Latest / UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT / Not of This World: Eight Truly Weird Extraterrestrial Encounters
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
- 0:03Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Thank you
- 0:06Speaker 1: so much for joining me. I truly appreciate it. I've
- 0:09Speaker 1: got a fantastic episode for you today, certainly hope. So
- 0:13Speaker 1: I'm going to be talking about my favorite aspect of ufology,
- 0:16Speaker 1: which is, of course, humanoid encounters. There are so many
- 0:20Speaker 1: of them. Each and every one, I think dives to
- 0:23Speaker 1: the very heart of the UFO phenomena and really holds
- 0:26Speaker 1: a lot of the answers as to what's going on here.
- 0:30Speaker 1: The title of today's episode is Not of this World
- 0:34Speaker 1: eight truly weird extraterrestrial Encounters. I've got cases from all
- 0:39Speaker 1: over the world, including Australia, Brazil, Canada, England, Spain, New Mexico, Pennsylvania,
- 0:50Speaker 1: and Virginia. These cases are truly unusual. I love finding
- 0:55Speaker 1: these lesser known cases that haven't gotten a lot of publicity,
- 1:00Speaker 1: ones that are really unusual in some way or have
- 1:03Speaker 1: something to offer to our understanding of extratrustrial contact on
- 1:07Speaker 1: this planet. So let's get going. First case I want
- 1:11Speaker 1: to talk about today is a very early case, and gosh,
- 1:14Speaker 1: is this one unusual? I call this one the aliens
- 1:18Speaker 1: and the white wolf. This one occurred in January of
- 1:22Speaker 1: nineteen thirty nine in Lake Abitibi in Canada, and this
- 1:27Speaker 1: is a kind of encounter that is absolutely unique in
- 1:31Speaker 1: the literature. This very early encounter was investigated by French
- 1:36Speaker 1: Canadian researcher Jean Ferguson and later by researcher Donald Seyr,
- 1:42Speaker 1: who also interviewed both witnesses families and confirmed the details
- 1:45Speaker 1: of the case. This case involves two witnesses, a gentleman
- 1:49Speaker 1: by the name of Demas Landry and his associate known
- 1:53Speaker 1: only by his first name and last initial, hormidus l.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Both men were lumberjacks. It was a very cold day
- 2:01Speaker 1: somewhere around January eighth, ninth or tenth in nineteen thirty
- 2:06Speaker 1: nine or perhaps nineteen forty now. Despite it being a
- 2:09Speaker 1: sunny day, the temperature was very cold, about negative sixty
- 2:13Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit. Demas and Hormidas had been working near Lake Abitibi,
- 2:19Speaker 1: located on the border of Quebec and Ontario in Canada.
- 2:23Speaker 1: This is a fairly large lake, about three hundred and
- 2:26Speaker 1: fifty nine square miles. Its shallow and surrounded by thick forests.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Was sometime in the afternoon that the two men decided
- 2:35Speaker 1: to take a rest and sit down on some of
- 2:37Speaker 1: the fir tree branches that they had cut. Without warning,
- 2:41Speaker 1: a large white wolf emerged from the tree line and
- 2:44Speaker 1: sat down about one hundred feet away from the two men. This,
- 2:48Speaker 1: of course caught their attention. Then, coming out from the
- 2:52Speaker 1: same place where the wolf had emerged, they were even
- 2:55Speaker 1: more surprised to see about six two and a half
- 2:58Speaker 1: foot tall figures come walking out of the trees. Now,
- 3:02Speaker 1: these little figures were not normal humans. They looked very unusual.
- 3:07Speaker 1: They had yellowish skin, flat faces with small slanted eyes
- 3:11Speaker 1: and small facial features. Their heads were flat and they
- 3:15Speaker 1: had almost no chin, and their ears were described as
- 3:19Speaker 1: triangular shaped. These beings wore dark green, puffy suits and
- 3:23Speaker 1: apparently no gloves, as the witnesses said that their fingers
- 3:27Speaker 1: had no joints. All. The little men were perfectly identical
- 3:31Speaker 1: in appearance. Now, both Demas and Hormiitis noticed something else
- 3:36Speaker 1: very odd. Despite the fact that it was sixty degrees
- 3:40Speaker 1: below zero, there was no visible condensation coming from their mouths.
- 3:45Speaker 1: Also weird, these little men walked across the deep snow
- 3:48Speaker 1: without snow shoes. And without sinking into the snow. Now,
- 3:52Speaker 1: all this was strange enough, but what happened next was
- 3:55Speaker 1: something the witnesses could hardly believe. One of the little
- 3:59Speaker 1: men left them the others and began to walk towards
- 4:01Speaker 1: the wolf. The wolf immediately bristled with aggression, but the
- 4:05Speaker 1: little man still continued to approach it, and upon getting
- 4:09Speaker 1: close to it, the little man raised his hand and
- 4:12Speaker 1: spoke apparently to the wolf. Neither Demas nor Hormidis could
- 4:16Speaker 1: understand the language, but said it sounded to them sort
- 4:20Speaker 1: of like algonquin. Immediately, the wolf lunged and tore this
- 4:24Speaker 1: poor little man to pieces. This little being was actually
- 4:28Speaker 1: torn limb from limb and bled brown blood into the snow,
- 4:32Speaker 1: and apparently lay down and died. Now, seeing this, Damas
- 4:37Speaker 1: immediately jumped up and threw a branch and shouted at
- 4:40Speaker 1: the wolf, and the wolf quickly ran away. Now, the
- 4:44Speaker 1: remaining humanoids who had stood off in the background, walked
- 4:48Speaker 1: up and examined the remains of their fallen comrade. They
- 4:51Speaker 1: showed no signs of distress. After about five minutes, one
- 4:56Speaker 1: of them produced a bag and proceeded to collect all
- 4:58Speaker 1: the pieces of the deceas east beings body and placed
- 5:01Speaker 1: them in the bag. Then all of the beings walked
- 5:04Speaker 1: back into the forest at high speed. Now Demas and
- 5:08Speaker 1: Hormidas attempted to follow the little men, but the little
- 5:11Speaker 1: men quickly outpaced them. However, Demas and Hormidis were able
- 5:15Speaker 1: to follow their tracks into the forest, and as they did,
- 5:20Speaker 1: they heard a loud banging sound ahead of them. Rushing ahead,
- 5:24Speaker 1: they found a circular depression in the snow, kind of
- 5:26Speaker 1: a hollowed out basin, with all the snow ejected outwards
- 5:30Speaker 1: as if an object had landed there, and took off,
- 5:33Speaker 1: pushing the snow out in all directions. Afterwards, they did
- 5:38Speaker 1: find a small piece of the green fabric from the
- 5:40Speaker 1: desuit of the deceased alien, which they described as being
- 5:44Speaker 1: kind of like green gelatinous rubber. They tried to cut
- 5:48Speaker 1: it with their axe without effect, but what happened to
- 5:51Speaker 1: this remnant is unknown. What an amazing case that is,
- 5:55Speaker 1: and so unusual. I've never heard of those humanoids before.
- 6:00Speaker 1: I've never heard of an et being attacked by a wolf,
- 6:03Speaker 1: though I have to say I do know of another
- 6:04Speaker 1: case where a dog ripped an et apart to shreds
- 6:08Speaker 1: very much in the same way. This one did so
- 6:12Speaker 1: an amazing case, and that's also very well verified. There
- 6:16Speaker 1: are two witnesses, there's physical evidence, was investigated by two
- 6:20Speaker 1: researchers who not only talked to the witnesses but absolutely
- 6:25Speaker 1: corroborated it by talking to the witnesses families. So yeah,
- 6:28Speaker 1: it appears to be an absolutely legit But what an
- 6:32Speaker 1: unusual case. So now let's move to the next one,
- 6:36Speaker 1: which did get quite a bit of publicity at the time,
- 6:38Speaker 1: but it's really not that well known, and it's got
- 6:41Speaker 1: some fascinating aspects to it which I think make it
- 6:43Speaker 1: really important. I call this one we come on a
- 6:47Speaker 1: peaceful mission. This one occurred on October tenth, nineteen fifty seven,
- 6:53Speaker 1: in Quebra Coco. This is in Brazil. This is an
- 6:58Speaker 1: absolutely lovely case which provides an interesting insight, I think,
- 7:03Speaker 1: as to why the ets are here. As the title implies,
- 7:08Speaker 1: this very dramatic case was published in Brazilian newspapers and
- 7:13Speaker 1: eventually found its way into numerous UFO publications, including The
- 7:17Speaker 1: Muffon Journal, the Brazilian Journal, sbe d V Bulletin, the
- 7:22Speaker 1: Flying Saucer Review, and more. Although very well verified, the
- 7:27Speaker 1: case is not that well known. The two witnesses include
- 7:31Speaker 1: Miguel Espanol Navaret Fernandez, he was a thirty five year
- 7:35Speaker 1: old Spanish naval officer and mineralogist, and his driver Guido.
