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Patriots Unfiltered 8/16: Joint Practice with Panthers Live Show · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be
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  Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Live from
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  Speaker 1: joint practices with the Carolina Panthers, this is Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like this is the real start to training camp.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of been the pastest prologue. Now
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  Speaker 1: the non padded practices, I mean, what's the final count
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  Speaker 1: of padded practices we've actually seen? Paul like three, this
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  Speaker 1: is seven. Three is like seventh padded practice, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but a couple of those were kind of light. So
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's finally chanced to see this against
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  Speaker 1: another another team and other defense, some other players that
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe aren't quite sure what the Patriots about
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  Speaker 1: to throw at them. So I'd just love to see
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  Speaker 1: them open up some holes in the run game once
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  Speaker 1: they get to that point, and see you know, some
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  Speaker 1: of the timing stuff with the offensive line, you know,
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  Speaker 1: getting down in the run game. I think that's important.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't see much of it in the preseason game.
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  Speaker 1: I think the passing game will be there, but for me,
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to see some some lanes open up and
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  Speaker 1: see some of the running backs have some big carries today.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with Mike. It's like the official she'll start
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  Speaker 1: a training camp to me, because you like, you look
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  Speaker 1: around and you know, the stands are packed, the hill
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  Speaker 1: is packed. This is like, you know, it's almost like
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  Speaker 1: they were saying, well, we'll wait till Carolina gets here
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  Speaker 1: and then we'll get serious about coming to watch and
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  Speaker 1: see what we got this year. And I also agree
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  Speaker 1: with Mike. It's an opportunity to sort of see what
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  Speaker 1: the progress is to this point. You know, we've had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of talk about the offensive, you know, struggles
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  Speaker 1: and as they transition to some new things. So this
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  Speaker 1: is an opportunity to go against another team. And I
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  Speaker 1: thought all the coaches yesterday that spoke the assistants as
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  Speaker 1: well as Bill Belichick talked about just the importance of
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  Speaker 1: seeing someone different and you know, maybe someone that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have the same tendencies that you do, Differences in the
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  Speaker 1: way they approach things, route, running past, rushing techniques and whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: It's a it's a much better test. It's it's not
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  Speaker 1: the be all end all. You know, let's not make
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  Speaker 1: this out to be you know, regular season intensity. There
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  Speaker 1: there'll be no tackling to the ground Uh, it won't
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  Speaker 1: be all that much more physical than with practices, but
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  Speaker 1: it will be more intense in terms of competition. So
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  Speaker 1: a little programming note. We will have video until around
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  Speaker 1: ten thirty, at which point all cameras have to be
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  Speaker 1: off per team rules, but we'll still be with you
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  Speaker 1: throughout practice audio, so you'll be able to listen once
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  Speaker 1: the cameras go out, So just you know, in case
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  Speaker 1: you're wondering, oh, why did the cameras go out at
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  Speaker 1: ten thirty. That's why it's team rules. But we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be covering it live all the way until the end
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  Speaker 1: of practice. I hear it's going to be fairly long,
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  Speaker 1: maybe till around noon, maybe twelve fifteen. So we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be there for every play, every every good play, every
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  Speaker 1: bad play, and we'll tell you what's going on. So
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  Speaker 1: up to this point with the Patriots, you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: been a lot of talk about this change in the offense.
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  Speaker 1: I was out yesterday watching a little bit. I kind
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  Speaker 1: of saw them running back to the way they had been.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a chance that they might scrap this experiment
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  Speaker 1: and just go back to what we've been used to
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  Speaker 1: seeing out of the offense? I mean, how would we tell,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's possibly. I mean, but yesterday it seemed like,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I don't want to make it out
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  Speaker 1: to be anything more, it's just it seemed like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they were all on the same page, at least as
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  Speaker 1: far as the intensity yesterday's practice. They weren't pads. It
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  Speaker 1: was kind of three quarter speed. But compared to what
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  Speaker 1: we've seen through the rest of the summer, I found
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  Speaker 1: it a little bit encouraging that it just like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: that kind of looked like, you know, some of the
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  Speaker 1: stuff we saw last year. It certainly seems like they're
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  Speaker 1: expanding upon the playbook. We saw some new you know,
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  Speaker 1: twists and wrinkles starting to come in yesterday, So certainly
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  Speaker 1: they can't kept things under wrap against the against the
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  Speaker 1: Giants the other night. So we'll see. We'll see what
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  Speaker 1: they do today. I think it'll be telling what do
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  Speaker 1: they want to work on against another opponent live. I
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  Speaker 1: think that'll that'll shed some insight into into what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Are they still trying to do the outside zone and
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  Speaker 1: is that's still going to be a basis for their
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  Speaker 1: offense or you know, they are they beyond that and
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  Speaker 1: they're building further. Yeah, I mean that's they definitely ran
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  Speaker 1: old stuff against the Giants. Yeah, and the game, it
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of basic things that we've seen, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know many times over the years. We'll see what
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  Speaker 1: they end up doing once, you know, once we get
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  Speaker 1: started for good. But I don't know, didn't answer your
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  Speaker 1: specific question, Freddie, if you can just sort of scrap
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  Speaker 1: everything you were doing, Yeah, that to me seems like
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  Speaker 1: a waste of a lot of time. That's even worse. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a call and ask and we'll do our best. Um,
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  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of people down there, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of zebras, yeah you got you got referees, um,
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  Speaker 1: as well as coaches. And then not to mention about
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  Speaker 1: ninety guys on both teams, so one hundred and eighty
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  Speaker 1: players or so with everybody else, you've got two fields
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  Speaker 1: in front of us. Um, so there's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things going on, more than a three ring circus. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's uh so we're gonna have to really, you know,
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  Speaker 1: uh keep our wits about us to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: we're catching everything that's happening. Tamara Brown will be joining
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  Speaker 1: us a little later where she Yeah, I know you
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  Speaker 1: were down there warming up the crowd. Yeah, she's well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean the frenzy, I know, I just yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's she's got a cute Bill. So she's down on
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  Speaker 1: the field just waiting for Bill Belichick to start his
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  Speaker 1: press conference. He's about fifteen minutes late now, so I
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  Speaker 1: guess that might maybe feeding feed into going a little
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  Speaker 1: bit longer, but waiting for Bill's press conference to start
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  Speaker 1: before everything gets kicked off. But I did hear while
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  Speaker 1: I was down there, the Patriots will be on the
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  Speaker 1: field closest to us. The Panthers will be on the
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  Speaker 1: field closest to the stands for I think about the
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  Speaker 1: first half hour or so going through their own warm
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  Speaker 1: up drills and all that before they start to come together.
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  Speaker 1: I assume that will be someone on ones on both fields.
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  Speaker 1: As you said, Fred, it's it's so much to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Do you watch the offensive defensive line battles? Do you
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  Speaker 1: watch the one on ones? Do you watch guys trying
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  Speaker 1: to cover Dj Moore and Christian McCaffrey. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 1: we'll get a lot going on, right, We'll get four
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  Speaker 1: corners action. There'll be one on ones in each of
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  Speaker 1: the four corners of the fields. Yeah, and it is
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot to or to keep track up. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, stuff will will stick out, and you know
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  Speaker 1: a play will catch our eye. We'll talk about individuals,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's what this is best for is
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  Speaker 1: you get a chance to sort of see some individual
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  Speaker 1: work at first, and then you see how the team does.
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  Speaker 1: You know, throughout the summer we've been talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some of the questions that the Patriots have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: going into this season. The Panthers have their own questions,
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  Speaker 1: and the biggest one is who's going to be quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: They've had Sam Darnald, they bring in Baker Mayfield. My
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  Speaker 1: assumption is you don't bring in Baker Baker Mayfield unless
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  Speaker 1: you attend for him to be the starter. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so far they haven't made that declaration. I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: a it's a I think Matt Rule's in a tough
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  Speaker 1: spot here in year three. And you know, you saw
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  Speaker 1: what they gave up last year for Donald that didn't
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  Speaker 1: work out too well. They you know, bring in Baker
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  Speaker 1: Mayfield way way late in the process now to try
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  Speaker 1: to you know, see if healthy he can you know,
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  Speaker 1: get back to you know, what he looked like in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty and some of those games when you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean last year it was just it seemed like
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  Speaker 1: he started playing injured and it just got worse from there. So, um,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of talent on the Carolina roster, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're in a tough spot in terms of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: having to go against Tom Brady and the Bucks, and
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  Speaker 1: you know that's that's certainly don't have the quarterback settled too.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's just tough McCaffrey. You've built your
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  Speaker 1: team around him, he's you know, been injured and it's
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  Speaker 1: hard to depend on him. But um, you know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of good pieces though, and that's part of the
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  Speaker 1: fun I think of today is getting to see some
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  Speaker 1: of these guys, especially you know, DJ Moore. I just
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  Speaker 1: think he's a you know, talk about a great receiver
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  Speaker 1: and you know, dynamic guy. He certainly brings that to
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers offense. I like to see some of those
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  Speaker 1: guys in the defense in front too, you know from
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  Speaker 1: last year. Uh you know they have you know, decent
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  Speaker 1: combination you know, uh, what's it, uh gross matos you
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  Speaker 1: know off the edge two when they have a decent
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  Speaker 1: amount of edge guys, and then the combination of the
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  Speaker 1: big guys like you mentioned inside, you know that the
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  Speaker 1: power kind of rushers. So that'd be good to watch
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line, the Patriots offensive line go against what
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  Speaker 1: I think is a pretty good front. I think Col Strange,
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  Speaker 1: Derek Brown, Matt Ionidis like those guys, big interior guys
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  Speaker 1: that you know, kind of represent the kind of big players,
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  Speaker 1: NFL power that he's gonna have to deal with there
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  Speaker 1: at the guard spot. Some of the Panthers players are
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  Speaker 1: starting to trickle on. They don't have their pads on yet,
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  Speaker 1: just kind of warming up. I got a feeling it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a very slow start to this. I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: word that it's gonna arrivals as we call them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: players coming onto the field gonna happen a little later
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  Speaker 1: than it usually does. Usually that starts around nine fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: But so far, I don't see any Patriots and it's
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  Speaker 1: nine twenty four. I think Jeremiah Farms was on the field,
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  Speaker 1: but that's that's the only one I saw set in
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  Speaker 1: a tone. He's the guy that gets off the bus first,
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  Speaker 1: you know, let them know what they're in for today.
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  Speaker 1: You know, even Bill, he was supposed to start his
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  Speaker 1: press commerence at nine ten. He has him started yet. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know that's funny like that you mentioned that. Like
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  Speaker 1: I was listening to someone about two weeks ago in
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  Speaker 1: the radio talk about how Pete Carrold used to always
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  Speaker 1: come to the press conference. You knew he was gonna
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  Speaker 1: be You knew he was in trouble because you know,
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  Speaker 1: he would show up for nine o'clock press conference at
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  Speaker 1: like nine thirty, and you know, like you know Bill Belichick.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Bill Belichick is late for press conferences
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  Speaker 1: all the time, right because he gets his work done right,
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  Speaker 1: He's you know, things come up right. Yeah, And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, you know, Bill Belichick would never be late
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  Speaker 1: for a press comments. I was like, you've obviously never
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  Speaker 1: covered one. I hate to say it, but you know
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  Speaker 1: it's part of his job to talk to the media,
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  Speaker 1: but there are more important things that he's doing, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. But I remember Pete when he
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  Speaker 1: was with the Patriots on game day, I mean on
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  Speaker 1: road trips, you know, on Saturday, we'd be sitting on
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  Speaker 1: the bus and you know, they come out with the itinerary, Paul,
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  Speaker 1: and it's always like, you know, if you're leaving at
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  Speaker 1: ten thirty, you'll leave at ten thirty, and if you're
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  Speaker 1: not on the bus, we'd be like twenty minutes late.
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  Speaker 1: And because Pete was in a pickup basketball game and
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't finished yet. I'm serious, I'm not kidding. So
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  Speaker 1: that so that's different because Bill, you know, the travel itinerary,
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  Speaker 1: you're usually pretty close. Yeah, that's usually pretty close. With Belichick.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'd laughed at like, you'd never be late
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  Speaker 1: for a Belichick press comments if you wouldn't be able
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  Speaker 1: to get in. I'm like, really, yeah, no, myth, And
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  Speaker 1: that is a definite myth. That's not that is that
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  Speaker 1: is I've won six Super Bowl titles, so people are
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  Speaker 1: gonna think I do things a certain way. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: that's not true. Um, lots of fans here you mentioned Paul.
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  Speaker 1: The stands pretty full on the hill over there too.
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  Speaker 1: It's uh yeah, it's pretty packed in Hill's packed. People
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  Speaker 1: are still trickling in checking out the the food stands
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  Speaker 1: and uh it's a beautiful day perfect. J Prolo and
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  Speaker 1: his Sony Michelle shirt today. Oh yeah he's here. Watch out.
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  Speaker 1: Fred might try to kidnap him. Yeah, he knows talent
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  Speaker 1: when he sees it. Yeah, but like I said, it
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  Speaker 1: is just a shirt's struggling today too, a beauty player.
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  Speaker 1: It's a couple of years old, that shirt struggling. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe pop down on the pro shop. Huh it looks
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  Speaker 1: looks a little like Fred Kirsch's old John l Way shirt.
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  Speaker 1: So Baker Mayfield, he just moves right on. Baker Mayfield
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  Speaker 1: coming out on the field now. So he's the first
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  Speaker 1: notable player. Yeah. Him and Matt Correll, who was one
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  Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks coming out this year. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: we liked him. We like him, I like Mac. They
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  Speaker 1: kind of like them. I don't know how good he'll
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  Speaker 1: be as a pro, but I liked him as a
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  Speaker 1: college player. Yeah, sort of a gamer. What do you
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  Speaker 1: guys think of Mayfield? Is? Is he eventually gonna make
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  Speaker 1: it in this league as a you know, a fixture.
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  Speaker 1: I think he'll be a what he is like, sort
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  Speaker 1: of an inconsistent middle of the road quarterback. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he has the temperament. Yeah, I think he's got
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  Speaker 1: to be better than when he was last year, when
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  Speaker 1: he's too emotional and too sensitive. Yeah, he does do
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  Speaker 1: good commercials, which is very ironic. Good act to me?
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  Speaker 1: Is this got a kick around very emotionally sensitive nine
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  Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell. Yeah, let's starting to trickle in here a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, yeah, curious how much they you know,
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  Speaker 1: how much they let McCaffrey do too, I mean in
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  Speaker 1: White by the way today, how do you manage you know,
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  Speaker 1: how do you manage him? Such an important piece and
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  Speaker 1: a guy who's battled plenty of injuries over the last year.
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  Speaker 1: You take him number one in your fantasy draft? Us,
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  Speaker 1: I don't do fantasy Pam, he says in the background, saying, no,
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  Speaker 1: not worth the roll of the dice. Jonathan Taylor. Then okay,
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  Speaker 1: he says, yes, right then, and there you have it.
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  Speaker 1: What is the fantasy ten second block brought to you
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  Speaker 1: by latis right now? Is is McCaffrey is Now there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing going on with him as far as as far
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  Speaker 1: as I've seen, he seems like he's he's good to go.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, it's just that age old question or
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  Speaker 1: how do you manage guys in training camp with injury.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's an involving thing. And now showing practices
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  Speaker 1: three games, it's it's changed the dynamics a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: and I think a lot of teams are kind of
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  Speaker 1: reacting differently to it. So you know, now you're getting
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  Speaker 1: another kind of look at it. Last year was a
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  Speaker 1: little bit tainted, I think for the patriotsis with two
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks quarterback competition, you kind of wanted to see everybody.
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  Speaker 1: But I remember even last year trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: discern what they were doing. Cam would come on and
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  Speaker 1: take the first reps with the Ones and then it
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  Speaker 1: was like four straight drives of Matt Jones. So um.
