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Furness Show 5-28: Eno Sarris, MLB Salary Cap, Corbin Smith, Seahawks Sale · The Ian Furness Show

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Speaker 1: Before I get to some other stuff. Because I mentioned
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Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City San Antonio game tonight, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: cross Roadsanders. People can help me out four nine four
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Speaker 1: or five one. So there's nothing like no hockey tonight,
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Speaker 1: no Mariners tonight.
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Speaker 2: So you're gonna be forced to watch Spurs.
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Speaker 1: I think not. I think I'll watch Investigation Idea with.
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Speaker 2: The wife, or you can watch one of the sports
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Speaker 2: movies that Greg mentioned.
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Speaker 1: You or Big Bang Theory reruns. What do I do?
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Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you do? I don't
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Speaker 1: think I Yeah, I think I'm gonna avoid it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna avoid.
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Speaker 2: What if the Spurs, you know, mount to comeback.
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Speaker 1: Here's here's how I cheat with that all the time.
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Speaker 1: Here's how I cheat with that. Is one of the
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Speaker 1: good things about Comcast Xfinity whatever. Hit the little button
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Speaker 1: sea on there and it pops up, here's what's on
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Speaker 1: right now sports wise, and you can just see what
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Speaker 1: the score.
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Speaker 2: Is if it like what if it's like tied late
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Speaker 2: third quarter?
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Speaker 1: Don't think I'm gonna do it. No, I think I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna try to avoid it.
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Speaker 2: Does it really take you off?
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Speaker 3: Like?
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Speaker 2: Does it is the agual game? Like everything around it, because.
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Speaker 1: I can't stand anything about them. Now they're playing in
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Speaker 1: San Antonio tonight, so that's different, so I don't have
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Speaker 1: to look at their ugly court and their ugly building
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Speaker 1: and their ugly city, and they're ugly fans. But I,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of had gotten over. I
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Speaker 1: sort of got had you know, gotten over everything it
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Speaker 1: won last year. Fine, whatever, we move on. I don't know. Man,
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Speaker 1: Still they still bothered me, and they still bothered me,
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Speaker 1: and I root hard against them, but it's the inevitable,
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Speaker 1: seems to be on the cusp. And now we got
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Speaker 1: Danny O'Neil on tomorrow in New York. We all maybe
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Speaker 1: Knicks fans.
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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, I've actually started to notice the
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Speaker 2: entire NBA world is becoming annoyed by them, becoming annoyed
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Speaker 2: by and not not because the same reasons we are, obviously,
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Speaker 2: but just by the way they playing.
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Speaker 1: No I think there is well, I think it was
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Speaker 1: fun with audio with Fay and Softy. You know, maybe
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Speaker 1: it's just Faine and Hugh yesterday. Yeah, yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: they played equip from Jay Williams on the ESPN. He
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Speaker 1: just said they don't they disrespect the fact that it
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Speaker 1: was Yeah, because Hugh talked about respecting the game and
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Speaker 1: when he was coaching youth sports and anything else. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think I think it's I don't know if i'd
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Speaker 1: go as far as Jay Williams saying that they disrespect
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Speaker 1: the game. I think that they're able to they push
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Speaker 1: it the envelope. Yeah, yeah, And I just don't you know,
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Speaker 1: one of the things that soccer gets really hammered for obviously,
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Speaker 1: right is I don't know if you call it diving
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Speaker 1: or embellishment. I think it's the embellishment after the fact
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Speaker 1: when a guy does get you know, dnked and knocked
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Speaker 1: down and whatever. It's the it's this everything that happened, right, Like,
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Speaker 1: it's why are we like, why are we rolling around?
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Speaker 1: Why are we doing that? Like, just get up? You know,
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Speaker 1: the fouls called, they're not going to give him a
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Speaker 1: red card because you're writhing in pain ready to get back.
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Speaker 1: Referees aren't stupid, right, and they can look at stuff
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Speaker 1: with video review now, right, and they can card you
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Speaker 1: for diving. Yeah, and so all that. But that's one
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Speaker 1: of the things that drives people in this country crazy
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Speaker 1: that are not true die hard soccer fans. Is that stuff. Well,
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Speaker 1: we're watching that up close with San Antono. I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying like, look, there's a lot of times that, especially SGA,
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Speaker 1: but it's a whole team now, like the whole team's
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Speaker 1: doing it. Holgrin's really bad. He's really bad with it.
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Speaker 2: It's because he's too soft.
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Speaker 4: Actually, well he's just Yeah, they guy, but the.
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Speaker 2: God of the thunder Man Seattle's not gonna like you.
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Speaker 1: I gotta ask Softy about it. That must that might
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Speaker 1: be Softy's least favorite athlete. And really, when you really
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Speaker 1: think about it, really, if you really think about it,
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Speaker 1: if you go you're a Gonzaga Bulldog and now in
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City thunder that you got to be at the
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Speaker 1: top of the hate list at that point, right. But No,
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Speaker 1: I think it's I think that how they play is
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Speaker 1: it's it's just it's just gross and it's it's not
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Speaker 1: how I you know, we I listen, everything's better back
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Speaker 1: in the day, everything's tougher back in the day, blah
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Speaker 1: blah blah. But I will say the NBA has changed
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Speaker 1: a lot in terms of how physical it used to be,
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Speaker 1: where guys would just power through stuff. Now maybe that
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Speaker 1: wasn't a better game's that's up for debate subjective, but
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Speaker 1: watching how in our town we like. The team that
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Speaker 1: won the title was one of the most physical teams
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Speaker 1: in the NBA ever, and the team they beat was
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Speaker 1: right there with them. Wes Unsalt and Elvin Hayes were bad,
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Speaker 1: bad men, tough dudes, banging, crashing Seattle. Their front line,
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Speaker 1: Lonnie Sheldon, backed up by Paul Silas, Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 1: Jack Sickma was a physical player, skilled as hell, physical player.
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Speaker 1: His nickname was the Banger, the Banger because he banged
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Speaker 1: you inside, elbows flying, it didn't matter, right. You look
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Speaker 1: at Oakley and then I mean how ex played here? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: guys like that.
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Speaker 5: Man.
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Speaker 1: The old battles between the late Jerome Kersey and Zavery
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Speaker 1: McDaniel were epic, epic physical, like you you played through stuff, right,
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Speaker 1: and now it's just like every time arms fly up
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Speaker 1: in the air. And yeah, I do think it's interesting
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Speaker 1: what you said that. I think there are people across
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Speaker 1: the country because they've turned against them. Oklahoma City, for
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Speaker 1: anybody not in Seattle. If you just kind of look, wow,
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Speaker 1: they're the little engine that could, you know, like they're
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Speaker 1: playing in Oklahoma City. They're never going to get free
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Speaker 1: agents to go there, and you know, who would want
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Speaker 1: to go to a small market team. And kind of
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Speaker 1: in a sense, the Jazz were that at one point. Yes,
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Speaker 1: the Pacers with Reggie and the Davis Boys were that
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Speaker 1: way as well for a while. Like that, the little
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Speaker 1: that story was kind of again, if you're not in Seattle,
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Speaker 1: that's not bad. It kind of like that story, right,
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Speaker 1: But now I think it's turned from that into I
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Speaker 1: can't watch you play. The way you play is really
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Speaker 1: really kind of just borderline disgusting.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll all kind of make the differential between
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Speaker 2: you know, you've mentioned, you know what makes soccer unwatchable
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Speaker 2: for a lot of people, and I completely understand that.
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Speaker 2: The thing is, most of the time, most of the time,
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Speaker 2: the object of what you're doing offensively in soccer is
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Speaker 2: not to get a call. You're trying to do something else,
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Speaker 2: and then if you get impeded, you try and embellish
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Speaker 2: it because you feel like, right, it feels like every
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Speaker 2: time the thunder go down the floor, their object is
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Speaker 2: to get a foul call. Yeah, like not even trying
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Speaker 2: to do something else, and then if they get impeded
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Speaker 2: it's like we're trying to get to the foul line.
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Speaker 2: That is our main objective, number one, and that's where
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Speaker 2: I draw the line. I'm like, okay, Like it's one
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Speaker 2: thing to you know, try and push the envelope, play
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Speaker 2: the rules of the game, and you know, try and
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Speaker 2: get as much from that aspect of the game as
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Speaker 2: you can. But when that's your sole goal every time
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Speaker 2: you go down the floor, that's when it becomes a
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Speaker 2: little bit gross to watch for me.
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Speaker 1: I would tend to agree. And like you said, I
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Speaker 1: think it's interesting now how they are. They've kind of
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Speaker 1: had a lot of part of the rest of the
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Speaker 1: country turn against them, and we're very much against them here.
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Speaker 1: So maybe San Antonio can force a game seven, hope so,
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Speaker 1: and maybe the Knicks, if not, can take care of
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Speaker 1: business one or the other. We'll see. But yeah, I
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Speaker 1: don't know what tonight's a little bit of a little
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Speaker 1: bit conundrum for me. What do I do it's nothing
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Speaker 1: else on? Well, I know, actually what I'll do. I
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Speaker 1: gotta I gotta work on golf tournament stuff. So that's fine.
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Speaker 1: I can I can do that with nothing in the
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Speaker 1: background tonight. Yeah, I'll try to beep your thanks be
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Speaker 1: a change of pace, why not. Yeah, that's never how
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Speaker 1: hockey either. I know it sucks. It's a tough time
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Speaker 1: of the year. So and the Thursdays, you know, because
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Speaker 1: there's no baseball teams off whatever. Okay, I'm gonna spend
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Speaker 1: We'll get into the baseball team a little bit more. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: in the one o'clock hour, EO Sarrus at one twenty today,
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Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about the manners at one o'clock.
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Speaker 1: The team coming off just an absolute ass whooping of
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Speaker 1: the Athletics of Sacramento slash Vegas slash Oakland, Yester over
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Speaker 1: the last three days. We were on the air yesterday
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Speaker 1: during the final game of the series revsnod Er, big
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Speaker 1: home run, Julio continues to be hot. They get things done.
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Speaker 2: Just seemed like they had the complete series for once, Yes,
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Speaker 2: for once.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think that's yeah, because the pitching was there.
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Speaker 2: Well, and the thing is, everyone was there. Everyone can
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Speaker 2: make the caveat of the of the hitting like, oh
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Speaker 2: yeah you hit, but it was in a little league ballpark. Well,
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Speaker 2: then you better give the pitching its dues because they
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Speaker 2: did the same thing. They shut down, completely shut down
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Speaker 2: a good a's lineup, a very good offense in that.
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Speaker 1: Ballpark, right, No, I agree with you there, and they
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Speaker 1: come home with their in first place. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if anybody we're gonna you're again, you're the tallest short person,
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Speaker 1: you're twenty eight and twenty nine in this division. But
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Speaker 1: it just shows that you can play this. This is
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Speaker 1: the division this year. This is the division we've been
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Speaker 1: talking about on thish On Molli Watt forever. This division
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Speaker 1: you can literally sleeplock through it all year long and
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Speaker 1: you're going to be just fine. You're going to win
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Speaker 1: the division. Hell, even before they jumped into first place,
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Speaker 1: they were only a half game out of the wildcard spot, right,
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Speaker 1: A low five hundred. That's how bad the American League is.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I mentioned this too yesterday, at this point
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Speaker 2: last year, so it's not just this year. Everyone's like, oh,
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Speaker 2: this is a historically terrible year. At this point last
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Speaker 2: year May twenty eighth, the Toronto Blue Jays best record
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Speaker 2: in the American League at the end of the year
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Speaker 2: and the Milwaukee Brewers best record in baseball at the
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Speaker 2: end of the year were both below five hundred at
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Speaker 2: this point last year. So it's it's normal for things
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Speaker 2: to not yet kind of shift its way out. The
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Speaker 2: good teams haven't separated themselves completely just yet. I know
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Speaker 2: the Rays are thirty four and nineteen. That's a facade.
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Speaker 2: They're not that good. I know the Yankees are there,
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Speaker 2: and I think they are good because they just got
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Speaker 2: Garrett Cole back. But we don't know what the picture
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Speaker 2: is going to look like. So the fact that Mariners
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Speaker 2: right now feels like a lot has gone wrong and
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Speaker 2: you're twenty eight and twenty nine in first place in
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Speaker 2: the AOST, I'll take that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think your goal you and I've talked about
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Speaker 1: this before. I think your goal for the Mariners too,
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Speaker 1: is like the team you kind of need to keep
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Speaker 1: an eye on, I think would be Cleveland. Yeah right,
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Speaker 1: you want to have the second bet, your second seed,
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Speaker 1: pretty good chance you're not going to have the one seed.
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Speaker 1: I know we got one hundred and five games left,
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Speaker 1: is that right?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I understand that. Here's the problem. I mean, the Yankees
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Speaker 1: and the Rays are both well ahead of you, right.
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Speaker 1: One of those will be a wildcard team. One of
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Speaker 1: those is probably going to be a play is going
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Speaker 1: to win the division, barring something crazy. Well, like you'd
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Speaker 1: need to utter collapse by not one, but both, like
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Speaker 1: by both to get to that point. But like I said,
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Speaker 1: like again, let's just go back. The team that is
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Speaker 1: the third wildcard team right now is also two games
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Speaker 1: under five hundred, and that would be the Twins. You're
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Speaker 1: only a game ahead of them. You're going to be
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Speaker 1: a playoff team. The question is what kind of playoff team?
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Speaker 1: And I just I thought what they did in Sacramento
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Speaker 1: was awesome. Go down there, re establish who the big
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Speaker 1: dog is in the American League West. And they did that.
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Speaker 1: Like listen, a's fun little story, nice and cute. Yeah, aaya,
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Speaker 1: you're not good.
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Speaker 2: No, right, it's not a good baseball.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rangers are probably only the only legitimate threat, I
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Speaker 1: would say right in this division. They're the only legitimate threat.
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Speaker 1: And that doesn't feel like much of a threat either.
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Speaker 1: It's just take care of business, do your thing, and
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Speaker 1: they did. And the run differentials crazy, you know, I
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Speaker 1: think it was you and me or maybe Dick and
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Speaker 1: I yesterday talking about it. They're plus twenty four. That's
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Speaker 1: the same as the Rays. Now the Yankees are plus
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Speaker 1: eighty nine.
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Speaker 2: Eh, yeah, that's the best team in the American League, Yank.
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Speaker 1: How about being a plus eighty nine run differential, which
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Speaker 1: is third best in baseball, number one in the American League,
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Speaker 1: and you're not even in first place in your division
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Speaker 1: because and the Razor are plus twenty four. But like
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Speaker 1: the Razor facade, Well, like Dick and I were talking yesterday,
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Speaker 1: the thing with the run differential, it also shows with
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Speaker 1: the Mariners they do one of two things. They absolutely
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Speaker 1: annihilate a team or they lose a one run game.
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Speaker 1: They're seven and twelve in one run games. Like that's
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Speaker 1: what they do. It's so either you go to the
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Speaker 1: ballpark this weekend to watch the Arizona I think it's
12:14
Speaker 1: nineties Throwback Night or something like that. Yeah, you go
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Speaker 1: to the game this weekend and it's like they're either
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Speaker 1: going to win a blowout or lose a close one.
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Speaker 1: So if just root for a blowout because that's what's
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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Yeah, a couple runs early. Yeah, we'll previewed
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Speaker 1: a little bit too. We'll talk to Emoi about Arizona.
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Speaker 1: They're they're pretty good right now. Yeah, they're nine and
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Speaker 1: one of their last ten games, if won five in
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Speaker 1: a row. There's seven games above five hundred. Yeah, they're
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Speaker 1: starting to come on. They get some guys healthy and
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Speaker 1: away you go. So that's coming up this weekend. So
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Speaker 1: I was texting with Ian Rappaport today, who now is
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Speaker 1: like uber busy, like this ESPN things just cutting into stuff.
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Speaker 1: So we were hoping to get him on. We can't.
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Speaker 1: He's on the air until three thirty our time. But
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Speaker 1: the story came out yesterday. I know Greg wrote a
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Speaker 1: storry about it in the News Tribune as well. The
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Speaker 1: this is from This is Greg's tweet and from his
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Speaker 1: story from soft to scorching in weeks. The sale of
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champion Seahawks now is a robust market.
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Speaker 1: Sale may happen in August. Per Ian Rapaport, Several potential
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Speaker 1: buyers submitted intense to bid. The price can set a
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Speaker 1: US sports record in terms of sale. There's a lot there.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot there. I'm gonna ask a question to
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Speaker 1: you guys in the next segment for you to comment
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Speaker 1: on that. To come a Dodge text line four nine
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Speaker 1: four or five one, or via the talkbacks, you can
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Speaker 1: talk into the little red microphone and speak. Even though
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Speaker 1: Jess isn't here, we still welcome those Anders will grab
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Speaker 1: some of those. If you want to get your chime in,
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Speaker 1: I'll give you the topic in the next segment. But
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Speaker 1: a couple of things to know I asked. I did
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Speaker 1: ask Rap? I said multiple? To find multiple in terms
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Speaker 1: of groups, he says there are at least two. There
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Speaker 1: are at least two bits names not revealed, but at
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Speaker 1: least two bits. So the definition of multiple, well, he
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Speaker 1: didn't say three. He said two. He knows of two.
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Speaker 1: He knows of two. So if he knows of two,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with two right now. Maybe there's another
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Speaker 1: one out there in the works, does it, But right
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Speaker 1: now there's two. The thing I wanted to ask him
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Speaker 1: is the stadium. We brought it up the other day,
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Speaker 1: and he says, I don't see that as a huge deal.
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Speaker 1: They love the land, that's not a problem where the
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Speaker 1: location is. But the stadium he didn't think is a
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Speaker 1: huge deal. Which that's from Rap. Okay, So because I
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Speaker 1: think that's an important part to look at. Is the
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Speaker 1: lease runs out in twenty thirty one. There's options and
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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Twenty thirty one is not that far away.
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Speaker 1: It's five years away.
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Speaker 2: It's closer to twenty thirty one than it is to
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, right, which is weird.
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Speaker 1: The appetite for anybody to well, first of all, if
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Speaker 1: you have an owner, it's going to come in and
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Speaker 1: spend let's just say, for argument's sake, ten million dollars,
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Speaker 1: ten billion dollars, if that's what it is, if it
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Speaker 1: could set a record, it's going to be in that range.
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Speaker 1: So you've already done that to buy the team. How
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Speaker 1: much of a true desire are you going to have
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Speaker 1: to get into the probably a couple billion dollar business
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Speaker 1: of building a new building. You're not, I don't think.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you'd have to be. It would have to
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Speaker 1: be one of the very few people in this world
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Speaker 1: and that could do that. Steve Balmer that have blank
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Speaker 1: you money, it blank you money, Right, We've talked about
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Speaker 1: that with the Sonics sale or the Sonics like it's
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Speaker 1: going to be the group here unless unless someone with
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Speaker 1: blank you money comes in and says, I'll buy it,
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Speaker 1: I don't care about the least, or I'll buy it.
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Speaker 1: I'll build a new building, you know, somewhere else, a
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Speaker 1: basketball building. But I don't think that's going to happen.
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Speaker 1: Like blank you money is hard to find We've talked
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Speaker 1: a lot about Tom Dundon Dunham, Portland. Well, this clown
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Speaker 1: is you know he bought the Blazers for what a
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Speaker 1: little over four billion? Yeah, but he really didn't. He
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Speaker 1: has fifteen percent of that. He has a couple of
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Speaker 1: partners that have a percentage of it. They only have
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Speaker 1: eighty percent of the purchase price right now has been
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Speaker 1: paid Kenzano total us that last night last week. So
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Speaker 1: if that's the case, you're at eighty percent. Like, so
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Speaker 1: not everybody has that kind of money? Is the point
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Speaker 1: like to go and then I'm gonna go build a building? Right?
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Speaker 1: It's just not it doesn't seem feasible, which I think
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Speaker 1: is the one concern you would have. Maybe maybe there's.
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Speaker 2: More, but I mean that's the precursor for someone who
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Speaker 2: doesn't want the team to stay here. Right.
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Speaker 1: Well, and then you know, I the only thing I'm
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Speaker 1: always hesitant about is when I hear people say, and
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Speaker 1: this has been written and talked about a lot, well,
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Speaker 1: i mean, what's a better option than Seattle in terms
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Speaker 1: of a city. Well, I'll just go through just let's
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Speaker 1: just talk about that. Just stop there and just talk
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Speaker 1: about that for a second.
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Speaker 2: You could say the same thing about the Sonics.
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Speaker 1: Boom, thank you very much. That's Oklahoma City was definitely
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Speaker 1: not a better option, not even not even close in
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Speaker 1: terms of the market. And the hell back then, we
17:09
Speaker 1: were still on the rise. We were tech capital of
17:14
Speaker 1: the country, not named San Jose. We were flying up
17:17
Speaker 1: the radar, up the up, the up, up the charts, man,
17:20
Speaker 1: and and we lost it to a bunch of dudes
17:23
Speaker 1: in a dustbel I don't even know what the hell there.
17:25
Speaker 1: What's what's the main source of the economy in Oklahoma City?
17:30
Speaker 1: Is it lentils or something? I don't know. That's pullman,
17:32
Speaker 1: So I don't know what it meane like yeah, like
17:35
Speaker 1: so that the market doesn't matter if someone has a
17:38
Speaker 1: better option, I just don't think they do. And you know,
17:43
Speaker 1: part of what the NFL likes is the regionalization of
17:48
Speaker 1: the league, Like every part of the country is taken
17:50
Speaker 1: care of oil and natural gas, oh god, natural gas.
