:22
  because I don't think they'll be, sends their guys to the
• 52:24
  Jericho crews to go work like AW would.
• 52:27
  Like AW sends 1/4 of their roster and like, oh, go ahead,
• 52:29
  go party with Jericho for a while, go get some content and
• 52:32
  come back. Our roster is deep enough that
• 52:33
  we we, we won't miss you, you know what I mean?
• 52:37
  But I don't know. I don't know if the same thing
• 52:39
  would happen if he left and then try to bring WWE talent OR if
• 52:42
  the AW guys would work with him if Con.
• 52:44
  If he signs back with E, it'd be it's going to be interesting to
• 52:47
  see how that plays out depending on where he goes.
• 52:49
  I think if he was to sign back with the E, it'd still be he
• 52:54
  would be the bridge between the two.
• 52:56
  Yeah, because I mean, I think he's eventually going to go back
• 52:59
  and get in the Hall of Fame and do all of that.
• 53:00
  That's going to happen. Yeah, yeah.
• 53:03
  But like, for instance, there's been shows where you had talent
• 53:07
  from both companies, like indie shows, you know?
• 53:11
  So what? Yeah, it's not an indie.
• 53:15
  It's just his cruise. So it's not televised unless
• 53:18
  they did it like an AW which. Yeah, they would usually
• 53:21
  televised right before they got on, right before they left port.
• 53:24
  They would usually film something in the dock and then
• 53:27
  then they would go on the dock and film and do stuff.
• 53:29
  Yeah. So this is the question.
• 53:33
  Do you get my first singles title at Battlefield?
• 53:37
  That I feel like that's going to be a very monumental moment for
• 53:41
  me personally and obviously professionally.
• 53:44
  Just. Because that, like, like I said,
• 53:49
  battlefield is my home, you know, like that.
• 53:51
  That's where I, I, that's where I got my break in is, is the
• 53:57
  battlefield. And so my first singles title
• 54:00
  definitely before the end of this year.
• 54:03
  That's rough, of course. So we'll get is.
• 54:06
  There a Is there a title you're looking?
• 54:08
  At all, all of them, of course. But however, I am on the futures
• 54:13
  brand, so let me not get ahead of myself.
• 54:16
  Yeah, but like, you know, the futures title, WXW, United
• 54:24
  States title, like those, those two belts are definitely looking
• 54:27
  very nice and promising. So.
• 54:31
  I got my eyes on, I got my eyes on everything, you know, I watch
• 54:34
  it all. Obviously, like I said, this is
• 54:37
  only my first year, first full calendar year technically on the
• 54:41
  Indies and in Battlefield as well.
• 54:45
  So I've been dropping bodies left and right and making
• 54:51
  memories and all that kind of stuff too.
• 54:53
  So it's just a matter of time to put more ass in seats for them
• 54:58
  to come and for me to drop another body to whoever the
• 55:02
  champion is at the time. Left hand man.
• 55:06
  You do, you do conduct yourself very well.
• 55:08
  I you're, you're definitely a good person having the locker
• 55:10
  room. You, you, you just you're,
• 55:12
  you're a good hand like and that all comes with, Hey, we should
• 55:16
  put something on him because he's he's earning that those
• 55:19
  respects. So I think you're well on your
• 55:20
  way and you're doing all the right things from the other side
• 55:23
  of the curtain that maybe the fans don't see.
• 55:25
  You're you're, you're always down to help.
• 55:26
  You're always down to do things, you're always down to work.
• 55:29
  And that, that definitely goes a long way.
• 55:32
  Here's a question that was added to the question list a while ago
• 55:35
  and sometimes I forget to ask it, but now we got it all
• 55:37
  situated. What is your favorite and least
• 55:40
  favorite type of fan? So personally or just in in, in
• 55:51
  general in Gunther? Either one.
• 55:55
  So. You you answer how you want to
• 55:56
  answer. Old fans, bro, I I love old
• 56:01
  fans, OK? Except the guzzlers that decide
• 56:06
  to fucking stalk people outside their hotel room.
• 56:08
  Like to me, like if you're a grown man doing that, you're
• 56:13
  nuts. Like I'd be the first to be to
• 56:17
  pull up myself and fucking knock a guy out, you know?
• 56:19
  Like, yeah, now if it's a kid, different story.
• 56:23
  You know, like, but I feel like kids wouldn't be crazy enough to
• 56:28
  go up to a hotel room. They wait for them in the lobby.
• 56:31
  The parents are coaching them. Exactly.
• 56:34
  But that, that's just bad. Or the airport people where they
• 56:40
  stock the flights and then see who's flying in and then stay
• 56:44
  there. Yeah.
• 56:44
  Yeah, it's nuts. I don't like that either.
• 56:48
  What are some hobbies or interests outside of the
• 56:51
  industry that you're into? I've definitely been into
• 56:54
  fitness. Like honestly, team, like when I
• 56:58
  first started training, that's what really got me back into it.
• 57:00
  Like I said, I was always an active kid.
• 57:01
  I always played sports, whether it was in school or outside of
• 57:05
  school. Like we were always at the park
• 57:07
  every day playing basketball, handball.
• 57:12
  We're always on bikes, scooters, skateboards, all that kind of
• 57:15
  stuff at the skate park. So I was always an active kid,
• 57:18
  always into, you know, not really going to the gym at that
• 57:22
  age but just being active. But starting training again in
• 57:29
  2021 got me back into my fitness journey.
• 57:32
  I used to be a fat fuck. I was 380 lbs when I first
• 57:35
  started. Fat fuck.
• 57:38
  Like out of shave, out of weight, out of breath.
• 57:41
  I couldn't even do 5 push ups bro.
• 57:42
  Like when I first started. Probably not even one good full
• 57:46
  1, you know, So that I give to that school and the trainers
• 57:53
  there and everything because we, we did, we did a whole hour of
• 57:56
  boot camp before we even got in the ring.
• 57:59
  Yeah. So boot camp is just brutal.
• 58:01
  And especially at that time, this was still COVID.
• 58:04
  So the gym clients like 'cause it's in an actual gym called
• 58:10
  Platinum Fitness, the gym clients and the wrestling school
• 58:14
  were always separate until we went into the to the gym for the
• 58:18
  ring. So we'd be doing things in
• 58:21
  hallways without machines. So running laps, any calisthenic
• 58:29
  burpees, push ups, sit ups, all that kind of stuff.
• 58:32
  Body squats. I remember we would firemen
• 58:34
  carry people and squat their body weight, all that kind of
• 58:37
  stuff. So I've been really into fitness
• 58:42
  and like going to the gym, especially now, like I feel like
• 58:45
  it helps me, you know, like it's that's the tone for the day and
• 58:48
  for my mental health too. Like I accomplished like that's
• 58:54
  my baseline for the day. Waking up gym, anything else
• 58:59
  happens. Any bullshit happens.
• 59:01
  It doesn't matter because I'm set for the day.
• 59:04
  I'm at my baseline now. Then there's days where I wake
• 59:09
  up, I'm fucking sore shit and I'm dead because I've been
• 59:13
  working all week last week up until this week, you know, So
• 59:15
  it's like I still make I still find my time to still do my
• 59:19
  hundreds, push up 100 push ups, burpees and squats a day.
• 59:24
  But it's just there's days where I know like I don't go to the
• 59:28
  gym. You might, Vinny Snaps might
• 59:32
  come out, you know. Vinny might snap, yeah.
• 59:36
  Exactly. Are you, are you, are you
• 59:39
  motivated by pop culture at all? Are you a movie, TV, music guy?
• 59:43
  1000% movies. We just saw The Conjuring.
• 59:47
  Me and my girlfriend just saw The Conjuring recently.
• 59:49
  OK movie I, I fucking loved it start to finish.
• 59:55
  The story about it, everything was great to me.
• 59:57
  They're good movies, I just don't like the Warrens.
