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- 0:00[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Windy City podcast, presented by a fan cited that is Alex Shapiro with Sirens in his background and I am Kenneth Davis with the one the only Mr. Jackie Robinson and my background.
- 0:12[SPEAKER_00]: We got bears to talk about because that's what we do when we come here on the Windy City podcast.
- 0:16[SPEAKER_00]: We discuss bears, we discuss NFL and depending on what Alex's actually point takes us, who knows what we're going to talk about.
- 0:22[SPEAKER_00]: But one, we want to talk about some of the moves that have taken place as far as bears players becoming ex-bears players.
- 0:31[SPEAKER_00]: One, thanks to all of them as people that talk bears, support the bears, have affinity for the bears.
- 0:38[SPEAKER_00]: Alex, you've been in the locker room plenty of plenty of time just talking about how cool some of the guys are.
- 0:45[SPEAKER_00]: And you want to say, hey, more fortune, more wealth and health to you as you move on.
- 0:50[SPEAKER_00]: And again, thanks for our get bring in us of terrific season, especially this was.
- 0:55[SPEAKER_00]: Alex and I have never had a winning season as the guy covering the bears and this was not just a winning season.
- 1:01[SPEAKER_00]: This was a special season and it's so split.
- 1:04[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even think we really got it all just yet to agree.
- 1:08[SPEAKER_00]: I guess this is underpin on how next year goes.
- 1:09[SPEAKER_00]: How we feel about this year.
- 1:11[SPEAKER_00]: Like maybe in a bad way we know if next year's sweet ass sweet or sweeter, we may not appreciate as much this year, but if next year is mid, we're gonna be like, man, that's when it's 25 season.
- 1:26[SPEAKER_00]: But listen, some bears players, and I've just mentioned as the open, have left.
- 1:30[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll get more in depth in it.
- 1:32[SPEAKER_00]: But let's start off with the DBs and basically the safetys.
- 1:36[SPEAKER_00]: CJ Garda Johnson is now a bill.
- 1:40[SPEAKER_00]: You have Chauhan Brisker is back where he played college in the Pennsylvania.
- 1:46[SPEAKER_00]: He is now a stealer for $5.5 million.
- 1:50[SPEAKER_00]: All pro third all pro team Kevin Byrd has become a Patriot, which I'm sure he can definitely help that team.
- 1:57[SPEAKER_00]: But I believe he got nine million dollars.
- 1:59[SPEAKER_00]: Now for me, Alex and I are the last episode, kind of talked about maybe one of those guys that come back.
- 2:05[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not reading the T-Leaves as far as signing out of Kobe Bryant mid.
- 2:09[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody's coming back as far as getting the starters.
- 2:13[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to say something that Alex and I, if you watched the one in your city podcast,
- 2:19[SPEAKER_00]: Think you may have been week 14, 15, or 16 somewhere in between that range.
- 2:24[SPEAKER_00]: There's a time period where we talked about in the near future, which is now, we're gonna have to talk about the bears letting go of players who in coverage can't necessarily keep up with the offensive players, right?
- 2:39[SPEAKER_00]: And the player, two players to Stuktama, was we all knew CJ Gardner Johnson was really much more of a box guy,
- 2:47[SPEAKER_00]: then necessarily a full-long covers guy not to say that he can't get turnovers in coverage, but that part of his game has kind of diminished over this career, and even though Kevin buyer is phenomenal with just his IQ and still fast, there were times, and we said at the lesson, so where he guys got separation from him in coverage, right?
- 3:08[SPEAKER_00]: I said, guys, he can keep it with guys going through his own, right?
- 3:13[SPEAKER_00]: And the those guys stick out because when you're building the team staying at the same way that you are isn't necessarily progress actually it can be regression.
- 3:24[SPEAKER_00]: And with me, and it would depend on what they do matching Kobe Bryant, who's going to play alongside him.
- 3:30[SPEAKER_00]: Will it be a rookie?
- 3:33[SPEAKER_00]: One thing I've been saying is, we have to give Ryan polls his props because it seems like he can draft TVs, right?
- 3:40[SPEAKER_00]: Like that doesn't mean there are world leaders, but they're usually kind of good, or they flash and have their moments.
- 3:47[SPEAKER_00]: We still haven't seen what's the kid from Minnesota?
- 3:51[SPEAKER_00]: Was it Tillman?
- 3:51[SPEAKER_02]: What's the kid that...
- 3:54[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you to Russ Miff.
- 3:55[SPEAKER_00]: We still haven't seen what Torel Smith can do to injury last year and not beat and now Torek Stevenson.
- 4:01[SPEAKER_02]: We know that.
- 4:03[SPEAKER_02]: We know that.
- 4:04[SPEAKER_00]: We know that.
- 4:04[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 4:05[SPEAKER_00]: We know that all at all.
- 4:07[SPEAKER_00]: So we have to see what you have there.
- 4:09[SPEAKER_00]: Torek Stevenson, we know he can get beat.
- 4:11[SPEAKER_00]: We also know he's a phenomenal athlete.
- 4:14[SPEAKER_00]: And Jalen Johnson, we know, can be a back top tier corner back when healthy and the same for Kyle Gordon planned nickel.
- 4:22[SPEAKER_00]: But getting back to the safety part and how I feel about the safety part, I kind of like what they're doing.
- 4:27[SPEAKER_00]: You know, to be honest with you.
- 4:29[SPEAKER_00]: If we really last year, and I opened that with Sandhouse special last year was, but you can't let that lead you into holding on to it for this aspect.
- 4:38[SPEAKER_00]: Juan Brisker, that was the first time he was healthy in three years, basically.
- 4:42[SPEAKER_00]: right and he had to be healthy and I'm happy that he played healthy and he got money.
- 4:47[SPEAKER_00]: I wish he can get more because you look at what Kyle and Gordon got, both of those players being Gordon the first, Joaquin Briss could be in the second that Ryan Poles drafted.
- 4:55[SPEAKER_00]: It's his 10 years, again, as the Bears General Manager in the second round, being surprised that Gordon would even fall down into the second round.