17:53
Speaker 1: That's right. Aubrey, the late Aubrey Energy Well, he was
17:57
Speaker 1: he was the other He kind of was more than
18:00
Speaker 1: guy than Bennett was. And then he then that that
18:03
Speaker 1: particular business or.
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Speaker 2: Apparently the city sits in the middle of an active
18:07
Speaker 2: oil field. Interesting.
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Speaker 1: Of course it does.
18:09
Speaker 2: Of course it does gross, smelly, disgusting.
18:13
Speaker 1: Well, you know what if that's the case, you know
18:15
Speaker 1: how you can buy our love back. Loklahoma City. Give
18:17
Speaker 1: us some gas prices under six dollars a gallon here,
18:19
Speaker 1: let's go, why don't you help us out? Help out? Listen,
18:22
Speaker 1: you took our team, So that's some oil fired up here. Man,
18:25
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's I don't think about you. I'm kind
18:27
Speaker 1: of talking about paying six dollars a gallon?
18:29
Speaker 2: So what do you have?
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Speaker 1: Seven?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
18:34
Speaker 1: Got moving the burbs. Of course, then you're moving the burbs,
18:36
Speaker 1: you're paying less for gas where you're spending more on
18:38
Speaker 1: you get in here? Yeah, exactly, all right. Busy show
18:42
Speaker 1: coming up today, we'll get to the kind of the
18:44
Speaker 1: question of the day. I'll throw it at Andrews. Thought
18:45
Speaker 1: you guys as well get some talkbacks give I mean
18:47
Speaker 1: you get some text messages as well. H Ino Sarah's
18:50
Speaker 1: coming up at one twenty today and we'll check in
18:52
Speaker 1: with our good friend Corbyn Smith. He'll be on at
18:54
Speaker 1: two o'clock. He had a good story in the Emerald
18:57
Speaker 1: City Spectrum. We'll kind of talk about some of the
19:00
Speaker 1: not just storylines I think, I think, really for me,
19:02
Speaker 1: just what were the true spots of competition for the
19:06
Speaker 1: Hawks as we head into June and July and and
19:09
Speaker 1: away we go. It's such a strange team that it
19:13
Speaker 1: returns as a Super Bowl champion, effectively almost everyone and
19:17
Speaker 1: the guys they didn't return obviously wins the Super Bowl MVP.
19:21
Speaker 1: That's a one game thing, by the way, with ken Walker,
19:24
Speaker 1: so let's not overblow it too much. I think you
19:27
Speaker 1: could have looked at guys on the defense. I'm not
19:28
Speaker 1: taking any away from ken Walker. I love the guy,
19:31
Speaker 1: but like you could have named the defensive guy too,
19:33
Speaker 1: et cetera. But they replaced him with the first round pick.
19:36
Speaker 1: They replaced Requell, and they replaced more than likely Kobe Bryant,
19:39
Speaker 1: if not internally externally with Bud Clark and Mafey. He
19:43
Speaker 1: had a great win rate, didn't put cup quarterbacks on
19:45
Speaker 1: their backs. They got a guy they might have upgraded
19:48
Speaker 1: with Fowler they may have, and some other guys internally so.
19:52
Speaker 2: And yet somehow everyone's obsessed with the Rams.
19:55
Speaker 1: Well, they got better, Seattle stayed Seattle, might I think, Well,
20:01
Speaker 1: I'll talk about this with it with because Corbin actually
20:03
Speaker 1: wrote about this Okay, good. How did they get better? Well,
20:06
Speaker 1: they might. They might get better through the natural growth
20:10
Speaker 1: of young players, like we saw that with Bira Murphy
20:13
Speaker 1: from year to one to year two, like his AJ
20:17
Speaker 1: Barner year one to year two. Barner. Barner might be
20:20
Speaker 1: Corban wrote this, and I started looking around. He might
20:22
Speaker 1: be right.
20:23
Speaker 7: A J.
20:23
Speaker 1: Barner, for as just a total tight end, might be
20:26
Speaker 1: a top ten tight end in this league. I agree,
20:28
Speaker 1: like there's better pass catchers, there's better blockers, but in
20:30
Speaker 1: terms of a combo, he's up there. And he took
20:33
Speaker 1: a huge step. So all that we'll discuss. All that
20:35
Speaker 1: will come back ownership for the Seahawks concern level, we'll
20:39
Speaker 1: talk about that next.
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Speaker 1: Four four is the comadage text line four nine four
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Speaker 1: five one. So yeah, the story came out last night.
21:12
Speaker 1: Interesting that they that they had a It went from
21:16
Speaker 1: a soft market to a stadium issue to now red
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Speaker 1: hot market, all in of course of a few days.
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Speaker 1: For the Seahawks sale. The money we're talking about. When
21:27
Speaker 1: you start thinking about the money we're talking about, I mean,
21:29
Speaker 1: it's going to take something to get to that point anyway,
21:32
Speaker 1: money wise, in terms of putting groups together unless you
21:34
Speaker 1: have Blanky money, and there's very few guys to have
21:36
Speaker 1: that sou but Ian Ropport had that story. Softy and
21:40
Speaker 1: Dick has spent a lot of time on this, and
21:41
Speaker 1: I understand why we have we have been, you know,
21:46
Speaker 1: and I saw some stuff that that Dave was tweeting
21:48
Speaker 1: today and people were saying, you know, like, hey, do
21:50
Speaker 1: you care who you sell? Your selling a house, selling
21:53
Speaker 1: a for None of us can relate to what Jody
21:57
Speaker 1: Allen and Burke Cold are going through right now. And
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're going through a hearts I'm just saying,
22:03
Speaker 1: in terms of selling a team, that's an asset the
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Speaker 1: process and the process knowing that prop Unlike Howard Schultz,
22:13
Speaker 1: you probably have a little bit of a how do
22:16
Speaker 1: I want to say this responsibility? I think obligation to
22:19
Speaker 1: the community. So you're not just saying it's not selling
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Speaker 1: a house. You sell a house and you're about to
22:24
Speaker 1: buy a house condo when you eventually sell that. And
22:29
Speaker 1: if you guys, you build your equity up and say, hey,
22:32
Speaker 1: we're gonna expand our family. We want to move to
22:34
Speaker 1: a bigger house, whatever it might be. When you do that,
22:37
Speaker 1: you're not going to care who you sell it to.
22:39
Speaker 1: You're gonna somebody comes in and says, Andrews, you spent
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Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars on this condo. I know it's laughable.
22:45
Speaker 1: I'm just we'll just use that and we're gonna put
22:48
Speaker 1: on the market for fifteen thousand and then all of
22:50
Speaker 1: a sudden you get multiple bids. Well, you'll take the
22:52
Speaker 1: highest bid. You don't care.
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Speaker 2: It's all for you.
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Speaker 1: It's apples and oranges here, folks. So trying to compare
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Speaker 1: selling a house or a car or something like that
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Speaker 1: to selling a sports franchise in a city, I think
23:06
Speaker 1: we had to get a little bit of a step
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Speaker 1: back right and say, hey, wait a second, that's it's
23:10
Speaker 1: not the same thing. It just is not the same thing.
23:15
Speaker 1: So that being said, the responsibility they have, I think
23:19
Speaker 1: they do have one, now do they? And Greg wrote
23:23
Speaker 1: but wrote about it and talked about it today. It's
23:25
Speaker 1: not just them, it's the NFL. Yeah, it's and it's
23:29
Speaker 1: the third party law firm that kind of is the
23:31
Speaker 1: conduit and kind of putting this together, and in a
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Speaker 1: way you go. It is a multi tiered process of
23:38
Speaker 1: people and entities involved in selling an NFL franchise. Unless
23:44
Speaker 1: it was Daniel Snyder who was forced to sell it,
23:47
Speaker 1: that's a different deal and the NFL broke or that
23:49
Speaker 1: and the way they went this is a little bit
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Speaker 1: different as far as how it affects you as a
23:55
Speaker 1: Seahawks fan. And that's kind of what I want to
23:57
Speaker 1: talk about today. That's kind of what I want to
23:59
Speaker 1: get into a little bit. I think it's it's important
24:04
Speaker 1: to understand the history that we have here, and we
24:09
Speaker 1: always point to Howard Schultz, rightfully, so rightfully. So, first
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Speaker 1: of all, it appeared outwardly early. Maybe Howard is a
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Speaker 1: decent owner. But do we blame Barry acurately for selling
24:24
Speaker 1: it to Howard Schultz, who then ultimately sold it to
24:28
Speaker 1: a guy that moved it out of town with that
24:30
Speaker 1: sole intention. Maybe that's a stretch. Maybe Howard seemed and
24:35
Speaker 1: at the time I could see why, Hey, this guy's
24:37
Speaker 1: built up this Starbucks thing to something else, and he's here,
24:40
Speaker 1: he's local, he's not from here, but he is now
24:43
Speaker 1: perfect right, and we all know what happened. 's go
24:46
Speaker 1: back in time even more. The Northstrom family is beloved
24:49
Speaker 1: in Seattle, beloved rightfully. So build up this great business Northtroom's,
24:55
Speaker 1: I mean, the brand itself, how they do their business,
24:58
Speaker 1: doing things the right way. They sold the Seahawks to
25:01
Speaker 1: Ken Barring. Okay, they sold the Seahawks to Ken Barring.
25:07
Speaker 1: Cut it any way you want. They sold the Seahawks
25:10
Speaker 1: to Ken Barring. That's that's not good. Ken Barring obviously
25:17
Speaker 1: tried to move the team, did move the team for
25:19
Speaker 1: a day or two, but he tried to move the team,
25:22
Speaker 1: So that did happen. So there's there's not just one
25:26
Speaker 1: situation in Seattle with a team getting sold to poor
25:30
Speaker 1: ownership where we have, you know, a lot to kind
25:34
Speaker 1: of be worried about. There's more to it than that.
25:37
Speaker 1: I'll even add one more. I think the other part
25:40
Speaker 1: you could add is just the bad ownership the Mariners
25:43
Speaker 1: suffered through for years, you know, I mean, George R.
25:47
Speaker 1: Juris just Smullion wasn't great. You know, before the Japanese
25:53
Speaker 1: ownership came in kind of stabilized things with Nintendo. They
25:57
Speaker 1: there are some that still don't like Mariner's current ownership.
26:00
Speaker 1: I don't know, they seem okay to me. They've they've
26:03
Speaker 1: you know, like we can we just want to see
26:06
Speaker 1: a world series here.
26:07
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of this is damning with
26:10
Speaker 2: faint praise, as Chris Crawford would say, but there's a
26:12
Speaker 2: lot worse, a lot worse position like situations in the marriage.
26:16
Speaker 1: Sorry, payroll, and like I think I think we judge
26:19
Speaker 1: this team, this ownership group more over the next few
26:22
Speaker 1: years as some of these pictures have their contracts come up,
26:25
Speaker 1: and what are you going to spend on these guys
26:28
Speaker 1: or are you going to keep them? Trying to make
26:29
Speaker 1: sure you can keep them all here.
26:30
Speaker 2: I mean they've a still now every guy that you've
26:31
Speaker 2: wanted to keep, you have.
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Speaker 1: That's I think they need credit for that, ye like,
26:35
Speaker 1: like like they kept cal they kept Julio cold Emerson,
26:39
Speaker 1: They got ahead of the game on right, they've invested
26:42
Speaker 1: in Castile when they first when they made the.
26:44
Speaker 2: Move and again at the time, still a really good move,
26:47
Speaker 2: still really good. I know you a lot of people
26:48
Speaker 2: like to bag on his contract nowadays, but it's was
26:52
Speaker 2: still a fantastic move.
26:53
Speaker 4: For them.
26:54
Speaker 1: A side note, I never have understood why fans worry
26:59
Speaker 1: in a non salary cap league about what a team
27:03
Speaker 1: is paying a guy, Like why do you care? Why
27:07
Speaker 1: do you in any way, shape or form care. Now
27:10
Speaker 1: if you say it's well, because they have a budget
27:12
Speaker 1: they can't go over and they're paying this guy too much. Okay,
27:16
Speaker 1: those budgets are imaginary. They're not set in stone because
27:20
Speaker 1: wait for it again, they don't have a salary cap,
27:24
Speaker 1: at least not yet today. There's a lot coming out
27:26
Speaker 1: about that, proposing the salary cap at two hundred and
27:28
Speaker 1: forty five million.
27:29
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ah, And as long as the guy's doing something right,
27:33
Speaker 2: literally anything that you want to keep him on the team,
27:36
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter.
27:36
Speaker 1: How because when we looked at like Jamal Adams horrible
27:39
Speaker 1: contract right hard salary cap in the NFL, there were
27:42
Speaker 1: people that hated the cracking contracts for FIRS channel Seems
27:48
Speaker 1: Brandon on tour, Well, we talked about money that. I mean,
27:50
Speaker 1: you could still maybe argue Channeler Sevemens, but his both
27:52
Speaker 1: of those contracts are in the one fifty in terms
27:55
Speaker 1: of there's one hundred and fifty more players in the
27:57
Speaker 1: league that make more than them. And I can tell
27:59
Speaker 1: you right now now, if you take say sixty of
28:02
Speaker 1: those guys might be defencemen, there aren't sixty better defensemen
28:05
Speaker 1: than Beta Montur. There probably aren't sixty better centers than
28:08
Speaker 1: Channel or Stevenson, depending on how you would whatever numbers are.
28:13
Speaker 1: But that's a hard cap league I can. I'll dance
28:15
Speaker 1: with you there, so it doesn't matter. So you guys
28:18
Speaker 1: worry about that, that's one thing. But what the actual
28:20
Speaker 1: sale of the Seahawks. I guess my question to everyone
28:23
Speaker 1: is this, are you concerned about the sale? Is is
28:28
Speaker 1: something that you kind of think about and you worry about.
28:31
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, why why I find myself
28:38
Speaker 1: not being concerned. I find myself not even to be
28:43
Speaker 1: honest with you, not even thinking twice about it right now?
28:48
Speaker 1: I guess maybe I have blind trust. I understand the
28:51
Speaker 1: history here, we just went through it. We know what
28:55
Speaker 1: bad ownership looks like. We have seen bad ownership for well,
28:58
Speaker 1: the hockey team, you can includecause the five years in
29:00
Speaker 1: and it's outside on ice. They seem to do things
29:03
Speaker 1: the right way. It's led by lad Wiki and I
29:05
Speaker 1: think we know what that's all about. All positive, But
29:07
Speaker 1: baseball in football, we've seen poor ownership basketball when we
29:11
Speaker 1: had it, we saw the worst ownership the last two guys,
29:15
Speaker 1: Howie and Clayton. So are you concerned? Ali follows toward
29:20
Speaker 1: to you Andrews is the pending Seahawks sale and Rapaport saying,
29:24
Speaker 1: now the market's hot, are you concerned or what would
29:28
Speaker 1: concern you?
29:30
Speaker 2: Your text to rap Aport asking if they had any
29:34
Speaker 2: plans on the building being either moved or renovated or
29:38
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and him saying that no, they liked
29:41
Speaker 2: the area and that's not like a concern. I guess
29:44
Speaker 2: it's kind of paraphrasing what you said. That kind of
29:47
Speaker 2: alleviates any concern for me.
29:48
Speaker 1: So the stadium thing that came out the other day.
29:50
Speaker 2: That that raised my eyebrow. Okay for sure. Okay, because
29:54
Speaker 2: if again I wasn't very old, But that was the
29:57
Speaker 2: precursor to everything that went wrong with the son Ex
30:00
Speaker 2: was key arena, and you could say, and you could say, yes,
30:04
Speaker 2: Clay Bennett obviously always wanted to move them when he
30:07
Speaker 2: bought the Sonics, but he did it, and he kind
30:11
Speaker 2: of justified it by saying that this isn't a good
30:13
Speaker 2: enough arena for us and that was the reason the
30:15
Speaker 2: NBA signed off on it and all that stuff. So
30:18
Speaker 2: that if that's okay, if everything's good with the with
30:21
Speaker 2: the stadium, and I realized that it's not the most
30:24
Speaker 2: up to date stadium in the NFL, and there probably
30:26
Speaker 2: will be some sort of you know, updates so to
30:30
Speaker 2: speak with Loomenfield in the next few years. Sure that's
30:33
Speaker 2: different than completely moving into it to Bellevue or Renton
30:36
Speaker 2: or whatever.
30:37
Speaker 1: It was crazy about the updates and I'll just go back.
30:42
Speaker 1: So that's a big bone of contention. We can use
30:44
Speaker 1: our friends down in Portland again for example. Yeah, with
30:46
Speaker 1: the Motive Center right when I before I came here.
30:50
Speaker 1: So when I was there two thousand and two through
30:53
Speaker 1: two thousand and six felt longer than that. Maybe it's
30:57
Speaker 1: just because in Portland it felt longer than that. But anyway,
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Speaker 1: they did and Paul Allen, they did some They did
31:05
Speaker 1: some financial gymnastics back and forth. Who owns it as
31:08
Speaker 1: the city, I'm going to give it back to you.
31:09
Speaker 1: I'm gonna file for bankruptcy with the building. He did
31:10
Speaker 1: that a couple of times, like they did a lot.
31:13
Speaker 1: But they did some massive renovations even when I was there,
31:16
Speaker 1: they've done renovations since that time. They still need to
31:19
Speaker 1: do more renovations at the Modus Center to bring it
31:21
Speaker 1: up to date in terms of, you know, the in
31:23
Speaker 1: and outs of semis and trucks and shows. They need
31:26
Speaker 1: to do some stuff with the kitchen. They need to
31:28
Speaker 1: do a bunch of things. They have upgraded the building
31:31
Speaker 1: over the years and they're going to do it again.
31:32
Speaker 1: They need to do it again before the Women's Final
31:34
Speaker 1: Four goes there. So they've done all those things. And
31:38
Speaker 1: that's kind of what they have done here in Seattle
31:40
Speaker 1: with lumen Field. It's nothing that like if you just
31:43
Speaker 1: look at the stadium and the drone flying overhead and
31:48
Speaker 1: and what you see from that or or just you know,
31:51
Speaker 1: as you walk in, if you're sitting in the upper
31:52
Speaker 1: deck or sitting in the Lord, you may not notice
31:55
Speaker 1: a ton. But they have. They've like in terms of
31:57
Speaker 1: the suite safe, changed the end zone sweet, They've done
32:00
Speaker 1: stuff with a lot of interiors, a lot of stuff,
32:02
Speaker 1: the kind of the the guts of the building. Yeah,
32:04
Speaker 1: there's only so much you can do. Right. The building
32:08
Speaker 1: is fine, But I think you know when Rap says, yeah,
32:10
Speaker 1: he doesn't think the building's going to be issued. Then
32:11
Speaker 1: then we can take that story the other day and
32:13
Speaker 1: just like we should have at the time, flush it.
32:16
Speaker 1: But what would be another concern? What concerns do you have?
32:19
Speaker 1: Because this is something that people I feel like are
32:21
Speaker 1: kind of losing sleepover, is like the pending sale of
32:24
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. So I would ask what is the what
32:26
Speaker 1: is your concern? Like, what would your concern be?
32:29
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the biggest things is just having
32:31
Speaker 2: an owner that I can feel like I like supporting,
32:36
Speaker 2: because you're every time you go to a game, every
32:38
Speaker 2: time you buy concessions, every time you buy a jersey,
32:40
Speaker 2: anything related to the Seahawks, you're supporting that owner. And
32:44
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's me being a little righteous
32:46
Speaker 2: so to speak, but I like having an owner that,
32:50
Speaker 2: you know, I I like putting my money behind, so
32:53
Speaker 2: to speak. So having someone who doesn't, you know, cut
32:58
Speaker 2: corners and do things in that way, it's not the
33:00
Speaker 2: end of the world. If if all, you know, kind
33:03
Speaker 2: of works itself back towards the Seahawks on the field
33:07
Speaker 2: being successful, then fine, But I still would much prefer
33:11
Speaker 2: to have someone who I can, you know, feel like
33:14
Speaker 2: the community can get behind, because that was always the
33:16
Speaker 2: case with Paul Allen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no matter what.
33:18
Speaker 2: And you could tell the players liked, you know, playing
33:23
Speaker 2: for him, the fans liked supporting his team, and that
33:29
Speaker 2: isn't always the case across the NFL.
33:31
Speaker 1: Good stuff. All right, let's do this. We'll take a
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Speaker 1: quick break four nine four five one. That is the
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Speaker 1: send some talkbacks in as well. Fire away your questions, thoughts, comments,
33:42
Speaker 1: concerns on this topic and much more when we come back. Oh,
33:47
Speaker 1: every now and then, you know what is almost a
33:51
Speaker 1: perfect storm for finding the dumbest thing you're going to
33:53
Speaker 1: hear today? Oh boy, it's something involving the NCAA. It
33:57
Speaker 1: really is every time. Like you could prob we could
34:00
Speaker 1: probably do this segment every day and make it only
34:03
Speaker 1: NCAA like centric and we still probably win. It'd be
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Speaker 1: a win for us every single day. The dumbest thing
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Speaker 1: Well, like I said, we can always we can always
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Speaker 1: go to the NC Double A and see what they've
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Speaker 1: got cooking these days. Uh So, the Southern Conference Mercer
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Speaker 1: Bears did not get picked and selected for the NCAA
35:06
Speaker 1: Baseball Tournament, which begins tomorrow across the country. And you're saying, well,
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Speaker 1: what does that matter? Well, if you think for a
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Speaker 1: second that expanding playoffs, expanding tournaments, anything like that is
35:22
Speaker 1: going to put teams in that are probably more deserving
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Speaker 1: from smaller conference than very mu mediocre teams from bigger conferences,
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Speaker 1: You're crazy. The numbers don't back that up. This is
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Speaker 1: NCUBA Baseball Selection Committee Chair Michael Alford, who is from
35:41
Speaker 1: Florida State by the way of the ACC, talking about
35:45
Speaker 1: the biggest reason Mercer got left out and North Carolina
35:50
Speaker 1: State from the ACC got in.
