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[EP 426] 5 Rock Songs, 5 Dark Stories: The Music Behind the Nightmares with Courtney Skelton · Booked On Rock with Eric Senich

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  Speaker 1: I actually had a dream about the story. Sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: have dreams where it plays out like a movie. I
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  Speaker 1: was about to lose this story. I didn't have an ending.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have a title. I didn't have anything that
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  Speaker 1: tied together. I was just leaving my mom's residence in DeKalb.
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  Speaker 1: I pulled out to Annie Glitter Road, and the almost-to-song
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  Speaker 1: Lifeline came on. And I realized at that point, I
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  Speaker 1: know what the title's going to be. I know what's
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  Speaker 1: going to tie it all together. So I went home,
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  Speaker 1: wrote it all down. Without that song, I would have
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  Speaker 1: lost it.
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  Speaker 2: But we're totally booked.
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  Speaker 1: Rock and roll! Well, I think I'll leave you to
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  Speaker 1: your reading.
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  Speaker 2: Little hand says it's time to rock and roll.
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  Speaker 1: Rock and roll!
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  Speaker 2: We are totally booked. Welcome back to Booked on Rock.
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  Speaker 2: Conversations with authors, musicians, and insiders revealing the stories behind
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  Speaker 2: classic rock's greatest songs, albums, and artists. I'm Eric Senech.
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  Speaker 2: in the show notes or go to BookedOnRock.com. Now onto
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  Speaker 2: our show. Courtney Skelton's Inspired brings together five thought-provoking stories,
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  Speaker 2: each sparked by a song and transformed into its own
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  Speaker 2: tale of struggle, survival, and unexpected turns. In this episode,
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  Speaker 2: Courtney joins me to talk about how music from bands,
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  Speaker 2: including Reign of Z, Bullet to the Heart, Eden on Fire,
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  Speaker 2: and The Almas, became the starting point for these stories,
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  Speaker 2: and how he turned the emotions and ideas behind the
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  Speaker 2: songs into fiction. Welcome to the podcast, Courtney.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Most writers start with a character or an idea, but here,
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  Speaker 2: your stories begin with songs. So talk about what inspired
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  Speaker 2: you to turn music into fiction.
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  Speaker 1: The first one was Reign of Z. I started seeing
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  Speaker 1: them in concerts. A few years ago when they were
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  Speaker 1: on their Left 4 Dead tour. Let me back up
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. I was writing a book. A full
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  Speaker 1: length book. I was going through the editing process. Which
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  Speaker 1: told us the editing process can be a little bit tedious.
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  Speaker 1: But I wanted to keep my writing skills sharp. So
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to get something out of the side project.
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  Speaker 1: Therefore I thought about. What if I took one of
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  Speaker 1: the songs from Reign of Z. And turned it into
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  Speaker 1: a story. Because several of those songs, like a good
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  Speaker 1: artist or a good songwriter, makes it ambiguous enough where
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  Speaker 1: anybody can fit their own life into that story. So
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be just what happens to the
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  Speaker 1: author's life. Took it to the rate of day. What
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  Speaker 1: about before I wrote it? What do you think if
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  Speaker 1: I wrote this song, took this song, made it into
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  Speaker 1: a story to love the idea? So, okay. Wrote the
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  Speaker 1: story from the song. cellophane and took the lyrics, as
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  Speaker 1: you know, into this title, took it to them, they
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  Speaker 1: loved it. I said, well, this is an idea, let
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  Speaker 1: me just build on that. Went to Bullet to the
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  Speaker 1: Heart next, they followed the pedal line with them, made
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  Speaker 1: another story, and they came to know there was five
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  Speaker 1: stories out of four bands, and somebody said to me,
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  Speaker 1: Before I would realize what I had, you should make
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  Speaker 1: an anthology book out of this. I read it. I
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  Speaker 1: loved the idea. Hence, here we are.
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  Speaker 2: How did you choose these particular songs?