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  Speaker 1: But I also heard from Mike Reas pregame pumping up
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  Speaker 1: the crowd, so it must be true that they're dividing
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  Speaker 1: up the reps for for Carolina. So it's um, it's
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  Speaker 1: more like you get a whole period instead of like
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  Speaker 1: four reps. Four reps there, They're the way they're starting
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  Speaker 1: to do it now is is Field will get like
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  Speaker 1: a full period and then Donald will get a full period.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see how that plays out. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: Bill mentioned, you know, the differences between having a joint
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  Speaker 1: practice with a coach you know and a coach you
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  Speaker 1: don't know, and in this case, it's one you don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And you wonder, like, you know, if Carolina has a
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  Speaker 1: certain way of doing practice that's different than the Patriots,
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  Speaker 1: who gets to do what or do they like do
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  Speaker 1: it evenly, you know, is they're compromise there, or you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers come in and it's like, well that's the
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  Speaker 1: way the Patriots do it, So we're at their place
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  Speaker 1: and we'll do it that way too. But I just
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  Speaker 1: wonder if we'll see anything different in terms of the
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  Speaker 1: structure of the practice, and we have seen well. I
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  Speaker 1: thought last year was interesting in Philadelphia because you remember
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  Speaker 1: Sirianni had really kind of pulled back on practices. They
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  Speaker 1: were only going for like an hour or something, and
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I think you saw a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: that influence when when the Patriots were down there, especially
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  Speaker 1: the Last Dame and the last day was almost like nothing,
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  Speaker 1: I mean not so I guess it's a you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a marriage of kind of philosophies, but ultimately you're
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  Speaker 1: going to get down to one on ones and teamwork,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, it's just a question on how long
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  Speaker 1: you go and kind of what the parameters are. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and completely speculating, Freddie, but based on your intel that
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  Speaker 1: this practice is going to be a little bit longer,
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering if it's going to be a similar kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing, you know, as we saw in Philly last summer,
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  Speaker 1: like where you know they went, they went a little
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: bit harder and longer in the first day and then
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: maybe pulled it back a little bit on the second day. Yeah. Yeah,
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: and raining the forecast tomorrow, you wonder how that might
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: affect what they're Yeah, let's get as much in today
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: as we can get sloppy tomorrow. And another programming no
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: tonight on Patriots dot com Live at six thirty will
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: be James White's retirement press conference, So obviously he'll be talking,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: but also I think coach Belichick will and Robert Kraft.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: So that's at six thirty tonight live on Patriots dot com.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: So you want to check that out. James White, you know,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: one of the one of the great people that have
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: been associated with this team. I bet you're gonna see
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of players at that too, just it seems
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: like six thirty that's usually kind of when their day
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: is ending. So I got a lot coaches, players are
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: gonna are gonna pop over to that too, you know.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Give some support to James White, who's meant a ton
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: to the organization over the last seven eight years. So
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: we'll be covering that in its entirety starting at six
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: thirty tonight. Let's get to some emails at web radio
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: at pagris dot com while we wait for this thing
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: to get going. Alfred Italy writes in Paul, he says,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: why is Fred closest to the camera? Give the people
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: what they want? Mister Paul Perillo, thanks as always. Oh
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: he's my right hand man, right more Paul less Andy.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: That was his motto for years. Mike, you don't get
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: They're not subjected though, though Kent so he must like
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: you because he used to. He used to rip Indio.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: It's not getting nuts, have no sense of humor, It's true.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Pedro from Connecticut writes in the days finally arrived, we
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: have joint practice day one. Is there anything you guys
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: can add about what we should look out for in
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: regards to the defensive backfield with Juan Williams out, is
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: there someone who will step up or make the team. Yeah,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure Jowan Williams was going to make the team.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I think he was very much on the bubble. Yeah. Um,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: you know, a matter of fact, that wouldn't be surprised
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: if he's on IR and then ends up with a
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: with a settlement of some sort. Um. I just feel
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: like that they they bought the two rookies in the
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Jones Boys, and I think they're both locks obviously. Um.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: And then you add I think Miles Bryant has been
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: pretty active in camp. He has some versatility to be
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: able to play some safety in corner. Um. So I
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: think when you look at all of that, I'm not
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: sure Joan Williams had a chance. Sean Wade, Mike is
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: pointing out, we actually have him right on on camera
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: on go ahead, Mike, you talk a little bit about Sean.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I just I don't feel like I have a great
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: sense of him. He's a player that I came out
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: of that last game with. You know, I saw some
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: some positive mentions to him. To be honest, he didn't
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: really pop for me. Um just in watching it, you know, live,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: But I think he's He's somebody that's a little bit
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: intriguing is that, you know, played mostly in the slot
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: when Jonathan Jones was out early on, Miles Bryant was out,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: got some run with the Ones, and you know we've
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: seen him a little bit more on the outside. So
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I just I don't know if this opens up a
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: roster spot, not necessarily for Shaun Wade, but I think
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Sean Wade, Malcolm Butler, those are guys that you know,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: maybe have a little bit more of an opportunity to
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: step up here over these last two weeks. But again,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: it just it feels like it's all starting right now.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: So I think this is when you know at corner,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I mean it's Jalen Mills, Jonathan Jones, Jack Jones, Marcus Jones,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I think Miles Bryant. So I think you might be
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: looking at one spot maybe for Shaun Wade or who
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: am I miss? Mitchell? Um um oh, I forgot about
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Mitchell or Butler. I was gonna say Sean Wade, Butler.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: So I think it I think cornerback is kind of
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: similar to wide receiver. I think you have a lot
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: of sort of established names, but not a lot of answer. Yeah.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I was impressed by Wade in the preseason game with
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the Giants. I said during the game that he reminded
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: me of the first year Malcolm Butler. He you know,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: he's not Darrell Reeves or any even close to that,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: but he was competitive, he was feisty, he was right
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: there with every play. It made a couple of plays,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: and you know, you know, that's what you're looking for
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: at this stage in his career. It's just are you
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: in the right place? Are you in a position to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: make a play? And I thought he was. I So,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you know, I I would be encouraged if I was
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: in the Sean Wade camp from what I saw Thursday night. Yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: And that guy we're looking at now, Jaelen Mills, I mean,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I think he's been he's been pretty solid. He's been
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: their best corner in camp. So, I mean, in terms
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: of what you'd like to see, I mean, I'd love
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: to see some of the two young Jones boys maybe
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: match up against DJ Moore and a drill, just you know,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: to get a sense of how do these guys looking
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and one on one coverage. I mean, of course that's
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: a drill. It's not like the be all end all
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: of But I think the way Jack Jones has been
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: aggressively jumping balls, it's right, it's gonna be interesting to
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: watch because, as Paul and I were saying yesterday, and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: even Evan had asked Pellegrino about it, you know it's
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: you're gonna jump those, you better get him because if
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: you don't, you're gonna get burned, and then everybody's gonna
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: be all over your butt. I mean, if he ends
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: up with like, you know, eight or ten picks, you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: people will be okay with he made. He made a
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: lot of plays, But the way he played that game
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the other night, to me is a very very living
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: on the edge, very risky way to play the game.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: But I would just say, I like the I like
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: the anticipation, I like the aggressiveness of it. And you
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: know it, not a lot of players have that kind
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of confidence out of the gate to to to make
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: to take those chances. So as there there comes, Mac
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Jones should see plenty of him today. Mac takeing the field,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: the fans reacting, he's been you know among the early
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: arrivals consistently during training camp. Let's go to the phones.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Five past five hundred is the ACE ticket hutline. We'll
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: start with Ben, who's in Massachusetts somewhere. Hey Ben, Hey guys,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I'm on the cave. About the cave. Yeah, I have
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a two questions. Um walking Williams? Um this morning? Is
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: so no cuts? Now? Is that is the deal? Like that?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Because I know we had eighty six and you have
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: to get down to eighty five, but I think we
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: actually had eighty seven. Yeah, but that would be one
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: that would be my guest and it will specula yep, Yeah,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: would prediction. Okay, thanks for the car. Andrew Stuber has
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: not practiced. You have the rookie seventh round pick out
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: of Michigan has been on NFI. He does not appear
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: to be anywhere close. We haven't really seen him. My
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: guess that's an easy move. You could just put him
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: on NFI reserve as opposed to active in that would
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: be that would be a raighty five, you know, assuming
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: they put William John Williams on. Teddy Bruski's here at practice. Hey,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I saw him this morning jogging around a little bit yeah,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: he knows, he knows when the good practices are right.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: And this is forget all that other stuff we've been watching.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: This is uh. Now, Paul, you've clashed with him at
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: high school football, right, I have? Yeah? I have? Yeah,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah I got. I got a bear hug from him.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Did you last last year? Are at uh at Bishop Fenwick? Yeah?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: But your your kids were on opposite teams were Yeah,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: so a little little bad blood. Yeah, absolutely. I he
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to come around me. I got my Fenwick
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: football hat on. Okay, let's come away from me. Let's
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: go to Brandon and Buffalo. Hey, Brandon, Hello, what's up? Hello?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: My question is that, um, I want to I want
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: to see uh the two Bailor kids uh face each
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: other in practice and in the game. Okay, all right,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: who was that I assume in the corner? And okay,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: so you want to see them? I think everybody else
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: does too, Thanks for the call. I mean. Thornton is
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: a guy that's on everybody's mind, you know, second round pick. Uh.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: He's he represents something the Patriots haven't really had a
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: lot of at wide seever, which is flat out speed.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: He's shown some of that so far in practice. Yeah,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: he's been he's been good. Yeah, he continues to show up.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's just the uh, y'all knew
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: he was a long burner. But I just I think
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: his development with being able to track the ball, he
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: looks pretty good at that, you know. He just he
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: seems like he's got a little bit of savvy too
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: in terms of the you know, some of the moves
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: he's understanding to set up. So we'll see. I just
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I think he's made a case that we just we
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: got to get him on the field here. Yeah, And
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: it's just he can't be a retie. Even in the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Giants game on Thursday, you know, there was that one
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: stretch of plays where they were like, okay, this is
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Tyron Thornton time, and he caught the ball when they
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: threw the ball to him, he caught it. Well you
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: know sometimes well like I thought the deep ball, he
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: had a really good chance to make a play on it,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and he didn't. Everybody's sort of forgetting that. That was
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the one the first past Day threw to one. Yeah,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: he was open and I thought had an opportunity to
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: make a play on the ball. He didn't on that play.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: The thing I noticed was the separation he immediately out
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. He gave his defender a
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: nice stiff arm right at the line. Has been very
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: consistently open. Yeah, and just been the most impressive thing
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I've seen from him on campus. So I like what
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I've seen so far. It's you know, so far, so
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: good with him. But you know, we need to see
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: a lot more, There's no doubt. Let's go back to
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the emails at web radio at Patriots dot com and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Kevin is in Dublin, Ireland watching the show. Thank you.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Super excited for the new season. Seems like a make
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: up break year across the board, as far as Max's
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: career trajectory as a starting quarterback and the prospect of
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Belichick staying a few more years. I'm excited to see
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Hunter Henry this year. I thought he did well last
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: season with a limited group of receivers to draw targets
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: from Mac. With the receiving group improving on paper at least,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: and providing more options in the passing game, how do
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: you see this affecting Henry's season? Ah, I mean, I
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: hope it sets him up more in the red zone.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think he's you know, that's
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: where he does his best stuff, and that's what we
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: saw last year. And you know, I just I'd like
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: to take a little bit of pressure off those guys.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I think that's what can happen with the receivers if
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: they were able to stretch the field a little bit.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: It seems like they're dedicated this year to pushing the
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: ball maybe a little bit more down the field, sou
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you know, hopefully that that opens things up, not just
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: for Hunter and Henry, but for for Johnni Smith too,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: who you know again yesterday, just I don't want to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: call him a focal point of the offense, but it
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: seems like they're making an active effort to get him
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: involved in a number of different Would you say that
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: last year Hunter Henry was the only real threat they
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: had in the red zone, I mean kind of you know,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: if they weren't well, if they weren't able to pound
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: it in the passing wise, Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: So this year, does the presence of DeVante Parker help
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Henry in order? Like you know, so you've watched the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: tape from the Patriots last year, you're opposing team, You're like, Okay,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: we got to stop Henry in the red zone. But
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: now maybe Parker changes that a little bit, you know,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I mean as far as the contested catch shot play. Um, maybe,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: but you know, I still think they need an element
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of somebody who can shake and bait quick and get
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and get open quick and find that you know, a
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: little spot in in the in the you know, the
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: soft spot on the zone. Um, we'll see. I think
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: it's a great question. And you know, can John H.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Smith be more productive down near the red zone? Because
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I would love to see, you know, I don't I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: don't think, you know, Born and Agil like those guys
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: seem more fifty plus, you know, when you're in the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: middle of the field and able to get downfield and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: more space to work with. So I think it's an
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: interesting element and a hugely important one. One they've got to,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you know, score touchdowns in this league. And you mentioned
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: just now, Mike, you said being able to get open quick.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: You know, because we've seen a lot of plays in
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: practice so far red zone. You know, deep corner fades,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: you know, things that take about two three seconds to develop,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: maybe even more. But like what you're talking about is
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: that you're talking about someone right off the line, quick
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: slant open, you know, and could Thornton be that guy?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: You know? And it's just lean yeah. Yeah. The only
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: thing about as it relates to Hunter Henry, like if
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you're improved, you know with the receivers and there's more
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: options in the red zone. I mean it's it's a
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: good thing for the team, but for specifically for Hunter Henry,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: it's probably gonna take away opportunities, right, I mean that's
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: what you want is to not have to rely on
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a one guy down there and have a couple of
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: different options. Right. If it turns out that what you
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: think you have on paper, you know it is the
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: way it plays out, that's a good thing for the offense.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: You have more options. Alex and Petuckett Um, let's see,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: he has a team question. How much influence will this
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: preseason have on your view of the season. I know
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the preseason doesn't typically matter, but with all the unknowns
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: we have on the team, does this preseason tell us
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: more than normal? Not for me, it doesn't. But I
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people will get all excite about
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: different things. No, I mean in a negative way too,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: not just positive. Yeah, but to me, preseason is preseason.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: It prepares you for the regular season. And I've seen
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of teams that look great in the summer
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: that are terrible, and I've seen the opposite. So yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I wait to see what happens when the games County
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I create, especially where they're so specific of game plan
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: oriented offense and defense, so they're gonna play into their strengths.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: So no matter what you've seen as it farest team period,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you haven't seen anything until they actually get to that game.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: And I just look at in Miami Week one, how
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Miami's kind of had your number the last few years,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: what it would mean to get a divisional win, and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you know, arguably one of your hardest road games of
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the whole season down there, you know, a new coach
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: down there. It's just that's what I look at. I
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm going to know much of anything
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: going into that game other than you know, a few
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: players that I think can potentially step in and help.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: But ultimately it's gonna come down to game day and
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: what they want to do on both sides of the ball,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and nobody really knows what to expect. Mike and Mathowan says,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: what's the clear liquid in the bottle in front of Paul.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: It does not look like a diabet It's an empty
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: diabetics as an empty dips. Guy. We got to get
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: more PEPSI for Paul. I know, I think there's a
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: whole bag full right right here. Okay, we're good. I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: don't want a guy I want. I don't want you
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: passing out. No, I'll be fine, Freddie, don't you worry
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: about it. Eight five five pats five hundred is the
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: ACE ticket line? Eight five five pats five hundred. Let's
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: go to Steve in New York. What's up, Steve? I'm
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: not much guys. How are you guys doing today? We're
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: doing all right, wonderful. Um So two two questions. One,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: what do you guys want to see at a MAC
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: today in terms of, you know, making taking those next steps?
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: And two in terms of the defense if we dominate,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: does that really say anything about the defense today? Based
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: on the quarterback situation with um Carolina, I'm mean I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: think it's worth something. You know, you've seen him do
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: it against against the Patriots offense for a little bit.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: But you know, I think there's an element that they
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: know what's going so I mean a little bit, But
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think that, you know, I'm going to come
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: out of this thinking that they you know, have a
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: top three defense no matter what kind of happens. But
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just another chance to see them against
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: somebody else and certainly some talented players. So um, sure,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: you know, I think you can take a little bit
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: out of it in terms of overall performance. Today. In
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: terms of Mac, what I want to see is how
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: quickly is the ball out of his hand? How decisive
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: is he today? You know, is he bringing it down
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and having to scramble because no one's open? Or does
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the offense look normal? Right? So that's what I want
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: to see, And then of course you know you'd love
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: someone to catch it. Yeah, I'm not fixating so much
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: on you know, whiting up practice practice field that to
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: me doesn't but I want the offense to look normal.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it hasn't really looked normal very many times. Yeah. So,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: so how decisive is Mac today when it's time to
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: throw that? That that's important? Um, you know, is that
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: tells a lot, you know about how like Paul said,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: how is the offense running? You know, is it running
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: the way it was? Drawn up and this is the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: first time, you know, other than Thursday night, that they'll
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: be able to kind of script things and do it
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: against a team that doesn't know what's coming and the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: offense doesn't know what the defense is running. So you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: this is another reason why Bill loves these joint practices.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: It gives you that insight into your team that it's
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: hard to get when you're just practicing against yourself. Yeah,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I want to I want to see the run game,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you know. I just I think even in the passing game,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the pass rush is muted, they're not going to really
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: truly come after the quarterback like they really would. But
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: in the run game, I think it's a little closer
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: to what live football looks like. And you know, just
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: with what the Patriots have been trying to do with
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the outside zone stuff, if they continue to try to
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: do that, I think it'll be telling against a good
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: defensive line or these are these Patriots offensive linemen able
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to get out and sync, you know, seal the hole
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and and you know, open up some lay for the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: running backs. I think it's just if they can't do that,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: then then I think they might be, you know, in
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: trouble you got to have that offensive line open and holds.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: For this running back group, I think they should lead
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the way as far as the offense goes. Hey. Then
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: the other part that you don't know, and you know
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Belichick talked a little bit about the touched on it yesterday,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: is you know, you're able to really scrip things and
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: talk to the other coach and you get scenarios and
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: situations that you want. So that's the other reason why
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I don't get too lost with the results of these practices,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: because for all I know, you know, to Mike's point,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: we want to work on the outside zone runs that
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: we've been struggling with. So maybe Bill says, listen, can
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you give us this look? Yeah, you know, which is
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: you know, advantageous for for for getting something set up,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you have no idea
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: what kind of scenarios are being talked about among the coaches,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And even if you did, you wouldn't really know. You know,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: let's let's face it, like, oh, oh yeah, you know
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: they're in they're in an odd man front and the
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: other that that's perfect, that's perfect. But the outside zone stretch,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: you don't you don't know what the coaches understand that
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: obviously it's second nature to them, but there is a
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: lot of talking that goes on in these these practices
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: to set things up. I'm always interested in the technology. Uh.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: The Panthers have one of their video guys. He's holding
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: a tall pole, probably about I don't know, ten feet tall,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: and on top of it, it's got a little camera
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and then down at waist level he's got the controls
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and they're using that to film, you know, what's going
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: on at field level. And obviously they'll use that later on,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you know, for to break down how their practice went.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: But I you know, just a little interesting device that
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: they're using there right now. Both teams are fully on
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the field. The Patriots are to our left, the Panthers
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: are to the right, and you know they're doing their
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: team drills right now, uh separately, as you know, the
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Panthers are broken up into two sections offense first defense
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Patriots are I don't know what they're
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: what are they doing. They're doing some pun return work. Yes,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's actually working on the punt team. But
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: you got JJ Taylor down here with Miles Bryant, Jabrill Peppers,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: little Marcus Jones, you know, just handling some of these
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: punts here. Yeah, maybe a note too that that Peppers
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and Marcus Jones are are here and not in Red Jerseys.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, a couple of guys that might have had
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: some lingering injury effects. Marcus Jones being the only real
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: rookie who didn't play the other night, and Peppers seems
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: like he's starting up things a little bit too. So yeah,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: we saw Peppers increase his workload a little bit yesterday.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I thought in eleven on eleven he got more reps,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: mostly with the secondary groups, but he was out there
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: a lot. I thought that was the most most active
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: we've seen him in any practice. Due would you agree, Oh? Absolutely,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: And I mean I think it's just bring into a head.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: How do you involve all these guys, including Bledsoe, when
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: you have you know, five safeties that you know you
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: all have different intriguing little skill sets and experience or
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: you know, just at least with Bledsoe his youth. Yea.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: So it's how that position group plays out. You talk
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: about the Sean Wade, the Jawan Williams thing going down.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe maybe that helps open up a spot
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: for Josh Blitzell, you see the Panthers also wearing those
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: guardian protective covers over their helmets. That's the league wide thing,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: not just here at the Patriots fabio in Stuttgart, Germany,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: writes in I wanted to get the important thing out
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: of the way first. I missed the Zuber. Thanks for
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: asking sound drap. Can we maybe drop it when Stuber
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: is mentioned? Close enough? And how do you think our
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: cornerback depth will look like at the beginning and the
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: end of the season. Maybe during the season some of
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the rookies catch up and we'll play some more. Start
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: with Mills, Mitchell, Joe, Jonathan Jones, and go to Mills
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and replace Mitchell with Jack Jones. If Jack Jones is
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: a Malcolm Butler type rookie. You mentioned that a few times,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: and having Mills and Jonathan Jones beside him, that's not
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: as bad as I thought during the season. Yeah, And
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: how the cornerback depth chart will look is that the question? Yeah?