35:55
Speaker 5: How about another team that didn't make the field, Mercer
35:58
Speaker 5: a top thirty RPI forty four wins, including a win
36:02
Speaker 5: over Georgia Tech regular season conference champions.
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Speaker 1: Why was that not enough to get them in?
36:09
Speaker 9: Really looking at the strength of schedule, and especially non
36:11
Speaker 9: conference strength to schedule.
36:13
Speaker 1: That was something that stood.
36:14
Speaker 9: Out to the conference. And you compare them to other
36:16
Speaker 9: teams like Senata Barbara who intently went out and scheduled tough.
36:20
Speaker 9: You look at Troy intently scheduled tough, and looking at
36:23
Speaker 9: the geographic region where Mercer is located, we felt that
36:27
Speaker 9: they had those opportunities to go out and get some
36:29
Speaker 9: games to improve their RPI and strength to schedule, and
36:32
Speaker 9: that just didn't have. They had a fantastic season, but
36:35
Speaker 9: when you compare them to other teams who went out
36:37
Speaker 9: and really had an intentionally scheduled tough games, we felt
36:42
Speaker 9: that the other team's got the nod.
36:43
Speaker 5: Michael Alford, Selection Committee Chair.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Mike, Thanks, thanks, thanks Mike. Appreciate appreciate your help there, Mike.
36:55
Speaker 1: They beat the number two overall seed did Mercer this year,
37:00
Speaker 1: which would be Georgia Tech fairly recently too.
37:03
Speaker 2: And wait for it, their non conference schedule.
37:06
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, beat him twelve to nine on
37:10
Speaker 1: May the twelfth. I think that's okay. Yeah, two things
37:14
Speaker 1: jump out. Let's just look at the numbers NC State
37:17
Speaker 1: gets in NC State's non conference strength to schedule two
37:22
Speaker 1: forty two Mercer's non conference strength to schedule to eighteen,
37:26
Speaker 1: Mercer's RPI twenty eight, NC State's RPI fifty one. It
37:34
Speaker 1: is remarkable to me, guy, how somebody could sit there
37:38
Speaker 1: and say that. The other thing, too, is this, there
37:43
Speaker 1: is a forty four win team and now they got
37:47
Speaker 1: drilled by Florida State. And maybe that's in a non
37:50
Speaker 1: conference game in March. Maybe that's what this dude's looking at.
37:53
Speaker 1: And he's part of the committee, he's not all of
37:56
Speaker 1: the committee. But when you say stuff like well they
37:59
Speaker 1: got a stronger how we see that in basketball all
38:04
Speaker 1: the time. We see that all the time in basketball. Hell,
38:08
Speaker 1: football schedule is even harder than basketball, but basketball, like
38:11
Speaker 1: we see that often. Do we want to have a
38:14
Speaker 1: schedule that's tough? Well, yeah, but do you want to
38:18
Speaker 1: play as a big time major program. Do you want
38:21
Speaker 1: to play a mid major that might upset you? Not necessarily?
38:26
Speaker 1: Not necessarily. I don't care anything at all about Mercer baseball.
38:31
Speaker 1: I do care about where we are in college sports,
38:33
Speaker 1: and this is just another example of the big boys
38:36
Speaker 1: doing well and the little guys getting pushed aside. Yeah,
38:39
Speaker 1: and baseball is probably one of those sports that's a
38:42
Speaker 1: little bit more. There's a little more.
38:44
Speaker 4: Parody involved than some of the other bigger sports kind
38:48
Speaker 4: of when you look at it.
38:49
Speaker 1: Every year. Coastal Carolina is a Sun Belt school. They
38:52
Speaker 1: are a national baseball powerhouse. I'll use them for an example. Yes,
38:59
Speaker 1: the Texas's and the LSUS and UCLA's and all that,
39:04
Speaker 1: they're great, but the other school, like, there's a little
39:08
Speaker 1: more parity in baseball. I just I found that not
39:11
Speaker 1: only dumb, but disturbing because as we talk about a
39:13
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen playoff, as we talk about what's going on
39:17
Speaker 1: with all things college athletics, the bill that was proposed yesterday,
39:24
Speaker 1: there's always going to be inequities. There always will be,
39:27
Speaker 1: and that's fine. You can live with that. Just give
39:30
Speaker 1: everybody the same opportunity if you're going to compete for
39:32
Speaker 1: a title. By the way, the other thing about the SEC,
39:34
Speaker 1: we talked about it yesterday with the SEC saying, Hey,
39:36
Speaker 1: maybe we're going to get out of this thing and seceed.
39:39
Speaker 1: Kirby smart going just go on our own. I thought
39:42
Speaker 1: I think it was Greg brought it up this No,
39:44
Speaker 1: it's Chuck brought it up this morning in his final segment.
39:47
Speaker 1: So you're going to go out and recruit kids and
39:48
Speaker 1: say hey, you can come compete for an SEC title
39:51
Speaker 1: every year and make some money. And I say, well,
39:52
Speaker 1: that's cool. What about the No, you're not competing for
39:54
Speaker 1: a national title. You're just competing for an SEC title.
39:56
Speaker 1: It's better than a national title. No, it's not. No,
39:59
Speaker 1: it's not. Let me just check here, last couple national
40:02
Speaker 1: champions Michigan basketball, UCLA women's basketball, Indiana football, Ohio State footballyeah. No, No,
40:11
Speaker 1: it's that's not how it works. It's not how works.
40:14
Speaker 1: We little breaking news for you right now. You have
40:16
Speaker 1: a breaking news sounder. We'll get into this a little
40:21
Speaker 1: bit more with some of the hard numbers. In the
40:22
Speaker 1: top of the hour. We'll talk a little Mariner baseball
40:26
Speaker 1: as well. Perfect I'd have Eno on. Yeah, I'm not
40:31
Speaker 1: sure how much of it. Sure how much Inno's into
40:34
Speaker 1: the salary cap stuff, but people ask him, Yeah, no,
40:37
Speaker 1: I didn't think that too absolutely. As expected, Major League
40:41
Speaker 1: Baseball owners have proposed a hard salary cap to union
40:44
Speaker 1: officials today as they have started to work on the
40:46
Speaker 1: new collective bargain agreement, which the current one runs out
40:49
Speaker 1: at the end of this season. The salary floor for
40:52
Speaker 1: teams beginning in twenty twenty seven would be one hundred
40:55
Speaker 1: and seventy one point two million. That includes player benefits.
40:58
Speaker 1: The ceiling at two hundred forty five million. Now, we'll
41:04
Speaker 1: give you a little bit more context in terms of
41:06
Speaker 1: how many teams andrews doing some work for me right now,
41:08
Speaker 1: how many teams are above that, how many teams are
41:10
Speaker 1: below that, like, how many teams are above the cap,
41:13
Speaker 1: and more maybe as important, how many teams are below
41:15
Speaker 1: the one seventy one. I know there's a bunch, so
41:17
Speaker 1: we'll get to that in the next segment to kind
41:19
Speaker 1: of give you a little feel for what this means.
41:21
Speaker 1: What it does mean is this. We thought that this
41:24
Speaker 1: was coming. We felt like this was coming. We've talked
41:27
Speaker 1: about was she and a lot like the potential for
41:30
Speaker 1: a work stoppage. It feels even more real right now
41:36
Speaker 1: today than it did before we knew this was coming.
41:39
Speaker 1: But now that you see it right there in front
41:41
Speaker 1: of you, Yes, we're gonna we're gonna throw Major League
41:43
Speaker 1: Baseball owners are gonna throw our hard salary cap at
41:46
Speaker 1: the players Union, which is frankly probably the most powerful
41:50
Speaker 1: union in all of all sports in terms of player unions.
41:53
Speaker 1: Is it Majorague Baseball Players Association union. There's some things
41:56
Speaker 1: out there that the players are willing to concede on
41:58
Speaker 1: earlier free agency and things like that. But we've thought
42:02
Speaker 1: all along the moment major league owners are going to
42:04
Speaker 1: fire away a hard salary cap and give that to
42:06
Speaker 1: people and give that to the MLBPA, which is going
42:10
Speaker 1: to be really, frankly, a non starter. And what what
42:13
Speaker 1: would be worrisome is because listen, it's the start of negotiations.
42:18
Speaker 1: You always put your pie in the sky dream offer
42:24
Speaker 1: out there first, and then the other guys do the same,
42:26
Speaker 1: and you try to find a way to come in
42:27
Speaker 1: the middle. This isn't that. This this is a realistic
42:32
Speaker 1: This is something that has never happened in baseball. Most
42:35
Speaker 1: people feel like it never would happen in baseball. It
42:39
Speaker 1: also feels like this is a pretty significant step by
42:43
Speaker 1: the owners to say, listen, we're throwing this out here.
42:47
Speaker 1: This is non negotiable. We're gonna have a salary cap.
42:49
Speaker 1: You're not going to want to do a salary cap.
42:52
Speaker 1: I mean this. This tells you a lockout is probably
42:55
Speaker 1: imminent next year. See I view it differently.
42:58
Speaker 2: I view it the first of all, the actual labor
43:05
Speaker 2: period hasn't ended yet and they're already posing this in May,
43:09
Speaker 2: So I think that's a positive. The fact that they
43:12
Speaker 2: have already put out a hard number. You didn't get
43:16
Speaker 2: this until January of the last time they locked out, right,
43:19
Speaker 2: So this is this is early in the process. They're
43:22
Speaker 2: trying to feel it out, and that's a really high floor.
43:25
Speaker 1: But by the way, there's no feeling out. They know
43:28
Speaker 1: what the reaction is. Yes, they know one hundred percent
43:31
Speaker 1: what the reaction is from the players from the what
43:33
Speaker 1: the reaction from the players would right, which is which
43:35
Speaker 1: is they're holding this middle finger up yeah and something
43:39
Speaker 1: on TV you can't do that, or on YouTube they're
43:42
Speaker 1: holding this finger up and this finger up yeah. But
43:45
Speaker 1: that's because they know it's they know it's non starter.
43:47
Speaker 1: I think I ought there has been a strong feeling
43:51
Speaker 1: for a while that the owners are intent, whether they
43:55
Speaker 1: get the cap or not, they are intent unlocking the
43:58
Speaker 1: players out next year. And you're right, it gets glass
44:03
Speaker 1: half full. Maybe yeah, they're talking now, but they know
44:06
Speaker 1: that this is a non starter. Yeah, So are the
44:11
Speaker 1: owners really going to throw out in May of twenty
44:13
Speaker 1: twenty six? We want a salary cap. Are they really
44:16
Speaker 1: going to come off of that?
44:17
Speaker 2: No, I think there will be a salary cap, by
44:19
Speaker 2: the way.
44:20
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people out there. I mean,
44:22
Speaker 1: I'll just go. Joe's been adamant about this that he
44:25
Speaker 1: didn't think it helps baseball, right, that it just it
44:28
Speaker 1: just doesn't.
44:29
Speaker 2: I don't know if it does, but.
44:31
Speaker 1: It's something I think. I don't know. I've always been
44:37
Speaker 1: torn on the salary cap situation. I think just being
44:39
Speaker 1: here in Seattle, I think to myself, God, if we
44:42
Speaker 1: didn't have a salary cap in the NFL, would we
44:44
Speaker 1: have not had maybe a true dynasty in Seattle with
44:47
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Yeah, like, because the only thing that tore
44:49
Speaker 1: that team apart were the egos and egos and money. Well,
44:53
Speaker 1: the egos can be managed if everyone's getting paid exactly
44:56
Speaker 1: right and and whatever market. You just couldn't afford guys
44:59
Speaker 1: anym more. You know, from deaf guys to starters. You
45:02
Speaker 1: couldn't afford guys. But this owner could. If you have
45:05
Speaker 1: a good owner, this owner could definitely do whatever hell
45:09
Speaker 1: he wants, right. So I was kind of thought, like
45:12
Speaker 1: in the NFL, his heart in the NFL cap is hard,
45:15
Speaker 1: Like it's a there's a little bit of flexibility with
45:19
Speaker 1: the NHL, not much, but a little bit. But there's
45:22
Speaker 1: nothing in the NFL that is flexible. That's a hard
45:26
Speaker 1: ass cap. And then hell, even in I remember Dwight
45:28
Speaker 1: Freenie when he was playing here, do you remember this.
45:30
Speaker 1: Dwight Freeneye was playing in Seattle. He had a handful
45:33
Speaker 1: of games at the end of his career as the
45:34
Speaker 1: pass rusher, played for the Colts Hall of Famer, and
45:37
Speaker 1: they sat him as a healthy scratch one week because
45:40
Speaker 1: they were like ten thousand dollars over the cap or something.
45:43
Speaker 1: That's how hard the NFL cap is. NHL does the
45:45
Speaker 1: same thing. NHL does these cap gymnastics all the time.
45:48
Speaker 1: It's like, why did you guys send a guy down, Well,
45:51
Speaker 1: we only send him down for one day just because
45:53
Speaker 1: we had a clear space. It's every day you've got
45:55
Speaker 1: to be cap compliant. So I've always a little been
45:59
Speaker 1: a little torn on it. Baseball, though, has been so
46:03
Speaker 1: I mean, the NBA's cap is a joke. It's like,
46:05
Speaker 1: here's your cap, and then here's a luxury tax, and
46:07
Speaker 1: then here's a super luxury tax, and there's a super
46:08
Speaker 1: super super duper luxury tax and blah blah blah, you
46:10
Speaker 1: pay whatever you want.
46:11
Speaker 2: To be honest, baseball's a similar They have the tax.
46:14
Speaker 1: Yes, but the tax is spread out amongst all the
46:16
Speaker 1: teams that don't get it, like they don't reach that correct, right.
46:19
Speaker 1: That's that's what Joe's point always has been. There's no
46:22
Speaker 1: excuse for the Pittsburgh Pirates to be awful because you're
46:25
Speaker 1: collecting money from these teams that are spending a ton
46:27
Speaker 1: of money.
46:27
Speaker 10: Yeah.
46:28
Speaker 1: Right, So there's a lot going on there. We'll give
46:29
Speaker 1: you a little more context on where this is because,
46:32
Speaker 1: as Anders mentioned, the basement maybe as important as the ceiling.
46:37
Speaker 2: It's more important in my opinion.
46:38
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that next.
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48:24
Speaker 1: just reading the Bob Nightingale was on with Greg Bell yesterday.
48:26
Speaker 1: Just reading his story in the USA Today and the break.
48:29
Speaker 1: It's a hard cap for the first time since nineteen
48:31
Speaker 1: ninety four. You remember when they proposed see this is
48:34
Speaker 1: an interesting thing, this is it. I forgot about this
48:38
Speaker 1: part of it. So when they proposed that in nineteen
48:41
Speaker 1: ninety four, that resulted later that it was during the season.
48:46
Speaker 1: Do you remember what happened? Lockout, players stroke striked. It
48:50
Speaker 1: was a players strike canceled the World Series that year
48:54
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety four. Wasn't that year that Expos might
48:57
Speaker 1: have won it? Yeah, could have seen baseball in Montreal. Yeah.
49:02
Speaker 2: Also Kingerford Junior could have gotten sixty that year.
49:05
Speaker 1: That's right. So they did that ninety four player strike
49:09
Speaker 1: to cancel the World Series. Thanks for coming, and they
49:12
Speaker 1: found they came off of it obviously, right. So MLB
49:16
Speaker 1: proposed a two hundred and forty five million dollars salary
49:18
Speaker 1: cap including benefits, which is lower, right than a bunch
49:24
Speaker 1: of teams currently. And then also they proposed one hundred
49:27
Speaker 1: and seventy one million dollar salary floor.
49:30
Speaker 2: That's very high.
49:31
Speaker 1: So give me what the numbers look like in terms
49:33
Speaker 1: of like for teams over and under.
49:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, So as of now, I'm just looking at tax
49:38
Speaker 2: payroll because coincidentally, I don't know if this is coincidentally,
49:40
Speaker 2: it probably isn't. I believe the tax threshold right now
49:44
Speaker 2: is two hundred and forty four million, so they upped
49:48
Speaker 2: it by one. But basically, like this is, if you're
49:51
Speaker 2: in the tax right, you would be over the salary
49:53
Speaker 2: cap at this point, and you would have ten teams.
49:56
Speaker 1: That who are those ten teams?
49:58
Speaker 2: Dodgers, Mets, Y, Keys, Phillies, Toronto, Boston, San Diego, Atlanta, Chicago,
50:04
Speaker 2: and Detroit Detroit.
50:07
Speaker 1: So Detroit bad team?
50:10
Speaker 2: Yeah?
50:11
Speaker 1: Who else? San Diego good team? All of the HPI Okay,
50:16
Speaker 1: two games above five hundred.
50:18
Speaker 2: They have been really hot lately. They fired their manager
50:20
Speaker 2: to really good.
50:21
Speaker 1: Met's, that's that's why, because they got they brought in
50:25
Speaker 1: Met's really slow start. They still games not great. Toronto
50:29
Speaker 1: below five hundred, by the way, ye, Boston not good.
50:33
Speaker 1: Boston not good.
50:33
Speaker 2: But those are all like big market teams.
50:35
Speaker 1: That San Diego is the one that surprises me. Yeah,
50:38
Speaker 1: small market. Yeah, but they're having a great year.
50:40
Speaker 2: And they are the who everyone wants the Mariners to be,
50:43
Speaker 2: by the way, right.
50:45
Speaker 1: So there are so how many teams again above it?
50:49
Speaker 2: Ten?
50:49
Speaker 3: Ten?
50:50
Speaker 1: Okay?
50:50
Speaker 2: Yeah?
50:51
Speaker 1: How many teams are below the salary floor.
50:55
Speaker 2: The salary flour which was sea eleven?
51:02
Speaker 1: God, so there'd be eleven teams that would have to
51:04
Speaker 1: increase their payroll. Sorry, twelve twelve twelve teams? Yes, yeah,
51:08
Speaker 1: actually and I see this, yeah yeah, twelve teams. Yeah,
51:11
Speaker 1: so twelve teams would have to increase their payroll. Yeah.
51:14
Speaker 1: Who are those? Who are those twelve teams?
51:16
Speaker 2: The bottom? Miami?
51:18
Speaker 1: Okay? What are they? What's their what's their salary?
51:20
Speaker 2: Million?
51:23
Speaker 1: So they'd have to increase by ninety million dollars?
51:25
Speaker 3: Yeah.
51:26
Speaker 1: Next, I'm sure Athletics probably.
51:28
Speaker 2: No, Athletics are actually the last team on this list.
51:31
Speaker 1: Okay, so Miami's one last.
51:33
Speaker 2: Sorry, Miami's the lowest. Cleveland is the second lowest, and
51:36
Speaker 2: they have a thirty three and twenty five record.
51:38
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
51:39
Speaker 2: Tampa is the third lowest. They have the best record
51:42
Speaker 2: in American League. Chicago, Saint Louis, Washington, Minnesota, Colorado, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee,
51:50
Speaker 2: the Athletics, and Cincinnati are the teams that would need
51:54
Speaker 2: to increase their payroll.
51:56
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me let's try to do something from
52:00
Speaker 1: this if we could. Okay, the what's the most important thing?
52:07
Speaker 1: The basement or the ceiling?
52:11
Speaker 2: I think surface level. Most people would say the ceiling.
52:15
Speaker 2: I actually think the basement is more.
52:16
Speaker 1: Importantay, But the argument against the basement is we'll look
52:19
Speaker 1: what Tampa Day's.
52:19
Speaker 2: Doing, right, but.
52:22
Speaker 1: You shouldn't if I'm a look at what Tampa is doing,
52:26
Speaker 1: and then look at what a team like the Mets
52:28
Speaker 1: it's over the Caps doing. Yes, Boston.
52:30
Speaker 2: My question then to throw it back to you, what
52:32
Speaker 2: is the most important thing to you? Competitive balance?
52:35
Speaker 1: To me, the most important thing is competitive balance. And
52:38
Speaker 1: I think, again this is an argument. If she and
52:42
Speaker 1: was on, he'd be losing his But it feels very
52:48
Speaker 1: and maybe this is really oversimplifying that. A. The parody
52:53
Speaker 1: the competitive balance that say we see in the NFL, right,
52:58
Speaker 1: that we see in the NFL is due in large
53:01
Speaker 1: part to the fact that we have a salary cap,
53:04
Speaker 1: and really in the NFL everyone bumps up against it.
53:07
Speaker 1: There's there's leeway, but really you're you're spending close to
53:11
Speaker 1: that yeah, pretty much by the end of the year,
53:13
Speaker 1: because when you sign draft picks, you bring players in
53:15
Speaker 1: during the course of the year. Don't look at it.
53:17
Speaker 1: Don't look at a salary cap. Now look at it
53:20
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, and like guy goes
53:22
Speaker 1: on injured reserve, you got to bring a player in,
53:24
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, all those things. The NHL is a
53:26
Speaker 1: little different. NHL is different for this reason, kind of
53:30
Speaker 1: like baseball, they have contracts where guys have the ability
53:35
Speaker 1: to be traded or not, like a lot of trade
53:37
Speaker 1: protection and NHL contracts like if you're worth your salt
53:39
Speaker 1: on the second contract, you have some trade protection. So
53:42
Speaker 1: the parody doesn't exist as much because you can't just
53:45
Speaker 1: get traded to Winnipeg or Ottawa or wherever without your
53:50
Speaker 1: consent new mobien claus. So it's a little different. But
53:54
Speaker 1: on the surface in baseball it was seen that way.