- 7:41Speaker 1: According to one source, they were returning from a fishing
- 7:44Speaker 1: trip and had stopped off at a farm and loaded
- 7:48Speaker 1: merchandise onto their truck, which they were planning to transport
- 7:51Speaker 1: to the town of Series for Miguel's employer, a coffee
- 7:55Speaker 1: company by the name of exportico A m porticao Planulta Ltd.
- 8:01Speaker 1: They left the farm around six pm. For two hours,
- 8:05Speaker 1: they drove without incident, but at around eight pm, when
- 8:09Speaker 1: they were about three miles outside of the small town
- 8:12Speaker 1: of Quebra Coco in Ciries Goyas, Brazil, Guido called Miguel's
- 8:17Speaker 1: attention to a bright gleam of light over the hill
- 8:20Speaker 1: ahead of them. It was a purple light. Miguel told
- 8:23Speaker 1: Guido that it was probably just another truck heading towards them,
- 8:27Speaker 1: but as they crested over the top of the hill,
- 8:30Speaker 1: both men saw that this brilliant violet colored light ahead
- 8:33Speaker 1: of them on the highway was so bright that it
- 8:36Speaker 1: blinded them and illuminated the surrounding countryside, and they could
- 8:40Speaker 1: see that it was a craft of some kind and
- 8:43Speaker 1: it was huge. They estimate that it was about four
- 8:46Speaker 1: hundred and fifty to five hundred feet wide, about one
- 8:49Speaker 1: hundred and thirty feet high, and as they drove closer
- 8:52Speaker 1: they could see that yes, this was a flying saucer
- 8:54Speaker 1: that was suspended directly over the highway. They drove beneath
- 8:59Speaker 1: the craft without any strange effects, but before they could
- 9:02Speaker 1: get away, this massive craft suddenly darted to a point
- 9:05Speaker 1: ahead of them and then began to zoom towards them. Naturally,
- 9:10Speaker 1: this terrified Guido, who was driving, and he shouted out,
- 9:14Speaker 1: my god, that ball is going to hit the truck.
- 9:17Speaker 1: At this point, the truck's electrical system cut out, and
- 9:21Speaker 1: Guido lost control of the vehicle and swerved off the road.
- 9:25Speaker 1: The two men were so frightened that they weren't sure
- 9:27Speaker 1: if they should run away or stay the truck and
- 9:29Speaker 1: wait to see what happened, But with nowhere to go,
- 9:32Speaker 1: they just stayed in the truck. Immediately, the craft came
- 9:35Speaker 1: to a stop and descended to a height of about
- 9:38Speaker 1: twenty feet above the road and one hundred and forty
- 9:41Speaker 1: feet away. The blinding light went out, and they could
- 9:45Speaker 1: now see the oval disk shape, which they said looked
- 9:48Speaker 1: like two shallow bowls placed edge to edge with a
- 9:52Speaker 1: central band between them, about fifty to sixty feet thick.
- 9:56Speaker 1: The craft was mostly featureless except for a very time tall,
- 10:00Speaker 1: thin aerial, which they estimate was about one hundred and
- 10:03Speaker 1: thirty feet long. At the very tip of this aerial
- 10:06Speaker 1: there was a bright red light. Now immediately after seeing
- 10:10Speaker 1: this craft, a large arched opening appeared on the lower section.
- 10:15Speaker 1: It opened from top to bottom, and a soft red
- 10:18Speaker 1: light shone out through the opening. Moments later, two beings
- 10:22Speaker 1: appeared in this arched doorway. Immediately two more joined the
- 10:27Speaker 1: first two, and then another two arrived, followed by one more,
- 10:31Speaker 1: for a total of seven beings. Each of these beings
- 10:35Speaker 1: were human looking with long hair, but were very short
- 10:39Speaker 1: and slim, the size of children. They all wore luminescent
- 10:43Speaker 1: shiny suits with a glowing red section on their chests,
- 10:47Speaker 1: which was bright enough to make it difficult for the
- 10:49Speaker 1: men to discern their facial features. Guido tried frantically and
- 10:55Speaker 1: repeatedly to get the truck going, but the engine was
- 10:58Speaker 1: totally dead. Then just stood in the doorway and stared
- 11:02Speaker 1: at the men for about three to five minutes. Miguel
- 11:06Speaker 1: said that as the men stared at him in Guido,
- 11:09Speaker 1: he felt as though he was in a trance and
- 11:11Speaker 1: had a strange feeling that the beings were talking to him.
- 11:14Speaker 1: As he says, when those small men were looking at me,
- 11:18Speaker 1: I went into a trance like state and had the
- 11:20Speaker 1: strange feeling that they were saying, quote, we come on
- 11:24Speaker 1: a peaceful mission. Then, without warning, the beings moved away
- 11:29Speaker 1: from the opening and back into the craft. The doorway closed,
- 11:33Speaker 1: the ship climbed to a height of about sixteen hundred feet,
- 11:37Speaker 1: and suddenly this massive mother ship released a smaller, disc
- 11:41Speaker 1: shaped craft. The small craft flew off to the north
- 11:45Speaker 1: and this large, massive craft went south. Both disappeared off
- 11:49Speaker 1: into the distance, and once they were out of view,
- 11:52Speaker 1: the truck started normally. The two men now drove as
- 11:55Speaker 1: fast as they dared to the town of Ceres and
- 11:58Speaker 1: reported the incident to the police, including to Judge Gabriel
- 12:02Speaker 1: Barbosa de Andradi, who was so impressed by the men's
- 12:05Speaker 1: testimonies that he actually wrote a letter detailing the incident
- 12:10Speaker 1: to the head Justice for the state of Goyas a
- 12:13Speaker 1: man by the name of Antenor Gomez now. Later researcher
- 12:17Speaker 1: Olivo Tifontes interviewed both men, and as he interviewed them,
- 12:22Speaker 1: he said that they were both still very emotional about
- 12:25Speaker 1: the encounter. Interestingly, five days after this encounter, the world
- 12:30Speaker 1: famous Antonio vs. Bois case would take place in Brazil
- 12:35Speaker 1: and become the first UFO abduction case to receive worldwide publicity.
- 12:39Speaker 1: A crazy case, that one is. I have to think
- 12:42Speaker 1: that this is intentional. Perhaps it was opportunistic in that
- 12:46Speaker 1: the eetes just saw this car driving along on a
- 12:49Speaker 1: lonely highway at night. Quite a few cases have that pattern,
- 12:54Speaker 1: But it certainly looks like it was intentional in that
- 12:56Speaker 1: they basically were hovering right over the road in a
- 13:01Speaker 1: way that you could not help but miss this craft.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Seeing this craft. What's so amazing to me is that
- 13:09Speaker 1: the witness felt like he had telepathic contact with the ets,
- 13:13Speaker 1: who basically said that we're here on a peaceful mission.
- 13:16Speaker 1: So to me, it looks like they're basically announcing their
- 13:19Speaker 1: presence to these two gentlemen. Or I think it's possible
- 13:23Speaker 1: that perhaps this encounter was more extensive and the witnesses
- 13:27Speaker 1: remember also really interesting to me is that this was
- 13:31Speaker 1: just days before the very famous Antonio villaz Boas encounter,
- 13:36Speaker 1: which would electrify the entire world and really be the
- 13:40Speaker 1: first case of someone being taken on board to get
- 13:43Speaker 1: any significant publicity. So that alone makes this case pretty interesting.
- 13:49Speaker 1: All right. Now, let's move to another really fascinating case
- 13:53Speaker 1: from Australia. I call this one the Aliens and the
- 13:57Speaker 1: Gas storage Tank. This one occurred throughout September and October
- 14:03Speaker 1: of nineteen seventy three. There's actually quite a few incidents,
- 14:06Speaker 1: mostly sightings, but also of course a humanoid encounter, or
- 14:10Speaker 1: I wouldn't have included it in this compilation. This one
- 14:13Speaker 1: occurred in Melbourne, Australia, and again this has some important
- 14:17Speaker 1: insights because we often see UFOs showing an interest in
- 14:21Speaker 1: our technology, and that appears to be what's going on here.
- 14:25Speaker 1: This intriguing and complicated multiple witness case was originally investigated
- 14:30Speaker 1: by George ala Jusos and appeared in the volume twenty five,
- 14:34Speaker 1: number one issue of Flying Saucer Journal. It began on
- 14:38Speaker 1: the night of September twenty eight, nineteen seventy three, when
- 14:41Speaker 1: a witness sighted a glowing starlike object hovering over a
- 14:46Speaker 1: large gas storage tank located on Macauley Road in Melbourne, Australia.