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: How we'll look at the beginning and will that evolve
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: at the end. I do think it will. I think
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: you'll see bigger roles for both the Jones boys, Marcus
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and Jack Jones as the season progresses. I'm gonna tell you, Mike,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I think I've seen Jonathan Jones on the outside enough
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: to think that that's what they're looking at, at least,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you know, even if if if just for the game
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: plan of the the opener. Yeah, you know, maybe they
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: feel like they need him on the outside. Maybe his
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: his added speed on the outside. Um, and they're gonna
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: they're gonna go in that direction. I'm you know, I'm
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: not telling you that that's what's gonna happen. But we've
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: seen Jonathan Jones on the outside with Jalen Mills now
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: for the last several practices, with Marcus Jones getting a
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: lot of work in the slot. I think Terrence Mitchell
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: will be part of the equation as well. I don't
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: know about Malcolm Butler and I don't do you do
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: you have him? I don't have him again, don't him
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: again practice yesterday? I don't have him crossed off and
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: one new face I'm looking for, Paul. Maybe you can
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: help me out as Trent Brown. I have not crossed
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: him off yet, but I haven't gotten all the offer.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this this big Trent Brown got Okay, I
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: got him so there, I mean I will haven't seen
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: win or Harun so two tackles, a little bit of
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the tackle depth I think being being tested and we're
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: seeing Yadney could just out there now getting some initial
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: stamps there at the right tackle. You know, Paul, you
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: mentioned Marcus Jones in the slot. I really like him. Um,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: you know, the first game that the Patriots have that
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: counts is Miami and they got speed ye, So like
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: you wonder like, how much are they gearing up for
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that game? That's why I think Jonathan Jones has been
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: a bigger part of that because I think he's faster
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: than Terrence Man. Yeah, we need to you know, we
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: need to make sure that we can match them speed wise.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: And look, they're gonna make their plays, I'm sure, but
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: at least have our guys in the vicinity. So you
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: just wonder, like what we're seeing now, how much of
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: that is you know, focusing on Miami being that first game. Oh,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I agree, I think that's part of it. Yeah, And
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I think even seeing some of Marcus Jones in the slot,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's an intriguing little thing to
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: watch it. You know, are they really ready to throw
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: him out there based on I mean didn't play the
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: preseason game, but he continues to get some reps near
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: the top in the slot, so we'll see. He's certainly
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: a guy. I mean, he's small, but but he's quick
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and he's got good feet, and I mean that's one
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: of the strengths that he had was the ability to
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: kind of match with receivers. But you know, matching with
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: receivers in college where he came from his one thing
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: doing it against Jalen Waddle Tyreek Hill, that's that's a
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: whole other thing, Kevin writes in says, first time writer,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: long time listener, what do you guys think of Kendrick
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Bourne's quiet camp so far? I know he said he
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: was excited for the new wrinkles in the offense. And
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: any John who's sightings on your guy's end haven't heard
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: much about him. I think John who has been very
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: active throughout camp. Yeah, yeah, we've written about him a
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: couple of times. Yesterday it seemed like and I know
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: our buddy Evan wrote this m or tweeted this yesterday.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: You know, they were all short passes and quick hitters,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you know, stuff out of the backfield, little swings, but
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: he seemed like he caught every other Pastchester. Yeah, he
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: was very involved in the practice. Jona Smith Kendrick one
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: has been quiet. I don't really make much of it. Um.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I think they have those top four guys. I think
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: they kind of know what they have with with Parker
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: born Myers in Agalore, and I wonder if Thornton has
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: played well enough to sort of supplant one of those
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: guys and maybe take one of the veterans and you know,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: encourage them to move a veteran, you know, and you know,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Born Myers and Aglow would be the candidates because they're
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: both in the last year or their deals. But I
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. I would hold on to the veterans
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: and let the rookie sort of pick his spots and
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: go from there. Jake is in ben Dingo or Australia.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: UM loving the big Beano action. I don't know what
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: that means, nor do I giving its free season? How
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: many how many regular season games do you give it
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: before fingers are pointed at coaches if we don't have
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: a great start the first game, the first game. No,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is not going to be about the players.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna be about Mac Jones if the offense
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't do well, it's going to be all about Belichick's
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: decision to put two defensive oriented coaches in judge of
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the offense. That's that's your storyline. If it doesn't go well,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: that is your storyline. But for us people who are
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: more discerning, Paul, well, I have to see it. Yeah,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: you know, how will we tell if they're running the
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: ball into the line on third and eight, I'm gonna
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: blame the coaches. Yeah, if Mac is not finding open guys,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: that that we see, you know, and I'm gonna blame
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: the quarterback, right, but everybody else will blame just reflexively,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: they'll blame the coaches. If if the offense isn't good, yeah,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: that that will definitely be a storyline. And since you know,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Thursday we heard the postgame press conference where a lot
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: of people were asking Bill about the offensive coordinate situation.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: You know, we really haven't had any more clarity on
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that since then. A lot of these all the assistants
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: talked yesterday, and you know, Joe Judge and Matt Patricia.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: You know, basically we're saying, listen, he's the head coach.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: We just come in every day and we do what
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: he tells us to do, and we're not worried about it.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: You know, Um, it'll work itself out. So that's that's
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: what that's what we're being told right now. Yep, you
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: know that's accurate. I mean, I think that's a good
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: summation of the way Joe, Judge and Ma Patrician sounded yesterday. Freddie, Yeah,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, we have full faith and this
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: is a collaborative and this is what we're doing and
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: we don't question it. Um, you know. But one of
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: the things I thought that was interesting. I don't know
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: if it was Joe, it was Judge or Patricia, but
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: you know, they were talking about flexibility and they said,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: you know, no one is more flexible than Bill Belichick
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: when it comes to listening to ideas and the back
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: and forth conversation. Um. You know, there was a book
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: written a long time ago by David Halberstam, The Education
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: of a Coach, and that education still exists. It's Bill
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: giving it to everybody else and then and then everybody
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: giving it to each other. It just seems to me
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: like it's it's like, you know, football university going on here,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: you know. Uh yeah, well I mean, I think that's
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: been and I almost go also to example of you know,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: that twenty eighteen team when you know, they said you
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: couldn't really be a spread team anymore, and you kind
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: of leaned a little bit more into the power run,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: which you know wasn't exactly who they were. But I mean,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I think that's the same thing that's going to happen
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: with this offense, no matter how it looks out of
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the gate. I mean, I think that they will continue
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: to practice, obviously, and it should get better. And I
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: think that's that might be the hard thing to swallow,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: is that are you going to take a half step
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: back here early in the season with everybody trying to
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: figure this out, but then at the end of the
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: season everybody gets it. You're able to play fast, you're
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: able to not be easy to defend, and can you
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: get it before it's kind of too late, you know,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: before you're out of the playoff race. So I think
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: that's a little bit of the race. I you know, again,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: it goes back to what do you expect. I had
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: no doubt that they're gonna, you know, put together a
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: competent team and you know, be a tough team to
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: to play, and you know, they've always been that way
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: because they're well coached and you know, usually they don't
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: beat them else But I think what you've seen over
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: the last three years, it's just to can't fade out
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and fizzle out like it has. And I think that
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: it's ultimately going to come down to can they get
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: it quick enough that things really start to click and
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: they can make a push. And when you mentioned Bill
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Belichick adaptability, that's what I think of. Like I've seen
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: a guy like Bill Belichick change game plans, change philosophies,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: not be married to anything in particular, you know, as
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: well as any coach that I've been that I've been around.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I think that's where his adaptability is. You know, I
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: don't know about the rest of the stuff because when
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I'm privy to that, you know, the behind the scenes stuff.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: But like Mike gave a great example of how they
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: just sort of decided we got to lean on the
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: things that we do well down the stretch in eighteen
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: and you know, and they they went to a little
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: bit more of a conservative running attack and ended up
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: winning another Super Bowl as a result. Yeah, that's why
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's it's so much about will
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: they just scrap what they're doing. It's I think they'll
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: just continue to evolve what they're doing and try to
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: push it towards what they can do well. Right. I
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: don't think he just blow up the work that you've
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: done in the summer and make that all wasted time
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: on the field. I think they'll find something. So far
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: at the structure of the practice is a typical Patriots practice.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: They broke up into their team drills early, kind of
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: walked through mode, and now they're into their stretching phase.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: This is what a typical Patriots practice would look. I
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: would say that in terms of like going longer, I
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: think they started later. They got out here, you know,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: significantly later than they have been most days in that
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: whole warm up period. I mean we're at ten o'clock, yeah,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: usually which usually years around ninety This is already done
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: a kind of stuff. Yeah, So I think that might
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: be part of the reason why they're out here a
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: little longer today, And maybe they got off to a
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the timetables off to a little bit of a different start. Yeah,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Because I was coming up here it was probably eight
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: forty and I still saw buses pulling in for the Panthers,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: so they didn't get here until eight thirty. They stayed
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: in the seaport. Oh really wow, So I like it.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a commute here. Let's see.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Connor writes in from Reno. He says, I keep seeing
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: articles popping up about us trading away a galore. From
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: what I'm hearing, he's been having a good training camp.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: If what I've read, it's a move to either free
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: up cap space or to keep other players like Trey
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Nixon and get Thornton more playtime. What is your guy's
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: opinion on trading Agalore for these reasons? Me, personally, I
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: think we should keep him. I agree that he's had
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: a good camp, and I agree that they should keep him.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: But the reasons to get rid of him would be
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: that he's not really part of the future, and you
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: might have a guy like Taekwon Thornton's who's really come on,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: and maybe you want to give him more opportunities in
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: the regular season. And that's the speculation. But I kind
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: of like the idea of having those veterans to rely on.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I do too, I just I'd like to get into
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the regular season and see what it really looks like,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: because it's you know, certainly guys have had their moments
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: here at camp, and and Agalore has had a good camp,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: and it almost looks like why you've got so many receivers.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: But I want the right ones. I want the good ones.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I want the ones that are going to click and
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: move the ball. And I don't really think you'll know
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: until you get into the real games that so it's
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: hard to just jettison you know, Agil or given how
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: he's been playing. Uh, you know, I think Myers has
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: really come on. He had a little bit of a
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: slope the first few days if if that even counts,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: before they were in pads, and you know, he's just
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: he's had a consistent camp too, So tough choices. But
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I still don't think you know for sure exactly what
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: you have Sam and Kentucky writes in he says he
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: just got the new Madden game and Tae Kwon is fast.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: But if he's fast and maddened, that then that's it, right,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: That's all you need to know as far as real
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: football goes. How many series do you think Mac will
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: play in the preseason game as against the Panthers, and
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: how much do you think the starters will play in
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: the remaining two preseason games. I think he's got a
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: plan to the third quarter in one of them, you know,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: whether it's this one or next week. Yeah, I might
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: lean this week. I think I think this week's the
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: heavy one, you know, the equivalent of Game three. But
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: it's tough because you get the two weeks between the
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: next one, and so it's a long time to go without.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think he needs significant action in both
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: of the games and one of you know, one of
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: them into the third quarter. Whether he just you know,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: maybe has a quarter and a half this week and
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: then plays in the third quarter next week, maybe that
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: makes the most sense. Bet Tamala Brown is joining us.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Oh microzone, Yeah, I'm here. How are you doing good?
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: How are you good? What what's going on? You were
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: you were at you were at Bill's press conference? What's
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: up with that? Biggest takeaways for me? UM from that
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: was kind of just well one Um. Someone asked about
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Joan Williams and he didn't confirm whether or not the
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: reports are true on his shoulder and being out the
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: whole year. Um, A day of win, day to day
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: um yaghni same thing he's doing, okay. Um, So that
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: kind of just like answered the questions. I think yesterday
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: with Isaiah Win being absent from practice and then situationally,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: they asked him about, you know what, what his expectations
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: were for today, and he's like, just for our team
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: to get better, that's it. Yeah. So just the usual
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: from Bhill, not too much just in him. What's the
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: five down there? Were you down there when both teams
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: got there? Yeah, it seems like there are a lot
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: of people who have friends on the Panthers and vice versa,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Like they came out together. Um, no heated arguments or
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: anything like that. Yeah, I know Sarge asked us about that.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Was there any bad blood from burns? Um? But yeah,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: other than that, I felt like it was good vibes.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I think everyone's just excited to come out here and
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: get better. I did talk to their team reporter as
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: well beforehand, and she mentioned that, you know, in the
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: same way the Patriots are kind of looking for the
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: young guys, the linebackers to rise to the occasion. They're
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: trying to see the same thing, like they're trying to
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: see which one of their players are really going to
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: show up in those practices because they have a lot
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: of new guys as well, and outside of the stars
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: like Christian McCaffrey, they're trying to see who else they have. Okay,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: And are the Panthers doing anything content wise that you
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: learned about, you know, anything special for this or they
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: doing I didn't get the scoop on the content, but
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I did ask Kristen could I interview her after today's practice,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: kind of pick her brain and see, you know, or
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: what is what we're seeing out here today the same
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: thing that they've been doing at their camp in South Carolina?
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Or is this all new for her? Okay, Yeah, that's
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: a little intel there. Yeah, all right, Web Radio at
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Patriots dot com. The Patriots are done with their warm ups.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: They're stretching, so they've now, you know, back to breaking
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: up into their teams. You've got the offensive lineman down
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: in Dante's Inferno. The rest of the team is up
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: close to us here. But the Panthers are still doing
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: They're they're stretching, so a little bit longer stretching period
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: for Carolina than the Patriots. Seems like Christian McCaffrey kind
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: of does his own thing. Oh, yeah. Where see he's
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: right about middlefield, kind of pumping his arms a little bit.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Just seach. He's been kind of walking up and down
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the sideline. So you guys see someone on the Matthew
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Slater plan all right? Um oh, trying to get my
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: phone connected again. Oh yeah, get a little problem there.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Sorry one um other note Fred, Well, I guess Paul
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: because Fred's busy Paul. That I thought was interesting from
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: um Bill's press conference where they asked him about, like,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: you know, how much situational stuff will we see today?
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: And he was like, you know, you won't see you know,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: the ball at the one yard lone, you won't see that.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: We specifically mutually agreed not to do those things. But
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: you will see a lot of things that we're not
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: used to seeing, and we're going to see how our
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: guys react to it. So I thought that that was
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: interesting that we wouldn't see um, you know, one yard
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: no line, yeah, no goal line, some situational stuffy yeah. Yeah.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: So I thought that was good and he said absolutely
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: on both sides. You know, there is at least one
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: person who knows what's going to come, but not everyone knows,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: and that's what you want to see the t harror guys,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: you know, react to that. Yeah, And that was kind
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: of what I was talking about earlier, how the coaches
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: talk and they sort of create situations. So that's what
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: you have to sort of when you watch it. You
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: sort of have to evaluate with that in mind, like
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: how much you know, Oh wow, Patriots really blew a
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: whole open right there. But that might have been a
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: situation where they said, Okay, listen, can you give us
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: this look up front, it's going to be advantageous for
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: us to get this playoff and none that doesn't always happen.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it does, and that's why even even in the
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: joint practices, you have to sort of look at it.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: And I remember last year in Philadelphia, Mike, you know,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: the first day Philly really played well, Philly had the
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: better of the play and everybody was like, oh, really,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Patriots licking their wounds, like really, like why why? You know?
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: So let's try not to get too lost in the
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: actual result of the practice. After the Panthers were done
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: with the stretching, they all got together and a big
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: team huddle in the middle of the field, did something
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: type of chant and then Paul another thing that I
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: that I touched on um that that really took away
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: from it was someone asked, you know, how much more
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: do you get out of this versus preseason He was like,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: you know, we really don't get to see much in
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: preseason games. He was like, you know, we see more
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: in the one on ones and the two on twos
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: in these joint practices, and we will get out of
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: a preseason game. So he really really values these almost
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: more than the preseason games. I think without question because
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: of what we would talked about, all right, well let's
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: do it. So what are we doing. Let's go. You
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: get set up all the scenarios and you can get
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: you know, and Bill used the example yesterday, like there
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: was a couple of late half situations where the Giants
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: moved the ball from deep in their own territory. They
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: were able to move it into the half situation, they
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: got out not quite into field goal range, set up
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: a hill Mary situation. But you don't really have all
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: the players on the field that are going to be
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: involved in those things. Ye when you're in a preseason game.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Same thing. At the end of the game, the Giants
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: were able to move into field goal range to to
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: kick the game winner. But that's in the practice send.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: You have the guys out there in the situations that
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: you want to create, and that's much more I think
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: in terms of preparation, that's much more valuable. Party parties
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: back is John and Nope, I wanted to go to
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: John in the Netherlands, but sorry about that, having a
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: little trouble with the phones. Let's get back to some
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: of these emails as we uh teams. You know, just
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: right now the teams aren't together yet. Still you still
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: have the Patriots on one field, the Panthers on the other.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: You're going through some more team drills. So I dropped
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: there by one Panther receiver. Glad he's not on our team.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I think we still got We got Patrick Chung here
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: again today. Each time I see him, it's like he
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: gets a little bit closer to football clothes, like he's
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: got the gloves on, and then he's got like the
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: white under now he's got cleats on. I feel like
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: he's slowly sneaking his way back on the time. I
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: think we got Moose Johnston and uh in Mike Mayock
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: here also, according to my my moles down close to
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the field, Mike Mayo. Is Maya back in the media
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: and app after? Is he done? Is he backfired? I know?
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: But is he back in? Uh? Who's he with? I
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: don't know? Or is he just a guess? Now I
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: assume he's just a guess. Okay, he's not here. I
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: mean he might be with NFL Network again, but he
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a job. Gonna get back on that draft
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: coverage missed him? Yeah, I miss his top twenty seven cornerbacks.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe you know reading draft guides isn't really
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: the road to being a GM that we thought it was.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: That's good, I like man, Joey writes in from Texas,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: San Benito. To be specific, this offseason has been kind
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: of discaraging since we still don't have an official OC
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: in DC. If Belichick and the Patriots knew of Josh
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: McDaniel's departure, why not get try to get someone outside
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: of the organization that can possibly coach the offense. If
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Maddy p or Judge does not work out this season,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: who do you guys seem coaching the offense next year?
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: That's a situation people speculated Bill O'Brien. Yeah, but my
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: guess is that one of the guys that is doing
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: it this year will be deemed to be much more
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: further along the process next year. Um. You know, like
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I could see Joe Judge is sort of being worked
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: into that role and now next year he's ready to
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: go full bore offensive coordinator something like that. I could
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: see scenario like that unfold. I forget some somebody on
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: the radio was saying yesterday that there they think that
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Right now Judge is doing the play calling because he's
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: you know, been here a little longer, a little bit
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: more familiar. But eventually it's going to be Joe Judge.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I mean Patricia, Yeah, I'm sorry, Patricia's the one doing it.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: I just don't see how he can coach offensive line
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: and coach plays. That's why I think they have to
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: get Joe Judge up to speed. Yeah, but this is
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: all giving Joe Judge time to do that. So right
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: now Patricia is doing. David Andrews will be a little
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: busy actually playing. He won't be able to coach the offensive.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: He's like Red Dunlop player coach. Right, Um, Travis in
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: West Virginia is the roster still at ninety players? Did
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: they fill the roster spot that James White had and
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: when do the rosters get cut down? Now? I think
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: they're at eighty seven eighty seven and today is eighty five.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: They need to be the eighty five by four o'clock today,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: and then I think it's eighty next week, next a
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: week from today, and then down to fifty three. Someone
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: today asked about strengths and weaknesses of the team, and
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: you know, Bill was like, well, we're gonna learn today,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Like that's what we're gonna learn in this joint practice
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: today is kind of where our strength, strength and weaknesses are.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: M I kind of what he spoke tomorrow to the media,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: so we could kind of pick his brains. Here's a
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: little hint for here's the strengths that are not an accident.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: That's not an accident, that he gets his three out
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: of the way yesterday today and then the game Friday. Yeah,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: so it looks like we'll have to fall up on
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: that next No evaluation of the joint practices. Yeah, it is, uh,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: just watching some of the Panthers quarterbacks. So it's just
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: it's just always interesting to see another team contrast to
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: what you've been seeing how they do things. But also
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: just the kind of comes out of the quarterbacks hands,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: you know, one I'm always struck by in all seriousness
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: and just like this is football, Like you can do
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: things all different ways. And you're looking over there and
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, yeah, the guys in the teal they're
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: playing football. Look at them. Look at them practicing. Oh
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: and the guys in the white, Yeah, they're throwing passes
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: and catching them, and they're running and simulating tackles. That.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's there's a lot of different ways to
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: do it, but in the end, it's all the same. Yeah,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just I mean, you get used to
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: watch in your own players, absolutely, and once you get
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: some different players like whoa, you know, McCaffrey. I haven't
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: really McCaffrey hasn't caught my eye yet. I mean I
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: see him there, but I saw him running most of
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: the plays when they were doing their little walk through
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: before stretching, like he was getting a lot of the
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: carries and just he just he's one of those guys
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: that his upper body doesn't move at all when he runs.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: That's such an athlete. But they've got a figure out
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: a way where even if he's on the field every play,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: isn't going through him. I mean, nobody can. Is that durable?
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know this. I think to that point
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: two for it. I mean, with his injuries, it's like
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: you kind of want to make sure that it's not
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: only going through him because if something happens to him again,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: then what do you have, right, which is what we've
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: seen like this conundrum of like the Derrick Henrys of
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: the world, and I mean we really haven't seen much
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: of him since his first first year and a half. Yeah.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Now in that case it really isn't all him, but
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: he still gets hurt. Yeah, there's just something up with him. Yeah.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Yon in the Netherlands is writing in. He says, I
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: would like to pitch in on the discussion on who
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: was going to be the offensive coordinator. I was wondering
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: what your view is on the role of Brian Hoyer
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: in that process. With all of his experience of the
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Patriots system, he must be like a second quarterback coach, right,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: how does he factor into the discussion? But we were
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: talking about like the backup quarterback used to be the
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: one who relayed the plays in like if they really
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: wanted to confuse everybody, that would make Hoyer do it. Yeah,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I just think that it's hard to be a player
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: and a coach, Like I'm being dead serious. Yeah, I
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: just think that's that's a lot he has to prepare
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: himself to be the backup quarterback and to expect him
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: to spend I mean, is he is he helpful to
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: mac Jones in to a lesser extent? Bailey's happy? Of
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: course he is. Of course he is. But he's not
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, right, can we agree on that? Yeah?