- 5:03[SPEAKER_00]: We remember him talking about it on their draft boards how
- 5:05[SPEAKER_00]: It's show that it would happen and then it actually happened, but Brisker has been hurt a lot over the last three seasons and an all fairness and I made a joke.
- 5:14[SPEAKER_00]: I've joked about, you know, Kevin Barrett for four last season being like, yeah, I kind of want to be part of the change because I was like, yeah, because you want to get paid.
- 5:22[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin buyer flashed last year, but he was decent the prior two seasons, you know, it wasn't like last year was a year again in a contract year, he flashed, but he's old and I mean, he's younger than me, but in the means of playing safety, he's old.
- 5:40[SPEAKER_00]: So moving off of both of them, because it kind of hoping that they both have the same year can set you up in a situation where one, if not both can be heard.
- 5:49[SPEAKER_00]: Briscar right now, you have to still look at it as he has the
- 5:52[SPEAKER_00]: We kind of cover up how bad it was that he had to relearn some things when he got hurt, right?
- 6:00[SPEAKER_00]: And by or again, played phenomenally, but I don't know if locking them in would have been the best thing at this point in the direction that the bears are going.
- 6:09[SPEAKER_00]: It's still a way to see a approach.
- 6:11[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying that Rampos, you're great for doing this.
- 6:15[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying that it was something that we talked about Alex and myself.
- 6:18[SPEAKER_00]: at towards the end of last year that there may need to be some changes in the second area and in the lineback of core we did talk about perhaps terrain that means needs to depart from this team because the fit wasn't the it wasn't sabbatical with him and didn't as Alice's game um but that's just kind of how I want to start off and what was crossing my mind at the Alex yeah you know i think just to underline what you're talking about what jacquan brisker and Kevin
- 6:47[SPEAKER_02]: great players at times and great people also so I think you know it's nothing but hey thank you thank you for your time as a Chicago bear you represented the team well on the field when the guys were on the field jacquam brisker when he was right when he was 100% jacquam brisker was a maniac i mean that guy was all over the field
- 7:14[SPEAKER_02]: rack and up tackles.
- 7:15[SPEAKER_02]: There was that one game.
- 7:16[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like he had damn near 20 tackles who have something like 17 18 tackles, something ridiculous.
- 7:22[SPEAKER_02]: He could be a playmaker.
- 7:24[SPEAKER_02]: He was a spark balloon.
- 7:27[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that guy was part of the pulse of of that defense, you know, with his little no fly zone.
- 7:36[SPEAKER_02]: The arrows and that dude churped a lot, you know, like,
- 7:40[SPEAKER_02]: He had leadership qualities exactly he was he was a loud voice that got people fired up in practice You know, but as you mentioned the concussion stuff the injury stuff It was time to move on uh same with Kevin buyer He played really well for this team when they needed a replacement for Eddie Jackson But this is a team that is trying to
- 8:10[SPEAKER_02]: create a bigger window, right?
- 8:12[SPEAKER_02]: And if the bears had gone deeper in the postseason last year, I'm sure you still would have been a big part of that deep postseason run.
- 8:20[SPEAKER_02]: But as this team tries to extend the window alongside Caleb Williams and the young offense, you want to get younger on defense.
- 8:30[SPEAKER_02]: And part of that is adding a player like Kobe Bryant.
- 8:34[SPEAKER_02]: Now, Ryan Polls, I was reading some of the transcripts quickly of the press conference.
- 8:41[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of wanted to keep Kevin buyer to round, but maybe not at the price, the Patriots gave him.
- 8:46[SPEAKER_02]: And that has always been Ryan Polls, Emma.
- 8:49[SPEAKER_02]: Guy is really disciplined in free agency, right?
- 8:52[SPEAKER_02]: He is laser focused on how is this player going to help us in the short term and how does this affect us in the long term.
- 9:01[SPEAKER_02]: So you got to imagine they were thinking a one-year deal for Kevin buyer.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_02]: And obviously it did not seem like they were comfortable.
- 9:08[SPEAKER_02]: bringing in back for the 9 million bucks at the Patriots offered them because they are still up against the cap after all the moves the bears made according to over the cap.
- 9:19[SPEAKER_02]: They've got around 7 million bucks to work with.
- 9:23[SPEAKER_02]: So obviously Kobe Bryant got a big portion of that, but I imagine the bears are thinking, hey, we're going to shell out a high average annual value
- 9:38[SPEAKER_02]: fits more of our window.
- 9:41[SPEAKER_02]: So you understand what they did.
- 9:42[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not a knock on Kevin Pirates.
- 9:44[SPEAKER_02]: It's a timing thing, really.
- 9:46[SPEAKER_02]: You know, so both of those guys great and then CJ Gardner Johnson also, that guy was exactly what the bears needed when they signed.
- 9:56[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they were looking for a little shot me on, a little boost, a catalyst, a
- 10:03[SPEAKER_02]: the, the past rush was ailing and D.A.
- 10:08[SPEAKER_02]: says, well, I know how to use this guy from our time working together.
- 10:11[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to blitz a lot with him and we're going to use him near the line of scrimmage and for a good chunk of time, it worked and it worked really, really well.
- 10:21[SPEAKER_02]: And then the book was kind of out that it was like, hey, you know, the CJ Gardner Johnson is
- 10:26[SPEAKER_02]: Potentially coming on the blitz that you got to be alert alert with this guy in the field and it became less effective as the season one on, and then he was exposed more and more in the past coverage as the year one on.
- 10:38[SPEAKER_02]: But now looking forward, hey, Kyler Gordon is healthy again, I think the bears are hoping because it already sent me Kyler Gordon.
- 10:47[SPEAKER_02]: that Kyler Gordon will be healthy moving forward.
- 10:49[SPEAKER_02]: And if Kyler Gordon is healthy, Kyler Gordon is the no doubt starting nickel on this team.
- 10:54[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like what are you doing with CJ Granger Johnson?
- 10:56[SPEAKER_02]: Are you bringing him in to be in break glass in case of emergency type guy again?
- 11:02[SPEAKER_02]: Are you going to move him to safety?
- 11:04[SPEAKER_02]: Instead, they let him walk.