• 1:00:01
  Fair enough, not a fan. Not a fan of the I think they
• 1:00:03
  were con art. So I love the paranormal
• 1:00:06
  supernatural. I think it's super fun.
• 1:00:08
  I just don't believe in any of it.
• 1:00:10
  OK. Yeah, yeah, I I think, I
• 1:00:12
  thought, I think they're con artists, but the movies are fun
• 1:00:17
  to watch. I just watched the new Jurassic
• 1:00:19
  Park. Jurassic Park, I did not see
• 1:00:21
  that. It's horrible, It's terrible.
• 1:00:24
  That's. That's what I heard.
• 1:00:25
  Yeah, it's not good. I don't like to go.
• 1:00:27
  I like to go into the movies. Even when people tell me their
• 1:00:30
  opinion, I still don't take it, you know, because I like to
• 1:00:34
  watch it myself and there's very few movies that I go to the
• 1:00:38
  theater for. Same like I I could care less
• 1:00:42
  about going to the theater to see.
• 1:00:43
  That a movie dropped like a month ago and it's already on
• 1:00:46
  streaming. So I I'm like, I'll just wait.
• 1:00:48
  I'll wait a month. I'm going to watch Superman
• 1:00:49
  probably tonight. I still haven't seen that.
• 1:00:53
  I heard myth reviews, you know, But I like to give every movie
• 1:00:56
  my own. I'm the same way.
• 1:01:01
  Yeah, I worked. I worked in the theater for many
• 1:01:04
  years. You know, I'm still in the
• 1:01:06
  theater business as well. Like it, it's just nuts.
• 1:01:09
  So. What was your least favorite
• 1:01:12
  movie to work when it was in? I want to say Star Wars.
• 1:01:18
  Yeah. And I'm only going to give you,
• 1:01:20
  I'm going to give you the reason why we're open from Thursday to
• 1:01:22
  Sunday, all fucking all four days we were open pumping.
• 1:01:26
  We had to tell. We had to tell people.
• 1:01:27
  The one time during Star Wars when I worked, I was a high
• 1:01:29
  school kid working, but we had to go in there and tell people
• 1:01:31
  to. They had to take their seats
• 1:01:33
  because they were in the aisles and in the front by the screen.
• 1:01:35
  Lightsaber fighting grown like, and they weren't doing it to be
• 1:01:39
  funny. They were.
• 1:01:40
  Yeah. I was like, can you, you guys
• 1:01:42
  got to take your seats? Like there's people who are not
• 1:01:44
  nerds who want to actually see it, and they don't want to see
• 1:01:47
  you guys up there rolling around doing shoot fucking lightsaber
• 1:01:52
  fights. Mine was, mine was, I was
• 1:01:56
  telling them earlier, The Polar Express, because I was an
• 1:01:58
  Austrian. I had to clean the theaters and
• 1:02:01
  I by by the end of the week, I fucking hated the hot chocolate
• 1:02:05
  song because you're cleaning the theaters.
• 1:02:07
  It's fucking sticky popcorn and soda and I'm just listening to
• 1:02:11
  Tom Hanks screaming every single day, four times a day, all week.
• 1:02:17
  I'm like, to this day I've still never seen the movie.
• 1:02:19
  I won't. I won't do it.
• 1:02:21
  I hate. It it's a go to Christmas movie,
• 1:02:27
  there was definitely there was definitely movies that old.
• 1:02:31
  Like some of those songs are still ingrained in my brain
• 1:02:34
  like. Madagascar.
• 1:02:36
  I like to move it. Move it?
• 1:02:37
  I heard that 1000 times, yeah. Even at the bowling alley, when
• 1:02:42
  I used to work at the bowling alley, that was the job that I
• 1:02:44
  started working after I debuted. They had a playlist, and it's
• 1:02:49
  the same playlist every day. Anytime I hear a song now in my
• 1:02:56
  head, naturally I know what song is supposed to be playing next
• 1:03:00
  after that one, yet I don't have the playlist on my phone so it's
• 1:03:05
  just shit like that that I still remember.
• 1:03:07
  That's ingrained in my brain. That was that's how it was for
• 1:03:09
  the real commercials. We had TV's in the lobby and the
• 1:03:12
  real commercials were over and over and over.
• 1:03:14
  And I can quote them. Yep, so I work for amci still.
• 1:03:21
  I still do, but my first, that was my first shoot job like.
• 1:03:28
  So if I need one of those fancy popcorn buckets, I hit you up
• 1:03:31
  and then you could bring it to the show for me.
• 1:03:33
  Possibly. OK, good to know.
• 1:03:35
  Depends. Good to know.
• 1:03:37
  What do you mean? No, Hey, I got to I got to cross
• 1:03:40
  state lines with it, bro. Like it's the contraband, bro.
• 1:03:45
  We're crossing straight lines. Now I have to cross three
• 1:03:48
  states. There are two states to get to
• 1:03:49
  you. So that's that's double tax
• 1:03:52
  right there. All right, we'll figure it out.
• 1:03:54
  We will. So I worked at the that was my
• 1:03:59
  first on the books job. I've been working since I was
• 1:04:02
  11, but that was my first ever on the books job at 18.
• 1:04:05
  It was at AMC in Times Square, Empire 25.
• 1:04:09
  What'd you do? The busiest movie theater in
• 1:04:12
  America. And also it was up until I think
• 1:04:17
  like 2020. Oh, no, not even.
• 1:04:20
  I want to say maybe up until like 20, yeah, 20/21 it was the
• 1:04:24
  largest movie theater in America.
• 1:04:27
  Wow, what'd you do? What was your first job off the
• 1:04:29
  books? Cleaning the I was just a
• 1:04:34
  cleaner and a helper of the American Legion in the
• 1:04:37
  neighborhood. Got you.
• 1:04:38
  I worked for an Italian man who owned a pawn shop.
• 1:04:42
  Oh, that's I was a pawn shop. Yeah, I was a pawn shop.
• 1:04:45
  He was the most Italian man I've ever met in my life.
• 1:04:47
  And he was, he was, he was nuts. His pawn shop was definitely a
• 1:04:51
  front. His name was Tom King.
• 1:04:53
  Tom King. Yeah, Tom King, but he he looked
• 1:04:57
  exactly like the pawn shop over in the movie The Crow.
• 1:05:01
  Oh, yell, yell. That's great.
• 1:05:08
  Yeah, yeah. There was more than movies going
• 1:05:10
  out of that building. Good stuff.
• 1:05:16
  Oh, so let's while we're in the topic of movies and television
• 1:05:20
  shows, I need, I need to know your top Italian mobster movies.
• 1:05:27
  Ye. Goodfellas #1.
• 1:05:30
  Yeah, Goodfellas definitely number one.
• 1:05:32
  I'll probably show Bronx tale #2 number trees definitely casino
• 1:05:40
  the actually I'm switching it Goodfellas Donnie Brasco.
• 1:05:46
  As I said, Donny Ross was going to be up there, yeah.
• 1:05:50
  Casino then Bronx Tale and then I guess it have to be, it have
• 1:05:58
  to be fucking Godfather, you know?
• 1:06:01
  Yeah, I love The Godfather, don't get me wrong, great movie.
• 1:06:05
  But when I, when I tell people it's not in my top five, they
• 1:06:08
  get really upset and I'm like, it's just, you got to commit for
• 1:06:12
  that movie. I you watch it and you're like,
• 1:06:14
  OK, it's, it's, it's, it's almost like it's like it, it
• 1:06:16
  stands on its own, but I don't know.
• 1:06:19
  The other ones to me are just more, they're more complete
• 1:06:21
  films and I can watch them and more bite.
• 1:06:22
  Like the Goodfellas to me is just like there's that funny,
• 1:06:25
  there's that serious, there's that fucking Oh my God, I'm
• 1:06:27
  scared. It's it's, there's a lot going
• 1:06:30
  on with that list. The Italian, the Italian not
• 1:06:33
  sorry. I paint houses.
