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Ken Rosenthal on latest Jays/Vladdy Jr. offers, Yanks luxury tax dance, Mo Vaughn's HGH admission · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: And for these guys to give up ten minutes of
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  Speaker 2: Rangers fans are gonna love the backdrop today where it's Surprise. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: It's called Surprise and it's where the twenty twenty three
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  Speaker 2: World Series champions are joining us throughout the day. We're excited.
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  Speaker 2: We got some big names. Okay, so we'll get to
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  Speaker 2: all that, but aj I also want to double down
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  Speaker 2: So AJ have fun. Grab a cocktail for us please
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  Speaker 2: if you can as well.
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  Speaker 3: Is well.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, don't say we're going to be there, Scott,
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  Speaker 4: because you didn't come to Arizona. Krats didn't come to Arizona. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: so when you say we say me and Alana, please
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  Speaker 4: refer to us with some respect, Scott, please it.
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  Speaker 1: Do we travel acrossation? I didn't see that I lost email.
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  Speaker 3: Did you check your spam folder?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll check my spam folder. Yeah, that's what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I'm going to hop on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we are here in surprise. By the way, this
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  Speaker 3: play has grown up so much. I haven't been years.
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  Speaker 4: As I played for the Rangers in twenty thirteen, and
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  Speaker 4: it used to be literally it was called surprise because
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  Speaker 4: you were like, surprise, there's a baseball field in the
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  Speaker 4: middle of just farms. But now this place is gigantic.
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  Speaker 4: There's a million things to do out here. It's way bigger,
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  Speaker 4: way better. But if you hear, like some planes flying
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  Speaker 4: over my head repeatedly, the what is it? F twenty
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  Speaker 4: two raptors are doing an air show over us, just
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  Speaker 4: flying back and forth. So America, God bless you. I
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  Speaker 4: love you America. But man, is it cool to watch
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  Speaker 4: these planes just go. It's like a flyover every ten minutes.
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  Speaker 1: That's the worst part of being a royal or I
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  Speaker 1: guess a ranger. When you're in camp there the Air
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  Speaker 1: Force base is right there, and it's real air Force.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it is jets all day long, and you're
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  Speaker 1: just like, yeah, you're in the middle of a drill
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  Speaker 1: and you're just like, you're seeing two jets flying tandem.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm supposed to focus on what I'm doing,
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  Speaker 1: so it's real. And that's what That's what Chris Young
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  Speaker 1: said when we were playing in the Fall League. We
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  Speaker 1: drove from Peoria all out to Surprise and he goes, surprise,
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  Speaker 1: ain't nothing here. It was amazing how there was nothing
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  Speaker 1: there and now it's blown up. That was in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and five when I first saw Surprise.
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  Speaker 2: Baseball is booming. It is leading to a lot of
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  Speaker 2: business in Surprise and other spots.
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  Speaker 4: One of the all time things, by the way, just
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  Speaker 4: saying Surprise is the location where when we were into
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  Speaker 4: some of the White Sox, we had a helicopter pick
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  Speaker 4: us up and fly us back home, saying I have
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  Speaker 4: memories here.
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  Speaker 2: Mmmmm flex. So let's flex at our spring training schedule
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of the week. Sorry about it. The
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  Speaker 2: if you're looking, those are done, and so are the
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers and Ninebacks. They were at Texas Rangers camp in Surprise,
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  Speaker 2: as we mentioned. Then White Sox camp A's camp to
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  Speaker 2: round out the week, and then we'll be back in
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  Speaker 2: Florida for camps next week. We'll give you that schedule
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  Speaker 2: later on. All right, we have a lot of combos
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  Speaker 2: to get to, so let's charge the damn mound and
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  Speaker 2: talk about a team that gets the attention and every
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  Speaker 2: day this week, let's charge about aj is probably gonna
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  Speaker 2: be like I'm super talking about the Yankees, but deal
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  Speaker 2: with it because they lost basically half their team already
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  Speaker 2: in the last few weeks, and we finally got some
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  Speaker 2: word from the decision makers. So let's start with Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Boone because this is only relevant for the first week,
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  Speaker 2: but it still matters. Booney said it might not line
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  Speaker 2: up for Max Free to be the opening day starter
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  Speaker 2: just because of when Garrett Cole went down and how
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  Speaker 2: everyone is slotted. They're going to continue to work through
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  Speaker 2: that and that they'll make an announcement in the next
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  Speaker 2: few days. As far as who was starting opening day,
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  Speaker 2: Brian Cashman also spoke, and he said very little is
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  Speaker 2: available in the pitching marketplace at this time of year.
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  Speaker 2: He said the Yankees are going to rely on what
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  Speaker 2: they have and that they will explore outside opportunities, but
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  Speaker 2: luxury tax penalties make it less likely they will add
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  Speaker 2: from the outside. We also have some cash, sound, so
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  Speaker 2: let's run that.