- 11:06[SPEAKER_02]: And they bring back Elijah Hicks, who they know, hey, Elijah Hicks, when pressed into duty, as you said, we trust this guy.
- 11:16[SPEAKER_02]: Elijah Hex has been the third safety for several years now has performed well has been serviceable when called upon and has also been a key contributor on special teams.
- 11:28[SPEAKER_02]: So do the bears still need to add safety's?
- 11:31[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, probably because right now they've got Kobe Bryant got Elijah Hex.
- 11:38[SPEAKER_02]: But corner back, corner back, maybe they do feel good with
- 11:45[SPEAKER_02]: safe for Asia.
- 11:46[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they cry Lord Gordon, Josh Blackwell, you know, they'll probably again add to that group, but maybe not in a significant way.
- 11:54[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you.
- 11:55[SPEAKER_02]: If they add a safety, it'll probably be a rookie or maybe another, maybe they'll bring Jonathan Owens back, you know, Jonathan Owens, another known commodity guy who has been a serviceable when called upon.
- 12:07[SPEAKER_02]: So, is it like super flashy and would have fans of love to see Kevin Byrd and Jacqueline Brisco return?
- 12:13[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure a lot
- 12:16[SPEAKER_02]: But to me, this is just the Ryan polls.
- 12:19[SPEAKER_02]: It's just textbook Ryan polls of keeping that long-term view.
- 12:23[SPEAKER_02]: A big time focus, even though the bears are in win now mode, it is still that focus on, hey, let's do everything we can to make sure our window is lining up with Caleb.
- 12:38[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you're about to play Darnell, right, right?
- 12:42[SPEAKER_02]: You're about to pay Rumbadoon's A, you're about to pay Caleb.
- 12:45[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that at least, but those are at least two years away.
- 12:50[SPEAKER_00]: So there, that's after their second season.
- 12:52[SPEAKER_00]: But Darnell is about to be up against him.
- 12:55[SPEAKER_00]: He's coming.
- 12:56[SPEAKER_00]: So you know that you have that.
- 12:58[SPEAKER_00]: And then like, okay, well, let me before I continue with the wrong thing.
- 13:04[SPEAKER_00]: What's Rome's kind of going to look like if he doesn't really assume that the role that we expect for him as soon?
- 13:12[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't you say for one, if he doesn't turn into a slam dunk, why don't you say for one?
- 13:16[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
- 13:16[SPEAKER_00]: So are you just going to pay him and let are you going to give him Alec Pierce money?
- 13:21[SPEAKER_00]: And then he and I'll be right now right now he's he's actually I know and Alec Chris can take the top off, but as far as well round it receiver, Rome is a better will round it receiver.
- 13:32[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do things between the numbers that Alec Pierce use is just to go, go, go, Papagot, right?
- 13:39[SPEAKER_00]: Even when it's contested, it catches he's not that great with that.
- 13:43[SPEAKER_00]: But still, if Rome isn't him, where's the soft spot between we drafted you, but you're good, but you're not great, and but this is what the NFL does.
- 13:54[SPEAKER_00]: It's your turn and are you going to do that with Rome?
- 13:56[SPEAKER_00]: Again, that's the subject for another day.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking, um, light heartedly that there are other former saints to bring in throughout the year.
- 14:07[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about Cam Jordan.
- 14:09[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about Cam Jordan.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_00]: Also, the Commanders release Marshan Latamore.
- 14:13[SPEAKER_00]: If you like O St. D. B.
- 14:15[SPEAKER_00]: And again, he made to catch on somewhere.
- 14:17[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is, these guys make catch on somewhere and get cut.
- 14:20[SPEAKER_00]: And we manned up.
- 14:20[SPEAKER_00]: Halfway through the season then coming to join their old difference of coordinator to slash head coach and Dennis Allen and hey You guys know what I like go out there and show these guys.
- 14:30[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I like base let one thing We can't also say about CJ Garda Johnson is yes He had limitations, but also he had some dog in them
- 14:38[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
- 14:39[SPEAKER_00]: They needed this.
- 14:41[SPEAKER_02]: He was a big time catalyst in the Middle East season when they needed it.
- 14:44[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
- 14:45[SPEAKER_00]: And that's so again, there are going to be opportunities and the cap can always be finagle.
- 14:51[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
- 14:52[SPEAKER_00]: How many years have we been saying that the repris come for the Saints cap and they've just kicked the...
- 14:58[SPEAKER_00]: Since Drew Breeze was playing and I'll be like his last year.
- 15:01[SPEAKER_00]: I mean like a decade damn near to that last season where the care was getting kick kick kick the saints are just now really free of the kind of hunder reckoning they kind of have the reckoning yeah they're just now like all right let's pay the reaper right like they've been doing this for so long and they're not even a wealthy franchise like that um so you know they're again we'll see we'll see
- 15:27[SPEAKER_00]: The bears have their eye on any, um, I don't want to be disrespectful.
- 15:34[SPEAKER_00]: Day five three agents.
- 15:36[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know this is absolutely totally.
- 15:40[SPEAKER_02]: So as I said earlier, uh, $7 million left to go according to over the cap.
- 15:45[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think they're getting Joey Bosa.
- 15:49[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's on the menu.
- 15:52[SPEAKER_00]: Would you want Joey Bosa?
- 15:54[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
- 15:55[SPEAKER_02]: Of course.
- 15:55[SPEAKER_02]: Like if money was not in objects, if the bears had the cap space, Joey Bosa, Joey Bosa, Cam Jordan.
- 16:07[SPEAKER_02]: Cam Jordan because of the durability.
- 16:11[SPEAKER_02]: That's because of the.
- 16:12[SPEAKER_00]: You can stop.
- 16:12[SPEAKER_00]: You can stop.
- 16:13[SPEAKER_00]: You can stop here.
- 16:14[SPEAKER_00]: Because yes, that's, I mean, because even a, okay, one, Cam Jordan doesn't get hurt.
- 16:19[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
- 16:20[SPEAKER_00]: So even as a old man, I know the joy boasting is now, we're talking about at their peak.
- 16:25[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to go Joey Bosa and we were talking about Joey Bosa before injury is Joey Bosa, but Joey Bosa, yeah, Joey Bosa sense.