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  Speaker 1: Two of the bands, I like them all equally, but
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  Speaker 1: two of the bands I like, because they come around
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  Speaker 1: this area quite a bit. I've seen them, the Olmos
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  Speaker 1: and Ray of Z tour together. So I'm more privy
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  Speaker 1: to them. I haven't seen Eden on Fire, but because
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  Speaker 1: they toured with Ray of Z, I picked up on
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  Speaker 1: their music. Through internet and through Facebook and social media.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: How I chose these songs was the songs I related
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  Speaker 1: to the most. Each of them have a wide library
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  Speaker 1: of songs that anybody can relate to. Cellophane is the
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  Speaker 1: one I relate to. The song has so much emotion
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  Speaker 1: and it struck a chord with me.
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  Speaker 2: Where are you from?
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  Speaker 1: I am from Sycamore, Illinois. I live in Balbany, Illinois
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So these bands come around your way to perform.
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  Speaker 2: What genre would you consider? They're metal.
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  Speaker 1: Radom Gee had more metal. The Almas, Bullets of the Heart,
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  Speaker 1: and Edelman Farrar would say more just straight piss to
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  Speaker 1: the mouth of hard rock.
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  Speaker 2: Did you discuss your interpretations with any of the musicians?
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  Speaker 1: Surprisingly, they gave me a card block. You make a story,
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  Speaker 1: we'd be flattered. have you write something about our songs.
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  Speaker 1: Because I was worried that, I've heard stories about, I
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  Speaker 1: remember with Jeff Tate of Queensryche, he was never going
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  Speaker 1: to make a movie out of Operation Mindcrime. I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking if I went to them, they would say, no,
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  Speaker 1: don't you encroach on our words. These are ours. Keep away,
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  Speaker 1: which I would have respected. But each of them said,
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  Speaker 1: do what you will to never put out any guardrails
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  Speaker 1: at all.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into the stories now. Don't Suffocate, that's inspired
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  Speaker 2: by Reign of Z's cellophane. Sophia's a waitress attacked in
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  Speaker 2: her home. What about that song inspired this story of survival?
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  Speaker 1: The song, to me, sounds like somebody was making their
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  Speaker 1: solution to a problem somebody else's. I created a character
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  Speaker 1: that was getting away with his first character long until
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  Speaker 1: they read a cross path of Sophia. and the old attitude,
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  Speaker 1: fight or flight, she wasn't going to fly, she was
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  Speaker 1: going to fight some, but this fight back and stand
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  Speaker 1: up for herself, which, according to the story, should have
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  Speaker 1: happened long before now.
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  Speaker 2: And then after escaping Roger's attack, Sophia turns the tables
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  Speaker 2: on him and puts him through a similar ordeal. Did
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  Speaker 2: you want readers to celebrate her revenge or question her actions?
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  Speaker 1: I would say more or less, yeah, I would say celebrate,
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  Speaker 1: close to there. If you want to, question or action
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  Speaker 1: that's up there or reader's interpretation. But at some point,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everybody sees the class bully gets away with
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  Speaker 1: it too long until one person stands up and ups
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  Speaker 1: it out.
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  Speaker 2: And Sophia's been estranged from her mother, Helen, following a
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  Speaker 2: disagreement over her ailing stepfather. Why did you have Sophia's
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  Speaker 2: traumatic experience lead to their reconciliation?
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  Speaker 1: Good question. What it is is when she's in that
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  Speaker 1: room of Roger's house, she sees the memorabilia of other
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  Speaker 1: mothers and that connects to Doss to her own life
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  Speaker 1: and realize she has her own transition she needs to
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  Speaker 1: tie up as well. So that reminds her of what
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  Speaker 1: she's been leaving open in her life and then that
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  Speaker 1: causes a cathartic effect on her own life and that's
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  Speaker 1: why she reaches out to her mom. So by pursuing Roger,
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  Speaker 1: She sees this, and then she comes to a realization
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  Speaker 1: she needs to fix things a Rolex.