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Chatton Atlantis says, I'm watching the live practice in Wow,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Thornton looks like a skeleton. I'm glad they drafted some speed,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: but I fear for his safety lest he go across
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: the middle. Yeah, and they have sent him across the
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: middle of a lot in his camp which we've all
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: sort of come in, not just in the middle like
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: into the line the block. Anyone's there? Is Both Fred
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: and Paul lefties. Yes, that's correct, both are Oh. National
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: left Handers Day was a couple of days ago, I
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: believe it was. Did you celebrate Paul? He spent the
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: day massaging his left shoulder out. Yeah, you know what,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: feeling a little better today? Or yes, my oldest lot.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Oh nice. Yeah, so your brain gets squeezed when you're born,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: makes you creat them. You wouldn't know about that web
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot com. It's the email address. What's
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Bill doing right now? Dude, we know where Bill is.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: It'll locate them here. So much for the importance of
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: joint practices, Bill decided not to come up. I think
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: there were two separate crews. We talked about the refs
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: really early in the show. I think there are two
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: separate crews. A couple of the refs are talking about
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Robert Kraft Sarah Thomas. Is that I believe, I mean
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: that's one of the female rowers. I don't know if
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: that's I think believe that's they're a handful of them.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: But I saw two different referees with the white you know,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: the white refereecap So two separate crews. I got Bill.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like I need a booster seat. He's talking. Uh,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: he's talking to the team doctors. Oh. I never like that.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: I don't look like anybody's been her. Oh yeah, I
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: see him. Yeah, Is that is that wal that's Jim
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: the head trainer. Yeah, yeah, I just at one point,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: like usually, you know, he and Rule will probably get
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: together and watch practice together. I would imagine that's the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: way he's done in the think Pat Rule pulls a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay and says, you know, a Bill, like, it's
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: just like so awesome to be out in the practice
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: field with you. Yeah, right, Do you think that well
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: he should. Do you think that happens? Yeah? I would imagine. Yeah, um,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: trying to find Rule Russell in Arkansas. With the signing
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: of Devin Hafford, does that finally seal the deal for
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Juan Williams chances of making the team or is he
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: just another camp body? I think he's just he's some depth. Yeah,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: he got signed because Jowan Williams got hurt, which we
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: kind of speculated on yesterday. Yeah, he was, I mean
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: he was here briefly. When did Williams get hurt? I know,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: but like I didn't see when it happened. We didn't
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: see a specific play, but he was seen in the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: locker room after the game with a rap on his
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: shoulder according to reports. Yeah, and then when what's the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: deal on him? This is? This is four practices now, Yeah,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: the last four practices plus the game. I know Bill
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: said day to day, but yeah, you know, you just
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: wonder at what point is it is it just you
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: can't You're not reliable. We're trying to move you the
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  Speaker 1: right tackle. You know that. That's what what you wonder.
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  Speaker 1: count on this guy, Let's just move on. I just
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  Speaker 1: don't know how we feel about the backup offensive linemen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Yahdekad just has been in there, but
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  Speaker 1: is he a plus NFL player? I don't can you
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  Speaker 1: make a move for Win like because you can't have
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  Speaker 1: them like taking up ten plus million on your right
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  Speaker 1: you know, unless you can move them. But how do
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  Speaker 1: I always, I mean, all these injuries that are happened,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe maybe someone loses a tackle and they need
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  Speaker 1: a title. Well when I always, you know, my cynical mind.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever like somebody's on the bubble, like Juwan Williams or
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  Speaker 1: somebody you know his status is in question, like Isaiah
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  Speaker 1: Winn and all of a sudden they're out, you wonder, like,
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  Speaker 1: is there more going on with Williams. I think that
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  Speaker 1: that would be, But I don't think wins status was
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  Speaker 1: in question. I think if if Winn was healthy and
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  Speaker 1: out there every day, he's the staughter at right tackle.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think his status is in question. You don't
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  Speaker 1: think like Williams. I think was was a bubble guy.
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  Speaker 1: Like you don't think like ever. They're working on a
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  Speaker 1: trade and it's like, okay, that could be. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: know what would he care? You're not one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna hold you out so that we're ready
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: to you know, you're saying not on wins part, on
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: the team's part, on the team's part. I misunderstood. I'm sorry. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I thought you meant like, um, you know, win maybe
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  Speaker 1: not feeling quite one hundred percent, like yeah, I need
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: a day. Yeah, now, you know, because he's he's in
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: danger of getting caught more. It's an agreement between he
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: and the team. Listen, you're you're on your way out
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  Speaker 1: of here. Well that yeah, I mean, I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't rule any of that stuff out. Yeah, because it's
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  Speaker 1: probably way more of that stuff that goes on than well,
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  Speaker 1: well ever know, because we get frustrated. Can you imagine
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: how they get frustrated with him? You know, because he's
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: got you know, he's got all the potential according to me.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you pay millions of dollars. You know, his
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  Speaker 1: ceiling is a pro Bowl guard, right, I mean, his
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: floor is a pro Bowl guard. I'm sorry. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like when it comes to like potential, there's only like
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: so long that you can really keep saying that someone
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: has potential before before it's like wasted potential, especially you're five,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: and it's still kind of the same same thing. You know.
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  Speaker 1: To me, it's what you do with that potential. Yeah,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: it would be one thing too, is I mean, obviously
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: his biggest problem is is his durability. He hasn't been
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: on the field consistently enough, but he's not a dominating player.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: When he's on the field, he's Okay, I'm not saying
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: he stinks. He doesn't stink. He's you know, he's a
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: serviceable tackle. But you know, it'd be one thing if
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: when he's healthy, you know, you see these glimpses of
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: just dominance. You don't say, right, you don't see that,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: so I do. I can imagine how how the coaching
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  Speaker 1: staff must feel, you know, dealing with him being in
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: and out of the lineup as often as he has been.
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  Speaker 1: And I know it's probably you know, no Tougher, anybody
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: more so than him. I mean, it's probably kills him
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: to be missing all the time that he does. Scott
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: and or In o'main is jumping to a conclusion. I'm
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: not sure it's accurate, but he says, with Damien Harrison
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: possibly going on the trading block, who could the Patriots
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: be targeting? I mean, I think it would be more
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: about from Andre Stevenson, but you know Time Montgomery than
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: than going to get somebody. If you traded Damien Harris,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: who would they be targeting, you know, like a fifth
• 1:04:23
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• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll do that, but that's what they
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: would be doing, right, I mean, what do you yep,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: and someone writes and I saw a news story that
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Stevenson is playing the James White roll, what are your
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: thoughts on that? I don't know how anyone would discern
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen that. I mean, I'm not saying that
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: he I think he could be a three down guy. Yeah,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I think he has really good ability to catch the ball,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: but I haven't seen him as a third down back.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Have you no now missing that? No, I've seen Time
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Montgomery in that role. Ye, but it's I mean, but
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: how can you you know? Even from up here, it's
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: like we've seen some situational stuff. But we got some
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: one on one starting up now. All right, I will
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: say today sung the Praises of time. So we have
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: to shut down the video per team rules right now,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: so we'll be sticking with you until the end of practice,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: just audio. So now it's really the pressures on us
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: guys to let all our listeners know what's going on
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: out there. And as Paul said, they're now I've come together. Yeah,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: both teams have come together full corners action. So we
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: got Patriots offense with Mac Jones and his receivers in
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: the closest field going against the defensive backs from Carolina.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: We got Mac completing the past to Devin Asias. The
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: other side is the opposite with the Patriots defensive backs.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: And then I'm not sure that was completely deduced pauls
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: on the ground. Oh he talked it, Okay, my apologize
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: misreporting there. And then and then someone on one's going
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: on the far on which uh it's the big boy
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: battles down there. Oh, good route by Trey Nixon really
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: turned his cornerback the inside out there. That is Oh,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: that's old friend, Duke Dawson. Oh, the duke, the duke.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: But nice route by Trey Nixon. Got a penalty over
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: here where mac Jones is throwing the ball. This is hard.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: This is the offense that's not good. Thornton try to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: double move, fighting fighting good coverage there? Who's that? What
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: number was that he's got the shirt all tucked up?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Twenty three three maybe twenty three Stanley Toomas Oliver, I'm
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: not aware of him. So in all of these, it's
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: all Patriots offense right now? Is that everything I have?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Everything's covered right now. Patriots offense on this side. On
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: the other side is defense, Okay, Jack Jones picking coverage
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: by Jack Jones, although receiver whining as receivers want to do.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: That's that's one with an oh shot, a nice push
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: off by John And when he got called and he
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: got a call for it, Yeah, I don't know though.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, he leaned his shoulder down, but did he
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: extend his arm The referee thought, so, yeah, they're calling
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: a close. Bill's yelling at the ref. He doesn't have
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: the palms up though, so it's not bad matter. Yeah,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: I'm already overwhelmed. With thirty seconds into the full corn offense,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I'm already overwhelmed the too much. That was a pretty
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: good rep there by, Wow, Jason Hines, not bad, not bad. Wow,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: dude Brown. Oh a nice route there by. The little
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Jordan that was Hoyer throwing, just coming fast and furious
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: right now will Willle Jordan also be Duke Dawson. So yeah,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: he's getting open a couple. I mean, so far on
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: this field anyway, the one closest to us with Mack
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: and Hoyer, it looks pretty good. But I think it's
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: been competitive back and forth, some guys making plays on
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: each side, which is I think probably what you want
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, wow for first all Patriots. But huh no,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: I just say you, like, if you're looking at some competition,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: it's my point, you're not just looking for, you know,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: guys like especially when they like concede it right after that,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: and it got me right, Yeah, you do the Darrell
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Rabus and you grab the n J. Jones, Keith Kirkwood,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I was gonna go teddy again. You should just be
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: able to call guys by any any pass player that
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: wore that number. Where's my boy too. Let's see some
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: d J Moore here. Yeah, so flag, I haven't had
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: a chance to see much of the lineman down down
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: yonder Haglord and it's a little shaken bag and he
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: caught it. Good job by David Andrews on h Davey
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: on Nixon and so Paul mentioned lineman uh furthest from
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: us on the near field. It's an offense for his
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: defensive lineman Carolina in the Patriots, and there's some battles
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: going on. They go, they're going at it down comes
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: here comes a good one for me day More against
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Sean Wade lining up to go next. So let's see
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: how this one goes. I think it's Darnold at quarterback. Yeah,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: let's see, that's a pretty easy win for DJ Moore.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: It's a quick release, yea quick release got inside Wade,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: but it is it's there's been back and forth. I
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: think you're getting plays made on both sides, which is which?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Which is nice? From Zappy over Frankie J. Jones is clapping.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that means should have had it
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: or my bad, but oh, I don't know. It could
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: literally mean anything, right. That's why if I was a
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: defensive I was catched by number forty three Jared Scott,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: one of the Patriots defenders who's number two. Mills just
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: made a nice play and he and he's they've got Mills.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: We did a little self celebration. That was a nice
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: move there by Pierre Strong, a little little shake and
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: with a nice deep catch over Kaylon Barnes. That's his
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: college teammates. There you go that the caller talked about earlier,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Baylor on Baylor crime. Harris just had a beautiful move
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: to spring open. You know, I don't know if so
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: calls any good, but but he's been consistent. Do you
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: think he could be the third tight end? I don't know.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Just yeah, there's a lot there's a lot of hand Yeah,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of hand driving on that one down field
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: contact there on little Jordan. They are calling it close,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: they are, and he drops it. That was reminiscent of
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: the Saints game last year. Yeah, you gotta hold on.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: He had both hands on the ball. He's not happy either,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be. He's fat. Finger Smith's got that those flat
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: feet Jay Jones on Teddy Gain. See it's a difference
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: in the throwing, like right there, that passes. That pass
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: has to be there, like Darnold missed him. I had
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: a window to drop it in and didn't didn't, uh
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: didn't get it. There. They've opened up the ramps here
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: at overflow. There's another one. Those gotta be pitching catches
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: right there. Those those are open and it all open
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: way off the mark. Yep, as was that throw by
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Zappy by Actually wasn't Zappy, It was Hoyer. Zappy's come
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: down here to work with macsis. He's good at that catch. Yeah.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: See that's the that's the play I'm talking about with
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Thornton the other day in the preseason game. He was
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: open like Myers just was. But he goes up and
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: gets the ball. He doesn't allow that the defender to right.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: The defender was right there, and I'd like, oh, this
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: is gonna be a tough one. But the throw was
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• 1:12:11
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• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: be so much film to pour through after a practice
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: like this, Like, I mean, you have six stations going
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• 1:12:35
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• 1:12:53
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  Speaker 1: if you can hear me. You can come take my
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: spot because I'm not welcome. Oven Evans over here. Um, okay,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: so just a little hunting, some computer issues here, dude.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: Some punts, yeah, getting that's why we're not really talking
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: as much about what's going on in the field. Some
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: punt work for the Patriots. Um, just had a rep
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: with Trey Nixon and Taekwon Thornton as your your gunners.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: But you also saw you know, all reliables Matthew Slater
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: and Justin Bethel doing that, as well as Christian Wilkerson
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: and Jonathan Jones. But I do find an interesting deuce
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: that they continue to, yeah, work Taekwon Thornton into that mix, yep,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: finding ways to see if they can get him on
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: that that game day roster you think, I mean, I
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: hope it. At some point they're like, it doesn't even
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: matter if he plays special teams. He's just so good
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: as a receiver where you know, we have a role
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: for him, Like that's I'd love to see that happen.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: But I'm really liking Miles Bryant in the mix. I
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: know he said he hasn't Miles Bryant can play. Yeah,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: I'm I know he said he hasn't done this since
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. But I think that obviously only a couple
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: of drives on Thursday, but I really liked why I
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: saw it from him on Special teams. Yeah, and it
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: is there, you know, is he actually going to push
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Marcus Jones? I mean, I think everybody's kind of hand
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: in Marcus Jones the yep that spot, but you always
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: need depth. We'll see if if the rookie is ready
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: to jump out. And I'm excited when we can finally
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: see Marcus Jones return some punts lab I mean, he
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: was just you know, amazing at it in college. So
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: now how they'll do this? Now the Patriots are punting
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: to the Panthers, and then they'll probably go through some
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: sort of seven on seven or maybe even an eleven
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: on eleven period shortly and then and then the next
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: time they do special teams would be the other way around.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: The Patriots will be handling the punts from from the Panthers.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: How's that for a breakdown, Captain? I think that Captain
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: obvious enough. I think that's what we're gonna see coming up. Yeah.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: So usually, yeah, right after this this special team session,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: you'll see, uh, like Paul said, seven on seven but
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: on one field, you know, also interesting to me. I
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: mentioned that the Patriots are in all white today. Panthers
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: may have gotten a piece of that punt right there. Um.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: I also found it interesting, and I hadn't seen this
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: in the past. You can remind me, Duce. The Patriots
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: specialists are all wearing red jerseys today. Yeah, yeah, and
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: I saw that good. Nick Folk and Tristan Viscayano, and
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: Jake Bailey and Jake Julian, the five specialists are all
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: wearing because that's what the red jerseys. The Panthers are
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: known for trying to take out your special teams. I guess,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: I guess those dirty Panthers. All right, So what do
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: we got? We got mac mack and Hoyer over here,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: Panthers defense is coming over to the field closest to us. Uh.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: And then on the field to our right, you got
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Donald and Mayfield first, I think. Yeah, So Patriots offense.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: How it looks like the full offensive line for the
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Panthers here. Yeah. Now, now it's going to be eleven
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: on eleven. Yeah, So Patriots on the left offense, Patriots
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: defense on the right. So this is now we're gonna
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: see some some action here. Let's go, oh man, let's go.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: I think that's now where's Bill Bill is with the Patriots?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Uh offense? Bills with the offense? He's right over here,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: right behind Yep, he's right to the Patricia's left. Yep,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: so Mac is under center. Little Baker Mayfield just should
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: have been picked off by Jalen Mills broadcasted that one
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: and I got so there you go, basically what from
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: where he left up zone left Harris running and I'm
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: not sure what Paker Mayfield was seen on the other
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: field there Jalen Mills was. It's almost like he had
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: too much time to get ready for the past. We've
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: got refs on both fields. Yeah, that's where the uh
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: the multiple cruise factor I'm in. Yeah, which is probably
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: something they've always done and I just never noticed it.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Gail Mayfield will not a snap. I guess Mayfield's gonna
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: run this first set and then they're gonna switch. Is
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: that McCaffrey. That's mccaff maybe a couple of yards there,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, obviously he's still running, but
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think that would have been a overly successful play.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: But he is a notable difference between when he hits
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: the hole. He's so fast to the whole right there,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: got him wide open. But why are you falling down?
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: So that's it right there. I mean that's the first
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: place zone left and the second one they do play
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: action and Mac boots back and hits Jacoby on a
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: cross us. I mean, oh no, that's you're known about
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. We're gonna probably see him this entire Yeah period.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: Wasn't that Mike Greece who said that, you know they
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: weren't going four and four? Yeah, I shared that early
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah, that they were gonna do kind
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: of divided up by period. Yeah. Um see here another
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: snap and here we got that's a good it's a
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: good style, the same thing. And that was kind of
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: his own right for Carolina. And that was a good
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: defense defense had it snuffed out, good good edge by
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Judean there there were nowhere to go on that one.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: I don't like this, Yeah, John, some John going on
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: this communication. No. I think Born is uh, whe's a
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: little gimpy, and I think they had they broke the
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: huddle and I think Bill told him to get out.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: So that's something to keep an eye on you. Who
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: took his place was a love at Agalore and Uh yeah, oh,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Levin's Thornton. Yeah right, so he went in for Born. Yeah,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: that's that's a little bit of a hole there. Yeah,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: Harris broke it out right bad and he's could go
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: all he does. Fred is so pumped right now. That
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: was Larry guy in the backfield over Robert. Yeah, I
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: don't know that one might have been blown up by
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: LG ninety three. This is good. I liked that they're
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: a little bit off time. You can watch one at
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: a time here. Yeah, that's why I was mad when
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: we had a re huddle there because it was definitely alternating,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: so he had a chance to see both plays and
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: Devanassi actually getting someone run here with the with the
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: offense play action. Yeah, I don't like that. Throw a
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: little behind him catching and running killed nice hands by Thornton, kids,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: impressing he's catching catching was thrown him. That's right all
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: right over on the other field, can't you get open?
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: Can't you catch it? Mayfield under center. It's a handoff
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: to McCaffrey and boy oh that one, that one would
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: have been about a twenty yards. Yeah. They sealed off
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: and got blocked off on that one. Teatrich Wise and
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: that is something you're seeing a little bit more of
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Jawan Bentley a little bit on the edge here and
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: there might be something to keep an eye on. Mac
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: and shotgun play action, toss a little rainbow, Yeah, toss
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: it up for DeVante Parker. Can hear that a lot
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: this year? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? I just once would
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: like to see him open, That's all I'm asking. Just once.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: But that was a quick play, Paul. I mean, you
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: know that's the way it was drawn up. They love it, Yeah,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: they love it. It was drawn up to think it's
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: not a way to sustained offense. But you know Mac,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Mac got the snap and just threw it up and
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: and Parker came down with it. That's a perfect description.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Just threw it up. There's a sack back in trouble.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: Was that out? Yeah? It was a sack um. Paul's
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: positivity this morning is something I like that much. There.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: I like the teklay and for the most part, I
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: like the run defense. There was the one play that
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: I thought McCaffrey slipped through, but it goes to the
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: other players have been you know, just a couple of
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: yards here and there, and he got born back in
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: How means it feel like they're where's Hunter Henry? Is he?