- 16:34[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, let's think about it.
- 16:36[SPEAKER_00]: The charges held on the Khalil Mac.
- 16:39[SPEAKER_00]: All right, like it was like, you know what, I think we can get more out of you than this guy that has been the face of this organization.
- 16:45[SPEAKER_00]: So I just want to ask you that Alex, because I'm with you.
- 16:47[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm Cam Jordan for everything you was about to say totally.
- 16:52[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I don't think they're going to sign a marquee marquee dude, but there are a lot of names that the bears could potentially fit into their budget.
- 17:00[SPEAKER_02]: Let me just rattle off a bunch.
- 17:01[SPEAKER_02]: These are all on the defensive line.
- 17:03[SPEAKER_02]: These are all on the defensive line because that's where we are focused.
- 17:07[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, I do think the bears could continue to add.
- 17:11[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, these aren't going to be guys that people get crazy excited about.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_02]: But they're going to be important additions to the roster because, you know, there's a lot of roster spots to fill up and obviously there's a lot of competition to happen and there's a lot of snaps that need to be taken right, you know defensive tackles aren't playing 90% of the snaps.
- 17:30[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about it all the time about the waves like you need the guys to come in for that third series of the game to give your top dudes a little breather to play a little bit in the third quarter so that your top guys are fresh in the fourth quarter so these guys are important even though they are not huge huge names like Joe trian show you in the last year right that guy was an important piece of that team.
- 17:57[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, even though he wasn't a huge huge name.
- 17:59[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm a rattle some off.
- 18:01[SPEAKER_02]: Cam Jordan.
- 18:02[SPEAKER_02]: How about Joey Bosa's former teammate, AJ Epanesa, Dante Fowler, Clellan Ferrell, G-Hodward, your guy that you've always wanted to is still available.
- 18:12[SPEAKER_02]: Colleas Campbell, Sebastian Joseph Day, and how about another Dennis Allen connection, David, on your model?
- 18:20[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, there's, there's like, I don't know what the Colleas Campbell is saying.
- 18:23[SPEAKER_00]: It can't let Campbell anymore.
- 18:24[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to put that on.
- 18:25[SPEAKER_02]: No, you're out.
- 18:26[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, now I'm out I'm out on clay as Campbell now.
- 18:29[SPEAKER_00]: I'm out as time by the time is it's done enough to with this was two years ago.
- 18:34[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I just want to go for the record.
- 18:37[SPEAKER_00]: I am out on clay as Campbell at this moment.
- 18:38[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, but my point is there are a lot of guys out there and some of these dudes are going to earn more money.
- 18:47[SPEAKER_02]: Some of these dudes are going to earn last money, but I
- 18:50[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, handful, a cloud of these players could still be within the bear's budget to bring in, and then if you look at safety, if that list is even longer, I'm name in a waste my time rambling off names, that list is a lot longer of guys who the bears can still bring in in a budget to help out, so I do not believe the bears are done.
- 19:13[SPEAKER_02]: I believe the bear, like there are still going to be signings coming in.
- 19:16[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you got to think about special teams too, right?
- 19:18[SPEAKER_02]: Like,
- 19:19[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of these guys that are going to be signed are going to be your second or third string dudes, but they're going to play an important piece on teams because the bears have guys they need to replace on teams who are now gone.
- 19:34[SPEAKER_02]: So I do not think the bears are done, but I would wager that Kobe Bryant is going to be the top ticket I know in triage and see this here.
- 19:45[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking to see if there's any one who stands out to me.
- 19:51[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the thing is one thing is so good about the bears right now.
- 19:54[SPEAKER_00]: At least they got guards.
- 19:55[SPEAKER_00]: And I know people like guards, man, we ain't had guards in so long.
- 19:58[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know how long we've been eating guards.
- 20:00[SPEAKER_00]: And we've been looking for tackles and can worry about the guards.
- 20:03[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, man, we don't have to.
- 20:05[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to worry about right tackle, guard, guard, and I guess center.
- 20:15[SPEAKER_02]: You can decide whether to worry about it or not, but that is that is written in the house man, the top of the debt chart there.
- 20:23[SPEAKER_00]: There's a guy there's a guy right now looking at the safeties, I'm trying to see does anybody stick out to me.
- 20:31[SPEAKER_00]: And we're still listening is out there.
- 20:33[SPEAKER_02]: But I just do it another former first round.
- 20:36[SPEAKER_02]: All atoms.
- 20:38[SPEAKER_00]: no.
- 20:39[SPEAKER_02]: To be clear, I'm not interested in Jamal Adams, but.
- 20:41[SPEAKER_00]: No, not in this NFL.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, the thing is Jamal Adams missed the boat.
- 20:48[SPEAKER_00]: If he would have come out in the 80s or 90s, oh, man, it would have been great.
- 20:53[SPEAKER_02]: He gives you a little bit of that jacquan brisker flavor though.
- 20:55[SPEAKER_02]: But not the recovery that I'm actually a linebacker.
- 20:58[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but your brusker is better in coverage than Jamal Adams is Jamal after the part of you said he's in linebacker is prominent in the part where it's like man like after that trade to Seattle, it was kind of like you know they traded him because the fit in this league isn't necessarily the same, but no, you cannot
- 21:19[SPEAKER_00]: I need a guy that can play both ways.
- 21:21[SPEAKER_00]: What's his old saying from about eight years ago, 10 years ago, get you someone who can do both?
- 21:26[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I need a safety that can play in the box, but also play at the back, you know what I'm saying?
- 21:32[SPEAKER_00]: This is a guy that's could be a single high.
- 21:34[SPEAKER_00]: It need to be, I need that guy in my life, you know what I'm saying?
- 21:37[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I really, definitely you, it's cool if they have strengths.
- 21:42[SPEAKER_00]: What you want to safety is to be interchangeable.
- 21:44[SPEAKER_00]: you know like that's really the thing like that's also been the problem sometimes in the past where you have one type of guy and then another type of guy when kind of particularly in a past happy league you definitely need two guys but now the run is prominent and no safety is also need to be stout enough if they have to be prominent when stopping the run also so it's a catch 22.
