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MotoGP Catalan 2025 Round 15 Recap in S5 Ep 28 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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You're listening to the Bee Forever Cool podcast.
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My name is Rex 45. We got Reese in the building.
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We got the real Luis Ortega in the building.
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We got TJ. Crazy weekend guys with racing.
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If you're a fan of the Moto GP in the world, super bike stuff,
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I'm pretty sure I think BSB happened too.
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How's it going, TJ? Man, how's everything?
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You know, I'm just watching VSP Moto GP all weekend, just
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looking back and forth, different sessions and that's
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about it pretty much. We had a a rainy Sunday so
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stayed in all day and it was best time to catch up.
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Yeah, yeah, it's like that when it rains.
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At least we had sports on to a motorcycle racing on.
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There's other sports on too to keep us entertained.
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It did rain a little bit down here as well.
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What's going on, Lewis, man, How are things today?
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Good, good, busy. You know, this past weekend was
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pretty hectic. A lot of racing, a lot of
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personal stuff I had to get done.
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I spent last week in California. I flew back super early Friday
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to get jump on the weekend and try to get all my personal stuff
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done, but of course I didn't so. Hey, man, that's what that's why
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it's personal. You know, that's one of the, you
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know, without giving us too much detail on air, that's the, one
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of the things I would donate to help people do because I, I, I
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remember doing it once and I was just like, man, listen man, I'll
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give you something for that because that's that.
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It's no fun. Yeah, same here, man.
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If I would definitely help somebody out in the time of
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need. There's just, there's, there's
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some things you'd own that you don't realize how much you
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weigh, they weigh until you try to pick them up by yourself.
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You're like, how did I even give that shit in my house in the 1st
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place? Who helped me?
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I didn't do it myself. I know that for sure, Reese,
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man, how are things, man? You know, you got a big weekend
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coming up. So I mean, I think you must have
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been just on Cloud 9 since last week weekend started.
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It's been a hectic week, you know, same as Lewis, man, just
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getting back from California and over here in Texas, get a long
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weekend ready to go, you know, in the heat, time to get back to
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work. All right, man, well, it is that
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it's time to get back to work and the people come here for
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the, for the motorcycle talk. So we'll we'll get it going a
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little different tonight because I mean, you know, the, the
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younger brother finally got 1 looked like he would have had
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two if it didn't crash out. So let's just talk about that
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and, and what you guys think of what Alex Marquez accomplished
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and how much of that did Mark want to let him win versus
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because the championship would have been over obviously and it
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still may be. What are your thoughts on what
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Alex Marquez did being able to beat his brother, which
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apparently no one else has done all season on a Ducati?
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Yeah, man, no, it's it's good to see that Alice is back on track.
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I mean, well, for that, for that win, for all weekend, he he
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looked really well. It was it was tough to see him
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go down in the Sprint, how hard he's been trying.
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But it was a lot of pressure on him anyway, because Marcus does
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not want to win the championship yet at the how well he's been
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doing. So he knows his brother's his
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only competition. So he's been rooting for him.
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So now his brother wants to push a little stronger.
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And yeah, I'm glad he did it in the Sprint and not the GP
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because, you know, that's where the more points are held.
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But it was really good to see him pull it out and just to see
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the family and them too and celebrating in front of the the
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and Mark Marquez's corner. That was just a good sight to
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see it for the sport. That was really good did.
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Did you think? Did you think the brother gave
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him one? I, I, you know, at one point
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when he got a federal, I think Mark was like, I was just
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letting like get a like a second or half a second, but not make
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it too obvious. But he did put in a little fight
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and, and I don't think he was going to try to pull it off.
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I think he's going to let him try to win that one.
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All right, Reese, what are your thoughts on the win?
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And for you, man, do you think that you know Alex can do it
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again? To say he can do it again,
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maybe. I mean, depends on the track,
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depends on where he goes. That's going to be the biggest
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factor. I mean, I'm glad he did pull it
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out. And like TJ said, I'm glad that
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he didn't, you know, crash in the GP race.
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I'm glad he crashed in the in the Sprint race.
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And I think the pressure was on him.
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And I mean, I watched the kind of like to have to talk for it.
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And he said that it was his fault.
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He was pushing and his brother Mark was saying you didn't need
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to push. He was actually pulling away
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from him. So and Mark wasn't all there
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that week this weekend. I mean, Alex was faster than him
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all weekend. So I mean, it was nice to see
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him get to win. I mean, I hope, you know, he can
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come back and pull out another one and keep the keep the whole
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championship going. I mean, it was kind of nice.
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I mean, but what we all know ultimately at the end of the day
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that Marquez is going to pull out the championship and win.
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This whole thing is pretty much locked and sealed.
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He can take the kind of the rest of season off.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I mean, yeah, yeah.
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What are your thoughts, Lewis? You know, and you know, you
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heard Reese mentioned and I was thinking this as well, that, you
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know, Mock struggled this weekend.
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Is that a little bit of nerves or it's just sometimes it's just
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sometimes it happens every once in a while anyway, so it could
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be just that. Yeah, sometimes it just happens.
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Sometimes it's just not your track, not your weekend.
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You're just not feeling that that that that grooving.
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And I think he struggled throughout the weekend.
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I mean, if you looked at the practice, he had a couple of big
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Mark Marquez saves on his elbow and then things like that.
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So, you know, this is a track he's done well at the past, but
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he hasn't been dominant at this track for specifically.
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And you know, again, this is a heavy right-handed track and
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he's obviously much stronger on left-handed track.
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He loves counterclockwise tracks.
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And his brother just was on pace from the very first practice
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right to, you know, the Sprint. I mean, I thought his brother
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was going to win the Sprint. He was walking away with it and
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you know, he lost the front and as you know, that's part of
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racing. You crash.
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But then his brother came back on Sunday and really did show
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the pace that he had on Saturday wasn't a fluke.
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It wasn't just for a few laps. I mean, there was a point in the
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race where, you know, they were the only two guys laughing in
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that 140 and they were just walking away from each other.
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And I think legitimately Mark did try to win.
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If you look, you know, a little bit past the halfway mark, I
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think with like 8 laps left, you know, Mark tried to do what Mark
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normally does is when the tires drop off, try to make that move.
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And, and he did close in on his brother a couple of times and
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then he ran wide. He had a little bit of an issue.
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So I don't think he let him win specifically.
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I read, you know, Mark, Mark likes to win.
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You know, any top rider like that likes to be on the top
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staff. And you know, I when people say,
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oh he let him win again, you don't realize the, the bonus
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money that's behind these wins. The difference between 1st and
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2nd place could be anywhere from $20,000 to $200,000 depending on
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how your contract is laid out. So you know, I don't think Alex
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is going to send Mark a check for 150K for letting him win.
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I think he legit beat Mark as Alex beat Mark on a heads up
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event just because Alex was better at this track.
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Man, throughout the whole weekend he was, he was showing
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those signs of brilliance. And after the tough couple of
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rounds that he's had, it's good to see him bounce back and get
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back up towards the front because yeah, he's he has had
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some pretty hard rounds, like the last 3-4 rounds, you know,
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he went from being that guy in second place, guy in second
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place, guy in second place win one guy in second place to like
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DNFDNF, you know, long lap penalty.
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Yeah, he, he went more Benelli on us, man.
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He went, he went rogue for a minute.
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But unlike Morbidelli, you know, he actually is has been on the
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top step. He has tasted that good Prosecco
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from the top step. And Morbidelli's just tasted a
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lot of gravel lately and a lot of penalties, you know?
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Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that. We'll get to that.
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What Toraro you know, getting on the podium?
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Q2. What do you think of Quatarara's
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ride? I know you, I know you guys
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think highly of of Quatararo. What are your thoughts DJ?
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You know, I feel like he has it in him every weekend, every
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round. It's just, you know, the package
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that's put together for him. You know, he can ride around any
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problem. Pretty much.
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He doesn't really complain unless it's something really
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dramatic, but every every podium he got or or when he was on
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pole, he's earned every every ounce of it.
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So he rode really well in the Sprint.
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I see that it was definitely a step in the right direction for
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the Honda for that race. But for long distance they still
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still struggling a little bit. But that thing is definitely
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well deserved for Fabio to finally get a.
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Taste of the podium again. I, I I completely agree with
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your thoughts Reese on on quadraros performance.
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I think he was the first, I think he was the first one in
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130 sevens, if not mistaken. Oh yeah.
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So it was pretty, pretty crazy to see.