• 1:06:35
  The book was what the, what the hell was the movie called?
• 1:06:37
  The Irishman? That was a good one.
• 1:06:39
  Yeah. The Irish, that's.
• 1:06:41
  It was a great one, however I had to watch it 2 separate
• 1:06:44
  times. Yeah, it's really long.
• 1:06:46
  It's really long. So fun fact my after I left AMC
• 1:06:52
  I worked for a different company called Bow Tie Cinemas out based
• 1:06:55
  out of Ridgefield CT. They were hired.
• 1:07:00
  My company was hired to run the operations for the second ever
• 1:07:05
  Netflix theater. Technically it was the first.
• 1:07:08
  However, now there's 2. They have one in Los Angeles,
• 1:07:11
  one in New York. It's called the Paris Theater.
• 1:07:13
  So this was 20. This was legit right before
• 1:07:17
  COVID. Like I I started working there
• 1:07:19
  September of 2019 and then we shut down in March to do
• 1:07:22
  renovations because there wasn't ADA compliant and, you know,
• 1:07:26
  fucking great old Uncle Sam and New York City likes to to make
• 1:07:30
  their money, you know? Yeah, so we had premiere for The
• 1:07:37
  Irishman at my theater and I will never forget that day.
• 1:07:42
  I made sure haircut, fresh haircut, made sure I took my
• 1:07:49
  suit to the dry cleaners, put my tree piece suit on, had my nice
• 1:07:54
  tie matching with the handkerchief in the pocket, had
• 1:07:58
  the nice jewelry on. Well, not I always had these on,
• 1:08:02
  but if not over the time, you know, had the nice watch, the
• 1:08:06
  nice rings, all that stuff. Because I knew De Niro and
• 1:08:10
  Scorsese were coming to my theater and I was damned if I
• 1:08:15
  did not introduce myself to them.
• 1:08:17
  And you know, we there, there's always the policy where if
• 1:08:20
  anybody comes to the theater for X event, like an event, you
• 1:08:26
  cannot say a word to them. Yeah, I never believed that
• 1:08:31
  because it's like, I get it, but it's like there's just people
• 1:08:38
  like. If I'm in the same vicinity as
• 1:08:41
  the narrow, I'm going to try to shake his hand.
• 1:08:44
  Oh, but that's the I have to hand them the microphones before
• 1:08:47
  going out on stage. So it's like, what am I supposed
• 1:08:50
  to do? Just here you go, like, and just
• 1:08:53
  look like a Jackass? No, I said.
• 1:08:57
  I walked up to them like, hey, hey, Mr. Scorsese, how you
• 1:09:00
  doing? I'm Vincenzo.
• 1:09:01
  I'm the theatre manager here. I'm handing you your microphone,
• 1:09:05
  you know, but is there anything else I could get for you?
• 1:09:08
  We have tea, coffee, whatever. You know, just easing it in that
• 1:09:11
  way. Oh, yeah, I'll take a nice cup
• 1:09:14
  of hot tea. Great.
• 1:09:16
  Cool. Told one of my my subordinates
• 1:09:19
  to go grab it from downstairs and the they brought it up to
• 1:09:23
  me. Here you go, Sir.
• 1:09:24
  Here's your tea. And now we're just, we're just
• 1:09:27
  shooting the breeze. So it was amazing.
• 1:09:30
  Like, he was like, oh, this is a beautiful theater.
• 1:09:32
  I remember coming here when I was a kid, all that kind of
• 1:09:34
  stuff. And I'm like, yeah, you know, I
• 1:09:37
  I I I'm running it now. And I grew up watching all your
• 1:09:41
  all your movies. He's like, yeah.
• 1:09:43
  Which one is your favorite? Hold on.
• 1:09:46
  Let me take a guess. Goodfellas, Huh.
• 1:09:49
  I'm like, of course, yes, Goodfellas.
• 1:09:53
  And I gave him the list. Like you're a funny guy.
• 1:09:57
  So we, you know, we were just, we started convincing and all
• 1:10:00
  that stuff and anytime we have like people from the movie, like
• 1:10:05
  the actors from any movie and I have posters for it, my deal is
• 1:10:11
  to have the actors sign their poster just for my sake.
• 1:10:16
  Like I, I always did 2/1 for the theatre and 1 for me.
• 1:10:20
  And then if like any other, my other, any of my other managers
• 1:10:24
  wanted one, then of course, like we did another premiere for PS
• 1:10:28
  to the boys I love or whatever the hell Netflix movie that was
• 1:10:31
  like the girl chick flick. So all my girl like my girl
• 1:10:35
  managers are going crazy about that.
• 1:10:36
  Like Oh no, where so and so is coming.
• 1:10:40
  We have to meet him. I'm like, all right, relax, I
• 1:10:42
  got you. But then me, so me and Scorsese
• 1:10:46
  just convincing, you know, about different things.
• 1:10:48
  So I asked them, hey, would you mind?
• 1:10:50
  This is like my tradition just to sign these two copies of the
• 1:10:54
  poster for me. Oh, of course.
• 1:10:57
  And then he was like, you want a picture as well?
• 1:11:00
  I'm like, I'm not going to push it to me.
• 1:11:03
  I'm going to cherish this moment more than a picture because I
• 1:11:07
  can live with this, you know, like, of course the picture
• 1:11:10
  would be nice. However, it's just let me just
• 1:11:13
  have this to cherish for the rest of my life, you know?
• 1:11:16
  And he's like, honestly, how old are you?
• 1:11:18
  I think I was 20 or 21 at the time.
• 1:11:22
  And he was like, not many kids your age would have said that to
• 1:11:25
  me. They would have stuck their
• 1:11:28
  phone in my face and just took the picture.
• 1:11:31
  And then I would have had to smack their phone out of the
• 1:11:33
  hand. And then he says, hey, Bob, come
• 1:11:37
  over here. Have you met Vincenzo?
• 1:11:41
  He's the the theater manager here.
• 1:11:44
  He's like, no, I haven't had the pleasure to yet.
• 1:11:46
  He's like, all right, Bob. Vincenzo.
• 1:11:47
  Vincenzo, Bob, I'm like, how you doing, Mr. De Niro?
• 1:11:49
  And then he's like, no, it's Bob.
• 1:11:53
  Hey Bob, this is a friend of ours.
• 1:11:56
  When he said that. When he said that I was dumb bro
• 1:12:02
  I could have died happy off of. That I don't like.
• 1:12:04
  I want to. I want to go cry right now.
• 1:12:05
  I want to go throw up and cry. I legit should on the balcony
• 1:12:13
  for the two hours they were speaking.
• 1:12:16
  I would have jumped off because it's not getting better than
• 1:12:18
  that. Just in awe of of that alone,
• 1:12:21
  you know, like it was not. A virus, so I would have been
• 1:12:25
  like you son of a bitch you going to say that to me?
• 1:12:29
  I. Called my brother legit like as
• 1:12:32
  soon as they left the building. I'm like yo bro, you won't
• 1:12:35
  fucking believe what just happened.
• 1:12:36
  Like, yeah. It was.
• 1:12:38
  Have you ever been to Vegas? No.
• 1:12:41
  All right, so if you ever go to Vegas, make this plan just
• 1:12:44
  because what I'm about to tell you right now in Vegas, you go
• 1:12:46
  to old, you go to Fremont Street, which is the original
• 1:12:48
  strip, not the new strip, the original strip.
• 1:12:50
  And there's an old courthouse and that's essentially the
• 1:12:54
  courthouse that they had all the trials and stuff that
• 1:12:57
  essentially took down the, well, I'll say quote UN quote, took
• 1:13:00
  down the mob in Vegas, essentially just hired them and
• 1:13:03
  made them government workers. But we all know the story there.