- 22:07[SPEAKER_02]: Should we go back to Tennessee?
- 22:09[SPEAKER_02]: Can I interest you in Xavier once?
- 22:10[SPEAKER_02]: I know I just said I
- 22:15[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think the thing with this is the thing with is this you could because clearly how much money can he get if Brister and where he was ranked at just got five and a half.
- 22:28[SPEAKER_00]: Right now you got to go grab the cash.
- 22:33[SPEAKER_02]: We're players who could fit into this bear's budget.
- 22:37[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, do you got to go grab the cash that's left?
- 22:40[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 22:40[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's only so much money that's left available.
- 22:44[SPEAKER_00]: You just talked about a little bit of cash that the bears have that the bears aren't the only team that now, the cap resources and the bears weren't a team.
- 22:51[SPEAKER_00]: And we know they clear it cap space.
- 22:54[SPEAKER_00]: But they weren't even a team.
- 22:56[SPEAKER_00]: They had like what the chargers had, what a raiders.
- 23:00[SPEAKER_00]: Now, they were that team two years ago, a year ago, where we keep talking about the powder being dry, but the the powder's moist.
- 23:09[SPEAKER_00]: The gun isn't shooting.
- 23:11[SPEAKER_02]: It's been spent.
- 23:12[SPEAKER_02]: The barrels looking low.
- 23:14[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
- 23:15[SPEAKER_00]: So, um,
- 23:16[SPEAKER_00]: you know, it is, it is what it is.
- 23:18[SPEAKER_00]: I'm interested.
- 23:18[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, I would like, honestly, if they would get a versatile veteran that they're interested in, still bring in the rookie, because you don't want to force and say one give the rookie that job, you want him to earn it, but you also because where this team is that think about where they were at when they had, um,
- 23:46[SPEAKER_00]: So that's different where, hey, you guys are going to play compared to Dom, we're a team that has Super Bowl aspirations.
- 23:53[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 23:54[SPEAKER_00]: Like, so just giving the, the Braxton Jones effective here take the job is probably not the best thing.
- 24:00[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I know, I'm not saying that that won't happen.
- 24:02[SPEAKER_00]: Doing this iteration of the bears because sometimes how you could draft it in the first or second, we are expecting you to play, right?
- 24:08[SPEAKER_00]: But still, you need to make sure that there's a proper hierarchy.
- 24:12[SPEAKER_00]: So these kids kind of earn what they're getting.
- 24:14[SPEAKER_00]: Or you just have to have the right type of player coming in that even if they're given a job, they understand the seriousness of taking on that position and what they need to do to maintain it move forward.
- 24:23[SPEAKER_02]: You want the Kobe Bryant story to be honest, right?
- 24:25[SPEAKER_02]: Kobe Bryant who comes in had played outside corner.
- 24:28[SPEAKER_02]: And then, see, Oxford, like, yeah, I guess what you're a nickel now and you're our backup.
- 24:33[SPEAKER_02]: But then one, he got the opportunity when he was the next man up.
- 24:37[SPEAKER_02]: He made the most of it, and he didn't give it up.
- 24:39[SPEAKER_02]: And then when they said, guess what?
- 24:41[SPEAKER_02]: You're a safety now.
- 24:43[SPEAKER_02]: same thing when his when his name was called and his number was called he made the most of it Super Bowl champion that's I think what that's the scenario you're trying to set up yeah definitely I mean and you can't do it all the time at all at once but as you're transitioning to a Super Bowl team you want them to still stay young
- 25:01[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, that's a, you, you, you want to be Kansas City early and then be Kansas City midway where Kansas City had to let play, they had, remember people thought it was over when they let, they traded Thai receivers, I mean, try to try to re go.
- 25:18[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's how we kill.
- 25:19[SPEAKER_00]: Remember, it was a wrap.
- 25:20[SPEAKER_00]: They won't win.
- 25:21[SPEAKER_00]: Two or three more Super Bowl's after that.
- 25:23[SPEAKER_00]: Like two more.
- 25:23[SPEAKER_00]: At least after that, went to three.
- 25:26[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you have to be able to, think about the players that they've moved on from.
- 25:33[SPEAKER_00]: You have to stick once you find the quarterback, you get the defensive stalwart.
- 25:36[SPEAKER_00]: The bears don't even have the defensive stalwart.
- 25:39[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe he's on the roster.
- 25:41[SPEAKER_02]: They they identified their Christians are like Christians are great.
- 25:44[SPEAKER_00]: You are our ground and then they draft it you looked up.
- 25:47[SPEAKER_00]: Look there now He turned the players during that last interrition those young players now are in the pace Yeah, I was just about to say now those guys are up and all this all the DBs had to go Because there is time for those guys to keep paid and they can't afford them and that's unfortunately That's what you want to be and this is the year for that because
- 26:07[SPEAKER_00]: Your quarterback got hurt last year.
- 26:09[SPEAKER_00]: The expectations are lower this year.
- 26:11[SPEAKER_00]: I've said this and you know I'm a patching my homes man.
- 26:15[SPEAKER_00]: They need two years off the radar last year this year.
- 26:18[SPEAKER_00]: So they can get cheap and I mean high draft will players at positions of need like offensive line.
- 26:26[SPEAKER_00]: And probably some point defensive line to replace Chris Jones as he gets older in this league, but you you have to do that at some point when you've been at the back of the draft, the year after year because you've been winning as well as what Kansas City has been, how Kansas City has been winning?
- 26:39[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they haven't drafted super well.
- 26:41[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, you know, the Clyde Edwards a layer.
- 26:43[SPEAKER_02]: They want that one back, although that year 32 is tough.
- 26:47[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no, I mean, you're exactly right, you know, to bring more names to my like,
- 26:53[SPEAKER_02]: is another guy, they have like a trend with Duffy, as they say, they're, they churn and turn over, but as long as they have Patrick Mahomes.
- 27:03[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 27:04[SPEAKER_02]: And as long as they have Travis kills, he exactly is.
- 27:08[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and Andy Reed, I like that, like they're going to be all right.
- 27:13[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
- 27:13[SPEAKER_00]: And now they got Eric being in me back.
- 27:15[SPEAKER_02]: And now they got Eric being in me back.