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Yeah, it was pretty crazy to see, to see him be the first one
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in the 37 mark and have the the front step for a while.
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So I mean, it's pretty nice. You could tell that like you
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said, like you just said, they just don't have the package.
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But I mean, it's coming along. I know they're out there today.
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I think they were doing a private testing and he's
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actually getting a ride that V4. So we'll see how that goes and
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see if they're ready to step it up.
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I mean, but I mean, I was happy to see him up there in the
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second place. I mean, well, he was third until
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Alex crash and took second. So I mean, I was happy to see
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that and I was happy to see him get top five in in the GP race.
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I mean, it was kind of nice to see the boys back up there and
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not be back there where, you know, the back markers.
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So it's kind of kind of nice to see that.
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You know, if Smitty was on the show, he'll be talking about,
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you know, the top, the top, the bottom 5 need to get lose their
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job, right? There's Bastianini and Vili
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Olives and the other things, time and the.
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Yeah. I mean what you got to do, I
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mean we're, we're the back markers right now.
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Yeah. Nothing we can do on that, and
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there's nothing I can do just get a new package.
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Lewis man, numbers guy Yamaha, what quarter hour did it's the
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best season he's had since he to me since he's won the
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championship. Would you agree with that and
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and what you thought of of his performance though over the
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weekend? I mean, he always tries to put
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on the best performance he can with what he has underneath him.
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You know, he right now, he is the best rider on the shittiest
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bike. You know, even with all the
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riders that Honda has, none of them are at his level as far as
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skill, even though their bikes are just equally as shitty.
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He is the best rider on the shittiest bike, man.
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And I and I feel for the guy because you see that he is
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pushing, he's trying his best with what he has.
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And at some tracks, again, their Yamaha tracks, he can take
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advantage of the strengths of the Yamaha.
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And, you know, this specific track, I mean, this track
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doesn't have a lot of straightaways.
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You're on the side of the tire a lot.
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It's a lot of cornering speed. And that's where the yacht
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Yamaha is always accelerated. So this is a really good track
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for Yamaha, but you know, again, you know, it sucks that he could
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only be good at a track that that bike specifically could
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work at because he's at such a deficit in power and other
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things. You know, I know Yamaha was or
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has been saying that the V4 is coming.
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I've been hearing that for years now.
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They, you know, they finally gave a date when it'll be on the
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track. So I'm looking forward to that
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day coming and I'm looking forward to them hopefully taking
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that next step because I Cuatro is a guy you should see in the
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top 8 every weekend. Like he's a perennial top seven,
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top eight guy. He shouldn't be finishing, you
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know, lower than 10th, sometimes finishing in 18th place.
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I mean, that's, that's not the place.
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And I can understand his frustrations with the bike, but
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again, he keeps signing the contracts too.
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So the checks must be clearing and they must be big enough to
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keep him on that shit box until they deliver something else.
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But at some point, you know, if they don't deliver something,
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he's going to have to hit the eject button, just like Mark did
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with Honda. You know, at a certain point you
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got to think about your career, your career longevity, what
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legacy you want to leave for yourself, you know, for the
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public. You know, if you want to leave
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them legacy, you can. But I'd rather leave my legacy
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in my bank account then leave my legacy in how people look at me.
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You don't have to like me, you know, I do what I do.
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And you know, there's a lot of people that don't like Paul
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Toraro. But he does what he does, man.
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He gets on the bike, puts on a helmet, he goes hella fast on a
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shitty bike. So you got to give it to him.
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Only thing I can say is I think Zaco will object to that.
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He, you know, he, he's stacked up the on a on a shitty bike and
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he got he, he he's sipping the top step of the podium and they.
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Didn't give him a factory bike, so they didn't sign it, but they
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didn't give a. Factory yeah before we move all
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your thoughts on him not getting a factory seat because I.
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Think I think they'll give him a factory bike just on the
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satellite team. OK.
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Like, I think they just want to keep the younger guys, huh?
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They're going to be paying them from satellite money versus
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factory money. I mean, satellite money still
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pays the bills, man. You know it's not factory money.
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It's not. But now, well, but it also
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doesn't come. It doesn't come with as many
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commitments that you have to do when you're on a factory team.
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Like when you're on a factory team, from the time you get to
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the track to the time you leave everything to how fast or how
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much time you have to wipe your ass is laid out for you.
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Like, you know, 7:00 PM Thursday night, you got to do this from
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this to this, you know, 9:30 PM Thursday night, you got to do
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this to this. 6:30 AM, you got to be up because at 7:00 you got
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your first interview and you got to be there 6:45 after the
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interview's done, you're going to go to the team.
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You're going to like, whereas a satellite team, they still have
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that structure, but they don't have as many publicity
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commitments because who really wants to talk to the LCR guy?
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Come on. Like legit man.
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I got to agree with that. How many times have you seen
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Fernandez? You know, swamped Say I can't
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get away. I can't get away.
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Agura, man. I've seen Gura and be like yo
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man. I know what you mean, it
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happened to me. Yeah, the factory guys, man, if
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you see them, they literally from the trailer to the pit to
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the Media Center to this to that, Like they got somebody
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with them because they have to like they they can't even keep
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track of their schedule. Like they look forward to
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getting on the bike so they don't have to do all that other
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stuff. This is the part that I like.
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All that other stuff is what I got to deal with.
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And even, you know, if you go back, Casey Stoner is one of his
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biggest gripes about Moto GP. He's like, I'm here to ride a
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bike. I hate doing these interviews.
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I hate doing this. I hate, you know, I got to do
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autograph signings. People lay out 100 neat pucks in
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front of me. I got to sign these from this
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time to this. Like this is not what I came.
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I came to ride a bike, go fast and win.
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Right. Well, I mean, listen, you know,
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some of that signing, you know, I'm pretty sure Casey doesn't
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have a job right now. He's getting paid.
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So kind of works a little bit in their favor too.
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But let's move. Let's move on the KTM boys guys,
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man, listen, I thought, you know, I thought it was like a
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three headed dragon moving at one point.
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What are your thoughts on what they were doing?
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I mean, Bender shining a little bit.
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I mean, I I think we still got some more rounds for him to say,
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OK, he he kind of saved his season.
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But what are your thoughts on what bashing in the Acosta and
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and and Bender until he crashed out was able to do TJ?
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Well, yeah, I mean the Sprint, you know, been there actually in
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the past. Like he, he loves sprints also.
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So it was, it was good to see him, you know, not too terrible
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as he's been kind of doing this year.
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But for watching the KTMS, like, you know, all three of them
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together in the Sprint, it was actually a good sight to see
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that, you know, the way they were rolling in and jelling with
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each other. And you see, they had like,
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obviously the same package where they were just the same
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competition. But it was good to see them like
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running. I think there were four, like
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they were obviously top ten, but yeah, 4 fifth and 6th.
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So that was pretty good to see. Yeah.
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So what I was looking at, it's like, all right, out of all
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these three, what KTM riders try to prove himself the most like
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who wants to be upfront and take the charge?
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So I'll see Pedro constantly trying to take the jump and then
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out of nowhere and they are Bastanini out of such a, you
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know, good flight, which and results had he had a good
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weekend, you know. So that was really good for the
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KTM guys seeing the whole paddock smiling and everything.
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So that was a good sight. Reese, I mean, what are your
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thoughts on how KTM did and also Bassionini?
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I mean, you know, as TJ said, Acosta, you know, wants to be
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the main guy, but Bassionini is looking real nice, like he's
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going to be the main guy for the rest of the season.
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I mean, yeah, it was nice to see them all up there finally.
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I mean, I don't know if they were all trying to prove
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something for the new CEO of KTM out there.
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I don't know what they were doing, but whatever it did, it
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actually worked. So I mean, Bassionini's come
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along like the checks are actually coming now.
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Like, oh man, we got checks now. That's right.
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You know, I don't know, they got some money now.
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Like we are right now, like, hey, if you want me to ride,
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show me the money first. But I don't know.
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I mean, Vasaninis, like I said, he's coming along.
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He's I think he doesn't want, I think he wants to be that top
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guy over Acosta and Acosta was leading.
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I mean, but Bassinini showing his potential on that KTM and
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actually stepping, finally stepping his game up and not
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somewhere in a, like I said, back marker somewhere you can't
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find them and like where, where you at?
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And Brad Bender, you know, he's like TJ said, he likes to Sprint
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races. You know, he does very well on
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Sprint when it comes to the GP race, he's he falls off his flat
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on his ass sometimes. But I mean, he was right there.