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  Speaker 2: The next story is Sins Away, inspired by Bullets of
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  Speaker 2: the Hearts Falling Away. This one follows Jessica, who survived
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  Speaker 2: a difficult childhood, but later murdered two women, including her mother.
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  Speaker 2: This is some dark stuff. Why did you want readers
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  Speaker 2: to sympathize with her?
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  Speaker 1: There's so many times when... movies about either good or bad.
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  Speaker 1: I want to create a character that's both sympathetic yet
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  Speaker 1: has her own transgressions as well. Yes, she had a
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  Speaker 1: tough start, but she had some choices that she could
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  Speaker 1: have done better herself. Nobody's perfect, so I want a
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  Speaker 1: character that's both good and bad as well. You can
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  Speaker 1: sympathize with her But you can also say, no, I
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  Speaker 1: can't go along with that.
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  Speaker 2: Courtney Skelton, the author of Inspired. The book is out now.
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  Speaker 2: We'll let you know where you can get a copy
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  Speaker 2: of the book. Jessica, that character, she discovers she's pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: She repents and pleads for her baby's life. Her son survives,
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  Speaker 2: but she dies. So what are you exploring there about
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  Speaker 2: forgiveness and punishment?
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  Speaker 1: Well, at that point, she realizes that, yes, she went
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  Speaker 1: too far. She pleads for her baby's life. At that point,
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  Speaker 1: she realizes she has a choice. She has to give
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  Speaker 1: herself up for her baby's life. And she does all
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  Speaker 1: she can to make things right. She can't undo what
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  Speaker 1: she did, but she can only ask for forgiveness for
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  Speaker 1: her baby's life in place of her own.
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  Speaker 2: What's cool about this book, it plays out almost like
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  Speaker 2: a Netflix series.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Story is a new episode in a series, which would
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  Speaker 2: be cool. That would be cool if you get these
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  Speaker 2: turned into some kind of a film series. Never Again,
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  Speaker 2: inspired by Eden on Fire's Fallen, which follows Amy, a
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  Speaker 2: young woman held captive in a basement. Why did you
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  Speaker 2: give the different sides of her personality their own voices?
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  Speaker 1: That was actually based on the song. If you heard
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  Speaker 1: the song, the one of the first line, if not
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  Speaker 1: the second, she says, even on fire says, all alone
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  Speaker 1: in a crowded mind. And so the character has so
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  Speaker 1: many people inundating her with what she should do, different
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  Speaker 1: facets of her own mind, crowding her mind. So that's
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  Speaker 1: where the character has these, plus, as you know, from
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  Speaker 1: the character that comes into her mind during the story,
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  Speaker 1: that also is trying to help her through her play.
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  Speaker 2: And Amy also speaks with Cassandra, who we discover was
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  Speaker 2: a real girl, abducted years earlier and never found. Did
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  Speaker 2: you plan that supernatural twist from the beginning?
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  Speaker 1: I planned it from the beginning. It took it to
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  Speaker 1: the very end to actually tie in together. I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: sure where exactly it was going to connect. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: until the very end I realized, you know, this is
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  Speaker 1: where I'm going to have her come in from her past.
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  Speaker 1: So that's I had to write it out myself fully
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  Speaker 1: before I appreciated where I was coming from.
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious, do you have an inspiration, an author that
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  Speaker 2: you follow yourself, or authors, plural, that inspired your style
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  Speaker 2: of writing?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, authors, plural. The two big, lately, well, Stephen King,
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  Speaker 1: which the guy is, he took it to the mountain.
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  Speaker 1: When he's not reading, he's not writing, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what else he has time for because he does both
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  Speaker 1: so well. And Clyde Barker, who's a huge fan of his. Lately,
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  Speaker 1: Freda McFadden has been impressing me with her work. She
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  Speaker 1: writes so thought-provoking and such easy to follow, easy to read,
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  Speaker 1: short chapters, short paragraphs. So she's inspired me to write
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  Speaker 1: more easier to read literature.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned Stephen King, and I'm a fan of his too.