- 27:17[SPEAKER_00]: So but that's what she that's what you want this bears if Caleb one can ascend to a level similar to patch but home not to that level that's asking a lot right where where exactly as as they say goodbye to these players right
- 27:32[SPEAKER_00]: they're replenishing with the young guys who are at one point Kobe Bryant has to go because if he plays if he outplays this contract you're like you know what I'm not spending that much on safety.
- 27:44[SPEAKER_00]: I gave you X. I'm not giving you X in a little bit more you know what I'm saying like at one point you're gonna listen jaylin
- 27:52[SPEAKER_00]: At one point, you're going to look at Jalen Johnson.
- 27:54[SPEAKER_00]: If Jalen Johnson plays, gets back to where he was proud of signing that contract.
- 28:00[SPEAKER_00]: There may be a time where you're like, you know what, Jalen, we can get a younger player to almost do what you do.
- 28:06[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the truth.
- 28:09[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
- 28:09[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, good.
- 28:10[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, already did it with DJ Moore, right?
- 28:13[SPEAKER_02]: DJ Moore, great player.
- 28:15[SPEAKER_02]: Was a phenomenal bear on and off the field.
- 28:18[SPEAKER_02]: He was everything that they wanted and needed from him.
- 28:23[SPEAKER_02]: But hey, we got Rome.
- 28:26[SPEAKER_02]: We have Luther Burton.
- 28:27[SPEAKER_02]: We have Colson Loveland.
- 28:29[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, sorry, man.
- 28:30[SPEAKER_02]: We were sending you to Buffalo and we're gonna roll with the young guys.
- 28:34[SPEAKER_02]: So it is kind of encouraging that they've already reached that point in a very important position group which are the past catchers, right?
- 28:41[SPEAKER_02]: That is a super premium position, especially in 2026, more than ever.
- 28:46[SPEAKER_02]: So we've seen the bears reach kind of this stage of rebuilds over.
- 28:52[SPEAKER_02]: Are we ready to say that kind of Davis?
- 28:54[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the rebuild is over.
- 28:56[SPEAKER_02]: The rebuild is over.
- 28:57[SPEAKER_00]: The rebuild was over at the beginning, what the after the moves they made last year.
- 29:02[SPEAKER_00]: And then the thing, well, think about this, too, about this bears year.
- 29:05[SPEAKER_00]: The first couple of games, how would felt like, oh, here we go again, this isn't going to work.
- 29:11[SPEAKER_00]: They suck.
- 29:12[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't get the right coach.
- 29:13[SPEAKER_00]: This quarterback is trash put in Beijing.
- 29:16[SPEAKER_00]: And all you had to do is we patient.
- 29:19[SPEAKER_00]: And they turned it into one of the better years and to your point that some solidify that the rebuild is moving at that point in this point in a proper direction, the moves you make this offseason work and also your team got injured.
- 29:35[SPEAKER_00]: Like the thing is to remember too, outside of all the offense, the bears were really dinged up defensively from the backside.
- 29:42[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, the bears were really, like you think about how banged up they were and what they were able to think about the amount of turnovers they got with backup players outside of Kevin Bayer basically.
- 29:55[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
- 29:56[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
- 29:57[SPEAKER_00]: Right like just think about just just think about that.
- 30:01[SPEAKER_00]: So again, it's to your point that the rebuild is is definitely over this team now, but look, one thing we haven't talked about the division, um, the lines are going to try to retool and the real reason I'm bringing it up.
- 30:13[SPEAKER_00]: We got to see what happens with, um, the pack what they're going to do.
- 30:16[SPEAKER_00]: They ran it back with their coaching general manager seems like Matt LaFloor may have been out the door.
- 30:21[SPEAKER_00]: They common sense came to Green Bay since they liked to blame.
- 30:24[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying I'm at the fullest perfect, but if around to find out, if you know, how long you can make toil around in the coaching deserts, all right, you sat there and now you have Kyla Murray going to the Minnesota Vikings.
- 30:39[SPEAKER_00]: which a competent quarterback, but also super freaky when it comes to what he can do with his wheels and how he can move around.
- 30:47[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a team that's really susceptible to talk about this bear's defense to mobile quarterbacks.
- 30:52[SPEAKER_00]: See Malik Willis sees new punty, right?
- 30:56[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is like, and I'm not, and those guys aren't notice.
- 31:00[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 31:01[SPEAKER_02]: And what the bear's can't have happened is JJ McCarthy's the star.
- 31:04[SPEAKER_02]: It's starting, and then Tyler comes in.
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- 31:36[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, just looking at the division and how the division isn't getting weaker, you know, I'm saying, and think about it.
- 31:41[SPEAKER_00]: The Vikings were basically a quarterback away from being really, really good seeing true.
- 31:47[SPEAKER_02]: The Vikings have been really good for, yes, sometimes it's been consistently very good every year.
- 31:53[SPEAKER_02]: People like, oh, this year's Vikings are taking a big step back.
- 31:57[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, last year they did take a step back, but they've been good Vikings have been very good.
- 32:03[SPEAKER_02]: And if JJ McCarthy puts it together.
- 32:06[SPEAKER_02]: If Kyler Murray is Kyler Murray again, which by the way, when Kyler Murray is Kyler Murray, is he a top five quarterback in the NFC, that guy when he was good was so it was crazy.
- 32:20[SPEAKER_00]: I say no.
- 32:23[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean he was very good quarterback when he was I might begin when it was healthy.
- 32:27[SPEAKER_00]: It was a couple of years ago Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I say I definitely say I mean dog the Vikings won nine games last year with you.
- 32:37[SPEAKER_00]: We talk about the Vikings like they were a five win team or four wins
- 32:44[SPEAKER_02]: a lot here.
- 32:46[SPEAKER_00]: Well Alex, you had the bears with the 11 wins and every other team in the North Head Nine wins.
- 32:53[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know how crazy that is?
- 32:55[SPEAKER_02]: Crazy.
- 32:56[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
- 32:56[SPEAKER_02]: Well, losing records in the division.
- 32:59[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
- 32:59[SPEAKER_00]: So again, you're going, you're going to have to go through this.
