Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Thune and Johnson on if they take any responsibility for the government shutdown
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- 0:00Speaker 1: House Speaker Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thune
- 0:03Speaker 1: are speaking out on day three of the government shut down. Today,
- 0:07Speaker 1: the two top Republican leaders. They held a press conference
- 0:10Speaker 1: just hours ahead of a crucial vote in the Senate
- 0:13Speaker 1: to reopen federal doors. All eyes will be on lawmakers
- 0:16Speaker 1: to see if Bacon actually advance a Democratic short term
- 0:20Speaker 1: funding bill and a Republican House passed bill to keep
- 0:23Speaker 1: the lights on. Here's how Speaker Mike Johnson on that.
- 0:28Speaker 2: We sent over a continuing clean resolution. This is standard
- 0:31Speaker 2: practice around here. And all the Democrats who are voting
- 0:34Speaker 2: against it in the Senate right now, every single one
- 0:36Speaker 2: of them have given impassioned speeches about how you must
- 0:40Speaker 2: pass continued resolutions, you must pass crs, you should never
- 0:43Speaker 2: shut down the government because it's dangerous and destructive and
- 0:46Speaker 2: selfish and wrong. Well, suddenly they've changed their tune. We're playing.
- 0:51Speaker 2: I invite you all after the press conference to go
- 0:52Speaker 2: by the Speaker's office in the hallway there and you
- 0:54Speaker 2: can see the highlight reel of all of them sameness
- 0:57Speaker 2: Passionately as recently as March of this last next year,
- 1:00Speaker 2: when Chuck Schumer led his caucus to vote for the
- 1:03Speaker 2: same cr they did it thirteen times during the Biden
- 1:07Speaker 2: administration in the previous four years, but suddenly they won't
- 1:10Speaker 2: do it.
- 1:11Speaker 1: All right, Let's go live to the Capitol and CBS
- 1:14Speaker 1: News Congressional correspondent Nicole Killian. Nicole, any indication that we'll
- 1:18Speaker 1: actually see a breakthrough during this vote later today?
- 1:23Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think as you heard from the Speaker.
- 1:25Speaker 3: I mean, look, you know, at this point, Republican leaders
- 1:28Speaker 3: feel that the ball is in Democrats court in terms
- 1:31Speaker 3: of trying to support that bill that Speaker Johnson reference
- 1:35Speaker 3: that passed his chamber. That's just a clean extension of
- 1:38Speaker 3: government funding. But I asked both him and Leaderthoon about
- 1:42Speaker 3: their roles in this shutdown fight. Take a listen, do
- 1:47Speaker 3: you take any responsibility for what's happening? And what is
- 1:50Speaker 3: the justification for not holding votes in your chamber this
- 1:53Speaker 3: week and potentially yours this weekend? When there are some
- 1:56Speaker 3: five partisan conversations happening in the Senate. Why not just
- 2:00Speaker 3: stay here and work this out.
- 2:03Speaker 2: I'll give you my quick answer. You have the leader,
- 2:05Speaker 2: but my quick answer is very simple. The House did
- 2:07Speaker 2: its job. The House did sent a by partisan very simple,
- 2:11Speaker 2: very conventional twenty four pages continuous resolution to keep the
- 2:15Speaker 2: lights on, and it's been and we sent it over,
- 2:17Speaker 2: we passed it, and it's been rejected by the Senate.
- 2:19Speaker 4: We're going to shut down posture here because of Senate Democrats.
- 2:23Speaker 4: There is united support House Republicans, Senate Republicans, a few
- 2:29Speaker 4: Senate Democrats, the President of the United States in support
- 2:33Speaker 4: of keeping or opening the government back up. And right
- 2:37Speaker 4: now it's being blocked by the Senate Democrats. And all
- 2:40Speaker 4: it takes is you point out, is a handful more
- 2:42Speaker 4: we get four or five more votes and we can
- 2:44Speaker 4: actually pass this thing. And there are discussions going on
- 2:48Speaker 4: with our colleagues on both sides of the aisle, but
- 2:51Speaker 4: at some point they have to take yes for an answer.