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He rides a little wild. He rides a little wild.
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I mean I got to call. Out there for him on that bike,
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bro. Just got to call it where you
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see it, man. I mean, he's always somewhere on
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the ground or blown up or I don't know.
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I mean the Costa, he gets a good jump and and he just kind of
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fade back maybe one or two spots and then kind of settle in
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there. But it was nice to see.
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Yeah, it was nice he saw how, you know, talk about sliding
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Bender and and and Bastionini. When they were all together,
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those two were just slide in the rear like crazy.
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Right. And you've seen it.
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They were backing it in every corner.
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They were trying to get in there.
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And I was like, nice, just had a watch.
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Yeah, Missouri. I I had a Tech 3 new guy.
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Let me talk a little bit about that little What are your
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thoughts on KTM? And also, yeah, let's talk about
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Tech 3 and the new owner. What's his name from NASCAR, but
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also Formula One, because it seems like he'd rather say he
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owns a NASCAR team than was in Formula One every time he was in
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front of a Mike and Moto GP. What are your thoughts on what
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KTM did? I was impressed with KTM.
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Again, this is a track that I think really did benefit them,
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at least played into a little bit more of their strengths.
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But I think all the riders that are doing well in KTM right now
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all need to send a big thank you to Maverick Vignales, because
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he's the one that kind of showed them the way with this new
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package this year. He was the first one to really
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start being successful on a regular.
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And once he became successful on a regular, all of a sudden that
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started to propagate to everybody else.
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Everybody else started getting a little better, a little faster,
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a little bit more confident. I think the biggest bonehead
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mistake of the weekend was Acosta going with the software
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tire. Yeah.
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I don't know what he thought he was gonna do.
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That track is brutal on tires. You spent a lot of time on the
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side of your tire and you saw that, you know, halfway through
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the race he started dropping. He started dropping.
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He's coming out of the corners, he's spinning the tire.
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I mean, if he had gone with the same compound that the rest of
21:28
the KTM riders went with, he probably would have been
21:31
battling with Bastini right to the end for that third spot.
21:35
I mean, he's lucky he even got away with where he got away
21:37
because at the lap, had the track, had the race been a
21:41
couple more laps, realistically he might have finished 7th
21:46
because you know, the the four or five guys behind him were
21:48
catching him fast. You know.
21:50
He was only one second less than a second ahead of Quadraro.
21:55
He was about a second and a half in front of Agura.
21:59
And I mean, he was still 3 seconds faster than Bag Nya, So
22:02
we want to talk about that. Who is it faster than bag?
22:08
Nya right but. I think the next, I think the
22:13
next round is also going to be a good round for the KTM package.
22:18
You know, they're going to Italy and that track is going to be
22:20
really good for them. That track is going to be good
22:22
for them. Is not going to be great for
22:24
Yamaha. I think Quattaro will do his
22:27
best in that backside of the track where you can kind of get
22:30
some speed and goes through some fast corners.
22:34
But I think the KTMS will be back up there next week.
22:37
I don't know where the Aprilia's are going to be because, you
22:40
know. We got a we.
22:44
Got an injury issue now, possibly thanks to somebody
22:48
taking somebody out and going to say no names.
22:54
Good, good old Frankie. He got away with one though.
22:58
The second. One was he didn't get away with
23:00
that second one that was clean the second one but that first
23:03
one, yeah, for sure. So we'll.
23:05
See, we'll see this next track, but I think KTM is probably
23:08
going to be good the next 3 or 4 tracks and then we'll see if
23:12
they can keep carrying that momentum and everybody on KTM's
23:16
is safe right now. They all have contracts for 26
23:18
already signed, so they just got a ride.
23:21
And then next year we'll see how things sort.
23:23
I mean, if things keep going the way they're going, the main
23:26
person I see at any risk of losing their job next year is
23:29
Bender. You know, I think when Vinales
23:31
gets healthy again, he's going to be right up at the front
23:33
again and been there with as many years they've been on the
23:35
KTM. He's the one guy that is not
23:38
shining and you can't be on a on a bike on a factory bike that
23:42
long and have you guys come in and out shining you.
23:45
So next year the spot that he is going to be definitely turned up
23:48
on Bender unless again unless he's got some compromising
23:52
photos of the right people, then you're going to keep his job
23:55
you. Know how many days?
23:57
How many rounds of vinyales is actually going to be up top
24:00
though? Yeah, if, if.
24:01
Vinyales. Is healthy, honestly, he can be
24:04
good. But again, man, he's got to be
24:06
on the perfect bike. And it seemed like he helped
24:08
them get the bike pretty sorted because before he started
24:11
getting on his streak, I mean the KTM boys looked like they
24:15
didn't have a road map on how to get around a track.
24:17
And now all of a sudden, you know, whatever they did or
24:20
whatever he developed or whatever he did as far as
24:22
changing the package, now all of a sudden the KTM's are looking
24:25
great. And they got great riders.
24:28
You know Bastianini and Acosta aren't slouches.
24:32
So we'll see how the rest of the season.
24:33
Goes for them. I think it's, I think it's
24:35
positive and I think that new ownership, I can't remember the
24:39
dude's name, Stein. Gunther.
24:42
Steiner yeah, things like that. Again.
24:46
It's always good to have an infusion of money, man.
24:48
You know you can't go racing without money.
24:51
So if you get infusion of money and you can get infusion of new
24:55
ideas, you know, let's see what he brings over from NASCAR, what
24:59
he brings over from Formula One. Let's see what the shake up is
25:03
going to. Because like he said in the
25:04
interview, from now until the end of the year is going to be
25:07
status quo. But you know, when the end of
25:10
the year comes, let's see what happens, what changes he's going
25:12
to make. You know, how's the team going
25:14
to look? You know, are they going to stay
25:16
with Red Bull? You know, because technically
25:18
Tech 3 doesn't have to stay with Red Bull.
25:20
I'm sure Red Bull is giving him some good coin, but let's say he
25:23
wants to rebrand the team under his brand and do all these other
25:27
things and bring in new sponsors.
25:28
It's going to be real interesting for Tech 3.
25:30
I hope. I hope Tech 3 gets a huge
25:33
infusion of money. I hope they get away from the
25:35
Red Bull logo. Like we don't need 4/4 dudes on
25:39
bikes that look exactly the same even though they're not like.
25:42
Bring in some new. Sponsors let's.
25:45
You know, let's. Go Formula One style.
25:46
Let's have you know 15 different sponsors sponsoring bikes out
25:50
there. Yeah, we're going to I'm.
25:51
Going to look forward to seeing what happened and I mean, I
25:53
think for Harvey Montreal, it's tough letting go your baby and
25:57
he's he's had that baby for a minute.
26:00
So I think he's. Maxed out what he could do with
26:04
it. I mean, he, he's had a lot of
26:05
success. If you think about all the
26:07
people that have gone through Tech 3, think about all the
26:10
riders they, they have back when they were with the Yamaha, you
26:14
know, I mean, that was a launching pad for a lot of great
26:16
Yamaha riders. That was a launching pad for a
26:18
lot of great riders in general. Yeah, for.
26:21
Sure. It just comes, you know?
26:22
Sometimes it just comes that day that you just got to let go.
26:25
We got to let go. That's the.
26:26
Downside. That's it, Father.
26:27
Time to check over. That's it.
26:30
But let's. Move on to Aprilia because if
26:32
you touched on it a little bit, we'll talk.
26:34
Let's we'll start with TJ on that Aprilia.
26:37
What they did, it looked, I mean, Bazecki looked like he, he
26:40
would have been the front runner for the Aprilia brand and until
26:44
he got jacked up. And even though he he he did
26:47
crash out in the main race, now he only made.
26:50
It one lap, did he crash out in both?
26:52
Phrases did he? Crash in the second he got
26:55
taken, he got taken out, right? He got taken out.
26:59
And then and then I think he crashed the second race too.
27:02
OK, Yeah. I'm sorry you.
27:04
Had a horrible weekend. Yeah, yeah.
27:06
Yeah, this is the one on the weekend they need.
27:08
To forget, yeah, he completed one lap.
27:12
Yeah, what are your? Thoughts TJ on Aprilia Martine
27:15
the track house boys because they they a guru is looking
27:20
really good again after, you know, hopefully just healing up
27:24
better because he's starting showpace again and getting out
27:26
in front of Fernandez. What are your thoughts?
27:30
Yeah, I mean. I grew up, I, I grew up probably
27:33
look the best out of all their Prairie rides this weekend.