- 33:03[SPEAKER_00]: And we still, the bears still haven't gotten the lion's number yet.
- 33:07[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 33:07[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, you're playing the Patriots and the
- 33:12[SPEAKER_02]: And you're playing the first place record this year.
- 33:14[SPEAKER_02]: You do not have the luxury of playing that last place record like the bears had been playing.
- 33:20[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, now you're playing the first place record.
- 33:22[SPEAKER_02]: So You're talking about life.
- 33:28[SPEAKER_02]: I want to
- 33:31[SPEAKER_00]: But one thing we had, you had Bears General Manager Ryan Poles, had a press conference addressing the Drew Dalman early retirement.
- 33:41[SPEAKER_00]: He said that they were taken off guard, but they were mobile and in a few days, they were able to figure out that great Garrett Bradbury was going to be the replacement, which in that type of case you can't hate on that, you didn't get an expect a guy that's that young as you Dalman is about to walk away after you give him that
- 33:59[SPEAKER_00]: But also he mentioned that they were in talks for Max Crosby, right, and that was a guy that they were out trying to get, but of course clearly the price was too high the price was too high for the team to make trade for all right, so let's you know that price was way too high.
- 34:18[SPEAKER_02]: I still want the price was too first.
- 34:21[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, price was two first and the Raiders at the Raiders, basically for right now, Max Krabzi is back.
- 34:27[SPEAKER_00]: He says he's committed to the Raiders, we'll see.
- 34:30[SPEAKER_00]: They made a lot of the, they made a lot of the dishes as we just talked about with the amount of cat money that they had.
- 34:35[SPEAKER_00]: They do not have to release any of those guys.
- 34:37[SPEAKER_00]: They said they're going to sign all of those guys because of the room that they have with him coming back into the cat.
- 34:42[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, they could be a good team this year for all we know.
- 34:46[SPEAKER_02]: We got to see how for men to be really fun.
- 34:51[SPEAKER_02]: If Max Crosby does play for the Raiders, is healthy, is Max Crosby and leads the Raiders with, you know, Mendoza leading the ways out and they're good football team.
- 35:08[SPEAKER_02]: It would be that would be one of the best stories in a recent memory.
- 35:13[SPEAKER_00]: You don't think it's too.
- 35:14[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's only a couple of organizations that the
- 35:21[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't I try to phrase this?
- 35:23[SPEAKER_00]: The, a kind of class, I don't know, the type of character that Max Crosby is with like the Raiders fit him so well, regardless of where they're playing, but the Ravens did too, like you could see like, oh, I could get him being a Ra...
- 35:39[SPEAKER_00]: It gives you that.
- 35:40[SPEAKER_00]: that Andre Ray Lewis, T-Sizzle type of like that attitude that the rate of his defense has had historically since they moved to Baltimore from Cleveland.
- 35:53[SPEAKER_00]: Or like, you know what, I would say the steel is, but he just doesn't seem like a steeler play.
- 35:57[SPEAKER_00]: His way he plays is like a steeler, but the attitude, even though the steelers do have players on like receivers usually that it's like, what the hell is going on, right?
- 36:07[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they've always had that receivers, right?
- 36:09[SPEAKER_00]: Then a whole lot of guys, you just like, now you go through, of course, AB, you go to pickings, you go to, what's the worst thing you've got in there?
- 36:19[SPEAKER_02]: We get through a lesson.
- 36:20[SPEAKER_00]: Don't leave me on it.
- 36:21[SPEAKER_00]: Well, classical birds, you go through, what's his worst thing that he ended up with, he ended up with the New York team.
- 36:31[SPEAKER_00]: He was a, I forgot his name.
- 36:33[SPEAKER_00]: But they don't, they always have had.
- 36:36[SPEAKER_00]: Chase Clay will.
- 36:38[SPEAKER_00]: Can't forgot about that one.
- 36:39[SPEAKER_00]: How could I forget about that one?
- 36:42[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot the other guy.
- 36:43[SPEAKER_00]: He ended up.
- 36:45[SPEAKER_00]: of either the jets or the giants, I think he may have been a jet, but for real, they've always they've been able to do that when it comes to problematic receivers and being able to get a lot out of them before moving off from them or whatever, but again I didn't see Max to fit, but I they do think the funny thing is I think the bears
- 37:05[SPEAKER_00]: would kind of be a fit for him because of Chicago.
- 37:10[SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of like we, we kind of, if you win, we kind of like do you, you know what I'm saying to it?
- 37:17[SPEAKER_00]: Like you get some ask that by the way.
- 37:18[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, President Ski was a great white socks.
- 37:21[SPEAKER_02]: player Andrew Shaw great Chicago black ops player Dennis Ryan Dennis Rodman in a dress and we did not care No way Mary you're so easy.
- 37:32[SPEAKER_00]: Go right ahead.
- 37:33[SPEAKER_02]: Go get 15 rebounds and marry yourself who care Yeah, dude.
- 37:36[SPEAKER_00]: We did not we did not care right it was like wait.
- 37:38[SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna do that when he came in the way what happened with those next three championships It was like do do whatever
- 37:44[SPEAKER_00]: Freaking this you desire my guy just makes sure that you're on the court We need you to be on the court like that's the type of city for the most part.
- 37:52[SPEAKER_00]: Check it Caleb Williams, all right just with everything else around him when they first got him and people so worried about his nails When again, we didn't care what Dennis Robinson nails were paying it, but Caleb's nails was just and that's 20 something years ago Right, oh, I maybe 30 actually, but Caleb's nails.
- 38:08[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, 30 is Caleb's nails.
- 38:10[SPEAKER_00]: It's an issue, but anyway, that's
- 38:12[SPEAKER_00]: enough of me going on this tangent about Max Crosby and cultural fits with different teams around the league, particularly with his attitude and his plan style or whatever and you know the smoking the stuff or whatever doing.
- 38:28[SPEAKER_00]: And this, I mean some of that stuff, you just got to like that type of, you need some of that in your locker.
- 38:33[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think the bears, particularly with not having, how we kind of say the CJ Guard of Johnson, what he brought to the team, not having that
- 38:42[SPEAKER_00]: Who's like this you know what I'm saying like you kind of sometimes you need that like you You're being with your guys or you've been the guy to just say it that we're just like do and it just it's like a rally and call like you know what Forget it.
