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- 0:03Speaker 1: That have been talking to the Raiders, trying to get
- 0:05Speaker 1: in there, trying to get the Raiders to engage in
- 0:07Speaker 1: the potential trade of Max Crosby. Seems like healthwise he
- 0:10Speaker 1: is doing incredibly well. Seems like price wise he is
- 0:13Speaker 1: drawing the interest that the Raiders have thought. We just
- 0:16Speaker 1: don't know for sure is whether or not the Raiders
- 0:19Speaker 1: are going to trade it. He is an excellent player.
- 0:21Speaker 1: He has been a key part of the organization, one
- 0:23Speaker 1: of the faces of the organization, and one of Mark
- 0:25Speaker 1: Davis's favorite Right, So, if you're the Raiders, your decision
- 0:28Speaker 1: is roy this. Do you do a full rebuild and
- 0:32Speaker 1: take the draft picks that would come with Crosby, which
- 0:34Speaker 1: would include a first round pick and more, or do
- 0:36Speaker 1: you say he's our best player and we're going to
- 0:38Speaker 1: rebuild with him. It is an unbelievably huge decision that
- 0:42Speaker 1: makes sense that they would take their time, but certainly,
- 0:45Speaker 1: I would say the fate of both of these players,
- 0:47Speaker 1: it's very much up in the air as we head
- 0:48Speaker 1: towards three.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Oh.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Astley's jos in her favorite National insighter. That's twice we've
- 0:56Speaker 3: heard from me in Rapaport this week. I'd really like
- 0:58Speaker 3: him NFL Network the latest on Max Crosby. Also AJ
- 1:04Speaker 3: Brown was included in that report as well. Good morning,
- 1:07Speaker 3: It is the seven o'clock hour here on a Friday.
- 1:10Speaker 3: Our headlines are brought to you by Frostbrewed cors Light Shoes. Chill,
- 1:15Speaker 3: let me tear right through them. We are three days
- 1:17Speaker 3: away from Tampa Fest. That's right. NFL free agency officially
- 1:22Speaker 3: starts next Wednesday, but we have the Monday Tuesday forty
- 1:25Speaker 3: eight hour period where almost all the action goes down.
- 1:28Speaker 3: We'll be ready to cover it for you come six
- 1:30Speaker 3: am Monday morning. As NFL free agency certainly dominating the headlines,
- 1:37Speaker 3: and either that or NFL trades. Seahawks continue to be
- 1:40Speaker 3: linked to Max Crosby, but so do a handful of
- 1:43Speaker 3: other teams in the National Football League, most notably probably
- 1:46Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears are being most actively linked to Crosby.
- 1:51Speaker 3: There have been blockbuster trades all week long in the
- 1:54Speaker 3: National Football League for significant trades, maybe not all of
- 1:57Speaker 3: them have reached the point of blockbuster at four significant trades,
- 2:01Speaker 3: and I'm kind of expecting to see another one here
- 2:03Speaker 3: today before our show comes to a close. Some other headlines.
- 2:07Speaker 3: NHL trade deadline is today at noon, we will find
- 2:11Speaker 3: out if the Kraken between now and then they got
- 2:13Speaker 3: five hours to pull off a trade, either minor a
- 2:16Speaker 3: significant one. Who knows Thus far nothing from Jason Bottrel
- 2:21Speaker 3: and the Seattle Kraken. The team will take on the
- 2:24Speaker 3: Ottawa Senators tonight at home at seven o'clock. The WBC
- 2:28Speaker 3: is underway early this morning. Japan smoked Chinese Taipei. But
- 2:33Speaker 3: for you waiting for the US to make their debut,
- 2:36Speaker 3: Cal Raley and the American team will face Brazil tonight
- 2:39Speaker 3: at five o'clock. Meanwhile, Julio and the Dominican Republic will
- 2:42Speaker 3: take on Nicaragua today at four thirty. Mariners lost in
- 2:46Speaker 3: Cactus League play. It's a good thing that we don't
- 2:49Speaker 3: take these games too seriously because they've now lost six
- 2:52Speaker 3: in a row and yesterday they lost twenty seven to
- 2:55Speaker 3: six to the San Diego Padres. You heard me right,
- 2:58Speaker 3: twenty seven to six was eighteen to two after three innings.
- 3:02Speaker 4: It's not great.
- 3:03Speaker 3: That's not that ideal. No, Jason Tatum's going to be activated,
- 3:07Speaker 3: believe it or not. Ten months rehab and recovery and
- 3:11Speaker 3: he is ready to go after his achilles injury in
- 3:14Speaker 3: last year's playoffs. He's going to play for the Celtics tonight,
- 3:17Speaker 3: who've been pretty damn good without him. College basketball UW
- 3:22Speaker 3: Oregon play tomorrow night to wrap up the regular season. Meanwhile,
- 3:25Speaker 3: the GEZA State Championships all week in Long Coobs are
- 3:29Speaker 3: in the WCC Tournament Tonight. They'll be in Vegas to
- 3:32Speaker 3: take on Portland and Seattle. You will be taking on
- 3:35Speaker 3: San Diego. Gonzaga doesn't play until Monday, in the way
- 3:39Speaker 3: that that tournament is structured. All right, So a lot
- 3:42Speaker 3: a lot going on with headlines, more on all of
- 3:44Speaker 3: that stuff with the Ocho at eight o'clock, But it's
- 3:46Speaker 3: time to talk to Greg Bell.
- 3:48Speaker 2: With the bell tolls.
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- 4:05Speaker 5: Now with punk Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
- 4:09Speaker 5: and Bug Morning.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Greg, Good morning.
- 4:12Speaker 3: All right, So I gotta ask you what is the
- 4:17Speaker 3: relationship that the local beat rider has with the national guys.
- 4:20Speaker 3: After this Florio schefter argument this week. I want to
- 4:23Speaker 3: hear it from your perspective.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Well, we're amused most times by national media mash reporters.
- 4:35Speaker 2: We don't know them. We've kind of as arms reach
- 4:37Speaker 2: we know of them and kind of bump into them
- 4:39Speaker 2: at league things around the league, but we were mostly abused.
