Latest / Becker’s Payer Issues Podcast / Closing the Rural Telehealth Gap in Chronic Care with Sarah Adkins
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- 0:51- Hi, everyone. This is Elizabeth Cassello with the
- 0:53- Becker's Payer Issues podcast.
- 0:55- I'm excited today to be joined by Sarah
- 0:57- Atkins,
- 0:58- director of public policy with the Elevance Health
- 1:00- Public Policy Institute.
- 1:02- Sarah, thank you so much for joining us
- 1:03- today. Hey. Thanks for having me here today,
- 1:06- Liz. I'm excited
- 1:07- to talk to you about the topic at
- 1:09- hand.
- 1:10- Of course. We're gonna go into some really
- 1:12- great research, that came out of the institute
- 1:14- pretty recently. But before we do that, Sarah,
- 1:16- do you wanna give an overview of your
- 1:18- background and your role at Elevance Health?
- 1:20- Absolutely.
- 1:21- So I have been with Elevance Health and
- 1:23- the Public Policy Institute for about five years
- 1:26- now. Elevance
- 1:27- Health's the the Public Policy Institute, just a
- 1:30- quick note to to tell you a little
- 1:31- bit about the approach we have here. We,
- 1:34- study what's happening across the health care system
- 1:36- and translate those insights into evidence that help
- 1:39- shape smarter health policy, essentially.
- 1:41- Our work helps policymakers
- 1:43- and health care leaders make more informed decisions
- 1:46- about improving care and affordability.
- 1:49- As far as my background, I've spent really
- 1:51- the entirety of my career working in the
- 1:53- health care sector across all different representing all
- 1:55- different factions. Most recently, obviously, with the payers,
- 1:59- but I've worked with provider groups. I've, worked
- 2:02- with patient groups over the years. So I
- 2:04- have kind of a a the good fortune
- 2:06- of having worked across the entire site the
- 2:08- entire industry to kind of understand from a
- 2:10- holistic perspective,
- 2:12- how the parts work.
- 2:13- So with the research we're gonna touch on
- 2:15- today, I would love to hear some of
- 2:17- your main takeaways,
- 2:18- in regards to telehealth and specifically the gap
- 2:21- in telehealth uptake between rural and nonrural
- 2:24- populations.
- 2:25- Sure.
- 2:26- Yeah. I would say that the clearest takeaway
- 2:29- is that, since the initial surge in use
- 2:32- during the COVID nineteen
- 2:34- pandemic,
- 2:35- telehealth remains part of, chronic conditions care, but
- 2:38- rural communities are not using it at the
- 2:41- same rate as nonrural communities.
- 2:43- Across 11,500,000
- 2:45- members and 15 chronic conditions,
- 2:48- seven point five percent of visits among members
- 2:50- live in nonrural areas,
- 2:53- and those were are are living in nonrural
- 2:55- areas were delivered through telehealth compared with four
- 2:57- point six percent among members living in rural
- 3:00- areas.
- 3:01- For example, from 2022 to 2025,
- 3:04- telehealth generally accounted for about five to eight
- 3:07- percent of chronic condition visits in nonrural populations
- 3:11- versus roughly three to five percent in rural
- 3:13- populations depending on the insurance type.
- 3:16- Really, these findings are important because telehealth is
- 3:19- often viewed as a way to overcome barriers
- 3:22- to accessing
- 3:23- health care in rural areas
- 3:25- because of things like provider shortages, travel time,
- 3:27- and lack of public transportation.
- 3:29- But based on our findings, members in rural
- 3:32- areas are still using telehealth less.
- 3:35- To touch on this a little bit with
- 3:37- the pandemic era flexibilities
- 3:39- and everything,
- 3:40- and this study spans 2021 and ended in
- 3:43- 2025.
- 3:44- So while most conditions had a spike and
- 3:46- then a decline,
- 3:47- dietary counseling and surveillance, which had to do
- 3:50- with its connection to obesity management, and that's
- 3:52- why that was studied, had a less pronounced
- 3:55- form of that. So could you explain why
- 3:57- you think that might be?
- 4:00- Sure. So the study itself did not test
- 4:02- the reason for this pattern,
- 4:04- but one hypothesis is that the persistence of
- 4:07- telehealth
- 4:08- for dietary counseling and surveillance may reflect growing
- 4:11- attention
- 4:12- broadly to obesity management and GLP one uptake
- 4:15- generally during the study period you mentioned.
- 4:17- The growth in volume for dietary counseling and
- 4:20- surveillance services was true for in person visits
- 4:22- during that period as well for obesity management.
- 4:26- Yeah. I think it's really interesting to see
- 4:27- that trend with everything we're seeing in the
- 4:29- GLP one space right now. And then another
- 4:32- condition that was specifically mentioned in the report
- 4:34- was obstructive sleep apnea, and it's higher telehealth
- 4:37- use relative to some other observed chronic conditions,
- 4:40- even with the rural population too. So,
- 4:43- the highest percentage of telehealth visits overall was
- 4:45- among non rural commercial members for obstructive sleep
- 4:48- apnea at fourteen point three percent, followed by
- 4:50- non rural Medicaid members for the same condition
- 4:53- at twelve point seven percent. So was that
- 4:55- surprising to you at all?
- 4:57- I would say it was notable, although not
- 4:59- necessarily
- 5:00- surprising.
- 5:02- Obstructive sleep apnea may be particularly
- 5:05- compatible with virtual follow-up because portions of ongoing
- 5:08- management can involve
- 5:09- reviewing symptoms, discussing adherence, evaluating response to treatment,
- 5:14- and reviewing the data all virtually. And these
- 5:16- these don't necessarily require a physical exam.