• 1:13:07
  But because our our government only got good at being a
• 1:13:10
  government when they essentially dismantled the Italian mob and
• 1:13:13
  they gave them all jobs and taught them how to do the job
• 1:13:15
  the right way. Remember what I told you, bro?
• 1:13:19
  There's no such thing as the mob.
• 1:13:22
  Yeah, I might have it on my shirt and my pants, on my gear
• 1:13:26
  that I wear when I wrestle. However, there's no such thing
• 1:13:30
  as the mob. It is only the families.
• 1:13:32
  It's the family, but the old courthouse they turned into the
• 1:13:36
  mob museum. It is the greatest.
• 1:13:40
  Every time I go to Vegas, I do it every time.
• 1:13:42
  It's it's like 4 floors of like the beginning, the middle, like
• 1:13:47
  there's a whole section that they're like, hey, if you're
• 1:13:50
  not, if you're sensitive to death and gore, don't walk
• 1:13:53
  through here because this is all hit jobs, photos and videos of
• 1:13:57
  hits of like, like like when people got whacked or whatever
• 1:14:02
  it may be. They have bro, they have the,
• 1:14:05
  they had the Valentine's Day massacre wall dismantled and
• 1:14:09
  rebuilt in this place. And then after you're done the
• 1:14:13
  whole tour, like you go down the they said, hey, if you want, go
• 1:14:17
  down the basement. That's a fucking full on
• 1:14:19
  Speakeasy. Oh, that's awesome.
• 1:14:21
  It's the craziest fucking. I love, I love it.
• 1:14:24
  I bought a the box set DVD. It's like 15 DVDs and it's just
• 1:14:28
  like, you name a gangster. They have this whole history,
• 1:14:31
  storylines, everything and like how mob influence movies and
• 1:14:35
  they like all the Italians. I forget exactly what movie it
• 1:14:37
  was, but there was a movie where they're talking about a hit and
• 1:14:41
  they're like, Oh yeah, The guy, he chases him out of the house.
• 1:14:43
  He chases him through the courtyard and then back through.
• 1:14:46
  And then he does this, this and this to him.
• 1:14:48
  And there's a guy there who was hired by the movies to be the
• 1:14:52
  the liaison or like the hey, was this correct?
• 1:14:54
  Was this right? Was this right?
• 1:14:56
  And they shot the. Scene we just came out a few
• 1:14:59
  like last year I think, didn't it well.
• 1:15:01
  No, this is this is AI might have been casino, I don't
• 1:15:04
  remember, but essentially the guy was like, you're doing it
• 1:15:07
  all wrong. This is exactly how the scene
• 1:15:09
  played out. And they're like, well, how the
• 1:15:11
  fuck do you know? He goes because I'm the one who
• 1:15:13
  fucking did the hit and he literally played himself and did
• 1:15:19
  the whole he's like, this is exactly what the the route we
• 1:15:21
  took the whole night. Like he essentially recreated
• 1:15:23
  this murder. I was like, I love.
• 1:15:26
  It. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:29
  Good stuff. I love it.
• 1:15:30
  Mob movies are absolutely my favorite.
• 1:15:31
  But all right, let's get back into this.
• 1:15:35
  That was that was a great segue. If I didn't do that with you, I
• 1:15:37
  would have been remiss. When I do go to Vegas though, I
• 1:15:39
  have to stay with my casinos. Yeah, I don't like casinos.
• 1:15:42
  I don't like gambling. I'm not a gambler.
• 1:15:45
  Neither am I. However, I'm a winner, so yeah,
• 1:15:48
  I don't. I don't plan on disappearing in
• 1:15:50
  Vegas. So yeah, that's why I need to
• 1:15:52
  stay away. Yeah, but definitely do the do
• 1:15:55
  the museum it's. It's it's a monster.
• 1:15:57
  I'll definitely do the museum. And then the second thing is I
• 1:15:59
  have to go see Criss Angel. Yeah, Are you, are you a Criss
• 1:16:03
  Angel guy? You like Criss Angel One?
• 1:16:04
  1000% I met his brother a while back so he told me anytime I
• 1:16:09
  come out to when I make it to Vegas look him up and.
• 1:16:13
  You know, I'm a Penn and Teller. I like Penn and Teller.
• 1:16:16
  OK. Yeah, I really like because I
• 1:16:18
  like when they'll show you how to do a whole trick.
• 1:16:20
  Like my favorite one they do is when they have the giant saw
• 1:16:22
  blade, like industrial saw, and they're cutting stuff and
• 1:16:25
  they're like, this is literally fake.
• 1:16:27
  You just do this, you do this, and then they literally like
• 1:16:29
  look like they cut someone half and they're like, now, now tell
• 1:16:33
  us how we did it. Like they like they literally
• 1:16:34
  show you the whole trick and then add a whole little layer or
• 1:16:36
  they're like, gotcha. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:39
  I I must have watched Penn and Teller bullshit on HBO Max like
• 1:16:42
  100 times. But yes, like by getting back
• 1:16:45
  into it, if you can change one thing about the industry, what
• 1:16:48
  would it be? Oh shit.
• 1:16:57
  I love your Italian brain trying to answer this without getting
• 1:17:00
  in trouble. I'm not one for.
• 1:17:04
  Politics, bro. Like, yeah, that's obviously I'm
• 1:17:09
  I, I conduct business very well. However, I'm not one for the
• 1:17:13
  politics. I'm not a fucking politician,
• 1:17:15
  bro. Yeah, I'm just me, you know?
• 1:17:17
  I'm what you get. Who I am is what you get.
• 1:17:21
  Yeah. The good or the bad, all that
• 1:17:23
  shit, you know? So I mean, I feel like there's a
• 1:17:30
  lot that can be changed, you know, like of course, like
• 1:17:35
  certain, like I feel like certain schools take kids money.
• 1:17:41
  They have no, they have no inhibitions that they're that
• 1:17:44
  you will never be a pro wrestler, but I'm going to take
• 1:17:46
  your money for months. You're a fucking you were extra
• 1:17:50
  on raw in 1996 and now you own a school.
• 1:17:55
  So, you know, shit like that where it's like, OK, like I feel
• 1:17:59
  like that that's the biggest thing because it all starts at
• 1:18:04
  the school, you know, like that's that's one thing Bubble
• 1:18:09
  would always say was people ask like, So what do you think it
• 1:18:13
  goes bad? Like do you think it goes bad at
• 1:18:15
  the top? Like, you know, in when they
• 1:18:17
  make it there or no? His answer is always no.
• 1:18:21
  It's out of school because you have people like that who just
• 1:18:25
  take your money and OK, what do you want to learn today?
• 1:18:29
  Yeah. You want to learn how to do a
• 1:18:31
  dropkick, go right ahead. We'll teach you how to do a
• 1:18:35
  dropkick. You want to learn how to do
• 1:18:37
  Canadian Destroyer? Yeah, we'll teach you how to do
• 1:18:40
  a Canadian Destroyer. You know, like I feel like
• 1:18:43
  that's probably like the biggest thing that comes to mind when I
• 1:18:47
  heard that question. Other than that, I'm sure
• 1:18:51
  there's a we can we can name off shit but.
• 1:18:55
  I, I don't, I, I will say for me personally, I don't like how we
• 1:18:59
  protect people who shouldn't be in the business, but we still
• 1:19:03
  find ways to let them be in the business because either they own
• 1:19:06
  a ring or they own a school or they have something.
• 1:19:09
  But like, if you, if you fucked with kids or with fans and used
• 1:19:14
  your stature to try to game someone or get your Dick wet,
• 1:19:18
  get the fuck out. You know what I mean?
• 1:19:20
  Especially children. If you're fucking with kids, you
• 1:19:23
  can't, you can't fuck with kids and still be in Sesame Street.
• 1:19:26
  At the end of the day, this is still a business for children.
• 1:19:30
  And if you even if you had a sniff of that, get the fuck out
• 1:19:33
  and there's no excuse why you should still be there.