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  Speaker 5: So we've had to We've taken a number of hits,
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  Speaker 5: and the starting invitation certainly can't take a can't afford
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  Speaker 5: to take too many more. So if we obviously, uh
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  Speaker 5: rely on what we have and explore what's outside.
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  Speaker 2: At the same time, we'll.
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  Speaker 5: Just evaluate what's available, and in this time of year,
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  Speaker 5: it's very little is available. You know, normally uh more
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  Speaker 5: significant opportunities don't exist until trade deadline. So ultimately, when
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  Speaker 5: you know, we've had these conversations many times over, and
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  Speaker 5: you know, you try, you hope that you can withstand
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  Speaker 5: injuries and avoid injuries, you know, early from spring training
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  Speaker 5: up through the draft, because going outside the.
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  Speaker 3: Organization is just that much more difficult to do.
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  Speaker 5: So so we'll rely on what we have and we'll explore,
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  Speaker 5: you know, what's limited available in the marketplace, and you'll
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  Speaker 5: see what we see what we're doing. But obviously it's
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  Speaker 5: gonna have to We're gonna have to stay up in
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  Speaker 5: all areas, you know, because we've lost some key guys.
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  Speaker 5: But that's also part of the business.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll do a little That's what he said, quote
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  Speaker 2: deciphering AJ for everyone, luxury tax penalties means my boss
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  Speaker 2: said he's turning the faucet off, and he gave me
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  Speaker 2: plenty of resources and goes deal with it. For the
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  Speaker 2: rest in fairness, AJA, it's not like there's all these
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  Speaker 2: huge starters on the market for them to grab. But
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  Speaker 2: he might even be pointing to the fact that if
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  Speaker 2: they wanted to try and pull off a trade for
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  Speaker 2: a starter who's making double digit millions, they don't want
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  Speaker 2: to do it because they'd get taxed big on the dollars,
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  Speaker 2: even though they also are getting a lot of money
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  Speaker 2: back on Garrett Cole's insurance policy.
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  Speaker 4: Hold up, First of all, let me ask this question, Kratson.
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  Speaker 4: I want you to your opinion on this. Max Free
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  Speaker 4: doesn't lined up. All you gotta do is bump him
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  Speaker 4: a day or a day, or you can change his
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  Speaker 4: throwing rotation. So who are they going to start? If
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  Speaker 4: no one's lined up, who's the opening day starter? Then, like,
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  Speaker 4: come on, they're not going to start some minor league
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  Speaker 4: on opening did this is the New York Yankees? Lance
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  Speaker 4: lends available? A lot of people are available. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: come on, Kyle Gibson's available. They can find somebody if
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  Speaker 4: they want to. Don't give me that.
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  Speaker 3: And yes, like you said, there is insurance on Kara
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  Speaker 1: How does not like that luxury tax, Whether it's paying
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  Speaker 1: Lancelin five millions turns into ten million, he doesn't like that,
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  Speaker 1: or it's the fact that that extra five million he's
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  Speaker 1: getting taxed goes to the camp that we were at
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  Speaker 1: last week with the pirates with the Brewers, with the Rays.
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  Speaker 1: You know, wherever that luxury tax goes, he just is
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  Speaker 1: like set on not going that far over it. They're
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  Speaker 1: already over it. I think they're at three hundred and something.
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  Speaker 1: So essentially, he spent the money. He put the he
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  Speaker 1: brought the wallet out this offseason. He said, here's the money.
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  Speaker 1: You can either get Wan Soto or you can go
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  Speaker 1: and get Devin Williams. You can get Max Freed, you
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  Speaker 1: can go and you can make these moves. So here
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  Speaker 1: you go. What's your choice. And to me, I thought
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  Speaker 1: Cashman had a great offseason, tough, tough spring training so far, injuries.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's tough for the Yankees to even
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  Speaker 2: publicly say, oh, that luxury tax.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 2: There was also some stuff flying around socials in the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of days about how much money they made
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  Speaker 2: last year compared to other years. It's just a tough
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  Speaker 2: look when you're the Yanks and the Dodgers just spend
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that they're in a much better depth
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  Speaker 2: position than last year. That's my opinion. I know you
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  Speaker 2: can't just buy your way out of every single problem,
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  Speaker 2: but the Yankees used to be able to do that
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  Speaker 2: and That's why it hurts. Yankee fans are going to
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  Speaker 2: be angry because the season hasn't started yet and they're
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  Speaker 2: losing players left and right, and then the team's like
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  Speaker 2: luxury tax.
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  Speaker 1: Right now. There's nothing you can do. They're going to
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  Speaker 1: add somebody if they need to add somebody, and they
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  Speaker 1: don't feel like they need to add somebody in the
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  Speaker 1: off season. They had enough depth. They had six starters.
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  Speaker 1: You can't you can't go in and say, oh, we
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  Speaker 1: need seven or eight stars ten like the Dodgers. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a it's not a feasible way to run an organization.