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Is he limited or something? Today? I don't know, but
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: it's I'll eliminate that born thing. What's our line? Look like?
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: We got Trent Brown it left, Yeah, it's it's Trent Brown,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Cole Strange, David Andrews, Michael Owen, and Yauld Just okay,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: so could Justice back? Okay? Good? Good? Joanna in the
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: backfield with Mac Jones. Yeah, we got a false start
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: on the Panthers. Stevenson was lining up flanker I don't like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: And we got to delay a game on the Patriots,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: which you know, right back into twenty twenty one for
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: the rest. Screwed us on that one. I think Darnold's in,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: Uh looks like, yeah, the Panthers Patriots starting to rotate
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: some guys in on defense. That's the same kind of thing. Yeah,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: that's that's the pitching catch for like seven Patriots live
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: on that Patriots. Uh complete about ninety percent of those Mac. Now,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: we got Time Montgomery in the backfield handoff to No. One. Oh,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: played by a linebacker underneath. It looked like he was
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: open born throw an arm up. He was fifty Uh
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: Julian Stanford got an arm on it. It's funny when
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: you never stumbled upon names you've heard before. I feel
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: like every name that I've been like, who's that guy?
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: Pretty much the bleak guy I knew was the guy
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: used to be on the Patriots. Yeah, Gorne broke free
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: over the middle, but the linebacker came in from the
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: opposite direction, and that is something I have a trump
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: problem with Mac down the middle defenders coming from his left.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: He doesn't see Oh freddie not happy. He has trouble.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: One defense has been good. Um, you know, for the
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: most part, could pay Jennings. Jenning's right in there, right
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: in the hole, which Paul, I feel like we haven't
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: really gotten to see much of the Patriots running backs
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: at all that much in practice, considering the offensive line issues. Yeah,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: so it's kind of nice to see what the Patriots
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: defense is able to do against the run because we
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: aren't able to have been Yeah, I mean other than
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: the one Paul said, the little cutpack there by McCaffrey. Yeah,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: they had the first run they had. I thought he
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: had a little hole for three or four yards and
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: then then they ain't got Then they stuffed McCaffrey on
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: the next one, and then I thought McCaffrey had what
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: I think would have been a pretty sizable game. Otherwise,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: since two Hubbard's been in there, that's been nothing. Montgomery
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: had a carry. Now he's in the batfield again, swallowed
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: him whole. Yeah. Now, in fairness, the Patriots aren't running
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: for anything either. Yeah, I think it's hard to I
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: think the running game is hard in practice when you're
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: not getting tackled. And I don't know, I just I
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: just think it's hard to evaluate. Oh, it all is
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: and Patre's still running a lot of their top defenders
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: out there too, So still got Darnald and the Wyer
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: in for the Patriots. Was he in for the last
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: one there? Yes? Boy, Yeah, Yeah. I thought the offense
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: looked um, you know, in tempo. I don't you know, nothing,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: nothing great or anything. I think it looked pretty. I
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: thought it looked in tempo. I thought the players came
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: off normal. It looked like it looked normal. It looked
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: like a professional offense, like like yesterday as opposed to
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: the rest the camp. Yeah in the backfield CFL Yeah,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: big red sweatshirt on, he's celebrating again. I see Terrence
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: Mitchell kind of come in right after Judean would have
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: blown it up. But you know, punching at the ball,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: he's just I think he's gonna he's gonna force some
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: turnowards this year. I got a little Jordan in the
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: fie in the backfield. Now for the Patriots, Thornton all
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: areas wi action. Ye oh, yeah, there you go. That's
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: a play to Thornton extra yards. Yak, that's what you
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: want to see. Caught it in stride coming across the
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: middle a little bit. That's a difference between making him
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: twist and turn and catch the ball behind his head.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: Did catch it in and stride yea like the same
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: thing with this play over here, although he was still
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: so open that he got a game um Arnold behind
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: the receiver, Um. And then that was Peppers out there.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: I think, no, no, it wasn't Peppers because I don't
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: see it. Maybe mack Wilson maybe. So that's the end
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: of that period. Things are moving. I think the Panthers
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: one more. Panther's offense as still still in the period,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: and it's still Donald. See what Barmore does on this one.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: Donald under center got a fullback in there. How long
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: are we going at least somebody lining up as a fullback?
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, nice job. We're sending the terback blitz not
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: buying the peers on that last play. Yeah, we got
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: a panther down. I don't like to see that little
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: blitz by Bethel off the edge blew. That play up
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: was a play action boot that the Patriots have been
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: trying to run all Paul Camp as well. Yeah, just
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: a real common kind of combination of plays with the
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: wide zone, and then the boot off of that would
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: have been a sack. Oh yeah, justin Pep would have
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: he would have gotten killed. Killed. Turn around and there's
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: Justin Bethel right in your face. All right, now, maybe
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: we got some seven I was like, we got some
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: ol O well versus d L down the far end
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: of our field, And yeah, it looks like some seven
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: on seven Maybe interesting though. I haven't seen much of
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: Hunter Henry today. It's even still up here. I saw
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: a bunch of guys in Red Jersey's going down to
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: the lower field. Yeah I don't see I don't see Henry.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: Just seen a lot more of ASIASI Sokol of course,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: John seven on seven, we got Mac in front of
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: us going up against the Panthers and should have been picked, dropped,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: should have been picked. He threw into traffic there. Yeah,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: if he's trying to get it between two two defenders,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: that really both of them could have probably picked it.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: That was Parker intended for Parker, but they were at
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: two or three Panthers in the area. Yeah, Donald little
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: passed to DJ Moore on the outside, picked up a couple.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: So on seven and seven, how do you how do
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: you get three defenders in one area? Donald did what
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: to a little little up the side to to DJ Moore? Nothing?
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: Nothing crazy? Maybe picked up five It was Mac again. Boom. Yeah.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: Oh that's the kind of the same play that Thornton
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: had to catch on earlier. Yeah. I've got some one
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: on ones going on down here too. I'm gonna try
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: to focus on some of the pictures. I think it's
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Marcus Jones. I can't see it at all. Marcus Jones, nice,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: nice PBu couldn't tell against who Not much there for
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: Lebriyan Ray Maybe Shy Smith, Ah, remember him, I liked him.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: We got Mac john Us Smith another catch. Yeah, I
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: mean we talked a lot about Johnny last summer. And
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: I mean I was as surprised as anybody that he
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: wasn't as effective as you know, it seemed like it
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: was trending towards in camp. But I feel like again
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: it's kind of a renewed effort to have him involved
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: and have him really be a piece of this offense.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: It's Shy Smith again with a catch this time. So
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: we got Myers and Parker two tight ends and Smith
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Stevenson in the background field for Mac Yeah. Oh fumble
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: FuMB yeah, as he gets it punched out after him
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: catching a little he made the catch and Hitch looked
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: like he took a step, so that probably would have
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: been ruled a fumble. He recovered it himself, but not good. Nope.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: Let see if circle makes an entrance. I don't know.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: And see Donald Darnold has been in there for a while.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: You get those battles going on, shot stuff both both fields.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: It seems yeah, us see as he's staying in there. Yeah,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a lot of a lot of
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: dump offs underneath for both sides here. It seems it
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem full speed real either. That's just the nature
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: of seven on sevens. Wow, the ramp is filling up.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: Get that. Found it interesting that Donald takes some of
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: the snaps from under center and seven on seven you
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: don't really see a lot. Oh this is scene that
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: would have been a decent game. Yea, it's a Donald
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: just seems so bad. Higgins robotics through his reads to me,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: it's just everything is like this guy, no, this guy no,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: like you just it's kind of slow, clunky. Max still going,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, Born, give me something from than three yards now,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: Stevenson underneath there's Robbie Anderson. I forgot he switched to three. Yeah.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: Now the Panthers are doing the same thing. Yeah, it's interesting, man,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: that was almost copy paste check out. Yeah. For the
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: most part, with the exception that one seam route to
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: number seventeen Richard Higgins, it's been all everything under five
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: yards both fields. Who's being carted off for the Panthers.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: It's like fifty six and six, Yeah, fifty six that
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: is Bradley. Now let dump off and Mayfield's in on
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: the other side here Bradley Boseman there there cast turn
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Pat l Elfine and Bradley Boseman either or as the starter.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: So that could be a significant injury fit I'm not.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know we're not Panthers radio here, but
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, most people other than Fred don't like
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: to see you guys get injured. Only the stars for
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: the other things. Massacrest that loves it. I get some
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: d reps here. Yeah, Mayfield is in on the farfield.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: Now for the Panthers, Max still taking the center taking
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: a snapschool not good. Wow, And there's a drop. Janno
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: got hit hard that would be an incomplete pass and
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: the ball popped loose. Who is that forty Brendan Smith.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Jano's kept his feet, but he was not expecting that
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: that type of impact ball just popped right out. Yeah.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of talk about, you know, welcoming
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: the increased intensity and competition, and it's been a couple
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: of loose, loose footballs as a results. Probably not would
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's looking to see right, Sure, And it seems
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: like we now progressed with the offensive defensive line to
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: three verse two. Oh, we got a false start. I'll
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: start by Ronnie Perkins, Ronnie, Bobby Ricky and Mike is
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: he gonna get out of a lap because it's joined practices? Otall? Oh? No,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: on the other side. You know what, look at the flags.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: There's some wind going on, and it looked like that
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: ball got held up a little bit to the inside.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: That was that was the route. He hit him a
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: couple of times on in mini cams. That's not encouraging.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: He had a step the summer. The summer wins are
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: affecting the passing game. That's not good to be Frank Sinatra, Yeah,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: well that was intentional. Guy. I don't know if you
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: know Terence Mitchell had a good break up on the
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: other side. Did you guys see it? I did not.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: It was the same time as Wolves that Maxwell going
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: over here. Yeah, hoy, dogs in man we have him with,
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: don't boss from both sides? Yeah, another fumble, jeez, I'll
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: tell you number number forty is very active. Yeah, given
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: giving Jacobe a little of the business there after knocking
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: the ball out as he was going on a bounds.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: That was a nice win there for Lebryan Ray's gonna say, yeah,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: somebody beat his man. Yep. Yeah. Trying to you know,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: trying to figure what to make of Lebrian Ray, Sam Roberts,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Henry Anderson. I think I like the idea of Henry
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: Anderson more than I've liked what's actually I've seen in camp,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: which is not much really um, but you know, Sam
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: Roberts didn't really seem much out of him during camp
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, and then he kind of
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: popped a little bit in the game, and I think
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: Lebrian Ray popped a little bit in practice, maybe not
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: so much in game. Another hard hit. Yeah, it's probably
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: incomplete pass. But I mean these are passes that are
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: in the hands and panthers are you know, using shoulders.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: They're not vicious hits or anything. The ball's coming loose,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: and that's not it's not ideal. It's get a lot
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: of what an offside going on in that offensive been defensive.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's about I think at this point you
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: need to say, Okay, they're gonna hit us, we better
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: hold onto it because it seems like the Patriots aren't
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: ready for this type of contact. You got to secure
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: the football. Wow, that was a great catch. It's not
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: Teddy again by them. Now it's Keith Kirkwood. He's just
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: swimming nineteen. Well I missed a hospital ball for yeah
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: to who will Jordan? Yeah will Jordan Humphrey? Yeah? Did
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: he catch it. Now he had to extend for it.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: Um couldn't couldn't even get his hand on it. But
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: there were two defenders right there. He would have not
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: been in good shape after that one. So we're gonna
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: go it. Who do you see who uh Kirk would
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: beat on that play? Didn't? It was Terrence Mitchell. Terrence Mitchell,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: he got him. I thought Mitchell were covered pretty well
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: but still made it to come down because I thought
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: Mitchell did a good job against the Giants on a
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: couple of deep ball opportunities. I thought he had really
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: good coverage down the field. Yeah, I thought he was.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: I thought he was beat and then it seemed like
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: he closed the gap pretty quick but not quick enough.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: T Sha boy, p J Walker out there now, Pay attention, PJ.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: This is uh matt oh? I thought that was PJ Walker?
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: Was that Mitchell? Again? Put the breaking that up? That
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: was off of seventeen s eleven? Is? PJ? Looked like
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: off seventeens? Hands? There is that seventeen? You can't tell?
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: Reflecting on these white jerseys is killing me. The Panthers
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: are squeezing out. How you got Yeah, we got got you?
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: Got you got you? I thought was pretty good play
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: by by Wade there. All right, oh double clutch. Yeah,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: it's like where you're thinking about it, like yeah, yeah,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: and one last rep here for the old line for
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: the Panthers against the D line. You maybe not see
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: what we got. We got farms and Jeremiah farms Worth
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: no reps, no reps for you, Sorry, guys, he meant
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: to macus. Yeah, that's what happens. The undrafted rookie is
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: trying to get one last RepA. You know what it
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: might be time for here eleven eleven time special teams. Yeah,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: every time for a PEPSI I was gonna say, might
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: run into the don't know, I don't know if for
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: shure you, but my guess is the Panthers will be
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: punting to the Patriots. All right, matt, let's take another
• 1:43:06
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  Speaker 1: right now. The teams are still doing some special teams
• 1:48:36
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  Speaker 1: Does like Kyle Dugger might be coming over to get
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  Speaker 1: I'm not paying attention to this crap. I'd have to
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: check with Mike Reis to make sure that was right.
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  Speaker 1: On the other field, he got a little Mac Jones
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: and Nelson eglore Worth one on one time. Yeah, here
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: comes Dugger getting a chance to return one Although this
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  Speaker 1: one doesn't look like a live rep because there was
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: no blockers, no vice, Yeah, no vice. Work done on
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: that play. Okay, you heard the horn. That's the end
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: of that session. Yeah, my guesses will get another team
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: period coming up, Freddie. Ye see, we'll see, we'll see
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: maybe some extended eleven. I'm back into some eleven on eleven.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: Perhaps Mac is walking away from us. Maybe they're gonna
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: start down the end of the field and just work
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: that way right here and matriculate the ball down the field. Boys,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: So now we might actually have some situational football. Looks
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: like they're coming toward us. Which, yeah, those those two
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: big five ninety nine, those are two big boys in
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: the inside for the Panthers. Little down and distance work here, yeah,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: just little downs and little distances or just a little
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: bit of it. He's tiring, he's tiring. Donald's going to
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: stop off this uh set for the Panthers. They field
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: hands on hips. It doesn't like it. But he's probably
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: pouting play action, play action, and after no one, no
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: one open, good coverage by the Patriots. Did you just
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: go in and out there? Yeah? Why? Why? Seemed to
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: pump his fist as if I would I would have
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: had him. Donald seemed just throws it away out of bounce,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: seeing goes Okay, I think I'm back. Then we're getting
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: all right. Here we go the side of the field. Yeah,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: a little uh is that so called? Yeah? Socoll and
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: Smith Jones under center? Is this the first play? Yeah,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't miss anything the first play drop off dump
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: dumped a soco loco. Okay, but now I noticed the
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: subtle difference right here. Did you just see what Socol
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: did after he caught the ball, held it with two hands.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: You know he was ready for the contact on that one,
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: and you know it wasn't um. It didn't come as
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: much as it did in the on the last one. Oh,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: we gotta band down. It's got to be caught. That's
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: a good I also think it was a flag. That's
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: a good throw right there, and it went right through
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson's Yeah, who was However, there's no flag, I know,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: but I think it should. He pulled his shirt as
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: you thought that, Mills pulled his shirt. Yeah, I didn't
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: see that. Yeah, as the running games still getting enough.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: As he jumped out, he tugged his sh It's a
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: little inside hand off to Damien Hair's nothing there, but
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: definitely as something to note Hunter Henry's availability and a
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: little bit of the Soco getting a little Who was
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: that inside hand off too? Was Harris nothing? Um so
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: Freddie thought that was that was mills on that coverage.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: Freddie thought there was a penalty. That's what. I didn't
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: really see anything, and you know me, I'm always criticizing
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: the officials. See this is one right here, that's I think.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: I think Judeon's there. There's a quick hand off to McCaffrey,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: but he's a slippery guy in space. I'm not sure
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: he makes that tackle. Nice slant over here from that's
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: a nice play that. I mean, that's at player right
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: Mac and from Mac to to Park or quick slant
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: you know, would have been about eight or ten yards.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: That's a that's that's Those are good drive starters. I
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: like those kinds of plays. Yep, again a little bit
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: outside of the uh, you know, usual park or what
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: you're seeing one step and catch it. Well. I was
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: like the play that he made on the first and
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: fifteen and the opener. Do you remember when Miami had
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: to get the first down at the end they get
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: the fall start it's andy. They were they played off coverage.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: You had the quick slant, it was pitching catch and
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: they got fourteen yards on on the first play. That
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: was basically the end of the game. Is a machine, folks.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. I see, I
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: mean I watched the games. I see Evan Lazzar, I
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: want to jump on. Yeah, come on over here. Oh
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: oh nice catch? Yeah. And the Panthers, uh cornerback did
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: a Jack Jones right there. He went for the pick
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: and missed it. Um, who is that is that? Twenty five? Two? Five?
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: Thirty five? Maybe it's probably thirty five? Kalin Barnes, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: Like I said, if you go for those who who
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: caught that, you know, if you go for those picks,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: you gotta get them. So Evan, can you hear us?
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: I got you? Yeah. So what do you think so far?
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: I've been impressed with Max so far. The passing, offense,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: run games not look so hot, but he's looked pretty
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: sharp here today, one of his better days, throwing the
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: ball in eleven on elevens. I'd say so far. Evan
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: one of our newer additions to the Patriots, and he's
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: covered the team all year, will be traveling to every game,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: so he'll be your eyes and ears and your writing
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: for all the games. Any differences between I think so
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: far the practices are structure wise pretty much the same. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: pretty much the same structure. I think what's great about
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: these is you can just have so much going on
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: at once. You can have eleven on elevens on separate fields,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: and all the starters are now getting reps for both
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: teams just against you know, the other opponents. So I
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: think that the amount of volume that you can get
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: to the first time the pockets really broken down on Mac. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: there seemed like a little bit of the two on
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: two drills we saw earlier as well at Patriots O
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: line versus the Carolina up front. Some of those stunt
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: schemes passing those things off and the twists upfront that
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: they run have been giving them some problems, which this
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: point in camp with the communication and not playing a
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: ton of reps next to each other and things like that.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: It's not a major surprise, but that's been the one
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: thing I've seen the Patriots A line have some issues
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: with today. And what about the drops. A couple of
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: hard impacts by Panthers and all resulting in drops by
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. It seems like they weren't ready for it. Yeah,
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: I wonder how much they were prepared for that in
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: seven on sevens to have live contact in some of
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: those situations, versus not not making excuses for him. But
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: you never know what they're being told is contact level,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: and then people are lowing shoulders into them and stuff
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: like that. Another looked like a coverage sack or coverage
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: play there and Mac had to take off. This is
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: what we were talking about at the beginning of the show,
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: the decisiveness. Are guys getting open as Max seeing them?