- 4:45Speaker 2: I should say. They report things. They have been in
- 4:48Speaker 2: the Seahawk c locker room. Ninety nine percent of them
- 4:51Speaker 2: have been the Seahork c locker room in the last
- 4:52Speaker 2: twelve years. So they're being fed their information. They're aggregators,
- 4:57Speaker 2: I mean, because they aren't. They can't be in sir
- 5:00Speaker 2: two places at once, first person reporting things. Yeah, so
- 5:04Speaker 2: they're aggregators like a bunch of journalism today.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Did you say aggravators or aggregators.
- 5:10Speaker 2: No, Well, actually they don't aggravate me. They have a
- 5:12Speaker 2: completely different job than I do. They're aggregators that collect
- 5:16Speaker 2: all the information that we all put out and they
- 5:19Speaker 2: get to amplify it with bigger microphone, bigger megaphones than
- 5:23Speaker 2: we have on a bigger stage. But they're in every
- 5:27Speaker 2: one of those cities. There are people like the beat
- 5:30Speaker 2: writers of every team that are the first person on
- 5:33Speaker 2: boots on the ground guys that they call their information from,
- 5:36Speaker 2: and not to mention agents and leaks from the team.
- 5:39Speaker 2: But yeah, they're two different worlds. They have a different agenda.
- 5:44Speaker 2: And why do you have.
- 5:46Speaker 3: Oh, because of the Florio Schefter argument this week nationally.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I asked, Well, yeah, there's a lot
- 5:55Speaker 2: of water carrying that goes on from the national writers.
- 5:57Speaker 2: We're well aware of where things come from, and like this,
- 6:01Speaker 2: for instance the Rashid Shaheed. Yes, the fact that they
- 6:05Speaker 2: said that the report from Schefter was that the Seahawks
- 6:09Speaker 2: and the agent are far apart. Well, who's the agent?
- 6:12Speaker 2: The agent? It's a really good friend of Adam Schefter,
- 6:16Speaker 2: who Drew Rosenhaus, who everyone is well aware that he
- 6:21Speaker 2: has Schefter's of microphone megaphones, I should say Rosenhause. So
- 6:25Speaker 2: it's not hard to find where that information comes from.
- 6:28Speaker 2: For instance, all right, and does why does an agent
- 6:31Speaker 2: do that to drive up to the client's price. Why
- 6:33Speaker 2: does it do that because the higher the clients price,
- 6:35Speaker 2: the higher the payday for the agent. You know how
- 6:38Speaker 2: this works?
- 6:39Speaker 6: All right? All right?
- 6:40Speaker 3: I had to ask we were talking about it in
- 6:42Speaker 3: the last segment.
- 6:43Speaker 6: You know, behind your.
- 6:43Speaker 3: Back, Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks insider from
- 6:47Speaker 3: the News Tribune. All right, well, let's talk some Seahawks stuff.
- 6:50Speaker 3: Let's talk about Max Crosby. Are you hearing anything on
- 6:53Speaker 3: that front, because again the reports are that looks like
- 6:58Speaker 3: he's going to be traded. How invested is John Schneider
- 7:02Speaker 3: in this process?
- 7:04Speaker 2: I just don't think he has enough chips to play
- 7:07Speaker 2: this game. If you're going to talk about a trade,
- 7:11Speaker 2: the Seahawks don't have the capital that the Raiders would
- 7:14Speaker 2: be looking for to trade them now. If they're trading
- 7:18Speaker 2: and even considering trading an elite pass rusher before the draft,
- 7:25Speaker 2: they're looking for a return that will help them right now,
- 7:28Speaker 2: as in between now and April twenty third, when the
- 7:31Speaker 2: draft starts, which means draft capital this year, and the
- 7:34Speaker 2: Seahawks don't have it. They have four picks. The only
- 7:37Speaker 2: way I can see the Seahawks being in any derby
- 7:39Speaker 2: for any starter caliber, especially all Pro caliber player, is
- 7:43Speaker 2: to be having to give up starters. And they are
- 7:47Speaker 2: not in the market to give up starters when they
- 7:49Speaker 2: could be losing as many as half a dozen of
- 7:51Speaker 2: them to free agency. So it doesn't make a whole
- 7:55Speaker 2: lot of sense to me that they could pull off
- 7:57Speaker 2: a trade that would the Raiders would be attracted by
- 8:00Speaker 2: having only four picks, and three of them at the
- 8:03Speaker 2: bottom of each of the first three rounds, and then
- 8:06Speaker 2: girding for having to potentially lose the Super Bowl MVP,
- 8:10Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl kick returner, a Pro Bowl cornerback as
- 8:13Speaker 2: starting safety of starting outside linebacker. They don't seem to
- 8:19Speaker 2: me to be the team that would be logically in
- 8:20Speaker 2: the Derby to do that. A lot of reports you
- 8:23Speaker 2: get about trades and potential teams interested again come from
- 8:28Speaker 2: an agent's point of view, trying to drum up and
- 8:31Speaker 2: drive up the asking price the commodity and then eventually
- 8:37Speaker 2: sometimes not in Crosby's case, perhaps, but sometimes it's for
- 8:40Speaker 2: a sign and trade where the guy getting traded will
- 8:42Speaker 2: get a new contract. Again, the agent is in the
- 8:45Speaker 2: business of getting the max value for his client as
- 8:47Speaker 2: he can give. So there's a lot of information put
- 8:53Speaker 2: this way this time of year especially, But there's a
- 8:55Speaker 2: lot of information because there are a lot of information
- 8:57Speaker 2: avenues today and not all of them are and some
- 9:01Speaker 2: of them you have to look at the frame of well,
- 9:03Speaker 2: where are they coming from. With the Seahawks in this angle,
- 9:07Speaker 2: it would appear to me the Seahawks would be much
- 9:09Speaker 2: more in the market for landing a top flight free
- 9:12Speaker 2: agent than they would buy a trade getting an a player.
- 9:15Speaker 2: But I don't think they're gonna be EI the one.
- 9:17Speaker 6: Okay, well that's where I was gonna go.