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  Speaker 1: And you had no idea those guys were gonna go down.
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  Speaker 1: They had enough depth. I don't want to hear that
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  Speaker 1: they didn't have enough. They should have spent more, they
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  Speaker 1: should have gotten Corbyn, Burns, this and that. No, because
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  Speaker 1: then you have a situation like you had with Stroman,
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  Speaker 1: where you know you have a really good pitcher that's
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  Speaker 1: not gonna be all pitch, but now he can. They
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  Speaker 1: had enough depth. It's just gonna be tough to fight
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  Speaker 1: through it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think there's a ton of places
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  Speaker 2: they can turn right now. And even asad from taking
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  Speaker 2: on if you want, say a cease or an al contra.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they have the prospect capital. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they're not trading Jason Dimingez from their big league team. Sure,
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  Speaker 2: you want to make a case for Spencer Jones, but
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  Speaker 2: it's a tough spot. It's not a loaded farm system
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  Speaker 2: at the moment. Let's hit the inside scoop with FT
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  Speaker 2: senior insider Ken Rosenthal sitting next to AJ Prazinski right
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  Speaker 2: now in surprise Arizona. Ken, good to see you. I
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  Speaker 2: do want to get straight to biz while AJ bothers
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  Speaker 2: you the entire time. But let's see how we do here,
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  Speaker 2: because there is a lot surfacing about Vladdie Junior. You
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  Speaker 2: wrote about him and reported about what the money looks like.
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  Speaker 2: So what else can you tell us? Because this is
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  Speaker 2: cool for us to get kind of inside the negotiations.
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  Speaker 2: We don't always get this well.
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  Speaker 6: First of all, the New York Post reported yesterday that
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  Speaker 6: the Jays offer was in the five hundred million dollar range,
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  Speaker 6: but with deferrals around four hundred to four to fifty.
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  Speaker 6: Now it's closer to four fifty according to sports That.
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  Speaker 6: They reported that this morning. So that's where the Jays
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  Speaker 6: were four to fifty present value. And then I reported
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  Speaker 6: yesterday as well that Va Guerrero Junior's ask is five
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  Speaker 6: hundred present day value. So the difference we're talking about
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  Speaker 6: AJ is fifty million dollars over fourteen years. That's not
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  Speaker 6: a lot of money. They can do that. They at
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  Speaker 6: least they can compromise on it. So I don't know
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  Speaker 6: how to quite interpret all this. Scott. I would say
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  Speaker 6: it's not necessarily over. If the Jays come back to him.
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  Speaker 6: Vlad Junior has said if they come with a realistic
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  Speaker 6: offer before opening the day, I'll listen, but it's got
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  Speaker 6: to be realistic in his mind. And again the gap,
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  Speaker 6: based on what was reported yesterday by myself, John Haymond Sportsnet,
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  Speaker 6: it just doesn't seem to be that significant. So I
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  Speaker 6: don't know if it gets done, it should get done.
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  Speaker 6: He is a homegown player, he is a Native Canadian.
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  Speaker 6: He was, of course the son of Va Guerrero Senior
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  Speaker 6: and Vladguerrero Senior at that time was playing for Montreal
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  Speaker 6: and he wants to stay. So I just don't see
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  Speaker 6: the problem unless somehow the Jays don't value him properly.
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  Speaker 6: And if that's the case, then why draw from four
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  Speaker 6: hundred and fifty million. So it's a kind of a
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  Speaker 6: It's been a curious situation from the very beginning, honestly,
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  Speaker 6: and it remains curious.
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  Speaker 4: I've said for days since since the deadline came and
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  Speaker 4: passed right that Flad is winning this fight because the
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  Speaker 4: way his team is handled, he basically has now thrown
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  Speaker 4: it back. This is the second time he's thrown it
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  Speaker 4: back on the team. So all the pressures on Blue
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  Speaker 4: Jays right now because they have a whole country that.
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  Speaker 3: Is looking at them.
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  Speaker 4: And when he came out and said, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: want to stay here, I want all this, and they
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  Speaker 4: didn't make a fair offer. And then he comes out
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  Speaker 4: and he gives the offer what we think, and he says, hey,
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  Speaker 4: if they get to five hundred, I'll take it. It's
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  Speaker 4: almost like now the Blue Jays are backed into a corner.
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  Speaker 4: They almost have to go there, don't they.
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  Speaker 6: I would agree teams don't necessarily think how I think,
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  Speaker 6: or you think, or the average fan thinks. But it
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  Speaker 6: just seems to me that this is a battle, if
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  Speaker 6: you want to call it that, or I should say
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  Speaker 6: a negotiation. The Jays need to get done because their
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  Speaker 6: team going forward is in trouble with al Vladd Junior
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  Speaker 6: and Boba Schet, both of whom are eligible for free agency,
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  Speaker 6: and they've got other free agents coming up in the
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  Speaker 6: next couple of years, and their farm system is weak.