- 14:52Speaker 1: It was the very next night, September twenty nine, at
- 14:55Speaker 1: six thirty pm, that fourteen year old Frank Alessio stepped
- 15:00Speaker 1: out onto the front porch of his home on Queensberry Street.
- 15:03Speaker 1: This is just a stone's throw south of the above sighting,
- 15:07Speaker 1: and he saw a large disc shaped craft hovering he
- 15:11Speaker 1: estimates about one hundred feet above the factories near his home.
- 15:15Speaker 1: He described this object as dull, metallic gray, glowing red
- 15:20Speaker 1: on the bottom section, and he said the circumference of
- 15:23Speaker 1: the craft had a row of small white lights. Now,
- 15:26Speaker 1: using a pair of binoculars, he could see that there
- 15:29Speaker 1: were smaller red lights situated around the white lights. Frank
- 15:33Speaker 1: shouted for his brother to come see, and as if
- 15:36Speaker 1: in response, the craft immediately emitted a high pitched whining
- 15:40Speaker 1: buzz and slowly quote faded out and then disappeared. By
- 15:46Speaker 1: the time Frank's brother arrived, the craft was gone. The
- 15:50Speaker 1: very next night, now September thirty, again, at six thirty pm,
- 15:54Speaker 1: another witness, Wayne Crompton, aged fourteen, stepped out onto the
- 15:59Speaker 1: balcony of his home located at ninety four Canning Street
- 16:04Speaker 1: then are directly adjacent to the two above sightings, and
- 16:07Speaker 1: he described seeing a craft dull gray metallic hovering less
- 16:12Speaker 1: than one hundred feet above this same gas storage tank
- 16:16Speaker 1: on Macauley Road. He described it almost exactly as Frank
- 16:20Speaker 1: Alessio had dull gray metallic disk emitting a red glow
- 16:24Speaker 1: from the bottom. But the only difference was Frank had
- 16:28Speaker 1: only seen one row of white lights, whereas Wayne said
- 16:31Speaker 1: that there were three. But like Frank, Wayne said that
- 16:34Speaker 1: the object made a loud, buzzing wine and faded away. Now,
- 16:38Speaker 1: at this point, none of the witnesses knew about each other.
- 16:42Speaker 1: Researcher George ala Juzos spoke with all three witnesses and
- 16:47Speaker 1: he decided to alert another resident who just happened to
- 16:50Speaker 1: live on the floor above Wayne Crompton. This witness is
- 16:55Speaker 1: Jim Cherasiou, aged thirteen, and he told him that there
- 16:59Speaker 1: had been sightings three days in a row in this
- 17:02Speaker 1: area and asked him to keep an eye on the
- 17:06Speaker 1: gas tank in particular and see if any UFOs showed up.
- 17:10Speaker 1: And this tactic worked because the very next night, October first,
- 17:14Speaker 1: again at six thirty pm, Jim says that he saw
- 17:18Speaker 1: a large cigar shaped object with three white lights on
- 17:22Speaker 1: the front end, moving towards the tank at about five
- 17:25Speaker 1: hundred feet altitude. It quickly descended to a much lower
- 17:29Speaker 1: elevation and proceeded to start maneuvering around the tank. Jim
- 17:34Speaker 1: said that the object looked kind of like a twenty
- 17:36Speaker 1: cent piece. He said it positioned itself at the edge
- 17:39Speaker 1: of the tank, stopped, tilted, hovered for a few seconds,
- 17:43Speaker 1: and then shot off at great speed upwards to the north.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Now later, the researcher George A. La Jusos found yet
- 17:51Speaker 1: another witness, a man by the name of Greg Stillman,
- 17:54Speaker 1: who said that around six point thirty one evening around
- 17:57Speaker 1: the same time he didn't know the exact date, he
- 18:00Speaker 1: also saw a metallic disc encircled with a row of
- 18:04Speaker 1: lights flying over Canning Street. That's right in this area.
- 18:08Speaker 1: So by this time the researcher George had enlisted the
- 18:12Speaker 1: assistance of a local resident by the name of Kelvin Shaw,
- 18:15Speaker 1: who was helping him in his investigations for the last
- 18:19Speaker 1: four days. This UFO had arrived at precisely six thirty pm,
- 18:23Speaker 1: so it seemed predictable that the UFO would show up
- 18:25Speaker 1: again on October second, but unfortunately it did not. However,
- 18:31Speaker 1: the very next night, October third, brought a whole new
- 18:35Speaker 1: level of contact. Kelvin Shaw says that he was asleep
- 18:39Speaker 1: in the bedroom of his home again in this same
- 18:41Speaker 1: area where all these sightings had taken place that week.
- 18:45Speaker 1: He shared his room with his older brother, and at
- 18:48Speaker 1: some point in the middle of the night on October third,
- 18:51Speaker 1: he woke up to sense a presence in his room.
- 18:54Speaker 1: Sitting up in bed, he saw two tall figures standing
- 18:58Speaker 1: against the wall on the fire side of his bedroom.
- 19:01Speaker 1: Both figures, he said, appeared to be floating about one
- 19:05Speaker 1: foot above the floor and were swaying slightly from side
- 19:09Speaker 1: to side. And although the room was very dark, there
- 19:12Speaker 1: was enough light to see that the two figures had large,
- 19:15Speaker 1: bald heads, narrow thin eyes, small flat noses, slit like mouths,
- 19:22Speaker 1: and ears pressed to the side of their head. Was
- 19:25Speaker 1: too dark to see much of their clothes or bodies,
- 19:28Speaker 1: but Kelvin watched the strange figures with no fear, just
- 19:31Speaker 1: curiosity for just a few moments when one of the
- 19:34Speaker 1: figures opened its mouth, and at that moment he heard
- 19:38Speaker 1: a high pitched whining sound fill the room and the
- 19:41Speaker 1: two figures slowly faded away. Now that seemed to be
- 19:45Speaker 1: the end of the visitations, but of course it wasn't.
- 19:49Speaker 1: Investigator George A. La Jusos was really surprised to hear that.
- 19:53Speaker 1: Months later, on January twentieth, nineteen seventy four, John Shirisieu,
- 20:00Speaker 1: the younger brother of witness Jim, said that now he
- 20:03Speaker 1: saw a gray metallic disc, apparently the same one, maneuvering
- 20:07Speaker 1: around this same gas tank on Macauley Street. He returned
- 20:11Speaker 1: again on January twenty first, and on January twenty fourth.
- 20:16Speaker 1: The next evening, January twenty fifth, it arrived again and
- 20:20Speaker 1: was seen by much of the Cherisiou family, including Jim's
- 20:24Speaker 1: brothers John and Mario, and his sister Stella. They all
- 20:29Speaker 1: confirmed that the object circled the tank at least five times,
- 20:33Speaker 1: then proceeded to perform a series of turns and dives,
- 20:36Speaker 1: and at one point approached very close to their home
- 20:39Speaker 1: at ninety four Canning Street. After it went away, the
- 20:43Speaker 1: family was very impressed, so they equipped themselves with a
- 20:46Speaker 1: camera just in case it returned again. But it seemed
- 20:50Speaker 1: the craft was gone. It wasn't. Two months later, on
- 20:54Speaker 1: March eighteen, Frank Alessio's father, Joe Alessio, became a witness.
- 21:00Speaker 1: He stepped out into his backyard on Queensberry Street and
- 21:03Speaker 1: he saw the object, which he said glowed with bright
- 21:06Speaker 1: red light, bathing the area in illumination. He also said
- 21:11Speaker 1: he heard it emitting a strange noise before it finally
- 21:14Speaker 1: moved off. Finally, on June first, nineteen seventy four, researcher
- 21:19Speaker 1: George A. La Jusos himself saw the UFO in the area.
- 21:24Speaker 1: As George says, it passed by a very low and
- 21:27Speaker 1: dangerous altitude, possibly less than twice the height of the
- 21:31Speaker 1: twenty story flats. The craft resembled a thick cigar. Now,
- 21:36Speaker 1: there were further sightings of this UFO in September, and
- 21:40Speaker 1: shortly after all the sightings, in late September nineteen seventy four,
- 21:45Speaker 1: a factory in this area exploded. There was no apparent
- 21:49Speaker 1: connection to the prior sightings, but George himself did witness
- 21:52Speaker 1: the explosion and says that the fire went out mysteriously,
- 21:56Speaker 1: very quickly, and he believes that the UFOs may have
- 22:00Speaker 1: been observing this very old gas tank. As George says,
- 22:06Speaker 1: it is clear that some sort of observational work was
- 22:09Speaker 1: underway above the industrial area. Due to the lack of
- 22:13Speaker 1: people walking in the streets in the late hours, they
- 22:16Speaker 1: the ets had an excellent chance to observe without being observed.