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  Speaker 2: There's always that criticism that he writes too much, which
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  Speaker 2: I always find that just funny to just even have
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  Speaker 2: somebody say that, because it's like, if you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to read something of his, then you don't have to
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  Speaker 2: read it and wait until the next one comes out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just impressed with how much he puts out. If
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  Speaker 1: it came around to criticism, I misspoke. But yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: reads and writes so much. That's the term that you
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  Speaker 1: want to try to emulate. You want to be like you,
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  Speaker 1: like Woody Riles. If I could be like him, if
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  Speaker 1: I could be half of what he is, I'd be happy.
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  Speaker 2: He literally is the king. Do you have a favorite
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  Speaker 2: book of his? Favorite Stephen King book?
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  Speaker 1: Favorite Stephen King? The one that was, you know, went
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  Speaker 1: on the radar. I always liked Gerald's Game.
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  Speaker 2: Gerald's Game, yeah. The interesting one is The Shining and
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  Speaker 2: how Stanley Kubrick took that and just took license with
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  Speaker 2: it and Stephen King was never happy about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Stephen King himself, he said, I threw him a
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  Speaker 1: hand grenade and Stanley Kubrick threw his body on top
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, getting back to your book inspired, A Purpose,
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  Speaker 2: inspired by Rain of Z's Whispers in the Walls, which
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  Speaker 2: follows Crystal who moves into an apartment haunted by a
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  Speaker 2: young girl named Amanda. This might be my favorite one.
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  Speaker 2: How did that song inspire this supernatural mystery?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one actually is a deep cut. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure where it's available, but it's not even on iTunes.
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  Speaker 1: One of Renazine's first songs put out. From what I understand,
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  Speaker 1: the song was originally about a death close to the author,
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  Speaker 1: but I took it as somebody looking for help from
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  Speaker 1: the afterlife, looking for someone, anyone, to help them from
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  Speaker 1: their trapped life. So that's when I... had a chance
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  Speaker 1: to do a writing project. They had to start, the
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  Speaker 1: line had to start, the book had to start with Linda, the,
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  Speaker 1: what do you call it? It's the, the picture moved,
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  Speaker 1: eyes moved as he went by. I merely connected to
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  Speaker 1: that song. So I listened to that story all over
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  Speaker 1: and over until the song and the story became one.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that is On YouTube, because I know there
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  Speaker 2: was a few songs where they weren't on Spotify, and
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  Speaker 2: I had to search a little deep for it. I think,
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  Speaker 2: let's see, Reign of Z's Whispers in the Wall. Let's see,
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  Speaker 2: Reign of Z.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, without a different format. I can't remember what the...
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  Speaker 1: It is on YouTube, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on YouTube. Yeah, I see it here. Crystal
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  Speaker 2: eventually helps free Amanda, but in doing so, finds a
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  Speaker 2: sense of purpose herself. Was that connection between the two
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  Speaker 2: characters always central to the story?
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  Speaker 1: Right. It was almost as if Crystal was wondering why
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  Speaker 1: she was pulled into this city that she has nothing about,
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  Speaker 1: knows nobody. But now she realizes maybe this is the
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  Speaker 1: reason why she was here. Everything happened for a reason.
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  Speaker 1: This was her purpose.
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  Speaker 2: Bones, the next one, inspired by the Alma's Lifeline. And
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  Speaker 2: this follows Gerald, an older man grieving his wife Judy's
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  Speaker 2: death seven years earlier. What about this song inspired Gerald's story?
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  Speaker 1: This was a little bit different. They came in from
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  Speaker 1: the tail end, if I could expand upon that. I
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  Speaker 1: actually had a dream about the story. I'm lucky enough
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  Speaker 1: that I sometimes have dreams where it plays out like
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  Speaker 1: a movie. But if I don't write it down right away,
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  Speaker 1: I lose it. I was about to lose this story.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have an ending. I didn't have a title.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have anything that tied together. And I was,
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  Speaker 1: it was circling the drain. I was just leaving my
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  Speaker 1: mom's residence in DeKalb. And I still remember the moment
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  Speaker 1: I pulled out to any glitter road from her place.