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: Is he getting rid of the ball on time? And
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: that one he had to pull it down and run. Yeah,
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: this set of elevens hasn't been as smooth as the
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: first one. I mean, I think they're trying to get
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: the ball down field a little bit in this one,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: whereas everything was kind of a dump off with the
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: exception of the jump all to Parker and the first one,
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: I thought everything was kind of a dump off. Yeah,
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: I think they're han't. I think you're right about the
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: fensive line and Evans probably right about some of the
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: combinations and in communication at nice play over on the
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: other field by Anthony Jennings there blowing up a screen
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: on the last play too. And the Patriots coverage has
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: been pretty good over there. I think that the Parthers
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks have consistently had to look for a second a
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: second option, second read. There's a good throw and catch
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: boy Christian Wilkerson. Mac hits Wilkerson on a little uh. Yeah,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: that was a nice little bumping after the play. Why
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: Caroline is a little feisty blood. I think you're seeing shoulders.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: I think you said Terrence Mitchell with the punch too.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: I mean they're they're playing. I mean, it's it's it's
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: it's the referees are out here and they're trying to
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: knock the ball loose. I like it. I like it,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: Matt coming out of I mean there's no tackling, Yeah,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: but there's definitely some shoulders, as Paul said, shoulders and punches.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: You know that the the on both sides that they're
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: going after the ball. Yeah, lawyers. Now, uh at quarterback
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: for the Patriots, you're talking about the Patriots coverage. Jalen
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: Mills has gone up against Robbie Anderson pretty much the
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: entire practice and is had to Anderson's number to this
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: point in one on ones and in eleven on eleven's
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: I think big question mark going into the years how
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: that Patriots cornerback room is gonna look. And we've seen
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: John Jones play more on the outside and Marcus Jones,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: the rookie kick inside, Mills has held his own. I
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: thought this was one of the bigger matchups I had
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: written about before practice, was how the Patriots were going
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: to handle Robbie Anderson, DJ Moore and Matt Panther's passing
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: game and other quarterbacks have been a little bit shaky
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: for Carolina and Camp, but those are two legitimate thousand
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: yard receivers in the NFL, And so far, Mills has
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: looked really really good in coverage against Robbie Anderson. Bayfield's
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: at quarterback now for the Panthers, not much there in
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: the run of the Patriots. The run game has still
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: looked a little bit disjointed. It had one reasonably productive
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: run play that I've seen, and that was like four yards.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: Like there was a little bit of a hole off
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: the left guard on a play that Damian I think
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: Damien Harris had Yeah, and there was actually a holding
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: call on that. Oh really, I don't want to say
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: it was that. I didn't even know that. I'm not
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure who it was. I don't want
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: to single everybody out, but if you were to single
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: someone on who might have who bloo, where would you
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: be in the vicinity of This was a nice little
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: play they had. They leaked out jj Tao in the flat.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: There was nobody out here with him. That would have
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: been a twenty twenty plus yard game. Well, and the
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: play before this one, it looked like Mayfield ran a
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: little mini statue of liberty play. He like looked like
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: he was about to pass. The ball was down by
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: his waist and then he had an inside handoff and
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: then did he did he flat that into the guy's hand. Yeah,
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: so that was a high pass. Well, no, it wasn't
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: a high pass by Mayfield, but the Patriot and Hawkins
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: was right in position for it. Yeah, tipped it went
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: right into the intendive receiver, right right. I was a
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: weird play, Brian Horrigan. The blitz off that gets it
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: out though, Thornton, Yeah, send a slot blitz at him. Yeah,
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: they haven't dialed it up a ton yet Carolina phil
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: Snow their defensive coordinators is known for blitzing their third
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: in the league last year and blitz rate, and they
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: come after quarterbacks, So they haven't done a ton of
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: that yet in eleven on elevens. I wonder if tomorrow
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: I saw that last year with the Giants joined practices
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: at the first practice was a little bit more basic,
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: and the second practice they started to spend the dial
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit more on the quarterbacks. So maybe we'll
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: see that more tomorrow. But it's it's been a relatively
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: clean pocket until the last couple of eleven on eleven
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: reps for Mac that we just saw Mayfield by the Patriots.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: They just I think the coverage has been pretty good
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: for the Patriots consistently, although they got a lot of
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: secondary players. I just think I keep noticing Pepper's presence
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: too in the middle of the defense. It's just he
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: he has an energy to him that I don't know
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: how they're gonna figure that all out, but he just
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: he just seems to I don't know what the word
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for is, he just seems that he's out
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: there and he's bringing the Yeah, let's bring it some energy, Okay,
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: it looks like we're riversiding it. Offense is going to
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: move away from us. Now, it looks like Mac going
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: back in good. That's safety group when you have McCaffrey,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: who I think has been a little bit managed his
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: rights here in this practice so far as this stretching, Hey,
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: when you look at some of the safety combinations that
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: they can have when they do pay play. Team's good
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: tight ends, good pass catching backs like McCaffrey, you could
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: see for safeties on the field at once, and some
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: of these packages, especially if the corners don't really emerge.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: So I'm with you on that. One day, Belichick before
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 1: practice said that they had good depth right now at
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: safety and spot on Obviously that that's really been the case.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: All right, Mac back at quarterback? Whoa nice play by
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: the Panther defender. Yeah, felt like Yadney could ue Jeremy China.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: That was to Myers, But again ball could have been
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: there a little quick maybe. Yeah, it's credit to Chinny
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: jumped it and he got in front of it, but
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: it's looked like he felt the pressure. Brian Burns was
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: not again long arming. Yachtney could used into the into
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: the pocket there, and I think mac kind of shied
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: away from that a little bit coverage. Again on the
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: other field, Darnald had a ground it. Yeah, yeah, I agree, Freddy.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: It was a it was an attempted screen that they
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: had sniffed out Jones dropping back sideline who that could
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: have been? And it was a flat. I think this
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: one was a penalty. But again just absolutely no separation.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: Yea uh C. J. Henderson, I think it's called for
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: that one. That was to Myers again, that was okay. Well,
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: it seems more and more like a Max got nothing.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: Throwing it up to Parker is becoming his h go
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: to We'll swing past to McCaffrey. Nice job by Bentley. Yeah,
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: that's a tough that's a tough matchup. That's a that's
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: another one like in practice, that's a great play. Let's
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: see if he ends up on the ground exactly. That's
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: the thing with McCaffrey is that you can closing down
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: on him and a little swing past out of that
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: same thing here, fifty five is all right, a reltated
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: in space with Stevenson for a two yard game unless
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: he breaks the tackle right, which which I think is
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: a really good possibility in the NFL, these guys in
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: space is not a sure thing, right. You know It's
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: like you remember that play and you'll yell at me
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: again for being a machine. Remember the play early in
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo game last year. And then they threw with
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: a little swing to to Devin Singletary and high time
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: was right there and he ends up with a twelve
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: yard game. You know, it's it's it's one thing to
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: have the coverage. Who who Jay Jones drop a lot
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: of drops on deep balls with the Panthers. Let's tell
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: you who's that twelve takes Higgins? I thought it was seventeen.
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: But again, notice how the ball that drifted out of bounds.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: That's what's supposed to be over the outside shoulder. But
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: look at the wages inside, look at the wind. I
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: think it affected it. I think he dropped it. I
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: think he's seeing ghosts. Oh, seeing ghosts, sorry, seeing ghosts?
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: There is I like what you're doing. High Let's see
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: got mac Oh someone got killed Trent Brown? Oh? No,
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: oh when you sorry? We got a tackle? When you
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: just got Oherson involved in a little scuffle and wow,
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: he's got he got plowed over. So what happened is?
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: I like the referee throwing the flame. Thanks. Wilkerson made
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: the catch but got tackled Bill Like all those guys
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: running across the field right here, he took exception to
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: that Wilkerson. Uh, you know, in front of the Panthers.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: Just so we got twenty five is throwing punches and
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: and Wilkerson just got mauled. And this is still going on, folks. Wow,
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: And Farrens is the whole restraining Damien. The whole team
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: is coming over now from the other fields. Yeah, it's
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: not good. This is not good. This all started because
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: Wilkerson got tackled and didn't like it and started drawing
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 1: with the Panthers, and then things you know, escalated from there. Yeah.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 1: I just sent Trump round over there. That's Paul. I
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: think you saw who was swinging for the Panther. I
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: didn't send Kendrick Bourne was swinging for the Patriots, going
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: back at That's what happens when you don't practice against
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: anybody for two and a half weeks and then they
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: throw him out. Jennings. Yeah, and Anthony Jennings is very
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: very animated right now, Like I I don't know, I
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: wish I had I wish I had a replay, it's
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: like Bill's getting the rundown from the amber, like he
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: just got tackled. He did, he did. It didn't look
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: like it was like this vicious play or anything. No,
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: but it was more than what we've seen. It was
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: both guys went to the ground. Yeah, but I mean,
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: that's that happens. But you're not supposed to do that.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: So it happened on the first play. The streamage on
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: the running play that that guys went to the ground.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: Oh that's different. That's different. This is in the open field.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: So you know, Wilkerson, you know, I think there's an
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: over reaction. Wilkerson declared his is not liking it, and
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: the whole Panthers team just mauled him. Yeah, it was
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: the second like level of energy that kind of went
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: through it. That was surprising to me. Usually it's like
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: a little scuffle to start, but yeah, it seems like
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: it got a little bit more intense, still sending Wilkerson
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: to the locker room. Oh he a born, yeah, born,
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: You were right, Evan, you get born born in twenty four?
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: Was it? They said twenty five for twenty five for
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: the Panthers. I saw they were they were squaring up
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: and there's a there's a panther going to the locker
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: room too. I don't know. I can't see the number
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: because it's it's a twenty. It's probably twenty five, yeah,
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: but I can't twenty five, I think. Yeah, okay, yea,
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: So twenty five eighty four seventeen locker room. Yeah, I
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: mean that's the that's the drawback of the joint practices.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: We seem to see one of those more often than
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: not in these uh in these practices. Remember the big
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: one with Chicago several years ago, Freddie. Yeah, but I'm
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: with you part that wasn't necessary to have that type
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: of scot I mean so white. That was unnecessary on
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: all parts. I'm not blaming the Patriots and I'm not
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: blaming the Panthers. I think I think it's unnecessary. Yeah,
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: you got tackled, Okay, maybe you weren't supposed to get tackled.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: Now you got a standover him, and like check your
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: man who'd at the doors? Right? And I and I
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: felt you got the pats is like seventeen of you
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: there and one guy for the Patriots. Okay, so we
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: yelled something that was disrespectful, oh snap, And that should
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: have been caught deep ball Terrence Mitchell for the Pats. Yeah,
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: that's it. Oh, is that terrorist Marshall too? I like him.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: Parker's wide open. The ball was low. He had to
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: go to the ground for it, but he caught it.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: We still got some We still got some scuffling going
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: on on the offensive line. I picked someone other than
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: Trent Brown though, that's for sure. We gotta get control
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: of this. This is not productive, guys. We're here to practice. Oh,
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, I go yelling Fred, let's see
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: what we gotta ware? Is it nine? Yes? Is that?
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know? To make Baker Mayfield still and over
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: on the other side, Baker's taken a lot of the
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: true first team reps over there for Carolina. There we go. Oh,
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: were the middle too born? I wish I could clock
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: Cold Strange in that whole matter, because he seems like
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: someone who would like unnecessarily go running into something like
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: did you see that right there? There was? They tried
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: to find us, you guys, I think that's I think
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 1: it's Carl Davis. No, No, it's a quality Daniel quality
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: is on the pile. You know, well after the play
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: is over and he's grabbing for the ball, ripping for
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: the ball, like, I think that extra business. Just but
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 1: you're playing like I mean, you're playing against another team.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: You gotta be prepared for that. Like, I don't think
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: a quality did anything wrong there. You see Peppers in
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: the middle of the nice catch. Yeah, Yeah, Jacobe has
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: been consistent, that's for sure. I would I would say
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: he's been the best receiver. That was a good twenty
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: yard game for Myers. Not a wide open guy missed.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: That's a nice interior pass off there as well. By
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: On when you and David Andrews in the middle there,
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: I think it was keep Mac clean, keep him clean,
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: crowd delighting in all this a delighting, the lighting I
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: didn't know that there could be a verbal just kind
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: of provides him, you know, spiritus, what are you doing,
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: I'm delighting. Bowyer's there and he's yeah, passes tiptop balls
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: to the ground. But that could have been dangerous. Is
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: that Howyer's first play? Mac through the ball sires, Yes,
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: that's correct, and they feel back to pass and he
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: would have gotten smoked by Josh Blitzoe and to the
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: other side. Did you just overthrew? And that's that's Mayfield's
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: m when he's off, he's high. Yeah you know, k
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: I mean the ball's high, not him. But who's to
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: say you never know? Right, have you seen any of
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: those progressive comings, boyor under center? Oh and that run
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: never went anywhere. See there's another extra polish Yeah yeah,
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: yeah at the backups, all right, see Baker Mayfield quick,
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: he's he is way boy. If I'm covering the Panthers,
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just happy with their offense. He is way off. Yeah,
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 1: I mean they both are patriot The Patriots offense has
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: been better than the Panthers offense. I would say that's
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: Jack Jones there at the past break up. Yeah, that
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: was that was thrown way behind him. It was like
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: Jack Jones was the intended receiver. It's like, I don't
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: know who's worse. Donald er Doc. There's another sack. That's
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: another that's a bad pass. And we got we gotta
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: flag on the play as well. Oh and we have
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: another scuffle. I don't see how it started, but teams
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: are the guys are piled up on the out of
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: bounds on the pants sideline. This one I didn't see
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: starting to Freddy. Yeah, it comes where the Farrens lost
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: his helmet. Arlington hambrikes looks like he has Farrens's helmet
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: in his hand. Anyone gonna get tossed on this one.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: I don't seem like they broke that one up pretty quick.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: But man, do you wonder I mean, what time? What
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: time we got here? I know, no, are we gonna
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: Is there like gonna be a competitive like ramp up portion?
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: Because then I worry. See if I was, I would
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: with Matt and rule and uh Bill, like bring both
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: teams together and say guys, enough, yeah enough, I would agree.
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: But the Panther's defense, they sure seem playing with a
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 1: bad attitude today. I don't know if that's a good
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: or bad the pit depending on your point of view,
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 1: but they certainly seem like they're This one looked like
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: it Heatriots involved in pants. The whole the whole offensive
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 1: line was over here in the sideline, and I'm thinking
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: to myself, how did that happen? Do you know what
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: I mean? How did how did the Patriot's offensive line
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: get all the way over to the left sideline? Yeah,
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: looked like Hambright was finishing a blind and might have
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: finished the guy, you know, blind side style. Michael or
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: into the into the bench there and then that started
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: things from there. Yeah, they are. They're getting some conversations
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: going on in the other field, Freddy, Which is funny
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: because they're not fighting over there, right, the Patriots defense
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 1: and the Panthers offense hasn't really fought maybe because and
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: none of the throws by the Panthers quarterbacks have been
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 1: anywhere into anybody, right, and why are we fighting the
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: balls on the ground all the time? Thornton with a
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: nice sideline catch, held onto it, good shot. He's made
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: some plays in eleven's today, a couple catches. I think
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 1: he continues to get better. Um, he consistently gets opened.
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 1: I like what I've seen. I like him working out
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: of the spot. Now they're talking to the Panthers defense
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: over here and the Patriots offense. Yeah, they got to
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: get this under control of that. It's gonna be a
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: long last half hour or so forty five minutes whatever
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: they have left. Right, Well, that's like what else is
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: not tapped? I mean, how much more physicals are gonna
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: get That's I mean, they're rolling the the play clock
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 1: over so I mean it seems like any of this
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: is kind of hold over from earlier Paul, we saw
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 1: some shoulders being thrown and loose balls by the Patriots.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: Could be maybe that's what Will Wilkerson took exception to.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: You know, you guys been popping us and now you're
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: tackling me. Yeah, Ferren's is being sent to the the
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: locker room. Let's also not forget the matchup last season
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: Brian Burns and Mac Jones and Chippy. There's some bad
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: blood from some of these players. For sure, Mac try
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: to break his leg off Psycho, but I can just
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: imagine if that was like Christian barm we got his
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: leg held like that, what Freddy would say. Yeah, now
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: the entire Parents team is over and uh in a
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 1: big huddle while the Patriots are in between fields, with
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: the exception of the don't now everybody's gonna go back older. Yeah,
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 1: I would think you're gonna do some two minutes before
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: you wrapped this up, right, Yeah? Yeah, I saw them
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: Will on the playcock over. So yeah, so both teams
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: are in a big huddle, each team in their own
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: not well him, looks like we might get I gotta
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: lead some real competitive due Looks like this could be
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: just a reset for both teams don't fight, should we
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 1: finger wag? No fighting? No fighting? But yeah, I would
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 1: hope that this would be uh not live but yeah.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: I mean generally these um joint practices kind of conclude
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 1: with with how we up work at least two of them,
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: you know. I think Mac would lead one and Hoyterer
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: would lead one, and then the Panthers would probably have,
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 1: you know, two sets of their own. Kendrick Bourne, I
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: didn't have him for a seems more like a lover
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: than a fire. He's quick to defend his team. Yeah,
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: he went, he went flying over. He's had a quiet camp. Yeah,
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: that's what you know. We were talking about that a
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 1: little early on. You know, it's that's just the function
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: of what camp is, what they're trying to do. You know.
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: He doesn't really like once game plans start happening, then
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: they really that's when it's his time to shine. Freddy.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 1: Can you see Belichick in the middle of the medal talking.
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: Is his head going up and down? I can't tell. No,
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: I just saw the hands go out in the head
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: go back. Yeah. Look, fellas, we gotta get out of work,
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: and we can't get out working up. We're gonna do this. Yeah,
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: he's he's definitely uh yeah, he's given him what for.
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 1: I just left the referees. They's the fight, like there's
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 1: a fight going on. I gotta tell you though, in case,
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 1: in case Al river Run is watching, that'll stop it. Yeah,
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 1: I as as as a youth hockey rephor no. When
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 1: I have to ref games and that kind of chaos
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: breaks loose, it is just no fun. So stressful trying
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 1: to find which numbers are doing what and who started
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 1: it and who's retaliating and you know who won't let
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 1: it go and can't break up. It's just a yeah,
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 1: I can imagine that's going to like break out a notepad,
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 1: start jotting down like twenty five white sixteen, So they're
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: gonna start at the twenty five yard line. So now
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: Belichick is out and now it's the team, just the
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 1: team that looks like Judon is talking um. And now
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: the team breaks up. Yeah, they go so Patriots on offense.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: So the roar of the crowd. This is what we've
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 1: been waiting for all camp though. Coaches on the sideline,
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: roll the ball out and let's see what this actually
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: looks like. This is it in a live now we're
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: one field Patriots offense versus Carolina defense. To start Mac
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 1: Jones under center first and ten from the twenty five
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: twelve personality tight ends and there we go quick snap
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 1: and release another quick slant to Parker. So what do
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: you think? Huh? Like you like that? We errupt everybody
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: who else's broadcast as usual? Let me get a mic
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: on him. No one can hear him. Well, they're doing
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 1: one of their many breaks. They have a lot of breaks,
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of breaks. They they make, you know, money. Yeah,
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 1: um yeah, So second, now there still no Hunter Henry right, yeah,
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: back on the centers and Smith mm hmm not much geez,
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 1: looks like a need in the head almost there. Yeah,
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 1: but he fell into it. I mean I didn't like it, Freddy, No,
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I saw yeah, I'm just kidding.
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 1: I just didn't want him to be concussed. Just want
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: to be accurate here, No, you were nothing but accurate, Fredd.
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: I say that the run game is still yeah, not
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: getting much going for the Patriots. I mean, Harris motions in.
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 1: It's like man coverage going up to Parker and he's
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: got it. There we go down the sideline to Parker.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: He high points it in the safety was like getting there,
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: but I don't think the safety had much chance anyway.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: We saw that on this field earlier too, when he
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: gets that one on one man coverage to Parker. He's
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: just thrown been the two best plays that they've had up.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: So that was what a like twenty five yard game
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, yeah, so this is not
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 1: what I was hoping for. This is just situational down
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: in distance. It's not a bass at the thirty two minutes,
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 1: you know, floting out there, back steps up, down the
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: sideline again, flag down. I think he might have oh no,
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 1: hold on the Panthers. Yeah, I thought he might have
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: him one on both because I thought the other guy
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 1: like a little push. I thought the other guy was
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 1: gonna call the Panthers guy. Yeah, no, he's got holding
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: in interference on the Panthers. That's good. I like it.