27:37
I mean with more Martine getting taken out by by Jackie, I mean
27:43
by Mobijeli and and the Sprint, was it Mobijeli?
27:48
And who did? The Furman take out.
27:50
Yeah, yeah. So mobijeli.
27:52
Took out Martine and who took out and and Furman Took out
27:56
Bazecki. Yeah, Furman.
27:57
Took out Bazecki and yeah, Yep, that's the correct name.
28:01
Scotti Ducati, huh? Yeah, so that.
28:06
That was just, you know, when, when you when you try to have a
28:10
good qualifying and and you go, it's for all racing.
28:13
But that you know, the luck Bazecki been having, he's been
28:17
on a good high, but just to have someone take you out, it just
28:21
sucks, you know, because like you know, which they just break
28:24
a little early or something like that.
28:25
But just to have the, you know, Martine and Bazecki go out and
28:31
basically a watch weekend for the Sprint and the GP, it's hard
28:35
to think about because you're like you got nothing out of it.
28:38
You tried so hard to get where you are in the beginning and all
28:43
the to the practicing and stuff like that to get ahead of
28:46
everybody. So I mean hopefully luckily it's
28:49
a quick turn around and they can just forget it and hopefully
28:53
just look like ATM and get. All their prayers.
28:57
Back going on the right stepping stone.
29:01
OK, that's what's up, Reese. What?
29:03
Are your thoughts on Aprilia? They seem to be more consistent
29:06
this year. I think, you know, like the
29:09
first few races we can probably say was up and down.
29:12
They also didn't have Martine, obviously, but Martine finished
29:15
13th in the main race. I don't know.
29:17
And it was taken out in the Sprint.
29:20
But you know, Fernandez and and Iagura, those guys rode really
29:24
well. Your thoughts on where Aprilia
29:27
is and how they're doing this, where they're at in the season?
29:30
I mean I. Definitely agree with you.
29:31
Yeah, I definitely think that is more consistent this year
29:34
overall. And like it's like, you know,
29:37
unfortunately, you know, both top guys in Aprilia were taken
29:41
out, you know, with more redeli and them they were all taken
29:44
out. But Agoura, I mean he actually
29:46
held, he carried a flag this weekend.
29:48
I mean for the the main race he actually carried it and he did
29:51
very well. I mean, I think that.
29:55
Next year we're going to be a. Little different once all guys
29:58
are 100% healthy and they get their time to be on the bike to
30:03
develop the bike to where they need to be and and get the bike
30:07
to that with their standards. I think it's going to be a
30:09
little bit different race. I think they'll be up there
30:11
always in the top five. You know, I hope Jorge come back
30:14
stronger and be a little be a nice battle.
30:16
So we'll we'll see what they got next year coming into it.
30:19
I mean, this year I think they just need to salvage as much as
30:21
they can. Bethany still is what third?
30:25
I mean, Bazeki is still third. Yeah, Bazeki is still third.
30:28
So I mean, long as he can carry the points and so right, I mean.
30:34
He's doing. Better than Pekka?
30:36
Do you think that out? There, Yeah.
30:38
Yeah, I mean we. I see it.
30:40
I see it right there. Do you think he do you think
30:44
that more Bedelli's penalty was enough?
30:48
I mean, if he, if you look at it as one instance, but if you look
30:51
at the whole year at some point, like race direction should do a
30:55
little bit more because it's like it's one lap.
30:57
And I think he recovered. He also cracked.
31:00
Oh, he did he cry? Yeah, he end up crashing out.
31:03
But he still is doing fairly decent even after his long lap
31:06
penalty. Do you think it should be?
31:09
It should have been worse than this one lap I I think it's
31:12
going. To come down to more than one
31:15
lap with him. I mean, you look it's like
31:16
almost like technically a consistency of something going
31:19
on like every round he's going up to the race direction, he's
31:23
doing something and I'm still trying to figure out how the
31:25
heck did he get another year on his bike?
31:27
Like like Jesus Christ, I'm just I'm like give it up like he
31:32
hasn't really been relevant since COVID years.
31:35
Well, the. Thing is, what are what are what
31:38
other available Italian is there to put on that bike right now?
31:41
That is a good point there. Isn't that Valentino Rossi is?
31:44
Not, you know, in the. Practice of.
31:49
Giving his seats to non Italians, you know he's got AVR
31:52
46 Academy, he helps get Italians through Moto 3 and Moto
31:56
2. He signs a lot of these Italians
31:59
to his his VR 46 camp. So what is he going to do?
32:03
You know, for all these rumors that people have been saying
32:05
about Acosta going to VR46, I never believed it for once that
32:09
Rossi was going to put a Spaniard on his bike over an
32:12
Italian like he. No, I never bought that.
32:15
Off the street in the middle. Of Venice and give him a bike
32:17
before he gives a Spaniard a bike.
32:21
No, but I thought he was going. To at least get somebody from
32:22
Moto 2. One of his upcoming guys, yeah,
32:25
but none of his. Upcoming guys look that strong
32:28
in Moto 2, you know, so it's give Frank, give Frankie another
32:32
year and see what shakes out. And maybe, you know, maybe next
32:35
year, you know, more penalties. Peg.
32:38
Yeah, but Pekko gets kicked off the Ducati squad and he can pick
32:42
him up and put him on his bike or some other Italian you know,
32:45
doesn't resign with their team. Because next year, if you think
32:48
about it, Pekko be free, Fazecki will be free.
32:54
There's a lot of free Italians next year that he can put on the
32:57
bike. So giving Frankie a one year
32:59
contract just to keep an Italian ass on that seat and keep it
33:02
warm for another year is not a bad idea, even though Frankie's
33:05
going to cost them a lot of money in parts and a lot of
33:08
headaches. But Frankie.
33:11
'S you know he's doing fairly well.
33:13
I mean you when he's when he's not.
33:14
Crashing into people? Yeah, despite all.
33:17
Of his penalties, he's like, he's like, So you think if he
33:21
didn't have these penalties, how much further he could be in the
33:23
championship? Yeah, but the thing.
33:25
Is like I said, Frankie kills me.
33:27
Like Frankie's my boy. I like Frankie.
33:30
But Frankie's like that. Brother that every time the
33:33
phone rings on a Saturday night you're like oh shit man 1:00 AM
33:41
Why he calling me man? That's that's.
33:47
Frankie, like you're my family, my boy.
33:49
I like you. 1:00 Saturday morning.
33:59
Hi this is. Sergeant, such and such.
34:01
Are you Luis Ortega? Yeah.
34:06
Nobody else to call. I mean, listen, you're you're
34:08
absolutely right. I mean, you know, Rossi has
34:12
Rossi looks out for his peoples and and we saw that, you know, I
34:18
mean, I think, you know, we're going to move on to Honda
34:20
anyway. But like he looks out for his
34:22
people. You see what he did for his
34:23
brother and and all the other writers that he's brought to and
34:27
even I can't remember his name. Migos.
34:30
Migos. Yeah, yeah, Meno.
34:34
Yeah, it's just like he, you know, these these are, you know,
34:38
knock to him, but it's more talented riders than him and
34:41
he's still he's in motor E now, but still, you know, he's still
34:45
on a bike. Well, I think the reason.
34:46
That they signed Frankie this late in the game is because he
34:49
really was waiting to see if Honda would sign his brother.
34:51
And once Honda signed his brother, then he was like, all
34:54
right, now I got a seat available.
34:56
Let me sign Frankie. You know that that's really, I
34:59
feel that's really what it came down to.
35:00
Because if Honda did not sign his brother, then his brother be
35:03
back on a Ducati next year on a VR46 bike.
35:07
Got you. That's the way.
35:09
And I don't blame him. Man, if that was my family and I
35:13
know my brother, his brother has talent.
35:14
His brother talented rider. We'll.
35:16
Talk about that cuz we're gonna jump into Honda but yeah let's
35:19
talk about how he's been doing. He come back after his injury
35:22
and, you know, he is a talented writer.
35:25
Yeah. No, he's I.
35:26
Mean TJ can kick it off, but I think he's definitely up there.
35:31
TJ Well, we'll set it up, man. Like we see Zaco, you know, the
35:36
other Frenchman who's doing well on a bad bike.
35:40
Mir is struggle a little bit but did well.
35:42
But you know, it looked like Lucas kind of having
35:45
back-to-back rounds and he's going home next weekend.
35:49
So his chances are he might be even get on the podium on that
35:53
Honda because that that Honda was looking strong out there
35:56
fighting with the KTMS and the previous man.