- 9:18Speaker 7: So the idea of not having the chips to play
- 9:21Speaker 7: in the Max Crosby does that exclude them then from
- 9:27Speaker 7: or is it just out of character to go after
- 9:29Speaker 7: maybe a Trey Henderson where you don't have to give
- 9:30Speaker 7: anything up except for a lot of money.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a counter to what Snyder has
- 9:35Speaker 2: done in sixteen previous offseasons. We've talked about one of
- 9:40Speaker 2: the only times I can think about in sixteen years
- 9:42Speaker 2: that Snyder has gone first splash, first day, top of
- 9:46Speaker 2: the market free agent was Draymond Jones for fifty one
- 9:49Speaker 2: million dollars in free agency a few years ago, and
- 9:51Speaker 2: that did not work out at all. They didn't get
- 9:54Speaker 2: They paid fifty fifty one million dollars and they Bay
- 9:57Speaker 2: got fifty one dollars of production out of him before
- 10:00Speaker 2: he was gone. And now he's a free agent yet again,
- 10:03Speaker 2: he's going to be on his third or fourth team
- 10:05Speaker 2: and on the last three years. So Schnyder he is
- 10:10Speaker 2: very in tune to both his successes and when he
- 10:14Speaker 2: has failed, and when he has failed, he's deviated from
- 10:17Speaker 2: his own discipline of plan they budget this two or
- 10:21Speaker 2: three years. He was on his radio show yesterday talking
- 10:24Speaker 2: about this, and we've talked about this often. He goes
- 10:27Speaker 2: two or three years out to what his the finance is,
- 10:30Speaker 2: what his budget of the roster is going to look like,
- 10:32Speaker 2: not just for fifty three but for seventy guys, and
- 10:36Speaker 2: he prides himself and he and his staff having so
- 10:38Speaker 2: many connections around the league about how accurate those projections are,
- 10:43Speaker 2: be it free agency, being salary cap and cuts, or
- 10:46Speaker 2: who other teams are going to draft. And over sixteen years,
- 10:49Speaker 2: the stafs have been very good, i mean top of
- 10:52Speaker 2: the league good at projecting what other teams are going
- 10:55Speaker 2: to do because of the relationships that they've built and
- 10:57Speaker 2: the fact that Snyder has worked Green Bay Packers in
- 11:00Speaker 2: Washington and Kansas City and he's got a ton of
- 11:02Speaker 2: connections himself personally, and he's hired guys the same way.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Stall That's to say, once they have a plan and
- 11:10Speaker 2: they build all this networking and come up with what
- 11:13Speaker 2: they think the other teams are going to do, they
- 11:15Speaker 2: stick to it, and the times they have failed, including
- 11:19Speaker 2: building rosters that didn't make playoffs two out of last
- 11:21Speaker 2: three years before this one, they failed by deviating from
- 11:24Speaker 2: that plan, both monetarily in their budget and in drafting.
- 11:28Speaker 2: So he's going to be sticking to it coming off
- 11:31Speaker 2: the Super Bowl because what he just did in last
- 11:33Speaker 2: year worked better than anybody else in the league. If
- 11:35Speaker 2: there's ever a time John Schneider would appear to not
- 11:38Speaker 2: deviate from his plan and stay disciplined to it, it'd
- 11:40Speaker 2: be this one coming off of the Super Bowl season.
- 11:43Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 11:43Speaker 3: Greg bellis with us our Seahawks insider, and of course
- 11:46Speaker 3: you can followim at g bel Seattle on x and
- 11:48Speaker 3: Thenewstribune dot com is where his coverage of the Seahawks.
- 11:52Speaker 3: All of it is there for you and available twenty
- 11:55Speaker 3: four to seven. All right, let's talk about Drake Thomas.
- 11:58Speaker 3: He got rewarded yesterday for his surprisingly effective season. That's
- 12:03Speaker 3: how I'd put it, because it surprised me and so
- 12:07Speaker 3: I feel good. Story there somebody that I'm not sure
- 12:10Speaker 3: a lot of people gave a chance to to carve
- 12:12Speaker 3: out an NFL career and here he is a multi millionaire.
- 12:15Speaker 6: This morning, your.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Thoughts, Yeah, this time last year he was a special
- 12:19Speaker 2: teams player. He had played seventy percent of the special
- 12:21Speaker 2: team snaps. He's a former undrafted gout in North Carolina
- 12:26Speaker 2: State that was a practice squad player for the Las
- 12:28Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders, who waived him in twenty twenty three, and
- 12:32Speaker 2: the Seahawks picked him up. Snyder got him off waivers.
- 12:35Speaker 2: His pro personnel guys identified him as a core special
- 12:39Speaker 2: team potential, course special teams player. And when McDonald got here,
- 12:44Speaker 2: he's like, who is this guy who does everything right
- 12:47Speaker 2: in meetings and in practices. This guy's pretty damn good
- 12:53Speaker 2: at doing everything we're asking him to do with a
- 12:54Speaker 2: new defense. And he absorbed it and performed it perfectly.
- 12:59Speaker 2: And this time last year he was still behind Tyree Knight,
- 13:03Speaker 2: who was the starter as a rookie at we set
- 13:07Speaker 2: inside linebacker next to Ernest Jones. And by training camp,
- 13:10Speaker 2: McDonald said, Uh, Drake Thomas is doing everything we've asked
- 13:14Speaker 2: him to do and more. He's a shore tackler. He
- 13:17Speaker 2: needs to be in more than special teams. He's our
- 13:19Speaker 2: new starting inside weekside linebacker. That was the same time
- 13:22Speaker 2: Tyree Knight we got injured during training camp and Drake
- 13:25Speaker 2: Thomas seized the role. It was the full time start
- 13:28Speaker 2: of the entire season. He was a restricted free agent,
- 13:31Speaker 2: meaning that the Seahawks had the rights to him, but
- 13:33Speaker 2: if they didn't want to get him a contract or
- 13:36Speaker 2: even tender him an offer, then he could have become
- 13:39Speaker 2: an unrestricted free agent on Monday. But instead of tenoring
- 13:43Speaker 2: him an offer for just this year, they give him
- 13:45Speaker 2: a whole new deal for two years. His agent confirmed
- 13:48Speaker 2: to me yesterday that it was at one point five
- 13:51Speaker 2: million dollars signing bonus, two years, eight million dollars and
- 13:53Speaker 2: up to nine million dollars total counting some potential bonuses.
