Latest / Podcasts By Donna Jodhan / Remarkable World Commentary Episode #91: Ask Advocate Donna
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- 0:12Podcast Commentator: Greetings, Donna J. Jodhan, LLB, ACSP and MBA invites you to listen to
- 0:20her biweekly podcast, Remarkable World Commentary.
- 0:24Here, Donna shares some of her innermost thoughts,
- 0:27insights, perspectives, and more with her listeners.
- 0:31Donna focuses on topics that directly affect the future of kids,
- 0:35especially kids with disabilities.
- 0:38Donna is a blind advocate, author, sight loss coach,
- 0:42dinner mystery producer, writer, entrepreneur,
- 0:45law graduate, and podcast commentator.
- 0:49She has decades of lived experiences, knowledge,
- 0:53skills, and expertise in access, technology and information.
- 0:58As someone who has been internationally recognized for her work and roles,
- 1:02she just wants to make things better than possible.
- 1:07Donna J. Jodhan, LLB, ACSP, MBA: Hello, I'm Donna J. Jodhan, your host for my solo solo podcast of Ask
- 1:17Donna or Ask Advocate Donna.
- 1:20For the month of May. This is my second solo podcast for this month.
- 1:27Ask advocate Donna, and I'm happy to be here with you and want to start off with one of my
- 1:35favorite quotes. Speak in such a way that others love to listen to you.
- 1:46Listen in such a way that others love to speak to you.
- 1:53This is really one of my favorite quotes.
- 1:58I Want to start off with my word game.
- 2:02I want to thank those of you who have commented on my word game and on my Ask
- 2:09Advocate Donna, monthly episodes or monthly podcasts.
- 2:14Thank you very much. And don't forget to contact me at Donna
- 2:21jordan@gmail.com. That's bonnajodhan@gmail.com.
- 2:32Okay, so let's start off with our word game.
- 2:38And most of the time, or a lot of the time, advocates are faced
- 2:43with these two alternatives to be polite or to be impolite.
- 2:50What does this all mean?
- 2:53Well, most of the time I choose the polite alternative.
- 2:58But sometimes I'm awfully tempted to use the impolite alternative,
- 3:04and I will tell you that this does not, most of the time,
- 3:08does not bring you brownie points for light is when you know that something is right or
- 3:16something may not be right, but on the.
- 3:18On the whole, for light could be.
- 3:21When something is not absolutely correct when being spoken by someone else,
- 3:29but you're too polite to say this to them.
- 3:33Instead, you choose the polite route.
- 3:38Sometimes when someone says something to you,
- 3:43you can't help yourself because you know how wrong it is,
- 3:46or incorrect or inappropriate it is.
- 3:49So what you do is you become impolite.
- 3:54And I would say, let's choose the polite route as opposed to the impolite route,
- 4:02because very often the polite route keeps you in the minds of those around you.
- 4:10The impolite route. Sure, it does the same, but for where is the polite
- 4:15route? Keeps you in the mind of others in a positive manner.
- 4:21The impolite route does not.
- 4:27My next pair of words for your consideration today is proactive versus inactive.
- 4:36And very often in the field of advocacy, we need to consider if we want to be
- 4:42proactive and that means take the bull by the horns and run with it.
- 4:48Become the one who leads by example.
- 4:54An inactive means that you do nothing.
- 4:56You just depend on others to push you along, or you depend on others to develop the
- 5:02solutions or to develop the suggestions.
- 5:05And all you do is just to follow.
- 5:09So proactive means to lead.
- 5:12Inactive means to follow.
- 5:15And in the world of an advocate, we need to decide which best suits us.
- 5:22Becoming a leader has its heartaches, becoming its leader.
- 5:25A leader has its joys and it has its fulfillment.
- 5:30But it doesn't come easy.
- 5:33It comes at a very high cost because you put yourself out there.
- 5:40So, you know, whenever criticisms are made or whenever the going gets tough,
- 5:45the tough get going. Inactive means and it's not always viewed as being negative,
- 5:52but most times I think it is because you're not taking the initiative,
- 5:57you're simply sitting back and allowing others to do the work.
- 6:02But it's our choice. Always proactive or inactive.
- 6:09Okay, now I want to share my stories with you for this month.
- 6:16I have three stories to share with you and the title to the first story.
- 6:20And it all has to do with advocacy.
- 6:25It has to do with a cell phone store that robbed a lady with a disability.
- 6:36Okay, what happened here is that the lady went into the cell phone store in order to
- 6:45purchase a new cell phone.