- 22:22Speaker 1: Of particular interest was the McCauley Road gas tank and
- 22:25Speaker 1: the Canning Street twenty story block of flats. As for
- 22:29Speaker 1: why I cannot answer now, George does say that while
- 22:33Speaker 1: many of the witnesses were teenagers, not all were, and
- 22:36Speaker 1: he writes they were truthful in every respect and aided
- 22:40Speaker 1: me to the best of their abilities. Interestingly, this gas
- 22:45Speaker 1: tank was built way back in eighteen eighty nine, so
- 22:48Speaker 1: it was quite old and had apparently reached the end
- 22:51Speaker 1: of its useful life because it was demolished in nineteen
- 22:54Speaker 1: seventy eight, just a few years after all these sightings.
- 22:58Speaker 1: What's amazing to me about that case is the number
- 23:02Speaker 1: of sightings in a very sharply defined area right over
- 23:07Speaker 1: this gas tank, so it being really old. I wonder
- 23:12Speaker 1: perhaps this tank was at the end of its useful
- 23:15Speaker 1: life and it was posing a danger to the people
- 23:18Speaker 1: in Melbourne. Possibly. We don't have direct evidence of that,
- 23:23Speaker 1: but it's interesting to me that it was torn down
- 23:26Speaker 1: just a few years later after this series of sightings,
- 23:29Speaker 1: and there was that nearby explosion. So perhaps the eteeth
- 23:33Speaker 1: were basically just looking at this gas tank thinking this
- 23:36Speaker 1: is a problem, and trying to call attention to it.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I say that because there are similar cases to that.
- 23:42Speaker 1: I'm reminded of the Indian Point Nuclear Power Station in
- 23:47Speaker 1: upstate New York, as investigated by Philip and Bragno, where
- 23:51Speaker 1: UFO hovered over one of the nuclear towers there and
- 23:53Speaker 1: they later found out that there was a crack in
- 23:56Speaker 1: the actual casing there. So maybe that's what's going on
- 24:00Speaker 1: in this case. But are truly interesting humanoid encounter as
- 24:03Speaker 1: well involving ets that don't seem to be quite your
- 24:07Speaker 1: typical grays? Maybe they are. Maybe we're just labeling grays
- 24:12Speaker 1: as grays when actually there's a very wide difference in
- 24:17Speaker 1: what I would call it ethnicity or ancestry. Because the
- 24:20Speaker 1: number of different types of ets is off the charts,
- 24:24Speaker 1: it's very hard to categorize them all. Right, Now, let's
- 24:28Speaker 1: move to another case. A few of you have asked
- 24:31Speaker 1: me repeatedly, are there any cases involving non humanoids, non
- 24:36Speaker 1: bipedal beings? And while I occasionally run across them. I
- 24:41Speaker 1: find most of them not very credible, and I have
- 24:43Speaker 1: questions about them. But here's a case that I did
- 24:46Speaker 1: find quite credible, So I call this one encounter with
- 24:50Speaker 1: a non humanoid. This one occurred on August twenty second,
- 24:54Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, on the island of Majorca in Spain.
- 24:59Speaker 1: And this this is a truly incredible encounter, and actually
- 25:03Speaker 1: a series of encounters, which to me encouraged me to
- 25:07Speaker 1: include it because it wasn't just a one off. This
- 25:11Speaker 1: next very unusual case comes from longtime researcher Ignacio Darnaud
- 25:16Speaker 1: Rojas Marcos and was published in the August nineteen eighty
- 25:20Speaker 1: issue of the Apro Bulletin under the title the Spanish
- 25:24Speaker 1: Count who ran over a living Thing. The winness is anonymous,
- 25:29Speaker 1: but as the title of the article states, he is
- 25:31Speaker 1: a Spanish count, a forty seven year old aristocrat of nobility,
- 25:36Speaker 1: married with children, and he has a master's degree in
- 25:39Speaker 1: the sciences and was employed as the department manager for
- 25:43Speaker 1: a large factory. As Ignacio d'Arnaud writes, he is a
- 25:48Speaker 1: very normal individual, a realist and a witness of exceptional reliability.
- 25:54Speaker 1: With around ten thirty a m on August twenty second,
- 25:58Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, that the Count was driving his Renault
- 26:02Speaker 1: vehicle along the NA ten Highway just east of the
- 26:06Speaker 1: town of Eskorca, on the island of Majorca, Spain. He
- 26:10Speaker 1: just passed through a large stone gate and drove about
- 26:13Speaker 1: a half mile, coming around a corner just over forty
- 26:17Speaker 1: miles per hour. He came upon a short straightaway on
- 26:20Speaker 1: this mountain road and saw something standing in the middle
- 26:24Speaker 1: of the road that he could not identify. The thing,
- 26:28Speaker 1: as he called it, was about fourteen inches tall and
- 26:31Speaker 1: six inches wide, quite small, he said, it looked something
- 26:35Speaker 1: like a quote very stylized bowling pin, was milky white
- 26:40Speaker 1: in color, with soft edges, reminding him of a squid
- 26:43Speaker 1: or a jellyfish. And although he only saw it for
- 26:46Speaker 1: a few seconds, the Count felt intensely certain that this
- 26:51Speaker 1: thing was alive, a living being. He is one hundred
- 26:54Speaker 1: percent certain that it was not a road marker of
- 26:57Speaker 1: any kind, and in fact felt a wave of guilt,
- 27:02Speaker 1: as he had no sooner seen it when he was
- 27:03Speaker 1: about to run right over it, and the guilt of
- 27:07Speaker 1: realizing that he was about to kill a living being
- 27:10Speaker 1: struck him very profoundly. He said the road was too
- 27:13Speaker 1: narrow and dangerous for him to swerve, so he did
- 27:16Speaker 1: his best to center his vehicle so that his tires
- 27:19Speaker 1: would not hit the being. As he ran over it.
- 27:23Speaker 1: He did not hear anything or feel any sensation, but
- 27:26Speaker 1: passing over it, he glanced in his rear view mirror.
- 27:30Speaker 1: Although he had not felt or heard anything, the little
- 27:33Speaker 1: figure was now lying on its side. He continued driving,
- 27:37Speaker 1: but quickly turned around at the first possible spot and
- 27:40Speaker 1: returned to the location. He exited his vehicle and at
- 27:45Speaker 1: the exact spot where he had seen this thing and
- 27:47Speaker 1: ran over it. There was now a small wet stain
- 27:50Speaker 1: in the road. He carefully searched the surrounding area but
- 27:54Speaker 1: found nothing else. All signs of the creature or this
- 27:58Speaker 1: thing were gone. Now feeling a powerful feeling of remorse,
- 28:03Speaker 1: he continued his drive. Following the incident, he felt a
- 28:07Speaker 1: weird buzzing sensation in his ears and actually went to
- 28:10Speaker 1: the doctor for it, who had diagnosed it as hypertension.
- 28:14Speaker 1: This buzzing lasted for about five days. The count believes
- 28:18Speaker 1: that this thing, whatever it was, was some kind of
- 28:21Speaker 1: extra trustrial being, and as he told his father in law, quote,
- 28:25Speaker 1: you have to see the bad impression that the extra
- 28:28Speaker 1: trustrial must have taken with him for being so wickedly
- 28:31Speaker 1: run over. The whole event affected him very profoundly, So
- 28:36Speaker 1: profoundly that he returned to the exact location at least
- 28:39Speaker 1: four times, bringing his children and his father in law
- 28:43Speaker 1: with him, and conducting an even more exhaustive search, but
- 28:47Speaker 1: still found nothing. Another after effect was that, following this incident,
- 28:51Speaker 1: the count now carried a camera in his car in
- 28:54Speaker 1: case he should see something else. If not for the
- 28:57Speaker 1: fact that the witness has a very interesting supernatural history.
- 29:02Speaker 1: He is a successful dowser and once predicted the death
- 29:05Speaker 1: of a relative. And another very unusual event occurred when
- 29:09Speaker 1: he was eleven years old. He and his two siblings
- 29:13Speaker 1: were approaching an abandoned and destroyed Arabian castle when both
- 29:17Speaker 1: clearly saw an Arabian man complete with a turban, looking
- 29:21Speaker 1: out of one of the windows of the castle, and
- 29:23Speaker 1: then promptly vanishing. Most strange, however, was an event that
- 29:28Speaker 1: occurred when he was six years old. He was in
- 29:31Speaker 1: a country house with his mother, aunt and other children.