- 13:57Speaker 2: And that's a pretty good deal for a guy who
- 13:59Speaker 2: was a fringe player waved by the Raiders a couple
- 14:02Speaker 2: of years ago.
- 14:03Speaker 7: Geze with the tampering period right around the corner and
- 14:07Speaker 7: basically free agent kind of underway to some degree, I mean,
- 14:10Speaker 7: what do you see happening?
- 14:11Speaker 6: First?
- 14:11Speaker 7: Are they going to get the JSN and Witherspoon extension
- 14:17Speaker 7: deals done to where they know how much money they
- 14:19Speaker 7: have left, or do they go with the free agents
- 14:21Speaker 7: so then they can work those cap numbers and signing
- 14:24Speaker 7: bonus numbers to fit that in.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Now they'll do the latter. They have never done a
- 14:31Speaker 2: foundational guy. Now they do the foundational guy who's still
- 14:34Speaker 2: under contract for a year ago in his deal at
- 14:36Speaker 2: around training camp right around July early August. That's when
- 14:41Speaker 2: those deals will get done. But Schnyder doesn't just spend, spend, spend,
- 14:46Speaker 2: and then figure out how much money's left for the
- 14:48Speaker 2: guys he wants to keep on extensions and foundation guys.
- 14:51Speaker 2: He sets this back to the discipline thing. He sets
- 14:55Speaker 2: the number at here's what we're paying Smith and Jigbook,
- 14:58Speaker 2: here's what we're paying. And in this case we could
- 15:01Speaker 2: be talking forty million dollars a year for Jazz I
- 15:03Speaker 2: think the offensive player of the year at a wide
- 15:05Speaker 2: receiver position or the Diva's mad all the money and cornerback.
- 15:09Speaker 2: We know how value that is in the league. Weisman
- 15:11Speaker 2: could make thirty million a year. So you're talking seventy
- 15:15Speaker 2: million dollars to two guys. So that and that wouldn't
- 15:19Speaker 2: all of course be due this year or even next year.
- 15:22Speaker 2: We have spread across with bank their contracts. But the
- 15:24Speaker 2: point is he sets those numbers. He already knows what
- 15:27Speaker 2: those numbers are, and then he works backwards for the
- 15:30Speaker 2: rest of free agency. He also said something interesting yesterday
- 15:35Speaker 2: on the show We know this, but we forget about
- 15:36Speaker 2: it this time of year. On his radio show yesterday,
- 15:39Speaker 2: he said, hey, we got a butt. The way we
- 15:41Speaker 2: operate is we say we keep a slush fund. He
- 15:44Speaker 2: didn't use the term, but we keep a slush fund
- 15:46Speaker 2: for during the season so we can go make the
- 15:48Speaker 2: mid season trades we make. Those trades aren't free. When
- 15:52Speaker 2: you you gain a player, you're taking on the contract
- 15:56Speaker 2: from that another team signed into. That wasn't part of
- 15:58Speaker 2: the budgeting plan for the Sea. Schneider hasn't had a
- 16:01Speaker 2: number for Rashid Shaheed on the twenty five salary cap.
- 16:05Speaker 2: When you import, you get a trade, you import that
- 16:08Speaker 2: salary cap number for the rest of this season and
- 16:10Speaker 2: if his years I've left on the contract for next
- 16:13Speaker 2: year and a year after, you have to budget and
- 16:15Speaker 2: plan for that. He can't go get Leonard Williams, for instance,
- 16:19Speaker 2: of multiple time Pro Bowl in New York years. He
- 16:22Speaker 2: can't add him in October if he has no cap space,
- 16:25Speaker 2: so he saves money and doesn't spend in March so
- 16:29Speaker 2: he can spend in October early November to pick up
- 16:32Speaker 2: an impact player, which he's done almost every year in
- 16:35Speaker 2: the last half dozen to get his team over the top.
- 16:38Speaker 2: He waits and sees what his team, where his team
- 16:42Speaker 2: is midway through the season, right before the trade deadline,
- 16:46Speaker 2: and if they are in contention, he goes and pushes.
- 16:49Speaker 2: If they're not as much in a contention, he might
- 16:52Speaker 2: operate differently, not trade at all, or might even trade
- 16:55Speaker 2: some guys and to the non playoff years. Sometimes he's
- 16:58Speaker 2: done that, but if he's in it, he goes. And
- 17:03Speaker 2: this season the Shiheed deal got him a Super Bowl.
- 17:05Speaker 2: We talked about how kick off return against the Rams
- 17:08Speaker 2: change the end of season for them. So the money
- 17:12Speaker 2: that he's not spending now that some fans might be
- 17:14Speaker 2: going crazy about is actually airmarked for November for the
- 17:19Speaker 2: trade deadline when they can go get somebody on an
- 17:22Speaker 2: expiring contract if it's a rental or two years left
- 17:25Speaker 2: to add that cap station. So there is so much
- 17:28Speaker 2: that goes into this. They don't just wake up in
- 17:30Speaker 2: the morning, flip on ESPN and see some guy's about
- 17:33Speaker 2: to go for fourteen million dollars and decide they want
- 17:35Speaker 2: to offer him fifteen million. That's not at all how
- 17:37Speaker 2: they operate. They do it. They are strictly adhering to
- 17:41Speaker 2: these plannings that goes way into the season that none
- 17:44Speaker 2: of us can see.
- 17:45Speaker 3: Right now, Well, get some rest. The frenzy is on
- 17:49Speaker 3: on Monday, and I need you at your best.
- 17:51Speaker 2: It's already odd Snider body that poor yesterday too, he said,
- 17:54Speaker 2: I don't know what everyone's making a big deal about.