• 1:19:36
  I agree with that. Yeah, I hate it.
• 1:19:38
  I was. Raised.
• 1:19:39
  I hate it so much. No, I was raised by my
• 1:19:42
  stepfather. My stepfather was my father, you
• 1:19:44
  know. Yeah, that he was incarcerated
• 1:19:48
  for majority of his life and that was one thing he never
• 1:19:54
  tolerated. And he always told us, no, don't
• 1:19:58
  ever tolerate any of that shit because that's what he used to
• 1:20:03
  do when he was in there. They'd hunt them and they'd
• 1:20:06
  fucking, you know, they'd go hunting.
• 1:20:08
  Yep, so not a fan. Don't like that's my biggest
• 1:20:12
  thing is like but they used to be on TVI don't care.
• 1:20:15
  Why are they here? Get them out. 1000% get them
• 1:20:18
  out. With that being said, what the
• 1:20:22
  hell was I going to say from that shit?
• 1:20:24
  I don't know what's the segue. What is something you think you
• 1:20:28
  will, you will never really understand about wrestling?
• 1:20:30
  That was a question from the chat.
• 1:20:32
  People will never really understand about wrestling.
• 1:20:35
  It's all an illusion. Yeah, it's magic.
• 1:20:39
  Just like magic, it's all illusion.
• 1:20:41
  It's all an illusion. That's why like it's cool that
• 1:20:45
  I'm starting to now like get back into Magic like I used.
• 1:20:50
  I also I carry a deck of cards on me at all times because
• 1:20:54
  there's times where I'm not a very sociable person like I am.
• 1:20:57
  But people also look at me like, oh, all right, this guy got a
• 1:21:02
  fucking problem. Italian from New York, probably
• 1:21:06
  crazy RBF and very intimidating if I'm just standing there not
• 1:21:11
  saying a word, you know, so, but like it helps me connect with
• 1:21:16
  people in a way that's like, oh shit, you know, I'm they might
• 1:21:20
  not remember my name because if they're in the town, I'm sure
• 1:21:23
  they're going to meet at least 10 Vinnies being in New York,
• 1:21:27
  but they're always remember the magician.
• 1:21:31
  So that that's definitely helped me a lot.
• 1:21:33
  And it's also helping me make connections in in the industry.
• 1:21:36
  You know, like Joe Hendry when I fucking ran into him at Comic
• 1:21:40
  Con, like, oh, shit. Hey, Joe Hendry, how you doing?
• 1:21:44
  Vincenzo? Can I show you a magic trick?
• 1:21:47
  Oh, yeah, sure. I'll do it for my vlog, you
• 1:21:49
  know, so that, you know, like shit like that where it's like,
• 1:21:52
  oh, now maybe he might Remember Me, the magician from Comic Con.
• 1:21:57
  You know, it's just things like that.
• 1:21:58
  Like the Bella Twins. I did, like my friend Tyler told
• 1:22:03
  me, hey, yeah, I'm going to meet the Bella Twins, bro.
• 1:22:05
  You got to come, all right? If I come, I'm going to show
• 1:22:08
  them a fucking magic trick, bro. Like, so it it's cool that I'm
• 1:22:13
  doing it that way as well for the outside and making those
• 1:22:17
  connections in the industry. Totally.
• 1:22:22
  Who asked who asked the question?
• 1:22:23
  Lily. Yeah.
• 1:22:25
  Lily, it's all an illusion. There's certain fucking people
• 1:22:29
  that people still hate each other.
• 1:22:31
  I'm sure there's certain people that still actually shoot hate
• 1:22:34
  each other. However, it's all an illusion.
• 1:22:37
  Yeah, I would say is it's not. And I would even say this for
• 1:22:42
  the top because people think that WB is like the most planned
• 1:22:46
  out, scripted out. We have things figured out for
• 1:22:48
  the next 6 months. Pro wrestling has changed some.
• 1:22:51
  Most times on the fly that day like.
• 1:22:56
  It's. It's so much improv, which I
• 1:23:00
  think is even more impressive because they figure things out
• 1:23:03
  and especially the workers like it.
• 1:23:05
  Like a producer, a agent, a Booker can tell you what they
• 1:23:08
  want and the idea. But for the most part, if you
• 1:23:11
  want the best magic, tell them the idea.
• 1:23:13
  What you want as a Booker, the storyline you wanted to tell,
• 1:23:16
  who you want to win, and let them go do let them paint the
• 1:23:20
  paintbrushes while they're between the ropes.
• 1:23:24
  Yeah, unless. Unless you're taking.
• 1:23:25
  Unless you're taking 45 minutes to paint that paintbrush and
• 1:23:28
  you're only supposed to have 8. Like to me, the best work I've
• 1:23:32
  done is on the fly. Yeah.
• 1:23:35
  And not saying that the shit I do that's not on the fly is not
• 1:23:39
  good or great, it's just it's certain levels to it.
• 1:23:45
  Like Jericho's book, they were wrestling how many fucking
• 1:23:50
  nights a week and just being out there and present in the crowd,
• 1:23:55
  you know, like it's just different.
• 1:24:00
  So I think bringing that back. So my number one thing is that I
• 1:24:06
  always told myself is to bring realism back in wrestling.
• 1:24:09
  Yeah. Like when I think like I
• 1:24:12
  remember my grandfather he would, they believe that shit
• 1:24:15
  then. Like if you watch any of the old
• 1:24:17
  garden shows, they did absolutely nothing in the best
• 1:24:23
  way fucking possible. Like a punch meant something,
• 1:24:28
  one punch meant something. That's why I'm also, I'm very
• 1:24:33
  adamant about how when I, if I do punch in a match, you know,
• 1:24:38
  but I, I do, I do my version of the dusties, you know, don't get
• 1:24:41
  me wrong, but it's just, you know, like bringing the realism
• 1:24:46
  back and wrestling. That's always what I told
• 1:24:47
  myself. It's because, especially now in
• 1:24:50
  today's day of age, everyone knows everything.
• 1:24:55
  Yeah, it's hard to shock people. What are words?
• 1:24:59
  What are words of encouragement for a beginner and trying to
• 1:25:02
  just chase their dreams? Find the best school that you
• 1:25:09
  can. But I'm plugging Battlefield
• 1:25:13
  right in that because from I've trained there a few times, I
• 1:25:17
  wish I was there more often, but due to my car situation I'm not.
• 1:25:23
  That's a hike too. That's like.
• 1:25:25
  Make it out there. Trust me, if there was a way to
• 1:25:27
  make it there by public transportation, I'd be on that
• 1:25:30
  every week. There's no fucking buses that go
• 1:25:33
  out there. There's no trains that go out
• 1:25:34
  there. And once you get to
• 1:25:35
  Pennsylvania, you're like, public what?
• 1:25:37
  Even if I took a bus out there, I'd still have to find a way
• 1:25:40
  from said bus to the closest bus is like an hour and a half away
• 1:25:45
  regardless of anything. So it's stuff like that.
• 1:25:48
  But This is why when people say I don't know, like you don't
• 1:25:50
  know how to do public, we don't have that out here.
• 1:25:54
  But yeah, Battlefield is definitely a great school just
• 1:25:58
  because Alpha, his mind is completely.
• 1:26:01
  He knows his shit and he's part of the most prestigious
• 1:26:08
  wrestling family there is in this business that predate the
• 1:26:11
  Mcmahons. Like, yeah, so especially his
• 1:26:16
  dad, I never got the chance to meet him.
• 1:26:18
  God rest his soul, you know? But like, he has that same mind,
• 1:26:25
  you know? Have you played?
• 1:26:28
  The two K 25 yet? What happened?
• 1:26:31
  Have you played the two K 25 yet?
• 1:26:34
  25 I don't think so. Or maybe.
• 1:26:35
  So I I just got it and the whole storyline is the bloodline
• 1:26:39
  storyline where you go back and change the history.