- 29:35Speaker 1: A bad storm was in the area when suddenly a
- 29:39Speaker 1: very bright ball of fire with blue edges about the
- 29:42Speaker 1: sides of a large orange slipped inside through a partially
- 29:46Speaker 1: opened window. This little ball of light crossed the living
- 29:50Speaker 1: room and went to a large mirror on the wall,
- 29:53Speaker 1: and then, moving with obvious intelligence and precision, it went
- 29:57Speaker 1: from each corner of the mirror to the the other,
- 30:00Speaker 1: stopping briefly at each corner, and then rapidly zipped out
- 30:04Speaker 1: of the house through another window, leaving behind a strong
- 30:07Speaker 1: odor of sulfur in the air. Now, the count only
- 30:11Speaker 1: agreed to share his experiences on the condition of complete anonymity.
- 30:17Speaker 1: It really can't blame witnesses for insisting upon anonymity, particularly
- 30:22Speaker 1: if they're people who hold an important position in society
- 30:26Speaker 1: or going forward would pose a danger to their reputation
- 30:32Speaker 1: or to their actual career. So I understand that, but
- 30:36Speaker 1: I certainly wish people would come forward because the skepticism
- 30:40Speaker 1: and gaslighting and ridicule surrounding this subject has to end,
- 30:44Speaker 1: and the only way to end it is for everyone
- 30:46Speaker 1: to be truthful, open and transparent. We're not seeing that
- 30:51Speaker 1: with our government. Despite recent steps towards disclosure, the cover
- 30:55Speaker 1: off is still firmly in place, so we still have
- 30:57Speaker 1: a lot of work to do. But again, each and
- 31:00Speaker 1: every case, each and every person who comes forward adds
- 31:04Speaker 1: to our knowledge of what's going on here. All right,
- 31:08Speaker 1: let's move to this next case, which I found really compelling.
- 31:13Speaker 1: I call this one something not of this world. This
- 31:17Speaker 1: one occurred one evening in the fall of nineteen seventy
- 31:20Speaker 1: nine in Clearville, Pennsylvania. It is a single witness case,
- 31:25Speaker 1: but again it has some really unusual elements to it,
- 31:29Speaker 1: some high strangeness, and it's just a really eerie and
- 31:32Speaker 1: unusual case. This case comes from researcher Nathaniel Brislane and
- 31:37Speaker 1: appeared in his well received book Crawlers, a conclusive case book.
- 31:41Speaker 1: The report is second hand from the wife of the witness,
- 31:44Speaker 1: who she calls ten That is, of course a pseudonym.
- 31:48Speaker 1: The encounter took place one autumn evening in nineteen seventy
- 31:52Speaker 1: nine at the our Lady of seven Delores Catholic Church
- 31:56Speaker 1: in rural Clearville, Pennsylvania. On the evening in question, Tim
- 32:01Speaker 1: then a young child went with his parents to the
- 32:04Speaker 1: church for a church function. All the parents were inside
- 32:07Speaker 1: the church hall while the kids played outside. Night arrived
- 32:11Speaker 1: and the kids were still playing. But after playing for
- 32:14Speaker 1: a while, all the kids decided to go back into
- 32:17Speaker 1: the church to get a drink, All except Tim, however,
- 32:20Speaker 1: who stayed outside. Now the church has its own small
- 32:24Speaker 1: graveyards located directly adjacent to the church, and among the
- 32:28Speaker 1: graves there are several tall, full grown spruce trees. Suddenly
- 32:33Speaker 1: Tim heard some loud crashing noises coming from one of
- 32:36Speaker 1: these nearby trees, and, as the wife of Tim says,
- 32:40Speaker 1: he looked up in the tree and saw a set
- 32:43Speaker 1: of eyeshine was almost like when a car pulls in
- 32:47Speaker 1: a lot and the headlights shine. They were shining green,
- 32:50Speaker 1: and in hindsight he compares it to when the predator
- 32:54Speaker 1: was up in the tree. As he saw it, it
- 32:57Speaker 1: jumped out of the tree and hit the ground and paused.
- 33:00Speaker 1: It looked at him for a split second. It was
- 33:03Speaker 1: a full bright moon, and once it got out of
- 33:05Speaker 1: the tree he could see it better on the ground.
- 33:08Speaker 1: Was about seven feet tall. The body was extremely skinny.
- 33:12Speaker 1: Everything on it was skinny, except for its head, which
- 33:15Speaker 1: resembled the head of e t large eyes that shone green.
- 33:20Speaker 1: The strangest part was the backward bent legs. It's something
- 33:24Speaker 1: you can't forget or mistake. They were bent back at
- 33:27Speaker 1: a severe angle. Then sharply came back to the front.
- 33:31Speaker 1: It had long feet. In the moment that it made
- 33:34Speaker 1: eye contact with Tim, it paralyzed him with fear. When
- 33:38Speaker 1: it took off, he'd never seen anything like it. It
- 33:42Speaker 1: went about three hundred yards in several seconds in a
- 33:45Speaker 1: curved pattern. The field is probably a half mile long.
- 33:49Speaker 1: After about three hundred yards, he lost sight of it.
- 33:52Speaker 1: Now Tim's wife points out that behind the church there
- 33:55Speaker 1: is a big cave system that the boys used to explore,
- 33:58Speaker 1: and in fact, there are several well known deep caves
- 34:01Speaker 1: within twenty miles of Clearville, and Tim wonders if perhaps
- 34:06Speaker 1: there might be a connection there. He doesn't know. All
- 34:09Speaker 1: he knows for sure is that the encounter frightened him badly.
- 34:13Speaker 1: As his wife says, he was so scared that he
- 34:16Speaker 1: ran inside and told his dad, crying the whole time.
- 34:20Speaker 1: His dad just laughed at him and surely thought he
- 34:23Speaker 1: was just making it up. Now, Tim, of course, insists
- 34:26Speaker 1: that the encounter really happened. As his wife says, Tim
- 34:31Speaker 1: is a skeptic of anything paranormal or unexplained. He has
- 34:35Speaker 1: to have proof to believe in these things. He swears
- 34:38Speaker 1: on his life that he saw this creature that absolutely
- 34:42Speaker 1: wasn't some kind of animal. This day, when we go
- 34:45Speaker 1: out to the church cemetery, I glance up at the
- 34:48Speaker 1: trees and wonder what exactly he saw that night many
- 34:51Speaker 1: years ago. We think it must have been some kind
- 34:54Speaker 1: of alien. There is really no other explanation. It was
- 34:58Speaker 1: something not of this. Yes, that is a single witness case,
- 35:02Speaker 1: and yes the witness was a young child. But I
- 35:05Speaker 1: personally find children to be excellent witnesses because they don't
- 35:09Speaker 1: overlay their experiences with beliefs or interpretations. They're just reporting
- 35:15Speaker 1: what they saw, and they have a great capacity for
- 35:18Speaker 1: soaking in knowledge and are really essentially great observers. What's
- 35:24Speaker 1: amazing to me is how profoundly this witness was affected
- 35:28Speaker 1: by his encounter. That's more the rule of the exception,
- 35:32Speaker 1: but I can only imagine what it must have been
- 35:34Speaker 1: like for this young boy to see what sounds like
- 35:37Speaker 1: a gray type et hiding in this tree. Really amazing. Now,
- 35:43Speaker 1: let's move to the next case, which I think is
- 35:46Speaker 1: probably my favorite in this compilation. It's always hard for
- 35:49Speaker 1: me to pick, but some of these do stand out
- 35:51Speaker 1: for me. Certainly, I call this one ET's visit hospital
- 35:57Speaker 1: for handicapped children. This is a really tough case which
- 36:01Speaker 1: took place on two separate dates actually July eighteenth and
- 36:06Speaker 1: October ninth, nineteen eighty in Passfield, England. There are a
- 36:11Speaker 1: number of cases where UFOs are seen hovering over hospitals,
- 36:15Speaker 1: but this one is so poignant, so touching, because this
- 36:18Speaker 1: is a hospital for children who have real challenges, and
- 36:22Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a connection here for a very
- 36:25Speaker 1: well verified multiple witness case involving what appears to be
- 36:29Speaker 1: two different types of humanoids. This case was investigated by
- 36:33Speaker 1: English researcher Omar Fowler and it first appeared in the
- 36:37Speaker 1: November December nineteen eighty issue of Pegasus, the publication for
- 36:41Speaker 1: Sygap or the Surrey Investigation Group on Aerial Phenomena. It
- 36:46Speaker 1: later appeared in the volume thirty, number six, nineteen eighty