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  Speaker 6: It's a bottom five farm system, I believe by most analyzes.
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  Speaker 6: So to me, Blad Junior is the guy you build around.
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  Speaker 6: He's going to be twenty seven next year, his first
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  Speaker 6: free agent year. That seems to me a driving force
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  Speaker 6: for them, or should be. And I don't quite know
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  Speaker 6: what the problem is.
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  Speaker 1: We always hear about like, oh, well, the organization doesn't
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  Speaker 1: value this player as high as he's asking. Does this
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  Speaker 1: feel like a front office choice to not go to
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  Speaker 1: the extra fifty or an ownership choice to not go
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  Speaker 1: to the extra fifty.
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  Speaker 6: I would say it's a front office choice because clearly
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  Speaker 6: they have the money. They bid almost seven hundred for Soto,
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  Speaker 6: they bid for Otani last year. They are not a
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  Speaker 6: team that is necessarily fretting over fifty million. In their ownership.
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  Speaker 6: The Rogers Communications Corporation is one of the wealthiest in
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  Speaker 6: the game. They have a massive, of course company that
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  Speaker 6: spans throughout Canada, so I would expect that, yes, it's
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  Speaker 6: a front office decision. And listen, flat Junior as a player,
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  Speaker 6: He's a really great hitter. We all know that he
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  Speaker 6: also is a first baseman. We know that not a
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  Speaker 6: great defender. I would say he's not much different than
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  Speaker 6: Soto in some respects. Not the same kind of hitter, obviously,
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  Speaker 6: not as consistent, not as accomplished. But you can see
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  Speaker 6: where there might be some hesitation on the club's part.
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  Speaker 6: I understand that at the same time, he's your guy.
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  Speaker 6: And if he's your guy and the going rate just
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  Speaker 6: went up when Wan Soto signed and you had a
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  Speaker 6: chance to sign Blad Junior for cheaper, that's on you.
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  Speaker 6: And again, to me, this just should get done. And
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  Speaker 6: I'm not quite sure why it wouldn't get done, other
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  Speaker 6: than the fact that their valuations seem to be different
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  Speaker 6: than Flag Junior's.
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  Speaker 4: Is this Shapiro's and ross atkins last chance because they're
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  Speaker 4: obviously they're on the hot seat and their contracts are
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  Speaker 4: up at the end of the year, correct, and so
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  Speaker 4: everyone's been talking about this and they need to win
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  Speaker 4: and they need to give lad and both signed. If
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  Speaker 4: they don't get this done, is this the straw?
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  Speaker 6: It's a good question. And with their situation, it's Shapiro
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  Speaker 6: and his last year. Atkins has two more. Okay, sorry,
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  Speaker 6: but that's pretty much where they are. And while two
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  Speaker 6: fans and to US media they might appear to be
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  Speaker 6: on the hot seat, the only people that matter are
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  Speaker 6: their bosses and do they consider Mark Shapiro and Ross
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: Atkins to be on the hot seat? And they've done
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: Mark Shapiro's team president, has done some really interesting things.
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: They've fixed the ballpark, they built this beautiful spring training site.
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: Maybe they value that more than even on field performance
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: of the major league club the infrastructure going forward, I
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: don't know, but certainly in terms of the team's performance,
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: they'ven't won a playoff game since twenty sixteen, that at
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: some point has to factor in.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: And that's where they are right now.
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they did.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Did you see Brian Cashman's comments about the luxury tax?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Is that is that fair that the Yankees can say,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: you know, with the luxury tax, it's pretty tough for
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: us to go farther.
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: It's fair. That's their opinion. That's how they're treating it.
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: But if you're a Yankee fan and you're looking at this,
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: or if you're a Yankee player, and you're hearing this,
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: you might say, what are we doing? And with Cole
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: they have insurance. So from a financial perspective, they're going
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: to get some of the money back seventy five percent
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: at some point, and that you would think would create
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: some flexibility. Now, granted, cash payroll is different than the
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: luxury tax payroll. But if you're worried about the luxury tax,
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: you're worried essentially about paying more in penalty, Well, if
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: you have more cash available, you should be able.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: To handle that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: I don't know if Brian Cashman is saying this because
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: he doesn't really like the guys that are available, the
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: Gibsons and the Lens. I don't know if he's saying
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: it because he truly is in a position where ownership
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: is not letting him add. I'm not quite sure, but
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: he is right that the market out there is thin.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: I can't argue that it is thin. But at the
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: same time, the Yankees need help, and I don't know
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: why they wouldn't spend on one of the remaining starting pitchers,
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: maybe even another reliever. If that's where they are, and
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: that is where they are right now.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Why why can't actually be ready for opening day. He
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: came out and said it's not lining up. All they
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: gotta do is move them a day or two, right,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Justice bullpens to me, that's like, well, if Free can't
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: be ready, then that means Jordan can't be ready, Stroman
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: can't be ready.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Schmid can't be ready. Will Warren, if he's the other guy,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: can't be ready.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: Remember last year with Stroman, they had this with opening day.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: See why they can't move a guy one or two
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: days and make it. I mean, we still like it's tomorrow.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: It's speaks away.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: AJ. I am not sure the answer to that one.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: It's curious to me as well.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, Ken, it's a weird
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: question for me.