- 17:56Speaker 2: Shihed the new Shaheed's going to test the market and
- 17:59Speaker 2: his agents in the market for more than a week,
- 18:01Speaker 2: which I thought was a great line to tell you
- 18:03Speaker 2: that the league legal tampering career begins at the combine,
- 18:06Speaker 2: because that's when the agent's talking to other teams where
- 18:08Speaker 2: they're they're allowed to or not.
- 18:10Speaker 6: Oh thank you.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Disrespecting the rules, just respecting tamper fest. I mean, that's
- 18:18Speaker 3: a line I just can't cross.
- 18:20Speaker 2: Come on now, Yeah, well that's the reality of it.
- 18:22Speaker 2: It's happened, it started happening. Yes, enjoyed the week. Got
- 18:27Speaker 2: be it just covid of tonight, Mike Bett and I
- 18:28Speaker 2: have the back back three A semi boys basketball Semifinals
- 18:32Speaker 2: State Finals from the Tacoma Dome. I got Lincoln in
- 18:35Speaker 2: East Side Catholic at five point thirty today to night.
- 18:37Speaker 3: We have fun, enjoy all right, we'll be listening, all right,
- 18:40Speaker 3: Greg now uh our Seahawks Insider A segment with us
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- 19:23Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, allorry, don't you
- 19:37Speaker 3: come in your way at eight o'clock today your eight
- 19:39Speaker 3: top story of the day. Hugh millen To talks free agency,
- 19:42Speaker 3: not necessarily who the Seahawks. Oh man, this is disgusting.
- 19:46Speaker 3: I got to get this offer here that is awful.
- 19:49Speaker 6: What are you looking at again, I'm not looking at anything.
- 19:51Speaker 3: It's stop in Twitter, like puts things up there that
- 19:54Speaker 3: I don't ever ever seek, and then I then it
- 19:57Speaker 3: sticks there and I got to watch somebody have in
- 19:59Speaker 3: their face into I don't thank you.
- 20:01Speaker 8: You should be at two in the corner say like
- 20:03Speaker 8: I don't want to see stuff like this, and then
- 20:05Speaker 8: it'll recognize that you don't like I don't.
- 20:07Speaker 3: Know, disgusting And I wouldn't have said anything, but it
- 20:13Speaker 3: was actually disgusting.
- 20:14Speaker 6: And I had to get it off there and I
- 20:15Speaker 6: couldn't fast enough.
- 20:17Speaker 3: So Hugh Milling at nine o'clock today, x'es and o's
- 20:20Speaker 3: we'll talk about free agency. Mike Minton will also talk
- 20:23Speaker 3: with us about the Kraken at the trading deadline. Still
- 20:26Speaker 3: have not done anything. We'll chat with him at nine
- 20:28Speaker 3: point thirty. But I do what talks in baseball today.
- 20:31Speaker 3: We had Perry Hill on two days ago to talk
- 20:33Speaker 3: about infield, and we talked to him a lot about
- 20:35Speaker 3: JP Crawford, and then we had a conversation yesterday about
- 20:38Speaker 3: JP Crawford's defense, and then Anders and I we did
- 20:43Speaker 3: a stove podcast yesterday, and we talked a lot about
- 20:46Speaker 3: JP Crawford, and one of the things that we haven't
- 20:49Speaker 3: talked about on our show is how this could end
- 20:52Speaker 3: up being. It sets up to be a pretty good
- 20:55Speaker 3: season offensively for JP Crawford. I mean, if he's going
- 20:57Speaker 3: to have a great season.
- 20:59Speaker 6: This is it.
- 21:00Speaker 3: And I'll explain that in a moment, because I think
- 21:02Speaker 3: he really needs to. With cold Emerson kind of hot
- 21:05Speaker 3: on his heels, you're in a championship window, not entering
- 21:08Speaker 3: one smack dab in the middle of one, JP I
- 21:11Speaker 3: think has to make those routine plays. As we discussed yesterday.
- 21:15Speaker 3: If we're going to go ahead and allow him a
- 21:18Speaker 3: little bit of leeway for not taking away runs, he
- 21:22Speaker 3: certainly has to be excellent at not giving runs right
- 21:26Speaker 3: and so that part of it he's going to need
- 21:29Speaker 3: to come through on, which I think he has a
- 21:31Speaker 3: really good chance of doing. And then he also is
- 21:34Speaker 3: going to need to hit because cold Emerson's coming, and
- 21:39Speaker 3: cold Emerson's if he proves I'm one of the best
- 21:42Speaker 3: nine guys in this organization right now, by the time
- 21:46Speaker 3: we get to the playoffs or close to the playoffs,
- 21:48Speaker 3: you know, they might have to find a spot for
- 21:50Speaker 3: him in the lineup. So I think JP Crawford's solid
- 21:55Speaker 3: as our shortstop. I think they want him to be
- 21:57Speaker 3: the starting shortstop for the World Series Game number seven.
- 22:01Speaker 3: I think that's what they prefer to have happen, but
- 22:06Speaker 3: I don't think it's ironclad that that is going to
- 22:09Speaker 3: be the case. Now let's get to the offense. I mean,
- 22:12Speaker 3: we've got the ABS challenge system being introduced this year.
- 22:16Speaker 3: I think JP Crawford not only has the best eye
- 22:19Speaker 3: on the team, he might have the best.
- 22:21Speaker 6: Eye in the game.
- 22:22Speaker 3: Like when he's at the plate man, he's usually right
- 22:26Speaker 3: and the umpire's usually wrong when they disagree. I can't
- 22:29Speaker 3: even remember how many times he ran down to first
- 22:32Speaker 3: last year thinking he had ball four. They replayed it
- 22:36Speaker 3: and he did have ball four, but the umpire called
- 22:39Speaker 3: it a strike. JP's got a really good feel for
- 22:42Speaker 3: the strike zone, and I would think with this new
- 22:48Speaker 3: challenge system in place, that JP won't have to live
- 22:52Speaker 3: with those frustrations. He can challenge, and I think that
- 22:55Speaker 3: clears him up. Number One, it should give him an
- 22:59Speaker 3: advantage because his eye is so good. Number Two, he
- 23:02Speaker 3: can stop being so angry every time the umpire gets
- 23:05Speaker 3: it wrong because we now have a system in place
- 23:08Speaker 3: to settle these disputes, and maybe JP will benefit from
- 23:13Speaker 3: this ABS challenge system more so than.