36:01
Yeah, the the Honda. 'S actually looking much better
36:04
than you know you can see that progression and when you come
36:08
off an injury you obviously have your setbacks.
36:12
So it's good to see you know mirror Luca Marini, you know
36:17
mayor always crashing Luca Marini was out, so it was good
36:20
to see Honda actually finishing. You know Zarkos proved this
36:25
point. You know he's got on the podium
36:27
he's throwing that bike around so for him crashing out, you
36:31
know he was giving his all, but I mean for them to finish you
36:36
know I think Mary and Luca Marini finished in top ten.
36:40
It was definitely good to see looks like definitely Luca
36:43
Marini coming back into his own. And then when you build, when
36:47
you start finishing and, and getting top ten and, and you
36:51
know, actually finishing the whole weekend, you build more
36:54
confidence. And you see it in Luca Marini
36:57
for sure, where he's got on with the guys that, you know, not
37:02
used to seeing a battle with. OK, what?
37:06
Are your thoughts Reese man on what Honda is doing?
37:09
I'm trying to see what Zarko was 7th and in the qualifying and
37:14
Luca was he was like. 3rd. He was.
37:18
Oops. Qualifying.
37:20
In qualifying. So yeah.
37:23
So. Pretty fast.
37:26
What row was? Luca Luca Marini on two or
37:29
three. Third.
37:32
Third. Yeah, he started. 10th probably
37:34
even 4th row, right? 4th row across, three across,
37:37
three across Yeah 3. Across, Yeah.
37:40
So not too far off to, you know, like 6/10, almost 7/10.
37:46
I mean, he started. A further upfront than Bagnaya
37:49
so. You.
37:55
Know. We don't.
37:57
We don't talk about. Too many people in the back, I
38:01
mean, and Lewis and. Lewis said.
38:04
Watch this hold my beer. He's back.
38:09
They were. Chargers but.
38:11
Reason Your thoughts on how Honda's doing?
38:13
You think they have they you think they have everything to
38:17
finish strong. Do you think they have a chance
38:20
to be like a, you know, as far as manufacture one of the top
38:23
three manufacturers for next season because you know, they've
38:26
been showing glimmer and and you know, what are your thoughts?
38:32
As much as it kills me to. Say this, I say yes.
38:34
I mean, it kills me to say it. I mean, they've been showing out
38:37
of the the the Jack boys that they have the progression to
38:41
come back. They are doing a progression
38:43
slowly but surely and I think that, you know, once they get
38:49
their stuff back together, they're going to be a top
38:51
contender. They're actually on their way
38:52
back up. I mean, Luca Marini show that
38:54
you just said he qualified and what the 4th rows and then come
38:57
up there in the top 10. So I mean, I I said they're
39:03
they're on their way back. I mean, I just wish the boys in
39:06
blue had figured this crap out and get this V4 going and stop
39:09
being so slow. But I mean, I could say that I
39:14
think next year that we're going to see the, I mean, the Honda
39:17
boys back up in the on the podium.
39:21
Yeah, I can I. Can kind of see that as well for
39:24
sure. And rightfully so, because it's,
39:26
you know, as much as I love Ducati, it's, it's nice when
39:30
there's, there's other brands competing versus, you know, the
39:33
top six Ducati riders competing with each other, you know, you
39:37
mean in the Ducati Cup. Yeah, exactly.
39:40
I'm not saying that this year, right, So you know it is you
39:43
know, it's definitely been abolished by the by the non
39:47
Ducatius mark has come. Now.
39:52
What are your thoughts Lewis on? How Honda is doing, do you agree
39:55
with Reese and myself is saying that, you know, Honda could be
39:57
one of the top three brands on the West rises next season on on
40:01
wins and podiums and all that fun stuff?
40:03
Yeah, they're going in the right.
40:04
Direction, I mean, if you look at them and you look at Yamaha,
40:07
you know, I think Honda is definitely a lot closer than
40:10
Yamaha is. If you look at overall, when
40:12
they're both healthy, the the larger majority of Honda riders
40:18
finish higher up than the larger majority of Yamaha riders.
40:23
So, you know, given all things apples to apples, I think Honda
40:27
is just a few steps ahead because the only thing that's
40:30
making Yamaha look good right now is Quadraro.
40:33
While on the Honda side, Marini does it, has his great days,
40:36
Rinz has his good days and Zarko has his good days.
40:40
So I think they definitely have a little bit better of a package
40:43
somewhere because they're finishing a little bit better.
40:46
And it's not like they have consistently better riders.
40:49
You know, I think they're both on par and Yamaha definitely has
40:53
overall the better rider. Quadraro, you know Yamaha, they
40:59
got OK riders. You know I can't believe that
41:02
Jack Miller is still there. I really thought he was going to
41:04
go to war super bike. But Honda kept their crew
41:08
they're happy with the team. That's why they re signed
41:11
everybody to make sure that they're there next year and keep
41:13
developing the bike. And I really do think that by
41:16
the end of this year and going into next year, Honda would be
41:18
in a much better position because I don't see a lot of
41:21
development happening with the current bikes next year
41:23
considering what's going to happen in 27.
41:25
So you know, I think that the money's going now towards the 27
41:29
bike and Honda's still finding little pieces for this bike that
41:33
they can bring over to the 27 bike.
41:35
So I I. I let me ask you this who's a
41:39
better teammate for Top Rock than Jack Miller in Moto G?
41:45
Nobody. That's it when you say teammate.
41:49
You mean somebody that's going to be easy for him to beat?
41:53
Come on, man. You know, it's more to it than
41:55
that. Come on, man, Come on.
41:57
And it's not going to be easy to meet Jack.
41:58
Jack Miller just beats himself because he's usually, you know,
42:02
chucks it down the road. I mean, Jack's a Jack.
42:05
'S a personality. He's a pretty open guy.
42:07
He's pretty easy, easy to get along with kind of person, kind
42:11
of rider. So I think that that's going to
42:13
be a good gel for the two of them.
42:15
You know, Top Rank is going to be stepping in the Moto GP.
42:17
You know, he's coming from the big fish in the little pond and
42:21
now he's going to be a mediocre fish in a big pond that got a
42:24
couple of big ass sharks. So you're going to have to grow
42:28
a little bit, get some weight up.
42:30
Let me say this though. You know it will.
42:32
I'll bring up Petco. You will hear Petco say Jack
42:35
Miller was his best teammate today.
42:37
Yeah, because. He could beat Jack Miller pretty
42:39
easily. Come on, man, it wasn't that.
42:43
Your best. Your best teammate that doesn't
42:46
compete against you, that's your best teammate.
42:48
Got it? Help they.
42:48
Help him, help him, you know, talking behind him because he
42:52
was rolling roadblock my. Man might as well have a sign
42:56
that says caution and have a bike that's 8 feet wide like
43:00
that's your best teammate. Well, you guys say at this
43:04
point. At this point, I think Jack was
43:06
OK with that. You know, I mean, I mean they
43:09
use them for every manufacturer he went to.
43:13
They, they used him the same way he went to KTM and he was
43:16
supposed to help Bender and and change things around and then he
43:20
was gone, you know, saying so. Yeah, so.
43:25
So I think you're not looking at it.
43:28
You know, we got things to look forward to now when we go to
43:31
Puerto Mile, we're going to see who's going to jump over a turn,
43:34
whatever 5 or something like that the most.
43:36
They're going to have stompy competitions.
43:38
Yeah, that's that's not what race is about.
43:40
But it's just going to bring something to look forward to.
43:43
And Jack Malone would be a good team that thank for Top Rock,
43:47
you know, because, you know, who else can he really learn from at
43:53
this stage? You know, I'm saying I don't
43:54
think a younger rider would. I mean, listen to him.
44:00
We're gonna let. Reese where the.
44:03
Controls are where the controls are.
44:05
What do you do in this term? Yeah, I got you.
44:07
That's it. All right, Reese.
44:09
Since since since you're on a teamwork for a team Reese and
44:13
just two riders and you know how it works on the inside, you
44:18
already just acknowledged that it's a good idea for Jack
44:20
Miller. When to the best of what you can
44:25
tell us are you are you guys looking for a rider that another
44:29
rider can beat? Let's just just on the team like
44:33
is that is that what we're saying here that like, you know,
44:35
my, it's the Easy Rider and you know, please tell Lewis why Jack
44:40
is is the perfect teammate for for oh, I know why let's.
44:44
Listen to Reese. But I know why.
44:49
Don't that. Don't that.