- 6:49The customer rep or customer agent dealing with her,
- 6:53know darn well that she was a person with a disability.
- 6:58But instead of advising this lady to choose the best cell phone that suited her needs
- 7:04slash requirements, they deliberately took the path to mislead this lady.
- 7:13Okay. So this was lady.
- 7:17Her name was Emma. Emma went into a cell phone store in her neighborhood.
- 7:24She wanted to buy the most recent or most recognized cell phone.
- 7:31The most modern, but the most.
- 7:36Oh, gosh. I'm using losing my words here.
- 7:39But she wanted to buy the latest cell phone, and so she approached the agent at the desk,
- 7:46told them her story, told them what she was looking for,
- 7:51And he took her information, pretended to be nice to her,
- 7:55smiled with her, told her that he would, you know,
- 7:59choose the best cell phone for her.
- 8:03But what he did, in essence, was chose the best cell phone that the store
- 8:10had to offer, never really paying attention to what Emma wanted.
- 8:16So what did Emma do? Well, Emma went off when she went home,
- 8:23and her husband told her that she.
- 8:27He felt that she had been misled.
- 8:30Emma went straight to the head office of this cell phone store and lost her complaint.
- 8:40At first she was listened to, but then it appeared that the head office was
- 8:47not really going to do anything.
- 8:50So Emma decided to be a bit bold and she went off.
- 8:56Before she did this, she told them that she would be going to Facebook and pleading her
- 9:01case, and she would be going to other social media outlets and reporting the incident.
- 9:10Her husband went back and took photos of the store and of the same agent that was in the
- 9:18store that had dealt with Emma.
- 9:23Okay, so what does this all mean?
- 9:28What is advocacy all about?
- 9:32Advocacy is when one really believes that one has to advocate for something that has not
- 9:39been dealt with appropriately and properly.
- 9:42And this is what Emma did.
- 9:45How to get involved with advocacy.
- 9:49You get involved with advocacy by enlisting the help and support of other people,
- 9:54and Emma enlisted the support of her husband,
- 9:58and later on, she enlisted the support of her children and their friends,
- 10:02and they all put together an action plan for Emma first to go to the head office
- 10:12and then to put this thing on social media.
- 10:17When does one get involved in advocacy?
- 10:21One gets involved in advocacy.
- 10:23When again, if there is a need.
- 10:26And why does one get involved in advocacy?
- 10:30It's all about trying to right a wrong, or bringing what has happened to the notice
- 10:38of a wider circle of readers and listeners?
- 10:47Okay, let's go to my second story of the day.
- 10:52All right. This is all about a bakery that refused to serve an autistic kid.
- 11:02And this was submitted to us by a very distraught mother.
- 11:07Her name was Beth, and her son's name was Brent.
- 11:12She had sent Brent with the with a list of what she wanted from the bakery.
- 11:21And with the appropriate cash that was needed to purchase what she wanted.
- 11:28Because Beth had been a regular customer at this bakery.
- 11:34So Brent came into the bakery.
- 11:39They knew who he was because he often, you know,
- 11:43went to the bakery with his mom.
- 11:45But because today he was on his own, they refused,
- 11:50downright refused to serve him, saying that,
- 11:54you know, they didn't want to serve him because he didn't know what he was saying or
- 12:00doing. Despite written instructions given to him by his mum.
- 12:05And he had shown it to the cashier and to the attendants for a better word at the bakery
- 12:14counter. But they refused, downright refused.
- 12:18But first, poor Brent did not know what to do.
- 12:22But then, when he realized that no one was going to help him or serve him,
- 12:27he ran back home and told his mum and his mum went with him to the bakery and confronted
- 12:38the cashier and the attendant and asked them why did they not serve his or her son,
- 12:47despite the fact that she had given him written instructions as to what she wanted.
- 12:55Of course, they did not come out right and say,
- 12:58oh, because your son is autistic.
- 13:01No, they would never do that.
- 13:03So. What did she do? She did something a little bit different.
- 13:10She went off and she started to attract the attention of those in the bakery,
- 13:19telling them what had happened.
- 13:22Some of them listened attentively.
- 13:24Some of them did more than being attentive in that they saw what the bakery had done to
- 13:32Brent, and so she decided to chat with them and decided to tell them her side of the
- 13:38story. It wasn't easy.
- 13:41It was very painful for Beth, but she decided to persevere.
- 13:50And I think after an hour or two, according to her account to us,
- 13:54she did start to get somewhere with this bakery.
- 14:00And she reasoned with them.
- 14:02She used calm, a calm composure to deal with them,
- 14:08and it worked. So I ask you the question, what is advocacy all about?