- 38:58[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go, right?
- 38:58[SPEAKER_02]: Like when we were fired up about heaven Jenkins on the offensive line because they've needed that on the offensive line Oh my goodness and potentially still need that on the offensive
- 39:06[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're what but he had the nasty he had the no no no no no no I'm whipped dog we will always regardless of it didn't pan out and regardless of this being another iteration of a different show be a pro 7 Jenkins podcast all right you need a guy you need a guy in the trenches who will finish with his man on the on the bench on the sideline yes you do yes you definitely do and maybe that guy is hurt right now maybe that guy is
- 39:33[SPEAKER_00]: a player that the bear's traded for from the Browns or got from the from that from the Browns, but Jared, Jerry Willis, check Jake Wills, thank you.
- 39:44[SPEAKER_02]: Some people I just know.
- 39:44[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 39:46[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see, he better get, he better be nasty.
- 39:48[SPEAKER_00]: I hope he gets nasty, because that's the only way you're going to get on the field.
- 39:51[SPEAKER_00]: But you're right, you need that guy that when we've mentioned in the past, the old and ask type of guy.
- 39:56[SPEAKER_00]: Anything else we need to go before we get out of here, Alex?
- 40:02[SPEAKER_00]: No, sir.
- 40:04[SPEAKER_02]: Would you like an update on my Oscar movie rankings?
- 40:10[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.
- 40:10[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's do it.
- 40:11[SPEAKER_02]: Just a quick Oscar rankings saw two of the short films.
- 40:15[SPEAKER_02]: One was armed with only a camera about Brent or no.
- 40:20[SPEAKER_02]: Man, if you want to really just hate war and want everybody to live peace on earth, this film is.
- 40:29[SPEAKER_02]: it will rock you to your core about how war is an extremely extremely bad thing and this man was extremely extremely brave as he tried to show people how terrible war is for real people.
- 40:43[SPEAKER_02]: Another one I think it was the devil devil stays busy something like that short film about a woman
- 40:58[SPEAKER_02]: In I don't remember, so I'm not going to say and just basically the community that surrounds that, like her running this clinic and then the protesters outside, it kind of shows you the whole thing.
- 41:11[SPEAKER_02]: Both very powerful, highly recommend each of them, I think both of them were wonderful short films.
- 41:16[SPEAKER_02]: Now stop feature films, Frankenstein dude, I think Frankenstein might be the number one.
- 41:20[SPEAKER_02]: Centers, centers in Frankenstein, it's it's it's coming down to the wire.
- 41:25[SPEAKER_02]: I still can't decide which one.
- 41:27[SPEAKER_02]: If you like the Frankenstein story, if you like Guillermo del Toro, I mean, this is up there with pans, laborin for me.
- 41:34[SPEAKER_02]: He takes some, he takes some liberties with the Frankenstein story that we all know and cherish so much.
- 41:41[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was amazing, Jacob awardee as the monster, exceptional, uh, so great movie.
- 41:49[SPEAKER_02]: I'll talk about a terrible movie, F1 Kenneth, if you were about the F1 film produced
- 41:56[SPEAKER_02]: by Lewis Hamilton, the greatest race driver of all time.
- 42:00[SPEAKER_02]: On Apple TV, no?
- 42:02[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I've heard about it.
- 42:04[SPEAKER_02]: I have friends who watch it.
- 42:05[SPEAKER_02]: It is, it's a blight on the academy that this is nominated for Best Picture.
- 42:10[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of the absolute worst films I've ever seen in my entire life.
- 42:14[SPEAKER_02]: Brad Pitt is just every Brad Pitt character you've ever seen put together.
- 42:19[SPEAKER_02]: The dialogue is terrible, the relationships are worse.
- 42:22[SPEAKER_02]: None of the plotting makes any sense.
- 42:25[SPEAKER_02]: The ending, they got literally an opposite backwards, like they should have flipped the ending.
- 42:29[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna spoil the ending.
- 42:31[SPEAKER_02]: Should have flipped it, technically it looks good.
- 42:34[SPEAKER_02]: Editing is good, sound is good.
- 42:36[SPEAKER_02]: Effects are good, yada, yada, yada, yada.
- 42:38[SPEAKER_02]: But what a bad movie.
- 42:40[SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe it's nominated for Best Picture.
- 42:43[SPEAKER_02]: Don't waste your time with that.
- 42:45[SPEAKER_02]: Unless you just want to see cameos of Alonzo and Carlos Sands and, you know, Max first step.
- 42:53[SPEAKER_02]: If that's your thing, you'll enjoy it, but drives your survive is about 3,000 percent better than F1.
- 42:59[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a little updated Oscar rankings, Oscars are coming up, dude.
- 43:03[SPEAKER_02]: Oscars are coming up, Frankenstein centers, they're at the top of the charts for me.
- 43:08[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I think kind of no extra point for you.
- 43:12[SPEAKER_00]: I don't actually point for me.
- 43:13[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoy this break that you have right now.
- 43:18[SPEAKER_00]: Do something positive, which is so.
- 43:21[SPEAKER_00]: That's it, that's all I got.
- 43:22[SPEAKER_00]: We've been talking some bears in a few days.
- 43:24[SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate you taking this time.
- 43:26[SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate Alex.
- 43:27[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like, I'd be like your Oscar break down.
- 43:29[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that was pretty informative.
- 43:31[SPEAKER_00]: So I look forward to seeing what, if there's anything else you need to watch or you finish watching everything.
- 43:37[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I would like to squeeze in a few more, whether or not that happens, you know, like sentimental value would love to see secret agent would love to see the Iranian film, it was all an accident would love to see it.
- 43:52[SPEAKER_02]: Does that make me a bad guy if I kind of just want to pass on Mari's Supreme don't care?
- 43:57[SPEAKER_00]: No, not about.
- 43:58[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so that's where I'm at.
- 43:59[SPEAKER_00]: All right, for Alex Shapiro, I am kind of Dave, this is the Winni City podcast and we will see you next time.