• 1:26:41
  I just did the Steiners versus the Head shrinkers in Vegas when
• 1:26:45
  they wrestled in Vegas. Oh my God, so much fun.
• 1:26:47
  That's fire. But yeah, I would say find a
• 1:26:51
  good school, a very reputable school in your hometown, and no
• 1:26:58
  matter how hard you think it is, it will get harder.
• 1:27:01
  It's just up to you and your determination to make it
• 1:27:04
  through. Yeah.
• 1:27:06
  Because this shit ain't for everybody at all.
• 1:27:10
  I remember I was when I first was learning how to bump, they
• 1:27:17
  would tell me to go and they will tell me when to stop.
• 1:27:21
  I remember there was a veteran that came to the school.
• 1:27:25
  He was a world renowned veteran and he saw me.
• 1:27:30
  I always saw him at shows beforehand like you know, doing
• 1:27:33
  wrinkle and stuff. And you always say, you know, I
• 1:27:36
  always say hi, how you doing? You know, it's part of the
• 1:27:38
  business. But that day he never forgot my
• 1:27:40
  name to every show afterwards because he saw me go into the
• 1:27:44
  ring. Me at my size back then when I
• 1:27:47
  first started 38380. Sorry. 380. 388 don't at at
• 1:27:55
  least 75 to 100 bumps per class. Just bump and feet.
• 1:28:02
  Bump, get up, bump and feet. Boom.
• 1:28:04
  And I'm not even I'm not even taking anything from anybody me
• 1:28:07
  just taking my own bumps. Get up, bump, get up, bump, get
• 1:28:09
  up and ever show every show after that class I've seen him
• 1:28:14
  at, he always remembered my name because even that day afterwards
• 1:28:18
  he told me he's like how like, well, I'm young and two, I'm
• 1:28:24
  being told to do it. So I'm doing, you know, like
• 1:28:27
  also be coachable. That's that's, I feel like
• 1:28:30
  that's the biggest one of them all.
• 1:28:32
  Yeah, who? Not on the list, but just one
• 1:28:35
  last one before I ask the last question here.
• 1:28:36
  Who was of a seminar you attended?
• 1:28:38
  Because I know off of school you get a lot of cool names showing
• 1:28:40
  up here and there. What What was one of your
• 1:28:42
  favorite seminars you were part of?
• 1:28:45
  Jacob Fall, too. That wasn't.
• 1:28:47
  That wasn't at Battlefield, either.
• 1:28:49
  That was at a promotion called GSW Global Syndicate Wrestling.
• 1:28:54
  Jacobs. Jacobs got to be such a good
• 1:28:56
  because like, he could teach you life and wrestling like that guy
• 1:28:59
  pulled him up himself out of nothing.
• 1:29:01
  You know what I mean? I love Jacobs.
• 1:29:03
  So that's how the promoter paid us for our time.
• 1:29:09
  I always drove the ring truck and he to any show that we that
• 1:29:13
  Team 3D was a part of. I drove the ring truck, of
• 1:29:18
  course. Of course there was before.
• 1:29:19
  There was the guys before me that were still there, like our
• 1:29:22
  elders. Gio Galvano was the ring truck
• 1:29:25
  guy then. Yeah.
• 1:29:28
  I told him like, hey, bro, if it's too much for you, I can do
• 1:29:32
  it. You know, like for you to drive
• 1:29:34
  the ring truck and for you to do all that shit and then wrestle
• 1:29:37
  and then, you know, all that whole thing.
• 1:29:39
  I'm like, I can help you out. I mean, I don't mind it.
• 1:29:42
  All right, cool. So we drove the ring truck.
• 1:29:46
  He picked up the truck because I I was still under 25 so they
• 1:29:50
  would have charged me an arm and a leg for it.
• 1:29:53
  We at this time the our travel ring was Tommy Dreamers ring.
• 1:29:58
  It was the same ring you used for House of Hardcore and.
• 1:30:00
  All that House of hardcore. So GSW rented it for that
• 1:30:07
  weekend. It was the weekend of August
• 1:30:09
  20th and 21st. I'll never forget because my
• 1:30:13
  sister's birthday was August 20th or is August 20th.
• 1:30:17
  So we picked up the ring in Danbury at the storage unit on
• 1:30:21
  Thursday, loaded it up Thursday, drove it back to my house which
• 1:30:25
  is an hour away from Danbury. Parked it there overnight, then
• 1:30:31
  the next morning got up at the crack ass early of dawn.
• 1:30:34
  Drove that ring truck from my house to Asbury Park, NJ in the
• 1:30:40
  House of Independence. That was the the venue.
• 1:30:43
  So we got the ring set up and everything.
• 1:30:46
  There was 2 shows. It was Friday, Saturday.
• 1:30:48
  So I left the ring there. I literally drove there, set it
• 1:30:52
  up and left because my sister's birthday.
• 1:30:55
  We got to go celebrate sister's birthday.
• 1:30:57
  So went up there and then went back the next day.
• 1:31:02
  Your your The next day your phone did the emoji because you
• 1:31:05
  talk with your hands as you're Italian.
• 1:31:07
  Yeah. You did like that.
• 1:31:11
  Yeah, it was great. So the promoter basically said I
• 1:31:16
  don't really have any money to give you guys so you guys can do
• 1:31:20
  the seminar for free. Oh, love that.
• 1:31:22
  And that that's better. That's that's better than money.
• 1:31:25
  1000% hell yeah. And it, like I said, everything
• 1:31:30
  in this wrestling world, everything does come full circle
• 1:31:34
  and I've firm believer of that. When awful used to bring a lot
• 1:31:39
  of people in for PPW for seminars, I would obviously I'm
• 1:31:42
  not a wrestler. So the seminar, like for me when
• 1:31:45
  it comes to the in ring stuff, it's nothing for me.
• 1:31:48
  Like I can't really get much out of it in the physicality aspect,
• 1:31:51
  but I would just watch. I would just sit in the corner
• 1:31:54
  and I'd watch. I'd be doing commentary notes,
• 1:31:57
  but I'd be literally watching and just listening to what
• 1:31:59
  they're saying and what they're teaching because like I'm
• 1:32:01
  learning. Oh, that's why they step with
• 1:32:03
  that. That's why they do this.
• 1:32:04
  Why learning the engine so I can be a better mine for the
• 1:32:08
  business. And man, some of the people he
• 1:32:10
  like. Luke Gallows was so good.
• 1:32:13
  Brian Kendrick was amazing. Unfortunately, he's no longer in
• 1:32:16
  the business because of, you know, he got in trouble or
• 1:32:18
  whatever it may be, but but Davy Richards was unreal, unreal.
• 1:32:23
  Jay Lethal was unbelievable, like just good.
• 1:32:26
  I love seminars. I love just watching them and
• 1:32:28
  seeing people react and how they go through them.
• 1:32:30
  Oh 1000% like so I I soak up all knowledge.
• 1:32:34
  I'm a sponge. Also my time at Team three DI
• 1:32:38
  was I was the newest recruit I guess, or young boy, however you
• 1:32:42
  want to, whatever turn on you want to use.
• 1:32:45
  So anytime Bubba had a show on the Indies or like any show he
• 1:32:49
  had, I was the one working his table with him.
• 1:32:52
  So at the ECW Arena, I was there and they did like, they, they
• 1:32:56
  had like the con, the icons of wrestling con like meet and
• 1:33:00
  greet shit before the actual show.
• 1:33:02
  So everybody that's the top of the industry is there.
• 1:33:07
  And most of them would go out to the diner right there afterwards
• 1:33:11
  and I'm just sitting at the table with all of them saying
• 1:33:15
  nothing. Absolutely.
• 1:33:16
  Nothing. Just listen.