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  Speaker 1: I had my music on shuffle and the almost his song,
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  Speaker 1: the lifeline came on. Well, just lifeline, I should say.
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  Speaker 1: And I realized at that point, I have a common denominator.
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  Speaker 1: I know where the title is going to be. I
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  Speaker 1: know what's going to tie it all together. So I
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  Speaker 1: went home. wrote it all down. That's where the title
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  Speaker 1: bones and the connection to, without that song, I would
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  Speaker 1: have lost it. It would have had no connection whatsoever.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool. Does that happen often?
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  Speaker 1: Not as near as much as it should.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it does every once in a while, which kind
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  Speaker 1: of like Jerry Seinfeld once said, you have to stand
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  Speaker 1: underneath the tap and wait for it to come out,
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  Speaker 1: and when you get it, make sure to make the
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  Speaker 1: best of it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I think he's the one that said, always have
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  Speaker 2: that notepad behind you. Or nowadays, you know, you could
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  Speaker 2: put it in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When do, when does
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  Speaker 2: creativity come to you most?
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  Speaker 1: Mostly time in those quiet moments. Usually it takes, unfortunately
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  Speaker 1: it takes a good moment of solitude where I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: nothing for a good time, but on time. But then
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  Speaker 1: after a little bit, something inspires me like a, Write
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  Speaker 1: a few things. Keep writing. Keep writing yourself nothing and
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  Speaker 1: then become something.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So your recommendation to those who are just starting
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  Speaker 2: out writing, just keep writing.
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  Speaker 1: Correct. It was said to me once, writing is like
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  Speaker 1: a puppy. If you don't take care of it, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to peel the carpet. It's going to chew up
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  Speaker 1: your shoes. If you take care of it, you'll do
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  Speaker 1: great by it and it'll take care of it.
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  Speaker 2: And don't wait for it to come to you.
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  Speaker 1: Just keep the way for it to come to you.
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  Speaker 2: Musicians do that too. A lot of times they just
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  Speaker 2: roll tape. Let's see what we come up with and
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  Speaker 2: then listen back to it later. And okay, we've got
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  Speaker 2: something there. Let's work off of that.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Like the kiss said once in Beth, he says,
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  Speaker 1: I hear him calling. I don't know how long it'll take,
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  Speaker 1: but we're going to keep working on this style. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you just got to keep plugging away.
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  Speaker 2: Zosia is a mysterious angel like figure who guides Gerald
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  Speaker 2: toward the helping a young girl named Haley. What did
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  Speaker 2: you envision Zosia to be, and why did Gerald need her?
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  Speaker 1: Basically, as you saw, he had his own demons he
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  Speaker 1: was facing. He was looking to rid himself of his
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  Speaker 1: own guilt. Zosia is his character, but everybody has angels
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  Speaker 1: of a white-winged, angelic like the character from Wizard of
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  Speaker 1: Oz but I want to make a different one that
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  Speaker 1: has a different look to it but with the same
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  Speaker 1: good intention Haley is the character next door as you
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  Speaker 1: know that incidentally he helps in the place of his
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  Speaker 1: own he realizes he can't help put himself above somebody
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  Speaker 1: that's younger that he can help out so he takes
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  Speaker 1: care of her before his own needs. Therefore, in the end,
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  Speaker 1: he ends up saving himself.
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  Speaker 2: So those are the five stories. Now that you've written
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  Speaker 2: those stories inspired by five songs, has that experience changed
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  Speaker 2: how you listen to music? Do you find yourself hearing
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  Speaker 2: potential stories in other songs now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, with a good, like I said at the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: a good author, or a songwriter, I should say, writes
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  Speaker 1: songs that are ambiguous enough that you don't have to
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  Speaker 1: necessarily go through divorce to hear. There's so many rights
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  Speaker 1: about divorce that you have to go through divorce to
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  Speaker 1: understand it. They write it ambiguous enough where it can
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  Speaker 1: fit any narrative. So when I hear those songs, to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: answer your question, yes, I hear songs and other songs,
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  Speaker 1: stories and other songs as well. I haven't repented any recently.