- 23:15Speaker 7: Anybody this year. Offensively, I could see how that would work.
- 23:18Speaker 7: I mean, you're right, he does have a great eye.
- 23:20Speaker 7: He does have a tendency to recognize when, like you said,
- 23:26Speaker 7: like that that's a ball and he's taken off down
- 23:28Speaker 7: to first base or even if it's in the middle
- 23:31Speaker 7: of the bat when it gets called to strike, he
- 23:33Speaker 7: will show that it's what that wasn't a strike, And
- 23:37Speaker 7: then then he has a tendency to let it linger
- 23:39Speaker 7: when he gets screwed over.
- 23:40Speaker 6: And I get it.
- 23:41Speaker 7: It's one of probably my biggest frustration in the entire
- 23:45Speaker 7: game that I love is an umpire screwing you over
- 23:48Speaker 7: in the middle of a at bat, because it does
- 23:50Speaker 7: change things, just one one, you know, changed call in
- 23:54Speaker 7: the middle of an AB changes what the pitcher's capable
- 23:57Speaker 7: of doing, what your your mindset is, how you approach
- 24:01Speaker 7: the rest of the AB. And so he doesn't handle
- 24:04Speaker 7: that very well. And so yeah, hopefully this is one
- 24:07Speaker 7: where he gets to win. When I first saw this,
- 24:11Speaker 7: it was down in Takoma and we were calling some
- 24:13Speaker 7: games down there, and it was like, boy, there's a
- 24:16Speaker 7: part of this that is like a double whammy. Right,
- 24:19Speaker 7: they bring up for strike three and you're like, Nope,
- 24:22Speaker 7: that wasn't strike three. So then everybody pauses for a second.
- 24:25Speaker 7: They run the ABS system and it's like, no, it
- 24:27Speaker 7: was strike three. It's almost like you get it twice right,
- 24:30Speaker 7: you get wrung up, and then you challenge it and
- 24:32Speaker 7: they're like, yep, you're right.
- 24:33Speaker 6: Go sit down.
- 24:34Speaker 7: Like I said, Yeah, that's not going to go well
- 24:36Speaker 7: for anybody, because that's an embarrassing that's more embarrassing than
- 24:40Speaker 7: just taking strike three to begin with. You took it,
- 24:42Speaker 7: you arguet it, and then you get proven wrong. And
- 24:45Speaker 7: yet I don't see that happening with him olech of
- 24:48Speaker 7: a lot. I do see the other happening far more often,
- 24:51Speaker 7: where's he gets kind of screwed on a call and
- 24:53Speaker 7: he asks for correction and it is corrected.
- 24:55Speaker 6: Hopefully that does help.
- 24:56Speaker 7: I could see that most certainly being a feather in
- 24:59Speaker 7: the cap of him a better offensive year.
- 25:01Speaker 3: And at the and the bottom line for him is
- 25:04Speaker 3: he just needs to stay within himself. And you and
- 25:08Speaker 3: I both like JP when he's hitting to all fields,
- 25:10Speaker 3: and he's fighting off pitches the other way. We don't
- 25:13Speaker 3: like the JP that spins himself in the ground with
- 25:16Speaker 3: his pipe cleaner arms trying to hit home runs in
- 25:19Speaker 3: the upper deck. That's not the JP that we like.
- 25:22Speaker 3: And if he is in a situation where he's actually
- 25:26Speaker 3: going to benefit from his great eye, does that not
- 25:30Speaker 3: maybe suggest that we're going to see a better version
- 25:34Speaker 3: of him this year, the best version. If we're taking
- 25:37Speaker 3: away from the umpires the power that he might have
- 25:41Speaker 3: a better eye than most umpires, and we're going to
- 25:44Speaker 3: take that power away from him and give it to JP,
- 25:47Speaker 3: then it sort of it suggests to me that we
- 25:51Speaker 3: should get the JP that ends up flourishing, feels comfortable
- 25:56Speaker 3: in his skin, and is you know, putting together those
- 26:00Speaker 3: quality at bats more consistently, versus the one that gets
- 26:04Speaker 3: frustrated and tries to make up for it by hitting
- 26:06Speaker 3: home runs. But I don't know. I don't know how
- 26:09Speaker 3: players tick. Maybe he'll be up two oh more frequently
- 26:13Speaker 3: and he'll be swinging for the downs more. I don't know,
- 26:15Speaker 3: but I would think that if JP's going to fend
- 26:19Speaker 3: off cold Emerson, that the ABS challenge system should benefit
- 26:24Speaker 3: guys who one of their best qualities is their eye.
- 26:28Speaker 6: For the zone.
- 26:29Speaker 3: I would think. I mean, that just makes sense to me.
- 26:31Speaker 3: Two plus two equals four. Yeah, well, that's good addition.
- 26:35Speaker 3: I mean it is not just the two plus two
- 26:37Speaker 3: equals four edition. But yeah, no, you're putting a couple
- 26:39Speaker 3: of things together and then deducing that this could come
- 26:43Speaker 3: out to being highly beneficial for this one individual player.
- 26:46Speaker 3: And I'm with you hundred percent that I think that
- 26:49Speaker 3: what you're the picture you're painting is exactly what is
- 26:52Speaker 3: going to be benefit. It might be the most beneficial too.
- 26:55Speaker 3: It's going to be the most beneficial to those that
- 26:58Speaker 3: have a good eye.