- 5:19- And similarly, sleep studies,
- 5:21- to diagnose sleep apnea have increased increasingly shifted
- 5:24- from the office to home based studies. And
- 5:27- so it would make sense that the follow-up
- 5:28- activities could also occur virtually.
- 5:31- That said, the study was to describe was
- 5:33- really developed to describe utilization patterns, not to
- 5:36- determine why one condition had higher telehealth use
- 5:39- than another. So we can really only hypothesize
- 5:42- as to what caused the higher rates. I
- 5:44- would say that remain what remains striking
- 5:47- is that even for obstructive sleep apnea,
- 5:49- the condition with the highest telehealth rate that
- 5:51- we looked at, the same differences persisted geographically.
- 5:55- Rural populations still use telehealth less than their
- 5:58- nonrural counterparts, and that reinforces that broader conclusion
- 6:01- that we talked about that there are barriers
- 6:03- to
- 6:04- or preferences against accessing
- 6:06- telehealth in rural areas that aren't as present
- 6:09- in nonrural areas.
- 6:11- One thing that the study noted was it
- 6:13- excludes behavioral health conditions and members with cancer
- 6:16- or organ transplant history. So
- 6:19- if those populations were included, how could you
- 6:21- foresee
- 6:22- everything changing, especially when it comes for rural
- 6:24- areas, if you think there would be a
- 6:26- substantial change?
- 6:27- Sure. A couple a couple of things there
- 6:29- are happening. So including behavioral health conditions
- 6:33- would likely raise the overall share of care
- 6:35- delivered through telehealth because we know that behavioral
- 6:38- health care has been one of the most
- 6:40- established applications for virtual care. The paper specifically
- 6:44- excluded behavioral health because telehealth use in that
- 6:47- field has already been extensively studied. And the
- 6:49- literature that we looked at does tell us
- 6:52- that similar to these findings related to physical
- 6:55- health, there is less telehealth utilization in rural
- 6:58- areas for behavioral health conditions as compared to
- 7:00- utilization in non rural areas.
- 7:02- And then moving over and talking a little
- 7:04- bit about members or patients with cancer or
- 7:07- history of transplant,
- 7:09- that could change the findings in in sort
- 7:10- of a different way. These individuals,
- 7:13- have greater clinical complexity,
- 7:15- more frequent care needs, and a greater need
- 7:18- for physical examinations, lab testing, and other kinds
- 7:21- of things that happen in an in person
- 7:22- modality.
- 7:23- And telehealth may be useful for some selected
- 7:26- follow ups,
- 7:27- but we do think that their needs fundamentally
- 7:29- are different from other chronic conditions and wouldn't
- 7:31- it really wouldn't have been appropriate to aggregate
- 7:34- them into our results.
- 7:36- I see. Yeah. That makes sense. And at
- 7:38- the end of the report, there were a
- 7:39- couple of high level recommendations, and I'm just
- 7:42- saying this directly from the report. It called
- 7:44- for broader investments in digital infrastructure,
- 7:46- and that was beyond telehealth access policies alone.
- 7:49- So what could those investments
- 7:51- look like?
- 7:53- They could include both physical infrastructure and practical
- 7:57- support for patients.
- 7:59- On the infrastructure
- 8:00- side, that could mean expanding reliable high speed
- 8:04- broadband and cellular coverage coverage in rural communities,
- 8:07- improving affordability for broadband access, and ensuring that
- 8:10- patients have access to the actual devices that
- 8:13- can be used for telehealth.
- 8:15- On the support side, it could include
- 8:18- digital literacy assistance,
- 8:20- help actually setting up and testing technology,
- 8:23- and technical support before and after appointments,
- 8:26- language access services, and and education in general
- 8:29- on when and how to use telehealth.
- 8:32- Again, the broader point here is that coverage
- 8:34- and reimbursement policies are necessary to promote telehealth
- 8:37- use, but they may not be sufficient. Individuals
- 8:40- have to obtain a stable connection, afford a
- 8:43- device,
- 8:44- and navigate the platform, and also find a
- 8:46- private place actually to conduct the visit.
- 8:50- So this podcast is primarily for payer executives,
- 8:53- but other health care leaders too may be
- 8:55- listening. So what advice do you have or
- 8:57- any sort of final takeaways in regards to
- 9:00- this research for that audience?
- 9:03- The first takeaway
- 9:04- is that offering telehealth does not necessarily guarantee
- 9:08- consistent uptake of the services across health plan
- 9:11- members.
- 9:12- Leaders should be considering measuring adoption
- 9:16- by geography,
- 9:17- coverage type, condition, and socioeconomic
- 9:20- characteristics to identify where eligible members are not
- 9:23- using the services at the rates that we
- 9:25- would expect.
- 9:27- Secondly, telehealth strategies should be tailored rather than
- 9:30- uniform.
- 9:31- The report
- 9:32- found meaningful variation
- 9:35- by condition and insurance types.
- 9:37- For example, Medicaid members had comparatively high telehealth
- 9:40- use for obesity and dietary counseling,
- 9:42- and those populations may require different clinical models,
- 9:46- outreach, and support.
- 9:47- And overall, I would say telehealth should be
- 9:50- viewed as as one tool to improve access,
- 9:53- continuity,
- 9:54- and quality outcomes for members.
- 9:57- Well, Sarah, thank you so much for taking
- 9:59- the time to chat with us today. Thank
- 10:00- you, Liz. It was a pleasure to be
- 10:02- here. Of course. And to our listeners, if
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- 10:09- Thank you.