• 18:38
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• 18:45
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• 18:47
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• 18:49
  Speaker 2: good card. AJ. But also if you're not into the card,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: like I know you pulled a Bob Gibson card recently,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: you can get an offer of ninety percent of the
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: estimated value and just accept it on this and give
• 19:00
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• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I ain't getting rid of my Bob Gibson autographed card.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Bob Gibson ain't card signing cards anytime soon, so I'm
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: keeping this one. It gets graded for you. There's no mess.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: The only thing I wish they had bubblegum. Can they
• 19:13
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• 19:16
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• 19:19
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• 19:21
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• 19:23
  Speaker 4: This is one of the coolest things I've ever seen.
• 19:25
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• 19:28
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  Speaker 2: off your first purchase. Let's finish with this topic, Ken,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: and then you know these guys might have a follow
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: up on it. You wrote your story about movaon that
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: got a lot of attention. The other day you spoke
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: about it on Inside Dish on fair territory, So I
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: encourage people to check that out. The cool part of
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the story is his son's involvement. The part that gets
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of headlines, of course, is him admitting some
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: hghus back in the day. So what did you take
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: from that part of the conversation.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting, Scott. I'll go through it actually in
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: a way that I didn't even go through it on
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: fair territory. So I went to Moe's training center in
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: Boca Ratone, visited with him there, saw what was going on.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: And after that, I went back and started reading more
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: about mo in preparation to write the article, and I
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: forgot he was in the Mitchell Report. It's two thousand
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: and seven, the Mitchell Report, and he wasn't one of
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: the biggest names in it, and it was a kind
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: of a small section whatever. And then I realized, you
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: know what, if I don't ask him about this, that
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: would be kind of a dereliction of duty. I need
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: to ask him about this. So I asked him about
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: it within the context of the story, which was for
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: many years he was not wanting to get involved in baseball.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: The game had hurt him because of the way his
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: career ended. He had injuries, and he just felt he
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: was out of the game before he should have been,
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: due to physical reasons, not anything that any team did
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: to him. He was just angry about what happened. So
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: I asked him, hey, was the fact that you got
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: named in the Mitchell Report part of where your anger
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: came from? And he said not at all. So then
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: when I wrote the story, I included in the story
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: and read it the whole thing and the one about
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: him and his son, and we decided that if we
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: just leave it in the story, the entire world's going
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: to aggregate it, and we're going to be left without
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: our own story. Essentially, we're gonna be kind of in
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: a rough position. So I decided to write a separate story,
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: knowing full well, actually we decided, I should say, all
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: editors and me. We decided to do that, knowing full
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: well that that would get a lot of attention and
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: kind of bastardize the other story, which to some degree
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: I guess happened. But I hope that people read the
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: main story, the longer story about Mo and what he
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: went through and how he came back to the game
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: through his twelve All of your old son, and this
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: started a few years ago. It's kind of cool, and
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: it's kind of cool to see a guy who loved
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: the game his whole life, who got frustrated and angry
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: with the game, be brought back to it because of
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: his son playing and him coaching. And now he has
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: this amazing academy with two thousand active members. They got
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Mike Eesler coaching, and Oba Moreno and all these other guys,
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: and he's doing good things with kids. I just thought
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: it was really cool and that, I hope is the
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: biggest takeaway. Not that mo Vaughn admitted to what was
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: in the Metro report, which is not insignificant, don't get
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: me wrong, it's news. But the other story is what
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: this was really all about.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: This game keeps dragging you back in ken you can't
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: get once it's in your blood.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: It just you can't get away from it. It's crazy.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Everyone's like, oh, I don't watch baseball, I don't do this,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: and when they retire and then you talk to him
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: a couple of years later, like, I've started watching again
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: and now I'm back into it. So it's a weird thing.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: As you guys know, it gets in your blood. And
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: once it's in there can't get it out. So today,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: when I first when I got here a little bit ago,
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: I'm walking down the hallway and Chris Young is having
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: a press conference and him and Ken are going to
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: do would you guys do a private interview?
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: It's private private.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I wasn't allowed to listen.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: So if anybody ever wondered what the tallest guy in
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: baseball looks like and then one of the shortest guys
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: in baseball looks like standing next to each other, there's
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: what you see.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Why and Ken look like next to each.
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: Now I know AJ gets a real kick out of this,
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: and I guess I can understand that. But here's the thing.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I wasn't good at for Scott. You wanted that to
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: be here, I told you because I knew you wanted to.