• 1:33:17
  Just listen. Eating my food and just
• 1:33:18
  listening and soaking up all the knowledge that I possibly can
• 1:33:21
  from that aspect of it. So there's not many seminars
• 1:33:26
  I've done even. I mean, I I attended the Kurt
• 1:33:32
  Angle long for at House of Glory, but even at that I didn't
• 1:33:37
  really get involved in the ring. I want to go to the House of
• 1:33:40
  Glory show. I want to experience the House
• 1:33:41
  of Glory show. Tremendous.
• 1:33:44
  They're so good. It it's scary like, so another
• 1:33:49
  philosophical moment like when I eventually wrestle for House of
• 1:33:53
  Glory. All the guys that we used to
• 1:33:55
  wrestle in the park with were trained by Red like, So that was
• 1:34:01
  the first school that was ever brought to our attention.
• 1:34:05
  And a few years ago I was working security for the Eminem
• 1:34:10
  Show at Governor's Ball. Governor's Ball is like a big
• 1:34:13
  music festival they have on Randall's Island and in
• 1:34:16
  Manhattan. And I remember seeing there was
• 1:34:19
  a guy trying to come through the gate that my boss has told me
• 1:34:23
  nobody gets to fucking come to this gate.
• 1:34:27
  Guy. Gold, gold, 9 gold, diamonds all
• 1:34:30
  over his neck with his daughter. And he had the pat the Eminem
• 1:34:34
  family pass trying to come to the gate.
• 1:34:38
  One of the other guards was like, no, nobody's allowed to
• 1:34:41
  come to this gate. I'm like, so I come over.
• 1:34:44
  I'm like, hey, how you doing? What's going on?
• 1:34:45
  Oh, he has to pass. Yeah, come on.
• 1:34:48
  And then by the twinkle in my eye from his diamonds, I saw a
• 1:34:52
  HOG chain. I'm like, HOG Isn't that House
• 1:34:55
  of glory? He's like, yeah, I'm like, oh
• 1:34:57
  shit. I'd like what do you, you know,
• 1:34:59
  what do you do for House of Glory?
• 1:35:01
  He's like, I don't remember if he was part owner or if he was
• 1:35:05
  just a part of it. And that's the first time I ever
• 1:35:08
  met Westside Gunn. Oh yeah.
• 1:35:11
  So I I did a show in Philly, WrestleMania weekend.
• 1:35:15
  I was doing commentary at Suplex Vintage Wrestling and he was
• 1:35:17
  doing autograph signings. That's the biggest show I've
• 1:35:19
  ever worked. It was like 2000 people there.
• 1:35:21
  It was the craziest wrestling show I've ever done in my life.
• 1:35:24
  And now he has 4th row, yeah. 4th row, yeah.
• 1:35:27
  Definitely on my radar. Well.
• 1:35:29
  PPW used to be the the feeder school for House of Glory when
• 1:35:33
  when the students didn't they couldn't get on House of Glory
• 1:35:36
  shows because they were still too new.
• 1:35:38
  They all went to PPW and and and earned their chops back when P.
• 1:35:41
  So PPW went from a church in Hazleton to Broadheadsville and
• 1:35:45
  then Broadheadsville to Slatington.
• 1:35:47
  Listen to this lineup. This is who used to roll through
• 1:35:49
  from House of Glory to start their journey at PPW, Rembrandt,
• 1:35:54
  Evander, James Charles Mason, the main event case.
• 1:35:59
  Well Casey Navarro wasn't a House of Glory guy but he
• 1:36:01
  started his like early journey at the PPW side.
• 1:36:04
  Amazing Rudd came in. I mean Casey Navarro, when an
• 1:36:07
  amazing red worked a match, it was unbelievable.
• 1:36:10
  On that was the first ever time I met Casey.
• 1:36:14
  Yeah, Casey was, he was a PPW guy in the really early days.
• 1:36:16
  I love Casey. I actually met Casey.
• 1:36:18
  I I went and watched Casey Russell when I went to London
• 1:36:20
  two years ago when he was, he wrestled for Defy and beyond.
• 1:36:24
  He wrestled Nick Wayne. And I just like to go across the
• 1:36:27
  pond and see Casey wrestle in another country.
• 1:36:29
  Was super sick. But yeah, man, Oh my God, that
• 1:36:31
  was our cool days. But like that whole the whole
• 1:36:34
  roster big game, Leroy Bones, all those House of Glory guys
• 1:36:38
  were all early PPW guys and Charles Mason was one of the
• 1:36:42
  coolest dudes. Like he's killing her right now.
• 1:36:44
  I love. That he's on a whole nother
• 1:36:46
  level at this moment, at this so good.
• 1:36:49
  I watched that guy go babyface heel babyface heel in one Rumble
• 1:36:53
  and the crowd bought into it every single time.
• 1:36:56
  That's amazing. He's so good.
• 1:36:58
  He's so good. All right, last question and
• 1:37:00
  we'll get you out of here. What are you grateful for and
• 1:37:03
  are you currently happy? I'm grateful for the people I
• 1:37:07
  have in my life for both professional and personal.
• 1:37:11
  Everybody, my whole team, my family, my team is my family at
• 1:37:14
  the end of the day. But everybody that is in my life
• 1:37:18
  I'm I'm grateful for. I'm grateful that I get to do
• 1:37:21
  what I want. I'm grateful I'm still alive.
• 1:37:26
  Like where I come from, there's friends of mine that have died
• 1:37:30
  at a very young age from street violence, from drug addiction,
• 1:37:36
  from just a whole 9 yards. So I'm, I'm, I thank God
• 1:37:40
  everyday that I'm still able to, to be alive and to have my
• 1:37:47
  family around, you know, like my stepfather died at a young, like
• 1:37:52
  I was 15. But even at that, like that
• 1:37:56
  brought us closer. But still like, you know, broke
• 1:37:59
  the family up in a way. But like everybody that's in my
• 1:38:04
  life now is why I'm still here, you know, like my godmother, my
• 1:38:10
  my mother, my sister, my brother, my nephew.
• 1:38:13
  That's honestly what I do this year for bro.
• 1:38:15
  Like I do this for him. Godparents are the only like
• 1:38:18
  Italians are the only ones who like honor that godparent thing
• 1:38:22
  like every other cultures. Like who's your godmother?
• 1:38:24
  Like what the hell is that? I'm like, oh, OK, that's just an
• 1:38:27
  Italian thing. But like, for real, like every.
• 1:38:32
  It's just like, I know without them I wouldn't be where I am
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  today, you know, like of course I'm sure I would still be me,
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  but what version of that, You know, like, I wouldn't know cuz
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  I'd, you know, like. But yeah, that's what I'm
• 1:38:52
  grateful for. I'm grateful for my family, me
• 1:38:56
  being able to do what I do. I'm grateful for Battlefield for
• 1:38:58
  giving me the opportunity to join them and to show off my
• 1:39:03
  talents and and still haven't there's.
• 1:39:07
  I'm not even at the cusp yet of what I know I can do.
• 1:39:11
  Yeah, I agree with that. There actually is one more
• 1:39:16
  question and I'm literally looking at your name and I'm
• 1:39:18
  like, I didn't ask this and I'm an idiot.
• 1:39:19
  Where does left hand man come from?
• 1:39:21
  Where does that? Where do you pull from for that?
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  I'm a lefty. That's it.
• 1:39:25
  That that that's the Canon of it.
• 1:39:26
  Like legit I'm I'm a lefty so but in everyone knows the right
• 1:39:33
  hand man. Yeah.
• 1:39:36
  The boss has the right hand man, but nobody ever talks about the
• 1:39:40
  left hand man. The left hand.
• 1:39:42
  Man is the one who's behind the scenes handling business, so in
• 1:39:47
  the event shit goes down and people get pinched, everything
• 1:39:53
  gets blamed on the right hand man.
• 1:39:54
  It's also my position in the family as well.