44:50
Lewis, bully you, man. Come on, he's not bullying me.
44:53
But just laughing. But I think Jack is OK.
44:57
I mean, Jack is a good rider. I mean, he's a hell of a he can
45:01
help develop a bike that's one. He can't help develop it and
45:06
understands he's coming from Ducati.
45:09
So he knows the inside and out of that V forward that's coming.
45:13
You know, he can help bring that V4 up into specs and to get it
45:17
to where the Ducati was. I mean, yes, he is a great, easy
45:22
person to beat, as Lewis would say.
45:25
And if I'm Jack Miller, I really wouldn't give a damn as long as
45:28
the check's clear at the end of the day.
45:30
Teaching in my bank. But, but no, I mean, I think
45:36
Jack and, and, and Top Rack will get along just fine.
45:40
I think he'll help Top Rack develop into a better rider.
45:45
I think he'll, you know, Jack will show Top Rack certain
45:50
things that other people won't show him because we all know
45:54
Jack just doesn't have a filter on him.
45:55
He has zero filters. 0 cares. He's going to tell like it is.
45:59
And so I, I think that's where it's going to help Top Rack
46:03
become that different animal on the bike than anybody else
46:08
would. OK.
46:10
Do you think? Top rack turn into.
46:12
Tackle though any influence. In in in getting them resigned,
46:16
do you think like they, you know, on the behind the scene,
46:19
they already knew this and say, hey, we want this guy to stay
46:22
versus Oliveira. I mean, if you look at it apples
46:26
to apples in. Performance, I mean really it's
46:29
you going to keep all of error or you going to keep Jack?
46:34
You you mean that you're? Going to keep the guy that the
46:37
the the weekend that Jack got signed to a new contract.
46:40
Beat Jack's ass in both races. Or Jack.
46:44
He's looking for a new. Job, man, Come on, it's a job
46:46
interview he's doing right now. You know how it works.
46:52
I'm really good at getting. Hit by other riders?
46:59
Unbreakable. Though Jackson unbreakable so
47:01
far. Right.
47:05
I mean, you got to look at this. Who's the next Yamaha guy on
47:09
that bike? Who's the next one besides
47:11
Quattro? Who was the next one, Jack?
47:15
I mean, compared to Rinz and Olive Error, yeah.
47:20
Rinz. Honestly, I think that that I
47:22
wouldn't be surprised if Yama buys him out of the rest of his
47:26
contract and find somebody else because at this point, Rinz is
47:29
just riding to try to get through his through his
47:32
contract. I mean, I would.
47:33
I would just. Buy him out and get him out that
47:35
seat. Like buy.
47:36
You got to go. Yeah, buy.
47:38
Him. Out, get a young guy, you know,
47:41
on the seat for, you know, a good price.
47:44
Get somebody out of Moto 2 that shows some potential.
47:47
I mean, again, you can find yourself, if you look at the
47:50
Moto 2 grid, man, it's pretty stacked, the top 6-7 guys.
47:53
It's a lot of talent right there.
47:55
I'd rather put one of those guys on the bike and see if they
47:58
could do what Agoura and Fernandez and Al Daguerre are
48:01
doing versus, you know, staying with Rens and watching him, you
48:06
know, sit on the crash truck or sit in the tire wall or not make
48:10
it out or, you know, qualifying 18 place.
48:12
I mean, right now you're just burning gas and tires.
48:16
Has anyone? Ever got bought out before?
48:18
Yeah, it's happened. Before Espinales, he didn't get
48:22
bought out, he got fired. Conduct detrimental to the team
48:31
was the exact clause that they I think I.
48:35
Think he's redeemed himself? I've seen that one.
48:38
But. If if more guys can.
48:40
Destroy more bikes than what Cotteraro did not or did attempt
48:44
to do and didn't succeed. I mean, they're still on other
48:47
bikes. I think we can let the others go
48:51
on that one. And you know, hey, like you say,
48:54
when it's a shit box, all you want to do is break it.
48:57
Yeah, man. I mean, I, I, I don't understand
48:59
why they picked Jack Miller over the Oliveira.
49:02
I mean, Oliveira has no consistency, but it's not always
49:05
his fault. I mean, obviously he's been hurt
49:07
a lot of, again, no fault of his own, but.
49:13
Do I keep Oliver? Milk.
49:15
Yeah, do I keep? Oliver.
49:16
Or do I keep Jack Miller, who's a more well known commodity,
49:20
who's more liked, who comes with a little bit more cachet, has
49:23
more experience? I keep Miller.
49:26
Yeah, yeah, I keep. Miller, you know, I keep Miller
49:29
because at least I know it's it's going to help the team in a
49:31
positive way. Even if he's not that
49:33
competitive, it's a positive impact overall on the team and
49:36
overall on Yamaha. Well, let let let let's say.
49:40
Go ahead. I was going to say, why was it?
49:43
Such a hard decision. They waited so long, like the
49:46
last minute like he was. Honestly, I think they.
49:48
Would try to get another rider and the other rider fell through
49:53
or they couldn't come to agreement with another rider.
49:55
So then they were like, let me let's just lock in Miller again,
49:58
because Miller started to put that that little bit of pressure
50:01
that he's looking elsewhere that this and that.
50:04
And I think they wanted to see if they could find somebody
50:06
else, but they couldn't. So they just, you know,
50:07
sometimes they're going to pick the easier path they were going
50:11
to bring Manzi. Over and until Ray decided to
50:14
retire, maybe. Well, let's talk about.
50:19
World Super Bike and Top Rock hat trick, right?
50:23
You know, it seems like Bulga is.
50:26
I mean, Bulga is riding in the best ride he's riding, but he
50:29
seems like he's in his head the way he's riding a little bit.
50:32
What are your thoughts on, you know what, what top rack is
50:36
doing in in in world super bike? And you know, it was pretty cool
50:39
races this weekend and let you know.
50:41
Well, I'll save it for you, Lewis.
50:43
You'll talk about Sam Lowe and Alex Lowe's because one of them
50:46
survived. Between.
50:51
What are your thoughts DJ? Yeah, I mean.
50:54
I top rack is just he's ready. You can see he's just he's just
51:00
a stand out right now. He's showing that he's unbeaten
51:03
and even from last year when he was off a couple of rounds, he
51:08
was up by a lot of points and still came back to win.
51:12
So he's just showing that he's ready and have the hat trick.
51:17
You know, I forget how many wins in a row he's had, but just to
51:22
just to wait the weekend again, one less than Mark Marquez.
51:27
It seems like 12. Or something like.
51:32
That I. Feel for, I feel for Bouliger.
51:36
I feel for Bouliger. I mean, I mean, last time when
51:39
we talked, we thought he had a shot of just keeping it close.
51:43
But I think Tom Price is going to have it locked unless, you
51:47
know, something's wrong with the bike or, you know, just a racing
51:51
incident. But just to pull a hat trick
51:53
again and, you know, we'll get also second all the way around,
51:58
which is, you know, the best he can do.
52:00
You know, at least he didn't get like 1/3 or anything like that.
52:03
It's like did the best he can do.
52:05
It's just we talked about it. He wants to be that champion.
52:07
I just don't think he's going to get it.
52:09
Yeah, it's just. Been amazing.
52:11
The best he could do it was. Ugly too.
52:12
They I mean, he made some mistakes and but he came, he
52:15
fought back to get that second. So if he could have had a ride
52:18
like Tap Rock, maybe it might have been closer.
52:24
TJ can you really ride? Like that?
52:26
OK, I. Know you can't not a.
52:31
It's a. Different.
52:33
It's a different. Style of riding, I love
52:35
watching. I, I mean, it's a different
52:36
style of riding and he, he's, he's, he's a lot smoother rider
52:41
and I, you know, I, I, you know, the things have to be right.
52:45
I think for him to go fast. He.
52:48
He. He's doing better than Pekka.
52:50
I I can go fast. On anybody.
52:55
He's doing better than Pekka. Jesus Christ, Yeah, yeah.
52:58
So your. Thoughts Reese on on, on the
53:00
races. And you know the outcomes.
53:04
I mean, at the end of the day. I mean, I watch it and kind of
53:07
like, all right, the same kind of players up front is is Buluga
53:09
is it's top rock. I mean, like once I see top rack
53:13
get like a, you know, a decent sized gap, 5 seconds, 4 seconds.
53:17
I'm like, I, I race it over. It's like, it's, it is what it
53:20
is. I mean, no one's riding like top
53:24
rack and everyone, you know, we sit here and we pray like
53:28
there's guys out here all the time.