53:56
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Two things, Here's how it affects the manners.
53:58
Speaker 1: I think that's this for first of all, just knowing
54:01
Speaker 1: full well and we've known this for a while, this
54:03
Speaker 1: isn't breaking news that there is a strong, strong possibility of,
54:09
Speaker 1: if nothing else, a delay in the start of the
54:12
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven season. This season becomes that much more
54:16
Speaker 1: important for Seadred the the like get to the damn
54:20
Speaker 1: World Series. If there's a lockout for the first part
54:24
Speaker 1: of next year, do it as a defending World Series
54:25
Speaker 1: champs or at least as defending americanly to celebrate a
54:28
Speaker 1: little bit longer, have your pennon up at least right
54:30
Speaker 1: for the al that that is a Mariner thing for me?
54:34
Speaker 1: Number two, does it really help parody? I don't think
54:37
Speaker 1: anybody knows or could note possibly truly until it gets implemented.
54:41
Speaker 1: One seventy one to two forty five. God, that's not
54:45
Speaker 1: much of a difference, like in the grand scheme of things, right,
54:49
Speaker 1: It's not what sixty million, seventy million million.
54:52
Speaker 2: I would expect if this does get implemented, that there
54:55
Speaker 2: is a salary cap it gets significantly higher towards the
54:59
Speaker 2: three hundred range.
55:00
Speaker 1: Well, is my guess one of the things that has
55:03
Speaker 1: been fought for for a while, and this has been
55:07
Speaker 1: the kind of the little the underlying the undercurrent in baseball,
55:11
Speaker 1: because we had this discussion before, is that there are
55:16
Speaker 1: the majority of major League baseball players would rather have
55:22
Speaker 1: would want to have a basement, they'd want to have
55:24
Speaker 1: a floor. Yes. One of the proposals also is the
55:29
Speaker 1: minimum salary going up because the majority of major League
55:34
Speaker 1: baseball players are not making a zillion dollars.
55:36
Speaker 2: They're twenty thirty, forty million dollar players there.
55:39
Speaker 1: But like like look at this Mariner payroll, right, how
55:42
Speaker 1: many guys are not making a lot of money right now?
55:44
Speaker 1: Not a lot? Right?
55:46
Speaker 2: I mean sorry, a lot are not making not a lot?
55:48
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, So there is this so like the floor,
55:52
Speaker 1: the basement, whatever you want to call it for most
55:55
Speaker 1: players would be good in their books, right because it's
56:00
Speaker 1: going to increase the pay for the rank and file.
56:04
Speaker 1: What it does hurt are the high end guys.
56:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guys that are making seventy million dollars, those
56:09
Speaker 2: are the guys it hurts, and that those are the
56:11
Speaker 2: guys that have the power.
56:12
Speaker 1: And they have and may have the power in the
56:14
Speaker 1: labeling correct. Yeah.
56:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, And unfortunately, I think I feel like most baseball players.
56:20
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm very generalizing here, so maybe I'm completely
56:23
Speaker 2: off base, but like you just said, the rank and
56:26
Speaker 2: file players, the majority of the players themselves would sign
56:32
Speaker 2: up for a salary cap and floor if you got
56:35
Speaker 2: rid of the arbitration and service time.
56:43
Speaker 1: And they're talking about shortening the service time to be
56:45
Speaker 1: a free agent by at least a year. I think
56:47
Speaker 1: you can probably have to go more than that.
56:49
Speaker 2: More than I feel like, if this is going to happen,
56:51
Speaker 2: you have to completely eliminate service time and turn it
56:53
Speaker 2: into similar to the NFL. Once you get drafted, it's
56:58
Speaker 2: five years period of story, no matter what, if you've
57:01
Speaker 2: played in Major League Baseball or not. Interesting, it turns
57:05
Speaker 2: into five so then like you can't manipulate it. It's
57:08
Speaker 2: once the guy's ready, you bring him up no matter what,
57:11
Speaker 2: because you want to get the most out of that
57:12
Speaker 2: five years before he turns into a free agent.
57:14
Speaker 1: That's an interesting I don't I don't hate the fact.
57:17
Speaker 2: I kind of like that, and I feel like most
57:18
Speaker 2: players would sign up for that because that's where they
57:20
Speaker 2: get screwed, and that's why they get make them seventy
57:23
Speaker 2: million when they're thirty, because they didn't make any money
57:25
Speaker 2: when they were in their prime.
57:26
Speaker 1: Well, and then part of that ends up being how
57:28
Speaker 1: many of those how many of those contracts don't age well?
57:30
Speaker 1: Exactly right, because most of when you finally get paid,
57:33
Speaker 1: you're a lot older.
57:34
Speaker 2: And the teams that usually give those out are the
57:37
Speaker 2: teams that are at the top of the payroll charts obviously,
57:40
Speaker 2: but they can afford that because they just want the
57:42
Speaker 2: two three years that they can compete with them and
57:45
Speaker 2: then they can just you know, pay guys that are
57:48
Speaker 2: close to retirement.
57:50
Speaker 1: I like, I mean the whole the like you're drafted
57:53
Speaker 1: in Yeah, five years. It's a little different obviously because
57:55
Speaker 1: of it takes guys.
57:57
Speaker 2: And they're younger when they get drafted.
57:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, it takes guys three years, like NFL players get
58:01
Speaker 1: drafted their NFL. Right, there's a minor league system.
58:02
Speaker 2: Maybe it's maybe it's seven, I don't know.
58:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean until you get until you have your
58:07
Speaker 1: full until you have the ability to be a free agent.
58:10
Speaker 1: NHL does they do like the two years and then
58:14
Speaker 1: the first entry level two year contract and then you
58:16
Speaker 1: have like kind of a your restricted free agent for
58:18
Speaker 1: a couple of years.
58:19
Speaker 2: Maybe it's that template, Yeah, that might be.
58:21
Speaker 1: That might be the template to use because because the NHL,
58:24
Speaker 1: you don't have to sign a guy right away. It's
58:26
Speaker 1: a little different though, because if you're draft in baseball,
58:28
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be playing in the minors right away. Yeah.
58:32
Speaker 1: But this whole thing, though, which again we knew was coming,
58:36
Speaker 1: now it becomes more official today just puts on the
58:39
Speaker 1: horizon the strong, strong potential impossibility of seeing a shortened
58:46
Speaker 1: season or shortened season lockout. God help us if we
58:51
Speaker 1: This is where it would be interesting to see see
58:53
Speaker 1: if how acrimonious it gets as the summer months we're on.
58:58
Speaker 1: I mean, would they dare do what they did.
59:00
Speaker 2: Before and just lock out in season?
59:02
Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't even lock house, a player strike. Excuse Yeah,
59:04
Speaker 1: players just middle finger to him and said thanks for coming.
59:07
Speaker 1: Would we dare go down that road? God? I hope not.
59:11
Speaker 2: I don't think so, because.
59:12
Speaker 1: You know what's gonna happen. When that does happen, We're
59:14
Speaker 1: gonna be looking at the stands up. God, the mirrors
59:15
Speaker 1: of like they're like they're like twenty and five in
59:17
Speaker 1: the last twenty five games.
59:19
Speaker 2: Exactly what it would they finally.
59:21
Speaker 1: Go on this run, they figure out this piggyback thing,
59:24
Speaker 1: or they traded cast you and they got a hammer
59:26
Speaker 1: bat that's Donovan's actually healthy and leading off cold, Emerson's
59:31
Speaker 1: just raking. Cal's healthy, and all of a sudden, you know,
59:34
Speaker 1: if you would have been on that pace all year,
59:35
Speaker 1: he would have had a hundred home runs and strike Yeah,
59:38
Speaker 1: and then there's a strike. God, tell me that wouldn't speak.
59:43
Speaker 1: Tell me, that wouldn't be the most Mariner thing, not
59:47
Speaker 1: even something you can blame them for. It would just
59:49
Speaker 1: happened to them.
59:50
Speaker 2: Yep, ancient Indian barrel ground.
59:53
Speaker 1: Very true. All right, we'll take a break. Come back EEno.
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Speaker 1: So thoughts on the news that just came out a
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Speaker 1: while ago on probably not a surprise to anybody, but
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Speaker 1: major League Baseball proposing a hard salary cap today, just
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Speaker 1: a short time ago. What are your thoughts on that
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Speaker 1: we kind of knew it is coming. What are your thoughts?
1:03:23
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't I think it's a solution in search
1:03:28
Speaker 10: of a problem. Actually, I know that it's front of
1:03:32
Speaker 10: mind how the Dodgers have built their teams and how
1:03:35
Speaker 10: they've done. But I don't necessarily feel like that we
1:03:41
Speaker 10: have a problem, a parody problem in baseball. You know,
1:03:46
Speaker 10: in the last twenty five years, we've had twenty two
1:03:49
Speaker 10: unique teams in the World Series. That's seventy three percent
1:03:54
Speaker 10: compared to the NFL sixty three percent, NBA fifty seven percent.
1:03:59
Speaker 10: So you're talking about, you know, seeing different people in
1:04:02
Speaker 10: the World Series. That's that's one thing you can you
1:04:06
Speaker 10: can look at it all sorts of different ways. You
1:04:09
Speaker 10: can look at it at final fours, Final eight's like,
1:04:11
Speaker 10: we do get unique teams in there. We can't forget that.
1:04:15
Speaker 10: Just a few years ago it was the Rangers against
1:04:17
Speaker 10: the d Backs in the world theory. So, you know,
1:04:21
Speaker 10: I don't I don't. Do I think that we could
1:04:25
Speaker 10: rein in the Dodgers a little bit? Do I think
1:04:27
Speaker 10: that they're TV deal a little bit unfair? Yet there
1:04:30
Speaker 10: are things like that that I think can be fixed.
1:04:33
Speaker 10: But the structure is already there. We have a luxury
1:04:36
Speaker 10: tax situation that can act as a cap, you know,
1:04:39
Speaker 10: and can and restrain people. And you know, the the
1:04:44
Speaker 10: Union proposed an idea that was like, hey, why don't
1:04:48
Speaker 10: you just use the luxury tax and tax teams that
1:04:51
Speaker 10: don't spend one hundred and fifty million you know that
1:04:56
Speaker 10: sounds that sounds fine, you know, like make some of
1:04:58
Speaker 10: the teams that aren't invested invest So I think the
1:05:02
Speaker 10: structures are all in place. And as for like horse
1:05:06
Speaker 10: race style analysis and like what's going to happen, I
1:05:10
Speaker 10: kind of feel like baseball has too much at stake
1:05:14
Speaker 10: right now in the marketplace of sports and ideas and culture.
1:05:18
Speaker 10: It has too much at stake to lose time. Now,
1:05:22
Speaker 10: I'd lose spring training time almost certainly they will, but
1:05:26
Speaker 10: lose regular season time. I don't think that they can.
1:05:29
Speaker 10: They can afford it because Manfred made some bad TV
1:05:32
Speaker 10: deals and he messed up the ESPN deal and there
1:05:37
Speaker 10: they are now all set up for what they want
1:05:40
Speaker 10: to do in twenty twenty eight to have as many teams'
1:05:42
Speaker 10: rights as possible, their local TV rights, and go to
1:05:46
Speaker 10: the streamers and sell as many cut up packages as
1:05:50
Speaker 10: they can. And they can't do that if baseball takes
1:05:54
Speaker 10: a step back in popularity. Right now, Baseball has just
1:05:57
Speaker 10: lurched ahead of the NBA in popular in is you know,
1:06:02
Speaker 10: like entrenched as the number two sport. I think that's
1:06:05
Speaker 10: too much to risk. So I think that there there's
1:06:07
Speaker 10: going to be some back and forth there. You know,
1:06:10
Speaker 10: there may be you know, may be some tough times,
1:06:13
Speaker 10: but I don't think that they want to lose a
1:06:15
Speaker 10: half a season or even a month of the season.
1:06:18
Speaker 1: Well said, I I want to point out our two
1:06:20
Speaker 1: national baseball guys we have on every week. You know,
1:06:23
Speaker 1: Sarahs from the Athletic and Rates and Barrel's podcast. Joe
1:06:26
Speaker 1: Shean from the Joshian Newsletter we have on Tuesdays. And
1:06:29
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you know Joe at all,
1:06:30
Speaker 1: but we have Joe on every every Tuesday. You guys
1:06:33
Speaker 1: both said this, two guys, your baseball acumen is higher
1:06:36
Speaker 1: than any of us. That's the same thing. Joe's the
1:06:39
Speaker 1: same way, Like it's not needed. You go through the
1:06:42
Speaker 1: unique guys of the world's teams, of the World Series
1:06:44
Speaker 1: and all the you know, looking for parody. The Dodgers
1:06:47
Speaker 1: are such an outlier that I think that's part of
1:06:49
Speaker 1: the problem, right, people look at the Dodgers yet you know,
1:06:52
Speaker 1: I would make the argument as a fan of sports,
1:06:54
Speaker 1: Like we've talked about this before sometimes whether it's a
1:06:58
Speaker 1: true dynasty winning title or just having the bad guy right,
1:07:02
Speaker 1: having the team we're on the black hat that says
1:07:05
Speaker 1: we want to. I don't think that's a bad thing
1:07:07
Speaker 1: for sports. I think I think it's kind of a
1:07:09
Speaker 1: good thing.
1:07:10
Speaker 10: There's actually some research that suggest that's good for attendants. Yeah,
1:07:13
Speaker 10: it's good for ratings. And I and I think back
1:07:16
Speaker 10: to you know Larry uh, you know, Larry Bird against
1:07:20
Speaker 10: Magic Johbs, you know, some of the some of the
1:07:22
Speaker 10: big rivalries we've had, you know, for the casuals that
1:07:27
Speaker 10: are that are that are turning on during the postseason.
1:07:31
Speaker 10: If they've seen these guys before, it's better, right They're like, oh, yeah,
1:07:35
Speaker 10: I hate these guys.
1:07:36
Speaker 1: Yeah right right, or I.
1:07:38
Speaker 10: Love these guys. But like you have an opinion on
1:07:41
Speaker 10: Shoho Tani, you know, and like you know, he himself
1:07:44
Speaker 10: is a big driver of yous they would you know
1:07:47
Speaker 10: baseball itself, would you know, oh, we need a salary
1:07:51
Speaker 10: cap to keep the Dodgers from being in the World Series.
1:07:53
Speaker 10: Do you think Manfred is not happy when the Dodgers
1:07:56
Speaker 10: are in the World Series. I mean, all of Japan
1:07:58
Speaker 10: is tuning it.
1:08:01
Speaker 1: Well, and it's a big market, which is good. I
1:08:05
Speaker 1: think what you need, what we just need in all
1:08:07
Speaker 1: of sports, to be honest with you, doesn't matter if
1:08:09
Speaker 1: it's the NBA, NFL, NHL, Major League. You just need
1:08:12
Speaker 1: good owners like we because Andrews went to with me
1:08:15
Speaker 1: a moment ago. Like what san Diego's payroll, Andrews san
1:08:19
Speaker 1: Diego is a small that's that's the definition of a
1:08:21
Speaker 1: small market team.
1:08:22
Speaker 2: Their tax payroll right now is two hundred and fifty
1:08:25
Speaker 2: eight million dollars.
1:08:25
Speaker 1: They spend money, like if they can spend money, why
1:08:28
Speaker 1: can't Why can't anybody else spend money?
1:08:31
Speaker 10: And they're such a great story because they saw an opportunity.
1:08:35
Speaker 10: I think when the when the Chargers left town to
1:08:39
Speaker 10: be the sport in town, and they seize that opportunity
1:08:44
Speaker 10: pushed the spending a little bit. Maybe that had to
1:08:47
Speaker 10: do with the owner and the GM's relationship, but you know,
1:08:50
Speaker 10: in any case, they pushed the spending forward. And that's
1:08:53
Speaker 10: a sellout. That is a sell out, that is just
1:08:56
Speaker 10: you go to Petco. There are always people there. You know,
1:08:59
Speaker 10: even on a Tuesday, it's like thirty thirty five thousand.
1:09:02
Speaker 10: So you know, it's a success story. And you know,
1:09:06
Speaker 10: we've been wringing our hands about all. You know, Pittsburgh
1:09:11
Speaker 10: Pirates fans they wake up every day and you know
1:09:14
Speaker 10: they know they can't they can't make the postseason. I mean,
1:09:17
Speaker 10: the Pirates are two games about five hundred five games
1:09:20
Speaker 10: out of first you know, like two or three games
1:09:22
Speaker 10: out of the wild card. They're in it. And the
1:09:25
Speaker 10: current playoff system, the current three wildcard system, really allows
1:09:30
Speaker 10: four teams to get in and go on runs. You know,
1:09:33
Speaker 10: That's how the DBACS made it. Literally, that's how the
1:09:37
Speaker 10: Giants won three, three and five years. They were wild
1:09:40
Speaker 10: cards two of those years. Like, you know, it's just
1:09:44
Speaker 10: you know, it's a sport full of chaos and you
1:09:47
Speaker 10: cannot buy your we just look at the Mets, man,
1:09:50
Speaker 10: you cannot buy your way into the tension.
1:09:54
Speaker 1: The three wildcards. As you said that, I glanced down
1:09:58
Speaker 1: andrews off the top of your head. Any the worst
1:10:00
Speaker 1: team in the American League the Los Angeles Angels, right,
1:10:03
Speaker 1: twenty one and thirty five. How many games Anders do
1:10:06
Speaker 1: you think they're out of a wildcard spot? Eight six? Yeah, right,
1:10:13
Speaker 1: you know, like everyone's in it, at least to the
1:10:14
Speaker 1: American League. Everyone's still in the National League's a little different.
1:10:17
Speaker 1: Rockies around, Rockies and Giants and Mets are pretty much out.
1:10:21
Speaker 1: But yeah, American League, hell, all fifteen teams the American
1:10:25
Speaker 1: League are still in it no matter what you spend. Yeah.
1:10:28
Speaker 10: Yeah, So I mean the Twins, the Twins cut and
1:10:31
Speaker 10: they're not even you know, I think the Twins are
1:10:35
Speaker 10: tied for the third wildcard right now. Yeah, they cut
1:10:39
Speaker 10: salary and they're still even in it for their division
1:10:43
Speaker 10: at five. So yeah, and you know, it is a
1:10:46
Speaker 10: little bit different year to year. And so that's what
1:10:49
Speaker 10: I would just caution people is to not just look
1:10:53
Speaker 10: at the Dodgers last two years and be like, Wow,
1:10:55
Speaker 10: the Dodgers are going to win it again. I mean
1:10:57
Speaker 10: this this team is getting older every year or Breddie
1:11:00
Speaker 10: Freeman is older, Mookie Betts is older. They'll hit up,
1:11:04
Speaker 10: they'll hit a period that every big, you know, expensive
1:11:07
Speaker 10: team hits where you know they have to reload or
1:11:11
Speaker 10: figure out what to do for a couple of years
1:11:13
Speaker 10: and they won't be in it. You know, That's just
1:11:16
Speaker 10: that's what you that's what you do when you build
1:11:18
Speaker 10: your team in pre agency. Now there will run all
1:11:21
Speaker 10: over the place, and that's part of why they're doing well.
1:11:24
Speaker 10: They have you know, stix top thirty prospects and you
1:11:28
Speaker 10: know they know what they're doing.
1:11:29
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1:11:39
Speaker 1: You know, week two, I got to ask you about piggybacking.
1:11:42
Speaker 1: I think you guys talked about on the podcast this week.
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Speaker 1: The piggyback, at least in terms of the number, seems
1:11:47
Speaker 1: to work. Maybe the communication was a little bit of
1:11:49
Speaker 1: a breakdown, But what are you guys saying from AFAR
1:11:52
Speaker 1: about our piggyback situation up here?
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Speaker 10: Well, one thing occurred to me was that if you
1:11:59
Speaker 10: go the six man rotation instead of the piggyback, what
1:12:03
Speaker 10: you're doing is that on the fifth and six days
1:12:05
Speaker 10: of your rotation, you're putting guys out there that you're
1:12:09
Speaker 10: you've got to be a little nervous about. Everybody's a
1:12:10
Speaker 10: little bit more nervous about their fifth and sixth start
1:12:12
Speaker 10: of them, you know, than usual, you know, And so
1:12:15
Speaker 10: you might take those guys out in the fork. Now
1:12:18
Speaker 10: you've just taxed your bullpen two straight days, you know,
1:12:22
Speaker 10: and you've you've pitched, you know, maybe ten innings in
1:12:24
Speaker 10: two games with your bullpen. Now you're really hurting in
1:12:28
Speaker 10: the next game. You really need your ace to go
1:12:30
Speaker 10: real deep in the next game. What you do with
1:12:33
Speaker 10: the piggyback is you say, no, we're we can maybe
1:12:36
Speaker 10: get through this game without using a bullpen.
1:12:38
Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 10: That's how it worked out the second time, and even
1:12:42
Speaker 10: the time that it didn't work out as well the
1:12:44
Speaker 10: time before they only use two relievers, So I think
1:12:49
Speaker 10: the piggybacking actually it makes a lot of sense now.
1:12:53
Speaker 10: I think I would just start with Luis in the
1:12:55
Speaker 10: in the future. I mean, that's what they did in
1:12:58
Speaker 10: the second start. It's like the first one. Louis came
1:13:00
Speaker 10: in second one, he started, but I think it was
1:13:02
Speaker 10: frustrating for him, and I just want to give him
1:13:04
Speaker 10: some grace. It's just that, like he has a big
1:13:07
Speaker 10: old er to shave away, ye And you know when
1:13:11
Speaker 10: you're when you're doing that and you're and you're in
1:13:13
Speaker 10: a game and you're killing it, and you're like, oh,
1:13:15
Speaker 10: just give me, I need a couple more clean innings
1:13:17
Speaker 10: to get that era under five or whatever it is,
1:13:19
Speaker 10: you know, and then they take you out. You just
1:13:22
Speaker 10: feel like, oh, I was I was dealing. But the
1:13:26
Speaker 10: one thing that I found from from research that does
1:13:30
Speaker 10: not sit well with fans and does not feel intuitively
1:13:34
Speaker 10: true is that there is no such thing as dealing.