- 26:59Speaker 7: You have a good eye is one thing. Now if
- 27:01Speaker 7: you also don't swing at pitches on the fringe of
- 27:05Speaker 7: the zone, which he is up there in the tops
- 27:07Speaker 7: of the league. As far as chase percentage, he doesn't
- 27:10Speaker 7: chase pitches, which is it's as much as people are
- 27:12Speaker 7: frustrated with JP, and I'm one of them that gets frustrated,
- 27:15Speaker 7: especially when he's trying to go yard like he's you know,
- 27:17Speaker 7: Hank Aaron. It gets irritating to me. But there's one
- 27:21Speaker 7: thing that he does that a professional hitter does, and
- 27:23Speaker 7: it's you try to hit pitches. You swing at pitches
- 27:26Speaker 7: that you can do damage on if you have a
- 27:29Speaker 7: tendency of swing at pitches, even if they're strikes, but
- 27:31Speaker 7: they're pitchers pitches. You're not going to be very good
- 27:34Speaker 7: to hit a ninety mile an hour slider that's knee
- 27:36Speaker 7: high painted on the outer black and think you're gonna
- 27:39Speaker 7: do anything with it wrong. You have to take a
- 27:41Speaker 7: perfect swing to just hit a little blooper to right
- 27:43Speaker 7: field for me right You're not going to do any
- 27:46Speaker 7: damage on that pitch. And so understanding what pitches, what
- 27:49Speaker 7: strikes you actually take hacks at is something that he's
- 27:52Speaker 7: really good at. So he doesn't swing it a whole
- 27:55Speaker 7: bunch of pitches on the fringe of the zone, which
- 27:57Speaker 7: there's times that he takes strike three and he shouldn't.
- 27:59Speaker 7: But he also last year was his best year as
- 28:02Speaker 7: far as squaring balls up. I mean, just so he's
- 28:05Speaker 7: getting better at that. While he's getting slower and older,
- 28:09Speaker 7: he's getting more refined as a hitter. And understanding when
- 28:13Speaker 7: I need to open the floodgates and try to go yard.
- 28:15Speaker 7: I'm not wanting him to never try to go yard.
- 28:18Speaker 7: I just don't want you to do it all the time.
- 28:19Speaker 7: I don't want to see your helmet falling off every
- 28:21Speaker 7: single bat that whenever you get ahead in the count, No,
- 28:24Speaker 7: just square one up. And every once in a while
- 28:27Speaker 7: when the you know you're down by one and there's
- 28:29Speaker 7: two guys on it, it's the bottom of seventeen. Yeah,
- 28:32Speaker 7: you get two zero open, put one of the seats.
- 28:34Speaker 7: Put us up by one. I'm okay with that. He
- 28:36Speaker 7: seems to be heading in the right direction. And I
- 28:38Speaker 7: think that this the ABS system is most certainly going
- 28:41Speaker 7: to be something he's excited about, and if he uses
- 28:44Speaker 7: it to his advantage, there's going to be multiple times
- 28:46Speaker 7: you're going to get see that little JP jog down
- 28:48Speaker 7: to first base, you know, taking off his his shin
- 28:50Speaker 7: guarden whatever else, because he had a good ab and
- 28:53Speaker 7: the umpire didn't take him out of it.
- 28:55Speaker 3: Well, and I'm I'm the count, I'm on team cal.
- 28:59Speaker 3: I do believe that by the end of the season,
- 29:01Speaker 3: the evolution of this thing in its first year, I
- 29:04Speaker 3: think there will be an element of reserving it for
- 29:07Speaker 3: situations first and foremost, and then secondarily we might there
- 29:12Speaker 3: might be then the second thing, the second iteration of
- 29:15Speaker 3: it is not only do we want it. Situationally, we
- 29:18Speaker 3: want our best hitters to be able. We want to
- 29:21Speaker 3: reserve those for our best hitters situationally. But if you're
- 29:25Speaker 3: jp and you just have a great percentage, I think
- 29:28Speaker 3: you will always be given the benefit of the doubt.
- 29:31Speaker 3: I think that the organization knows how good his eye is.
- 29:33Speaker 3: So if you just keep tapping your head and you
- 29:36Speaker 3: keep getting it right, they don't take them away from you.
- 29:38Speaker 3: So you know, as long as as long as you're
- 29:41Speaker 3: as good as I think you're going to be at this,
- 29:44Speaker 3: then it should set you up for potentially your best season.
- 29:48Speaker 3: Yet you certainly won't have the umpires to blame this year. Yeah,
- 29:51Speaker 3: because he gets angry with the umpires a lot.
- 29:53Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 29:53Speaker 7: Yeah, it takes them out of it bats, Yeah, a
- 29:55Speaker 7: lot of times. It's understandable how it does. But you've
- 29:57Speaker 7: got to get better at that, and that's something that
- 29:58Speaker 7: I haven't seen him get better. So this is where
- 30:00Speaker 7: you get to You get to get yourself out of
- 30:02Speaker 7: jail for free if they put you wrongfully in jail,
- 30:05Speaker 7: as far as your your count goes, you get to
- 30:08Speaker 7: fix yourself.
- 30:09Speaker 6: I'm with you on that.
- 30:10Speaker 7: I think he's going to be I think most these
- 30:12Speaker 7: guys are going to have free ring to do it
- 30:14Speaker 7: until they just absolutely abuse it, you know. I mean,
- 30:16Speaker 7: I don't even know if it's going to be, Hey,
- 30:18Speaker 7: we don't want to do it early in the game
- 30:19Speaker 7: because a bat with guys at second and third and
- 30:23Speaker 7: you get screwed on a two to one pitch, that
- 30:26Speaker 7: could be the difference in the game. So I don't
- 30:27Speaker 7: think whether it's in the third inning or the seventh inning,
- 30:30Speaker 7: I don't think they're going to change a whole bunch
- 30:31Speaker 7: of that. But most certainly Randy rose Ring is tapping
- 30:34Speaker 7: his home and getting ten in a row wrong, They're like, hey, dude,
- 30:37Speaker 7: don't do it anymore. Yeah, you're done, You're done. Yeah,
- 30:40Speaker 7: your privileges have been revoked.
- 30:42Speaker 3: All right, coming up next. Okay, we're now closing in
- 30:46Speaker 3: on four hours from the NHL trade deadline and still
- 30:50Speaker 3: nothing from the local hockey club. What the f Sports
- 30:54Speaker 3: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, All right, almost eight o'clock,
- 31:10Speaker 3: need four hours to go to the NHL trading deadline?