53:29
They praise BMW for this and this and that.
53:31
I'm like, and I always look at them.
53:33
I'm like, can I ask you a question?
53:34
When the last time BMW been relevant?
53:36
Never. And I'm like, they were like,
53:39
oh, it's fast. No, top racks fast, Not BMW.
53:42
Top rack is fast. If you take top rack off, who
53:44
wins? No one.
53:45
Yeah, nobody. So where's the other?
53:47
BMW. They did a good question.
53:51
I mean, look, the other BMWs coming to Motor America.
53:53
Yeah, that's answered your question.
53:55
So it's it's top rack. I mean, we're we're watching a
54:01
guy in history that can went from stunt riding to racing to
54:06
can just do some incredible things on a bike.
54:09
And they're they're trying to compare him to Marquez, you
54:11
know, and I'm like, yeah, I I can see a little bit of it, but
54:14
I'm like, he's in his own own world.
54:16
I mean, got you good. Just need to step up.
54:20
Yeah, right, right. And and.
54:21
You know, before I move on to you, Louis Reese, do you think
54:25
that you know Top Rocks riding style will suit Moto GP?
54:36
Yes and no, because I know the chassis are a lot lighter.
54:39
They're a lot different. So he's going to have to get
54:41
used to that chassis to be able to maneuver like he wants to and
54:46
move it around like he wants to, you know, that chassis.
54:49
So like he's going to flick it in there and out he goes.
54:54
OK. All right, that's.
54:55
What's up, Louis, what are your thoughts on how the but the
54:59
races went? And you know, top rack and you
55:02
know, let's talk about the Lowe's brother.
55:04
Alex Lowe's proved you wrong this weekend.
55:08
I don't know. It's enough to get out of the
55:09
the pond, but barely proved. Me wrong.
55:17
You hate the brothers so bad. I don't hate them.
55:20
I, you know, it's just, it's, it's comical to me how you know,
55:25
they're great riders. Obviously they have a lot of
55:27
talent, but I mean, they've been in the sport for a very long
55:31
time. They've probably racked up the
55:33
largest repair bill of any two siblings in the history of
55:37
motorcycle racing, including the Marquez brothers, who also but
55:44
they but they win. But they keep getting.
55:46
Rides. Yeah, exactly.
55:47
They keep getting rides, you know?
55:50
I don't. You know, I know.
55:51
One gets a ride because he's married to the owner of the team
55:54
and the other one again, incriminating photos of somebody
55:57
I don't know, but they keep getting rides and good for them.
56:01
I'm glad they keep racing. You know, he got a he got a
56:04
double podium this weekend. His brother got finished one
56:07
race on the track, finished the other race in the in the crash
56:11
truck. So, you know, a Lowe's brothers,
56:14
always at least one Lowe's brothers, going to put it in the
56:16
bin each weekend and this weekend.
56:20
This. Weekend they didn't disappoint,
56:23
so even they are on the podium. What do you think about?
56:26
That Kawasaki motor and the and the new team, cuz I mean, it's
56:29
pretty impressive. It's impressive.
56:32
It's very impressive. I mean, it just goes to show how
56:35
Kawasaki themselves must not be giving a damn where their motor
56:40
on another frame is doing that good.
56:43
But their own bike is, is is is a shit box like that.
56:47
You know, it just shows that Kawasaki's just not invested in
56:50
putting anything in that team. Because if a guy, if somebody
56:53
can take the motor out of your bike, put it in a different
56:56
frame, in a different chassis, throw it up a couple of
56:58
different parts and everything else and be as good as being
57:00
motors, being, you know, on the bike with that motor.
57:04
And then Kawasaki can't even keep up with that bike.
57:07
Like what's going on, man. Like Kawasaki should kind of a
57:12
little bit be ashamed of themselves, man.
57:14
I mean, they can be proud of the motor, but they can't be proud
57:16
of themselves. You know, the motor is great.
57:18
It's just everything around the motor is not working.
57:21
So why don't you invest the money?
57:22
Why don't you put forth the effort?
57:24
You obviously have a great. Fight.
57:27
Yeah, as Garrett, that one. You know Garrett.
57:30
Garrett would love to have any parts, anything, you know,
57:33
develop me something, do the foot peg, give me a foot peg.
57:36
At this point, I'll, I'll go faster with a better foot peg,
57:40
you know. And then on the, on the Ducati
57:44
side, Buliga is, is a great rider.
57:47
He's a great rider. I think Ducati's biggest mistake
57:50
this year was not moving to the new bike.
57:54
I think staying. With the old bike and thinking
57:56
that they're going to get through the season with the old
57:58
bike, with the new bike already available and not bring it to
58:01
the market, it's not available. You are then you are in car the
58:06
R. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:08
So that's the one. They have to.
58:09
They have to do the R. Yeah, it's 1000.
58:11
CC the other one is 1100. Yeah, they should have.
58:14
They should. Have brought that bike to market
58:15
sooner, man, because I think he's getting out hustled right
58:19
now because BMW has the newest, latest and greatest version of
58:22
their bike and you know, he's still on the older bike that
58:26
really is not getting any development because it's not
58:28
going to be used next year. So it's like I'm kicking the can
58:31
down the road for a year. I can't really do that much with
58:34
it. I'm restricted to whatever the
58:35
restrictions that were already on the bike are on the bike.
58:39
And then BMW, they started the year with some struggles because
58:41
this new bike didn't work out very well and I guess they found
58:44
their way. They got a ton of horsepower,
58:47
they got a ton of agility, and the bike works great for a top
58:50
rack and whatever the bike doesn't have.
58:52
Top rack fills in that last 6-7 percent with his talent.
58:57
And you? Know, I don't think Bulaga is I
59:02
think top rack will probably win the championship with two rounds
59:04
left. You know, at this point, just
59:07
looking at the numbers and looking at the way that things
59:09
are kind of progressing, I think with two rounds left, he'll
59:11
probably walk away with the championship, you know, unless
59:14
something dramatic happens, like I said in the last show.
59:18
This is the top rack. Show this is the top rack
59:20
championship to lose. You know Buluka can do
59:22
everything he can, but you know he's still got to beat that guy
59:25
in front of him and top rack is just riding man like he broke.
59:29
I think he's the 1st super bike in Magna core history to do like
59:32
a sub 135 like that's fast man. If you think about all the
59:36
people that have been riding that track for all the years
59:39
they've been riding it, that's an accomplishment.
59:41
Anytime you break an all time lap record at a track where the
59:45
lap record I think is something like 6 years old or seven years
59:49
old and the one sub 135, nobody's ever done it.
59:53
So the dude is pushing like nobody's business.
59:56
So let's see what happens when it comes to GP, man.
59:59
You know, I hope he can adapt. It's a different bike, but I'm
1:00:02
sure, you know, again, he knows how to ride a bike.
1:00:04
He just needs to adapt to riding a new style of bike.
1:00:07
And we haven't seen a super bike guy come over to Moto GP in a
1:00:10
long time and make an impact. I mean, the last one was Ben
1:00:13
Spies. Richloe.
1:00:16
He got 1, you got some. Did Richloe ever win a?
1:00:18
Race. Yeah, he won a race.
1:00:20
In the rain. Had to be in the rain.
1:00:22
He got on a podium in the rain. But I think he won.
1:00:25
He won a race in the rain. I don't know.
1:00:27
I don't. Know if it was raining?
1:00:28
Or not, but he got one Friday. He he was.
1:00:30
He was the rain. Yeah, it was.
1:00:33
Friday, raining might have been. The last super bike.
1:00:35
Guy to win in the dry was Ben Speeds, so it'll be interesting
1:00:41
to see what he can do, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:00:44
We'll see. And you never know, Gonzalez
1:00:47
might make it over. Although he didn't race super
1:00:49
bike, he was super sport. Honda got some stuff shuffling
1:00:54
around. I think they thought, who do
1:00:57
they think I was going to say? I think they were hoping Zarko
1:01:00
was going to Honda super bike, but instead he stayed over some
1:01:04
like he got some cats Kantra coming over on one of the bikes
1:01:08
and Jake Dixon on another bike. So I mean, you know, chubby VAVH
1:01:15
Jack last name. You know, he he he he's out of
1:01:19
it, right. He he has no seat at the moment.
1:01:21
He has no seat. You know what your thoughts on
1:01:23
on on on what Honda is doing over there in world in world
1:01:25
super bike TJ. I mean, we get something up in.