- 36:50Speaker 1: five issue of the Flying Saucer Review. It took place
- 36:53Speaker 1: at the High Hurlands Hospital for mentally Handicapped Children, located
- 36:57Speaker 1: in Passfield, Hampshire in southern Dad. At the time, about
- 37:02Speaker 1: two dozen children were being cared for by about six
- 37:05Speaker 1: nurses in residence. The High Hurland's Hospital sits on about
- 37:09Speaker 1: eighty acres of rural farm country. Now, the first hint
- 37:14Speaker 1: of any strange activity occurred around eight pm on July eighteen,
- 37:19Speaker 1: nineteen eighty, when one nurse known only as Georgina heard
- 37:23Speaker 1: a humming noise coming from outside the building. As Georgina says,
- 37:28Speaker 1: we heard this funny noise and we all went outside
- 37:31Speaker 1: to see what it was. We saw a light and
- 37:34Speaker 1: we watched it for about ten minutes or a quarter
- 37:36Speaker 1: of an hour, and then Hazel remembered that she had
- 37:39Speaker 1: a camera in her room and went to fetch it
- 37:42Speaker 1: so that she could take a photograph of it. But
- 37:44Speaker 1: I came back indoors because I was frightened. It was
- 37:47Speaker 1: just like a big round ball of light, and it kept
- 37:50Speaker 1: flashing on and off. It seemed to be getting lower
- 37:53Speaker 1: and lower. We didn't actually see it land anywhere. It
- 37:57Speaker 1: just disappeared. Now. The nurse with the camera ran outside
- 38:00Speaker 1: time to snap two photographs, but when the film was developed,
- 38:04Speaker 1: the photos showed nothing unusual. Meanwhile, duty nurse Diane Edworthy
- 38:10Speaker 1: gives a slightly different description of the object, as she says,
- 38:15Speaker 1: the nurses who saw the light said it was saucer
- 38:17Speaker 1: shaped and came down to within thirty feet of the
- 38:20Speaker 1: ground in the vicinity of the orchard was in the
- 38:24Speaker 1: area for about a half an hour before it disappeared,
- 38:27Speaker 1: though we have been unable to trace anyone who says
- 38:30Speaker 1: she actually saw it vanish. Now, this sighting appeared to
- 38:33Speaker 1: be the end of the encounter. However, just four hours later,
- 38:38Speaker 1: nurse Diane Edworthy and another nurse Helen Monger, had a
- 38:43Speaker 1: second even stranger encounter, this time with a humanoid. As
- 38:48Speaker 1: Nurse Diane says, Helen Monger and I were on duty
- 38:53Speaker 1: that same night at a quarter past midnight when we
- 38:56Speaker 1: heard someone out at the back of the building. Then
- 39:00Speaker 1: Helen saw a figure go by the back door at
- 39:03Speaker 1: thirty five minutes past midnight. We decided to telephone the police,
- 39:07Speaker 1: and we're just doing so when I happened to look
- 39:10Speaker 1: up at the French windows. I saw a figure in
- 39:14Speaker 1: black at least six feet tall, looking in through the
- 39:17Speaker 1: window at us. He was completely in black and had
- 39:21Speaker 1: a huge helmet over his head. He seemed to have
- 39:24Speaker 1: no neck. We just saw him standing there. We could
- 39:28Speaker 1: not see his face, but he shone as though his
- 39:31Speaker 1: clothing was all leathery or was some fabric that glistened.
- 39:36Speaker 1: He seemed to be padded out. By the time we
- 39:39Speaker 1: had just gasped, he had stepped back into the darkness
- 39:42Speaker 1: and was gone now. Nurse Helen Monger confirms this. She
- 39:46Speaker 1: describes the same details, but added that the figure was
- 39:49Speaker 1: quote massive in size and appeared to be quote glowing. Now.
- 39:54Speaker 1: During the time the nurses saw the figure, the dogs
- 39:58Speaker 1: kept in the back room on the ground floor of
- 40:00Speaker 1: the hospital were going frantic. Just a few minutes later,
- 40:05Speaker 1: the phone rang. Nurse Diane answered it and turned out
- 40:08Speaker 1: to be from the nurses in the other quarters at
- 40:11Speaker 1: the other end of the orchard, about a half mile away,
- 40:14Speaker 1: and they said they heard strange noises outside and looking
- 40:18Speaker 1: out saw a prowler of some kind. Diane was amazed,
- 40:22Speaker 1: as this figure had somehow apparently traversed the half mile
- 40:26Speaker 1: distance in no more than three minutes, unless, of course,
- 40:30Speaker 1: there was more than one of them. Fifteen minutes later,
- 40:33Speaker 1: the police arrived with police dogs. They inspected the soft
- 40:37Speaker 1: ground where this figure had been seen, looking in the windows,
- 40:40Speaker 1: but they found no footprints, nor did the dogs detect anything.
- 40:45Speaker 1: Unable to find any evidence, the police concluded that the
- 40:49Speaker 1: nurses had imagined the entire incident. Now Interestingly, and perhaps significantly,
- 40:56Speaker 1: only three weeks earlier, one of the nurses said that
- 40:59Speaker 1: she saw another strange figure looking in the window and
- 41:03Speaker 1: she got a good look at it. That figure, she said,
- 41:07Speaker 1: was a man with shoulder length blonde hair. Now they
- 41:11Speaker 1: had assumed it was simply a peeping tom, but in
- 41:13Speaker 1: light of the new incident, perhaps both encounters were related
- 41:18Speaker 1: and events weren't over yet, because it was less than
- 41:22Speaker 1: three months later. On October ninth, nineteen eighty, the High
- 41:26Speaker 1: Hurlin's Hospital was visited by UFOs again. This time there
- 41:30Speaker 1: were only two witnesses, duty nurse Diane Edworthy and another
- 41:35Speaker 1: nurse by the name of Kathy. As Nurse Diane says,
- 41:40Speaker 1: at about midnight, Kathy, the girl who was on duty
- 41:43Speaker 1: with me, said she could hear a humming noise which
- 41:46Speaker 1: I didn't hear. Though I could not hear it, she
- 41:49Speaker 1: was really going mad about this noise that she said
- 41:53Speaker 1: she had in her head. I thought she was being
- 41:56Speaker 1: fanciful and did not take any notice, and I went
- 41:59Speaker 1: to see the children and upstairs, when I looked out
- 42:02Speaker 1: the window, I saw lights in the sky. They were
- 42:05Speaker 1: really bright, and that is what made me look. It
- 42:08Speaker 1: was such a clear night and the lights could be
- 42:10Speaker 1: easily seen. I then went downstairs to get Kathy to
- 42:14Speaker 1: come up and have a look because the light was
- 42:16Speaker 1: moving so slowly. This was at the back of the house.
- 42:21Speaker 1: We then went into the front of the house because
- 42:23Speaker 1: as we watched it, the light had disappeared round to
- 42:27Speaker 1: the front. Now at the front they saw that the
- 42:30Speaker 1: light had taken on the appearance of an abnormally bright star,
- 42:34Speaker 1: which was now changing colors. It changed from white to blue,
- 42:38Speaker 1: to blue, to red, to red, to green, to orange,
- 42:42Speaker 1: and then back to white. This took place over a
- 42:45Speaker 1: period of about forty five minutes, during which time the
- 42:48Speaker 1: two witnesses were taking breaks from watching it as they
- 42:51Speaker 1: had to check on their patients. But still this object
- 42:55Speaker 1: remained very low and apparently quite close to them. As
- 42:58Speaker 1: Diane says, we opened the main window so that we
- 43:02Speaker 1: could actually look at it, as there was a lot
- 43:04Speaker 1: of condensation on the window. It was at a few
- 43:07Speaker 1: hundred yards level with us. But we were looking from
- 43:10Speaker 1: the hospital, which was perched up very high on a hill.
- 43:13Speaker 1: Was like a white light on top. I couldn't see
- 43:16Speaker 1: the shape of the object that was moving, but underneath
- 43:19Speaker 1: it were flashing lights, reds and greens. Now at this point.
- 43:23Speaker 1: In addition to this unusual light, a solid craft emerged
- 43:27Speaker 1: from the light and descended close to the ground. And
- 43:30Speaker 1: this is what Diane is describing. As Diane says, that
- 43:34Speaker 1: light was still changing colors when we saw this craft
- 43:37Speaker 1: hovering right over the edge of the orchards, and it
- 43:40Speaker 1: remained there for about twenty minutes. It just stayed there.
- 43:44Speaker 1: It looked as if it was spinning because all the
- 43:46Speaker 1: lights were twinkling. They were all different colored lights all
- 43:50Speaker 1: at once. There was no sound whatsoever. Was so quiet.