1:13:40
Speaker 10: You can take all the starters that went through four
1:13:43
Speaker 10: or five innings and looked great and did that, and
1:13:45
Speaker 10: you can put up against the other starters that that
1:13:48
Speaker 10: linked their way through five five innings, and you can
1:13:50
Speaker 10: say what did they do in their sixth and seventh innings?
1:13:53
Speaker 10: And there's no difference. Wow, And you know it's it
1:13:57
Speaker 10: doesn't make sense intuitively, it may not be fully true.
1:14:01
Speaker 10: Like if a guy's vlo is up or down, Like
1:14:04
Speaker 10: if a guy's bilo is down, you know you should
1:14:07
Speaker 10: probably take him out, you know what I mean? Yeah, right,
1:14:09
Speaker 10: there are things like that, but like there's no such
1:14:14
Speaker 10: thing like you're dealing until the next pitch and you know, boom,
1:14:19
Speaker 10: you're to run Homer. You're not doing But like remember JT.
1:14:22
Speaker 10: Gin had a no hitter through eight innings and he
1:14:25
Speaker 10: gets up there and he gives up a walk off home.
1:14:28
Speaker 1: Right, and and and part of that is, as they say,
1:14:30
Speaker 1: just baseball, right. But the other thing I think it's
1:14:32
Speaker 1: interesting we said about castile with a Zra. I mean,
1:14:35
Speaker 1: the other part of it is and we know this
1:14:37
Speaker 1: better than anybody in Seattle because of Felix Hernandez and
1:14:40
Speaker 1: his his Cy Young with whatever it was a thirteen
1:14:43
Speaker 1: or twelve win season and all that wins don't matter,
1:14:47
Speaker 1: blah blah, but they kind of do right, Like if
1:14:49
Speaker 1: you're a pitcher and your Castillo and it's like, give
1:14:52
Speaker 1: me one more inning, get me the win, like you
1:14:53
Speaker 1: know you're gonna win the game. Yeah, Like, I like
1:14:56
Speaker 1: that's a guy, a guy that's win loss records looks
1:14:59
Speaker 1: as bad as his R this year, and I mean
1:15:02
Speaker 1: that that has to be frustrating. They talked about it.
1:15:04
Speaker 1: They had a little lack of communication. That was a
1:15:06
Speaker 1: big part of it, and they hopefully they have done that.
1:15:09
Speaker 1: But I would just say with with Castile, if nothing else,
1:15:12
Speaker 1: you know, we've talked to you, and I've talked about
1:15:14
Speaker 1: him all year. He's looked great in these last two outings,
1:15:17
Speaker 1: like whether he came in in relief or whether he
1:15:19
Speaker 1: started the game, Castiles looked like the old rock that
1:15:22
Speaker 1: they need probably as a year goes on.
1:15:26
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, he has looked pretty Chris. And he's angry, right.
1:15:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I like angry. I like angry Castile. Angry
1:15:36
Speaker 1: Castile's fun. He's been good.
1:15:39
Speaker 10: He just I mean, there's just there's nothing to be said.
1:15:42
Speaker 10: I mean, the one thing that's a little bit weird
1:15:44
Speaker 10: that I've noticed with Hancock is that his arm angle
1:15:46
Speaker 10: has dropped even from where it was early in the season,
1:15:51
Speaker 10: like three four five degrees, it's it's lower even, and
1:15:54
Speaker 10: he's lost some of the ride on the fastball. So
1:15:58
Speaker 10: I'm not saying that, you know, doing and gloom and
1:16:00
Speaker 10: watch out. I'm just saying, like, you know, if those
1:16:04
Speaker 10: mean anything, if he needs a blow or something, this
1:16:06
Speaker 10: may not. This may all be short term. And in
1:16:09
Speaker 10: terms also of like oh well, let's just move one
1:16:12
Speaker 10: guy to the bullpen. The problem is if you move
1:16:15
Speaker 10: a guy to the bullpen, even if he's the long man,
1:16:17
Speaker 10: he gets one or two innings right right, and then
1:16:18
Speaker 10: all of a sudden you say, oh, we need you
1:16:20
Speaker 10: back in the rotation. What can a two inning guy
1:16:23
Speaker 10: do the first time you put him back in the
1:16:24
Speaker 10: rotation two or three? He can't just go jump to five.
1:16:28
Speaker 10: But if you've got the piggyback guys, un if they're
1:16:30
Speaker 10: only doing four innings each, if they if you had
1:16:33
Speaker 10: to tomorrow, they could do five, right, you know, like
1:16:37
Speaker 10: the next in the next game, So you know you're
1:16:40
Speaker 10: you're keeping them stretched out in a way that if
1:16:43
Speaker 10: you go, if you just push one to the bullpen,
1:16:45
Speaker 10: you lose that stretched out guys. So I mean, it's
1:16:48
Speaker 10: it's it's all really difficult to manage. And I and
1:16:51
Speaker 10: I don't I feel bad for Damn because he's got
1:16:54
Speaker 10: to you know, he's got to deal with, you know,
1:16:57
Speaker 10: like these personalities.
1:16:59
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the thing I mentioned this, We
1:17:00
Speaker 1: talked about this on our show the other day, you know,
1:17:02
Speaker 1: is that with Wilson, it's like he's executing something that's
1:17:06
Speaker 1: coming from higher and then in a game he's got
1:17:09
Speaker 1: to go tell Castile in Sacramento, hey, you're coming out,
1:17:12
Speaker 1: that's the plan. Castile's like visibly pissed off, and and
1:17:17
Speaker 1: probably because like Miller got the extra inning in Seattle
1:17:20
Speaker 1: when he had the no hitter going, and Castile's like, well,
1:17:22
Speaker 1: why am I getting yanked out? And then he's got
1:17:24
Speaker 1: to sit there because it's Sacramento and everyone is able
1:17:27
Speaker 1: to see his reaction because he can't go to the
1:17:30
Speaker 1: the the clubhouse because it's out behind right field because
1:17:33
Speaker 1: it's a minor ballpark. Right, It's like, you're not gonna
1:17:39
Speaker 1: pissed off.
1:17:39
Speaker 4: Rock is leaving the building right now, walking out there
1:17:42
Speaker 4: like he's just like it was just a perfect storm.
1:17:48
Speaker 1: Yelling and screaming.
1:17:51
Speaker 10: We have seen that a little bit. Luisav Reno hates
1:17:53
Speaker 10: pitching in Sacramento and a couple of times he's walked out,
1:17:58
Speaker 10: He's walked out to the clubhouse off in the middle
1:18:00
Speaker 10: of the game and the like up there.
1:18:04
Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't like pitching there, and he didn't like
1:18:06
Speaker 1: pitching against Seattle. Apparently they brought a kid up for
1:18:09
Speaker 1: they they've skipped Ceravino in the start the other day,
1:18:12
Speaker 1: brought the left hander up thinking that would be a
1:18:13
Speaker 1: smart move against Seattle, which actually normally it can be,
1:18:16
Speaker 1: but it wasn't that day. He got lit up a
1:18:19
Speaker 1: little bit along the way. You know, Sarah's joining us
1:18:21
Speaker 1: here on the beacon plumbing hot. I wanted to ask
1:18:23
Speaker 1: you just a very generic questions. Well, because we're talking
1:18:25
Speaker 1: about the playoffs earlier, and you know, the Marors have
1:18:28
Speaker 1: sleep walked their way back into first place at a
1:18:31
Speaker 1: game under five hundred, the run differentials outstanding. They basically
1:18:34
Speaker 1: blow teams out or they lose a run run game
1:18:36
Speaker 1: is how they've operated. But as you know, we just
1:18:38
Speaker 1: talked about La the Angel six games out of a
1:18:40
Speaker 1: wildcard spot. Have you ever seen a league like we
1:18:43
Speaker 1: have seen the American League this year where there is
1:18:45
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to call it parody,
1:18:47
Speaker 1: everyone's five hundred or worse outside of Tampa Bay and
1:18:49
Speaker 1: the Yankees, Like, this is just an odd year. Have
1:18:51
Speaker 1: you ever seen this before? And will will it right
1:18:54
Speaker 1: itself as the year goes on?
1:18:58
Speaker 10: It was a thing that Billy Being always said was
1:19:01
Speaker 10: that there are wins on the table if you just
1:19:03
Speaker 10: don't sell, you know, And so I think we will
1:19:08
Speaker 10: see as good of a story as the Twins are
1:19:12
Speaker 10: right now, they've just head been a direction where they
1:19:15
Speaker 10: seem more likely to sell than to buy, you know.
1:19:19
Speaker 10: And the Tigers, if they continue to fall out of
1:19:22
Speaker 10: this if you know, school and not coming back, he
1:19:25
Speaker 10: could become they could become sellers. The Red Sox are
1:19:29
Speaker 10: in a really tough division, and if they if they
1:19:32
Speaker 10: don't make a real run at five hundred real soon
1:19:35
Speaker 10: like the Orioles are in the middle of making, then
1:19:38
Speaker 10: the Red Sox may you know, trade any veteran that's
1:19:40
Speaker 10: not really signed for next year. So as those teams
1:19:44
Speaker 10: trade away, that's one thing that another thing that like
1:19:46
Speaker 10: when you look at projections at the beginning here, there's
1:19:48
Speaker 10: very few teams projected for one hundred wins and one
1:19:50
Speaker 10: hundred losses because the projections push everything to the middle.
1:19:54
Speaker 10: But what they with the projections can't know is what's
1:19:57
Speaker 10: going to happen at the deadline, what's going to happen
1:19:58
Speaker 10: over the course of the year. How many you know,
1:20:01
Speaker 10: injuries and stuff like that. But so you know what
1:20:04
Speaker 10: you what you end up doing is those teams that
1:20:07
Speaker 10: sell will get worse, and there will be it'll stratify
1:20:09
Speaker 10: a little bit over the course of the season.
1:20:11
Speaker 1: Final thing for Ineno Serius. Here we see the Arizona
1:20:14
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks coming into town starting tomorrow for three. The schedule
1:20:17
Speaker 1: lightings up for Seattle after that with some some lesser teams.
1:20:20
Speaker 1: On the surface, Arizona looks like they're pretty good right now.
1:20:23
Speaker 1: They've won eleven of thirteen, and then you look at
1:20:25
Speaker 1: the actual game by game and say, wait a second.
1:20:27
Speaker 1: All thirteen of those games were against the Rockies and
1:20:29
Speaker 1: the Giants. So are they good? Are they surging? Are
1:20:32
Speaker 1: they What do we expect to see with this Arizona team?
1:20:35
Speaker 10: You got you gotta hit them, You gotta hit them
1:20:37
Speaker 10: because the pitching is not good. They have not really
1:20:41
Speaker 10: figured out pitching development. They have not really developed I mean,
1:20:45
Speaker 10: they're their best pitcher that they've developed is maybe Ryan Nelson.
1:20:47
Speaker 10: He's kind of a one and a half pitch pitcher,
1:20:51
Speaker 10: So like, you gotta hit him. They're they're bullpen's not
1:20:53
Speaker 10: that good. I love Paul sewand y'all love Paul Sewall Mike,
1:20:57
Speaker 10: you know, he's this one man back there, really and
1:21:01
Speaker 10: and so you got to hit him. Because the one
1:21:03
Speaker 10: weird thing about the d vax is they always hit
1:21:07
Speaker 10: better than the names on the back of the jerseys.
1:21:09
Speaker 10: They always you always think, eh, yeah, Colevin, Carrol's great,
1:21:13
Speaker 10: you know, but then you know, you sit down, you're like, oh,
1:21:16
Speaker 10: Caatel Marte and Arnado's had a resurgence, and they Ryan
1:21:20
Speaker 10: Walschmiz's young new rookie Predomo is just a professional at bat.
1:21:24
Speaker 10: That guy just does not swing at balls and only
1:21:26
Speaker 10: swings at strike. So when you start to look at it,
1:21:29
Speaker 10: you're like, Okay, they can hit, but they can't pitch.
1:21:32
Speaker 10: So the Mariners just have to hit him. That's the
1:21:34
Speaker 10: that's the big deal. And you know you mentioned the Giants.
1:21:37
Speaker 10: A couple of times now, and it's just this is
1:21:41
Speaker 10: one of those seasons where I don't I don't think
1:21:43
Speaker 10: it's just anywhere close to rock bottom like this, they're
1:21:46
Speaker 10: not they're not playing, they're not playing well like their
1:21:49
Speaker 10: coach well like they're they're forgetting the outs and like
1:21:52
Speaker 10: you know, base running blunders and like throwing to the
1:21:55
Speaker 10: wrong base and just doing stuff where you're like, oh, boy,
1:21:59
Speaker 10: like this is this is gonna get worse before it
1:22:01
Speaker 10: gets any better. So I agree with you that the
1:22:05
Speaker 10: DBACS did do some beating up on the on the
1:22:07
Speaker 10: lesser teams, but you got to be careful if you
1:22:09
Speaker 10: don't get to their to their rotation and their bullpen. Uh,
1:22:13
Speaker 10: they're gonna put some runs up.
1:22:14
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1:22:22
Speaker 10: Yeah, we were on Daily today. We had Trevor May.
1:22:24
Speaker 10: We talked about, uh, why some of Paul Scheme's numbers
1:22:28
Speaker 10: are down and what Nolan McClain's recent struggles are happening
1:22:32
Speaker 10: in New York. And yesterday we actually did a little
1:22:37
Speaker 10: a thing with with Jed Lowry where we were talking
1:22:40
Speaker 10: about funny things that have happened over the course of
1:22:42
Speaker 10: the year. I don't actually think I got my Mariners
1:22:45
Speaker 10: one in I meant to bring up, is there a
1:22:47
Speaker 10: patch of grass in the outfield that gets replaced all
1:22:51
Speaker 10: the time because each ero wears it out?
1:22:53
Speaker 2: Yes, that is exactly the case.
1:22:55
Speaker 1: Yes, yes there is.
1:22:56
Speaker 10: Oh my god, I love that.
1:23:00
Speaker 1: He's got to get he's got to get his work in.
1:23:01
Speaker 1: You know, you never know, you never know when the
1:23:03
Speaker 1: call is going to come. Still thinks he's a part
1:23:05
Speaker 1: of the team. He has aye, he has a locker
1:23:08
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse. He's out there warming up, doing his thing. Yeah,
1:23:12
Speaker 1: just you never know when they're going to have to
1:23:13
Speaker 1: activate in one of these days.
1:23:17
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, we just went through things we loved
1:23:19
Speaker 10: about the season. One was there's a one of the
1:23:21
Speaker 10: pitching coaches. The pitching goes to the Pirates, so just
1:23:23
Speaker 10: a quick he walks out to the mount. It takes them.
1:23:26
Speaker 10: They counted in the in the same Luis game, they
1:23:28
Speaker 10: they time time to twenty six seconds to walk out
1:23:31
Speaker 10: to the mount and uh, he did it in San Francisco,
1:23:34
Speaker 10: and the San Francisco broadcast is without me missing beat
1:23:37
Speaker 10: super dryly said, I hate this guy.
1:23:40
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh I love dude.
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Speaker 1: Montreal and Carolina played last night. They have probably one
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Speaker 1: in Game five on Friday on Friday and move on
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Speaker 1: Montreal and four by the way, and then will last
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Speaker 1: four home playoff game. It's crazy. You know we always
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Speaker 1: talk about home mis advantage. Yeah, making a big deal.
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Speaker 1: In the conference finals Montreal oh and two, Colorado oh
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Speaker 1: and two, both teams are gonna get eliminated.
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Speaker 2: So that's crazy.
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Speaker 1: Shout out to the Colonna to the Everage Silver Tips.
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Speaker 1: They got to win last night the Memorial Cup, turning
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Speaker 1: it up in Coloonna, knocking off the host team. So
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Speaker 1: they will play in the semi finals tomorrow against Chikudibi
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Speaker 1: battle by the way of two cracking prospects. Alexis Bernier,
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Speaker 1: who just got signed by Seattle plays for the Quebec
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Speaker 1: team and then Julius Mietman Winter. That team game goes
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Speaker 1: on to the Momorio Cup final on Sunday in Coloonna.
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Speaker 1: Kind of the Canada's version of the Final Four, so
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Speaker 1: team won it Spokane years ago. So a good job
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Speaker 1: we have the Soccer Celebration, which is the ultimate Seattle
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Speaker 1: World Cup watch party starts here. The this is the
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Speaker 1: So I want to say, Okay, how much the tickets? Right? Yep?
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Speaker 1: So now I'd probably need to look at more than this,
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Speaker 1: because I don't think this game is here, right. Brazil
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Speaker 1: and Morocco are not playing here, correct. I think that's
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Speaker 1: one of the first games however, that they have. Yes,
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Speaker 1: So what would you guess that the prices to get
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Speaker 1: in there onto the barge would be?
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Speaker 2: Is this just to get on the barge or is
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Speaker 2: this to reserve? Like there's two different levels. Okay, there's
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Speaker 2: a vip terrace and there's general mission, general missions. What
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Speaker 2: you're asking?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, ten bucks fifty two American dollars. WHOA, you can
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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, is that included five free drinks?
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Speaker 1: Fifty two dollars? You get a stand on the barge.
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Speaker 1: You can buy the three hundred and fifty two dollars
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Speaker 1: tickets Jesus for the most premium spot of the barge,
1:27:48
Speaker 1: Andrews unobstructed screen views, pugea sound backdrop, and bird's eye
1:27:54
Speaker 1: crowd views. Includes food, drinks, private bar, vip restrooms, and
1:27:57
Speaker 1: terrace seating. I don't know if the private bar, if
1:28:00
Speaker 1: that includes the drinks paid for food and drinks doesn't
1:28:04
Speaker 1: say if like like if it's a Mowet suite or
1:28:07
Speaker 1: Diamond club experience and every it's all inclusive. That you
1:28:12
Speaker 1: can probably get your way. You can get your way
1:28:14
Speaker 1: through three hundred and fifty bucks. Absolutely, I would think
1:28:16
Speaker 1: that'd be me. But that's I'm not sure about that.
1:28:19
Speaker 1: It's still the fifty two dollars just to stand on
1:28:22
Speaker 1: the barge. That's crazy, and you may or may not
1:28:24
Speaker 1: be able to see the events very well. So I
1:28:27
Speaker 1: don't that. But that game's not here, right Morocco and so, but.
1:28:31
Speaker 2: Those are the games you're gonna want to watch because
1:28:33
Speaker 2: they're not here, right, you need to need some of
1:28:36
Speaker 2: the place to watch the non Seattle is Belgium.
1:28:39
Speaker 1: I uh iran here?
1:28:41
Speaker 2: I believe it is actually right.
1:28:42
Speaker 1: They are here. They're both those both those teams are here, right, yes, okay,
1:28:45
Speaker 1: so let's see what that one costs. Let's let's go
1:28:47
Speaker 1: down here. By the way, they do not make this easy,
1:28:50
Speaker 1: by the way, like you got to go through like
1:28:52
Speaker 1: eighteen different.
1:28:53
Speaker 2: So what if there's multiple games in a day?
1:28:56
Speaker 1: Ah?
1:28:56
Speaker 2: Whoa if you buy for one, does that mean you
1:28:59
Speaker 2: get to stay?
1:29:00
Speaker 1: I don't know. So it's the same price for the games,
1:29:04
Speaker 1: that is same price, but it just it from two
1:29:07
Speaker 1: to six pm, So I don't. Yeah, that's I think
1:29:10
Speaker 1: that's an interesting dynamic because I'm just looking through here.
1:29:13
Speaker 1: It looks like they may just have one a day,
1:29:16
Speaker 1: is how I'm reading it.
1:29:17
Speaker 2: What if there's all right, okay.
1:29:19
Speaker 1: No, seriously, like here's what okay, these are what for purchase.
1:29:22
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of one per day. Yeah, So Brazil
1:29:26
Speaker 1: Morocco is Saturday, June.
1:29:28
Speaker 2: Thirteenth, they're just not going to play the other games.
1:29:31
Speaker 1: France Senegal is Tuesday, June sixteenth. These are the tickets
1:29:34
Speaker 1: available June twenty first, June twenty second. Yeah, they're I
1:29:40
Speaker 1: don't see any double headers.
1:29:41
Speaker 2: In here, because on June thirteenth where Brazil Morocco, there's
1:29:45
Speaker 2: four games that day. There's a noon game, three game,
1:29:47
Speaker 2: six game, and a nine o'clock These just say round
1:29:50
Speaker 2: of thirty two viewing. Now we get to round of
1:29:52
Speaker 2: thirty two, then it's different. But yeah, the early round
1:29:56
Speaker 2: it's it appears to me it'll be just be one game.
1:30:00
Speaker 2: It ruins the whole experience because like when you want
1:30:02
Speaker 2: multiple games up, yeah, part of the world couple, they're
1:30:05
Speaker 2: not going to be on at the same time. It's
1:30:07
Speaker 2: like I said, a noon game at three o'clock game
1:30:09
Speaker 2: is like instead of white tournament viewing, you're gonna be
1:30:11
Speaker 2: correct all day.
1:30:14
Speaker 1: So yeah, it does appear that that that's the case.
1:30:17
Speaker 2: That's weird.