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  Speaker 1: I've been working on a different project right now. But
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  Speaker 1: I could easily pick up another song or two and
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  Speaker 1: make them into a story. I did retell a couple
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  Speaker 1: of other artists. They haven't responded back yet. But if
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: they should do, I would be glad to do the
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  Speaker 1: same respect.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe we'll get some more. So these five songs,
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  Speaker 2: were they.
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  Speaker 2: The only five songs you wrote stories around? Or were
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  Speaker 2: there some that were on the cutting room floor that
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: maybe you just didn't feel right and you put them
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  Speaker 2: aside for now?
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  Speaker 1: At this point, no. These are the only five songs
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  Speaker 1: right now. But again, I'm young enough. I can make
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  Speaker 1: some more. I love the positive reaction. I gave them
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  Speaker 1: each a copy that I could. Brimsey, you all must
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  Speaker 1: have a copy. But I think now that I talk
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: this out, even on fire, actually purchased a copy of
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: their own. So I know he's got a copy.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: That's great. So I'm sure they're sharing it with their
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: fans on social media and letting them know.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I'm so appreciative of that.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great idea. And I'm sure you get
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: people probably requesting, like I'm thinking of some songs right
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  Speaker 2: now that I'd love to have you write a creative
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  Speaker 2: story around. You start thinking of ones like, hey, that'd
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: be a good one to write about. Well, Inspired is
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: out now and you can find it through Amazon. Is
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: that the best place to go?
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Best place to go, Amazon, Inspired, by typing in my name.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: There's a few other songs, I'm sorry, a few other
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: books named Inspired. But you can type in Courtney Skelton.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: It brings up all my books along with Inspired. I purposely,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: with a publisher, priced it only just not even $ 8.
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  Speaker 1: Because I realized, yes, it's what it is. I marked
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: it lower to give everybody a break. I want the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: gifts to get the word out there. I'm not trying
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to milk your last penny. I like wanting people to
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: read about it, but that cash out your light saying for.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I, I believe it's also, uh, you can
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: get a Kindle copy, right?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There is a Kindle copy that's available. It's a
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: great book. It's a fun read. And it's one of
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: those where you can just do one story at a time,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: put it, put it down. It's, it's a great escape.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: You know, you can read a story and kind of,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: you know, escape from all the stuff going on in
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the world.
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  Speaker 1: That was the whole purpose of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. That's cool. Courtney, by the way, Courtney Skelton is
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: a great name. Is that your real name?
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Or is that a, Oh, that's my real name. It's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: a Skelton is a word I got from my dad
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  Speaker 1: and Courtney, my mom named me that because she thought
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: of the court day shortened the court because she thought
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that was very masculine.
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  Speaker 2: So I love that. That last name Skelton, man, you can't,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: that can't get better for a name. If you're writing
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: about a whore and, and, you know, and, Things like
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Stephen King related. You can't go wrong with that name.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a free kid.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Courtney, thank you so much. All the best with this book.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: People go out and get this. Look on Amazon for it.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Can people find you online, Courtney?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I'm on Facebook as well as Instagram if they
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: have any questions, comments. I'd be glad to reach out,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: you know, correspond with any kind of hands or just
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: have a question in general. I'm open to anybody. I'm
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: not the first one. You can reach me.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Excellent. I'll look for those online and put the links
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: in the show notes. Or if you want, just send
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: me an email with the links to both of those
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: so I can.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Let people know. Yeah, once we can wrap up here,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I'd be glad to.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Great. Courtney Skelton, thank you so much. Take care.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Take care.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: That's it. It's in the books.