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: Okay, I knew he was going to be using this
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: against me in some way at some point. So Scott,
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: what I would say is, being short is not a
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: new condition for me. It's not something that I just
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: snuck up on me. So if you want to take
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: a picture of me and Chris Young, me and Aaron Judge,
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: me and whoever be.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: My guest, also Chris Young makes almost anyone in baseball. Look, okay,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm next to you. You're a shrimp, right, and
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: he had a quarter of course joined the fraternity right,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: full GM uniform. Well, Ken, thank you for the time,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: good to see you, and good luck with aj next
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: to you. We'll talk to you soon.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: Thanks, guys.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: The Dodgers are going to start their season in Japan
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: against the Chicago Cubs. Matt Shaw is on that trip,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: by the way. For the Cubs, he is supposed to
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: be the guy for them this year at third base.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: They tried for Alex Bregman. That didn't happen, so Shaw
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: is a good prospect, but a lot of heat on
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: him to perform for a team that really needs to
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: get themselves going again into playoff contention and what's a
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: pretty down division anyway. For the Dodgers, we got news
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: that Hessan Kim, who is their new super utility dude
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: that kind of replaced Gavin Luck at least theyd in
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: that room for both of them on the roster, is
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: actually not going to be on the big league club
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: to start the season, so he's not going out to Japan.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Kim was signed in the offseason from Korea and and
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: is looked at as a super speedy player, good contact guy,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: not a star by any means. Didn't sign for this
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: monster deal. Kratz and they have the agreement that he'll
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: start the season in Oklahoma City. I feel like that's
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: interesting here and kind of shows how badly he wanted
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: to join this team. I'm sure they had a conversation
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: about this, because I imagine there were some other teams
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: that would have you not put him in that situation.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: For sure, Like I feel like the Dodgers would have
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: been upfront about this. Maybe we'll come out later that
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: they weren't upfront about it. But the way the Dodgers
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: are run communication is second to none. I bet they
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: told him this. You have to remember as soon as
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you come over here, you have options. Options are a
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: valuable piece toward an organization. And what have the Dodgers
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: done this whole offseason, more so with pitching than anything else,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: but they've built depth. Building depth doesn't just mean you
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: have the best twenty six guys you can find. It
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: means you have the best thirty two guys, thirty five guys.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: And this is another opportunity. Don't forget I said it earlier.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Roki Sasaki has options. Also, there's players with options just
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: because their elite status, just because Hay Sun Kim comes
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: over with some fanfare. Not a superstar, like Scott said,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: but a big league player, you have options. And a
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: team like this that's built to win, they have to
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: play out all one sixty two with more than twenty.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Six guys, three year, twelve and a half million dollar deal.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: There's club option later on too. But he's making big
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: league money. I mean, that's probably almost close to the
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: average money in the big League because obviously I have
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: some guys making the world and then a lot of
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: dudes making high six figures. I don't know what the
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: exact averages these days, but it's probably in the four
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: and a half range. It's good to see Justin Berlander
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: putting up good results in spring training. Obviously, he's been
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: around for a minute. He's a future Hall of Famer.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: But five innings, four strikeouts, one run yesterday and five
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: really solid innings against the A's now as a two
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: to four ora and four starts this spring. But here's
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the part that stands out for the forty two year old,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: ninety four v lo Alden Gonzalez said he spoke to
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: a scatter said delivery repeatable for full repertoire was on display. So, aj,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I know it's not a big deal, but he didn't
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: have a good twenty twenty four and you know eventually
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: wasn't on the playoff froster and just wasn't himself. So
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: you want to see this news versus him getting torched
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: in spring training.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, as much as we always say spring training doesn't
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: mean that much, it doesn't mean certain it does mean
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: more for certain things. Guy's coming off injury, especially pitchers.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: So to see him out there five innings already this
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: early in spring is a big deal. The Giants have
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: to be pumped about that. He's not gonna be a
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: guy that could reach back and get a hundred, but
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: he's got enough veteran savvy, as we like to say,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: in craftiness to spin the ball up.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: There was slider that was change it. He still got
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: a curveball. So listen, if.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: He's healthy, he can help you win games if you're
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: a Giants fan. So this is a step in the
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: right direction for Justin Berlin.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: His next starts the biggest for me. He went five.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: How does he recover. How does he recover in five days?