1:30:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, that it's one game, not multiple games.
1:30:21
Speaker 2: And that's a lot of money for to walk to stick.
1:30:23
Speaker 1: Just to stay on the bar. I mean, I'm sure
1:30:24
Speaker 1: the experience is cool.
1:30:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. And from what I have kind of
1:30:29
Speaker 2: read through the weeds here, I think you're supporting the
1:30:32
Speaker 2: Ray Foundation there, which does a lot of really good
1:30:34
Speaker 2: work and it's a charity. So yeah, if that's if
1:30:39
Speaker 2: that's your thing, that's your cup of tea. Great, But
1:30:43
Speaker 2: I think it goes support local businesses.
1:30:45
Speaker 1: Go watch it. I'm with you, yea honestly. Yeah. By
1:30:49
Speaker 1: the way, can we give them a shout out? What's
1:30:51
Speaker 1: going on Saturday?
1:30:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, Saturday Champions League Final. If you are looking for
1:30:54
Speaker 2: a little pre nup or not prenup.
1:30:56
Speaker 1: That would be did you do one of those?
1:31:00
Speaker 2: No, I did not preview to you know, the world
1:31:04
Speaker 2: stage of soccer, the Champions League Finals on Saturday, Arsenal
1:31:07
Speaker 2: versus PSG. It's the biggest club game of the season.
1:31:12
Speaker 2: Nine o'clock and we do have confirmation that queen En
1:31:15
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1:31:16
Speaker 1: And the Moss Bay and Kirklin absolutely.
1:31:18
Speaker 2: Yes, that's where I watched the World Cup final in
1:31:20
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two and it was a fantastic Queen Ann
1:31:22
Speaker 2: Beer Hall. Yes, yeah, so seven am.
1:31:24
Speaker 1: Breakfast at the beer Hall, whether Queen Anne or Moss
1:31:27
Speaker 1: Bay on Saturday nine am for.
1:31:30
Speaker 4: The big soft match. They do it right, all right,
1:31:32
Speaker 4: So go check those guys out absolutely. Okay, we'll take
1:31:35
Speaker 4: a break.
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Speaker 1: Well, when we get back out to the Virginia Mason
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Speaker 1: Athletics Center next week for the next couple of open
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Speaker 1: OTAs for us in the media, there's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: lot to look at. One of the things I wanted
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Speaker 1: to talk to you about today, great story at Animal
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Speaker 1: City Spectrum. Right now what to watch for is CX
1:34:17
Speaker 1: kickoff OTAs going through some of those things. One of
1:34:20
Speaker 1: the things that I just find amazing is and you've
1:34:25
Speaker 1: talked about it before it. I think the sign Corbyn
1:34:28
Speaker 1: of a good team, a really good team, is that
1:34:32
Speaker 1: one of your priorities in this offseason is now finding
1:34:37
Speaker 1: a replacement for Drek Young, who did little in the
1:34:41
Speaker 1: passing game, but was a massive special teams contributor to
1:34:44
Speaker 1: the gunner and all those things. That tells me this
1:34:47
Speaker 1: team's in pretty good shape. But they are putting a
1:34:49
Speaker 1: lot of effort into that.
1:34:52
Speaker 3: They really are. And you look at the rookies that
1:34:55
Speaker 3: they're bringing in, sixth rounder Emmanuel Henderson Junior being the
1:35:00
Speaker 3: most notable of the newcomers. You've got Ricky White, the
1:35:04
Speaker 3: third who pretty much red shirt his rookie season on
1:35:07
Speaker 3: the practice squad. I believe he suited up for three
1:35:09
Speaker 3: games as a call up, so he got a little
1:35:11
Speaker 3: bit of NFL action, just a taste, but a really
1:35:14
Speaker 3: good special teams player that is looking to take a
1:35:16
Speaker 3: step forward in his second season. And now you bring
1:35:20
Speaker 3: in IRV Charles from New York. Now there's injury question
1:35:23
Speaker 3: marks there, though I would think if they had any
1:35:26
Speaker 3: questions about that still, they wouldn't have passed as physical
1:35:29
Speaker 3: to make a trade to acquire him from the Jets.
1:35:31
Speaker 3: He did not played all last year. But you go
1:35:33
Speaker 3: back to the game the Seahawks played against the Jets
1:35:35
Speaker 3: in twenty four and they were putting two or three
1:35:40
Speaker 3: guys consistently on IRV Charles when the Jets were punting,
1:35:44
Speaker 3: which happened to fair him out because the Jets don't
1:35:46
Speaker 3: move the football very well. But IRV Charles, that's how
1:35:50
Speaker 3: good he is a gunner. They were putting two or
1:35:52
Speaker 3: three players across from him to try to stop him
1:35:55
Speaker 3: from getting downfield and making tackles because he's a very
1:35:59
Speaker 3: good gunner in terms of flying down the field six
1:36:03
Speaker 3: and twenty pounds. If he's back healthy. This is not
1:36:07
Speaker 3: a trade where you're looking at, well, we just flow
1:36:10
Speaker 3: to this conditional pick. It's you know, probably not gonna
1:36:13
Speaker 3: work out. If he is the way he was before
1:36:15
Speaker 3: the injury, he's got a real chance to push Emmanuel
1:36:18
Speaker 3: Henderson and Ricky White off the roster because he's that
1:36:22
Speaker 3: good on special teams, and we know the Seahawks value
1:36:25
Speaker 3: players like that as much as any team in the NFL.
1:36:28
Speaker 1: It is Corman Smith joining us here on the Beacon
1:36:30
Speaker 1: Plumbing hotline. I'm gonna get back to on field in
1:36:32
Speaker 1: a second. Let me go off the field for a moment.
1:36:35
Speaker 9: Uh.
1:36:35
Speaker 1: And we asked the question today to Seahawks fans four nine,
1:36:39
Speaker 1: four to five one on the Tacoma Dodge text line,
1:36:43
Speaker 1: what is it about new ownership that has you worried?
1:36:47
Speaker 1: The obvious answer for someone I guess be, hey, maybe
1:36:50
Speaker 1: they'd move. But I think that's just so far off
1:36:52
Speaker 1: the table. If you're not the Grand Pooba of Animal
1:36:55
Speaker 1: City spectrum and you're just sitting here in Seattle in
1:36:58
Speaker 1: your new house and you're a Seahawks fan, and Corbyn
1:37:01
Speaker 1: Smith's like, man, this thing's keeping me up at night?
1:37:05
Speaker 1: Or is it? What about the potential sale would would
1:37:08
Speaker 1: cause you concern?
1:37:11
Speaker 3: What would scare me as a Seahawk fan is not relocation.
1:37:15
Speaker 3: They're not going anywhere, folks, That's not gonna happen. But
1:37:20
Speaker 3: having an owner that wants to meddle with things and
1:37:24
Speaker 3: be the exact opposite of what the Allen family has
1:37:27
Speaker 3: been all about, where we're gonna hire quality people and
1:37:30
Speaker 3: we're gonna hold them accountable, but we're gonna let them
1:37:32
Speaker 3: do their jobs. If you get an owner like a
1:37:35
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones that wants to be hands on and dictate everything,
1:37:41
Speaker 3: I think that's been the best part of the Allen
1:37:43
Speaker 3: ownership is that they haven't done that, and there's so
1:37:45
Speaker 3: many bad organizations in pro sports where that is a
1:37:48
Speaker 3: common theme, where the owners just don't know how to
1:37:51
Speaker 3: stay in their lane. That would be the biggest concern
1:37:54
Speaker 3: for me. You have to hope that you're gonna sell
1:37:57
Speaker 3: to somebody who is going to maintain that hands off approach,
1:38:02
Speaker 3: maybe be more involved in the community and you know,
1:38:05
Speaker 3: having press conference or whatever else that the Allen family
1:38:07
Speaker 3: didn't do. But we're gonna let our people that we
1:38:10
Speaker 3: hired do their jobs on the football side of it.
1:38:12
Speaker 1: It's interesting because there's a part of me that would
1:38:15
Speaker 1: like to hear more from the owner of the local
1:38:18
Speaker 1: NFL team, you know, and what they're thinking. But then
1:38:21
Speaker 1: there's an other part of me that says, wait a second, one,
1:38:23
Speaker 1: I don't need to because frankly, this thing's humming along fine,
1:38:27
Speaker 1: both on the field and on the business side as well.
1:38:30
Speaker 1: You know. I mean, we can talk to Chuck Arnold
1:38:31
Speaker 1: if we need to here there, but like you know,
1:38:34
Speaker 1: don't really need to, and he doesn't make the money determinations. Schneider.
1:38:38
Speaker 1: On the other hand, we don't hear from him too much.
1:38:40
Speaker 1: But we never hear from Jody, like never ever, So
1:38:44
Speaker 1: there's part of me that I have be kind of
1:38:46
Speaker 1: get it. But really, the only time I want to
1:38:47
Speaker 1: hear from an owner is if I have a question
1:38:49
Speaker 1: about how things are not going well right, and things
1:38:51
Speaker 1: are going well here, so maybe I don't need to
1:38:53
Speaker 1: hear from that person.
1:38:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think there's also you know, one
1:38:58
Speaker 3: of the name has been floated out there, and this
1:39:00
Speaker 3: is the one that I think Seahawk fans should be
1:39:02
Speaker 3: praying is going to buy this team. Uh Vic Grosbeck
1:39:07
Speaker 3: from the Boston Celtics. That guy is hands off. He
1:39:11
Speaker 3: lets his people do their jobs. But he also he's
1:39:14
Speaker 3: an entertainer. He's in a band, he plays a guitar. Like,
1:39:17
Speaker 3: that's a fun guy to interace. He he likes to
1:39:25
Speaker 3: be out in the spotlight a little bit more and
1:39:27
Speaker 3: he's done press content. But like I know people that
1:39:30
Speaker 3: are connected to Brad Stevens, who is now running the
1:39:33
Speaker 3: basketball operations for the Boston Celtics, and they've told me
1:39:36
Speaker 3: that Brad Stevens like I wouldn't have left my coaching
1:39:39
Speaker 3: gig and went up to be the basketball ambassador. Basically,
1:39:43
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have left if it wasn't for my trust
1:39:46
Speaker 3: in Grossbeck and what he did there in Boston. He
1:39:49
Speaker 3: won with multiple iterations there with the Celtics because he
1:39:53
Speaker 3: let his people do their job and if he didn't win,
1:39:55
Speaker 3: he was going to replace you. He still held you accountable.
1:39:58
Speaker 3: But that is the name that's come out so far
1:40:00
Speaker 3: that I just think would be a perfect fit to
1:40:03
Speaker 3: be that owner.
1:40:04
Speaker 1: Corben Smith joining us Emerald City Spectrum, All Seattle Sports,
1:40:07
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1:40:10
Speaker 1: I'll tell you more at the end of the segment
1:40:12
Speaker 1: on how you can do that. Four nine, four to
1:40:13
Speaker 1: five one. By the way, we can check our text
1:40:15
Speaker 1: at bottom of the hour. So we go back to
1:40:17
Speaker 1: the gunner position, which by and large seems to include
1:40:20
Speaker 1: all wide receivers. And as I'm watching OTA's the other
1:40:24
Speaker 1: day and I'm looking at the roster now with the
1:40:27
Speaker 1: edition yesterday, there are fourteen wide receivers on this roster.
1:40:32
Speaker 1: Although Vellas Jones Junior was playing running back on Tuesday,
1:40:35
Speaker 1: so maybe we move him back to the running back room.
1:40:38
Speaker 1: But when I look through here and I think ahead
1:40:42
Speaker 1: to OTA's mini camp and then training camp, the storylines
1:40:48
Speaker 1: like it's especially got it court. I didn't think about
1:40:50
Speaker 1: this till just now with Hard Knocks coming here this year,
1:40:53
Speaker 1: Like that's always a big storyline. All who are the
1:40:55
Speaker 1: guys on the fringe?
1:40:56
Speaker 8: Right?
1:40:56
Speaker 1: Who are the guys in the bubble? Like this roster
1:40:59
Speaker 1: is so well right now, except for what do you
1:41:02
Speaker 1: do there? Because I dance with me here Cooper cup JSN,
1:41:09
Speaker 1: Tory Horton, Rashid chi Heed, and I think based on
1:41:12
Speaker 1: contract Jake Bobo, those five guys are gonna make this roster.
1:41:17
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, there's five in and there's
1:41:21
Speaker 1: what eight guys left for one spot? Maybe like that's
1:41:25
Speaker 1: massively competitive and it might come down to that gunner position.
1:41:29
Speaker 3: Oh, it's going to come down to the gunner position.
1:41:32
Speaker 3: I'd be shocked if anything else comes into play there.
1:41:34
Speaker 3: And the only thing I can think of is if
1:41:36
Speaker 3: somebody like Emmanuel Henderson or Ricky White and the third
1:41:39
Speaker 3: just absolutely erupts in the preseason as a pass catcher
1:41:43
Speaker 3: and you're feeling like we can't we can't let that
1:41:45
Speaker 3: guy hit Waiver. I We're going to lose him, you know.
1:41:48
Speaker 3: That would be the only way I could see that
1:41:50
Speaker 3: Gunner's not the deciding factor when it comes to choosing that.
1:41:55
Speaker 3: And we've seen Seattle keep seven receivers on the roster
1:41:58
Speaker 3: in the Mike McDonald era because special teams. They keep
1:42:01
Speaker 3: guys at the bottom that are key on Sundays to
1:42:04
Speaker 3: play multiple units on special teams. So it might be
1:42:08
Speaker 3: for two spots, but right now it really feels like
1:42:10
Speaker 3: I thought it was a two horse race between Henderson
1:42:13
Speaker 3: and White, but now I think you can definitely throw
1:42:17
Speaker 3: or Charles in there, assuming he's healthy. Again, I would
1:42:20
Speaker 3: assume that he is if the Seahawks signed off on
1:42:22
Speaker 3: that trade. But those three players, to me, they're the
1:42:26
Speaker 3: ones battling for that Jarek Young spot. Everyone else is
1:42:30
Speaker 3: on the roster. You know, maybe you could throw Cody
1:42:32
Speaker 3: White in there too, because he feels like a guy
1:42:34
Speaker 3: that just surprises you every year and he just delivers
1:42:37
Speaker 3: when he needs to. But I think the rest of
1:42:39
Speaker 3: the receivers there probably just camp bodies at this point.
1:42:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think so too. Corba Smith joining us
1:42:45
Speaker 1: had a chance to catch up to tyle Katta I
1:42:47
Speaker 1: did on Tuesday, and first of all, I'm just fantastic.
1:42:51
Speaker 1: I'm kicking myself. You've told us what a great and
1:42:54
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the hard part about me not being
1:42:56
Speaker 1: there every day anymore, is it? I just don't you know?
1:42:59
Speaker 1: These guys are great inner. He was phenomenal. He by
1:43:01
Speaker 1: the way, we came to the conclusion that he sounds
1:43:04
Speaker 1: like Sean McVay in terms of voice, but he says
1:43:07
Speaker 1: he's parroting Mike McDonald. That's that's kind of what we
1:43:10
Speaker 1: came up with, is a combel and McDonald and mcvay's voice,
1:43:13
Speaker 1: McDonald's words. Would you agree?
1:43:16
Speaker 3: You know, I had not thought about that, but having
1:43:19
Speaker 3: talked to Tye a lot over the past few years, Yeah,
1:43:23
Speaker 3: he's Minny McVeigh. He really is.
1:43:27
Speaker 2: I heard it instantly, Corbyn. It was one of those
1:43:29
Speaker 2: things where we're like, oh my god, is Ian interviewing
1:43:31
Speaker 2: Sean McVay right now?
1:43:33
Speaker 1: We like ty Simpson a lot. He's great.
1:43:38
Speaker 3: You should open the interview. Why did you pick Diy Simpson?
1:43:42
Speaker 1: That would have actually been really good? What do you
1:43:43
Speaker 1: mean what are you talking about it?
1:43:44
Speaker 3: Yeah?
1:43:45
Speaker 1: Guys never met me before. Who's his clown?
1:43:47
Speaker 3: What are you doing to give you an answer too?
1:43:49
Speaker 3: That's the That's the thing about Tye.
1:43:53
Speaker 1: His parent, his parenting of like everything he says is
1:43:55
Speaker 1: out of the Mike McDonald playbook, Like it's it's like
1:43:59
Speaker 1: he's going to be a coach. I bring him up though,
1:44:01
Speaker 1: because you know, and I was like, who do I
1:44:02
Speaker 1: want to talk to you today? And I'm talking to
1:44:04
Speaker 1: the PR guy that's like, do you know what I remember?
1:44:06
Speaker 1: Talked to Tylokotta? And one of the reason I want
1:44:07
Speaker 1: to talk about him, talk to him is that he's
1:44:09
Speaker 1: an interesting situation. Starts eleven games last season. Kobe Bryant's
1:44:13
Speaker 1: obviously gone, but he started. He's an eleven game starter.
1:44:16
Speaker 1: The way they you know, and you can kind of
1:44:18
Speaker 1: explain it better than I. The way they deploy their safeties.
1:44:21
Speaker 1: They've got obviously Julian Love, they've got one of somebody
1:44:25
Speaker 1: else in the back end, whether it be you know,
1:44:28
Speaker 1: Tyo Kotta, Bud Clark, et cetera, AJ Finley, Rodney Thomas.
1:44:31
Speaker 1: But all these guys and then even Warry is not
1:44:34
Speaker 1: really a true safety in the word. He's just like
1:44:36
Speaker 1: big nickel guy.
1:44:37
Speaker 4: So just looking at those guys, he's the terminator.
1:44:40
Speaker 3: Yes, he's a terminator. He plays every position.
1:44:44
Speaker 1: So so in that safety room, what caught my attention
1:44:47
Speaker 1: was watching Tyle Kotta pull Bud Clark aside, walk him
1:44:51
Speaker 1: through stuff after every rep like a guy that's competing
1:44:55
Speaker 1: for his job. How deep and good is that safety room?
1:44:59
Speaker 3: It's fantastic. I think it's a good of a safety
1:45:02
Speaker 3: group as you're in a find in the league. That's
1:45:03
Speaker 3: even after losing Kobe Bryant. And the reason I maintained
1:45:07
Speaker 3: that belief is if because of Tyakatta, Like I think
1:45:11
Speaker 3: a lot of people when they saw Bud Clark the
1:45:13
Speaker 3: selection there, I think there were a lot of fans
1:45:16
Speaker 3: that felt like, oh, no, Tyakatta, this is a situation
1:45:20
Speaker 3: where now he's not gonna be on the field, Like
1:45:22
Speaker 3: that is absolutely not the case at all. Bud Clark
1:45:26
Speaker 3: could play a lot of snaps and Tyakatta is still
1:45:28
Speaker 3: gonna be out there a lot. Like Mike McDonald has
1:45:31
Speaker 3: the utmost trust in him. He, like you mentioned his
1:45:35
Speaker 3: IQ as a football player, and I interviewed him a
1:45:38
Speaker 3: few weeks back myself and just I was blown away
1:45:40
Speaker 3: by some of the ex's and o stuff that he
1:45:43
Speaker 3: was dishing out. Like you said, he's a future coach.
1:45:45
Speaker 3: You can tell it in his way he talks. I
1:45:49
Speaker 3: just think that he is. He's too good of a
1:45:51
Speaker 3: player not to be out there. I don't think last
1:45:53
Speaker 3: year was a fluke. This is a guy that when
1:45:55
Speaker 3: he got a few chances the season before, did some things.
1:45:58
Speaker 3: And he's just another one of those players that he
1:46:01
Speaker 3: gets the most out of his talents. He's actually a
1:46:04
Speaker 3: better athlete than Kobe Bryant, at least when you look
1:46:06
Speaker 3: at his athletic testing, he was a significantly better athlete.
1:46:10
Speaker 3: So I think that they're going to still play a
1:46:12
Speaker 3: lot of four safety looks with Bud Clark and Tayakata
1:46:15
Speaker 3: out there, with Emon Wory being that pseudo linebacker defensive end.
1:46:20
Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if even Worri plays
1:46:22
Speaker 3: one tech this year. The guy just plays everywhere on
1:46:25
Speaker 3: this defense. And then Rodney Thomas was a two year
1:46:29
Speaker 3: starter in Indy and has some really good film, had
1:46:32
Speaker 3: some down times too, But I mean, they've got some
1:46:35
Speaker 3: really good players that aren't going to make this football
1:46:37
Speaker 3: team at that position.
1:46:38
Speaker 1: That's what happens with the Super Bowl champions, right There's
1:46:40
Speaker 1: some guys that get left off the roster, you know,
1:46:43
Speaker 1: on final cutdown day, on that whenever that comes up
1:46:45
Speaker 1: in early September. I you know, I think too what
1:46:50
Speaker 1: I like about Okata or even say, let's just throw
1:46:52
Speaker 1: another guy out there Drake Thomas, Like if you look
1:46:55
Speaker 1: at the measurables, first of all, I maybe Ocata's five
1:46:58
Speaker 1: to eleven, maybe out of I'm sure doesn't feel like it.
1:47:02
Speaker 1: But they listed in five eleven two hundred. Drake Thomas
1:47:05
Speaker 1: five eleven, two twenty eight. I'm gonna argue with the
1:47:07
Speaker 1: five eleven with him as well. I don't those numbers
1:47:10
Speaker 1: look good on a roster now that it doesn't really
1:47:12
Speaker 1: matter because you're not in the combine anymore. I don't
1:47:15
Speaker 1: think either one of those guys were combined guys, so
1:47:17
Speaker 1: it didn't matter right. So, but I look at those
1:47:19
Speaker 1: two guys, they kind of are the epitome of a
1:47:21
Speaker 1: John Schneider Mike McDonald roster. We don't care what you
1:47:24
Speaker 1: look like, we don't care how what me just can
1:47:27
Speaker 1: you play football? And we saw both those guys be
1:47:30
Speaker 1: massive reasons why last season that this team had success.