- 43:55Speaker 1: There are horses out in the paddock at the side,
- 43:57Speaker 1: and there wasn't a sound. The dogs didn't bar nothing.
- 44:02Speaker 1: Now shortly later, the dogs did start howling and quote
- 44:06Speaker 1: went mad, and also the cats started acting up with
- 44:09Speaker 1: their hair bristling. The nurses tried to let the animals out,
- 44:13Speaker 1: but the animals refused to budge. But the most amazing
- 44:17Speaker 1: and unusual part of the encounter was about to happen.
- 44:21Speaker 1: As Diane says, we were looking after a little boy
- 44:24Speaker 1: that was very ill. He's mentally handicapped and he has
- 44:28Speaker 1: a tumor on the brain. We both had the opportunity
- 44:31Speaker 1: to watch that light because we had to sit with
- 44:33Speaker 1: the little boy who was so ill, now he was
- 44:36Speaker 1: going quite frantic. He started going really frantic at about
- 44:40Speaker 1: half past twelve, and he never settled down until half
- 44:43Speaker 1: past three, And at half past three the light disappeared
- 44:47Speaker 1: and then he went quiet, just like that. What an
- 44:51Speaker 1: amazing case. That is. Multiple witnesses, animal reactions. I was
- 44:55Speaker 1: particularly struck by the report of the sick child reacting
- 45:02Speaker 1: in some way to the presence of the UFO. Makes
- 45:06Speaker 1: me wonder if they were communicating with him in some way.
- 45:09Speaker 1: I wish there was a follow up with this patient.
- 45:12Speaker 1: Perhaps they cured him. Pure speculation, obviously, but sure would
- 45:17Speaker 1: be interesting to know what became of this child, given
- 45:20Speaker 1: that he was reacting clearly to the presence of this UFO.
- 45:24Speaker 1: But how cool is that that these etis are visiting
- 45:28Speaker 1: this hospital for mentally and physically handicapped children. To me,
- 45:33Speaker 1: that's really touching. All right, let's move to the next case.
- 45:38Speaker 1: Another really unusual case with some details I haven't heard before.
- 45:42Speaker 1: I call this one I had a talk with Gray's.
- 45:46Speaker 1: This one occurred on April twenty five, nineteen ninety seven.
- 45:50Speaker 1: It's actually more like a series of encounters. But this
- 45:54Speaker 1: occurred at Angel Fire a very small town in rural
- 45:58Speaker 1: New Mexico. And yeah, it's got this weird connection to
- 46:02Speaker 1: Native Americans that I found super fascinating. This case occurred
- 46:06Speaker 1: on April twenty five, nineteen ninety seven, in the small
- 46:09Speaker 1: town of angel Fire, New Mexico. This is a pretty
- 46:12Speaker 1: rural town. This case comes from a lady who provided
- 46:16Speaker 1: her first hand. I win his testimony to move on
- 46:19Speaker 1: just over twenty five years after her experience, and in
- 46:23Speaker 1: her report she writes, I never told anyone of this
- 46:27Speaker 1: until recently. There are times I still want to justify
- 46:31Speaker 1: or prove false what went on. I know it is
- 46:34Speaker 1: my truth. I finally feel like sharing it and connecting
- 46:37Speaker 1: with others who have had similar experiences. Thank you. Now,
- 46:41Speaker 1: this witness is anonymous, so I'll just call her VICKI.
- 46:45Speaker 1: In March of nineteen ninety seven, Vicky had the opportunity
- 46:48Speaker 1: to run a small elementary school as the man who
- 46:52Speaker 1: is currently running it, a Native American elder, and his wife,
- 46:56Speaker 1: a medicine woman, were leaving so that he could pursue
- 46:59Speaker 1: let and writing books. So Vicky took this opportunity. She
- 47:04Speaker 1: moved from Ohio to the Native Americans small mountain cabin
- 47:08Speaker 1: in this very rural area outside of Angel Fire. It
- 47:12Speaker 1: was a wonderful opportunity for her and she was very
- 47:15Speaker 1: excited about it. She made the three days long drive
- 47:19Speaker 1: and went to the cabin, and, as Vicky says, I
- 47:22Speaker 1: was greeted by him and his woman. I was to
- 47:25Speaker 1: live with them for three weeks while they prepared my
- 47:28Speaker 1: position taking over the school and make the transition. During
- 47:33Speaker 1: those three weeks, the elder and the medicine woman decided
- 47:37Speaker 1: that they needed to teach me a bit about UFOs
- 47:40Speaker 1: and extra terrestrials. I realized the elder was involved with
- 47:44Speaker 1: that area of life because I had gone to his
- 47:47Speaker 1: lectures and read his book. I learned that Native Americans
- 47:51Speaker 1: have this amazing respect for aliens and their ways. He
- 47:54Speaker 1: actually worked with certain groups in order to learn from
- 47:57Speaker 1: them and they from him and create a community. At night,
- 48:02Speaker 1: they would ask me to come outside and sit on
- 48:04Speaker 1: the picnic table so they could teach me the difference
- 48:07Speaker 1: between planes, jets, satellites, military and alien ships. It was
- 48:12Speaker 1: all about the shapes, movement and lighting. Was very interesting.
- 48:17Speaker 1: I was never afraid and always a believer, So the
- 48:20Speaker 1: three weeks passed quickly, and soon VICKI found herself alone
- 48:24Speaker 1: in this rural cabin, or so she thought. As Vicky says,
- 48:29Speaker 1: strange things began to happen. I would be standing in
- 48:32Speaker 1: the bathroom looking into the mirror with the door open,
- 48:35Speaker 1: and out of the corner of my eye in my
- 48:38Speaker 1: peripheral vision, I would see blurry, dark figures walking by,
- 48:42Speaker 1: or major flashes of light. It became a regular thing,
- 48:46Speaker 1: and it was bothering me. Was as if there were
- 48:48Speaker 1: others in the cabin with me, but I knew no
- 48:51Speaker 1: one was coming in. I mean, there were no neighbors
- 48:54Speaker 1: anywhere nearby, and Vicki had not invited anyone into the
- 48:58Speaker 1: cabin since she had moved in. And as time moved on,
- 49:02Speaker 1: the high strangeness began to escalate. As Vicki says, things
- 49:07Speaker 1: began getting stranger. When sleeping at night, I would get
- 49:11Speaker 1: that feeling like people were watching me. Quickly, I would
- 49:14Speaker 1: open my eyes and sit up, and there would be
- 49:17Speaker 1: three grays on three sides of my bed. I knew
- 49:19Speaker 1: what they were and that they were the grays. When
- 49:22Speaker 1: I put on the lights, they were gone, just like that, gone.
- 49:26Speaker 1: I began to sleep with the light on at all times,
- 49:29Speaker 1: blankets tucked up high on my neck and honestly would
- 49:33Speaker 1: try to keep myself awake as long as possible. Became
- 49:37Speaker 1: a real scary, horrible situation for me. There was no
- 49:40Speaker 1: one to talk to and no one I could tell.
- 49:43Speaker 1: They would think me nuts. So VICKI tried to convince
- 49:46Speaker 1: herself that it was not happening, but for the next
- 49:48Speaker 1: two weeks it kept happening, and she knew she had
- 49:52Speaker 1: to take action. As Vicky said, finally I had a
- 49:56Speaker 1: talk with the Grays, giving them permission to stay as
- 49:59Speaker 1: long as they did not hurt me. I knew they
- 50:02Speaker 1: were curious in wanting to learn things from me. It
- 50:05Speaker 1: got very intense, and I became a mess, emotional and desperate.
- 50:10Speaker 1: I did not know what to do, so with no
- 50:12Speaker 1: other recourse, Vicky finally called the medicine woman and told
- 50:16Speaker 1: her what was happening. The woman immediately understood and promised
- 50:20Speaker 1: to come over and help. She arrived shortly later and
- 50:23Speaker 1: explained that the Grays were not supposed to be coming.
- 50:27Speaker 1: She said that her husband, the Native American elder, worked
- 50:30Speaker 1: with the Grays regularly, but that he was supposed to
- 50:33Speaker 1: have had told the Grays to stop showing up, but
- 50:36Speaker 1: failed to do so, so together she and Vicki went
- 50:41Speaker 1: through a process of smudging the cabin and clearing it.