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Because that's what they're expecting him to do. He's not
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: just a clubhouse presence guy. He's a guy that Buster
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Posey came out and said publicly, we signed you to
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: be a good pitcher.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And for the Giants, they need a lot to go
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: right for them to be a force, for them to
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: be a playoff contender. It's a tough division. They're going
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: to need things to go their way. Is it possible
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: this team makes the playoffs. Absolutely, but you're gonna need
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Justin Verlander to shine, Willia Domis to keep crushing it
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: even though he's making the ballpark change stuff like that.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Kratz so San Francisco obviously can keep up in what's,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: you know, a pretty damn good division. Besides the Rockies.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: They're built to do one thing, prevent runs. They're gonna
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: have to score at some point, and I think they
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: can with some of the young guys that are there,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: some of the guys that took next step Iliu Ramos,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Tyler Fitzgerald, Willie Domas ad to me the prevent runs.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: You have to stay healthy because you need the elite
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: pitchers on the mound that throw all those innings, giving
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: it to the bullpen and defense always being out there
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: every day. That's what they have to do in San France.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, Leo, help us out at MGM futures talking American
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: League Central winner. Minnesota, Detroit, Kansas City, and Cleveland are
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: all very bunch together between plus two twenty and plus
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: three hundred and obviously we're not going to spend time
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: on the White Sox here. But Kratz, where do you
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: find value for me? When you're looking at the division,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: you're really just looking to see which team you legit
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: think as a chance to take this division. It's not
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: much of a value play. Everyone's in a pretty similar
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: range here. I mean you might look a little lower
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and say, hey, does Case follow through, get on base
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: a little bit more and have another strong season from
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Bobby Witt? And that turns into something, does Cleveland win
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the division again? And are they being overlooked for the
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: pitching they bring to the table. The only one I'm
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: definitely steering clear from is Minnesota based on the finish
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: they had, based on their stars being injury prone, based
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: on not doing anything, and the vibes in my mind,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: probably aren't high from picking anyone up. I know they're
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: a good team, but it's just hard for me to
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: look at the team that's favored at plus two twenty
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: and throw money down there.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the plus two twenty isn't that far off
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: from Cleveland a plus three hundred, So they're all right
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: in the same realm. And for me, what are you buying?
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Are you buying the Twins second half, the Tigers second half,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: or Cleveland's historic pitching season. So there's a lot of
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: inconsistencies there. To me, the team that wasn't inconsistent is
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: that plus two seven five in the Royals, So I
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: feel like they were the same team all year, and
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I think that's where I'm gonna push my money to AJ.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: It's almost like you played for KC. What do you
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: think we got like twenty seconds? But any value there?
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Homer much, Homer much. Sorry.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: I actually I'm not gonna lie. I didn't see the board,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: so I apologie.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: You're in Friday.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Let's just put it this way, AJ, and I know
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: we'll do predictions when we get closer to the start
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: of the season, but who do you think is winning
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the Al Central Because that's where the value is just
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: who do you think is going to win the division?
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: A team not named the White Sox.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: I'm assuming the value. I'm assuming the value is the
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Tigers of the Royals. I'm gonna go, Actually, you know
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: what I think the values in the in the Guardians
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: because I don't see them.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: The problem is I can't really see the monitors a
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: light in front of it. So but I'm gonna say
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: the Guardians. I don't know what the numbers are, but
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: I think it would be done.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the best analysis we've had all year.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: They're plus three hundred, so they are they are pegged
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: to be fourth.
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  Speaker 1: I give you that.
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  Speaker 2: called eight hunter Gambler. Here we are, we got slappands
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: still to go. I'm going to read a comment from
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: KT in the YouTube chat. The YouTube live chat is awesome.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: We love you. Got a little Harry for a little bit,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: so we had to put someone in time out. It
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: happens anyway, KT, who we met in Texas last year,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: at the All Star Game and swung by to watch
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the show. Lives a great stuff. Props of the whole
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: YouTube or ft FAM for getting these interviews with these players,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: specifically because most Rangers from today aren't super social and open.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Fave Spring episode so far. I mean, Aj, you're there
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: and it's easy for someone like you to have a
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: combo with those guys. But yeah, it's not the most
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: loud team out there. They've got some louder guys coming in.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Jake Berger's a good speaker, and Jack Peterson's pretty loud.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Whoever you can get at some point, but a lot
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: of the guys they have right now, Seeger Semion pretty quiet,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: even the starters. We spoke to Rocker Lighter obviously, you
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: know he's been around his dad, so you're naturally going
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: to talk a lot. Al was a big talker. But anyway,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: pretty quiet team and it's cool to get them to
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: open up.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: No, it's great.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: I just told Mark, our producer, that I just love
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: being here and doing these Spring trainings because it's so
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: much fun to talk to these guys live and get
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: FaceTime with these guys.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Because it's hard.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: It's it's hard to get these guys to open up
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: and so for them to come out here and do it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Burger later Kamar Bochie who we had not on until today.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, it is just awesome. Corey Seeger, thank you
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: for doing that. And just to walk into these clubhouses
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: and see the vibe, feel the vibe, feel how excited.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: These guys are. It's special, man, it's special.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Ek you got to do it for a couple of
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: days and you got to see how cool it is
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: just to come down here and walk into the camps,
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: walking into the clubhouses.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: So thank you to all the.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: PR teams, all the people behind the scenes that people
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: don't even get to see. And we still have what
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: six more of these?
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Is that right?