1:01:30
One word just watching, I mean. It's it's just an interesting
1:01:34
shake up. It's an interesting.
1:01:37
Shake up. So I mean I don't know what the
1:01:40
best it would be for them, but I guess Chantre going towards
1:01:43
super bike that's better than being a Moto GP.
1:01:47
Well, yeah, I mean, who did? Well, they got rid of his seat.
1:01:51
I mean, you know, they you know, So he got no choice.
1:01:56
But like, I mean, I mean, he's a nice guy and all, but I think
1:02:00
they were pretty good. I mean, obviously Eco Luko Ono
1:02:03
left. So, but like they're going to
1:02:06
take a few years to, I mean, Jake Dixon, I mean, it's going
1:02:09
to take a few years, right? Few years.
1:02:14
A few, man. It's going to take some time,
1:02:18
yeah. Right.
1:02:19
It's it's it's it's so I mean, can we make sense out of why,
1:02:23
you know, Honda would, you know, pick?
1:02:24
I mean, again, I could see Jake Dixon.
1:02:28
But you. Know Contra, I think it's.
1:02:30
Because the Asian market and they probably wanted to keep him
1:02:35
in the Honda fold, you know, there's a big market that's
1:02:40
where he's from is a very, very big market for Honda as a
1:02:43
company and for the units that they sell there.
1:02:45
So it's important to have him representation.
1:02:48
So I think that's why and they're giving him an
1:02:50
opportunity. I mean, the guy knows how to
1:02:52
ride. It's not like they just giving
1:02:53
him an opportunity because where he's from or anything like that.
1:02:57
And I think he might do better in World Super bike just
1:03:00
because, you know, looking back at the way he rode in Moto 2 and
1:03:03
the bikes in Moto 2, even though they're different, I mean,
1:03:06
they're, I would compare Moto 2 closer to a World Super sport
1:03:10
and a World Super bike than a Moto GP bike.
1:03:13
You know, I think there's a big leap from a Moto GP bike back to
1:03:16
a World Super bike. So I think he'll be in a little
1:03:19
bit better position than what he was at now.
1:03:21
Gives him an opportunity to help continue to work forward.
1:03:23
Maybe he's a good development rider.
1:03:25
Maybe there's something that Honda saw from him from his time
1:03:28
on the satellite team where they were like, hey, this guy has a
1:03:32
great opportunity here. He's a good development rider.
1:03:35
He knows how to find issues with the bike.
1:03:38
And I know Honda is working on making a new package and, you
1:03:41
know, developing some new stuff. So this is again an opportunity
1:03:44
for them. The Jake Dixon signing, you know
1:03:49
me, man, I'm not a huge Jake Dixon fan.
1:03:52
You know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not leading the Jake Dixon fan
1:03:55
club. I can see why they signed him.
1:03:59
I mean, he's a little bit of a more mature rider.
1:04:02
He's going to come with a little bit more experience and so
1:04:04
forth. I think he's going to come with
1:04:06
a little bit more fire in his belly because he didn't get that
1:04:08
opportunity in Moto GP, but he's been a front runner in Moto 2
1:04:11
for a long time. So now he's going to come over
1:04:14
to the big pond and and if he's does similar to what Bulaga did
1:04:19
coming from Moto 2, coming from where he was at, I think he
1:04:23
could do great. Again, the limitation there is
1:04:25
more than anything is, is the bike.
1:04:27
You know, Honda just hasn't had a strong package in a long, long
1:04:30
time. And no matter how many Rs they
1:04:32
keep adding to that name, until they come up with an actually
1:04:35
good bike, you got all the Rs you want.
1:04:38
You're not going to go further forward.
1:04:43
You might have a point. Yeah.
1:04:47
I think we we're we're coming up on a on a on a time.
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I mean, you know, Reese, let's let's talk about, you know,
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motor America coda before we get out of here real quick.
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You guys ready? I mean, I used to look like you
1:04:59
might be ready for bed, but you know, Hey, man.
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Long days, man, you know at this point.
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Is it's, you know, everything's already planned and prepared.
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It's, it's just executing the plan, right?
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That's it. It's.
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Execute and and. Go with it, I mean.
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We're going out here to compete and when is see if we can steal
1:05:21
one from here. That's what's up.
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That's. What's up?
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Any questions, TJ Lewis, you want to add before we get out of
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here on on you know what the plan is.
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I can't. Say what the plan is for Reese,
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because I'm not there. But you know, I hope.
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I hope the plan is for all riders and all classes to have a
1:05:46
great weekend to get through the weekend safely.
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Make sure everybody leaves with the same number of parts that
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they showed up with, and don't leave with less or more parts.
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Everybody be safe. Code is a great track to ride.
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I mean, it's a beautiful layout. It's fast, it's got a little bit
1:06:03
of everything. I mean, it's definitely one of
1:06:05
the most beautiful tracks that we have here in the US.
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I hope all the riders and all the teams enjoy the hell out of
1:06:10
it. We're down to the last two
1:06:12
rounds. You know, we'll see who you
1:06:15
know. There's possibility this weekend
1:06:16
that, you know, somebody might clinch a championship, not maybe
1:06:20
in Super Bike, but in Super Sport and other classes.
1:06:23
There's a lot of opportunities to clinch.
1:06:25
It'll just takes a little bit of the right numbers.
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So we'll see, man. We'll see how the weekend goes,
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but I hope everybody gets through the weekend safe.
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That's that's what was my my first thought for every weekend
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is, you know, I want to see all the guys and girls coming out of
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the track healthy and ready for the next round and keep riding
1:06:42
and just have a good time, enjoy themselves.
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Oh, listen to this. Talk man, I like it.
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I'm getting all. Sentimental.
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Bro, Right, right. What the world?
1:06:52
You guys think I'm a? Dick all the time.
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I've never heard this guy. Get sentimental.
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Nah, I. I do, man.
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You know, we're in a very, very fun, but, you know, hazardous
1:07:08
sport. And that's why I, you know, as
1:07:10
much as I might dislike a rider, I'll never root for a rider to
1:07:13
get hurt or anything like that. That's not true fan.
1:07:16
And that to me, that's not a fan.
1:07:18
That's a fanatic. You know, only fanatics look for
1:07:21
somebody to get hurt. I like people to get through the
1:07:23
weekend. If you get injured, you know,
1:07:25
that's part of the game. But you know, I still want you
1:07:27
to go home to your family. I I agree I'm.
1:07:30
I'm torn, you know, I have two Ducatis and two Yamahas.
1:07:33
So, you know, I think, I think however it pans out 2420. 4
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That's it. Tuning for real quick, real
1:07:42
quick, man, get rid of that duck.
1:07:48
TJ man, I I know you're going to be locked into Motor America and
1:07:52
you're a Yamaha guy for sure, but you know, you're Josh
1:07:56
Herron's boy. So you know, what's what's the
1:07:59
dealy? I mean.
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I mean, I've never heard any news that I don't know if he's
1:08:06
going to be participating, but I'm sure he will be.
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But I'm just happy to see, you know, another big race, you
1:08:14
know, at Coda. So I like to see, you know, the
1:08:18
the roller coaster layout that it has there and then just to
1:08:20
see more of America there. It's just going to be excited to
1:08:23
see it's coming down to the crunch time with with the
1:08:27
riders. So you know, I want to see Bobby
1:08:31
fall win. Obviously Josh Harris, my boy,
1:08:33
but he's on he's on a tear. And you know, I ride the Yamaha
1:08:37
2 on the track. So I I, you know, like my Yamaha
1:08:41
guys, but. Yeah, I think it's going to be.
1:08:46
A fun weekend, like Lewis said. I just want everyone to be be
1:08:49
safe, you know, like don't want anything crazy, the bikes on
1:08:51
fire and stuff like that, you know.
1:08:54
So I just want everyone to have fun and good battles also.
1:08:59
So I want to see down that, you know.
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I just like watching. That that straight away, you
1:09:08
know, like that back straight. So just to see what what the
1:09:11
bikes really have, you know what, like what the Yamaha guy
1:09:15
or what the Ducati have and see what their legs got out there.
1:09:19
So I'm excited to see what that's about.
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Nice, nice. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it,
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man. Well, I appreciate everyone
1:09:26
coming on. It's the Be Forever Cool
1:09:29
podcast. My name is Rex 45.
1:09:31
We got TJ from 2 Wheels and Coffee, Reese from Attack
1:09:34
Yamaha, the real Louis Ortega, the numbers guy.
1:09:38
Peace, peace, peace, peace.