- 50:44Speaker 1: The medicine woman explained that it was up to Vicki
- 50:47Speaker 1: to take a stand, to lose her fear, quiet her mind,
- 50:51Speaker 1: and also to call upon spirits of light to assist
- 50:54Speaker 1: and protect her. So the Grays continued to show up,
- 50:57Speaker 1: but Vicki stood her ground and slowly the activity slowed down,
- 51:01Speaker 1: and as Vicky says, the last night they were there,
- 51:05Speaker 1: I was really struggling, and an angel appeared to me
- 51:08Speaker 1: and whispered in my ear, It's almost over. You are
- 51:12Speaker 1: almost through. It is almost done. Before the medicine woman left,
- 51:17Speaker 1: she told Vicky that the Grays were actually planning on
- 51:20Speaker 1: taking her, and this scared Vicky bad enough that she
- 51:23Speaker 1: decided to just completely move to a new residence in Taos,
- 51:27Speaker 1: New Mexico, and as she said, in time, it was
- 51:31Speaker 1: as if they never came back. That case is so
- 51:35Speaker 1: interesting to me. You know, I've noticed a pattern as
- 51:37Speaker 1: to who's having contact and why. And we see a
- 51:40Speaker 1: lot of people who are doing good work for humanity
- 51:43Speaker 1: in some capacity. So we see doctors and nurses, teachers, musicians,
- 51:50Speaker 1: social workers, environmentalists, people who are doing good work in
- 51:54Speaker 1: some way. That's true in this case and in a
- 51:57Speaker 1: few of the others in this compilation. I found that
- 52:00Speaker 1: really fascinating. Also interesting to me is that the Native
- 52:05Speaker 1: American featured in this story apparently had a very close
- 52:08Speaker 1: relationship with these grays and was working with them. I've
- 52:13Speaker 1: talked to a number of the Native Americans over the years,
- 52:16Speaker 1: and they've had these really incredible relationships with etes, so
- 52:21Speaker 1: that's fascinating to me. Also really interesting is that this
- 52:26Speaker 1: lady had repeated encounters and was able to communicate with
- 52:29Speaker 1: the ets and essentially ended her encounters, which she found frightening,
- 52:33Speaker 1: which I could certainly understand. But all around, a lot
- 52:37Speaker 1: to unpack with that case. All right, now, let's move
- 52:41Speaker 1: to the next one. This one is a pretty shortcase
- 52:45Speaker 1: comparatively speaking, but still interesting. I call this one a
- 52:49Speaker 1: strange feeling. This one occurred one evening in November nineteen
- 52:53Speaker 1: ninety eight in the small town of Galax, Virginia. It
- 52:57Speaker 1: is a single witness case, but there are humanoids, and
- 53:01Speaker 1: where they are humanoids, it's almost always fascinating. This last
- 53:05Speaker 1: and final case was reported to Moufon headquarters after the
- 53:09Speaker 1: witness mailed a letter there explaining his encounter, and the
- 53:13Speaker 1: Mouffon Field investigator interviewed the witness regarding this sighting that
- 53:16Speaker 1: he had of a UFO with human looking occupants inside it.
- 53:22Speaker 1: The witness is anonymous, so I'll call him Anthony. On
- 53:26Speaker 1: the night of November twenty, nineteen ninety eight, after having
- 53:30Speaker 1: gone hunting, Anthony's mother brought him to a friend's house
- 53:34Speaker 1: in the Old Town district of Galax, Virginia. She was
- 53:38Speaker 1: inside the house, but Anthony stayed out on the driveway
- 53:41Speaker 1: and was looking at the moon and the sky. The
- 53:44Speaker 1: moon was in full phase, the sky was perfectly clear,
- 53:48Speaker 1: and as he stood there, Anthony started to get a
- 53:50Speaker 1: really strange feeling. As he says, I had a strange
- 53:54Speaker 1: feeling that something was either wrong or unbalanced. I'm intuitive
- 53:58Speaker 1: in that way. I felt an urge to look to
- 54:01Speaker 1: my right, so I did. I saw nothing at ground level,
- 54:05Speaker 1: so I looked up. It was then that I saw
- 54:07Speaker 1: the long, tangerine yellow colored object moving slowly and silently
- 54:13Speaker 1: across the night sky in my direction. Was flying at
- 54:17Speaker 1: low altitude, low enough that I barely raised my head
- 54:20Speaker 1: to see it broadside. So he had a pair of
- 54:23Speaker 1: binoculars on him and quickly used them to view the object,
- 54:27Speaker 1: but was unable to capture them in the viewscreen, so
- 54:30Speaker 1: instead he grabbed his rifle and looked at this object
- 54:33Speaker 1: through the rifle scope, and he could see it. And
- 54:36Speaker 1: he now saw that the craft was magnified enough to
- 54:40Speaker 1: be able to see a window on one side of
- 54:42Speaker 1: the craft, and through the window he saw at least
- 54:45Speaker 1: two human looking figures. As he says, through my scope,
- 54:50Speaker 1: I made out a couple of figures inside a well
- 54:53Speaker 1: lit craft. I saw a human looking pilot with light
- 54:57Speaker 1: skin with light tan coloration. His hair was blondish in color,
- 55:01Speaker 1: and just below the shoulders, the background light was white
- 55:06Speaker 1: like a sterile clean room. I saw one other human
- 55:10Speaker 1: looking being inside the craft. I saw them for a
- 55:12Speaker 1: few seconds. The being walked away from the pilot towards
- 55:16Speaker 1: the rear of the craft. I didn't see the second
- 55:19Speaker 1: being anymore during the encounter. So Anthony studied the craft
- 55:24Speaker 1: for normal airplane navigation lights, but saw none. The entire
- 55:29Speaker 1: craft glowed with a tangerine yellow, brighter on the bottom
- 55:32Speaker 1: and slightly darker on top. He listened very hard to
- 55:36Speaker 1: hear if it was making any noise, but he couldn't
- 55:38Speaker 1: hear anything. He then lowered his scope to watch the
- 55:42Speaker 1: object with his naked eyes, and as he watched, it
- 55:45Speaker 1: passed directly in front of the full moon. But weirdly,
- 55:49Speaker 1: when the craft reached about halfway across the face of
- 55:52Speaker 1: the moon, it vanished from view. It didn't appear to
- 55:56Speaker 1: move away, it was just gone. The Winds continued to
- 55:59Speaker 1: search the sky with both binoculars and his rifle scope
- 56:03Speaker 1: and of course his naked eyes, but he couldn't find anything. Nevertheless,
- 56:08Speaker 1: he is convinced that he saw a genuine UFO, as
- 56:12Speaker 1: he says, this was my first ever encounter with a UFO,
- 56:16Speaker 1: and I'll always remember it. I think you'll agree that's
- 56:19Speaker 1: a pretty interesting case. I liked that the witness was
- 56:23Speaker 1: able to view this craft close up using the scope
- 56:28Speaker 1: in his rifle, so he got a good look at it.
- 56:30Speaker 1: We can't say that this person misperceived this humanoid because
- 56:34Speaker 1: he saw it and described it very clearly. Initially I
- 56:38Speaker 1: wondered if this might be a human piloted reverse engineered craft.
- 56:43Speaker 1: But then he describes this thing moving in front of
- 56:45Speaker 1: the moon and just disappearing. I don't know that we
- 56:49Speaker 1: have the ability to do that, but certainly we do
- 56:51Speaker 1: see that with the ets. Either way, it's another case
- 56:56Speaker 1: adding to the huge catalog of humanoid encounters. It's not
- 57:01Speaker 1: just ten or one hundred or one thousand or ten thousand.
- 57:03Speaker 1: We're approaching hundreds of thousands, and I'm guessing that's more
- 57:08Speaker 1: accurately in the millions, given that, as any UFO researcher
- 57:12Speaker 1: will tell you, most people don't report their encounters, particularly
- 57:17Speaker 1: if it involves a humanoid or a very close encounter
- 57:21Speaker 1: such as an onboard experience. But again, we're seeing a
- 57:25Speaker 1: huge variety of ets. I love it when these cases
- 57:28Speaker 1: have some sort of communication with the witness. That's pretty rare,
- 57:33Speaker 1: much more common, of course with on board experiences, which
- 57:35Speaker 1: are my absolute favorite. I'll be doing more episodes about that,
- 57:39Speaker 1: don't you worry. But yeah, love these humanoid cases. Always
- 57:43Speaker 1: fascinating and always something to teach us. So thank you again, guys.
- 57:48Speaker 1: I truly appreciate you all watching. It means a lot
- 57:52Speaker 1: to me. I think the subject is so important and
- 57:54Speaker 1: that we all deserve to know the truth about what's
- 57:57Speaker 1: going on. So that's it for today. Once again, it's
- 58:02Speaker 1: up to you to keep searching for the truth, keep
- 58:05Speaker 1: asking those hard questions, and please keep having fun, cause
- 58:10Speaker 1: that's why we're here. See you next time, by for now.