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I think that sounds right there to come almost.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: More to come. There's just more to come. It's awesome.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I think this is a players We want this to
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: be a players show. We're ex players, so we can
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: talk to them about things that we knew.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: But it's been a.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Long time since AJ has put on a uniform in
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the big leagues. It's been a long time since I've
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: put on a uniform in the big leagues. And for
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: these guys to give up ten minutes of their day
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to come out. I think it's awesome, but I think
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: it also hopefully, hopefully fans can connect with it because
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: there's something unique about each person that fans can connect with,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: and being there in person is one way we can
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we try to get as many players on
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: the show all year as possible. Right, We tell teams
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: when we talk to either their their pr staff or
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: to an agency. Hey, Like, we want to of course
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: get the big names they get requested all the time,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: but we also want to talk to the twenty six
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: man on the roster. Sometimes he's the most interesting conversation.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: All right, let's slap and I actually want to shout
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: someone out who we didn't get the other day. But
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping we can get him once he actually either
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: pitches in a spring game or maybe in a major
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: league game. Lance mccullors Junior hasn't pitched in a long time.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Apparently he is scheduled to pitch in a grape Fruit
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: League game next week, which would be a huge step
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: for him. Of course, you got to make sure everything
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: goes okay. It's still a road to get back to
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: a major league regular season mound the reason I bring
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: it up AJ is he was a big part of
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: that team for several years, and then I feel like
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: he gets too much hate online. I mean, there's plenty
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: of dudes that have put in so much good work
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: and then fans quickly forget once they go through injuries.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Mike Track has gone through that lately with national media.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Even Scherzier has gotten that a little bit. I'm like, dude,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: he's in his upper thirties. Give the guy a break.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: So anyway, I just wanted to point out some guys
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: that are working their way back, and mccolor's is one
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: of them.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Lance mccollors, though, doesn't hit the mute button, and I
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: think maybe some people hate on that. Like he's very upfront,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: he's very in you know, he's just he's not afraid
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: to say what he thinks. And when guys like that
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: get hurt, the haters are all, oh, well, maybe if
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: you just kept your mouth shut, or if you wouldn't
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: have thrown so many sliders, it wouldn't have hurt your arm.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Like see, we told you. Like you put yourself out
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: there and you say things, there's times, you know, people
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: might try to throw that back against you. But to me,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I think he's one of the guys that was at
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the point where he was helping change the face of
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: baseball in the sense of like not being afraid to
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: be out front and not just being this like you know,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: mute mouth. He was okay saying what he thought on
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the best team for the last seven years.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Yep, let's do krats hats and see if AJ's back
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: while you're doing it, AJ, you can criticize.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I like that. That's nice.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: It looks good. The baby blues for the Rangers. It
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: f its. I like that hat.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: It looks good, looks good in person. It's it's It's
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: not as good as the Diamondbacks hat was yesterday.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: They're similarish colors.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Though, But I just like the logo of the Diamondbacks
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: with the snake a little bit better. But I'm a
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: I'm a baby blue fan. Listen, when you have these
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: baby blues, you're a baby blue fan.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: We even got the graphic baby Blue for you, AJ,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: to match the baby Blues. See the graphic.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Nice love Yeah.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Great. All right, So that's it for us today. AJ.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: We will see you tonight at the Clutchhouse event. Talking
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: to many other players with a Lona Rizzo, but also
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: in our last minute here, would you like to give
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: us your thoughts on what it's going to be like
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: to step foot at on White Sox camp at camel
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Back Ranch. It's gonna be fun, man.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: I did it Monday. I already did the grand tour
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: on Monday. No one was there, so I kind of
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: snuck in the back door and walked around and saw everybody.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow's gonna be interesting and we're gonna have Ken there
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: too with us tomorrow.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I keep asking why we're going there, and Mark said
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: because of me. But you know, it'll be fun. It'll
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: be fun to see a lot of people. It'll be
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: nice to see the guys again. There are still some
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: people there. But we'll see how it goes. We'll see
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: who we get it. It'll come on and talk to me,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: hopefully gets Hopefully we'll ventable, you know, hopefully a bunch
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: of the players like we've been getting. So if there's
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: a tear, you know, you'll know why.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to Laya Menez, Garrett Crochet, Yamata.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I didn't
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: say that. I didn't say that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: They're just gonna walk around like, look at this picture
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: of me Mark. I hope Michael Beer goes to this
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: is Michael take a picture of me with me in
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: this picture of me over here? That oh that picture? Yes, well,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I remember that game.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: We'll see if the statue is in place for aj
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: by tomorrow. I know they're working hard on it.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: See if I can get into the parking lot. Let's
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: just if I get into the parking lot.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, I hope you have to park in Media parking.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I hope they don't.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Not tomorrow, I will not. I have everywhere else. Tomorrow,
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: I will not have to park in Media parking.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: You're not everywhere else, Orioles Camp. You strolled right into
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: the players lot. I saw Adam Ruschman had a park
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: outside on the street.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: He strolls in with his car, right into the clubhouse.