1:47:33
Speaker 3: Corman, Yeah, Drina, I'm not as surprised about Drake Thomas.
1:47:38
Speaker 3: I mean Tayakatta being then undrafted guy becoming the player
1:47:42
Speaker 3: that he has. That's a really pleasant surprise. But like
1:47:45
Speaker 3: Drake Thomas was playing in the ACC which I think
1:47:49
Speaker 3: you know some years is the second best conference in
1:47:52
Speaker 3: college football. It just depends by year. But he had
1:47:56
Speaker 3: almost twenty five tackles for loss his last year on CA.
1:48:00
Speaker 3: Like he has always been an incredibly disruptive player. He
1:48:05
Speaker 3: can cover, he can blitz, he can blow up runs
1:48:08
Speaker 3: in the backfield. I call him the human missile because
1:48:11
Speaker 3: that's how he plays like that. He just he flies
1:48:13
Speaker 3: to the football. And so getting to see him come
1:48:17
Speaker 3: back from the injury and a few years ago and
1:48:19
Speaker 3: then really put things together, he and Nick emn Warre
1:48:22
Speaker 3: just took that defense to a whole other level with
1:48:24
Speaker 3: their ability to fly over the field and make plays
1:48:27
Speaker 3: in all three facets of defense. And so I'm not
1:48:31
Speaker 3: expecting any step back. In fact, I'm expecting the best
1:48:34
Speaker 3: football is still in front of Drake Thomas after getting
1:48:37
Speaker 3: that new two year contract. He's such a fun player.
1:48:39
Speaker 1: Gorby wanted somebody ask me the day after going to Ota,
1:48:42
Speaker 1: just like what what's what are some of the things
1:48:45
Speaker 1: that you want to see? You actually wrote about it,
1:48:48
Speaker 1: and and I think it's true. It's you know what
1:48:52
Speaker 1: these what the young players do in their second or
1:48:55
Speaker 1: third years. And a great example you wrote about was
1:48:59
Speaker 1: look at the development and look at the change from
1:49:02
Speaker 1: year one to year two from let's just look at
1:49:04
Speaker 1: guys from two years ago, Bira Murphy and aj Barner, Like,
1:49:08
Speaker 1: just take those two guys out that step that they
1:49:11
Speaker 1: took from year one to year two. Now they're in,
1:49:14
Speaker 1: you know, and now they're in year three. So two
1:49:16
Speaker 1: to three, Zabel was a starter, Eman Worry was a starter.
1:49:20
Speaker 1: Both those guys. You could make an argument you may
1:49:22
Speaker 1: not win a super Bowl or even get to a
1:49:23
Speaker 1: Super Bowl without those two dudes, right, and so what's
1:49:26
Speaker 1: their next step as well? But there's others too. What
1:49:29
Speaker 1: about Tory Horton if he's healthy? What about Riley Mills?
1:49:33
Speaker 1: I would throw another guy in there. How about a
1:49:35
Speaker 1: Jalen Milroll. I think the I think the preseason really
1:49:38
Speaker 1: important for Jalen Mineral. Has he made has he taken
1:49:41
Speaker 1: that next step? Can he become a guy that you
1:49:43
Speaker 1: can have activated on your on your roster on a
1:49:46
Speaker 1: Sunday and a game day and maybe have him be
1:49:49
Speaker 1: part of something that's not just an option. Maybe he
1:49:52
Speaker 1: can throw the ball and causes more like those are
1:49:54
Speaker 1: all things, and I think that's why this time of
1:49:56
Speaker 1: the year, and then more importantly we get to July
1:49:58
Speaker 1: with training camp and then the preseason August. I think
1:50:00
Speaker 1: that's what's important. Thought it was a great, great point
1:50:02
Speaker 1: by you that look at the step these guys took
1:50:04
Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty four class and then look at
1:50:06
Speaker 1: the step that these guys could take from the twenty
1:50:08
Speaker 1: twenty five class.
1:50:11
Speaker 8: Yeah.
1:50:11
Speaker 3: I think in particular last year's rookie crop, when you
1:50:14
Speaker 3: consider that Riley Mills basically the red shirt most of
1:50:17
Speaker 3: his rookie year, He's the one I am the most
1:50:19
Speaker 3: excited about because I think he would have been a
1:50:22
Speaker 3: second round pick if he didn't have that injury. We
1:50:25
Speaker 3: got to see him have that awesome sack in the
1:50:27
Speaker 3: super Bowl. He's had this whole offseason to be healthy
1:50:30
Speaker 3: and not rehabbing. I just think that he's theither one
1:50:33
Speaker 3: of those really disruptive players that just makes an already
1:50:36
Speaker 3: really good defensive line that much better. And we've already
1:50:39
Speaker 3: seen what Tory Horton can do. We just have to
1:50:41
Speaker 3: hope that he can stay health, stay healthy. But we've
1:50:44
Speaker 3: never seen him Shaheed and Smith and Jigbaan in the
1:50:46
Speaker 3: field together, like the one that might be the odd
1:50:48
Speaker 3: man out in that case is Cooper Cup Like how
1:50:50
Speaker 3: much how much run does he get? And it goes
1:50:53
Speaker 3: back to that receiver depth they've got and even from
1:50:56
Speaker 3: two years ago, niam I Pritchett's gonna get that first
1:50:58
Speaker 3: crack to be the number two boundary corner in Nickel sets.
1:51:01
Speaker 3: Can he sees that opportunity. He's been good when he's
1:51:04
Speaker 3: had his opportunities, he's been bad when he's had his opportunities.
1:51:08
Speaker 3: He's been very up and down. Can you get consistency
1:51:11
Speaker 3: from him? Because if you can, I think niam I
1:51:13
Speaker 3: Pritchett can be a pretty good player still going into
1:51:16
Speaker 3: his third years. So a lot of those guys from
1:51:18
Speaker 3: those last two draft classes are gonna be the ones
1:51:20
Speaker 3: we have under the microscope here.
1:51:22
Speaker 1: The Prench is stuff interesting, like do you see enough
1:51:26
Speaker 1: in him? Like the body? When you see him on
1:51:28
Speaker 1: the field, he passes the eye test, But then when
1:51:31
Speaker 1: he's played in games, it's been at times a little
1:51:32
Speaker 1: bit of a horror show.
1:51:35
Speaker 3: He's been so up and down. There hasn't been a
1:51:38
Speaker 3: mid ground. But the fact that we have seen, like
1:51:41
Speaker 3: the past breakup he had against Marvin Harrison Junior in
1:51:44
Speaker 3: the end zone last year was arguably a top five
1:51:47
Speaker 3: play during the Super Bowl season, Like that was a
1:51:50
Speaker 3: phenomenal effort by him to knock the ball out him.
1:51:53
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald couldn't stop gushing about that play for like
1:51:56
Speaker 3: three weeks, just kept bringing it up. So we've seen
1:51:59
Speaker 3: evidence that he can be an effective player, it's just
1:52:02
Speaker 3: been finding that consistency with him. So does year three
1:52:06
Speaker 3: yield that for him? He is one of my biggest
1:52:09
Speaker 3: X factors for this football team going to this year
1:52:11
Speaker 3: because if he comes in and plays at a high
1:52:13
Speaker 3: level and he's consistent, that's gonna go a long ways
1:52:17
Speaker 3: towards not missing Reek wool and much, if at all.
1:52:20
Speaker 1: In that second Yer, all right, when we're when we're
1:52:22
Speaker 1: out there next week, I know top of the mind
1:52:26
Speaker 1: that you'll be watching because this is who you are.
1:52:29
Speaker 1: You'll be watching the running backs. What are we watching?
1:52:31
Speaker 1: Running backs? What else are we watching?
1:52:32
Speaker 8: On?
1:52:33
Speaker 1: When are we back out there? Tuesday? Tuesday? Wednesday? I think, yeah,
1:52:35
Speaker 1: what are you watching? Yeah?
1:52:38
Speaker 3: Running backs? I just want to kind of see how
1:52:39
Speaker 3: that rotation is settling. Where's Kenny Macintosh at is he
1:52:43
Speaker 3: going to be out there? At all things of that nature. Course,
1:52:46
Speaker 3: Jadarian Price getting to watch where he's getting reps and
1:52:49
Speaker 3: turns of first, second, third team offense, things like that.
1:52:53
Speaker 3: I'm also gonna be watching the interior defensive line just
1:52:56
Speaker 3: because I do wonder if there might be a competition
1:52:59
Speaker 3: developing and that defense have tackled that no spot, just
1:53:02
Speaker 3: because Devin Eastern is an intriguing rookie in my opinion,
1:53:05
Speaker 3: Brandon Peely got a new contract. We've seen Seattle though
1:53:09
Speaker 3: cut guys when they've done that. If the young player
1:53:11
Speaker 3: comes in, the rookie is even with him or offers
1:53:15
Speaker 3: some different things that Peeley can't.
1:53:18
Speaker 6: Or j R.
1:53:18
Speaker 3: Singleton in his second year, a guy they kept off
1:53:21
Speaker 3: last year. There's some intriguing guys there. I'm want to
1:53:24
Speaker 3: see how that rotation starts to be playing out. Do
1:53:27
Speaker 3: we see Jared Ivy play inside? Some those are the
1:53:30
Speaker 3: kind of position groups I'm gonna be looking at, with
1:53:32
Speaker 3: not a lot of starting jobs up for grabs, but
1:53:34
Speaker 3: certainly some really fun depth competitions on this Super Bowl roster.
1:53:39
Speaker 1: Devin Eastern, where's number ninety seven? You don't even have
1:53:42
Speaker 1: to know what number he wears? He jumps out like
1:53:44
Speaker 1: I noticed it. When you brought his name up. I
1:53:46
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, dude, like this walking around just kind
1:53:48
Speaker 1: of glant his football practice. It's sure, yeah, it's it's
1:53:50
Speaker 1: it's football practice in May. I'm like, okay, this and that,
1:53:53
Speaker 1: oh okay, oh yeah, that's Devin Eastern. Like you notice
1:53:56
Speaker 1: him like this, I don't know if he can move now.
1:53:59
Speaker 1: I also I say that like he's he's bigger and
1:54:04
Speaker 1: thicker than Mike Morris. But Mike Morris has one of
1:54:07
Speaker 1: those bodies too, that kind of you know, in a
1:54:09
Speaker 1: sport where there's a lot of big dudes, you know,
1:54:11
Speaker 1: they kind of jump out. Now, Morris has been an
1:54:13
Speaker 1: okay player, He's been serviceable for them, But boy, you
1:54:16
Speaker 1: do notice Devin Eastern, the undrafted or the seventh round
1:54:19
Speaker 1: draft pick. There's no doubt you notice him.
1:54:22
Speaker 3: He's kind of the Nami approach it equivalent when you
1:54:25
Speaker 3: look at his college film, because when he was on
1:54:28
Speaker 3: he was borderline unblockable. Like there were games in the
1:54:31
Speaker 3: Big Ten, which I think is the best conference in
1:54:33
Speaker 3: college football, there were games where he became an unblockable
1:54:37
Speaker 3: force with his ability to split gaps. He had thirty
1:54:40
Speaker 3: two pressures on quarterbacks the last two years too, so
1:54:43
Speaker 3: there's some pass rushing ability. But he even told us
1:54:46
Speaker 3: into the last press availability we had, like, my biggest
1:54:49
Speaker 3: issue has been consistency, and he's acknowledged that. Can you
1:54:52
Speaker 3: get the coaching to get that consistency out of him?
1:54:55
Speaker 3: Because if you can get the good side of him consistently,
1:55:00
Speaker 3: he's got a chance to be a absolute steal in
1:55:02
Speaker 3: the seventh round. He's got some really fun tape. It's
1:55:05
Speaker 3: just can we eliminate a lot of the bad tape
1:55:07
Speaker 3: that's there and the inconsistency It is game?
1:55:10
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1:55:13
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Speaker 7: Russell Wilson's not at the Angel of Wherever telling me
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Speaker 7: how to pray.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do.
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Speaker 7: Megan and Seue aren't together there. I don't even know
1:57:01
Speaker 7: what a line bike is. Clifford's off the podcast chart,
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Speaker 7: so I don't know. Go and go Seahawks, poor guy?
1:57:12
Speaker 1: Why is he so depressed?
1:57:13
Speaker 2: Well, Megan and Sue aren't together. Clifford's off the podcast.
1:57:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, this seems all have me upset too. I mean,
1:57:21
Speaker 1: Michael's not at the speedway, yeah, Kristin, Michael's not sounding
1:57:24
Speaker 1: autograss's gadget. Megan and Sue aren't riding the line bikes
1:57:31
Speaker 1: doing a podcast anymore. Yeah, why does it Sue look
1:57:34
Speaker 1: so much happier?
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Speaker 4: I don't know, you know what she's want to Mar's
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Speaker 4: her first place, buddy, are so depressed? That's her first place?
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Speaker 11: I will never understand the people who are getting the
1:58:00
Speaker 11: salary cap, like he says, oh, you know, the Dodgers
1:58:04
Speaker 11: will eventually age out, okay, and then it'll go to
1:58:07
Speaker 11: the Yankees or the Red Sox. Sometimes I just think
1:58:12
Speaker 11: It's like the same people who are complaining about the
1:58:14
Speaker 11: Seahawks being in the Super Bowl and they didn't like that,
1:58:17
Speaker 11: and then he wanted it to be the Rams. I swear,
1:58:19
Speaker 11: there's just people who just want to see the same
1:58:21
Speaker 11: teams in there every single year.
1:58:23
Speaker 1: It's obnoxious. First of all, the sider in the background
1:58:28
Speaker 1: was awesome, fantastic. Okay, and just go back to what
1:58:33
Speaker 1: he was referring to as our visit with the you
1:58:34
Speaker 1: know Sarah's an hour ago. Now, EEno brought up that
1:58:39
Speaker 1: we have had what's the number, seventy three percent?
1:58:44
Speaker 2: So I have my own version of that stat. Okay,
1:58:45
Speaker 2: go ahead, I don't want okay, go ahead.
1:58:48
Speaker 1: So now, actually, before you go all based on the
1:58:51
Speaker 1: news today, correct that the Major League Baseball owners have
1:58:56
Speaker 1: proposed a salary cap in the first very initial stages
1:59:00
Speaker 1: of negotiating a new collective partying agreement with the Major
1:59:03
Speaker 1: League Baseball Players Union and Association, which is up after
1:59:07
Speaker 1: this year. So with that as your context, salary cap
1:59:12
Speaker 1: being proposed, most people think it's never going to go through.
1:59:15
Speaker 1: Be very highly doubtful that it would. So one of
1:59:19
Speaker 1: the reasons that people want to go through is hey,
1:59:21
Speaker 1: more competitive ballance more parody in baseball the Kennedy Super
1:59:24
Speaker 1: Teams go ahead.
1:59:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, So since twenty fifteen, the list of total final participants,
1:59:33
Speaker 2: so that's NBA Finals, World Series, super Bowl, and Stanley
1:59:37
Speaker 2: Cup finals from the top four sports. In the NHL,
1:59:40
Speaker 2: there's been fourteen since twenty fifteen. This is ten years
1:59:46
Speaker 2: through twenty twenty five, so not including this year.
1:59:50
Speaker 1: NBA had twelve, so less than the NHL, less than
1:59:53
Speaker 1: the NHL, which I find surprising because the NHL feels
1:59:55
Speaker 1: like the Sam Old Samuel.
1:59:56
Speaker 2: Right, NFL eleven wow, and Major League Baseball fifteen the
2:00:02
Speaker 2: most out of any of them. So they've had the
2:00:05
Speaker 2: most finals participants, which I believe that if you could
2:00:09
Speaker 2: get to the final, you have a chance to win.
2:00:11
Speaker 3: Right.
2:00:11
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's a better I think it's a
2:00:13
Speaker 1: better number. I agree with you, I anders, I think
2:00:15
Speaker 1: it's a better number than if you just look at
2:00:18
Speaker 1: the playoffs or even championship, right, because I think what
2:00:23
Speaker 1: you're talking about, Okay, the elite teams that year, it's
2:00:27
Speaker 1: that's a lot. God, that's crazy.
2:00:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been more in baseball than any others, and
2:00:33
Speaker 2: the least is the NFL.
2:00:36
Speaker 1: And Hockey's weird because we've had a couple back to
2:00:39
Speaker 1: back titles. Yeah, you know Florida, we had the same
2:00:43
Speaker 1: two teams for the last two years, right, same part
2:00:46
Speaker 1: the matchup, Yeah in Florida Edmonton. Yeah, Vegas is back
2:00:51
Speaker 1: for what the third time? Yes, yes, in the finals. Yes,
2:00:55
Speaker 1: Colorado would have been back. They're the other team that
2:00:58
Speaker 1: was there. Right right. Is different as the East, and
2:01:02
Speaker 1: yet more teams from baseball than that, more teams in
2:01:05
Speaker 1: the NBA and football, which has the most strict of
2:01:10
Speaker 1: the salary caps, has the hardest cap, has the fewest
2:01:13
Speaker 1: teams in the in the title.
2:01:14
Speaker 2: So, I think MLB doesn't have a parody issue. It
2:01:18
Speaker 2: has a perception of parity issue. There's this perception that
2:01:24
Speaker 2: only the Dodgers, Yankees, Mets, whatever, Phillies have a chance
2:01:29
Speaker 2: to win and no one else does, even though that
2:01:32
Speaker 2: buy the numbers does not prove to be the case.
2:01:36
Speaker 1: Two five to three voicemail. Guy, don't let the owners
2:01:38
Speaker 1: tell you that a salary cap is to promote parody
2:01:40
Speaker 1: or competitive balance. It's about one thing, to control the costs.
2:01:43
Speaker 2: That's the other thing is I find it really funny
2:01:46
Speaker 2: how between players and owners everyone likes to crap on
2:01:50
Speaker 2: the owners a lot, and then when it comes to
2:01:52
Speaker 2: salary caps, it's you're siding with the owners. Yep, so interesting.
2:01:57
Speaker 2: How next, so Ian, you said, what am I gonna
2:02:02
Speaker 2: do tonight?
2:02:02
Speaker 1: Here's what you do.
2:02:04
Speaker 10: You go on to one of the movie old movie things,
2:02:08
Speaker 10: YouTube has it and find the movie Paper Lion.
2:02:14
Speaker 2: I've seen it starring Alan Alda. See it sports reporter
2:02:18
Speaker 2: who actually played George Plimpton for the Detroit Lions.
2:02:23
Speaker 6: Comma.
2:02:24
Speaker 2: Maybe you could do it one day.
2:02:26
Speaker 1: Bah, you never know. No, I would die.
2:02:28
Speaker 2: I love the comma. It's like he thinks he's Siri.
2:02:30
Speaker 1: I would die the I've actually seen them. I've seen
2:02:36
Speaker 1: the movie. It's based on the writer George Plimpton.
2:02:38
Speaker 8: He did.
2:02:39
Speaker 1: He did a bunch of sports. I know he played
2:02:41
Speaker 1: goalie for the Bruins, he played football for the Lions. Yeah,
2:02:44
Speaker 1: he did a bunch of Stuff's pretty cool. Yeah, I've
2:02:46
Speaker 1: seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. Good movie. I think
2:02:48
Speaker 1: I'll work on the golf tournament tonight and need to
2:02:50
Speaker 1: do some stuff with that. Fair enough, somebody said, uhe where.
2:02:54
Speaker 1: I know it's a forty five. I know it's a
2:02:55
Speaker 1: bit a drive from the MV, but it's thirsty Thursday
2:02:57
Speaker 1: at Cheenie Stadium. It's nice to get out those Skimaders games.
2:02:59
Speaker 1: And if nothing else to do, that is a good shout.
2:03:01
Speaker 1: So I first of all, you know me, I love
2:03:04
Speaker 1: the I love my friends. The Rainiers. We went there
2:03:06
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and it was not good weather.
2:03:08
Speaker 1: It was pouring down rain. They had an hour and
2:03:11
Speaker 1: forty five minute rain delay. But we hung out, had fun,
2:03:13
Speaker 1: had a few pops, had a Chick fil a, had
2:03:17
Speaker 1: some peanuts, watched two Cole Emerson at bats before we
2:03:20
Speaker 1: finally said we're pulling the plug.
2:03:21
Speaker 4: It's forty two degrees. So the one thing we did
2:03:23
Speaker 4: say is like I want to get back there, yeah,
2:03:25
Speaker 4: because it was a really well it's a nice day.
2:03:27
Speaker 4: It's a great place. They do a great job there, man,
2:03:30
Speaker 4: they do just such a good job. Ben in the
2:03:32
Speaker 4: cut and the boys down there and the ladies down there,
2:03:34
Speaker 4: they do a great job.
2:03:35
Speaker 1: All right.
2:03:36
Speaker 12: Next Ian, the biggest solution is quit having guaranteed contracts,
2:03:42
Speaker 12: or at least limit guaranteed contracts to four or five
2:03:47
Speaker 12: years so they don't do ten, twelve, fourteen year contracts
2:03:52
Speaker 12: that stifle teams A decade into the future.
2:03:59
Speaker 1: To talk about the Baseball guarantee your contracts.
2:04:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the thing is number one, if you feel
2:04:06
Speaker 2: like that contract's going to stifle you, don't sign it.
2:04:09
Speaker 2: First of all, and second of all. The teams that
2:04:11
Speaker 2: are doing that are the teams that don't care if
2:04:13
Speaker 2: it stifles them. They can spend all the money in
2:04:15
Speaker 2: the world.