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: Who was that down the sideline? Algalore? Ye, I couldn't
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: tell who the penalties were on sports A buzz a
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 1: buzz at the playmaking of the Patriots. Who all right,
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: we got back back to page zone screen nothing nothing,
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 1: a little uh grounds crew note. Up until recently, these
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 1: practice fields weren't full one hundred yard fields. Just like
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks they they extended it
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 1: and now they're they're full size. We're seeing them use
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: that those pre snap shifts though coverage indicate and he's
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 1: just making these decisions almost pre snap of where he's
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: going with the football. I mean, I don't want to
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: overstate it, but I just feel like the last couple
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 1: of days it just felt a little bit more like
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: what we're used to seeing from Mac in terms of, oh,
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: try another high point with Parker, but I can't get
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: around and up on it. No shot. What number is that?
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: Is that? JC? Horn? Who do? Yeah? Yeah, I love
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: so Bill's talking to the ref get a ruling on that.
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: Make sure you call hold on this. Yeah, it's still
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 1: pretty good. Like just rotation, Daming, Harris, Stevenson and Montgomery.
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: They seem like the top three. See there's another example.
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 1: Now fifty three is there? He sniffs it out. I
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 1: don't think he makes that tackle in the game. Yeah,
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: tough to you know, he does one of those you know,
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: practice things where you tap the guy in the hip. Yeah,
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 1: like I got him, I got you. You got like
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 1: a fingernail on yeah, I don't think you had him
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 1: knock on Wood, but no pre snap penalties yet. Well
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 1: they did have a delayed game, Okay that counts. Yeah,
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: seeing John U pretty involved carrying the football. I don't
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 1: know how much I can give away there. But between
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 1: the lines come that one. Well we're just talking about
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 1: the plays. Yeah, it's just you can see it coming
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 1: trying to hit. It's almost deep down sale concept of Yeah,
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 1: and I think it's sailed on him a little bit.
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 1: So max out Horriors in. It's good to see him
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: try to push the ball down the field today, though
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 1: this is the first time I would say maybe all
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: summer that we've seen him consistently. This is what all
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: spring everything down the field. Yeah, the Nixon passes, like
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 1: I think that throw is is more of a let's
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: see if I can get it there type throw us
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 1: a take a mental note for no, he can't, I'm
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 1: done with this boy. So I was gonna say, do
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 1: you think that that ball took too long to get there?
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 1: I mean yes, but I also think it just it
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: was one of those places where everybody could kind of
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 1: see where it was going. It just felt like the
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 1: corner who dropped off I think he might have been
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 1: his zone, just seemed to turn his hips and see
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 1: exactly where it was going to. It was just the
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: question of was he gonna pick it or break it up.
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 1: They had read that play earlier in practice and they
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 1: hit Myers on it on the corner route on the saale,
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 1: and I think that the Panthers are pretty ready for
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 1: it the second time I saw it. We're coloring out play,
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: calling out the mic toss right, they had some they
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: had some yardage there. Yeah. Time Montgomery I think has
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 1: looked good on those on those sweeps, tosses anything to
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 1: the outside when if he can get the edge, he
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: had the edge, good block by socle he's been I
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: mean him and Assisi with Henry seemed like a light
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 1: day for him. It's uh. I don't know if either
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 1: one of them have have a real chance, but they
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 1: been getting more involved. Could be a guy you keep
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 1: on the practice squad in case somebody gets hurt and
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 1: elevate him if necessary. I don't know. It's an opportunity
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 1: today for Assias. I just I don't know if he's
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 1: taking advantage of it. Though Warriors passed batted down. That's
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 1: happened a handful of times to both quarterbacks. See Carolina
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 1: plays so much of that four deep zone, it's pretty
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 1: difficult to complete passes down the field against that coverage. Evan,
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 1: would you say, like, when you see that, it's up
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: to the quarterback to call out of the plane, go
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 1: underneath right or you want to try to work the linebackers. Yeah,
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 1: underneath the defense and hit that that throw on the
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 1: shorter second me you know, intermediate level, first, second level.
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 1: But Carolina, a lot of teams now are playing these
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 1: split safety four deep coverages because of all the Shanahan
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 1: influence around the league. Everything is trying to hit the
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 1: deep crossers and post routes and things like that down
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: the middle of the field. So you have the two
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 1: safeties there to leverage it. All. Right, So now we
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 1: switch up and the Panthers go on offense. See what
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 1: the Patriots defense has got today here? So yeah, the
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 1: usual suspects were Kua, McMillan, Jawan Bentley, Big Jude On
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 1: and yeah, Jonathan Jones continues to know, rep outside will
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: that be in every game? Thing? Is that a matchup thing?
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 1: It does feel like it gets your best cover guys
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 1: on the field. Certainly, speed right o dug on a blitz. Boy. Yeah. Boy.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 1: If I was a Panther fan, I'd be that. Mayfield
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: just kind of waggled out and nowhere near his receiver. Oh,
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 1: he was covered and also had him blanket. I think
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 1: he's throw it away. Yeah. The coverage has been good. Yeah,
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 1: I think the coverage has been pretty solid. Yep, the
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 1: same group. I just wondered Whis and Anderson, some of
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 1: the younger guys, if there's any opportunity for that spot.
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 1: It would seem like, why is is kind of embedded there?
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 1: There we go? Nice nice play there? Who was that
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 1: that tuned that up shop? Gotcha jumped on his back? Yep,
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 1: it's a good play coming from the backside. Ye. It's
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 1: a quick hand off by Mayfield and that was blown up.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: That's what you look for from Judean set that that
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 1: edge on the play side, though, because that's what allows
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 1: god show to come in in, which he really struggled
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 1: at in the second half of last year especially. But
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 1: he he was exactly the opposite of what I thought
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 1: heading into the season. I thought that's what his strength was,
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 1: and then he occasionally got to the quarterback and it
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 1: turned out he was basically just a pass rusher last
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 1: year and had had trouble setting the edge. I got picture,
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 1: it's a little pass rush package here at barmore and zero. Yeah,
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 1: Miles Bryant, Robert Kyle Dugger unblocked would have had yeah
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 1: sacked there. Yep. I think both teams have done a
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: good job of staying away from quarterbacks even when they
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 1: like they haven't even gone over and wrapped them up.
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 1: They've just sort of gotten in and then gotten away.
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 1: I think. So there's no like deflection off like an
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 1: arm or hand hitting a helmet by you know, inadvertently.
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 1: That has to be a mandate stay away from their quarterback.
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 1: Although I am a little intrigued by the amount of
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 1: blitzing the Patriots have done. Yep. Yeah, they sent Ugger
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 1: a couple of times. There's another one. Yeah, well that
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 1: was wise. How does yea? How does wives get in
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 1: unblocked down? And that was a nice catch, even though
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have been in a real game. But I
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 1: don't trot that eight eight sixteen sixteen zolstro he's asking
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 1: out too, he's hurt. Yeah, he's now, he's down on
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 1: the knee. We landed on the ball. Or something. Yeah,
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 1: it's funny because Caroline has invested a lot into this
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 1: offensive line. Drafted at quenty sixth overall, the Patriots defensive
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 1: line is pretty much dominated this practice in the trenches,
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 1: just like they did in Came last year. So this
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: is looks about the same. Oh oh oh, okay, all right,
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 1: nothing happened and he suffice you though. I mean Panthers
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: like that plays the Panthers sideline exploded when he scored
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 1: it through. I think that's that's the reality of Christian
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey is. And in these practices, like you were saying, Paul,
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 1: like you know guys and tap him on the butt
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 1: and be like, no, I got him. It's like it
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 1: is one thing to tap him on the butt, but
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: bringing that guy down in space, now, I don't think
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 1: that was a touchdown by any mil but but that
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 1: was a good game. Yeah. I think they pushed the
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 1: pile back on that play. He's just so quick, you know,
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 1: like he just he gets he's quick and strong. Yeah,
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 1: he just he stays up, he keeps his legs moving.
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: It's got great balance, kind of floats a little bit. Yeah,
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 1: he's got these the complete package, that's for sure. Mayfield.
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: Shoot again. Yeah, there they their receivers have been consistently
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 1: opened down the field the whole day. That's the first
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 1: one they were able to get there. But it was
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: that they got that was Jonathan Jones. I believe I
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 1: got beat by Is that Anderson or or more? He's
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 1: that two or three more? Yeah, Well, I don't know
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 1: what Jones. The ball was up there. I thought he'd
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 1: had plenty of time to get back, but looked like
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 1: he would have had the deep third and the receiver
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 1: came from the other side, And that's a tough play
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 1: when you're not used to playing on the outside to
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 1: get your eyes back inside and look for that receiver
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 1: coming over from the back side of the formation. So
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 1: that's one that as he plays more on the outside,
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 1: you would hope that he would be able to have
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 1: that awareness to see that route. Yeah, darld In, Yeah,
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 1: Alta and jeez, even if they didn't fumble a snap,
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 1: it looked like Anthony Jennings highway right to Yeah. That
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 1: was another one where the Patriots came in untouched. It's
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 1: a little more extracurriculars on the Panthers sideline. Jalen Mills
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 1: doing a lot of yapping. Yeah, very animated the Panthers, though,
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots sidelines heems a little more subdued,
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 1: but they they seem Yeah, everything is happening Panther sideline.
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 1: I will say that I think it was that night
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 1: in the seaport last night. I think got him riled up. Yeah,
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 1: takes after their coach, that right, Temple Meal, former offensive
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 1: line Temple absolutely Donald again, there was a big hole. Yeah,
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 1: somebody fell now that one actually may have been a touchdown. Yeah,
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 1: he was fifteen yards before any Patriot touched him. Panthers
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: had the edge of the last couple of plays up
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 1: up front. Yeah, starting with that that play, Paul where
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 1: you said they pushed the line really well for McCaffrey.
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 1: They've been they've been winning since then. Yeah. I did
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 1: get some backups in now though too. Yeah, although godcha
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: was the guy that they pushed back on the McCaffrey play.
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 1: So the good one. I think this is Jack Jones
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 1: against DJ Moore. I think that's him checked ump underneath
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 1: there's a oh okay, oh, a couple of shoulders thrown
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 1: by the Patriots there, but no reaction, no reaction. Yeah,
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 1: I think both teams should have got a little son
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 1: with the Patriots side line. Yeah, I don't know who.
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 1: This is a lot of talking, a lot, a lot
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 1: of a lot of John just makes you wonder just
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 1: you know, the Panthers just don't have any class. You
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 1: know class. I was waiting for it. It took a
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 1: while before he got there. You come into our home
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 1: and then you fight us, show us no respect. Darnald's
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 1: still in. I don't know how to make sense of
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 1: this Panther's quarterback competition. It's just, yeah, I don't think
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 1: either one. Don't know who's worse. It's been overly impressive.
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 1: There's another not a good pass rush who just tripped
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 1: across the fielding. Yeah, jumps out. If the guy wants to, ye,
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 1: he wasn't. But if the guy wants to keep running
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 1: like that, you don't have to throw a shoulder and
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 1: don't let him run. Gets start start throwing stiff arms
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 1: out like right, just just let him go. That's where
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 1: the problems happen. Maybe maybe Freddy can get a couple
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: of minutes with Bill and Hill. Let him know what
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 1: the problem, how the problem is what it started? It
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 1: starting Panthers and they're bad attitudes alright, diamond blitz. Okay,
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 1: all right, all right, okay, see now he's see there
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 1: we go. So the play's over and he's still running
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 1: and the Patriots throw his shoulder into him. It's like,
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 1: who you know, m Yeah, I'm losing interest. What's what's
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 1: the backups? Starting? Many backups? It is noontime, Yeah, and
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking to myself, you know, probably gonna get
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 1: field goals, it's probably still a long way to go.
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 1: Just to shout out to Claire ryanizo's in there, Claire,
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 1: unless she's excited. I don't think they were trying to
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 1: get a screen going there say they can't get the
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 1: screen game going. It's a nice played by mack Wilson.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 1: They've tried to get the screen two or three times. Actually,
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 1: both teams that I think have struggled trying to get
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 1: the screens going on. All right, mostly the Panthers that Carrio.
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 1: It is over. Let's see what they got here. We
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 1: see any of the caps coming one, kickers and punchers,
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 1: all right, special teams coming up. So we're not going
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 1: to get two minute that might be fit tomorrow. Paul
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 1: that last period, though he saw mac wilson right on
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 1: a checkdown then blow up a screen. Those are the
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 1: coverage plays. Hey, you're hoping that he's going to bring
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 1: to the table this year that maybe some of their
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 1: linebackers of the past we're not, well, yeah, we're not
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 1: as quick to that. I just I'm just starting to
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 1: wonder with a guy like him and a guy like Barmore,
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 1: are they gonna be relegated to smaller roles than maybe
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 1: another defense might employ them in. You know, and you
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 1: talk about like Jay Jones being speed out there, Marcus
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 1: Jones being speed out there, Like if you really wanted
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 1: a fast lineup for every down, you could do it.
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 1: I just don't know how much they're gonna run of,
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 1: you know, Carl Davis, Lawrence, Guy, Dietrich Wise that that front.
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 1: You know. It's it's just I just hope they're not
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 1: getting torched on first and second down because they're still
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 1: big and slow on those. I'm with you on bar Moore.
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know what else much more Wilson can provide
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 1: than than as a sub sub linebacker. And I mean,
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 1: I know there's a spot for rotation. I'm totally with you.
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 1: I think he's an every down player. But yeah, maybe
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 1: they're just gonna work him into that. Yeah, yeah, they're
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 1: gonna have field goals at both ends here, Panthers down
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 1: the far end, Nick Folk, everybody here from a from
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 1: twenty eight yards from the left hand snap all down,
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 1: kick is up and true. That's my play by play
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 1: on field goals. Know if I've shared that with you,
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 1: Pop soci've been to watch out now. That's the swing
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 1: of the right leg. I had a swing of the
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 1: right leg. There's so many matchups this year, though, where
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 1: the opponent has the ability to put so much speed
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 1: on the field offensively, especially thinking Week one in Miami.
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 1: You gotta put some of these more athletic linebackers on
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 1: the field in that matchup, otherwise they're gonna get a
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 1: run right off the field. I think you missed that
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 1: one would help if the referee gave us a signal.
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 1: There's definitely a weird brought here. You might as well
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: give us a little something. The banners at the top
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: of the uprights are not moving on this end, and
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 1: on the far end they are. Yeah yeah, Panther's kicker
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 1: just kicked it into that far end and the ball
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 1: when hard right into the wind. See I I you know,
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 1: I always talking about it. Evan, I think got a
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 1: couple of passes earlier. I think the wind affected some
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 1: of them. I think it's a sneaky wind. It seems
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 1: like when they were throwing it towards the back Yeah,
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: the practice fields. Yeah, that's where that wind. It's probably
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit more removed from the stadium itself. Here,
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 1: this is probably blocking it a little bit. Yep in
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 1: this end yep. Yeah, from fifty from the right, Hash
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 1: drives plenty of distance, and it's good. You still got
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 1: it h overall offensive. You've got to be pretty happy
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 1: the way this win for the page today. I think.
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 1: So I really am negative. What didn't you like? I
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 1: just thought I was okay. I didn't think there was
• 2:39:09
  Speaker 1: really anything special. I thought there was a lot of
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 1: short completions and a couple of jump balls that DeVante
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 1: Parker and I thought Myers was good. I thought some
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 1: of the intermediate routes that they threw were on time
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 1: where they were supposed to be. That those are the
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 1: types of things that you're hoping for. Some more, some
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 1: more talk with Judean and the entirety of the Panthers organization. See,
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 1: you don't not expect to be in the middle of that.
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 1: That seems like his cup of tea. But that seems
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 1: like Christian Wilkerson. I think I've heard him say forwards,
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 1: you know, three years. But Paul, I mean, we didn't
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 1: see anything bad today. I said it was okay. I
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 1: didn't say it was bad, but I would say not
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 1: even close to bad. Right, But I don't like, I
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 1: didn't like it was better than the Panthers. I'd say
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 1: the defense is continuing to raise my hopes. You know,
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 1: they looked similar to how they've made the Patriots offense
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 1: looked through a lot of these parts. Haven't inadvertently made
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 1: a good comment. I don't think you meant it this way,
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 1: but it was kind of like what we saw in
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 1: the game last year. You know, we don't know that
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 1: that's what they looked like. When the Panthers starting offense
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 1: against the Patriots starting defense. They couldn't really get much
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 1: of a push except a couple of runs with McCaffrey.
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 1: Past defense, a lot of pressure on Panther's quarterbacks. And
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 1: like I was saying, the free rushers, they've tried to
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 1: upgrade this offensive line in Carolina, and it still looked
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 1: like especially in past protection. I've wrote down a bunch
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 1: of pressures in some of these passing sequences that they had.
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 1: Panther's going to do another Another offense is set here? Yeah,
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 1: is that Mayfield? That is? Yeah going deep? Oh I
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 1: get high. I mean that one was pretty good coverage.
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 1: I thought that, Yeah, it would have been a tough catch,
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 1: but quarterback didn't give him a shot. Yeah. I was
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 1: fired that thing. Those are the throws you worry about
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 1: with Jonathan Jones on the outside. Just doesn't have the
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 1: height or the ball skills to defend passes like that.
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 1: That's like the tradeoff though, you know. It's like, hey,
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 1: we want to be faster, we want to be the
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 1: matchup speed, and you know when you play man you
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 1: can have him travel. But you're right, it's like you're
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 1: gonna give up a little bit of size depending on
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 1: the matchups. Well, it's wide open up the middle. Yeah,
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 1: Patriots spun their safeties on that one, and Baker had
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 1: no idea where he's going with the football. I thought
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 1: he had two options. I agree with you, Mike, Yeah,
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 1: right in the middle eighty four. I mean, I don't know,
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 1: I was kind of in between. Don't know how much
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 1: the rush got in his face and he couldn't see it. Yeah,
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 1: I think Barnmore got a hand up. You see that
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 1: with Baker though a lot in that Cleveland game last year.
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 1: The Dugger almost pick six when you been on him
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 1: post snap with the safety. He when you go from
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 1: single high to two high or vice versa, he just
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 1: gets lost. They're still young. Oh yeah, all right, completion
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 1: on NICs to eighty two. There's here a two minutes. Yeah,
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 1: here's a yeah. Look, I was just gonna say, it
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 1: looks like they're in a hot hurry up. Well it's
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 1: a nice one to yeah, ye, in between blood Zoe
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 1: and Dugger found the whole. I wonder if lays amount
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 1: on that one. Well, absolutely, but I mean I think
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a catch. But yeah, I mean they
• 2:42:47
  Speaker 1: definitely peeled off. Yeah, he just wants that one all
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 1: day and again high and long. I mean a good
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 1: good coverage. Again though I thought by by Jones, Yeah
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 1: that's DJ Moore. Yep, first one was him too. That's
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 1: not really DJ Moore's game. No, we'll see what what
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 1: Jones looks like against the guy that can go up.
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 1: And I'd like to see Robbie Anderson try. I mean
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 1: he's Robbie Anderson is what like six two? Isn't he
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit bigger? Dj Moore is a technician, he's
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 1: a he's a route runner. Here's McCaffrey in the backfield.
• 2:43:25
  Speaker 1: See how they defend this. Oh, somebody jumped fall start yeah,
• 2:43:36
  Speaker 1: fall start on. The Panthers looked like they had Josh
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 1: Bloodsoe and man John McCaffrey. Yeah, good luck. There's still
• 2:43:56
  Speaker 1: a good crowd here too, that people who hung out. Yeah,
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 1: all right, wide open him the flat too high, too high.
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 1: He is not giving his receivers a chance. Jeez. He
• 2:44:28
  Speaker 1: feels looking down, hands on hips, getting the play in.