- 14:15In this case, advocacy is standing up for your rights when you think you have been
- 14:21wronged. And in this case, Beth honestly felt that Brent,
- 14:26her son, her autistic son, was wronged, took a lot out of her to do it.
- 14:33But those around her, those who decided to support her,
- 14:37were very, very true and very, you know, Determined to see justice being
- 14:45done here. The bakery listened.
- 14:49The bakery admitted that they were wrong, which not many people would do,
- 14:53but they did. So this is what advocacy is all about.
- 14:59When you decide to stand up for something you feel has not been,
- 15:05you know, the right thing that has been done.
- 15:09How do you get involved in it?
- 15:11By enlisting the help of others, which is what Beth did with those around her
- 15:16in the bakery. How do you do it again?
- 15:22That's what you do. You enlist the help of others.
- 15:25So you have your what?
- 15:27You have your how you have your win.
- 15:29And when is when you think something needs to be addressed.
- 15:35Why my advocacy? Again, they're all similar in reasoning.
- 15:41But why you got involved is because you want something to be right in.
- 15:46Okay. So this is what happened with Beth and her autistic son Brett,
- 15:53and the bakery in their neighborhood.
- 15:59And the third story for this month is this.
- 16:06We have a babysitter who refused to help the little toddler because the toddler was blind.
- 16:15Now, this was the first time that this particular babysitter was coming in to do
- 16:22some babysitting for the parents of this child who was blind,
- 16:29and his two siblings who were sighted, the babysitter put the sighted
- 16:39children to bed. But when it came to the undecided one,
- 16:46okay, the babysitter said or refused to help.
- 16:50And despite, you know appeals from the two sighted siblings,
- 16:59she refused to help the sibling who was blind.
- 17:03She said she was not being paid to help anyone like this.
- 17:10Now the two sighted siblings were the older ones,
- 17:14one was ten and one was eight.
- 17:18And the babysitter? Sorry.
- 17:20The. Sibling who was blind or the child who was blind was three years old.
- 17:28So you had a ten year old, an eight year old and a three year old?
- 17:33Well, what did these two older ones do?
- 17:36They kept saying to her, you have to help or sister get or brother.
- 17:41Sorry. Get into bed. She kept refusing.
- 17:45So finally the older sibling decided to call their parents and tell their parents what was
- 17:51going on. This is advocacy in its truest form,
- 17:56from a young person, a young so-called advocate who probably,
- 18:02you know, would not think that they were being an advocate,
- 18:05but they just felt that their youngest sibling needed help.
- 18:10So, you know, it had to be given.
- 18:14Parents rushed home and confronted the babysitter,
- 18:18and the babysitter said the same thing.
- 18:21She was not being paid to help someone who she felt could help themselves.
- 18:29So they had a chat, a very interesting chat, and at the end of it all the babysitter left
- 18:37And the parents did not pay the babysitter because they said that they had told the
- 18:42babysitter beforehand that that there was a child with a vision impairment,
- 18:50but the babysitter refused.
- 18:53She left. She was not paid.
- 18:56She went home and she told her parents.
- 18:59So now we have a confrontation between the parents of the child who has a vision
- 19:05impairment, and the parents who had a babysitting age child who refused to
- 19:15help a blind person or child that they were supposed to babysit.
- 19:22Well, a few days later, the parents all got together.
- 19:26Along with this, the children of the parents who had the vision impaired child and the
- 19:36parents of the babysitter.
- 19:39Thank goodness this was a reasonable sit down chat and the child of or the babysitter was
- 19:48spoken to by her parents and told that it did not matter what it was,
- 19:56but she should have helped the kid or the child with the vision impairment.
- 20:04It all worked out, thank goodness.
- 20:08So what is advocacy in this case?
- 20:14Advocacy is when everybody got together to hash out an incident that took place.
- 20:21Why was it necessary? Because one set of parents wanted the other set of parents to
- 20:29know that this was not right and why it was not right.
- 20:33How did advocacy take place when they all got together.
- 20:38And when this advocacy take place, it takes place when something needs to be
- 20:44addressed. Okay, those are my stories for this month for the Ask Advocate Donna feature
- 20:53for the month of May. Thank you very much, everyone for tuning in.
- 20:58Please, if you have any stories to share, send them to me at Donna jordan@gmail.com.
- 21:06That's donnajodhan@gmail.com.
- 21:13Take care everybody, and I will see you next month.
- 21:19Podcast Commentator: Donna wants to hear from you and invites you to write to her at Donna jordan@gmail.com.
- 21:25Until next time.