- 2:53Speaker 4: I mean, the things that people want, and I don't
- 2:56Speaker 4: disagree with this at all. Is a normal appropriations process,
- 2:59Speaker 4: putting bills on the floor, getting conference passed bills on
- 3:03Speaker 4: the floor of the House and Senate, so we can
- 3:05Speaker 4: actually fund the government the old fashioned way. And I'm
- 3:08Speaker 4: all for that, and we've made that very clear to them.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Now. In terms of some of those bipartisan discussions, I
- 3:16Speaker 3: did talk to one Democratic senator who has been involved
- 3:20Speaker 3: in some of those talks that we saw earlier this
- 3:23Speaker 3: week on the Senate floor. The senator did not indicate
- 3:26Speaker 3: how they might vote later today with respect to these
- 3:31Speaker 3: procedural votes around government funding, but they were encouraged by
- 3:36Speaker 3: the direction that these talks are going, even though we
- 3:40Speaker 3: have yet to see any kind of firm agreement. Of course,
- 3:43Speaker 3: Democrats have been pressing for this extension of subsidies around
- 3:47Speaker 3: the Affordable Care Act, which are due to expire at
- 3:50Speaker 3: the end of the year. They want some guarantees around that,
- 3:53Speaker 3: as well as other issues related to healthcare, in order
- 3:56Speaker 3: to be able to support government funding going forward. So
- 4:00Speaker 3: you know, I am told that some of those discussions
- 4:02Speaker 3: are expected to continue throughout the weekend, even if senators
- 4:06Speaker 3: end up going home should this vote later today fail.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Okay, Nicole kellyon on Capitol Hill for us today, Thank you,
- 4:14Speaker 1: and now let's bring in CBS News Money Watch correspondent
- 4:17Speaker 1: Kelly O. Grady with the economic side of this shutdown,
- 4:19Speaker 1: because Kelly, we were supposed to get a new jobs
- 4:21Speaker 1: report this morning that is now delayed. What is the
- 4:24Speaker 1: economic concern if this shutdown continues.
- 4:29Speaker 5: So there's a couple of different things Mugo of how
- 4:31Speaker 5: I would think about this. Obviously, you have the very
- 4:34Speaker 5: obvious financial situation play of the federal worker that is
- 4:39Speaker 5: either laid off and gets that back pay eventually or
- 4:42Speaker 5: potentially is even fired. And when that person is having
- 4:46Speaker 5: to dip into their savings, they're having to maybe not
- 4:49Speaker 5: pay rent, miss a credit card payment, they're not out
- 4:52Speaker 5: spending that money that they traditionally would. And remember GDP
- 4:58Speaker 5: is two thirds consumer spending, so that's part of it.
- 5:02Speaker 5: Another part would be more of the consumer angle you
- 5:05Speaker 5: and me. Maybe someone has a federal backed mortgage and
- 5:09Speaker 5: they live in a particular area that's impacted by flooding
- 5:12Speaker 5: or by hurricanes. They are required by law for that
- 5:15Speaker 5: federal backed mortgage to get a application at the National
- 5:19Speaker 5: Flood Insurance Program. Right now, that is not happening right
- 5:24Speaker 5: because the government is shut down, and so you're delaying
- 5:27Speaker 5: some of these transactions, the spending that creates economic growth.
- 5:32Speaker 5: And then the final thing you mentioned the jobs report.
- 5:34Speaker 5: Normally I'm at the New York Stock Exchange talking to
- 5:36Speaker 5: you about the numbers, how investors are reacting. That's one
- 5:39Speaker 5: part of it. But when you don't have that data,
- 5:42Speaker 5: when you don't have potentially in a week and a
- 5:44Speaker 5: half the inflation data that the Bureau of Labor Statistics
- 5:48Speaker 5: is expected to release. When the Federal Reserve when they
- 5:51Speaker 5: meet at the end of this month, and they don't
- 5:53Speaker 5: have the traditional sources of information that they rely on,
- 5:56Speaker 5: they could be more cautious in terms of how they
- 6:00Speaker 5: approach interest rates. And we know from the last Federal
- 6:02Speaker 5: Reserve meeting there was a lot of division amongst folks
- 6:06Speaker 5: of how they should treat interest rates going forward. Do
- 6:09Speaker 5: you prioritize the labor market and the weakness that we've seen,
- 6:12Speaker 5: or do you prioritize the rising prices partly because of tariffs.
- 6:17Speaker 5: And so I bring that up as an economic concern
- 6:19Speaker 5: because it's not just about Okay, how the Federal Reserve
- 6:22Speaker 5: is going to decide. That cascades down to your mortgage rates,
- 6:25Speaker 5: your auto loans, your small business loans, and at the
- 6:28Speaker 5: heart of it, when small businesses, when consumers are able
- 6:31Speaker 5: to borrow money for cheaper, that often does lead to
- 6:35Speaker 5: more economic activity. And if you have a more cautious
- 6:37Speaker 5: Federal Reserve, maybe an interest rate cut that doesn't happen,
- 6:41Speaker 5: then you would see less economic activity potentially move up.
- 6:44Speaker 1: A lot to keep our eyes on. Kelley O. Grady,
- 6:46Speaker 1: thank you so much for that breakdown.