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 1: It still looks better than Sam Darnold, I know, right,
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 1: but that's not saying much. I think they both look
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 1: absolutely Yeah three three safety deep, prepare for the Patriots
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 1: off ye is one. That's a good throw. Yeah, that's
• 2:45:00
  Speaker 1: a good That wasn't an easy throw, even though he
• 2:45:02
  Speaker 1: looks like he's wide open. He's got to get that
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 1: in between who else but McCaffrey. He's got that. He's
• 2:45:07
  Speaker 1: got to get that in between a couple of layers.
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 1: That's not an easy throw. Yeah, that was a double
• 2:45:12
  Speaker 1: robber man coverage and Jawan Bendley got put on in
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 1: man against McCaffrey. Yeah, that's just a matchup if you're
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. I know they're not game planning or anything,
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 1: but you just can't you can't let that matchup happen.
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 1: And you know, debate to may Fields. Creddy right in
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 1: the bread basket. That just dropped right down there. So
• 2:45:30
  Speaker 1: good throw about the three yard line, some good pressure
• 2:45:48
  Speaker 1: from Dietrich. Yeah, why bull rushed himself in there, and
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 1: look at that. Why's padded Mayfield on the head. He's nice,
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 1: throw a punch right, he's doing his patent have walked
• 2:46:03
  Speaker 1: down arms and legs everywhere, so he's out. Judo's back
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 1: in Taylor Martin. They're right. Tackle is a good player.
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 1: Detriki has gotten them a couple of times in these
• 2:46:18
  Speaker 1: team girls. I'll tell you what an underrated problem with
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 1: the People's offense is. He's come out going to go
• 2:46:36
  Speaker 1: play right there have his incomplete underrated problem with the
• 2:46:41
  Speaker 1: Panthers offenses. The snaps, Yeah, they're all like knee high
• 2:46:45
  Speaker 1: or lower. Jalen Mills again, good coverage. I think he's
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 1: got like four or five past breakups. In this practice,
• 2:46:56
  Speaker 1: Green Goblin come to play. M Paul's not so definitely. Well,
• 2:47:02
  Speaker 1: it's a Patriots down the field. Guys have been opening
• 2:47:07
  Speaker 1: and they just can't throw. Even that slant was eight
• 2:47:11
  Speaker 1: eight eight yards behind the intended target, trade blocked. What happened?
• 2:47:24
  Speaker 1: I think they knocked that one away. Okay, it seemed
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 1: like I think that impossibly tight window. I think it's
• 2:47:29
  Speaker 1: Mills Mills again. Yeah, that's a that's a fourth down
• 2:47:32
  Speaker 1: game on the line, we gotta throw it. Yep, that
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 1: was their last place. So Mac is on the field.
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 1: Now Patriots will go on off for practice that seemingly
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 1: will not end well. Freddie warned us, I never understand
• 2:47:44
  Speaker 1: why they run that role out play in their It's
• 2:47:48
  Speaker 1: literally of the field that you have to work. Well.
• 2:47:51
  Speaker 1: It just it puts it like if you don't immediately win,
• 2:47:54
  Speaker 1: you can't you can't succeed in the play. You could
• 2:47:56
  Speaker 1: just see when he was throwing it like it was
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 1: just collapsing, Like I mean, you had such a small window.
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 1: The Patriots running with that little pick they usually had
• 2:48:04
  Speaker 1: pick and then they put the running back in the
• 2:48:06
  Speaker 1: flat and that one's I'll at least designed nicely to
• 2:48:10
  Speaker 1: have that little pick for man coverage. But that's a
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 1: play that short circuit of a lot of games last year.
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 1: They tried it against Tampa Bay on the third down
• 2:48:19
  Speaker 1: of Jacoby Myers. They tried it against Miami. Yeah, before
• 2:48:22
  Speaker 1: the the fumble at Tayklon Thornton out here with Mac. Oh,
• 2:48:31
  Speaker 1: he's got him. Oh, there's no one covering them. No
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 1: one covered either of the like time on coming on
• 2:48:36
  Speaker 1: the outside or I mean Thornton would have had a touchdown.
• 2:48:51
  Speaker 1: It's jac Horne's side too. Yeah, it's just a breakdown.
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 1: There was no one cut, there was no one got beat.
• 2:48:57
  Speaker 1: There was just no one on him. Yeah. I don't
• 2:48:59
  Speaker 1: know what the guy against Thornton was doing. Just let
• 2:49:01
  Speaker 1: him go. Okay, it's past the Johnny Smith. This is
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 1: the best stretch of offense to some guy's wide open
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 1: and you're just pitching and catching this. This is the way.
• 2:49:28
  Speaker 1: It's the way Brady made it look. Freddy. Yeah, man
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 1: a sack. Oh, I don't know, definitely close. Yeah, came
• 2:49:39
  Speaker 1: from behind, like could just Matt Matt mac is exhorting
• 2:49:45
  Speaker 1: his teammates. I don't know what he's saying, but a
• 2:49:47
  Speaker 1: lot of hand motion. It's like know how to steps up.
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 1: Although that one I thought he had time. He just
• 2:50:01
  Speaker 1: didn't have anybody to throw. Well, he didn't see anybody
• 2:50:03
  Speaker 1: you wanted to throw it too. Time Montgomery working in
• 2:50:09
  Speaker 1: this third down back pass catching back roll in this
• 2:50:12
  Speaker 1: hurry up. I just I no no offense to them,
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 1: but I just my expectations of Pierre Strung Kevin Harris
• 2:50:18
  Speaker 1: being involved at least early on very low right now. Yeah,
• 2:50:33
  Speaker 1: he has to dump it off, does so successfully, but
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that was the first option spike yet
• 2:50:39
  Speaker 1: spike get ye oh and then he missed it. Why
• 2:50:48
  Speaker 1: would you like for a yard? Why would you pick
• 2:50:50
  Speaker 1: a pass spike for a yard? Take a shot the
• 2:50:52
  Speaker 1: end zone right exactly right there. That's got to be
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 1: an out and up. Yeah, like what is that? So
• 2:50:59
  Speaker 1: Matt fakes biked and tried to just a quick outlet
• 2:51:02
  Speaker 1: pass to U Thornton off the mark. Now he was
• 2:51:06
  Speaker 1: in one on one. If he makes the guy miss,
• 2:51:08
  Speaker 1: it's a big game. But it was right on the sideline. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:51:11
  Speaker 1: it seemed like that was gonna be. It was gonna
• 2:51:14
  Speaker 1: be a one yard completion. I think we can chuck
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 1: that play in the trash. I mean that that's that's
• 2:51:23
  Speaker 1: all data Parker, right, that's a fake spike. Put it
• 2:51:25
  Speaker 1: up for Parker on the back of the handzone. That's that.
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 1: That's the fake spike play. Oh, that's ill advised passed
• 2:51:37
  Speaker 1: by Jones. He was back pedaling under pressure. I'm gonna
• 2:51:41
  Speaker 1: defend I mean, you guys are gonna be surprised. I'm
• 2:51:42
  Speaker 1: gonna defend it a little bit and be I don't
• 2:51:44
  Speaker 1: know exactly what the situation is, but my guess is
• 2:51:47
  Speaker 1: that's a that's the last play. We can't take a sack.
• 2:51:51
  Speaker 1: I just have to throw it up and hold someone
• 2:51:53
  Speaker 1: makes a play fair enough exactly what it was. It
• 2:51:55
  Speaker 1: was all go four verts. That was a hail Mary. Yeah. See,
• 2:52:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not always negative, unless like we're going again hit
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 1: him again? Donald Donald's Brooks again again Sam Donald? Ye, Carolina,
• 2:52:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not real. I'm not really all that interested in
• 2:52:21
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald And uh no, wait a minute, we have Yeah,
• 2:52:27
  Speaker 1: we have Marcus Jones, gotcha real peppers, Adrian Phillips, we
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 1: have a few. Uh do you guys that factor? And
• 2:52:36
  Speaker 1: I can watch this a little bit more intently than
• 2:52:38
  Speaker 1: I know him would. Who's that Sam Roberts up, who's
• 2:52:43
  Speaker 1: that ninety two. Gotcha, gotcha? Okay, Sam Donald, Who Peppers,
• 2:52:59
  Speaker 1: that's a good play, that's past broken up. Yeah, I
• 2:53:04
  Speaker 1: like them, Peppers, unique guy, peppers had spice to the defense. Hey, Eric,
• 2:53:15
  Speaker 1: we do do salt and peppers. Maybe we could do
• 2:53:17
  Speaker 1: a show with them or something. Yeah, thanks Matt. There
• 2:53:43
  Speaker 1: many of these things they're going to keep. I didn't
• 2:53:45
  Speaker 1: get that. I didn't get that at first four or five.
• 2:53:48
  Speaker 1: We're studying the play, so we're going no huddle, Oh
• 2:53:53
  Speaker 1: oh whoa throw a little side arm pass, ye, big completion.
• 2:53:58
  Speaker 1: Suddenly Tommy Tremble is on coverable in these two minute drills.
• 2:54:01
  Speaker 1: That's like the third catch in these Uh. That seems
• 2:54:04
  Speaker 1: like a made up name. He's a BC guy, right,
• 2:54:06
  Speaker 1: no no name, no name guy. That's another same thing.
• 2:54:09
  Speaker 1: Tough one for Adrian Phillips. That's good. That's a good
• 2:54:13
  Speaker 1: little role. They're away from the pressure. Another safety blitz
• 2:54:17
  Speaker 1: with the Carolina on the march now and that scene
• 2:54:24
  Speaker 1: past arian Phillips play like a hook zone as a safety.
• 2:54:28
  Speaker 1: Probably hasn't played a ton in that spot before. In
• 2:54:30
  Speaker 1: the scene there, it just didn't get enough depth on
• 2:54:32
  Speaker 1: his drop and the Panthers they are currently at the
• 2:54:45
  Speaker 1: twenty six yard line. Yeah, this is where the Patriots
• 2:54:48
  Speaker 1: quickly moved and kind of stalled out. See how Carolina
• 2:54:52
  Speaker 1: fares down here. Yeah, now, Peppers seems very in tune
• 2:54:58
  Speaker 1: what they're doing. Terrible snap. Jeezus, they gotta do something
• 2:55:02
  Speaker 1: about that. Oh yeah, Sean Wade showing up. He had
• 2:55:08
  Speaker 1: a nice game against the Giants too, Sir. I agree
• 2:55:11
  Speaker 1: Evan Paul doesn't, but I do. Drop by. I thought
• 2:55:15
  Speaker 1: he reminded me of first year Malcolm Butler. He was feisty,
• 2:55:18
  Speaker 1: he was in position. I thought the other the other
• 2:55:22
  Speaker 1: guy was open when he was covering. Disagreeing the throws.
• 2:55:27
  Speaker 1: Throws didn't get there. I mean, I don't know what
• 2:55:28
  Speaker 1: to tell you. I thought, Terrence Mitchell, that was good
• 2:55:33
  Speaker 1: coverage in the Giants game. Terrence Mitchell, he was excellent
• 2:55:36
  Speaker 1: on that game. I'll focus on the positive, all right,
• 2:55:44
  Speaker 1: enough inside, Oh oh oh no, they just hurried nobody's
• 2:55:54
  Speaker 1: I thought they were yelling at Peppers for putting his
• 2:55:56
  Speaker 1: shoulder in him. Oh tis good, that's an interception. Did
• 2:56:06
  Speaker 1: you like that play? Paul? There you go, that's a
• 2:56:09
  Speaker 1: great that's a that's a great play by the defensive back. Right,
• 2:56:12
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like the Taekwon Thorn route for the touchdown.
• 2:56:15
  Speaker 1: Great great route, the ball was tipped up and Sean
• 2:56:18
  Speaker 1: Wade with a diving catch. Now we gotta have they
• 2:56:24
  Speaker 1: gonna horyor I would imagine, I don't know, it looks
• 2:56:28
  Speaker 1: like they're still making the Pats defense day out there
• 2:56:30
  Speaker 1: for situational Yeah, I couldn't see you got a hand
• 2:56:36
  Speaker 1: on that might have been I might have been Ronnie. No,
• 2:56:43
  Speaker 1: he was on the left side. But you know, Darnald,
• 2:56:47
  Speaker 1: it looked like you threw it right into a guy's
• 2:56:48
  Speaker 1: shoulder pad. I'm not you know, yeah, yeah, I mean
• 2:56:57
  Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, it's not exactly the same as
• 2:57:00
  Speaker 1: the Patriots offense, but they I mean, they've just been sporadic,
• 2:57:03
  Speaker 1: like they they hit a couple of plays and then
• 2:57:05
  Speaker 1: it's a couple of terrible overthrows or throws into coverage deflections.
• 2:57:16
  Speaker 1: But you can see why this team will probably be
• 2:57:19
  Speaker 1: handed out to McCaffrey. I'm gonna I'm gonna be a
• 2:57:22
  Speaker 1: Patriots homer and say I think the Patriots look better today,
• 2:57:25
  Speaker 1: both both sides of the ball. I don't think you
• 2:57:27
  Speaker 1: have to be a homer to say that. I don't
• 2:57:28
  Speaker 1: think there's any question. Yeah, all right, So we're back
• 2:57:32
  Speaker 1: at it with Darnold. He's on the ten yard line,
• 2:57:38
  Speaker 1: pictures dropping other safety blitz Oh, interference on Wade. I
• 2:57:46
  Speaker 1: think that's a bad call. I'll defend you a guy, Fred.
• 2:57:48
  Speaker 1: How does that sound? I thought seventeen pushed off. Well,
• 2:57:50
  Speaker 1: they both had their arms extended, so I thought seventeen
• 2:57:53
  Speaker 1: pushed off to create separation. Yeah, I mean Mike Pella,
• 2:57:57
  Speaker 1: Greeno's got double double palms up. Miles is asking yelling
• 2:58:00
  Speaker 1: at the ref. It's preseason for them too, though, you
• 2:58:03
  Speaker 1: know sounds like those like screaming. Did you just say boo?
• 2:58:09
  Speaker 1: His sir, sir, I strongly disagree with that call, mister official,
• 2:58:15
  Speaker 1: And now we strongly disagree. Is that how it works?
• 2:58:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe you were acting the day they taught law er
• 2:58:21
  Speaker 1: law school. They're given another another round here, It's like
• 2:58:27
  Speaker 1: somehow they might have gained a couple of yards. Guess
• 2:58:29
  Speaker 1: what halfway to the gold pass interference and in the end, right,
• 2:58:34
  Speaker 1: I guess they're really going with this whole thing and
• 2:58:37
  Speaker 1: they're gonna run it in. I thought they said they weren't.
• 2:58:39
  Speaker 1: Thing they do and the Panthers celebrate as if they've
• 2:58:46
  Speaker 1: just won the practice, right, But Brian Hoyers has something
• 2:58:50
  Speaker 1: to say about it as he walks these field with
• 2:58:53
  Speaker 1: the second team Patriots on Patriots offense on the field
• 2:59:00
  Speaker 1: the practice that never ends. Yeah, we're getting some friendly
• 2:59:05
  Speaker 1: banter between Matthew, Judan and burn full time, which that's
• 2:59:09
  Speaker 1: what this is about. And you're like, like Dietrich Wise,
• 2:59:14
  Speaker 1: you're patting the guy in the head, right, and you're done.
• 2:59:16
  Speaker 1: You going, you tippy cap, you go home. You're done.
• 2:59:17
  Speaker 1: You go home. You take off your protective camp and
• 2:59:21
  Speaker 1: your guardian camp and go home. All right? Will this
• 2:59:25
  Speaker 1: be it? Will this be it? I think you gotta
• 2:59:30
  Speaker 1: feed little Jordan on this one. Just let little Jordan eat,
• 2:59:36
  Speaker 1: get him going there. It is Trey train, Nixon Crosser
• 2:59:46
  Speaker 1: gets out of bounds. Oh but Bill Belichick is running
• 2:59:50
  Speaker 1: the clock, keeping the clock running. No huddle. Well you're signaling,
• 3:00:01
  Speaker 1: oh a little Jordan. That's that's too much for even
• 3:00:03
  Speaker 1: little Jordan. Yeah. I don't know what was intended there,
• 3:00:07
  Speaker 1: but Jordan looked like he didn't come out of his
• 3:00:09
  Speaker 1: break fast enough. I don't love little Jordan on the outside.
• 3:00:13
  Speaker 1: We move him inside, haven't run the scene. It's a
• 3:00:16
  Speaker 1: little bit better. I love little Jordan period oh, end
• 3:00:21
  Speaker 1: of paragraph and graph sent published. All right, howyer I like?
• 3:00:30
  Speaker 1: I like Taekwoni. He's a Patriot a tree. Nixon again
• 3:00:36
  Speaker 1: gets out of bounds, Carolina being a little bit more exotic.
• 3:00:45
  Speaker 1: Was what they're doing defensively at that double a gap
• 3:00:49
  Speaker 1: mug pressure now and now we're getting into it. I
• 3:00:51
  Speaker 1: have no idea what you're talking about. As opposed to
• 3:00:54
  Speaker 1: Jabral Pepper's blitzing on every play, the Patriots are just
• 3:00:57
  Speaker 1: running straight zero. They're running that A gap pressure. Two
• 3:01:00
  Speaker 1: linebackers standing up in the a gaps and based off
• 3:01:03
  Speaker 1: of the slide of the protection, one blitz is one drops.
• 3:01:05
  Speaker 1: You might throw a dB blitz in there every once
• 3:01:08
  Speaker 1: in a while. Oh that's good pressure there. Hold on
• 3:01:15
  Speaker 1: to that ball, Devin as running down the field. Is
• 3:01:22
  Speaker 1: that fifty three that burns? Yeah? Yeah, burns. Standing in
• 3:01:26
  Speaker 1: back of the Patriots offense, yelling out good protection on now, yeah,
• 3:01:32
  Speaker 1: good throw by hoy dog right down the metal of
• 3:01:37
  Speaker 1: the field. Tray Patris down about the thirty kind of
• 3:01:42
  Speaker 1: spike that stops the clock? Kick it, kick it. There
• 3:01:51
  Speaker 1: comes Thornton, boy Ar lindon him Bright taking a lot
• 3:01:59
  Speaker 1: of reps left tackle, right tackle. I mean, you got
• 3:02:03
  Speaker 1: got guys down, guys down. It's really it's I mean,
• 3:02:07
  Speaker 1: it's could just Durant and Dold just yeah, but definitely
• 3:02:18
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see a win or harm back here.
• 3:02:22
  Speaker 1: Some death problems for sure. Just so much talk about
• 3:02:27
  Speaker 1: trading win or doing something like that, and it's like,
• 3:02:30
  Speaker 1: now you see it. Okay, tried to lay it in
• 3:02:36
  Speaker 1: there for Thornton, but tough to tell with that tree. Yeah, yeah,
• 3:02:40
  Speaker 1: that tree really bothers us. It was a very small window.
• 3:02:44
  Speaker 1: Thought he had a chance to make that play ball
• 3:02:49
  Speaker 1: at the eleven, Brian Horror continues to work. Yeah, can
• 3:02:59
  Speaker 1: you go to the other side of the end zone.
• 3:03:01
  Speaker 1: Get this tree here that's blocking our view. Well, yeah,
• 3:03:11
  Speaker 1: I always doubled down the middle. Oh nice, nice throw.
• 3:03:15
  Speaker 1: Nice Devin Asioss back of the end zone fired it
• 3:03:19
  Speaker 1: in there. First time we've called it out. Assiosi's name,
• 3:03:22
  Speaker 1: and he's been out there a toime. I know, all right,
• 3:03:30
  Speaker 1: I think that could be it. Both teams are huddling up. Yeah,
• 3:03:35
  Speaker 1: so we're gonna call it a rap. Thanks. On day
• 3:03:38
  Speaker 1: one of the joint practice, I think the Patriots had
• 3:03:41
  Speaker 1: the better of the play Freddy. We want to thank
• 3:03:43
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• 3:03:47
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• 3:03:51
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• 3:03:56
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