2:04:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the difference. I mean, you're you're you if
2:04:18
Speaker 1: you don't have the same financial Listen, nobody has the
2:04:20
Speaker 1: same financial where with all the Dodgers Yankees are close. Mets.
2:04:24
Speaker 1: Mets have an owner's stupid rich. Actually, the Mets have
2:04:26
Speaker 1: the richest owner. Yeah, you know, he didn't care. No,
2:04:28
Speaker 1: his return on investment is not good, not very good,
2:04:32
Speaker 1: not good at all. Four two five, Yeah, tell the
2:04:36
Speaker 1: seventies powerhouses Cincinnati, the A's, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore. They have
2:04:39
Speaker 1: a chance to win. Well, Baltimore should be winning, they
2:04:41
Speaker 1: just are. What's that dumpster fire going on?
2:04:44
Speaker 2: They had the best record in the American League two
2:04:46
Speaker 2: years ago, two years ago. Yeah, yes, so, I mean
2:04:49
Speaker 2: you go through these cycles the A's, I think you
2:04:51
Speaker 2: have to take the A's out of the equator.
2:04:53
Speaker 1: Yea for now. Yeah, they've been playing this weird. I
2:04:56
Speaker 1: mean not just in Sacramento, but even the last few
2:04:58
Speaker 1: years and in uh in Oakland were a disaster. Yeah,
2:05:02
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Pittsburgh have no excuse. Joe's talked about this.
2:05:08
Speaker 1: She didn't talk about this a lot. They both benefit
2:05:11
Speaker 1: from the Dodgers spending money because they both get a
2:05:13
Speaker 1: rev share.
2:05:14
Speaker 2: Right from the tax.
2:05:15
Speaker 1: From the tax. They just are cheap. That's a them problem.
2:05:19
Speaker 1: That's not a baseball problems, correct, because your owner can
2:05:22
Speaker 1: spend what he wants or she whatever. This is the
2:05:26
Speaker 1: days of March shot, you know, with their dog at
2:05:28
Speaker 1: the ballpark at Riverfront Stadium. This is come on, all right,
2:05:31
Speaker 1: we got one more talk about.
2:05:34
Speaker 6: The Mariners are looking the definition of average. Oh hello,
2:05:40
Speaker 6: show they are so average. The Yankees will get er
2:05:47
Speaker 6: Schouble and they'll have Scooble and Coal and their other
2:05:53
Speaker 6: stud who's in line for the sim Like the man's
2:05:56
Speaker 6: got a lot, a lot, a lot of work to do.
2:05:59
Speaker 3: It was fun though, go team.
2:06:07
Speaker 1: I almost did. I almost did a confession for everybody today.
2:06:11
Speaker 1: Uh oh, not for me, but for giving everybody else
2:06:13
Speaker 1: the opportunity to confession. But I'll wait on that for tomorrow.
2:06:17
Speaker 1: You guys can all apologize to the baseball team. They're
2:06:19
Speaker 1: in first place. Okay, I have another blow five hunder nine.
2:06:22
Speaker 1: I know, I get that. I get that, all right.
2:06:31
Speaker 1: Let's get some text four nine, four five one, A
2:06:34
Speaker 1: lot of good ones today, two six. I always will
2:06:38
Speaker 1: always really hate the Thunder. I will forever find hilarious
2:06:41
Speaker 1: that as you city, and they should be the darlings
2:06:42
Speaker 1: of the sports nation. They's a small market team that
2:06:44
Speaker 1: made it, and they've completely ruined that by the way
2:06:46
Speaker 1: they play. They might make a team in New York
2:06:48
Speaker 1: the nation's team. I know the Knicks are now going
2:06:51
Speaker 1: to be everybody's favorite.
2:06:52
Speaker 2: Which is crazy, right, everyone hates the Knicks and everyone's
2:06:56
Speaker 2: gonna be rooting for them.
2:06:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many games you get? This is I gotta
2:07:00
Speaker 1: read this just because it's just the timings. How many
2:07:03
Speaker 1: games do you give until the Marritors fired Dan Wilson, Huh,
2:07:07
Speaker 1: I don't know a little bit.
2:07:10
Speaker 2: That was definitely a discussion heading into the A series. Yeah,
2:07:15
Speaker 2: I mean, a sweep of your Al West leading as
2:07:19
Speaker 2: will cool those off for sure.
2:07:22
Speaker 1: Let's get a couple of text about we asked about
2:07:23
Speaker 1: the move, the stress of the sale, the Seahawks. Are
2:07:26
Speaker 1: you stressed? Two five, three, I'm not worried at all.
2:07:29
Speaker 1: Where they would take where would they take the team
2:07:31
Speaker 1: to make more money than Seattle. They aren't as dumb
2:07:32
Speaker 1: as the NBA people letting the Sonics leave to podunk blank,
2:07:35
Speaker 1: okayc I would agree with the NBA. Well, I mean,
2:07:42
Speaker 1: there's this, we know the big reason they left. We
2:07:46
Speaker 1: know the second biggest reason they left among all the
2:07:49
Speaker 1: other things. You're right, the NBA was dumb more than anything.
2:07:55
Speaker 1: It was David Stern was petty, and he had a
2:08:01
Speaker 1: perfect partner and a guy that had helped him out
2:08:04
Speaker 1: during Hurricane Katrina with the relocation of the New Orleans
2:08:06
Speaker 1: franchise Oklahoma City and played in Bennett. He could just
2:08:09
Speaker 1: make that work. But he was petty. That was a
2:08:12
Speaker 1: That was, you know, one of the many reasons. But yeah,
2:08:15
Speaker 1: I don't think the NFL is that time. Marcus couldn't
2:08:18
Speaker 1: care any less about the sale, forget about it, forgot
2:08:19
Speaker 1: about it until Greg said something today. Yeah, I don't
2:08:23
Speaker 1: know how much of a top of the mind Keith Miller.
2:08:26
Speaker 1: My biggest start of the CXO would be the new
2:08:27
Speaker 1: owner that has no familiarity or dealing with the politicians
2:08:29
Speaker 1: in the city. It's not an easy city to work with. Yeah,
2:08:32
Speaker 1: I get that they got the least coming up in
2:08:34
Speaker 1: six years. I don't think it's they got enough smart
2:08:37
Speaker 1: people in the Virginia Mason Athletic Center building. They understand
2:08:40
Speaker 1: the climate here. The people that are here, the business people.
2:08:43
Speaker 1: The business people understand the climate. What moreries me the
2:08:45
Speaker 1: most is how bad things have been in Portland. Truth is.
2:08:48
Speaker 1: My concerned about the Trailblazers includes the time it was
2:08:50
Speaker 1: owned by the Allen family. What a disaster of a franchise.
2:08:52
Speaker 1: Paul tron around the Hawks. It seems like never he
2:08:54
Speaker 1: never put any thought in the Blazers. That's wrong. I
2:08:58
Speaker 1: can tell you for a fact, when Paul was alive,
2:09:00
Speaker 1: and especially when he was alive and healthy, which wasn't
2:09:03
Speaker 1: a lot the last decade or so he was on
2:09:05
Speaker 1: this earth, but he was, he deeply cared about the Blazers.
2:09:10
Speaker 1: I think, to the point where he made bad decisions
2:09:12
Speaker 1: based on his fandom sometimes. Like my only criticism him ever,
2:09:16
Speaker 1: would be that he didn't care. He wanted to spend money.
2:09:21
Speaker 1: He would well into the luxury tax with teams that
2:09:24
Speaker 1: never got to the finals that imploded in two thousand
2:09:27
Speaker 1: and two playoffs. All that Paul really cared about the Blazers.
2:09:31
Speaker 10: Yeah, I.
2:09:33
Speaker 1: Working there and then going back down and working the
2:09:36
Speaker 1: TV broadcast for them from eight until twenty twelve. I
2:09:40
Speaker 1: guess it was. He was at almost every single game.
2:09:48
Speaker 1: He deeply cared about Blazers. Now Jody didn't really care.
2:09:51
Speaker 1: I'll give you that.
2:09:52
Speaker 2: It is funny how they wanted. They kind of gave
2:09:56
Speaker 2: a lot of crap the Portland market did with the
2:09:58
Speaker 2: Blazers about the Allen owner ship, and then now look
2:10:01
Speaker 2: what their situation is, uh.
2:10:03
Speaker 1: Single Hill Brewery and the vibe tonight for brewers. Oh
2:10:06
Speaker 1: there you go. Okay talking, you're talking my language. Now
2:10:10
Speaker 1: now you're talking my language. Yeah, okay, we'll see that
2:10:15
Speaker 1: could happen, That could happen. Okay, we're good, We're good,
2:10:20
Speaker 1: David Softy Maller, we'll join us next already, then here
2:10:37
Speaker 1: we are, Ny Softy moll what you salary cap guy?
2:10:45
Speaker 4: Absolutely, look what it's done for the NFL, greatest league
2:10:49
Speaker 4: in the world, because it's the parody.
2:10:54
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, give him the stats, the stat give him
2:10:56
Speaker 1: a stat.
2:10:57
Speaker 4: Stat.
2:10:59
Speaker 2: We're waiting for the four major sports. The list of
2:11:04
Speaker 2: total finals participants, so the final game, NBA Finals, super Bowl,
2:11:09
Speaker 2: World Series, and Stanley Cup Finals. This is through last year,
2:11:13
Speaker 2: so ten years twenty fifteen to twenty foury five, NHL
2:11:16
Speaker 2: is fourteen. So hang on a second, rephrase the stat
2:11:20
Speaker 2: again for me, the total team total teams who have
2:11:24
Speaker 2: been to the final?
2:11:26
Speaker 1: Gotcha? In these four sports you need teams how many years?
2:11:30
Speaker 2: Ten years, twenty fifteen through twenty twenty five, NHL fourteen,
2:11:35
Speaker 2: NBA twelve, NFL eleven, and MLB fifteen the most.
2:11:42
Speaker 4: Now do the last twenty years. You know Sarah's had
2:11:45
Speaker 4: the twenty years. Now do the last thirty years, and
2:11:48
Speaker 4: now do the last forty years. And now tell me
2:11:50
Speaker 4: how many total teams in each sport make the playoffs
2:11:54
Speaker 4: in those time spans, and how many franchises and fan
2:11:57
Speaker 4: bases think their teams have a chance.
2:11:59
Speaker 2: To play or playoffs or the world sing And that's
2:12:02
Speaker 2: the difference. It's not like the actual question, it's the
2:12:05
Speaker 2: perception of it exactly.
2:12:06
Speaker 1: So you look at if you look at the NFL,
2:12:08
Speaker 1: for example, right going in, So what did we just
2:12:10
Speaker 1: decide on there?
2:12:11
Speaker 2: Okay?
2:12:11
Speaker 1: That well, baseball guy will tell you baseball guy will
2:12:16
Speaker 1: tell you is that you by the way, No, he's
2:12:17
Speaker 1: sort of baseball He's kind of half baseball guy.
2:12:20
Speaker 2: I'm not smart enough for that.
2:12:21
Speaker 1: So my two baseball nerds, Shean and you know Sarahs
2:12:26
Speaker 1: that like just numbers, both will swear up and down
2:12:29
Speaker 1: the salary cap means nothing now and you can you can.
2:12:32
Speaker 2: I think they will.
2:12:33
Speaker 4: They will swear that their salary cap and baseball means
2:12:35
Speaker 4: you would do nothing. Let me ask you a question,
2:12:37
Speaker 4: how the hell do they know? They've never done it,
2:12:40
Speaker 4: so it's never happened. What data do you have to
2:12:43
Speaker 4: tell me it means.
2:12:44
Speaker 1: Nothing, Dad? I think more importantly, I think more importantly,
2:12:46
Speaker 1: I don't think it ever will. Okay, that I agree with.
2:12:49
Speaker 1: That's a different story because when we brought this up,
2:12:51
Speaker 1: because the story cross today for people just tuning in
2:12:53
Speaker 1: that the MLB owners came up for the first time,
2:12:55
Speaker 1: they said the first proposal in the new CBA, you
2:12:59
Speaker 1: know bargaining situation, wa, here's our first thing, our first proposal,
2:13:03
Speaker 1: salary cap. And they threw the numbers out there. Right,
2:13:06
Speaker 1: we all know that that that that's not going to
2:13:09
Speaker 1: happen because I don't think God, I mean, we could
2:13:11
Speaker 1: be sitting here a year from now with salary cap.
2:13:13
Speaker 4: I think there is going to be a salary cap. Well,
2:13:15
Speaker 4: it's going to take a brutal strike. Ye, that's what's
2:13:18
Speaker 4: And I heard you guys talking about that. Just when
2:13:21
Speaker 4: the m's are getting good, they go ask expo fans
2:13:24
Speaker 4: how they feel about that? Have you have you ever
2:13:26
Speaker 4: seen looked at the ninety four standings? By the way,
2:13:29
Speaker 4: have you seen the have you seen yourself a favor? Sorry,
2:13:31
Speaker 4: and go look at where the Expos were and then
2:13:33
Speaker 4: report back to me. Have you seen the Netflix story
2:13:35
Speaker 4: on that?
2:13:36
Speaker 8: No?
2:13:36
Speaker 1: So the Netflix Netflix did the you know what do
2:13:38
Speaker 1: they call it the undercover or whatever, like they did
2:13:40
Speaker 1: with the Tim Donney and all that stuff. They did
2:13:42
Speaker 1: an incredible, incredible documentary on the Expos. In that year,
2:13:49
Speaker 1: the Expos would probably still be a Montreal That's the
2:13:51
Speaker 1: whole point if they had won the World Series, not
2:13:53
Speaker 1: for lockdown. So that's my problem is we're going to
2:13:55
Speaker 1: be here in August. How about that July they went twenty.
2:13:58
Speaker 4: Five and five seventy four and they were the best
2:14:02
Speaker 4: team in baseball, They were on pace to win one
2:14:04
Speaker 4: hundred and five games, and they shut her down. Can
2:14:07
Speaker 4: you imagine, dude, I think the I think every team
2:14:11
Speaker 4: in the West was under five hundred when the year ended.
2:14:16
Speaker 2: It's funny because we talked about how bad the West
2:14:19
Speaker 2: is now Texas Rangers were first in the West with
2:14:22
Speaker 2: a fifty two and sixty two tens under.
2:14:25
Speaker 4: Ten names under like they were a game under no, right,
2:14:28
Speaker 4: they were ten games under five hundred. They were of
2:14:31
Speaker 4: baseball tests and they were going to make the playoffs.
2:14:33
Speaker 4: But what you guys said, and look, I don't mean
2:14:35
Speaker 4: to sound any alarm bells here, but I think we
2:14:38
Speaker 4: have to realize that there is a chance this happens.
2:14:42
Speaker 4: It's not zero and it's not one hundred. No, there's
2:14:44
Speaker 4: a chance. The chance exists. No, no, that we're not
2:14:48
Speaker 4: playing baseball in two months from now that could happen.
2:14:50
Speaker 4: That's striking right that they do exactly because they did
2:14:53
Speaker 4: thirty years ninety four went on August twelfth, I think
2:14:57
Speaker 4: it was. What was the date, I think it was
2:14:59
Speaker 4: August twelve. Look at the other players went on strike.
2:15:02
Speaker 4: They shut her down.
2:15:03
Speaker 1: No World Series. Nothing.
2:15:05
Speaker 4: I got a ball from the World Series, ninety four
2:15:07
Speaker 4: World Series baseball.
2:15:08
Speaker 1: And see I brought it. When I brought them we're
2:15:10
Speaker 1: sitting here.
2:15:10
Speaker 2: In the middle of May.
2:15:11
Speaker 1: Guys, there's a chance in three months we're done well.
2:15:14
Speaker 1: And that's why I brought it up earlier, because when
2:15:15
Speaker 1: that's when the story came out and we could look
2:15:17
Speaker 1: at nobody knows salary cap good or bad, parody. All
2:15:22
Speaker 1: that we can. We can look at all the numbers
2:15:23
Speaker 1: and stats. What we do know is that history tells
2:15:27
Speaker 1: us that probably the most powerful union of players in
2:15:32
Speaker 1: all the four major sports would be Major League Baseball,
2:15:34
Speaker 1: for sure, and they have never budged on that on
2:15:37
Speaker 1: a salary cap. And to the point of, like you
2:15:39
Speaker 1: just said in ninety four, and that's what does scar
2:15:42
Speaker 1: I joke about being twenty five and five in July
2:15:43
Speaker 1: and then shutting the team DOWND that would be our life.
2:15:46
Speaker 4: Well, different different era, different attitudes of players, you know.
2:15:49
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to use a term that
2:15:52
Speaker 4: may irritate some people, but you know, progressive attitudes, I
2:15:55
Speaker 4: guess right from some players now versus thirty years ago.
2:15:59
Speaker 4: Every got the American Sports League, right of note, has
2:16:02
Speaker 4: a salary in some form of it, every single one.
2:16:05
Speaker 4: And you know, to anders point about how many teams
2:16:07
Speaker 4: you know played in the World Series. Look to me,
2:16:10
Speaker 4: it's not just about that. And this is where Dick
2:16:13
Speaker 4: and I have gone back and forth on payroll and
2:16:15
Speaker 4: paying guys and the teams that spend the most money. Well, okay,
2:16:18
Speaker 4: tell me how many of them play in the ALCS,
2:16:21
Speaker 4: how many of them play in the NLCS. How many
2:16:24
Speaker 4: of them have a shot to make the World Series?
2:16:26
Speaker 4: How many of them can convince their fan base to
2:16:28
Speaker 4: come out and sell out every single game in September
2:16:32
Speaker 4: because they think they have a shot to win the title.
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Speaker 1: And there might be seven or eight teams that feel
2:16:37
Speaker 1: like that.
2:16:37
Speaker 4: And I think this, actually the greatest thing Bud Selig
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Speaker 4: ever did for me was the expansion of the baseball
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Speaker 4: playoff tournament. Why do they do that because they want
2:16:47
Speaker 4: more cities thinking they have a shot. Why do you
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Speaker 4: put a salary cap in to let more cities think
2:16:53
Speaker 4: they have a shot. Yet the owners are against that
2:16:56
Speaker 4: or the players are against that, but they'refore the expansion
2:16:59
Speaker 4: of the base well playoffs where more guys can shine.
2:17:02
Speaker 1: I'll wrap it up with this real Quixanders brought this
2:17:04
Speaker 1: up r when I think it's one hundred percent trough.
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Speaker 1: Maybe more important than the cap is the basement the
2:17:08
Speaker 1: floor exactly, because then it forces all those teams you
2:17:11
Speaker 1: just talked about to actually spend more than eighty millions.
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Speaker 4: The spot track stat on that, By the way, there's
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Speaker 4: fifteen teams in baseball that would not meet the ceiling.
2:17:22
Speaker 4: The Mariners are one of them on the floor. Sorry late, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: they would not. According to Michael Janet, here's twelve according
2:17:29
Speaker 4: to the spot David he says they're nine million short.
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Speaker 2: Is that on Twitter?
2:17:33
Speaker 4: Yes, I'll send it to you because we so we
2:17:35
Speaker 4: counted twelve. Either way, there's six teams spending too much money.
2:17:40
Speaker 4: I wrote fifteen. Maybe it's twelve. He thinks the M's
2:17:42
Speaker 4: are one, But that's exactly it. Like the Marlins are
2:17:45
Speaker 4: way under they're like ninety million dollars away from meeting that.
2:17:50
Speaker 1: That's an ownership forces them to get That's not a
2:17:52
Speaker 1: baseball problem. That's that's an ownership problem. San Diego's a
2:17:55
Speaker 1: small market and they're well over the cap.
2:17:57
Speaker 4: It's a it's a it's a baseball problem if you
2:17:59
Speaker 4: allow the wrong guys to buy teams, and they've allowed
2:18:02
Speaker 4: the wrong guys to buy teams.
2:18:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that's part of it. So anyway, what are
2:18:05
Speaker 1: you doing today? What's today? Is today?
2:18:07
Speaker 12: Thursday?
2:18:07
Speaker 2: Yes, boon is on today.
2:18:08
Speaker 4: Well that's booney about a salary camp.
2:18:10
Speaker 1: What do you think He'll say, I'm not gonna like
2:18:12
Speaker 1: it and show up.
2:18:15
Speaker 4: Rare Roberts is back on the show today, Hawks coming
2:18:18
Speaker 4: out of the OTAs. We're gonna talk about the f
2:18:20
Speaker 4: you Thunder and the Spurs. Tonight we'll hit on this
2:18:23
Speaker 4: salary cap story. Obviously in baseball there's a lot going on. Man,
2:18:27
Speaker 4: the Seahawks sale potentially you saw that from Rapaport today.
2:18:30
Speaker 1: I got some stuff. I'll robust. I'll give you some
2:18:33
Speaker 1: stuff and a billion dollars. You don't listen to my shace.
2:18:36
Speaker 1: You listen to my show. You have a show.
2:18:39
Speaker 10: No.
2:18:39
Speaker 1: I thought you went on every day to forty five
2:18:40
Speaker 1: to talk to me. I do.
2:18:42
Speaker 4: I thought that's why you were here, That's why it
2:18:44
Speaker 4: helped me transition. That's what I live for. I live
2:18:46
Speaker 4: to come on at to forty five and talk to you.
2:18:48
Speaker 4: You know now that I know, I'll tune in what
2:18:50
Speaker 4: time you want.
2:18:52
Speaker 1: I don't know.
2:18:53
Speaker 4: For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable the inverness, this
2:18:58
Speaker 4: is paddle day saying, so along everyone