• 1:39:58
  So yes, I'm a lefty, but it's my position in the family that I
• 1:40:00
  hold. Yeah, the left hand man's the
• 1:40:02
  guy who runs the front of the butcher shop and people think
• 1:40:05
  he's the butcher, but he's the one that when the right hand man
• 1:40:08
  goes to jail, he's the one that keeps it alive.
• 1:40:10
  I have some left hand man in my life, in my family.
• 1:40:13
  I like that dude. Italians are super simple.
• 1:40:15
  Like I used to Tony two time. Like, why does he?
• 1:40:18
  Why do you call him that? Oh, because he says everything
• 1:40:19
  twice. Like it's just it's just that
• 1:40:21
  easy. Gotta go.
• 1:40:22
  Get the papers, get the papers you.
• 1:40:26
  Know well listen your family and everyone who brought you up and
• 1:40:29
  your and your story. Thank you so much for telling
• 1:40:31
  that to me. Every show behind the scenes,
• 1:40:33
  I'm going to break cave with great hugger Vincenzo.
• 1:40:37
  Great hugger. He's a good body to hug.
• 1:40:39
  It's very warm, it's very comforting.
• 1:40:41
  Love him to. Death.
• 1:40:42
  I, I seen Mama Vincenzo was in the chat.
• 1:40:44
  Thank you for hanging out. You, you got a good son here.
• 1:40:47
  He's, he's a great kid. But I, I, I agree.
• 1:40:50
  I think you're only just get on the start, but I think your
• 1:40:53
  mentality and the way you conduct yourself is, is top
• 1:40:55
  notch and I, I look forward to it.
• 1:40:58
  And the day you get that title shot, I will be at battle club
• 1:41:02
  battlefield. Sorry, I get them confused.
• 1:41:03
  Battlefield, battle battlefield, try to support you and and be
• 1:41:08
  there. I'm I'm a big fan of you as a
• 1:41:10
  human and as a performer, and I can't wait this.
• 1:41:13
  I can't wait to do more with you.
• 1:41:15
  I appreciate the kind where it's at.
• 1:41:17
  Always, always, Where can people find and support you?
• 1:41:20
  So all my social. Medias young mobster YVNG
• 1:41:24
  Mobstar. Because I am a mob star, not a
• 1:41:28
  mobster. You know, there's a difference.
• 1:41:33
  proprowrestlingtees.com/lefthand man, I think yeah.
• 1:41:37
  Slash left hand man. Bring a 2X to the next show if
• 1:41:40
  you have any. I got you.
• 1:41:42
  I just placed an order so I'm waiting.
• 1:41:44
  On pro wrestling Tees to. Send them out and get them
• 1:41:48
  delivered to me at a timely fashion.
• 1:41:50
  If now I'm going to have to go to Chicago and fucking shake
• 1:41:52
  some, shake some trees, you know, or or you can go to my
• 1:41:56
  merge page and find a shirt you like and send me which send me a
• 1:41:59
  screenshot of the size. And color you want, I'll order
• 1:42:01
  one and we can do a shirt change, shirt exchange if you
• 1:42:04
  want Jersey also, I'm going to break the news.
• 1:42:09
  Here, oh, I'm going to break the news here.
• 1:42:12
  Breaking news ABJ podcast so. Left hand man.
• 1:42:16
  Is a magician. And I always have a.
• 1:42:19
  Deck of card zombies. However, I'm also a professional
• 1:42:23
  wrestler, sports entertainer, whatever flavor of ice cream,
• 1:42:27
  whatever name you like to call it in this day of age.
• 1:42:30
  So with that being said, left hand man trading cards now
• 1:42:35
  available at a show near you. They will be available at
• 1:42:39
  Battlefield, Battlefield Rumble on.
• 1:42:44
  We're in September, right? I'm not bugging or September
• 1:42:47
  28th for the Battlefield Rumble. Left hand man's playing.
• 1:42:52
  Cards will be available for purchase.
• 1:42:55
  So is the little sneak peek or I don't even know if that's fully
• 1:43:00
  I don't know how to do this. I see it looks good.
• 1:43:02
  I'm not a vlogger so I got the the cards coming.
• 1:43:06
  Down and then the. Back is the best part of it
• 1:43:11
  because it looks like a box of Bicycle cards so bullet holes in
• 1:43:18
  there. I like it.
• 1:43:20
  Left hand man trading cards so. Sick I love it.
• 1:43:24
  I'm I'm stuck. I just got.
• 1:43:25
  Business cards, but they're not as cool I just got.
• 1:43:28
  The Super simple I have so I have the business card and
• 1:43:31
  because I'm a a nerd, so this is the card, right?
• 1:43:33
  And then there's just the QR code in the back.
• 1:43:36
  But I made AI made a Chase version when I got me as it's
• 1:43:39
  like a tarot card. But it's yeah, I, I commissioned
• 1:43:43
  an artist to make me a little devil.
• 1:43:45
  But yeah. That's pretty fire, but I will
• 1:43:50
  everyone please though. I have your.
• 1:43:51
  I have your. Instagram link below but you
• 1:43:53
  also. Not only did you maybe have to
• 1:43:55
  change the name, but put like make a link tree and put all
• 1:43:58
  your stuff on one thing and put that in your Instagram bio so
• 1:44:00
  people can go and and find your pro wrestling Tees and stuff.
• 1:44:02
  Because if you, if I go to your Instagram bio like you did my
• 1:44:06
  last name, you would have seen the, you would have seen the.
• 1:44:08
  I didn't. See a link tree in there?
• 1:44:10
  I would have put it in there. Would you have?
• 1:44:13
  Did you have? All right, let me.
• 1:44:14
  Ask you a question. Did you have to look right now?
• 1:44:16
  I'm, I'm, I'm looking. I'm looking right now.
• 1:44:18
  If there's a link tree in there, I'm going to shoot.
• 1:44:19
  I'm going to be really upset. But I, I.
• 1:44:21
  Did not see a link tree. There is a link tree.
• 1:44:24
  There's a link tree. There's a link tree in there all
• 1:44:28
  right. I will add.
• 1:44:29
  It as soon as this is done to the to the stream so you guys
• 1:44:34
  can find it below it's 100 link tree and that's LINKT dot EE
• 1:44:40
  slash vinmob 2BS2BS2BS I will I. Will update that.
• 1:44:48
  Immediately I'll put. That in there right now.
• 1:44:51
  I did not see it in there telling you you weren't wearing
• 1:44:55
  your readers. I wasn't wearing the readers.
• 1:44:57
  I was like, this guy does not have a link tree.
• 1:44:58
  He's got to get it. Together here it was there the.
• 1:45:00
  Whole time how you doing all right ladies and.
• 1:45:06
  Gentlemen, that's going to. Do it for us.
• 1:45:08
  Thank you so much for tuning in. My computer's so slow.
• 1:45:11
  I can't do this right now. I'm gonna mess everything up.
• 1:45:13
  We'll see you guys next time. Here's some music by the
• 1:45:16
  Converse. Kid.
• 1:45:17
  We're outta here. Oh, we'll be.
• 1:45:19
  I will be. I don't know what's going on
• 1:45:20
  this Thursday. There may be a show coming this
• 1:45:22
  Thursday. I don't know if we're doing a
• 1:45:24
  tornado tag or if we're doing a a football live stream.
• 1:45:27
  But next Tuesday, I will have on my buddy Chuck.
• 1:45:31
  We're gonna be doing a horror movie review.
• 1:45:33
  We haven't nailed down what horror movie we're gonna do.
• 1:45:36
  And then the following Tuesday, she was in the chat earlier, but
• 1:45:40
  we're going to have a super fan on the podcast, so make sure you
• 1:45:45
  guys tune in for that one. I'll put the I'll put the stream
• 1:45:47
  up very soon or the the flyer, but that's going to do it.
• 1:45:50
  Here's some music by the conference kid.
• 1:45:52
  We'll see you next time.