- 31:13Speaker 3: Do you think do you think they know? I think
- 31:16Speaker 3: they're cracking. No, Oh, should we call there's a deadline?
- 31:19Speaker 8: I can call them and ask Yeah, just say hey,
- 31:22Speaker 8: I don't know if you guys know this, but.
- 31:23Speaker 3: I mean we are partners with them. Yeah. Maybe maybe
- 31:26Speaker 3: they were waiting on us to tell.
- 31:28Speaker 4: Them that that would be a good partner of us.
- 31:31Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just drop them a little note, you know,
- 31:34Speaker 3: just a little here you go.
- 31:36Speaker 8: We can send them some donuts with a little note
- 31:38Speaker 8: that said, hey, just just why we've got a thing
- 31:44Speaker 8: happened in at noon.
- 31:44Speaker 6: Yeah, post it note.
- 31:45Speaker 3: Post it note like on Botrel's car, you know, right
- 31:49Speaker 3: on it, do you dare?
- 31:50Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
- 31:52Speaker 3: By the way, we do have an update on somebody
- 31:54Speaker 3: did respond to you, I dared And then they say, well,
- 31:59Speaker 3: something about like will oh well, we'll just have to
- 32:01Speaker 3: wait and see.
- 32:02Speaker 6: Oh so they did something to it.
- 32:04Speaker 3: So no, I don't think so. I think maybe it's
- 32:07Speaker 3: just like a natural laxative, like coconut milk.
- 32:10Speaker 6: Oh yeah, maybe that natural.
- 32:13Speaker 3: That's now what I'm thinking that maybe it is just like, uh,
- 32:17Speaker 3: maybe it gave them the you know, gave them the
- 32:21Speaker 3: have you that's right, And so they just brought them
- 32:25Speaker 3: in and said you can have these, but I warn you,
- 32:28Speaker 3: you dare.
- 32:28Speaker 7: That would be the worst possible thing out of all
- 32:32Speaker 7: of the things like if it was, I dare you
- 32:34Speaker 7: to try to take my pringles like a possessive way.
- 32:38Speaker 7: That's in kind of a jerk move to put in
- 32:40Speaker 7: a common area. If it was, even if they licked
- 32:43Speaker 7: them and then they were like, this is gross. We'll
- 32:46Speaker 7: see if somebody wants to steal food, then you can
- 32:48Speaker 7: have a little saliva pringle.
- 32:50Speaker 6: That's bad.
- 32:51Speaker 7: But if it was literally it gives you the whoopsie
- 32:54Speaker 7: poopsies and you're like, here, dare you and you don't
- 32:57Speaker 7: say it. That's just that there's fighting weight them if.
- 33:03Speaker 4: You, Yeah, you can't woopsie poopsy somebody.
- 33:07Speaker 8: Just in the office nonchalantly and then hide behind him
- 33:11Speaker 8: some secretive can of pringles.
- 33:13Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 33:13Speaker 3: I mean, we don't really have an HR director around here,
- 33:16Speaker 3: but I'm pretty sure we have a human resources department.
- 33:19Speaker 6: This is a pretty big company.
- 33:20Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, and I'm going I'm gonna send a we.
- 33:23Speaker 6: Got oopsie poopsied?
- 33:25Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're fighting mad about it.
- 33:29Speaker 4: That is fair.
- 33:30Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 33:30Speaker 3: So I don't know, I mean we're reading into all
- 33:33Speaker 3: of it. What was the objective to begin with? Why
- 33:35Speaker 3: did you bring in the pringles? Why is it an
- 33:37Speaker 3: odd flavor? What were you daring us to do, not
- 33:40Speaker 3: to take one, daring us to take one, and now
- 33:44Speaker 3: it kind of feels like I kind of dared you.
- 33:47Speaker 3: I kind of challenged your curiosity. Yeah, and now I
- 33:52Speaker 3: hope you pay for it.
- 33:53Speaker 2: Well.
- 33:53Speaker 8: And here's the problem is that Bucky didn't actually eat one,
- 33:56Speaker 8: so you might never know.
- 33:57Speaker 3: I know, could you go have a few then see
- 34:00Speaker 3: if you oopsie poopsy before?
- 34:03Speaker 6: No? No, now that I know it.
- 34:05Speaker 3: Could be our ninth story of the OCHO would be great.
- 34:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:08Speaker 6: Oh, I won't be here for it if the poopsy's happened.
- 34:11Speaker 3: Missed that in the men's room.
- 34:13Speaker 7: I don't want that. I don't I don't want the
- 34:15Speaker 7: oopsy poopsies. I don't at all. And I'm a little
- 34:17Speaker 7: bit worried that that's where they're going with it, and
- 34:19Speaker 7: I think that's rude. Now I'm going to find out
- 34:21Speaker 7: who's did it.
- 34:22Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of the new people, the one of
- 34:24Speaker 3: the ones who I don't know their name yet.
- 34:26Speaker 4: This hasn't been happening all along. This is a new thing.
- 34:28Speaker 8: Therefore, Yeah, these new people who have just infiltrated are
- 34:33Speaker 8: envirl right exactly. It's just like the Seahawks when they're
- 34:35Speaker 8: talking about bringing in free agents and things like that.
- 34:38Speaker 8: You can't have somebody that comes in and disrupts the
- 34:41Speaker 8: flow at work.
- 34:42Speaker 4: And this is proof.
- 34:43Speaker 3: I've been I've been working with Bender without worrying about
- 34:47Speaker 3: somebody sneaking up on me. Yeah, you know, stabbing me
- 34:50Speaker 3: in the back for a good ten years in the
- 34:52Speaker 3: same building and never once is the Great King Neptune
- 34:56Speaker 3: made me oopsie poopsy.
- 34:58Speaker 8: You bring in aj Brown and all of a sudden,
- 35:00Speaker 8: popsie poopsies for everyone.
- 35:02Speaker 3: Yep, all right, well I leave it to you, Bucky,
- 35:04Speaker 3: to get to the bottom of I will now you're
- 35:06Speaker 3: the muscle of the show. So let's find out. Coming
- 35:09Speaker 3: up next, your eight top stories of today. It is
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